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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876343062712209408 | Jun 18 03:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AIMS Desktop 2017.1 is available! | Jun 18 03:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AIMS Desktop 2017.1 is available! | Tux Machines | Jun 18 03:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876344041935441920 | Jun 18 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Open Source' #3DPrinter and Open Source Digital Cinema | Jun 18 03:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 'Open Source' 3D Printer and Open Source Digital Cinema | Tux Machines | Jun 18 03:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical and #Ubuntu News https://t.co/kaXAcAFuIv | Jun 18 03:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical and Ubuntu News | Tux Machines | Jun 18 03:44 | |
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| schestowitz | https://micahflee.com/2013/01/why-im-leaving-ubuntu-for-debian/ | Jun 18 03:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-micahflee.com | Why I’m Leaving Ubuntu for Debian | Micah Lee's Blog | Jun 18 03:48 | |
| schestowitz | old | Jun 18 03:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #debian #gnu #linux #ubuntu | Jun 18 04:00 |
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| schestowitz | msb in reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6f3xby/microsofts_war_against_linux/ | Jun 18 04:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft's war against Linux : linux | Jun 18 04:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6g7uyl/intel_amt_vulnerable_for_data_stealing_linux_may/ | Jun 18 04:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Intel AMT vulnerable for data stealing. Linux may be targeted as well. (Another) good time for AMD open sourcing its PSP? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r0mva ] | Jun 18 04:01 | |
| schestowitz | they deleted DaemonFC's https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6exb6e/lenovo_locking_linux_out_of_at_least_a_couple_of/ | Jun 18 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo locking Linux out of at least a couple of laptops again. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qy9x8 ] | Jun 18 04:08 | |
| oiaohm | https://techbeacon.com/software-security-liability-coming-are-your-engineers-ready this is a interesting read. | Jun 18 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Security liability is coming for software: Is your engineering team ready? | TechBeacon | Jun 18 04:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @Peston Let's see the media try to...' | Jun 18 04:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876355608672428032 | Jun 18 04:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: Open Source Summit North America 2017, #QtCon | Jun 18 04:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Brasil 2017, #Randa Meetings 2017, and #GUADEC 2017 | Jun 18 04:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: Open Source Summit North America 2017, QtCon Brasil 2017, Randa Meetings 2017, and GUADEC 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 18 04:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #kde #gnu #linux | Jun 18 06:15 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @Peston People want Jeremy. Time to appoint...' | Jun 18 06:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @Peston People want Jeremy. Time...' | Jun 18 06:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump That's utter nonsense. How many work part...' | Jun 18 06:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump That's utter nonsense. How many...' | Jun 18 06:51 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6c9ko5/i_found_a_penguin_in_microsoft_customer_support/ | Jun 18 07:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | I found a penguin in Microsoft Customer support! : linux | Jun 18 07:40 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/king-henrys-foot.jpg | Jun 18 08:46 |
| schestowitz | nice | Jun 18 08:47 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/kxDH3v4.jpg | Jun 18 08:48 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I keep wondering: how popular are imperial units in Britain? | Jun 18 08:49 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6fpm8y/linus_his_take_on_microsoft_earlier_days_what_is/ | Jun 18 08:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linus & his take on Microsoft. Earlier days. What is he saying here?? : linux | Jun 18 08:50 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: not like in the US | Jun 18 08:50 |
| schestowitz | with the EU we moved to metric for almost everything | Jun 18 08:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: What about the common folk? | Jun 18 08:51 |
| MinceR | https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/azq7AqN_700b.jpg (sauce: https://9gag.com/gag/azq7AqN ) | Jun 18 08:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's what she said? | Jun 18 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Slavic architecture - 9GAG | Jun 18 08:51 | |
| XRevan86 | > with the EU | Jun 18 08:51 |
| XRevan86 | Recent thing then? | Jun 18 08:51 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 18 08:51 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: about 17 years ago | Jun 18 08:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This reminded me of some bad dreams I am sometimes having. | Jun 18 08:52 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 18 08:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: So I guess regular people still use imperial units inertedly. | Jun 18 08:53 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was an optical illusion at first | Jun 18 08:53 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: older people | Jun 18 08:53 |
| schestowitz | stones and pounds for bodyweight | Jun 18 08:54 |
| XRevan86 | > That's what you do if you're connecting two buildings with different floor levels. It's probably that | Jun 18 08:56 |
| XRevan86 | Interesting, didn't know that. | Jun 18 08:56 |
| MinceR | it could be done better | Jun 18 08:56 |
| MinceR | you could just bring the steps to the right below that door's floor level up to that floor level | Jun 18 08:57 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: actually i think i've encountered something like this in a dream, but that wasn't a nightmare | Jun 18 08:57 |
| XRevan86 | > amaterasuaboy: As a child I always had nightmares about stairs like this | Jun 18 08:58 |
| XRevan86 | Yeah, not a nightmare for me too, just some confusing stuff. | Jun 18 08:58 |
| XRevan86 | > you could just bring the steps to the right below that door's floor level up to that floor level | Jun 18 09:00 |
| XRevan86 | I guess the door is the new thing here. | Jun 18 09:00 |
| MinceR | the stairs don't make sense though | Jun 18 09:00 |
| XRevan86 | and they changed the left stairs but kept the right ones for some reason | Jun 18 09:01 |
| MinceR | it's pointless to walk down just so you can walk back up | Jun 18 09:01 |
| MinceR | in fact, there isn't even enough room for the landing in the deep corner | Jun 18 09:01 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, this could be avoided. | Jun 18 09:03 |
| XRevan86 | > Well, it has its ups and downs | Jun 18 09:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe that dream thing shows we're slightly claustrophobic :) | Jun 18 09:07 |
| XRevan86 | or maybe it's just confusing for a dream state to have stairs go in different directions | Jun 18 09:08 |
| XRevan86 | horizontally | Jun 18 09:09 |
| XRevan86 | so when one remembers about that while dreaming, it gets weirded out | Jun 18 09:10 |
| MinceR | i found it weird while dreaming | Jun 18 09:11 |
| MinceR | but i proceeded :> | Jun 18 09:12 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I guess the only hope for US to change the unit system is for it to join EU :) | Jun 18 09:12 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 09:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, that will happen | Jun 18 09:12 |
| oiaohm | Some of the biggest mess in USA history with Nasa and mil has been mixing up the to unit systems. | Jun 18 09:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Mine usually involve climbing through holes between staircases of different levels | Jun 18 09:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 09:13 |
| oiaohm | http://edition.cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/30/mars.metric.02/ | Jun 18 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | CNN - Metric mishap caused loss of NASA orbiter - September 30, 1999 [ http://ur1.ca/r0oeq ] | Jun 18 09:14 | |
| oiaohm | They are kind of classical stuff ups. | Jun 18 09:14 |
| oiaohm | One contractor uses metric one uses imperial and result is failure. | Jun 18 09:14 |
| *XRevan86 waits for a -up when somebody confuses a day with a month :) | Jun 18 09:14 | |
| XRevan86 | 05/01/17 | Jun 18 09:14 |
| XRevan86 | May first 2017? January fifth 2017? | Jun 18 09:15 |
| oiaohm | Yep its like war has to end on like the 1/1 2/2 3/3 .... so that everyone stops fighting at the same time. | Jun 18 09:15 |
| XRevan86 | Or maybe January seventeenth 2005 | Jun 18 09:15 |
| XRevan86 | A Japanese would write it like that :) | Jun 18 09:16 |
| oiaohm | I though reversed was 4 digit year. | Jun 18 09:16 |
| XRevan86 | Though yes, rather 2005/01/17 | Jun 18 09:16 |
| XRevan86 | maybe a rogue Japanese :) | Jun 18 09:16 |
| oiaohm | O my http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/leforinforref/64790/HTML/default/viewer.htm#n18uyqeusnl0fxn1d9pvhm49j4za.htm | Jun 18 09:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.sas.com | SAS(R) 9.4 Formats and Informats: Reference [ http://ur1.ca/r0ofm ] | Jun 18 09:18 | |
| oiaohm | Yes yymmdd is valid. | Jun 18 09:18 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: :D | Jun 18 09:18 |
| XRevan86 | Everybody should just use 2017-01-05, I'm positive about that. | Jun 18 09:22 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country there is a nightmare on that go down to Kazakhstan | Jun 18 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Date format by country - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qzhvs ] | Jun 18 09:23 | |
| XRevan86 | Tested on locals who never saw it before in their lives: they never had any confusion at all. | Jun 18 09:23 |
| oiaohm | to be insane Kazakhstan support yyyy dd mm | Jun 18 09:23 |
| oiaohm | Nothing like the human race making it hard to know what day a person is referencing. | Jun 18 09:23 |
| XRevan86 | > (yyyy.dd.mm) in Kazakh | Jun 18 09:23 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Well, dots is not good here I agree. | Jun 18 09:24 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: But here's a secret about Kazakhstan: Kazakh is a minority language there. | Jun 18 09:24 |
| oiaohm | That would be sad going to war to unify global date systems. | Jun 18 09:25 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/ATmdjYk.png | Jun 18 09:25 |
| oiaohm | We have had wars over all kinds of stupidity so I would not put that past the human race. | Jun 18 09:25 |
| XRevan86 | Kazakh is going to get even more obscure soon too. | Jun 18 09:25 |
| XRevan86 | The eternal president of Kazakhstan decided they should change the alphabet of the language. | Jun 18 09:26 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 09:26 |
| MinceR | another eternal president? | Jun 18 09:26 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yep | Jun 18 09:26 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nursultan_Nazarbayev | Jun 18 09:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Nursultan Nazarbayev - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0ohs ] | Jun 18 09:27 | |
| MinceR | ah, not official yet | Jun 18 09:27 |
| XRevan86 | > He has been the country's leader since 1989, when he was named First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Kazakh SSR, and was elected the nation's first president following its independence from the Soviet Union in December 1991. He holds the title 'Leader of the Nation'. In April 2015, Nazarbayev was re-elected with almost 98% of the vote. | Jun 18 09:27 |
| MinceR | (and not dead yet, so north korea is the only necrocracy for now) | Jun 18 09:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, no, it's not his real status :) | Jun 18 09:27 |
| XRevan86 | not de-jure, I mean | Jun 18 09:28 |
| XRevan86 | He's like Lukashenko | Jun 18 09:28 |
| XRevan86 | only 5 years cooler | Jun 18 09:28 |
| MinceR | >Nazarbayev espoused anti-religious views during the Soviet era;[60] he has now made an effort to highlight his Muslim heritage by performing the Hajj pilgrimage,[60] and supporting mosque renovations.[61] | Jun 18 09:29 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 09:29 |
| MinceR | just like hungarians | Jun 18 09:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Just like Russians. | Jun 18 09:29 |
| MinceR | doesn't matter whether "communist"/"socialist" symbolism or religious fundamentalist symbolism, they're always all for extreme authoritarianism | Jun 18 09:30 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's just careerism | Jun 18 09:30 |
| XRevan86 | they go for what's hip at a time | Jun 18 09:30 |
| MinceR | they don't believe in anything except oppression and exploitation | Jun 18 09:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's besides symbolism though, isn't it? | Jun 18 09:31 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 18 09:32 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, Kazakhstan is pretty nice. | Jun 18 09:33 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIV-QdPEx-Q | Jun 18 09:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kazakhstan You Very Nice Place - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r0oje ] | Jun 18 09:34 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I guess it's Borat | Jun 18 09:34 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 18 09:34 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/zqCIzzTAmxU :D | Jun 18 09:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Borat anthem plays at medal ceremony - YouTube | Jun 18 09:36 | |
| XRevan86 | > unintentional | Jun 18 09:37 |
| XRevan86 | Yeah, they were totally fooled by Borat's anthem with English lyrics | Jun 18 09:38 |
| schestowitz | haha | Jun 18 09:39 |
| schestowitz | classic | Jun 18 09:39 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/91uXQmO.gifv | Jun 18 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Classic | Jun 18 09:50 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What? o_0 | Jun 18 09:51 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/6E50Mju.jpg | Jun 18 09:51 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This warrants a remake of Jesus Christ Superstar | Jun 18 09:51 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6hci0f/linux_code_in_prey/ | Jun 18 09:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux code in Prey? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r0onk ] | Jun 18 09:53 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that was blunt.. | Jun 18 09:55 |
| oiaohm | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Flatpak-Steam-Flathub this is interesting | Jun 18 09:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Is Now Available In Flatpak Form - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r0onz ] | Jun 18 09:56 | |
| schestowitz | good | Jun 18 09:57 |
| MinceR | >steam >flatpak | Jun 18 10:00 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/dFZmJ6a.jpg | Jun 18 10:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: 404 | Jun 18 10:02 |
| MinceR | :( | Jun 18 10:02 |
| MinceR | i guess someone posted something on imgur that vlad didn't like | Jun 18 10:02 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Which Vlad? | Jun 18 10:03 |
| MinceR | the khuilo | Jun 18 10:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He has control over imgur? | Jun 18 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876440078016532480 | Jun 18 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/0DTBcapG8C | Jun 18 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #steamso #steam #gnu #linux #games | Jun 18 10:03 |
| MinceR | he has control over the Great Firewall of Russia | Jun 18 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming #gamepack | Jun 18 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jun 18 10:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 18 10:03 | |
| schestowitz | weird | Jun 18 10:04 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: the URL works here | Jun 18 10:04 |
| schestowitz | maybe Vlad doesn't like MinceR's gay-ish posts | Jun 18 10:04 |
| XRevan86 | It's HTTPS so I doubt Vlad MitM'd it %) | Jun 18 10:04 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 10:04 |
| schestowitz | what's the point of it? | Jun 18 10:04 |
| XRevan86 | okay, it works in Chromium | Jun 18 10:05 |
| MinceR | maybe vlad has spies at the generally accepted root CAs | Jun 18 10:05 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe imgur has a policy of not showing such content to Firefox users %) | Jun 18 10:06 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 10:06 |
| XRevan86 | https://forum.f-droid.org/t/600 :( | Jun 18 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.f-droid.org | So long, farewell and goodbye - F-Droid Forum | Jun 18 10:11 | |
| XRevan86 | Hmm, techrightsbot… http://localhost/ | Jun 18 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights | People's rights in the digital age | Plutocracy threatened by freedom, democracy, privacy & civil rights | Jun 18 10:12 | |
| XRevan86 | That's the thing with those title parsers. | Jun 18 10:12 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/0DTBcapG8C #steamso #steam #gnu #linux #games...' | Jun 18 10:18 | |
| MinceR | lying to get people to adopt your shit: "MBR disks do not support more than four partitions on each disk." https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc725797%28v=ws.11%29.aspx | Jun 18 10:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-technet.microsoft.com | Change a GUID Partition Table Disk into a Master Boot Record Disk [ http://ur1.ca/r0ow3 ] | Jun 18 10:33 | |
| MinceR | justmicrosoftthings | Jun 18 10:33 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited '#antiX 16.2 Linux OS Is Based on #Debian...' | Jun 18 10:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876449308685545473 | Jun 18 10:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Hurd 2017 Released https://t.co/PREAtAoRN8 | Jun 18 10:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #hurd #freesw #debian | Jun 18 10:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 18 10:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Hurd 2017 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 18 10:43 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that statement is correct MBR it self only has slots for 4 partitions. | Jun 18 10:49 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i wonder what extended partitions are for | Jun 18 10:52 |
| MinceR | which they supported in their dos for ages | Jun 18 10:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_boot_record extended partitions are EBR | Jun 18 10:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Extended boot record - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0p0r ] | Jun 18 10:54 | |
| MinceR | and they are referred by the MBR | Jun 18 10:54 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lvm or EBR or some other break up system could be reference by the MBR to get extra partitions. | Jun 18 10:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so like it or not EBR is not really required for on a drive using MBR. | Jun 18 10:57 |
| oiaohm | GUID Partition Table (GPT) in the primary table support up to 128 entries for partitions. | Jun 18 10:57 |
| oiaohm | And you can if you wish use LVM or EBR inside those. | Jun 18 10:57 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: mind you the bigger issue with MBR is the 2TB limit. | Jun 18 11:01 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I really do wonder what size drive and what setup would require to use all 128 partitions of GPT. | Jun 18 11:03 |
| MinceR | i really don't care | Jun 18 11:04 |
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| MinceR | https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753506%28v=ws.11%29.aspx | Jun 18 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-technet.microsoft.com | Create partition logical [ http://ur1.ca/r0p3w ] | Jun 18 11:09 | |
| MinceR | and then the nonexistent "logical" "partition" suddenly existed again | Jun 18 11:09 |
| MinceR | also, it's nice to see that there still are plenty of people who tirelessly defend the interests of industry-destroying criminal corporations without getting any rewards for it | Jun 18 11:17 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Even the nice lady who said you...' | Jun 18 11:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Castlewell https://twitter.com/Castlewell/status/876459753987244032 | Jun 18 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest Let's Get Gamey! https://t.co/6oxscHwYsB | Jun 18 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @GoGamersWorld @warrenball757 | Jun 18 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #games #videogames | Jun 18 11:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Let’s Get Gamey | Jun 18 11:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 18 11:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn https://t.co/iCVbGDv8dg' | Jun 18 11:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/iCVbGDv8dg | Jun 18 11:21 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really items like set-top boxes that in specs that say support only MBR drivers you will find EBR other extends don't work. | Jun 18 11:25 |
| MinceR | are any of my PCs set-top boxes? | Jun 18 11:26 |
| MinceR | does the article i cited mention set-top boxes anywhere? | Jun 18 11:26 |
| MinceR | really, you m$ shills come up with the stupidest excuses | Jun 18 11:26 |
| oiaohm | The article does not say it for PC either. | Jun 18 11:26 |
| oiaohm | This is how Microsoft gets away with it. | Jun 18 11:26 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: so it not a wrong statement it a deceptive one. | Jun 18 11:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: MBR drive does not mean a driver with MBR and EBR either. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363785(VS.85).aspx yes Microsoft and their defines basic disc is MBR and EBR and Dynamic disks is using Microsofts equal to LVM. | Jun 18 11:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-msdn.microsoft.com | Basic and Dynamic Disks (Windows) [ http://ur1.ca/r0p8j ] | Jun 18 11:33 | |
| MinceR | except when it does | Jun 18 11:34 |
| MinceR | but yeah, calling the msdos partitioning scheme "MBR" was a clever move | Jun 18 11:34 |
| MinceR | lets them do doublethink and doubletalk about it | Jun 18 11:34 |
| MinceR | and people like you fall for it too | Jun 18 11:34 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record except you have the history wrong. | Jun 18 11:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Master boot record - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0p8v ] | Jun 18 11:36 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: IBM made MBR not Microsoft. So its IBM partition scheme that Microsoft creatively renamed. | Jun 18 11:36 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: IBM define of MBR does not have extended partitions. | Jun 18 11:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes Microsoft goes back into history when it suite them. | Jun 18 11:38 |
| MinceR | so m$-dos supporting them must have been a bug | Jun 18 11:38 |
| schestowitz | same for smb | Jun 18 11:38 |
| MinceR | yes, m$ lies when it suits them | Jun 18 11:38 |
| schestowitz | IIRC an IBM thing | Jun 18 11:38 |
| MinceR | (that is, all the time) | Jun 18 11:38 |
| schestowitz | bastardised by MS | Jun 18 11:38 |
| MinceR | and then rebranded | Jun 18 11:38 |
| schestowitz | yes | Jun 18 11:38 |
| schestowitz | well known to some | Jun 18 11:39 |
| schestowitz | to others it's "Windows network" | Jun 18 11:39 |
| MinceR | "Common Internet File System" -- from the inventors of the Internet! :> | Jun 18 11:39 |
| schestowitz | Or something along those lines | Jun 18 11:39 |
| schestowitz | but they copied it | Jun 18 11:39 |
| schestowitz | then "extended" it | Jun 18 11:39 |
| schestowitz | then denies Samba documentation | Jun 18 11:39 |
| schestowitz | and threatened them | Jun 18 11:39 |
| MinceR | (of course if you really expose it on the Internet, you deserve having your systems broken into) | Jun 18 11:39 |
| schestowitz | with patent licence and all | Jun 18 11:39 |
| schestowitz | but it's old news, let's now dwell on it | Jun 18 11:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: msdos partitioning scheme contains MBR and EBR. That is where you were reading wrong. | Jun 18 11:39 |
| schestowitz | now there's wambacry | Jun 18 11:39 |
| schestowitz | sambacry | Jun 18 11:40 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i wasn't reading wrong | Jun 18 11:40 |
| MinceR | https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aWmwoo3_700b.jpg | Jun 18 11:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the fun part is if Microsoft supported NEC version of MBR in the MBR there would be 8 partitions instead of 4. | Jun 18 11:43 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's extremely fun | Jun 18 11:43 |
| MinceR | also extremely relevant | Jun 18 11:43 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: good one | Jun 18 11:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: please note that 8 partition version of MBR was in custom version of MS-Dos Microsoft made for NEC. So Microsoft has supported the most limited version of MBR they could get away with. | Jun 18 11:48 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/9QA7K6g.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/9QA7K6g ) | Jun 18 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | The correct way to drive a screw. | Jun 18 11:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The correct way to drive a screw. - GIF on Imgur | Jun 18 11:50 | |
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| XRevan86 | > MBR disks do not support more than four partitions on each disc | Jun 18 11:55 |
| XRevan86 | So? | Jun 18 11:55 |
| XRevan86 | They kinda do with extended partitions but this has limitations. | Jun 18 11:55 |
| MinceR | yes they do | Jun 18 11:56 |
| MinceR | but if users knew that, it would be more difficult to sell them on uefi bullshit | Jun 18 11:56 |
| MinceR | so we get m$ revisionism | Jun 18 11:57 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Windows does extended partitions like crazy. | Jun 18 11:57 |
| MinceR | it does everything like crazy :> | Jun 18 11:57 |
| XRevan86 | That MBR limitation is important when converting from GPT: extended partitions require a bit more space than the user probably gave to partitions in GPT | Jun 18 11:58 |
| XRevan86 | so when converting from GPT to MBR, more than 4 partitions creates an actual problem | Jun 18 11:58 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: GPT can live without UEFI, just not on Windows %) | Jun 18 11:59 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 18 11:59 |
| XRevan86 | That is, for the drive with Windows, for others nobody cares. | Jun 18 12:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @MrBrendanCox #MoreInCommon https://t.co/hmew3DvgjI | Jun 18 12:04 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/VNEgllY.jpg | Jun 18 12:22 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/gbe6UJE.jpg | Jun 18 12:36 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/uLLEhKB.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/uLLEhKB ) | Jun 18 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Brushing time! | Jun 18 12:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brushing time! - GIF on Imgur | Jun 18 12:43 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/Htid6b8.jpg | Jun 18 13:10 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/FvQon0J.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/UuGsy ) | Jun 18 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jun 18 13:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Seriously - Album on Imgur | Jun 18 13:27 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: For a moment thought it's Tsoy, but nope %) | Jun 18 13:30 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 13:31 |
| MinceR | who's Tsoy? | Jun 18 13:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://youtu.be/ACAvBBMb6BM | Jun 18 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Кино - Группа крови - YouTube | Jun 18 13:35 | |
| MinceR | that doesn't really clear it up | Jun 18 13:38 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Tsoi | Jun 18 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Viktor Tsoi - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0pq2 ] | Jun 18 13:38 | |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 18 13:38 |
| XRevan86 | He's an ironic figure, so seeing his portrait is something I'm expecting :) | Jun 18 13:39 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/Xssnr | Jun 18 13:57 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/yC2fHES.jpg?1 (gallery: http://imgur.com/yC2fHES ) | Jun 18 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Elon Musk as Dr. Evil - Imgur | Jun 18 14:22 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: I just asked a friend from Kazakhstan about what he thinks about the alphabet initiative. He didn't know, thinks it's completely nuts. | Jun 18 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | He used a stronger language though. | Jun 18 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | Kazakhstan is not exactly obscenely wealthy to throw lots of money on alphabet micromanagement. | Jun 18 14:51 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 18 15:08 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: hi | Jun 18 15:08 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 15:09 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: but the dictator's personal vanity projects are much more important than the mere survival of his slaves, aren't they? | Jun 18 15:10 |
| sebsebseb | how do I get it to show file sytem properly from ubuntu phone | Jun 18 15:10 |
| sebsebseb | so can get into .local | Jun 18 15:10 |
| sebsebseb | hmm | Jun 18 15:10 |
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| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: UBports? :) | Jun 18 15:25 |
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| gde33 | https://steemit.com/ai/@gaby-de-wilde/an-objective-comparison-between-humans-ruling-the-world-vs-processes-ruling-the-world | Jun 18 15:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-steemit.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/r0q4a ] | Jun 18 15:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Debian 9 is released.... | Jun 18 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | I don't use Debian, mainly because of its glacial release pace and the fact that it prioritizes architectures that almost nobody is using. | Jun 18 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | So it slows down the release process for all of them when a bug that only happens on some obscure hardware surfaces. | Jun 18 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | If they pared it down a bit, they could probably release a new Stable every year. | Jun 18 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | At some point over 2 years, it's obvious that Linux 4.9 will no longer suffice if you're trying to get Stable installed on a new computer. | Jun 18 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | The backport kernels should be thrown in on updated installation media to help people with newer hardware who can't get the machine to boot on an older kernel. | Jun 18 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | That's the real sticking point for me. I guess Linux 4.9 is good enough to install and make most of my hardware work, but Skylake wasn't very reliable until around 4.10, and Intel is still squashing bugs and enabling new features for power saving and stuff. | Jun 18 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously Debian isn't going to be much fun if I install it and have to live with a laptop that gets 15% less battery runtime. | Jun 18 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | I actually got new complaints on boot with Linux 4.11 though. | Jun 18 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | It nags that it can't initialize the TPM. :P | Jun 18 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | I think I have a BIOS setting to disable the TPM though. I may just go ahead and turn it off to disable the warning. | Jun 18 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | I think what actually happened though is that 4.11 has a driver for the TPM but not the firmware, so it's aware that a TPM is present but that it can't bring it up. | Jun 18 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | Older kernels didn't know it was there, so didn't complain. | Jun 18 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how a TPM would benefit me though, so I don't much care. | Jun 18 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | I see that Debian doesn't support Secure Boot. I'm sort of split on what to think of it. It *could* be a useful security mechanism but the user should also be allowed to customize it or turn it off. My laptop just has on/off, and I keep it on because it's not hurting anything. | Jun 18 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | I don't plan to use out-of-tree modules or a custom kernel. | Jun 18 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | It could theoretically frustrate malware. | Jun 18 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | Future kernels will have "kernel lockdown" when in Secure Boot mode, which will stop things in userspace from directly accessing certain resources, like the system firmware services. | Jun 18 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Security, Microsoft style! | Jun 18 16:08 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Where your operating system can accidentally start a malicious program by attempting to scan it for malicious programs! | Jun 18 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Tavis Ormandy found at least two separate bugs in Windows Defender where this can happen. | Jun 18 16:09 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: That's actually not that unusual for "antiviruses" | Jun 18 16:09 |
| XRevan86 | Of course, Windows Defender is special because one cannot turn it off on Windows 10 :) | Jun 18 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, Defender has a Virtual Machine where it simulates what would happen if the program ran, and it's supposed to be sandboxed to protect the rest of the system, but Ormandy found some ways to escape the sandbox and use Windows Defender to automatically start your malware for you. | Jun 18 16:11 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Wait, what? | Jun 18 16:11 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: That's a very special level of stupid! | Jun 18 16:12 |
| XRevan86 | Everybody knows sandboxing is never perfect | Jun 18 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently not Microsoft... | Jun 18 16:13 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I presume it runs it as soon as finds the binary, right? | Jun 18 16:13 |
| XRevan86 | from the creators of autorun.inf on USB sticks, ladies and gentlemen | Jun 18 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, in these situations, as soon as the malware runs in the VM/sandbox environment, it exploits one of the flaws in the VM/sandbox, escapes, and gets to run on the actual system, but it gets worse. Defender runs with System level permissions, which is actually higher than Administrator on Windows. | Jun 18 16:14 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: That figures | Jun 18 16:15 |
| XRevan86 | that with that level of sandbox trust they wouldn't sandbox the sandbox :) | Jun 18 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | So once the malware is running as System, courtesy of Microsoft, it can basically do anything it wants, including kernel patching, which "PatchGuard" normally would stop, even for a process running as Administrator. | Jun 18 16:16 |
| MinceR | 18 221222 < XRevan86> Everybody knows sandboxing is never perfect | Jun 18 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I bet the idea looked great on paper for the directors board :) | Jun 18 16:17 |
| MinceR | the people responsible for "modern" web browsers and the proliferation of javascript do not understand this | Jun 18 16:17 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Jun 18 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | Once you can patch the Windows kernel, you can add a malicious unsigned driver to it and BAM, you're a rootkit, and cloaked from further detection, at least while Windows is running. (Although a live environment antivirus that mounts your Windows partition might still be able to find and kill it.) | Jun 18 16:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They kinda do | Jun 18 16:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They just do it anyway for the sake of convinience | Jun 18 16:18 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: then they're malicious | Jun 18 16:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: At least they try to overcome this | Jun 18 16:19 |
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| XRevan86 | And Microsoft seems to just have pink goggles on | Jun 18 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86: Running the malware in a simulated environment is risky, but they probably moved to that because old style heuristics don't work well when the code is obfuscated. | Jun 18 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | And it's easy to get false positives with cases like that. Like, remember when old versions of uTorrent were detected as viruses. | Jun 18 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | Or keygens or cracked EXEs with no DRM. | Jun 18 16:20 |
| XRevan86 | > Or keygens or cracked EXEs with no DRM | Jun 18 16:20 |
| XRevan86 | I thought that's intentional | Jun 18 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | Not malicious, but the antivirus flagged it because the idea was there was something weird about the file and it was better to be wrong . | Jun 18 16:20 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Still a risky idea | Jun 18 16:21 |
| XRevan86 | and they made it mandatory | Jun 18 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I've been talking about this on Facebook. | Jun 18 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | I added, Imagine what going to the doctor would be like if the doctor was like a Windows antivirus program. You can't be sure of anything the doctor is telling you because they're all frequently wrong, but they could be right, so you head over to "DoctorTotal" and ask all of them, and 12 of 43 say it's cancer. | Jun 18 16:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 16:23 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: And then the prescription the doctor gives is mandatory | Jun 18 16:24 |
| XRevan86 | like in an institution | Jun 18 16:24 |
| XRevan86 | - Okay, I don't know for sure but I'm prescribing you Haloperidolum. | Jun 18 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | - Do I have to? | Jun 18 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | - Yes, yes you have to. | Jun 18 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | We're going to have to take that leg son, it could be gangrene. | Jun 18 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | Are you sure? | Jun 18 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | Well, 39% sure... | Jun 18 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | Can I see another doctor? | Jun 18 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | - E'nope | Jun 18 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, for whatever good it will do. That weird Russian doctor nobody has ever heard of says it should be fine. | Jun 18 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: The famous Dr. Cherezzhopov? | Jun 18 16:27 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: what are your thoughts on noatime vs relatine on ssd? | Jun 18 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Speaking of doctors, one late night comedian posted a picture of Trump's personal physician. | Jun 18 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | Said he looked like the guy that sold you mushrooms at Burning Man. | Jun 18 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | ("Cherez zhopu" means "through the arse", couldn't resist to make that even though nobody would understand) | Jun 18 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: noatime doesn't have too many drawbacks, but it can stop a significant amount of mostly useless writes. | Jun 18 16:29 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: sure, but what about relatime? | Jun 18 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | Mutt might have trouble with it, but Ted T'so mentioned a workaround for that. | Jun 18 16:29 |
| MinceR | "relatime gives the same speed (and flash write cycle conservation) benefits as noatime, without causing trouble to old-fashioned mail notifiers." | Jun 18 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | relatime can still cause a lot of writes. | Jun 18 16:30 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | Say you're working with a ton of small files that you're frequently creating or destroying. | Jun 18 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | Like a git clone would still cause a bunch of writes. | Jun 18 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's probably not too much different one way or the other for a normal user, but since there are basically no drawbacks to noatime, I use noatime. | Jun 18 16:31 |
| MinceR | i see | Jun 18 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | And you don't need to use nodiratime anymore because noatime covers that too now. | Jun 18 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | Man, these Debian 9 Live images are huge. | Jun 18 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | WTF are they putting in there? | Jun 18 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | The Gnome live image is about 700 MB larger than Fedora. | Jun 18 16:34 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/lNF425r.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/Cw6d5 ) | Jun 18 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Industrial chocolate sculpture | Jun 18 16:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | Fedora uses xz compression on live images though. Debian might not. | Jun 18 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora also has the advantage of Delta RPM, whereas Debian-based distributions have to download an entire package for every update. | Jun 18 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | If you connection is metered, then definitely use Fedora. | Jun 18 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | Or CentOS. CentOS 7.x has Delta RPMs. | Jun 18 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | I might just go ahead and clobber Fedora and install CentOS 8 whenever it ships. | Jun 18 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to be on a long term stable distribution, but Debian is not that distribution. | Jun 18 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | When they say Stable is FROZEN, they mean it. | Jun 18 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | It gets crusty really fast. | Jun 18 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat backports a lot of things like drivers to their Enterprise Linux kernel. | Jun 18 16:37 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6h2rvk/why_do_people_dislike_pulseaudio/ | Jun 18 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why do people dislike PulseAudio? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r0qaw ] | Jun 18 16:37 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, it is true that it exposed a lot of bugs in ALSA that have since been fixed. | Jun 18 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | And Ubuntu 8.04 was a horrible mess. | Jun 18 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | I had all sort of sound issues in Ubuntu 8.04 that just didn't happen in Fedora. | Jun 18 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu almost always has a lot of weird bugs. | Jun 18 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | They pull from Debian Unstable and try to sort everything out in a matter of months, for starters. | Jun 18 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | And the problem is made worse by hundreds of Ubuntu patches and people at Canonical that clearly have no idea what they are doing. | Jun 18 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | How many releases now have had that broken dnsmasq setup that causes page load errors? | Jun 18 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | That was there 4 years ago and still there in 17.04. | Jun 18 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | They just do an unbelievably shitty job most of the time .The LTS releases are a little better because they're more conservative to begin with, which gets them better packages to start out with. | Jun 18 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer4 mins · Chicago · Trying out MP3 for the first time in about 10 years. The LAME encoder has gotten a lot better. The fact that MP3 is in the public domain now means we can do whatever we want with it without patent threats and licensing demands from Fruenhofer and Technicolor (Thomson Consumer Electronics). Despite the former patent holders declaring MP3 dead, it is, in fact, still the only format that any hardwar | Jun 18 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | e will definitely play, and although technically inferior to Vorbis, it's not "terrible", and thanks to the patent expiration, MP3 is now (legally) just as Free (as in freedom) as Ogg Vorbis is. It's possible that MP3 stores could even lower their prices since they no longer owe any royalties for the format itself. Be free, MP3! Be free! | Jun 18 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6hzaxx/systemd_falls_back_to_google_nameservers_when_no/ | Jun 18 17:02 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer1 min · Chicago · So, I was looking at the notes for the LAME MP3 encoder and I stumbled onto something that's pretty bad. Versions 3.98.1 and higher enforce ISO standards compliance because some Fruenhofer decoder libraries, such as the ones that shipped with Windows Media Player up through Windows Vista would crash if you used certain MP3s encoded by LAME. The problem was that LAME was trying to make the most ef | Jun 18 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | ficient usage of MP3's bit reservoir and that conflicted with the MP3 standard in a way where the behavior was undefined. Many decoders worked just fine, but at least Windows Media Player would crash. The solution was to not use the bit reservoir as efficiently on 320 kbps frames. Fortunately, in Variable Bitrate Mode, few frames are 320 kbps frames and the bit reservoir becomes far less utilized anyway, so the file bloat primari | Jun 18 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | ly effect CBR 320 MP3s (which will be 2-3% bigger than they would have been under the previous bit reservoir strategy) and to a lesser extent VBR at V0 and V1. The V2 settings and lower aren't affected much. Thanks Microsoft! | Jun 18 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | *affects | Jun 18 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer1 min · Chicago · So, I was looking at the notes for the LAME MP3 encoder and I stumbled onto something that's pretty bad. Versions 3.98.1 and higher enforce ISO standards compliance because some Fruenhofer decoder libraries, such as the ones that shipped with Windows Media Player up through Windows Vista would crash if you used certain MP3s encoded by LAME. The problem was that LAME was trying to make the most ef | Jun 18 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | ficient usage of MP3's bit reservoir and that conflicted with the MP3 standard in a way where the behavior was undefined. Many decoders worked just fine, but at least Windows Media Player would crash. The solution was to not use the bit reservoir as efficiently on 320 kbps frames. Fortunately, in Variable Bitrate Mode, few frames are 320 kbps frames and the bit reservoir becomes far less utilized anyway, so the file bloat primari | Jun 18 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | ly effect CBR 320 MP3s (which will be 2-3% bigger than they would have been under the previous bit reservoir strategy) and to a lesser extent VBR at V0 and V1. The V2 settings and lower aren't affected much. Thanks Microsoft! | Jun 18 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Jun 18 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | I meant to add... | Jun 18 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | Having studied the behavior of the Fruenhofer encoders that support VBR, none of them use frames bigger than 256kbps. Is this why? LAME (in my experience) always produces better MP3 files than other encoders. In fact, the only other encoder that was ever close was Xing/Helix. (I don't know what became of those. RealNetworks licensed the code under the open source MIT X11 license, so someone could use any part of it they want... | Jun 18 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | ) | Jun 18 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | So the FhG encoders will avoid the bit bloat problem *and* avoid crashing certain versions of their own decoder, including the one that shipped with Windows Media Player for many years, at the expense of quality. | Jun 18 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | The encoder used is as or more important than the file format. | Jun 18 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | You can get great results with MP3 (LAME) or terrible results with AAC (FAAC). | Jun 18 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ogg Vorbis hasn't really been tuned as much. Chris Montgomery has focused more on avoiding potential regressions than tuning Vorbis. | Jun 18 17:11 |
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| DaemonFC | Yeah, MP3 is "dead". I'm sure Amazon and 7digital will go running to MPEG-LA begging to pay royalties again for the AAC format that isn't a lot better. | Jun 18 17:23 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/y54ndVj.gif | Jun 18 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | Apple is part of the MPEG-LA. They were really the first and only music store to adopt the format. | Jun 18 17:23 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Why specifically Ramadan? Christianity has a celebration of hunger too: Pascha^W Easter | Jun 18 17:37 |
| MinceR | that was in another part of the year | Jun 18 17:38 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ramadan is today? | Jun 18 17:38 |
| XRevan86 | * tomonth %) | Jun 18 17:38 |
| MinceR | 2017 date 27 May \u2013 24 June (Umm al-Qura)[1][2] | Jun 18 17:39 |
| cubexyz | clear | Jun 18 17:46 |
| cubexyz | oops | Jun 18 17:47 |
| cubexyz | I don't suppose anyone knows how to reset a video driver in linux | Jun 18 17:48 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What do you mean, reset? | Jun 18 17:49 |
| cubexyz | I'll give an example... | Jun 18 17:49 |
| cubexyz | your screen is blank | Jun 18 17:50 |
| cubexyz | you can't see anything you type | Jun 18 17:50 |
| cubexyz | mouse does nothing (nothing visible anyways) | Jun 18 17:50 |
| cubexyz | but... | Jun 18 17:50 |
| cubexyz | you can ssh into the computer | Jun 18 17:50 |
| cubexyz | so is there a way to reset the video driver so you can see again? | Jun 18 17:51 |
| cubexyz | I want to at least get the text console working | Jun 18 17:52 |
| cubexyz | ok... init 4 does sometimes work | Jun 18 17:55 |
| cubexyz | this is on slack | Jun 18 17:55 |
| cubexyz | and init 4 makes it go back into KDE :-/ | Jun 18 17:56 |
| cubexyz | kdm_greet just needs to be told to use icewm or something lighter | Jun 18 17:57 |
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| DaemonFC | Richard Stallman supported Vorbis under the BSD license because he was worried that MP3 would be the done thing if Vorbis didn't gain traction. | Jun 18 18:01 |
| cubexyz | I think Fedora used to use runlevel 5 for full multi-user with X-based login | Jun 18 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | What happened was that MP3 as the the done thing anyway, Vorbis was largely ignored, and eventually the MP3 patents expired. | Jun 18 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | So the MP3 problem is gone now, but we had to wait an awfully long time for that. | Jun 18 18:01 |
| cubexyz | at least FC1 did, don't know about now | Jun 18 18:02 |
| cubexyz | there's something goofy going on with the text console on slack | Jun 18 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876561451519025153 | Jun 18 18:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How To Setup Open #Watcom On #WINE for Windows | Jun 18 18:06 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/kHJhMjW.gifv | Jun 18 18:15 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3 Up to MP3 2.0 has gone patent end. | Jun 18 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MP3 - Wikipedia | Jun 18 18:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876561635829305344 | Jun 18 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Latest round of backports PPA updates include Plasma | Jun 18 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.10.2 for Zesty 17.04 https://t.co/kNWvvrF0ky | Jun 18 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #plasma #gnu # | Jun 18 18:16 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://www.audioblog.iis.fraunhofer.com/mp3-software-patents-licenses/ the licencing program has ended. As we don't know if all the data on 2.5 mp3 will be released. | Jun 18 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.audioblog.iis.fraunhofer.com | Alive and Kicking – mp3 Software, Patents and Licenses | Fraunhofer Audio Blog [ http://ur1.ca/r0qon ] | Jun 18 18:17 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: disgusting | Jun 18 18:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Smelly_Henry/status/876565155211087873 | Jun 18 18:20 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 18:21 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 18 18:27 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 18 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876566654779633665 | Jun 18 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: Security in Medicine, #WannaCry, | Jun 18 18:28 |
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| razielle_tzu | hi sebsebseb | Jun 18 18:29 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ok perfect you can probably help me :d | Jun 18 18:29 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: Security in Medicine, #WannaCry, #LetsEncrypt, Rooting...' | Jun 18 18:30 | |
| razielle_tzu | depends what with | Jun 18 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: a few issues with my MX 4 Ubuntu Edition now | Jun 18 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: so preparing to factory re set, and then re flash with ubports, may try out fly me os first since its meizu | Jun 18 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | anyway | Jun 18 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | videos off it | Jun 18 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | images off it | Jun 18 18:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sectest9 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: Security in Medicine, #WannaCry, #LetsEncrypt, Rooting...' | Jun 18 18:30 | |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: but one thing I want to back up myself copy is the texts first | Jun 18 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | which are stored in a database, but getting access to that database is the thing | Jun 18 18:31 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: looks lilke can try and copy the file on the phone into say downloads or documents, or use a ssh server and scp | Jun 18 18:31 |
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| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: how do I cp into a folder? | Jun 18 18:31 |
| razielle_tzu | i kinda know how to do that with android but not ubuntu, i told you this before | Jun 18 18:31 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: yes, but that shoudn't matter see here | Jun 18 18:32 |
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| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/342/how-do-i-or-would-i-a-few-things | Jun 18 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.ubports.com | How do I or would I a few things | UBports Forum [ http://ur1.ca/r0qqm ] | Jun 18 18:32 | |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: its just standard linuxey command stuff really now | Jun 18 18:32 |
| sebsebseb | if I can copy the hidden file over to say documents, I can get access from normal usb with mtp, I thinik that's what he meant in last comment | Jun 18 18:33 |
| razielle_tzu | that last comment gives you the exact command for copying the sqlite database, all you need to do is input the user and ip in place of the <user>@<ubuntu pc ip address> | Jun 18 18:34 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YDAl0yZyrA | Jun 18 18:34 |
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| razielle_tzu | same with the person before telling you the exact rsync command for backing the whole image up | Jun 18 18:34 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: yes that's the next thing | Jun 18 18:35 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: but not going to risk losing my texts | Jun 18 18:35 |
| sebsebseb | I do that later on | Jun 18 18:35 |
| sebsebseb | rsync | Jun 18 18:35 |
| sebsebseb | there's guide for that even on wiki | Jun 18 18:35 |
| razielle_tzu | rsync just copies everything on the phone to a computer's hdd, it doesn't delete anything | Jun 18 18:35 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: I don't tend to use the cp command, but should be able to copp from one folder into another | Jun 18 18:35 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: oh yeah rsync used that for mageia isos in the past pre testing oens | Jun 18 18:36 |
| sebsebseb | but still I like the idea of being able to copy the texts seperatly | Jun 18 18:36 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: so I copy the file on the phone terminal, hopefuly that owrks, then need to put it into say documents folder on the phone | Jun 18 18:37 |
| sebsebseb | how to do that? | Jun 18 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2017/06/msg00017.html | Jun 18 18:37 |
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| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: send a copy of this file, to this folder, how ? | Jun 18 18:38 |
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| razielle_tzu | the phone terminal command tells it to copy the db to a folder on your computer NOT a folder on the phone | Jun 18 18:43 |
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| cubexyz | I guess it boils down to whether or not I can rmmod the video driver module | Jun 18 18:58 |
| cubexyz | so far I've never been able to do that, not that I can remember | Jun 18 18:58 |
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| cubexyz | and there's alt-SysReq-r | Jun 18 18:59 |
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| cubexyz | between slack and suspend/resume, exiting X and flipping alt-ctrl-f1 etc it seems to put the video card into a bad state | Jun 18 19:01 |
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| cubexyz | obviously I'm not doing all that on the server, so I guess that leads to greater reliability | Jun 18 19:03 |
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| cubexyz | on the vector box suspend/resume doesn't work and I don't have any problem going from X to framebuffer and back again | Jun 18 19:04 |
| cubexyz | although once radeonfb is loaded, that's it | Jun 18 19:04 |
| cubexyz | I can't rmmod it | Jun 18 19:04 |
| cubexyz | there's no radeonfb reset possible... it's "in use" at that point | Jun 18 19:05 |
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| cubexyz | of course, I could just leave X alone, but I like to experiment | Jun 18 19:08 |
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| cubexyz | on the G4 chromebook I don't seem to have any problems | Jun 18 19:08 |
| cubexyz | I can suspend/resume a hundred times, and it just works | Jun 18 19:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop Built Against Qt 5.9 | Tux Machines | Jun 18 20:13 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/inkscape-krita-windows-store | Jun 18 20:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Two Popular Open-Source Apps Are Now Available in the Windows Store - OMG! Ubuntu! [ http://ur1.ca/r0r6g ] | Jun 18 20:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Krita costs $9.75 on the Windows store, but Microsoft gets a third of that. | Jun 18 20:27 |
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| DaemonFC | Paul Thurrott gave up and wrote an article about how MP3 was the de facto standard several years ago. | Jun 18 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Around the time Windows XP was released, he was predicting that WMA would become the standard and that the iPod would make extensive use of it. | Jun 18 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | I read it and thought "What is this guy smoking? WMA sounds like shit.". | Jun 18 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | I remember that when using Kazaa, you had to be careful because people would slip malicious Windows Media files into their share folder. | Jun 18 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | It would open up Internet Explorer and point it to a website that installed malware on your computer. | Jun 18 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | Hmm, Wikipedia says that ffmpeg has a reverse engineered WMA plugin. | Jun 18 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what the patent status on that is like. WMA (Original) might be clear, but WMA Pro may not be. | Jun 18 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | There's a confusing situation around WMA since it's not just one codec. It's actually a bunch and they're not all compatible with each other. | Jun 18 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | https://google.com/patents/EP1355471A2?cl=ko | Jun 18 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patent EP1355471A2 - Error resilient windows media audio coding - Google Patents [ http://ur1.ca/r0riy ] | Jun 18 21:45 | |
| DaemonFC | Hmm, looks like maybe 2023 before WMA is public domain. | Jun 18 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | That would make sense, considering the last versions released with major new feature support were released in 2003. | Jun 18 21:46 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: not that I will think that WMA will be a large problem due to it limited usage. | Jun 18 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, barely anyone was using it except maybe for its DRM. | Jun 18 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Like those subscription music sites. | Jun 18 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | For a while there was a utility that could remove the DRM from WMA files so you could download all the music you wanted and just keep it. | Jun 18 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | http://lame.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lame/lame/doc/html/history.html?revision=HEAD | Jun 18 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lame.cvs.sourceforge.net | LAME Changelog [ http://ur1.ca/r0ron ] | Jun 18 22:13 | |
| DaemonFC | "Resurrect Owen Taylor's code dated from 97-11-3 to properly deal with GTK1. This was transplanted back from aclocal.m4 with a patch provided by Andres Mejia. This change makes it easy to regenerate autotools' files with a simple invocation of autoconf -vfi. " | Jun 18 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | WTF!? | Jun 18 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | Which distribution still has GTK+ 1? | Jun 18 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pretty sure even Debian deleted it and tossed the last packages that depended on it. | Jun 18 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | The only notable one was probably XMMS. | Jun 18 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | According to changelogs, XMMS has been dead for 10 years. | Jun 18 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Last plugin update was August 2007. | Jun 18 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Holy crap. Fedora still has GTK1 and XMMS? | Jun 18 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | LOL! | Jun 18 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like the last time an actual version change occurred was for 1.2.11, which was never released. Fedora just updated to the latest CVS version | Jun 18 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | September 2nd 2008 | Jun 18 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora 10 | Jun 18 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | Everything after that was a mass rebuild. | Jun 18 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | The last CVS commit for XMMS was on November 17, 2007. | Jun 18 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=858240 | Jun 18 22:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-koji.fedoraproject.org | xmms-1.2.11-29.20071117cvs.fc26 | Build Info | koji [ http://ur1.ca/r0rpx ] | Jun 18 22:20 | |
| DaemonFC | * Mon Jan 16 2017 Tom Callaway <spot@fedoraproject.org> - 1:1.2.11-28.20071117cvs - Add Provides for bundled libmpg123. xmms doesn't really have a good way to use a system copy here, because it is older than dinosaurs. * Fri Nov 18 2016 Tom Callaway <spot@fedoraproject.org> - 1:1.2.11-27.20071117cvs - mp3 is back, baby! | Jun 18 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | LMAO | Jun 18 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the comments are pretty funny. | Jun 18 22:21 |
| oiaohm | Debian has xmms2 | Jun 18 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like a few Fedora maintainers keep it around and fix it up enough to keep working. | Jun 18 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | xmms2 is a fork. | Jun 18 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | So is Audacious. | Jun 18 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | XMMS was never going to stop using GTK+ 1 because it would break all of the plug-ins and some of them were proprietary, others unmaintained, some had authors who were dead, etc. | Jun 18 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | * Thu Feb 14 2013 Tom Callaway <spot@fedoraproject.org> - 1:1.2.11-18.20071117cvs - drop esound support (esound is dead dead dead) | Jun 18 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 18 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | And I'm glad, glad, glad. | Jun 18 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | ESound was terrible. | Jun 18 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | * Fri Jul 15 2011 Tom Callaway <spot@fedoraproject.org> - 1:1.2.11-15.20071117cvs - fix alsa plugin loop code to, well, stop looping when the track is done - fix desktop file to enqueue and play files - add patch from Ubuntu for CVE-2007-0653 | Jun 18 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | OK, I installed it. Let's see what it does. | Jun 18 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it does work but it's REALLY tiny. | Jun 18 22:29 |
| oiaohm | Some of the things you find in fedora are what they. | Jun 18 22:29 |
| oiaohm | are thinking. | Jun 18 22:29 |
| oiaohm | I don't know of any exact reason to keep xmms alive. | Jun 18 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19222751_366762830392596_4990298151019036627_o.jpg?oh=053c0a376ce2d60170b39d899c2e7b78&oe=59DEB936 | Jun 18 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | XMMS next to Audacious. | Jun 18 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | I posted it to Facebook. | Jun 18 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer1 min · XMMS on the left, still using the GTK+1 toolkit. Obviously never going to support HiDPI displays. The Audacious fork on the left. At least that uses GTK+ 2. Hopefully someone ports it to GTK+ 3, but at least Audacious is usable without squinting. XMMS dates back into the 1990s. It was one of the first easy to use graphical music players for unix systems. It was designed as a clone of Winamp, which was very po | Jun 18 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | pular at the time. | Jun 18 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: It's kind of insane to keep XMMS around. | Jun 18 22:37 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: you do have wayland/X11 scaling | Jun 18 22:38 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so gtk1 on HiDPI screen should be possible. | Jun 18 22:38 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: of course not look any better. | Jun 18 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Free_Documentation_License#Criticism | Jun 18 23:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | GNU Free Documentation License - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0s0a ] | Jun 18 23:09 | |
| DaemonFC | That's insane. | Jun 18 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | You have to kill the rainforest printing out the entire license just for quoting a piece of text in a GFDL-licensed document. | Jun 18 23:10 |
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| MinceR | i do | Jun 19 10:33 |
| schestowitz | thanks, as long as we don't lose them | Jun 19 10:34 |
| MinceR | but i haven't organized them fully | Jun 19 10:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | That's random: OpenBSD adds more kernel security | Jun 19 10:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How to install Linux on a Chromebook (and why you should) | Jun 19 11:01 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'That's random: OpenBSD adds more kernel security https://t.co/fJ4eN6bLRv' | Jun 19 11:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora & EFI mount problem = failed boot | Jun 19 11:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Chuwi #Lapbook and Other Laptops/Ultrabooks With #GNU / | Jun 19 11:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Audiocasts: #LateNightLinux, #LinuxAction News, and | Jun 19 12:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian Replaces #MySQL With #MariaDB, Other Release News | Jun 19 12:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers News: #COTS and #Kubernetes | Jun 19 12:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Xen, collaboration tools, and upcoming #FOSS events | Jun 19 12:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Development News: Getting Involved in #FOSS, Learning | Jun 19 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Git, Getting Started With #Python | Jun 19 12:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE News: #Brooklyn 0.1, #Wayland Session, #KIO, #Cantor | Jun 19 12:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 12:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876839662463184904 | Jun 19 12:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kernel Space: New LTS, #Mesa 17.1.3, and More #Graphics | Jun 19 12:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space: New LTS, Mesa 17.1.3, and More Graphics | Tux Machines | Jun 19 12:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/876839845003505664 | Jun 19 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Kernel Space: New LTS, #Mesa 17.1.3, and More #Graphics | Jun 19 12:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @MyNameIsZK1234 2.4.25 & #MariaDB 10.2.6 https://t.co/Xky4vyneU2 | Jun 19 13:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TheSSS 22.0 Linux Server Out with Kernel 4.9.13, Apache 2.4.25 & MariaDB 10.2.6 | Tux Machines | Jun 19 13:36 | |
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| XRevan86 | humans | Jun 19 13:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New #SparkyLinux Tool Notifies Users About New Updates | Jun 19 14:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Right on Their Desktops https://t.co/CHqwmDjQsv | Jun 19 14:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876871467723620353 | Jun 19 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linus #Torvalds Hopes to Release the #Linux 4.12 Kernel | Jun 19 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in Two Weeks, on July 2 https://t.co/BYjpNDa1NO | Jun 19 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernel | Jun 19 14:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds Hopes to Release the Linux 4.12 Kernel in Two Weeks, on July 2 | Tux Machines | Jun 19 14:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876872259604008960 | Jun 19 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Is IoT the Future of Linux? https://t.co/OBCa0OjyNV | Jun 19 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #iot | Jun 19 14:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is IoT the Future of Linux? | Tux Machines | Jun 19 14:43 | |
| DaemonFC | I'd be interested to know what Red Hat does with their Enterprise Linux kernels. | Jun 19 14:43 |
| schestowitz | ask their NSA partners | Jun 19 14:44 |
| DaemonFC | They used to break out the patch sets and now they release the kernel source with patches already applied. | Jun 19 14:44 |
| schestowitz | maybe for added security they squeeze in things | Jun 19 14:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitzWell, if you compile the GPL'd source the same way they do, it turns into the same binary. | Jun 19 14:44 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/11/28/microsoft_update_servers_left_all_azure_rhel_instances_hackable/ | Jun 19 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Microsoft update servers left all Azure RHEL instances hackable • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/qohsg ] | Jun 19 14:44 | |
| DaemonFC | So it's not closed source, but it's hard to see exactly what they've done. | Jun 19 14:45 |
| schestowitz | yes, it is | Jun 19 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | They did it to frustrate Oracle from what I can tell. | Jun 19 14:45 |
| schestowitz | and sometimes the NSA bribes or blackmails engineers | Jun 19 14:45 |
| schestowitz | to insert what they will later call "oops" of "bug" | Jun 19 14:45 |
| schestowitz | we know this also because earlier this month Telegram's founder wrote something to that effect | Jun 19 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Well, it would have to be in the kernel source somewhere. | Jun 19 14:45 |
| MinceR | they did things to frustrate me as well, so fuck them | Jun 19 14:46 |
| DaemonFC | Without knowing where to look, it would be hard to spot. | Jun 19 14:46 |
| DaemonFC | And they could just say it was an accident if anyone noticed. | Jun 19 14:46 |
| schestowitz | speak to insider | Jun 19 14:46 |
| schestowitz | esp. build team | Jun 19 14:46 |
| schestowitz | they know how it's done | Jun 19 14:46 |
| DaemonFC | Well, after RHEL started doing this, Oracle Linux has had to ship two kernels. | Jun 19 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | You load one, it's RHEL compatible. You load the other, it's got all of Oracle's stuff. | Jun 19 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | It makes their distribution less valuable, because before they were taking the RHEL kernel and adding their own stuff to it and claiming that they had a RHEL compatible kernel with all of their stuff in it too. | Jun 19 14:49 |
| DaemonFC | Now if you boot into the Oracle kernel, it's impossible to say whether it's *really* 100% compatible with RHEL. | Jun 19 14:50 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle says that it is, but users have found out otherwise in some cases. | Jun 19 14:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure why people think that BtrFS is so great. If it's so great then why is it such a slug? | Jun 19 14:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876873032794615808 | Jun 19 14:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Open Source will Overtake Proprietary Software by | Jun 19 14:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2020 | Jun 19 14:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/J4e54jmYaY (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 19 14:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Open Source will Overtake Proprietary Software by 2020 | Tux Machines | Jun 19 14:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | It's not an answer to ZFS. That's why Ubuntu ships ZFS. | Jun 19 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | They package it wrong, but since when has that stopped them? :P | Jun 19 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | ZFS doesn't have huge memory requirements. Or CPU requirements, for that matter. I was running it on a laptop with 1 GB of RAM and a Sempron 3000 Mobile processor a long time ago as part of OpenSolaris. | Jun 19 14:52 |
| MinceR | only if you enable the features that make zfs worth using? :> | Jun 19 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't use deduplication, you're fine. | Jun 19 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | If you do, then big memory is nice. | Jun 19 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | Also, ZFS makes some assumptions about the system that Linux has a hard time meeting. | Jun 19 14:54 |
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| DaemonFC | So if you are going to run ZFS, it's better to do it on 64-bit Linux. | Jun 19 14:54 |
| DaemonFC | It uses virtual address space heavily, which is normal in Solaris, but discouraged by Linux. | Jun 19 14:54 |
| DaemonFC | So other than that.... I mean, on a decent computer, you should be okay. The biggest pitfall is that Ubuntu will do something dumb and cause your data to be trashed. | Jun 19 14:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 19 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | Or your machine to become unbootable if you put / on ZFS. | Jun 19 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | That was never supported by Ubuntu. Some people figured out how to do it anyway and got burned bad by Ubuntu 17.04. | Jun 19 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | The solution is, if you REALLY want ZFS on Ubuntu, put your /boot and / on another file system. | Jun 19 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | You could do Ext4 /boot, XFS /, ZFS /home. | Jun 19 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | openSUSE does something similar, only it's BtrFS for /home. | Jun 19 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | I don't really want some exotic and barely tested file system running on a machine that I need to be stable though. | Jun 19 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | That's why I'm simply using Ext4 and leaving it alone. | Jun 19 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | BtrFS is never going to be "ready" if by "ready" you mean "performs well". | Jun 19 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's got a ton of features built into the file system, but most of those features are available in Ext4 either in the file system, at the vfs level, or in the kernel's LVM, RAID, and drive encryption facilities. | Jun 19 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | If you need them. | Jun 19 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | I have yet to see a benchmark where BtrFS is a well rounded file system that competes well with Ext4 or XFS. | Jun 19 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | It almost always beats them on things like sqlite, but loses badly on everything else. | Jun 19 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | I honestly think at this point that we're more likely to see an Ext5 than have BtrFS become the standard Linux file system. | Jun 19 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | Ext4 is a really great file system. Even if you only mount your Ext3 file system with it and don't change the on disk format, you get a lot of wins. | Jun 19 15:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Ext2/3 do a lot of things very inefficiently, so just mounting them with the Ext4 driver (like Fedora does), you get a better block allocator and some other things. | Jun 19 15:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Where Ext3 might call the block allocator 100,000 different times to write one file and risk having the file get fragmented, Ext4 will use an extent, preallocate the space needed, and then call its multiblock allocator one time. | Jun 19 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | So I was thrilled to update to Ext4. In fact, I was using it when it was still not quite supported even by Fedora. | Jun 19 15:07 |
| MinceR | yeah, and if you lose power, your filesystem will be hosed | Jun 19 15:08 |
| MinceR | but oh look, it's so fest | Jun 19 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Actually, this was fixed. | Jun 19 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | it syncs the file system every 5 seconds or so. So it hasn't displayed the file loss behavior since around 2.6.28 iirc. | Jun 19 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ancient history. | Jun 19 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ted T'so was correct that it wasn't really the file system that was broken. | Jun 19 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | Applications can always call sync, and they weren't always doing it and there was no reasonable expectation that all of them would be fixed. | Jun 19 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | Now that Ext4 comes along and forces one every now and then, app developers are going to continue to expect that and they will make even more broken apps. | Jun 19 15:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, only its default settings suck ass because of their stupid assumptions | Jun 19 15:12 |
| MinceR | and because ricing is more important than safety | Jun 19 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | Well, for lack of anything better. :P | Jun 19 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | JFS and ReiserFS are not an option. | Jun 19 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | They remain in the kernel because they still have some users, but they're not a good choice. | Jun 19 15:13 |
| MinceR | well, eventually it got to the point where if you're careful with your mount options, ext4 can actually work reliably | Jun 19 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | They also don't support SELinux file system labeling. | Jun 19 15:13 |
| MinceR | but i don't get why they had to go full retard after ext3 | Jun 19 15:13 |
| MinceR | http://direman.com/direman/comics/00001666.png | Jun 19 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | JFS can delay writing indefinitely so it's conceivable that any amount of data could be lost. | Jun 19 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | Enterprise file systems sometimes are designed like that on the assumption that you need high performance and you're going to have a battery backup on a system that uses it. | Jun 19 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | Also, there's one guy at IBM that works on JFS part-time. | Jun 19 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | That mostly means just making sure it doesn't break. | Jun 19 15:16 |
| MinceR | if performance is infinitely more important than reliability, you might as well just store your data in /dev/null | Jun 19 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | It has been in maintenance mode ever since it was merged. | Jun 19 15:16 |
| MinceR | it's really fast | Jun 19 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: If you have backups and there's a UPS then it's less of a problem. | Jun 19 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | JFS wasn't designed for your desktop computer. | Jun 19 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | There were actually two different JFS file systems that shared some common design. | Jun 19 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | The version in OS/2 and the version in AIX. | Jun 19 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | The version from AIX is what got GPL'd and merged into Linux. | Jun 19 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | When Serenity Systems couldn't get IBM to open source the JFS for OS/2 code, they ended up getting rid of it and porting the version from Linux to eComStation (OS/2) as an Installable File System. | Jun 19 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | IBM says that they won't ever be able to open source OS/2 even though they never plan to do anything with it again because much of the code is copyright Microsoft and Microsoft won't allow them to. | Jun 19 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | Much of the Microsoft OS/2 code ended up in Windows NT. | Jun 19 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | They had constant arguments between Microsoft and IBM. IBM would go and design something that was horribly bloated and then Microsoft would come by and optimize it, and IBM said that they were doing "negative work" because IBM considered development progress by number of source lines of code. | Jun 19 15:21 |
| MinceR | i heard a different story | Jun 19 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | That's when Bill Gates made the comment that judging progress by lines of code is like saying you made the best airplane because it's really heavy. | Jun 19 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | Or something like that. | Jun 19 15:22 |
| MinceR | where IBM worked properly and documented their code properly while m$ just hacked some shit up without documentation and immediately forgot how it worked | Jun 19 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I wouldn't go that far. | Jun 19 15:23 |
| MinceR | i'm not going to go to gates for software engineering advice | Jun 19 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | The leaked Windows 2000 source even shows that they aren't THAT bad. | Jun 19 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | But as time went on, they improved from where they were at with Win2K. | Jun 19 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | They moved app compatibility hacks out of the NT Kernel and into their own profiles. | Jun 19 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | That way they can just delete them later when the software in question is so old that nobody uses it | Jun 19 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | Without having to remember which source code file they put it in. | Jun 19 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | Linux has to implement some Windows-like behavior to run on PCs. Actually, a lot of Windows-like behavior, especially power management. | Jun 19 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | Device manufacturers frequently won't say how power management works, so the Windows driver *becomes* the documentation. :/ | Jun 19 15:26 |
| MinceR | they even had app compatibility hacks in their kernel | Jun 19 15:26 |
| MinceR | and they proudly announced that they had a microkernel. | Jun 19 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | The NT kernel itself is pretty small. | Jun 19 15:27 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/51EcTfM.jpg | Jun 19 15:27 |
| MinceR | oh, right | Jun 19 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | They're not counting things like pluggable APIs. | Jun 19 15:27 |
| MinceR | because not everything that runs in kernel mode is the kernel, right? | Jun 19 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | Which they use to reimplement Linux on top of Windows right now. | Jun 19 15:27 |
| MinceR | that's some weapons grade bullshitting right there | Jun 19 15:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It is a pun or something? | Jun 19 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | lxcore.sys and lxsys.sys I think. | Jun 19 15:28 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: "just let that sink in for a minute." | Jun 19 15:28 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: or "let that sink in" or something like that | Jun 19 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | They said they have a clean room implementation of Linux services. | Jun 19 15:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Oh %) | Jun 19 15:28 |
| MinceR | by the microsoft definition, every kernel is a microkernel | Jun 19 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | There was at least one case where they were returning error messages where the real Linux kernel doesn't. | Jun 19 15:28 |
| MinceR | you just point to a single instruction somewhere and claim "this is the kernel, the rest isn't" | Jun 19 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | They said they decided to keep the behavior because it wasn't breaking anything that they knew of. | Jun 19 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | Someone replied that the Microsoft behavior actually stops metasploit modules from being loaded. | Jun 19 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 19 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if there's any desirable software that it breaks. | Jun 19 15:29 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 15:30 |
| MinceR | presumably someone wrote metasploit not to use it | Jun 19 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I think the Microsoft membership on the Linux Foundation is a bribe so they get away with "Windows Subsystem for Linux" without being sued for trademark infringement. | Jun 19 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | It's actually NOT Linux at any point in the stack, but they pay the Linux Foundation $500,000 a year and they ignore it. | Jun 19 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | Even more hilarious, Microsoft calls the rest of the stack "userspace Linux" when it's actually mostly GNU. | Jun 19 15:32 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: GNU? What's that? | Jun 19 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | Linux is a kernel. Userspace Linux? What's that? | Jun 19 15:32 |
| XRevan86 | Ain't know no GNU | Jun 19 15:32 |
| XRevan86 | it's GPLv3, evil I tell ya | Jun 19 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | A more appropriate name might be GNU/Windows. | Jun 19 15:32 |
| XRevan86 | GNU is really not what Microsoft and Apple would like to work with. | Jun 19 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86: They do ship a LOT of software under the GPLv3 for "WSL". | Jun 19 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | Including Bash.... | Jun 19 15:33 |
| cubexyz | tivoization exists | Jun 19 15:33 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: that must be why one of their patsies is working on forcing systemd down our throats | Jun 19 15:33 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Yeah, they wouldn't if they could I bet though :) | Jun 19 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | Well, they have to have it or the software won't run, but they HATE GNU and the GPL, expecially version 3. | Jun 19 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | As long as they comply with the license, there's not much the FSF could do about it. | Jun 19 15:34 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: That's my point, yes. | Jun 19 15:34 |
| MinceR | they've put every call on dbus so the GPL doesn't force library users to be free software | Jun 19 15:34 |
| XRevan86 | So why would they mention GNU in any way if they can not to. | Jun 19 15:34 |
| MinceR | there doesn't seem to be much the FSF _wants_ to do about it | Jun 19 15:34 |
| MinceR | do they mention GNU? | Jun 19 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Not on any of the Microsoft websites I've read. They call the GNU software "userspace Linux". | Jun 19 15:35 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 15:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Why is that a problem? GPL for a library is pretty restrictive. | Jun 19 15:35 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: because it is not what the author intended | Jun 19 15:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What author? | Jun 19 15:36 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: whoever wrote the library | Jun 19 15:37 |
| XRevan86 | I think I'm missing the point :) | Jun 19 15:37 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If the library is designed in a way it only can be linked, there you have it. | Jun 19 15:37 |
| MinceR | http://www.businessinsider.com/photoshop-banknote-editing-restriction-2015-2 | Jun 19 15:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Photoshop banknote editing restriction - Business Insider | Jun 19 15:37 | |
| XRevan86 | you can't workaround author's intent like that | Jun 19 15:38 |
| MinceR | sure you can | Jun 19 15:38 |
| MinceR | put a stub in there that converts the call interface to IPC or a network interface, and you're done | Jun 19 15:38 |
| MinceR | guess what poettering is doing to all the interfaces he touches... | Jun 19 15:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, I see. | Jun 19 15:39 |
| XRevan86 | One could do that without any help though then… | Jun 19 15:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: System's "API" is not something that should enforce GPL though. | Jun 19 15:40 |
| MinceR | it is something that should not even exist | Jun 19 15:40 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: APIs shouldn't exist? o_0 | Jun 19 15:41 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: moving hostname and date to a dbus-dependent interface is a horribly stupid idea | Jun 19 15:41 |
| MinceR | in part because dbus itself sucks | Jun 19 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | An application doesn't become a derived work of the kernel simply for running on the OS in userspace. | Jun 19 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | Torvalds has said this many, many times. | Jun 19 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | You become a derived work of the kernel when you run as part of the kernel. | Jun 19 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | And for sure if you use any of the symbols marked only for GPL modules. | Jun 19 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, Nvidia does this anyway and nobody stops them. | Jun 19 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | They lie and say they're a GPL module and gain access to the symbols and then load their shitty driver. | Jun 19 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | People should really just buy Radeon and Intel graphics that have Free Software drivers throughout the stack. (Except for a little device microcode.) | Jun 19 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | Not only does it work and stay working without fucking around with some out of tree module, you can even keep Secure Boot on if you want, and there are WAY fewer bugs with the running system. | Jun 19 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | I've used Nvidia before, but only in the case when there was no way to really do Free drivers on Linux and run apps that needed high performance rendering. | Jun 19 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | The driver wasn't a pleasant experience. | Jun 19 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | After you install proprietary drivers, you always get more system crashes. | Jun 19 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | They don't have to follow kernel cor X.org coding standards because they aren't part of the kernel or X.org. So they cut corners and abuse every resource they can find and make your system unstable and vulnerable to attacks that wouldn't work on a system with Free drivers. | Jun 19 15:53 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/uTerI | Jun 19 15:57 |
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| MinceR | 19 214757 < DaemonFC> An application doesn't become a derived work of the kernel simply for running on the OS in userspace. | Jun 19 15:57 |
| MinceR | who said it did? | Jun 19 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | You said dbus was an end run around the GPL. | Jun 19 16:00 |
| MinceR | where did i mention the kernel? | Jun 19 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | Hmmm, maybe I misunderstood. | Jun 19 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure that bypassing linking by communicating over dbus to avoid the GPL would hold up in court. | Jun 19 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | It might, but you're in uncharted territory there. | Jun 19 16:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/876883909455351812 | Jun 19 16:05 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Nvidia gets around it by a condition in GPL called derived. The binary blob in Nvidia driver does not use a single header or structure from the Linux kernel. The wrapper of the nvidia driver is GPL and open source. The wrapper is using headers from the blob. So this way GPL wrapper driver is derived from the blob not the blob derived from GPL work. | Jun 19 18:05 |
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| DaemonFC | https://lwn.net/Articles/725657/ | Jun 19 19:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Important update for Intel graphics users. Eight bugs in i915 fixed. | Jun 19 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | xfs: fix spurious spin_is_locked() assert failures on non-smp kernels | Jun 19 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | Someone had CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK on on a non-smp kernel? | Jun 19 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 19 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | Well, nice catch anyway. Wow. | Jun 19 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | That's from the Linux 4.12-rc6 notes. | Jun 19 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer1 min · Chicago · The Supreme Court issued two important rulings today:1. The US federal government can't deny you a trademark solely because someone might be offended by it.2. Sex offenders can't be banned from social media. (Unanimous)The government argued in the first case that trademarks are government speech. Justice Alito, who I often disagree with, issued the court's written opinion, and it was fantastic. It e | Jun 19 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | nded with "Was the government trying to warn people of an impending cataclysmic event when it allowed the 'End Times Ministries' trademark?". | Jun 19 19:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: non smp kernel would be something like a single core cpu nas. | Jun 19 19:30 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I know a few of them one was using zfs on raid 0 just to be super scary. | Jun 19 19:30 |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable > Microsoft Exec Urges Linux Developers To Try Windows 10 | Jun 19 20:01 |
| cubexyz | ba-hahaha | Jun 19 20:01 |
| cubexyz | how about no? | Jun 19 20:02 |
| cubexyz | extinguish attempt: failed | Jun 19 20:03 |
| cubexyz | adding Microsoft components to a Linux machine is just stupid | Jun 19 20:06 |
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| cubexyz | everyone i've talked to thought win10 was a giant turd | Jun 19 20:15 |
| cubexyz | two examples: | Jun 19 20:15 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/more-win10-fun.txt | Jun 19 20:15 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-botch-up.txt | Jun 19 20:15 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: I know a lot running into windows 10 due to cpu support issue. | Jun 19 20:15 |
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| cubexyz | I update my computer | Jun 19 20:15 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/processors/000006105.html that is the problem. | Jun 19 20:16 |
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| oiaohm | A lot of people running windows 7 and 8 got free upgraded to windows 10 when they have unsupported CPUs. | Jun 19 20:16 |
| oiaohm | That is just mega goof. | Jun 19 20:16 |
| cubexyz | not to mention the baked-in crap that intel is doing | Jun 19 20:17 |
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| oiaohm | 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ Processors do look at that line and the ** clean install of Windows 10 on that is unstable you have to install 7 or 8 first then upgrade. | Jun 19 20:18 |
| oiaohm | So picky CPU support is not helping those who upgrade hardware. | Jun 19 20:18 |
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| oiaohm | Or deploy volume licenses. | Jun 19 20:19 |
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| schestowitz | [01:01] <DaemonFC> Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable > Microsoft Exec Urges Linux Developers To Try Windows 10 | Jun 19 20:21 |
| schestowitz | EEE | Jun 19 20:21 |
| schestowitz | third e is "exterminate" | Jun 19 20:21 |
| XRevan86 | seek, locate | Jun 19 20:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876960611133005826 | Jun 19 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why the last thing open source needs is more corporate | Jun 19 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | oversight https://t.co/iW1MdeDwO0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 19 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 19 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 19 20:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why the last thing open source needs is more corporate oversight | Tux Machines | Jun 19 20:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876960900732858369 | Jun 19 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #CentOS Linux Now Offers Official CentOS #Vagrant Images | Jun 19 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NihAxcEnSX (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 19 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 19 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 19 20:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why the last thing open source needs is...' | Jun 19 20:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS Linux Now Offers Official CentOS Vagrant Images for the Hyper-V Provider | Tux Machines | Jun 19 20:34 | |
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| schestowitz | XFaCE: that's the busters' slogan | Jun 19 20:45 |
| schestowitz | xraven i mean | Jun 19 20:45 |
| schestowitz | but xrevan is gone now | Jun 19 20:45 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#CentOS Linux Now Offers Official CentOS #Vagrant Images...' | Jun 19 20:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump How many more people need to die...' | Jun 19 20:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump How many more people need...' | Jun 19 20:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/vee_liang/status/876967760860815362 | Jun 19 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #TheSSS 22.0 Linux Server Out with Kernel 4.9.13, #Apache | Jun 19 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @vee_liang 2.4.25 & #MariaDB 10.2.6 https://t.co/Xky4vyneU2 | Jun 19 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 21:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TheSSS 22.0 Linux Server Out with Kernel 4.9.13, Apache 2.4.25 & MariaDB 10.2.6 | Tux Machines | Jun 19 21:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876968078663450624 | Jun 19 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: Neil deGrasse Tyson's #SpaceOdyssey, Ken Follett's | Jun 19 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Pillars of the Earth, and More | Jun 19 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XMncPn11Gr (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #games | Jun 19 21:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Neil deGrasse Tyson's Space Odyssey, Ken Follett's The Pillars of the Earth, and More | Tux Machines | Jun 19 21:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876968510202707968 | Jun 19 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics: #Nouveau, Radeon RADV, #Radeon #RADV, and | Jun 19 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AMDGPU https://t.co/B2fqGuw3Tt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 19 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #graphics #linux | Jun 19 21:04 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Neil deGrasse Tyson's #SpaceOdyssey, Ken Follett's The...' | Jun 19 21:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Nouveau, Radeon RADV, Radeon RADV, and AMDGPU | Tux Machines | Jun 19 21:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | Hmm, my graphics have some new issues after that kernel update. | Jun 19 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe I should go back to 4.11.5 for a while. | Jun 19 21:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876969441938087936 | Jun 19 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Manjaro 17.0.2-rc2 released (G,K,X) | Jun 19 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tyfo0esTC4 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 19 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ManjaroLinux #gnu #linux | Jun 19 21:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 17.0.2-rc2 released (G,K,X) | Tux Machines | Jun 19 21:09 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: they call it bleeding edge for a reason. | Jun 19 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | 4.11.6 was just a bugfix update. | Jun 19 21:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Manjaro 17.0.2-rc2 released (G,K,X) https://t.co/tyfo0esTC4 #ManjaroLinux...' | Jun 19 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876973889510887425 | Jun 19 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical, #Ubuntu, #Unity, #KeePassXC #Snap, and #MAAS | Jun 19 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ja3MsHBWnC (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 19 21:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical, Ubuntu, Unity, KeePassXC Snap, and MAAS | Tux Machines | Jun 19 21:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Canonical, #Ubuntu, #Unity, #KeePassXC #Snap, and #MAAS https://t.co/Ja3MsHBWnC...' | Jun 19 21:25 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: why swap kernels? | Jun 19 21:25 |
| schestowitz | are you after some cutting-edge features? | Jun 19 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Nah, it seemed pretty safe and said that it fixed 8 bugs with Intel graphics. Smallish release, really. | Jun 19 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | Other than that, it was only a few patches, like to fix mounting FAT volumes created under FreeBSD. | Jun 19 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | I think that Greg KH pushed it out because of the Intel graphics fixes. | Jun 19 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Now there seem to be some problems with XWayland that weren't there before. | Jun 19 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Like, you sometimes close Firefox or Pidgin and the app closes, but the X server that was attached to them doesn't tear down and close the window. :P | Jun 19 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Given that upgrading from 4.11.5 to 4.11.6 was the only change to my system today, I think that's probably what did it. | Jun 19 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: But in general, yeah, I like the latest kernel. Intel is still rolling out new Skylake features. | Jun 19 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | Not at the pace they were in previous releases, but it's like 1-2 things getting flipped on that make the graphics or power management work a little better in each new major kernel release now. So finishing touches, really. | Jun 19 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | But you really need to be running 4.10 if you don't want excessive power drain or missing wifi driver. | Jun 19 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | (At least on this laptop.) | Jun 19 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | I think the missing wifi driver was added in 4.8, but power management wasn't working reliably until 4.10. | Jun 19 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | That's why distributions like Debian never work out well for me. | Jun 19 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | They pick a kernel and the distribution is basically frozen in time for a couple of years. | Jun 19 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | They do backport kernels but then say that you may not get good security support for them. | Jun 19 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | So it doesn't sound like something you want to run. | Jun 19 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | Backports is made to sound pretty scary. | Jun 19 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876976956948000768 | Jun 19 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME News: #Nautilus and T4G-V2 https://t.co/Xt7iKSWk2k | Jun 19 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 19 21:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News: Nautilus and T4G-V2 | Tux Machines | Jun 19 21:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME News: #Nautilus and T4G-V2 https://t.co/Xt7iKSWk2k #gnu #linux' | Jun 19 21:41 | |
| cubexyz | wow, archive.org got 1924 toronto directory | Jun 19 21:47 |
| cubexyz | sarcastic :) | Jun 19 21:47 |
| cubexyz | only 93 years old, are the copyright maximalists sure it's old enough? | Jun 19 21:47 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME News: #Nautilus and T4G-V2 https://t.co/Xt7iKSWk2k #gnu #linux' | Jun 19 21:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | Back to the X Server for me. :P | Jun 19 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | Thought I'd try Wayland out again after some updates. | Jun 19 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | It's just hell on wheels right now except for Gnome apps. | Jun 19 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Looks like they're keeping Mono updated in Fedora. | Jun 19 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | Desktop apps using it are getting pretty crusty. | Jun 19 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | They all got abandoned around two years ago, it seems. | Jun 19 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/876980028864593920 | Jun 19 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Manjaro 17.0.2-rc2 released (G,K,X) | Jun 19 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec https://t.co/tyfo0esTC4 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 19 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ManjaroLinux #gnu #linux | Jun 19 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 19 23:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 17.0.2-rc2 released (G,K,X) | Tux Machines | Jun 19 23:30 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Google says "New sign in from Safari on Linux". | Jun 19 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | You can't tell me that nobody at Google has heard of Gnome. | Jun 19 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/102179 | Jun 19 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical, Ubuntu, Unity, KeePassXC Snap, and MAAS | Tux Machines | Jun 19 23:48 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Maybe better not to recommend Ubuntu. | Jun 19 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | Their "Intellectual Property Agreement" is getting to be a pretty nasty EULA. | Jun 19 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | Asking people to respect your trademarks is fine, but they go way further. | Jun 19 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | They also mention "Ubuntu Patents". | Jun 19 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | I think Linux Mint is okay as long as it's the Debian Edition. | Jun 19 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | They've basically taken Debian Testing and made a easy version for it that rolls. | Jun 19 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | But not to the point where a broken package is likely to get in. | Jun 19 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | So LMDE should probably be the default, but they seem to just be keeping their options open. | Jun 19 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | As Canonical gets nastier, that's a good idea. | Jun 19 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefulyl it won't be too hard to upgrade an in place system to the Debian Edition later. | Jun 19 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQLbakWESkw&list=PLuKg-WhduhkksJoqkj9aJEnN7v0mx8yxC&index=1 | Jun 20 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Electric Cars Aren't As Green As You Think - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r0yft ] | Jun 20 00:00 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#GNOME News: #Nautilus and T4G-V2 https://t.co/Xt7iKSWk2k #gnu #linux' | Jun 20 00:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News: Nautilus and T4G-V2 | Tux Machines | Jun 20 00:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://blogs.gnome.org/ernestask/2017/03/03/autoconf-and-meson-walk-into-a-bar/ | Jun 20 00:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Autoconf and Meson walk into a bar… – another “another GNOME blog” [ http://ur1.ca/r0yoz ] | Jun 20 00:49 | |
| DaemonFC | Getting rid of Autocrap. Whoop! Whoop! | Jun 20 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/11/28/microsoft_update_servers_left_all_azure_rhel_instances_hackable/ | Jun 20 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Microsoft update servers left all Azure RHEL instances hackable • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/qohsg ] | Jun 20 00:57 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/29/microsoft_out_of_band_patches/ | Jun 20 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Microsoft patched more Malware Protection Engine bugs last week • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/r0yqw ] | Jun 20 00:59 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-nature-of-weenies | Jun 20 01:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Nature of Weenies [ http://ur1.ca/r0ywf ] | Jun 20 01:28 | |
| MinceR | meson works? just wait until the gnome/"free"desktop/systemd guys get their hands on it. | Jun 20 01:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scavenging For Parts - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-06-09 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 20 01:57 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/damsel | Jun 20 02:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Damsel | Jun 20 02:18 | |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/16/bofh_2017_episode_7/ | Jun 20 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | BOFH: Halon is not a rad new vape flavour • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/r0z56 ] | Jun 20 02:26 | |
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| schestowitz | tessier_: serve down again | Jun 20 03:12 |
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| schestowitz | finally back | Jun 20 06:11 |
| schestowitz | f*ing hardware failure | Jun 20 06:11 |
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| schestowitz | meh | Jun 20 07:43 |
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| schestowitz | > Here's today's batch. We're ramping up for Midsummer. | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > About censorship or "filtering", I wish Falkvinge or an active PP member | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > would write (again) about /why/ Sweden has had the Freedom of | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > Information baked into its very constitution since 1766. Basically, | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > prior to that one political group held the government under their power | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > and used it their control choke off access as much as possible to | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > opponents. When a different bloc gained power they redid the | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > constitution to include what powers they would accept if their opponents | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > regained power. | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > People should have re-learned that same lesson regarding Obama and his | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > surveillance programmes. In regards to the Internet, it is more | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > critical and people should be thinking further ahead than just the | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > current political constellation and their chief opponents gain power. | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > Control of the Internet is amounts to the ability to control or prohibit | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > peaceable assembly. Yet sheeple act as if they think that somehow just | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > their own communications, and only their communications, will be exempt | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > from the restrictions they plan to put in place. History, new and old, | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > has shown them to be wrong. | Jun 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | You really ought to write short blog posts about those things as they deserve a wider audience, even is publicised anonymously. | Jun 20 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877170282510901249 | Jun 20 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux Games: #WildTerra Online, Paradigm, | Jun 20 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GemstoneKeeper, and #ScrapGarden https://t.co/9bTHXWk9gu | Jun 20 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gaming | Jun 20 10:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Wild Terra Online, Paradigm, Gemstone Keeper, and Scrap Garden | Tux Machines | Jun 20 10:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#gnu #linux Games: #WildTerra Online, Paradigm, #GemstoneKeeper, and...' | Jun 20 10:26 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.upguard.com/breaches/the-rnc-files | Jun 20 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.upguard.com | The RNC Files: Inside the Largest US Voter Data Leak [ http://ur1.ca/r12jk ] | Jun 20 10:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#gnu #linux Games: #WildTerra Online, Paradigm, #GemstoneKeeper, and...' | Jun 20 11:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @UBports favourited '#UBports is keeping the #UbuntuPhone dream alive (through...' | Jun 20 11:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877181895225856000 | Jun 20 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | News and e-press echos after #EUPL v1.2 publication | Jun 20 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nKYdg9XXoG (www.tuxmachines.org) #gpl | Jun 20 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gplv3 #eu #europe | Jun 20 11:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/877183596762714113 | Jun 20 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by News and e-press echos after #EUPL v1.2 publication | Jun 20 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/nKYdg9XXoG (www.tuxmachines.org) #gpl | Jun 20 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gplv3 #eu #europe | Jun 20 11:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877186692423307264 | Jun 20 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform | Jun 20 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RFX74guy5q (www.tuxmachines.org) #container | Jun 20 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #freesw #server | Jun 20 11:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform | Tux Machines | Jun 20 11:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform https://t.co/RFX74guy5q #container #gnu #linux...' | Jun 20 11:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877188489590296576 | Jun 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical Outs Major #Security Updates for All Supported | Jun 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu Linux Releases https://t.co/AuVimpDC5t | Jun 20 11:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877188842129960962 | Jun 20 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve | Jun 20 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi 3 Boot Support https://t.co/EJd2EZCOuD | Jun 20 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix #netbsd #raspi | Jun 20 11:39 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Canonical Outs Major #Security Updates for All Supported...' | Jun 20 11:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve...' | Jun 20 11:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Outs Major Security Updates for All Supported Ubuntu Linux Releases | Tux Machines | Jun 20 11:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve Raspberry Pi 3 Boot Support | Tux Machines | Jun 20 11:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @io_r_us retweeted @tuxmachines: 'NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve...' | Jun 20 11:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Canonical Outs Major #Security Updates for All Supported...' | Jun 20 11:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877189591278682112 | Jun 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Q.bo One open source robot launches for DIYers | Jun 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bWzI5N5N8C (www.tuxmachines.org) #qbo | Jun 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #robotics #raspi #linux #arduino #gnu #freesw | Jun 20 11:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q.bo One open source robot launches for DIYers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 11:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877190283066314753 | Jun 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Firefox on #Android https://t.co/IpM2QAd0KL | Jun 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #mozilla #google #freesw #www | Jun 20 11:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox on Android | Tux Machines | Jun 20 11:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @PartnerEng favourited '#SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform https://t.co/RFX74guy5q #container #gnu #linux...' | Jun 20 11:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform | Tux Machines | Jun 20 11:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Q.bo One open source robot launches for DIYers...' | Jun 20 11:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Firefox on #Android https://t.co/IpM2QAd0KL #mozilla #google #freesw #www' | Jun 20 11:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877191760019156992 | Jun 20 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Androidx86 Fork Lets Users Install and Run #Android | Jun 20 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7.1.2 #Nougat on Their PCs https://t.co/npmO3rtjuE | Jun 20 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspand #linux #raspi | Jun 20 11:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 Fork Lets Users Install and Run Android 7.1.2 Nougat on Their PCs | Tux Machines | Jun 20 11:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Androidx86 Fork Lets Users Install and Run #Android...' | Jun 20 11:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Androidx86 Fork Lets Users Install and Run #Android...' | Jun 20 11:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877199033521106944 | Jun 20 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #FOSS and #Sharing https://t.co/J4Waukzhxa | Jun 20 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #univa #dgplug | Jun 20 12:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jun 20 12:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877199860784652289 | Jun 20 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/TaR3fg4sXs | Jun 20 12:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 12:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: #FOSS and #Sharing https://t.co/J4Waukzhxa #freesw #univa #dgplug' | Jun 20 12:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/TaR3fg4sXs' | Jun 20 12:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877200847087841280 | Jun 20 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 20/6/2017: Chuwi Lapbook, Linux 4.12 RC6, Mesa | Jun 20 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 17.1.3 https://t.co/pVZIKo4ohT (techrights.org) | Jun 20 12:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/6/2017: Chuwi Lapbook, Linux 4.12 RC6, Mesa 17.1.3 | Techrights | Jun 20 12:26 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/final-wishes | Jun 20 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Final Wishes | Jun 20 12:37 | |
| MinceR | https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-putin-decries-excessive-demonization-stalin/28559464.html | Jun 20 12:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rferl.org | Putin Accuses Russia's Foes Of 'Excessive Demonization' Of Stalin | Jun 20 12:52 | |
| schestowitz | Would Stalin accuse the US of demonising Putler? | Jun 20 13:01 |
| MinceR | apparently so | Jun 20 13:04 |
| MinceR | his butt hurts because his great idol is "excessively" demonized | Jun 20 13:04 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure how the georgian butcher can be "excessively" demonized, or demonized at all | Jun 20 13:04 |
| MinceR | one of the most horrible humans to ever live | Jun 20 13:05 |
| MinceR | and that's quite the achievement | Jun 20 13:05 |
| schestowitz | worse than Hitler? | Jun 20 13:08 |
| schestowitz | I wonder how the West thought at the time | Jun 20 13:08 |
| schestowitz | not after the war was over and history was updated | Jun 20 13:08 |
| schestowitz | my understanding is that the West was more worried about the Bolsheviks and before the wars Hitler was viewed more as an ally against Communism | Jun 20 13:09 |
| MinceR | not sure | Jun 20 13:10 |
| MinceR | well, the west loved the russians for a while | Jun 20 13:10 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @lanrewajuadagba favourited 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/TaR3fg4sXs' | Jun 20 13:10 | |
| MinceR | they only thought of them as allies against the germans and the japanese | Jun 20 13:10 |
| MinceR | took them way too long that they were the same shit in different color | Jun 20 13:10 |
| MinceR | and even then they didn't care | Jun 20 13:10 |
| MinceR | nobody helped hungarians in 1956, for example | Jun 20 13:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/chandanghodela/status/877211977768091648 | Jun 20 13:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security Leftovers https://t.co/xGX9fg4WaZ | Jun 20 13:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @chandanghodela (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi #wannacry #microsoft | Jun 20 13:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #windows #nhs #ubuntu #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 20 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 13:11 | |
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| MinceR | but then again, maybe it would have been a waste of effort anyway | Jun 20 13:11 |
| MinceR | considering what hungarians did in 2010 to the freedom that fell in their laps | Jun 20 13:11 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement | Jun 20 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Munich Agreement - Wikipedia | Jun 20 13:12 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/kMKS6Pj.jpg | Jun 20 13:15 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Classic from 10 years ago: https://t.co/dfOJXs8GFD' | Jun 20 13:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Apple Rumor Site to Shut Down in Settlement - The New York Times | Jun 20 13:17 | |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact | Jun 20 13:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrve ] | Jun 20 13:20 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/pCSToT8.png (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/qvZ0w ) | Jun 20 13:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/chandanghodela/status/877213726868357120 | Jun 20 13:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security Leftovers https://t.co/W0xwewavBS | Jun 20 13:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @chandanghodela (www.tuxmachines.org) #wannacry #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 20 13:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #windows #microsoft #container #synology | Jun 20 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 13:38 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/AZAV5 | Jun 20 13:39 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks What a waste of money on lawyers...' | Jun 20 13:49 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/xiBRd | Jun 20 13:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I secretly planted a Giant Sequoia tree in My Mayor's Yard for Revenge after he Killed My Tree, Clyde. - Album on Imgur | Jun 20 13:50 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan FarmerJust now · Apple will force 2FA on iCloud accounts. How many years since The Fappening? | Jun 20 13:52 |
| MinceR | forcing is the only thing they care to do | Jun 20 13:53 |
| MinceR | just like microsoft and red hat | Jun 20 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan FarmerJust now · Apple computers targeted by spyware and ransomware according to the BBC.Also bitcoin miners. An individual Mac isn't very powerful, but when you have an entire botnet full of them, you can make some serious scratch while the users just wonder why their stupid Mac is burning up hot and slower than normal. | Jun 20 13:54 |
| MinceR | they should have got used to it | Jun 20 13:55 |
| MinceR | crApple isn't exactly good at cooling systems | Jun 20 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Gnome uses Webkit2 now. I've set up SELinux so that most things on my computer can't use the ptrace() system call. | Jun 20 13:55 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/IdozD | Jun 20 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My brother died - Album on Imgur | Jun 20 13:56 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i suspect Blink would be better | Jun 20 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose that means that if a Web Content process had a malicious script escape the sandbox that it couldn't attach to another Web Content process and read its memory or modify it. | Jun 20 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Apparently, Apple has a new file system | Jun 20 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | APFS | Jun 20 13:58 |
| MinceR | ooh | Jun 20 13:58 |
| MinceR | oh, i saw an article about it | Jun 20 13:59 |
| MinceR | https://eclecticlight.co/2017/04/06/apfs-is-currently-unusable-with-most-non-english-languages/ | Jun 20 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eclecticlight.co | APFS is currently unusable with most non-English languages – The Eclectic Light Company [ http://ur1.ca/r13we ] | Jun 20 13:59 | |
| DaemonFC | It sounded like ZFS, but not as good. | Jun 20 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | Apple enabled ZFS on earlier Beta builds of OS X but then yanked it back out, to the dismay of people who had already installed OS X to it. | Jun 20 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | Well, on one hand, it serves them right for enabling an experiment on a production system... :) | Jun 20 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | Apple never said it was going to land in a release version of OS X. | Jun 20 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that Linux could do ZFS right if anyone cared enough to, but it's never going to be mainlined. | Jun 20 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu will have to carry it by itself. | Jun 20 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | For all the shit they've just taken on, they might as well have integrated Reiser4. | Jun 20 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | At least it was designed for Linux. | Jun 20 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | At least it is under the GPL. | Jun 20 14:02 |
| MinceR | "production system" running macos? | Jun 20 14:03 |
| MinceR | "production system" on crApple hardware? | Jun 20 14:03 |
| MinceR | they deserve everything they get | Jun 20 14:03 |
| MinceR | fucking morons | Jun 20 14:03 |
| MinceR | Obstacle made sure to license ZFS so that it can't be legally integrated into Linux | Jun 20 14:04 |
| MinceR | so fuck Obstacle and fuck ZFS | Jun 20 14:04 |
| MinceR | with a rusty, poisoned chainsaw | Jun 20 14:04 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Did @CraigMurrayOrg even meet him in...' | Jun 20 14:05 | |
| DaemonFC | I wonder where I'd file a bug for "Gnome Web uses an insane amount of power, melts my laptop on sites like Facebook and Youtube.". | Jun 20 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | Using Firefox, my laptop is sitting at 7-8 watts and using Gnome Web on the same sites, it's closer to 20. | Jun 20 14:09 |
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| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1463390 | Jun 20 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1463390 – Gnome Web uses an insane amount of power, melts my laptop on sites like Facebook and Youtube. | Jun 20 14:24 | |
| schestowitz | I'm furious at Firefox | Jun 20 14:24 |
| schestowitz | takes like a gig or more of RAM sometimes | Jun 20 14:24 |
| schestowitz | for two tabs | Jun 20 14:24 |
| schestowitz | goes nuts | Jun 20 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | How reproducible: Open Gnome Web and do stuff on Facebook (especially try to make a new post) and/or watch Youtube videos. Actual results: Computer grinds to a near halt. Using power. Using power. Using power. Expected results: Gnome Web is fast and doesn't melt the laptop. Additional: I do have intel-va support installed from RPM Fusion. | Jun 20 14:24 |
| schestowitz | sometimes crashes | Jun 20 14:24 |
| schestowitz | I found https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/firefox-will-add-a-settings-section-that-lets-you-control-performance-/ | Jun 20 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Firefox Will Add a Settings Section That Lets You Control "Performance" [ http://ur1.ca/r140a ] | Jun 20 14:24 | |
| schestowitz | I can't install brave, their instructions don't work | Jun 20 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | Uber is almost as bad as Airbnb. | Jun 20 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | These landlords find out that tourists will pay more than renters and turn their units into Airbnb rentals instead. | Jun 20 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | Fewer apartments on the market. Rents go way up. | Jun 20 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | Airbnb is pretty much unregulated, so it was discovered that people with names that made them sound like they might be black were 16% less likely to be approved for an Airbnb rental. | Jun 20 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | Also, there's no government inspections, so you don't know that the unit will have a working fire alarm, CO2 detector, sprinklers, etc. | Jun 20 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | eerrr, Carbon monoxide that is. | Jun 20 14:27 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/31v1yg/why_is_ff_such_a_memory_hog/ | Jun 20 14:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why is FF such a memory hog? : firefox [ http://ur1.ca/r140p ] | Jun 20 14:27 | |
| DaemonFC | At least 9 people in the US have been poisoned by carbon monoxide in Airbnb rentals, and 1 died. | Jun 20 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | But we won't ever know how many for sure because Airbnb suppresses the information. | Jun 20 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's just a really nasty thing. | Jun 20 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | And people who rent their units on it are in danger too. | Jun 20 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | In one case, a renter stuffed a bunch of things down the toilet and did over $10,000 worth of damage, but Airbnb only paid the owner $78. | Jun 20 14:28 |
| schestowitz | "Play DRM content' | Jun 20 14:29 |
| schestowitz | in settings | Jun 20 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | In another case, an Airbnb renter became a squatter and it took four months to evict them. | Jun 20 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I don't use Airbnb. I find a way to stay with family/friends or I get a cheap-ish room at a reputable motel chain. | Jun 20 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | Not a roach motel, but something for like business travelers who don't want to spend a ton of money. | Jun 20 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | Super 8 has a policy where if you check in after 4 AM they don't count the first night, so I just drive and check in at Super 8 after 4 AM, sleep, and get my second night thrown in. | Jun 20 14:31 |
| schestowitz | it's a US thing | Jun 20 14:31 |
| schestowitz | open firefox | Jun 20 14:31 |
| schestowitz | no tabs | Jun 20 14:31 |
| schestowitz | just blank tab | Jun 20 14:31 |
| schestowitz | 400mb of RAM | Jun 20 14:31 |
| schestowitz | WTH? | Jun 20 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I want to throw it to the dogs | Jun 20 14:32 |
| schestowitz | but what to replace it with? rekonq again? | Jun 20 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | Rekonq is abandoned. | Jun 20 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | Qupzilla maybe. | Jun 20 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You can uncheck "Play DRM Content" and it won't download Widevine. | Jun 20 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora default. | Jun 20 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | Or you could get the no EME build that doesn't even support Widevine. | Jun 20 14:33 |
| schestowitz | default here too | Jun 20 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 20 14:33 |
| schestowitz | what's Qupzilla based on? | Jun 20 14:34 |
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| schestowitz | sounds like qt and moz | Jun 20 14:34 |
| MinceR | iirc it's crashkit on qt | Jun 20 14:35 |
| MinceR | (crashkit is also known as webkit) | Jun 20 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | meh | Jun 20 14:44 |
| schestowitz | rekonq gets blank-ish pages from diaspora | Jun 20 14:44 |
| MinceR | welcome to the "modern" web | Jun 20 14:45 |
| MinceR | it ain't done until it only works on chrome (and maybe some crApple shit) | Jun 20 14:45 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You tried to use China as a...' | Jun 20 14:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Unless they become "anonymous official" in the...' | Jun 20 14:48 | |
| schestowitz | i thought maybe js is to blame | Jun 20 14:49 |
| schestowitz | it works with moz-type browsers | Jun 20 14:49 |
| schestowitz | gecko and whatnot | Jun 20 14:49 |
| schestowitz | this is webkit based | Jun 20 14:49 |
| schestowitz | still fails | Jun 20 14:49 |
| schestowitz | doesn't help when I pretend to be other browsers | Jun 20 14:50 |
| schestowitz | "Diaspora doesn't support your version of Internet Explorer." | Jun 20 14:51 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jun 20 14:51 |
| schestowitz | even as wget or googlebot I ge f* all | Jun 20 14:52 |
| schestowitz | what an awful design for a site | Jun 20 14:52 |
| schestowitz | barely accessible text | Jun 20 14:52 |
| schestowitz | sudo apt-get install qupzilla | Jun 20 14:53 |
| schestowitz | will try this one next | Jun 20 14:53 |
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| schestowitz | qupzilla works OK with joindispora | Jun 20 14:55 |
| schestowitz | unlike rekonq | Jun 20 14:55 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 20 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that there's a race between authenticating to the server and entering chatrooms. If you enter #fedora too quickly, you get #fedora-unregistered but Pidgin joins in the order you list rooms, so I put #fedora last. | Jun 20 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Yeah, Rekonq never really panned out too much. | Jun 20 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | Qupzilla has better adblocking too. | Jun 20 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | Midori is pretty decent too, if you don't mind a dependency on WebkitGTK. | Jun 20 14:56 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... | Jun 20 14:56 |
| schestowitz | one tab, 15% of my RAM | Jun 20 14:56 |
| schestowitz | not liking this so far | Jun 20 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | KDE has GTK integration theme though, and Gnome has Qt integration now. | Jun 20 14:56 |
| schestowitz | I use to run firefox on a laptop with 32 mb or RAM | Jun 20 14:56 |
| schestowitz | firefox 3 or 1.5 | Jun 20 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I used to run the entire Mozilla Suite with 128 MB of RAM on my Windows 98 PC. | Jun 20 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | Before tabs existed. | Jun 20 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | With memory left to spare. | Jun 20 14:57 |
| schestowitz | 7 tabs, 20% of my ram | Jun 20 14:58 |
| schestowitz | 400mb | Jun 20 14:58 |
| schestowitz | not good, either | Jun 20 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't run a normal Windows 98 though. I had a utility that stripped Internet Explorer and a bunch of other crap out of the OS, removed Trident, and installed a Windows 95 OSR 2 shell patched to say Windows 98. | Jun 20 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | I found a zip file online with the three shell files that I needed. | Jun 20 14:58 |
| schestowitz | Thunderbird with JS on can work on, in thunderbrowse, but it's limited, can't write blog posts lkike that | Jun 20 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | It used a lot less RAM without the bloated Windows 98 shell. | Jun 20 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | It also didn't leak as much. | Jun 20 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | I actually kept it up and running for months at a time. | Jun 20 14:59 |
| schestowitz | maybe the rendering engines became the cause of bloat? | Jun 20 14:59 |
| schestowitz | not JS, I'm not even running it | Jun 20 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | IE pretty much sandbagged Windows. | Jun 20 14:59 |
| schestowitz | and stupid malloc heaps | Jun 20 15:00 |
| MinceR | the "standard" itself was bloated too | Jun 20 15:00 |
| MinceR | dooming all complete implementations | Jun 20 15:00 |
| schestowitz | no other explanation for browser with nothing in it hoarding so much ram | Jun 20 15:00 |
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| schestowitz | masturbating moneys with their "speed" | Jun 20 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: There's really only a couple of rendering engines that are relevant now. Webkit and Gecko. | Jun 20 15:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Trident/EdgeHTML are down to single digits iirc. | Jun 20 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | They're getting so low that I wouldn't be surprised if people stop bothering to test with them at some point. | Jun 20 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | NVidia serves a page with a picture of a rock if you visit in old versions of IE and it says "IE 6? You can't be serious.". | Jun 20 15:01 |
| schestowitz | i guess the onlu solution now it trying to make Firefox less of a piece of s* | Jun 20 15:01 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/K3zkh0K.jpg | Jun 20 15:01 |
| schestowitz | started empty session of firefox | Jun 20 15:02 |
| MinceR | Ubuntu Masturbating Monkey? | Jun 20 15:02 |
| schestowitz | took over 10 seconds | Jun 20 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Firefox is really the only Linux browser that people actually test in. | Jun 20 15:02 |
| schestowitz | 400mb, then 300 of RAM | Jun 20 15:02 |
| schestowitz | for one blank tab | Jun 20 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | If it breaks in Gnome Web, Midori, Qupzilla, they don't care. | Jun 20 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The multiprocess Firefox will use more. | Jun 20 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | The advantage is you get it all back when you close a tab. | Jun 20 15:03 |
| MinceR | and you'll get all sorts of new malfeatures | Jun 20 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox keeps getting bigger and bigger until you have to close and reopen the entire browser as single-process. | Jun 20 15:03 |
| MinceR | new proprietary blobs, new drm, new bugs, new limitations | Jun 20 15:03 |
| MinceR | i wonder when will failfox depend on systemd on Linux | Jun 20 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The way most people ran Firefox, just Widevine is an improvement over Flash. | Jun 20 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | Flash was copying a ton of features, poorly, and with millions of bugs, that the browser was already capable of. | Jun 20 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | It became an overglorified video player because sites demanded it for its DRM. | Jun 20 15:05 |
| MinceR | what's widevine? | Jun 20 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: A cross platform DRM from Google. | Jun 20 15:05 |
| MinceR | ain't it fucking precious | Jun 20 15:05 |
| MinceR | from fucking google | Jun 20 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | To be used as a Content Decryption Module. | Jun 20 15:05 |
| MinceR | "do no evil", my ass | Jun 20 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's hilariously weak too. | Jun 20 15:06 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Unless they become "anonymous official" in the...' | Jun 20 15:06 | |
| MinceR | i'm surprised humans haven't gone extinct yet | Jun 20 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | People keep dumping entire seasons of Netflix in HD that were "protected" with Widevine. | Jun 20 15:06 |
| MinceR | with such a lack of sense and self-destructive tendencies and urges | Jun 20 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | Google is pretty terrible really. | Jun 20 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome is one of the most misbehaved pieces of software I've ever seen. | Jun 20 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | It's probably #3 for worst behaved software from a major company. | Jun 20 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | Right behind Internet Explorer and iTunes. | Jun 20 15:07 |
| MinceR | sure, but it's a web browser | Jun 20 15:07 |
| MinceR | a full-featured one at that | Jun 20 15:07 |
| MinceR | all of those are terrible | Jun 20 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The battery usage with Chrome is very bad as well. | Jun 20 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | It causes too many wakeups, which subverts the power management of the OS/hardware. | Jun 20 15:08 |
| MinceR | "modern" webshites have got to have their precious wakeups | Jun 20 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | If you can't go into a deep PC state on a platform like Skylake, you can't get those awesome 10 hours on the battery. | Jun 20 15:08 |
| MinceR | so they can use your computers to mine bitcoins even if they're in the background | Jun 20 15:08 |
| MinceR | you can't get it either | Jun 20 15:08 |
| MinceR | s/either/anyway/ | Jun 20 15:08 |
| MinceR | laptop battery life figures are always lies | Jun 20 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Firefox is pretty easy on the battery, at least as provided by Fedora. | Jun 20 15:08 |
| MinceR | got to save some battery for systemd to waste, eh? | Jun 20 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's worse if you use the Mozilla-provided binary, as is most everything else, including security. | Jun 20 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | Systemd isn't using much. | Jun 20 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | Right now, my system is using about 6 watts. | Jun 20 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | The whole system. | Jun 20 15:09 |
| MinceR | go tell this guy: https://blind.guru/daemon-cpu.html | Jun 20 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blind.guru | I am sorry, but this looks insane | Jun 20 15:10 | |
| MinceR | oh, yeah, also dbus and packagekit | Jun 20 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: | Jun 20 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1463398 | Jun 20 15:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1463398 – Gnome Web can't render the website for the Midori browser. | Jun 20 15:12 | |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1463390 | Jun 20 15:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1463390 – Gnome Web uses an insane amount of power, melts my laptop on sites like Facebook and Youtube. [ http://ur1.ca/r147w ] | Jun 20 15:13 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 20 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1462677 | Jun 20 15:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1462677 – GNOME Web crashes when saving an image from discogs.com. [ http://ur1.ca/r147y ] | Jun 20 15:13 | |
| DaemonFC | I've filed three bugs on it so far. | Jun 20 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 20 15:13 |
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| *schestowitz experiments with qupzilla | Jun 20 15:17 | |
| schestowitz | doesn't work with mastodon | Jun 20 15:22 |
| schestowitz | blank page | Jun 20 15:22 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/dark-magic | Jun 20 15:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Dark Magic | Jun 20 15:23 | |
| schestowitz | hhmmm.... flash just made the browser totally freeze | Jun 20 15:25 |
| schestowitz | no good that.. | Jun 20 15:25 |
| schestowitz | I'll use rekonq for light things | Jun 20 15:26 |
| schestowitz | for now | Jun 20 15:26 |
| schestowitz | until firefox gets its f | Jun 20 15:27 |
| schestowitz | its f* s* together | Jun 20 15:27 |
| schestowitz | it's very annoying | Jun 20 15:27 |
| schestowitz | I wasted so much time on this | Jun 20 15:27 |
| MinceR | justflashthings | Jun 20 15:30 |
| MinceR | firefox is only getting its f* s* increasingly apart | Jun 20 15:30 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/ziUZj | Jun 20 15:35 |
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| schestowitz | test http://imgur.com/gallery/ziUZj | Jun 20 15:44 |
| schestowitz | ok, well... I'm experimenting with less firefox | Jun 20 15:45 |
| schestowitz | I will still need it for some things, but not many | Jun 20 15:45 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/kIhSt | Jun 20 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kitties - Album on Imgur | Jun 20 15:51 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/you-too | Jun 20 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - You Too | Jun 20 16:17 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/q2FtVgV.gifv | Jun 20 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jun 20 16:24 | |
| schestowitz | Another person at EPo has just killed himself | Jun 20 16:26 |
| schestowitz | shi* | Jun 20 16:26 |
| MinceR | can't they just quit? | Jun 20 16:26 |
| MinceR | or even just stop going to work | Jun 20 16:27 |
| schestowitz | not simple | Jun 20 16:27 |
| schestowitz | they relocate the whole family | Jun 20 16:27 |
| MinceR | why? | Jun 20 16:27 |
| schestowitz | He jumped under a train. | Jun 20 16:28 |
| schestowitz | British citizen | Jun 20 16:28 |
| schestowitz | https://imgur.com/gallery/Wvh94 | Jun 20 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Certainly no humdrum here... - Album on Imgur | Jun 20 16:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Mere days after Trump signed papers in...' | Jun 20 16:37 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks for the picks | Jun 20 16:46 |
| schestowitz | I will use them later | Jun 20 16:46 |
| MinceR | np | Jun 20 16:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @equbuntu https://twitter.com/equbuntu/status/877288920853221376 | Jun 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest The Ubuntu Daily! https://t.co/3rzYpmfSb0 | Jun 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines @security_wang | Jun 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @phoronix #ubuntu #security | Jun 20 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The Ubuntu Daily | Jun 20 18:49 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/epsilon http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1495978247-20170528after.png | Jun 20 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Epsilon | Jun 20 19:13 | |
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| cubexyz | ><schestowitz> I'm furious at Firefox | Jun 20 20:18 |
| cubexyz | <schestowitz> takes like a gig or more of RAM sometimes | Jun 20 20:18 |
| cubexyz | ha | Jun 20 20:18 |
| cubexyz | actually I'm using ff 16 still on one box | Jun 20 20:18 |
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| cubexyz | 512 megs of ram | Jun 20 20:19 |
| cubexyz | on FC1 I use icecat-2.0.0.11-g1 | Jun 20 20:19 |
| cubexyz | but only rarely | Jun 20 20:19 |
| cubexyz | it may have been possible to update icecat using gtk1 | Jun 20 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/877321858147729411 | Jun 20 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve | Jun 20 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @AlejosAngel Raspberry Pi 3 Boot Support https://t.co/EJd2EZCOuD | Jun 20 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix #netbsd #raspi | Jun 20 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 20 20:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve Raspberry Pi 3 Boot Support | Tux Machines | Jun 20 20:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877321965144375296 | Jun 20 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | My Ubuntu for mobile devices post mortem analysis | Jun 20 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YIgH8Xaw7K (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 20 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 20 20:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My Ubuntu for mobile devices post mortem analysis | Tux Machines | Jun 20 20:31 | |
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| cubexyz | ff 16 just seems more efficient | Jun 20 20:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #OnePlus 5 review—The best sub-$500 phone you can buy | Jun 20 20:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NNMraXCVwA (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 20 20:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 20 20:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 20 20:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OnePlus 5 review—The best sub-$500 phone you can buy | Tux Machines | Jun 20 20:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Tips on Scaling Open Source in the Cloud | Jun 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/O3gGuTrRJM (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #server | Jun 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 20 20:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tips on Scaling Open Source in the Cloud | Tux Machines | Jun 20 20:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 20 20:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 20 20:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 20 20:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based on Bodhi | Tux Machines | Jun 20 20:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please | Jun 20 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/haRGmpXrjs (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 20 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hardware #rapsi | Jun 20 20:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please | Tux Machines | Jun 20 20:52 | |
| DaemonFC | I figured out the insane power draw and CPU usage in Gnome Web. | Jun 20 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora doesn't install gstreamer's va-api by default and intel-va is in RPM Fusion. | Jun 20 20:53 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please...' | Jun 20 20:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/z6tibZd3Re (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #gnu | Jun 20 21:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hardware | Jun 20 21:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/azuW5STE7x (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 20 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #sony | Jun 20 21:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | This is the latest phone from the company Android fans | Jun 20 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | can't get enough of https://t.co/E6vyTdl9bV | Jun 20 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #oneplus #android #linux | Jun 20 21:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This is the latest phone from the company Android fans can't get enough of | Tux Machines | Jun 20 21:05 | |
| DaemonFC | https://nystocknews.com/2017/06/20/target-price-for-red-hat-inc-rht-now-above-close-for-monday/ | Jun 20 21:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nystocknews.com | Target Price for Red Hat, Inc. (RHT) now above close for Monday | NY Stock News | Jun 20 21:13 | |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat is way bigger than Novel l was. | Jun 20 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | The Novell deal with Microsoft smacked of desperation from the beginning. | Jun 20 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz: What's the deal with suse these days? | Jun 20 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | Is it still to be avoided? | Jun 20 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | Or did it land somewhere where it's okay to recommend again? | Jun 20 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877331498260721664 | Jun 20 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/uGl9NjZBxS | Jun 20 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #oneplus | Jun 20 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kodak | Jun 20 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 21:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | Red Hat wasn't ever really pushing Mono. Fedora had/has it but it's not a default package. | Jun 20 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | They heavily promote Java. | Jun 20 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the people in Gnome were in a position to push Mono though, and they tried. | Jun 20 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | They were actually pretty pissed about Tomboy being ported to C++. | Jun 20 21:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877334064914616321 | Jun 20 21:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 20/6/2017: Chuwi Lapbook, Linux 4.12 RC6, Mesa | Jun 20 21:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz 17.1.3 https://t.co/pVZIKo4ohT (techrights.org) | Jun 20 21:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/6/2017: Chuwi Lapbook, Linux 4.12 RC6, Mesa 17.1.3 | Techrights | Jun 20 21:17 | |
| DaemonFC | I think the author of Tomboy wrote a whole blog post complaining about Gnote. | Jun 20 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | I commented that you don't get to release something as open source and then complain when people do something with it. | Jun 20 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877334619275841536 | Jun 20 21:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by My Ubuntu for mobile devices post mortem analysis | Jun 20 21:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/YIgH8Xaw7K (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 20 21:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 20 21:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My Ubuntu for mobile devices post mortem analysis | Tux Machines | Jun 20 21:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877335292390146053 | Jun 20 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release of #OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 https://t.co/PtxwGk9t3v | Jun 20 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #Mandriva #gnu #linux | Jun 20 21:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 | Tux Machines | Jun 20 21:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877335682708099072 | Jun 20 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #OnePlus 5 review—The best sub-$500 phone you can buy | Jun 20 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/NNMraXCVwA (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 20 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 20 21:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877336700053319680 | Jun 20 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tips on Scaling Open Source in the Cloud | Jun 20 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/O3gGuTrRJM (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 20 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #server | Jun 20 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 20 21:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OnePlus 5 review—The best sub-$500 phone you can buy | Tux Machines | Jun 20 21:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tips on Scaling Open Source in the Cloud | Tux Machines | Jun 20 21:27 | |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-WS-Update-NV-WL-Qt | Jun 20 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Continues Working On Better NVIDIA Support, PipeWire Could Replace PulseAudio - Phoronix | Jun 20 21:27 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Fedora could replace Pulseaudio. | Jun 20 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they would. They got Pulseaudio working after years of agony, so of course there's something new. | Jun 20 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | So this thing is supposed to replace Pulseaudio *and* Jack. | Jun 20 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Well good luck with that. | Jun 20 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2017/06/20/fedora-workstation-26-and-beyond/ | Jun 20 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Fedora Workstation 26 and beyond | Christian Schaller [ http://ur1.ca/r164i ] | Jun 20 21:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Fedora 26 is pretty good. | Jun 20 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | He's right that the industry is moving to open codecs while the widely used encumbered codec patents are expiring. | Jun 20 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | Fool me once, shame on you, and all that. | Jun 20 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877336716431941634 | Jun 20 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 20 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 20 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 20 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 20 21:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based on Bodhi | Tux Machines | Jun 20 21:36 | |
| DaemonFC | MP3 is dated, but it's not a horrible format. | Jun 20 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877339330875977728 | Jun 20 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please | Jun 20 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/haRGmpXrjs (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 20 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hardware #rapsi | Jun 20 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 20 21:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please | Tux Machines | Jun 20 21:36 | |
| DaemonFC | LAME has advanced the technology far beyond what proprietary software ever would have. | Jun 20 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | "QtGNOME platform | Jun 20 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | We will have a new version of the QtGNOME platform in Fedora 26. For those of you who have not yet heard of this effort it is a set of themes and tools to ensure that Qt applications runs without any major issues under GNOME 3. With the new version the theming expands to include the accessibility and dark themes in Adwaita, meaning that if you switch to one of these themes under GNOME shell it will also switch your Qt applications ov | Jun 20 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | er. We are also making sure things like cut’n paste and drag and drop works well. The version in Fedora Workstation 26 is a big step forward for this effort and should hopefully make Qt applications be first class citizens under your Fedora Workstation desktop." | Jun 20 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | Nice. | Jun 20 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz: That's what I was talking about earlier. | Jun 20 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | So Qt and KDE apps fit in better on a Gnome desktop. | Jun 20 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877339350039769088 | Jun 20 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Latest quad-core #BananaPi offers SATA support for $32 | Jun 20 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/z6tibZd3Re (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #gnu | Jun 20 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hardware | Jun 20 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 20 21:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest quad-core Banana Pi offers SATA support for $32 | Tux Machines | Jun 20 21:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @WhiteHouse @VP Did your buddy Vlad approve...' | Jun 20 21:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @WhiteHouse @VP https://t.co/cbdmEBbtwL' | Jun 20 21:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @WhiteHouse @VP https://t.co/cbdmEBbtwL | Jun 20 21:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @WhiteHouse @VP https://t.co/cbdmEBbtwL' | Jun 20 21:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877341983261544448 | Jun 20 21:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Sony Xperia Touch Android projector Review | Jun 20 21:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/azuW5STE7x (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 20 21:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #sony | Jun 20 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sony Xperia Touch Android projector Review | Tux Machines | Jun 20 21:47 | |
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| r_schestowitz | [02:15] <DaemonFC> r_schestowitz: What's the deal with suse these days? | Jun 20 21:50 |
| r_schestowitz | it's almost irrelevant | Jun 20 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | I have a friend on Facebook that says he likes openSUSE Tumbleweed. | Jun 20 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | The system management tools on Fedora have gotten a lot better than they used to be. | Jun 20 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | Like, Yum used to make you install a plugin that detected orphan packages and then you had to add a switch to remove them and sometimes it was wrong and broke something. | Jun 20 21:51 |
| r_schestowitz | they barely even keep up their blogs about suse | Jun 20 21:52 |
| r_schestowitz | abandoned most of them... | Jun 20 21:52 |
| r_schestowitz | "I don't think you should necessarily publish that information on your blog (there is a family left behind), but an examiner committed suicide yesterday in Munich. A British citizen like you, actually. He jumped under a train." | Jun 20 21:57 |
| r_schestowitz | Do most people already know? I don't want to play a "tally" game like a politician. Does the management know? The Line Manager? | Jun 20 21:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877341997798793221 | Jun 20 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by This is the latest phone from the company Android fans | Jun 20 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz can't get enough of https://t.co/E6vyTdl9bV | Jun 20 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #oneplus #android #linux | Jun 20 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 20 22:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This is the latest phone from the company Android fans can't get enough of | Tux Machines | Jun 20 22:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877347539263082497 | Jun 20 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/uGl9NjZBxS | Jun 20 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #oneplus | Jun 20 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kodak | Jun 20 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 22:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/12/15/162 | Jun 20 23:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner: [tip:x86/timers] x86/tsc: Force TSC_ADJUST register to value >= zero | Jun 20 23:10 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, LolNo!Vo has this bug too. | Jun 20 23:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877347552752001024 | Jun 20 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Release of #OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 https://t.co/PtxwGk9t3v | Jun 20 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #Mandriva #gnu #linux | Jun 20 23:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 | Tux Machines | Jun 20 23:14 | |
| DaemonFC | http://linux-kernel.2935.n7.nabble.com/Linux-2-6-29-td440085i20.html | Jun 20 23:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux-kernel.2935.n7.nabble.com | Linux Kernel - Linux 2.6.29 | Page 2 | Jun 20 23:17 | |
| DaemonFC | "I never understood how anybody doing filesystems (especially ones that | Jun 20 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | claim to be crash-resistant due to journalling) would _ever_ accept the | Jun 20 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | "writeback" behavior of having "clean fsck, but data loss". " - Linus Torvalds | Jun 20 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jun 20 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Isn't that the same fix? ext4 just defaults to the crappy "writeback" | Jun 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | behavior, which is insane. | Jun 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | Sure, it makes things _much_ smoother, since now the actual data is no | Jun 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | longer in the critical path for any journal writes, but anybody who thinks | Jun 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | that's a solution is just incompetent. | Jun 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | We might as well go back to ext2 then. If your data gets written out long | Jun 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | after the metadata hit the disk, you are going to hit all kinds of bad | Jun 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | issues if the machine ever goes down. " | Jun 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | That was what Ext4 was doing before 2.6.29. | Jun 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | I actually lost some files to that during a system crash. | Jun 20 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | But that's a separate issue from vm.writeback. | Jun 20 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | Ted T'so wrote, "I have 4 gigs of memory on my laptop, and I've never seen it these | Jun 20 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | sorts of issues. So maybe filesystem hackers don't have enough | Jun 20 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | memory; or we don't use the right workloads? It would help if I | Jun 20 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | understood how to trigger these disaster cases. I've had to work | Jun 20 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | *really* hard (as in dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/dirty-me-harder) in order | Jun 20 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | to get even a 30 second fsync() delay. So understanding what sort of | Jun 20 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | things you do that cause that many files data blocks to be dirtied, | Jun 20 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | and/or what is causing a major read workload, would be useful. | Jun 20 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | It may be that we just need to tune the VM to be much more aggressive | Jun 20 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | about pushing dirty pages to the disk sooner. Understanding how the | Jun 20 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | dynamics are working would be the first step. " | Jun 20 23:22 |
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| DaemonFC | One of the things that powertop recommends is increasing the vm.writeback delay to improve battery life. | Jun 20 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | It risks your data though, but it's the default in the "just tune everything for me" defaults. | Jun 20 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | The longer the writeback delay is, the more data is at risk. | Jun 20 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's not JFS bad, even with the delay that powertop sets. | Jun 20 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | JFS can push the writeback out indefinitely, until an external event triggers one. | Jun 20 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | So you could go hours or even longer. | Jun 20 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | I think that powertop just pushes it out from 5 seconds to 30. | Jun 20 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | You really don't want to use JFS. | Jun 20 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | I can't imagine why it has any users. | Jun 20 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | JFS is really not actively developed like XFS is. | Jun 20 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | I still see XFS developers fixing some bizarre/rare/hard to trigger bugs now and then. | Jun 20 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz: After Greg KH pushed out that tiny 4.11.6 update, he went back to queuing. The 4.11.7 patch set is sitting at 75 patches right now. :P | Jun 20 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | It takes a long time for a kernel to actually settle after it's released. The patches never end, not really. | Jun 20 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | Even after 100 minor versions, it's common to see 50-60 patches in the next update. | Jun 20 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | You could keep fixing things forever and there would be more bugs. | Jun 20 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 has turned into beta quality garbage, even by Microsoft standards. | Jun 20 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | They FORCE update you to a new release that's totally broken and make you test it out before their important customers have to install it. | Jun 20 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | Part of the whole "free" thing. The other being your personal data, down to the keystrones. | Jun 20 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | *keystrokes. | Jun 20 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan FarmerJust now · Chicago · Fedora has a list of Forbidden items and a list of suggestions for what to do instead, but the real answer (cheat sheet) almost always involves installing something from RPM Fusion. I was a little stunned to see that Gnome Web stuttered and made my computer red hot and nearly unresponsive while playing videos and doing some other things without the magic combo of intel-va-driver from RPM Fusion, | Jun 20 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | the codecs from RPM Fusion, and the Gstreamer VA API plugin from Fedora. I had the codecs and the intel-va-driver, but had overlooked the Gstreamer VA API plugin. Doh!Fedora can't recommend RPM Fusion even though almost everyone knows about it, because recommending it would open them up to a lawsuit from a patent holder. ("Well, you may not be shipping this thing we have a patent on, but you're telling people where to get it!").The | Jun 20 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | US legal system is hopelessly fucked. The patent office even once gave a patent to a lawyer for a "method of exercising a cat with a laser pointer" when he was trying to show his son how easy it was to abuse the patent system in the US. | Jun 20 23:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Release of #OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 https://t.co/PtxwGk9t3v #Mandriva #gnu...' | Jun 21 00:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited 'Latest quad-core #BananaPi offers SATA support for $32...' | Jun 21 00:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 00:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited 'Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please...' | Jun 21 00:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based...' | Jun 21 00:00 | |
| DaemonFC | I've been learning to like Pidgin as an IRC client. | Jun 21 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's not horrible with the IRC plugins in the plugins package. | Jun 21 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | It is kind of weird having IRC chatrooms in the same window as Facebook Messenger chats though, and there's no server tab so it makes it a little hard to see what servers you're using. | Jun 21 00:29 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Jun 21 00:53 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: btw it's not necessary to part all channels before quitting :> | Jun 21 00:54 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't. | Jun 21 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | I think it might be doing that on its own. | Jun 21 01:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited 'My Ubuntu for mobile devices post mortem analysis...' | Jun 21 01:27 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/6Ao2TQY.gifv | Jun 21 01:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jun 21 01:32 | |
| MinceR | it's also doing it wrong | Jun 21 01:32 |
| MinceR | your quit message includes a couple of raw part commands together | Jun 21 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | Let's try something. | Jun 21 01:55 |
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| DaaemonFC | Oh crap. | Jun 21 01:57 |
| DaaemonFC | Well, that's not good. | Jun 21 01:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @equbuntu https://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/877397487992143872 | Jun 21 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by The latest The Ubuntu Daily! https://t.co/3rzYpmfSb0 | Jun 21 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines @security_wang | Jun 21 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @phoronix #ubuntu #security | Jun 21 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The Ubuntu Daily | Jun 21 02:03 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mrt1n3z/status/877406123921469440 | Jun 21 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mrt1n3z: Y was tambien y face https://t.co/uN4mL3NQ08 | Jun 21 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #bbc 'ad' for #whatsapp which has back doors https://t.co/33wL7Su9Q0 #facebook #encryption is a mirage | Jun 21 02:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877406423541579776 | Jun 21 02:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #Cossacks3, #SeriousSam, #Sombrero Spaghetti | Jun 21 02:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Western Mayhem, #HITMAN, and #RocketLeague | Jun 21 02:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GzYlaUuxX0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 21 02:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Cossacks 3, Serious Sam, Sombrero: Spaghetti Western Mayhem, HITMAN, and Rocket League | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:06 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/XPzd3Fm.gif | Jun 21 02:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877407282925113344 | Jun 21 02:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Shotwell 0.27.0 | Jun 21 02:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EVRaLqjEbZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome | Jun 21 02:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 21 02:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shotwell 0.27.0 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:16 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/I0xU4 | Jun 21 02:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It'll be fine - Album on Imgur | Jun 21 02:19 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9491324 | Jun 21 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "This article was sponsored by Microsoft and written by Linux.com." https://www.linux.com/blog/event/lc3-china/2017/6/innovating-open-source-microsofts-story #microsoft pays @linuxfoundation for puff piece | Jun 21 02:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Innovating With Open Source: Microsoft’s Story | Linux.com | The source for Linux information [ http://ur1.ca/r17gr ] | Jun 21 02:27 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lennart-casync | Jun 21 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lennart Poettering Announces New Project: casync - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r17ih ] | Jun 21 02:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Games: #Cossacks3, #SeriousSam, #Sombrero Spaghetti | Jun 21 02:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Western Mayhem, #HITMAN, and #RocketLeague | Jun 21 02:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GzYlaUuxX0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 21 02:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/EVRaLqjEbZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome | Jun 21 02:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 21 02:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877420399197392896 | Jun 21 03:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 21 03:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gkHejdnTHX (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix | Jun 21 03:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 21 03:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 21 03:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877421180214534144 | Jun 21 03:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu: Accelerated Video Playback, #Netplan By Default, | Jun 21 03:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux 4.13 | Jun 21 03:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KLiDIO0taP (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 21 03:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #canonical #gnu #linux | Jun 21 03:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: Accelerated Video Playback, Netplan By Default, Linux 4.13 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 03:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/gkHejdnTHX #unix #linux #gnu...' | Jun 21 03:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu: Accelerated Video Playback, #Netplan By Default, #Linux...' | Jun 21 03:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cybershellsec retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu: Accelerated Video Playback, #Netplan By Default, #Linux...' | Jun 21 03:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877431892877901824 | Jun 21 03:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat Profit Climbs 10% | Jun 21 03:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/w2rzLiFza9 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 21 03:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #jboss #freesw | Jun 21 03:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Profit Climbs 10% | Tux Machines | Jun 21 03:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877432566982336512 | Jun 21 03:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Partnerships and Training, AWS Alliance, and New | Jun 21 03:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Interview | Jun 21 03:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Wahuvp0GuP (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 21 03:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #aws #gnu #linux | Jun 21 03:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Partnerships and Training, AWS Alliance, and New Interview | Tux Machines | Jun 21 03:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Profit Climbs 10% https://t.co/w2rzLiFza9 #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 03:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat Partnerships and Training, AWS Alliance, and...' | Jun 21 03:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RmTux retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Profit Climbs 10% https://t.co/w2rzLiFza9 #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 03:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Profit Climbs 10% https://t.co/w2rzLiFza9 #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 03:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877435395780354049 | Jun 21 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KTechLab Revived | Jun 21 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/X4XkMnnU3u (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #gnu | Jun 21 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 21 03:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KTechLab Revived | Tux Machines | Jun 21 03:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877435767966113792 | Jun 21 04:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #NSA on #Github Now | Jun 21 04:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OwuWpRv5uc (www.tuxmachines.org) #security | Jun 21 04:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NSA on Github Now | Tux Machines | Jun 21 04:01 | |
| XRevan86 | > #rekonq works with neither #mastodon nor #diaspora and #qupzilla works OK with #diaspora and even #twitter - not too bad. | Jun 21 04:02 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: There's a reason for that: rekonq is QWebKit based, QupZilla migrated to QWebEngine recently (Blink). | Jun 21 04:03 |
| XRevan86 | I guess nobody tests stuff in WebKit anymore :). | Jun 21 04:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877436196942749696 | Jun 21 04:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security: new updates, new flaws, and #SELinux | Jun 21 04:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZDe5AVaWG4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 04:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freeswwwwww | Jun 21 04:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: new updates, new flaws, and SELinux | Tux Machines | Jun 21 04:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KTechLab Revived https://t.co/X4XkMnnU3u #kde #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 04:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#NSA on #Github Now https://t.co/OwuWpRv5uc #security...' | Jun 21 04:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: new updates, new flaws, and #SELinux ...' | Jun 21 04:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StayBeauti_ful retweeted @tuxmachines: '#NSA on #Github Now https://t.co/OwuWpRv5uc #security...' | Jun 21 04:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877437979823943681 | Jun 21 04:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora 26 Plans, #CDK 3.0 on Fedora 25, and #Bodhi 2.8.0 | Jun 21 04:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aemYH2nGZT (www.tuxmachines.org) #f25 #f26 | Jun 21 04:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 21 04:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 26 Plans, CDK 3.0 on Fedora 25, and Bodhi 2.8.0 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 04:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877438501540724736 | Jun 21 04:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS: Opus 1.2, #GraphQL, #casync, #Tensor2Tensor and More | Jun 21 04:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OnLmPVg4qB (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 04:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS: Opus 1.2, GraphQL, casync, Tensor2Tensor and More | Tux Machines | Jun 21 04:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877439526918119428 | Jun 21 04:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft #Openwashing by the Linux Foundation, Lockin | Jun 21 04:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Model, and More Openwashing With the @LinuxFoundation | Jun 21 04:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dzKwCEFNUa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 04:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Openwashing by the Linux Foundation, Lockin Model, and More Openwashing With the Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Jun 21 04:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fedora 26 Plans, #CDK 3.0 on Fedora 25,...' | Jun 21 04:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'OSS: Opus 1.2, #GraphQL, #casync, #Tensor2Tensor and More...' | Jun 21 04:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877439644215934976 | Jun 21 04:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Microsoft #Openwashing by the Linux Foundation, Lockin | Jun 21 04:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Model, and More Openwashing With the @LinuxFoundation | Jun 21 04:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dzKwCEFNUa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 04:32 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based...' | Jun 21 04:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ScapholdDotIO favourited 'OSS: Opus 1.2, #GraphQL, #casync, #Tensor2Tensor and More...' | Jun 21 04:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based...' | Jun 21 04:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @IainIsCreative favourited '#NSA on #Github Now https://t.co/OwuWpRv5uc #security...' | Jun 21 04:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NSA on Github Now | Tux Machines | Jun 21 04:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ebijun favourited 'NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve...' | Jun 21 05:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877452793577078785 | Jun 21 05:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why aren't more researchers using open source? | Jun 21 05:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EQfDlTutTD (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 05:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #research #science | Jun 21 05:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 05:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why aren't more researchers using open source? | Tux Machines | Jun 21 05:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877452976599728128 | Jun 21 05:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Using #Kdump for examining #Linux #Kernel crashes | Jun 21 05:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/H1sJkn1ZBV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 05:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Using Kdump for examining Linux Kernel crashes | Tux Machines | Jun 21 05:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why aren't more researchers using open source? https://t.co/EQfDlTutTD...' | Jun 21 05:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | XRevan86: thanks for the tip | Jun 21 05:13 |
| XRevan86 | r_schestowitz: :) | Jun 21 05:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877453479840710656 | Jun 21 06:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Using #Kdump for examining #Linux #Kernel crashes | Jun 21 06:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/H1sJkn1ZBV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 06:05 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited 'ROSA R9 Linux OS Now Shipping with a...' | Jun 21 06:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/technologytales/status/877468092087107584 | Jun 21 06:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 21 06:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @technologytales Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 21 06:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 21 06:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based on Bodhi | Tux Machines | Jun 21 06:08 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i don't trust poettering's crap | Jun 21 06:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/iamunnip/status/877502712241283072 | Jun 21 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 21 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iamunnip Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 21 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 21 08:26 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: I guess you have already seen this https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo | Jun 21 08:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - dspinellis/unix-history-repo: Continuous Unix commit history from 1970 until today [ http://ur1.ca/r19jv ] | Jun 21 08:52 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 21 09:29 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 21 09:29 |
| razielle_tzu | 'sup? | Jun 21 09:37 |
| schestowitz | yo | Jun 21 09:39 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: got an annoying meeting coming up! | Jun 21 09:50 |
| sebsebseb | here | Jun 21 09:50 |
| sebsebseb | then tommrowo should be good :d | Jun 21 09:51 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: going to have to kick dogs out of other room before that ! | Jun 21 09:51 |
| sebsebseb | or try to hmm | Jun 21 09:51 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: computer support tommorow, and public speaking :D | Jun 21 09:53 |
| razielle_tzu | fair | Jun 21 09:53 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CrashPlanSlow favourited 'Software: Journal Apps, #GNU #Automake, #Weblate, #Gammu, and...' | Jun 21 09:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StayBeauti_ful favourited '#Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based...' | Jun 21 09:53 | |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: thats lots of WIndows stuff :D oh yeah | Jun 21 09:54 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: 10 pound an hour | Jun 21 09:54 |
| sebsebseb | I should make quite a lot tommorow :D | Jun 21 09:54 |
| sebsebseb | its Windows after all ! | Jun 21 09:54 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: hi | Jun 21 09:54 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: hi | Jun 21 09:54 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: That's the best Windows feature, yeah. | Jun 21 09:55 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yep nice and slow :d | Jun 21 09:55 |
| sebsebseb | yes mamybe I aam wrong and can aactsaully make enough money doing windows system admin home sjupport small bsuiness etc hmm | Jun 21 09:56 |
| sebsebseb | he h h eh | Jun 21 09:56 |
| sebsebseb | but really I am doing Linuxey stuff tomrowow | Jun 21 09:56 |
| sebsebseb | with a woman from my lug | Jun 21 09:56 |
| sebsebseb | back to Linux after 8 years | Jun 21 09:56 |
| *XRevan86 is confused now :). | Jun 21 09:56 | |
| sebsebseb | invited her to my other group as well so hopefuly comes :) | Jun 21 09:56 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: I am doing Linux support tommorwo for real not Windows | Jun 21 09:56 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: And what's with 8 years? | Jun 21 09:56 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: she hasn't been using desktop linux for 8 years | Jun 21 09:57 |
| XRevan86 | You haven't used Linux in 8 years? | Jun 21 09:57 |
| sebsebseb | no her | Jun 21 09:57 |
| XRevan86 | oh, she hasn't | Jun 21 09:57 |
| sebsebseb | the woman | Jun 21 09:57 |
| sebsebseb | shes back recnetly using it | Jun 21 09:57 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: You can tell her that a random dude from Russia approved her choice :). | Jun 21 09:57 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: shes scared to re install ubuntu | Jun 21 09:57 |
| sebsebseb | despite having a seprate /home | Jun 21 09:58 |
| sebsebseb | and worried about slogin some things | Jun 21 09:58 |
| sebsebseb | so going to put another ubuntu install on tomrowo as well probably | Jun 21 09:58 |
| sebsebseb | seems she already has a seprate /home as well, some guy in a shop set her up | Jun 21 09:58 |
| sebsebseb | yep dual booting ubuntu :d same distro same version | Jun 21 09:58 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: When I did reinstalling, I got the old distro stacked in a directory. | Jun 21 09:59 |
| XRevan86 | so that I could get stuff from it using chroot | Jun 21 09:59 |
| XRevan86 | and then easily "rm -rf" it when enough time passed | Jun 21 09:59 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yeah but will keep it | Jun 21 10:00 |
| sebsebseb | she has some custom set up etc | Jun 21 10:01 |
| sebsebseb | taht doens't want toj ust lose | Jun 21 10:01 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Also, why reinstalling? | Jun 21 10:01 |
| sebsebseb | will take her time to set up | Jun 21 10:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/StayBeauti_ful/status/877524964185952256 | Jun 21 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 21 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @StayBeauti_ful Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 21 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 21 10:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based on Bodhi | Tux Machines | Jun 21 10:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877529752646688768 | Jun 21 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat is Breaking Records | Jun 21 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5DDvAlszpt (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 21 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #rht | Jun 21 10:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat is Breaking Records | Tux Machines | Jun 21 10:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat is Breaking Records https://t.co/5DDvAlszpt #redhat #rht...' | Jun 21 10:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Amandajeyanam favourited 'Red Hat is Breaking Records https://t.co/5DDvAlszpt #redhat #rht...' | Jun 21 10:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877532157173956608 | Jun 21 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Devuan and #Debian Updates | Jun 21 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #systemd | Jun 21 10:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan and Debian Updates | Tux Machines | Jun 21 10:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Devuan and #Debian Updates https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 10:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden This reaffirms the view that people must...' | Jun 21 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877535051315113984 | Jun 21 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics News: Intel KVMGT/XenGT GVT-g, Radeon Instinct | Jun 21 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Accelerator, Intel Graphics Driver Updates For #Linux | Jun 21 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.13 | Jun 21 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iQ0TXl5MLS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics News: Intel KVMGT/XenGT GVT-g, Radeon Instinct Accelerator, Intel Graphics Driver Updates For Linux 4.13 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 10:35 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics News: Intel KVMGT/XenGT GVT-g, Radeon Instinct Accelerator,...' | Jun 21 10:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/877538388890591235 | Jun 21 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Graphics News: Intel KVMGT/XenGT GVT-g, Radeon Instinct | Jun 21 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 Accelerator, Intel Graphics Driver Updates For #Linux | Jun 21 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.13 | Jun 21 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iQ0TXl5MLS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 10:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877538636539015170 | Jun 21 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform | Jun 21 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games (Proprietary) | Jun 21 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rYDzXQvY38 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 21 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming #gnu #linux | Jun 21 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 10:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AllDayIndieDev retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform...' | Jun 21 10:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform Games (Proprietary) | Tux Machines | Jun 21 10:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AllDayIndieDev favourited 'Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform...' | Jun 21 10:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/877539064563585026 | Jun 21 10:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Devuan and #Debian Updates | Jun 21 10:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 10:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #systemd | Jun 21 10:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan and Debian Updates | Tux Machines | Jun 21 10:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform...' | Jun 21 10:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StephenLSims retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform...' | Jun 21 10:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877540677533532160 | Jun 21 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux on Devices: #Linaro, #RaspberryPi, #Joule, | Jun 21 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Edison, and #Galileo | Jun 21 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mfWcQTsdz4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi #gnu | Jun 21 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #intel | Jun 21 10:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux on Devices: Linaro, Raspberry Pi, Joule, Edison, and Galileo | Tux Machines | Jun 21 10:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @calcaware retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux on Devices: #Linaro, #RaspberryPi, #Joule, #Edison, and...' | Jun 21 10:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/877542768578629633 | Jun 21 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Devuan and #Debian Updates | Jun 21 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #systemd | Jun 21 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@MacCocktail @Snowden It's about control. If they cannot...' | Jun 21 11:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877548984260329473 | Jun 21 11:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE News: #Calamares, #FOSSASIA, #DigiKam, Curves, | Jun 21 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KRuler, and More | Jun 21 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DTGZNqAvYD (www.tuxmachines.org) #plasma | Jun 21 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 21 11:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE News: #Calamares, #FOSSASIA, #DigiKam, Curves, | Jun 21 11:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #KRuler, and More | Jun 21 11:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DTGZNqAvYD (www.tuxmachines.org) #plasma | Jun 21 11:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 21 11:46 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may Labour got nearly as many votes...' | Jun 21 11:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877554194387017729 | Jun 21 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Univention Corporate Server 4.2-1 | Jun 21 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0APUX4huK3 (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian | Jun 21 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #ucs | Jun 21 11:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Univention Corporate Server 4.2-1 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 11:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877555240308019200 | Jun 21 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mozilla News: #Firefox Focus for #Android, $2 Million | Jun 21 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Prize to Decentralize, and #AdBlocking | Jun 21 11:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 11:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla News: Firefox Focus for Android, $2 Million Prize to Decentralize, and Ad Blocking | Tux Machines | Jun 21 11:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Univention Corporate Server 4.2-1 https://t.co/0APUX4huK3 #debian #gnu...' | Jun 21 11:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877556162878689281 | Jun 21 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 21 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8V8UbEF6Dm (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 21 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #linux | Jun 21 12:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 21 12:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Mozilla News: #Firefox Focus for #Android, $2 Million...' | Jun 21 12:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/8V8UbEF6Dm #howto #unix #linux...' | Jun 21 12:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/877557990643159041 | Jun 21 12:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE News: #Calamares, #FOSSASIA, #DigiKam, Curves, | Jun 21 12:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec #KRuler, and More | Jun 21 12:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DTGZNqAvYD (www.tuxmachines.org) #plasma | Jun 21 12:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 21 12:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877558842086879232 | Jun 21 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Programming: #GCC and #Java | Jun 21 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JMsA5yjZKn (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 21 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #compiler | Jun 21 12:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming: GCC and Java | Tux Machines | Jun 21 12:10 | |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/DXqPE1x | Jun 21 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chaos - Imgur | Jun 21 12:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Programming: #GCC and #Java https://t.co/JMsA5yjZKn #gnu #compiler...' | Jun 21 12:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877561301723209728 | Jun 21 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security: #StackClash and #WannaCry | Jun 21 12:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Stack Clash and WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 21 12:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @SecurityNews6 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #StackClash and #WannaCry https://t.co/EVlRGUvSX8 #security...' | Jun 21 12:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877562169289822208 | Jun 21 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: #OpenStack and #Containers, #MongoDB World 2017 | Jun 21 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Jm26Tcopeb (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 12:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: OpenStack and Containers, MongoDB World 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 12:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877562493089927172 | Jun 21 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers | Jun 21 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KuTsRyQ2gv (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 12:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 12:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877562892987416577 | Jun 21 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian and #Ubuntu Leftovers | Jun 21 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pK6nIV5nnL (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 12:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 12:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877563428675694592 | Jun 21 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Leftovers and #GNOME | Jun 21 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/w8a7MzMWBG (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 12:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software Leftovers and GNOME | Tux Machines | Jun 21 12:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877563755021860866 | Jun 21 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers Leftovers | Jun 21 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gCn7DDmmMJ (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hpc #gnu #linux | Jun 21 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 12:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 12:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877563989235871744 | Jun 21 12:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers | Jun 21 12:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TlY0lS9YMf (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 12:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 12:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877564549934718977 | Jun 21 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 21/6/2017: Red Hat's Numbers Are Up, New Debian | Jun 21 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Being Studied https://t.co/GYKhS0WeRd (techrights.org) | Jun 21 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 13:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/6/2017: Red Hat’s Numbers Are Up, New Debian Being Studied | Techrights | Jun 21 13:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange You know who owns The Times, right?...' | Jun 21 14:10 | |
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| MinceR | http://random.cat/i/ZHOEq.jpg | Jun 21 14:57 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange This too might not bee enough given...' | Jun 21 15:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @NSAGov @CIA @FBI Sometimes they do this...' | Jun 21 15:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn When it breaks down for May and...' | Jun 21 15:27 | |
| MinceR | apparently qupzilla 2.0.0 uses QtWebEngine, which is based on Blink | Jun 21 15:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yeah, it does. | Jun 21 15:41 |
| schestowitz | just checked their blog | Jun 21 15:41 |
| schestowitz | a moment ago | Jun 21 15:41 |
| schestowitz | last release in March | Jun 21 15:41 |
| schestowitz | I am trying to get my head around it | Jun 21 15:41 |
| schestowitz | there are some things that don't work too well | Jun 21 15:41 |
| schestowitz | Asa wrote to me today | Jun 21 15:42 |
| schestowitz | to offer help with Firefox | Jun 21 15:42 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: QupZilla does get new commits and stuff. | Jun 21 15:42 |
| schestowitz | it works OK for most things | Jun 21 15:42 |
| schestowitz | I still use Firefox only for a few things | Jun 21 15:42 |
| schestowitz | and it make a mess with RAM if I start it | Jun 21 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | It eats 1.5G for me right now, out of 8G | Jun 21 15:43 |
| schestowitz | how many tabs? | Jun 21 15:43 |
| schestowitz | and how much of this RAM is in the heap? | Jun 21 15:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: 39 tabs | Jun 21 15:44 |
| XRevan86 | 922.00 MB ── heap-mapped | 705.68 MB ── heap-allocated | Jun 21 15:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: that? | Jun 21 15:45 |
| schestowitz | so less than a gig | Jun 21 15:45 |
| schestowitz | or 24mb per tab | Jun 21 15:45 |
| XRevan86 | > or 24mb per tab | Jun 21 15:46 |
| XRevan86 | I don't have multiprocessing enabled | Jun 21 15:46 |
| XRevan86 | too many addons :) | Jun 21 15:46 |
| schestowitz | firefox started crashing on me | Jun 21 15:46 |
| schestowitz | almost at random | Jun 21 15:46 |
| schestowitz | so I wanted multi-process | Jun 21 15:46 |
| schestowitz | the whole thing is a mess | Jun 21 15:46 |
| XRevan86 | Things work fine by me, really. | Jun 21 15:47 |
| XRevan86 | At least in this point in time. I dread the removal of XUL. | Jun 21 15:48 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/BRP4Dmy | Jun 21 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Discovered I've still got a nest of cats infecting my bed. I'll re-treat the area again this week. - GIF on Imgur | Jun 21 15:54 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: wow, ears.... | Jun 21 16:04 |
| schestowitz | US power socket | Jun 21 16:04 |
| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/gallery/B4P25 | Jun 21 16:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I think the Queen just trolled our prime-minister today over brexit - Album on Imgur | Jun 21 16:05 | |
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| MinceR | :) | Jun 21 16:06 |
| XRevan86 | Someone just posted an imgur link in a different chat. I opened it and it showed 404. Again. What the fudge… | Jun 21 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | It's the second imgur link that shows me 404 in Firefox. | Jun 21 16:31 |
| MinceR | imgur has gone cancerous | Jun 21 16:36 |
| MinceR | they fuck with direct links | Jun 21 16:36 |
| MinceR | naturally, they bloated their site first | Jun 21 16:37 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: indeed | Jun 21 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | OpenMandriva made the bizarre decision to change the default compiler to Clang. | Jun 21 16:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Quite a while ago. | Jun 21 16:38 |
| XRevan86 | Nobody cares about Mandriva so it went unnoticed. | Jun 21 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | Phoronix benchmarked it against other distributions and found that it wasn't the best performing distro on any of the tests, but it came in dead last on four of them. | Jun 21 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | One of the reasons I use Fedora is because they always use something close to the latest GCC and glibc, among other things. | Jun 21 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | So it usually performs very well. | Jun 21 16:40 |
| *XRevan86 looks at gcc-7-2.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.25-2.3.x86_64 | Jun 21 16:40 | |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: What versions do you have on Fedora? | Jun 21 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | * gcc7-7.1.1+r248590-1.1.x86_64 | Jun 21 16:41 |
| XRevan86 | wrong package | Jun 21 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | GCC 7.1.1 and Glibc 2.25, but they frequently update their package past the official stated version. | Jun 21 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | They pushed an updated glibc that took it to the latest git commit for the 2.25 branch this morning. | Jun 21 16:42 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I see you're on beta | Jun 21 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | Because it fixed a list of bugs and one CVE. | Jun 21 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, and it's quite stable right now. | Jun 21 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | There were some issues of parts of the Gnome Shell crashing earlier in the cycle. | Jun 21 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | It was frustrating, but it's not a finished product, so there's that. | Jun 21 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | They just released the latest stable Mesa packages as well. | Jun 21 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | A bunch of Intel bugs fixed in 17.1.3. | Jun 21 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | Skylake is starting to work quite nicely. | Jun 21 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | I may not ultimately stick with Fedora. | Jun 21 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | I might keep 26 around for a while and hop off onto CentOS 8 at some point in the future. | Jun 21 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | I very much doubt that CentOS 8 is more than a year out. | Jun 21 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | I could do an in place upgrade to Fedora 27 if I need to. Their process is finally reliable. | Jun 21 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Gallium-Uniform-Packing | Jun 21 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More Driver CPU Overhead Work Being Tackled By Valve Developers - Phoronix | Jun 21 16:49 | |
| DaemonFC | It's nice to see Valve so interested in Linux. | Jun 21 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed several video games that work better on Intel's Linux drivers than on their Windows 10 stuff. | Jun 21 16:51 |
| MinceR | it would be nicer if they were also interested in GNU | Jun 21 16:51 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Well, they use GNU stuff %) | Jun 21 16:52 |
| MinceR | afaik they depend on a fuckton of poetteringware | Jun 21 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: SteamOS is Debian based. | Jun 21 16:53 |
| MinceR | which is lendows | Jun 21 16:53 |
| cubexyz | did you look at casync? | Jun 21 17:06 |
| MinceR | no | Jun 21 17:07 |
| cubexyz | the first thing I thought when I heard about it was if it would work without systemd | Jun 21 17:09 |
| cubexyz | ok, good news :) | Jun 21 17:11 |
| MinceR | and you still believe poettering? | Jun 21 17:11 |
| cubexyz | it doesn't need systemd and it will work on linux systems without it | Jun 21 17:11 |
| MinceR | he's a slimy lying piece of shit | Jun 21 17:11 |
| cubexyz | why do you say that? | Jun 21 17:11 |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/pxRdY https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html | Jun 21 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | The future of the udev source tree | Jun 21 17:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop the udev firmware loader | Jun 21 17:12 | |
| MinceR | this is why i say that | Jun 21 17:12 |
| cubexyz | because you believe that udev won't stay non-systemd compatible | Jun 21 17:13 |
| MinceR | "for a long time" | Jun 21 17:14 |
| MinceR | "For us, compatibility is key." | Jun 21 17:14 |
| cubexyz | ok, it's 2017... | Jun 21 17:17 |
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| cubexyz | and I'm using slack with udev | Jun 21 17:17 |
| cubexyz | without systemd | Jun 21 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | Must be an old version of udev | Jun 21 17:17 |
| MinceR | that's eudev | Jun 21 17:19 |
| MinceR | slackware switched to eudev | Jun 21 17:19 |
| MinceR | because poettering is a lying piece of shit | Jun 21 17:19 |
| cubexyz | ok, yes eudev 3.1.5 | Jun 21 17:19 |
| MinceR | (that was one of the new things in 14.2) | Jun 21 17:20 |
| cubexyz | I assume it was forked? | Jun 21 17:20 |
| cubexyz | ah yes I see it is | Jun 21 17:20 |
| MinceR | also, approximately 2 years passed between those posts | Jun 21 17:21 |
| cubexyz | two bad things happened that I didn't like | Jun 21 17:25 |
| cubexyz | scanner protocols started becaming more obfuscated around.... | Jun 21 17:25 |
| cubexyz | when HP eliminated software developer support in august of 2001 | Jun 21 17:26 |
| MinceR | also, crApple bought CUPS and shat into it | Jun 21 17:27 |
| MinceR | 1 crApple, 1 CUPS | Jun 21 17:27 |
| cubexyz | then after that /dev/usb/scanner0 was dropped... no more fopen on that | Jun 21 17:27 |
| cubexyz | so to counter that I started maintaining the older systems | Jun 21 17:28 |
| cubexyz | ok, I didn't realize apple bought CUPS | Jun 21 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | I heard that eudev was not maintained anymore. | Jun 21 17:30 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/KevFR | Jun 21 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This has to be the best bitch slap in the history of video games - Album on Imgur | Jun 21 17:30 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: from red hat? | Jun 21 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | No, I can't recall where I read that. | Jun 21 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 21 17:31 |
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| cubexyz | not sure what's going on with eudev to be honest | Jun 21 17:38 |
| oiaohm | One of the embed conference developers in 2016 build systemd and then left behind only udev and it worked other than systemd containing rules files. | Jun 21 17:40 |
| oiaohm | So at this stage it appears nothing any different to what was done with sysvinit to make incompatibilities with other init systems has been done. | Jun 21 17:42 |
| MinceR | finally, the white knight, defender of corrupt corporations, is here | Jun 21 17:42 |
| oiaohm | Really it s bit of a joke to thing udev was init neutral | Jun 21 17:42 |
| MinceR | yes, was. | Jun 21 17:43 |
| oiaohm | No it was not. | Jun 21 17:43 |
| MinceR | note the past tense | Jun 21 17:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: do you own stock in red hat? | Jun 21 17:43 |
| oiaohm | The rules were always tainted with sysvinit stuff before systemd. | Jun 21 17:43 |
| cubexyz | did apple do anything bad to CUPS? | Jun 21 17:43 |
| oiaohm | And you had to remove those when you want to use runit and other init systems. | Jun 21 17:43 |
| cubexyz | I still use it and it seems to work | Jun 21 17:43 |
| MinceR | they made the web ui unnecessarily ugly | Jun 21 17:43 |
| MinceR | and they removed some feature _they_ did not need | Jun 21 17:43 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course you never would have using a non sysvinit back then. | Jun 21 17:43 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so you would have never known. | Jun 21 17:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: sysvinit was easy to replace | Jun 21 17:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: right when in some distributions hard drives did not even udev up correctly. | Jun 21 17:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: as I said you had never tried it. | Jun 21 17:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i never needed to | Jun 21 17:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: see multi did not really exist ever. | Jun 21 17:45 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: sysvinit didn't break cron, or syslogd, or atd, or tmux, or screen, or dtach | Jun 21 17:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: only people who believed that never tried it. | Jun 21 17:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also systemd did not break tmux or screen or dtach. Any different to what could happen with consolekit. Only thing was a default change. | Jun 21 17:46 |
| cubexyz | got a bit of a shock recently about sane-rts8891 | Jun 21 17:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and cron will work under systemd | Jun 21 17:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes it did | Jun 21 17:46 |
| cubexyz | "scanners of the same model exist with different sensors" | Jun 21 17:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: consolekit did not change the default. | Jun 21 17:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes, and cronjobs will be killed if cron is restarted | Jun 21 17:46 |
| MinceR | which is completely ass backwards | Jun 21 17:47 |
| MinceR | it follows from an assumption systemd makes that simply does not hold | Jun 21 17:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it was a console kit option. To kill processes on user logout. | Jun 21 17:47 |
| MinceR | but it's not like you'd ever care | Jun 21 17:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course that was off by default. | Jun 21 17:47 |
| MinceR | because something something slowlaris fucked up similarly too | Jun 21 17:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: do you know the difference between options and defaults? | Jun 21 17:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes and being a option any distribution in a global config file any distribution could have decided to ship with it reversed. | Jun 21 17:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so prove that the choosen default is wrong. | Jun 21 17:48 |
| cubexyz | and in the old days I could specify the dpi on my scans... | Jun 21 17:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yet no distribution has. | Jun 21 17:48 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and then you could tell which distros are made by people who don't know what they're doing | Jun 21 17:48 |
| cubexyz | 175, 200, 250 whatever I wanted | Jun 21 17:48 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: as your favorite malware made it possible all the same | Jun 21 17:48 |
| cubexyz | and I don't think XPA was ever supported with rts8891 based scanners :-/ | Jun 21 17:52 |
| cubexyz | oops, wait... I stand corrected | Jun 21 17:53 |
| cubexyz | eventually we did get XPA support for HP 4470C | Jun 21 17:53 |
| cubexyz | but there are at least two different CCDs | Jun 21 17:54 |
| cubexyz | SANE deals with this by implementing CCD1 and CCD2 support | Jun 21 17:54 |
| cubexyz | yeah so I was looking at an old man page | Jun 21 17:55 |
| cubexyz | not my fault though! | Jun 21 17:56 |
| cubexyz | I even looked at slackware 14.2 man page and they just didn't bother updating it | Jun 21 17:57 |
| cubexyz | because you know everybody loves nroff so much :-P | Jun 21 17:57 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/reasoning http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1496240951-20170531after%20%281%29.png | Jun 21 17:58 |
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| MinceR | i'd pick nroff over m$ office any day | Jun 21 17:59 |
| cubexyz | well yeah :) | Jun 21 18:00 |
| cubexyz | and you know I still use nroff | Jun 21 18:00 |
| MinceR | normally i use [La]TeX instead | Jun 21 18:03 |
| cubexyz | I'm pretty sure all SANE needed to do was turn on the XPA light, ta-da instant XPA support | Jun 21 18:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really lot of your complains are done without history. logind added as a option not default to kill processes on log out. Distributions deploying logind turned this on by config file first. The latter logind default was set to match distributions while adding option for per user override. | Jun 21 18:04 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i don't care about systemd-logind | Jun 21 18:04 |
| MinceR | never did, never will | Jun 21 18:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: So some issues with logind are coming from distributions to reduced number of bugs distributions have reported. | Jun 21 18:04 |
| MinceR | you're so zealous i can't even untangle your grammar anymore | Jun 21 18:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: hardened distributions in sysvinit were known for same thing. | Jun 21 18:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: including kill off everything in cron when cron died due to using something management around it. | Jun 21 18:06 |
| MinceR | ooh, running a massive hairball as root as pid1 is now "hardened" | Jun 21 18:06 |
| MinceR | do you get your terminology from microsoft? | Jun 21 18:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: most of this did not come from left field. | Jun 21 18:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: it should have stayed where it came from | Jun 21 18:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if you people thought this malicious shit was so perfect you should have let people choose it on their own instead of using politics to force it on everyone | Jun 21 18:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you did care about what Logind did then you should not have raised the tmux screen and detach issues. | Jun 21 18:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: at this point i'd refuse to adopt the shit you're pushing even if it was benign and good | Jun 21 18:07 |
| MinceR | that it's a piece of ill-designed malware is just icing on the turd | Jun 21 18:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not all the issue you are raising should be going back to systemd. Some are distribution maintainer selections. | Jun 21 18:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: try to get this through your thick skull: the free software community is not, and should not be, an empire | Jun 21 18:08 |
| oiaohm | Then you have to ask why are they selecting that way. | Jun 21 18:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i do not need an emperor, and i'm pretty sure many other people don't need one | Jun 21 18:08 |
| MinceR | either. | Jun 21 18:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes, which happen to be controlled by red hat | Jun 21 18:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: then why were harden distributions doing some of these thing before systemd existed. | Jun 21 18:09 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: hardening is not the same as randomly fucking with users and forcing things on them by using dependencies as weapons | Jun 21 18:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: logind killing screen dtach, tmux on logout is the same a console kit in harden distribution doing it. So that was hardening against a particular type of issue. Except the harded distribution was less userfriendly that user could not say X user would avoid termination. | Jun 21 18:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if one was to harden systemd, they would have to throw out most of it. | Jun 21 18:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: at any rate, hardening can only be done properly by the sysadmin, not by a self-appointed dictator from on high, since every system will be different regarding what they can let go | Jun 21 18:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: system admin still has to have the tools. Some things that systemd has done like having a option to terminate applications on user logout should be part of the default kit of tools and that is why hardened distributions had it. | Jun 21 18:15 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ill-conceived defaults are not tools | Jun 21 18:15 |
| MinceR | options are tools | Jun 21 18:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it was a option until it was seen that the first 5 distributions were turning it on by default and so far there as not being one turning it off since change to default. | Jun 21 18:16 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: maybe you need to study what "freedom" is | Jun 21 18:16 |
| oiaohm | Maybe you should. | Jun 21 18:16 |
| MinceR | the "first 5 distributions" are garbage | Jun 21 18:16 |
| oiaohm | The freedom to change the default is still there. | Jun 21 18:16 |
| MinceR | where is the freedom to not use cancerd? | Jun 21 18:16 |
| MinceR | "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call." | Jun 21 18:17 |
| oiaohm | embedded system developer use that freedom all the time. | Jun 21 18:17 |
| MinceR | as long as your beloved redhat allows them to | Jun 21 18:17 |
| oiaohm | Then the question comes why are distribution maintainers mostly choosing the same path. | Jun 21 18:17 |
| MinceR | because many of them relied on gnome, which is controlled by red hat | Jun 21 18:17 |
| MinceR | they announced that gnome will depend on systemd and the puppets followed them | Jun 21 18:18 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't know why Fedora still has Xchat packages when the last release was 7 years ago. | Jun 21 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | HexChat is actively developed. They have that too. | Jun 21 18:31 |
| MinceR | if things are properly automatized, it might be less work to leave it in | Jun 21 18:32 |
| cubexyz | I'm using xchat still | Jun 21 18:37 |
| cubexyz | 2.8.6 on this box | Jun 21 18:38 |
| MinceR | i tried weechat, then went back to irssi | Jun 21 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://hexchat.github.io/news/hexchat-and-antivirus.html | Jun 21 18:40 |
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| DaemonFC | When I used IRC on my AT&T DSL account years ago ,they kept sending me warnings that I had a virus. | Jun 21 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | And as proof, "There was IRC traffic detected from your computer.". | Jun 21 18:40 |
| cubexyz | slackware 14.2 has hexchat | Jun 21 18:40 |
| cubexyz | evidently the windows version of xchat was shareware and you were supposed to pay a one-time fee of $20 | Jun 21 18:43 |
| cubexyz | hexedit and xchat look very similar | Jun 21 18:48 |
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| DaemonFC | Should be the default ASAP. There's no downside to running the program on a processor without support for it other than the additional protection won't work. | Jun 21 19:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux vs. #Windows Server OS Comparison | Jun 21 21:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux vs. Windows Server OS Comparison | Tux Machines | Jun 21 21:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Canonical Also Patches #Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Against the...' | Jun 21 21:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/TyvjxyeUlq (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 21 22:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat Soars, Upgraded, Jim Whitehurst Speaks Out | Jun 22 00:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw #container #server #nc | Jun 22 00:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Soars, Upgraded, Jim Whitehurst Speaks Out | Tux Machines | Jun 22 00:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/877749687004127237 | Jun 22 01:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat Soars, Upgraded, Jim Whitehurst Speaks Out | Jun 22 01:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw #container #server #nc | Jun 22 01:49 |
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| MinceR | https://qz.com/1007144/the-neo-fascist-philosophy-that-underpins-both-the-alt-right-and-silicon-valley-technophiles/ | Jun 22 01:58 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @adymitruk favourited 'You need to check out the new #OnePlus...' | Jun 22 03:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Univention Corporate Server 4.2-1 | Tux Machines | Jun 22 03:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/adymitruk/status/877796614185697280 | Jun 22 04:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by You need to check out the new #OnePlus 5 before buying | Jun 22 04:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @adymitruk any other Android smartphone https://t.co/xA3K4GJ1G9 | Jun 22 04:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux | Jun 22 04:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | You need to check out the new OnePlus 5 before buying any other Android smartphone | Tux Machines | Jun 22 04:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877809371761201152 | Jun 22 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME Encrypted Home Folder, #Mutter Development, | Jun 22 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOMEMaps Development and More | Jun 22 04:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Encrypted Home Folder, Mutter Development, GNOME Maps Development and More | Tux Machines | Jun 22 04:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME Encrypted Home Folder, #Mutter Development, #GNOMEMaps Development...' | Jun 22 04:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/NG9lAKpIRY | Jun 22 04:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 22 04:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 22 04:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877810470446448640 | Jun 22 04:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Flatpak Linux App Sandboxing Receives New Feature That | Jun 22 04:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hardens Its #Security | Jun 22 04:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZGX53lbSTy (www.tuxmachines.org) #fedora | Jun 22 04:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnome #redhat | Jun 22 04:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Flatpak Linux App Sandboxing Receives New Feature That Hardens Its Security | Tux Machines | Jun 22 04:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877811026829484032 | Jun 22 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian 9.0.1 Released | Jun 22 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/O2xxJAlwHI (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian | Jun 22 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #bugfix | Jun 22 04:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 9.0.1 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 22 04:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Debian 9.0.1 Released https://t.co/O2xxJAlwHI #debian #gnu #linux...' | Jun 22 04:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @motters retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Debian 9.0.1 Released https://t.co/O2xxJAlwHI #debian #gnu #linux...' | Jun 22 04:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Flatpak Linux App Sandboxing Receives New Feature That...' | Jun 22 04:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Debian 9.0.1 Released https://t.co/O2xxJAlwHI #debian #gnu #linux...' | Jun 22 04:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Debian 9.0.1 Released https://t.co/O2xxJAlwHI #debian #gnu #linux...' | Jun 22 05:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#TheSSS 22.0 Linux Server Out with Kernel 4.9.13,...' | Jun 22 05:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Another reminder that those who value their...' | Jun 22 05:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Another reminder that those who...' | Jun 22 05:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877818543429079040 | Jun 22 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security: #BrutalKangaroo targets Windows, #Linux Updates | Jun 22 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available, Reproducible Builds, and Patching #StackClash | Jun 22 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ikEJoZI2gi (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 22 05:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Brutal Kangaroo Targets Windows, Linux Updates Available, Reproducible Builds, and Patching Stack Clash | Tux Machines | Jun 22 05:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #BrutalKangaroo targets Windows, #Linux Updates Available, Reproducible...' | Jun 22 05:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StayBeauti_ful retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #BrutalKangaroo targets Windows, #Linux Updates Available, Reproducible...' | Jun 22 05:25 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AdamPrzybyla retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #BrutalKangaroo targets Windows, #Linux Updates Available, Reproducible...' | Jun 22 05:36 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks It has long been known that #microsoft...' | Jun 22 05:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks It has long been known...' | Jun 22 05:43 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 22 05:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/MelindaMcC1/status/877825988138196992 | Jun 22 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #GNOME Encrypted Home Folder, #Mutter Development, | Jun 22 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @MelindaMcC1 #GNOMEMaps Development and More | Jun 22 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WYkPDo1OmH (www.tuxmachines.org) #system76 | Jun 22 05:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Encrypted Home Folder, Mutter Development, GNOME Maps Development and More | Tux Machines | Jun 22 05:55 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Flatpak Linux App Sandboxing Receives New Feature That...' | Jun 22 06:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange @wikileaks @softwarnet There is an easy fix...' | Jun 22 06:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Norway register shares dataset tools as open source | Jun 22 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/C50VkMA9lR (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 22 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #europe #sharing | Jun 22 06:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Norway register shares dataset tools as open source | Tux Machines | Jun 22 06:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877839442140114944 | Jun 22 06:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 8 ways to contribute to open source when you have no time | Jun 22 06:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 22 06:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 ways to contribute to open source when you have no time | Tux Machines | Jun 22 06:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Norway register shares dataset tools as open source...' | Jun 22 06:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | XOD: A New And Open Source Visual Programming Language | Jun 22 06:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Arduino, Raspberry Pi, Etc. https://t.co/tGFlJRUMrX | Jun 22 06:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #xod #raspi #arduino #freesw | Jun 22 06:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | XOD: A New And Open Source Visual Programming Language For Arduino, Raspberry Pi, Etc. | Tux Machines | Jun 22 06:55 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Did you get peed on?' | Jun 22 07:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Did you get peed on?' | Jun 22 07:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877847982749564929 | Jun 22 07:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/ubl7XIp7zS | Jun 22 07:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #google | Jun 22 07:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #samsung | Jun 22 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 22 07:23 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/ubl7XIp7zS ...' | Jun 22 07:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks No honour among thieves and crooks, who...' | Jun 22 07:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877858658343931904 | Jun 22 08:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New #Games for #GNU #Linux, #Tizen, and #Android | Jun 22 08:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aYbwZHqUkH (www.tuxmachines.org) #gaming | Jun 22 08:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #steamos #steam #tizenos | Jun 22 08:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Games for GNU/Linux, Tizen, and Android | Tux Machines | Jun 22 08:00 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New #Games for #GNU #Linux, #Tizen, and #Android...' | Jun 22 08:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks That's not the full story, Check out...' | Jun 22 08:09 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks I will just leave this here... https://t.co/p7rIuHCauM' | Jun 22 08:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @wikileaks I will just leave this here... https://t.co/p7rIuHCauM | Jun 22 08:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks I will just leave this...' | Jun 22 08:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ham_gretsky/status/877865001003868160 | Jun 22 08:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by New #Games for #GNU #Linux, #Tizen, and #Android | Jun 22 08:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ham_gretsky https://t.co/aYbwZHqUkH (www.tuxmachines.org) #gaming | Jun 22 08:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #steamos #steam #tizenos | Jun 22 08:25 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Create a s*list w/ references....' | Jun 22 08:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Create a s*list w/ references. So potential...' | Jun 22 08:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ObsessedBriefly retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New #Games for #GNU #Linux, #Tizen, and #Android...' | Jun 22 08:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux #freesw #cli | Jun 22 08:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 22 08:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StephenLSims retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/JBdG5iyflq #howto #unix #gnu #linux...' | Jun 22 08:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 https://t.co/JBdG5iyflq (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 22 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux #freesw #cli | Jun 22 08:59 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Rupert Murdoch's Fox 'news' says the same...' | Jun 22 09:20 | |
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| XRevan86 | http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/f9x2th7 The Poland's Sejm approved a law banning Soviet monuments (communist propaganda). | Jun 22 10:20 |
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| XRevan86 | Another country realised monuments of previous regimes are obsolete and must be removed. | Jun 22 10:21 |
| XRevan86 | When will monuments of Julius Caesar and Napoleon Bonaparte finally be gone? | Jun 22 10:22 |
| XRevan86 | These people were jerks, humanity should just forget they even existed. | Jun 22 10:23 |
| XRevan86 | And piramids are but a reminder of faraon oppression that glorify some jerk's ego. | Jun 22 10:24 |
| XRevan86 | All those monuments, propaganda of the past… It all should simply be destroyed. | Jun 22 10:27 |
| XRevan86 | I think 1984 covered this topic but never mid. | Jun 22 10:28 |
| XRevan86 | mind | Jun 22 10:28 |
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| MinceR | some of those were bigger jerks than others, especially in the context of their contemporaries | Jun 22 10:56 |
| MinceR | oh wait, there i go, "excessively" "demonizing" stalin... | Jun 22 10:56 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yeah, nobody can top faraons. Well, maybe Hitler. | Jun 22 11:00 |
| MinceR | what the pharaohs did was standard for their time, though | Jun 22 11:01 |
| MinceR | what stalin and hitler did, not so much | Jun 22 11:01 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: This reminds me of what the US did to people of Japanese nationality during WWII | Jun 22 11:06 |
| MinceR | yeah, that was nasty too | Jun 22 11:06 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Stalin was a big bafoon but he wasn't that much behind the times. | Jun 22 11:06 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's not like he had tens of millions of people killed in the 20th century or anything | Jun 22 11:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I thought the number is around a million | Jun 22 11:09 |
| MinceR | is that what putin's propaganda says nowadays about his idol? | Jun 22 11:09 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: 600 000 people political convicts killed. | Jun 22 11:11 |
| XRevan86 | directly or in prison | Jun 22 11:11 |
| MinceR | then there's at least 2.4 million as part of the holodomor | Jun 22 11:12 |
| MinceR | and that's apparently just a fraction of what he did | Jun 22 11:13 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If political mistakes count, then the number is bigger of course. | Jun 22 11:13 |
| MinceR | interesting terminology there | Jun 22 11:13 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's quite different, the repression apparatus and misgovern | Jun 22 11:15 |
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| MinceR | yes, an engineered famine is mere "misgovernment", a "mistake" | Jun 22 11:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So it was engineered? | Jun 22 11:18 |
| MinceR | it was | Jun 22 11:18 |
| XRevan86 | There are much quicker and easier ways of eliminating USSR from within | Jun 22 11:19 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Whom could it benefit? | Jun 22 11:19 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's safe to assume that Stalin's goal wasn't increasing misery of USSR. | Jun 22 11:20 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 22 11:20 |
| MinceR | one hypothesis was that he used it to kill off an independence movement | Jun 22 11:21 |
| MinceR | but he was a nutcase, so who knows | Jun 22 11:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The Ukrainian anarchists? | Jun 22 11:21 |
| XRevan86 | I don't think they were big enough at a time… | Jun 22 11:22 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He wasn't that much of a nutcase. | Jun 22 11:22 |
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| XRevan86 | If he knew the results of his reforms (a famine), he'd knew what a devastating effect it would have for the whole union and him personally. | Jun 22 11:23 |
| MinceR | oh, right, i forgot that humanity doubled down on authoritarianism and self-harm since 2010 | Jun 22 11:24 |
| MinceR | stalin and hitler are 'hip' now | Jun 22 11:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They both weren't even human, literally Anti-Christs, both of them/ | Jun 22 11:25 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor#cite_note-britannica-13 | Jun 22 11:26 |
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| MinceR | ""Its deliberate nature is underscored by the fact that no physical basis for famine existed in Ukraine ... Soviet authorities set requisition quotas for Ukraine at an impossibly high level. Brigades of special agents were dispatched to Ukraine to assist in procurement, and homes were routinely searched and foodstuffs confiscated ... The rural population was left with insufficient food to feed itself." | Jun 22 11:26 |
| MinceR | "reforms" | Jun 22 11:26 |
| MinceR | "mistake" | Jun 22 11:26 |
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| XRevan86 | > that no physical basis for famine existed in Ukraine | Jun 22 11:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's not a proof of the deliberate nature. | Jun 22 11:27 |
| MinceR | >underscored | Jun 22 11:28 |
| MinceR | read on. | Jun 22 11:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's how forced collectivisation was done, across the whole union. | Jun 22 11:28 |
| MinceR | usually not to the extent that it caused millions to starve to death, though | Jun 22 11:29 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: It kinda did | Jun 22 11:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Ukraine_famine_map.png | Jun 22 11:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This is a famine map, so to say | Jun 22 11:30 |
| XRevan86 | black bold lines are borders of the Ukrainian SSR | Jun 22 11:30 |
| XRevan86 | + Crimea | Jun 22 11:31 |
| XRevan86 | (wasn't a part of the Ukrainian SSR during Stalin's reign) | Jun 22 11:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Notice how the famine doesn't care about the black bold line. | Jun 22 11:32 |
| MinceR | ah, so the "mistake" was that they managed to kill people elsewhere as well | Jun 22 11:32 |
| XRevan86 | and is actually bigger than this Ukraine-concentrated map | Jun 22 11:32 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Famine_en_URSS_1933.jpg | Jun 22 11:33 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Every agrarian region of USSR suffered. | Jun 22 11:33 |
| XRevan86 | Is it because Stalin wanted to kill Ukrainians or is it because agrarian regions are what should be affected by a sloppy agrarian reform? | Jun 22 11:34 |
| XRevan86 | (Ukraine was the heart of the USSR's agrarian production) | Jun 22 11:35 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't call absurdly high requisition quotas and confiscating food a "reform" | Jun 22 11:39 |
| MinceR | but maybe that's because i'm not a communist | Jun 22 11:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Actually, in a way you're right. | Jun 22 11:39 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine there is high alignments. | Jun 22 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Great Chinese Famine - Wikipedia | Jun 22 11:40 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The first wave of collectivisation (voluntary) gave very impressive results; | Jun 22 11:40 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: When the second wave (forced) which was supposed to move USSR to mega-prosperity, turned out not to be so peachy; | Jun 22 11:41 |
| oiaohm | Both 1932 russia and 1958 China both attempted rapid changes to food production The year latter everything started falling in on them. | Jun 22 11:41 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The bureaucrats started thinking that this is because the greedy people were hiding stuff for themselves | Jun 22 11:41 |
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| MinceR | "thinking" | Jun 22 11:41 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Hence high requisition quotas, because the authorities thought people have much-much more just not giving away. | Jun 22 11:42 |
| MinceR | and there was no room for verifying assumptions on the go in communist methodology? | Jun 22 11:43 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Look at how Stalin governened and you'll see that nope. | Jun 22 11:43 |
| MinceR | must be the usual case of "ideology is always right, reality is sometimes wrong" | Jun 22 11:43 |
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| oiaohm | Really both famines I am not exactly sure if they are genocide by design. I think they are both genocide due to bad planning of food production. | Jun 22 11:44 |
| MinceR | yet you claim he was sane | Jun 22 11:44 |
| XRevan86 | It's not just this particular example, the whole Stalin's reign was like that. | Jun 22 11:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: of course you would | Jun 22 11:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you worship evil in all forms | Jun 22 11:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its what the history document support. | Jun 22 11:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You claimed he was a complete evil looney | Jun 22 11:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I have to scale that down | Jun 22 11:44 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: which he was | Jun 22 11:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: sure it is | Jun 22 11:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you just need to find the right "document"s | Jun 22 11:44 |
| MinceR | or write them. | Jun 22 11:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that they run out of food before they genocide rationing starts. | Jun 22 11:45 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's the kind of looking at history done in cartoons. | Jun 22 11:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you would think a planned one they would have had safe stock piles for themselves. | Jun 22 11:45 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: no, unfortunately that's the kind of behavior humans cultivate in some eras | Jun 22 11:45 |
| MinceR | like in the present one | Jun 22 11:45 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: they didn't live in ukraine. | Jun 22 11:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: all areas of russia has food restrictions in that time. | Jun 22 11:46 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And so you think it's plausable that he intentionally designed the famine. | Jun 22 11:46 |
| MinceR | apparently cartoonishly extreme evil is so unbelievable that people ignore it | Jun 22 11:46 |
| MinceR | and even defend it | Jun 22 11:46 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Evidence is against it. | Jun 22 11:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: just ukraine and other areas to fatal levels. | Jun 22 11:46 |
| MinceR | clever ploy | Jun 22 11:46 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: not the evidence i saw | Jun 22 11:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: include some areas pro russia. | Jun 22 11:46 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If that was the case, how did USSR managed to survive Stalin at all? | Jun 22 11:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: most russians were almost as worthless to stalin and his pals as ukrainians were | Jun 22 11:47 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: good question | Jun 22 11:47 |
| MinceR | bad luck, i guess | Jun 22 11:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you might want to look into the concept of the totalitarian dictatorship. | Jun 22 11:47 |
| XRevan86 | It's like thinking that the real Hitler's agenda was to destroy Germany. | Jun 22 11:47 |
| MinceR | that it would have inescapably lead to destroying germany? | Jun 22 11:48 |
| MinceR | s/ea/e/ | Jun 22 11:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is genocide by design and genocide by opportunity. I see those famines are genoside by opportunity. Where there is not enough resources so you allocate them out in a bias way. | Jun 22 11:48 |
| XRevan86 | Hitler actually loved Jews and hated Germans, it all was a part of the plan to give Jews Israel and divide Germany into two parts. amarait? no? | Jun 22 11:48 |
| XRevan86 | I hope nobody will quote that %). | Jun 22 11:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also genoside by opportunity have happened in non totalitarian countries. | Jun 22 11:49 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: good for you, i guess | Jun 22 11:51 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: it is publicly logged | Jun 22 11:51 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You know, as long as nobody rips it out of context. | Jun 22 11:51 |
| XRevan86 | I am doomed. | Jun 22 11:51 |
| MinceR | we all are | Jun 22 11:51 |
| MinceR | we live on a planet infested with humans and we can't escape | Jun 22 11:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland) another case of poorly planned farming. | Jun 22 11:52 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: history is has famine after famine caused by poor government and farm planning. Some of those turn into genosides when it comes to how aid and food resources will be provided. | Jun 22 11:53 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: like in the case of "not at all" | Jun 22 11:54 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and the genosides are not restricted to one government type. | Jun 22 11:54 |
| oiaohm | So everyone no matter the country they are in should be have some worry about food production. | Jun 22 11:55 |
| MinceR | especially in dictatorships | Jun 22 11:55 |
| MinceR | and even more so in dictatorships running a command economy | Jun 22 11:55 |
| oiaohm | Funny part is some dictatorships have handled famine well. | Jun 22 11:55 |
| oiaohm | With no genoside. | Jun 22 11:56 |
| oiaohm | Mainly because the dictatorship was well managed and allowed for the existence of proper food stock piles so when thing went wrong there was a decent buffer. | Jun 22 11:57 |
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| MinceR | the only way to manage a dictatorship well is to abolish it | Jun 22 11:57 |
| MinceR | oppression always harms the economy | Jun 22 11:58 |
| MinceR | this is something humans seem to have difficulty understanding nowadays | Jun 22 11:58 |
| oiaohm | When it comes to the famine question is about management of resources and storage of resources. This is not something that particularly favours any political model. | Jun 22 11:59 |
| MinceR | you have interesting misconceptions | Jun 22 11:59 |
| oiaohm | Its more how good are your public servents at doing their jobs. | Jun 22 11:59 |
| MinceR | also depends on what their jobs are | Jun 22 12:00 |
| MinceR | it usually includes ensuring that a parasite such as stalin is well fed | Jun 22 12:00 |
| MinceR | and in the case of the holodomor, also ensuring that ukrainians starve to death | Jun 22 12:00 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: How would you rate Stalin in a unit of poetterings? | Jun 22 12:06 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 22 12:10 |
| MinceR | i have better things to do than to rate assholes | Jun 22 12:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the holodomor case is hard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power People forget at that point Hitler is already in power in Germany. Russia is not wanting to appear weak. | Jun 22 12:11 |
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| MinceR | right, the usual fascistic obsession with "strength" | Jun 22 12:12 |
| MinceR | same as today | Jun 22 12:12 |
| MinceR | but i guess once you've managed to starve your entire population to death, the other dictators will no longer doubt your strength! | Jun 22 12:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no matter the government type the obsession with strength can exist leading to very bad choice making. | Jun 22 12:13 |
| MinceR | totally worth not even having an army anymore | Jun 22 12:13 |
| MinceR | or food | Jun 22 12:13 |
| MinceR | it's not a question of government type | Jun 22 12:13 |
| MinceR | it's a question of human mental issues | Jun 22 12:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you do a chart of famine in the USA at the moment it looks lot like the 1933 russia one. People forget 1 in 6 people in the USA are starving to death. | Jun 22 12:16 |
| MinceR | and which ethnic group is seen as rebellious by the government? | Jun 22 12:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes it ethnically zoned. | Jun 22 12:16 |
| MinceR | and how many have died in a year so far? | Jun 22 12:17 |
| abeNd-org | & how many that aren't starving are obese? | Jun 22 12:18 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: USA only really takes out 4000 a year that way for about the last 50 odd years. | Jun 22 12:20 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: also being obese is also ethnically zoned in the USA. | Jun 22 12:20 |
| oiaohm | So if the USA does not stave the people to death they feed them on crap food and have them with shorter lives due to being obese. | Jun 22 12:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: USA has not had excuse of famine for this to be able to write off more people. | Jun 22 12:22 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yet you're trying to equate that to the holodomor | Jun 22 12:24 |
| oiaohm | Its the same behavour. | Jun 22 12:24 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 22 12:25 |
| oiaohm | famine equals that behavour accelerated. | Jun 22 12:25 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 22 12:26 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.worldhunger.org/hunger-in-america-2016-united-states-hunger-poverty-facts/ | Jun 22 12:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldhunger.org | United States Hunger Facts, Poverty Facts 2016 - World Hunger News [ http://ur1.ca/r1imv ] | Jun 22 12:27 | |
| oiaohm | Areas where 20 percent of the population are not getting enough food now MinceR | Jun 22 12:27 |
| oiaohm | Add in a famine effects on top of the USA current state you have a mess. | Jun 22 12:27 |
| MinceR | no, i don't | Jun 22 12:28 |
| oiaohm | If you know what you are looking at you can find the same warning patterns before holodomor. | Jun 22 12:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lot of these disasters don't happen without warning signs. | Jun 22 12:30 |
| MinceR | so how is the food requisitioning and confiscation going in the usa? | Jun 22 12:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: going perfectly well by the usage of money. | Jun 22 12:33 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 22 12:34 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/why-does-the-govt-pay-farmers/ really you are ingoring basic things like this. | Jun 22 12:36 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: you're confusing different things with each other | Jun 22 12:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: don't have to requisition or confiscate the food if you have paid a farmer not to produce it. | Jun 22 12:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the result is the same. | Jun 22 12:37 |
| abeNd-org | oiaohm: lol, no, I would say just about all US citizens are obese, rare is it that someone bothers to actually eat healthy | Jun 22 12:37 |
| abeNd-org | oiaohm: zoning has nothing to do with fatties | Jun 22 12:37 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: http://www.worldhunger.org/hunger-in-america-2016-united-states-hunger-poverty-facts/ << the 1/6 are not obese they are in fact under weight. | Jun 22 12:37 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you don't have to anyway, that's not the issue | Jun 22 12:37 |
| MinceR | it is in fact still possible to live as a decent, civilized, intelligent being | Jun 22 12:38 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: USA is a area of polar opposites. | Jun 22 12:38 |
| MinceR | it's just that most humans don't | Jun 22 12:38 |
| abeNd-org | oiaohm: it would help if those folks actually ate real food, not crap fast food | Jun 22 12:38 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: those number are about people who cannot even by enough crap food. | Jun 22 12:38 |
| abeNd-org | pretty much anything in a drive through or boxed is trash food | Jun 22 12:39 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: so you have both the starving an the obsese in the USA. | Jun 22 12:39 |
| abeNd-org | oiaohm: sure they can, they can afford drugs, big screen TVs, iphone7+ | Jun 22 12:39 |
| abeNd-org | it is a choice | Jun 22 12:40 |
| abeNd-org | but, naaaa, personal responsibility, it is someone else's fault! | Jun 22 12:41 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: personal responsibility only gets someone so far. Areas where people are where the only food on sale is junk is big problems in the USA. Areas in the USA with no effective jobs is another. | Jun 22 12:43 |
| abeNd-org | so what did people do before the industrial revolution? surely people were able to eat then right? | Jun 22 12:44 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: also it does not help that USA graphs on obsese are done like https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity So everyone under a healthy weight gets called normal. | Jun 22 12:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.niddk.nih.gov | Overweight & Obesity Statistics | NIDDK [ http://ur1.ca/r1ir3 ] | Jun 22 12:44 | |
| abeNd-org | oiaohm: that is the problem, obese is considered "normal", a triple bypass is not "normal" | Jun 22 12:45 |
| oiaohm | Once you subtact the ones staving. less than 8 percent of the USA population is in the heathly range. | Jun 22 12:45 |
| abeNd-org | oh yea, you don't need a study to see that, just people watch at the mall | Jun 22 12:47 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: so either obese or starving with very little in the middle. | Jun 22 12:48 |
| abeNd-org | it doesnt matter age range, ethnicity, sex, whatever other demographic, this country is full of lazy fatties | Jun 22 12:48 |
| oiaohm | saying lazy fatties is not exactly true. | Jun 22 12:49 |
| abeNd-org | & it is their own fault, sure they could eat healthy & have a modest amount of movement per work, but nope, fatties it is! | Jun 22 12:49 |
| abeNd-org | obese/fatties/whatever politically correct boring pandering wording you want to use to make everyone feel better | Jun 22 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Poor food will equal over weight. Remember some places in the USA only food shops are fast food. | Jun 22 12:49 |
| abeNd-org | yes, & again, what did people do before the industrial revolution & everything came in a box? | Jun 22 12:50 |
| abeNd-org | did people eat then? | Jun 22 12:50 |
| abeNd-org | I guess they didn't & humanity starved to death, the species ceased to exist | Jun 22 12:50 |
| abeNd-org | bummer | Jun 22 12:50 |
| oiaohm | Not everyone before the industrial revolution was healthly either. | Jun 22 12:51 |
| abeNd-org | they had such potential Jean-Luc Picard | Jun 22 12:51 |
| oiaohm | wood shaving in bread was not exactly that hot. | Jun 22 12:51 |
| oiaohm | Maybe that would help some of the health level of faster food mandate pre industrial revolution bread. | Jun 22 12:52 |
| abeNd-org | or if people tried a little bit of science backed lifestyle changes ala https://nutritionfacts.org/ | Jun 22 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NutritionFacts.org | The Latest in Nutrition Related Research | Jun 22 12:53 | |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: people talk about eating the cardboard box that it would be better for you. The reality is some of the food before the industrial revolution was exactly taht. | Jun 22 12:53 |
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| abeNd-org | don't eat the cardboard box, & don't eat the contents either, eat real food instead | Jun 22 12:54 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: bread of the middle ages it was not uncommon to be bulked out with like saw dust. | Jun 22 12:55 |
| abeNd-org | yes, what is considered corporate greed existed back then as well | Jun 22 12:56 |
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| oiaohm | abeNd-org: saw dust does not have a weight gain problem. | Jun 22 12:57 |
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| abeNd-org | however, most people took food production into their own hands, what is so wrong with a community garden these days, plenty of land even in the most desolate food deserts | Jun 22 12:57 |
| oiaohm | High fat, high suger and high salt basically that was not before the industrial revolution in large amounts. | Jun 22 12:58 |
| abeNd-org | do you see me advocating high salt/sugar/fat diet? no, I suggest https://nutritionfacts.org/ | Jun 22 12:59 |
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| abeNd-org | can people, even in the most remote or desolate food desert areas archive that? yes | Jun 22 12:59 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 22 14:50 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 22 14:50 |
| DaemonFC | Will the Ford Focus jobs heading for China under Trump, after he promised to save them from Mexico, have suicide nets at the factory, just like crApple's suppliers do? | Jun 22 14:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Part of a comment I left for one of our US Senators. | Jun 22 14:51 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 22 14:51 |
| MinceR | http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1611 | Jun 22 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 06/15/2017 | Jun 22 14:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40366816 | Jun 22 15:02 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, A computer error caused a warning for an earthquake that happened in 1925 to be issued by the US federal government, with the warning dated for June of 2025. | Jun 22 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | Wow, we're so good we can predict them 8 years out? Trump Making America Great Again! | Jun 22 15:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 22 15:03 |
| schestowitz | he makes it great... not for everyone | Jun 22 15:04 |
| schestowitz | privatisation is stealing of what's public | Jun 22 15:04 |
| schestowitz | for the benefit of "job creators" like Trump | Jun 22 15:05 |
| schestowitz | so the public is getting impoverished, poorer, without quite feeling it yet | Jun 22 15:05 |
| schestowitz | public assets auctioned off | Jun 22 15:05 |
| schestowitz | like USSR after the collapse | Jun 22 15:05 |
| schestowitz | the oligarchs are Trump's friends | Jun 22 15:05 |
| MinceR | on the long term, for nobody | Jun 22 15:05 |
| MinceR | but dump will be dead by then, probably | Jun 22 15:05 |
| schestowitz | and Kushner is among the recipients, just like in russia where putin's mates are family-like/kins | Jun 22 15:06 |
| MinceR | his stupid kids may have to face the consequences though | Jun 22 15:06 |
| schestowitz | naa, they'll be rich | Jun 22 15:06 |
| schestowitz | if the pitchforks come they'll move to NZ or something | Jun 22 15:06 |
| schestowitz | where you can BUY a citizenship and get protected by the crony gov | Jun 22 15:06 |
| schestowitz | Peter Thiel already did that | Jun 22 15:06 |
| MinceR | being rich will not necessary save them | Jun 22 15:08 |
| MinceR | bombs, diseases, rising sea levels don't discriminate that much | Jun 22 15:09 |
| MinceR | and if the state fails, their money may well become worthless | Jun 22 15:09 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yeah, like how Trump cuts public housing, except for Section 8 vouchers, where he makes several million dollars a year as a slum landlord. | Jun 22 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, We're a long ways off from the government failing here. | Jun 22 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | There's plenty that are in line ahead of us | Jun 22 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | Most of Europe, for example. | Jun 22 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois is like an American version of Greece though, so there's some similarities. | Jun 22 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | Huge debt, staggering unemploymnet. | Jun 22 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | But the US average isn't *that* bad. | Jun 22 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois managed to promise more and more to public unions each year without actually setting money aside for things like pensions. | Jun 22 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | And now it's sitting on top of $140 billion in unfunded pensions and $14 billion of unpaid bills. | Jun 22 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | And that's just at the state level. | Jun 22 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | The state Comptroller recently warned that soon 100% of state revenue will be spent on court mandated payments, and the state might start missing bond payments. | Jun 22 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | Once that happens, it's going to be contagion for the government bond market. | Jun 22 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | We've never reached a point where an entire state has failed. | Jun 22 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | Just some large cities. | Jun 22 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | A county here and there. | Jun 22 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | Congress will be forced to pass a state bankruptcy law of some sort because Illinois will be in bankruptcy whether a court restructures anything or not. | Jun 22 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | Once you miss bond payments, either nobody loans you money or it'll be the sovereign equivalent of a payday loan. | Jun 22 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | So overnight the state will have to cut spending to cash on hand. | Jun 22 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | That means cuts on nearly everything, except the pensions, because the unions got those crammed into the state's constitution, but at that point voters will be screaming "You're taking care of them and not us!" and will force a constitutional amendment through the ballot process to void the pensions. | Jun 22 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | So, the Republicans will get what they want now or later, and shit, maybe even I vote to void the pensions. | Jun 22 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | The state is a big trash fire. | Jun 22 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | Believe me, voiding pensions entirely is not what I want to do, but you can't have a situation where all state spending is on pensions. | Jun 22 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have nothing for health care, infrastructure, education... All in bad shape right now. | Jun 22 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | At the very least, deep cuts to the pensions are necessary at this point. | Jun 22 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | Both sides are blaming each other. They figure that they can blame the other one for the wreckage and rebuild Illinois in their image once the other one is gone. | Jun 22 15:42 |
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| cubexyz | Mincer, life on earth survived the Permian-Triassic extinction event | Jun 22 17:49 |
| cubexyz | so it should survive anything that humans do, assuming they don | Jun 22 17:50 |
| cubexyz | t deliberately make a doomsday device or something really stupid | Jun 22 17:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Darth_Vikkyo/status/878006530452340737 | Jun 22 17:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Darth_Vikkyo: @schestowitz @Joly_2u @wikileaks This coming from the same guy who swindled South American Cartels? | Jun 22 17:52 | |
| cubexyz | also grey goo would never happen | Jun 22 17:53 |
| cubexyz | replicating nanomachines would just run out of useable material | Jun 22 17:54 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: humans won't, though | Jun 22 17:54 |
| cubexyz | so the show goes on | Jun 22 17:54 |
| MinceR | also, the planet is made of usable material :> | Jun 22 17:54 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: and dump's offspring are humans | Jun 22 17:54 |
| cubexyz | Trump is merely a selfish materialist | Jun 22 17:58 |
| cubexyz | people won't vote him a 2nd term | Jun 22 17:58 |
| cubexyz | at least, I sure hope not | Jun 22 17:58 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/ZOk8I | Jun 22 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Attention to detail level: 100,000 - Album on Imgur | Jun 22 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | trump uses BreitFart as a source: 瑨灴㩳⼯睴瑩整�潣⽭敲污潄慮摬牔浵⽰瑳瑡獵㠯㠷〰㤶㐶㜰ㄲ㤸㔹 | Jun 22 18:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/878006964072189952 | Jun 22 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@realDonaldTrump: As promised, our campaign against the MS-13 gang continues. "@ICEgov Busts 39 MS-13 Members in New York Operation" https://t.co/ki41GXeCMy | Jun 22 18:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.breitbart.com | ICE Busts 39 MS-13 Members in New York Operation | Jun 22 18:04 | |
| MinceR | of course he does | Jun 22 18:04 |
| MinceR | he's aligned with the altReich | Jun 22 18:04 |
| MinceR | or at least was | Jun 22 18:04 |
| cubexyz | Trump is mainly a bullshit artist | Jun 22 18:56 |
| cubexyz | once people understand that... that should be the end of president Trump | Jun 22 18:57 |
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| cubexyz | ironic that I have the source to microsoft solitaire and not loki's EUS | Jun 22 19:27 |
| cubexyz | in fact I don't have the source to any loki game | Jun 22 19:27 |
| cubexyz | got to look into VCMI though | Jun 22 19:28 |
| cubexyz | and there's OpenHOMM | Jun 22 19:30 |
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| cubexyz | hmmm, debian wheezy might be worth another look | Jun 22 19:45 |
| cubexyz | it's got VCMI in contrib, that would save a lot of time | Jun 22 19:46 |
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| cubexyz | using windows now would feel foreign to me | Jun 22 22:58 |
| cubexyz | definitely not missing it | Jun 22 22:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878098800715247616 | Jun 22 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Moto E4 #Android smartphone review | Jun 22 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BXeT9S4AFY (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 22 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 22 23:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Moto E4 Android smartphone review | Tux Machines | Jun 22 23:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Moto E4 #Android smartphone review https://t.co/BXeT9S4AFY #linux' | Jun 22 23:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878099419966586880 | Jun 23 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Moto E4 review: Keeping it simple https://t.co/6FX0eNVuVN | Jun 23 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux | Jun 23 00:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Moto E4 review: Keeping it simple | Tux Machines | Jun 23 00:00 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Moto E4 #Android smartphone review https://t.co/BXeT9S4AFY #linux' | Jun 23 00:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878102513303654401 | Jun 23 00:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Moto E4 review: Keeping it simple https://t.co/6FX0eNVuVN | Jun 23 00:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux | Jun 23 00:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/878108424583520261 | Jun 23 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Moto E4 #Android smartphone review | Jun 23 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/BXeT9S4AFY (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 23 02:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/scas/status/878141508032921600 | Jun 23 02:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based | Jun 23 02:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @scas on #Debian 9 "Stretch" https://t.co/2ThYGvHigg | Jun 23 02:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 23 02:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 23 02:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878142916400697344 | Jun 23 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #SteamVR, Controller, Sale, and #CryENGINE | Jun 23 02:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TdizmYPKIB (www.tuxmachines.org) #steamos | Jun 23 02:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #steam #games | Jun 23 02:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam VR, Controller, Sale, and CryENGINE | Tux Machines | Jun 23 02:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #SteamVR, Controller, Sale, and #CryENGINE https://t.co/TdizmYPKIB ...' | Jun 23 02:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #SteamVR, Controller, Sale, and #CryENGINE https://t.co/TdizmYPKIB ...' | Jun 23 02:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878144678469574656 | Jun 23 03:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE: #digiKam 5.6.0, #KOrganizer, Robert Kaye, and IMEs | Jun 23 03:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ApkOfRqhmg (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #gnu | Jun 23 03:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #plasma | Jun 23 03:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: digiKam 5.6.0, KOrganizer, Robert Kaye, and IMEs | Tux Machines | Jun 23 03:00 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @webmastersguard favourited '#SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 23 03:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878146517772582912 | Jun 23 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS: #GitHub Survey, Dash, #Tensor2Tensor, #Istio and | Jun 23 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More | Jun 23 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5rJVU6YUWF (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 23 03:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS: GitHub Survey, Dash, Tensor2Tensor, Istio and More | Tux Machines | Jun 23 03:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'FOSS: #GitHub Survey, Dash, #Tensor2Tensor, #Istio and More...' | Jun 23 03:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878149101753434112 | Jun 23 03:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Chromebook and PCs With #GNU #Linux | Jun 23 03:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ODcnGGX32q (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 03:20 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Chromebook and PCs With #GNU #Linux https://t.co/ODcnGGX32q...' | Jun 23 03:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878151400219430912 | Jun 23 03:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rugged Android ADAS computer does surround-view | Jun 23 03:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | monitoring and tracking | Jun 23 03:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NS9n7ssoAh (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 23 03:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #android | Jun 23 03:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged Android ADAS computer does surround-view monitoring and tracking | Tux Machines | Jun 23 03:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Rugged Android ADAS computer does surround-view monitoring and...' | Jun 23 03:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Servers: #Infrakit & #LinuxKit, #CMTL, #ServiceMaster, | Jun 23 03:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Synology, #Ubuntu, and #NeuVector | Jun 23 03:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ujBIAHy3OK (www.tuxmachines.org) #server | Jun 23 03:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 03:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: Infrakit & LinuxKit, CMTL, ServiceMaster, Synology, Ubuntu, and NeuVector | Tux Machines | Jun 23 03:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Servers: #Infrakit & #LinuxKit, #CMTL, #ServiceMaster, #Synology, #Ubuntu,...' | Jun 23 03:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pyrokitteh/status/878157035581448192 | Jun 23 03:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by FOSS: #GitHub Survey, Dash, #Tensor2Tensor, #Istio and | Jun 23 03:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pyrokitteh More | Jun 23 03:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5rJVU6YUWF (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 23 03:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS: GitHub Survey, Dash, Tensor2Tensor, Istio and More | Tux Machines | Jun 23 03:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Servers: #Infrakit & #LinuxKit, #CMTL, #ServiceMaster, #Synology, #Ubuntu,...' | Jun 23 03:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878157876845568000 | Jun 23 03:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 23 03:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/G4xQxBkOTS (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix #gnu | Jun 23 03:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 23 03:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 23 03:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/G4xQxBkOTS #unix #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 03:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878159335242727424 | Jun 23 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat : #BritishArmy Deal, | Jun 23 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #HyperconvergedInfrastructure, #OpenShift, Soaring Share | Jun 23 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Price, and #Fedora | Jun 23 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LYcQr8gxwN (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 23 03:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat: British Army Deal, Hyperconverged Infrastructure, OpenShift, Soaring Share Price, and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jun 23 03:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#RedHat : #BritishArmy Deal, #HyperconvergedInfrastructure, #OpenShift, Soaring Share...' | Jun 23 03:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat : #BritishArmy Deal, #HyperconvergedInfrastructure, #OpenShift, Soaring Share...' | Jun 23 04:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878166015296716800 | Jun 23 04:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | In a matter of 2 months @tuxmachines at #mastodon gained | Jun 23 04:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | as many followers as #twitter in 3 years, The network | Jun 23 04:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | effect is there.... | Jun 23 04:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878166869987008512 | Jun 23 04:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME / #GSOC Development and Cascade Windows in | Jun 23 04:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOMEShell | Jun 23 04:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/luoiSLEhBb (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 23 04:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME/GSOC Development and Cascade Windows in GNOME Shell | Tux Machines | Jun 23 04:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME / #GSOC Development and Cascade Windows in...' | Jun 23 04:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878168552406081537 | Jun 23 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tumbleweed Development and Laptop Experience | Jun 23 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EgWRwx3HYD (www.tuxmachines.org) #suse | Jun 23 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #opensuse #gnu #linux | Jun 23 04:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tumbleweed Development and Laptop Experience | Tux Machines | Jun 23 04:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878169231111540737 | Jun 23 04:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Development Updates: #GDM, #Kernel, and #Ubuntu | Jun 23 04:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone | Jun 23 04:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wJW9yOYDqB (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 23 04:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #gnome | Jun 23 04:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Development Updates: GDM, Kernel, and Ubuntu Phone | Tux Machines | Jun 23 04:41 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Development Updates: #GDM, #Kernel, and #Ubuntu Phone...' | Jun 23 04:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Ubuntu Development Updates: #GDM, #Kernel, and #Ubuntu | Jun 23 05:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wJW9yOYDqB (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 23 05:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | The latest The #Ubuntu Daily! https://t.co/CPCjdnyPPn | Jun 23 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines @ranayasirnu | Jun 23 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ubuntu_street #ubuntu #linux | Jun 23 06:43 |
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| XRevan86 | - I, across the apartment: Putin will be re-electing. | Jun 23 10:55 |
| XRevan86 | - Mum: Good. | Jun 23 10:55 |
| MinceR | :( | Jun 23 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/878260857200795651 | Jun 23 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based | Jun 23 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @AlejosAngel on #Debian 9 "Stretch" https://t.co/2ThYGvHigg | Jun 23 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 23 11:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 23 11:00 | |
| schestowitz | [15:55] <XRevan86> - I, across the apartment: Putin will be re-electing. | Jun 23 11:11 |
| schestowitz | eelcted? | Jun 23 11:11 |
| schestowitz | or electing (himself)? | Jun 23 11:11 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: he will run for office | Jun 23 11:11 |
| schestowitz | maybe he'll find another one to swap PM position with | Jun 23 11:11 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: "run" | Jun 23 11:11 |
| schestowitz | In Putin's Russia, Office runs YOU! | Jun 23 11:12 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: He doesn't need to, it'll be his only second time in a row | Jun 23 11:12 |
| schestowitz | hahaha! | Jun 23 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I know | Jun 23 11:12 |
| schestowitz | after an hiatus | Jun 23 11:12 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: yep | Jun 23 11:12 |
| schestowitz | maybe he can later change the rules like Battistelli does | Jun 23 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Mubarak was president for how long? 30 years? | Jun 23 11:12 |
| MinceR | re-electing himself | Jun 23 11:13 |
| schestowitz | good luck to him! | Jun 23 11:15 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure he'll manage | Jun 23 11:15 |
| schestowitz | or else some people are going to fall out of windows | Jun 23 11:15 |
| MinceR | or disappear from the street | Jun 23 11:17 |
| MinceR | or accidentally end up with polonium in their tea | Jun 23 11:17 |
| XRevan86 | The news article states that he himself didn't say that he will, but his campaign is already in work anyway. | Jun 23 11:17 |
| XRevan86 | so even without the official confirmation it's already evident | Jun 23 11:18 |
| schestowitz | [16:17] <MinceR> or accidentally end up with polonium in their tea | Jun 23 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Along with staff in the refectory/cafeteria | Jun 23 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Putin likes nuclear options | Jun 23 11:25 |
| schestowitz | the "drone strike"/"nuke strike" hero | Jun 23 11:26 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @LeslieAnderso28 favourited '#Devuan and #Debian Updates https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 11:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan and Debian Updates | Tux Machines | Jun 23 11:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878275250877747200 | Jun 23 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | University of #Missouri Adopts #OpenAccess | Jun 23 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/amEccgdc2w (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 11:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | University of Missouri Adopts Open Access | Tux Machines | Jun 23 11:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878275481040285696 | Jun 23 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by University of #Missouri Adopts #OpenAccess | Jun 23 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/amEccgdc2w (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 12:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878282642990391296 | Jun 23 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gThumb : View and manage your photos in #Fedora | Jun 23 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aPdRCV4lPr (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 23 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 12:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | gThumb: View and manage your photos in Fedora | Tux Machines | Jun 23 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878282851250294784 | Jun 23 12:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Manjaro 17.0.1 Gellivara (Che Guevara) - Pretty decent | Jun 23 12:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iX0lcpJK7k (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 12:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 12:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 12:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 17.0.1 Gellivara (Che Guevara) - Pretty decent | Tux Machines | Jun 23 12:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @technologytales retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Manjaro 17.0.1 Gellivara (Che Guevara) - Pretty decent...' | Jun 23 12:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#gThumb : View and manage your photos in...' | Jun 23 12:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Manjaro 17.0.1 Gellivara (Che Guevara) - Pretty decent...' | Jun 23 12:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878285080564609024 | Jun 23 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | No-frills networking appliance runs #Linux on Apollo Lake | Jun 23 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ibQYCvoy8n (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WinEnterprises | Jun 23 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 12:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | No-frills networking appliance runs Linux on Apollo Lake | Tux Machines | Jun 23 12:17 | |
| XRevan86 | https://hitech.newsru.com/article/23jun2017/dumavpn1 I don't even | Jun 23 12:23 |
| XRevan86 | "The State Duma approved the bill about forbidding VPN and anonymisers in first reading" | Jun 23 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hitech.newsru.com | ???? ???? ?????? ? ???? VPN ? ??????? ? ??? ???? | Jun 23 12:23 | |
| XRevan86 | > charset=windows-1251 | Jun 23 12:24 |
| XRevan86 | TechrightsBot-tr: You're really good at it. | Jun 23 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/kaddourkardio/status/878285761946275840 | Jun 23 12:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by University of #Missouri Adopts #OpenAccess | Jun 23 12:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @kaddourkardio https://t.co/amEccgdc2w (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 12:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 12:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | University of Missouri Adopts Open Access | Tux Machines | Jun 23 12:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'No-frills networking appliance runs #Linux on Apollo Lake...' | Jun 23 12:26 | |
| schestowitz | Please help spread; | Jun 23 12:29 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2017/06/23/introduction-to-epo/ Primer to the Crisis and Scandals at the European Patent Office (EPO) | Jun 23 12:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Primer to the Crisis and Scandals at the European Patent Office (EPO) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/r1thq ] | Jun 23 12:29 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: the bot was developed by an old IRC member, Tony | Jun 23 12:30 |
| schestowitz | when he was a teen | Jun 23 12:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'No-frills networking appliance runs #Linux on Apollo Lake...' | Jun 23 12:36 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Does it have source code? | Jun 23 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878290541565358081 | Jun 23 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | That #OpenSUSE Tablet So Far Is A Dud | Jun 23 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vjXRlwlbho (www.tuxmachines.org) #suse #gnu | Jun 23 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 23 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 12:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | That OpenSUSE Tablet So Far Is A Dud | Tux Machines | Jun 23 12:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'That #OpenSUSE Tablet So Far Is A Dud...' | Jun 23 12:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878291496524435456 | Jun 23 12:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/UKrUNyfDkd | Jun 23 12:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #androidO #sony #chromebook | Jun 23 12:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #samsung #vr #linux #google | Jun 23 12:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 23 12:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 12:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/UKrUNyfDkd #androidO #sony #chromebook #samsung ...' | Jun 23 12:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878292722427318272 | Jun 23 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Vulkan vs. #OpenGL With The #Radeon RX 470 On An Intel | Jun 23 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xeon | Jun 23 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mUd6eET2ol (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphics | Jun 23 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark #gnu #linux | Jun 23 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 12:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vulkan vs. OpenGL With The Radeon RX 470 On An Intel Xeon | Tux Machines | Jun 23 12:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Vulkan vs. #OpenGL With The #Radeon RX 470...' | Jun 23 12:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Vulkan vs. #OpenGL With The #Radeon RX 470...' | Jun 23 12:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/878294697592053761 | Jun 23 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Android Leftovers https://t.co/UKrUNyfDkd | Jun 23 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) #androidO #sony #chromebook | Jun 23 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #samsung #vr #linux #google | Jun 23 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 12:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878295705764364288 | Jun 23 12:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The role of open source software in telecommunications | Jun 23 12:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nYPIrSDc73 (www.rcrwireless.com) #freesw | Jun 23 12:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 12:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rcrwireless.com | The role of open source software in telecommunications | Jun 23 12:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878296187580932098 | Jun 23 12:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.12 Ubuntu Benchmarks With AMD Ryzen, Intel | Jun 23 12:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kabylake - 12 Systems https://t.co/itHErc1SvM | Jun 23 12:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #benchmark #gnu #linux #benchmark | Jun 23 12:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 12:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.12 Ubuntu Benchmarks With AMD Ryzen, Intel Kabylake - 12 Systems | Tux Machines | Jun 23 12:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The role of open source software in telecommunications...' | Jun 23 12:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.12 Ubuntu Benchmarks With AMD Ryzen, Intel...' | Jun 23 13:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ExponetUSA/status/878296593350479872 | Jun 23 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Vulkan vs. #OpenGL With The #Radeon RX 470 On An Intel | Jun 23 13:05 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Does it only show titles? | Jun 23 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ExponetUSA Xeon | Jun 23 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mUd6eET2ol (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphics | Jun 23 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark #gnu #linux | Jun 23 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 13:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vulkan vs. OpenGL With The Radeon RX 470 On An Intel Xeon | Tux Machines | Jun 23 13:05 | |
| XRevan86 | https://newsru.com/russia/23jun2017/navalnycikrf.html Navalny has been excluded from the race. | Jun 23 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NEWSru.com :: ЦИК РФ поставил вне избирательного законодательства штабы Навального и его выдвижение кандидатом в президенты | Jun 23 13:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878299896293359616 | Jun 23 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tizen (Linux) and #Samsung | Jun 23 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4eEbFuUUUl (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizenos | Jun 23 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 23 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 13:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen (Linux) and Samsung | Tux Machines | Jun 23 13:17 | |
| XRevan86 | How random, this page on newsru.com is with UTF-8 %). | Jun 23 13:21 |
| XRevan86 | or was he excluded? at least now the Central Election Commission says he can't | Jun 23 13:28 |
| XRevan86 | it's really confusing | Jun 23 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878300995737927680 | Jun 23 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Tizen (Linux) and #Samsung | Jun 23 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/4eEbFuUUUl (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizenos | Jun 23 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 23 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 13:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878304173640605696 | Jun 23 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #Machinarium , #SeriousSam 3 and More | Jun 23 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cfbMn6yVfM (www.tuxmachines.org) #gaming | Jun 23 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #games #gnu #linux | Jun 23 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 13:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Machinarium, Serious Sam 3 and More | Tux Machines | Jun 23 13:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878305496201125889 | Jun 23 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics in Linux: Mesa, GPUOpen, RadeonSI, Vulkan and | Jun 23 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenGL | Jun 23 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 13:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Graphics in Linux: Mesa, GPUOpen, RadeonSI, Vulkan and...' | Jun 23 13:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878305548982145024 | Jun 23 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics in Linux: #Mesa, #GPUOpen, #RadeonSI, #Vulkan | Jun 23 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and #OpenGL | Jun 23 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rKtrRfY09l (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 23 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 13:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux: Mesa, GPUOpen, RadeonSI, Vulkan and OpenGL | Tux Machines | Jun 23 13:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #Machinarium , #SeriousSam 3 and More ...' | Jun 23 13:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics in Linux: #Mesa, #GPUOpen, #RadeonSI, #Vulkan and...' | Jun 23 13:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ExponetUSA retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics in Linux: #Mesa, #GPUOpen, #RadeonSI, #Vulkan and...' | Jun 23 13:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics in Linux: #Mesa, #GPUOpen, #RadeonSI, #Vulkan and...' | Jun 23 13:49 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 23 13:50 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 23 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878308933017808896 | Jun 23 13:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rockstor: A Solid Cloud Storage Solution for Small or | Jun 23 13:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Home Office | Jun 23 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GqiuMiHmAd (www.tuxmachines.org) #Rockstor | Jun 23 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 13:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rockstor: A Solid Cloud Storage Solution for Small or Home Office | Tux Machines | Jun 23 13:52 | |
| razielle_tzu | hi sebsebseb | Jun 23 14:01 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 23 14:01 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: mostly a good day yesterday | Jun 23 14:01 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: computer stuff with a woman in after from LUG at her flat | Jun 23 14:02 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: got her to come to my other group in evening to, but not really for her right now, but she came so that's good | Jun 23 14:02 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: pm me | Jun 23 14:02 |
| MinceR | http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/22/18/41A5922000000578-4629882-image-a-7_1498152486663.jpg | Jun 23 14:06 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/precious | Jun 23 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Precious | Jun 23 14:41 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/8IHemLd | Jun 23 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I don't believe it - Imgur | Jun 23 15:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878309607122366464 | Jun 23 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Rockstor: A Solid Cloud Storage Solution for Small or | Jun 23 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Home Office | Jun 23 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GqiuMiHmAd (www.tuxmachines.org) #Rockstor | Jun 23 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 15:31 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/lBVcb | Jun 23 15:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Married Life !!!! - Album on Imgur | Jun 23 15:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878336924485914624 | Jun 23 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jonathan Riddell Releases #ISOImageWriter | Jun 23 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/etJ9ViF5r7 (www.tuxmachines.org) @jriddell | Jun 23 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kde #neon #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 23 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 15:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Jonathan Riddell Releases ISO Image Writer | Tux Machines | Jun 23 15:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Jonathan Riddell Releases #ISOImageWriter https://t.co/etJ9ViF5r7 @jriddell #kde #neon...' | Jun 23 15:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#Canonical Also Patches #Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Against the...' | Jun 23 15:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Jonathan Riddell Releases #ISOImageWriter https://t.co/etJ9ViF5r7 @jriddell #kde #neon...' | Jun 23 15:47 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/a-frankenstein | Jun 23 15:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - A Frankenstein [ http://ur1.ca/r1uoi ] | Jun 23 15:56 | |
| MinceR | http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-no-known-ransomware-windows-we-tried-to-hack-it/ | Jun 23 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft says 'no known ransomware' runs on Windows 10 S — so we tried to hack it | ZDNet | Jun 23 16:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | I found another bug. | Jun 23 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1464599 | Jun 23 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1464599 – Browsers that use WebkitGTK play some videos with severe distortion if using VA-API. | Jun 23 17:32 | |
| schestowitz | meh | Jun 23 17:34 |
| schestowitz | it's full of it | Jun 23 17:34 |
| schestowitz | I moved away | Jun 23 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They issued a fix for one of the WebkitGTK+ bugs I reported. | Jun 23 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | The one where it caused the entire Gnome Web browser to crash when trying to save images from discogs.com | Jun 23 17:35 |
| schestowitz | sounds pretty severe | Jun 23 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I've reported two bugs in Gnome Web itself and two in WebkitGTK+ in Fedora 26. | Jun 23 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | And working on a third one for Gnome Web. | Jun 23 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It's got problems. | Jun 23 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Well, any time you can reliably crash a program like a web browser, it's bad. | Jun 23 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | Possible exploit. | Jun 23 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I've reported a ton of bugs so far, although I should probably send some upstream as well. | Jun 23 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | Since I reported them to Fedora already, it should be copy and paste. | Jun 23 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | Easytag corrupting vorbis comment on Ogg Vorbis files is a pretty nasty one. | Jun 23 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | It corrupts them in such a way that some of the audio data is occasionally corrupted and there's no way to fix the file after that. | Jun 23 17:43 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/Ch6m4 | Jun 23 17:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meanwhile at the grocery - Album on Imgur | Jun 23 17:45 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I can see why distributions tend not to install Gnome Web. | Jun 23 17:48 |
| MinceR | strange | Jun 23 17:48 |
| MinceR | most distros like crap | Jun 23 17:48 |
| schestowitz | systemd-web | Jun 23 17:49 |
| schestowitz | coming soon | Jun 23 17:49 |
| schestowitz | after LP's latest project | Jun 23 17:50 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 23 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | Gnome is becoming an extension of systemd into the desktop. | Jun 23 17:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878370659792900096 | Jun 23 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 2.11 is Released | Jun 23 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IxycdSX4kl (www.tuxmachines.org) #wine #gnu | Jun 23 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #unix | Jun 23 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 2.11 is Released | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Wine 2.11 is Released https://t.co/IxycdSX4kl #wine #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 17:56 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it just hasn't been gnomed yet | Jun 23 17:58 |
| schestowitz | dbus | Jun 23 17:58 |
| schestowitz | gtkd | Jun 23 17:59 |
| schestowitz | mutted | Jun 23 17:59 |
| schestowitz | evolutioned | Jun 23 17:59 |
| schestowitz | it ain't done until systemd will run | Jun 23 18:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=System76-Ubuntu-Update | Jun 23 18:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-System76 Continues Working On GNOME Improvements For Future Ubuntu - Phoronix | Jun 23 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | just now.. | Jun 23 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM-Vt87W3_A | Jun 23 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Like Humans Do - David Byrne - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r1v7f ] | Jun 23 18:01 | |
| DaemonFC | That was the track Microsoft included in Windows XP, but they removed the part about being stoned. | Jun 23 18:01 |
| MinceR | drugs are bad, m'kay? | Jun 23 18:01 |
| schestowitz | ballmer got pelted with eggs, close enough... | Jun 23 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Re Ubuntu, it's turning into Windows more or less. | Jun 23 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | Nasty EULA, have to sign in to Ubuntu One to download Snaps, etc. | Jun 23 18:02 |
| MinceR | and the morons love it | Jun 23 18:02 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Wine 2.11 is Released https://t.co/IxycdSX4kl #wine #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 18:18 | |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: MinceR schestowitz had to sign in to ubuntu one to donwnload apps onto ubuntu phone or tablet | Jun 23 18:19 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: MinceR schestowitz having an offial snaps store that requires that, so what? | Jun 23 18:19 |
| MinceR | so it's a walled garden as well? | Jun 23 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878376688521928705 | Jun 23 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing | Jun 23 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "498 out of 500 supercomputers were running Linux." | Jun 23 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hpc | Jun 23 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux owns supercomputing | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:20 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Correct. | Jun 23 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | Snaps are: Bloated, centralized, and not widely supported. | Jun 23 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | Flatpak is supported by multiple distros, including Ubuntu, out of the box, it is decentralized, and Flatpaks are smallish. | Jun 23 18:21 |
| MinceR | so how well do flatpaks work on a non-cancerous distro? | Jun 23 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | In some cases, Snaps are ten times the size of the same software in a Flatpak. | Jun 23 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They don't require systemd at all if that's what you mean. | Jun 23 18:22 |
| sebsebseb | they have made snaps samller | Jun 23 18:22 |
| sebsebseb | i read | Jun 23 18:22 |
| MinceR | so what do they require? | Jun 23 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | Earlier versions needed it to setup cgroups, but that's no longer true. | Jun 23 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Pretty much just the flatpak software afaik. | Jun 23 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | you can live in the past with | Jun 23 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | They don't need Gnome or systemd at all. | Jun 23 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | with init | Jun 23 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | xorg | Jun 23 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | etc | Jun 23 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | but the world wil move on of linux | Jun 23 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | to system d :D | Jun 23 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | and wayland and maybe btfs | Jun 23 18:24 |
| MinceR | sucks to be the world, then | Jun 23 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | btrfs is going nowhere. | Jun 23 18:24 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 23 18:24 |
| sebsebseb | well not maby distros have it by default | Jun 23 18:24 |
| sebsebseb | did suse do it i think ? | Jun 23 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | Most distros _support_ but do not default to btrfs. | Jun 23 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | jolla had or had by default for salifsh os | Jun 23 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | yep its so debatey | Jun 23 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's not really in a state where you'd want to use it. | Jun 23 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | why its not default yet | Jun 23 18:25 |
| MinceR | btrfs is in mainline Linux | Jun 23 18:25 |
| MinceR | but it's unreliable, afaik | Jun 23 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's very slow. | Jun 23 18:25 |
| MinceR | i tried it once, when i really needed block checksumming | Jun 23 18:25 |
| MinceR | and it died pretty quickly | Jun 23 18:25 |
| cubexyz | tons of people don't like systemd | Jun 23 18:26 |
| MinceR | i ended up relying on git for checking bit rot instead | Jun 23 18:26 |
| cubexyz | not to mention the BSDs and other alternatives | Jun 23 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | mir is nearly dead | Jun 23 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | for the time being ubports will still have to support, but that is transiting to wayland will be | Jun 23 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | and not sure about the yunit unity 8 fork, but possibly | Jun 23 18:27 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: BSD is not that reivent anymore, except for people like you | Jun 23 18:29 |
| sebsebseb | Linux Linux Linux is what its about | Jun 23 18:29 |
| sebsebseb | well | Jun 23 18:29 |
| sebsebseb | Windows kind of, Mincer 's beloved Mac OS X, and then Linux | Jun 23 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | market share wise yes | Jun 23 18:30 |
| cubexyz | Mincer doesn't use Mac, he hates apple | Jun 23 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | he loves Apple | Jun 23 18:30 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb knows that, he's just trolling | Jun 23 18:30 |
| sebsebseb | secretly, but alwasy denys it | Jun 23 18:31 |
| MinceR | i'm curious about how well the bsd-s support my new laptop | Jun 23 18:31 |
| MinceR | i suspect they won't :> | Jun 23 18:31 |
| sebsebseb | well there we go then | Jun 23 18:31 |
| sebsebseb | bsd even less relivent | Jun 23 18:31 |
| cubexyz | chromeos is the other obvious alternative | Jun 23 18:31 |
| sebsebseb | won't run on cerina new modern hardware | Jun 23 18:31 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: to what desktop linux? | Jun 23 18:31 |
| MinceR | the only good thing about chromeos is its firmware :> | Jun 23 18:31 |
| cubexyz | chromeos + crouton | Jun 23 18:32 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: Chrome OS is an altternaive to what desktop linux? | Jun 23 18:32 |
| MinceR | enable developer mode, boot a real OS | Jun 23 18:32 |
| cubexyz | sure, it can be | Jun 23 18:32 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: chromeos is sufficient for the needs of most lusers | Jun 23 18:32 |
| MinceR | especially now that it can run android apps too | Jun 23 18:32 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: losers? | Jun 23 18:32 |
| MinceR | lusers | Jun 23 18:32 |
| cubexyz | but I use chromeos with crouton which is basically chromeos with linux running inside it | Jun 23 18:32 |
| sebsebseb | whats lusers? | Jun 23 18:32 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/L/luser.html | Jun 23 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catb.org | luser | Jun 23 18:33 | |
| cubexyz | plus in the future it will be chromeos + linuxx + android all in one | Jun 23 18:33 |
| sebsebseb | Google can cater for the basic needs etc sure, and that's with both android and chormeos in this context, but there have been more interesitng altenaries | Jun 23 18:33 |
| sebsebseb | alough for mobile the only one that has a chance now it seems at going more main strmeae with commerical devices is salifsh os hmm | Jun 23 18:33 |
| *sebsebseb waits for the annoucment the proper one of the sony xpeira x it seems, with that hopefully pre loaded, not just a rom for it | Jun 23 18:33 | |
| cubexyz | btw openbsd was my 2nd most reliable OS after FC1 | Jun 23 18:33 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 23 18:34 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: to which ? | Jun 23 18:34 |
| MinceR | i guess you didn't do much package management, then | Jun 23 18:34 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: ratcrap garbage | Jun 23 18:34 |
| sebsebseb | uh | Jun 23 18:34 |
| MinceR | with their shitty excuse for a package manager | Jun 23 18:34 |
| sebsebseb | who? | Jun 23 18:34 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d "498 out...' | Jun 23 18:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux owns supercomputing | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CerebralMisjif favourited '#GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d "498 out...' | Jun 23 18:34 | |
| MinceR | whatever-it-is-this-week/RPM | Jun 23 18:34 |
| cubexyz | there's no package manager with FC1 nowadays :) | Jun 23 18:35 |
| cubexyz | you know I'm Mr. Tarball | Jun 23 18:35 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 23 18:35 |
| MinceR | slackware was made for you | Jun 23 18:35 |
| cubexyz | I did eventually gravitate towards slack | Jun 23 18:35 |
| MinceR | i hardly had a choice | Jun 23 18:36 |
| MinceR | devuan refused to make any of the network interfaces on my new laptop work | Jun 23 18:36 |
| MinceR | trying to upgrade the kernel via backports resulted in broken x | Jun 23 18:36 |
| cubexyz | you're using slack on your laptop? | Jun 23 18:36 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 23 18:36 |
| MinceR | and it all just worked in slackware -current | Jun 23 18:36 |
| cubexyz | welcome to the club then :) | Jun 23 18:37 |
| MinceR | plus APT doesn't get to annoy me with shit like "but it is not going to be installed" | Jun 23 18:37 |
| MinceR | thanks | Jun 23 18:37 |
| MinceR | APT gets cryptic as hell the moment i stray off the beaten path | Jun 23 18:37 |
| cubexyz | you might like vector when they bring out their next version which should be soon | Jun 23 18:37 |
| MinceR | i'm not really fond of paying for my OS | Jun 23 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/CerebralMisjif/status/878380767751045120 | Jun 23 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing | Jun 23 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @CerebralMisjif https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "498 out of 500 supercomputers were running Linux." | Jun 23 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hpc | Jun 23 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:38 | |
| sebsebseb | does vecoter still sti? | Jun 23 18:38 |
| sebsebseb | sell | Jun 23 18:38 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 23 18:38 |
| MinceR | they tried the last time i cared | Jun 23 18:39 |
| cubexyz | well, the vector folks ask for support, you can still download the ISOs for free | Jun 23 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I saw an advertisement for a university here in Chicago. | Jun 23 18:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: one euro fo the hungarian wall os :d with a statue on top of the logo for it, of mincer trying to leave? | Jun 23 18:39 |
| cubexyz | I still run a couple of vector boxes | Jun 23 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | Their ad was 14 lines of Java code. It asked "Are you up for the challenge?". | Jun 23 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878381727978319873 | Jun 23 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wine 2.11 is Released | Jun 23 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://t.co/IxycdSX4kl (www.tuxmachines.org) #wine #gnu | Jun 23 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #unix | Jun 23 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 2.11 is Released | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:39 | |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i don't understand | Jun 23 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | I emailed them and said "Yeah, that's one line in Perl.". | Jun 23 18:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: it happens to be a Linux distro, that doesn't do much, without systemd, but yes that | Jun 23 18:39 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Jun 23 18:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: you would pay :D | Jun 23 18:39 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: you're mistaken | Jun 23 18:40 |
| sebsebseb | its worth one euro | Jun 23 18:40 |
| sebsebseb | :D | Jun 23 18:40 |
| sebsebseb | that is all | Jun 23 18:40 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: espeically dedicated to you, systemd haters, and people who want to potentially leave hungary :d | Jun 23 18:41 |
| sebsebseb | one euro is all it costs | Jun 23 18:41 |
| cubexyz | hungary is good, they invented the cube :) | Jun 23 18:41 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions#Slackware-based | Jun 23 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of Linux distributions - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r1vcs ] | Jun 23 18:42 | |
| sebsebseb | the cube | Jun 23 18:42 |
| sebsebseb | ? | Jun 23 18:42 |
| cubexyz | rubik's cube | Jun 23 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Jun 23 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | didnt know that | Jun 23 18:43 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: pretty small set | Jun 23 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Jun 23 18:43 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: they also destroyed the freedom that fell in their lap | Jun 23 18:44 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Jun 23 18:44 |
| cubexyz | as I've said before, I should have got into BSD as far back as 1995 | Jun 23 18:46 |
| cubexyz | perhaps even 1993 | Jun 23 18:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so how well do flatpaks work on a non-cancerous distro? << Down right perfectly flatpaks are even designed to use a non container solution if kernel does not have cgroups | Jun 23 18:46 |
| cubexyz | 1993 was a very significant year for operating systems | Jun 23 18:47 |
| cubexyz | Slackware 1.0 and FreeBSD 1.0 came out in 1993 | Jun 23 18:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/wiki/Sandbox Of course you nave never bothered check how flatpak works instead think that think it something out of redhat that it has to be some form of domination project. | Jun 23 18:48 |
| sebsebseb | and windows 3.1? | Jun 23 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sandbox · flatpak/flatpak Wiki · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/r1vdr ] | Jun 23 18:48 | |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: and windows 3.1 ? | Jun 23 18:48 |
| cubexyz | windows 3.1 was launched in april 1992, but yes it was around that time | Jun 23 18:48 |
| MinceR | could someone hit snooze on the redhat shill? | Jun 23 18:49 |
| cubexyz | also Minix 1.5 was released in 1991, but I had a lot of trouble with it | Jun 23 18:49 |
| cubexyz | I wasn't as patient back then | Jun 23 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | then this android thing came out | Jun 23 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | about 20 years later | Jun 23 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | fast forward about 7 years | Jun 23 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | or so | Jun 23 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | and | Jun 23 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | or five | Jun 23 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | or so | Jun 23 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | and | Jun 23 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | Commander Frosted Flakes says: | Jun 23 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | (Change) | Jun 23 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, they'll fire the cashiers and pass the savings onto you in the form of $10 for a burger and some fries that were under the heat lamp too long. :) | Jun 23 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | The quality of McDonalds is garbage and making the experience even more miserable and expensive isn't working out for them, but you dangle "kiosks" over Wall Street and they jump on it like a dog in heat. | Jun 23 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | and Windows has lost most of its market share too it | Jun 23 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | to andorid | Jun 23 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly | Jun 23 18:50 |
| cubexyz | android was much later on | Jun 23 18:51 |
| cubexyz | that's 2008 | Jun 23 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: the McDonalds here have two reasosanble veggie burgers | Jun 23 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: even get a nice little cucumber on it | Jun 23 18:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no could the person who cannot do there research before comenting spend sometime doing research then I would not have to be correcting errors. | Jun 23 18:51 |
| MinceR | veggie burger with double meat? :> | Jun 23 18:51 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @kfalconspb favourited '#GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d "498 out...' | Jun 23 18:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Traduced favourited '#GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d "498 out...' | Jun 23 18:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux owns supercomputing | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:51 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: your corporate whore act is boring | Jun 23 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: however I am a bit hmm going to McDonalds s, bnow as someone wo went veggie for un sure about certina things reasons and ethics but yes someitmes such as syesterday | Jun 23 18:52 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: nope no meat | Jun 23 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXhJPey3i_A | Jun 23 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ron Swanson on Vegan Bacon - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r1ve9 ] | Jun 23 18:52 | |
| cubexyz | ok, I'm here to give good advice :) | Jun 23 18:52 |
| cubexyz | learn to cook | Jun 23 18:52 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: altough might have been cooked in something that was used for meat hmm, but I hope not | Jun 23 18:52 |
| MinceR | "once you were a vegan, but soon you will be gone." | Jun 23 18:52 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: vegan bacon is quite good for what it is too | Jun 23 18:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I am not employed by redhat. I am not paid them. My main job validation of stuff this is know it history of who did what and when. | Jun 23 18:52 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: can tast better than real bacon | Jun 23 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | meat eaters may say that even if trying | Jun 23 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: vegetarian not vegan | Jun 23 18:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 23 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | vegan is like | Jun 23 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | well | Jun 23 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | welll it's a life style etc as well, but | Jun 23 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | its a bit like richard stallman or can be :d the extreame end of things | Jun 23 18:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and a lot of what you say is not aligning with what has happen in the history of the project or what the project are doing. | Jun 23 18:53 |
| cubexyz | vegans can still eat nuts/legumes I assume? | Jun 23 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | no honey for vegans though | Jun 23 18:54 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNqSGolI_N8 | Jun 23 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scott Pilgrim vs. The World - You were sort of Vegan, but now you will begone - YouTube | Jun 23 18:54 | |
| *sebsebseb likes honey here anad there | Jun 23 18:54 | |
| sebsebseb | not seen either of htose videos | Jun 23 18:54 |
| cubexyz | too strict for me then | Jun 23 18:54 |
| sebsebseb | yet or whatever | Jun 23 18:54 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: vegan is like the extmre end compare it to sofwtare | Jun 23 18:54 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: doing vegan properly, would be a bit like running richards free software only lap top :d | Jun 23 18:55 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: what is rms at the extreme end of? giving up his principles for red hat's money? | Jun 23 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | richard stallmans | Jun 23 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: of software | Jun 23 18:55 |
| MinceR | that makes no sense | Jun 23 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | no won't go on websites since it rusn popritary software | Jun 23 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly he will now | Jun 23 18:55 |
| MinceR | what's extreme about "software"? | Jun 23 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | no won't run something or hte other that makes the hardware actsaully work better | Jun 23 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | since closed | Jun 23 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | etc | Jun 23 18:55 |
| cubexyz | it's logical to use proprietary software when necessary | Jun 23 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | most Linux users give up there freedoms for the propritary drivers if they got hardware for htat | Jun 23 18:55 |
| cubexyz | no point in being pedantic about it | Jun 23 18:56 |
| MinceR | and the consequences will be "logical" as well :> | Jun 23 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | with reason or reason enough it makes sense to use propritary software | Jun 23 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | oh and if your into gaming for example well | Jun 23 18:56 |
| cubexyz | using win10 is still out of the question though | Jun 23 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | yes there are some good open source games or more, but most games are closed | Jun 23 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tch4v0L0GHA | Jun 23 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Best Of Ron Swanson (Parks and Recreation) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r1ves ] | Jun 23 18:56 | |
| MinceR | wait till m$ buys redhat | Jun 23 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | even running windows at times there can be valid enough reason | Jun 23 18:57 |
| sebsebseb | but I usaully don't | Jun 23 18:57 |
| cubexyz | no way the DOJ would allow that MinceR | Jun 23 18:57 |
| sebsebseb | since its a awful os, how it works etc, all the re booting etc | Jun 23 18:57 |
| cubexyz | but under Trump I wonder | Jun 23 18:57 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: since when did they care about the laws? | Jun 23 18:57 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: they never enforce laws against monopoly abuse | Jun 23 18:57 |
| MinceR | they're corrupt, rotten to the core | Jun 23 18:58 |
| MinceR | and this isn't going to be fixed either, since the majority of the human species is the same | Jun 23 18:58 |
| MinceR | fearing freedom, forcing oppression on everyone they can, including themselves | Jun 23 18:58 |
| cubexyz | Janet Reno did bring Microsoft to task for violations of the sherman antitrust act | Jun 23 18:58 |
| MinceR | it's thoroughly sick | Jun 23 18:58 |
| MinceR | and it will have a painful end | Jun 23 18:59 |
| cubexyz | just the end result was poor | Jun 23 18:59 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: so, what happened? | Jun 23 18:59 |
| MinceR | see, nothing happened | Jun 23 18:59 |
| MinceR | m$ has become the gatekeeper of the x86 ISA via UEFI and Restricted Boot | Jun 23 18:59 |
| MinceR | and nobody bats an eye | Jun 23 18:59 |
| cubexyz | it was settled _after_ Reno left the DOJ | Jun 23 18:59 |
| MinceR | they force botnet malware on people buying PCs using Restricted Boot and Backdoors10 | Jun 23 18:59 |
| MinceR | and still nobody bats an eye | Jun 23 19:00 |
| MinceR | much of human society and technology relies on IT, which is being destroyed from under our feet | Jun 23 19:00 |
| cubexyz | remember we still have coreboot, and I use it every day | Jun 23 19:01 |
| MinceR | i wonder for how long are we going to have it | Jun 23 19:01 |
| cubexyz | it's not all just the M$ show | Jun 23 19:01 |
| MinceR | yeah, there's also crApple | Jun 23 19:01 |
| MinceR | who made DRM and closed platforms acceptable | Jun 23 19:01 |
| MinceR | even popular | Jun 23 19:01 |
| MinceR | and there's the global wave of fascism, religious fundamentalism and anti-intellectualism | Jun 23 19:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is no gain to Microsoft to buy redhat. Why redhat only does about 10 percent of development work on their distribution. That is one of the things you miss. Redhat is very careful to make sure developers from companies and other distributions can submit patches to the code they have. | Jun 23 19:02 |
| MinceR | i even hear people bringing up SuperFish but not minding Backdoors10 | Jun 23 19:03 |
| cubexyz | which laptop are you using again? | Jun 23 19:03 |
| oiaohm | Also there was a very big fight over uefi to get the PK as controlled by the owner of machine. | Jun 23 19:04 |
| MinceR | i got a Lenovo ThinkPad X270 | Jun 23 19:04 |
| MinceR | if it's abusive, you can be sure oiaohm will tirelessly advertise it here | Jun 23 19:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no an advertiser | Jun 23 19:05 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if coreboot would work on that | Jun 23 19:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: where are you get this wrong idea. | Jun 23 19:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really someone has to be shill of they have a different idea to you???? | Jun 23 19:05 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: afaik intel boot guard blocks it | Jun 23 19:06 |
| MinceR | can't have competition in IT, after all | Jun 23 19:06 |
| cubexyz | Lenovo doesn't fill me with confidence :-/ | Jun 23 19:06 |
| MinceR | IT is just too important for our self-styled corporate overlords to leave any control to users over | Jun 23 19:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there was quite a dispute from companies over Microsoft being the gatekeeper. Resulting in PK and KEK set changeable. | Jun 23 19:06 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: i wouldn't trust their non-ThinkPad products at all | Jun 23 19:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: the whole point of uefi was to wrest control from users after what ended up being Treacherous Computing didn't do it | Jun 23 19:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yet here you are, defending the indefensible | Jun 23 19:07 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, at least you can boot into slack | Jun 23 19:07 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 23 19:07 |
| MinceR | this laptop supports legacy boot | Jun 23 19:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: bootguard makes OEM the firmware gate keeper. For companies like google or custom order boards they get the Private key to the bootguard. | Jun 23 19:07 |
| MinceR | it wasn't too difficult to enable it | Jun 23 19:07 |
| cubexyz | I'm thinking about getting a chromebox with a big SSD | Jun 23 19:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: uefi design was not to wrest control from users. That is how Microsoft attempted to take it. The design was to protect against boot attack. | Jun 23 19:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and you eat up all the ads and all the propaganda and believe every letter of it | Jun 23 19:09 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: let me guess, you also believe that the TPM is not there to help enforce DRM | Jun 23 19:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the first documentation is that the PK was always ment to be controlled by the owner of the machine that you never read. | Jun 23 19:09 |
| cubexyz | the M004U doesn't look bad | Jun 23 19:09 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i don't care about the marketing | Jun 23 19:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: did you also believe m$ when they said the current version of winblows is perfectly secure? | Jun 23 19:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is not marketing the first implementations of UEFI had end users in control. | Jun 23 19:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: first implementation to not was in Microsoft Windows RT hardware. | Jun 23 19:10 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, we can't trust Intel | Jun 23 19:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so this is not marketing this is purely Microsoft as normal abusing standards | Jun 23 19:11 |
| MinceR | oh, he trusts intel without question | Jun 23 19:11 |
| cubexyz | Intel ME and all that secret stuff... | Jun 23 19:11 |
| MinceR | the words are so nice on the brochures! | Jun 23 19:11 |
| MinceR | critical thinking, what's that? | Jun 23 19:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: boot guard and ME I take issue with Intel. | Jun 23 19:11 |
| oiaohm | I don't 100 percent like Intel. | Jun 23 19:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: good for you | Jun 23 19:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and presumably your cognitive dissonance keeps you from realizing that uefi forces 100% m$ formats on users | Jun 23 19:12 |
| oiaohm | Something like UEFI if always implemented by spec are only annoying things to get past to end users. | Jun 23 19:12 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't be surprised at all if it was found out that TianoCore was written by people from m$ | Jun 23 19:12 |
| cubexyz | you got to have legacy boot or whatever it's called | Jun 23 19:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, i grabbed a laptop before they get rid of legacy boot | Jun 23 19:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Intel with PE and Fat in UEFI if you read the mailing list that was if Intel did not do that Microsoft would not support EFI (before the U bit). | Jun 23 19:13 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: see, m$ pulls the strings | Jun 23 19:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: intel demarded patent free on that usage. | Jun 23 19:14 |
| MinceR | ah yes, patents | Jun 23 19:14 |
| MinceR | yet another fascistic racket | Jun 23 19:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: microsoft argued for 12 months to attempt to avoid that. | Jun 23 19:14 |
| MinceR | and so you believe that patents were the only issue with it | Jun 23 19:14 |
| MinceR | not the fact that m$ still controls the "technology" or the fact that it's crap | Jun 23 19:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it gets worse PE used by EFI have requirements that make them incompatible with Microsoft standard compilers. | Jun 23 19:15 |
| MinceR | "standard" | Jun 23 19:15 |
| MinceR | there's no such thing as "microsoft standard" | Jun 23 19:15 |
| MinceR | even the "standard" they wrote and bribed iso to rubberstamp, they don't obey themselves | Jun 23 19:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: PE has a spec Intel extended it. | Jun 23 19:16 |
| MinceR | "microsoft standard" is a joke | Jun 23 19:16 |
| MinceR | ooh, intel extended it | Jun 23 19:16 |
| MinceR | who cares? | Jun 23 19:16 |
| MinceR | there are sprinkles on this turd! | Jun 23 19:16 |
| MinceR | guess what, it still stinks the same. | Jun 23 19:16 |
| cubexyz | you can't polish a turd :) | Jun 23 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Traduced/status/878385042602557440 | Jun 23 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing | Jun 23 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Traduced https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "498 out of 500 supercomputers were running Linux." | Jun 23 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hpc | Jun 23 19:16 |
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| MinceR | well, you can, but the result won't be pleasing | Jun 23 19:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux / #UNIX Updates, #Ztorg malware, Let's Encrypt, | Jun 23 19:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #CIA #Windows Exploits, Windows Compromised and Code | Jun 23 19:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878392575744520199 | Jun 23 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New #Python Primers | Jun 23 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fy85LazhyT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #programming #development #coding #freesw #sharing | Jun 23 19:23 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/VHZHBiF.jpg | Jun 23 19:26 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: over EFI Microsoft and Intel have not been getting along. So EFI has end up a set of compromises. | Jun 23 19:31 |
| MinceR | by the looks of it, compromises between two equally horrible and evil alternatives | Jun 23 19:32 |
| MinceR | http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/10014.html | Jun 23 19:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also history is import. Boot guard by intel is not by intel. Via implemented in their x86 cpu in 1995 a optional boot guard. Intel waited until the patent expired. | Jun 23 19:32 |
| MinceR | >The fundamental problem is that UEFI is a lot of code. And I really do mean a lot of code. Ignoring drivers, the x86 Linux kernel is around 30MB of code. A comparable subset of the UEFI tree is around 35MB. UEFI is of a comparable degree of complexity to the Linux kernel. | Jun 23 19:32 |
| MinceR | just to boot the damn computer | Jun 23 19:32 |
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| oiaohm | I really do back the right to repair laws. | Jun 23 19:33 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: via doesn't have the market power to force this sort of shit to be accepted | Jun 23 19:33 |
| cubexyz | sorry but I must have the ability to boot into the OS of my choice, otherwise no deal | Jun 23 19:33 |
| MinceR | also, people were not as clueless and self-harming in 1995 as they are now | Jun 23 19:33 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: this is the part where oiaohm will call you a greybeard | Jun 23 19:34 |
| cubexyz | ha, people were clueless in 1995 as well... | Jun 23 19:34 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: Via got some of it market share by providing boot-guard features. | Jun 23 19:34 |
| cubexyz | "start me up" | Jun 23 19:34 |
| cubexyz | win95? | Jun 23 19:34 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: how could you possibly know better than poettering and nadella what you want to do with your own computer? | Jun 23 19:34 |
| oiaohm | Lot of this stuff we have had 20 years + warning that it coming. | Jun 23 19:34 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: people were wary of malware in 1995 | Jun 23 19:34 |
| cubexyz | lining up to buy win95 in droves... and some of them had computers that couldn't even run windows 95? :) | Jun 23 19:35 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: now they buy Backdoors10 | Jun 23 19:35 |
| cubexyz | people are a bit _less_ clueless now | Jun 23 19:35 |
| cubexyz | and we don't usually see winprinters and winscanners and winmodems | Jun 23 19:36 |
| MinceR | people wouldn't have considered the inability to pick your own programs to run on a mobile device (phone, pda, whatever) in 1995 | Jun 23 19:36 |
| MinceR | nowadays they line up to buy hypePhones | Jun 23 19:36 |
| MinceR | we see winpcs now | Jun 23 19:36 |
| MinceR | not just uefi | Jun 23 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173796 | Jun 23 19:36 |
| cubexyz | that's true | Jun 23 19:36 |
| MinceR | we also have winblows tablets with a 32bit uefi implementation that was written specifically to screw with users who wanted to boot a real OS on them | Jun 23 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | I filed a bug upstream on Webkit. | Jun 23 19:36 |
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| cubexyz | we have to be vigilant about that | Jun 23 19:37 |
| MinceR | i was hoping for a screenshot | Jun 23 19:37 |
| oiaohm | ME is really SMM take to the next level. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Mode | Jun 23 19:37 |
| MinceR | though i guess the distortions may not necessarily show up on a screenshot | Jun 23 19:37 |
| MinceR | yes, and there's also TC and Restricted Boot | Jun 23 19:37 |
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| cubexyz | the idea of OS freedom in 1995 wasn't as highly developed as it is now | Jun 23 19:38 |
| cubexyz | you bought an amiga you got amigados, you bought an atari etc etc | Jun 23 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878395784001204224 | Jun 23 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: Open Source Summit 2017, #DebConf17, #ProgressBar | Jun 23 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #HackerSpace, #Nodejs Foundation | Jun 23 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TAH6nhwOVu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 19:38 |
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| oiaohm | 1995 have the SMM mode alter memory of your OS because it was expecting windows and watch your anything bar windows OS die. | Jun 23 19:38 |
| MinceR | os/2 warp was on sale in 1995 | Jun 23 19:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878396833046945792 | Jun 23 19:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS and Sharing #Leftovers | Jun 23 19:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/idm6rDxExg (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 23 19:39 |
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| MinceR | there were several different "dos"es available also | Jun 23 19:39 |
| cubexyz | yes, I sold OS/2 warp or at least tried to | Jun 23 19:39 |
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| cubexyz | I think I sold one copy | Jun 23 19:39 |
| MinceR | also, maybe os freedom wasn't as highly developed | Jun 23 19:39 |
| MinceR | but it definitely is in decline now | Jun 23 19:39 |
| MinceR | IT is past its best years and so are humans | Jun 23 19:40 |
| cubexyz | there was also BeOS and Minix and a few other ones back then | Jun 23 19:40 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 23 19:41 |
| oiaohm | OS/2 warp is a demo of how zombie a OS can be https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos-5-0-now-available/ | Jun 23 19:41 |
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| cubexyz | and... | Jun 23 19:42 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/freebsd-1995.jpeg | Jun 23 19:42 |
| cubexyz | some ISPs were using that | Jun 23 19:42 |
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| MinceR | "I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I deserve it." -- Jean-Louis Gassée | Jun 23 19:44 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jun 23 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | I was going to report the "some sites render and then disappear" bug in GTKWebkit, but the guy from Red Hat already forwarded my bug report upstream. | Jun 23 19:44 |
| MinceR | and as you can see, even with redhat, peaceful coexistence is impossible. | Jun 23 19:44 |
| oiaohm | Really OS freedom was never that well developed. Cost of OS development is a big problem. | Jun 23 19:44 |
| MinceR | the community solved that problem | Jun 23 19:45 |
| cubexyz | Bell Labs did have it back in... uh... 1975 | Jun 23 19:45 |
| cubexyz | before the licensing rules took over | Jun 23 19:45 |
| cubexyz | many Universities were sharing Unix v6 with each other | Jun 23 19:46 |
| cubexyz | the thing was, you had to have a minicomputer like a PDP-11 | Jun 23 19:46 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: even then different Universities did variations and argued with each other what was right. | Jun 23 19:46 |
| MinceR | well, of course, computers were more expensive back then | Jun 23 19:46 |
| oiaohm | Peace has not existed in OS development for a very long time | Jun 23 19:47 |
| cubexyz | you could buy a Heathkit H-11A though | Jun 23 19:47 |
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| oiaohm | Temporary cease fires yes but never true peace. | Jun 23 19:47 |
| MinceR | looks like people who want to live in a free society will have to fight for their right to own and use general purpose computers | Jun 23 19:47 |
| cubexyz | that was back in 1977, back then I had very little money | Jun 23 19:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the right to repair fight should have been done a long time ago. | Jun 23 19:48 |
| cubexyz | but it was quasi-affordable | Jun 23 19:48 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, back when we had a chance of winning it | Jun 23 19:48 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the mess we are in now is because right to repair is not in law. | Jun 23 19:49 |
| MinceR | then again, the crApple cult would have made it acceptable to end it anyway | Jun 23 19:49 |
| cubexyz | we did kind of win... chromebooks + chromeboxes | Jun 23 19:49 |
| MinceR | never underestimate human stupidity | Jun 23 19:49 |
| cubexyz | that KOes Microsoft | Jun 23 19:49 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: with max 64GB non-replaceable SSD? i kind of want something better. | Jun 23 19:49 |
| cubexyz | you can upgrade the M004U with a big SSD | Jun 23 19:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember early hard drives you could get the source code to the firmware driving the drive. | Jun 23 19:49 |
| cubexyz | you just have to be careful on the model | Jun 23 19:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: greed starts coming in and firmware starts disappearing before Microsoft turns up. | Jun 23 19:50 |
| MinceR | i wonder what happened to standards | Jun 23 19:50 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, remind me which ones | Jun 23 19:50 |
| cubexyz | also of course PDP-11s some didn't even have firmware | Jun 23 19:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the controllers on the harddrives of the PDP were open. Because making the hardware was classed that hard that no one would. | Jun 23 19:51 |
| MinceR | well, for now, we have access to FPGAs | Jun 23 19:51 |
| MinceR | i wonder for how lon | Jun 23 19:51 |
| MinceR | g | Jun 23 19:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not all FPGA can be recoded from first generation because some have fuseable links signing key. | Jun 23 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878399157727318016 | Jun 23 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat and #Fedora Leftovers | Jun 23 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/I6b3s3Y2qr (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 23 19:52 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: this is right to repair issue again. | Jun 23 19:52 |
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| cubexyz | well, try to fix an IBM 1130 and you get that problem again | Jun 23 19:53 |
| cubexyz | once you can't get parts it's game over | Jun 23 19:53 |
| oiaohm | The most modern joke case is the F22 usa most advanced designed fighter. USA cannot make more because they cannot make the avionics. | Jun 23 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878400390731051008 | Jun 23 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 23 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3s9ZQk1PGP (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 23 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #linux #gnu | Jun 23 19:54 |
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| oiaohm | So the USA mil orders a fighter aircraft without proper right to repair. | Jun 23 19:54 |
| cubexyz | probably the most easy to make computer from parts is a z80 based one | Jun 23 19:54 |
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| MinceR | well, now they have a train wreck of a project | Jun 23 19:55 |
| MinceR | F-35 | Jun 23 19:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you mean the F35 joint strike? | Jun 23 19:55 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 23 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173799 | Jun 23 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878400846391898114 | Jun 23 19:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #Witcher2 & #RocketLeague, Ashes of the | Jun 23 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Singularity and More | Jun 23 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Dwe1s75sF0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu | Jun 23 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 23 19:56 |
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| oiaohm | At least it mandated open source and open hardware avionics to all parties buying the aircraft. So the F35 is not quite as bad as the F22. | Jun 23 19:56 |
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| MinceR | :> | Jun 23 19:57 |
| MinceR | not sure if it will ever fly, though | Jun 23 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Instead of running on jet fuel, it runs on pallets of $100 bills. | Jun 23 19:58 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 23 19:58 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is a reason why F22 don't land of aircraft carriers. Because if they have a issue they can be come stuck on the aircraft carrier. | Jun 23 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | The federal government doesn't care, MinceR | Jun 23 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | They can always tax us more, or inflate the money to cover their spending. | Jun 23 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | Other governments are forced to by USD that they don't want to maintain their own currency pegs, to buy oil, and for other reasons. | Jun 23 19:59 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they will once they won't have any air force to defend their asses from the enemies they've made :> | Jun 23 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Do camels fly yet? | Jun 23 20:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Sell them the old stuff, use the new stuff on them. | Jun 23 20:01 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Games: #Witcher2 & #RocketLeague, Ashes of the Singularity...' | Jun 23 20:01 | |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 23 20:03 |
| MinceR | assuming they'll have new stuff | Jun 23 20:03 |
| MinceR | or that they'll be able to manufacture/maintain the old | Jun 23 20:03 |
| oiaohm | http://www.news.com.au/technology/syrian-dogfight-reveals-f35-stealth-fighter-may-be-toothless-tiger/news-story/31bd4208f783da17588045d20aeb5085 yes the F22 is still the best design just at the moment there is no way to build more. | Jun 23 20:04 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Trying to run into as many bugs as possible in Gnome Web. | Jun 23 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully it all gets fixed and Web becomes more of a challenge to Firefox. | Jun 23 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox considers Linux to be a very distant third priority. | Jun 23 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | They leave stuff broken for years. | Jun 23 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Then they put in new features and they're only for Windows. | Jun 23 20:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Grive, #Curlew, and #GtkActionMuxer | Jun 23 20:11 |
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| MinceR | i thought broken was mozilla's new thing | Jun 23 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878405130441420800 | Jun 23 20:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux https://t.co/gXM5FLtWLp (techrights.org) | Jun 23 20:14 |
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| cubexyz | Linux running on FPGA could be interesting | Jun 23 20:21 |
| cubexyz | Digilent has the ZYBO board | Jun 23 20:29 |
| cubexyz | $125 for academic use | Jun 23 20:29 |
| cubexyz | 512 megs, HDMI, VGA, gigabit ethernet, USB etc | Jun 23 20:29 |
| cubexyz | although you could get a chromebox for $200 and that gives you coreboot | Jun 23 20:31 |
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| cubexyz | ok, the SSD is small, but it's upgradeable | Jun 23 20:33 |
| cubexyz | perhaps MinceR would prefer the M107U | Jun 23 20:34 |
| cubexyz | http://www.instructables.com/id/Upgrading-the-Asus-Chromebox-CN60-M004U/ | Jun 23 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.instructables.com | Upgrading the Asus Chromebox CN60 / M004U: 4 Steps (with Pictures) [ http://ur1.ca/r1vql ] | Jun 23 20:35 | |
| MinceR | for now, i think i can build a desktop PC | Jun 23 20:35 |
| MinceR | mobile devices are trickier | Jun 23 20:35 |
| MinceR | though this is somewhat inspiring >> https://boingboing.net/2017/06/16/cyberspace-is-everting.html | Jun 23 20:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | The Commute Deck: a homebrew Unix terminal for tight places / Boing Boing [ http://ur1.ca/r1vqo ] | Jun 23 20:36 | |
| cubexyz | umm | Jun 23 20:37 |
| cubexyz | not very runty :) | Jun 23 20:38 |
| cubexyz | plus the keyboard is split into two parts | Jun 23 20:38 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 23 20:38 |
| MinceR | but it doesn't seem too daunting physically | Jun 23 20:39 |
| MinceR | you can think of the split keyboard as an ergonomic keyboard :> | Jun 23 20:40 |
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| cubexyz | the whole /sys/devices thing is confusing | Jun 23 21:05 |
| cubexyz | man hier doesn't even mention it | Jun 23 21:07 |
| cubexyz | sorry, in slack it does but older vector it doesn't | Jun 23 21:07 |
| cubexyz | oh well, another thing to learn | Jun 23 21:07 |
| cubexyz | evidently the fashion nowadays is to put ACPI info under /sys rather than /proc | Jun 23 21:20 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: proc stands for processes | Jun 23 22:00 |
| cubexyz | well linux used to have /proc/apci/battery/BAT0/state | Jun 23 22:01 |
| cubexyz | so I guess /sys is more appropriate | Jun 23 22:02 |
| oiaohm | sys was made latter. At first everything was stuffed into /proc if it should be in proc or not. | Jun 23 22:03 |
| oiaohm | https://lwn.net/Articles/646617/ proc and sys are both lacking in good documentation. | Jun 23 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A tour of /sys/devices [LWN.net] | Jun 23 22:05 | |
| oiaohm | There is talk about formally writing up all the Linux kernel userspace interfaces. | Jun 23 22:05 |
| cubexyz | I notice that Unix v5 had /usr/sys | Jun 23 22:06 |
| cubexyz | so the kernel code and device driver source was in there | Jun 23 22:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yep the naming of the sysfs is based partly off of old placements from unix. | Jun 23 22:08 |
| cubexyz | all the system source code was in /usr/sys up to v7 | Jun 23 22:10 |
| cubexyz | after that I'm not sure | Jun 23 22:10 |
| cubexyz | probably most of the time the source code doesn't come with the operating system | Jun 23 22:11 |
| cubexyz | not sure exactly what /sys is | Jun 23 22:12 |
| cubexyz | they talk about the sysfs filesystem, but that's rather vague | Jun 23 22:12 |
| cubexyz | yes, in v8 that's still true: the system source is in /usr/sys | Jun 23 22:15 |
| cubexyz | I know in openbsd it doesn't come automatically with system source code | Jun 23 22:15 |
| cubexyz | and /usr/mdec has persisted in the BSDs | Jun 23 22:18 |
| cubexyz | mdec being a throw-back to magnetic dec bootstrap loaders | Jun 23 22:19 |
| cubexyz | although technically it could be a boot loader for a floppy drive, hard drive, etc | Jun 23 22:21 |
| oiaohm | https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/sysfs.txt | Jun 23 22:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: devices directory is not very formal. It for where devices want to expose options. | Jun 23 22:31 |
| cubexyz | great, now I have to figure out what a kobject is | Jun 23 22:31 |
| cubexyz | I assume sysfs is a linux thing? | Jun 23 22:34 |
| cubexyz | ah, in BSD they have sysctl instead | Jun 23 22:35 |
| cubexyz | and confusingly, there's sysctl in linux as well | Jun 23 22:37 |
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| DaemonFC | Well, it looks like the fix for one of the bugs that I reported will be pushed out for Gnome Web 3.24.3. | Jun 24 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | The upstream maintainer says it looks trivial to fix so it should make it in time. | Jun 24 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757824#c8 | Jun 24 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.gnome.org | Bug 757824 – Port the adblocker to the Content Blockers API | Jun 24 00:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer 2017-06-24 04:24:26 UTC | Jun 24 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | Hello, | Jun 24 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | I was reading the Roadmap to 3.26 and it seems like there could be an opportunity to solve two problems at once here. Once Web is transitioned to the Content Blocking API, Web could subscribe to Spam404 and Malware Domains Adblock Plus Lists as part of the "Block dangerous websites using a safe browsing API" feature. | Jun 24 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | That could complement using something like Google Safe Browsing by making sure that if Google misses something that are on these lists, Web can't load the site anyway due to the content block. Firefox can be configured this way. | Jun 24 00:25 |
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| DaemonFC | https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/microsoft-should-shore-up-windows-10-ss-security-then-offer-it-to-everyone/ | Jun 24 01:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Windows 10 S security brought down by, of course, Word macros | Ars Technica | Jun 24 01:14 | |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 S has already been successfully attacked by MS Word macro viruses. | Jun 24 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 24 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 24 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 S has already been successfully attacked by MS Word macro viruses. | Jun 24 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has segmented the market badly enough that the Apple "Choose a Vista" commercial could be dusted off. | Jun 24 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 S has been crippled to a point where it's even more useless than Windows XP Starter Edition was in its time. | Jun 24 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | Why not get a Galago Pro or something and get a 3 pound Linux machine that runs actual software for not a lot of money instead? | Jun 24 01:18 |
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| schestowitz | [23:42] <cubexyz> rubik's cube | Jun 24 01:41 |
| schestowitz | I was always fascinated with your cube obsession | Jun 24 01:41 |
| schestowitz | Reminded me of Edward Snowden, as depicted in the movie "Snowden" | Jun 24 01:42 |
| schestowitz | I suggest you watch it if you have not | Jun 24 01:42 |
| schestowitz | *not | Jun 24 01:42 |
| schestowitz | [00:00] <MinceR> much of human society and technology relies on IT, which is being destroyed from under our feet | Jun 24 01:42 |
| schestowitz | yes | Jun 24 01:42 |
| schestowitz | exactly, more so over time | Jun 24 01:42 |
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| TechD | oiaohm: schestowitz https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterhigh/2017/06/20/a-recycling-entrepreneur-has-been-sentenced-to-15-months-in-prison/ | Jun 24 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Forbes Welcome | Jun 24 02:39 | |
| schestowitz | same person? | Jun 24 02:39 |
| schestowitz | or another story? | Jun 24 02:39 |
| TechD | oiaohm: schestowitz if you know Lawyers in Florida, who can help with the Appeal, please let me or him know | Jun 24 02:39 |
| schestowitz | prison is not for rich people... | Jun 24 02:39 |
| TechD | schestowitz: same story | Jun 24 02:40 |
| schestowitz | prison is for rich people to put poorer people in | Jun 24 02:40 |
| schestowitz | ridiculous | Jun 24 02:40 |
| schestowitz | and waste of federal budget | Jun 24 02:40 |
| schestowitz | housing prisoners for copying MS MALWARE | Jun 24 02:40 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft should be thankful to him | Jun 24 02:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.technewsworld.com/story/commentary/64902.htm | Jun 24 02:41 |
| schestowitz | "“So, Microsoft actively looks the other way as people pirate its software. It builds its market share that way, and lets people get used to the idea of having Windows at a certain price.”" | Jun 24 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.technewsworld.com/story/commentary/64902.htm ) | Jun 24 02:41 | |
| schestowitz | “No less than Bill Gates himself said in a recent Fortune article that Microsoft competes better against Linux in China when there's piracy than when there isn't." | Jun 24 02:41 |
| TechD | schestowitz: it really comes down to the judge NOT understanding that the Dell Restore CD's != fully working COA'd retail copies of Windows | Jun 24 02:41 |
| schestowitz | "It's easier for our software to compete with Linux when there's piracy than when there's not." | Jun 24 02:42 |
| schestowitz | ---Bill Gates | Jun 24 02:42 |
| TechD | i really think this can win in Appeals | Jun 24 02:42 |
| schestowitz | yes, should be | Jun 24 02:42 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about some cases like this before | Jun 24 02:42 |
| schestowitz | recyclers | Jun 24 02:42 |
| schestowitz | let me do a search | Jun 24 02:42 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/01/01/ms-sends-partners-to-jail/ | Jun 24 02:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Sends Its ‘Partners’ to Prison | Techrights | Jun 24 02:43 | |
| schestowitz | " It is becoming clearer that companies should refurbish with GNU/Linux, never Windows" http://techrights.org/2014/02/03/microsoft-bermuda/ | Jun 24 02:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Amid Financial Misconduct Microsoft Fights Against Basic Tech Rights, Obviously in an Attempt to Squeeze Out More Money | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/r1x76 ] | Jun 24 02:45 | |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft has commenced a scheme that will make Windows XP accessible to buyers of refurbished personal computers in Nigerian." | Jun 24 02:45 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2008/12/22/microsoft-addicting-dumping/ | Jun 24 02:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | B.A.D. Microsoft | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/r1x79 ] | Jun 24 02:45 | |
| schestowitz | I used to write more about this | Jun 24 02:45 |
| schestowitz | don't like the Mafia (Microsoft) get away with IMPRISONING the people who HELP Microsoft SPREAD its MALWARE | Jun 24 02:46 |
| schestowitz | It's just ethically crazy | Jun 24 02:46 |
| TechD | schestowitz: that's the even bigger problem, that they turned it into Criminal, instead of Civil (which is harder to fight) | Jun 24 02:46 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft should be the one with execs sent to prison, e.g. over http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Jun 24 02:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g1zod ] | Jun 24 02:47 | |
| schestowitz | and spying without consent http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Jun 24 02:47 |
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| TechD | Do you know someone in the EFF, who can help? | Jun 24 02:57 |
| schestowitz | it's not EFF turf | Jun 24 02:58 |
| TechD | schestowitz: oh, and you can post that ForbesArticle, if u want, thanks for waiting for it to come out :) | Jun 24 02:59 |
| TechD | schestowitz: still, the EFF might be able to give a referral, of someone who can help.. | Jun 24 03:00 |
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| schestowitz | [08:00] <TechD> schestowitz: still, the EFF might be able to give a referral, of someone who can help.. | Jun 24 03:47 |
| schestowitz | I don't think that's what EFF does | Jun 24 03:47 |
| TechD | k, thanks anyway | Jun 24 03:47 |
| TechD | anyone have any ideas on how to help? | Jun 24 03:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #chromebook | Jun 24 04:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | The What, Why and Wow! Behind the #CoreOS #Container | Jun 24 04:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The What, Why and Wow! Behind the CoreOS Container Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 24 04:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Makes It Easy to Install Unity7 on Ubuntu | Jun 24 04:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Makes It Easy to Install Unity7 on Ubuntu 17.10, GNOME Remains Default | Tux Machines | Jun 24 04:23 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-tech-idUSKBN19E0XB the idea of total closed source is getting harder. | Jun 24 07:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Professional Typography in #LibreOffice and Italian | Jun 24 08:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Professional Typography in LibreOffice and Italian Migration | Tux Machines | Jun 24 08:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How Vigo Council migrated to Linux | Jun 24 09:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Vigo Council migrated to Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 24 09:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Top 10 best Linux apps of 2017 https://t.co/n4cYUVPrvd | Jun 24 09:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 24 10:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/YFCzmoey2R (www.tuxmachines.org) #vigo | Jun 24 10:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Loss-Aversion | Jun 24 10:41 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6j61k0/its_done_i_have_converted/ | Jun 24 11:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | It's done. I have converted. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r1z70 ] | Jun 24 11:05 | |
| schestowitz | "I just finished installing Linux Mint. It took some time to make the jump but I don't think I'll regret it." | Jun 24 11:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MFW i find a really good song and i have to share it with my wife - GIF on Imgur | Jun 24 11:16 | |
| schestowitz | I didn't notice the link on the page, but when I clicked on it, it went to her Twitch account so I guess we can assume her game streaming on Twitch now? | Jun 24 11:39 |
| schestowitz | I'm just excited to see her come back she was one of the main reasons why I got into Linux. | Jun 24 11:39 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6iyufu/nixie_pixel_back_im_not_sure_if_shes_coming_back/ | Jun 24 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Nixie Pixel back?! I'm not sure if shes coming back to YouTube but she put this up on her Facebook page and it does have a Linux logo! : linux | Jun 24 11:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #ChatOps, #CoolRetroTerm, #Calibre, | Jun 24 12:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #BrightnessController, #gnuplot 5.2, #Nix, and #Gravit | Jun 24 12:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: ChatOps, Cool-Retro-Term, Calibre, Brightness Controller, gnuplot 5.2, Nix, and Gravit | Tux Machines | Jun 24 12:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #DNS #Typosquatting, #Encryption & #Firewalls, #Vista10 | Jun 24 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Compromised, #StackClash, #CherryBlossom, #Russia and | Jun 24 12:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Cross-compilation, #DLanguage in #GCC, and Complexity | Jun 24 12:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cross-compilation, D Language in GCC, and Complexity | Tux Machines | Jun 24 12:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/878651867408068608 | Jun 24 12:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #howto #gnu #linux #unix #cli | Jun 24 12:32 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #ChatOps, #CoolRetroTerm, #Calibre, #BrightnessController, #gnuplot 5.2, #Nix,...' | Jun 24 12:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878652153853874177 | Jun 24 12:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Advocacy of Desktop #GNU #Linux and Introduction to | Jun 24 12:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Advocacy of Desktop GNU/Linux and Introduction to Libreboot T400 | Tux Machines | Jun 24 12:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #PyCharm IDE and #LWN Coverage From the 2017 #Python | Jun 24 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Language Summit https://t.co/BY7vfo2bI1 | Jun 24 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #programming | Jun 24 12:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878654705756450816 | Jun 24 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: #ChatOps, #CoolRetroTerm, #Calibre, | Jun 24 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #BrightnessController, #gnuplot 5.2, #Nix, and #Gravit | Jun 24 12:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: ChatOps, Cool-Retro-Term, Calibre, Brightness Controller, gnuplot 5.2, Nix, and Gravit | Tux Machines | Jun 24 12:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #DNS #Typosquatting, #Encryption & #Firewalls, #Vista10 | Jun 24 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Compromised, #StackClash, #CherryBlossom, #Russia and | Jun 24 12:47 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/C4CfwGf.jpg | Jun 24 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757824 | Jun 24 13:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.gnome.org | Bug 757824 – Port the adblocker to the Content Blockers API | Jun 24 13:09 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR | Jun 24 13:09 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: | Jun 24 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer 2017-06-24 17:08:42 UTC | Jun 24 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | Hmm, I guess I was wrong about what the actual goal of this was to do. | Jun 24 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | Back to the subject of blocking content, Webkit/Blink browsers apparently have some sort of bug where a really awful thing called "Ad Choices" can detect that you're blocking the ads and load ads that are even worse than the ones that were blocked. (Taboola-style, only worse than Taboola. Taboola is also currently unblocked by Gnome Web.), so if the new method of content blocking can defeat Ad Choice *and* taboola, then that would be the | Jun 24 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | gold standard, at least from my perspective. | Jun 24 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | uBlock-Origin works around the bug that enables Ad Choices with a helper extension called uBlock Origin Extra whose additional goal goes into defeating hostile activity from websites in general, such as disguising third party requests as first party ones, which gets around the cookie policy of the browser, sites evading the blocking policy by (ab)using WebRTC, etc. | Jun 24 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | The next problem is...sites detecting that ads are blocked and displaying a nag screen or locking the user out entirely. So far, I've been able to break the majority of these blockades with browser configured with uBlock Origin, uBlock Extra, Tampermonkey extension, and Anti-Adblock Reek userscript+ABP style filter. | Jun 24 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | The web is getting to a point where if you want to turn off advertising, it's like the children's song about the old lady who swallowed a fly, and then swallowed the spider to catch the fly, then a bird to catch the spider, then a cat to catch the bird, then a dog to catch the cat.... | Jun 24 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | Is there really a way to manage all of this stuff with a single checkbox? If there is, I'm not seeing it, and Google plans to use Chrome as a protection racket (by blocking ads not approved by their sockpuppet "Coalition for Better Ads), and then roll out "Funding Choices", which is another anti-adblock platform. Could this be a losing battle against ads/trackers? Of course it could be. Google has the resources to keep Funding Choices | Jun 24 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | working faster than Anti-Adblock Reek or anything else can catch up to it. So, what is the scope of ad blocking in Gnome Web? Obviously simple is good, but simple leaves out a ton of cases where Evil Inc. can game the rules to get a foot in the door. | Jun 24 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | I do like the work that gorhill has done with uBlock Origin. It's so much more than a simple adblocker. He's put a lot of work into catching and defeating corner cases. In one example, he's replaced things like Google Analytics with a "neutered script" that gets loaded instead, with the minimum API that problem websites expect in order to stop them from failing. The guy is unstoppable. :) | Jun 24 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | We're going to need something powerful to keep up here. | Jun 24 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | .... | Jun 24 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | We need something more powerful than a checkbox to block ads. | Jun 24 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | The web is only getting nastier thanks to the evil Facebook+Google alliance. | Jun 24 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/878661188128735232 | Jun 24 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Debian #Linux 9.0.x and #Skolelinux Leftovers | Jun 24 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/etHHyGALPR (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 24 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 24 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 13:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Linux 9.0.x and Skolelinux Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 24 13:10 | |
| MinceR | this is the first time i hear about a facebook+google alliance | Jun 24 13:11 |
| MinceR | did Fuckerberg's love affair with m$ end? | Jun 24 13:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878661575581868033 | Jun 24 13:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE/Qt: Krita, #GCompris, #CompilerExplorer and Qt | Jun 24 13:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/wSuPfSOBW1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #qt | Jun 24 13:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 24 13:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 13:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE/Qt: Krita, GCompris, Compiler Explorer and Qt | Tux Machines | Jun 24 13:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9509470 | Jun 24 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Coming off a strong quarter, #RedHat CEO Jim Whitehurst talks public clouds and containers https://www.geekwire.com/2017/coming-off-strong-quarter-red-hat-ceo-jim-whitehurst-talks-public-clouds-containers/ from #microsoft oriented 'media' | Jun 24 13:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Coming off a strong quarter, Red Hat CEO Jim Whitehurst talks public clouds and containers – GeekWire [ http://ur1.ca/r202x ] | Jun 24 13:17 | |
| MinceR | has he also mentioned his plan to destroy unix? | Jun 24 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878662467890667520 | Jun 24 13:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Cross-compilation, #DLanguage in #GCC, and Complexity | Jun 24 13:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/MCPeRWr9mT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 13:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #programming #gnu #compiler | Jun 24 13:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 13:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cross-compilation, D Language in GCC, and Complexity | Tux Machines | Jun 24 13:21 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://lupinix.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/improving-qtwebkit-security-for-fedora.html | Jun 24 13:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lupinix.blogspot.co.uk | lupinix: Improving QtWebKit security for Fedora [ http://ur1.ca/r205e ] | Jun 24 13:25 | |
| schestowitz | juts now... | Jun 24 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Coalition for Better Ads = Sockpuppet astroturf group representing Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and other ad and spyware companies. | Jun 24 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878664256455155712 | Jun 24 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Advocacy of Desktop #GNU #Linux and Introduction to | Jun 24 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Libreboot T400 | Jun 24 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yysxWNrcWM (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 13:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Advocacy of Desktop GNU/Linux and Introduction to Libreboot T400 | Tux Machines | Jun 24 13:28 | |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 24 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/878666173516308480 | Jun 24 13:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE/Qt: Krita, #GCompris, #CompilerExplorer and Qt | Jun 24 13:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/wSuPfSOBW1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #qt | Jun 24 13:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 24 13:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 13:31 | |
| MinceR | has it ever occurred to them to just use non-animated plain text ads without iframes? | Jun 24 13:31 |
| MinceR | (also without javascript) | Jun 24 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 24 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 24 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | Coalition for Better Ads = Sockpuppet astroturf group representing Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and other ad and spyware companies. | Jun 24 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | Don't fall for it. Write your state's Attorney General and ask them to investigate for cartel/antitrust behavior. | Jun 24 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | Talking Points: | Jun 24 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | Google Chrome will have an "ad filter" next year that blocks ads that compete with the "Coalition"'s guidelines. | Jun 24 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | Google will offer websites "Funding Choices" which demands that users "lower their shields" and potentially infect their computers with malicious software served by ads and let malicious tracking scripts follow them around the web, or they will have to give up trying to use the site or pay a per-page fee, of which much of it goes to Google. | Jun 24 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm filing a complaint against Google with the state of Illinois. | Jun 24 13:34 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/r/funny/iqgPNeq | Jun 24 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Friends with benefits - GIF on Imgur | Jun 24 13:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878666707866460160 | Jun 24 13:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #PyCharm IDE and #LWN Coverage From the 2017 #Python | Jun 24 13:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Language Summit https://t.co/BY7vfo2bI1 | Jun 24 13:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #programming | Jun 24 13:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 13:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PyCharm IDE and LWN Coverage From the 2017 Python Language Summit | Tux Machines | Jun 24 13:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878670425726779392 | Jun 24 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu: #Ubuntu Server, Desktop and Icons/Themes | Jun 24 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7OMAQkbTTb (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 24 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 24 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 13:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: Ubuntu Server, Desktop and Icons/Themes | Tux Machines | Jun 24 13:47 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/xicaj | Jun 24 13:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If you have a problem with this "manspreading" thing, I got this for you. - Album on Imgur | Jun 24 13:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu: #Ubuntu Server, Desktop and Icons/Themes https://t.co/7OMAQkbTTb...' | Jun 24 13:51 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/hLoJZ | Jun 24 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I think I'll skip work and keep watching this... - Album on Imgur | Jun 24 13:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @VaulsteinR favourited '#PyCharm IDE and #LWN Coverage From the 2017...' | Jun 24 13:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @dominoisdead favourited 'Ubuntu: #Ubuntu Server, Desktop and Icons/Themes https://t.co/7OMAQkbTTb...' | Jun 24 13:59 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The new Firefox Focus browser on Android is just a Chrome webview with ad/tracking filters. | Jun 24 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | I was wondering why it was running so much smoother than Firefox for Android does. | Jun 24 14:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878679868220858368 | Jun 24 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora: Design Team, #QtWebKit #Security, Badges, and | Jun 24 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Multimedia | Jun 24 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5QPYWdeWkG (www.tuxmachines.org) #swpats | Jun 24 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #mp3 #mpv #plex #design #redhat | Jun 24 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 14:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: Design Team, QtWebKit Security, Badges, and Multimedia | Tux Machines | Jun 24 14:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fedora: Design Team, #QtWebKit #Security, Badges, and Multimedia...' | Jun 24 14:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @YourDesignWrld favourited '#Fedora: Design Team, #QtWebKit #Security, Badges, and Multimedia...' | Jun 24 14:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878681275757993984 | Jun 24 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased | Jun 24 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on #Debian 9 "Stretch" | Jun 24 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/AN775XmCMI (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi | Jun 24 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 24 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation's Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 24 14:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @calcaware retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased...' | Jun 24 14:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @CIA See @JohnKiriakou - sent to...' | Jun 24 14:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden @CIA See @JohnKiriakou -...' | Jun 24 14:30 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/5X5WX | Jun 24 14:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fun facts: Saturday evening edition - Album on Imgur | Jun 24 14:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased...' | Jun 24 14:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Actually, there are issues with Signal, esp....' | Jun 24 14:42 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/ericevenchick/status/877919955945181184 | Jun 24 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ericevenchick: Typo of the Day: "they need to satanize this input." | Jun 24 14:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden Actually, there are issues with...' | Jun 24 14:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/878685979426643972 | Jun 24 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased | Jun 24 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 on #Debian 9 "Stretch" | Jun 24 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/AN775XmCMI (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi | Jun 24 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 24 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 14:57 | |
| MinceR | http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/06/20/11/15/isis-themed-fake-lego-sets-exported-globally-from-china | Jun 24 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ISIS-themed fake Lego sets exported globally from China - 9news.com.au | Jun 24 14:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden PGP is demonstrably more secure than a...' | Jun 24 15:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | So I got the Chromium Media Libs Freeworld package from RPM Fusion and installed it into Fedora's Chromium browser. | Jun 24 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | Now all the codecs work but there's still no Widevine or Flash, which I guess is fine. | Jun 24 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | Tried Spotify Web Player and songs play for 9 seconds, figure out that Widevine isn't there, and stop. | Jun 24 15:13 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange @wikileaks HRC bragged about appealing to the...' | Jun 24 15:25 | |
| DaemonFC | https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=9984636 | Jun 24 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-koji.fedoraproject.org | chromium-libs-59.0.3071.104-1.fc26.x86_64.rpm | RPM Info | koji | Jun 24 15:26 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, Chromium in Fedora now bundles 318 private copies of libraries. | Jun 24 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | That's an improvement. Used to be over 400. | Jun 24 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 24 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | No wonder it takes over 400 MB of space to install it. | Jun 24 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome is much worse. Over 550 MB. | Jun 24 15:27 |
| schestowitz | holy crap | Jun 24 15:29 |
| MinceR | http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/23/middleeast/turkey-to-stop-teaching-evolution/index.html | Jun 24 15:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Turkey to stop teaching evolution in high school - CNN.com | Jun 24 15:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Building Chromium is not easy. | Jun 24 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is pretty easy. Chromium is a nightmare. | Jun 24 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why Tom Callaway took it on as a hobby. | Jun 24 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | He's been slowly improving Chromium to be less of a packaging guidelines violation on Fedora, but it still required an exception from the guidelines by Fedora. | Jun 24 15:59 |
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| DaemonFC | To say that Chromium is a mess is to put it mildly. This is what happens when a bunch of people with backgrounds in Java and Microsoft Windows get together to build a program. | Jun 24 16:00 |
| MinceR | http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/comics/irreg1582.jpg | Jun 24 16:06 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks You need a news site or blog....' | Jun 24 16:09 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 24 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 24 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | I was wondering why there was an extension in Fedora's version of Chromium that adds "Fedora" to the user agent. | Jun 24 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | If Netflix decides that you're not using "Chrome" or if you try to view it once without Widevine and it fails, it sets a cookie so that it never works again, even if you change your user agent and/or install Widevine, unless you delete the cookie. If you don't, it tells you to download Microsoft Silverlight, which is more or less abandoned on Windows and never worked in Linux, not really, without the Pipelight hack (Pipelight | Jun 24 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | plug-in+Patched Wine+ Silverlight = BARF). | Jun 24 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | I was looking at the release notes. Apparently, the extension doesn't add "Fedora" to the user agent for some sites, including Netflix. | Jun 24 16:12 |
| MinceR | don't use NETFUX and don't pay them | Jun 24 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They ported The Witcher 2 to Linux, but the release notes say that it requires an Nvidia card and a recent version of the proprietary driver and it will refuse to run on AMD or Intel no matter what. | Jun 24 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | Glad I saw that before I bought it. | Jun 24 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | I hear developers say good things about Nvidia's OpenGL implementation, but the driver is a bitch to deal with. | Jun 24 16:15 |
| MinceR | i managed to get Super Grub2 Disk to boot by copying it into SystemRescueCd's floppy image directory and making a menu entry for it :> | Jun 24 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | It breaks your system in many ways. It's hard to actually live with. | Jun 24 16:15 |
| MinceR | well, i've seen it cause many crashes | Jun 24 16:15 |
| MinceR | the nvidia blob, that is | Jun 24 16:15 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/resume http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1496673761-20170605after%20%281%29.png | Jun 24 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Resume | Jun 24 16:16 | |
| DaemonFC | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/chromium-widevine | Jun 24 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.debian.org | Debian -- Details of package chromium-widevine in stretch [ http://ur1.ca/r21dt ] | Jun 24 16:20 | |
| DaemonFC | So Debian won't give you wifi firmware by default, but they packaged Widevine. :) | Jun 24 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | That certainly makes sense. | Jun 24 16:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 24 16:22 |
| MinceR | they'll also happily give you mono | Jun 24 16:22 |
| MinceR | and they force systemd on you | Jun 24 16:22 |
| MinceR | maybe they replaced the DFSG with rolling dice | Jun 24 16:23 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks You need a news site...' | Jun 24 16:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You are killing people with "trumpcare". All...' | Jun 24 16:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @MSNBC Saying Wikileaks is "like" NYTimes or...' | Jun 24 16:56 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Hmm, break his wifi but mke it really easy to install Widevine. | Jun 24 17:04 |
| MinceR | DRM is probably "modern" | Jun 24 17:05 |
| MinceR | having network connectivity, not so much | Jun 24 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | DFSG is really weak. It lets them put nonfree packages in and call them contrib or non-free and technically they're not part of Debian but you would be hard pressed to know the difference. | Jun 24 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | Widevine support in Fedora's version of Firefox should be another reason the FSF doesn't recommend Fedora. It's turned off by default, which means that Fedora technically has no nonfree software (excluding firmware), but the preference remains and most users will turn it on to deal with media that doesn't play. | Jun 24 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yes, get rid of Netflix. Just use pirate streaming sites without DRM. | Jun 24 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | Fuck Netflix. They shouldn't have broken their website in Free web browsers if they wanted subscribers. | Jun 24 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | The fact that entire seasons of Netflix shows are streaming on a pirate website a month before Netflix adds them shows how well Widevine is working. | Jun 24 17:08 |
| MinceR | i don't mind having nonfree packages as long as i can choose whether or not to have them installed | Jun 24 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | The pirates just slip the files out of one of the production companies on a thumb drive. | Jun 24 17:09 |
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| DaemonFC | So Netflix has lost before the files could even be posted, which makes Widevine unimportant. | Jun 24 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | Even if Widevine does interfere with copying, people will find another way to copy the files. They'll figure out a weakness in Widevine or rip the Blu Ray disc. | Jun 24 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | So Widevine is like locking the barn door after the horse has bolted. | Jun 24 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | It only hurts paying customers of Netflix. | Jun 24 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | Even worse, for them, it encourages paying customers to cancel and use streaming sites that work instead. | Jun 24 17:11 |
| MinceR | (oh, also if not much depends on them on the long run) | Jun 24 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Widevine will probably end up swallowing most of the web. | Jun 24 17:16 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 24 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | Since Google doesn't charge licensing fees, sites will use it because they can. | Jun 24 17:17 |
| MinceR | tbl put the rubberstamp on it, now it's "standard" | Jun 24 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Surprised that all of Youtube doesn't use it already. | Jun 24 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | That Youtube TV thing almost certainly does. | Jun 24 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | Youtube TV sounds like what Sling TV already has only more expensive for fewer channels in the basic package and no option for HBO. | Jun 24 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | "DVR like you never have before. Never run out of space!" | Jun 24 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | Well, pirate streaming sites never cause me to run out of space either, and the pirates have edited all the commercial breaks out so I don't have to fast forward anything. | Jun 24 17:20 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 24 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | You mean I can get what I already have, only with fewer programming choices and 18 minutes of commercials for each hour? | Jun 24 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | For only $50 more per month than I pay now? | Jun 24 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Woohoo! | Jun 24 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Lack of Widevine has some practical upsides. | Jun 24 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | Some websites, like NBC, Widevine their annoying autoplay videos. | Jun 24 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | Without Widevine they can't start. | Jun 24 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | Also, any potential malware that depends on it being there won't work, of course. | Jun 24 17:24 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 24 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | I wrote a long letter to Attorney General Lisa Madigan's office about Google abusing their majority marketshare to commit a litany of abuses against web users. | Jun 24 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | She went after Facebook, Jimmy Johns, Lenovo, and some others and got them to agree to settlements. | Jun 24 17:27 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Did you flush again?' | Jun 24 17:31 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/5EwFPG1.jpg | Jun 24 17:44 |
| *XRevan86 saw Richard Dawkins today. | Jun 24 17:49 | |
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| schestowitz | IRL? | Jun 24 17:59 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: did he visit Russia? | Jun 24 17:59 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: yep | Jun 24 17:59 |
| schestowitz | cool! | Jun 24 18:00 |
| schestowitz | I like his debating skills | Jun 24 18:00 |
| schestowitz | although he comes across as too shrill sometimes | Jun 24 18:00 |
| schestowitz | strident | Jun 24 18:00 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It was a short 1 hour event, he did a lecture, then three picked questions from a website were given to him | Jun 24 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | not very debate-inducing :) | Jun 24 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | two questions were religion-related | Jun 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Did he make fun of the Orthodox church and call Putin a "homo"? or a "Pussy"? Did he instigate a Riot? | Jun 24 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: He did call Islam evil | Jun 24 18:02 |
| XRevan86 | so… no | Jun 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz | religion can be evil, Islam more so | Jun 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz | it's taking things further, esp. in practice | Jun 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz | but Putin like Islam-bashing | Jun 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz | his RT/Sputkin channels like to stir up hatred towards Muslims in EU | Jun 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz | I reckon they want to destabilise the EU/NATO from the inside this way | Jun 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz | no need for nukes/M.A.D. | Jun 24 18:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: In his lecture he was making planned economy analogies also. And they were very careful and considerate %). | Jun 24 18:05 |
| MinceR | (potentially disturbing imagery) http://imgur.com/gallery/u9tjd | Jun 24 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The nature is wild af - Album on Imgur | Jun 24 18:05 | |
| MinceR | Dawkins lives too dangerously | Jun 24 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | Although this reminds me that yesterday Milonov demanded the Dawkins lecture to be revoked %) | Jun 24 18:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: so I won't click it | Jun 24 18:07 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 24 18:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, he runs the risk of going into hiding | Jun 24 18:07 |
| schestowitz | like Rushdie | Jun 24 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Rush! Die!! | Jun 24 18:07 |
| XRevan86 | https://politros.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/3-9.jpg this guy | Jun 24 18:08 |
| XRevan86 | and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitaly_Milonov | Jun 24 18:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Vitaly Milonov - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r229q ] | Jun 24 18:08 | |
| MinceR | yet another christian taliban | Jun 24 18:09 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/herodfel/status/878736944322101248 | Jun 24 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@herodfel: @schestowitz Ahhh.. He says that wherever he goes...including in the UK. Pretty lame attempt at point scoring... | Jun 24 18:14 | |
| DaemonFC | I got out of EAFE stocks with a 7% gain over about 2 months before it started falling again. | Jun 24 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Put it back into an S&P 500 index. | Jun 24 18:16 |
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| DaemonFC | The S&P was at about the same point where it was when I left it, but has been trending upwards again. | Jun 24 18:17 |
| MinceR | well, if he dared to say that christianity and judaism is about as evil as islam, he would have been killed | Jun 24 18:18 |
| MinceR | which is why he shouldn't go to such fascist shitholes | Jun 24 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | I don't necessarily see buy and hold as a good strategy for international stocks right now. | Jun 24 18:18 |
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| DaemonFC | If the Dollar beats the Euro back into the ground, they could become a good value again, and that's a distinct possibility. | Jun 24 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | The EU is being destabilized. The Brexit thing and having to haul around the PIGS is really undermining it much more than Russia could ever hope for. | Jun 24 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | An election in France isn't going to fix that. | Jun 24 18:20 |
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| DaemonFC | Germany likes the Euro because it suits their needs fine. | Jun 24 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | Trade surplus....exporting unemployment.... | Jun 24 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | When the Eurozone fails, they can just reintroduce the Mark. | Jun 24 18:21 |
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| DaemonFC | They have an incentive to keep the Euro going as long as possible, even if they have to fund destructive bailouts, because it's a small price to pay for their own exorbitant privilege. | Jun 24 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Well, he called all religions evil, but Islam as the worst, to be more exact. | Jun 24 18:24 |
| XRevan86 | like Christianity in Medieval times (also his words) | Jun 24 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | When they're done sucking the guts out of the surrounding countries, they'll be fine. The Mark will be accepted and strong even as other countries try to reintroduce separate drastically devalued currencies to try to fund their debt loads and current account deficits. | Jun 24 18:24 |
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| DaemonFC | I doubt Hungary will ever bother to join the Euro? What possible incentive would they have to do that? They can just keep managing the Forint and government budget deficits to where they never comply with the Maastricht Treaty. | Jun 24 18:26 |
| MinceR | hungary will probably keep falling further and further behind the requirements as the nazis fuck up the economy even more | Jun 24 18:26 |
| MinceR | maybe these morons believe they can compete with red china at cheap slave labor if only they manage to lower wages enough | Jun 24 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | Same thing going on here, MinceR | Jun 24 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | Red states. | Jun 24 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, If $7.25 an hour doesn't work, you can always try slave labor. Work prisoners for 50 cents an hour in Commissary funds. The Republicans can always find more people smoking pot to lock up forever. | Jun 24 18:31 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 24 18:32 |
| MinceR | have they started having their slaves breed in prison yet? | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | No, they do that enough on the outside. | Jun 24 18:36 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 24 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | They parole people long enough to get pregnant sometimes. | Jun 24 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | Then they do something out of desperation, go back in, give birth in prison. | Jun 24 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | State takes the baby and puts it in a foster home where it'll get abused and end up in prison later. | Jun 24 18:37 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: udev works without systemd init still. But you do run into the same issues with udev and systemd as you did with udev and sysvinit when you attempt to use some other init. udev rules file containing settings for the default init system. | Jun 18 00:34 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: reality is a lot of problems have not changed but now that systemd is used people are yelling about them yet still not fixing them. | Jun 18 00:35 |
| MinceR | they made some problems more difficult to fix and they set the house on fire | Jun 18 00:37 |
| oiaohm | Really they have not made the problem harder fix they are just now pulled out from under the rug they have been swept under. But of course now they want to shove them back under another rug. | Jun 18 00:39 |
| oiaohm | that other rug is blaming systemd for existing faults. | Jun 18 00:39 |
| oiaohm | Instead of going that was busted. | Jun 18 00:39 |
| oiaohm | and working out a proper fix. | Jun 18 00:39 |
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| MinceR | my point is, things would be easier to fix if one did not also have to fix the things they broke with forcing systemd into the system | Jun 18 00:41 |
| MinceR | all these superfluous dependencies they've put into place to make it difficult for the user to have their own way, to retain some control | Jun 18 00:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: my problem is the reality is systemd broke very little. | Jun 18 00:41 |
| MinceR | and all that | Jun 18 00:41 |
| MinceR | no, your problem is that you don't perceive the reality | Jun 18 00:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: majority that is put on systemd was already broken. | Jun 18 00:41 |
| MinceR | you're infatuated with this crap because apparently slowlaris also did some of that shit | Jun 18 00:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: like how do you start a service from udev that all init systems support. | Jun 18 00:42 |
| MinceR | i don't know why you believe slowlaris to be the perfect unix | Jun 18 00:42 |
| MinceR | it isn't | Jun 18 00:42 |
| oiaohm | I never said that. | Jun 18 00:42 |
| MinceR | why do you worry about that? make udev flexible so it will run a command | Jun 18 00:42 |
| MinceR | then you specify a command that does the right thing with your service manager | Jun 18 00:42 |
| oiaohm | I said systemd was modeled after the way solaris did stuff. | Jun 18 00:42 |
| MinceR | it isn't rocket surgery | Jun 18 00:42 |
| MinceR | yeah, you kept bringing it up | Jun 18 00:42 |
| oiaohm | and you keep on saying modeled after windows what is incorrect. | Jun 18 00:43 |
| oiaohm | And you raised the solaris point | Jun 18 00:43 |
| oiaohm | so who bring this crap up. | Jun 18 00:43 |
| MinceR | in fact, there already _is_ a pretty standard command for starting/stopping services that works on systemd and also on sane systems | Jun 18 00:44 |
| MinceR | the service command | Jun 18 00:44 |
| MinceR | so you can just use that | Jun 18 00:44 |
| MinceR | no need to make up problems, your cult has made more than enough real ones | Jun 18 00:44 |
| oiaohm | service command is sysvinit items like runit don't have it. | Jun 18 00:44 |
| oiaohm | So do it the sysvinit way or else right MinceR | Jun 18 00:44 |
| MinceR | it's probably trivial to provide for them | Jun 18 00:45 |
| MinceR | i doubt it's "the sysvinit way" | Jun 18 00:45 |
| MinceR | in fact, the first time i used it was on a non-sysvinit system | Jun 18 00:45 |
| MinceR | because there was no /etc/init.d | Jun 18 00:45 |
| MinceR | and i shrugged, guessing they just put it elsewhere, like /sbin/init.d | Jun 18 00:46 |
| MinceR | and tried service, and it worked | Jun 18 00:46 |
| MinceR | only later did i find out that the reason was entirely different | Jun 18 00:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it sysvinit that introduced the service command. | Jun 18 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | They've made things so bad with the dependencies that you almost have to have systemd now. | Jun 18 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | That wasn't an accident. | Jun 18 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't noticed any benefits of this for the user. Things don't work better than they did before. | Jun 18 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | Upstart seemed alright, at least to me. | Jun 18 00:47 |
| MinceR | moving udev into systemd so you couldn't build it without systemd wasn't an accident | Jun 18 00:47 |
| MinceR | upstart was horrible, but it was innocent enough | Jun 18 00:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: key word there is build. | Jun 18 00:48 |
| MinceR | they aimed to replace init+rc, not to replace the whole OS | Jun 18 00:48 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes, that was the first step | Jun 18 00:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd configure system build 3 core parts but that does not mean those 3 parts cannot be invidually packaged and work independant to each other as embedded developers found. | Jun 18 00:48 |
| MinceR | then they announced they'll make udev depend on kdbus, which doesn't work without systemd | Jun 18 00:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and that includes udev | Jun 18 00:49 |
| oiaohm | No kdbus would have been in kernel. | Jun 18 00:49 |
| MinceR | and i linked that announcement so many times here | Jun 18 00:49 |
| oiaohm | That would not have been a systemd dependancy. | Jun 18 00:49 |
| MinceR | show me where i said kdbus would not have been in kernel. | Jun 18 00:49 |
| oiaohm | If they were wanting systemd dependant they could have made it dbus dependant now. | Jun 18 00:50 |
| MinceR | i don't think anyone falls for you trying to put words in my mouth. | Jun 18 00:50 |
| oiaohm | This is where you logic start running into trouble. | Jun 18 00:50 |
| MinceR | but they don't care about dbus, it isn't shitty enough by their standards | Jun 18 00:50 |
| MinceR | they wanted to replace it with kdbus for ages | Jun 18 00:50 |
| MinceR | and they would have gotten away with it too, if Linus didn't keep an eye on what they were trying to do to Linux. | Jun 18 00:51 |
| oiaohm | To be correct IPC done by user space broker has a transfer over head problem. Just dbus is that bad of a design that it not acceptable to Linus. | Jun 18 00:53 |
| oiaohm | Mind you dbus is a improvement over kde and gnome prior alterantives. | Jun 18 00:53 |
| MinceR | so you insist | Jun 18 00:54 |
| MinceR | yet prior alternatives at least did not insist in running all the time | Jun 18 00:54 |
| MinceR | just during the user's x session | Jun 18 00:54 |
| MinceR | and certainly not on a server | Jun 18 00:54 |
| MinceR | and not everything in the world depended on them | Jun 18 00:54 |
| oiaohm | LOL idiot | Jun 18 00:55 |
| MinceR | so classy and eloquent | Jun 18 00:55 |
| MinceR | what happened, did redhat stop paying you enough to advertise their shit here? | Jun 18 00:55 |
| oiaohm | DCOP and Bonobo before dbus had the same kind of problem not running no gnome or kde applications. | Jun 18 00:55 |
| oiaohm | Worse they would cat fight with each other. | Jun 18 00:56 |
| MinceR | bonobo is something entirely different | Jun 18 00:56 |
| oiaohm | It was not. | Jun 18 00:56 |
| MinceR | its kde equivalent is kpart | Jun 18 00:56 |
| oiaohm | It had a central service for doing IPC. | Jun 18 00:56 |
| oiaohm | That disappeared when dbus come in. | Jun 18 00:56 |
| MinceR | at least dcop had tools that didn't shit itself when i told them to list what calls a given application has | Jun 18 00:57 |
| oiaohm | wrong so you never used kde 2 or 3 heavily. | Jun 18 00:57 |
| MinceR | keep guessing | Jun 18 00:58 |
| oiaohm | I have had dcop do that mostly triggered by artsd. | Jun 18 00:58 |
| oiaohm | another thing that it good we don't have anymore. | Jun 18 00:58 |
| MinceR | not much comfort, since we have pulseaudio being pushed on us aggressively | Jun 18 00:58 |
| MinceR | included by fucking mozilla | Jun 18 00:59 |
| oiaohm | It really simple to forgot how bad the ipc and sound was. Like starting a gnome app and a kde app and having esound and artsd race to claim the audio out for themselves. | Jun 18 01:00 |
| oiaohm | I am not saying stuff could not be better. | Jun 18 01:00 |
| MinceR | and now PA just grabs it even if nobody asked it to | Jun 18 01:01 |
| MinceR | unless you do some not well known configuration to tame it somewhat | Jun 18 01:01 |
| oiaohm | Both esound and artsd did that as well. | Jun 18 01:01 |
| MinceR | they had a systemwide daemon that started on boot? | Jun 18 01:01 |
| oiaohm | yes esound and artsd did have deamon modes. Like a lot of other sound servers at the time. Please note esound and artsd are just the top two there was another 8 that different applications would decide to use. | Jun 18 01:02 |
| oiaohm | So cat fight from hell in the sound server space. | Jun 18 01:03 |
| MinceR | apparently competition is evil | Jun 18 01:03 |
| MinceR | but redhat will finally save us by taking all control to themselves over unixes | Jun 18 01:03 |
| oiaohm | There is a difference between competition and total incompatibility. | Jun 18 01:03 |
| MinceR | then they'll hand it over to glorious microsoft, who will save us from unix by banning it from uefi! | Jun 18 01:03 |
| oiaohm | What defect was all the sound servers attempting to fix that is still not fixed now? | Jun 18 01:04 |
| oiaohm | Even firefox status it in the reason they are defaulting to pulseaudio. | Jun 18 01:05 |
| MinceR | i'm not aware of such a defect | Jun 18 01:06 |
| MinceR | perhaps you haven't heard of dmix? | Jun 18 01:06 |
| oiaohm | dmix is 2 channel. | Jun 18 01:07 |
| MinceR | let me guess, poettering uses a 7.1 system | Jun 18 01:07 |
| oiaohm | Firefox wanted 5.1 | Jun 18 01:07 |
| MinceR | also known as The Only Person Whose Use Cases Matter | Jun 18 01:07 |
| MinceR | well, firefox can go fuck itself. | Jun 18 01:07 |
| MinceR | it gets 0.0 | Jun 18 01:07 |
| oiaohm | Not to play 5.1 but to convert 5.1 as videos on line come with it at times. | Jun 18 01:08 |
| MinceR | and it's looking like i'll have to switch to chromium as nothing works on failfox anymore anyway | Jun 18 01:08 |
| oiaohm | Not to have to maintain their own stack to do that. | Jun 18 01:08 |
| oiaohm | Mixing conversions has been the universal reason. | Jun 18 01:08 |
| MinceR | good thing pulseaudio has no bugs in it whatsoever. | Jun 18 01:09 |
| MinceR | oh wait. | Jun 18 01:09 |
| MinceR | see, this is one of the things i hate about windows | Jun 18 01:09 |
| MinceR | lots of components, lots of them broken, no way to replace them with something that has a chance of actually working in my use cases | Jun 18 01:09 |
| MinceR | no choice | Jun 18 01:10 |
| oiaohm | windows has mixing conversions as something that is a library out side the sound server that applications can share. | Jun 18 01:10 |
| MinceR | m$'s way or the highway | Jun 18 01:10 |
| MinceR | so i took the highway | Jun 18 01:10 |
| MinceR | and here is redhat, demolishing it | Jun 18 01:10 |
| MinceR | windows also likes to skip even at low system load | Jun 18 01:10 |
| MinceR | and windows applications like to die if you give them higher priority | Jun 18 01:11 |
| MinceR | and it won't even work | Jun 18 01:11 |
| MinceR | windows has an atrocious task scheduler | Jun 18 01:11 |
| MinceR | i guess i wouldn't mind if i was always rich enough to keep a separate PC for every task | Jun 18 01:11 |
| oiaohm | Really windows has a lot of things wrong. But at times they do get some design ideas right. Windows was in fact designed on the presume that at some point hardware vendors would provide their own sound server. | Jun 18 01:11 |
| MinceR | i don't really see why they would | Jun 18 01:12 |
| oiaohm | So how to provide features applicaitons need without being dependant on a particular sound server was put in the design. | Jun 18 01:12 |
| MinceR | or want to face multiple audio output devices all bringing their own sound servers with them | Jun 18 01:12 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft developer have been known to try out the strangest paths. | Jun 18 01:13 |
| oiaohm | Of course some of those are totally insane. | Jun 18 01:13 |
| oiaohm | the sound card providing it own sound server comes out of the Microsoft winmoden days. | Jun 18 01:14 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 01:14 |
| MinceR | another great idea | Jun 18 01:14 |
| oiaohm | Mind you sound card having matching sound server makes more sense than each major DE having it own sound server. | Jun 18 01:16 |
| MinceR | not to me | Jun 18 01:17 |
| oiaohm | Each major De having own sound server with unique interfaces as it was. | Jun 18 01:18 |
| MinceR | the machine this keyboard is plugged into is running 0 DEs and has 2 audio output devices, at least | Jun 18 01:18 |
| oiaohm | Then applications from those DE developments depending on those sound servers running. | Jun 18 01:18 |
| oiaohm | So really firefox depending on pulseaudio is people doing a full circle again. | Jun 18 01:19 |
| oiaohm | and still not addressing the core problem. | Jun 18 01:19 |
| MinceR | no, it's a bigger step along the path which turned firefox into a train wreck | Jun 18 01:20 |
| MinceR | they're not fixing their browser, they just keep making it more bug-ridden, more malicious and less usable | Jun 18 01:20 |
| MinceR | and less free | Jun 18 01:20 |
| oiaohm | more big-ridden is wrong in this case. | Jun 18 01:21 |
| oiaohm | firefox was maintaining a full remix system it self. | Jun 18 01:22 |
| MinceR | sure, i'm just imagining the bugs i keep bumping into | Jun 18 01:22 |
| oiaohm | and that has not been properly maintained for 3 and a half years with 200 open bugs. | Jun 18 01:22 |
| MinceR | i must have been hallucinating every single time their atrocious quicksearch widget decided i wanted to open search settings when i pressed enter at the end of the search string | Jun 18 01:22 |
| MinceR | because the settings button happened to pop up under the pointer | Jun 18 01:22 |
| MinceR | and those retards didn't realize that hitting enter is not the same thing as clicking the left mouse button | Jun 18 01:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I said in the default to pulseaudio case not more bug ridden. | Jun 18 01:23 |
| MinceR | then there's the gifs randomly deciding not to play | Jun 18 01:23 |
| oiaohm | As the mix system in firefox was already bug ridden. | Jun 18 01:23 |
| MinceR | probably not as much as pulseaudio | Jun 18 01:23 |
| MinceR | i don't recall any audio-specific bugs | Jun 18 01:24 |
| oiaohm | most users don't work out as audio as they are memory leaks. | Jun 18 01:24 |
| MinceR | i doubt any user will notice a single memory leak in a web browser | Jun 18 01:25 |
| MinceR | as they leak like a sieve all the time | Jun 18 01:25 |
| MinceR | "modern" websites eat memory as if it was gratis | Jun 18 01:25 |
| MinceR | (and they eat everything else too) | Jun 18 01:25 |
| oiaohm | the swap to pulseaudio in firefox took 1G of ram usage off my general usage. | Jun 18 01:26 |
| MinceR | good for you | Jun 18 01:26 |
| MinceR | but if you were already using PA, did removing ALSA support even affect you? | Jun 18 01:26 |
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| oiaohm | I tested with the apulse as well. | Jun 18 01:27 |
| MinceR | i don't see how that's relevant | Jun 18 01:28 |
| MinceR | afaict from firefox's point of view apulse and pulseaudio are the same thing | Jun 18 01:29 |
| oiaohm | and both apulse and pulseaudio have less memory leaking mixing than what was in firefox mainline. | Jun 18 01:29 |
| cubexyz | ok, slack just bugged out on me :-/ | Jun 18 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is just an awful program in general. | Jun 18 01:30 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: joke's on you, apulse just uses dmix | Jun 18 01:30 |
| cubexyz | exited from X, now all I can see is a cursor in the top left, not blinking | Jun 18 01:30 |
| MinceR | https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse | Jun 18 01:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - i-rinat/apulse: PulseAudio emulation for ALSA | Jun 18 01:30 | |
| MinceR | >Internally, no separate sound mixing daemon is used. Instead, apulse relies on ALSA's dmix, dsnoop, and plug plugins to handle multiple sound sources and capture streams running at the same time. | Jun 18 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It would be better to have mixing done in the kernel. | Jun 18 01:31 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: why? | Jun 18 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | It would be better to have a lot of this stuff in the kernel, but they don't want it there. | Jun 18 01:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: except apulse has the rules to do 5.1 to 2 using dmix that is not in general ALSA. | Jun 18 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | Avoids some overhead. | Jun 18 01:32 |
| MinceR | so what? | Jun 18 01:32 |
| MinceR | if you wanted to avoid all overhead, just build a monolithic system that runs everything in ring 0 | Jun 18 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | I like fast. :) (A play on I like money.) | Jun 18 01:32 |
| cubexyz | can't toggle caps lock or num lock, keyboard seems unresponsive | Jun 18 01:32 |
| MinceR | and do you know how much the overhead actually is? | Jun 18 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: There's the extreme of putting almost everything outside of the kernel. | Jun 18 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | Minix-style. | Jun 18 01:34 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 18 01:34 |
| MinceR | and it didn't work out well, though i'm not sure why | Jun 18 01:35 |
| MinceR | every option has disadvantages when it comes to where you put the mixing, and i just can't tell which one is worth doing | Jun 18 01:35 |
| MinceR | i guess multiserver microkernel is just too damn difficult to get right | Jun 18 01:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: microkernel sel4 is about the best peforming. | Jun 18 01:36 |
| MinceR | that might be why everyone gave up on hurd | Jun 18 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Hurd tried to go that way too. | Jun 18 01:36 |
| oiaohm | hurd lot of nasty issues. | Jun 18 01:36 |
| MinceR | afaik only hurd tried to go that way | Jun 18 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | You might be able to run Hurd, but it's not really useful, or stable. | Jun 18 01:36 |
| MinceR | i hear minix has some massive userspace daemon with multiple responsibilities | Jun 18 01:36 |
| oiaohm | hurd was designed not only to be a microkernel but also to attempt to be self repairing. | Jun 18 01:36 |
| MinceR | hurd developers basically gave up on the multiserver microkernel idea | Jun 18 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: You mean to recover in cases where Linux would just panic. | Jun 18 01:37 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, any ideas on how to unblank my text console? | Jun 18 01:37 |
| MinceR | at this point >> https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/systemd.html | Jun 18 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | systemd | Jun 18 01:37 | |
| oiaohm | self repairing is a pure nightmare sometimes you want a system to kernel panic. | Jun 18 01:37 |
| MinceR | at this point, hurd has ceased to have a point to it | Jun 18 01:37 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: that's fine, just turn it off | Jun 18 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, because after a major error, there's no guarantee that a recovery will put the system in a stable state after that without rebooting. | Jun 18 01:37 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: can you ssh in? | Jun 18 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | That's why UNIX had Panic instead of the Multics error recovery code. | Jun 18 01:38 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what's sel4? security enhanced l4? | Jun 18 01:38 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, yes | Jun 18 01:38 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: so the system isn't frozen... | Jun 18 01:38 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: brain not thinking console commands at moment "reset" might work. or ssh in. (there is a console reset command) | Jun 18 01:38 |
| cubexyz | no, just the screen is blank except for cursor on top left | Jun 18 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | If you want a stable system, you should probably just stay on a distribution with long term support where all you get by default are bug fixes. | Jun 18 01:39 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: can you switch virtual consoles? either with ctrl+alt+f# or with chvt (or what it's called) | Jun 18 01:39 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, yup tried that | Jun 18 01:39 |
| MinceR | then again, if the cursor isn't blinking in text mode, the video adaptor is really frozen | Jun 18 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | Debian 9 starts off with Linux 4.9 after 33 minor releases. | Jun 18 01:39 |
| cubexyz | no go | Jun 18 01:39 |
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| MinceR | (should be switching pages to make it blink or something) | Jun 18 01:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://sel4.systems/ Yes security enhanced l4. It can do hard realtime. | Jun 18 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sel4.systems | Home | seL4 | Jun 18 01:39 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i see | Jun 18 01:39 |
| cubexyz | can I tell which tty it is? | Jun 18 01:39 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: i have no idea | Jun 18 01:40 |
| oiaohm | sel4 is like the gold standard of fast running microkernels. | Jun 18 01:40 |
| cubexyz | ah... w | Jun 18 01:40 |
| cubexyz | tty1 and pts/1 | Jun 18 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Using a "stable" kernel that was just released often isn't as good as picking a LTS kernel and staying with it until it's no longer supported or another LTS is sufficiently baked that the major problems are worked out. | Jun 18 01:40 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: maybe you can rmmod some relevant module and modprobe it again? | Jun 18 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you need something from a newer kernel, it's better to be conservative. | Jun 18 01:40 |
| cubexyz | I think the text console is in the kernel now :-/ | Jun 18 01:40 |
| cubexyz | not like the old days | Jun 18 01:41 |
| MinceR | and the video driver? | Jun 18 01:41 |
| MinceR | i915 or what have you | Jun 18 01:41 |
| cubexyz | yes, it is i915 | Jun 18 01:41 |
| MinceR | then again, i doubt it would let go | Jun 18 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz: Quite a bit of the video driver code is in the kernel. | Jun 18 01:41 |
| MinceR | the text console is probably using it | Jun 18 01:41 |
| cubexyz | maybe I can reload that? | Jun 18 01:41 |
| MinceR | yes, maybe | Jun 18 01:41 |
| MinceR | might be a good idea to sync first though :) | Jun 18 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | Userspace Mode Setting with X was always unreliable crap. | Jun 18 01:42 |
| MinceR | yup | Jun 18 01:42 |
| cubexyz | i915 is the big one, but there's also video, button, drm, intel_gtt, etc | Jun 18 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | It was also an ongoing security nightmare as X had to run as root, etc. | Jun 18 01:42 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: i don't know enough to tell which is the best choice | Jun 18 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | And there are/were plenty of ways to attack X and become root because of that. | Jun 18 01:43 |
| cubexyz | in use by "intel_agp" | Jun 18 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | Modern system with no proprietary video driver, that's a lot harder. | Jun 18 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | X also has a lot of code that is years or decades old and seldom if ever used that's just dangling there creating more low hanging fruit for attackers. | Jun 18 01:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there comes a point where it reset the system. | Jun 18 01:44 |
| MinceR | and nobody appears to survive who knows it all | Jun 18 01:44 |
| cubexyz | disappointing the new software is less reliable :-/ | Jun 18 01:44 |
| MinceR | they're just dicking around with wayland | Jun 18 01:44 |
| MinceR | and i wonder if they'll ever support non-vsync for games at all | Jun 18 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: One developer said he was probably one of three people who knew exactly how Xinput worked. | Jun 18 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | And that he wishes he wasn't. | Jun 18 01:45 |
| MinceR | yeah, i remember that | Jun 18 01:45 |
| cubexyz | ok, now to reset i915 without reboot is the question | Jun 18 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | They're still cleaning up a lot of ancient code from X that nothing uses anymore. | Jun 18 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | I just saw a commit the other day that removed over 2,000 lines of code that was copyrighted by SUSE in 2000. | Jun 18 01:46 |
| cubexyz | oh wait, you guys are forgetting init 1 | Jun 18 01:46 |
| cubexyz | maybe that could work | Jun 18 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | I also saw a commit on the master branch the other day that said it was removing some code that nothing had used since 2004. | Jun 18 01:46 |
| MinceR | i doubt the kernel cares, but at this point, i doubt you have anything to lose :) | Jun 18 01:46 |
| cubexyz | ah, I'm screwed... that killed ssh | Jun 18 01:46 |
| MinceR | oh, right | Jun 18 01:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98833 wayland support non-vsync at times it been broken. | Jun 18 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.freedesktop.org | 98833 – [REGRESSION, bisected] Wayland revert commit breaks non-Vsync fullscreen frame updates [ http://ur1.ca/r0ld3 ] | Jun 18 01:47 | |
| DaemonFC | So apparently the more they look, the more old crap they find. | Jun 18 01:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: oh, so it's not completely anathema to them. nice. | Jun 18 01:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically if non-vsync is not working on wayland you have a bug in mesa. | Jun 18 01:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: or Nvidia. | Jun 18 01:47 |
| cubexyz | ok, that was a botch-up | Jun 18 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | I expect that Wayland will be okay around Fedora 27 or so. | Jun 18 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | At this rate. | Jun 18 01:48 |
| cubexyz | got have a mind to replace slack with openbsd | Jun 18 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | It's mostly usable now, but not quite there yet. | Jun 18 01:49 |
| MinceR | i expect that it will need some help | Jun 18 01:49 |
| cubexyz | this system I'm using xchat on is one of the most reliable boxes | Jun 18 01:50 |
| cubexyz | that and fc1 | Jun 18 01:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it was funny wayland by a lot of people was blamed for breaking non-vsync when it turned out it was mesa or nvidia in egl mode that was stuffed. So it was causing bad performance on android phones and no one was complaining. | Jun 18 01:50 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: If it was Samsung phones, they were probably just accustomed to it. | Jun 18 01:51 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 18 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | Also, 3 hours on a charge... Should be plenty, right? | Jun 18 01:51 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 01:51 |
| cubexyz | why can't linux run without a video driver? | Jun 18 01:51 |
| MinceR | what phone is that? | Jun 18 01:51 |
| cubexyz | just text... | Jun 18 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The Galaxy S6 was terrible. | Jun 18 01:51 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 18 01:51 |
| MinceR | samsung stopped making good phones after the note II | Jun 18 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | The people who mugged me got it. | Jun 18 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | Oh well. | Jun 18 01:52 |
| MinceR | and they stopped making high-end lcd tablets after the tab pro-s | Jun 18 01:52 |
| cubexyz | now I'm liking radeonfb much better than before | Jun 18 01:52 |
| MinceR | even though oleds still burn in | Jun 18 01:52 |
| MinceR | pity | Jun 18 01:52 |
| cubexyz | at least it worked | Jun 18 01:52 |
| MinceR | samsung used to make good stuff | Jun 18 01:52 |
| MinceR | well, i guess they still make good ssd-s | Jun 18 01:52 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Linux can run without a video driver if you don't mind serial port or forcing back to vesa and praying video card vesa text support in fact works. | Jun 18 01:52 |
| MinceR | and the chromebook pro is attractive | Jun 18 01:52 |
| MinceR | of course they don't sell that in hungary | Jun 18 01:53 |
| cubexyz | how much for chromebook pro? | Jun 18 01:54 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, remember that trick I told you about radeonfb? | Jun 18 01:55 |
| cubexyz | /sbin/modprobe radeonfb and it works great | Jun 18 01:55 |
| cubexyz | not so with 2017 slackware though | Jun 18 01:55 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: $549.99 on amazon | Jun 18 01:56 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, ok not too bad then | Jun 18 01:56 |
| cubexyz | X has been running on FC1 for over 400 days without issue | Jun 18 01:58 |
| MinceR | this morning my laptop failed to turn its displays on when i tried to bring it out of lock | Jun 18 01:59 |
| MinceR | apparently nothing else failed, but i still had to reboot it | Jun 18 01:59 |
| cubexyz | radeonfb exists for FC1 so it's been around for a while | Jun 18 02:00 |
| cubexyz | no clue what the deal is with newer linux | Jun 18 02:01 |
| cubexyz | I'm not sure I've _ever_ managed to unload radeonfb | Jun 18 02:02 |
| cubexyz | but vector linux works better with it loaded | Jun 18 02:02 |
| cubexyz | man fbset also states the docs are out of date | Jun 18 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.11.6 | Jun 18 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like some serious Intel i915 driver bugs were fixed. | Jun 18 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | I'll have to wait for Fedora to build it, which will probably happen Monday. | Jun 18 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: One case where the performance if really bad thanks to the driver being in userspace is the NTFS-3G FUSE module. | Jun 18 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | Can't be in the kernel for obvious reasons. | Jun 18 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | "Microsoft Loves Linux" so much that they sue over things like a patent on DOS file names in the vfat driver. | Jun 18 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | Who know what patents they have relating to NTFS. | Jun 18 02:14 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 18 02:14 |
| oiaohm | We do know that NTFS is patented. ntfs3g maker end up doing a deal with Microsoft and it why the in kernel NTFS driver suxs. | Jun 18 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | What about vfat though? | Jun 18 02:15 |
| MinceR | i wonder if they're bullshit patents like the VFAT one | Jun 18 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | You need that to have /boot/efi. | Jun 18 02:15 |
| cubexyz | wouldn't the VFAT patent be expired now? | Jun 18 02:16 |
| MinceR | afaik there's a copy of FAT in the uefi spec and you're allowed to use that only for uefi | Jun 18 02:16 |
| MinceR | but fuck uefi | Jun 18 02:16 |
| MinceR | it's toxic | Jun 18 02:16 |
| oiaohm | vfat patents are expired. | Jun 18 02:16 |
| MinceR | when did they expire? | Jun 18 02:16 |
| oiaohm | exfat microsoft has patented to hell as well. | Jun 18 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | Well, there's two issues with the 8.3 filename patent. | Jun 18 02:16 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 18 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | One is that Linus Torvalds might have invalidated it in court. | Jun 18 02:16 |
| MinceR | what's worse, they got the sd card guys to make their shitty fs-es "standard" | Jun 18 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | The other is that Linux works around it anyway by setting the short file name to random characters. | Jun 18 02:17 |
| MinceR | that sort of invalidation never seems to work | Jun 18 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | It's funny because that was causing Windows XP to crash when reading some of those files. | Jun 18 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | So another patch to Linux vfat to avoid crashing Windows XP with those random short filenames had to be added. | Jun 18 02:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Microsoft_FAT_patents 2014 patented ended Microsoft did attempt to evergreen it until 2021. | Jun 18 02:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft FAT patents - software patents wiki (en.swpat.org) [ http://ur1.ca/r0lhn ] | Jun 18 02:18 | |
| MinceR | i see | Jun 18 02:18 |
| MinceR | yet they kept suing android vendors all the time since then | Jun 18 02:18 |
| oiaohm | remember exfat is still patented that Microsoft got into particular storage standards. | Jun 18 02:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's criminal | Jun 18 02:19 |
| MinceR | they shouldn't be allowed to call them standards | Jun 18 02:19 |
| oiaohm | sdxc cards have exfat in standard. | Jun 18 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They claimed to have "117" patents that Linux violates. | Jun 18 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | A few FAT patents expiring wouldn't make much difference if that is the case. | Jun 18 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | But they won't tell us what other patents Linux is allegedly violating. | Jun 18 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | Also, there's the problem where exFAT has new patents *and* was declared the standard for SDXC cards. | Jun 18 02:21 |
| cubexyz | ok, now I see a problem: | Jun 18 02:21 |
| cubexyz | "Failed gpm connect attempt by uid 1000 for vc /dev/tty0" | Jun 18 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | You *could* make FAT32 bigger than 32 GB using non-Microsoft formatting tools, but SDHC spec leaves what to do with volumes that size undefined. | Jun 18 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | Some devices may work and others may not. | Jun 18 02:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: problem is that is in the standard so the SDXC may access the exfat data for wear leveling. | Jun 18 02:23 |
| MinceR | then those cards will fail and get replaced | Jun 18 02:23 |
| MinceR | play stupid games, win stupid prizes | Jun 18 02:23 |
| oiaohm | We are looking 2026 for when exfat patents start dieing. | Jun 18 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | I mostly use SD cards for storing music files. | Jun 18 02:24 |
| MinceR | i wonder what will be left of humanity by then | Jun 18 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | So wear leveling isn't that important for me. | Jun 18 02:24 |
| cubexyz | could someone try: fbset --info | Jun 18 02:25 |
| cubexyz | and tell me the output | Jun 18 02:25 |
| MinceR | zsh: command not found: fbset | Jun 18 02:26 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 02:26 |
| oiaohm | And from the reported patents so far to unlock all of exfat will not be until 2030. | Jun 18 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.google.com/patents/US8321439 | Jun 18 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patent US8321439 - Quick filename lookup using name hash - Google Patents | Jun 18 02:26 | |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: 2029 will be when this one expires. | Jun 18 02:27 |
| cubexyz | ok, maybe it's /usr/sbin/fbset or /sbin/fbset | Jun 18 02:27 |
| MinceR | they patented the hash table? | Jun 18 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | exFAT isn't going to be in the public domain for a while. | Jun 18 02:27 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: same | Jun 18 02:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes the hash table method exFAT uses. | Jun 18 02:27 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, what are you running? | Jun 18 02:28 |
| MinceR | the shittiness of the patent system and the corruptness of the patent authorities never ceases to amaze me | Jun 18 02:28 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: debian7 | Jun 18 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That's probably why FAT32 is the "standard" for uEFI. | Jun 18 02:28 |
| cubexyz | huh | Jun 18 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Had they made it exFAT then you could argue that you had to implement it to make your OS boot. | Jun 18 02:28 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: same would work on vfat, though | Jun 18 02:29 |
| oiaohm | uEFI went vfat early where a patent grant from Microsoft for anyone implementing EFI. | Jun 18 02:30 |
| oiaohm | Intel refused to use a file system that required patents to be paided. | Jun 18 02:30 |
| MinceR | apparently they weren't really adamant in their refusal | Jun 18 02:31 |
| MinceR | no wonder -- they bent totally over for m$ with this whole uefi shit | Jun 18 02:31 |
| MinceR | FAT, PE, Restricted Boot | Jun 18 02:31 |
| oiaohm | I wish the threat had been done intel wished to go Universal Disk Format (UDF) | Jun 18 02:31 |
| MinceR | or ext2 | Jun 18 02:32 |
| oiaohm | Now windows with UDF on a harddrive is play crash me loto. | Jun 18 02:32 |
| MinceR | and see how the robber barons in redmond react to that | Jun 18 02:32 |
| MinceR | things like this make me wish humanity succeeded at their wish for extinction | Jun 18 02:32 |
| oiaohm | ext2/3/4 has permissions mess. UDF avoids that. | Jun 18 02:32 |
| MinceR | maybe nature will succeed next time | Jun 18 02:32 |
| MinceR | better set your permissions properly, then | Jun 18 02:32 |
| oiaohm | I really wish I could use UDF on harddrives and windows worked. | Jun 18 02:32 |
| MinceR | even gnu/linux sw seems to sometimes believe a non-optical device formatted with UDF had to be an optical disc | Jun 18 02:33 |
| MinceR | annoying | Jun 18 02:33 |
| cubexyz | oh boy, man fbset was out of date in the FC1 era | Jun 18 02:35 |
| cubexyz | how about: | Jun 18 02:36 |
| cubexyz | cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes | Jun 18 02:36 |
| cubexyz | anything there? | Jun 18 02:36 |
| MinceR | % cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes | Jun 18 02:37 |
| MinceR | U:1366x768p-0 | Jun 18 02:37 |
| MinceR | that's all | Jun 18 02:37 |
| cubexyz | ok, cat /proc/cmdline | Jun 18 02:47 |
| MinceR | % cat /proc/cmdline | Jun 18 02:48 |
| MinceR | BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/darkstar-root ro quiet | Jun 18 02:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6c9ko5/i_found_a_penguin_in_microsoft_customer_support/ | Jun 18 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | I found a penguin in Microsoft Customer support! : linux | Jun 18 12:40 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/king-henrys-foot.jpg | Jun 18 13:46 |
| schestowitz | nice | Jun 18 13:47 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/kxDH3v4.jpg | Jun 18 13:48 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I keep wondering: how popular are imperial units in Britain? | Jun 18 13:49 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6fpm8y/linus_his_take_on_microsoft_earlier_days_what_is/ | Jun 18 13:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linus & his take on Microsoft. Earlier days. What is he saying here?? : linux | Jun 18 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: not like in the US | Jun 18 13:50 |
| schestowitz | with the EU we moved to metric for almost everything | Jun 18 13:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: What about the common folk? | Jun 18 13:51 |
| MinceR | https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/azq7AqN_700b.jpg (sauce: https://9gag.com/gag/azq7AqN ) | Jun 18 13:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's what she said? | Jun 18 13:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Slavic architecture - 9GAG | Jun 18 13:51 | |
| XRevan86 | > with the EU | Jun 18 13:51 |
| XRevan86 | Recent thing then? | Jun 18 13:51 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 18 13:51 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: about 17 years ago | Jun 18 13:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This reminded me of some bad dreams I am sometimes having. | Jun 18 13:52 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 18 13:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: So I guess regular people still use imperial units inertedly. | Jun 18 13:53 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was an optical illusion at first | Jun 18 13:53 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: older people | Jun 18 13:53 |
| schestowitz | stones and pounds for bodyweight | Jun 18 13:53 |
| XRevan86 | > That's what you do if you're connecting two buildings with different floor levels. It's probably that | Jun 18 13:56 |
| XRevan86 | Interesting, didn't know that. | Jun 18 13:56 |
| MinceR | it could be done better | Jun 18 13:56 |
| MinceR | you could just bring the steps to the right below that door's floor level up to that floor level | Jun 18 13:57 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: actually i think i've encountered something like this in a dream, but that wasn't a nightmare | Jun 18 13:57 |
| XRevan86 | > amaterasuaboy: As a child I always had nightmares about stairs like this | Jun 18 13:58 |
| XRevan86 | Yeah, not a nightmare for me too, just some confusing stuff. | Jun 18 13:58 |
| XRevan86 | > you could just bring the steps to the right below that door's floor level up to that floor level | Jun 18 14:00 |
| XRevan86 | I guess the door is the new thing here. | Jun 18 14:00 |
| MinceR | the stairs don't make sense though | Jun 18 14:00 |
| XRevan86 | and they changed the left stairs but kept the right ones for some reason | Jun 18 14:00 |
| MinceR | it's pointless to walk down just so you can walk back up | Jun 18 14:01 |
| MinceR | in fact, there isn't even enough room for the landing in the deep corner | Jun 18 14:01 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, this could be avoided. | Jun 18 14:03 |
| XRevan86 | > Well, it has its ups and downs | Jun 18 14:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe that dream thing shows we're slightly claustrophobic :) | Jun 18 14:06 |
| XRevan86 | or maybe it's just confusing for a dream state to have stairs go in different directions | Jun 18 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | horizontally | Jun 18 14:09 |
| XRevan86 | so when one remembers about that while dreaming, it gets weirded out | Jun 18 14:10 |
| MinceR | i found it weird while dreaming | Jun 18 14:11 |
| MinceR | but i proceeded :> | Jun 18 14:11 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I guess the only hope for US to change the unit system is for it to join EU :) | Jun 18 14:11 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 14:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, that will happen | Jun 18 14:12 |
| oiaohm | Some of the biggest mess in USA history with Nasa and mil has been mixing up the to unit systems. | Jun 18 14:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Mine usually involve climbing through holes between staircases of different levels | Jun 18 14:12 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 14:13 |
| oiaohm | http://edition.cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/30/mars.metric.02/ | Jun 18 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | CNN - Metric mishap caused loss of NASA orbiter - September 30, 1999 [ http://ur1.ca/r0oeq ] | Jun 18 14:13 | |
| oiaohm | They are kind of classical stuff ups. | Jun 18 14:14 |
| oiaohm | One contractor uses metric one uses imperial and result is failure. | Jun 18 14:14 |
| *XRevan86 waits for a -up when somebody confuses a day with a month :) | Jun 18 14:14 | |
| XRevan86 | 05/01/17 | Jun 18 14:14 |
| XRevan86 | May first 2017? January fifth 2017? | Jun 18 14:15 |
| oiaohm | Yep its like war has to end on like the 1/1 2/2 3/3 .... so that everyone stops fighting at the same time. | Jun 18 14:15 |
| XRevan86 | Or maybe January seventeenth 2005 | Jun 18 14:15 |
| XRevan86 | A Japanese would write it like that :) | Jun 18 14:16 |
| oiaohm | I though reversed was 4 digit year. | Jun 18 14:16 |
| XRevan86 | Though yes, rather 2005/01/17 | Jun 18 14:16 |
| XRevan86 | maybe a rogue Japanese :) | Jun 18 14:16 |
| oiaohm | O my http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/leforinforref/64790/HTML/default/viewer.htm#n18uyqeusnl0fxn1d9pvhm49j4za.htm | Jun 18 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.sas.com | SAS(R) 9.4 Formats and Informats: Reference [ http://ur1.ca/r0ofm ] | Jun 18 14:17 | |
| oiaohm | Yes yymmdd is valid. | Jun 18 14:17 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: :D | Jun 18 14:18 |
| XRevan86 | Everybody should just use 2017-01-05, I'm positive about that. | Jun 18 14:22 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country there is a nightmare on that go down to Kazakhstan | Jun 18 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Date format by country - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qzhvs ] | Jun 18 14:22 | |
| XRevan86 | Tested on locals who never saw it before in their lives: they never had any confusion at all. | Jun 18 14:23 |
| oiaohm | to be insane Kazakhstan support yyyy dd mm | Jun 18 14:23 |
| oiaohm | Nothing like the human race making it hard to know what day a person is referencing. | Jun 18 14:23 |
| XRevan86 | > (yyyy.dd.mm) in Kazakh | Jun 18 14:23 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Well, dots is not good here I agree. | Jun 18 14:24 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: But here's a secret about Kazakhstan: Kazakh is a minority language there. | Jun 18 14:24 |
| oiaohm | That would be sad going to war to unify global date systems. | Jun 18 14:24 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/ATmdjYk.png | Jun 18 14:25 |
| oiaohm | We have had wars over all kinds of stupidity so I would not put that past the human race. | Jun 18 14:25 |
| XRevan86 | Kazakh is going to get even more obscure soon too. | Jun 18 14:25 |
| XRevan86 | The eternal president of Kazakhstan decided they should change the alphabet of the language. | Jun 18 14:25 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 14:26 |
| MinceR | another eternal president? | Jun 18 14:26 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yep | Jun 18 14:26 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nursultan_Nazarbayev | Jun 18 14:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Nursultan Nazarbayev - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0ohs ] | Jun 18 14:27 | |
| XRevan86 | > He has been the country's leader since 1989, when he was named First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Kazakh SSR, and was elected the nation's first president following its independence from the Soviet Union in December 1991. He holds the title 'Leader of the Nation'. In April 2015, Nazarbayev was re-elected with almost 98% of the vote. | Jun 18 14:27 |
| MinceR | ah, not official yet | Jun 18 14:27 |
| MinceR | (and not dead yet, so north korea is the only necrocracy for now) | Jun 18 14:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, no, it's not his real status :) | Jun 18 14:27 |
| XRevan86 | not de-jure, I mean | Jun 18 14:27 |
| XRevan86 | He's like Lukashenko | Jun 18 14:28 |
| XRevan86 | only 5 years cooler | Jun 18 14:28 |
| MinceR | >Nazarbayev espoused anti-religious views during the Soviet era;[60] he has now made an effort to highlight his Muslim heritage by performing the Hajj pilgrimage,[60] and supporting mosque renovations.[61] | Jun 18 14:29 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 14:29 |
| MinceR | just like hungarians | Jun 18 14:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Just like Russians. | Jun 18 14:29 |
| MinceR | doesn't matter whether "communist"/"socialist" symbolism or religious fundamentalist symbolism, they're always all for extreme authoritarianism | Jun 18 14:30 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's just careerism | Jun 18 14:30 |
| XRevan86 | they go for what's hip at a time | Jun 18 14:30 |
| MinceR | they don't believe in anything except oppression and exploitation | Jun 18 14:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's besides symbolism though, isn't it? | Jun 18 14:31 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 18 14:31 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, Kazakhstan is pretty nice. | Jun 18 14:33 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIV-QdPEx-Q | Jun 18 14:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kazakhstan You Very Nice Place - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r0oje ] | Jun 18 14:34 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I guess it's Borat | Jun 18 14:34 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 18 14:34 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/zqCIzzTAmxU :D | Jun 18 14:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Borat anthem plays at medal ceremony - YouTube | Jun 18 14:36 | |
| XRevan86 | > unintentional | Jun 18 14:37 |
| XRevan86 | Yeah, they were totally fooled by Borat's anthem with English lyrics | Jun 18 14:37 |
| schestowitz | haha | Jun 18 14:39 |
| schestowitz | classic | Jun 18 14:39 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/91uXQmO.gifv | Jun 18 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Classic | Jun 18 14:50 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What? o_0 | Jun 18 14:50 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/6E50Mju.jpg | Jun 18 14:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This warrants a remake of Jesus Christ Superstar | Jun 18 14:51 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6hci0f/linux_code_in_prey/ | Jun 18 14:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux code in Prey? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r0onk ] | Jun 18 14:53 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that was blunt.. | Jun 18 14:55 |
| oiaohm | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Flatpak-Steam-Flathub this is interesting | Jun 18 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Is Now Available In Flatpak Form - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r0onz ] | Jun 18 14:56 | |
| schestowitz | good | Jun 18 14:57 |
| MinceR | >steam >flatpak | Jun 18 15:00 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/dFZmJ6a.jpg | Jun 18 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: 404 | Jun 18 15:02 |
| MinceR | :( | Jun 18 15:02 |
| MinceR | i guess someone posted something on imgur that vlad didn't like | Jun 18 15:02 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Which Vlad? | Jun 18 15:03 |
| MinceR | the khuilo | Jun 18 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He has control over imgur? | Jun 18 15:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876440078016532480 | Jun 18 15:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/0DTBcapG8C | Jun 18 15:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #steamso #steam #gnu #linux #games | Jun 18 15:03 |
| MinceR | he has control over the Great Firewall of Russia | Jun 18 15:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming #gamepack | Jun 18 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jun 18 15:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 18 15:03 | |
| schestowitz | weird | Jun 18 15:04 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: the URL works here | Jun 18 15:04 |
| schestowitz | maybe Vlad doesn't like MinceR's gay-ish posts | Jun 18 15:04 |
| XRevan86 | It's HTTPS so I doubt Vlad MitM'd it %) | Jun 18 15:04 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 15:04 |
| schestowitz | what's the point of it? | Jun 18 15:04 |
| XRevan86 | okay, it works in Chromium | Jun 18 15:05 |
| MinceR | maybe vlad has spies at the generally accepted root CAs | Jun 18 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe imgur has a policy of not showing such content to Firefox users %) | Jun 18 15:05 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 15:06 |
| XRevan86 | https://forum.f-droid.org/t/600 :( | Jun 18 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.f-droid.org | So long, farewell and goodbye - F-Droid Forum | Jun 18 15:11 | |
| XRevan86 | Hmm, techrightsbot… http://localhost/ | Jun 18 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights | People's rights in the digital age | Plutocracy threatened by freedom, democracy, privacy & civil rights | Jun 18 15:11 | |
| XRevan86 | That's the thing with those title parsers. | Jun 18 15:12 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/0DTBcapG8C #steamso #steam #gnu #linux #games...' | Jun 18 15:18 | |
| MinceR | lying to get people to adopt your shit: "MBR disks do not support more than four partitions on each disk." https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc725797%28v=ws.11%29.aspx | Jun 18 15:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-technet.microsoft.com | Change a GUID Partition Table Disk into a Master Boot Record Disk [ http://ur1.ca/r0ow3 ] | Jun 18 15:33 | |
| MinceR | justmicrosoftthings | Jun 18 15:33 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited '#antiX 16.2 Linux OS Is Based on #Debian...' | Jun 18 15:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876449308685545473 | Jun 18 15:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Hurd 2017 Released https://t.co/PREAtAoRN8 | Jun 18 15:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #hurd #freesw #debian | Jun 18 15:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 18 15:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Hurd 2017 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 18 15:43 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that statement is correct MBR it self only has slots for 4 partitions. | Jun 18 15:49 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i wonder what extended partitions are for | Jun 18 15:52 |
| MinceR | which they supported in their dos for ages | Jun 18 15:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_boot_record extended partitions are EBR | Jun 18 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Extended boot record - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0p0r ] | Jun 18 15:54 | |
| MinceR | and they are referred by the MBR | Jun 18 15:54 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lvm or EBR or some other break up system could be reference by the MBR to get extra partitions. | Jun 18 15:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so like it or not EBR is not really required for on a drive using MBR. | Jun 18 15:56 |
| oiaohm | GUID Partition Table (GPT) in the primary table support up to 128 entries for partitions. | Jun 18 15:57 |
| oiaohm | And you can if you wish use LVM or EBR inside those. | Jun 18 15:57 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: mind you the bigger issue with MBR is the 2TB limit. | Jun 18 16:00 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I really do wonder what size drive and what setup would require to use all 128 partitions of GPT. | Jun 18 16:03 |
| MinceR | i really don't care | Jun 18 16:04 |
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| MinceR | https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753506%28v=ws.11%29.aspx | Jun 18 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-technet.microsoft.com | Create partition logical [ http://ur1.ca/r0p3w ] | Jun 18 16:08 | |
| MinceR | and then the nonexistent "logical" "partition" suddenly existed again | Jun 18 16:09 |
| MinceR | also, it's nice to see that there still are plenty of people who tirelessly defend the interests of industry-destroying criminal corporations without getting any rewards for it | Jun 18 16:17 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Even the nice lady who said you...' | Jun 18 16:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Castlewell https://twitter.com/Castlewell/status/876459753987244032 | Jun 18 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest Let's Get Gamey! https://t.co/6oxscHwYsB | Jun 18 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @GoGamersWorld @warrenball757 | Jun 18 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #games #videogames | Jun 18 16:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Let’s Get Gamey | Jun 18 16:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 18 16:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn https://t.co/iCVbGDv8dg' | Jun 18 16:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/iCVbGDv8dg | Jun 18 16:21 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really items like set-top boxes that in specs that say support only MBR drivers you will find EBR other extends don't work. | Jun 18 16:25 |
| MinceR | are any of my PCs set-top boxes? | Jun 18 16:26 |
| MinceR | does the article i cited mention set-top boxes anywhere? | Jun 18 16:26 |
| MinceR | really, you m$ shills come up with the stupidest excuses | Jun 18 16:26 |
| oiaohm | The article does not say it for PC either. | Jun 18 16:26 |
| oiaohm | This is how Microsoft gets away with it. | Jun 18 16:26 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange 1. No sprinklers 2. flammable cladding 3....' | Jun 18 16:27 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so it not a wrong statement it a deceptive one. | Jun 18 16:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: MBR drive does not mean a driver with MBR and EBR either. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363785(VS.85).aspx yes Microsoft and their defines basic disc is MBR and EBR and Dynamic disks is using Microsofts equal to LVM. | Jun 18 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-msdn.microsoft.com | Basic and Dynamic Disks (Windows) [ http://ur1.ca/r0p8j ] | Jun 18 16:33 | |
| MinceR | except when it does | Jun 18 16:34 |
| MinceR | but yeah, calling the msdos partitioning scheme "MBR" was a clever move | Jun 18 16:34 |
| MinceR | lets them do doublethink and doubletalk about it | Jun 18 16:34 |
| MinceR | and people like you fall for it too | Jun 18 16:34 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record except you have the history wrong. | Jun 18 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Master boot record - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0p8v ] | Jun 18 16:36 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: IBM made MBR not Microsoft. So its IBM partition scheme that Microsoft creatively renamed. | Jun 18 16:36 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: IBM define of MBR does not have extended partitions. | Jun 18 16:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes Microsoft goes back into history when it suite them. | Jun 18 16:38 |
| MinceR | so m$-dos supporting them must have been a bug | Jun 18 16:38 |
| schestowitz | same for smb | Jun 18 16:38 |
| MinceR | yes, m$ lies when it suits them | Jun 18 16:38 |
| schestowitz | IIRC an IBM thing | Jun 18 16:38 |
| MinceR | (that is, all the time) | Jun 18 16:38 |
| schestowitz | bastardised by MS | Jun 18 16:38 |
| MinceR | and then rebranded | Jun 18 16:38 |
| schestowitz | yes | Jun 18 16:38 |
| schestowitz | well known to some | Jun 18 16:38 |
| schestowitz | to others it's "Windows network" | Jun 18 16:38 |
| MinceR | "Common Internet File System" -- from the inventors of the Internet! :> | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | Or something along those lines | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | but they copied it | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | then "extended" it | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | then denies Samba documentation | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | and threatened them | Jun 18 16:39 |
| MinceR | (of course if you really expose it on the Internet, you deserve having your systems broken into) | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | with patent licence and all | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | but it's old news, let's now dwell on it | Jun 18 16:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: msdos partitioning scheme contains MBR and EBR. That is where you were reading wrong. | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | now there's wambacry | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | sambacry | Jun 18 16:39 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i wasn't reading wrong | Jun 18 16:39 |
| MinceR | https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aWmwoo3_700b.jpg | Jun 18 16:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the fun part is if Microsoft supported NEC version of MBR in the MBR there would be 8 partitions instead of 4. | Jun 18 16:43 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's extremely fun | Jun 18 16:43 |
| MinceR | also extremely relevant | Jun 18 16:43 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: good one | Jun 18 16:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: please note that 8 partition version of MBR was in custom version of MS-Dos Microsoft made for NEC. So Microsoft has supported the most limited version of MBR they could get away with. | Jun 18 16:48 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/9QA7K6g.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/9QA7K6g ) | Jun 18 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | The correct way to drive a screw. | Jun 18 16:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The correct way to drive a screw. - GIF on Imgur | Jun 18 16:50 | |
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| XRevan86 | > MBR disks do not support more than four partitions on each disc | Jun 18 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | So? | Jun 18 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | They kinda do with extended partitions but this has limitations. | Jun 18 16:55 |
| MinceR | yes they do | Jun 18 16:56 |
| MinceR | but if users knew that, it would be more difficult to sell them on uefi bullshit | Jun 18 16:56 |
| MinceR | so we get m$ revisionism | Jun 18 16:56 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Windows does extended partitions like crazy. | Jun 18 16:56 |
| MinceR | it does everything like crazy :> | Jun 18 16:57 |
| XRevan86 | That MBR limitation is important when converting from GPT: extended partitions require a bit more space than the user probably gave to partitions in GPT | Jun 18 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | so when converting from GPT to MBR, more than 4 partitions creates an actual problem | Jun 18 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: GPT can live without UEFI, just not on Windows %) | Jun 18 16:59 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 18 16:59 |
| XRevan86 | That is, for the drive with Windows, for others nobody cares. | Jun 18 17:00 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/VNEgllY.jpg | Jun 18 17:22 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/gbe6UJE.jpg | Jun 18 17:36 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/uLLEhKB.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/uLLEhKB ) | Jun 18 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Brushing time! | Jun 18 17:43 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/Htid6b8.jpg | Jun 18 18:10 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/FvQon0J.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/UuGsy ) | Jun 18 18:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jun 18 18:27 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: For a moment thought it's Tsoy, but nope %) | Jun 18 18:30 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 18:31 |
| MinceR | who's Tsoy? | Jun 18 18:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://youtu.be/ACAvBBMb6BM | Jun 18 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Кино - Группа крови - YouTube | Jun 18 18:35 | |
| MinceR | that doesn't really clear it up | Jun 18 18:37 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Tsoi | Jun 18 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Viktor Tsoi - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0pq2 ] | Jun 18 18:38 | |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 18 18:38 |
| XRevan86 | He's an ironic figure, so seeing his portrait is something I'm expecting :) | Jun 18 18:39 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/Xssnr | Jun 18 18:57 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/yC2fHES.jpg?1 (gallery: http://imgur.com/yC2fHES ) | Jun 18 19:22 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: I just asked a friend from Kazakhstan about what he thinks about the alphabet initiative. He didn't know, thinks it's completely nuts. | Jun 18 19:49 |
| XRevan86 | He used a stronger language though. | Jun 18 19:49 |
| XRevan86 | Kazakhstan is not exactly obscenely wealthy to throw lots of money on alphabet micromanagement. | Jun 18 19:51 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 18 20:08 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: hi | Jun 18 20:08 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 20:09 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: but the dictator's personal vanity projects are much more important than the mere survival of his slaves, aren't they? | Jun 18 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | how do I get it to show file sytem properly from ubuntu phone | Jun 18 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | so can get into .local | Jun 18 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | hmm | Jun 18 20:10 |
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| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: UBports? :) | Jun 18 20:25 |
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| gde33 | https://steemit.com/ai/@gaby-de-wilde/an-objective-comparison-between-humans-ruling-the-world-vs-processes-ruling-the-world | Jun 18 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-steemit.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/r0q4a ] | Jun 18 20:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Debian 9 is released.... | Jun 18 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | I don't use Debian, mainly because of its glacial release pace and the fact that it prioritizes architectures that almost nobody is using. | Jun 18 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | So it slows down the release process for all of them when a bug that only happens on some obscure hardware surfaces. | Jun 18 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | If they pared it down a bit, they could probably release a new Stable every year. | Jun 18 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | At some point over 2 years, it's obvious that Linux 4.9 will no longer suffice if you're trying to get Stable installed on a new computer. | Jun 18 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | The backport kernels should be thrown in on updated installation media to help people with newer hardware who can't get the machine to boot on an older kernel. | Jun 18 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | That's the real sticking point for me. I guess Linux 4.9 is good enough to install and make most of my hardware work, but Skylake wasn't very reliable until around 4.10, and Intel is still squashing bugs and enabling new features for power saving and stuff. | Jun 18 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously Debian isn't going to be much fun if I install it and have to live with a laptop that gets 15% less battery runtime. | Jun 18 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | I actually got new complaints on boot with Linux 4.11 though. | Jun 18 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | It nags that it can't initialize the TPM. :P | Jun 18 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | I think I have a BIOS setting to disable the TPM though. I may just go ahead and turn it off to disable the warning. | Jun 18 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | I think what actually happened though is that 4.11 has a driver for the TPM but not the firmware, so it's aware that a TPM is present but that it can't bring it up. | Jun 18 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | Older kernels didn't know it was there, so didn't complain. | Jun 18 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how a TPM would benefit me though, so I don't much care. | Jun 18 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | I see that Debian doesn't support Secure Boot. I'm sort of split on what to think of it. It *could* be a useful security mechanism but the user should also be allowed to customize it or turn it off. My laptop just has on/off, and I keep it on because it's not hurting anything. | Jun 18 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | I don't plan to use out-of-tree modules or a custom kernel. | Jun 18 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | It could theoretically frustrate malware. | Jun 18 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Future kernels will have "kernel lockdown" when in Secure Boot mode, which will stop things in userspace from directly accessing certain resources, like the system firmware services. | Jun 18 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Security, Microsoft style! | Jun 18 21:08 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Where your operating system can accidentally start a malicious program by attempting to scan it for malicious programs! | Jun 18 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Tavis Ormandy found at least two separate bugs in Windows Defender where this can happen. | Jun 18 21:09 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: That's actually not that unusual for "antiviruses" | Jun 18 21:09 |
| XRevan86 | Of course, Windows Defender is special because one cannot turn it off on Windows 10 :) | Jun 18 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, Defender has a Virtual Machine where it simulates what would happen if the program ran, and it's supposed to be sandboxed to protect the rest of the system, but Ormandy found some ways to escape the sandbox and use Windows Defender to automatically start your malware for you. | Jun 18 21:11 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Wait, what? | Jun 18 21:11 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: That's a very special level of stupid! | Jun 18 21:11 |
| XRevan86 | Everybody knows sandboxing is never perfect | Jun 18 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently not Microsoft... | Jun 18 21:13 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I presume it runs it as soon as finds the binary, right? | Jun 18 21:13 |
| XRevan86 | from the creators of autorun.inf on USB sticks, ladies and gentlemen | Jun 18 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, in these situations, as soon as the malware runs in the VM/sandbox environment, it exploits one of the flaws in the VM/sandbox, escapes, and gets to run on the actual system, but it gets worse. Defender runs with System level permissions, which is actually higher than Administrator on Windows. | Jun 18 21:14 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: That figures | Jun 18 21:15 |
| XRevan86 | that with that level of sandbox trust they wouldn't sandbox the sandbox :) | Jun 18 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | So once the malware is running as System, courtesy of Microsoft, it can basically do anything it wants, including kernel patching, which "PatchGuard" normally would stop, even for a process running as Administrator. | Jun 18 21:16 |
| MinceR | 18 221222 < XRevan86> Everybody knows sandboxing is never perfect | Jun 18 21:16 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I bet the idea looked great on paper for the directors board :) | Jun 18 21:17 |
| MinceR | the people responsible for "modern" web browsers and the proliferation of javascript do not understand this | Jun 18 21:17 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Jun 18 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Once you can patch the Windows kernel, you can add a malicious unsigned driver to it and BAM, you're a rootkit, and cloaked from further detection, at least while Windows is running. (Although a live environment antivirus that mounts your Windows partition might still be able to find and kill it.) | Jun 18 21:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They kinda do | Jun 18 21:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They just do it anyway for the sake of convinience | Jun 18 21:18 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: then they're malicious | Jun 18 21:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: At least they try to overcome this | Jun 18 21:19 |
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| XRevan86 | And Microsoft seems to just have pink goggles on | Jun 18 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86: Running the malware in a simulated environment is risky, but they probably moved to that because old style heuristics don't work well when the code is obfuscated. | Jun 18 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | And it's easy to get false positives with cases like that. Like, remember when old versions of uTorrent were detected as viruses. | Jun 18 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | Or keygens or cracked EXEs with no DRM. | Jun 18 21:20 |
| XRevan86 | > Or keygens or cracked EXEs with no DRM | Jun 18 21:20 |
| XRevan86 | I thought that's intentional | Jun 18 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | Not malicious, but the antivirus flagged it because the idea was there was something weird about the file and it was better to be wrong . | Jun 18 21:20 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Still a risky idea | Jun 18 21:21 |
| XRevan86 | and they made it mandatory | Jun 18 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I've been talking about this on Facebook. | Jun 18 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | I added, Imagine what going to the doctor would be like if the doctor was like a Windows antivirus program. You can't be sure of anything the doctor is telling you because they're all frequently wrong, but they could be right, so you head over to "DoctorTotal" and ask all of them, and 12 of 43 say it's cancer. | Jun 18 21:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 21:23 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: And then the prescription the doctor gives is mandatory | Jun 18 21:24 |
| XRevan86 | like in an institution | Jun 18 21:24 |
| XRevan86 | - Okay, I don't know for sure but I'm prescribing you Haloperidolum. | Jun 18 21:25 |
| XRevan86 | - Do I have to? | Jun 18 21:25 |
| XRevan86 | - Yes, yes you have to. | Jun 18 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | We're going to have to take that leg son, it could be gangrene. | Jun 18 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | Are you sure? | Jun 18 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | Well, 39% sure... | Jun 18 21:26 |
| XRevan86 | Can I see another doctor? | Jun 18 21:26 |
| XRevan86 | - E'nope | Jun 18 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, for whatever good it will do. That weird Russian doctor nobody has ever heard of says it should be fine. | Jun 18 21:27 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: The famous Dr. Cherezzhopov? | Jun 18 21:27 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: what are your thoughts on noatime vs relatine on ssd? | Jun 18 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Speaking of doctors, one late night comedian posted a picture of Trump's personal physician. | Jun 18 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | Said he looked like the guy that sold you mushrooms at Burning Man. | Jun 18 21:28 |
| XRevan86 | ("Cherez zhopu" means "through the arse", couldn't resist to make that even though nobody would understand) | Jun 18 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: noatime doesn't have too many drawbacks, but it can stop a significant amount of mostly useless writes. | Jun 18 21:29 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: sure, but what about relatime? | Jun 18 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | Mutt might have trouble with it, but Ted T'so mentioned a workaround for that. | Jun 18 21:29 |
| MinceR | "relatime gives the same speed (and flash write cycle conservation) benefits as noatime, without causing trouble to old-fashioned mail notifiers." | Jun 18 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | relatime can still cause a lot of writes. | Jun 18 21:29 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Say you're working with a ton of small files that you're frequently creating or destroying. | Jun 18 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Like a git clone would still cause a bunch of writes. | Jun 18 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's probably not too much different one way or the other for a normal user, but since there are basically no drawbacks to noatime, I use noatime. | Jun 18 21:31 |
| MinceR | i see | Jun 18 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | And you don't need to use nodiratime anymore because noatime covers that too now. | Jun 18 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | Man, these Debian 9 Live images are huge. | Jun 18 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | WTF are they putting in there? | Jun 18 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | The Gnome live image is about 700 MB larger than Fedora. | Jun 18 21:34 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/lNF425r.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/Cw6d5 ) | Jun 18 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Industrial chocolate sculpture | Jun 18 21:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | Fedora uses xz compression on live images though. Debian might not. | Jun 18 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora also has the advantage of Delta RPM, whereas Debian-based distributions have to download an entire package for every update. | Jun 18 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | If you connection is metered, then definitely use Fedora. | Jun 18 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Or CentOS. CentOS 7.x has Delta RPMs. | Jun 18 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | I might just go ahead and clobber Fedora and install CentOS 8 whenever it ships. | Jun 18 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to be on a long term stable distribution, but Debian is not that distribution. | Jun 18 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | When they say Stable is FROZEN, they mean it. | Jun 18 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | It gets crusty really fast. | Jun 18 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat backports a lot of things like drivers to their Enterprise Linux kernel. | Jun 18 21:37 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6h2rvk/why_do_people_dislike_pulseaudio/ | Jun 18 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why do people dislike PulseAudio? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r0qaw ] | Jun 18 21:37 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, it is true that it exposed a lot of bugs in ALSA that have since been fixed. | Jun 18 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | And Ubuntu 8.04 was a horrible mess. | Jun 18 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | I had all sort of sound issues in Ubuntu 8.04 that just didn't happen in Fedora. | Jun 18 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu almost always has a lot of weird bugs. | Jun 18 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | They pull from Debian Unstable and try to sort everything out in a matter of months, for starters. | Jun 18 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | And the problem is made worse by hundreds of Ubuntu patches and people at Canonical that clearly have no idea what they are doing. | Jun 18 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | How many releases now have had that broken dnsmasq setup that causes page load errors? | Jun 18 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | That was there 4 years ago and still there in 17.04. | Jun 18 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | They just do an unbelievably shitty job most of the time .The LTS releases are a little better because they're more conservative to begin with, which gets them better packages to start out with. | Jun 18 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer4 mins · Chicago · Trying out MP3 for the first time in about 10 years. The LAME encoder has gotten a lot better. The fact that MP3 is in the public domain now means we can do whatever we want with it without patent threats and licensing demands from Fruenhofer and Technicolor (Thomson Consumer Electronics). Despite the former patent holders declaring MP3 dead, it is, in fact, still the only format that any hardwar | Jun 18 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | e will definitely play, and although technically inferior to Vorbis, it's not "terrible", and thanks to the patent expiration, MP3 is now (legally) just as Free (as in freedom) as Ogg Vorbis is. It's possible that MP3 stores could even lower their prices since they no longer owe any royalties for the format itself. Be free, MP3! Be free! | Jun 18 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6hzaxx/systemd_falls_back_to_google_nameservers_when_no/ | Jun 18 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Systemd falls back to Google nameservers when no nameservers are configured : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r0qea ] | Jun 18 22:02 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer1 min · Chicago · So, I was looking at the notes for the LAME MP3 encoder and I stumbled onto something that's pretty bad. Versions 3.98.1 and higher enforce ISO standards compliance because some Fruenhofer decoder libraries, such as the ones that shipped with Windows Media Player up through Windows Vista would crash if you used certain MP3s encoded by LAME. The problem was that LAME was trying to make the most ef | Jun 18 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | ficient usage of MP3's bit reservoir and that conflicted with the MP3 standard in a way where the behavior was undefined. Many decoders worked just fine, but at least Windows Media Player would crash. The solution was to not use the bit reservoir as efficiently on 320 kbps frames. Fortunately, in Variable Bitrate Mode, few frames are 320 kbps frames and the bit reservoir becomes far less utilized anyway, so the file bloat primari | Jun 18 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | ly effect CBR 320 MP3s (which will be 2-3% bigger than they would have been under the previous bit reservoir strategy) and to a lesser extent VBR at V0 and V1. The V2 settings and lower aren't affected much. Thanks Microsoft! | Jun 18 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | *affects | Jun 18 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer1 min · Chicago · So, I was looking at the notes for the LAME MP3 encoder and I stumbled onto something that's pretty bad. Versions 3.98.1 and higher enforce ISO standards compliance because some Fruenhofer decoder libraries, such as the ones that shipped with Windows Media Player up through Windows Vista would crash if you used certain MP3s encoded by LAME. The problem was that LAME was trying to make the most ef | Jun 18 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | ficient usage of MP3's bit reservoir and that conflicted with the MP3 standard in a way where the behavior was undefined. Many decoders worked just fine, but at least Windows Media Player would crash. The solution was to not use the bit reservoir as efficiently on 320 kbps frames. Fortunately, in Variable Bitrate Mode, few frames are 320 kbps frames and the bit reservoir becomes far less utilized anyway, so the file bloat primari | Jun 18 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | ly effect CBR 320 MP3s (which will be 2-3% bigger than they would have been under the previous bit reservoir strategy) and to a lesser extent VBR at V0 and V1. The V2 settings and lower aren't affected much. Thanks Microsoft! | Jun 18 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Jun 18 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | I meant to add... | Jun 18 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Having studied the behavior of the Fruenhofer encoders that support VBR, none of them use frames bigger than 256kbps. Is this why? LAME (in my experience) always produces better MP3 files than other encoders. In fact, the only other encoder that was ever close was Xing/Helix. (I don't know what became of those. RealNetworks licensed the code under the open source MIT X11 license, so someone could use any part of it they want... | Jun 18 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | ) | Jun 18 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | So the FhG encoders will avoid the bit bloat problem *and* avoid crashing certain versions of their own decoder, including the one that shipped with Windows Media Player for many years, at the expense of quality. | Jun 18 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | The encoder used is as or more important than the file format. | Jun 18 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | You can get great results with MP3 (LAME) or terrible results with AAC (FAAC). | Jun 18 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ogg Vorbis hasn't really been tuned as much. Chris Montgomery has focused more on avoiding potential regressions than tuning Vorbis. | Jun 18 22:11 |
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| DaemonFC | Yeah, MP3 is "dead". I'm sure Amazon and 7digital will go running to MPEG-LA begging to pay royalties again for the AAC format that isn't a lot better. | Jun 18 22:23 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/y54ndVj.gif | Jun 18 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | Apple is part of the MPEG-LA. They were really the first and only music store to adopt the format. | Jun 18 22:23 |
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| MinceR | https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a3qXeQr_700b.jpg (sauce: https://9gag.com/gag/a3qXeQr ) | Jun 18 22:33 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Why specifically Ramadan? Christianity has a celebration of hunger too: Pascha^W Easter | Jun 18 22:37 |
| MinceR | that was in another part of the year | Jun 18 22:37 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ramadan is today? | Jun 18 22:38 |
| XRevan86 | * tomonth %) | Jun 18 22:38 |
| MinceR | 2017 date 27 May \u2013 24 June (Umm al-Qura)[1][2] | Jun 18 22:39 |
| cubexyz | clear | Jun 18 22:46 |
| cubexyz | oops | Jun 18 22:46 |
| cubexyz | I don't suppose anyone knows how to reset a video driver in linux | Jun 18 22:48 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What do you mean, reset? | Jun 18 22:49 |
| cubexyz | I'll give an example... | Jun 18 22:49 |
| cubexyz | your screen is blank | Jun 18 22:49 |
| cubexyz | you can't see anything you type | Jun 18 22:50 |
| cubexyz | mouse does nothing (nothing visible anyways) | Jun 18 22:50 |
| cubexyz | but... | Jun 18 22:50 |
| cubexyz | you can ssh into the computer | Jun 18 22:50 |
| cubexyz | so is there a way to reset the video driver so you can see again? | Jun 18 22:50 |
| cubexyz | I want to at least get the text console working | Jun 18 22:51 |
| cubexyz | ok... init 4 does sometimes work | Jun 18 22:54 |
| cubexyz | this is on slack | Jun 18 22:55 |
| cubexyz | and init 4 makes it go back into KDE :-/ | Jun 18 22:55 |
| cubexyz | kdm_greet just needs to be told to use icewm or something lighter | Jun 18 22:57 |
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| DaemonFC | Richard Stallman supported Vorbis under the BSD license because he was worried that MP3 would be the done thing if Vorbis didn't gain traction. | Jun 18 23:01 |
| cubexyz | I think Fedora used to use runlevel 5 for full multi-user with X-based login | Jun 18 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | What happened was that MP3 as the the done thing anyway, Vorbis was largely ignored, and eventually the MP3 patents expired. | Jun 18 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | So the MP3 problem is gone now, but we had to wait an awfully long time for that. | Jun 18 23:01 |
| cubexyz | at least FC1 did, don't know about now | Jun 18 23:01 |
| cubexyz | there's something goofy going on with the text console on slack | Jun 18 23:03 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/kHJhMjW.gifv | Jun 18 23:15 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3 Up to MP3 2.0 has gone patent end. | Jun 18 23:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Latest round of backports PPA updates include Plasma | Jun 18 23:16 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://www.audioblog.iis.fraunhofer.com/mp3-software-patents-licenses/ the licencing program has ended. As we don't know if all the data on 2.5 mp3 will be released. | Jun 18 23:17 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: disgusting | Jun 18 23:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Smelly_Henry/status/876565155211087873 | Jun 18 23:20 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 23:21 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 18 23:27 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 18 23:27 |
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| razielle_tzu | hi sebsebseb | Jun 18 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ok perfect you can probably help me :d | Jun 18 23:29 |
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| razielle_tzu | depends what with | Jun 18 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: a few issues with my MX 4 Ubuntu Edition now | Jun 18 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: so preparing to factory re set, and then re flash with ubports, may try out fly me os first since its meizu | Jun 18 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | anyway | Jun 18 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | videos off it | Jun 18 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | images off it | Jun 18 23:30 |
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| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: but one thing I want to back up myself copy is the texts first | Jun 18 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | which are stored in a database, but getting access to that database is the thing | Jun 18 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: looks lilke can try and copy the file on the phone into say downloads or documents, or use a ssh server and scp | Jun 18 23:31 |
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| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: how do I cp into a folder? | Jun 18 23:31 |
| razielle_tzu | i kinda know how to do that with android but not ubuntu, i told you this before | Jun 18 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: yes, but that shoudn't matter see here | Jun 18 23:32 |
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| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/342/how-do-i-or-would-i-a-few-things | Jun 18 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.ubports.com | How do I or would I a few things | UBports Forum [ http://ur1.ca/r0qqm ] | Jun 18 23:32 | |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: its just standard linuxey command stuff really now | Jun 18 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | if I can copy the hidden file over to say documents, I can get access from normal usb with mtp, I thinik that's what he meant in last comment | Jun 18 23:33 |
| razielle_tzu | that last comment gives you the exact command for copying the sqlite database, all you need to do is input the user and ip in place of the <user>@<ubuntu pc ip address> | Jun 18 23:34 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YDAl0yZyrA | Jun 18 23:34 |
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| razielle_tzu | same with the person before telling you the exact rsync command for backing the whole image up | Jun 18 23:34 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: yes that's the next thing | Jun 18 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: but not going to risk losing my texts | Jun 18 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | I do that later on | Jun 18 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | rsync | Jun 18 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | there's guide for that even on wiki | Jun 18 23:35 |
| razielle_tzu | rsync just copies everything on the phone to a computer's hdd, it doesn't delete anything | Jun 18 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: I don't tend to use the cp command, but should be able to copp from one folder into another | Jun 18 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: oh yeah rsync used that for mageia isos in the past pre testing oens | Jun 18 23:36 |
| sebsebseb | but still I like the idea of being able to copy the texts seperatly | Jun 18 23:36 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: so I copy the file on the phone terminal, hopefuly that owrks, then need to put it into say documents folder on the phone | Jun 18 23:37 |
| sebsebseb | how to do that? | Jun 18 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2017/06/msg00017.html | Jun 18 23:37 |
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| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: send a copy of this file, to this folder, how ? | Jun 18 23:38 |
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| razielle_tzu | the phone terminal command tells it to copy the db to a folder on your computer NOT a folder on the phone | Jun 18 23:43 |
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| cubexyz | I guess it boils down to whether or not I can rmmod the video driver module | Jun 18 23:58 |
| cubexyz | so far I've never been able to do that, not that I can remember | Jun 18 23:58 |
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| cubexyz | and there's alt-SysReq-r | Jun 18 23:59 |
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| cubexyz | between slack and suspend/resume, exiting X and flipping alt-ctrl-f1 etc it seems to put the video card into a bad state | Jun 19 00:01 |
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| cubexyz | obviously I'm not doing all that on the server, so I guess that leads to greater reliability | Jun 19 00:02 |
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| cubexyz | on the vector box suspend/resume doesn't work and I don't have any problem going from X to framebuffer and back again | Jun 19 00:04 |
| cubexyz | although once radeonfb is loaded, that's it | Jun 19 00:04 |
| cubexyz | I can't rmmod it | Jun 19 00:04 |
| cubexyz | there's no radeonfb reset possible... it's "in use" at that point | Jun 19 00:05 |
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| cubexyz | of course, I could just leave X alone, but I like to experiment | Jun 19 00:08 |
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| cubexyz | on the G4 chromebook I don't seem to have any problems | Jun 19 00:08 |
| cubexyz | I can suspend/resume a hundred times, and it just works | Jun 19 00:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Graphics/Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:18 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux Devices: Raspberry Pi, Cars, and More https://t.co/VQTNrne6MQ...' | Jun 19 00:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Recent #GNU #Linux #Podcasts https://t.co/TrzioITphH | Jun 19 00:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CoreOS and OpenStack News | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Recent #GNU #Linux #Podcasts https://t.co/TrzioITphH #freesw' | Jun 19 00:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop: Star #Labtop, Multiboot, Workstation Guide and | Jun 19 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Laptop Reviews https://t.co/tMxPtWqzSl | Jun 19 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 00:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Psst, Kid? Heard you're looking for some science gifs - Album on Imgur | Jun 19 00:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876581734900539394 | Jun 19 00:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/mQaHtDGzDn | Jun 19 00:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #redhat | Jun 19 00:32 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'today's leftovers https://t.co/mQaHtDGzDn #gnu #linux #redhat' | Jun 19 00:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 18/6/2017: New Debian Release, Catchup With a Lot | Jun 19 00:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of News https://t.co/NgWE767jtv (techrights.org) | Jun 19 00:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/6/2017: New Debian Release, Catchup With a Lot of News | Techrights | Jun 19 00:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sockeyes51_bot retweeted @tuxmachines: '#CoreOS and #OpenStack News https://t.co/aWPfnBoduO #server #container #gnu...' | Jun 19 00:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today’s leftovers https://t.co/4kNOatASXz | Jun 19 00:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #redhat | Jun 19 00:36 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today’s leftovers https://t.co/4kNOatASXz #gnu #linux #redhat' | Jun 19 00:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/876584631939862528 | Jun 19 00:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Distro Reviews: #PuppyLinux #Slacko, #ArcaOS, #Wifislax, | Jun 19 00:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec #PeppermintOS, and #BlankOn https://t.co/pLLWznCrBp | Jun 19 00:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #os2 | Jun 19 00:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distro Reviews: Puppy Linux Slacko, ArcaOS, Wifislax, Peppermint, and BlankOn | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/876587098253537280 | Jun 19 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today’s leftovers https://t.co/4kNOatASXz | Jun 19 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #redhat | Jun 19 00:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/vee_liang/status/876592780637687808 | Jun 19 01:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Chakra #GNU #Linux Users Get #KDE #Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop | Jun 19 01:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @vee_liang Built Against Qt 5.9 https://t.co/hkjVuw3k7m | Jun 19 01:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop Built Against Qt 5.9 | Tux Machines | Jun 19 01:13 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/inkscape-krita-windows-store | Jun 19 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Two Popular Open-Source Apps Are Now Available in the Windows Store - OMG! Ubuntu! [ http://ur1.ca/r0r6g ] | Jun 19 01:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Krita costs $9.75 on the Windows store, but Microsoft gets a third of that. | Jun 19 01:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876687433533984768 | Jun 19 07:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #DebianEdu 9 "Stretch" Released as a Complete GNU/Linux | Jun 19 07:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solution for Schools https://t.co/4Pzq4tmf2A | Jun 19 07:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian #gnu #linux #eduation | Jun 19 07:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Edu 9 "Stretch" Released as a Complete GNU/Linux Solution for Schools | Tux Machines | Jun 19 07:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/876687676149125120 | Jun 19 07:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 18/6/2017: New Debian Release, Catchup With a Lot | Jun 19 07:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz of News https://t.co/NgWE767jtv (techrights.org) | Jun 19 07:27 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#DebianEdu 9 "Stretch" Released as a Complete GNU/Linux...' | Jun 19 07:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/6/2017: New Debian Release, Catchup With a Lot of News | Techrights | Jun 19 07:27 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @bob_moss retweeted @tuxmachines: '#DebianEdu 9 "Stretch" Released as a Complete GNU/Linux...' | Jun 19 07:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876690460781281280 | Jun 19 07:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #TheSSS 22.0 Linux Server Out with Kernel 4.9.13, #Apache | Jun 19 07:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2.4.25 & #MariaDB 10.2.6 https://t.co/Xky4vyneU2 | Jun 19 07:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 07:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TheSSS 22.0 Linux Server Out with Kernel 4.9.13, Apache 2.4.25 & MariaDB 10.2.6 | Tux Machines | Jun 19 07:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876694643756478465 | Jun 19 07:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Swimming with #SharkLinux https://t.co/NZBKaJFq0x | Jun 19 07:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (distrowatch.com) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 07:54 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Swimming with #SharkLinux https://t.co/NZBKaJFq0x #gnu #linux' | Jun 19 07:56 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | KDE Plasma 5.11 will have built-in Night Color feature! : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r0tft ] | Jun 19 08:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Some people prop up a...' | Jun 19 08:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 13 reasons why you need Linux in your life | Jun 19 08:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6ZwRqydU56 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 08:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 13 reasons why you need Linux in your life | Tux Machines | Jun 19 08:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876720814208557056 | Jun 19 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/kbG8lYfDdO | Jun 19 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 19 09:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 19 09:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876721194740875264 | Jun 19 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/XgaixINgxW | Jun 19 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 19 09:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jun 19 09:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/876722956508024832 | Jun 19 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos https://t.co/kbG8lYfDdO | Jun 19 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 19 10:05 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CraigMurrayOrg @wikileaks That's what one gets for speaking...' | Jun 19 10:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876732569068457984 | Jun 19 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #Debian, #Ubuntu and Derivatives | Jun 19 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cEiTDgAbEK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 19 10:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian, Ubuntu and Derivatives | Tux Machines | Jun 19 10:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876733004147765248 | Jun 19 10:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora : Atomic/Cloud Test Day, AMA, and New Features | Jun 19 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1Y1BJkiBON (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 19 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #f26 #gnu #linux | Jun 19 10:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: Atomic/Cloud Test Day, AMA, and New Features | Tux Machines | Jun 19 10:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: #Debian, #Ubuntu and Derivatives https://t.co/cEiTDgAbEK' | Jun 19 10:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/876789393326985221 | Jun 19 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Ubuntu, #UBports, Quick Look at Ubuntu 17.10, | Jun 19 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tecknocrat #UbuntuStudio, and #elementaryOS https://t.co/UOJH6DyJi9 | Jun 19 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 14:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu, UBports, Quick Look at Ubuntu 17.10, Ubuntu Studio, and elementaryOS | Tux Machines | Jun 19 14:11 | |
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| schestowitz | old | Jun 19 15:33 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: old | Jun 19 15:33 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: old | Jun 19 15:33 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: do you have those old logs in tact? | Jun 19 15:33 |
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| MinceR | i do | Jun 19 15:33 |
| schestowitz | thanks, as long as we don't lose them | Jun 19 15:33 |
| MinceR | but i haven't organized them fully | Jun 19 15:33 |
| MinceR | got sidetracked | Jun 19 15:33 |
| schestowitz | next year 10-year anniversary | Jun 19 15:33 |
| MinceR | http://img.pr0gramm.com/2017/06/19/bed2edc323aa0872.jpg | Jun 19 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876816228685422592 | Jun 19 15:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | That's random: OpenBSD adds more kernel security | Jun 19 15:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fJ4eN6bLRv (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 19 15:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | That's random: OpenBSD adds more kernel security | Tux Machines | Jun 19 15:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876816452048883712 | Jun 19 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How to install Linux on a Chromebook (and why you should) | Jun 19 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/QsxtTIiCeQ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gentoo #chromebook #nsa #prism | Jun 19 16:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Kernel Space: New LTS, #Mesa 17.1.3, and More #Graphics | Jun 19 17:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Kernel Space: New LTS, #Mesa 17.1.3, and More #Graphics | Jun 19 17:44 |
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| XRevan86 | humans | Jun 19 18:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New #SparkyLinux Tool Notifies Users About New Updates | Jun 19 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Right on Their Desktops https://t.co/CHqwmDjQsv | Jun 19 19:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876871467723620353 | Jun 19 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linus #Torvalds Hopes to Release the #Linux 4.12 Kernel | Jun 19 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in Two Weeks, on July 2 https://t.co/BYjpNDa1NO | Jun 19 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernel | Jun 19 19:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds Hopes to Release the Linux 4.12 Kernel in Two Weeks, on July 2 | Tux Machines | Jun 19 19:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876872259604008960 | Jun 19 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Is IoT the Future of Linux? https://t.co/OBCa0OjyNV | Jun 19 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #iot | Jun 19 19:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is IoT the Future of Linux? | Tux Machines | Jun 19 19:43 | |
| DaemonFC | I'd be interested to know what Red Hat does with their Enterprise Linux kernels. | Jun 19 19:43 |
| schestowitz | ask their NSA partners | Jun 19 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | They used to break out the patch sets and now they release the kernel source with patches already applied. | Jun 19 19:44 |
| schestowitz | maybe for added security they squeeze in things | Jun 19 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitzWell, if you compile the GPL'd source the same way they do, it turns into the same binary. | Jun 19 19:44 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/11/28/microsoft_update_servers_left_all_azure_rhel_instances_hackable/ | Jun 19 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Microsoft update servers left all Azure RHEL instances hackable • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/qohsg ] | Jun 19 19:44 | |
| DaemonFC | So it's not closed source, but it's hard to see exactly what they've done. | Jun 19 19:44 |
| schestowitz | yes, it is | Jun 19 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | They did it to frustrate Oracle from what I can tell. | Jun 19 19:45 |
| schestowitz | and sometimes the NSA bribes or blackmails engineers | Jun 19 19:45 |
| schestowitz | to insert what they will later call "oops" of "bug" | Jun 19 19:45 |
| schestowitz | we know this also because earlier this month Telegram's founder wrote something to that effect | Jun 19 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Well, it would have to be in the kernel source somewhere. | Jun 19 19:45 |
| MinceR | they did things to frustrate me as well, so fuck them | Jun 19 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | Without knowing where to look, it would be hard to spot. | Jun 19 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | And they could just say it was an accident if anyone noticed. | Jun 19 19:46 |
| schestowitz | speak to insider | Jun 19 19:46 |
| schestowitz | esp. build team | Jun 19 19:46 |
| schestowitz | they know how it's done | Jun 19 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | Well, after RHEL started doing this, Oracle Linux has had to ship two kernels. | Jun 19 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | You load one, it's RHEL compatible. You load the other, it's got all of Oracle's stuff. | Jun 19 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | It makes their distribution less valuable, because before they were taking the RHEL kernel and adding their own stuff to it and claiming that they had a RHEL compatible kernel with all of their stuff in it too. | Jun 19 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | Now if you boot into the Oracle kernel, it's impossible to say whether it's *really* 100% compatible with RHEL. | Jun 19 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle says that it is, but users have found out otherwise in some cases. | Jun 19 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure why people think that BtrFS is so great. If it's so great then why is it such a slug? | Jun 19 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876873032794615808 | Jun 19 19:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Open Source will Overtake Proprietary Software by | Jun 19 19:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2020 | Jun 19 19:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/J4e54jmYaY (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 19 19:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Open Source will Overtake Proprietary Software by 2020 | Tux Machines | Jun 19 19:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | It's not an answer to ZFS. That's why Ubuntu ships ZFS. | Jun 19 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | They package it wrong, but since when has that stopped them? :P | Jun 19 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | ZFS doesn't have huge memory requirements. Or CPU requirements, for that matter. I was running it on a laptop with 1 GB of RAM and a Sempron 3000 Mobile processor a long time ago as part of OpenSolaris. | Jun 19 19:52 |
| MinceR | only if you enable the features that make zfs worth using? :> | Jun 19 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't use deduplication, you're fine. | Jun 19 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | If you do, then big memory is nice. | Jun 19 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | Also, ZFS makes some assumptions about the system that Linux has a hard time meeting. | Jun 19 19:54 |
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| DaemonFC | So if you are going to run ZFS, it's better to do it on 64-bit Linux. | Jun 19 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | It uses virtual address space heavily, which is normal in Solaris, but discouraged by Linux. | Jun 19 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | So other than that.... I mean, on a decent computer, you should be okay. The biggest pitfall is that Ubuntu will do something dumb and cause your data to be trashed. | Jun 19 19:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 19 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Or your machine to become unbootable if you put / on ZFS. | Jun 19 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | That was never supported by Ubuntu. Some people figured out how to do it anyway and got burned bad by Ubuntu 17.04. | Jun 19 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | The solution is, if you REALLY want ZFS on Ubuntu, put your /boot and / on another file system. | Jun 19 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | You could do Ext4 /boot, XFS /, ZFS /home. | Jun 19 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | openSUSE does something similar, only it's BtrFS for /home. | Jun 19 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | I don't really want some exotic and barely tested file system running on a machine that I need to be stable though. | Jun 19 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | That's why I'm simply using Ext4 and leaving it alone. | Jun 19 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | BtrFS is never going to be "ready" if by "ready" you mean "performs well". | Jun 19 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's got a ton of features built into the file system, but most of those features are available in Ext4 either in the file system, at the vfs level, or in the kernel's LVM, RAID, and drive encryption facilities. | Jun 19 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | If you need them. | Jun 19 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | I have yet to see a benchmark where BtrFS is a well rounded file system that competes well with Ext4 or XFS. | Jun 19 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | It almost always beats them on things like sqlite, but loses badly on everything else. | Jun 19 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | I honestly think at this point that we're more likely to see an Ext5 than have BtrFS become the standard Linux file system. | Jun 19 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Ext4 is a really great file system. Even if you only mount your Ext3 file system with it and don't change the on disk format, you get a lot of wins. | Jun 19 20:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/elbekgt/status/876875798812254215 | Jun 19 20:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @elbekgt 2020 | Jun 19 20:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/J4e54jmYaY (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 19 20:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Ext2/3 do a lot of things very inefficiently, so just mounting them with the Ext4 driver (like Fedora does), you get a better block allocator and some other things. | Jun 19 20:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Where Ext3 might call the block allocator 100,000 different times to write one file and risk having the file get fragmented, Ext4 will use an extent, preallocate the space needed, and then call its multiblock allocator one time. | Jun 19 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | So I was thrilled to update to Ext4. In fact, I was using it when it was still not quite supported even by Fedora. | Jun 19 20:07 |
| MinceR | yeah, and if you lose power, your filesystem will be hosed | Jun 19 20:08 |
| MinceR | but oh look, it's so fest | Jun 19 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Actually, this was fixed. | Jun 19 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | it syncs the file system every 5 seconds or so. So it hasn't displayed the file loss behavior since around 2.6.28 iirc. | Jun 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ancient history. | Jun 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ted T'so was correct that it wasn't really the file system that was broken. | Jun 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Applications can always call sync, and they weren't always doing it and there was no reasonable expectation that all of them would be fixed. | Jun 19 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | Now that Ext4 comes along and forces one every now and then, app developers are going to continue to expect that and they will make even more broken apps. | Jun 19 20:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, only its default settings suck ass because of their stupid assumptions | Jun 19 20:12 |
| MinceR | and because ricing is more important than safety | Jun 19 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | Well, for lack of anything better. :P | Jun 19 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | JFS and ReiserFS are not an option. | Jun 19 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | They remain in the kernel because they still have some users, but they're not a good choice. | Jun 19 20:13 |
| MinceR | well, eventually it got to the point where if you're careful with your mount options, ext4 can actually work reliably | Jun 19 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | They also don't support SELinux file system labeling. | Jun 19 20:13 |
| MinceR | but i don't get why they had to go full retard after ext3 | Jun 19 20:13 |
| MinceR | http://direman.com/direman/comics/00001666.png | Jun 19 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | JFS can delay writing indefinitely so it's conceivable that any amount of data could be lost. | Jun 19 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | Enterprise file systems sometimes are designed like that on the assumption that you need high performance and you're going to have a battery backup on a system that uses it. | Jun 19 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | Also, there's one guy at IBM that works on JFS part-time. | Jun 19 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | That mostly means just making sure it doesn't break. | Jun 19 20:16 |
| MinceR | if performance is infinitely more important than reliability, you might as well just store your data in /dev/null | Jun 19 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | It has been in maintenance mode ever since it was merged. | Jun 19 20:16 |
| MinceR | it's really fast | Jun 19 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: If you have backups and there's a UPS then it's less of a problem. | Jun 19 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | JFS wasn't designed for your desktop computer. | Jun 19 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | There were actually two different JFS file systems that shared some common design. | Jun 19 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | The version in OS/2 and the version in AIX. | Jun 19 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | The version from AIX is what got GPL'd and merged into Linux. | Jun 19 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | When Serenity Systems couldn't get IBM to open source the JFS for OS/2 code, they ended up getting rid of it and porting the version from Linux to eComStation (OS/2) as an Installable File System. | Jun 19 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | IBM says that they won't ever be able to open source OS/2 even though they never plan to do anything with it again because much of the code is copyright Microsoft and Microsoft won't allow them to. | Jun 19 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | Much of the Microsoft OS/2 code ended up in Windows NT. | Jun 19 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | They had constant arguments between Microsoft and IBM. IBM would go and design something that was horribly bloated and then Microsoft would come by and optimize it, and IBM said that they were doing "negative work" because IBM considered development progress by number of source lines of code. | Jun 19 20:21 |
| MinceR | i heard a different story | Jun 19 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | That's when Bill Gates made the comment that judging progress by lines of code is like saying you made the best airplane because it's really heavy. | Jun 19 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | Or something like that. | Jun 19 20:22 |
| MinceR | where IBM worked properly and documented their code properly while m$ just hacked some shit up without documentation and immediately forgot how it worked | Jun 19 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I wouldn't go that far. | Jun 19 20:22 |
| MinceR | i'm not going to go to gates for software engineering advice | Jun 19 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | The leaked Windows 2000 source even shows that they aren't THAT bad. | Jun 19 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | But as time went on, they improved from where they were at with Win2K. | Jun 19 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | They moved app compatibility hacks out of the NT Kernel and into their own profiles. | Jun 19 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | That way they can just delete them later when the software in question is so old that nobody uses it | Jun 19 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | Without having to remember which source code file they put it in. | Jun 19 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | Linux has to implement some Windows-like behavior to run on PCs. Actually, a lot of Windows-like behavior, especially power management. | Jun 19 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | Device manufacturers frequently won't say how power management works, so the Windows driver *becomes* the documentation. :/ | Jun 19 20:26 |
| MinceR | they even had app compatibility hacks in their kernel | Jun 19 20:26 |
| MinceR | and they proudly announced that they had a microkernel. | Jun 19 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | The NT kernel itself is pretty small. | Jun 19 20:27 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/51EcTfM.jpg | Jun 19 20:27 |
| MinceR | oh, right | Jun 19 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | They're not counting things like pluggable APIs. | Jun 19 20:27 |
| MinceR | because not everything that runs in kernel mode is the kernel, right? | Jun 19 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | Which they use to reimplement Linux on top of Windows right now. | Jun 19 20:27 |
| MinceR | that's some weapons grade bullshitting right there | Jun 19 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It is a pun or something? | Jun 19 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | lxcore.sys and lxsys.sys I think. | Jun 19 20:27 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: "just let that sink in for a minute." | Jun 19 20:28 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: or "let that sink in" or something like that | Jun 19 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | They said they have a clean room implementation of Linux services. | Jun 19 20:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Oh %) | Jun 19 20:28 |
| MinceR | by the microsoft definition, every kernel is a microkernel | Jun 19 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | There was at least one case where they were returning error messages where the real Linux kernel doesn't. | Jun 19 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | They said they decided to keep the behavior because it wasn't breaking anything that they knew of. | Jun 19 20:28 |
| MinceR | you just point to a single instruction somewhere and claim "this is the kernel, the rest isn't" | Jun 19 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | Someone replied that the Microsoft behavior actually stops metasploit modules from being loaded. | Jun 19 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 19 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if there's any desirable software that it breaks. | Jun 19 20:29 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 20:29 |
| MinceR | presumably someone wrote metasploit not to use it | Jun 19 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I think the Microsoft membership on the Linux Foundation is a bribe so they get away with "Windows Subsystem for Linux" without being sued for trademark infringement. | Jun 19 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | It's actually NOT Linux at any point in the stack, but they pay the Linux Foundation $500,000 a year and they ignore it. | Jun 19 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Even more hilarious, Microsoft calls the rest of the stack "userspace Linux" when it's actually mostly GNU. | Jun 19 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: GNU? What's that? | Jun 19 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Linux is a kernel. Userspace Linux? What's that? | Jun 19 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | Ain't know no GNU | Jun 19 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | it's GPLv3, evil I tell ya | Jun 19 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | A more appropriate name might be GNU/Windows. | Jun 19 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | GNU is really not what Microsoft and Apple would like to work with. | Jun 19 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86: They do ship a LOT of software under the GPLv3 for "WSL". | Jun 19 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | Including Bash.... | Jun 19 20:33 |
| cubexyz | tivoization exists | Jun 19 20:33 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: that must be why one of their patsies is working on forcing systemd down our throats | Jun 19 20:33 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Yeah, they wouldn't if they could I bet though :) | Jun 19 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | Well, they have to have it or the software won't run, but they HATE GNU and the GPL, expecially version 3. | Jun 19 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | As long as they comply with the license, there's not much the FSF could do about it. | Jun 19 20:34 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: That's my point, yes. | Jun 19 20:34 |
| MinceR | they've put every call on dbus so the GPL doesn't force library users to be free software | Jun 19 20:34 |
| XRevan86 | So why would they mention GNU in any way if they can not to. | Jun 19 20:34 |
| MinceR | there doesn't seem to be much the FSF _wants_ to do about it | Jun 19 20:34 |
| MinceR | do they mention GNU? | Jun 19 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Not on any of the Microsoft websites I've read. They call the GNU software "userspace Linux". | Jun 19 20:35 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 20:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Why is that a problem? GPL for a library is pretty restrictive. | Jun 19 20:35 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: because it is not what the author intended | Jun 19 20:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What author? | Jun 19 20:36 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: whoever wrote the library | Jun 19 20:37 |
| XRevan86 | I think I'm missing the point :) | Jun 19 20:37 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If the library is designed in a way it only can be linked, there you have it. | Jun 19 20:37 |
| MinceR | http://www.businessinsider.com/photoshop-banknote-editing-restriction-2015-2 | Jun 19 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Photoshop banknote editing restriction - Business Insider | Jun 19 20:37 | |
| XRevan86 | you can't workaround author's intent like that | Jun 19 20:37 |
| MinceR | sure you can | Jun 19 20:38 |
| MinceR | put a stub in there that converts the call interface to IPC or a network interface, and you're done | Jun 19 20:38 |
| MinceR | guess what poettering is doing to all the interfaces he touches... | Jun 19 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, I see. | Jun 19 20:39 |
| XRevan86 | One could do that without any help though then… | Jun 19 20:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: System's "API" is not something that should enforce GPL though. | Jun 19 20:40 |
| MinceR | it is something that should not even exist | Jun 19 20:40 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: APIs shouldn't exist? o_0 | Jun 19 20:41 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: moving hostname and date to a dbus-dependent interface is a horribly stupid idea | Jun 19 20:41 |
| MinceR | in part because dbus itself sucks | Jun 19 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | An application doesn't become a derived work of the kernel simply for running on the OS in userspace. | Jun 19 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | Torvalds has said this many, many times. | Jun 19 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | You become a derived work of the kernel when you run as part of the kernel. | Jun 19 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | And for sure if you use any of the symbols marked only for GPL modules. | Jun 19 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, Nvidia does this anyway and nobody stops them. | Jun 19 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | They lie and say they're a GPL module and gain access to the symbols and then load their shitty driver. | Jun 19 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | People should really just buy Radeon and Intel graphics that have Free Software drivers throughout the stack. (Except for a little device microcode.) | Jun 19 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | Not only does it work and stay working without fucking around with some out of tree module, you can even keep Secure Boot on if you want, and there are WAY fewer bugs with the running system. | Jun 19 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | I've used Nvidia before, but only in the case when there was no way to really do Free drivers on Linux and run apps that needed high performance rendering. | Jun 19 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | The driver wasn't a pleasant experience. | Jun 19 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | After you install proprietary drivers, you always get more system crashes. | Jun 19 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | They don't have to follow kernel cor X.org coding standards because they aren't part of the kernel or X.org. So they cut corners and abuse every resource they can find and make your system unstable and vulnerable to attacks that wouldn't work on a system with Free drivers. | Jun 19 20:53 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/uTerI | Jun 19 20:57 |
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| MinceR | 19 214757 < DaemonFC> An application doesn't become a derived work of the kernel simply for running on the OS in userspace. | Jun 19 20:57 |
| MinceR | who said it did? | Jun 19 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | You said dbus was an end run around the GPL. | Jun 19 21:00 |
| MinceR | where did i mention the kernel? | Jun 19 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | Hmmm, maybe I misunderstood. | Jun 19 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure that bypassing linking by communicating over dbus to avoid the GPL would hold up in court. | Jun 19 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | It might, but you're in uncharted territory there. | Jun 19 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/876883909455351812 | Jun 19 21:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @AlejosAngel 2.4.25 & #MariaDB 10.2.6 https://t.co/Xky4vyneU2 | Jun 19 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 21:05 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Nvidia gets around it by a condition in GPL called derived. The binary blob in Nvidia driver does not use a single header or structure from the Linux kernel. The wrapper of the nvidia driver is GPL and open source. The wrapper is using headers from the blob. So this way GPL wrapper driver is derived from the blob not the blob derived from GPL work. | Jun 19 23:05 |
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| DaemonFC | https://lwn.net/Articles/725657/ | Jun 20 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.11.6 [LWN.net] | Jun 20 00:00 | |
| DaemonFC | Important update for Intel graphics users. Eight bugs in i915 fixed. | Jun 20 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | xfs: fix spurious spin_is_locked() assert failures on non-smp kernels | Jun 20 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | Someone had CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK on on a non-smp kernel? | Jun 20 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 20 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | Well, nice catch anyway. Wow. | Jun 20 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | That's from the Linux 4.12-rc6 notes. | Jun 20 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer1 min · Chicago · The Supreme Court issued two important rulings today:1. The US federal government can't deny you a trademark solely because someone might be offended by it.2. Sex offenders can't be banned from social media. (Unanimous)The government argued in the first case that trademarks are government speech. Justice Alito, who I often disagree with, issued the court's written opinion, and it was fantastic. It e | Jun 20 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | nded with "Was the government trying to warn people of an impending cataclysmic event when it allowed the 'End Times Ministries' trademark?". | Jun 20 00:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: non smp kernel would be something like a single core cpu nas. | Jun 20 00:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I know a few of them one was using zfs on raid 0 just to be super scary. | Jun 20 00:30 |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable > Microsoft Exec Urges Linux Developers To Try Windows 10 | Jun 20 01:01 |
| cubexyz | ba-hahaha | Jun 20 01:01 |
| cubexyz | how about no? | Jun 20 01:01 |
| cubexyz | extinguish attempt: failed | Jun 20 01:03 |
| cubexyz | adding Microsoft components to a Linux machine is just stupid | Jun 20 01:06 |
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| cubexyz | everyone i've talked to thought win10 was a giant turd | Jun 20 01:13 |
| cubexyz | two examples: | Jun 20 01:13 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/more-win10-fun.txt | Jun 20 01:13 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-botch-up.txt | Jun 20 01:13 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: I know a lot running into windows 10 due to cpu support issue. | Jun 20 01:14 |
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| cubexyz | I update my computer | Jun 20 01:15 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/processors/000006105.html that is the problem. | Jun 20 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel® Processor Support for Microsoft Windows® 10 [ http://ur1.ca/r0x9p ] | Jun 20 01:15 | |
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| oiaohm | A lot of people running windows 7 and 8 got free upgraded to windows 10 when they have unsupported CPUs. | Jun 20 01:16 |
| oiaohm | That is just mega goof. | Jun 20 01:16 |
| cubexyz | not to mention the baked-in crap that intel is doing | Jun 20 01:16 |
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| oiaohm | 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ Processors do look at that line and the ** clean install of Windows 10 on that is unstable you have to install 7 or 8 first then upgrade. | Jun 20 01:18 |
| oiaohm | So picky CPU support is not helping those who upgrade hardware. | Jun 20 01:18 |
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| oiaohm | Or deploy volume licenses. | Jun 20 01:19 |
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| schestowitz | [01:01] <DaemonFC> Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable > Microsoft Exec Urges Linux Developers To Try Windows 10 | Jun 20 01:21 |
| schestowitz | EEE | Jun 20 01:21 |
| schestowitz | third e is "exterminate" | Jun 20 01:21 |
| XRevan86 | seek, locate | Jun 20 01:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876960611133005826 | Jun 20 01:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why the last thing open source needs is more corporate | Jun 20 01:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | oversight https://t.co/iW1MdeDwO0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 20 01:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 20 01:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why the last thing open source needs is more corporate oversight | Tux Machines | Jun 20 01:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876960900732858369 | Jun 20 01:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #CentOS Linux Now Offers Official CentOS #Vagrant Images | Jun 20 01:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NihAxcEnSX (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 20 01:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 20 01:33 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why the last thing open source needs is...' | Jun 20 01:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS Linux Now Offers Official CentOS Vagrant Images for the Hyper-V Provider | Tux Machines | Jun 20 01:33 | |
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| schestowitz | XFaCE: that's the busters' slogan | Jun 20 01:45 |
| schestowitz | xraven i mean | Jun 20 01:45 |
| schestowitz | but xrevan is gone now | Jun 20 01:45 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#CentOS Linux Now Offers Official CentOS #Vagrant Images...' | Jun 20 01:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump How many more people need to die...' | Jun 20 01:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump How many more people need...' | Jun 20 01:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/vee_liang/status/876967760860815362 | Jun 20 02:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #TheSSS 22.0 Linux Server Out with Kernel 4.9.13, #Apache | Jun 20 02:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @vee_liang 2.4.25 & #MariaDB 10.2.6 https://t.co/Xky4vyneU2 | Jun 20 02:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 20 02:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TheSSS 22.0 Linux Server Out with Kernel 4.9.13, Apache 2.4.25 & MariaDB 10.2.6 | Tux Machines | Jun 20 02:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876968078663450624 | Jun 20 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: Neil deGrasse Tyson's #SpaceOdyssey, Ken Follett's | Jun 20 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Pillars of the Earth, and More | Jun 20 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XMncPn11Gr (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 20 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #games | Jun 20 02:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Neil deGrasse Tyson's Space Odyssey, Ken Follett's The Pillars of the Earth, and More | Tux Machines | Jun 20 02:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876968510202707968 | Jun 20 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics: #Nouveau, Radeon RADV, #Radeon #RADV, and | Jun 20 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AMDGPU https://t.co/B2fqGuw3Tt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 20 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #graphics #linux | Jun 20 02:03 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Neil deGrasse Tyson's #SpaceOdyssey, Ken Follett's The...' | Jun 20 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Nouveau, Radeon RADV, Radeon RADV, and AMDGPU | Tux Machines | Jun 20 02:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | Hmm, my graphics have some new issues after that kernel update. | Jun 20 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe I should go back to 4.11.5 for a while. | Jun 20 02:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876969441938087936 | Jun 20 02:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Manjaro 17.0.2-rc2 released (G,K,X) | Jun 20 02:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tyfo0esTC4 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 20 02:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ManjaroLinux #gnu #linux | Jun 20 02:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 17.0.2-rc2 released (G,K,X) | Tux Machines | Jun 20 02:09 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: they call it bleeding edge for a reason. | Jun 20 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | 4.11.6 was just a bugfix update. | Jun 20 02:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Manjaro 17.0.2-rc2 released (G,K,X) https://t.co/tyfo0esTC4 #ManjaroLinux...' | Jun 20 02:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876973889510887425 | Jun 20 02:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical, #Ubuntu, #Unity, #KeePassXC #Snap, and #MAAS | Jun 20 02:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ja3MsHBWnC (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 20 02:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 20 02:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical, Ubuntu, Unity, KeePassXC Snap, and MAAS | Tux Machines | Jun 20 02:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Canonical, #Ubuntu, #Unity, #KeePassXC #Snap, and #MAAS https://t.co/Ja3MsHBWnC...' | Jun 20 02:25 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: why swap kernels? | Jun 20 02:25 |
| schestowitz | are you after some cutting-edge features? | Jun 20 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Nah, it seemed pretty safe and said that it fixed 8 bugs with Intel graphics. Smallish release, really. | Jun 20 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | Other than that, it was only a few patches, like to fix mounting FAT volumes created under FreeBSD. | Jun 20 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | I think that Greg KH pushed it out because of the Intel graphics fixes. | Jun 20 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Now there seem to be some problems with XWayland that weren't there before. | Jun 20 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Like, you sometimes close Firefox or Pidgin and the app closes, but the X server that was attached to them doesn't tear down and close the window. :P | Jun 20 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | Given that upgrading from 4.11.5 to 4.11.6 was the only change to my system today, I think that's probably what did it. | Jun 20 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: But in general, yeah, I like the latest kernel. Intel is still rolling out new Skylake features. | Jun 20 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | Not at the pace they were in previous releases, but it's like 1-2 things getting flipped on that make the graphics or power management work a little better in each new major kernel release now. So finishing touches, really. | Jun 20 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | But you really need to be running 4.10 if you don't want excessive power drain or missing wifi driver. | Jun 20 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | (At least on this laptop.) | Jun 20 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | I think the missing wifi driver was added in 4.8, but power management wasn't working reliably until 4.10. | Jun 20 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | That's why distributions like Debian never work out well for me. | Jun 20 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | They pick a kernel and the distribution is basically frozen in time for a couple of years. | Jun 20 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | They do backport kernels but then say that you may not get good security support for them. | Jun 20 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | So it doesn't sound like something you want to run. | Jun 20 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | Backports is made to sound pretty scary. | Jun 20 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876976956948000768 | Jun 20 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME News: #Nautilus and T4G-V2 https://t.co/Xt7iKSWk2k | Jun 20 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 20 02:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News: Nautilus and T4G-V2 | Tux Machines | Jun 20 02:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME News: #Nautilus and T4G-V2 https://t.co/Xt7iKSWk2k #gnu #linux' | Jun 20 02:41 | |
| cubexyz | wow, archive.org got 1924 toronto directory | Jun 20 02:46 |
| cubexyz | sarcastic :) | Jun 20 02:47 |
| cubexyz | only 93 years old, are the copyright maximalists sure it's old enough? | Jun 20 02:47 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME News: #Nautilus and T4G-V2 https://t.co/Xt7iKSWk2k #gnu #linux' | Jun 20 02:48 | |
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| schestowitz | finally back | Jun 20 11:11 |
| schestowitz | f*ing hardware failure | Jun 20 11:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Accenture, Microsoft team up on blockchain-based digital ID network | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/r10rj ] | Jun 20 12:41 | |
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| schestowitz | meh | Jun 20 12:43 |
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| schestowitz | > Here's today's batch. We're ramping up for Midsummer. | Jun 20 15:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > About censorship or "filtering", I wish Falkvinge or an active PP member | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > would write (again) about /why/ Sweden has had the Freedom of | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > Information baked into its very constitution since 1766. Basically, | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > prior to that one political group held the government under their power | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > and used it their control choke off access as much as possible to | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > opponents. When a different bloc gained power they redid the | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > constitution to include what powers they would accept if their opponents | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > regained power. | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > People should have re-learned that same lesson regarding Obama and his | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > surveillance programmes. In regards to the Internet, it is more | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > critical and people should be thinking further ahead than just the | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > current political constellation and their chief opponents gain power. | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > Control of the Internet is amounts to the ability to control or prohibit | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > peaceable assembly. Yet sheeple act as if they think that somehow just | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > their own communications, and only their communications, will be exempt | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > from the restrictions they plan to put in place. History, new and old, | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > has shown them to be wrong. | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | You really ought to write short blog posts about those things as they deserve a wider audience, even is publicised anonymously. | Jun 20 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877170282510901249 | Jun 20 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux Games: #WildTerra Online, Paradigm, | Jun 20 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GemstoneKeeper, and #ScrapGarden https://t.co/9bTHXWk9gu | Jun 20 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gaming | Jun 20 15:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Wild Terra Online, Paradigm, Gemstone Keeper, and Scrap Garden | Tux Machines | Jun 20 15:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#gnu #linux Games: #WildTerra Online, Paradigm, #GemstoneKeeper, and...' | Jun 20 15:26 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.upguard.com/breaches/the-rnc-files | Jun 20 15:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.upguard.com | The RNC Files: Inside the Largest US Voter Data Leak [ http://ur1.ca/r12jk ] | Jun 20 15:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877181895225856000 | Jun 20 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | News and e-press echos after #EUPL v1.2 publication | Jun 20 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nKYdg9XXoG (www.tuxmachines.org) #gpl | Jun 20 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gplv3 #eu #europe | Jun 20 16:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/877183596762714113 | Jun 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by News and e-press echos after #EUPL v1.2 publication | Jun 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/nKYdg9XXoG (www.tuxmachines.org) #gpl | Jun 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gplv3 #eu #europe | Jun 20 16:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877186692423307264 | Jun 20 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform | Jun 20 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RFX74guy5q (www.tuxmachines.org) #container | Jun 20 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #freesw #server | Jun 20 16:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform https://t.co/RFX74guy5q #container #gnu #linux...' | Jun 20 16:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877188489590296576 | Jun 20 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical Outs Major #Security Updates for All Supported | Jun 20 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu Linux Releases https://t.co/AuVimpDC5t | Jun 20 16:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve | Jun 20 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi 3 Boot Support https://t.co/EJd2EZCOuD | Jun 20 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix #netbsd #raspi | Jun 20 16:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Outs Major Security Updates for All Supported Ubuntu Linux Releases | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve Raspberry Pi 3 Boot Support | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @io_r_us retweeted @tuxmachines: 'NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve...' | Jun 20 16:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877189591278682112 | Jun 20 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Q.bo One open source robot launches for DIYers | Jun 20 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bWzI5N5N8C (www.tuxmachines.org) #qbo | Jun 20 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #robotics #raspi #linux #arduino #gnu #freesw | Jun 20 16:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q.bo One open source robot launches for DIYers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Firefox on #Android https://t.co/IpM2QAd0KL | Jun 20 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #mozilla #google #freesw #www | Jun 20 16:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Q.bo One open source robot launches for DIYers...' | Jun 20 16:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Firefox on #Android https://t.co/IpM2QAd0KL #mozilla #google #freesw #www' | Jun 20 16:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877191760019156992 | Jun 20 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Androidx86 Fork Lets Users Install and Run #Android | Jun 20 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7.1.2 #Nougat on Their PCs https://t.co/npmO3rtjuE | Jun 20 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspand #linux #raspi | Jun 20 16:53 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Androidx86 Fork Lets Users Install and Run #Android...' | Jun 20 16:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877199033521106944 | Jun 20 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #FOSS and #Sharing https://t.co/J4Waukzhxa | Jun 20 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #univa #dgplug | Jun 20 17:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jun 20 17:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/TaR3fg4sXs | Jun 20 17:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 17:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: #FOSS and #Sharing https://t.co/J4Waukzhxa #freesw #univa #dgplug' | Jun 20 17:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/TaR3fg4sXs' | Jun 20 17:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877200847087841280 | Jun 20 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 20/6/2017: Chuwi Lapbook, Linux 4.12 RC6, Mesa | Jun 20 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 17.1.3 https://t.co/pVZIKo4ohT (techrights.org) | Jun 20 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 20 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/6/2017: Chuwi Lapbook, Linux 4.12 RC6, Mesa 17.1.3 | Techrights | Jun 20 17:26 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/final-wishes | Jun 20 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Final Wishes | Jun 20 17:37 | |
| MinceR | https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-putin-decries-excessive-demonization-stalin/28559464.html | Jun 20 17:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rferl.org | Putin Accuses Russia's Foes Of 'Excessive Demonization' Of Stalin | Jun 20 17:52 | |
| schestowitz | Would Stalin accuse the US of demonising Putler? | Jun 20 18:01 |
| MinceR | apparently so | Jun 20 18:04 |
| MinceR | his butt hurts because his great idol is "excessively" demonized | Jun 20 18:04 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure how the georgian butcher can be "excessively" demonized, or demonized at all | Jun 20 18:04 |
| MinceR | one of the most horrible humans to ever live | Jun 20 18:04 |
| MinceR | and that's quite the achievement | Jun 20 18:05 |
| schestowitz | worse than Hitler? | Jun 20 18:08 |
| schestowitz | I wonder how the West thought at the time | Jun 20 18:08 |
| schestowitz | not after the war was over and history was updated | Jun 20 18:08 |
| schestowitz | my understanding is that the West was more worried about the Bolsheviks and before the wars Hitler was viewed more as an ally against Communism | Jun 20 18:09 |
| MinceR | not sure | Jun 20 18:09 |
| MinceR | well, the west loved the russians for a while | Jun 20 18:10 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @lanrewajuadagba favourited 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/TaR3fg4sXs' | Jun 20 18:10 | |
| MinceR | they only thought of them as allies against the germans and the japanese | Jun 20 18:10 |
| MinceR | took them way too long that they were the same shit in different color | Jun 20 18:10 |
| MinceR | and even then they didn't care | Jun 20 18:10 |
| MinceR | nobody helped hungarians in 1956, for example | Jun 20 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/chandanghodela/status/877211977768091648 | Jun 20 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security Leftovers https://t.co/xGX9fg4WaZ | Jun 20 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @chandanghodela (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi #wannacry #microsoft | Jun 20 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #windows #nhs #ubuntu #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 20 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 18:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 20 18:11 | |
| MinceR | but then again, maybe it would have been a waste of effort anyway | Jun 20 18:11 |
| MinceR | considering what hungarians did in 2010 to the freedom that fell in their laps | Jun 20 18:11 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement | Jun 20 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Munich Agreement - Wikipedia | Jun 20 18:12 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/kMKS6Pj.jpg | Jun 20 18:15 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Classic from 10 years ago: https://t.co/dfOJXs8GFD' | Jun 20 18:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Apple Rumor Site to Shut Down in Settlement - The New York Times | Jun 20 18:17 | |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact | Jun 20 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrve ] | Jun 20 18:20 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/pCSToT8.png (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/qvZ0w ) | Jun 20 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bear with me.. - Album on Imgur | Jun 20 18:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/chandanghodela/status/877213726868357120 | Jun 20 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security Leftovers https://t.co/W0xwewavBS | Jun 20 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @chandanghodela (www.tuxmachines.org) #wannacry #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 20 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #windows #microsoft #container #synology | Jun 20 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 18:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 20 18:38 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/AZAV5 | Jun 20 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oh! - Album on Imgur | Jun 20 18:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks What a waste of money on lawyers...' | Jun 20 18:49 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/xiBRd | Jun 20 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I secretly planted a Giant Sequoia tree in My Mayor's Yard for Revenge after he Killed My Tree, Clyde. - Album on Imgur | Jun 20 18:49 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan FarmerJust now · Apple will force 2FA on iCloud accounts. How many years since The Fappening? | Jun 20 18:51 |
| MinceR | forcing is the only thing they care to do | Jun 20 18:53 |
| MinceR | just like microsoft and red hat | Jun 20 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan FarmerJust now · Apple computers targeted by spyware and ransomware according to the BBC.Also bitcoin miners. An individual Mac isn't very powerful, but when you have an entire botnet full of them, you can make some serious scratch while the users just wonder why their stupid Mac is burning up hot and slower than normal. | Jun 20 18:54 |
| MinceR | they should have got used to it | Jun 20 18:55 |
| MinceR | crApple isn't exactly good at cooling systems | Jun 20 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Gnome uses Webkit2 now. I've set up SELinux so that most things on my computer can't use the ptrace() system call. | Jun 20 18:55 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/IdozD | Jun 20 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My brother died - Album on Imgur | Jun 20 18:55 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i suspect Blink would be better | Jun 20 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose that means that if a Web Content process had a malicious script escape the sandbox that it couldn't attach to another Web Content process and read its memory or modify it. | Jun 20 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Apparently, Apple has a new file system | Jun 20 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | APFS | Jun 20 18:58 |
| MinceR | ooh | Jun 20 18:58 |
| MinceR | oh, i saw an article about it | Jun 20 18:59 |
| MinceR | https://eclecticlight.co/2017/04/06/apfs-is-currently-unusable-with-most-non-english-languages/ | Jun 20 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eclecticlight.co | APFS is currently unusable with most non-English languages – The Eclectic Light Company [ http://ur1.ca/r13we ] | Jun 20 18:59 | |
| DaemonFC | It sounded like ZFS, but not as good. | Jun 20 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | Apple enabled ZFS on earlier Beta builds of OS X but then yanked it back out, to the dismay of people who had already installed OS X to it. | Jun 20 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | Well, on one hand, it serves them right for enabling an experiment on a production system... :) | Jun 20 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | Apple never said it was going to land in a release version of OS X. | Jun 20 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that Linux could do ZFS right if anyone cared enough to, but it's never going to be mainlined. | Jun 20 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu will have to carry it by itself. | Jun 20 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | For all the shit they've just taken on, they might as well have integrated Reiser4. | Jun 20 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | At least it was designed for Linux. | Jun 20 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | At least it is under the GPL. | Jun 20 19:02 |
| MinceR | "production system" running macos? | Jun 20 19:02 |
| MinceR | "production system" on crApple hardware? | Jun 20 19:03 |
| MinceR | they deserve everything they get | Jun 20 19:03 |
| MinceR | fucking morons | Jun 20 19:03 |
| MinceR | Obstacle made sure to license ZFS so that it can't be legally integrated into Linux | Jun 20 19:03 |
| MinceR | so fuck Obstacle and fuck ZFS | Jun 20 19:03 |
| MinceR | with a rusty, poisoned chainsaw | Jun 20 19:04 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Did @CraigMurrayOrg even meet him in...' | Jun 20 19:05 | |
| DaemonFC | I wonder where I'd file a bug for "Gnome Web uses an insane amount of power, melts my laptop on sites like Facebook and Youtube.". | Jun 20 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | Using Firefox, my laptop is sitting at 7-8 watts and using Gnome Web on the same sites, it's closer to 20. | Jun 20 19:09 |
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| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1463390 | Jun 20 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1463390 – Gnome Web uses an insane amount of power, melts my laptop on sites like Facebook and Youtube. | Jun 20 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | I'm furious at Firefox | Jun 20 19:24 |
| schestowitz | takes like a gig or more of RAM sometimes | Jun 20 19:24 |
| schestowitz | for two tabs | Jun 20 19:24 |
| schestowitz | goes nuts | Jun 20 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | How reproducible: Open Gnome Web and do stuff on Facebook (especially try to make a new post) and/or watch Youtube videos. Actual results: Computer grinds to a near halt. Using power. Using power. Using power. Expected results: Gnome Web is fast and doesn't melt the laptop. Additional: I do have intel-va support installed from RPM Fusion. | Jun 20 19:24 |
| schestowitz | sometimes crashes | Jun 20 19:24 |
| schestowitz | I found https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/firefox-will-add-a-settings-section-that-lets-you-control-performance-/ | Jun 20 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Firefox Will Add a Settings Section That Lets You Control "Performance" [ http://ur1.ca/r140a ] | Jun 20 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | I can't install brave, their instructions don't work | Jun 20 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Uber is almost as bad as Airbnb. | Jun 20 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | These landlords find out that tourists will pay more than renters and turn their units into Airbnb rentals instead. | Jun 20 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Fewer apartments on the market. Rents go way up. | Jun 20 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Airbnb is pretty much unregulated, so it was discovered that people with names that made them sound like they might be black were 16% less likely to be approved for an Airbnb rental. | Jun 20 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | Also, there's no government inspections, so you don't know that the unit will have a working fire alarm, CO2 detector, sprinklers, etc. | Jun 20 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | eerrr, Carbon monoxide that is. | Jun 20 19:27 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/31v1yg/why_is_ff_such_a_memory_hog/ | Jun 20 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why is FF such a memory hog? : firefox [ http://ur1.ca/r140p ] | Jun 20 19:27 | |
| DaemonFC | At least 9 people in the US have been poisoned by carbon monoxide in Airbnb rentals, and 1 died. | Jun 20 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | But we won't ever know how many for sure because Airbnb suppresses the information. | Jun 20 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | It's just a really nasty thing. | Jun 20 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | And people who rent their units on it are in danger too. | Jun 20 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | In one case, a renter stuffed a bunch of things down the toilet and did over $10,000 worth of damage, but Airbnb only paid the owner $78. | Jun 20 19:28 |
| schestowitz | "Play DRM content' | Jun 20 19:28 |
| schestowitz | in settings | Jun 20 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | In another case, an Airbnb renter became a squatter and it took four months to evict them. | Jun 20 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I don't use Airbnb. I find a way to stay with family/friends or I get a cheap-ish room at a reputable motel chain. | Jun 20 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | Not a roach motel, but something for like business travelers who don't want to spend a ton of money. | Jun 20 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | Super 8 has a policy where if you check in after 4 AM they don't count the first night, so I just drive and check in at Super 8 after 4 AM, sleep, and get my second night thrown in. | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | it's a US thing | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | open firefox | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | no tabs | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | just blank tab | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | 400mb of RAM | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | WTH? | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | I want to throw it to the dogs | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | but what to replace it with? rekonq again? | Jun 20 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Rekonq is abandoned. | Jun 20 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Qupzilla maybe. | Jun 20 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You can uncheck "Play DRM Content" and it won't download Widevine. | Jun 20 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora default. | Jun 20 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | Or you could get the no EME build that doesn't even support Widevine. | Jun 20 19:33 |
| schestowitz | default here too | Jun 20 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 20 19:33 |
| schestowitz | what's Qupzilla based on? | Jun 20 19:33 |
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| schestowitz | sounds like qt and moz | Jun 20 19:33 |
| MinceR | iirc it's crashkit on qt | Jun 20 19:35 |
| MinceR | (crashkit is also known as webkit) | Jun 20 19:35 |
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| schestowitz | meh | Jun 20 19:44 |
| schestowitz | rekonq gets blank-ish pages from diaspora | Jun 20 19:44 |
| MinceR | welcome to the "modern" web | Jun 20 19:45 |
| MinceR | it ain't done until it only works on chrome (and maybe some crApple shit) | Jun 20 19:45 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You tried to use China as a...' | Jun 20 19:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Unless they become "anonymous official" in the...' | Jun 20 19:48 | |
| schestowitz | i thought maybe js is to blame | Jun 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | it works with moz-type browsers | Jun 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | gecko and whatnot | Jun 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | this is webkit based | Jun 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | still fails | Jun 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | doesn't help when I pretend to be other browsers | Jun 20 19:50 |
| schestowitz | "Diaspora doesn't support your version of Internet Explorer." | Jun 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jun 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | even as wget or googlebot I ge f* all | Jun 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | what an awful design for a site | Jun 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | barely accessible text | Jun 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | sudo apt-get install qupzilla | Jun 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | will try this one next | Jun 20 19:53 |
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| schestowitz | qupzilla works OK with joindispora | Jun 20 19:55 |
| schestowitz | unlike rekonq | Jun 20 19:55 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 20 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that there's a race between authenticating to the server and entering chatrooms. If you enter #fedora too quickly, you get #fedora-unregistered but Pidgin joins in the order you list rooms, so I put #fedora last. | Jun 20 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Yeah, Rekonq never really panned out too much. | Jun 20 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Qupzilla has better adblocking too. | Jun 20 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Midori is pretty decent too, if you don't mind a dependency on WebkitGTK. | Jun 20 19:56 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... | Jun 20 19:56 |
| schestowitz | one tab, 15% of my RAM | Jun 20 19:56 |
| schestowitz | not liking this so far | Jun 20 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | KDE has GTK integration theme though, and Gnome has Qt integration now. | Jun 20 19:56 |
| schestowitz | I use to run firefox on a laptop with 32 mb or RAM | Jun 20 19:56 |
| schestowitz | firefox 3 or 1.5 | Jun 20 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I used to run the entire Mozilla Suite with 128 MB of RAM on my Windows 98 PC. | Jun 20 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | Before tabs existed. | Jun 20 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | With memory left to spare. | Jun 20 19:57 |
| schestowitz | 7 tabs, 20% of my ram | Jun 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | 400mb | Jun 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | not good, either | Jun 20 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't run a normal Windows 98 though. I had a utility that stripped Internet Explorer and a bunch of other crap out of the OS, removed Trident, and installed a Windows 95 OSR 2 shell patched to say Windows 98. | Jun 20 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | I found a zip file online with the three shell files that I needed. | Jun 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Thunderbird with JS on can work on, in thunderbrowse, but it's limited, can't write blog posts lkike that | Jun 20 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | It used a lot less RAM without the bloated Windows 98 shell. | Jun 20 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | It also didn't leak as much. | Jun 20 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | I actually kept it up and running for months at a time. | Jun 20 19:59 |
| schestowitz | maybe the rendering engines became the cause of bloat? | Jun 20 19:59 |
| schestowitz | not JS, I'm not even running it | Jun 20 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | IE pretty much sandbagged Windows. | Jun 20 19:59 |
| schestowitz | and stupid malloc heaps | Jun 20 19:59 |
| MinceR | the "standard" itself was bloated too | Jun 20 19:59 |
| MinceR | dooming all complete implementations | Jun 20 19:59 |
| schestowitz | no other explanation for browser with nothing in it hoarding so much ram | Jun 20 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | masturbating moneys with their "speed" | Jun 20 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: There's really only a couple of rendering engines that are relevant now. Webkit and Gecko. | Jun 20 20:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Trident/EdgeHTML are down to single digits iirc. | Jun 20 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | They're getting so low that I wouldn't be surprised if people stop bothering to test with them at some point. | Jun 20 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | NVidia serves a page with a picture of a rock if you visit in old versions of IE and it says "IE 6? You can't be serious.". | Jun 20 20:01 |
| schestowitz | i guess the onlu solution now it trying to make Firefox less of a piece of s* | Jun 20 20:01 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/K3zkh0K.jpg | Jun 20 20:01 |
| schestowitz | started empty session of firefox | Jun 20 20:01 |
| MinceR | Ubuntu Masturbating Monkey? | Jun 20 20:02 |
| schestowitz | took over 10 seconds | Jun 20 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Firefox is really the only Linux browser that people actually test in. | Jun 20 20:02 |
| schestowitz | 400mb, then 300 of RAM | Jun 20 20:02 |
| schestowitz | for one blank tab | Jun 20 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | If it breaks in Gnome Web, Midori, Qupzilla, they don't care. | Jun 20 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The multiprocess Firefox will use more. | Jun 20 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | The advantage is you get it all back when you close a tab. | Jun 20 20:02 |
| MinceR | and you'll get all sorts of new malfeatures | Jun 20 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox keeps getting bigger and bigger until you have to close and reopen the entire browser as single-process. | Jun 20 20:03 |
| MinceR | new proprietary blobs, new drm, new bugs, new limitations | Jun 20 20:03 |
| MinceR | i wonder when will failfox depend on systemd on Linux | Jun 20 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The way most people ran Firefox, just Widevine is an improvement over Flash. | Jun 20 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | Flash was copying a ton of features, poorly, and with millions of bugs, that the browser was already capable of. | Jun 20 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | It became an overglorified video player because sites demanded it for its DRM. | Jun 20 20:05 |
| MinceR | what's widevine? | Jun 20 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: A cross platform DRM from Google. | Jun 20 20:05 |
| MinceR | ain't it fucking precious | Jun 20 20:05 |
| MinceR | from fucking google | Jun 20 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | To be used as a Content Decryption Module. | Jun 20 20:05 |
| MinceR | "do no evil", my ass | Jun 20 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's hilariously weak too. | Jun 20 20:05 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Unless they become "anonymous official" in the...' | Jun 20 20:06 | |
| MinceR | i'm surprised humans haven't gone extinct yet | Jun 20 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | People keep dumping entire seasons of Netflix in HD that were "protected" with Widevine. | Jun 20 20:06 |
| MinceR | with such a lack of sense and self-destructive tendencies and urges | Jun 20 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | Google is pretty terrible really. | Jun 20 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome is one of the most misbehaved pieces of software I've ever seen. | Jun 20 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | It's probably #3 for worst behaved software from a major company. | Jun 20 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | Right behind Internet Explorer and iTunes. | Jun 20 20:07 |
| MinceR | sure, but it's a web browser | Jun 20 20:07 |
| MinceR | a full-featured one at that | Jun 20 20:07 |
| MinceR | all of those are terrible | Jun 20 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The battery usage with Chrome is very bad as well. | Jun 20 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | It causes too many wakeups, which subverts the power management of the OS/hardware. | Jun 20 20:07 |
| MinceR | "modern" webshites have got to have their precious wakeups | Jun 20 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | If you can't go into a deep PC state on a platform like Skylake, you can't get those awesome 10 hours on the battery. | Jun 20 20:08 |
| MinceR | so they can use your computers to mine bitcoins even if they're in the background | Jun 20 20:08 |
| MinceR | you can't get it either | Jun 20 20:08 |
| MinceR | s/either/anyway/ | Jun 20 20:08 |
| MinceR | laptop battery life figures are always lies | Jun 20 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Firefox is pretty easy on the battery, at least as provided by Fedora. | Jun 20 20:08 |
| MinceR | got to save some battery for systemd to waste, eh? | Jun 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's worse if you use the Mozilla-provided binary, as is most everything else, including security. | Jun 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Systemd isn't using much. | Jun 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Right now, my system is using about 6 watts. | Jun 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | The whole system. | Jun 20 20:09 |
| MinceR | go tell this guy: https://blind.guru/daemon-cpu.html | Jun 20 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blind.guru | I am sorry, but this looks insane | Jun 20 20:10 | |
| MinceR | oh, yeah, also dbus and packagekit | Jun 20 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: | Jun 20 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1463398 | Jun 20 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1463398 – Gnome Web can't render the website for the Midori browser. | Jun 20 20:12 | |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1463390 | Jun 20 20:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1463390 – Gnome Web uses an insane amount of power, melts my laptop on sites like Facebook and Youtube. [ http://ur1.ca/r147w ] | Jun 20 20:13 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 20 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1462677 | Jun 20 20:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1462677 – GNOME Web crashes when saving an image from discogs.com. [ http://ur1.ca/r147y ] | Jun 20 20:13 | |
| DaemonFC | I've filed three bugs on it so far. | Jun 20 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 20 20:13 |
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| *schestowitz experiments with qupzilla | Jun 20 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | doesn't work with mastodon | Jun 20 20:22 |
| schestowitz | blank page | Jun 20 20:22 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/dark-magic | Jun 20 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Dark Magic | Jun 20 20:23 | |
| schestowitz | hhmmm.... flash just made the browser totally freeze | Jun 20 20:25 |
| schestowitz | no good that.. | Jun 20 20:25 |
| schestowitz | I'll use rekonq for light things | Jun 20 20:26 |
| schestowitz | for now | Jun 20 20:26 |
| schestowitz | until firefox gets its f | Jun 20 20:26 |
| schestowitz | its f* s* together | Jun 20 20:27 |
| schestowitz | it's very annoying | Jun 20 20:27 |
| schestowitz | I wasted so much time on this | Jun 20 20:27 |
| MinceR | justflashthings | Jun 20 20:30 |
| MinceR | firefox is only getting its f* s* increasingly apart | Jun 20 20:30 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/ziUZj | Jun 20 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When your boss say that you don't need AC. - Album on Imgur | Jun 20 20:35 | |
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| schestowitz | test http://imgur.com/gallery/ziUZj | Jun 20 20:43 |
| schestowitz | ok, well... I'm experimenting with less firefox | Jun 20 20:45 |
| schestowitz | I will still need it for some things, but not many | Jun 20 20:45 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/kIhSt | Jun 20 20:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kitties - Album on Imgur | Jun 20 20:51 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/you-too | Jun 20 21:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - You Too | Jun 20 21:17 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/q2FtVgV.gifv | Jun 20 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jun 20 21:24 | |
| schestowitz | Another person at EPo has just killed himself | Jun 20 21:26 |
| schestowitz | shi* | Jun 20 21:26 |
| MinceR | can't they just quit? | Jun 20 21:26 |
| MinceR | or even just stop going to work | Jun 20 21:26 |
| schestowitz | not simple | Jun 20 21:27 |
| schestowitz | they relocate the whole family | Jun 20 21:27 |
| MinceR | why? | Jun 20 21:27 |
| schestowitz | He jumped under a train. | Jun 20 21:28 |
| schestowitz | British citizen | Jun 20 21:28 |
| schestowitz | https://imgur.com/gallery/Wvh94 | Jun 20 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Certainly no humdrum here... - Album on Imgur | Jun 20 21:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Mere days after Trump signed papers in...' | Jun 20 21:36 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks for the picks | Jun 20 21:46 |
| schestowitz | I will use them later | Jun 20 21:46 |
| MinceR | np | Jun 20 21:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @equbuntu https://twitter.com/equbuntu/status/877288920853221376 | Jun 20 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest The Ubuntu Daily! https://t.co/3rzYpmfSb0 | Jun 20 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines @security_wang | Jun 20 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @phoronix #ubuntu #security | Jun 20 23:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The Ubuntu Daily | Jun 20 23:49 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/epsilon http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1495978247-20170528after.png | Jun 21 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Epsilon | Jun 21 00:12 | |
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| cubexyz | ><schestowitz> I'm furious at Firefox | Jun 21 01:18 |
| cubexyz | <schestowitz> takes like a gig or more of RAM sometimes | Jun 21 01:18 |
| cubexyz | ha | Jun 21 01:18 |
| cubexyz | actually I'm using ff 16 still on one box | Jun 21 01:18 |
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| cubexyz | 512 megs of ram | Jun 21 01:18 |
| cubexyz | on FC1 I use icecat-2.0.0.11-g1 | Jun 21 01:19 |
| cubexyz | but only rarely | Jun 21 01:19 |
| cubexyz | it may have been possible to update icecat using gtk1 | Jun 21 01:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/877321858147729411 | Jun 21 01:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve | Jun 21 01:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @AlejosAngel Raspberry Pi 3 Boot Support https://t.co/EJd2EZCOuD | Jun 21 01:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix #netbsd #raspi | Jun 21 01:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 01:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve Raspberry Pi 3 Boot Support | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877321965144375296 | Jun 21 01:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | My Ubuntu for mobile devices post mortem analysis | Jun 21 01:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YIgH8Xaw7K (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 21 01:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 21 01:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My Ubuntu for mobile devices post mortem analysis | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:30 | |
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| cubexyz | ff 16 just seems more efficient | Jun 21 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877322862561943553 | Jun 21 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OnePlus 5 review—The best sub-$500 phone you can buy | Jun 21 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NNMraXCVwA (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 21 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 21 01:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OnePlus 5 review—The best sub-$500 phone you can buy | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877325346860748800 | Jun 21 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tips on Scaling Open Source in the Cloud | Jun 21 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/O3gGuTrRJM (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #server | Jun 21 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 01:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tips on Scaling Open Source in the Cloud | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877326275236380676 | Jun 21 01:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 21 01:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 21 01:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 21 01:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 01:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based on Bodhi | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877327770132467712 | Jun 21 01:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please | Jun 21 01:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/haRGmpXrjs (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 01:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hardware #rapsi | Jun 21 01:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 01:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:52 | |
| DaemonFC | I figured out the insane power draw and CPU usage in Gnome Web. | Jun 21 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora doesn't install gstreamer's va-api by default and intel-va is in RPM Fusion. | Jun 21 01:53 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please...' | Jun 21 01:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Latest quad-core #BananaPi offers SATA support for $32 | Jun 21 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/z6tibZd3Re (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #gnu | Jun 21 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hardware | Jun 21 02:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest quad-core Banana Pi offers SATA support for $32 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877330240023834624 | Jun 21 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sony Xperia Touch Android projector Review | Jun 21 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/azuW5STE7x (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 21 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #sony | Jun 21 02:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sony Xperia Touch Android projector Review | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877330772579037184 | Jun 21 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This is the latest phone from the company Android fans | Jun 21 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | can't get enough of https://t.co/E6vyTdl9bV | Jun 21 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #oneplus #android #linux | Jun 21 02:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This is the latest phone from the company Android fans can't get enough of | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:05 | |
| DaemonFC | https://nystocknews.com/2017/06/20/target-price-for-red-hat-inc-rht-now-above-close-for-monday/ | Jun 21 02:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nystocknews.com | Target Price for Red Hat, Inc. (RHT) now above close for Monday | NY Stock News | Jun 21 02:12 | |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat is way bigger than Novel l was. | Jun 21 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | The Novell deal with Microsoft smacked of desperation from the beginning. | Jun 21 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz: What's the deal with suse these days? | Jun 21 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | Is it still to be avoided? | Jun 21 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | Or did it land somewhere where it's okay to recommend again? | Jun 21 02:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877331498260721664 | Jun 21 02:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/uGl9NjZBxS | Jun 21 02:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #oneplus | Jun 21 02:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kodak | Jun 21 02:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | Red Hat wasn't ever really pushing Mono. Fedora had/has it but it's not a default package. | Jun 21 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | They heavily promote Java. | Jun 21 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the people in Gnome were in a position to push Mono though, and they tried. | Jun 21 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | They were actually pretty pissed about Tomboy being ported to C++. | Jun 21 02:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877334064914616321 | Jun 21 02:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 20/6/2017: Chuwi Lapbook, Linux 4.12 RC6, Mesa | Jun 21 02:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz 17.1.3 https://t.co/pVZIKo4ohT (techrights.org) | Jun 21 02:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 02:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/6/2017: Chuwi Lapbook, Linux 4.12 RC6, Mesa 17.1.3 | Techrights | Jun 21 02:17 | |
| DaemonFC | I think the author of Tomboy wrote a whole blog post complaining about Gnote. | Jun 21 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | I commented that you don't get to release something as open source and then complain when people do something with it. | Jun 21 02:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877334619275841536 | Jun 21 02:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by My Ubuntu for mobile devices post mortem analysis | Jun 21 02:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/YIgH8Xaw7K (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 21 02:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 21 02:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My Ubuntu for mobile devices post mortem analysis | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877335292390146053 | Jun 21 02:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release of #OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 https://t.co/PtxwGk9t3v | Jun 21 02:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #Mandriva #gnu #linux | Jun 21 02:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877335682708099072 | Jun 21 02:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #OnePlus 5 review—The best sub-$500 phone you can buy | Jun 21 02:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/NNMraXCVwA (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 21 02:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 21 02:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877336700053319680 | Jun 21 02:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tips on Scaling Open Source in the Cloud | Jun 21 02:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/O3gGuTrRJM (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 02:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #server | Jun 21 02:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OnePlus 5 review—The best sub-$500 phone you can buy | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tips on Scaling Open Source in the Cloud | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:26 | |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-WS-Update-NV-WL-Qt | Jun 21 02:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Continues Working On Better NVIDIA Support, PipeWire Could Replace PulseAudio - Phoronix | Jun 21 02:27 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Fedora could replace Pulseaudio. | Jun 21 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they would. They got Pulseaudio working after years of agony, so of course there's something new. | Jun 21 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | So this thing is supposed to replace Pulseaudio *and* Jack. | Jun 21 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Well good luck with that. | Jun 21 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2017/06/20/fedora-workstation-26-and-beyond/ | Jun 21 02:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Fedora Workstation 26 and beyond | Christian Schaller [ http://ur1.ca/r164i ] | Jun 21 02:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Fedora 26 is pretty good. | Jun 21 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | He's right that the industry is moving to open codecs while the widely used encumbered codec patents are expiring. | Jun 21 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Fool me once, shame on you, and all that. | Jun 21 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 21 02:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877336716431941634 | Jun 21 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 21 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 21 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 21 02:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based on Bodhi | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:36 | |
| DaemonFC | MP3 is dated, but it's not a horrible format. | Jun 21 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877339330875977728 | Jun 21 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please | Jun 21 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/haRGmpXrjs (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hardware #rapsi | Jun 21 02:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:36 | |
| DaemonFC | LAME has advanced the technology far beyond what proprietary software ever would have. | Jun 21 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | "QtGNOME platform | Jun 21 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | We will have a new version of the QtGNOME platform in Fedora 26. For those of you who have not yet heard of this effort it is a set of themes and tools to ensure that Qt applications runs without any major issues under GNOME 3. With the new version the theming expands to include the accessibility and dark themes in Adwaita, meaning that if you switch to one of these themes under GNOME shell it will also switch your Qt applications ov | Jun 21 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | er. We are also making sure things like cut’n paste and drag and drop works well. The version in Fedora Workstation 26 is a big step forward for this effort and should hopefully make Qt applications be first class citizens under your Fedora Workstation desktop." | Jun 21 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | Nice. | Jun 21 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz: That's what I was talking about earlier. | Jun 21 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | So Qt and KDE apps fit in better on a Gnome desktop. | Jun 21 02:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877339350039769088 | Jun 21 02:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Latest quad-core #BananaPi offers SATA support for $32 | Jun 21 02:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/z6tibZd3Re (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #gnu | Jun 21 02:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hardware | Jun 21 02:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest quad-core Banana Pi offers SATA support for $32 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @WhiteHouse @VP Did your buddy Vlad approve...' | Jun 21 02:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @WhiteHouse @VP https://t.co/cbdmEBbtwL' | Jun 21 02:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @WhiteHouse @VP https://t.co/cbdmEBbtwL | Jun 21 02:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @WhiteHouse @VP https://t.co/cbdmEBbtwL' | Jun 21 02:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877341983261544448 | Jun 21 02:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/azuW5STE7x (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 21 02:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #sony | Jun 21 02:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sony Xperia Touch Android projector Review | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:46 | |
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| r_schestowitz | [02:15] <DaemonFC> r_schestowitz: What's the deal with suse these days? | Jun 21 02:49 |
| r_schestowitz | it's almost irrelevant | Jun 21 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | I have a friend on Facebook that says he likes openSUSE Tumbleweed. | Jun 21 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | The system management tools on Fedora have gotten a lot better than they used to be. | Jun 21 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | Like, Yum used to make you install a plugin that detected orphan packages and then you had to add a switch to remove them and sometimes it was wrong and broke something. | Jun 21 02:51 |
| r_schestowitz | they barely even keep up their blogs about suse | Jun 21 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | abandoned most of them... | Jun 21 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | "I don't think you should necessarily publish that information on your blog (there is a family left behind), but an examiner committed suicide yesterday in Munich. A British citizen like you, actually. He jumped under a train." | Jun 21 02:57 |
| r_schestowitz | Do most people already know? I don't want to play a "tally" game like a politician. Does the management know? The Line Manager? | Jun 21 02:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877341997798793221 | Jun 21 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by This is the latest phone from the company Android fans | Jun 21 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz can't get enough of https://t.co/E6vyTdl9bV | Jun 21 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #oneplus #android #linux | Jun 21 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 03:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This is the latest phone from the company Android fans can't get enough of | Tux Machines | Jun 21 03:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877347539263082497 | Jun 21 03:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/uGl9NjZBxS | Jun 21 03:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #oneplus | Jun 21 03:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kodak | Jun 21 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 03:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/12/15/162 | Jun 21 04:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner: [tip:x86/timers] x86/tsc: Force TSC_ADJUST register to value >= zero | Jun 21 04:10 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, LolNo!Vo has this bug too. | Jun 21 04:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877347552752001024 | Jun 21 04:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Release of #OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 https://t.co/PtxwGk9t3v | Jun 21 04:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #Mandriva #gnu #linux | Jun 21 04:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 04:14 | |
| DaemonFC | http://linux-kernel.2935.n7.nabble.com/Linux-2-6-29-td440085i20.html | Jun 21 04:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux-kernel.2935.n7.nabble.com | Linux Kernel - Linux 2.6.29 | Page 2 | Jun 21 04:17 | |
| DaemonFC | "I never understood how anybody doing filesystems (especially ones that | Jun 21 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | claim to be crash-resistant due to journalling) would _ever_ accept the | Jun 21 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | "writeback" behavior of having "clean fsck, but data loss". " - Linus Torvalds | Jun 21 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jun 21 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Isn't that the same fix? ext4 just defaults to the crappy "writeback" | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | behavior, which is insane. | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | Sure, it makes things _much_ smoother, since now the actual data is no | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | longer in the critical path for any journal writes, but anybody who thinks | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | that's a solution is just incompetent. | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | We might as well go back to ext2 then. If your data gets written out long | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | after the metadata hit the disk, you are going to hit all kinds of bad | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | issues if the machine ever goes down. " | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | That was what Ext4 was doing before 2.6.29. | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | I actually lost some files to that during a system crash. | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | But that's a separate issue from vm.writeback. | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | Ted T'so wrote, "I have 4 gigs of memory on my laptop, and I've never seen it these | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | sorts of issues. So maybe filesystem hackers don't have enough | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | memory; or we don't use the right workloads? It would help if I | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | understood how to trigger these disaster cases. I've had to work | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | *really* hard (as in dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/dirty-me-harder) in order | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | to get even a 30 second fsync() delay. So understanding what sort of | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | things you do that cause that many files data blocks to be dirtied, | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | and/or what is causing a major read workload, would be useful. | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | It may be that we just need to tune the VM to be much more aggressive | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | about pushing dirty pages to the disk sooner. Understanding how the | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | dynamics are working would be the first step. " | Jun 21 04:22 |
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| DaemonFC | One of the things that powertop recommends is increasing the vm.writeback delay to improve battery life. | Jun 21 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | It risks your data though, but it's the default in the "just tune everything for me" defaults. | Jun 21 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | The longer the writeback delay is, the more data is at risk. | Jun 21 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's not JFS bad, even with the delay that powertop sets. | Jun 21 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | JFS can push the writeback out indefinitely, until an external event triggers one. | Jun 21 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | So you could go hours or even longer. | Jun 21 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | I think that powertop just pushes it out from 5 seconds to 30. | Jun 21 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | You really don't want to use JFS. | Jun 21 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | I can't imagine why it has any users. | Jun 21 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | JFS is really not actively developed like XFS is. | Jun 21 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | I still see XFS developers fixing some bizarre/rare/hard to trigger bugs now and then. | Jun 21 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz: After Greg KH pushed out that tiny 4.11.6 update, he went back to queuing. The 4.11.7 patch set is sitting at 75 patches right now. :P | Jun 21 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | It takes a long time for a kernel to actually settle after it's released. The patches never end, not really. | Jun 21 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | Even after 100 minor versions, it's common to see 50-60 patches in the next update. | Jun 21 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | You could keep fixing things forever and there would be more bugs. | Jun 21 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 has turned into beta quality garbage, even by Microsoft standards. | Jun 21 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | They FORCE update you to a new release that's totally broken and make you test it out before their important customers have to install it. | Jun 21 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | Part of the whole "free" thing. The other being your personal data, down to the keystrones. | Jun 21 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | *keystrokes. | Jun 21 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan FarmerJust now · Chicago · Fedora has a list of Forbidden items and a list of suggestions for what to do instead, but the real answer (cheat sheet) almost always involves installing something from RPM Fusion. I was a little stunned to see that Gnome Web stuttered and made my computer red hot and nearly unresponsive while playing videos and doing some other things without the magic combo of intel-va-driver from RPM Fusion, | Jun 21 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | the codecs from RPM Fusion, and the Gstreamer VA API plugin from Fedora. I had the codecs and the intel-va-driver, but had overlooked the Gstreamer VA API plugin. Doh!Fedora can't recommend RPM Fusion even though almost everyone knows about it, because recommending it would open them up to a lawsuit from a patent holder. ("Well, you may not be shipping this thing we have a patent on, but you're telling people where to get it!").The | Jun 21 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | US legal system is hopelessly fucked. The patent office even once gave a patent to a lawyer for a "method of exercising a cat with a laser pointer" when he was trying to show his son how easy it was to abuse the patent system in the US. | Jun 21 04:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Release of #OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 https://t.co/PtxwGk9t3v #Mandriva #gnu...' | Jun 21 05:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited 'Latest quad-core #BananaPi offers SATA support for $32...' | Jun 21 05:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 05:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited 'Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please...' | Jun 21 05:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based...' | Jun 21 05:00 | |
| DaemonFC | I've been learning to like Pidgin as an IRC client. | Jun 21 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's not horrible with the IRC plugins in the plugins package. | Jun 21 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | It is kind of weird having IRC chatrooms in the same window as Facebook Messenger chats though, and there's no server tab so it makes it a little hard to see what servers you're using. | Jun 21 05:29 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Jun 21 05:53 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: btw it's not necessary to part all channels before quitting :> | Jun 21 05:54 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't. | Jun 21 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | I think it might be doing that on its own. | Jun 21 06:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited 'My Ubuntu for mobile devices post mortem analysis...' | Jun 21 06:27 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/6Ao2TQY.gifv | Jun 21 06:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jun 21 06:32 | |
| MinceR | it's also doing it wrong | Jun 21 06:32 |
| MinceR | your quit message includes a couple of raw part commands together | Jun 21 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | Let's try something. | Jun 21 06:55 |
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| DaaemonFC | Oh crap. | Jun 21 06:56 |
| DaaemonFC | Well, that's not good. | Jun 21 06:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @equbuntu https://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/877397487992143872 | Jun 21 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by The latest The Ubuntu Daily! https://t.co/3rzYpmfSb0 | Jun 21 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines @security_wang | Jun 21 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @phoronix #ubuntu #security | Jun 21 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The Ubuntu Daily | Jun 21 07:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 07:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mrt1n3z/status/877406123921469440 | Jun 21 07:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mrt1n3z: Y was tambien y face https://t.co/uN4mL3NQ08 | Jun 21 07:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #bbc 'ad' for #whatsapp which has back doors https://t.co/33wL7Su9Q0 #facebook #encryption is a mirage | Jun 21 07:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877406423541579776 | Jun 21 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #Cossacks3, #SeriousSam, #Sombrero Spaghetti | Jun 21 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Western Mayhem, #HITMAN, and #RocketLeague | Jun 21 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GzYlaUuxX0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 21 07:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Cossacks 3, Serious Sam, Sombrero: Spaghetti Western Mayhem, HITMAN, and Rocket League | Tux Machines | Jun 21 07:06 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/XPzd3Fm.gif | Jun 21 07:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877407282925113344 | Jun 21 07:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Shotwell 0.27.0 | Jun 21 07:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EVRaLqjEbZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome | Jun 21 07:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 21 07:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shotwell 0.27.0 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 07:16 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/I0xU4 | Jun 21 07:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It'll be fine - Album on Imgur | Jun 21 07:19 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9491324 | Jun 21 07:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "This article was sponsored by Microsoft and written by Linux.com." https://www.linux.com/blog/event/lc3-china/2017/6/innovating-open-source-microsofts-story #microsoft pays @linuxfoundation for puff piece | Jun 21 07:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Innovating With Open Source: Microsoft’s Story | Linux.com | The source for Linux information [ http://ur1.ca/r17gr ] | Jun 21 07:26 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lennart-casync | Jun 21 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lennart Poettering Announces New Project: casync - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r17ih ] | Jun 21 07:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tradeatore favourited 'Games: #Cossacks3, #SeriousSam, #Sombrero Spaghetti Western Mayhem, #HITMAN,...' | Jun 21 07:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @InfinityTARD favourited 'Games: #Cossacks3, #SeriousSam, #Sombrero Spaghetti Western Mayhem, #HITMAN,...' | Jun 21 07:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877419668037935106 | Jun 21 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Games: #Cossacks3, #SeriousSam, #Sombrero Spaghetti | Jun 21 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Western Mayhem, #HITMAN, and #RocketLeague | Jun 21 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GzYlaUuxX0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 21 07:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877419732428890115 | Jun 21 07:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Shotwell 0.27.0 | Jun 21 07:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/EVRaLqjEbZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome | Jun 21 07:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 21 07:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877420399197392896 | Jun 21 08:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 21 08:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gkHejdnTHX (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix | Jun 21 08:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 21 08:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 08:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 21 08:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877421180214534144 | Jun 21 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu: Accelerated Video Playback, #Netplan By Default, | Jun 21 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux 4.13 | Jun 21 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KLiDIO0taP (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 21 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #canonical #gnu #linux | Jun 21 08:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: Accelerated Video Playback, Netplan By Default, Linux 4.13 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 08:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/gkHejdnTHX #unix #linux #gnu...' | Jun 21 08:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu: Accelerated Video Playback, #Netplan By Default, #Linux...' | Jun 21 08:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cybershellsec retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu: Accelerated Video Playback, #Netplan By Default, #Linux...' | Jun 21 08:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877431892877901824 | Jun 21 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat Profit Climbs 10% | Jun 21 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/w2rzLiFza9 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 21 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #jboss #freesw | Jun 21 08:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Profit Climbs 10% | Tux Machines | Jun 21 08:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877432566982336512 | Jun 21 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Partnerships and Training, AWS Alliance, and New | Jun 21 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Interview | Jun 21 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Wahuvp0GuP (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 21 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #aws #gnu #linux | Jun 21 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Partnerships and Training, AWS Alliance, and New Interview | Tux Machines | Jun 21 08:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Profit Climbs 10% https://t.co/w2rzLiFza9 #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 08:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat Partnerships and Training, AWS Alliance, and...' | Jun 21 08:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RmTux retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Profit Climbs 10% https://t.co/w2rzLiFza9 #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 08:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Profit Climbs 10% https://t.co/w2rzLiFza9 #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 08:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877435395780354049 | Jun 21 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KTechLab Revived | Jun 21 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/X4XkMnnU3u (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #gnu | Jun 21 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 21 08:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KTechLab Revived | Tux Machines | Jun 21 08:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877435767966113792 | Jun 21 09:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #NSA on #Github Now | Jun 21 09:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OwuWpRv5uc (www.tuxmachines.org) #security | Jun 21 09:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NSA on Github Now | Tux Machines | Jun 21 09:01 | |
| XRevan86 | > #rekonq works with neither #mastodon nor #diaspora and #qupzilla works OK with #diaspora and even #twitter - not too bad. | Jun 21 09:02 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: There's a reason for that: rekonq is QWebKit based, QupZilla migrated to QWebEngine recently (Blink). | Jun 21 09:03 |
| XRevan86 | I guess nobody tests stuff in WebKit anymore :). | Jun 21 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877436196942749696 | Jun 21 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security: new updates, new flaws, and #SELinux | Jun 21 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZDe5AVaWG4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freeswwwwww | Jun 21 09:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: new updates, new flaws, and SELinux | Tux Machines | Jun 21 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KTechLab Revived https://t.co/X4XkMnnU3u #kde #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#NSA on #Github Now https://t.co/OwuWpRv5uc #security...' | Jun 21 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: new updates, new flaws, and #SELinux ...' | Jun 21 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StayBeauti_ful retweeted @tuxmachines: '#NSA on #Github Now https://t.co/OwuWpRv5uc #security...' | Jun 21 09:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877437979823943681 | Jun 21 09:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora 26 Plans, #CDK 3.0 on Fedora 25, and #Bodhi 2.8.0 | Jun 21 09:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aemYH2nGZT (www.tuxmachines.org) #f25 #f26 | Jun 21 09:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 21 09:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 26 Plans, CDK 3.0 on Fedora 25, and Bodhi 2.8.0 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 09:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877438501540724736 | Jun 21 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS: Opus 1.2, #GraphQL, #casync, #Tensor2Tensor and More | Jun 21 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OnLmPVg4qB (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 09:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS: Opus 1.2, GraphQL, casync, Tensor2Tensor and More | Tux Machines | Jun 21 09:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877439526918119428 | Jun 21 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft #Openwashing by the Linux Foundation, Lockin | Jun 21 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Model, and More Openwashing With the @LinuxFoundation | Jun 21 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dzKwCEFNUa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 09:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Openwashing by the Linux Foundation, Lockin Model, and More Openwashing With the Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Jun 21 09:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fedora 26 Plans, #CDK 3.0 on Fedora 25,...' | Jun 21 09:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'OSS: Opus 1.2, #GraphQL, #casync, #Tensor2Tensor and More...' | Jun 21 09:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877439644215934976 | Jun 21 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Microsoft #Openwashing by the Linux Foundation, Lockin | Jun 21 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Model, and More Openwashing With the @LinuxFoundation | Jun 21 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dzKwCEFNUa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 09:32 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based...' | Jun 21 09:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ScapholdDotIO favourited 'OSS: Opus 1.2, #GraphQL, #casync, #Tensor2Tensor and More...' | Jun 21 09:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based...' | Jun 21 09:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @IainIsCreative favourited '#NSA on #Github Now https://t.co/OwuWpRv5uc #security...' | Jun 21 09:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NSA on Github Now | Tux Machines | Jun 21 09:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ebijun favourited 'NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve...' | Jun 21 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877452793577078785 | Jun 21 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why aren't more researchers using open source? | Jun 21 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EQfDlTutTD (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #research #science | Jun 21 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 10:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why aren't more researchers using open source? | Tux Machines | Jun 21 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877452976599728128 | Jun 21 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Using #Kdump for examining #Linux #Kernel crashes | Jun 21 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/H1sJkn1ZBV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 10:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Using Kdump for examining Linux Kernel crashes | Tux Machines | Jun 21 10:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why aren't more researchers using open source? https://t.co/EQfDlTutTD...' | Jun 21 10:09 | |
| r_schestowitz | XRevan86: thanks for the tip | Jun 21 10:13 |
| XRevan86 | r_schestowitz: :) | Jun 21 10:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877453479840710656 | Jun 21 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Using #Kdump for examining #Linux #Kernel crashes | Jun 21 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/H1sJkn1ZBV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 11:05 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited 'ROSA R9 Linux OS Now Shipping with a...' | Jun 21 11:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/technologytales/status/877468092087107584 | Jun 21 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 21 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @technologytales Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 21 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 21 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 11:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based on Bodhi | Tux Machines | Jun 21 11:08 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i don't trust poettering's crap | Jun 21 11:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/iamunnip/status/877502712241283072 | Jun 21 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 21 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iamunnip Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 21 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 21 13:26 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: I guess you have already seen this https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo | Jun 21 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - dspinellis/unix-history-repo: Continuous Unix commit history from 1970 until today [ http://ur1.ca/r19jv ] | Jun 21 13:52 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 21 14:29 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 21 14:29 |
| razielle_tzu | 'sup? | Jun 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz | yo | Jun 21 14:39 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: got an annoying meeting coming up! | Jun 21 14:50 |
| sebsebseb | here | Jun 21 14:50 |
| sebsebseb | then tommrowo should be good :d | Jun 21 14:50 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: going to have to kick dogs out of other room before that ! | Jun 21 14:51 |
| sebsebseb | or try to hmm | Jun 21 14:51 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: computer support tommorow, and public speaking :D | Jun 21 14:53 |
| razielle_tzu | fair | Jun 21 14:53 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CrashPlanSlow favourited 'Software: Journal Apps, #GNU #Automake, #Weblate, #Gammu, and...' | Jun 21 14:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StayBeauti_ful favourited '#Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based...' | Jun 21 14:53 | |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: thats lots of WIndows stuff :D oh yeah | Jun 21 14:53 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: 10 pound an hour | Jun 21 14:54 |
| sebsebseb | I should make quite a lot tommorow :D | Jun 21 14:54 |
| sebsebseb | its Windows after all ! | Jun 21 14:54 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: hi | Jun 21 14:54 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: hi | Jun 21 14:54 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: That's the best Windows feature, yeah. | Jun 21 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yep nice and slow :d | Jun 21 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | yes mamybe I aam wrong and can aactsaully make enough money doing windows system admin home sjupport small bsuiness etc hmm | Jun 21 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | he h h eh | Jun 21 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | but really I am doing Linuxey stuff tomrowow | Jun 21 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | with a woman from my lug | Jun 21 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | back to Linux after 8 years | Jun 21 14:56 |
| *XRevan86 is confused now :). | Jun 21 14:56 | |
| sebsebseb | invited her to my other group as well so hopefuly comes :) | Jun 21 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: I am doing Linux support tommorwo for real not Windows | Jun 21 14:56 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: And what's with 8 years? | Jun 21 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: she hasn't been using desktop linux for 8 years | Jun 21 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | You haven't used Linux in 8 years? | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | no her | Jun 21 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | oh, she hasn't | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | the woman | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | shes back recnetly using it | Jun 21 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: You can tell her that a random dude from Russia approved her choice :). | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: shes scared to re install ubuntu | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | despite having a seprate /home | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | and worried about slogin some things | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | so going to put another ubuntu install on tomrowo as well probably | Jun 21 14:58 |
| sebsebseb | seems she already has a seprate /home as well, some guy in a shop set her up | Jun 21 14:58 |
| sebsebseb | yep dual booting ubuntu :d same distro same version | Jun 21 14:58 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: When I did reinstalling, I got the old distro stacked in a directory. | Jun 21 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | so that I could get stuff from it using chroot | Jun 21 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | and then easily "rm -rf" it when enough time passed | Jun 21 14:59 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yeah but will keep it | Jun 21 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | she has some custom set up etc | Jun 21 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | taht doens't want toj ust lose | Jun 21 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Also, why reinstalling? | Jun 21 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | will take her time to set up | Jun 21 15:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/StayBeauti_ful/status/877524964185952256 | Jun 21 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 21 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @StayBeauti_ful Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 21 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 21 15:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based on Bodhi | Tux Machines | Jun 21 15:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877529752646688768 | Jun 21 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat is Breaking Records | Jun 21 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5DDvAlszpt (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 21 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #rht | Jun 21 15:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat is Breaking Records | Tux Machines | Jun 21 15:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat is Breaking Records https://t.co/5DDvAlszpt #redhat #rht...' | Jun 21 15:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Amandajeyanam favourited 'Red Hat is Breaking Records https://t.co/5DDvAlszpt #redhat #rht...' | Jun 21 15:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877532157173956608 | Jun 21 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Devuan and #Debian Updates | Jun 21 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #systemd | Jun 21 15:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan and Debian Updates | Tux Machines | Jun 21 15:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Devuan and #Debian Updates https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 15:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden This reaffirms the view that people must...' | Jun 21 15:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877535051315113984 | Jun 21 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics News: Intel KVMGT/XenGT GVT-g, Radeon Instinct | Jun 21 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Accelerator, Intel Graphics Driver Updates For #Linux | Jun 21 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.13 | Jun 21 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iQ0TXl5MLS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 15:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics News: Intel KVMGT/XenGT GVT-g, Radeon Instinct Accelerator, Intel Graphics Driver Updates For Linux 4.13 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 15:34 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics News: Intel KVMGT/XenGT GVT-g, Radeon Instinct Accelerator,...' | Jun 21 15:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/877538388890591235 | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Graphics News: Intel KVMGT/XenGT GVT-g, Radeon Instinct | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 Accelerator, Intel Graphics Driver Updates For #Linux | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.13 | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iQ0TXl5MLS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 15:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877538636539015170 | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games (Proprietary) | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rYDzXQvY38 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming #gnu #linux | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 15:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AllDayIndieDev retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform...' | Jun 21 15:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform Games (Proprietary) | Tux Machines | Jun 21 15:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AllDayIndieDev favourited 'Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform...' | Jun 21 15:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/877539064563585026 | Jun 21 15:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Devuan and #Debian Updates | Jun 21 15:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 15:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #systemd | Jun 21 15:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 15:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan and Debian Updates | Tux Machines | Jun 21 15:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform...' | Jun 21 15:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StephenLSims retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform...' | Jun 21 15:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877540677533532160 | Jun 21 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux on Devices: #Linaro, #RaspberryPi, #Joule, | Jun 21 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Edison, and #Galileo | Jun 21 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mfWcQTsdz4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi #gnu | Jun 21 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #intel | Jun 21 15:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux on Devices: Linaro, Raspberry Pi, Joule, Edison, and Galileo | Tux Machines | Jun 21 15:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @calcaware retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux on Devices: #Linaro, #RaspberryPi, #Joule, #Edison, and...' | Jun 21 15:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/877542768578629633 | Jun 21 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Devuan and #Debian Updates | Jun 21 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #systemd | Jun 21 16:05 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@MacCocktail @Snowden It's about control. If they cannot...' | Jun 21 16:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @MacCocktail @Snowden It's about control. If...' | Jun 21 16:10 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @BitcoinWrld favourited '#Devuan and #Debian Updates https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 16:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877548984260329473 | Jun 21 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE News: #Calamares, #FOSSASIA, #DigiKam, Curves, | Jun 21 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KRuler, and More | Jun 21 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DTGZNqAvYD (www.tuxmachines.org) #plasma | Jun 21 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 21 16:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE News: #Calamares, #FOSSASIA, #DigiKam, Curves, | Jun 21 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #KRuler, and More | Jun 21 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DTGZNqAvYD (www.tuxmachines.org) #plasma | Jun 21 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 21 16:46 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may Labour got nearly as many votes...' | Jun 21 16:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may Labour got nearly as...' | Jun 21 16:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE News: #Calamares, #FOSSASIA, #DigiKam, Curves, #KRuler, and...' | Jun 21 16:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877554194387017729 | Jun 21 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Univention Corporate Server 4.2-1 | Jun 21 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0APUX4huK3 (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian | Jun 21 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #ucs | Jun 21 16:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Univention Corporate Server 4.2-1 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 16:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877555240308019200 | Jun 21 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mozilla News: #Firefox Focus for #Android, $2 Million | Jun 21 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Prize to Decentralize, and #AdBlocking | Jun 21 16:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla News: Firefox Focus for Android, $2 Million Prize to Decentralize, and Ad Blocking | Tux Machines | Jun 21 16:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Univention Corporate Server 4.2-1 https://t.co/0APUX4huK3 #debian #gnu...' | Jun 21 16:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877556162878689281 | Jun 21 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 21 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8V8UbEF6Dm (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 21 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #linux | Jun 21 17:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Mozilla News: #Firefox Focus for #Android, $2 Million...' | Jun 21 17:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/8V8UbEF6Dm #howto #unix #linux...' | Jun 21 17:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/877557990643159041 | Jun 21 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE News: #Calamares, #FOSSASIA, #DigiKam, Curves, | Jun 21 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec #KRuler, and More | Jun 21 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DTGZNqAvYD (www.tuxmachines.org) #plasma | Jun 21 17:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Programming: #GCC and #Java | Jun 21 17:10 |
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| MinceR | http://random.cat/i/ZHOEq.jpg | Jun 21 19:57 |
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| MinceR | apparently qupzilla 2.0.0 uses QtWebEngine, which is based on Blink | Jun 21 20:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yeah, it does. | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | just checked their blog | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | a moment ago | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | last release in March | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | I am trying to get my head around it | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | there are some things that don't work too well | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | Asa wrote to me today | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | to offer help with Firefox | Jun 21 20:41 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: QupZilla does get new commits and stuff. | Jun 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz | it works OK for most things | Jun 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz | I still use Firefox only for a few things | Jun 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz | and it make a mess with RAM if I start it | Jun 21 20:42 |
| XRevan86 | It eats 1.5G for me right now, out of 8G | Jun 21 20:43 |
| schestowitz | how many tabs? | Jun 21 20:43 |
| schestowitz | and how much of this RAM is in the heap? | Jun 21 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: 39 tabs | Jun 21 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | 922.00 MB ── heap-mapped | 705.68 MB ── heap-allocated | Jun 21 20:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: that? | Jun 21 20:44 |
| schestowitz | so less than a gig | Jun 21 20:45 |
| schestowitz | or 24mb per tab | Jun 21 20:45 |
| XRevan86 | > or 24mb per tab | Jun 21 20:46 |
| XRevan86 | I don't have multiprocessing enabled | Jun 21 20:46 |
| XRevan86 | too many addons :) | Jun 21 20:46 |
| schestowitz | firefox started crashing on me | Jun 21 20:46 |
| schestowitz | almost at random | Jun 21 20:46 |
| schestowitz | so I wanted multi-process | Jun 21 20:46 |
| schestowitz | the whole thing is a mess | Jun 21 20:46 |
| XRevan86 | Things work fine by me, really. | Jun 21 20:47 |
| XRevan86 | At least in this point in time. I dread the removal of XUL. | Jun 21 20:48 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/BRP4Dmy | Jun 21 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Discovered I've still got a nest of cats infecting my bed. I'll re-treat the area again this week. - GIF on Imgur | Jun 21 20:54 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: wow, ears.... | Jun 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz | US power socket | Jun 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/gallery/B4P25 | Jun 21 21:05 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jun 21 21:06 |
| XRevan86 | Someone just posted an imgur link in a different chat. I opened it and it showed 404. Again. What the fudge… | Jun 21 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | It's the second imgur link that shows me 404 in Firefox. | Jun 21 21:30 |
| MinceR | imgur has gone cancerous | Jun 21 21:36 |
| MinceR | they fuck with direct links | Jun 21 21:36 |
| MinceR | naturally, they bloated their site first | Jun 21 21:36 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: indeed | Jun 21 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | OpenMandriva made the bizarre decision to change the default compiler to Clang. | Jun 21 21:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Quite a while ago. | Jun 21 21:38 |
| XRevan86 | Nobody cares about Mandriva so it went unnoticed. | Jun 21 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | Phoronix benchmarked it against other distributions and found that it wasn't the best performing distro on any of the tests, but it came in dead last on four of them. | Jun 21 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | One of the reasons I use Fedora is because they always use something close to the latest GCC and glibc, among other things. | Jun 21 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | So it usually performs very well. | Jun 21 21:39 |
| *XRevan86 looks at gcc-7-2.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.25-2.3.x86_64 | Jun 21 21:40 | |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: What versions do you have on Fedora? | Jun 21 21:40 |
| XRevan86 | * gcc7-7.1.1+r248590-1.1.x86_64 | Jun 21 21:41 |
| XRevan86 | wrong package | Jun 21 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | GCC 7.1.1 and Glibc 2.25, but they frequently update their package past the official stated version. | Jun 21 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | They pushed an updated glibc that took it to the latest git commit for the 2.25 branch this morning. | Jun 21 21:42 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I see you're on beta | Jun 21 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | Because it fixed a list of bugs and one CVE. | Jun 21 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, and it's quite stable right now. | Jun 21 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | There were some issues of parts of the Gnome Shell crashing earlier in the cycle. | Jun 21 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | It was frustrating, but it's not a finished product, so there's that. | Jun 21 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | They just released the latest stable Mesa packages as well. | Jun 21 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | A bunch of Intel bugs fixed in 17.1.3. | Jun 21 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Skylake is starting to work quite nicely. | Jun 21 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | I may not ultimately stick with Fedora. | Jun 21 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | I might keep 26 around for a while and hop off onto CentOS 8 at some point in the future. | Jun 21 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | I very much doubt that CentOS 8 is more than a year out. | Jun 21 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | I could do an in place upgrade to Fedora 27 if I need to. Their process is finally reliable. | Jun 21 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Gallium-Uniform-Packing | Jun 21 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More Driver CPU Overhead Work Being Tackled By Valve Developers - Phoronix | Jun 21 21:49 | |
| DaemonFC | It's nice to see Valve so interested in Linux. | Jun 21 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed several video games that work better on Intel's Linux drivers than on their Windows 10 stuff. | Jun 21 21:51 |
| MinceR | it would be nicer if they were also interested in GNU | Jun 21 21:51 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Well, they use GNU stuff %) | Jun 21 21:51 |
| MinceR | afaik they depend on a fuckton of poetteringware | Jun 21 21:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: SteamOS is Debian based. | Jun 21 21:52 |
| MinceR | which is lendows | Jun 21 21:53 |
| cubexyz | did you look at casync? | Jun 21 22:06 |
| MinceR | no | Jun 21 22:06 |
| cubexyz | the first thing I thought when I heard about it was if it would work without systemd | Jun 21 22:08 |
| cubexyz | ok, good news :) | Jun 21 22:10 |
| MinceR | and you still believe poettering? | Jun 21 22:11 |
| cubexyz | it doesn't need systemd and it will work on linux systems without it | Jun 21 22:11 |
| MinceR | he's a slimy lying piece of shit | Jun 21 22:11 |
| cubexyz | why do you say that? | Jun 21 22:11 |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/pxRdY https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html | Jun 21 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | The future of the udev source tree | Jun 21 22:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop the udev firmware loader | Jun 21 22:11 | |
| MinceR | this is why i say that | Jun 21 22:11 |
| cubexyz | because you believe that udev won't stay non-systemd compatible | Jun 21 22:13 |
| MinceR | "for a long time" | Jun 21 22:14 |
| MinceR | "For us, compatibility is key." | Jun 21 22:14 |
| cubexyz | ok, it's 2017... | Jun 21 22:17 |
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| cubexyz | and I'm using slack with udev | Jun 21 22:17 |
| cubexyz | without systemd | Jun 21 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Must be an old version of udev | Jun 21 22:17 |
| MinceR | that's eudev | Jun 21 22:19 |
| MinceR | slackware switched to eudev | Jun 21 22:19 |
| MinceR | because poettering is a lying piece of shit | Jun 21 22:19 |
| cubexyz | ok, yes eudev 3.1.5 | Jun 21 22:19 |
| MinceR | (that was one of the new things in 14.2) | Jun 21 22:20 |
| cubexyz | I assume it was forked? | Jun 21 22:20 |
| cubexyz | ah yes I see it is | Jun 21 22:20 |
| MinceR | also, approximately 2 years passed between those posts | Jun 21 22:21 |
| cubexyz | two bad things happened that I didn't like | Jun 21 22:24 |
| cubexyz | scanner protocols started becaming more obfuscated around.... | Jun 21 22:25 |
| cubexyz | when HP eliminated software developer support in august of 2001 | Jun 21 22:26 |
| MinceR | also, crApple bought CUPS and shat into it | Jun 21 22:27 |
| MinceR | 1 crApple, 1 CUPS | Jun 21 22:27 |
| cubexyz | then after that /dev/usb/scanner0 was dropped... no more fopen on that | Jun 21 22:27 |
| cubexyz | so to counter that I started maintaining the older systems | Jun 21 22:28 |
| cubexyz | ok, I didn't realize apple bought CUPS | Jun 21 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | I heard that eudev was not maintained anymore. | Jun 21 22:30 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/KevFR | Jun 21 22:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This has to be the best bitch slap in the history of video games - Album on Imgur | Jun 21 22:30 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: from red hat? | Jun 21 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | No, I can't recall where I read that. | Jun 21 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 21 22:31 |
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| cubexyz | not sure what's going on with eudev to be honest | Jun 21 22:38 |
| oiaohm | One of the embed conference developers in 2016 build systemd and then left behind only udev and it worked other than systemd containing rules files. | Jun 21 22:40 |
| oiaohm | So at this stage it appears nothing any different to what was done with sysvinit to make incompatibilities with other init systems has been done. | Jun 21 22:42 |
| MinceR | finally, the white knight, defender of corrupt corporations, is here | Jun 21 22:42 |
| oiaohm | Really it s bit of a joke to thing udev was init neutral | Jun 21 22:42 |
| MinceR | yes, was. | Jun 21 22:42 |
| oiaohm | No it was not. | Jun 21 22:42 |
| MinceR | note the past tense | Jun 21 22:42 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: do you own stock in red hat? | Jun 21 22:43 |
| oiaohm | The rules were always tainted with sysvinit stuff before systemd. | Jun 21 22:43 |
| cubexyz | did apple do anything bad to CUPS? | Jun 21 22:43 |
| oiaohm | And you had to remove those when you want to use runit and other init systems. | Jun 21 22:43 |
| cubexyz | I still use it and it seems to work | Jun 21 22:43 |
| MinceR | they made the web ui unnecessarily ugly | Jun 21 22:43 |
| MinceR | and they removed some feature _they_ did not need | Jun 21 22:43 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course you never would have using a non sysvinit back then. | Jun 21 22:43 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so you would have never known. | Jun 21 22:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: sysvinit was easy to replace | Jun 21 22:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: right when in some distributions hard drives did not even udev up correctly. | Jun 21 22:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: as I said you had never tried it. | Jun 21 22:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i never needed to | Jun 21 22:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: see multi did not really exist ever. | Jun 21 22:45 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: sysvinit didn't break cron, or syslogd, or atd, or tmux, or screen, or dtach | Jun 21 22:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: only people who believed that never tried it. | Jun 21 22:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also systemd did not break tmux or screen or dtach. Any different to what could happen with consolekit. Only thing was a default change. | Jun 21 22:45 |
| cubexyz | got a bit of a shock recently about sane-rts8891 | Jun 21 22:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and cron will work under systemd | Jun 21 22:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes it did | Jun 21 22:46 |
| cubexyz | "scanners of the same model exist with different sensors" | Jun 21 22:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: consolekit did not change the default. | Jun 21 22:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes, and cronjobs will be killed if cron is restarted | Jun 21 22:46 |
| MinceR | which is completely ass backwards | Jun 21 22:46 |
| MinceR | it follows from an assumption systemd makes that simply does not hold | Jun 21 22:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it was a console kit option. To kill processes on user logout. | Jun 21 22:47 |
| MinceR | but it's not like you'd ever care | Jun 21 22:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course that was off by default. | Jun 21 22:47 |
| MinceR | because something something slowlaris fucked up similarly too | Jun 21 22:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: do you know the difference between options and defaults? | Jun 21 22:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes and being a option any distribution in a global config file any distribution could have decided to ship with it reversed. | Jun 21 22:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so prove that the choosen default is wrong. | Jun 21 22:48 |
| cubexyz | and in the old days I could specify the dpi on my scans... | Jun 21 22:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yet no distribution has. | Jun 21 22:48 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and then you could tell which distros are made by people who don't know what they're doing | Jun 21 22:48 |
| cubexyz | 175, 200, 250 whatever I wanted | Jun 21 22:48 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: as your favorite malware made it possible all the same | Jun 21 22:48 |
| cubexyz | and I don't think XPA was ever supported with rts8891 based scanners :-/ | Jun 21 22:52 |
| cubexyz | oops, wait... I stand corrected | Jun 21 22:53 |
| cubexyz | eventually we did get XPA support for HP 4470C | Jun 21 22:53 |
| cubexyz | but there are at least two different CCDs | Jun 21 22:54 |
| cubexyz | SANE deals with this by implementing CCD1 and CCD2 support | Jun 21 22:54 |
| cubexyz | yeah so I was looking at an old man page | Jun 21 22:55 |
| cubexyz | not my fault though! | Jun 21 22:56 |
| cubexyz | I even looked at slackware 14.2 man page and they just didn't bother updating it | Jun 21 22:56 |
| cubexyz | because you know everybody loves nroff so much :-P | Jun 21 22:57 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/reasoning http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1496240951-20170531after%20%281%29.png | Jun 21 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Reasoning | Jun 21 22:58 | |
| MinceR | i'd pick nroff over m$ office any day | Jun 21 22:59 |
| cubexyz | well yeah :) | Jun 21 22:59 |
| cubexyz | and you know I still use nroff | Jun 21 23:00 |
| MinceR | normally i use [La]TeX instead | Jun 21 23:03 |
| cubexyz | I'm pretty sure all SANE needed to do was turn on the XPA light, ta-da instant XPA support | Jun 21 23:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really lot of your complains are done without history. logind added as a option not default to kill processes on log out. Distributions deploying logind turned this on by config file first. The latter logind default was set to match distributions while adding option for per user override. | Jun 21 23:04 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i don't care about systemd-logind | Jun 21 23:04 |
| MinceR | never did, never will | Jun 21 23:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: So some issues with logind are coming from distributions to reduced number of bugs distributions have reported. | Jun 21 23:04 |
| MinceR | you're so zealous i can't even untangle your grammar anymore | Jun 21 23:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: hardened distributions in sysvinit were known for same thing. | Jun 21 23:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: including kill off everything in cron when cron died due to using something management around it. | Jun 21 23:05 |
| MinceR | ooh, running a massive hairball as root as pid1 is now "hardened" | Jun 21 23:05 |
| MinceR | do you get your terminology from microsoft? | Jun 21 23:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: most of this did not come from left field. | Jun 21 23:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: it should have stayed where it came from | Jun 21 23:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if you people thought this malicious shit was so perfect you should have let people choose it on their own instead of using politics to force it on everyone | Jun 21 23:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you did care about what Logind did then you should not have raised the tmux screen and detach issues. | Jun 21 23:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: at this point i'd refuse to adopt the shit you're pushing even if it was benign and good | Jun 21 23:07 |
| MinceR | that it's a piece of ill-designed malware is just icing on the turd | Jun 21 23:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not all the issue you are raising should be going back to systemd. Some are distribution maintainer selections. | Jun 21 23:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: try to get this through your thick skull: the free software community is not, and should not be, an empire | Jun 21 23:08 |
| oiaohm | Then you have to ask why are they selecting that way. | Jun 21 23:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i do not need an emperor, and i'm pretty sure many other people don't need one | Jun 21 23:08 |
| MinceR | either. | Jun 21 23:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes, which happen to be controlled by red hat | Jun 21 23:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: then why were harden distributions doing some of these thing before systemd existed. | Jun 21 23:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: hardening is not the same as randomly fucking with users and forcing things on them by using dependencies as weapons | Jun 21 23:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: logind killing screen dtach, tmux on logout is the same a console kit in harden distribution doing it. So that was hardening against a particular type of issue. Except the harded distribution was less userfriendly that user could not say X user would avoid termination. | Jun 21 23:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if one was to harden systemd, they would have to throw out most of it. | Jun 21 23:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: at any rate, hardening can only be done properly by the sysadmin, not by a self-appointed dictator from on high, since every system will be different regarding what they can let go | Jun 21 23:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: system admin still has to have the tools. Some things that systemd has done like having a option to terminate applications on user logout should be part of the default kit of tools and that is why hardened distributions had it. | Jun 21 23:14 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ill-conceived defaults are not tools | Jun 21 23:15 |
| MinceR | options are tools | Jun 21 23:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it was a option until it was seen that the first 5 distributions were turning it on by default and so far there as not being one turning it off since change to default. | Jun 21 23:15 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: maybe you need to study what "freedom" is | Jun 21 23:16 |
| oiaohm | Maybe you should. | Jun 21 23:16 |
| MinceR | the "first 5 distributions" are garbage | Jun 21 23:16 |
| oiaohm | The freedom to change the default is still there. | Jun 21 23:16 |
| MinceR | where is the freedom to not use cancerd? | Jun 21 23:16 |
| MinceR | "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call." | Jun 21 23:17 |
| oiaohm | embedded system developer use that freedom all the time. | Jun 21 23:17 |
| MinceR | as long as your beloved redhat allows them to | Jun 21 23:17 |
| oiaohm | Then the question comes why are distribution maintainers mostly choosing the same path. | Jun 21 23:17 |
| MinceR | because many of them relied on gnome, which is controlled by red hat | Jun 21 23:17 |
| MinceR | they announced that gnome will depend on systemd and the puppets followed them | Jun 21 23:18 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't know why Fedora still has Xchat packages when the last release was 7 years ago. | Jun 21 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | HexChat is actively developed. They have that too. | Jun 21 23:31 |
| MinceR | if things are properly automatized, it might be less work to leave it in | Jun 21 23:32 |
| cubexyz | I'm using xchat still | Jun 21 23:37 |
| cubexyz | 2.8.6 on this box | Jun 21 23:38 |
| MinceR | i tried weechat, then went back to irssi | Jun 21 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://hexchat.github.io/news/hexchat-and-antivirus.html | Jun 21 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hexchat.github.io | HexChat and antivirus – HexChat | Jun 21 23:40 | |
| DaemonFC | When I used IRC on my AT&T DSL account years ago ,they kept sending me warnings that I had a virus. | Jun 21 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | And as proof, "There was IRC traffic detected from your computer.". | Jun 21 23:40 |
| cubexyz | slackware 14.2 has hexchat | Jun 21 23:40 |
| cubexyz | evidently the windows version of xchat was shareware and you were supposed to pay a one-time fee of $20 | Jun 21 23:43 |
| cubexyz | hexedit and xchat look very similar | Jun 21 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-CET-GCC-Patches | Jun 22 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Posts Control-Flow Enforcement Support For GCC - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r1cvb ] | Jun 22 00:03 | |
| DaemonFC | Should be the default ASAP. There's no downside to running the program on a processor without support for it other than the additional protection won't work. | Jun 22 00:03 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump That's because DNC are pathetic liars whose...' | Jun 22 15:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump And with sufficient media connections, like those...' | Jun 22 15:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump How formal a tweet. You realise all...' | Jun 22 15:18 | |
| XRevan86 | http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/f9x2th7 The Poland's Sejm approved a law banning Soviet monuments (communist propaganda). | Jun 22 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiadomosci.onet.pl | Sejm uchwalił nowelę ustawy o zakazie propagowania komunizmu - Wiadomości | Jun 22 15:20 | |
| XRevan86 | Another country realised monuments of previous regimes are obsolete and must be removed. | Jun 22 15:21 |
| XRevan86 | When will monuments of Julius Caesar and Napoleon Bonaparte finally be gone? | Jun 22 15:22 |
| XRevan86 | These people were jerks, humanity should just forget they even existed. | Jun 22 15:23 |
| XRevan86 | And piramids are but a reminder of faraon oppression that glorify some jerk's ego. | Jun 22 15:24 |
| XRevan86 | All those monuments, propaganda of the past… It all should simply be destroyed. | Jun 22 15:27 |
| XRevan86 | I think 1984 covered this topic but never mid. | Jun 22 15:28 |
| XRevan86 | mind | Jun 22 15:28 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Just stick to signing agreements with terrorists....' | Jun 22 15:54 | |
| MinceR | some of those were bigger jerks than others, especially in the context of their contemporaries | Jun 22 15:56 |
| MinceR | oh wait, there i go, "excessively" "demonizing" stalin... | Jun 22 15:56 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @AP #obama said #WeTorturedSomeFolks in the past...' | Jun 22 15:57 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yeah, nobody can top faraons. Well, maybe Hitler. | Jun 22 16:00 |
| MinceR | what the pharaohs did was standard for their time, though | Jun 22 16:00 |
| MinceR | what stalin and hitler did, not so much | Jun 22 16:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen News: Xender, TVs and More | Jun 22 16:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen News: Xender, TVs and More | Tux Machines | Jun 22 16:05 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This reminds me of what the US did to people of Japanese nationality during WWII | Jun 22 16:05 |
| MinceR | yeah, that was nasty too | Jun 22 16:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877905153944199168 | Jun 22 16:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat's Latest Product/Service and Great Results | Jun 22 16:06 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Stalin was a big bafoon but he wasn't that much behind the times. | Jun 22 16:06 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's not like he had tens of millions of people killed in the 20th century or anything | Jun 22 16:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I thought the number is around a million | Jun 22 16:08 |
| MinceR | is that what putin's propaganda says nowadays about his idol? | Jun 22 16:09 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat's Latest Product/Service and Great Results ...' | Jun 22 16:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden He and McCain were supposed to have...' | Jun 22 16:11 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: 600 000 people political convicts killed. | Jun 22 16:11 |
| XRevan86 | directly or in prison | Jun 22 16:11 |
| MinceR | then there's at least 2.4 million as part of the holodomor | Jun 22 16:12 |
| MinceR | and that's apparently just a fraction of what he did | Jun 22 16:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If political mistakes count, then the number is bigger of course. | Jun 22 16:13 |
| MinceR | interesting terminology there | Jun 22 16:13 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's quite different, the repression apparatus and misgovern | Jun 22 16:15 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden He and McCain were supposed...' | Jun 22 16:16 | |
| MinceR | yes, an engineered famine is mere "misgovernment", a "mistake" | Jun 22 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So it was engineered? | Jun 22 16:18 |
| MinceR | it was | Jun 22 16:18 |
| XRevan86 | There are much quicker and easier ways of eliminating USSR from within | Jun 22 16:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Whom could it benefit? | Jun 22 16:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877908041013882880 | Jun 22 16:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development: #PHP 7.2 Alpha, #Python Community, and More | Jun 22 16:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #programming #freesw | Jun 22 16:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development: PHP 7.2 Alpha, Python Community, and More | Tux Machines | Jun 22 16:19 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's safe to assume that Stalin's goal wasn't increasing misery of USSR. | Jun 22 16:20 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 22 16:20 |
| MinceR | one hypothesis was that he used it to kill off an independence movement | Jun 22 16:21 |
| MinceR | but he was a nutcase, so who knows | Jun 22 16:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The Ukrainian anarchists? | Jun 22 16:21 |
| XRevan86 | I don't think they were big enough at a time… | Jun 22 16:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He wasn't that much of a nutcase. | Jun 22 16:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877908921196855296 | Jun 22 16:22 |
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| XRevan86 | If he knew the results of his reforms (a famine), he'd knew what a devastating effect it would have for the whole union and him personally. | Jun 22 16:23 |
| MinceR | oh, right, i forgot that humanity doubled down on authoritarianism and self-harm since 2010 | Jun 22 16:23 |
| MinceR | stalin and hitler are 'hip' now | Jun 22 16:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They both weren't even human, literally Anti-Christs, both of them/ | Jun 22 16:25 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor#cite_note-britannica-13 | Jun 22 16:25 |
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| MinceR | ""Its deliberate nature is underscored by the fact that no physical basis for famine existed in Ukraine ... Soviet authorities set requisition quotas for Ukraine at an impossibly high level. Brigades of special agents were dispatched to Ukraine to assist in procurement, and homes were routinely searched and foodstuffs confiscated ... The rural population was left with insufficient food to feed itself." | Jun 22 16:26 |
| MinceR | "reforms" | Jun 22 16:26 |
| MinceR | "mistake" | Jun 22 16:26 |
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| XRevan86 | > that no physical basis for famine existed in Ukraine | Jun 22 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's not a proof of the deliberate nature. | Jun 22 16:27 |
| MinceR | >underscored | Jun 22 16:28 |
| MinceR | read on. | Jun 22 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's how forced collectivisation was done, across the whole union. | Jun 22 16:28 |
| MinceR | usually not to the extent that it caused millions to starve to death, though | Jun 22 16:28 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: It kinda did | Jun 22 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Ukraine_famine_map.png | Jun 22 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This is a famine map, so to say | Jun 22 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | black bold lines are borders of the Ukrainian SSR | Jun 22 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | + Crimea | Jun 22 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | (wasn't a part of the Ukrainian SSR during Stalin's reign) | Jun 22 16:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Notice how the famine doesn't care about the black bold line. | Jun 22 16:32 |
| MinceR | ah, so the "mistake" was that they managed to kill people elsewhere as well | Jun 22 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | and is actually bigger than this Ukraine-concentrated map | Jun 22 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Famine_en_URSS_1933.jpg | Jun 22 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Every agrarian region of USSR suffered. | Jun 22 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | Is it because Stalin wanted to kill Ukrainians or is it because agrarian regions are what should be affected by a sloppy agrarian reform? | Jun 22 16:34 |
| XRevan86 | (Ukraine was the heart of the USSR's agrarian production) | Jun 22 16:35 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't call absurdly high requisition quotas and confiscating food a "reform" | Jun 22 16:38 |
| MinceR | but maybe that's because i'm not a communist | Jun 22 16:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Actually, in a way you're right. | Jun 22 16:39 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine there is high alignments. | Jun 22 16:40 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: The first wave of collectivisation (voluntary) gave very impressive results; | Jun 22 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: When the second wave (forced) which was supposed to move USSR to mega-prosperity, turned out not to be so peachy; | Jun 22 16:40 |
| oiaohm | Both 1932 russia and 1958 China both attempted rapid changes to food production The year latter everything started falling in on them. | Jun 22 16:41 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The bureaucrats started thinking that this is because the greedy people were hiding stuff for themselves | Jun 22 16:41 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Hence high requisition quotas, because the authorities thought people have much-much more just not giving away. | Jun 22 16:42 |
| MinceR | and there was no room for verifying assumptions on the go in communist methodology? | Jun 22 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Look at how Stalin governened and you'll see that nope. | Jun 22 16:43 |
| MinceR | must be the usual case of "ideology is always right, reality is sometimes wrong" | Jun 22 16:43 |
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| oiaohm | Really both famines I am not exactly sure if they are genocide by design. I think they are both genocide due to bad planning of food production. | Jun 22 16:43 |
| MinceR | yet you claim he was sane | Jun 22 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | It's not just this particular example, the whole Stalin's reign was like that. | Jun 22 16:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: of course you would | Jun 22 16:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you worship evil in all forms | Jun 22 16:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its what the history document support. | Jun 22 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You claimed he was a complete evil looney | Jun 22 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I have to scale that down | Jun 22 16:44 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: which he was | Jun 22 16:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: sure it is | Jun 22 16:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you just need to find the right "document"s | Jun 22 16:44 |
| MinceR | or write them. | Jun 22 16:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that they run out of food before they genocide rationing starts. | Jun 22 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's the kind of looking at history done in cartoons. | Jun 22 16:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you would think a planned one they would have had safe stock piles for themselves. | Jun 22 16:45 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: no, unfortunately that's the kind of behavior humans cultivate in some eras | Jun 22 16:45 |
| MinceR | like in the present one | Jun 22 16:45 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: they didn't live in ukraine. | Jun 22 16:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: all areas of russia has food restrictions in that time. | Jun 22 16:45 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And so you think it's plausable that he intentionally designed the famine. | Jun 22 16:45 |
| MinceR | apparently cartoonishly extreme evil is so unbelievable that people ignore it | Jun 22 16:46 |
| MinceR | and even defend it | Jun 22 16:46 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Evidence is against it. | Jun 22 16:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: just ukraine and other areas to fatal levels. | Jun 22 16:46 |
| MinceR | clever ploy | Jun 22 16:46 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: not the evidence i saw | Jun 22 16:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: include some areas pro russia. | Jun 22 16:46 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If that was the case, how did USSR managed to survive Stalin at all? | Jun 22 16:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: most russians were almost as worthless to stalin and his pals as ukrainians were | Jun 22 16:46 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: good question | Jun 22 16:46 |
| MinceR | bad luck, i guess | Jun 22 16:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you might want to look into the concept of the totalitarian dictatorship. | Jun 22 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | It's like thinking that the real Hitler's agenda was to destroy Germany. | Jun 22 16:47 |
| MinceR | that it would have inescapably lead to destroying germany? | Jun 22 16:48 |
| MinceR | s/ea/e/ | Jun 22 16:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is genocide by design and genocide by opportunity. I see those famines are genoside by opportunity. Where there is not enough resources so you allocate them out in a bias way. | Jun 22 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | Hitler actually loved Jews and hated Germans, it all was a part of the plan to give Jews Israel and divide Germany into two parts. amarait? no? | Jun 22 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | I hope nobody will quote that %). | Jun 22 16:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also genoside by opportunity have happened in non totalitarian countries. | Jun 22 16:49 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: good for you, i guess | Jun 22 16:50 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: it is publicly logged | Jun 22 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You know, as long as nobody rips it out of context. | Jun 22 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | I am doomed. | Jun 22 16:51 |
| MinceR | we all are | Jun 22 16:51 |
| MinceR | we live on a planet infested with humans and we can't escape | Jun 22 16:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland) another case of poorly planned farming. | Jun 22 16:51 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: history is has famine after famine caused by poor government and farm planning. Some of those turn into genosides when it comes to how aid and food resources will be provided. | Jun 22 16:53 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: like in the case of "not at all" | Jun 22 16:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and the genosides are not restricted to one government type. | Jun 22 16:54 |
| oiaohm | So everyone no matter the country they are in should be have some worry about food production. | Jun 22 16:55 |
| MinceR | especially in dictatorships | Jun 22 16:55 |
| MinceR | and even more so in dictatorships running a command economy | Jun 22 16:55 |
| oiaohm | Funny part is some dictatorships have handled famine well. | Jun 22 16:55 |
| oiaohm | With no genoside. | Jun 22 16:55 |
| oiaohm | Mainly because the dictatorship was well managed and allowed for the existence of proper food stock piles so when thing went wrong there was a decent buffer. | Jun 22 16:57 |
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| MinceR | the only way to manage a dictatorship well is to abolish it | Jun 22 16:57 |
| MinceR | oppression always harms the economy | Jun 22 16:57 |
| MinceR | this is something humans seem to have difficulty understanding nowadays | Jun 22 16:58 |
| oiaohm | When it comes to the famine question is about management of resources and storage of resources. This is not something that particularly favours any political model. | Jun 22 16:59 |
| MinceR | you have interesting misconceptions | Jun 22 16:59 |
| oiaohm | Its more how good are your public servents at doing their jobs. | Jun 22 16:59 |
| MinceR | also depends on what their jobs are | Jun 22 17:00 |
| MinceR | it usually includes ensuring that a parasite such as stalin is well fed | Jun 22 17:00 |
| MinceR | and in the case of the holodomor, also ensuring that ukrainians starve to death | Jun 22 17:00 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: How would you rate Stalin in a unit of poetterings? | Jun 22 17:06 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 22 17:10 |
| MinceR | i have better things to do than to rate assholes | Jun 22 17:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the holodomor case is hard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power People forget at that point Hitler is already in power in Germany. Russia is not wanting to appear weak. | Jun 22 17:11 |
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| MinceR | right, the usual fascistic obsession with "strength" | Jun 22 17:12 |
| MinceR | same as today | Jun 22 17:12 |
| MinceR | but i guess once you've managed to starve your entire population to death, the other dictators will no longer doubt your strength! | Jun 22 17:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no matter the government type the obsession with strength can exist leading to very bad choice making. | Jun 22 17:13 |
| MinceR | totally worth not even having an army anymore | Jun 22 17:13 |
| MinceR | or food | Jun 22 17:13 |
| MinceR | it's not a question of government type | Jun 22 17:13 |
| MinceR | it's a question of human mental issues | Jun 22 17:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you do a chart of famine in the USA at the moment it looks lot like the 1933 russia one. People forget 1 in 6 people in the USA are starving to death. | Jun 22 17:16 |
| MinceR | and which ethnic group is seen as rebellious by the government? | Jun 22 17:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes it ethnically zoned. | Jun 22 17:16 |
| MinceR | and how many have died in a year so far? | Jun 22 17:17 |
| abeNd-org | & how many that aren't starving are obese? | Jun 22 17:18 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: USA only really takes out 4000 a year that way for about the last 50 odd years. | Jun 22 17:20 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: also being obese is also ethnically zoned in the USA. | Jun 22 17:20 |
| oiaohm | So if the USA does not stave the people to death they feed them on crap food and have them with shorter lives due to being obese. | Jun 22 17:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: USA has not had excuse of famine for this to be able to write off more people. | Jun 22 17:22 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yet you're trying to equate that to the holodomor | Jun 22 17:24 |
| oiaohm | Its the same behavour. | Jun 22 17:24 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 22 17:24 |
| oiaohm | famine equals that behavour accelerated. | Jun 22 17:25 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 22 17:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.worldhunger.org/hunger-in-america-2016-united-states-hunger-poverty-facts/ | Jun 22 17:26 |
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| oiaohm | Areas where 20 percent of the population are not getting enough food now MinceR | Jun 22 17:27 |
| oiaohm | Add in a famine effects on top of the USA current state you have a mess. | Jun 22 17:27 |
| MinceR | no, i don't | Jun 22 17:27 |
| oiaohm | If you know what you are looking at you can find the same warning patterns before holodomor. | Jun 22 17:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lot of these disasters don't happen without warning signs. | Jun 22 17:30 |
| MinceR | so how is the food requisitioning and confiscation going in the usa? | Jun 22 17:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: going perfectly well by the usage of money. | Jun 22 17:33 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 22 17:33 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/why-does-the-govt-pay-farmers/ really you are ingoring basic things like this. | Jun 22 17:36 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: you're confusing different things with each other | Jun 22 17:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: don't have to requisition or confiscate the food if you have paid a farmer not to produce it. | Jun 22 17:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the result is the same. | Jun 22 17:37 |
| abeNd-org | oiaohm: lol, no, I would say just about all US citizens are obese, rare is it that someone bothers to actually eat healthy | Jun 22 17:37 |
| abeNd-org | oiaohm: zoning has nothing to do with fatties | Jun 22 17:37 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: http://www.worldhunger.org/hunger-in-america-2016-united-states-hunger-poverty-facts/ << the 1/6 are not obese they are in fact under weight. | Jun 22 17:37 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you don't have to anyway, that's not the issue | Jun 22 17:37 |
| MinceR | it is in fact still possible to live as a decent, civilized, intelligent being | Jun 22 17:38 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: USA is a area of polar opposites. | Jun 22 17:38 |
| MinceR | it's just that most humans don't | Jun 22 17:38 |
| abeNd-org | oiaohm: it would help if those folks actually ate real food, not crap fast food | Jun 22 17:38 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: those number are about people who cannot even by enough crap food. | Jun 22 17:38 |
| abeNd-org | pretty much anything in a drive through or boxed is trash food | Jun 22 17:38 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: so you have both the starving an the obsese in the USA. | Jun 22 17:39 |
| abeNd-org | oiaohm: sure they can, they can afford drugs, big screen TVs, iphone7+ | Jun 22 17:39 |
| abeNd-org | it is a choice | Jun 22 17:40 |
| abeNd-org | but, naaaa, personal responsibility, it is someone else's fault! | Jun 22 17:41 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: personal responsibility only gets someone so far. Areas where people are where the only food on sale is junk is big problems in the USA. Areas in the USA with no effective jobs is another. | Jun 22 17:43 |
| abeNd-org | so what did people do before the industrial revolution? surely people were able to eat then right? | Jun 22 17:44 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: also it does not help that USA graphs on obsese are done like https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity So everyone under a healthy weight gets called normal. | Jun 22 17:44 |
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| abeNd-org | oiaohm: that is the problem, obese is considered "normal", a triple bypass is not "normal" | Jun 22 17:45 |
| oiaohm | Once you subtact the ones staving. less than 8 percent of the USA population is in the heathly range. | Jun 22 17:45 |
| abeNd-org | oh yea, you don't need a study to see that, just people watch at the mall | Jun 22 17:47 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: so either obese or starving with very little in the middle. | Jun 22 17:48 |
| abeNd-org | it doesnt matter age range, ethnicity, sex, whatever other demographic, this country is full of lazy fatties | Jun 22 17:48 |
| oiaohm | saying lazy fatties is not exactly true. | Jun 22 17:49 |
| abeNd-org | & it is their own fault, sure they could eat healthy & have a modest amount of movement per work, but nope, fatties it is! | Jun 22 17:49 |
| abeNd-org | obese/fatties/whatever politically correct boring pandering wording you want to use to make everyone feel better | Jun 22 17:49 |
| oiaohm | Poor food will equal over weight. Remember some places in the USA only food shops are fast food. | Jun 22 17:49 |
| abeNd-org | yes, & again, what did people do before the industrial revolution & everything came in a box? | Jun 22 17:50 |
| abeNd-org | did people eat then? | Jun 22 17:50 |
| abeNd-org | I guess they didn't & humanity starved to death, the species ceased to exist | Jun 22 17:50 |
| abeNd-org | bummer | Jun 22 17:50 |
| oiaohm | Not everyone before the industrial revolution was healthly either. | Jun 22 17:50 |
| abeNd-org | they had such potential Jean-Luc Picard | Jun 22 17:51 |
| oiaohm | wood shaving in bread was not exactly that hot. | Jun 22 17:51 |
| oiaohm | Maybe that would help some of the health level of faster food mandate pre industrial revolution bread. | Jun 22 17:52 |
| abeNd-org | or if people tried a little bit of science backed lifestyle changes ala https://nutritionfacts.org/ | Jun 22 17:53 |
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| oiaohm | abeNd-org: people talk about eating the cardboard box that it would be better for you. The reality is some of the food before the industrial revolution was exactly taht. | Jun 22 17:53 |
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| abeNd-org | don't eat the cardboard box, & don't eat the contents either, eat real food instead | Jun 22 17:54 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: bread of the middle ages it was not uncommon to be bulked out with like saw dust. | Jun 22 17:55 |
| abeNd-org | yes, what is considered corporate greed existed back then as well | Jun 22 17:56 |
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| oiaohm | abeNd-org: saw dust does not have a weight gain problem. | Jun 22 17:57 |
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| abeNd-org | however, most people took food production into their own hands, what is so wrong with a community garden these days, plenty of land even in the most desolate food deserts | Jun 22 17:57 |
| oiaohm | High fat, high suger and high salt basically that was not before the industrial revolution in large amounts. | Jun 22 17:58 |
| abeNd-org | do you see me advocating high salt/sugar/fat diet? no, I suggest https://nutritionfacts.org/ | Jun 22 17:59 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/press | Jun 22 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Press | Jun 22 19:48 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 22 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 22 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | Will the Ford Focus jobs heading for China under Trump, after he promised to save them from Mexico, have suicide nets at the factory, just like crApple's suppliers do? | Jun 22 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Part of a comment I left for one of our US Senators. | Jun 22 19:50 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 22 19:51 |
| MinceR | http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1611 | Jun 22 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 06/15/2017 | Jun 22 19:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40366816 | Jun 22 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-California earthquake alarm sounded - 92 years late - BBC News | Jun 22 20:01 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, A computer error caused a warning for an earthquake that happened in 1925 to be issued by the US federal government, with the warning dated for June of 2025. | Jun 22 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Wow, we're so good we can predict them 8 years out? Trump Making America Great Again! | Jun 22 20:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 22 20:03 |
| schestowitz | he makes it great... not for everyone | Jun 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | privatisation is stealing of what's public | Jun 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | for the benefit of "job creators" like Trump | Jun 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | so the public is getting impoverished, poorer, without quite feeling it yet | Jun 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | public assets auctioned off | Jun 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | like USSR after the collapse | Jun 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | the oligarchs are Trump's friends | Jun 22 20:05 |
| MinceR | on the long term, for nobody | Jun 22 20:05 |
| MinceR | but dump will be dead by then, probably | Jun 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | and Kushner is among the recipients, just like in russia where putin's mates are family-like/kins | Jun 22 20:05 |
| MinceR | his stupid kids may have to face the consequences though | Jun 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | naa, they'll be rich | Jun 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | if the pitchforks come they'll move to NZ or something | Jun 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | where you can BUY a citizenship and get protected by the crony gov | Jun 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Peter Thiel already did that | Jun 22 20:06 |
| MinceR | being rich will not necessary save them | Jun 22 20:08 |
| MinceR | bombs, diseases, rising sea levels don't discriminate that much | Jun 22 20:09 |
| MinceR | and if the state fails, their money may well become worthless | Jun 22 20:09 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yeah, like how Trump cuts public housing, except for Section 8 vouchers, where he makes several million dollars a year as a slum landlord. | Jun 22 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, We're a long ways off from the government failing here. | Jun 22 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | There's plenty that are in line ahead of us | Jun 22 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Most of Europe, for example. | Jun 22 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois is like an American version of Greece though, so there's some similarities. | Jun 22 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Huge debt, staggering unemploymnet. | Jun 22 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | But the US average isn't *that* bad. | Jun 22 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois managed to promise more and more to public unions each year without actually setting money aside for things like pensions. | Jun 22 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | And now it's sitting on top of $140 billion in unfunded pensions and $14 billion of unpaid bills. | Jun 22 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | And that's just at the state level. | Jun 22 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | The state Comptroller recently warned that soon 100% of state revenue will be spent on court mandated payments, and the state might start missing bond payments. | Jun 22 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | Once that happens, it's going to be contagion for the government bond market. | Jun 22 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | We've never reached a point where an entire state has failed. | Jun 22 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | Just some large cities. | Jun 22 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | A county here and there. | Jun 22 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | Congress will be forced to pass a state bankruptcy law of some sort because Illinois will be in bankruptcy whether a court restructures anything or not. | Jun 22 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | Once you miss bond payments, either nobody loans you money or it'll be the sovereign equivalent of a payday loan. | Jun 22 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | So overnight the state will have to cut spending to cash on hand. | Jun 22 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | That means cuts on nearly everything, except the pensions, because the unions got those crammed into the state's constitution, but at that point voters will be screaming "You're taking care of them and not us!" and will force a constitutional amendment through the ballot process to void the pensions. | Jun 22 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | So, the Republicans will get what they want now or later, and shit, maybe even I vote to void the pensions. | Jun 22 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | The state is a big trash fire. | Jun 22 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | Believe me, voiding pensions entirely is not what I want to do, but you can't have a situation where all state spending is on pensions. | Jun 22 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have nothing for health care, infrastructure, education... All in bad shape right now. | Jun 22 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | At the very least, deep cuts to the pensions are necessary at this point. | Jun 22 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | Both sides are blaming each other. They figure that they can blame the other one for the wreckage and rebuild Illinois in their image once the other one is gone. | Jun 22 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 22 20:42 |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/2dy5f | Jun 22 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rock Climbing Cat. - Album on Imgur | Jun 22 21:09 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruMn_8p9qmk | Jun 22 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cat climbs up a wall. - YouTube | Jun 22 21:15 | |
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| cubexyz | Mincer, life on earth survived the Permian-Triassic extinction event | Jun 22 22:49 |
| cubexyz | so it should survive anything that humans do, assuming they don | Jun 22 22:50 |
| cubexyz | t deliberately make a doomsday device or something really stupid | Jun 22 22:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Darth_Vikkyo/status/878006530452340737 | Jun 22 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Darth_Vikkyo: @schestowitz @Joly_2u @wikileaks This coming from the same guy who swindled South American Cartels? | Jun 22 22:52 | |
| cubexyz | also grey goo would never happen | Jun 22 22:53 |
| cubexyz | replicating nanomachines would just run out of useable material | Jun 22 22:53 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: humans won't, though | Jun 22 22:54 |
| cubexyz | so the show goes on | Jun 22 22:54 |
| MinceR | also, the planet is made of usable material :> | Jun 22 22:54 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: and dump's offspring are humans | Jun 22 22:54 |
| cubexyz | Trump is merely a selfish materialist | Jun 22 22:57 |
| cubexyz | people won't vote him a 2nd term | Jun 22 22:58 |
| cubexyz | at least, I sure hope not | Jun 22 22:58 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/ZOk8I | Jun 22 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Attention to detail level: 100,000 - Album on Imgur | Jun 22 23:03 | |
| schestowitz | trump uses BreitFart as a source: 瑨灴㩳⼯睴瑩整�潣⽭敲污潄慮摬牔浵⽰瑳瑡獵㠯㠷〰㤶㐶㜰ㄲ㤸㔹 | Jun 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/878006964072189952 | Jun 22 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@realDonaldTrump: As promised, our campaign against the MS-13 gang continues. "@ICEgov Busts 39 MS-13 Members in New York Operation" https://t.co/ki41GXeCMy | Jun 22 23:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.breitbart.com | ICE Busts 39 MS-13 Members in New York Operation | Jun 22 23:04 | |
| MinceR | of course he does | Jun 22 23:04 |
| MinceR | he's aligned with the altReich | Jun 22 23:04 |
| MinceR | or at least was | Jun 22 23:04 |
| cubexyz | Trump is mainly a bullshit artist | Jun 22 23:56 |
| cubexyz | once people understand that... that should be the end of president Trump | Jun 22 23:57 |
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| cubexyz | ironic that I have the source to microsoft solitaire and not loki's EUS | Jun 23 00:27 |
| cubexyz | in fact I don't have the source to any loki game | Jun 23 00:27 |
| cubexyz | got to look into VCMI though | Jun 23 00:28 |
| cubexyz | and there's OpenHOMM | Jun 23 00:30 |
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| cubexyz | hmmm, debian wheezy might be worth another look | Jun 23 00:45 |
| cubexyz | it's got VCMI in contrib, that would save a lot of time | Jun 23 00:46 |
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| cubexyz | using windows now would feel foreign to me | Jun 23 03:58 |
| cubexyz | definitely not missing it | Jun 23 03:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Catty Snapchat Cat Dump - Album on Imgur | Jun 23 06:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/878108424583520261 | Jun 23 07:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Moto E4 #Android smartphone review | Jun 23 07:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/BXeT9S4AFY (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 23 07:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 07:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/scas/status/878141508032921600 | Jun 23 07:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based | Jun 23 07:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @scas on #Debian 9 "Stretch" https://t.co/2ThYGvHigg | Jun 23 07:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 23 07:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 23 07:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878142916400697344 | Jun 23 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #SteamVR, Controller, Sale, and #CryENGINE | Jun 23 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TdizmYPKIB (www.tuxmachines.org) #steamos | Jun 23 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #steam #games | Jun 23 07:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam VR, Controller, Sale, and CryENGINE | Tux Machines | Jun 23 07:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #SteamVR, Controller, Sale, and #CryENGINE https://t.co/TdizmYPKIB ...' | Jun 23 07:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #SteamVR, Controller, Sale, and #CryENGINE https://t.co/TdizmYPKIB ...' | Jun 23 07:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878144678469574656 | Jun 23 07:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE: #digiKam 5.6.0, #KOrganizer, Robert Kaye, and IMEs | Jun 23 07:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ApkOfRqhmg (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #gnu | Jun 23 07:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #plasma | Jun 23 07:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: digiKam 5.6.0, KOrganizer, Robert Kaye, and IMEs | Tux Machines | Jun 23 08:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE: #digiKam 5.6.0, #KOrganizer, Robert Kaye, and IMEs...' | Jun 23 08:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @webmastersguard favourited '#SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 23 08:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878146517772582912 | Jun 23 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS: #GitHub Survey, Dash, #Tensor2Tensor, #Istio and | Jun 23 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More | Jun 23 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5rJVU6YUWF (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 23 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 08:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS: GitHub Survey, Dash, Tensor2Tensor, Istio and More | Tux Machines | Jun 23 08:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'FOSS: #GitHub Survey, Dash, #Tensor2Tensor, #Istio and More...' | Jun 23 08:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878149101753434112 | Jun 23 08:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Chromebook and PCs With #GNU #Linux | Jun 23 08:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ODcnGGX32q (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 08:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chromebook and PCs With GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 23 08:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Chromebook and PCs With #GNU #Linux https://t.co/ODcnGGX32q...' | Jun 23 08:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878151400219430912 | Jun 23 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rugged Android ADAS computer does surround-view | Jun 23 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | monitoring and tracking | Jun 23 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NS9n7ssoAh (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 23 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #android | Jun 23 08:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged Android ADAS computer does surround-view monitoring and tracking | Tux Machines | Jun 23 08:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Rugged Android ADAS computer does surround-view monitoring and...' | Jun 23 08:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878154653011017728 | Jun 23 08:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Servers: #Infrakit & #LinuxKit, #CMTL, #ServiceMaster, | Jun 23 08:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Synology, #Ubuntu, and #NeuVector | Jun 23 08:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ujBIAHy3OK (www.tuxmachines.org) #server | Jun 23 08:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 08:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 08:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: Infrakit & LinuxKit, CMTL, ServiceMaster, Synology, Ubuntu, and NeuVector | Tux Machines | Jun 23 08:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Servers: #Infrakit & #LinuxKit, #CMTL, #ServiceMaster, #Synology, #Ubuntu,...' | Jun 23 08:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pyrokitteh/status/878157035581448192 | Jun 23 08:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by FOSS: #GitHub Survey, Dash, #Tensor2Tensor, #Istio and | Jun 23 08:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pyrokitteh More | Jun 23 08:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5rJVU6YUWF (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 23 08:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS: GitHub Survey, Dash, Tensor2Tensor, Istio and More | Tux Machines | Jun 23 08:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Servers: #Infrakit & #LinuxKit, #CMTL, #ServiceMaster, #Synology, #Ubuntu,...' | Jun 23 08:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878157876845568000 | Jun 23 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 23 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/G4xQxBkOTS (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix #gnu | Jun 23 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 23 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 08:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 23 08:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/G4xQxBkOTS #unix #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 08:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/G4xQxBkOTS #unix #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 08:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878159335242727424 | Jun 23 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat : #BritishArmy Deal, | Jun 23 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #HyperconvergedInfrastructure, #OpenShift, Soaring Share | Jun 23 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Price, and #Fedora | Jun 23 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LYcQr8gxwN (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 23 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 08:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat: British Army Deal, Hyperconverged Infrastructure, OpenShift, Soaring Share Price, and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jun 23 08:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#RedHat : #BritishArmy Deal, #HyperconvergedInfrastructure, #OpenShift, Soaring Share...' | Jun 23 08:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat : #BritishArmy Deal, #HyperconvergedInfrastructure, #OpenShift, Soaring Share...' | Jun 23 09:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878166015296716800 | Jun 23 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | In a matter of 2 months @tuxmachines at #mastodon gained | Jun 23 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | as many followers as #twitter in 3 years, The network | Jun 23 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | effect is there.... | Jun 23 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 09:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878166869987008512 | Jun 23 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME / #GSOC Development and Cascade Windows in | Jun 23 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOMEShell | Jun 23 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/luoiSLEhBb (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 23 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 09:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME/GSOC Development and Cascade Windows in GNOME Shell | Tux Machines | Jun 23 09:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME / #GSOC Development and Cascade Windows in...' | Jun 23 09:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878168552406081537 | Jun 23 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tumbleweed Development and Laptop Experience | Jun 23 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EgWRwx3HYD (www.tuxmachines.org) #suse | Jun 23 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #opensuse #gnu #linux | Jun 23 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 09:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tumbleweed Development and Laptop Experience | Tux Machines | Jun 23 09:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878169231111540737 | Jun 23 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Development Updates: #GDM, #Kernel, and #Ubuntu | Jun 23 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone | Jun 23 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wJW9yOYDqB (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 23 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #gnome | Jun 23 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 09:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Development Updates: GDM, Kernel, and Ubuntu Phone | Tux Machines | Jun 23 09:41 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tumbleweed Development and Laptop Experience https://t.co/EgWRwx3HYD #suse...' | Jun 23 09:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Development Updates: #GDM, #Kernel, and #Ubuntu Phone...' | Jun 23 09:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Development Updates: #GDM, #Kernel, and #Ubuntu Phone...' | Jun 23 09:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/bestariwebhost/status/878173858422861824 | Jun 23 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Ubuntu Development Updates: #GDM, #Kernel, and #Ubuntu | Jun 23 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @bestariwebhost Phone | Jun 23 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wJW9yOYDqB (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 23 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #gnome | Jun 23 10:19 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @cybershellsec retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Development Updates: #GDM, #Kernel, and #Ubuntu Phone...' | Jun 23 10:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @TheUbuntuDaily https://twitter.com/TheUbuntuDaily/status/878190532568035329 | Jun 23 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest The #Ubuntu Daily! https://t.co/CPCjdnyPPn | Jun 23 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines @ranayasirnu | Jun 23 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ubuntu_street #ubuntu #linux | Jun 23 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The #Ubuntu Daily | Jun 23 11:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 11:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @oldestlivingboy favourited 'Swimming with #SharkLinux https://t.co/NZBKaJFq0x #gnu #linux' | Jun 23 11:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20170619#sharklinux ) | Jun 23 11:56 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @oldestlivingboy favourited 'Raspberry Pi With Open Port 22 https://t.co/dPPvhbf26Y #raspi...' | Jun 23 12:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/101843 ) | Jun 23 12:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @adymitruk favourited 'KDE: #digiKam 5.6.0, #KOrganizer, Robert Kaye, and IMEs...' | Jun 23 13:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/adymitruk/status/878223683315056640 | Jun 23 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE: #digiKam 5.6.0, #KOrganizer, Robert Kaye, and IMEs | Jun 23 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @adymitruk https://t.co/ApkOfRqhmg (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #gnu | Jun 23 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #plasma | Jun 23 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 15:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: digiKam 5.6.0, KOrganizer, Robert Kaye, and IMEs | Tux Machines | Jun 23 15:27 | |
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| XRevan86 | - I, across the apartment: Putin will be re-electing. | Jun 23 15:55 |
| XRevan86 | - Mum: Good. | Jun 23 15:55 |
| MinceR | :( | Jun 23 15:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/878260857200795651 | Jun 23 16:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based | Jun 23 16:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @AlejosAngel on #Debian 9 "Stretch" https://t.co/2ThYGvHigg | Jun 23 16:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 23 16:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 16:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 23 16:00 | |
| schestowitz | [15:55] <XRevan86> - I, across the apartment: Putin will be re-electing. | Jun 23 16:11 |
| schestowitz | eelcted? | Jun 23 16:11 |
| schestowitz | or electing (himself)? | Jun 23 16:11 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: he will run for office | Jun 23 16:11 |
| schestowitz | maybe he'll find another one to swap PM position with | Jun 23 16:11 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: "run" | Jun 23 16:11 |
| schestowitz | In Putin's Russia, Office runs YOU! | Jun 23 16:11 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: He doesn't need to, it'll be his only second time in a row | Jun 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | hahaha! | Jun 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I know | Jun 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | after an hiatus | Jun 23 16:12 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: yep | Jun 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | maybe he can later change the rules like Battistelli does | Jun 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Mubarak was president for how long? 30 years? | Jun 23 16:12 |
| MinceR | re-electing himself | Jun 23 16:13 |
| schestowitz | good luck to him! | Jun 23 16:15 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure he'll manage | Jun 23 16:15 |
| schestowitz | or else some people are going to fall out of windows | Jun 23 16:15 |
| MinceR | or disappear from the street | Jun 23 16:17 |
| MinceR | or accidentally end up with polonium in their tea | Jun 23 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | The news article states that he himself didn't say that he will, but his campaign is already in work anyway. | Jun 23 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | so even without the official confirmation it's already evident | Jun 23 16:17 |
| schestowitz | [16:17] <MinceR> or accidentally end up with polonium in their tea | Jun 23 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Along with staff in the refectory/cafeteria | Jun 23 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Putin likes nuclear options | Jun 23 16:25 |
| schestowitz | the "drone strike"/"nuke strike" hero | Jun 23 16:25 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @LeslieAnderso28 favourited '#Devuan and #Debian Updates https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 16:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan and Debian Updates | Tux Machines | Jun 23 16:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878275250877747200 | Jun 23 16:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | University of #Missouri Adopts #OpenAccess | Jun 23 16:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/amEccgdc2w (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 16:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 16:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | University of Missouri Adopts Open Access | Tux Machines | Jun 23 16:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878275481040285696 | Jun 23 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by University of #Missouri Adopts #OpenAccess | Jun 23 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/amEccgdc2w (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878282642990391296 | Jun 23 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gThumb : View and manage your photos in #Fedora | Jun 23 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aPdRCV4lPr (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 23 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | gThumb: View and manage your photos in Fedora | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878282851250294784 | Jun 23 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Manjaro 17.0.1 Gellivara (Che Guevara) - Pretty decent | Jun 23 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iX0lcpJK7k (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 17.0.1 Gellivara (Che Guevara) - Pretty decent | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @technologytales retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Manjaro 17.0.1 Gellivara (Che Guevara) - Pretty decent...' | Jun 23 17:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#gThumb : View and manage your photos in...' | Jun 23 17:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Manjaro 17.0.1 Gellivara (Che Guevara) - Pretty decent...' | Jun 23 17:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878285080564609024 | Jun 23 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | No-frills networking appliance runs #Linux on Apollo Lake | Jun 23 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ibQYCvoy8n (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WinEnterprises | Jun 23 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | No-frills networking appliance runs Linux on Apollo Lake | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:17 | |
| XRevan86 | https://hitech.newsru.com/article/23jun2017/dumavpn1 I don't even | Jun 23 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | "The State Duma approved the bill about forbidding VPN and anonymisers in first reading" | Jun 23 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hitech.newsru.com | ???? ???? ?????? ? ???? VPN ? ??????? ? ??? ???? | Jun 23 17:23 | |
| XRevan86 | > charset=windows-1251 | Jun 23 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | TechrightsBot-tr: You're really good at it. | Jun 23 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/kaddourkardio/status/878285761946275840 | Jun 23 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by University of #Missouri Adopts #OpenAccess | Jun 23 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @kaddourkardio https://t.co/amEccgdc2w (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | University of Missouri Adopts Open Access | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'No-frills networking appliance runs #Linux on Apollo Lake...' | Jun 23 17:26 | |
| schestowitz | Please help spread; | Jun 23 17:29 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2017/06/23/introduction-to-epo/ Primer to the Crisis and Scandals at the European Patent Office (EPO) | Jun 23 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Primer to the Crisis and Scandals at the European Patent Office (EPO) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/r1thq ] | Jun 23 17:29 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: the bot was developed by an old IRC member, Tony | Jun 23 17:29 |
| schestowitz | when he was a teen | Jun 23 17:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'No-frills networking appliance runs #Linux on Apollo Lake...' | Jun 23 17:35 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Does it have source code? | Jun 23 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878290541565358081 | Jun 23 17:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | That #OpenSUSE Tablet So Far Is A Dud | Jun 23 17:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vjXRlwlbho (www.tuxmachines.org) #suse #gnu | Jun 23 17:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 23 17:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | That OpenSUSE Tablet So Far Is A Dud | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'That #OpenSUSE Tablet So Far Is A Dud...' | Jun 23 17:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878291496524435456 | Jun 23 17:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/UKrUNyfDkd | Jun 23 17:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #androidO #sony #chromebook | Jun 23 17:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #samsung #vr #linux #google | Jun 23 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/UKrUNyfDkd #androidO #sony #chromebook #samsung ...' | Jun 23 17:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878292722427318272 | Jun 23 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Vulkan vs. #OpenGL With The #Radeon RX 470 On An Intel | Jun 23 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xeon | Jun 23 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mUd6eET2ol (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphics | Jun 23 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark #gnu #linux | Jun 23 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vulkan vs. OpenGL With The Radeon RX 470 On An Intel Xeon | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Vulkan vs. #OpenGL With The #Radeon RX 470...' | Jun 23 17:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Vulkan vs. #OpenGL With The #Radeon RX 470...' | Jun 23 17:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/878294697592053761 | Jun 23 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Android Leftovers https://t.co/UKrUNyfDkd | Jun 23 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) #androidO #sony #chromebook | Jun 23 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #samsung #vr #linux #google | Jun 23 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878295705764364288 | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The role of open source software in telecommunications | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nYPIrSDc73 (www.rcrwireless.com) #freesw | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rcrwireless.com | The role of open source software in telecommunications | Jun 23 17:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878296187580932098 | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.12 Ubuntu Benchmarks With AMD Ryzen, Intel | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kabylake - 12 Systems https://t.co/itHErc1SvM | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #benchmark #gnu #linux #benchmark | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.12 Ubuntu Benchmarks With AMD Ryzen, Intel Kabylake - 12 Systems | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The role of open source software in telecommunications...' | Jun 23 17:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.12 Ubuntu Benchmarks With AMD Ryzen, Intel...' | Jun 23 18:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ExponetUSA/status/878296593350479872 | Jun 23 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Vulkan vs. #OpenGL With The #Radeon RX 470 On An Intel | Jun 23 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Does it only show titles? | Jun 23 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ExponetUSA Xeon | Jun 23 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mUd6eET2ol (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphics | Jun 23 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark #gnu #linux | Jun 23 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vulkan vs. OpenGL With The Radeon RX 470 On An Intel Xeon | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:05 | |
| XRevan86 | https://newsru.com/russia/23jun2017/navalnycikrf.html Navalny has been excluded from the race. | Jun 23 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NEWSru.com :: ЦИК РФ поставил вне избирательного законодательства штабы Навального и его выдвижение кандидатом в президенты | Jun 23 18:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878299896293359616 | Jun 23 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tizen (Linux) and #Samsung | Jun 23 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4eEbFuUUUl (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizenos | Jun 23 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 23 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen (Linux) and Samsung | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:17 | |
| XRevan86 | How random, this page on newsru.com is with UTF-8 %). | Jun 23 18:21 |
| XRevan86 | or was he excluded? at least now the Central Election Commission says he can't | Jun 23 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | it's really confusing | Jun 23 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878300995737927680 | Jun 23 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Tizen (Linux) and #Samsung | Jun 23 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/4eEbFuUUUl (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizenos | Jun 23 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 23 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878304173640605696 | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #Machinarium , #SeriousSam 3 and More | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cfbMn6yVfM (www.tuxmachines.org) #gaming | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #games #gnu #linux | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Machinarium, Serious Sam 3 and More | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878305496201125889 | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics in Linux: Mesa, GPUOpen, RadeonSI, Vulkan and | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenGL | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Graphics in Linux: Mesa, GPUOpen, RadeonSI, Vulkan and...' | Jun 23 18:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878305548982145024 | Jun 23 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics in Linux: #Mesa, #GPUOpen, #RadeonSI, #Vulkan | Jun 23 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and #OpenGL | Jun 23 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rKtrRfY09l (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 23 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux: Mesa, GPUOpen, RadeonSI, Vulkan and OpenGL | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #Machinarium , #SeriousSam 3 and More ...' | Jun 23 18:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics in Linux: #Mesa, #GPUOpen, #RadeonSI, #Vulkan and...' | Jun 23 18:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ExponetUSA retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics in Linux: #Mesa, #GPUOpen, #RadeonSI, #Vulkan and...' | Jun 23 18:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics in Linux: #Mesa, #GPUOpen, #RadeonSI, #Vulkan and...' | Jun 23 18:49 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 23 18:49 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 23 18:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878308933017808896 | Jun 23 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rockstor: A Solid Cloud Storage Solution for Small or | Jun 23 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Home Office | Jun 23 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GqiuMiHmAd (www.tuxmachines.org) #Rockstor | Jun 23 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rockstor: A Solid Cloud Storage Solution for Small or Home Office | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:51 | |
| razielle_tzu | hi sebsebseb | Jun 23 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 23 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: mostly a good day yesterday | Jun 23 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: computer stuff with a woman in after from LUG at her flat | Jun 23 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: got her to come to my other group in evening to, but not really for her right now, but she came so that's good | Jun 23 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: pm me | Jun 23 19:02 |
| MinceR | http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/22/18/41A5922000000578-4629882-image-a-7_1498152486663.jpg | Jun 23 19:06 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/precious | Jun 23 19:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Precious | Jun 23 19:40 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/8IHemLd | Jun 23 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I don't believe it - Imgur | Jun 23 20:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878309607122366464 | Jun 23 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Rockstor: A Solid Cloud Storage Solution for Small or | Jun 23 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Home Office | Jun 23 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GqiuMiHmAd (www.tuxmachines.org) #Rockstor | Jun 23 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 20:31 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/lBVcb | Jun 23 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Married Life !!!! - Album on Imgur | Jun 23 20:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878336924485914624 | Jun 23 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jonathan Riddell Releases #ISOImageWriter | Jun 23 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/etJ9ViF5r7 (www.tuxmachines.org) @jriddell | Jun 23 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kde #neon #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 23 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 20:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Jonathan Riddell Releases ISO Image Writer | Tux Machines | Jun 23 20:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Jonathan Riddell Releases #ISOImageWriter https://t.co/etJ9ViF5r7 @jriddell #kde #neon...' | Jun 23 20:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#Canonical Also Patches #Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Against the...' | Jun 23 20:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Jonathan Riddell Releases #ISOImageWriter https://t.co/etJ9ViF5r7 @jriddell #kde #neon...' | Jun 23 20:47 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/a-frankenstein | Jun 23 20:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - A Frankenstein [ http://ur1.ca/r1uoi ] | Jun 23 20:56 | |
| MinceR | http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-no-known-ransomware-windows-we-tried-to-hack-it/ | Jun 23 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft says 'no known ransomware' runs on Windows 10 S — so we tried to hack it | ZDNet | Jun 23 21:08 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~XRevan86@188.243.245.19) has left #techrights | Jun 23 21:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | I found another bug. | Jun 23 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1464599 | Jun 23 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1464599 – Browsers that use WebkitGTK play some videos with severe distortion if using VA-API. | Jun 23 22:32 | |
| schestowitz | meh | Jun 23 22:34 |
| schestowitz | it's full of it | Jun 23 22:34 |
| schestowitz | I moved away | Jun 23 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They issued a fix for one of the WebkitGTK+ bugs I reported. | Jun 23 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | The one where it caused the entire Gnome Web browser to crash when trying to save images from discogs.com | Jun 23 22:35 |
| schestowitz | sounds pretty severe | Jun 23 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I've reported two bugs in Gnome Web itself and two in WebkitGTK+ in Fedora 26. | Jun 23 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | And working on a third one for Gnome Web. | Jun 23 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It's got problems. | Jun 23 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Well, any time you can reliably crash a program like a web browser, it's bad. | Jun 23 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Possible exploit. | Jun 23 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I've reported a ton of bugs so far, although I should probably send some upstream as well. | Jun 23 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Since I reported them to Fedora already, it should be copy and paste. | Jun 23 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Easytag corrupting vorbis comment on Ogg Vorbis files is a pretty nasty one. | Jun 23 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | It corrupts them in such a way that some of the audio data is occasionally corrupted and there's no way to fix the file after that. | Jun 23 22:43 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/Ch6m4 | Jun 23 22:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meanwhile at the grocery - Album on Imgur | Jun 23 22:45 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I can see why distributions tend not to install Gnome Web. | Jun 23 22:48 |
| MinceR | strange | Jun 23 22:48 |
| MinceR | most distros like crap | Jun 23 22:48 |
| schestowitz | systemd-web | Jun 23 22:49 |
| schestowitz | coming soon | Jun 23 22:49 |
| schestowitz | after LP's latest project | Jun 23 22:49 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 23 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Gnome is becoming an extension of systemd into the desktop. | Jun 23 22:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 23 22:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878370659792900096 | Jun 23 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 2.11 is Released | Jun 23 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IxycdSX4kl (www.tuxmachines.org) #wine #gnu | Jun 23 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #unix | Jun 23 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 2.11 is Released | Tux Machines | Jun 23 22:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 22:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Wine 2.11 is Released https://t.co/IxycdSX4kl #wine #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 22:56 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it just hasn't been gnomed yet | Jun 23 22:58 |
| schestowitz | dbus | Jun 23 22:58 |
| schestowitz | gtkd | Jun 23 22:58 |
| schestowitz | mutted | Jun 23 22:59 |
| schestowitz | evolutioned | Jun 23 22:59 |
| schestowitz | it ain't done until systemd will run | Jun 23 23:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=System76-Ubuntu-Update | Jun 23 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-System76 Continues Working On GNOME Improvements For Future Ubuntu - Phoronix | Jun 23 23:00 | |
| schestowitz | just now.. | Jun 23 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM-Vt87W3_A | Jun 23 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Like Humans Do - David Byrne - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r1v7f ] | Jun 23 23:00 | |
| DaemonFC | That was the track Microsoft included in Windows XP, but they removed the part about being stoned. | Jun 23 23:01 |
| MinceR | drugs are bad, m'kay? | Jun 23 23:01 |
| schestowitz | ballmer got pelted with eggs, close enough... | Jun 23 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Re Ubuntu, it's turning into Windows more or less. | Jun 23 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | Nasty EULA, have to sign in to Ubuntu One to download Snaps, etc. | Jun 23 23:02 |
| MinceR | and the morons love it | Jun 23 23:02 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Wine 2.11 is Released https://t.co/IxycdSX4kl #wine #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 23:18 | |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: MinceR schestowitz had to sign in to ubuntu one to donwnload apps onto ubuntu phone or tablet | Jun 23 23:19 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: MinceR schestowitz having an offial snaps store that requires that, so what? | Jun 23 23:19 |
| MinceR | so it's a walled garden as well? | Jun 23 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878376688521928705 | Jun 23 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing | Jun 23 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "498 out of 500 supercomputers were running Linux." | Jun 23 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hpc | Jun 23 23:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux owns supercomputing | Tux Machines | Jun 23 23:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 23:20 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Correct. | Jun 23 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Snaps are: Bloated, centralized, and not widely supported. | Jun 23 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Flatpak is supported by multiple distros, including Ubuntu, out of the box, it is decentralized, and Flatpaks are smallish. | Jun 23 23:21 |
| MinceR | so how well do flatpaks work on a non-cancerous distro? | Jun 23 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | In some cases, Snaps are ten times the size of the same software in a Flatpak. | Jun 23 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They don't require systemd at all if that's what you mean. | Jun 23 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | they have made snaps samller | Jun 23 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | i read | Jun 23 23:22 |
| MinceR | so what do they require? | Jun 23 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | Earlier versions needed it to setup cgroups, but that's no longer true. | Jun 23 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Pretty much just the flatpak software afaik. | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | you can live in the past with | Jun 23 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | They don't need Gnome or systemd at all. | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | with init | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | xorg | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | etc | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | but the world wil move on of linux | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | to system d :D | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | and wayland and maybe btfs | Jun 23 23:24 |
| MinceR | sucks to be the world, then | Jun 23 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | btrfs is going nowhere. | Jun 23 23:24 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 23 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | well not maby distros have it by default | Jun 23 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | did suse do it i think ? | Jun 23 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | Most distros _support_ but do not default to btrfs. | Jun 23 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | jolla had or had by default for salifsh os | Jun 23 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | yep its so debatey | Jun 23 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's not really in a state where you'd want to use it. | Jun 23 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | why its not default yet | Jun 23 23:25 |
| MinceR | btrfs is in mainline Linux | Jun 23 23:25 |
| MinceR | but it's unreliable, afaik | Jun 23 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's very slow. | Jun 23 23:25 |
| MinceR | i tried it once, when i really needed block checksumming | Jun 23 23:25 |
| MinceR | and it died pretty quickly | Jun 23 23:25 |
| cubexyz | tons of people don't like systemd | Jun 23 23:25 |
| MinceR | i ended up relying on git for checking bit rot instead | Jun 23 23:26 |
| cubexyz | not to mention the BSDs and other alternatives | Jun 23 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | mir is nearly dead | Jun 23 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | for the time being ubports will still have to support, but that is transiting to wayland will be | Jun 23 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | and not sure about the yunit unity 8 fork, but possibly | Jun 23 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: BSD is not that reivent anymore, except for people like you | Jun 23 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | Linux Linux Linux is what its about | Jun 23 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | well | Jun 23 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | Windows kind of, Mincer 's beloved Mac OS X, and then Linux | Jun 23 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | market share wise yes | Jun 23 23:29 |
| cubexyz | Mincer doesn't use Mac, he hates apple | Jun 23 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | he loves Apple | Jun 23 23:30 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb knows that, he's just trolling | Jun 23 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | secretly, but alwasy denys it | Jun 23 23:30 |
| MinceR | i'm curious about how well the bsd-s support my new laptop | Jun 23 23:31 |
| MinceR | i suspect they won't :> | Jun 23 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | well there we go then | Jun 23 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | bsd even less relivent | Jun 23 23:31 |
| cubexyz | chromeos is the other obvious alternative | Jun 23 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | won't run on cerina new modern hardware | Jun 23 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: to what desktop linux? | Jun 23 23:31 |
| MinceR | the only good thing about chromeos is its firmware :> | Jun 23 23:31 |
| cubexyz | chromeos + crouton | Jun 23 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: Chrome OS is an altternaive to what desktop linux? | Jun 23 23:31 |
| MinceR | enable developer mode, boot a real OS | Jun 23 23:32 |
| cubexyz | sure, it can be | Jun 23 23:32 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: chromeos is sufficient for the needs of most lusers | Jun 23 23:32 |
| MinceR | especially now that it can run android apps too | Jun 23 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: losers? | Jun 23 23:32 |
| MinceR | lusers | Jun 23 23:32 |
| cubexyz | but I use chromeos with crouton which is basically chromeos with linux running inside it | Jun 23 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | whats lusers? | Jun 23 23:32 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/L/luser.html | Jun 23 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catb.org | luser | Jun 23 23:32 | |
| cubexyz | plus in the future it will be chromeos + linuxx + android all in one | Jun 23 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | Google can cater for the basic needs etc sure, and that's with both android and chormeos in this context, but there have been more interesitng altenaries | Jun 23 23:33 |
| sebsebseb | alough for mobile the only one that has a chance now it seems at going more main strmeae with commerical devices is salifsh os hmm | Jun 23 23:33 |
| *sebsebseb waits for the annoucment the proper one of the sony xpeira x it seems, with that hopefully pre loaded, not just a rom for it | Jun 23 23:33 | |
| cubexyz | btw openbsd was my 2nd most reliable OS after FC1 | Jun 23 23:33 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 23 23:33 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: to which ? | Jun 23 23:34 |
| MinceR | i guess you didn't do much package management, then | Jun 23 23:34 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: ratcrap garbage | Jun 23 23:34 |
| sebsebseb | uh | Jun 23 23:34 |
| MinceR | with their shitty excuse for a package manager | Jun 23 23:34 |
| sebsebseb | who? | Jun 23 23:34 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d "498 out...' | Jun 23 23:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux owns supercomputing | Tux Machines | Jun 23 23:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CerebralMisjif favourited '#GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d "498 out...' | Jun 23 23:34 | |
| MinceR | whatever-it-is-this-week/RPM | Jun 23 23:34 |
| cubexyz | there's no package manager with FC1 nowadays :) | Jun 23 23:34 |
| cubexyz | you know I'm Mr. Tarball | Jun 23 23:34 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 23 23:35 |
| MinceR | slackware was made for you | Jun 23 23:35 |
| cubexyz | I did eventually gravitate towards slack | Jun 23 23:35 |
| MinceR | i hardly had a choice | Jun 23 23:36 |
| MinceR | devuan refused to make any of the network interfaces on my new laptop work | Jun 23 23:36 |
| MinceR | trying to upgrade the kernel via backports resulted in broken x | Jun 23 23:36 |
| cubexyz | you're using slack on your laptop? | Jun 23 23:36 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 23 23:36 |
| MinceR | and it all just worked in slackware -current | Jun 23 23:36 |
| cubexyz | welcome to the club then :) | Jun 23 23:36 |
| MinceR | plus APT doesn't get to annoy me with shit like "but it is not going to be installed" | Jun 23 23:37 |
| MinceR | thanks | Jun 23 23:37 |
| MinceR | APT gets cryptic as hell the moment i stray off the beaten path | Jun 23 23:37 |
| cubexyz | you might like vector when they bring out their next version which should be soon | Jun 23 23:37 |
| MinceR | i'm not really fond of paying for my OS | Jun 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/CerebralMisjif/status/878380767751045120 | Jun 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing | Jun 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @CerebralMisjif https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "498 out of 500 supercomputers were running Linux." | Jun 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hpc | Jun 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 23:38 | |
| sebsebseb | does vecoter still sti? | Jun 23 23:38 |
| sebsebseb | sell | Jun 23 23:38 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 23 23:38 |
| MinceR | they tried the last time i cared | Jun 23 23:38 |
| cubexyz | well, the vector folks ask for support, you can still download the ISOs for free | Jun 23 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I saw an advertisement for a university here in Chicago. | Jun 23 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: one euro fo the hungarian wall os :d with a statue on top of the logo for it, of mincer trying to leave? | Jun 23 23:39 |
| cubexyz | I still run a couple of vector boxes | Jun 23 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Their ad was 14 lines of Java code. It asked "Are you up for the challenge?". | Jun 23 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878381727978319873 | Jun 23 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wine 2.11 is Released | Jun 23 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://t.co/IxycdSX4kl (www.tuxmachines.org) #wine #gnu | Jun 23 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #unix | Jun 23 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 23:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 2.11 is Released | Tux Machines | Jun 23 23:39 | |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i don't understand | Jun 23 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | I emailed them and said "Yeah, that's one line in Perl.". | Jun 23 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: it happens to be a Linux distro, that doesn't do much, without systemd, but yes that | Jun 23 23:39 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Jun 23 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: you would pay :D | Jun 23 23:39 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: you're mistaken | Jun 23 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | its worth one euro | Jun 23 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | :D | Jun 23 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | that is all | Jun 23 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: espeically dedicated to you, systemd haters, and people who want to potentially leave hungary :d | Jun 23 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | one euro is all it costs | Jun 23 23:41 |
| cubexyz | hungary is good, they invented the cube :) | Jun 23 23:41 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions#Slackware-based | Jun 23 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of Linux distributions - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r1vcs ] | Jun 23 23:42 | |
| sebsebseb | the cube | Jun 23 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | ? | Jun 23 23:42 |
| cubexyz | rubik's cube | Jun 23 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Jun 23 23:43 |
| sebsebseb | didnt know that | Jun 23 23:43 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: pretty small set | Jun 23 23:43 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Jun 23 23:43 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: they also destroyed the freedom that fell in their lap | Jun 23 23:43 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Jun 23 23:44 |
| cubexyz | as I've said before, I should have got into BSD as far back as 1995 | Jun 23 23:46 |
| cubexyz | perhaps even 1993 | Jun 23 23:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so how well do flatpaks work on a non-cancerous distro? << Down right perfectly flatpaks are even designed to use a non container solution if kernel does not have cgroups | Jun 23 23:46 |
| cubexyz | 1993 was a very significant year for operating systems | Jun 23 23:47 |
| cubexyz | Slackware 1.0 and FreeBSD 1.0 came out in 1993 | Jun 23 23:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/wiki/Sandbox Of course you nave never bothered check how flatpak works instead think that think it something out of redhat that it has to be some form of domination project. | Jun 23 23:48 |
| sebsebseb | and windows 3.1? | Jun 23 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sandbox · flatpak/flatpak Wiki · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/r1vdr ] | Jun 23 23:48 | |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: and windows 3.1 ? | Jun 23 23:48 |
| cubexyz | windows 3.1 was launched in april 1992, but yes it was around that time | Jun 23 23:48 |
| MinceR | could someone hit snooze on the redhat shill? | Jun 23 23:49 |
| cubexyz | also Minix 1.5 was released in 1991, but I had a lot of trouble with it | Jun 23 23:49 |
| cubexyz | I wasn't as patient back then | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | then this android thing came out | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | about 20 years later | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | fast forward about 7 years | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | or so | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | and | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | or five | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | or so | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | and | Jun 23 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | Commander Frosted Flakes says: | Jun 23 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | (Change) | Jun 23 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, they'll fire the cashiers and pass the savings onto you in the form of $10 for a burger and some fries that were under the heat lamp too long. :) | Jun 23 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | The quality of McDonalds is garbage and making the experience even more miserable and expensive isn't working out for them, but you dangle "kiosks" over Wall Street and they jump on it like a dog in heat. | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | and Windows has lost most of its market share too it | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | to andorid | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly | Jun 23 23:50 |
| cubexyz | android was much later on | Jun 23 23:50 |
| cubexyz | that's 2008 | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: the McDonalds here have two reasosanble veggie burgers | Jun 23 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: even get a nice little cucumber on it | Jun 23 23:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no could the person who cannot do there research before comenting spend sometime doing research then I would not have to be correcting errors. | Jun 23 23:51 |
| MinceR | veggie burger with double meat? :> | Jun 23 23:51 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @kfalconspb favourited '#GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d "498 out...' | Jun 23 23:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Traduced favourited '#GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d "498 out...' | Jun 23 23:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux owns supercomputing | Tux Machines | Jun 23 23:51 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: your corporate whore act is boring | Jun 23 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: however I am a bit hmm going to McDonalds s, bnow as someone wo went veggie for un sure about certina things reasons and ethics but yes someitmes such as syesterday | Jun 23 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: nope no meat | Jun 23 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXhJPey3i_A | Jun 23 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ron Swanson on Vegan Bacon - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r1ve9 ] | Jun 23 23:52 | |
| cubexyz | ok, I'm here to give good advice :) | Jun 23 23:52 |
| cubexyz | learn to cook | Jun 23 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: altough might have been cooked in something that was used for meat hmm, but I hope not | Jun 23 23:52 |
| MinceR | "once you were a vegan, but soon you will be gone." | Jun 23 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: vegan bacon is quite good for what it is too | Jun 23 23:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I am not employed by redhat. I am not paid them. My main job validation of stuff this is know it history of who did what and when. | Jun 23 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: can tast better than real bacon | Jun 23 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | meat eaters may say that even if trying | Jun 23 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: vegetarian not vegan | Jun 23 23:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 23 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | vegan is like | Jun 23 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | well | Jun 23 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | welll it's a life style etc as well, but | Jun 23 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | its a bit like richard stallman or can be :d the extreame end of things | Jun 23 23:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and a lot of what you say is not aligning with what has happen in the history of the project or what the project are doing. | Jun 23 23:53 |
| cubexyz | vegans can still eat nuts/legumes I assume? | Jun 23 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | no honey for vegans though | Jun 23 23:54 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNqSGolI_N8 | Jun 23 23:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scott Pilgrim vs. The World - You were sort of Vegan, but now you will begone - YouTube | Jun 23 23:54 | |
| *sebsebseb likes honey here anad there | Jun 23 23:54 | |
| sebsebseb | not seen either of htose videos | Jun 23 23:54 |
| cubexyz | too strict for me then | Jun 23 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | yet or whatever | Jun 23 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: vegan is like the extmre end compare it to sofwtare | Jun 23 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: doing vegan properly, would be a bit like running richards free software only lap top :d | Jun 23 23:54 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: what is rms at the extreme end of? giving up his principles for red hat's money? | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | richard stallmans | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: of software | Jun 23 23:55 |
| MinceR | that makes no sense | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | no won't go on websites since it rusn popritary software | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly he will now | Jun 23 23:55 |
| MinceR | what's extreme about "software"? | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | no won't run something or hte other that makes the hardware actsaully work better | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | since closed | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | etc | Jun 23 23:55 |
| cubexyz | it's logical to use proprietary software when necessary | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | most Linux users give up there freedoms for the propritary drivers if they got hardware for htat | Jun 23 23:55 |
| cubexyz | no point in being pedantic about it | Jun 23 23:56 |
| MinceR | and the consequences will be "logical" as well :> | Jun 23 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | with reason or reason enough it makes sense to use propritary software | Jun 23 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | oh and if your into gaming for example well | Jun 23 23:56 |
| cubexyz | using win10 is still out of the question though | Jun 23 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | yes there are some good open source games or more, but most games are closed | Jun 23 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tch4v0L0GHA | Jun 23 23:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Best Of Ron Swanson (Parks and Recreation) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r1ves ] | Jun 23 23:56 | |
| MinceR | wait till m$ buys redhat | Jun 23 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | even running windows at times there can be valid enough reason | Jun 23 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | but I usaully don't | Jun 23 23:56 |
| cubexyz | no way the DOJ would allow that MinceR | Jun 23 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | since its a awful os, how it works etc, all the re booting etc | Jun 23 23:57 |
| cubexyz | but under Trump I wonder | Jun 23 23:57 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: since when did they care about the laws? | Jun 23 23:57 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: they never enforce laws against monopoly abuse | Jun 23 23:57 |
| MinceR | they're corrupt, rotten to the core | Jun 23 23:57 |
| MinceR | and this isn't going to be fixed either, since the majority of the human species is the same | Jun 23 23:58 |
| MinceR | fearing freedom, forcing oppression on everyone they can, including themselves | Jun 23 23:58 |
| cubexyz | Janet Reno did bring Microsoft to task for violations of the sherman antitrust act | Jun 23 23:58 |
| MinceR | it's thoroughly sick | Jun 23 23:58 |
| MinceR | and it will have a painful end | Jun 23 23:58 |
| cubexyz | just the end result was poor | Jun 23 23:59 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: so, what happened? | Jun 23 23:59 |
| MinceR | see, nothing happened | Jun 23 23:59 |
| MinceR | m$ has become the gatekeeper of the x86 ISA via UEFI and Restricted Boot | Jun 23 23:59 |
| MinceR | and nobody bats an eye | Jun 23 23:59 |
| cubexyz | it was settled _after_ Reno left the DOJ | Jun 23 23:59 |
| MinceR | they force botnet malware on people buying PCs using Restricted Boot and Backdoors10 | Jun 23 23:59 |
| MinceR | and still nobody bats an eye | Jun 23 23:59 |
| MinceR | much of human society and technology relies on IT, which is being destroyed from under our feet | Jun 24 00:00 |
| cubexyz | remember we still have coreboot, and I use it every day | Jun 24 00:00 |
| MinceR | i wonder for how long are we going to have it | Jun 24 00:01 |
| cubexyz | it's not all just the M$ show | Jun 24 00:01 |
| MinceR | yeah, there's also crApple | Jun 24 00:01 |
| MinceR | who made DRM and closed platforms acceptable | Jun 24 00:01 |
| MinceR | even popular | Jun 24 00:01 |
| MinceR | and there's the global wave of fascism, religious fundamentalism and anti-intellectualism | Jun 24 00:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is no gain to Microsoft to buy redhat. Why redhat only does about 10 percent of development work on their distribution. That is one of the things you miss. Redhat is very careful to make sure developers from companies and other distributions can submit patches to the code they have. | Jun 24 00:02 |
| MinceR | i even hear people bringing up SuperFish but not minding Backdoors10 | Jun 24 00:03 |
| cubexyz | which laptop are you using again? | Jun 24 00:03 |
| oiaohm | Also there was a very big fight over uefi to get the PK as controlled by the owner of machine. | Jun 24 00:03 |
| MinceR | i got a Lenovo ThinkPad X270 | Jun 24 00:04 |
| MinceR | if it's abusive, you can be sure oiaohm will tirelessly advertise it here | Jun 24 00:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no an advertiser | Jun 24 00:05 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if coreboot would work on that | Jun 24 00:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: where are you get this wrong idea. | Jun 24 00:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really someone has to be shill of they have a different idea to you???? | Jun 24 00:05 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: afaik intel boot guard blocks it | Jun 24 00:05 |
| MinceR | can't have competition in IT, after all | Jun 24 00:05 |
| cubexyz | Lenovo doesn't fill me with confidence :-/ | Jun 24 00:06 |
| MinceR | IT is just too important for our self-styled corporate overlords to leave any control to users over | Jun 24 00:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there was quite a dispute from companies over Microsoft being the gatekeeper. Resulting in PK and KEK set changeable. | Jun 24 00:06 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: i wouldn't trust their non-ThinkPad products at all | Jun 24 00:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: the whole point of uefi was to wrest control from users after what ended up being Treacherous Computing didn't do it | Jun 24 00:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yet here you are, defending the indefensible | Jun 24 00:07 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, at least you can boot into slack | Jun 24 00:07 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 24 00:07 |
| MinceR | this laptop supports legacy boot | Jun 24 00:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: bootguard makes OEM the firmware gate keeper. For companies like google or custom order boards they get the Private key to the bootguard. | Jun 24 00:07 |
| MinceR | it wasn't too difficult to enable it | Jun 24 00:07 |
| cubexyz | I'm thinking about getting a chromebox with a big SSD | Jun 24 00:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: uefi design was not to wrest control from users. That is how Microsoft attempted to take it. The design was to protect against boot attack. | Jun 24 00:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and you eat up all the ads and all the propaganda and believe every letter of it | Jun 24 00:09 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: let me guess, you also believe that the TPM is not there to help enforce DRM | Jun 24 00:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the first documentation is that the PK was always ment to be controlled by the owner of the machine that you never read. | Jun 24 00:09 |
| cubexyz | the M004U doesn't look bad | Jun 24 00:09 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i don't care about the marketing | Jun 24 00:09 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: did you also believe m$ when they said the current version of winblows is perfectly secure? | Jun 24 00:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is not marketing the first implementations of UEFI had end users in control. | Jun 24 00:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: first implementation to not was in Microsoft Windows RT hardware. | Jun 24 00:10 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, we can't trust Intel | Jun 24 00:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so this is not marketing this is purely Microsoft as normal abusing standards | Jun 24 00:11 |
| MinceR | oh, he trusts intel without question | Jun 24 00:11 |
| cubexyz | Intel ME and all that secret stuff... | Jun 24 00:11 |
| MinceR | the words are so nice on the brochures! | Jun 24 00:11 |
| MinceR | critical thinking, what's that? | Jun 24 00:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: boot guard and ME I take issue with Intel. | Jun 24 00:11 |
| oiaohm | I don't 100 percent like Intel. | Jun 24 00:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: good for you | Jun 24 00:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and presumably your cognitive dissonance keeps you from realizing that uefi forces 100% m$ formats on users | Jun 24 00:11 |
| oiaohm | Something like UEFI if always implemented by spec are only annoying things to get past to end users. | Jun 24 00:12 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't be surprised at all if it was found out that TianoCore was written by people from m$ | Jun 24 00:12 |
| cubexyz | you got to have legacy boot or whatever it's called | Jun 24 00:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, i grabbed a laptop before they get rid of legacy boot | Jun 24 00:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Intel with PE and Fat in UEFI if you read the mailing list that was if Intel did not do that Microsoft would not support EFI (before the U bit). | Jun 24 00:13 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: see, m$ pulls the strings | Jun 24 00:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: intel demarded patent free on that usage. | Jun 24 00:13 |
| MinceR | ah yes, patents | Jun 24 00:14 |
| MinceR | yet another fascistic racket | Jun 24 00:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: microsoft argued for 12 months to attempt to avoid that. | Jun 24 00:14 |
| MinceR | and so you believe that patents were the only issue with it | Jun 24 00:14 |
| MinceR | not the fact that m$ still controls the "technology" or the fact that it's crap | Jun 24 00:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it gets worse PE used by EFI have requirements that make them incompatible with Microsoft standard compilers. | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | "standard" | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | there's no such thing as "microsoft standard" | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | even the "standard" they wrote and bribed iso to rubberstamp, they don't obey themselves | Jun 24 00:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: PE has a spec Intel extended it. | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | "microsoft standard" is a joke | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | ooh, intel extended it | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | who cares? | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | there are sprinkles on this turd! | Jun 24 00:16 |
| MinceR | guess what, it still stinks the same. | Jun 24 00:16 |
| cubexyz | you can't polish a turd :) | Jun 24 00:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "498 out of 500 supercomputers were running Linux." | Jun 24 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hpc | Jun 24 00:16 |
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| MinceR | well, you can, but the result won't be pleasing | Jun 24 00:16 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: over EFI Microsoft and Intel have not been getting along. So EFI has end up a set of compromises. | Jun 24 00:31 |
| MinceR | by the looks of it, compromises between two equally horrible and evil alternatives | Jun 24 00:32 |
| MinceR | http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/10014.html | Jun 24 00:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also history is import. Boot guard by intel is not by intel. Via implemented in their x86 cpu in 1995 a optional boot guard. Intel waited until the patent expired. | Jun 24 00:32 |
| MinceR | >The fundamental problem is that UEFI is a lot of code. And I really do mean a lot of code. Ignoring drivers, the x86 Linux kernel is around 30MB of code. A comparable subset of the UEFI tree is around 35MB. UEFI is of a comparable degree of complexity to the Linux kernel. | Jun 24 00:32 |
| MinceR | just to boot the damn computer | Jun 24 00:32 |
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| oiaohm | I really do back the right to repair laws. | Jun 24 00:32 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: via doesn't have the market power to force this sort of shit to be accepted | Jun 24 00:33 |
| cubexyz | sorry but I must have the ability to boot into the OS of my choice, otherwise no deal | Jun 24 00:33 |
| MinceR | also, people were not as clueless and self-harming in 1995 as they are now | Jun 24 00:33 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: this is the part where oiaohm will call you a greybeard | Jun 24 00:33 |
| cubexyz | ha, people were clueless in 1995 as well... | Jun 24 00:34 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: Via got some of it market share by providing boot-guard features. | Jun 24 00:34 |
| cubexyz | "start me up" | Jun 24 00:34 |
| cubexyz | win95? | Jun 24 00:34 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: how could you possibly know better than poettering and nadella what you want to do with your own computer? | Jun 24 00:34 |
| oiaohm | Lot of this stuff we have had 20 years + warning that it coming. | Jun 24 00:34 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: people were wary of malware in 1995 | Jun 24 00:34 |
| cubexyz | lining up to buy win95 in droves... and some of them had computers that couldn't even run windows 95? :) | Jun 24 00:34 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: now they buy Backdoors10 | Jun 24 00:34 |
| cubexyz | people are a bit _less_ clueless now | Jun 24 00:35 |
| cubexyz | and we don't usually see winprinters and winscanners and winmodems | Jun 24 00:35 |
| MinceR | people wouldn't have considered the inability to pick your own programs to run on a mobile device (phone, pda, whatever) in 1995 | Jun 24 00:35 |
| MinceR | nowadays they line up to buy hypePhones | Jun 24 00:36 |
| MinceR | we see winpcs now | Jun 24 00:36 |
| MinceR | not just uefi | Jun 24 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173796 | Jun 24 00:36 |
| cubexyz | that's true | Jun 24 00:36 |
| MinceR | we also have winblows tablets with a 32bit uefi implementation that was written specifically to screw with users who wanted to boot a real OS on them | Jun 24 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | I filed a bug upstream on Webkit. | Jun 24 00:36 |
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| cubexyz | we have to be vigilant about that | Jun 24 00:37 |
| MinceR | i was hoping for a screenshot | Jun 24 00:37 |
| oiaohm | ME is really SMM take to the next level. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Mode | Jun 24 00:37 |
| MinceR | though i guess the distortions may not necessarily show up on a screenshot | Jun 24 00:37 |
| MinceR | yes, and there's also TC and Restricted Boot | Jun 24 00:37 |
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| cubexyz | the idea of OS freedom in 1995 wasn't as highly developed as it is now | Jun 24 00:37 |
| cubexyz | you bought an amiga you got amigados, you bought an atari etc etc | Jun 24 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878395784001204224 | Jun 24 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: Open Source Summit 2017, #DebConf17, #ProgressBar | Jun 24 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #HackerSpace, #Nodejs Foundation | Jun 24 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TAH6nhwOVu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 00:38 |
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| MinceR | os/2 warp was on sale in 1995 | Jun 24 00:38 |
| oiaohm | 1995 have the SMM mode alter memory of your OS because it was expecting windows and watch your anything bar windows OS die. | Jun 24 00:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878396833046945792 | Jun 24 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS and Sharing #Leftovers | Jun 24 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/idm6rDxExg (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 24 00:38 |
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| MinceR | there were several different "dos"es available also | Jun 24 00:39 |
| cubexyz | yes, I sold OS/2 warp or at least tried to | Jun 24 00:39 |
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| cubexyz | I think I sold one copy | Jun 24 00:39 |
| MinceR | also, maybe os freedom wasn't as highly developed | Jun 24 00:39 |
| MinceR | but it definitely is in decline now | Jun 24 00:39 |
| MinceR | IT is past its best years and so are humans | Jun 24 00:40 |
| cubexyz | there was also BeOS and Minix and a few other ones back then | Jun 24 00:40 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 24 00:41 |
| oiaohm | OS/2 warp is a demo of how zombie a OS can be https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos-5-0-now-available/ | Jun 24 00:41 |
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| cubexyz | and... | Jun 24 00:42 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/freebsd-1995.jpeg | Jun 24 00:42 |
| cubexyz | some ISPs were using that | Jun 24 00:42 |
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| MinceR | "I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I deserve it." -- Jean-Louis Gassée | Jun 24 00:44 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jun 24 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | I was going to report the "some sites render and then disappear" bug in GTKWebkit, but the guy from Red Hat already forwarded my bug report upstream. | Jun 24 00:44 |
| MinceR | and as you can see, even with redhat, peaceful coexistence is impossible. | Jun 24 00:44 |
| oiaohm | Really OS freedom was never that well developed. Cost of OS development is a big problem. | Jun 24 00:44 |
| MinceR | the community solved that problem | Jun 24 00:44 |
| cubexyz | Bell Labs did have it back in... uh... 1975 | Jun 24 00:45 |
| cubexyz | before the licensing rules took over | Jun 24 00:45 |
| cubexyz | many Universities were sharing Unix v6 with each other | Jun 24 00:45 |
| cubexyz | the thing was, you had to have a minicomputer like a PDP-11 | Jun 24 00:46 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: even then different Universities did variations and argued with each other what was right. | Jun 24 00:46 |
| MinceR | well, of course, computers were more expensive back then | Jun 24 00:46 |
| oiaohm | Peace has not existed in OS development for a very long time | Jun 24 00:47 |
| cubexyz | you could buy a Heathkit H-11A though | Jun 24 00:47 |
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| oiaohm | Temporary cease fires yes but never true peace. | Jun 24 00:47 |
| MinceR | looks like people who want to live in a free society will have to fight for their right to own and use general purpose computers | Jun 24 00:47 |
| cubexyz | that was back in 1977, back then I had very little money | Jun 24 00:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the right to repair fight should have been done a long time ago. | Jun 24 00:48 |
| cubexyz | but it was quasi-affordable | Jun 24 00:48 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, back when we had a chance of winning it | Jun 24 00:48 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the mess we are in now is because right to repair is not in law. | Jun 24 00:48 |
| MinceR | then again, the crApple cult would have made it acceptable to end it anyway | Jun 24 00:48 |
| cubexyz | we did kind of win... chromebooks + chromeboxes | Jun 24 00:48 |
| MinceR | never underestimate human stupidity | Jun 24 00:48 |
| cubexyz | that KOes Microsoft | Jun 24 00:49 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: with max 64GB non-replaceable SSD? i kind of want something better. | Jun 24 00:49 |
| cubexyz | you can upgrade the M004U with a big SSD | Jun 24 00:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember early hard drives you could get the source code to the firmware driving the drive. | Jun 24 00:49 |
| cubexyz | you just have to be careful on the model | Jun 24 00:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: greed starts coming in and firmware starts disappearing before Microsoft turns up. | Jun 24 00:50 |
| MinceR | i wonder what happened to standards | Jun 24 00:50 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, remind me which ones | Jun 24 00:50 |
| cubexyz | also of course PDP-11s some didn't even have firmware | Jun 24 00:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the controllers on the harddrives of the PDP were open. Because making the hardware was classed that hard that no one would. | Jun 24 00:51 |
| MinceR | well, for now, we have access to FPGAs | Jun 24 00:51 |
| MinceR | i wonder for how lon | Jun 24 00:51 |
| MinceR | g | Jun 24 00:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not all FPGA can be recoded from first generation because some have fuseable links signing key. | Jun 24 00:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878399157727318016 | Jun 24 00:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat and #Fedora Leftovers | Jun 24 00:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/I6b3s3Y2qr (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 24 00:52 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: this is right to repair issue again. | Jun 24 00:52 |
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| cubexyz | well, try to fix an IBM 1130 and you get that problem again | Jun 24 00:53 |
| cubexyz | once you can't get parts it's game over | Jun 24 00:53 |
| oiaohm | The most modern joke case is the F22 usa most advanced designed fighter. USA cannot make more because they cannot make the avionics. | Jun 24 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878400390731051008 | Jun 24 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 24 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3s9ZQk1PGP (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 24 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #linux #gnu | Jun 24 00:54 |
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| oiaohm | So the USA mil orders a fighter aircraft without proper right to repair. | Jun 24 00:54 |
| cubexyz | probably the most easy to make computer from parts is a z80 based one | Jun 24 00:54 |
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| MinceR | well, now they have a train wreck of a project | Jun 24 00:55 |
| MinceR | F-35 | Jun 24 00:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you mean the F35 joint strike? | Jun 24 00:55 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 24 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173799 | Jun 24 00:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #Witcher2 & #RocketLeague, Ashes of the | Jun 24 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Singularity and More | Jun 24 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Dwe1s75sF0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu | Jun 24 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 24 00:56 |
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| oiaohm | At least it mandated open source and open hardware avionics to all parties buying the aircraft. So the F35 is not quite as bad as the F22. | Jun 24 00:56 |
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| MinceR | :> | Jun 24 00:57 |
| MinceR | not sure if it will ever fly, though | Jun 24 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Instead of running on jet fuel, it runs on pallets of $100 bills. | Jun 24 00:58 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 24 00:58 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is a reason why F22 don't land of aircraft carriers. Because if they have a issue they can be come stuck on the aircraft carrier. | Jun 24 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | The federal government doesn't care, MinceR | Jun 24 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | They can always tax us more, or inflate the money to cover their spending. | Jun 24 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | Other governments are forced to by USD that they don't want to maintain their own currency pegs, to buy oil, and for other reasons. | Jun 24 00:59 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they will once they won't have any air force to defend their asses from the enemies they've made :> | Jun 24 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Do camels fly yet? | Jun 24 01:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Sell them the old stuff, use the new stuff on them. | Jun 24 01:01 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jun 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | assuming they'll have new stuff | Jun 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | or that they'll be able to manufacture/maintain the old | Jun 24 01:03 |
| oiaohm | http://www.news.com.au/technology/syrian-dogfight-reveals-f35-stealth-fighter-may-be-toothless-tiger/news-story/31bd4208f783da17588045d20aeb5085 yes the F22 is still the best design just at the moment there is no way to build more. | Jun 24 01:04 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Trying to run into as many bugs as possible in Gnome Web. | Jun 24 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully it all gets fixed and Web becomes more of a challenge to Firefox. | Jun 24 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox considers Linux to be a very distant third priority. | Jun 24 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | They leave stuff broken for years. | Jun 24 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | Then they put in new features and they're only for Windows. | Jun 24 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878402671736233984 | Jun 24 01:11 |
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| MinceR | i thought broken was mozilla's new thing | Jun 24 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878405130441420800 | Jun 24 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 23/6/2017: Wine 2.11 Released, HPC Domination by | Jun 24 01:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop: #PopcornLinux, #Purism, Distro Hopping, | Jun 24 01:15 |
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| cubexyz | Linux running on FPGA could be interesting | Jun 24 01:21 |
| cubexyz | Digilent has the ZYBO board | Jun 24 01:29 |
| cubexyz | $125 for academic use | Jun 24 01:29 |
| cubexyz | 512 megs, HDMI, VGA, gigabit ethernet, USB etc | Jun 24 01:29 |
| cubexyz | although you could get a chromebox for $200 and that gives you coreboot | Jun 24 01:31 |
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| cubexyz | ok, the SSD is small, but it's upgradeable | Jun 24 01:33 |
| cubexyz | perhaps MinceR would prefer the M107U | Jun 24 01:34 |
| cubexyz | http://www.instructables.com/id/Upgrading-the-Asus-Chromebox-CN60-M004U/ | Jun 24 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.instructables.com | Upgrading the Asus Chromebox CN60 / M004U: 4 Steps (with Pictures) [ http://ur1.ca/r1vql ] | Jun 24 01:35 | |
| MinceR | for now, i think i can build a desktop PC | Jun 24 01:35 |
| MinceR | mobile devices are trickier | Jun 24 01:35 |
| MinceR | though this is somewhat inspiring >> https://boingboing.net/2017/06/16/cyberspace-is-everting.html | Jun 24 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | The Commute Deck: a homebrew Unix terminal for tight places / Boing Boing [ http://ur1.ca/r1vqo ] | Jun 24 01:36 | |
| cubexyz | umm | Jun 24 01:37 |
| cubexyz | not very runty :) | Jun 24 01:37 |
| cubexyz | plus the keyboard is split into two parts | Jun 24 01:38 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 24 01:38 |
| MinceR | but it doesn't seem too daunting physically | Jun 24 01:39 |
| MinceR | you can think of the split keyboard as an ergonomic keyboard :> | Jun 24 01:40 |
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| cubexyz | the whole /sys/devices thing is confusing | Jun 24 02:05 |
| cubexyz | man hier doesn't even mention it | Jun 24 02:06 |
| cubexyz | sorry, in slack it does but older vector it doesn't | Jun 24 02:07 |
| cubexyz | oh well, another thing to learn | Jun 24 02:07 |
| cubexyz | evidently the fashion nowadays is to put ACPI info under /sys rather than /proc | Jun 24 02:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878407207494275072 | Jun 24 02:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/zzLrOP4Vx6 | Jun 24 02:22 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: proc stands for processes | Jun 24 03:00 |
| cubexyz | well linux used to have /proc/apci/battery/BAT0/state | Jun 24 03:01 |
| cubexyz | so I guess /sys is more appropriate | Jun 24 03:01 |
| oiaohm | sys was made latter. At first everything was stuffed into /proc if it should be in proc or not. | Jun 24 03:03 |
| oiaohm | https://lwn.net/Articles/646617/ proc and sys are both lacking in good documentation. | Jun 24 03:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A tour of /sys/devices [LWN.net] | Jun 24 03:04 | |
| oiaohm | There is talk about formally writing up all the Linux kernel userspace interfaces. | Jun 24 03:05 |
| cubexyz | I notice that Unix v5 had /usr/sys | Jun 24 03:06 |
| cubexyz | so the kernel code and device driver source was in there | Jun 24 03:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yep the naming of the sysfs is based partly off of old placements from unix. | Jun 24 03:08 |
| cubexyz | all the system source code was in /usr/sys up to v7 | Jun 24 03:10 |
| cubexyz | after that I'm not sure | Jun 24 03:10 |
| cubexyz | probably most of the time the source code doesn't come with the operating system | Jun 24 03:11 |
| cubexyz | not sure exactly what /sys is | Jun 24 03:12 |
| cubexyz | they talk about the sysfs filesystem, but that's rather vague | Jun 24 03:12 |
| cubexyz | yes, in v8 that's still true: the system source is in /usr/sys | Jun 24 03:14 |
| cubexyz | I know in openbsd it doesn't come automatically with system source code | Jun 24 03:15 |
| cubexyz | and /usr/mdec has persisted in the BSDs | Jun 24 03:18 |
| cubexyz | mdec being a throw-back to magnetic dec bootstrap loaders | Jun 24 03:19 |
| cubexyz | although technically it could be a boot loader for a floppy drive, hard drive, etc | Jun 24 03:21 |
| oiaohm | https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/sysfs.txt | Jun 24 03:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: devices directory is not very formal. It for where devices want to expose options. | Jun 24 03:31 |
| cubexyz | great, now I have to figure out what a kobject is | Jun 24 03:31 |
| cubexyz | I assume sysfs is a linux thing? | Jun 24 03:34 |
| cubexyz | ah, in BSD they have sysctl instead | Jun 24 03:35 |
| cubexyz | and confusingly, there's sysctl in linux as well | Jun 24 03:37 |
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| DaemonFC | Well, it looks like the fix for one of the bugs that I reported will be pushed out for Gnome Web 3.24.3. | Jun 24 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | The upstream maintainer says it looks trivial to fix so it should make it in time. | Jun 24 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757824#c8 | Jun 24 05:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.gnome.org | Bug 757824 – Port the adblocker to the Content Blockers API | Jun 24 05:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer 2017-06-24 04:24:26 UTC | Jun 24 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | Hello, | Jun 24 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | I was reading the Roadmap to 3.26 and it seems like there could be an opportunity to solve two problems at once here. Once Web is transitioned to the Content Blocking API, Web could subscribe to Spam404 and Malware Domains Adblock Plus Lists as part of the "Block dangerous websites using a safe browsing API" feature. | Jun 24 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | That could complement using something like Google Safe Browsing by making sure that if Google misses something that are on these lists, Web can't load the site anyway due to the content block. Firefox can be configured this way. | Jun 24 05:25 |
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| DaemonFC | https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/microsoft-should-shore-up-windows-10-ss-security-then-offer-it-to-everyone/ | Jun 24 06:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Windows 10 S security brought down by, of course, Word macros | Ars Technica | Jun 24 06:14 | |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 S has already been successfully attacked by MS Word macro viruses. | Jun 24 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 24 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 24 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 S has already been successfully attacked by MS Word macro viruses. | Jun 24 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has segmented the market badly enough that the Apple "Choose a Vista" commercial could be dusted off. | Jun 24 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 S has been crippled to a point where it's even more useless than Windows XP Starter Edition was in its time. | Jun 24 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Why not get a Galago Pro or something and get a 3 pound Linux machine that runs actual software for not a lot of money instead? | Jun 24 06:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/878484985254227968 | Jun 24 06:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 06:28 |
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| schestowitz | [23:42] <cubexyz> rubik's cube | Jun 24 06:41 |
| schestowitz | I was always fascinated with your cube obsession | Jun 24 06:41 |
| schestowitz | Reminded me of Edward Snowden, as depicted in the movie "Snowden" | Jun 24 06:41 |
| schestowitz | I suggest you watch it if you have not | Jun 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | *not | Jun 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | [00:00] <MinceR> much of human society and technology relies on IT, which is being destroyed from under our feet | Jun 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | yes | Jun 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | exactly, more so over time | Jun 24 06:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 24 07:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #samsung #motorola | Jun 24 07:21 |
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| TechD | oiaohm: schestowitz https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterhigh/2017/06/20/a-recycling-entrepreneur-has-been-sentenced-to-15-months-in-prison/ | Jun 24 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Forbes Welcome | Jun 24 07:39 | |
| schestowitz | same person? | Jun 24 07:39 |
| schestowitz | or another story? | Jun 24 07:39 |
| TechD | oiaohm: schestowitz if you know Lawyers in Florida, who can help with the Appeal, please let me or him know | Jun 24 07:39 |
| schestowitz | prison is not for rich people... | Jun 24 07:39 |
| TechD | schestowitz: same story | Jun 24 07:39 |
| schestowitz | prison is for rich people to put poorer people in | Jun 24 07:40 |
| schestowitz | ridiculous | Jun 24 07:40 |
| schestowitz | and waste of federal budget | Jun 24 07:40 |
| schestowitz | housing prisoners for copying MS MALWARE | Jun 24 07:40 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft should be thankful to him | Jun 24 07:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.technewsworld.com/story/commentary/64902.htm | Jun 24 07:41 |
| schestowitz | "“So, Microsoft actively looks the other way as people pirate its software. It builds its market share that way, and lets people get used to the idea of having Windows at a certain price.”" | Jun 24 07:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.technewsworld.com/story/commentary/64902.htm ) | Jun 24 07:41 | |
| schestowitz | “No less than Bill Gates himself said in a recent Fortune article that Microsoft competes better against Linux in China when there's piracy than when there isn't." | Jun 24 07:41 |
| TechD | schestowitz: it really comes down to the judge NOT understanding that the Dell Restore CD's != fully working COA'd retail copies of Windows | Jun 24 07:41 |
| schestowitz | "It's easier for our software to compete with Linux when there's piracy than when there's not." | Jun 24 07:41 |
| schestowitz | ---Bill Gates | Jun 24 07:41 |
| TechD | i really think this can win in Appeals | Jun 24 07:42 |
| schestowitz | yes, should be | Jun 24 07:42 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about some cases like this before | Jun 24 07:42 |
| schestowitz | recyclers | Jun 24 07:42 |
| schestowitz | let me do a search | Jun 24 07:42 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/01/01/ms-sends-partners-to-jail/ | Jun 24 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Sends Its ‘Partners’ to Prison | Techrights | Jun 24 07:43 | |
| schestowitz | " It is becoming clearer that companies should refurbish with GNU/Linux, never Windows" http://techrights.org/2014/02/03/microsoft-bermuda/ | Jun 24 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Amid Financial Misconduct Microsoft Fights Against Basic Tech Rights, Obviously in an Attempt to Squeeze Out More Money | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/r1x76 ] | Jun 24 07:45 | |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft has commenced a scheme that will make Windows XP accessible to buyers of refurbished personal computers in Nigerian." | Jun 24 07:45 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2008/12/22/microsoft-addicting-dumping/ | Jun 24 07:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | B.A.D. Microsoft | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/r1x79 ] | Jun 24 07:45 | |
| schestowitz | I used to write more about this | Jun 24 07:45 |
| schestowitz | don't like the Mafia (Microsoft) get away with IMPRISONING the people who HELP Microsoft SPREAD its MALWARE | Jun 24 07:45 |
| schestowitz | It's just ethically crazy | Jun 24 07:46 |
| TechD | schestowitz: that's the even bigger problem, that they turned it into Criminal, instead of Civil (which is harder to fight) | Jun 24 07:46 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft should be the one with execs sent to prison, e.g. over http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Jun 24 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g1zod ] | Jun 24 07:46 | |
| schestowitz | and spying without consent http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Jun 24 07:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Jun 24 07:47 | |
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| TechD | Do you know someone in the EFF, who can help? | Jun 24 07:57 |
| schestowitz | it's not EFF turf | Jun 24 07:58 |
| TechD | schestowitz: oh, and you can post that ForbesArticle, if u want, thanks for waiting for it to come out :) | Jun 24 07:59 |
| TechD | schestowitz: still, the EFF might be able to give a referral, of someone who can help.. | Jun 24 08:00 |
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| schestowitz | [08:00] <TechD> schestowitz: still, the EFF might be able to give a referral, of someone who can help.. | Jun 24 08:46 |
| schestowitz | I don't think that's what EFF does | Jun 24 08:47 |
| TechD | k, thanks anyway | Jun 24 08:47 |
| TechD | anyone have any ideas on how to help? | Jun 24 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/4NLf6RpaP2 | Jun 24 14:29 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/iLDcsPn.jpg | Jun 24 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878608238186508288 | Jun 24 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How Vigo Council migrated to Linux | Jun 24 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YFCzmoey2R (www.tuxmachines.org) #vigo | Jun 24 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #spain #gnu #linux #freedom #opendocument #odf | Jun 24 14:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Vigo Council migrated to Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 24 14:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878608739296833538 | Jun 24 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Top 10 best Linux apps of 2017 https://t.co/n4cYUVPrvd | Jun 24 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 24 14:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 10 best Linux apps of 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 24 14:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/878610366728736768 | Jun 24 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Top 10 best Linux apps of 2017 https://t.co/n4cYUVPrvd | Jun 24 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 24 15:19 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Doubled the debt while increasing...' | Jun 24 15:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878619953301250048 | Jun 24 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by How Vigo Council migrated to Linux | Jun 24 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/YFCzmoey2R (www.tuxmachines.org) #vigo | Jun 24 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #spain #gnu #linux #freedom #opendocument #odf | Jun 24 15:25 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Top 10 best Linux apps of 2017 https://t.co/n4cYUVPrvd...' | Jun 24 15:25 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/loss-aversion | Jun 24 15:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Loss-Aversion | Jun 24 15:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'How Vigo Council migrated to Linux https://t.co/YFCzmoey2R #vigo...' | Jun 24 15:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6j61k0/its_done_i_have_converted/ | Jun 24 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | It's done. I have converted. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r1z70 ] | Jun 24 16:05 | |
| schestowitz | "I just finished installing Linux Mint. It took some time to make the jump but I don't think I'll regret it." | Jun 24 16:05 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/Qp1POHg.gifv | Jun 24 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Fake ATM in Brazil | Jun 24 16:12 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/wkHvYhs | Jun 24 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MFW i find a really good song and i have to share it with my wife - GIF on Imgur | Jun 24 16:16 | |
| schestowitz | I didn't notice the link on the page, but when I clicked on it, it went to her Twitch account so I guess we can assume her game streaming on Twitch now? | Jun 24 16:39 |
| schestowitz | I'm just excited to see her come back she was one of the main reasons why I got into Linux. | Jun 24 16:39 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6iyufu/nixie_pixel_back_im_not_sure_if_shes_coming_back/ | Jun 24 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Nixie Pixel back?! I'm not sure if shes coming back to YouTube but she put this up on her Facebook page and it does have a Linux logo! : linux | Jun 24 16:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #ChatOps, #CoolRetroTerm, #Calibre, | Jun 24 17:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #BrightnessController, #gnuplot 5.2, #Nix, and #Gravit | Jun 24 17:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: ChatOps, Cool-Retro-Term, Calibre, Brightness Controller, gnuplot 5.2, Nix, and Gravit | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878649207934111744 | Jun 24 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #DNS #Typosquatting, #Encryption & #Firewalls, #Vista10 | Jun 24 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Compromised, #StackClash, #CherryBlossom, #Russia and | Jun 24 17:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: DNS Typosquatting, Encryption and Firewalls, Vista 10 Compromised, Stack Clash, CherryBlossom, Russia and Epyc | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:24 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @verfassungklage retweeted @tuxmachines: '#DNS #Typosquatting, #Encryption & #Firewalls, #Vista10 Compromised, #StackClash,...' | Jun 24 17:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878650270758170624 | Jun 24 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux #Kernel Articles at #LWN (Paywall Expired) | Jun 24 17:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Articles at LWN (Paywall Expired) | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#Linux #Kernel Articles at #LWN (Paywall Expired) ...' | Jun 24 17:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @calcaware retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux #Kernel Articles at #LWN (Paywall Expired) ...' | Jun 24 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878650754596253696 | Jun 24 17:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE/Qt: Krita, #GCompris, #CompilerExplorer and Qt | Jun 24 17:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 24 17:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE/Qt: Krita, GCompris, Compiler Explorer and Qt | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878651601388527618 | Jun 24 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cross-compilation, #DLanguage in #GCC, and Complexity | Jun 24 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MCPeRWr9mT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #programming #gnu #compiler | Jun 24 17:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cross-compilation, D Language in GCC, and Complexity | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/878651867408068608 | Jun 24 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos | Jun 24 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/sIgTusATvw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #howto #gnu #linux #unix #cli | Jun 24 17:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #ChatOps, #CoolRetroTerm, #Calibre, #BrightnessController, #gnuplot 5.2, #Nix,...' | Jun 24 17:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878652153853874177 | Jun 24 17:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Advocacy of Desktop #GNU #Linux and Introduction to | Jun 24 17:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Libreboot T400 | Jun 24 17:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yysxWNrcWM (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 17:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Advocacy of Desktop GNU/Linux and Introduction to Libreboot T400 | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @HackrActual favourited 'today's howtos https://t.co/sIgTusATvw #howto #gnu #linux #unix...' | Jun 24 17:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878653751502004224 | Jun 24 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #PyCharm IDE and #LWN Coverage From the 2017 #Python | Jun 24 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Language Summit https://t.co/BY7vfo2bI1 | Jun 24 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #programming | Jun 24 17:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PyCharm IDE and LWN Coverage From the 2017 Python Language Summit | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878654705756450816 | Jun 24 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: #ChatOps, #CoolRetroTerm, #Calibre, | Jun 24 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #BrightnessController, #gnuplot 5.2, #Nix, and #Gravit | Jun 24 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/d0FCOieqaL (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 24 17:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: ChatOps, Cool-Retro-Term, Calibre, Brightness Controller, gnuplot 5.2, Nix, and Gravit | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878654830943797248 | Jun 24 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #DNS #Typosquatting, #Encryption & #Firewalls, #Vista10 | Jun 24 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Compromised, #StackClash, #CherryBlossom, #Russia and | Jun 24 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Epyc | Jun 24 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GfFOb85oaw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 17:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: DNS Typosquatting, Encryption and Firewalls, Vista 10 Compromised, Stack Clash, CherryBlossom, Russia and Epyc | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/878655754047279104 | Jun 24 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Linux #Kernel Articles at #LWN (Paywall Expired) | Jun 24 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 https://t.co/EkTgySEAYI (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #programming #development | Jun 24 17:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Articles at LWN (Paywall Expired) | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878655875610816513 | Jun 24 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Debian #Linux 9.0.x and #Skolelinux Leftovers | Jun 24 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/etHHyGALPR (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 24 17:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Linux 9.0.x and Skolelinux Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux #Kernel Articles at #LWN (Paywall Expired) ...' | Jun 24 17:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ErrorTeamWeb retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux #Kernel Articles at #LWN (Paywall Expired) ...' | Jun 24 17:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange "The Trump-Russia collusion narrative," as you put...' | Jun 24 17:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange "The Trump-Russia collusion narrative," as...' | Jun 24 17:54 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @carocarocjdl favourited '#Linux #Kernel Articles at #LWN (Paywall Expired) ...' | Jun 24 17:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Linux #Kernel Articles at #LWN (Paywall Expired) | Jun 24 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @carocarocjdl https://t.co/EkTgySEAYI (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #programming #development | Jun 24 18:01 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux #Kernel Articles at #LWN (Paywall Expired) ...' | Jun 24 18:08 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/C4CfwGf.jpg | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757824 | Jun 24 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.gnome.org | Bug 757824 – Port the adblocker to the Content Blockers API | Jun 24 18:09 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR | Jun 24 18:09 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer 2017-06-24 17:08:42 UTC | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Hmm, I guess I was wrong about what the actual goal of this was to do. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Back to the subject of blocking content, Webkit/Blink browsers apparently have some sort of bug where a really awful thing called "Ad Choices" can detect that you're blocking the ads and load ads that are even worse than the ones that were blocked. (Taboola-style, only worse than Taboola. Taboola is also currently unblocked by Gnome Web.), so if the new method of content blocking can defeat Ad Choice *and* taboola, then that would be the | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | gold standard, at least from my perspective. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | uBlock-Origin works around the bug that enables Ad Choices with a helper extension called uBlock Origin Extra whose additional goal goes into defeating hostile activity from websites in general, such as disguising third party requests as first party ones, which gets around the cookie policy of the browser, sites evading the blocking policy by (ab)using WebRTC, etc. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | The next problem is...sites detecting that ads are blocked and displaying a nag screen or locking the user out entirely. So far, I've been able to break the majority of these blockades with browser configured with uBlock Origin, uBlock Extra, Tampermonkey extension, and Anti-Adblock Reek userscript+ABP style filter. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | The web is getting to a point where if you want to turn off advertising, it's like the children's song about the old lady who swallowed a fly, and then swallowed the spider to catch the fly, then a bird to catch the spider, then a cat to catch the bird, then a dog to catch the cat.... | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Is there really a way to manage all of this stuff with a single checkbox? If there is, I'm not seeing it, and Google plans to use Chrome as a protection racket (by blocking ads not approved by their sockpuppet "Coalition for Better Ads), and then roll out "Funding Choices", which is another anti-adblock platform. Could this be a losing battle against ads/trackers? Of course it could be. Google has the resources to keep Funding Choices | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | working faster than Anti-Adblock Reek or anything else can catch up to it. So, what is the scope of ad blocking in Gnome Web? Obviously simple is good, but simple leaves out a ton of cases where Evil Inc. can game the rules to get a foot in the door. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | I do like the work that gorhill has done with uBlock Origin. It's so much more than a simple adblocker. He's put a lot of work into catching and defeating corner cases. In one example, he's replaced things like Google Analytics with a "neutered script" that gets loaded instead, with the minimum API that problem websites expect in order to stop them from failing. The guy is unstoppable. :) | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | We're going to need something powerful to keep up here. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | .... | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | We need something more powerful than a checkbox to block ads. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | The web is only getting nastier thanks to the evil Facebook+Google alliance. | Jun 24 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/878661188128735232 | Jun 24 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Debian #Linux 9.0.x and #Skolelinux Leftovers | Jun 24 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/etHHyGALPR (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 24 18:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Linux 9.0.x and Skolelinux Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 24 18:10 | |
| MinceR | this is the first time i hear about a facebook+google alliance | Jun 24 18:11 |
| MinceR | did Fuckerberg's love affair with m$ end? | Jun 24 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878661575581868033 | Jun 24 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE/Qt: Krita, #GCompris, #CompilerExplorer and Qt | Jun 24 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/wSuPfSOBW1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #qt | Jun 24 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 24 18:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE/Qt: Krita, GCompris, Compiler Explorer and Qt | Tux Machines | Jun 24 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9509470 | Jun 24 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Coming off a strong quarter, #RedHat CEO Jim Whitehurst talks public clouds and containers https://www.geekwire.com/2017/coming-off-strong-quarter-red-hat-ceo-jim-whitehurst-talks-public-clouds-containers/ from #microsoft oriented 'media' | Jun 24 18:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Coming off a strong quarter, Red Hat CEO Jim Whitehurst talks public clouds and containers – GeekWire [ http://ur1.ca/r202x ] | Jun 24 18:17 | |
| MinceR | has he also mentioned his plan to destroy unix? | Jun 24 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878662467890667520 | Jun 24 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Cross-compilation, #DLanguage in #GCC, and Complexity | Jun 24 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/MCPeRWr9mT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #programming #gnu #compiler | Jun 24 18:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cross-compilation, D Language in GCC, and Complexity | Tux Machines | Jun 24 18:21 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://lupinix.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/improving-qtwebkit-security-for-fedora.html | Jun 24 18:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lupinix.blogspot.co.uk | lupinix: Improving QtWebKit security for Fedora [ http://ur1.ca/r205e ] | Jun 24 18:25 | |
| schestowitz | juts now... | Jun 24 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Coalition for Better Ads = Sockpuppet astroturf group representing Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and other ad and spyware companies. | Jun 24 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878664256455155712 | Jun 24 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Advocacy of Desktop #GNU #Linux and Introduction to | Jun 24 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Libreboot T400 | Jun 24 18:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/878666173516308480 | Jun 24 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE/Qt: Krita, #GCompris, #CompilerExplorer and Qt | Jun 24 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/wSuPfSOBW1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #qt | Jun 24 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 24 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 18:30 | |
| MinceR | has it ever occurred to them to just use non-animated plain text ads without iframes? | Jun 24 18:31 |
| MinceR | (also without javascript) | Jun 24 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Coalition for Better Ads = Sockpuppet astroturf group representing Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and other ad and spyware companies. | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Don't fall for it. Write your state's Attorney General and ask them to investigate for cartel/antitrust behavior. | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Talking Points: | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Google Chrome will have an "ad filter" next year that blocks ads that compete with the "Coalition"'s guidelines. | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Google will offer websites "Funding Choices" which demands that users "lower their shields" and potentially infect their computers with malicious software served by ads and let malicious tracking scripts follow them around the web, or they will have to give up trying to use the site or pay a per-page fee, of which much of it goes to Google. | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm filing a complaint against Google with the state of Illinois. | Jun 24 18:34 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/r/funny/iqgPNeq | Jun 24 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Friends with benefits - GIF on Imgur | Jun 24 18:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878666707866460160 | Jun 24 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #PyCharm IDE and #LWN Coverage From the 2017 #Python | Jun 24 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Language Summit https://t.co/BY7vfo2bI1 | Jun 24 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #programming | Jun 24 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 18:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PyCharm IDE and LWN Coverage From the 2017 Python Language Summit | Tux Machines | Jun 24 18:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878670425726779392 | Jun 24 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu: #Ubuntu Server, Desktop and Icons/Themes | Jun 24 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7OMAQkbTTb (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 24 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 24 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: Ubuntu Server, Desktop and Icons/Themes | Tux Machines | Jun 24 18:47 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/xicaj | Jun 24 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If you have a problem with this "manspreading" thing, I got this for you. - Album on Imgur | Jun 24 18:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu: #Ubuntu Server, Desktop and Icons/Themes https://t.co/7OMAQkbTTb...' | Jun 24 18:51 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/hLoJZ | Jun 24 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I think I'll skip work and keep watching this... - Album on Imgur | Jun 24 18:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @VaulsteinR favourited '#PyCharm IDE and #LWN Coverage From the 2017...' | Jun 24 18:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @dominoisdead favourited 'Ubuntu: #Ubuntu Server, Desktop and Icons/Themes https://t.co/7OMAQkbTTb...' | Jun 24 18:59 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The new Firefox Focus browser on Android is just a Chrome webview with ad/tracking filters. | Jun 24 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | I was wondering why it was running so much smoother than Firefox for Android does. | Jun 24 19:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878679868220858368 | Jun 24 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora: Design Team, #QtWebKit #Security, Badges, and | Jun 24 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Multimedia | Jun 24 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5QPYWdeWkG (www.tuxmachines.org) #swpats | Jun 24 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #mp3 #mpv #plex #design #redhat | Jun 24 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 19:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: Design Team, QtWebKit Security, Badges, and Multimedia | Tux Machines | Jun 24 19:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fedora: Design Team, #QtWebKit #Security, Badges, and Multimedia...' | Jun 24 19:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @YourDesignWrld favourited '#Fedora: Design Team, #QtWebKit #Security, Badges, and Multimedia...' | Jun 24 19:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878681275757993984 | Jun 24 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased | Jun 24 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on #Debian 9 "Stretch" | Jun 24 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/AN775XmCMI (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi | Jun 24 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 24 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 19:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation's Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 24 19:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @calcaware retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased...' | Jun 24 19:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @CIA See @JohnKiriakou - sent to...' | Jun 24 19:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden @CIA See @JohnKiriakou -...' | Jun 24 19:30 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/5X5WX | Jun 24 19:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fun facts: Saturday evening edition - Album on Imgur | Jun 24 19:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased...' | Jun 24 19:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Actually, there are issues with Signal, esp....' | Jun 24 19:42 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/ericevenchick/status/877919955945181184 | Jun 24 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ericevenchick: Typo of the Day: "they need to satanize this input." | Jun 24 19:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden Actually, there are issues with...' | Jun 24 19:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/878685979426643972 | Jun 24 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased | Jun 24 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 on #Debian 9 "Stretch" | Jun 24 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/AN775XmCMI (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi | Jun 24 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 24 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 19:56 | |
| MinceR | http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/06/20/11/15/isis-themed-fake-lego-sets-exported-globally-from-china | Jun 24 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ISIS-themed fake Lego sets exported globally from China - 9news.com.au | Jun 24 19:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden PGP is demonstrably more secure than a...' | Jun 24 20:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | So I got the Chromium Media Libs Freeworld package from RPM Fusion and installed it into Fedora's Chromium browser. | Jun 24 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | Now all the codecs work but there's still no Widevine or Flash, which I guess is fine. | Jun 24 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | Tried Spotify Web Player and songs play for 9 seconds, figure out that Widevine isn't there, and stop. | Jun 24 20:13 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange @wikileaks HRC bragged about appealing to the...' | Jun 24 20:25 | |
| DaemonFC | https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=9984636 | Jun 24 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-koji.fedoraproject.org | chromium-libs-59.0.3071.104-1.fc26.x86_64.rpm | RPM Info | koji | Jun 24 20:26 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, Chromium in Fedora now bundles 318 private copies of libraries. | Jun 24 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | That's an improvement. Used to be over 400. | Jun 24 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 24 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | No wonder it takes over 400 MB of space to install it. | Jun 24 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome is much worse. Over 550 MB. | Jun 24 20:27 |
| schestowitz | holy crap | Jun 24 20:29 |
| MinceR | http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/23/middleeast/turkey-to-stop-teaching-evolution/index.html | Jun 24 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Turkey to stop teaching evolution in high school - CNN.com | Jun 24 20:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Building Chromium is not easy. | Jun 24 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is pretty easy. Chromium is a nightmare. | Jun 24 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why Tom Callaway took it on as a hobby. | Jun 24 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | He's been slowly improving Chromium to be less of a packaging guidelines violation on Fedora, but it still required an exception from the guidelines by Fedora. | Jun 24 20:59 |
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| DaemonFC | To say that Chromium is a mess is to put it mildly. This is what happens when a bunch of people with backgrounds in Java and Microsoft Windows get together to build a program. | Jun 24 21:00 |
| MinceR | http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/comics/irreg1582.jpg | Jun 24 21:06 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks You need a news site or blog....' | Jun 24 21:09 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 24 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 24 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | I was wondering why there was an extension in Fedora's version of Chromium that adds "Fedora" to the user agent. | Jun 24 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | If Netflix decides that you're not using "Chrome" or if you try to view it once without Widevine and it fails, it sets a cookie so that it never works again, even if you change your user agent and/or install Widevine, unless you delete the cookie. If you don't, it tells you to download Microsoft Silverlight, which is more or less abandoned on Windows and never worked in Linux, not really, without the Pipelight hack (Pipelight | Jun 24 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | plug-in+Patched Wine+ Silverlight = BARF). | Jun 24 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | I was looking at the release notes. Apparently, the extension doesn't add "Fedora" to the user agent for some sites, including Netflix. | Jun 24 21:12 |
| MinceR | don't use NETFUX and don't pay them | Jun 24 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They ported The Witcher 2 to Linux, but the release notes say that it requires an Nvidia card and a recent version of the proprietary driver and it will refuse to run on AMD or Intel no matter what. | Jun 24 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | Glad I saw that before I bought it. | Jun 24 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | I hear developers say good things about Nvidia's OpenGL implementation, but the driver is a bitch to deal with. | Jun 24 21:15 |
| MinceR | i managed to get Super Grub2 Disk to boot by copying it into SystemRescueCd's floppy image directory and making a menu entry for it :> | Jun 24 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | It breaks your system in many ways. It's hard to actually live with. | Jun 24 21:15 |
| MinceR | well, i've seen it cause many crashes | Jun 24 21:15 |
| MinceR | the nvidia blob, that is | Jun 24 21:15 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/resume http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1496673761-20170605after%20%281%29.png | Jun 24 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Resume | Jun 24 21:16 | |
| DaemonFC | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/chromium-widevine | Jun 24 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.debian.org | Debian -- Details of package chromium-widevine in stretch [ http://ur1.ca/r21dt ] | Jun 24 21:19 | |
| DaemonFC | So Debian won't give you wifi firmware by default, but they packaged Widevine. :) | Jun 24 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | That certainly makes sense. | Jun 24 21:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 24 21:22 |
| MinceR | they'll also happily give you mono | Jun 24 21:22 |
| MinceR | and they force systemd on you | Jun 24 21:22 |
| MinceR | maybe they replaced the DFSG with rolling dice | Jun 24 21:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks You need a news site...' | Jun 24 21:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You are killing people with "trumpcare". All...' | Jun 24 21:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @MSNBC Saying Wikileaks is "like" NYTimes or...' | Jun 24 21:56 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Hmm, break his wifi but mke it really easy to install Widevine. | Jun 24 22:04 |
| MinceR | DRM is probably "modern" | Jun 24 22:05 |
| MinceR | having network connectivity, not so much | Jun 24 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | DFSG is really weak. It lets them put nonfree packages in and call them contrib or non-free and technically they're not part of Debian but you would be hard pressed to know the difference. | Jun 24 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Widevine support in Fedora's version of Firefox should be another reason the FSF doesn't recommend Fedora. It's turned off by default, which means that Fedora technically has no nonfree software (excluding firmware), but the preference remains and most users will turn it on to deal with media that doesn't play. | Jun 24 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yes, get rid of Netflix. Just use pirate streaming sites without DRM. | Jun 24 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Fuck Netflix. They shouldn't have broken their website in Free web browsers if they wanted subscribers. | Jun 24 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | The fact that entire seasons of Netflix shows are streaming on a pirate website a month before Netflix adds them shows how well Widevine is working. | Jun 24 22:08 |
| MinceR | i don't mind having nonfree packages as long as i can choose whether or not to have them installed | Jun 24 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | The pirates just slip the files out of one of the production companies on a thumb drive. | Jun 24 22:09 |
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| DaemonFC | So Netflix has lost before the files could even be posted, which makes Widevine unimportant. | Jun 24 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Even if Widevine does interfere with copying, people will find another way to copy the files. They'll figure out a weakness in Widevine or rip the Blu Ray disc. | Jun 24 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | So Widevine is like locking the barn door after the horse has bolted. | Jun 24 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | It only hurts paying customers of Netflix. | Jun 24 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Even worse, for them, it encourages paying customers to cancel and use streaming sites that work instead. | Jun 24 22:11 |
| MinceR | (oh, also if not much depends on them on the long run) | Jun 24 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Widevine will probably end up swallowing most of the web. | Jun 24 22:16 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 24 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Since Google doesn't charge licensing fees, sites will use it because they can. | Jun 24 22:16 |
| MinceR | tbl put the rubberstamp on it, now it's "standard" | Jun 24 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Surprised that all of Youtube doesn't use it already. | Jun 24 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | That Youtube TV thing almost certainly does. | Jun 24 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Youtube TV sounds like what Sling TV already has only more expensive for fewer channels in the basic package and no option for HBO. | Jun 24 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | "DVR like you never have before. Never run out of space!" | Jun 24 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Well, pirate streaming sites never cause me to run out of space either, and the pirates have edited all the commercial breaks out so I don't have to fast forward anything. | Jun 24 22:20 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 24 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | You mean I can get what I already have, only with fewer programming choices and 18 minutes of commercials for each hour? | Jun 24 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | For only $50 more per month than I pay now? | Jun 24 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Woohoo! | Jun 24 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Lack of Widevine has some practical upsides. | Jun 24 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Some websites, like NBC, Widevine their annoying autoplay videos. | Jun 24 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | Without Widevine they can't start. | Jun 24 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | Also, any potential malware that depends on it being there won't work, of course. | Jun 24 22:24 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 24 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | I wrote a long letter to Attorney General Lisa Madigan's office about Google abusing their majority marketshare to commit a litany of abuses against web users. | Jun 24 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | She went after Facebook, Jimmy Johns, Lenovo, and some others and got them to agree to settlements. | Jun 24 22:27 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Did you flush again?' | Jun 24 22:31 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/5EwFPG1.jpg | Jun 24 22:43 |
| *XRevan86 saw Richard Dawkins today. | Jun 24 22:49 | |
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| schestowitz | IRL? | Jun 24 22:58 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: did he visit Russia? | Jun 24 22:59 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: yep | Jun 24 22:59 |
| schestowitz | cool! | Jun 24 23:00 |
| schestowitz | I like his debating skills | Jun 24 23:00 |
| schestowitz | although he comes across as too shrill sometimes | Jun 24 23:00 |
| schestowitz | strident | Jun 24 23:00 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It was a short 1 hour event, he did a lecture, then three picked questions from a website were given to him | Jun 24 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | not very debate-inducing :) | Jun 24 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | two questions were religion-related | Jun 24 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Did he make fun of the Orthodox church and call Putin a "homo"? or a "Pussy"? Did he instigate a Riot? | Jun 24 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: He did call Islam evil | Jun 24 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | so… no | Jun 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | religion can be evil, Islam more so | Jun 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | it's taking things further, esp. in practice | Jun 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | but Putin like Islam-bashing | Jun 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | his RT/Sputkin channels like to stir up hatred towards Muslims in EU | Jun 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | I reckon they want to destabilise the EU/NATO from the inside this way | Jun 24 23:03 |
| schestowitz | no need for nukes/M.A.D. | Jun 24 23:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: In his lecture he was making planned economy analogies also. And they were very careful and considerate %). | Jun 24 23:05 |
| MinceR | (potentially disturbing imagery) http://imgur.com/gallery/u9tjd | Jun 24 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The nature is wild af - Album on Imgur | Jun 24 23:05 | |
| MinceR | Dawkins lives too dangerously | Jun 24 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | Although this reminds me that yesterday Milonov demanded the Dawkins lecture to be revoked %) | Jun 24 23:06 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: so I won't click it | Jun 24 23:07 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 24 23:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, he runs the risk of going into hiding | Jun 24 23:07 |
| schestowitz | like Rushdie | Jun 24 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Rush! Die!! | Jun 24 23:07 |
| XRevan86 | https://politros.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/3-9.jpg this guy | Jun 24 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitaly_Milonov | Jun 24 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Vitaly Milonov - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r229q ] | Jun 24 23:08 | |
| MinceR | yet another christian taliban | Jun 24 23:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878736736419020800 | Jun 24 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/wl4t85f2bJ | Jun 24 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #google | Jun 24 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 23:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 24 23:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/wl4t85f2bJ #linux #google' | Jun 24 23:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878737648977883137 | Jun 24 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux 4.11.7 and more https://t.co/axKTE1aU4G | Jun 24 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernel #programming #gpl | Jun 24 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 23:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.11.7 | Tux Machines | Jun 24 23:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/herodfel/status/878736944322101248 | Jun 24 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@herodfel: @schestowitz Ahhh.. He says that wherever he goes...including in the UK. Pretty lame attempt at point scoring... | Jun 24 23:14 | |
| DaemonFC | I got out of EAFE stocks with a 7% gain over about 2 months before it started falling again. | Jun 24 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Put it back into an S&P 500 index. | Jun 24 23:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @calcaware retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux 4.11.7 and more https://t.co/axKTE1aU4G #kernel #programming #gpl' | Jun 24 23:16 | |
| DaemonFC | The S&P was at about the same point where it was when I left it, but has been trending upwards again. | Jun 24 23:17 |
| MinceR | well, if he dared to say that christianity and judaism is about as evil as islam, he would have been killed | Jun 24 23:17 |
| MinceR | which is why he shouldn't go to such fascist shitholes | Jun 24 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | I don't necessarily see buy and hold as a good strategy for international stocks right now. | Jun 24 23:18 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux 4.11.7 and more https://t.co/axKTE1aU4G #kernel #programming #gpl' | Jun 24 23:18 | |
| DaemonFC | If the Dollar beats the Euro back into the ground, they could become a good value again, and that's a distinct possibility. | Jun 24 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | The EU is being destabilized. The Brexit thing and having to haul around the PIGS is really undermining it much more than Russia could ever hope for. | Jun 24 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | An election in France isn't going to fix that. | Jun 24 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878739115340161024 | Jun 24 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical Releases #Snapcraft 2.32 to Support ROS Lunar | Jun 24 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in the Catkin Plugin https://t.co/ivOuyggCrM | Jun 24 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 24 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 23:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Releases Snapcraft 2.32 to Support ROS Lunar in the Catkin Plugin | Tux Machines | Jun 24 23:20 | |
| DaemonFC | Germany likes the Euro because it suits their needs fine. | Jun 24 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Trade surplus....exporting unemployment.... | Jun 24 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | When the Eurozone fails, they can just reintroduce the Mark. | Jun 24 23:21 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Canonical Releases #Snapcraft 2.32 to Support ROS Lunar...' | Jun 24 23:22 | |
| DaemonFC | They have an incentive to keep the Euro going as long as possible, even if they have to fund destructive bailouts, because it's a small price to pay for their own exorbitant privilege. | Jun 24 23:22 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Well, he called all religions evil, but Islam as the worst, to be more exact. | Jun 24 23:24 |
| XRevan86 | like Christianity in Medieval times (also his words) | Jun 24 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | When they're done sucking the guts out of the surrounding countries, they'll be fine. The Mark will be accepted and strong even as other countries try to reintroduce separate drastically devalued currencies to try to fund their debt loads and current account deficits. | Jun 24 23:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878740085566578688 | Jun 24 23:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME Improvements, Performance Improvements Included | Jun 24 23:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5v4bLC6sJU (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 24 23:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gtk | Jun 24 23:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Improvements, Performance Improvements Included | Tux Machines | Jun 24 23:24 | |
| DaemonFC | I doubt Hungary will ever bother to join the Euro? What possible incentive would they have to do that? They can just keep managing the Forint and government budget deficits to where they never comply with the Maastricht Treaty. | Jun 24 23:25 |
| MinceR | hungary will probably keep falling further and further behind the requirements as the nazis fuck up the economy even more | Jun 24 23:26 |
| MinceR | maybe these morons believe they can compete with red china at cheap slave labor if only they manage to lower wages enough | Jun 24 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Same thing going on here, MinceR | Jun 24 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Red states. | Jun 24 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, If $7.25 an hour doesn't work, you can always try slave labor. Work prisoners for 50 cents an hour in Commissary funds. The Republicans can always find more people smoking pot to lock up forever. | Jun 24 23:31 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 24 23:32 |
| MinceR | have they started having their slaves breed in prison yet? | Jun 24 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | No, they do that enough on the outside. | Jun 24 23:36 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 24 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | They parole people long enough to get pregnant sometimes. | Jun 24 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | Then they do something out of desperation, go back in, give birth in prison. | Jun 24 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | State takes the baby and puts it in a foster home where it'll get abused and end up in prison later. | Jun 24 23:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #debian #gnu #linux #ubuntu | Jun 18 09:00 |
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| schestowitz | msb in reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6f3xby/microsofts_war_against_linux/ | Jun 18 09:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft's war against Linux : linux | Jun 18 09:00 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Intel AMT vulnerable for data stealing. Linux may be targeted as well. (Another) good time for AMD open sourcing its PSP? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r0mva ] | Jun 18 09:01 | |
| schestowitz | they deleted DaemonFC's https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6exb6e/lenovo_locking_linux_out_of_at_least_a_couple_of/ | Jun 18 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo locking Linux out of at least a couple of laptops again. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qy9x8 ] | Jun 18 09:08 | |
| oiaohm | https://techbeacon.com/software-security-liability-coming-are-your-engineers-ready this is a interesting read. | Jun 18 09:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Security liability is coming for software: Is your engineering team ready? | TechBeacon | Jun 18 09:20 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/king-henrys-foot.jpg | Jun 18 13:46 |
| schestowitz | nice | Jun 18 13:47 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/kxDH3v4.jpg | Jun 18 13:48 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I keep wondering: how popular are imperial units in Britain? | Jun 18 13:49 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6fpm8y/linus_his_take_on_microsoft_earlier_days_what_is/ | Jun 18 13:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linus & his take on Microsoft. Earlier days. What is he saying here?? : linux | Jun 18 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: not like in the US | Jun 18 13:50 |
| schestowitz | with the EU we moved to metric for almost everything | Jun 18 13:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: What about the common folk? | Jun 18 13:51 |
| MinceR | https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/azq7AqN_700b.jpg (sauce: https://9gag.com/gag/azq7AqN ) | Jun 18 13:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's what she said? | Jun 18 13:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Slavic architecture - 9GAG | Jun 18 13:51 | |
| XRevan86 | > with the EU | Jun 18 13:51 |
| XRevan86 | Recent thing then? | Jun 18 13:51 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 18 13:51 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: about 17 years ago | Jun 18 13:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This reminded me of some bad dreams I am sometimes having. | Jun 18 13:52 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 18 13:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: So I guess regular people still use imperial units inertedly. | Jun 18 13:53 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was an optical illusion at first | Jun 18 13:53 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: older people | Jun 18 13:53 |
| schestowitz | stones and pounds for bodyweight | Jun 18 13:53 |
| XRevan86 | > That's what you do if you're connecting two buildings with different floor levels. It's probably that | Jun 18 13:56 |
| XRevan86 | Interesting, didn't know that. | Jun 18 13:56 |
| MinceR | it could be done better | Jun 18 13:56 |
| MinceR | you could just bring the steps to the right below that door's floor level up to that floor level | Jun 18 13:57 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: actually i think i've encountered something like this in a dream, but that wasn't a nightmare | Jun 18 13:57 |
| XRevan86 | > amaterasuaboy: As a child I always had nightmares about stairs like this | Jun 18 13:58 |
| XRevan86 | Yeah, not a nightmare for me too, just some confusing stuff. | Jun 18 13:58 |
| XRevan86 | > you could just bring the steps to the right below that door's floor level up to that floor level | Jun 18 14:00 |
| XRevan86 | I guess the door is the new thing here. | Jun 18 14:00 |
| MinceR | the stairs don't make sense though | Jun 18 14:00 |
| XRevan86 | and they changed the left stairs but kept the right ones for some reason | Jun 18 14:00 |
| MinceR | it's pointless to walk down just so you can walk back up | Jun 18 14:01 |
| MinceR | in fact, there isn't even enough room for the landing in the deep corner | Jun 18 14:01 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, this could be avoided. | Jun 18 14:03 |
| XRevan86 | > Well, it has its ups and downs | Jun 18 14:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe that dream thing shows we're slightly claustrophobic :) | Jun 18 14:06 |
| XRevan86 | or maybe it's just confusing for a dream state to have stairs go in different directions | Jun 18 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | horizontally | Jun 18 14:09 |
| XRevan86 | so when one remembers about that while dreaming, it gets weirded out | Jun 18 14:10 |
| MinceR | i found it weird while dreaming | Jun 18 14:11 |
| MinceR | but i proceeded :> | Jun 18 14:11 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I guess the only hope for US to change the unit system is for it to join EU :) | Jun 18 14:11 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 14:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, that will happen | Jun 18 14:12 |
| oiaohm | Some of the biggest mess in USA history with Nasa and mil has been mixing up the to unit systems. | Jun 18 14:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Mine usually involve climbing through holes between staircases of different levels | Jun 18 14:12 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 14:13 |
| oiaohm | http://edition.cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/30/mars.metric.02/ | Jun 18 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | CNN - Metric mishap caused loss of NASA orbiter - September 30, 1999 [ http://ur1.ca/r0oeq ] | Jun 18 14:13 | |
| oiaohm | They are kind of classical stuff ups. | Jun 18 14:14 |
| oiaohm | One contractor uses metric one uses imperial and result is failure. | Jun 18 14:14 |
| *XRevan86 waits for a -up when somebody confuses a day with a month :) | Jun 18 14:14 | |
| XRevan86 | 05/01/17 | Jun 18 14:14 |
| XRevan86 | May first 2017? January fifth 2017? | Jun 18 14:15 |
| oiaohm | Yep its like war has to end on like the 1/1 2/2 3/3 .... so that everyone stops fighting at the same time. | Jun 18 14:15 |
| XRevan86 | Or maybe January seventeenth 2005 | Jun 18 14:15 |
| XRevan86 | A Japanese would write it like that :) | Jun 18 14:16 |
| oiaohm | I though reversed was 4 digit year. | Jun 18 14:16 |
| XRevan86 | Though yes, rather 2005/01/17 | Jun 18 14:16 |
| XRevan86 | maybe a rogue Japanese :) | Jun 18 14:16 |
| oiaohm | O my http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/leforinforref/64790/HTML/default/viewer.htm#n18uyqeusnl0fxn1d9pvhm49j4za.htm | Jun 18 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.sas.com | SAS(R) 9.4 Formats and Informats: Reference [ http://ur1.ca/r0ofm ] | Jun 18 14:17 | |
| oiaohm | Yes yymmdd is valid. | Jun 18 14:17 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: :D | Jun 18 14:18 |
| XRevan86 | Everybody should just use 2017-01-05, I'm positive about that. | Jun 18 14:22 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country there is a nightmare on that go down to Kazakhstan | Jun 18 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Date format by country - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qzhvs ] | Jun 18 14:22 | |
| XRevan86 | Tested on locals who never saw it before in their lives: they never had any confusion at all. | Jun 18 14:23 |
| oiaohm | to be insane Kazakhstan support yyyy dd mm | Jun 18 14:23 |
| oiaohm | Nothing like the human race making it hard to know what day a person is referencing. | Jun 18 14:23 |
| XRevan86 | > (yyyy.dd.mm) in Kazakh | Jun 18 14:23 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Well, dots is not good here I agree. | Jun 18 14:24 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: But here's a secret about Kazakhstan: Kazakh is a minority language there. | Jun 18 14:24 |
| oiaohm | That would be sad going to war to unify global date systems. | Jun 18 14:24 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/ATmdjYk.png | Jun 18 14:25 |
| oiaohm | We have had wars over all kinds of stupidity so I would not put that past the human race. | Jun 18 14:25 |
| XRevan86 | Kazakh is going to get even more obscure soon too. | Jun 18 14:25 |
| XRevan86 | The eternal president of Kazakhstan decided they should change the alphabet of the language. | Jun 18 14:25 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 14:26 |
| MinceR | another eternal president? | Jun 18 14:26 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yep | Jun 18 14:26 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nursultan_Nazarbayev | Jun 18 14:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Nursultan Nazarbayev - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0ohs ] | Jun 18 14:27 | |
| XRevan86 | > He has been the country's leader since 1989, when he was named First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Kazakh SSR, and was elected the nation's first president following its independence from the Soviet Union in December 1991. He holds the title 'Leader of the Nation'. In April 2015, Nazarbayev was re-elected with almost 98% of the vote. | Jun 18 14:27 |
| MinceR | ah, not official yet | Jun 18 14:27 |
| MinceR | (and not dead yet, so north korea is the only necrocracy for now) | Jun 18 14:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, no, it's not his real status :) | Jun 18 14:27 |
| XRevan86 | not de-jure, I mean | Jun 18 14:27 |
| XRevan86 | He's like Lukashenko | Jun 18 14:28 |
| XRevan86 | only 5 years cooler | Jun 18 14:28 |
| MinceR | >Nazarbayev espoused anti-religious views during the Soviet era;[60] he has now made an effort to highlight his Muslim heritage by performing the Hajj pilgrimage,[60] and supporting mosque renovations.[61] | Jun 18 14:29 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 14:29 |
| MinceR | just like hungarians | Jun 18 14:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Just like Russians. | Jun 18 14:29 |
| MinceR | doesn't matter whether "communist"/"socialist" symbolism or religious fundamentalist symbolism, they're always all for extreme authoritarianism | Jun 18 14:30 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's just careerism | Jun 18 14:30 |
| XRevan86 | they go for what's hip at a time | Jun 18 14:30 |
| MinceR | they don't believe in anything except oppression and exploitation | Jun 18 14:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's besides symbolism though, isn't it? | Jun 18 14:31 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 18 14:31 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, Kazakhstan is pretty nice. | Jun 18 14:33 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIV-QdPEx-Q | Jun 18 14:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kazakhstan You Very Nice Place - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r0oje ] | Jun 18 14:34 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I guess it's Borat | Jun 18 14:34 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 18 14:34 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/zqCIzzTAmxU :D | Jun 18 14:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Borat anthem plays at medal ceremony - YouTube | Jun 18 14:36 | |
| XRevan86 | > unintentional | Jun 18 14:37 |
| XRevan86 | Yeah, they were totally fooled by Borat's anthem with English lyrics | Jun 18 14:37 |
| schestowitz | haha | Jun 18 14:39 |
| schestowitz | classic | Jun 18 14:39 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/91uXQmO.gifv | Jun 18 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Classic | Jun 18 14:50 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What? o_0 | Jun 18 14:50 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/6E50Mju.jpg | Jun 18 14:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This warrants a remake of Jesus Christ Superstar | Jun 18 14:51 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6hci0f/linux_code_in_prey/ | Jun 18 14:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux code in Prey? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r0onk ] | Jun 18 14:53 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that was blunt.. | Jun 18 14:55 |
| oiaohm | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Flatpak-Steam-Flathub this is interesting | Jun 18 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Is Now Available In Flatpak Form - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r0onz ] | Jun 18 14:56 | |
| schestowitz | good | Jun 18 14:57 |
| MinceR | >steam >flatpak | Jun 18 15:00 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/dFZmJ6a.jpg | Jun 18 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: 404 | Jun 18 15:02 |
| MinceR | :( | Jun 18 15:02 |
| MinceR | i guess someone posted something on imgur that vlad didn't like | Jun 18 15:02 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Which Vlad? | Jun 18 15:03 |
| MinceR | the khuilo | Jun 18 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He has control over imgur? | Jun 18 15:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876440078016532480 | Jun 18 15:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/0DTBcapG8C | Jun 18 15:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #steamso #steam #gnu #linux #games | Jun 18 15:03 |
| MinceR | he has control over the Great Firewall of Russia | Jun 18 15:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming #gamepack | Jun 18 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jun 18 15:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 18 15:03 | |
| schestowitz | weird | Jun 18 15:04 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: the URL works here | Jun 18 15:04 |
| schestowitz | maybe Vlad doesn't like MinceR's gay-ish posts | Jun 18 15:04 |
| XRevan86 | It's HTTPS so I doubt Vlad MitM'd it %) | Jun 18 15:04 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 18 15:04 |
| schestowitz | what's the point of it? | Jun 18 15:04 |
| XRevan86 | okay, it works in Chromium | Jun 18 15:05 |
| MinceR | maybe vlad has spies at the generally accepted root CAs | Jun 18 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe imgur has a policy of not showing such content to Firefox users %) | Jun 18 15:05 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 15:06 |
| XRevan86 | https://forum.f-droid.org/t/600 :( | Jun 18 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.f-droid.org | So long, farewell and goodbye - F-Droid Forum | Jun 18 15:11 | |
| XRevan86 | Hmm, techrightsbot… http://localhost/ | Jun 18 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights | People's rights in the digital age | Plutocracy threatened by freedom, democracy, privacy & civil rights | Jun 18 15:11 | |
| XRevan86 | That's the thing with those title parsers. | Jun 18 15:12 |
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| MinceR | lying to get people to adopt your shit: "MBR disks do not support more than four partitions on each disk." https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc725797%28v=ws.11%29.aspx | Jun 18 15:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-technet.microsoft.com | Change a GUID Partition Table Disk into a Master Boot Record Disk [ http://ur1.ca/r0ow3 ] | Jun 18 15:33 | |
| MinceR | justmicrosoftthings | Jun 18 15:33 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that statement is correct MBR it self only has slots for 4 partitions. | Jun 18 15:49 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i wonder what extended partitions are for | Jun 18 15:52 |
| MinceR | which they supported in their dos for ages | Jun 18 15:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_boot_record extended partitions are EBR | Jun 18 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Extended boot record - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0p0r ] | Jun 18 15:54 | |
| MinceR | and they are referred by the MBR | Jun 18 15:54 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lvm or EBR or some other break up system could be reference by the MBR to get extra partitions. | Jun 18 15:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so like it or not EBR is not really required for on a drive using MBR. | Jun 18 15:56 |
| oiaohm | GUID Partition Table (GPT) in the primary table support up to 128 entries for partitions. | Jun 18 15:57 |
| oiaohm | And you can if you wish use LVM or EBR inside those. | Jun 18 15:57 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: mind you the bigger issue with MBR is the 2TB limit. | Jun 18 16:00 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I really do wonder what size drive and what setup would require to use all 128 partitions of GPT. | Jun 18 16:03 |
| MinceR | i really don't care | Jun 18 16:04 |
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| MinceR | https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753506%28v=ws.11%29.aspx | Jun 18 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-technet.microsoft.com | Create partition logical [ http://ur1.ca/r0p3w ] | Jun 18 16:08 | |
| MinceR | and then the nonexistent "logical" "partition" suddenly existed again | Jun 18 16:09 |
| MinceR | also, it's nice to see that there still are plenty of people who tirelessly defend the interests of industry-destroying criminal corporations without getting any rewards for it | Jun 18 16:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @Castlewell https://twitter.com/Castlewell/status/876459753987244032 | Jun 18 16:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #games #videogames | Jun 18 16:21 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: really items like set-top boxes that in specs that say support only MBR drivers you will find EBR other extends don't work. | Jun 18 16:25 |
| MinceR | are any of my PCs set-top boxes? | Jun 18 16:26 |
| MinceR | does the article i cited mention set-top boxes anywhere? | Jun 18 16:26 |
| MinceR | really, you m$ shills come up with the stupidest excuses | Jun 18 16:26 |
| oiaohm | The article does not say it for PC either. | Jun 18 16:26 |
| oiaohm | This is how Microsoft gets away with it. | Jun 18 16:26 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: so it not a wrong statement it a deceptive one. | Jun 18 16:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: MBR drive does not mean a driver with MBR and EBR either. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363785(VS.85).aspx yes Microsoft and their defines basic disc is MBR and EBR and Dynamic disks is using Microsofts equal to LVM. | Jun 18 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-msdn.microsoft.com | Basic and Dynamic Disks (Windows) [ http://ur1.ca/r0p8j ] | Jun 18 16:33 | |
| MinceR | except when it does | Jun 18 16:34 |
| MinceR | but yeah, calling the msdos partitioning scheme "MBR" was a clever move | Jun 18 16:34 |
| MinceR | lets them do doublethink and doubletalk about it | Jun 18 16:34 |
| MinceR | and people like you fall for it too | Jun 18 16:34 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record except you have the history wrong. | Jun 18 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Master boot record - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0p8v ] | Jun 18 16:36 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: IBM made MBR not Microsoft. So its IBM partition scheme that Microsoft creatively renamed. | Jun 18 16:36 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: IBM define of MBR does not have extended partitions. | Jun 18 16:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes Microsoft goes back into history when it suite them. | Jun 18 16:38 |
| MinceR | so m$-dos supporting them must have been a bug | Jun 18 16:38 |
| schestowitz | same for smb | Jun 18 16:38 |
| MinceR | yes, m$ lies when it suits them | Jun 18 16:38 |
| schestowitz | IIRC an IBM thing | Jun 18 16:38 |
| MinceR | (that is, all the time) | Jun 18 16:38 |
| schestowitz | bastardised by MS | Jun 18 16:38 |
| MinceR | and then rebranded | Jun 18 16:38 |
| schestowitz | yes | Jun 18 16:38 |
| schestowitz | well known to some | Jun 18 16:38 |
| schestowitz | to others it's "Windows network" | Jun 18 16:38 |
| MinceR | "Common Internet File System" -- from the inventors of the Internet! :> | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | Or something along those lines | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | but they copied it | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | then "extended" it | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | then denies Samba documentation | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | and threatened them | Jun 18 16:39 |
| MinceR | (of course if you really expose it on the Internet, you deserve having your systems broken into) | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | with patent licence and all | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | but it's old news, let's now dwell on it | Jun 18 16:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: msdos partitioning scheme contains MBR and EBR. That is where you were reading wrong. | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | now there's wambacry | Jun 18 16:39 |
| schestowitz | sambacry | Jun 18 16:39 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i wasn't reading wrong | Jun 18 16:39 |
| MinceR | https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aWmwoo3_700b.jpg | Jun 18 16:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the fun part is if Microsoft supported NEC version of MBR in the MBR there would be 8 partitions instead of 4. | Jun 18 16:43 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's extremely fun | Jun 18 16:43 |
| MinceR | also extremely relevant | Jun 18 16:43 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: good one | Jun 18 16:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: please note that 8 partition version of MBR was in custom version of MS-Dos Microsoft made for NEC. So Microsoft has supported the most limited version of MBR they could get away with. | Jun 18 16:48 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/9QA7K6g.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/9QA7K6g ) | Jun 18 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | The correct way to drive a screw. | Jun 18 16:50 | |
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| XRevan86 | > MBR disks do not support more than four partitions on each disc | Jun 18 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | So? | Jun 18 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | They kinda do with extended partitions but this has limitations. | Jun 18 16:55 |
| MinceR | yes they do | Jun 18 16:56 |
| MinceR | but if users knew that, it would be more difficult to sell them on uefi bullshit | Jun 18 16:56 |
| MinceR | so we get m$ revisionism | Jun 18 16:56 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Windows does extended partitions like crazy. | Jun 18 16:56 |
| MinceR | it does everything like crazy :> | Jun 18 16:57 |
| XRevan86 | That MBR limitation is important when converting from GPT: extended partitions require a bit more space than the user probably gave to partitions in GPT | Jun 18 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | so when converting from GPT to MBR, more than 4 partitions creates an actual problem | Jun 18 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: GPT can live without UEFI, just not on Windows %) | Jun 18 16:59 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 18 16:59 |
| XRevan86 | That is, for the drive with Windows, for others nobody cares. | Jun 18 17:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Brushing time! | Jun 18 17:43 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/Htid6b8.jpg | Jun 18 18:10 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: For a moment thought it's Tsoy, but nope %) | Jun 18 18:30 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 18:31 |
| MinceR | who's Tsoy? | Jun 18 18:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://youtu.be/ACAvBBMb6BM | Jun 18 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Кино - Группа крови - YouTube | Jun 18 18:35 | |
| MinceR | that doesn't really clear it up | Jun 18 18:37 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Tsoi | Jun 18 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Viktor Tsoi - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0pq2 ] | Jun 18 18:38 | |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 18 18:38 |
| XRevan86 | He's an ironic figure, so seeing his portrait is something I'm expecting :) | Jun 18 18:39 |
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| DaemonFC | Richard Stallman supported Vorbis under the BSD license because he was worried that MP3 would be the done thing if Vorbis didn't gain traction. | Jun 18 23:01 |
| cubexyz | I think Fedora used to use runlevel 5 for full multi-user with X-based login | Jun 18 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | What happened was that MP3 as the the done thing anyway, Vorbis was largely ignored, and eventually the MP3 patents expired. | Jun 18 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | So the MP3 problem is gone now, but we had to wait an awfully long time for that. | Jun 18 23:01 |
| cubexyz | at least FC1 did, don't know about now | Jun 18 23:01 |
| cubexyz | there's something goofy going on with the text console on slack | Jun 18 23:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876561451519025153 | Jun 18 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How To Setup Open #Watcom On #WINE for Windows | Jun 18 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | programmers https://t.co/LXoJgTQomU (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 18 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 18 23:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Setup Open Watcom On WINE for Windows programmers | Tux Machines | Jun 18 23:06 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/kHJhMjW.gifv | Jun 18 23:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Goat eating chicks | Jun 18 23:15 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3 Up to MP3 2.0 has gone patent end. | Jun 18 23:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MP3 - Wikipedia | Jun 18 23:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876561635829305344 | Jun 18 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Latest round of backports PPA updates include Plasma | Jun 18 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.10.2 for Zesty 17.04 https://t.co/kNWvvrF0ky | Jun 18 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #plasma #gnu # | Jun 18 23:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest round of backports PPA updates include Plasma 5.10.2 for Zesty 17.04 | Tux Machines | Jun 18 23:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 18 23:16 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://www.audioblog.iis.fraunhofer.com/mp3-software-patents-licenses/ the licencing program has ended. As we don't know if all the data on 2.5 mp3 will be released. | Jun 18 23:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.audioblog.iis.fraunhofer.com | Alive and Kicking – mp3 Software, Patents and Licenses | Fraunhofer Audio Blog [ http://ur1.ca/r0qon ] | Jun 18 23:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876564201459912705 | Jun 18 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/oC2QbtmlHV | Jun 18 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #sony #android #linux #bixby | Jun 18 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #oneplus #xperia | Jun 18 23:17 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Latest round of backports PPA updates include Plasma...' | Jun 18 23:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 18 23:17 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: disgusting | Jun 18 23:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Smelly_Henry/status/876565155211087873 | Jun 18 23:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Smelly_Henry: @AnitaevaB @Mr_snores @lg63969 @Hitchycock @schestowitz @jeremycorbyn @Peston @theresa_may Still not owned by a Tory landlord. | Jun 18 23:20 | |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 18 23:21 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 18 23:27 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 18 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876566654779633665 | Jun 18 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: Security in Medicine, #WannaCry, | Jun 18 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #LetsEncrypt, Rooting a Printer https://t.co/NuX1dXRNe8 | Jun 18 23:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: Security in Medicine, WannaCry, Let’s Encrypt, Rooting a Printer | Tux Machines | Jun 18 23:28 | |
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| razielle_tzu | hi sebsebseb | Jun 18 23:28 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ok perfect you can probably help me :d | Jun 18 23:29 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: Security in Medicine, #WannaCry, #LetsEncrypt, Rooting...' | Jun 18 23:29 | |
| razielle_tzu | depends what with | Jun 18 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: a few issues with my MX 4 Ubuntu Edition now | Jun 18 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: so preparing to factory re set, and then re flash with ubports, may try out fly me os first since its meizu | Jun 18 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | anyway | Jun 18 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | videos off it | Jun 18 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | images off it | Jun 18 23:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sectest9 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: Security in Medicine, #WannaCry, #LetsEncrypt, Rooting...' | Jun 18 23:30 | |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: but one thing I want to back up myself copy is the texts first | Jun 18 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | which are stored in a database, but getting access to that database is the thing | Jun 18 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: looks lilke can try and copy the file on the phone into say downloads or documents, or use a ssh server and scp | Jun 18 23:31 |
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| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: how do I cp into a folder? | Jun 18 23:31 |
| razielle_tzu | i kinda know how to do that with android but not ubuntu, i told you this before | Jun 18 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: yes, but that shoudn't matter see here | Jun 18 23:32 |
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| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/342/how-do-i-or-would-i-a-few-things | Jun 18 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.ubports.com | How do I or would I a few things | UBports Forum [ http://ur1.ca/r0qqm ] | Jun 18 23:32 | |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: its just standard linuxey command stuff really now | Jun 18 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | if I can copy the hidden file over to say documents, I can get access from normal usb with mtp, I thinik that's what he meant in last comment | Jun 18 23:33 |
| razielle_tzu | that last comment gives you the exact command for copying the sqlite database, all you need to do is input the user and ip in place of the <user>@<ubuntu pc ip address> | Jun 18 23:34 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YDAl0yZyrA | Jun 18 23:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WHEN YOUR PARENTS ARE COOLER THAN YOU - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r0qqy ] | Jun 18 23:34 | |
| razielle_tzu | same with the person before telling you the exact rsync command for backing the whole image up | Jun 18 23:34 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: yes that's the next thing | Jun 18 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: but not going to risk losing my texts | Jun 18 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | I do that later on | Jun 18 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | rsync | Jun 18 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | there's guide for that even on wiki | Jun 18 23:35 |
| razielle_tzu | rsync just copies everything on the phone to a computer's hdd, it doesn't delete anything | Jun 18 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: I don't tend to use the cp command, but should be able to copp from one folder into another | Jun 18 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: oh yeah rsync used that for mageia isos in the past pre testing oens | Jun 18 23:36 |
| sebsebseb | but still I like the idea of being able to copy the texts seperatly | Jun 18 23:36 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: so I copy the file on the phone terminal, hopefuly that owrks, then need to put it into say documents folder on the phone | Jun 18 23:37 |
| sebsebseb | how to do that? | Jun 18 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2017/06/msg00017.html | Jun 18 23:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | Debian GNU/Hurd 2017 released! [ http://ur1.ca/r0qrk ] | Jun 18 23:37 | |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: send a copy of this file, to this folder, how ? | Jun 18 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876568101583810564 | Jun 18 23:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Programming: #GitLab, #Perl, #GDB. #GCC, #Go, and #C | Jun 18 23:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876570205601792000 | Jun 18 23:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tizen and #Android, #postmarketOS and #FDroid | Jun 18 23:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KW5Bkxv8ZK (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 18 23:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen and Android, postmarketOS and F-Droid | Tux Machines | Jun 18 23:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876570287881506817 | Jun 18 23:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu, #UBports, Quick Look at Ubuntu 17.10, | Jun 18 23:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #UbuntuStudio, and #elementaryOS https://t.co/UOJH6DyJi9 | Jun 18 23:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 18 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu, UBports, Quick Look at Ubuntu 17.10, Ubuntu Studio, and elementaryOS | Tux Machines | Jun 18 23:40 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Programming: #GitLab, #Perl, #GDB. #GCC, #Go, and #C...' | Jun 18 23:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tizen and #Android, #postmarketOS and #FDroid https://t.co/KW5Bkxv8ZK #gnu...' | Jun 18 23:42 | |
| razielle_tzu | the phone terminal command tells it to copy the db to a folder on your computer NOT a folder on the phone | Jun 18 23:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876570942658445314 | Jun 18 23:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Suggestions for Debian 10 (“Buster”), Reasons to Love | Jun 18 23:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian, and the New Release https://t.co/ccVcohN1cm | Jun 18 23:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian #gnu #linux #buster | Jun 18 23:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Suggestions for Debian 10 (“Buster”), Reasons to Love Debian, and the New Release | Tux Machines | Jun 18 23:43 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu, #UBports, Quick Look at Ubuntu 17.10, #UbuntuStudio,...' | Jun 18 23:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Suggestions for Debian 10 (“Buster”), Reasons to Love...' | Jun 18 23:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Comatose_D favourited '#Ubuntu, #UBports, Quick Look at Ubuntu 17.10, #UbuntuStudio,...' | Jun 18 23:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876571597808832512 | Jun 18 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SUSE Leftovers: #OBS. Confernece, #Vultr, #Kubic, and | Jun 18 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openSUSE #Tumbleweed https://t.co/1NCRNe2HJT | Jun 18 23:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Leftovers: OBS. Confernece, Vultr, Kubic, and openSUSE Tumbleweed | Tux Machines | Jun 18 23:46 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Suggestions for Debian 10 (“Buster”), Reasons to Love...' | Jun 18 23:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu, #UBports, Quick Look at Ubuntu 17.10, #UbuntuStudio,...' | Jun 18 23:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tizen and #Android, #postmarketOS and #FDroid https://t.co/KW5Bkxv8ZK #gnu...' | Jun 18 23:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen and Android, postmarketOS and F-Droid | Tux Machines | Jun 18 23:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876572969233002496 | Jun 18 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Distro Reviews: #PuppyLinux #Slacko, #ArcaOS, #Wifislax, | Jun 18 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #PeppermintOS, and #BlankOn https://t.co/pLLWznCrBp | Jun 18 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #os2 | Jun 18 23:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distro Reviews: Puppy Linux Slacko, ArcaOS, Wifislax, Peppermint, and BlankOn | Tux Machines | Jun 18 23:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Distro Reviews: #PuppyLinux #Slacko, #ArcaOS, #Wifislax, #PeppermintOS, and...' | Jun 18 23:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876573867879395328 | Jun 18 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE News: #Kubuntu 17.04, #Krita, #Kube, #Neon, | Jun 18 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeBSD, #Plasma 5.10, and #Solus | Jun 18 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OatsO7ppIm (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 18 23:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE News: Kubuntu 17.04, Krita, Kube, Neon, FreeBSD, Plasma 5.10, and Solus | Tux Machines | Jun 18 23:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876574222621040641 | Jun 18 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Xfce 4 Development Updates https://t.co/U9XIO07gDB | Jun 18 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #xfce4 #freesw | Jun 18 23:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfce 4 Development Updates | Tux Machines | Jun 18 23:56 | |
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| cubexyz | I guess it boils down to whether or not I can rmmod the video driver module | Jun 18 23:58 |
| cubexyz | so far I've never been able to do that, not that I can remember | Jun 18 23:58 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#KDE News: #Kubuntu 17.04, #Krita, #Kube, #Neon, #FreeBSD,...' | Jun 18 23:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#SUSE Leftovers: #OBS. Confernece, #Vultr, #Kubic, and #openSUSE...' | Jun 18 23:58 | |
| cubexyz | and there's alt-SysReq-r | Jun 18 23:59 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Distro Reviews: #PuppyLinux #Slacko, #ArcaOS, #Wifislax, #PeppermintOS, and...' | Jun 19 00:00 | |
| cubexyz | between slack and suspend/resume, exiting X and flipping alt-ctrl-f1 etc it seems to put the video card into a bad state | Jun 19 00:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876575252666515456 | Jun 19 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/e1WGxEY7mD | Jun 19 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 19 00:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #cli | Jun 19 00:02 |
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| cubexyz | obviously I'm not doing all that on the server, so I guess that leads to greater reliability | Jun 19 00:02 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE News: #Kubuntu 17.04, #Krita, #Kube, #Neon, #FreeBSD,...' | Jun 19 00:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Xfce 4 Development Updates https://t.co/U9XIO07gDB #gnu #linux #xfce4...' | Jun 19 00:03 | |
| cubexyz | on the vector box suspend/resume doesn't work and I don't have any problem going from X to framebuffer and back again | Jun 19 00:04 |
| cubexyz | although once radeonfb is loaded, that's it | Jun 19 00:04 |
| cubexyz | I can't rmmod it | Jun 19 00:04 |
| cubexyz | there's no radeonfb reset possible... it's "in use" at that point | Jun 19 00:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876576730886045696 | Jun 19 00:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #FOSS and #Sharing https://t.co/qmHy5hIRSe | Jun 19 00:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 19 00:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876577045899300864 | Jun 19 00:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Chromium, #Chrome, and #Mozilla #Firefox | Jun 19 00:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/V8CgxkuOuQ (www.tuxmachines.org) #www | Jun 19 00:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 19 00:08 |
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| cubexyz | of course, I could just leave X alone, but I like to experiment | Jun 19 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chromium, Chrome, and Mozilla Firefox | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: #FOSS and #Sharing https://t.co/qmHy5hIRSe #freesw' | Jun 19 00:08 | |
| cubexyz | on the G4 chromebook I don't seem to have any problems | Jun 19 00:08 |
| cubexyz | I can suspend/resume a hundred times, and it just works | Jun 19 00:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Chromium, #Chrome, and #Mozilla #Firefox https://t.co/V8CgxkuOuQ #www #freesw' | Jun 19 00:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876577885448019969 | Jun 19 00:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events and Talks: #LinuxFest NorthWest, #Inkscape | Jun 19 00:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Hackfest, #LinuxAudioConference, #FOSSASIA | Jun 19 00:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9bXPXrOiLY (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 19 00:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw | Jun 19 00:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Sottware News: #VLC, #QuodLibet, #Gerbera, #VirtualBox, | Jun 19 00:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeCAD, #Calibre, #GNOME, and #LibreOffice | Jun 19 00:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BVrzh3v2wb (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 19 00:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sottware News: VLC, Quod Libet, Gerbera, VirtualBox, FreeCAD, Calibre, GNOME, and LibreOffice | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Events and Talks: #LinuxFest NorthWest, #Inkscape #Hackfest, #LinuxAudioConference,...' | Jun 19 00:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Sottware News: #VLC, #QuodLibet, #Gerbera, #VirtualBox, #FreeCAD, #Calibre,...' | Jun 19 00:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876579451777286145 | Jun 19 00:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Devices: Raspberry Pi, Cars, and More | Jun 19 00:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VQTNrne6MQ (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi | Jun 19 00:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 19 00:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices: Raspberry Pi, Cars, and More | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876579840689942529 | Jun 19 00:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel: Graphics/Linux https://t.co/ywcbMdzv0z | Jun 19 00:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #kernel #graphics #mesa | Jun 19 00:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #rust #elixir #wayland | Jun 19 00:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Graphics/Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:18 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @KU5H4L retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux Devices: Raspberry Pi, Cars, and More https://t.co/VQTNrne6MQ...' | Jun 19 00:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876580475472687105 | Jun 19 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Recent #GNU #Linux #Podcasts https://t.co/TrzioITphH | Jun 19 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 19 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Recent GNU/Linux Podcasts | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #CoreOS and #OpenStack News https://t.co/aWPfnBoduO | Jun 19 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #server #container #gnu #linux | Jun 19 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 19 00:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CoreOS and OpenStack News | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Recent #GNU #Linux #Podcasts https://t.co/TrzioITphH #freesw' | Jun 19 00:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#CoreOS and #OpenStack News https://t.co/aWPfnBoduO #server #container #gnu...' | Jun 19 00:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StayBeauti_ful retweeted @tuxmachines: '#CoreOS and #OpenStack News https://t.co/aWPfnBoduO #server #container #gnu...' | Jun 19 00:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876581521154596871 | Jun 19 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop: Star #Labtop, Multiboot, Workstation Guide and | Jun 19 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Laptop Reviews https://t.co/tMxPtWqzSl | Jun 19 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop: Star Labtop, Multiboot, Workstation Guide and Laptop Reviews | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:25 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Psst, Kid? Heard you're looking for some science gifs - Album on Imgur | Jun 19 00:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876581734900539394 | Jun 19 00:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/mQaHtDGzDn | Jun 19 00:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #redhat | Jun 19 00:32 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'today's leftovers https://t.co/mQaHtDGzDn #gnu #linux #redhat' | Jun 19 00:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876583455840247808 | Jun 19 00:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 18/6/2017: New Debian Release, Catchup With a Lot | Jun 19 00:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of News https://t.co/NgWE767jtv (techrights.org) | Jun 19 00:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/6/2017: New Debian Release, Catchup With a Lot of News | Techrights | Jun 19 00:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sockeyes51_bot retweeted @tuxmachines: '#CoreOS and #OpenStack News https://t.co/aWPfnBoduO #server #container #gnu...' | Jun 19 00:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Desktop: Star #Labtop, Multiboot, Workstation Guide and Laptop...' | Jun 19 00:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876584157895434242 | Jun 19 00:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today’s leftovers https://t.co/4kNOatASXz | Jun 19 00:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #redhat | Jun 19 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:36 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today’s leftovers https://t.co/4kNOatASXz #gnu #linux #redhat' | Jun 19 00:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/876584631939862528 | Jun 19 00:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Distro Reviews: #PuppyLinux #Slacko, #ArcaOS, #Wifislax, | Jun 19 00:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec #PeppermintOS, and #BlankOn https://t.co/pLLWznCrBp | Jun 19 00:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #os2 | Jun 19 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distro Reviews: Puppy Linux Slacko, ArcaOS, Wifislax, Peppermint, and BlankOn | Tux Machines | Jun 19 00:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/876587098253537280 | Jun 19 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today’s leftovers https://t.co/4kNOatASXz | Jun 19 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #redhat | Jun 19 00:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/vee_liang/status/876592780637687808 | Jun 19 01:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Chakra #GNU #Linux Users Get #KDE #Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop | Jun 19 01:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @vee_liang Built Against Qt 5.9 https://t.co/hkjVuw3k7m | Jun 19 01:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop Built Against Qt 5.9 | Tux Machines | Jun 19 01:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/inkscape-krita-windows-store | Jun 19 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Two Popular Open-Source Apps Are Now Available in the Windows Store - OMG! Ubuntu! [ http://ur1.ca/r0r6g ] | Jun 19 01:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Krita costs $9.75 on the Windows store, but Microsoft gets a third of that. | Jun 19 01:27 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6cq83m/kde_plasma_511_will_have_builtin_night_color/ | Jun 19 08:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | KDE Plasma 5.11 will have built-in Night Color feature! : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r0tft ] | Jun 19 08:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Some people prop up a...' | Jun 19 08:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876709909211090944 | Jun 19 08:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 13 reasons why you need Linux in your life | Jun 19 08:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6ZwRqydU56 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 08:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 13 reasons why you need Linux in your life | Tux Machines | Jun 19 08:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '13 reasons why you need Linux in your...' | Jun 19 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks WaPo want its own sources in jail,...' | Jun 19 09:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/kbG8lYfDdO | Jun 19 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 19 09:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 19 09:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876721194740875264 | Jun 19 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/XgaixINgxW | Jun 19 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 19 09:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jun 19 09:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/kbG8lYfDdO #unix #gnu #linux' | Jun 19 09:40 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Software https://t.co/XgaixINgxW #freesw' | Jun 19 09:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/876722956508024832 | Jun 19 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos https://t.co/kbG8lYfDdO | Jun 19 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 19 10:05 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks And #trump - who became President because...' | Jun 19 10:05 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks And #trump - who became...' | Jun 19 10:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#TheSSS 22.0 Linux Server Out with Kernel 4.9.13,...' | Jun 19 10:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#DebianEdu 9 "Stretch" Released as a Complete GNU/Linux...' | Jun 19 10:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CraigMurrayOrg @wikileaks That's what one gets for speaking...' | Jun 19 10:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @CraigMurrayOrg @wikileaks That's what one gets...' | Jun 19 10:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#DebianEdu 9 "Stretch" Released as a Complete GNU/Linux...' | Jun 19 10:12 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Waste of police efforts, which are already...' | Jun 19 10:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876732569068457984 | Jun 19 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #Debian, #Ubuntu and Derivatives | Jun 19 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cEiTDgAbEK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 19 10:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian, Ubuntu and Derivatives | Tux Machines | Jun 19 10:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876733004147765248 | Jun 19 10:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora : Atomic/Cloud Test Day, AMA, and New Features | Jun 19 10:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1Y1BJkiBON (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 19 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #f26 #gnu #linux | Jun 19 10:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: Atomic/Cloud Test Day, AMA, and New Features | Tux Machines | Jun 19 10:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: #Debian, #Ubuntu and Derivatives https://t.co/cEiTDgAbEK' | Jun 19 10:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fedora : Atomic/Cloud Test Day, AMA, and New...' | Jun 19 10:54 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Jun 19 15:04 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 19 15:04 | |
| oiaohm | https://xkcd.com/730/ | Jun 19 15:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Circuit Diagram | Jun 19 15:29 | |
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| schestowitz | old | Jun 19 15:33 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: old | Jun 19 15:33 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: old | Jun 19 15:33 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: do you have those old logs in tact? | Jun 19 15:33 |
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| MinceR | i do | Jun 19 15:33 |
| schestowitz | thanks, as long as we don't lose them | Jun 19 15:33 |
| MinceR | but i haven't organized them fully | Jun 19 15:33 |
| MinceR | got sidetracked | Jun 19 15:33 |
| schestowitz | next year 10-year anniversary | Jun 19 15:33 |
| MinceR | http://img.pr0gramm.com/2017/06/19/bed2edc323aa0872.jpg | Jun 19 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876816228685422592 | Jun 19 15:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | That's random: OpenBSD adds more kernel security | Jun 19 15:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fJ4eN6bLRv (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 19 15:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | That's random: OpenBSD adds more kernel security | Tux Machines | Jun 19 15:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876816452048883712 | Jun 19 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How to install Linux on a Chromebook (and why you should) | Jun 19 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/QsxtTIiCeQ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gentoo #chromebook #nsa #prism | Jun 19 16:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to install Linux on a Chromebook (and why you should) | Tux Machines | Jun 19 16:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'That's random: OpenBSD adds more kernel security https://t.co/fJ4eN6bLRv' | Jun 19 16:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by How to install Linux on a Chromebook (and why you should) | Jun 19 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/QsxtTIiCeQ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gentoo #chromebook #nsa #prism | Jun 19 16:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876822639498731522 | Jun 19 16:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/X7PF1yRrb4 | Jun 19 16:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #lg #google #linux | Jun 19 16:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 19 16:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora & EFI mount problem = failed boot | Jun 19 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ElTgNTIplM (www.tuxmachines.org) #fedora | Jun 19 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 19 16:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora & EFI mount problem = failed boot | Tux Machines | Jun 19 16:26 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/X7PF1yRrb4 #android #lg #google #linux #oneplus' | Jun 19 16:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/876823416363503616 | Jun 19 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Fedora & EFI mount problem = failed boot | Jun 19 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/ElTgNTIplM (www.tuxmachines.org) #fedora | Jun 19 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 19 16:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876830032060186624 | Jun 19 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #LibreOffice Features Survey https://t.co/ENXJoT1MKk | Jun 19 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) needs more media traction. #odf | Jun 19 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #opendocument #tdf #freesw | Jun 19 16:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM Processors at Core of Xbox and Playstation 3 | Tux Machines | Jun 19 16:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876830405558755329 | Jun 19 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Chuwi #Lapbook and Other Laptops/Ultrabooks With #GNU / | Jun 19 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux Preloaded https://t.co/vOU3KmkkA8 | Jun 19 16:55 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LibreOffice Features Survey https://t.co/ENXJoT1MKk needs more media traction....' | Jun 19 16:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chuwi Lapbook and Other Laptops/Ultrabooks With GNU/Linux Preloaded | Tux Machines | Jun 19 16:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Chuwi #Lapbook and Other Laptops/Ultrabooks With #GNU /...' | Jun 19 16:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876831295606804480 | Jun 19 16:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: Skills, #BlueCat DNS Edge, #Lynis | Jun 19 16:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and #KaliLinux 2017.1 https://t.co/Pg9KmyeIw2 | Jun 19 16:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: Skills, BlueCat DNS Edge, Lynis and Kali Linux 2017.1 | Tux Machines | Jun 19 17:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876831871547707392 | Jun 19 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Audiocasts: #LateNightLinux, #LinuxAction News, and | Jun 19 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WorldWideWeb Sucks https://t.co/VIZRqECudt | Jun 19 17:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts: Late Night Linux, Linux Action News, and World Wide Web Sucks | Tux Machines | Jun 19 17:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: Skills, #BlueCat DNS Edge, #Lynis and...' | Jun 19 17:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Audiocasts: #LateNightLinux, #LinuxAction News, and #WorldWideWeb Sucks https://t.co/VIZRqECudt' | Jun 19 17:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876832641340903426 | Jun 19 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian Replaces #MySQL With #MariaDB, Other Release News | Jun 19 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5XtMySkA0N (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 17:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Replaces MySQL With MariaDB, Other Release News | Tux Machines | Jun 19 17:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876833751216553984 | Jun 19 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers News: #COTS and #Kubernetes | Jun 19 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4c9Hu4tg7J (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 19 17:09 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian Replaces #MySQL With #MariaDB, Other Release News...' | Jun 19 17:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers News: COTS and Kubernetes | Tux Machines | Jun 19 17:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Servers News: #COTS and #Kubernetes https://t.co/4c9Hu4tg7J #gnu #linux...' | Jun 19 17:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876835120640139265 | Jun 19 17:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/9Ht3P18b40 | Jun 19 17:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu #linux #unix | Jun 19 17:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 19 17:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876835748498071553 | Jun 19 17:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Xen, collaboration tools, and upcoming #FOSS events | Jun 19 17:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zZwWmUhrvR (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #vm | Jun 19 17:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #server #design | Jun 19 17:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xen, collaboration tools, and upcoming FOSS events | Tux Machines | Jun 19 17:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Xen, collaboration tools, and upcoming #FOSS events https://t.co/zZwWmUhrvR...' | Jun 19 17:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/9Ht3P18b40 #howto #gnu #linux #unix' | Jun 19 17:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876837593371082756 | Jun 19 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Development News: Getting Involved in #FOSS, Learning | Jun 19 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Git, Getting Started With #Python | Jun 19 17:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development News: Getting Involved in FOSS, Learning Git, Getting Started With Python | Tux Machines | Jun 19 17:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Could try ECHR too, no? At least...' | Jun 19 17:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Could try ECHR too, no?...' | Jun 19 17:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876838460010713088 | Jun 19 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Xfce Components in Active Development | Jun 19 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2btFR11c18 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 17:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfce Components in Active Development | Tux Machines | Jun 19 17:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Development News: Getting Involved in #FOSS, Learning #Git,...' | Jun 19 17:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Xfce Components in Active Development https://t.co/2btFR11c18 #gnu #linux' | Jun 19 17:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE News: #Brooklyn 0.1, #Wayland Session, #KIO, #Cantor | Jun 19 17:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ’s Qa#lculate https://t.co/EQgGbhRzxT | Jun 19 17:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 17:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE News: Brooklyn 0.1, Wayland Session, KIO, Cantor’s Qalculate | Tux Machines | Jun 19 17:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876839662463184904 | Jun 19 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kernel Space: New LTS, #Mesa 17.1.3, and More #Graphics | Jun 19 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/33CfRIZ691 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 19 17:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space: New LTS, Mesa 17.1.3, and More Graphics | Tux Machines | Jun 19 17:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE News: #Brooklyn 0.1, #Wayland Session, #KIO, #Cantor...' | Jun 19 17:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/876839845003505664 | Jun 19 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Kernel Space: New LTS, #Mesa 17.1.3, and More #Graphics | Jun 19 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/33CfRIZ691 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 19 17:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu #linux #unix | Jun 19 17:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @MyNameIsZK1234 2.4.25 & #MariaDB 10.2.6 https://t.co/Xky4vyneU2 | Jun 19 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 19 18:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TheSSS 22.0 Linux Server Out with Kernel 4.9.13, Apache 2.4.25 & MariaDB 10.2.6 | Tux Machines | Jun 19 18:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'd be interested to know what Red Hat does with their Enterprise Linux kernels. | Jun 19 19:43 |
| schestowitz | ask their NSA partners | Jun 19 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | They used to break out the patch sets and now they release the kernel source with patches already applied. | Jun 19 19:43 |
| schestowitz | maybe for added security they squeeze in things | Jun 19 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitzWell, if you compile the GPL'd source the same way they do, it turns into the same binary. | Jun 19 19:44 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/11/28/microsoft_update_servers_left_all_azure_rhel_instances_hackable/ | Jun 19 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Microsoft update servers left all Azure RHEL instances hackable • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/qohsg ] | Jun 19 19:44 | |
| DaemonFC | So it's not closed source, but it's hard to see exactly what they've done. | Jun 19 19:44 |
| schestowitz | yes, it is | Jun 19 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | They did it to frustrate Oracle from what I can tell. | Jun 19 19:45 |
| schestowitz | and sometimes the NSA bribes or blackmails engineers | Jun 19 19:45 |
| schestowitz | to insert what they will later call "oops" of "bug" | Jun 19 19:45 |
| schestowitz | we know this also because earlier this month Telegram's founder wrote something to that effect | Jun 19 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Well, it would have to be in the kernel source somewhere. | Jun 19 19:45 |
| MinceR | they did things to frustrate me as well, so fuck them | Jun 19 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | Without knowing where to look, it would be hard to spot. | Jun 19 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | And they could just say it was an accident if anyone noticed. | Jun 19 19:46 |
| schestowitz | speak to insider | Jun 19 19:46 |
| schestowitz | esp. build team | Jun 19 19:46 |
| schestowitz | they know how it's done | Jun 19 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | Well, after RHEL started doing this, Oracle Linux has had to ship two kernels. | Jun 19 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | You load one, it's RHEL compatible. You load the other, it's got all of Oracle's stuff. | Jun 19 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | It makes their distribution less valuable, because before they were taking the RHEL kernel and adding their own stuff to it and claiming that they had a RHEL compatible kernel with all of their stuff in it too. | Jun 19 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | Now if you boot into the Oracle kernel, it's impossible to say whether it's *really* 100% compatible with RHEL. | Jun 19 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle says that it is, but users have found out otherwise in some cases. | Jun 19 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure why people think that BtrFS is so great. If it's so great then why is it such a slug? | Jun 19 19:50 |
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| DaemonFC | It's not an answer to ZFS. That's why Ubuntu ships ZFS. | Jun 19 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | They package it wrong, but since when has that stopped them? :P | Jun 19 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | ZFS doesn't have huge memory requirements. Or CPU requirements, for that matter. I was running it on a laptop with 1 GB of RAM and a Sempron 3000 Mobile processor a long time ago as part of OpenSolaris. | Jun 19 19:52 |
| MinceR | only if you enable the features that make zfs worth using? :> | Jun 19 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't use deduplication, you're fine. | Jun 19 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | If you do, then big memory is nice. | Jun 19 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | Also, ZFS makes some assumptions about the system that Linux has a hard time meeting. | Jun 19 19:54 |
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| DaemonFC | So if you are going to run ZFS, it's better to do it on 64-bit Linux. | Jun 19 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | It uses virtual address space heavily, which is normal in Solaris, but discouraged by Linux. | Jun 19 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | So other than that.... I mean, on a decent computer, you should be okay. The biggest pitfall is that Ubuntu will do something dumb and cause your data to be trashed. | Jun 19 19:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 19 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Or your machine to become unbootable if you put / on ZFS. | Jun 19 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | That was never supported by Ubuntu. Some people figured out how to do it anyway and got burned bad by Ubuntu 17.04. | Jun 19 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | The solution is, if you REALLY want ZFS on Ubuntu, put your /boot and / on another file system. | Jun 19 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | You could do Ext4 /boot, XFS /, ZFS /home. | Jun 19 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | openSUSE does something similar, only it's BtrFS for /home. | Jun 19 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | I don't really want some exotic and barely tested file system running on a machine that I need to be stable though. | Jun 19 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | That's why I'm simply using Ext4 and leaving it alone. | Jun 19 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | BtrFS is never going to be "ready" if by "ready" you mean "performs well". | Jun 19 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's got a ton of features built into the file system, but most of those features are available in Ext4 either in the file system, at the vfs level, or in the kernel's LVM, RAID, and drive encryption facilities. | Jun 19 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | If you need them. | Jun 19 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | I have yet to see a benchmark where BtrFS is a well rounded file system that competes well with Ext4 or XFS. | Jun 19 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | It almost always beats them on things like sqlite, but loses badly on everything else. | Jun 19 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | I honestly think at this point that we're more likely to see an Ext5 than have BtrFS become the standard Linux file system. | Jun 19 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Ext4 is a really great file system. Even if you only mount your Ext3 file system with it and don't change the on disk format, you get a lot of wins. | Jun 19 20:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Ext2/3 do a lot of things very inefficiently, so just mounting them with the Ext4 driver (like Fedora does), you get a better block allocator and some other things. | Jun 19 20:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Where Ext3 might call the block allocator 100,000 different times to write one file and risk having the file get fragmented, Ext4 will use an extent, preallocate the space needed, and then call its multiblock allocator one time. | Jun 19 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | So I was thrilled to update to Ext4. In fact, I was using it when it was still not quite supported even by Fedora. | Jun 19 20:07 |
| MinceR | yeah, and if you lose power, your filesystem will be hosed | Jun 19 20:08 |
| MinceR | but oh look, it's so fest | Jun 19 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Actually, this was fixed. | Jun 19 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | it syncs the file system every 5 seconds or so. So it hasn't displayed the file loss behavior since around 2.6.28 iirc. | Jun 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ancient history. | Jun 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ted T'so was correct that it wasn't really the file system that was broken. | Jun 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Applications can always call sync, and they weren't always doing it and there was no reasonable expectation that all of them would be fixed. | Jun 19 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | Now that Ext4 comes along and forces one every now and then, app developers are going to continue to expect that and they will make even more broken apps. | Jun 19 20:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, only its default settings suck ass because of their stupid assumptions | Jun 19 20:12 |
| MinceR | and because ricing is more important than safety | Jun 19 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | Well, for lack of anything better. :P | Jun 19 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | JFS and ReiserFS are not an option. | Jun 19 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | They remain in the kernel because they still have some users, but they're not a good choice. | Jun 19 20:13 |
| MinceR | well, eventually it got to the point where if you're careful with your mount options, ext4 can actually work reliably | Jun 19 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | They also don't support SELinux file system labeling. | Jun 19 20:13 |
| MinceR | but i don't get why they had to go full retard after ext3 | Jun 19 20:13 |
| MinceR | http://direman.com/direman/comics/00001666.png | Jun 19 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | JFS can delay writing indefinitely so it's conceivable that any amount of data could be lost. | Jun 19 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | Enterprise file systems sometimes are designed like that on the assumption that you need high performance and you're going to have a battery backup on a system that uses it. | Jun 19 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | Also, there's one guy at IBM that works on JFS part-time. | Jun 19 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | That mostly means just making sure it doesn't break. | Jun 19 20:16 |
| MinceR | if performance is infinitely more important than reliability, you might as well just store your data in /dev/null | Jun 19 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | It has been in maintenance mode ever since it was merged. | Jun 19 20:16 |
| MinceR | it's really fast | Jun 19 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: If you have backups and there's a UPS then it's less of a problem. | Jun 19 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | JFS wasn't designed for your desktop computer. | Jun 19 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | There were actually two different JFS file systems that shared some common design. | Jun 19 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | The version in OS/2 and the version in AIX. | Jun 19 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | The version from AIX is what got GPL'd and merged into Linux. | Jun 19 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | When Serenity Systems couldn't get IBM to open source the JFS for OS/2 code, they ended up getting rid of it and porting the version from Linux to eComStation (OS/2) as an Installable File System. | Jun 19 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | IBM says that they won't ever be able to open source OS/2 even though they never plan to do anything with it again because much of the code is copyright Microsoft and Microsoft won't allow them to. | Jun 19 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | Much of the Microsoft OS/2 code ended up in Windows NT. | Jun 19 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | They had constant arguments between Microsoft and IBM. IBM would go and design something that was horribly bloated and then Microsoft would come by and optimize it, and IBM said that they were doing "negative work" because IBM considered development progress by number of source lines of code. | Jun 19 20:21 |
| MinceR | i heard a different story | Jun 19 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | That's when Bill Gates made the comment that judging progress by lines of code is like saying you made the best airplane because it's really heavy. | Jun 19 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | Or something like that. | Jun 19 20:22 |
| MinceR | where IBM worked properly and documented their code properly while m$ just hacked some shit up without documentation and immediately forgot how it worked | Jun 19 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I wouldn't go that far. | Jun 19 20:22 |
| MinceR | i'm not going to go to gates for software engineering advice | Jun 19 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | The leaked Windows 2000 source even shows that they aren't THAT bad. | Jun 19 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | But as time went on, they improved from where they were at with Win2K. | Jun 19 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | They moved app compatibility hacks out of the NT Kernel and into their own profiles. | Jun 19 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | That way they can just delete them later when the software in question is so old that nobody uses it | Jun 19 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | Without having to remember which source code file they put it in. | Jun 19 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | Linux has to implement some Windows-like behavior to run on PCs. Actually, a lot of Windows-like behavior, especially power management. | Jun 19 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | Device manufacturers frequently won't say how power management works, so the Windows driver *becomes* the documentation. :/ | Jun 19 20:26 |
| MinceR | they even had app compatibility hacks in their kernel | Jun 19 20:26 |
| MinceR | and they proudly announced that they had a microkernel. | Jun 19 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | The NT kernel itself is pretty small. | Jun 19 20:27 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/51EcTfM.jpg | Jun 19 20:27 |
| MinceR | oh, right | Jun 19 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | They're not counting things like pluggable APIs. | Jun 19 20:27 |
| MinceR | because not everything that runs in kernel mode is the kernel, right? | Jun 19 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | Which they use to reimplement Linux on top of Windows right now. | Jun 19 20:27 |
| MinceR | that's some weapons grade bullshitting right there | Jun 19 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It is a pun or something? | Jun 19 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | lxcore.sys and lxsys.sys I think. | Jun 19 20:27 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: "just let that sink in for a minute." | Jun 19 20:28 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: or "let that sink in" or something like that | Jun 19 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | They said they have a clean room implementation of Linux services. | Jun 19 20:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Oh %) | Jun 19 20:28 |
| MinceR | by the microsoft definition, every kernel is a microkernel | Jun 19 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | There was at least one case where they were returning error messages where the real Linux kernel doesn't. | Jun 19 20:28 |
| MinceR | you just point to a single instruction somewhere and claim "this is the kernel, the rest isn't" | Jun 19 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | They said they decided to keep the behavior because it wasn't breaking anything that they knew of. | Jun 19 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | Someone replied that the Microsoft behavior actually stops metasploit modules from being loaded. | Jun 19 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 19 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if there's any desirable software that it breaks. | Jun 19 20:29 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 20:29 |
| MinceR | presumably someone wrote metasploit not to use it | Jun 19 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I think the Microsoft membership on the Linux Foundation is a bribe so they get away with "Windows Subsystem for Linux" without being sued for trademark infringement. | Jun 19 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | It's actually NOT Linux at any point in the stack, but they pay the Linux Foundation $500,000 a year and they ignore it. | Jun 19 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Even more hilarious, Microsoft calls the rest of the stack "userspace Linux" when it's actually mostly GNU. | Jun 19 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: GNU? What's that? | Jun 19 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Linux is a kernel. Userspace Linux? What's that? | Jun 19 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | Ain't know no GNU | Jun 19 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | it's GPLv3, evil I tell ya | Jun 19 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | A more appropriate name might be GNU/Windows. | Jun 19 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | GNU is really not what Microsoft and Apple would like to work with. | Jun 19 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86: They do ship a LOT of software under the GPLv3 for "WSL". | Jun 19 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | Including Bash.... | Jun 19 20:33 |
| cubexyz | tivoization exists | Jun 19 20:33 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: that must be why one of their patsies is working on forcing systemd down our throats | Jun 19 20:33 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Yeah, they wouldn't if they could I bet though :) | Jun 19 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | Well, they have to have it or the software won't run, but they HATE GNU and the GPL, expecially version 3. | Jun 19 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | As long as they comply with the license, there's not much the FSF could do about it. | Jun 19 20:34 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: That's my point, yes. | Jun 19 20:34 |
| MinceR | they've put every call on dbus so the GPL doesn't force library users to be free software | Jun 19 20:34 |
| XRevan86 | So why would they mention GNU in any way if they can not to. | Jun 19 20:34 |
| MinceR | there doesn't seem to be much the FSF _wants_ to do about it | Jun 19 20:34 |
| MinceR | do they mention GNU? | Jun 19 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Not on any of the Microsoft websites I've read. They call the GNU software "userspace Linux". | Jun 19 20:35 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 20:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Why is that a problem? GPL for a library is pretty restrictive. | Jun 19 20:35 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: because it is not what the author intended | Jun 19 20:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What author? | Jun 19 20:36 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: whoever wrote the library | Jun 19 20:37 |
| XRevan86 | I think I'm missing the point :) | Jun 19 20:37 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If the library is designed in a way it only can be linked, there you have it. | Jun 19 20:37 |
| MinceR | http://www.businessinsider.com/photoshop-banknote-editing-restriction-2015-2 | Jun 19 20:37 |
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| XRevan86 | you can't workaround author's intent like that | Jun 19 20:37 |
| MinceR | sure you can | Jun 19 20:38 |
| MinceR | put a stub in there that converts the call interface to IPC or a network interface, and you're done | Jun 19 20:38 |
| MinceR | guess what poettering is doing to all the interfaces he touches... | Jun 19 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, I see. | Jun 19 20:39 |
| XRevan86 | One could do that without any help though then… | Jun 19 20:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: System's "API" is not something that should enforce GPL though. | Jun 19 20:40 |
| MinceR | it is something that should not even exist | Jun 19 20:40 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: APIs shouldn't exist? o_0 | Jun 19 20:41 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: moving hostname and date to a dbus-dependent interface is a horribly stupid idea | Jun 19 20:41 |
| MinceR | in part because dbus itself sucks | Jun 19 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | An application doesn't become a derived work of the kernel simply for running on the OS in userspace. | Jun 19 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | Torvalds has said this many, many times. | Jun 19 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | You become a derived work of the kernel when you run as part of the kernel. | Jun 19 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | And for sure if you use any of the symbols marked only for GPL modules. | Jun 19 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, Nvidia does this anyway and nobody stops them. | Jun 19 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | They lie and say they're a GPL module and gain access to the symbols and then load their shitty driver. | Jun 19 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | People should really just buy Radeon and Intel graphics that have Free Software drivers throughout the stack. (Except for a little device microcode.) | Jun 19 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | Not only does it work and stay working without fucking around with some out of tree module, you can even keep Secure Boot on if you want, and there are WAY fewer bugs with the running system. | Jun 19 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | I've used Nvidia before, but only in the case when there was no way to really do Free drivers on Linux and run apps that needed high performance rendering. | Jun 19 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | The driver wasn't a pleasant experience. | Jun 19 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | After you install proprietary drivers, you always get more system crashes. | Jun 19 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | They don't have to follow kernel cor X.org coding standards because they aren't part of the kernel or X.org. So they cut corners and abuse every resource they can find and make your system unstable and vulnerable to attacks that wouldn't work on a system with Free drivers. | Jun 19 20:53 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/uTerI | Jun 19 20:57 |
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| MinceR | 19 214757 < DaemonFC> An application doesn't become a derived work of the kernel simply for running on the OS in userspace. | Jun 19 20:57 |
| MinceR | who said it did? | Jun 19 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | You said dbus was an end run around the GPL. | Jun 19 21:00 |
| MinceR | where did i mention the kernel? | Jun 19 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | Hmmm, maybe I misunderstood. | Jun 19 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure that bypassing linking by communicating over dbus to avoid the GPL would hold up in court. | Jun 19 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | It might, but you're in uncharted territory there. | Jun 19 21:02 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Nvidia gets around it by a condition in GPL called derived. The binary blob in Nvidia driver does not use a single header or structure from the Linux kernel. The wrapper of the nvidia driver is GPL and open source. The wrapper is using headers from the blob. So this way GPL wrapper driver is derived from the blob not the blob derived from GPL work. | Jun 19 23:05 |
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| DaemonFC | https://lwn.net/Articles/725657/ | Jun 20 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.11.6 [LWN.net] | Jun 20 00:00 | |
| DaemonFC | Important update for Intel graphics users. Eight bugs in i915 fixed. | Jun 20 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | xfs: fix spurious spin_is_locked() assert failures on non-smp kernels | Jun 20 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | Someone had CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK on on a non-smp kernel? | Jun 20 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 20 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | Well, nice catch anyway. Wow. | Jun 20 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | That's from the Linux 4.12-rc6 notes. | Jun 20 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer1 min · Chicago · The Supreme Court issued two important rulings today:1. The US federal government can't deny you a trademark solely because someone might be offended by it.2. Sex offenders can't be banned from social media. (Unanimous)The government argued in the first case that trademarks are government speech. Justice Alito, who I often disagree with, issued the court's written opinion, and it was fantastic. It e | Jun 20 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | nded with "Was the government trying to warn people of an impending cataclysmic event when it allowed the 'End Times Ministries' trademark?". | Jun 20 00:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: non smp kernel would be something like a single core cpu nas. | Jun 20 00:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I know a few of them one was using zfs on raid 0 just to be super scary. | Jun 20 00:30 |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable > Microsoft Exec Urges Linux Developers To Try Windows 10 | Jun 20 01:01 |
| cubexyz | ba-hahaha | Jun 20 01:01 |
| cubexyz | how about no? | Jun 20 01:01 |
| cubexyz | extinguish attempt: failed | Jun 20 01:03 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 20 08:23 | |
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| schestowitz | finally back | Jun 20 11:11 |
| schestowitz | f*ing hardware failure | Jun 20 11:11 |
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| __martin__ | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-microsoft-accenture-digitalid-idUSKBN19A22B | Jun 20 12:41 |
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| schestowitz | meh | Jun 20 12:43 |
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| schestowitz | > Here's today's batch. We're ramping up for Midsummer. | Jun 20 15:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 20 15:15 |
| schestowitz | > About censorship or "filtering", I wish Falkvinge or an active PP member | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > would write (again) about /why/ Sweden has had the Freedom of | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > Information baked into its very constitution since 1766. Basically, | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > prior to that one political group held the government under their power | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > and used it their control choke off access as much as possible to | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > opponents. When a different bloc gained power they redid the | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > constitution to include what powers they would accept if their opponents | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > regained power. | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > People should have re-learned that same lesson regarding Obama and his | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > surveillance programmes. In regards to the Internet, it is more | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > critical and people should be thinking further ahead than just the | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > current political constellation and their chief opponents gain power. | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > Control of the Internet is amounts to the ability to control or prohibit | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > peaceable assembly. Yet sheeple act as if they think that somehow just | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > their own communications, and only their communications, will be exempt | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > from the restrictions they plan to put in place. History, new and old, | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > has shown them to be wrong. | Jun 20 15:16 |
| schestowitz | You really ought to write short blog posts about those things as they deserve a wider audience, even is publicised anonymously. | Jun 20 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877170282510901249 | Jun 20 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux Games: #WildTerra Online, Paradigm, | Jun 20 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GemstoneKeeper, and #ScrapGarden https://t.co/9bTHXWk9gu | Jun 20 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gaming | Jun 20 15:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Wild Terra Online, Paradigm, Gemstone Keeper, and Scrap Garden | Tux Machines | Jun 20 15:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#gnu #linux Games: #WildTerra Online, Paradigm, #GemstoneKeeper, and...' | Jun 20 15:26 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.upguard.com/breaches/the-rnc-files | Jun 20 15:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.upguard.com | The RNC Files: Inside the Largest US Voter Data Leak [ http://ur1.ca/r12jk ] | Jun 20 15:49 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @UBports favourited '#UBports is keeping the #UbuntuPhone dream alive (through...' | Jun 20 16:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877181895225856000 | Jun 20 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | News and e-press echos after #EUPL v1.2 publication | Jun 20 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nKYdg9XXoG (www.tuxmachines.org) #gpl | Jun 20 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gplv3 #eu #europe | Jun 20 16:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | News and e-press echos after EUPL v1.2 publication | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/877183596762714113 | Jun 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by News and e-press echos after #EUPL v1.2 publication | Jun 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/nKYdg9XXoG (www.tuxmachines.org) #gpl | Jun 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gplv3 #eu #europe | Jun 20 16:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877186692423307264 | Jun 20 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform | Jun 20 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RFX74guy5q (www.tuxmachines.org) #container | Jun 20 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #freesw #server | Jun 20 16:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform https://t.co/RFX74guy5q #container #gnu #linux...' | Jun 20 16:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877188489590296576 | Jun 20 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical Outs Major #Security Updates for All Supported | Jun 20 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu Linux Releases https://t.co/AuVimpDC5t | Jun 20 16:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877188842129960962 | Jun 20 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve | Jun 20 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi 3 Boot Support https://t.co/EJd2EZCOuD | Jun 20 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix #netbsd #raspi | Jun 20 16:38 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Canonical Outs Major #Security Updates for All Supported...' | Jun 20 16:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve...' | Jun 20 16:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Outs Major Security Updates for All Supported Ubuntu Linux Releases | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve Raspberry Pi 3 Boot Support | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @io_r_us retweeted @tuxmachines: 'NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve...' | Jun 20 16:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Canonical Outs Major #Security Updates for All Supported...' | Jun 20 16:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877189591278682112 | Jun 20 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Q.bo One open source robot launches for DIYers | Jun 20 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bWzI5N5N8C (www.tuxmachines.org) #qbo | Jun 20 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #robotics #raspi #linux #arduino #gnu #freesw | Jun 20 16:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q.bo One open source robot launches for DIYers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877190283066314753 | Jun 20 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Firefox on #Android https://t.co/IpM2QAd0KL | Jun 20 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #mozilla #google #freesw #www | Jun 20 16:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox on Android | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @PartnerEng favourited '#SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform https://t.co/RFX74guy5q #container #gnu #linux...' | Jun 20 16:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE release Container-as-a-Service Platform | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Q.bo One open source robot launches for DIYers...' | Jun 20 16:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Firefox on #Android https://t.co/IpM2QAd0KL #mozilla #google #freesw #www' | Jun 20 16:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877191760019156992 | Jun 20 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Androidx86 Fork Lets Users Install and Run #Android | Jun 20 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7.1.2 #Nougat on Their PCs https://t.co/npmO3rtjuE | Jun 20 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspand #linux #raspi | Jun 20 16:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 Fork Lets Users Install and Run Android 7.1.2 Nougat on Their PCs | Tux Machines | Jun 20 16:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Androidx86 Fork Lets Users Install and Run #Android...' | Jun 20 16:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877199033521106944 | Jun 20 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #FOSS and #Sharing https://t.co/J4Waukzhxa | Jun 20 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #univa #dgplug | Jun 20 17:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jun 20 17:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877199860784652289 | Jun 20 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/TaR3fg4sXs | Jun 20 17:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 17:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: #FOSS and #Sharing https://t.co/J4Waukzhxa #freesw #univa #dgplug' | Jun 20 17:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/TaR3fg4sXs' | Jun 20 17:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877200847087841280 | Jun 20 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 20/6/2017: Chuwi Lapbook, Linux 4.12 RC6, Mesa | Jun 20 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 17.1.3 https://t.co/pVZIKo4ohT (techrights.org) | Jun 20 17:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/6/2017: Chuwi Lapbook, Linux 4.12 RC6, Mesa 17.1.3 | Techrights | Jun 20 17:26 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/final-wishes | Jun 20 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Final Wishes | Jun 20 17:37 | |
| MinceR | https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-putin-decries-excessive-demonization-stalin/28559464.html | Jun 20 17:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rferl.org | Putin Accuses Russia's Foes Of 'Excessive Demonization' Of Stalin | Jun 20 17:52 | |
| schestowitz | Would Stalin accuse the US of demonising Putler? | Jun 20 18:01 |
| MinceR | apparently so | Jun 20 18:04 |
| MinceR | his butt hurts because his great idol is "excessively" demonized | Jun 20 18:04 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure how the georgian butcher can be "excessively" demonized, or demonized at all | Jun 20 18:04 |
| MinceR | one of the most horrible humans to ever live | Jun 20 18:04 |
| MinceR | and that's quite the achievement | Jun 20 18:05 |
| schestowitz | worse than Hitler? | Jun 20 18:08 |
| schestowitz | I wonder how the West thought at the time | Jun 20 18:08 |
| schestowitz | not after the war was over and history was updated | Jun 20 18:08 |
| schestowitz | my understanding is that the West was more worried about the Bolsheviks and before the wars Hitler was viewed more as an ally against Communism | Jun 20 18:09 |
| MinceR | not sure | Jun 20 18:09 |
| MinceR | well, the west loved the russians for a while | Jun 20 18:10 |
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| MinceR | they only thought of them as allies against the germans and the japanese | Jun 20 18:10 |
| MinceR | took them way too long that they were the same shit in different color | Jun 20 18:10 |
| MinceR | and even then they didn't care | Jun 20 18:10 |
| MinceR | nobody helped hungarians in 1956, for example | Jun 20 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/chandanghodela/status/877211977768091648 | Jun 20 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security Leftovers https://t.co/xGX9fg4WaZ | Jun 20 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @chandanghodela (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi #wannacry #microsoft | Jun 20 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #windows #nhs #ubuntu #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 20 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 18:11 | |
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| MinceR | but then again, maybe it would have been a waste of effort anyway | Jun 20 18:11 |
| MinceR | considering what hungarians did in 2010 to the freedom that fell in their laps | Jun 20 18:11 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement | Jun 20 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Munich Agreement - Wikipedia | Jun 20 18:12 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/kMKS6Pj.jpg | Jun 20 18:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Apple Rumor Site to Shut Down in Settlement - The New York Times | Jun 20 18:17 | |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact | Jun 20 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrve ] | Jun 20 18:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security Leftovers https://t.co/W0xwewavBS | Jun 20 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @chandanghodela (www.tuxmachines.org) #wannacry #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 20 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #windows #microsoft #container #synology | Jun 20 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 20 18:38 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks What a waste of money on lawyers...' | Jun 20 18:49 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/xiBRd | Jun 20 18:49 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan FarmerJust now · Apple will force 2FA on iCloud accounts. How many years since The Fappening? | Jun 20 18:51 |
| MinceR | forcing is the only thing they care to do | Jun 20 18:53 |
| MinceR | just like microsoft and red hat | Jun 20 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan FarmerJust now · Apple computers targeted by spyware and ransomware according to the BBC.Also bitcoin miners. An individual Mac isn't very powerful, but when you have an entire botnet full of them, you can make some serious scratch while the users just wonder why their stupid Mac is burning up hot and slower than normal. | Jun 20 18:54 |
| MinceR | they should have got used to it | Jun 20 18:55 |
| MinceR | crApple isn't exactly good at cooling systems | Jun 20 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Gnome uses Webkit2 now. I've set up SELinux so that most things on my computer can't use the ptrace() system call. | Jun 20 18:55 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/IdozD | Jun 20 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My brother died - Album on Imgur | Jun 20 18:55 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i suspect Blink would be better | Jun 20 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose that means that if a Web Content process had a malicious script escape the sandbox that it couldn't attach to another Web Content process and read its memory or modify it. | Jun 20 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Apparently, Apple has a new file system | Jun 20 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | APFS | Jun 20 18:58 |
| MinceR | ooh | Jun 20 18:58 |
| MinceR | oh, i saw an article about it | Jun 20 18:59 |
| MinceR | https://eclecticlight.co/2017/04/06/apfs-is-currently-unusable-with-most-non-english-languages/ | Jun 20 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eclecticlight.co | APFS is currently unusable with most non-English languages – The Eclectic Light Company [ http://ur1.ca/r13we ] | Jun 20 18:59 | |
| DaemonFC | It sounded like ZFS, but not as good. | Jun 20 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | Apple enabled ZFS on earlier Beta builds of OS X but then yanked it back out, to the dismay of people who had already installed OS X to it. | Jun 20 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | Well, on one hand, it serves them right for enabling an experiment on a production system... :) | Jun 20 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | Apple never said it was going to land in a release version of OS X. | Jun 20 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that Linux could do ZFS right if anyone cared enough to, but it's never going to be mainlined. | Jun 20 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu will have to carry it by itself. | Jun 20 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | For all the shit they've just taken on, they might as well have integrated Reiser4. | Jun 20 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | At least it was designed for Linux. | Jun 20 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | At least it is under the GPL. | Jun 20 19:02 |
| MinceR | "production system" running macos? | Jun 20 19:02 |
| MinceR | "production system" on crApple hardware? | Jun 20 19:03 |
| MinceR | they deserve everything they get | Jun 20 19:03 |
| MinceR | fucking morons | Jun 20 19:03 |
| MinceR | Obstacle made sure to license ZFS so that it can't be legally integrated into Linux | Jun 20 19:03 |
| MinceR | so fuck Obstacle and fuck ZFS | Jun 20 19:03 |
| MinceR | with a rusty, poisoned chainsaw | Jun 20 19:04 |
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| DaemonFC | I wonder where I'd file a bug for "Gnome Web uses an insane amount of power, melts my laptop on sites like Facebook and Youtube.". | Jun 20 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | Using Firefox, my laptop is sitting at 7-8 watts and using Gnome Web on the same sites, it's closer to 20. | Jun 20 19:09 |
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| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1463390 | Jun 20 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1463390 – Gnome Web uses an insane amount of power, melts my laptop on sites like Facebook and Youtube. | Jun 20 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | I'm furious at Firefox | Jun 20 19:24 |
| schestowitz | takes like a gig or more of RAM sometimes | Jun 20 19:24 |
| schestowitz | for two tabs | Jun 20 19:24 |
| schestowitz | goes nuts | Jun 20 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | How reproducible: Open Gnome Web and do stuff on Facebook (especially try to make a new post) and/or watch Youtube videos. Actual results: Computer grinds to a near halt. Using power. Using power. Using power. Expected results: Gnome Web is fast and doesn't melt the laptop. Additional: I do have intel-va support installed from RPM Fusion. | Jun 20 19:24 |
| schestowitz | sometimes crashes | Jun 20 19:24 |
| schestowitz | I found https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/firefox-will-add-a-settings-section-that-lets-you-control-performance-/ | Jun 20 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Firefox Will Add a Settings Section That Lets You Control "Performance" [ http://ur1.ca/r140a ] | Jun 20 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | I can't install brave, their instructions don't work | Jun 20 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Uber is almost as bad as Airbnb. | Jun 20 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | These landlords find out that tourists will pay more than renters and turn their units into Airbnb rentals instead. | Jun 20 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Fewer apartments on the market. Rents go way up. | Jun 20 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Airbnb is pretty much unregulated, so it was discovered that people with names that made them sound like they might be black were 16% less likely to be approved for an Airbnb rental. | Jun 20 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | Also, there's no government inspections, so you don't know that the unit will have a working fire alarm, CO2 detector, sprinklers, etc. | Jun 20 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | eerrr, Carbon monoxide that is. | Jun 20 19:27 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/31v1yg/why_is_ff_such_a_memory_hog/ | Jun 20 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why is FF such a memory hog? : firefox [ http://ur1.ca/r140p ] | Jun 20 19:27 | |
| DaemonFC | At least 9 people in the US have been poisoned by carbon monoxide in Airbnb rentals, and 1 died. | Jun 20 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | But we won't ever know how many for sure because Airbnb suppresses the information. | Jun 20 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | It's just a really nasty thing. | Jun 20 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | And people who rent their units on it are in danger too. | Jun 20 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | In one case, a renter stuffed a bunch of things down the toilet and did over $10,000 worth of damage, but Airbnb only paid the owner $78. | Jun 20 19:28 |
| schestowitz | "Play DRM content' | Jun 20 19:28 |
| schestowitz | in settings | Jun 20 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | In another case, an Airbnb renter became a squatter and it took four months to evict them. | Jun 20 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I don't use Airbnb. I find a way to stay with family/friends or I get a cheap-ish room at a reputable motel chain. | Jun 20 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | Not a roach motel, but something for like business travelers who don't want to spend a ton of money. | Jun 20 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | Super 8 has a policy where if you check in after 4 AM they don't count the first night, so I just drive and check in at Super 8 after 4 AM, sleep, and get my second night thrown in. | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | it's a US thing | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | open firefox | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | no tabs | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | just blank tab | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | 400mb of RAM | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | WTH? | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | I want to throw it to the dogs | Jun 20 19:31 |
| schestowitz | but what to replace it with? rekonq again? | Jun 20 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Rekonq is abandoned. | Jun 20 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Qupzilla maybe. | Jun 20 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You can uncheck "Play DRM Content" and it won't download Widevine. | Jun 20 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora default. | Jun 20 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | Or you could get the no EME build that doesn't even support Widevine. | Jun 20 19:33 |
| schestowitz | default here too | Jun 20 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 20 19:33 |
| schestowitz | what's Qupzilla based on? | Jun 20 19:33 |
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| schestowitz | sounds like qt and moz | Jun 20 19:33 |
| MinceR | iirc it's crashkit on qt | Jun 20 19:35 |
| MinceR | (crashkit is also known as webkit) | Jun 20 19:35 |
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| schestowitz | meh | Jun 20 19:44 |
| schestowitz | rekonq gets blank-ish pages from diaspora | Jun 20 19:44 |
| MinceR | welcome to the "modern" web | Jun 20 19:45 |
| MinceR | it ain't done until it only works on chrome (and maybe some crApple shit) | Jun 20 19:45 |
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| schestowitz | i thought maybe js is to blame | Jun 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | it works with moz-type browsers | Jun 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | gecko and whatnot | Jun 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | this is webkit based | Jun 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | still fails | Jun 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | doesn't help when I pretend to be other browsers | Jun 20 19:50 |
| schestowitz | "Diaspora doesn't support your version of Internet Explorer." | Jun 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jun 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | even as wget or googlebot I ge f* all | Jun 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | what an awful design for a site | Jun 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | barely accessible text | Jun 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | sudo apt-get install qupzilla | Jun 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | will try this one next | Jun 20 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | qupzilla works OK with joindispora | Jun 20 19:55 |
| schestowitz | unlike rekonq | Jun 20 19:55 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 20 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that there's a race between authenticating to the server and entering chatrooms. If you enter #fedora too quickly, you get #fedora-unregistered but Pidgin joins in the order you list rooms, so I put #fedora last. | Jun 20 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Yeah, Rekonq never really panned out too much. | Jun 20 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Qupzilla has better adblocking too. | Jun 20 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Midori is pretty decent too, if you don't mind a dependency on WebkitGTK. | Jun 20 19:56 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... | Jun 20 19:56 |
| schestowitz | one tab, 15% of my RAM | Jun 20 19:56 |
| schestowitz | not liking this so far | Jun 20 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | KDE has GTK integration theme though, and Gnome has Qt integration now. | Jun 20 19:56 |
| schestowitz | I use to run firefox on a laptop with 32 mb or RAM | Jun 20 19:56 |
| schestowitz | firefox 3 or 1.5 | Jun 20 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I used to run the entire Mozilla Suite with 128 MB of RAM on my Windows 98 PC. | Jun 20 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | Before tabs existed. | Jun 20 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | With memory left to spare. | Jun 20 19:57 |
| schestowitz | 7 tabs, 20% of my ram | Jun 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | 400mb | Jun 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | not good, either | Jun 20 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't run a normal Windows 98 though. I had a utility that stripped Internet Explorer and a bunch of other crap out of the OS, removed Trident, and installed a Windows 95 OSR 2 shell patched to say Windows 98. | Jun 20 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | I found a zip file online with the three shell files that I needed. | Jun 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Thunderbird with JS on can work on, in thunderbrowse, but it's limited, can't write blog posts lkike that | Jun 20 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | It used a lot less RAM without the bloated Windows 98 shell. | Jun 20 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | It also didn't leak as much. | Jun 20 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | I actually kept it up and running for months at a time. | Jun 20 19:59 |
| schestowitz | maybe the rendering engines became the cause of bloat? | Jun 20 19:59 |
| schestowitz | not JS, I'm not even running it | Jun 20 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | IE pretty much sandbagged Windows. | Jun 20 19:59 |
| schestowitz | and stupid malloc heaps | Jun 20 19:59 |
| MinceR | the "standard" itself was bloated too | Jun 20 19:59 |
| MinceR | dooming all complete implementations | Jun 20 19:59 |
| schestowitz | no other explanation for browser with nothing in it hoarding so much ram | Jun 20 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | masturbating moneys with their "speed" | Jun 20 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: There's really only a couple of rendering engines that are relevant now. Webkit and Gecko. | Jun 20 20:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Trident/EdgeHTML are down to single digits iirc. | Jun 20 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | They're getting so low that I wouldn't be surprised if people stop bothering to test with them at some point. | Jun 20 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | NVidia serves a page with a picture of a rock if you visit in old versions of IE and it says "IE 6? You can't be serious.". | Jun 20 20:01 |
| schestowitz | i guess the onlu solution now it trying to make Firefox less of a piece of s* | Jun 20 20:01 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/K3zkh0K.jpg | Jun 20 20:01 |
| schestowitz | started empty session of firefox | Jun 20 20:01 |
| MinceR | Ubuntu Masturbating Monkey? | Jun 20 20:02 |
| schestowitz | took over 10 seconds | Jun 20 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Firefox is really the only Linux browser that people actually test in. | Jun 20 20:02 |
| schestowitz | 400mb, then 300 of RAM | Jun 20 20:02 |
| schestowitz | for one blank tab | Jun 20 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | If it breaks in Gnome Web, Midori, Qupzilla, they don't care. | Jun 20 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The multiprocess Firefox will use more. | Jun 20 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | The advantage is you get it all back when you close a tab. | Jun 20 20:02 |
| MinceR | and you'll get all sorts of new malfeatures | Jun 20 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox keeps getting bigger and bigger until you have to close and reopen the entire browser as single-process. | Jun 20 20:03 |
| MinceR | new proprietary blobs, new drm, new bugs, new limitations | Jun 20 20:03 |
| MinceR | i wonder when will failfox depend on systemd on Linux | Jun 20 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The way most people ran Firefox, just Widevine is an improvement over Flash. | Jun 20 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | Flash was copying a ton of features, poorly, and with millions of bugs, that the browser was already capable of. | Jun 20 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | It became an overglorified video player because sites demanded it for its DRM. | Jun 20 20:05 |
| MinceR | what's widevine? | Jun 20 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: A cross platform DRM from Google. | Jun 20 20:05 |
| MinceR | ain't it fucking precious | Jun 20 20:05 |
| MinceR | from fucking google | Jun 20 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | To be used as a Content Decryption Module. | Jun 20 20:05 |
| MinceR | "do no evil", my ass | Jun 20 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's hilariously weak too. | Jun 20 20:05 |
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| MinceR | i'm surprised humans haven't gone extinct yet | Jun 20 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | People keep dumping entire seasons of Netflix in HD that were "protected" with Widevine. | Jun 20 20:06 |
| MinceR | with such a lack of sense and self-destructive tendencies and urges | Jun 20 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | Google is pretty terrible really. | Jun 20 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome is one of the most misbehaved pieces of software I've ever seen. | Jun 20 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | It's probably #3 for worst behaved software from a major company. | Jun 20 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | Right behind Internet Explorer and iTunes. | Jun 20 20:07 |
| MinceR | sure, but it's a web browser | Jun 20 20:07 |
| MinceR | a full-featured one at that | Jun 20 20:07 |
| MinceR | all of those are terrible | Jun 20 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The battery usage with Chrome is very bad as well. | Jun 20 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | It causes too many wakeups, which subverts the power management of the OS/hardware. | Jun 20 20:07 |
| MinceR | "modern" webshites have got to have their precious wakeups | Jun 20 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | If you can't go into a deep PC state on a platform like Skylake, you can't get those awesome 10 hours on the battery. | Jun 20 20:08 |
| MinceR | so they can use your computers to mine bitcoins even if they're in the background | Jun 20 20:08 |
| MinceR | you can't get it either | Jun 20 20:08 |
| MinceR | s/either/anyway/ | Jun 20 20:08 |
| MinceR | laptop battery life figures are always lies | Jun 20 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Firefox is pretty easy on the battery, at least as provided by Fedora. | Jun 20 20:08 |
| MinceR | got to save some battery for systemd to waste, eh? | Jun 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's worse if you use the Mozilla-provided binary, as is most everything else, including security. | Jun 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Systemd isn't using much. | Jun 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Right now, my system is using about 6 watts. | Jun 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | The whole system. | Jun 20 20:09 |
| MinceR | go tell this guy: https://blind.guru/daemon-cpu.html | Jun 20 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blind.guru | I am sorry, but this looks insane | Jun 20 20:10 | |
| MinceR | oh, yeah, also dbus and packagekit | Jun 20 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: | Jun 20 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1463398 | Jun 20 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1463398 – Gnome Web can't render the website for the Midori browser. | Jun 20 20:12 | |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1463390 | Jun 20 20:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1463390 – Gnome Web uses an insane amount of power, melts my laptop on sites like Facebook and Youtube. [ http://ur1.ca/r147w ] | Jun 20 20:13 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 20 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1462677 | Jun 20 20:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1462677 – GNOME Web crashes when saving an image from discogs.com. [ http://ur1.ca/r147y ] | Jun 20 20:13 | |
| DaemonFC | I've filed three bugs on it so far. | Jun 20 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 20 20:13 |
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| *schestowitz experiments with qupzilla | Jun 20 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | doesn't work with mastodon | Jun 20 20:21 |
| schestowitz | blank page | Jun 20 20:22 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/dark-magic | Jun 20 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Dark Magic | Jun 20 20:23 | |
| schestowitz | hhmmm.... flash just made the browser totally freeze | Jun 20 20:25 |
| schestowitz | no good that.. | Jun 20 20:25 |
| schestowitz | I'll use rekonq for light things | Jun 20 20:26 |
| schestowitz | for now | Jun 20 20:26 |
| schestowitz | until firefox gets its f | Jun 20 20:26 |
| schestowitz | its f* s* together | Jun 20 20:27 |
| schestowitz | it's very annoying | Jun 20 20:27 |
| schestowitz | I wasted so much time on this | Jun 20 20:27 |
| MinceR | justflashthings | Jun 20 20:30 |
| MinceR | firefox is only getting its f* s* increasingly apart | Jun 20 20:30 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/ziUZj | Jun 20 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | test http://imgur.com/gallery/ziUZj | Jun 20 20:43 |
| schestowitz | ok, well... I'm experimenting with less firefox | Jun 20 20:45 |
| schestowitz | I will still need it for some things, but not many | Jun 20 20:45 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/kIhSt | Jun 20 20:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kitties - Album on Imgur | Jun 20 20:51 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/you-too | Jun 20 21:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - You Too | Jun 20 21:17 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/q2FtVgV.gifv | Jun 20 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jun 20 21:24 | |
| schestowitz | Another person at EPo has just killed himself | Jun 20 21:26 |
| schestowitz | shi* | Jun 20 21:26 |
| MinceR | can't they just quit? | Jun 20 21:26 |
| MinceR | or even just stop going to work | Jun 20 21:26 |
| schestowitz | not simple | Jun 20 21:27 |
| schestowitz | they relocate the whole family | Jun 20 21:27 |
| MinceR | why? | Jun 20 21:27 |
| schestowitz | He jumped under a train. | Jun 20 21:28 |
| schestowitz | British citizen | Jun 20 21:28 |
| schestowitz | https://imgur.com/gallery/Wvh94 | Jun 20 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks for the picks | Jun 20 21:46 |
| schestowitz | I will use them later | Jun 20 21:46 |
| MinceR | np | Jun 20 21:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @equbuntu https://twitter.com/equbuntu/status/877288920853221376 | Jun 20 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest The Ubuntu Daily! https://t.co/3rzYpmfSb0 | Jun 20 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines @security_wang | Jun 20 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @phoronix #ubuntu #security | Jun 20 23:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The Ubuntu Daily | Jun 20 23:49 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/epsilon http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1495978247-20170528after.png | Jun 21 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Epsilon | Jun 21 00:12 | |
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| cubexyz | ><schestowitz> I'm furious at Firefox | Jun 21 01:18 |
| cubexyz | <schestowitz> takes like a gig or more of RAM sometimes | Jun 21 01:18 |
| cubexyz | ha | Jun 21 01:18 |
| cubexyz | actually I'm using ff 16 still on one box | Jun 21 01:18 |
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| cubexyz | 512 megs of ram | Jun 21 01:18 |
| cubexyz | on FC1 I use icecat-2.0.0.11-g1 | Jun 21 01:19 |
| cubexyz | but only rarely | Jun 21 01:19 |
| cubexyz | it may have been possible to update icecat using gtk1 | Jun 21 01:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/877321858147729411 | Jun 21 01:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @AlejosAngel Raspberry Pi 3 Boot Support https://t.co/EJd2EZCOuD | Jun 21 01:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix #netbsd #raspi | Jun 21 01:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve Raspberry Pi 3 Boot Support | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:27 | |
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| cubexyz | ff 16 just seems more efficient | Jun 21 01:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OnePlus 5 review—The best sub-$500 phone you can buy | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Tips on Scaling Open Source in the Cloud | Jun 21 01:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tips on Scaling Open Source in the Cloud | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 21 01:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 21 01:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 21 01:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based on Bodhi | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please | Jun 21 01:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/haRGmpXrjs (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 01:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hardware #rapsi | Jun 21 01:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please | Tux Machines | Jun 21 01:52 | |
| DaemonFC | I figured out the insane power draw and CPU usage in Gnome Web. | Jun 21 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora doesn't install gstreamer's va-api by default and intel-va is in RPM Fusion. | Jun 21 01:53 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please...' | Jun 21 01:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Latest quad-core #BananaPi offers SATA support for $32 | Jun 21 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/z6tibZd3Re (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #gnu | Jun 21 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hardware | Jun 21 02:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest quad-core Banana Pi offers SATA support for $32 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877330240023834624 | Jun 21 02:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/azuW5STE7x (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 21 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #sony | Jun 21 02:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sony Xperia Touch Android projector Review | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877330772579037184 | Jun 21 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This is the latest phone from the company Android fans | Jun 21 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | can't get enough of https://t.co/E6vyTdl9bV | Jun 21 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #oneplus #android #linux | Jun 21 02:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This is the latest phone from the company Android fans can't get enough of | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:05 | |
| DaemonFC | https://nystocknews.com/2017/06/20/target-price-for-red-hat-inc-rht-now-above-close-for-monday/ | Jun 21 02:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nystocknews.com | Target Price for Red Hat, Inc. (RHT) now above close for Monday | NY Stock News | Jun 21 02:12 | |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat is way bigger than Novel l was. | Jun 21 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | The Novell deal with Microsoft smacked of desperation from the beginning. | Jun 21 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz: What's the deal with suse these days? | Jun 21 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | Is it still to be avoided? | Jun 21 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | Or did it land somewhere where it's okay to recommend again? | Jun 21 02:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | Red Hat wasn't ever really pushing Mono. Fedora had/has it but it's not a default package. | Jun 21 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | They heavily promote Java. | Jun 21 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the people in Gnome were in a position to push Mono though, and they tried. | Jun 21 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | They were actually pretty pissed about Tomboy being ported to C++. | Jun 21 02:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877334064914616321 | Jun 21 02:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 20/6/2017: Chuwi Lapbook, Linux 4.12 RC6, Mesa | Jun 21 02:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz 17.1.3 https://t.co/pVZIKo4ohT (techrights.org) | Jun 21 02:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/6/2017: Chuwi Lapbook, Linux 4.12 RC6, Mesa 17.1.3 | Techrights | Jun 21 02:17 | |
| DaemonFC | I think the author of Tomboy wrote a whole blog post complaining about Gnote. | Jun 21 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | I commented that you don't get to release something as open source and then complain when people do something with it. | Jun 21 02:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877334619275841536 | Jun 21 02:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 21 02:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My Ubuntu for mobile devices post mortem analysis | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Release of #OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 https://t.co/PtxwGk9t3v | Jun 21 02:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #Mandriva #gnu #linux | Jun 21 02:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/O3gGuTrRJM (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 02:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #server | Jun 21 02:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OnePlus 5 review—The best sub-$500 phone you can buy | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tips on Scaling Open Source in the Cloud | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:26 | |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-WS-Update-NV-WL-Qt | Jun 21 02:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Continues Working On Better NVIDIA Support, PipeWire Could Replace PulseAudio - Phoronix | Jun 21 02:27 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Fedora could replace Pulseaudio. | Jun 21 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they would. They got Pulseaudio working after years of agony, so of course there's something new. | Jun 21 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | So this thing is supposed to replace Pulseaudio *and* Jack. | Jun 21 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Well good luck with that. | Jun 21 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2017/06/20/fedora-workstation-26-and-beyond/ | Jun 21 02:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Fedora Workstation 26 and beyond | Christian Schaller [ http://ur1.ca/r164i ] | Jun 21 02:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Fedora 26 is pretty good. | Jun 21 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | He's right that the industry is moving to open codecs while the widely used encumbered codec patents are expiring. | Jun 21 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Fool me once, shame on you, and all that. | Jun 21 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 21 02:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877336716431941634 | Jun 21 02:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 21 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 21 02:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based on Bodhi | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:36 | |
| DaemonFC | MP3 is dated, but it's not a horrible format. | Jun 21 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877339330875977728 | Jun 21 02:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/haRGmpXrjs (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hardware #rapsi | Jun 21 02:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:36 | |
| DaemonFC | LAME has advanced the technology far beyond what proprietary software ever would have. | Jun 21 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | "QtGNOME platform | Jun 21 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | We will have a new version of the QtGNOME platform in Fedora 26. For those of you who have not yet heard of this effort it is a set of themes and tools to ensure that Qt applications runs without any major issues under GNOME 3. With the new version the theming expands to include the accessibility and dark themes in Adwaita, meaning that if you switch to one of these themes under GNOME shell it will also switch your Qt applications ov | Jun 21 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | er. We are also making sure things like cut’n paste and drag and drop works well. The version in Fedora Workstation 26 is a big step forward for this effort and should hopefully make Qt applications be first class citizens under your Fedora Workstation desktop." | Jun 21 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | Nice. | Jun 21 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz: That's what I was talking about earlier. | Jun 21 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | So Qt and KDE apps fit in better on a Gnome desktop. | Jun 21 02:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877339350039769088 | Jun 21 02:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Latest quad-core #BananaPi offers SATA support for $32 | Jun 21 02:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/z6tibZd3Re (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #gnu | Jun 21 02:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hardware | Jun 21 02:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest quad-core Banana Pi offers SATA support for $32 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @WhiteHouse @VP Did your buddy Vlad approve...' | Jun 21 02:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @WhiteHouse @VP https://t.co/cbdmEBbtwL' | Jun 21 02:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @WhiteHouse @VP https://t.co/cbdmEBbtwL | Jun 21 02:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @WhiteHouse @VP https://t.co/cbdmEBbtwL' | Jun 21 02:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877341983261544448 | Jun 21 02:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Sony Xperia Touch Android projector Review | Jun 21 02:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/azuW5STE7x (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 21 02:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #sony | Jun 21 02:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sony Xperia Touch Android projector Review | Tux Machines | Jun 21 02:46 | |
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| r_schestowitz | [02:15] <DaemonFC> r_schestowitz: What's the deal with suse these days? | Jun 21 02:49 |
| r_schestowitz | it's almost irrelevant | Jun 21 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | I have a friend on Facebook that says he likes openSUSE Tumbleweed. | Jun 21 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | The system management tools on Fedora have gotten a lot better than they used to be. | Jun 21 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | Like, Yum used to make you install a plugin that detected orphan packages and then you had to add a switch to remove them and sometimes it was wrong and broke something. | Jun 21 02:51 |
| r_schestowitz | they barely even keep up their blogs about suse | Jun 21 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | abandoned most of them... | Jun 21 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | "I don't think you should necessarily publish that information on your blog (there is a family left behind), but an examiner committed suicide yesterday in Munich. A British citizen like you, actually. He jumped under a train." | Jun 21 02:57 |
| r_schestowitz | Do most people already know? I don't want to play a "tally" game like a politician. Does the management know? The Line Manager? | Jun 21 02:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz can't get enough of https://t.co/E6vyTdl9bV | Jun 21 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #oneplus #android #linux | Jun 21 03:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This is the latest phone from the company Android fans can't get enough of | Tux Machines | Jun 21 03:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877347539263082497 | Jun 21 03:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #oneplus | Jun 21 03:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kodak | Jun 21 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 03:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/12/15/162 | Jun 21 04:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner: [tip:x86/timers] x86/tsc: Force TSC_ADJUST register to value >= zero | Jun 21 04:10 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, LolNo!Vo has this bug too. | Jun 21 04:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877347552752001024 | Jun 21 04:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #Mandriva #gnu #linux | Jun 21 04:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 04:14 | |
| DaemonFC | http://linux-kernel.2935.n7.nabble.com/Linux-2-6-29-td440085i20.html | Jun 21 04:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux-kernel.2935.n7.nabble.com | Linux Kernel - Linux 2.6.29 | Page 2 | Jun 21 04:17 | |
| DaemonFC | "I never understood how anybody doing filesystems (especially ones that | Jun 21 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | claim to be crash-resistant due to journalling) would _ever_ accept the | Jun 21 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | "writeback" behavior of having "clean fsck, but data loss". " - Linus Torvalds | Jun 21 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jun 21 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Isn't that the same fix? ext4 just defaults to the crappy "writeback" | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | behavior, which is insane. | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | Sure, it makes things _much_ smoother, since now the actual data is no | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | longer in the critical path for any journal writes, but anybody who thinks | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | that's a solution is just incompetent. | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | We might as well go back to ext2 then. If your data gets written out long | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | after the metadata hit the disk, you are going to hit all kinds of bad | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | issues if the machine ever goes down. " | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | That was what Ext4 was doing before 2.6.29. | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | I actually lost some files to that during a system crash. | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | But that's a separate issue from vm.writeback. | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | Ted T'so wrote, "I have 4 gigs of memory on my laptop, and I've never seen it these | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | sorts of issues. So maybe filesystem hackers don't have enough | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | memory; or we don't use the right workloads? It would help if I | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | understood how to trigger these disaster cases. I've had to work | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | *really* hard (as in dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/dirty-me-harder) in order | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | to get even a 30 second fsync() delay. So understanding what sort of | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | things you do that cause that many files data blocks to be dirtied, | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | and/or what is causing a major read workload, would be useful. | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | It may be that we just need to tune the VM to be much more aggressive | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | about pushing dirty pages to the disk sooner. Understanding how the | Jun 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | dynamics are working would be the first step. " | Jun 21 04:22 |
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| DaemonFC | One of the things that powertop recommends is increasing the vm.writeback delay to improve battery life. | Jun 21 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | It risks your data though, but it's the default in the "just tune everything for me" defaults. | Jun 21 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | The longer the writeback delay is, the more data is at risk. | Jun 21 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's not JFS bad, even with the delay that powertop sets. | Jun 21 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | JFS can push the writeback out indefinitely, until an external event triggers one. | Jun 21 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | So you could go hours or even longer. | Jun 21 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | I think that powertop just pushes it out from 5 seconds to 30. | Jun 21 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | You really don't want to use JFS. | Jun 21 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | I can't imagine why it has any users. | Jun 21 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | JFS is really not actively developed like XFS is. | Jun 21 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | I still see XFS developers fixing some bizarre/rare/hard to trigger bugs now and then. | Jun 21 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz: After Greg KH pushed out that tiny 4.11.6 update, he went back to queuing. The 4.11.7 patch set is sitting at 75 patches right now. :P | Jun 21 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | It takes a long time for a kernel to actually settle after it's released. The patches never end, not really. | Jun 21 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | Even after 100 minor versions, it's common to see 50-60 patches in the next update. | Jun 21 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | You could keep fixing things forever and there would be more bugs. | Jun 21 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 has turned into beta quality garbage, even by Microsoft standards. | Jun 21 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | They FORCE update you to a new release that's totally broken and make you test it out before their important customers have to install it. | Jun 21 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | Part of the whole "free" thing. The other being your personal data, down to the keystrones. | Jun 21 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | *keystrokes. | Jun 21 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan FarmerJust now · Chicago · Fedora has a list of Forbidden items and a list of suggestions for what to do instead, but the real answer (cheat sheet) almost always involves installing something from RPM Fusion. I was a little stunned to see that Gnome Web stuttered and made my computer red hot and nearly unresponsive while playing videos and doing some other things without the magic combo of intel-va-driver from RPM Fusion, | Jun 21 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | the codecs from RPM Fusion, and the Gstreamer VA API plugin from Fedora. I had the codecs and the intel-va-driver, but had overlooked the Gstreamer VA API plugin. Doh!Fedora can't recommend RPM Fusion even though almost everyone knows about it, because recommending it would open them up to a lawsuit from a patent holder. ("Well, you may not be shipping this thing we have a patent on, but you're telling people where to get it!").The | Jun 21 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | US legal system is hopelessly fucked. The patent office even once gave a patent to a lawyer for a "method of exercising a cat with a laser pointer" when he was trying to show his son how easy it was to abuse the patent system in the US. | Jun 21 04:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Release of #OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 https://t.co/PtxwGk9t3v #Mandriva #gnu...' | Jun 21 05:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited 'Latest quad-core #BananaPi offers SATA support for $32...' | Jun 21 05:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 05:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited 'Hacker Board Survey Results: More Raspberry Pi, Please...' | Jun 21 05:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based...' | Jun 21 05:00 | |
| DaemonFC | I've been learning to like Pidgin as an IRC client. | Jun 21 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's not horrible with the IRC plugins in the plugins package. | Jun 21 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | It is kind of weird having IRC chatrooms in the same window as Facebook Messenger chats though, and there's no server tab so it makes it a little hard to see what servers you're using. | Jun 21 05:29 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Jun 21 05:53 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: btw it's not necessary to part all channels before quitting :> | Jun 21 05:54 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't. | Jun 21 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | I think it might be doing that on its own. | Jun 21 06:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited 'My Ubuntu for mobile devices post mortem analysis...' | Jun 21 06:27 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/6Ao2TQY.gifv | Jun 21 06:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jun 21 06:32 | |
| MinceR | it's also doing it wrong | Jun 21 06:32 |
| MinceR | your quit message includes a couple of raw part commands together | Jun 21 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | Let's try something. | Jun 21 06:55 |
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| *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has left #techrights ("PART #boycottnovell-social :PART #fedora-qa :PART #fedora-social :PART #fedora :PART #rpmfusion :QUIT :") | Jun 21 06:56 | |
| DaaemonFC | Oh crap. | Jun 21 06:56 |
| DaaemonFC | Well, that's not good. | Jun 21 06:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @equbuntu https://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/877397487992143872 | Jun 21 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by The latest The Ubuntu Daily! https://t.co/3rzYpmfSb0 | Jun 21 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines @security_wang | Jun 21 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @phoronix #ubuntu #security | Jun 21 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The Ubuntu Daily | Jun 21 07:02 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mrt1n3z/status/877406123921469440 | Jun 21 07:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mrt1n3z: Y was tambien y face https://t.co/uN4mL3NQ08 | Jun 21 07:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #bbc 'ad' for #whatsapp which has back doors https://t.co/33wL7Su9Q0 #facebook #encryption is a mirage | Jun 21 07:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877406423541579776 | Jun 21 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #Cossacks3, #SeriousSam, #Sombrero Spaghetti | Jun 21 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Western Mayhem, #HITMAN, and #RocketLeague | Jun 21 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GzYlaUuxX0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 21 07:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Cossacks 3, Serious Sam, Sombrero: Spaghetti Western Mayhem, HITMAN, and Rocket League | Tux Machines | Jun 21 07:06 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/XPzd3Fm.gif | Jun 21 07:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877407282925113344 | Jun 21 07:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Shotwell 0.27.0 | Jun 21 07:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EVRaLqjEbZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome | Jun 21 07:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 21 07:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shotwell 0.27.0 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 07:16 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/I0xU4 | Jun 21 07:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It'll be fine - Album on Imgur | Jun 21 07:19 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9491324 | Jun 21 07:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "This article was sponsored by Microsoft and written by Linux.com." https://www.linux.com/blog/event/lc3-china/2017/6/innovating-open-source-microsofts-story #microsoft pays @linuxfoundation for puff piece | Jun 21 07:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Innovating With Open Source: Microsoft’s Story | Linux.com | The source for Linux information [ http://ur1.ca/r17gr ] | Jun 21 07:26 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lennart-casync | Jun 21 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lennart Poettering Announces New Project: casync - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r17ih ] | Jun 21 07:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tradeatore favourited 'Games: #Cossacks3, #SeriousSam, #Sombrero Spaghetti Western Mayhem, #HITMAN,...' | Jun 21 07:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @InfinityTARD favourited 'Games: #Cossacks3, #SeriousSam, #Sombrero Spaghetti Western Mayhem, #HITMAN,...' | Jun 21 07:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877419668037935106 | Jun 21 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Games: #Cossacks3, #SeriousSam, #Sombrero Spaghetti | Jun 21 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Western Mayhem, #HITMAN, and #RocketLeague | Jun 21 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GzYlaUuxX0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 21 07:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877419732428890115 | Jun 21 07:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Shotwell 0.27.0 | Jun 21 07:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/EVRaLqjEbZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome | Jun 21 07:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 21 07:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877420399197392896 | Jun 21 08:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 21 08:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gkHejdnTHX (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix | Jun 21 08:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 21 08:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 21 08:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877421180214534144 | Jun 21 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu: Accelerated Video Playback, #Netplan By Default, | Jun 21 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux 4.13 | Jun 21 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KLiDIO0taP (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 21 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #canonical #gnu #linux | Jun 21 08:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: Accelerated Video Playback, Netplan By Default, Linux 4.13 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 08:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/gkHejdnTHX #unix #linux #gnu...' | Jun 21 08:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu: Accelerated Video Playback, #Netplan By Default, #Linux...' | Jun 21 08:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cybershellsec retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu: Accelerated Video Playback, #Netplan By Default, #Linux...' | Jun 21 08:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877431892877901824 | Jun 21 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat Profit Climbs 10% | Jun 21 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/w2rzLiFza9 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 21 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #jboss #freesw | Jun 21 08:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Profit Climbs 10% | Tux Machines | Jun 21 08:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877432566982336512 | Jun 21 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Partnerships and Training, AWS Alliance, and New | Jun 21 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Interview | Jun 21 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Wahuvp0GuP (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 21 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #aws #gnu #linux | Jun 21 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Partnerships and Training, AWS Alliance, and New Interview | Tux Machines | Jun 21 08:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Profit Climbs 10% https://t.co/w2rzLiFza9 #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 08:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat Partnerships and Training, AWS Alliance, and...' | Jun 21 08:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RmTux retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Profit Climbs 10% https://t.co/w2rzLiFza9 #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 08:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Profit Climbs 10% https://t.co/w2rzLiFza9 #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 08:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877435395780354049 | Jun 21 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KTechLab Revived | Jun 21 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/X4XkMnnU3u (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #gnu | Jun 21 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 21 08:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KTechLab Revived | Tux Machines | Jun 21 08:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877435767966113792 | Jun 21 09:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #NSA on #Github Now | Jun 21 09:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OwuWpRv5uc (www.tuxmachines.org) #security | Jun 21 09:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NSA on Github Now | Tux Machines | Jun 21 09:01 | |
| XRevan86 | > #rekonq works with neither #mastodon nor #diaspora and #qupzilla works OK with #diaspora and even #twitter - not too bad. | Jun 21 09:02 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: There's a reason for that: rekonq is QWebKit based, QupZilla migrated to QWebEngine recently (Blink). | Jun 21 09:03 |
| XRevan86 | I guess nobody tests stuff in WebKit anymore :). | Jun 21 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877436196942749696 | Jun 21 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security: new updates, new flaws, and #SELinux | Jun 21 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZDe5AVaWG4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freeswwwwww | Jun 21 09:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: new updates, new flaws, and SELinux | Tux Machines | Jun 21 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KTechLab Revived https://t.co/X4XkMnnU3u #kde #gnu #linux...' | Jun 21 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#NSA on #Github Now https://t.co/OwuWpRv5uc #security...' | Jun 21 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: new updates, new flaws, and #SELinux ...' | Jun 21 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StayBeauti_ful retweeted @tuxmachines: '#NSA on #Github Now https://t.co/OwuWpRv5uc #security...' | Jun 21 09:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877437979823943681 | Jun 21 09:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora 26 Plans, #CDK 3.0 on Fedora 25, and #Bodhi 2.8.0 | Jun 21 09:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aemYH2nGZT (www.tuxmachines.org) #f25 #f26 | Jun 21 09:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 21 09:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 26 Plans, CDK 3.0 on Fedora 25, and Bodhi 2.8.0 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 09:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877438501540724736 | Jun 21 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS: Opus 1.2, #GraphQL, #casync, #Tensor2Tensor and More | Jun 21 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OnLmPVg4qB (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 09:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS: Opus 1.2, GraphQL, casync, Tensor2Tensor and More | Tux Machines | Jun 21 09:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877439526918119428 | Jun 21 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft #Openwashing by the Linux Foundation, Lockin | Jun 21 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Model, and More Openwashing With the @LinuxFoundation | Jun 21 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dzKwCEFNUa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 09:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Openwashing by the Linux Foundation, Lockin Model, and More Openwashing With the Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Jun 21 09:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fedora 26 Plans, #CDK 3.0 on Fedora 25,...' | Jun 21 09:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'OSS: Opus 1.2, #GraphQL, #casync, #Tensor2Tensor and More...' | Jun 21 09:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877439644215934976 | Jun 21 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Microsoft #Openwashing by the Linux Foundation, Lockin | Jun 21 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Model, and More Openwashing With the @LinuxFoundation | Jun 21 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dzKwCEFNUa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 09:32 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based...' | Jun 21 09:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ScapholdDotIO favourited 'OSS: Opus 1.2, #GraphQL, #casync, #Tensor2Tensor and More...' | Jun 21 09:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based...' | Jun 21 09:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @IainIsCreative favourited '#NSA on #Github Now https://t.co/OwuWpRv5uc #security...' | Jun 21 09:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NSA on Github Now | Tux Machines | Jun 21 09:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ebijun favourited 'NetBSD Image for Raspberry Pi Updated to Improve...' | Jun 21 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877452793577078785 | Jun 21 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why aren't more researchers using open source? | Jun 21 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EQfDlTutTD (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #research #science | Jun 21 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 10:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why aren't more researchers using open source? | Tux Machines | Jun 21 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877452976599728128 | Jun 21 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Using #Kdump for examining #Linux #Kernel crashes | Jun 21 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/H1sJkn1ZBV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 21 10:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Using Kdump for examining Linux Kernel crashes | Tux Machines | Jun 21 10:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why aren't more researchers using open source? https://t.co/EQfDlTutTD...' | Jun 21 10:09 | |
| r_schestowitz | XRevan86: thanks for the tip | Jun 21 10:13 |
| XRevan86 | r_schestowitz: :) | Jun 21 10:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877453479840710656 | Jun 21 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Using #Kdump for examining #Linux #Kernel crashes | Jun 21 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/H1sJkn1ZBV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 21 11:05 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited 'ROSA R9 Linux OS Now Shipping with a...' | Jun 21 11:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/technologytales/status/877468092087107584 | Jun 21 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 21 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @technologytales Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 21 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 21 11:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based on Bodhi | Tux Machines | Jun 21 11:08 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i don't trust poettering's crap | Jun 21 11:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/iamunnip/status/877502712241283072 | Jun 21 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 21 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iamunnip Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 21 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 21 13:26 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: I guess you have already seen this https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo | Jun 21 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - dspinellis/unix-history-repo: Continuous Unix commit history from 1970 until today [ http://ur1.ca/r19jv ] | Jun 21 13:52 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 21 14:29 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 21 14:29 |
| razielle_tzu | 'sup? | Jun 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz | yo | Jun 21 14:39 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: got an annoying meeting coming up! | Jun 21 14:50 |
| sebsebseb | here | Jun 21 14:50 |
| sebsebseb | then tommrowo should be good :d | Jun 21 14:50 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: going to have to kick dogs out of other room before that ! | Jun 21 14:51 |
| sebsebseb | or try to hmm | Jun 21 14:51 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: computer support tommorow, and public speaking :D | Jun 21 14:53 |
| razielle_tzu | fair | Jun 21 14:53 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CrashPlanSlow favourited 'Software: Journal Apps, #GNU #Automake, #Weblate, #Gammu, and...' | Jun 21 14:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StayBeauti_ful favourited '#Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based...' | Jun 21 14:53 | |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: thats lots of WIndows stuff :D oh yeah | Jun 21 14:53 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: 10 pound an hour | Jun 21 14:54 |
| sebsebseb | I should make quite a lot tommorow :D | Jun 21 14:54 |
| sebsebseb | its Windows after all ! | Jun 21 14:54 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: hi | Jun 21 14:54 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: hi | Jun 21 14:54 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: That's the best Windows feature, yeah. | Jun 21 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yep nice and slow :d | Jun 21 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | yes mamybe I aam wrong and can aactsaully make enough money doing windows system admin home sjupport small bsuiness etc hmm | Jun 21 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | he h h eh | Jun 21 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | but really I am doing Linuxey stuff tomrowow | Jun 21 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | with a woman from my lug | Jun 21 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | back to Linux after 8 years | Jun 21 14:56 |
| *XRevan86 is confused now :). | Jun 21 14:56 | |
| sebsebseb | invited her to my other group as well so hopefuly comes :) | Jun 21 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: I am doing Linux support tommorwo for real not Windows | Jun 21 14:56 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: And what's with 8 years? | Jun 21 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: she hasn't been using desktop linux for 8 years | Jun 21 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | You haven't used Linux in 8 years? | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | no her | Jun 21 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | oh, she hasn't | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | the woman | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | shes back recnetly using it | Jun 21 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: You can tell her that a random dude from Russia approved her choice :). | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: shes scared to re install ubuntu | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | despite having a seprate /home | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | and worried about slogin some things | Jun 21 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | so going to put another ubuntu install on tomrowo as well probably | Jun 21 14:58 |
| sebsebseb | seems she already has a seprate /home as well, some guy in a shop set her up | Jun 21 14:58 |
| sebsebseb | yep dual booting ubuntu :d same distro same version | Jun 21 14:58 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: When I did reinstalling, I got the old distro stacked in a directory. | Jun 21 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | so that I could get stuff from it using chroot | Jun 21 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | and then easily "rm -rf" it when enough time passed | Jun 21 14:59 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yeah but will keep it | Jun 21 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | she has some custom set up etc | Jun 21 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | taht doens't want toj ust lose | Jun 21 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Also, why reinstalling? | Jun 21 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | will take her time to set up | Jun 21 15:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/StayBeauti_ful/status/877524964185952256 | Jun 21 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially | Jun 21 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @StayBeauti_ful Released, Based on Bodhi https://t.co/RMTPSGejzA | Jun 21 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #education #gnu #linux #bodhilinux | Jun 21 15:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Escuelas Linux 5.4 Educational Distribution Officially Released, Based on Bodhi | Tux Machines | Jun 21 15:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877529752646688768 | Jun 21 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat is Breaking Records | Jun 21 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5DDvAlszpt (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 21 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #rht | Jun 21 15:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat is Breaking Records | Tux Machines | Jun 21 15:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877532157173956608 | Jun 21 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Devuan and #Debian Updates | Jun 21 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #systemd | Jun 21 15:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan and Debian Updates | Tux Machines | Jun 21 15:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics News: Intel KVMGT/XenGT GVT-g, Radeon Instinct | Jun 21 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Accelerator, Intel Graphics Driver Updates For #Linux | Jun 21 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.13 | Jun 21 15:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/877538388890591235 | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Graphics News: Intel KVMGT/XenGT GVT-g, Radeon Instinct | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 Accelerator, Intel Graphics Driver Updates For #Linux | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.13 | Jun 21 15:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877538636539015170 | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games (Proprietary) | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rYDzXQvY38 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 21 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming #gnu #linux | Jun 21 15:48 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AllDayIndieDev retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform...' | Jun 21 15:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform Games (Proprietary) | Tux Machines | Jun 21 15:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AllDayIndieDev favourited 'Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform...' | Jun 21 15:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/877539064563585026 | Jun 21 15:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Devuan and #Debian Updates | Jun 21 15:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 15:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #systemd | Jun 21 15:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan and Debian Updates | Tux Machines | Jun 21 15:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform...' | Jun 21 15:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StephenLSims retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Back to FOSS Roots and More Multi-/Cross-Platform...' | Jun 21 15:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877540677533532160 | Jun 21 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux on Devices: #Linaro, #RaspberryPi, #Joule, | Jun 21 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Edison, and #Galileo | Jun 21 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mfWcQTsdz4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi #gnu | Jun 21 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #intel | Jun 21 15:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux on Devices: Linaro, Raspberry Pi, Joule, Edison, and Galileo | Tux Machines | Jun 21 15:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @calcaware retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux on Devices: #Linaro, #RaspberryPi, #Joule, #Edison, and...' | Jun 21 15:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/877542768578629633 | Jun 21 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Devuan and #Debian Updates | Jun 21 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #systemd | Jun 21 16:05 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@MacCocktail @Snowden It's about control. If they cannot...' | Jun 21 16:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877548984260329473 | Jun 21 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE News: #Calamares, #FOSSASIA, #DigiKam, Curves, | Jun 21 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KRuler, and More | Jun 21 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DTGZNqAvYD (www.tuxmachines.org) #plasma | Jun 21 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 21 16:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE News: #Calamares, #FOSSASIA, #DigiKam, Curves, | Jun 21 16:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 21 16:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877554194387017729 | Jun 21 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Univention Corporate Server 4.2-1 | Jun 21 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0APUX4huK3 (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian | Jun 21 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #ucs | Jun 21 16:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Univention Corporate Server 4.2-1 | Tux Machines | Jun 21 16:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877555240308019200 | Jun 21 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mozilla News: #Firefox Focus for #Android, $2 Million | Jun 21 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Prize to Decentralize, and #AdBlocking | Jun 21 16:54 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Univention Corporate Server 4.2-1 https://t.co/0APUX4huK3 #debian #gnu...' | Jun 21 16:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877556162878689281 | Jun 21 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 21 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8V8UbEF6Dm (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 21 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #linux | Jun 21 17:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE News: #Calamares, #FOSSASIA, #DigiKam, Curves, | Jun 21 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec #KRuler, and More | Jun 21 17:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 21 17:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877558842086879232 | Jun 21 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Programming: #GCC and #Java | Jun 21 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JMsA5yjZKn (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 21 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #compiler | Jun 21 17:10 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Programming: #GCC and #Java https://t.co/JMsA5yjZKn #gnu #compiler...' | Jun 21 17:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877561301723209728 | Jun 21 17:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security: #StackClash and #WannaCry | Jun 21 17:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Stack Clash and WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @SecurityNews6 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #StackClash and #WannaCry https://t.co/EVlRGUvSX8 #security...' | Jun 21 17:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877562169289822208 | Jun 21 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: #OpenStack and #Containers, #MongoDB World 2017 | Jun 21 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Jm26Tcopeb (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 17:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877562493089927172 | Jun 21 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers | Jun 21 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KuTsRyQ2gv (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 17:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877562892987416577 | Jun 21 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian and #Ubuntu Leftovers | Jun 21 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pK6nIV5nnL (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 21 17:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Software Leftovers and #GNOME | Jun 21 17:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software Leftovers and GNOME | Tux Machines | Jun 21 17:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877563755021860866 | Jun 21 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers Leftovers | Jun 21 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gCn7DDmmMJ (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 21 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hpc #gnu #linux | Jun 21 17:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 21/6/2017: Red Hat's Numbers Are Up, New Debian | Jun 21 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Being Studied https://t.co/GYKhS0WeRd (techrights.org) | Jun 21 18:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/6/2017: Red Hat’s Numbers Are Up, New Debian Being Studied | Techrights | Jun 21 18:05 | |
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| MinceR | http://random.cat/i/ZHOEq.jpg | Jun 21 19:57 |
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| MinceR | apparently qupzilla 2.0.0 uses QtWebEngine, which is based on Blink | Jun 21 20:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yeah, it does. | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | just checked their blog | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | a moment ago | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | last release in March | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | I am trying to get my head around it | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | there are some things that don't work too well | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | Asa wrote to me today | Jun 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz | to offer help with Firefox | Jun 21 20:41 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: QupZilla does get new commits and stuff. | Jun 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz | it works OK for most things | Jun 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz | I still use Firefox only for a few things | Jun 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz | and it make a mess with RAM if I start it | Jun 21 20:42 |
| XRevan86 | It eats 1.5G for me right now, out of 8G | Jun 21 20:43 |
| schestowitz | how many tabs? | Jun 21 20:43 |
| schestowitz | and how much of this RAM is in the heap? | Jun 21 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: 39 tabs | Jun 21 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | 922.00 MB ── heap-mapped | 705.68 MB ── heap-allocated | Jun 21 20:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: that? | Jun 21 20:44 |
| schestowitz | so less than a gig | Jun 21 20:45 |
| schestowitz | or 24mb per tab | Jun 21 20:45 |
| XRevan86 | > or 24mb per tab | Jun 21 20:45 |
| XRevan86 | I don't have multiprocessing enabled | Jun 21 20:46 |
| XRevan86 | too many addons :) | Jun 21 20:46 |
| schestowitz | firefox started crashing on me | Jun 21 20:46 |
| schestowitz | almost at random | Jun 21 20:46 |
| schestowitz | so I wanted multi-process | Jun 21 20:46 |
| schestowitz | the whole thing is a mess | Jun 21 20:46 |
| XRevan86 | Things work fine by me, really. | Jun 21 20:47 |
| XRevan86 | At least in this point in time. I dread the removal of XUL. | Jun 21 20:48 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/BRP4Dmy | Jun 21 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: wow, ears.... | Jun 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz | US power socket | Jun 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/gallery/B4P25 | Jun 21 21:05 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jun 21 21:06 |
| XRevan86 | Someone just posted an imgur link in a different chat. I opened it and it showed 404. Again. What the fudge… | Jun 21 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | It's the second imgur link that shows me 404 in Firefox. | Jun 21 21:30 |
| MinceR | imgur has gone cancerous | Jun 21 21:36 |
| MinceR | they fuck with direct links | Jun 21 21:36 |
| MinceR | naturally, they bloated their site first | Jun 21 21:36 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: indeed | Jun 21 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | OpenMandriva made the bizarre decision to change the default compiler to Clang. | Jun 21 21:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Quite a while ago. | Jun 21 21:38 |
| XRevan86 | Nobody cares about Mandriva so it went unnoticed. | Jun 21 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | Phoronix benchmarked it against other distributions and found that it wasn't the best performing distro on any of the tests, but it came in dead last on four of them. | Jun 21 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | One of the reasons I use Fedora is because they always use something close to the latest GCC and glibc, among other things. | Jun 21 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | So it usually performs very well. | Jun 21 21:39 |
| *XRevan86 looks at gcc-7-2.1.x86_64 and glibc-2.25-2.3.x86_64 | Jun 21 21:40 | |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: What versions do you have on Fedora? | Jun 21 21:40 |
| XRevan86 | * gcc7-7.1.1+r248590-1.1.x86_64 | Jun 21 21:41 |
| XRevan86 | wrong package | Jun 21 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | GCC 7.1.1 and Glibc 2.25, but they frequently update their package past the official stated version. | Jun 21 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | They pushed an updated glibc that took it to the latest git commit for the 2.25 branch this morning. | Jun 21 21:42 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I see you're on beta | Jun 21 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | Because it fixed a list of bugs and one CVE. | Jun 21 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, and it's quite stable right now. | Jun 21 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | There were some issues of parts of the Gnome Shell crashing earlier in the cycle. | Jun 21 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | It was frustrating, but it's not a finished product, so there's that. | Jun 21 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | They just released the latest stable Mesa packages as well. | Jun 21 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | A bunch of Intel bugs fixed in 17.1.3. | Jun 21 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Skylake is starting to work quite nicely. | Jun 21 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | I may not ultimately stick with Fedora. | Jun 21 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | I might keep 26 around for a while and hop off onto CentOS 8 at some point in the future. | Jun 21 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | I very much doubt that CentOS 8 is more than a year out. | Jun 21 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | I could do an in place upgrade to Fedora 27 if I need to. Their process is finally reliable. | Jun 21 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Gallium-Uniform-Packing | Jun 21 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More Driver CPU Overhead Work Being Tackled By Valve Developers - Phoronix | Jun 21 21:49 | |
| DaemonFC | It's nice to see Valve so interested in Linux. | Jun 21 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed several video games that work better on Intel's Linux drivers than on their Windows 10 stuff. | Jun 21 21:50 |
| MinceR | it would be nicer if they were also interested in GNU | Jun 21 21:51 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Well, they use GNU stuff %) | Jun 21 21:51 |
| MinceR | afaik they depend on a fuckton of poetteringware | Jun 21 21:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: SteamOS is Debian based. | Jun 21 21:52 |
| MinceR | which is lendows | Jun 21 21:53 |
| cubexyz | did you look at casync? | Jun 21 22:06 |
| MinceR | no | Jun 21 22:06 |
| cubexyz | the first thing I thought when I heard about it was if it would work without systemd | Jun 21 22:08 |
| cubexyz | ok, good news :) | Jun 21 22:10 |
| MinceR | and you still believe poettering? | Jun 21 22:11 |
| cubexyz | it doesn't need systemd and it will work on linux systems without it | Jun 21 22:11 |
| MinceR | he's a slimy lying piece of shit | Jun 21 22:11 |
| cubexyz | why do you say that? | Jun 21 22:11 |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/pxRdY https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html | Jun 21 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | The future of the udev source tree | Jun 21 22:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop the udev firmware loader | Jun 21 22:11 | |
| MinceR | this is why i say that | Jun 21 22:11 |
| cubexyz | because you believe that udev won't stay non-systemd compatible | Jun 21 22:13 |
| MinceR | "for a long time" | Jun 21 22:14 |
| MinceR | "For us, compatibility is key." | Jun 21 22:14 |
| cubexyz | ok, it's 2017... | Jun 21 22:16 |
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| cubexyz | and I'm using slack with udev | Jun 21 22:17 |
| cubexyz | without systemd | Jun 21 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Must be an old version of udev | Jun 21 22:17 |
| MinceR | that's eudev | Jun 21 22:19 |
| MinceR | slackware switched to eudev | Jun 21 22:19 |
| MinceR | because poettering is a lying piece of shit | Jun 21 22:19 |
| cubexyz | ok, yes eudev 3.1.5 | Jun 21 22:19 |
| MinceR | (that was one of the new things in 14.2) | Jun 21 22:20 |
| cubexyz | I assume it was forked? | Jun 21 22:20 |
| cubexyz | ah yes I see it is | Jun 21 22:20 |
| MinceR | also, approximately 2 years passed between those posts | Jun 21 22:21 |
| cubexyz | two bad things happened that I didn't like | Jun 21 22:24 |
| cubexyz | scanner protocols started becaming more obfuscated around.... | Jun 21 22:25 |
| cubexyz | when HP eliminated software developer support in august of 2001 | Jun 21 22:26 |
| MinceR | also, crApple bought CUPS and shat into it | Jun 21 22:27 |
| MinceR | 1 crApple, 1 CUPS | Jun 21 22:27 |
| cubexyz | then after that /dev/usb/scanner0 was dropped... no more fopen on that | Jun 21 22:27 |
| cubexyz | so to counter that I started maintaining the older systems | Jun 21 22:28 |
| cubexyz | ok, I didn't realize apple bought CUPS | Jun 21 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | I heard that eudev was not maintained anymore. | Jun 21 22:30 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/KevFR | Jun 21 22:30 |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC: from red hat? | Jun 21 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | No, I can't recall where I read that. | Jun 21 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 21 22:31 |
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| cubexyz | not sure what's going on with eudev to be honest | Jun 21 22:38 |
| oiaohm | One of the embed conference developers in 2016 build systemd and then left behind only udev and it worked other than systemd containing rules files. | Jun 21 22:40 |
| oiaohm | So at this stage it appears nothing any different to what was done with sysvinit to make incompatibilities with other init systems has been done. | Jun 21 22:41 |
| MinceR | finally, the white knight, defender of corrupt corporations, is here | Jun 21 22:42 |
| oiaohm | Really it s bit of a joke to thing udev was init neutral | Jun 21 22:42 |
| MinceR | yes, was. | Jun 21 22:42 |
| oiaohm | No it was not. | Jun 21 22:42 |
| MinceR | note the past tense | Jun 21 22:42 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: do you own stock in red hat? | Jun 21 22:43 |
| oiaohm | The rules were always tainted with sysvinit stuff before systemd. | Jun 21 22:43 |
| cubexyz | did apple do anything bad to CUPS? | Jun 21 22:43 |
| oiaohm | And you had to remove those when you want to use runit and other init systems. | Jun 21 22:43 |
| cubexyz | I still use it and it seems to work | Jun 21 22:43 |
| MinceR | they made the web ui unnecessarily ugly | Jun 21 22:43 |
| MinceR | and they removed some feature _they_ did not need | Jun 21 22:43 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course you never would have using a non sysvinit back then. | Jun 21 22:43 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so you would have never known. | Jun 21 22:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: sysvinit was easy to replace | Jun 21 22:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: right when in some distributions hard drives did not even udev up correctly. | Jun 21 22:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: as I said you had never tried it. | Jun 21 22:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i never needed to | Jun 21 22:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: see multi did not really exist ever. | Jun 21 22:45 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: sysvinit didn't break cron, or syslogd, or atd, or tmux, or screen, or dtach | Jun 21 22:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: only people who believed that never tried it. | Jun 21 22:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also systemd did not break tmux or screen or dtach. Any different to what could happen with consolekit. Only thing was a default change. | Jun 21 22:45 |
| cubexyz | got a bit of a shock recently about sane-rts8891 | Jun 21 22:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and cron will work under systemd | Jun 21 22:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes it did | Jun 21 22:46 |
| cubexyz | "scanners of the same model exist with different sensors" | Jun 21 22:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: consolekit did not change the default. | Jun 21 22:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes, and cronjobs will be killed if cron is restarted | Jun 21 22:46 |
| MinceR | which is completely ass backwards | Jun 21 22:46 |
| MinceR | it follows from an assumption systemd makes that simply does not hold | Jun 21 22:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it was a console kit option. To kill processes on user logout. | Jun 21 22:47 |
| MinceR | but it's not like you'd ever care | Jun 21 22:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course that was off by default. | Jun 21 22:47 |
| MinceR | because something something slowlaris fucked up similarly too | Jun 21 22:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: do you know the difference between options and defaults? | Jun 21 22:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes and being a option any distribution in a global config file any distribution could have decided to ship with it reversed. | Jun 21 22:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so prove that the choosen default is wrong. | Jun 21 22:48 |
| cubexyz | and in the old days I could specify the dpi on my scans... | Jun 21 22:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yet no distribution has. | Jun 21 22:48 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and then you could tell which distros are made by people who don't know what they're doing | Jun 21 22:48 |
| cubexyz | 175, 200, 250 whatever I wanted | Jun 21 22:48 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: as your favorite malware made it possible all the same | Jun 21 22:48 |
| cubexyz | and I don't think XPA was ever supported with rts8891 based scanners :-/ | Jun 21 22:52 |
| cubexyz | oops, wait... I stand corrected | Jun 21 22:53 |
| cubexyz | eventually we did get XPA support for HP 4470C | Jun 21 22:53 |
| cubexyz | but there are at least two different CCDs | Jun 21 22:54 |
| cubexyz | SANE deals with this by implementing CCD1 and CCD2 support | Jun 21 22:54 |
| cubexyz | yeah so I was looking at an old man page | Jun 21 22:55 |
| cubexyz | not my fault though! | Jun 21 22:56 |
| cubexyz | I even looked at slackware 14.2 man page and they just didn't bother updating it | Jun 21 22:56 |
| cubexyz | because you know everybody loves nroff so much :-P | Jun 21 22:57 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/reasoning http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1496240951-20170531after%20%281%29.png | Jun 21 22:58 |
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| MinceR | i'd pick nroff over m$ office any day | Jun 21 22:59 |
| cubexyz | well yeah :) | Jun 21 22:59 |
| cubexyz | and you know I still use nroff | Jun 21 23:00 |
| MinceR | normally i use [La]TeX instead | Jun 21 23:03 |
| cubexyz | I'm pretty sure all SANE needed to do was turn on the XPA light, ta-da instant XPA support | Jun 21 23:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really lot of your complains are done without history. logind added as a option not default to kill processes on log out. Distributions deploying logind turned this on by config file first. The latter logind default was set to match distributions while adding option for per user override. | Jun 21 23:04 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i don't care about systemd-logind | Jun 21 23:04 |
| MinceR | never did, never will | Jun 21 23:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: So some issues with logind are coming from distributions to reduced number of bugs distributions have reported. | Jun 21 23:04 |
| MinceR | you're so zealous i can't even untangle your grammar anymore | Jun 21 23:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: hardened distributions in sysvinit were known for same thing. | Jun 21 23:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: including kill off everything in cron when cron died due to using something management around it. | Jun 21 23:05 |
| MinceR | ooh, running a massive hairball as root as pid1 is now "hardened" | Jun 21 23:05 |
| MinceR | do you get your terminology from microsoft? | Jun 21 23:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: most of this did not come from left field. | Jun 21 23:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: it should have stayed where it came from | Jun 21 23:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if you people thought this malicious shit was so perfect you should have let people choose it on their own instead of using politics to force it on everyone | Jun 21 23:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you did care about what Logind did then you should not have raised the tmux screen and detach issues. | Jun 21 23:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: at this point i'd refuse to adopt the shit you're pushing even if it was benign and good | Jun 21 23:07 |
| MinceR | that it's a piece of ill-designed malware is just icing on the turd | Jun 21 23:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not all the issue you are raising should be going back to systemd. Some are distribution maintainer selections. | Jun 21 23:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: try to get this through your thick skull: the free software community is not, and should not be, an empire | Jun 21 23:08 |
| oiaohm | Then you have to ask why are they selecting that way. | Jun 21 23:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i do not need an emperor, and i'm pretty sure many other people don't need one | Jun 21 23:08 |
| MinceR | either. | Jun 21 23:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes, which happen to be controlled by red hat | Jun 21 23:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: then why were harden distributions doing some of these thing before systemd existed. | Jun 21 23:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: hardening is not the same as randomly fucking with users and forcing things on them by using dependencies as weapons | Jun 21 23:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: logind killing screen dtach, tmux on logout is the same a console kit in harden distribution doing it. So that was hardening against a particular type of issue. Except the harded distribution was less userfriendly that user could not say X user would avoid termination. | Jun 21 23:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if one was to harden systemd, they would have to throw out most of it. | Jun 21 23:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: at any rate, hardening can only be done properly by the sysadmin, not by a self-appointed dictator from on high, since every system will be different regarding what they can let go | Jun 21 23:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: system admin still has to have the tools. Some things that systemd has done like having a option to terminate applications on user logout should be part of the default kit of tools and that is why hardened distributions had it. | Jun 21 23:14 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ill-conceived defaults are not tools | Jun 21 23:15 |
| MinceR | options are tools | Jun 21 23:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it was a option until it was seen that the first 5 distributions were turning it on by default and so far there as not being one turning it off since change to default. | Jun 21 23:15 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: maybe you need to study what "freedom" is | Jun 21 23:16 |
| oiaohm | Maybe you should. | Jun 21 23:16 |
| MinceR | the "first 5 distributions" are garbage | Jun 21 23:16 |
| oiaohm | The freedom to change the default is still there. | Jun 21 23:16 |
| MinceR | where is the freedom to not use cancerd? | Jun 21 23:16 |
| MinceR | "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call." | Jun 21 23:16 |
| oiaohm | embedded system developer use that freedom all the time. | Jun 21 23:17 |
| MinceR | as long as your beloved redhat allows them to | Jun 21 23:17 |
| oiaohm | Then the question comes why are distribution maintainers mostly choosing the same path. | Jun 21 23:17 |
| MinceR | because many of them relied on gnome, which is controlled by red hat | Jun 21 23:17 |
| MinceR | they announced that gnome will depend on systemd and the puppets followed them | Jun 21 23:18 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't know why Fedora still has Xchat packages when the last release was 7 years ago. | Jun 21 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | HexChat is actively developed. They have that too. | Jun 21 23:31 |
| MinceR | if things are properly automatized, it might be less work to leave it in | Jun 21 23:32 |
| cubexyz | I'm using xchat still | Jun 21 23:37 |
| cubexyz | 2.8.6 on this box | Jun 21 23:37 |
| MinceR | i tried weechat, then went back to irssi | Jun 21 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://hexchat.github.io/news/hexchat-and-antivirus.html | Jun 21 23:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hexchat.github.io | HexChat and antivirus – HexChat | Jun 21 23:39 | |
| DaemonFC | When I used IRC on my AT&T DSL account years ago ,they kept sending me warnings that I had a virus. | Jun 21 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | And as proof, "There was IRC traffic detected from your computer.". | Jun 21 23:40 |
| cubexyz | slackware 14.2 has hexchat | Jun 21 23:40 |
| cubexyz | evidently the windows version of xchat was shareware and you were supposed to pay a one-time fee of $20 | Jun 21 23:43 |
| cubexyz | hexedit and xchat look very similar | Jun 21 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-CET-GCC-Patches | Jun 22 00:03 |
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| DaemonFC | Should be the default ASAP. There's no downside to running the program on a processor without support for it other than the additional protection won't work. | Jun 22 00:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian, #RedHat and #CentOS All Patch the Stack Clash | Jun 22 01:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Tizen 4.0 OS evolves as the IoT Ecosystem expands | Jun 22 01:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Satellite 5.8 now generally available | Jun 22 02:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/mGucLsjUGv | Jun 22 02:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | You need to check out the new #OnePlus 5 before buying | Jun 22 02:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | any other Android smartphone https://t.co/xA3K4GJ1G9 | Jun 22 02:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Linux Distro: Linux Experts Rate Distros | Jun 22 02:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical Also Patches #Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Against the | Jun 22 02:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat Soars, Upgraded, Jim Whitehurst Speaks Out | Jun 22 05:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @adymitruk any other Android smartphone https://t.co/xA3K4GJ1G9 | Jun 22 09:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME Encrypted Home Folder, #Mutter Development, | Jun 22 09:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/NG9lAKpIRY | Jun 22 09:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/877810470446448640 | Jun 22 09:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Flatpak Linux App Sandboxing Receives New Feature That | Jun 22 09:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hardens Its #Security | Jun 22 09:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZGX53lbSTy (www.tuxmachines.org) #fedora | Jun 22 09:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnome #redhat | Jun 22 09:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Flatpak Linux App Sandboxing Receives New Feature That Hardens Its Security | Tux Machines | Jun 22 09:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Debian 9.0.1 Released | Jun 22 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/O2xxJAlwHI (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian | Jun 22 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #bugfix | Jun 22 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 9.0.1 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 22 09:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Security: #BrutalKangaroo targets Windows, #Linux Updates | Jun 22 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available, Reproducible Builds, and Patching #StackClash | Jun 22 10:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Brutal Kangaroo Targets Windows, Linux Updates Available, Reproducible Builds, and Patching Stack Clash | Tux Machines | Jun 22 10:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #BrutalKangaroo targets Windows, #Linux Updates Available, Reproducible...' | Jun 22 10:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StayBeauti_ful retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #BrutalKangaroo targets Windows, #Linux Updates Available, Reproducible...' | Jun 22 10:24 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks It has long been known that #microsoft...' | Jun 22 10:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks It has long been known...' | Jun 22 10:43 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 22 10:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/MelindaMcC1/status/877825988138196992 | Jun 22 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #GNOME Encrypted Home Folder, #Mutter Development, | Jun 22 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @MelindaMcC1 #GNOMEMaps Development and More | Jun 22 10:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Norway register shares dataset tools as open source | Jun 22 11:43 |
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| XRevan86 | http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/f9x2th7 The Poland's Sejm approved a law banning Soviet monuments (communist propaganda). | Jun 22 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiadomosci.onet.pl | Sejm uchwalił nowelę ustawy o zakazie propagowania komunizmu - Wiadomości | Jun 22 15:20 | |
| XRevan86 | Another country realised monuments of previous regimes are obsolete and must be removed. | Jun 22 15:21 |
| XRevan86 | When will monuments of Julius Caesar and Napoleon Bonaparte finally be gone? | Jun 22 15:22 |
| XRevan86 | These people were jerks, humanity should just forget they even existed. | Jun 22 15:23 |
| XRevan86 | And piramids are but a reminder of faraon oppression that glorify some jerk's ego. | Jun 22 15:24 |
| XRevan86 | All those monuments, propaganda of the past… It all should simply be destroyed. | Jun 22 15:27 |
| XRevan86 | I think 1984 covered this topic but never mid. | Jun 22 15:28 |
| XRevan86 | mind | Jun 22 15:28 |
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| MinceR | some of those were bigger jerks than others, especially in the context of their contemporaries | Jun 22 15:56 |
| MinceR | oh wait, there i go, "excessively" "demonizing" stalin... | Jun 22 15:56 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yeah, nobody can top faraons. Well, maybe Hitler. | Jun 22 16:00 |
| MinceR | what the pharaohs did was standard for their time, though | Jun 22 16:00 |
| MinceR | what stalin and hitler did, not so much | Jun 22 16:01 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: This reminds me of what the US did to people of Japanese nationality during WWII | Jun 22 16:05 |
| MinceR | yeah, that was nasty too | Jun 22 16:06 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Stalin was a big bafoon but he wasn't that much behind the times. | Jun 22 16:06 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's not like he had tens of millions of people killed in the 20th century or anything | Jun 22 16:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I thought the number is around a million | Jun 22 16:08 |
| MinceR | is that what putin's propaganda says nowadays about his idol? | Jun 22 16:09 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: 600 000 people political convicts killed. | Jun 22 16:11 |
| XRevan86 | directly or in prison | Jun 22 16:11 |
| MinceR | then there's at least 2.4 million as part of the holodomor | Jun 22 16:12 |
| MinceR | and that's apparently just a fraction of what he did | Jun 22 16:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If political mistakes count, then the number is bigger of course. | Jun 22 16:13 |
| MinceR | interesting terminology there | Jun 22 16:13 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's quite different, the repression apparatus and misgovern | Jun 22 16:15 |
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| MinceR | yes, an engineered famine is mere "misgovernment", a "mistake" | Jun 22 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So it was engineered? | Jun 22 16:18 |
| MinceR | it was | Jun 22 16:18 |
| XRevan86 | There are much quicker and easier ways of eliminating USSR from within | Jun 22 16:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Whom could it benefit? | Jun 22 16:19 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's safe to assume that Stalin's goal wasn't increasing misery of USSR. | Jun 22 16:20 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 22 16:20 |
| MinceR | one hypothesis was that he used it to kill off an independence movement | Jun 22 16:21 |
| MinceR | but he was a nutcase, so who knows | Jun 22 16:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The Ukrainian anarchists? | Jun 22 16:21 |
| XRevan86 | I don't think they were big enough at a time… | Jun 22 16:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He wasn't that much of a nutcase. | Jun 22 16:22 |
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| XRevan86 | If he knew the results of his reforms (a famine), he'd knew what a devastating effect it would have for the whole union and him personally. | Jun 22 16:23 |
| MinceR | oh, right, i forgot that humanity doubled down on authoritarianism and self-harm since 2010 | Jun 22 16:23 |
| MinceR | stalin and hitler are 'hip' now | Jun 22 16:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They both weren't even human, literally Anti-Christs, both of them/ | Jun 22 16:24 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor#cite_note-britannica-13 | Jun 22 16:25 |
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| MinceR | ""Its deliberate nature is underscored by the fact that no physical basis for famine existed in Ukraine ... Soviet authorities set requisition quotas for Ukraine at an impossibly high level. Brigades of special agents were dispatched to Ukraine to assist in procurement, and homes were routinely searched and foodstuffs confiscated ... The rural population was left with insufficient food to feed itself." | Jun 22 16:26 |
| MinceR | "reforms" | Jun 22 16:26 |
| MinceR | "mistake" | Jun 22 16:26 |
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| XRevan86 | > that no physical basis for famine existed in Ukraine | Jun 22 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's not a proof of the deliberate nature. | Jun 22 16:27 |
| MinceR | >underscored | Jun 22 16:28 |
| MinceR | read on. | Jun 22 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's how forced collectivisation was done, across the whole union. | Jun 22 16:28 |
| MinceR | usually not to the extent that it caused millions to starve to death, though | Jun 22 16:28 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: It kinda did | Jun 22 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Ukraine_famine_map.png | Jun 22 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This is a famine map, so to say | Jun 22 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | black bold lines are borders of the Ukrainian SSR | Jun 22 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | + Crimea | Jun 22 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | (wasn't a part of the Ukrainian SSR during Stalin's reign) | Jun 22 16:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Notice how the famine doesn't care about the black bold line. | Jun 22 16:32 |
| MinceR | ah, so the "mistake" was that they managed to kill people elsewhere as well | Jun 22 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | and is actually bigger than this Ukraine-concentrated map | Jun 22 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Famine_en_URSS_1933.jpg | Jun 22 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Every agrarian region of USSR suffered. | Jun 22 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | Is it because Stalin wanted to kill Ukrainians or is it because agrarian regions are what should be affected by a sloppy agrarian reform? | Jun 22 16:34 |
| XRevan86 | (Ukraine was the heart of the USSR's agrarian production) | Jun 22 16:34 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't call absurdly high requisition quotas and confiscating food a "reform" | Jun 22 16:38 |
| MinceR | but maybe that's because i'm not a communist | Jun 22 16:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Actually, in a way you're right. | Jun 22 16:39 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine there is high alignments. | Jun 22 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Great Chinese Famine - Wikipedia | Jun 22 16:40 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The first wave of collectivisation (voluntary) gave very impressive results; | Jun 22 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: When the second wave (forced) which was supposed to move USSR to mega-prosperity, turned out not to be so peachy; | Jun 22 16:40 |
| oiaohm | Both 1932 russia and 1958 China both attempted rapid changes to food production The year latter everything started falling in on them. | Jun 22 16:41 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The bureaucrats started thinking that this is because the greedy people were hiding stuff for themselves | Jun 22 16:41 |
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| MinceR | "thinking" | Jun 22 16:41 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Hence high requisition quotas, because the authorities thought people have much-much more just not giving away. | Jun 22 16:42 |
| MinceR | and there was no room for verifying assumptions on the go in communist methodology? | Jun 22 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Look at how Stalin governened and you'll see that nope. | Jun 22 16:43 |
| MinceR | must be the usual case of "ideology is always right, reality is sometimes wrong" | Jun 22 16:43 |
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| oiaohm | Really both famines I am not exactly sure if they are genocide by design. I think they are both genocide due to bad planning of food production. | Jun 22 16:43 |
| MinceR | yet you claim he was sane | Jun 22 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | It's not just this particular example, the whole Stalin's reign was like that. | Jun 22 16:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: of course you would | Jun 22 16:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you worship evil in all forms | Jun 22 16:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its what the history document support. | Jun 22 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You claimed he was a complete evil looney | Jun 22 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I have to scale that down | Jun 22 16:44 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: which he was | Jun 22 16:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: sure it is | Jun 22 16:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you just need to find the right "document"s | Jun 22 16:44 |
| MinceR | or write them. | Jun 22 16:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that they run out of food before they genocide rationing starts. | Jun 22 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's the kind of looking at history done in cartoons. | Jun 22 16:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you would think a planned one they would have had safe stock piles for themselves. | Jun 22 16:45 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: no, unfortunately that's the kind of behavior humans cultivate in some eras | Jun 22 16:45 |
| MinceR | like in the present one | Jun 22 16:45 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: they didn't live in ukraine. | Jun 22 16:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: all areas of russia has food restrictions in that time. | Jun 22 16:45 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And so you think it's plausable that he intentionally designed the famine. | Jun 22 16:45 |
| MinceR | apparently cartoonishly extreme evil is so unbelievable that people ignore it | Jun 22 16:46 |
| MinceR | and even defend it | Jun 22 16:46 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Evidence is against it. | Jun 22 16:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: just ukraine and other areas to fatal levels. | Jun 22 16:46 |
| MinceR | clever ploy | Jun 22 16:46 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: not the evidence i saw | Jun 22 16:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: include some areas pro russia. | Jun 22 16:46 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If that was the case, how did USSR managed to survive Stalin at all? | Jun 22 16:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: most russians were almost as worthless to stalin and his pals as ukrainians were | Jun 22 16:46 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: good question | Jun 22 16:46 |
| MinceR | bad luck, i guess | Jun 22 16:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you might want to look into the concept of the totalitarian dictatorship. | Jun 22 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | It's like thinking that the real Hitler's agenda was to destroy Germany. | Jun 22 16:47 |
| MinceR | that it would have inescapably lead to destroying germany? | Jun 22 16:48 |
| MinceR | s/ea/e/ | Jun 22 16:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is genocide by design and genocide by opportunity. I see those famines are genoside by opportunity. Where there is not enough resources so you allocate them out in a bias way. | Jun 22 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | Hitler actually loved Jews and hated Germans, it all was a part of the plan to give Jews Israel and divide Germany into two parts. amarait? no? | Jun 22 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | I hope nobody will quote that %). | Jun 22 16:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also genoside by opportunity have happened in non totalitarian countries. | Jun 22 16:49 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: good for you, i guess | Jun 22 16:50 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: it is publicly logged | Jun 22 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You know, as long as nobody rips it out of context. | Jun 22 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | I am doomed. | Jun 22 16:51 |
| MinceR | we all are | Jun 22 16:51 |
| MinceR | we live on a planet infested with humans and we can't escape | Jun 22 16:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland) another case of poorly planned farming. | Jun 22 16:51 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: history is has famine after famine caused by poor government and farm planning. Some of those turn into genosides when it comes to how aid and food resources will be provided. | Jun 22 16:53 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: like in the case of "not at all" | Jun 22 16:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and the genosides are not restricted to one government type. | Jun 22 16:54 |
| oiaohm | So everyone no matter the country they are in should be have some worry about food production. | Jun 22 16:54 |
| MinceR | especially in dictatorships | Jun 22 16:55 |
| MinceR | and even more so in dictatorships running a command economy | Jun 22 16:55 |
| oiaohm | Funny part is some dictatorships have handled famine well. | Jun 22 16:55 |
| oiaohm | With no genoside. | Jun 22 16:55 |
| oiaohm | Mainly because the dictatorship was well managed and allowed for the existence of proper food stock piles so when thing went wrong there was a decent buffer. | Jun 22 16:57 |
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| MinceR | the only way to manage a dictatorship well is to abolish it | Jun 22 16:57 |
| MinceR | oppression always harms the economy | Jun 22 16:57 |
| MinceR | this is something humans seem to have difficulty understanding nowadays | Jun 22 16:58 |
| oiaohm | When it comes to the famine question is about management of resources and storage of resources. This is not something that particularly favours any political model. | Jun 22 16:59 |
| MinceR | you have interesting misconceptions | Jun 22 16:59 |
| oiaohm | Its more how good are your public servents at doing their jobs. | Jun 22 16:59 |
| MinceR | also depends on what their jobs are | Jun 22 17:00 |
| MinceR | it usually includes ensuring that a parasite such as stalin is well fed | Jun 22 17:00 |
| MinceR | and in the case of the holodomor, also ensuring that ukrainians starve to death | Jun 22 17:00 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: How would you rate Stalin in a unit of poetterings? | Jun 22 17:06 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 22 17:10 |
| MinceR | i have better things to do than to rate assholes | Jun 22 17:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the holodomor case is hard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power People forget at that point Hitler is already in power in Germany. Russia is not wanting to appear weak. | Jun 22 17:11 |
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| MinceR | right, the usual fascistic obsession with "strength" | Jun 22 17:12 |
| MinceR | same as today | Jun 22 17:12 |
| MinceR | but i guess once you've managed to starve your entire population to death, the other dictators will no longer doubt your strength! | Jun 22 17:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no matter the government type the obsession with strength can exist leading to very bad choice making. | Jun 22 17:13 |
| MinceR | totally worth not even having an army anymore | Jun 22 17:13 |
| MinceR | or food | Jun 22 17:13 |
| MinceR | it's not a question of government type | Jun 22 17:13 |
| MinceR | it's a question of human mental issues | Jun 22 17:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you do a chart of famine in the USA at the moment it looks lot like the 1933 russia one. People forget 1 in 6 people in the USA are starving to death. | Jun 22 17:16 |
| MinceR | and which ethnic group is seen as rebellious by the government? | Jun 22 17:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes it ethnically zoned. | Jun 22 17:16 |
| MinceR | and how many have died in a year so far? | Jun 22 17:17 |
| abeNd-org | & how many that aren't starving are obese? | Jun 22 17:18 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: USA only really takes out 4000 a year that way for about the last 50 odd years. | Jun 22 17:20 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: also being obese is also ethnically zoned in the USA. | Jun 22 17:20 |
| oiaohm | So if the USA does not stave the people to death they feed them on crap food and have them with shorter lives due to being obese. | Jun 22 17:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: USA has not had excuse of famine for this to be able to write off more people. | Jun 22 17:22 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yet you're trying to equate that to the holodomor | Jun 22 17:24 |
| oiaohm | Its the same behavour. | Jun 22 17:24 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 22 17:24 |
| oiaohm | famine equals that behavour accelerated. | Jun 22 17:25 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 22 17:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.worldhunger.org/hunger-in-america-2016-united-states-hunger-poverty-facts/ | Jun 22 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldhunger.org | United States Hunger Facts, Poverty Facts 2016 - World Hunger News [ http://ur1.ca/r1imv ] | Jun 22 17:26 | |
| oiaohm | Areas where 20 percent of the population are not getting enough food now MinceR | Jun 22 17:27 |
| oiaohm | Add in a famine effects on top of the USA current state you have a mess. | Jun 22 17:27 |
| MinceR | no, i don't | Jun 22 17:27 |
| oiaohm | If you know what you are looking at you can find the same warning patterns before holodomor. | Jun 22 17:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lot of these disasters don't happen without warning signs. | Jun 22 17:30 |
| MinceR | so how is the food requisitioning and confiscation going in the usa? | Jun 22 17:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: going perfectly well by the usage of money. | Jun 22 17:33 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 22 17:33 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/why-does-the-govt-pay-farmers/ really you are ingoring basic things like this. | Jun 22 17:36 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: you're confusing different things with each other | Jun 22 17:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: don't have to requisition or confiscate the food if you have paid a farmer not to produce it. | Jun 22 17:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the result is the same. | Jun 22 17:37 |
| abeNd-org | oiaohm: lol, no, I would say just about all US citizens are obese, rare is it that someone bothers to actually eat healthy | Jun 22 17:37 |
| abeNd-org | oiaohm: zoning has nothing to do with fatties | Jun 22 17:37 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: http://www.worldhunger.org/hunger-in-america-2016-united-states-hunger-poverty-facts/ << the 1/6 are not obese they are in fact under weight. | Jun 22 17:37 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you don't have to anyway, that's not the issue | Jun 22 17:37 |
| MinceR | it is in fact still possible to live as a decent, civilized, intelligent being | Jun 22 17:38 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: USA is a area of polar opposites. | Jun 22 17:38 |
| MinceR | it's just that most humans don't | Jun 22 17:38 |
| abeNd-org | oiaohm: it would help if those folks actually ate real food, not crap fast food | Jun 22 17:38 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: those number are about people who cannot even by enough crap food. | Jun 22 17:38 |
| abeNd-org | pretty much anything in a drive through or boxed is trash food | Jun 22 17:38 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: so you have both the starving an the obsese in the USA. | Jun 22 17:39 |
| abeNd-org | oiaohm: sure they can, they can afford drugs, big screen TVs, iphone7+ | Jun 22 17:39 |
| abeNd-org | it is a choice | Jun 22 17:40 |
| abeNd-org | but, naaaa, personal responsibility, it is someone else's fault! | Jun 22 17:41 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: personal responsibility only gets someone so far. Areas where people are where the only food on sale is junk is big problems in the USA. Areas in the USA with no effective jobs is another. | Jun 22 17:43 |
| abeNd-org | so what did people do before the industrial revolution? surely people were able to eat then right? | Jun 22 17:44 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: also it does not help that USA graphs on obsese are done like https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity So everyone under a healthy weight gets called normal. | Jun 22 17:44 |
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| abeNd-org | oiaohm: that is the problem, obese is considered "normal", a triple bypass is not "normal" | Jun 22 17:45 |
| oiaohm | Once you subtact the ones staving. less than 8 percent of the USA population is in the heathly range. | Jun 22 17:45 |
| abeNd-org | oh yea, you don't need a study to see that, just people watch at the mall | Jun 22 17:47 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: so either obese or starving with very little in the middle. | Jun 22 17:48 |
| abeNd-org | it doesnt matter age range, ethnicity, sex, whatever other demographic, this country is full of lazy fatties | Jun 22 17:48 |
| oiaohm | saying lazy fatties is not exactly true. | Jun 22 17:49 |
| abeNd-org | & it is their own fault, sure they could eat healthy & have a modest amount of movement per work, but nope, fatties it is! | Jun 22 17:49 |
| abeNd-org | obese/fatties/whatever politically correct boring pandering wording you want to use to make everyone feel better | Jun 22 17:49 |
| oiaohm | Poor food will equal over weight. Remember some places in the USA only food shops are fast food. | Jun 22 17:49 |
| abeNd-org | yes, & again, what did people do before the industrial revolution & everything came in a box? | Jun 22 17:50 |
| abeNd-org | did people eat then? | Jun 22 17:50 |
| abeNd-org | I guess they didn't & humanity starved to death, the species ceased to exist | Jun 22 17:50 |
| abeNd-org | bummer | Jun 22 17:50 |
| oiaohm | Not everyone before the industrial revolution was healthly either. | Jun 22 17:50 |
| abeNd-org | they had such potential Jean-Luc Picard | Jun 22 17:51 |
| oiaohm | wood shaving in bread was not exactly that hot. | Jun 22 17:51 |
| oiaohm | Maybe that would help some of the health level of faster food mandate pre industrial revolution bread. | Jun 22 17:52 |
| abeNd-org | or if people tried a little bit of science backed lifestyle changes ala https://nutritionfacts.org/ | Jun 22 17:53 |
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| oiaohm | abeNd-org: people talk about eating the cardboard box that it would be better for you. The reality is some of the food before the industrial revolution was exactly taht. | Jun 22 17:53 |
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| abeNd-org | don't eat the cardboard box, & don't eat the contents either, eat real food instead | Jun 22 17:54 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: bread of the middle ages it was not uncommon to be bulked out with like saw dust. | Jun 22 17:55 |
| abeNd-org | yes, what is considered corporate greed existed back then as well | Jun 22 17:56 |
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| oiaohm | abeNd-org: saw dust does not have a weight gain problem. | Jun 22 17:57 |
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| abeNd-org | however, most people took food production into their own hands, what is so wrong with a community garden these days, plenty of land even in the most desolate food deserts | Jun 22 17:57 |
| oiaohm | High fat, high suger and high salt basically that was not before the industrial revolution in large amounts. | Jun 22 17:58 |
| abeNd-org | do you see me advocating high salt/sugar/fat diet? no, I suggest https://nutritionfacts.org/ | Jun 22 17:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @bestariwebhost https://t.co/jzducaJpGr (www.tuxmachines.org) #nvidia | Jun 22 18:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 22 18:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/877948526063362048 | Jun 22 18:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linus #Torvalds Explains How #Linux Still Surprises and | Jun 22 18:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Motivates Him https://t.co/oqSYEGpah0 | Jun 22 18:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernel #development #programming | Jun 22 18:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #openSUSE Tumbleweed Jumps On Qt 5.9, Picks Up Default | Jun 22 19:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #MP3 | Jun 22 19:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | death is good news for #gnu #linux | Jun 22 19:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Tumbleweed Jumps On Qt 5.9, Picks Up Default MP3 | Tux Machines | Jun 22 19:04 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/press | Jun 22 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Press | Jun 22 19:48 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 22 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 22 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | Will the Ford Focus jobs heading for China under Trump, after he promised to save them from Mexico, have suicide nets at the factory, just like crApple's suppliers do? | Jun 22 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Part of a comment I left for one of our US Senators. | Jun 22 19:50 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 22 19:51 |
| MinceR | http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1611 | Jun 22 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 06/15/2017 | Jun 22 19:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40366816 | Jun 22 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-California earthquake alarm sounded - 92 years late - BBC News | Jun 22 20:01 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, A computer error caused a warning for an earthquake that happened in 1925 to be issued by the US federal government, with the warning dated for June of 2025. | Jun 22 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Wow, we're so good we can predict them 8 years out? Trump Making America Great Again! | Jun 22 20:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 22 20:03 |
| schestowitz | he makes it great... not for everyone | Jun 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | privatisation is stealing of what's public | Jun 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | for the benefit of "job creators" like Trump | Jun 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | so the public is getting impoverished, poorer, without quite feeling it yet | Jun 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | public assets auctioned off | Jun 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | like USSR after the collapse | Jun 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | the oligarchs are Trump's friends | Jun 22 20:05 |
| MinceR | on the long term, for nobody | Jun 22 20:05 |
| MinceR | but dump will be dead by then, probably | Jun 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | and Kushner is among the recipients, just like in russia where putin's mates are family-like/kins | Jun 22 20:05 |
| MinceR | his stupid kids may have to face the consequences though | Jun 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | naa, they'll be rich | Jun 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | if the pitchforks come they'll move to NZ or something | Jun 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | where you can BUY a citizenship and get protected by the crony gov | Jun 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Peter Thiel already did that | Jun 22 20:06 |
| MinceR | being rich will not necessary save them | Jun 22 20:08 |
| MinceR | bombs, diseases, rising sea levels don't discriminate that much | Jun 22 20:09 |
| MinceR | and if the state fails, their money may well become worthless | Jun 22 20:09 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yeah, like how Trump cuts public housing, except for Section 8 vouchers, where he makes several million dollars a year as a slum landlord. | Jun 22 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, We're a long ways off from the government failing here. | Jun 22 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | There's plenty that are in line ahead of us | Jun 22 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Most of Europe, for example. | Jun 22 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois is like an American version of Greece though, so there's some similarities. | Jun 22 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Huge debt, staggering unemploymnet. | Jun 22 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | But the US average isn't *that* bad. | Jun 22 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois managed to promise more and more to public unions each year without actually setting money aside for things like pensions. | Jun 22 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | And now it's sitting on top of $140 billion in unfunded pensions and $14 billion of unpaid bills. | Jun 22 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | And that's just at the state level. | Jun 22 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | The state Comptroller recently warned that soon 100% of state revenue will be spent on court mandated payments, and the state might start missing bond payments. | Jun 22 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | Once that happens, it's going to be contagion for the government bond market. | Jun 22 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | We've never reached a point where an entire state has failed. | Jun 22 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | Just some large cities. | Jun 22 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | A county here and there. | Jun 22 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | Congress will be forced to pass a state bankruptcy law of some sort because Illinois will be in bankruptcy whether a court restructures anything or not. | Jun 22 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | Once you miss bond payments, either nobody loans you money or it'll be the sovereign equivalent of a payday loan. | Jun 22 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | So overnight the state will have to cut spending to cash on hand. | Jun 22 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | That means cuts on nearly everything, except the pensions, because the unions got those crammed into the state's constitution, but at that point voters will be screaming "You're taking care of them and not us!" and will force a constitutional amendment through the ballot process to void the pensions. | Jun 22 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | So, the Republicans will get what they want now or later, and shit, maybe even I vote to void the pensions. | Jun 22 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | The state is a big trash fire. | Jun 22 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | Believe me, voiding pensions entirely is not what I want to do, but you can't have a situation where all state spending is on pensions. | Jun 22 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have nothing for health care, infrastructure, education... All in bad shape right now. | Jun 22 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | At the very least, deep cuts to the pensions are necessary at this point. | Jun 22 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | Both sides are blaming each other. They figure that they can blame the other one for the wreckage and rebuild Illinois in their image once the other one is gone. | Jun 22 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 22 20:42 |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/2dy5f | Jun 22 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rock Climbing Cat. - Album on Imgur | Jun 22 21:09 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruMn_8p9qmk | Jun 22 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cat climbs up a wall. - YouTube | Jun 22 21:15 | |
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| cubexyz | Mincer, life on earth survived the Permian-Triassic extinction event | Jun 22 22:49 |
| cubexyz | so it should survive anything that humans do, assuming they don | Jun 22 22:49 |
| cubexyz | t deliberately make a doomsday device or something really stupid | Jun 22 22:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Darth_Vikkyo/status/878006530452340737 | Jun 22 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Darth_Vikkyo: @schestowitz @Joly_2u @wikileaks This coming from the same guy who swindled South American Cartels? | Jun 22 22:52 | |
| cubexyz | also grey goo would never happen | Jun 22 22:53 |
| cubexyz | replicating nanomachines would just run out of useable material | Jun 22 22:53 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: humans won't, though | Jun 22 22:54 |
| cubexyz | so the show goes on | Jun 22 22:54 |
| MinceR | also, the planet is made of usable material :> | Jun 22 22:54 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: and dump's offspring are humans | Jun 22 22:54 |
| cubexyz | Trump is merely a selfish materialist | Jun 22 22:57 |
| cubexyz | people won't vote him a 2nd term | Jun 22 22:58 |
| cubexyz | at least, I sure hope not | Jun 22 22:58 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/ZOk8I | Jun 22 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Attention to detail level: 100,000 - Album on Imgur | Jun 22 23:03 | |
| schestowitz | trump uses BreitFart as a source: 瑨灴㩳⼯睴瑩整�潣⽭敲污潄慮摬牔浵⽰瑳瑡獵㠯㠷〰㤶㐶㜰ㄲ㤸㔹 | Jun 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/878006964072189952 | Jun 22 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@realDonaldTrump: As promised, our campaign against the MS-13 gang continues. "@ICEgov Busts 39 MS-13 Members in New York Operation" https://t.co/ki41GXeCMy | Jun 22 23:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.breitbart.com | ICE Busts 39 MS-13 Members in New York Operation | Jun 22 23:04 | |
| MinceR | of course he does | Jun 22 23:04 |
| MinceR | he's aligned with the altReich | Jun 22 23:04 |
| MinceR | or at least was | Jun 22 23:04 |
| cubexyz | Trump is mainly a bullshit artist | Jun 22 23:56 |
| cubexyz | once people understand that... that should be the end of president Trump | Jun 22 23:57 |
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| cubexyz | ironic that I have the source to microsoft solitaire and not loki's EUS | Jun 23 00:27 |
| cubexyz | in fact I don't have the source to any loki game | Jun 23 00:27 |
| cubexyz | got to look into VCMI though | Jun 23 00:28 |
| cubexyz | and there's OpenHOMM | Jun 23 00:30 |
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| cubexyz | hmmm, debian wheezy might be worth another look | Jun 23 00:45 |
| cubexyz | it's got VCMI in contrib, that would save a lot of time | Jun 23 00:46 |
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| cubexyz | using windows now would feel foreign to me | Jun 23 03:58 |
| cubexyz | definitely not missing it | Jun 23 03:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Moto E4 #Android smartphone review | Jun 23 04:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BXeT9S4AFY (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 23 04:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Moto E4 Android smartphone review | Tux Machines | Jun 23 04:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Moto E4 review: Keeping it simple https://t.co/6FX0eNVuVN | Jun 23 05:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux | Jun 23 05:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Moto E4 review: Keeping it simple | Tux Machines | Jun 23 05:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Moto E4 review: Keeping it simple https://t.co/6FX0eNVuVN | Jun 23 05:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux | Jun 23 05:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/BXeT9S4AFY (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 23 07:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based | Jun 23 07:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @scas on #Debian 9 "Stretch" https://t.co/2ThYGvHigg | Jun 23 07:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 23 07:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 23 07:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878142916400697344 | Jun 23 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #SteamVR, Controller, Sale, and #CryENGINE | Jun 23 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TdizmYPKIB (www.tuxmachines.org) #steamos | Jun 23 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #steam #games | Jun 23 07:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam VR, Controller, Sale, and CryENGINE | Tux Machines | Jun 23 07:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #SteamVR, Controller, Sale, and #CryENGINE https://t.co/TdizmYPKIB ...' | Jun 23 07:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #SteamVR, Controller, Sale, and #CryENGINE https://t.co/TdizmYPKIB ...' | Jun 23 07:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878144678469574656 | Jun 23 07:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE: #digiKam 5.6.0, #KOrganizer, Robert Kaye, and IMEs | Jun 23 07:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ApkOfRqhmg (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #gnu | Jun 23 07:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #plasma | Jun 23 07:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: digiKam 5.6.0, KOrganizer, Robert Kaye, and IMEs | Tux Machines | Jun 23 07:59 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS: GitHub Survey, Dash, Tensor2Tensor, Istio and More | Tux Machines | Jun 23 08:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Chromebook and PCs With #GNU #Linux | Jun 23 08:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Rugged Android ADAS computer does surround-view | Jun 23 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | monitoring and tracking | Jun 23 08:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged Android ADAS computer does surround-view monitoring and tracking | Tux Machines | Jun 23 08:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Servers: #Infrakit & #LinuxKit, #CMTL, #ServiceMaster, | Jun 23 08:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Synology, #Ubuntu, and #NeuVector | Jun 23 08:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: Infrakit & LinuxKit, CMTL, ServiceMaster, Synology, Ubuntu, and NeuVector | Tux Machines | Jun 23 08:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 23 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/G4xQxBkOTS (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix #gnu | Jun 23 08:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 23 08:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/G4xQxBkOTS #unix #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 08:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/G4xQxBkOTS #unix #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 08:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878159335242727424 | Jun 23 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat : #BritishArmy Deal, | Jun 23 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #HyperconvergedInfrastructure, #OpenShift, Soaring Share | Jun 23 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Price, and #Fedora | Jun 23 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LYcQr8gxwN (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 23 08:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat: British Army Deal, Hyperconverged Infrastructure, OpenShift, Soaring Share Price, and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jun 23 08:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#RedHat : #BritishArmy Deal, #HyperconvergedInfrastructure, #OpenShift, Soaring Share...' | Jun 23 08:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat : #BritishArmy Deal, #HyperconvergedInfrastructure, #OpenShift, Soaring Share...' | Jun 23 09:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878166015296716800 | Jun 23 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | In a matter of 2 months @tuxmachines at #mastodon gained | Jun 23 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | as many followers as #twitter in 3 years, The network | Jun 23 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | effect is there.... | Jun 23 09:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878166869987008512 | Jun 23 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME / #GSOC Development and Cascade Windows in | Jun 23 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOMEShell | Jun 23 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/luoiSLEhBb (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 23 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 09:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME/GSOC Development and Cascade Windows in GNOME Shell | Tux Machines | Jun 23 09:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME / #GSOC Development and Cascade Windows in...' | Jun 23 09:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878168552406081537 | Jun 23 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tumbleweed Development and Laptop Experience | Jun 23 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EgWRwx3HYD (www.tuxmachines.org) #suse | Jun 23 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #opensuse #gnu #linux | Jun 23 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 09:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tumbleweed Development and Laptop Experience | Tux Machines | Jun 23 09:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878169231111540737 | Jun 23 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Development Updates: #GDM, #Kernel, and #Ubuntu | Jun 23 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone | Jun 23 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wJW9yOYDqB (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 23 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #gnome | Jun 23 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 09:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Development Updates: GDM, Kernel, and Ubuntu Phone | Tux Machines | Jun 23 09:41 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tumbleweed Development and Laptop Experience https://t.co/EgWRwx3HYD #suse...' | Jun 23 09:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Development Updates: #GDM, #Kernel, and #Ubuntu Phone...' | Jun 23 09:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Development Updates: #GDM, #Kernel, and #Ubuntu Phone...' | Jun 23 09:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/bestariwebhost/status/878173858422861824 | Jun 23 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Ubuntu Development Updates: #GDM, #Kernel, and #Ubuntu | Jun 23 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @bestariwebhost Phone | Jun 23 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wJW9yOYDqB (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 23 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #gnome | Jun 23 10:19 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @cybershellsec retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Development Updates: #GDM, #Kernel, and #Ubuntu Phone...' | Jun 23 10:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @TheUbuntuDaily https://twitter.com/TheUbuntuDaily/status/878190532568035329 | Jun 23 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest The #Ubuntu Daily! https://t.co/CPCjdnyPPn | Jun 23 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines @ranayasirnu | Jun 23 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ubuntu_street #ubuntu #linux | Jun 23 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The #Ubuntu Daily | Jun 23 11:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 11:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @oldestlivingboy favourited 'Swimming with #SharkLinux https://t.co/NZBKaJFq0x #gnu #linux' | Jun 23 11:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20170619#sharklinux ) | Jun 23 11:56 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @oldestlivingboy favourited 'Raspberry Pi With Open Port 22 https://t.co/dPPvhbf26Y #raspi...' | Jun 23 12:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/101843 ) | Jun 23 12:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @adymitruk favourited 'KDE: #digiKam 5.6.0, #KOrganizer, Robert Kaye, and IMEs...' | Jun 23 13:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/adymitruk/status/878223683315056640 | Jun 23 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE: #digiKam 5.6.0, #KOrganizer, Robert Kaye, and IMEs | Jun 23 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @adymitruk https://t.co/ApkOfRqhmg (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #gnu | Jun 23 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #plasma | Jun 23 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 15:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: digiKam 5.6.0, KOrganizer, Robert Kaye, and IMEs | Tux Machines | Jun 23 15:27 | |
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| XRevan86 | - I, across the apartment: Putin will be re-electing. | Jun 23 15:55 |
| XRevan86 | - Mum: Good. | Jun 23 15:55 |
| MinceR | :( | Jun 23 15:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/878260857200795651 | Jun 23 16:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based | Jun 23 16:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @AlejosAngel on #Debian 9 "Stretch" https://t.co/2ThYGvHigg | Jun 23 16:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 23 16:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 16:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.6 Released as First GNU/Linux Distro Based on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 23 16:00 | |
| schestowitz | [15:55] <XRevan86> - I, across the apartment: Putin will be re-electing. | Jun 23 16:11 |
| schestowitz | eelcted? | Jun 23 16:11 |
| schestowitz | or electing (himself)? | Jun 23 16:11 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: he will run for office | Jun 23 16:11 |
| schestowitz | maybe he'll find another one to swap PM position with | Jun 23 16:11 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: "run" | Jun 23 16:11 |
| schestowitz | In Putin's Russia, Office runs YOU! | Jun 23 16:11 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: He doesn't need to, it'll be his only second time in a row | Jun 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | hahaha! | Jun 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I know | Jun 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | after an hiatus | Jun 23 16:12 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: yep | Jun 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | maybe he can later change the rules like Battistelli does | Jun 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Mubarak was president for how long? 30 years? | Jun 23 16:12 |
| MinceR | re-electing himself | Jun 23 16:13 |
| schestowitz | good luck to him! | Jun 23 16:15 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure he'll manage | Jun 23 16:15 |
| schestowitz | or else some people are going to fall out of windows | Jun 23 16:15 |
| MinceR | or disappear from the street | Jun 23 16:17 |
| MinceR | or accidentally end up with polonium in their tea | Jun 23 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | The news article states that he himself didn't say that he will, but his campaign is already in work anyway. | Jun 23 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | so even without the official confirmation it's already evident | Jun 23 16:17 |
| schestowitz | [16:17] <MinceR> or accidentally end up with polonium in their tea | Jun 23 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Along with staff in the refectory/cafeteria | Jun 23 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Putin likes nuclear options | Jun 23 16:25 |
| schestowitz | the "drone strike"/"nuke strike" hero | Jun 23 16:25 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @LeslieAnderso28 favourited '#Devuan and #Debian Updates https://t.co/tiILyrgU9i #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 16:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan and Debian Updates | Tux Machines | Jun 23 16:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878275250877747200 | Jun 23 16:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | University of #Missouri Adopts #OpenAccess | Jun 23 16:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/amEccgdc2w (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 16:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 16:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | University of Missouri Adopts Open Access | Tux Machines | Jun 23 16:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878275481040285696 | Jun 23 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by University of #Missouri Adopts #OpenAccess | Jun 23 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/amEccgdc2w (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878282642990391296 | Jun 23 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gThumb : View and manage your photos in #Fedora | Jun 23 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aPdRCV4lPr (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 23 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | gThumb: View and manage your photos in Fedora | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878282851250294784 | Jun 23 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Manjaro 17.0.1 Gellivara (Che Guevara) - Pretty decent | Jun 23 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iX0lcpJK7k (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 17.0.1 Gellivara (Che Guevara) - Pretty decent | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @technologytales retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Manjaro 17.0.1 Gellivara (Che Guevara) - Pretty decent...' | Jun 23 17:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#gThumb : View and manage your photos in...' | Jun 23 17:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Manjaro 17.0.1 Gellivara (Che Guevara) - Pretty decent...' | Jun 23 17:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878285080564609024 | Jun 23 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | No-frills networking appliance runs #Linux on Apollo Lake | Jun 23 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ibQYCvoy8n (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WinEnterprises | Jun 23 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | No-frills networking appliance runs Linux on Apollo Lake | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:17 | |
| XRevan86 | https://hitech.newsru.com/article/23jun2017/dumavpn1 I don't even | Jun 23 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | "The State Duma approved the bill about forbidding VPN and anonymisers in first reading" | Jun 23 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hitech.newsru.com | ???? ???? ?????? ? ???? VPN ? ??????? ? ??? ???? | Jun 23 17:23 | |
| XRevan86 | > charset=windows-1251 | Jun 23 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | TechrightsBot-tr: You're really good at it. | Jun 23 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/kaddourkardio/status/878285761946275840 | Jun 23 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by University of #Missouri Adopts #OpenAccess | Jun 23 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @kaddourkardio https://t.co/amEccgdc2w (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | University of Missouri Adopts Open Access | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'No-frills networking appliance runs #Linux on Apollo Lake...' | Jun 23 17:26 | |
| schestowitz | Please help spread; | Jun 23 17:29 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2017/06/23/introduction-to-epo/ Primer to the Crisis and Scandals at the European Patent Office (EPO) | Jun 23 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Primer to the Crisis and Scandals at the European Patent Office (EPO) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/r1thq ] | Jun 23 17:29 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: the bot was developed by an old IRC member, Tony | Jun 23 17:29 |
| schestowitz | when he was a teen | Jun 23 17:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'No-frills networking appliance runs #Linux on Apollo Lake...' | Jun 23 17:35 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Does it have source code? | Jun 23 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878290541565358081 | Jun 23 17:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | That #OpenSUSE Tablet So Far Is A Dud | Jun 23 17:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vjXRlwlbho (www.tuxmachines.org) #suse #gnu | Jun 23 17:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 23 17:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | That OpenSUSE Tablet So Far Is A Dud | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'That #OpenSUSE Tablet So Far Is A Dud...' | Jun 23 17:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878291496524435456 | Jun 23 17:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/UKrUNyfDkd | Jun 23 17:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #androidO #sony #chromebook | Jun 23 17:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #samsung #vr #linux #google | Jun 23 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/UKrUNyfDkd #androidO #sony #chromebook #samsung ...' | Jun 23 17:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878292722427318272 | Jun 23 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Vulkan vs. #OpenGL With The #Radeon RX 470 On An Intel | Jun 23 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xeon | Jun 23 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mUd6eET2ol (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphics | Jun 23 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark #gnu #linux | Jun 23 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vulkan vs. OpenGL With The Radeon RX 470 On An Intel Xeon | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Vulkan vs. #OpenGL With The #Radeon RX 470...' | Jun 23 17:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Vulkan vs. #OpenGL With The #Radeon RX 470...' | Jun 23 17:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/878294697592053761 | Jun 23 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Android Leftovers https://t.co/UKrUNyfDkd | Jun 23 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) #androidO #sony #chromebook | Jun 23 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #samsung #vr #linux #google | Jun 23 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878295705764364288 | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The role of open source software in telecommunications | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nYPIrSDc73 (www.rcrwireless.com) #freesw | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rcrwireless.com | The role of open source software in telecommunications | Jun 23 17:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878296187580932098 | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.12 Ubuntu Benchmarks With AMD Ryzen, Intel | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kabylake - 12 Systems https://t.co/itHErc1SvM | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #benchmark #gnu #linux #benchmark | Jun 23 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 17:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.12 Ubuntu Benchmarks With AMD Ryzen, Intel Kabylake - 12 Systems | Tux Machines | Jun 23 17:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The role of open source software in telecommunications...' | Jun 23 17:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.12 Ubuntu Benchmarks With AMD Ryzen, Intel...' | Jun 23 18:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ExponetUSA/status/878296593350479872 | Jun 23 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Vulkan vs. #OpenGL With The #Radeon RX 470 On An Intel | Jun 23 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Does it only show titles? | Jun 23 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ExponetUSA Xeon | Jun 23 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mUd6eET2ol (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphics | Jun 23 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark #gnu #linux | Jun 23 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vulkan vs. OpenGL With The Radeon RX 470 On An Intel Xeon | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:05 | |
| XRevan86 | https://newsru.com/russia/23jun2017/navalnycikrf.html Navalny has been excluded from the race. | Jun 23 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NEWSru.com :: ЦИК РФ поставил вне избирательного законодательства штабы Навального и его выдвижение кандидатом в президенты | Jun 23 18:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878299896293359616 | Jun 23 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tizen (Linux) and #Samsung | Jun 23 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4eEbFuUUUl (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizenos | Jun 23 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 23 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen (Linux) and Samsung | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:17 | |
| XRevan86 | How random, this page on newsru.com is with UTF-8 %). | Jun 23 18:21 |
| XRevan86 | or was he excluded? at least now the Central Election Commission says he can't | Jun 23 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | it's really confusing | Jun 23 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878300995737927680 | Jun 23 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Tizen (Linux) and #Samsung | Jun 23 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/4eEbFuUUUl (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizenos | Jun 23 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 23 18:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878304173640605696 | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #Machinarium , #SeriousSam 3 and More | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cfbMn6yVfM (www.tuxmachines.org) #gaming | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #games #gnu #linux | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Machinarium, Serious Sam 3 and More | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878305496201125889 | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics in Linux: Mesa, GPUOpen, RadeonSI, Vulkan and | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenGL | Jun 23 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Graphics in Linux: Mesa, GPUOpen, RadeonSI, Vulkan and...' | Jun 23 18:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878305548982145024 | Jun 23 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics in Linux: #Mesa, #GPUOpen, #RadeonSI, #Vulkan | Jun 23 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and #OpenGL | Jun 23 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rKtrRfY09l (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 23 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux: Mesa, GPUOpen, RadeonSI, Vulkan and OpenGL | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #Machinarium , #SeriousSam 3 and More ...' | Jun 23 18:43 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics in Linux: #Mesa, #GPUOpen, #RadeonSI, #Vulkan and...' | Jun 23 18:49 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 23 18:49 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 23 18:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878308933017808896 | Jun 23 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rockstor: A Solid Cloud Storage Solution for Small or | Jun 23 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Home Office | Jun 23 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GqiuMiHmAd (www.tuxmachines.org) #Rockstor | Jun 23 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 18:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rockstor: A Solid Cloud Storage Solution for Small or Home Office | Tux Machines | Jun 23 18:51 | |
| razielle_tzu | hi sebsebseb | Jun 23 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 23 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: mostly a good day yesterday | Jun 23 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: computer stuff with a woman in after from LUG at her flat | Jun 23 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: got her to come to my other group in evening to, but not really for her right now, but she came so that's good | Jun 23 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: pm me | Jun 23 19:02 |
| MinceR | http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/22/18/41A5922000000578-4629882-image-a-7_1498152486663.jpg | Jun 23 19:06 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/precious | Jun 23 19:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Precious | Jun 23 19:40 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/8IHemLd | Jun 23 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I don't believe it - Imgur | Jun 23 20:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878309607122366464 | Jun 23 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Rockstor: A Solid Cloud Storage Solution for Small or | Jun 23 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Home Office | Jun 23 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GqiuMiHmAd (www.tuxmachines.org) #Rockstor | Jun 23 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 23 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 20:31 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/lBVcb | Jun 23 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Married Life !!!! - Album on Imgur | Jun 23 20:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878336924485914624 | Jun 23 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jonathan Riddell Releases #ISOImageWriter | Jun 23 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/etJ9ViF5r7 (www.tuxmachines.org) @jriddell | Jun 23 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kde #neon #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 23 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 20:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Jonathan Riddell Releases ISO Image Writer | Tux Machines | Jun 23 20:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Jonathan Riddell Releases #ISOImageWriter https://t.co/etJ9ViF5r7 @jriddell #kde #neon...' | Jun 23 20:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#Canonical Also Patches #Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Against the...' | Jun 23 20:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Jonathan Riddell Releases #ISOImageWriter https://t.co/etJ9ViF5r7 @jriddell #kde #neon...' | Jun 23 20:47 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/a-frankenstein | Jun 23 20:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - A Frankenstein [ http://ur1.ca/r1uoi ] | Jun 23 20:55 | |
| MinceR | http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-no-known-ransomware-windows-we-tried-to-hack-it/ | Jun 23 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft says 'no known ransomware' runs on Windows 10 S — so we tried to hack it | ZDNet | Jun 23 21:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | I found another bug. | Jun 23 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1464599 | Jun 23 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1464599 – Browsers that use WebkitGTK play some videos with severe distortion if using VA-API. | Jun 23 22:32 | |
| schestowitz | meh | Jun 23 22:34 |
| schestowitz | it's full of it | Jun 23 22:34 |
| schestowitz | I moved away | Jun 23 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They issued a fix for one of the WebkitGTK+ bugs I reported. | Jun 23 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | The one where it caused the entire Gnome Web browser to crash when trying to save images from discogs.com | Jun 23 22:35 |
| schestowitz | sounds pretty severe | Jun 23 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I've reported two bugs in Gnome Web itself and two in WebkitGTK+ in Fedora 26. | Jun 23 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | And working on a third one for Gnome Web. | Jun 23 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It's got problems. | Jun 23 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Well, any time you can reliably crash a program like a web browser, it's bad. | Jun 23 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Possible exploit. | Jun 23 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I've reported a ton of bugs so far, although I should probably send some upstream as well. | Jun 23 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Since I reported them to Fedora already, it should be copy and paste. | Jun 23 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Easytag corrupting vorbis comment on Ogg Vorbis files is a pretty nasty one. | Jun 23 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | It corrupts them in such a way that some of the audio data is occasionally corrupted and there's no way to fix the file after that. | Jun 23 22:43 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/Ch6m4 | Jun 23 22:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meanwhile at the grocery - Album on Imgur | Jun 23 22:45 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I can see why distributions tend not to install Gnome Web. | Jun 23 22:48 |
| MinceR | strange | Jun 23 22:48 |
| MinceR | most distros like crap | Jun 23 22:48 |
| schestowitz | systemd-web | Jun 23 22:49 |
| schestowitz | coming soon | Jun 23 22:49 |
| schestowitz | after LP's latest project | Jun 23 22:49 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 23 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Gnome is becoming an extension of systemd into the desktop. | Jun 23 22:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 23 22:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878370659792900096 | Jun 23 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 2.11 is Released | Jun 23 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IxycdSX4kl (www.tuxmachines.org) #wine #gnu | Jun 23 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #unix | Jun 23 22:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 2.11 is Released | Tux Machines | Jun 23 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 22:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Wine 2.11 is Released https://t.co/IxycdSX4kl #wine #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 22:56 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it just hasn't been gnomed yet | Jun 23 22:58 |
| schestowitz | dbus | Jun 23 22:58 |
| schestowitz | gtkd | Jun 23 22:58 |
| schestowitz | mutted | Jun 23 22:59 |
| schestowitz | evolutioned | Jun 23 22:59 |
| schestowitz | it ain't done until systemd will run | Jun 23 23:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=System76-Ubuntu-Update | Jun 23 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-System76 Continues Working On GNOME Improvements For Future Ubuntu - Phoronix | Jun 23 23:00 | |
| schestowitz | just now.. | Jun 23 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM-Vt87W3_A | Jun 23 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Like Humans Do - David Byrne - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r1v7f ] | Jun 23 23:00 | |
| DaemonFC | That was the track Microsoft included in Windows XP, but they removed the part about being stoned. | Jun 23 23:01 |
| MinceR | drugs are bad, m'kay? | Jun 23 23:01 |
| schestowitz | ballmer got pelted with eggs, close enough... | Jun 23 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Re Ubuntu, it's turning into Windows more or less. | Jun 23 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | Nasty EULA, have to sign in to Ubuntu One to download Snaps, etc. | Jun 23 23:02 |
| MinceR | and the morons love it | Jun 23 23:02 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Wine 2.11 is Released https://t.co/IxycdSX4kl #wine #gnu #linux...' | Jun 23 23:18 | |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: MinceR schestowitz had to sign in to ubuntu one to donwnload apps onto ubuntu phone or tablet | Jun 23 23:19 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: MinceR schestowitz having an offial snaps store that requires that, so what? | Jun 23 23:19 |
| MinceR | so it's a walled garden as well? | Jun 23 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878376688521928705 | Jun 23 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing | Jun 23 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "498 out of 500 supercomputers were running Linux." | Jun 23 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hpc | Jun 23 23:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux owns supercomputing | Tux Machines | Jun 23 23:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 23:20 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Correct. | Jun 23 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Snaps are: Bloated, centralized, and not widely supported. | Jun 23 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Flatpak is supported by multiple distros, including Ubuntu, out of the box, it is decentralized, and Flatpaks are smallish. | Jun 23 23:21 |
| MinceR | so how well do flatpaks work on a non-cancerous distro? | Jun 23 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | In some cases, Snaps are ten times the size of the same software in a Flatpak. | Jun 23 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They don't require systemd at all if that's what you mean. | Jun 23 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | they have made snaps samller | Jun 23 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | i read | Jun 23 23:22 |
| MinceR | so what do they require? | Jun 23 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | Earlier versions needed it to setup cgroups, but that's no longer true. | Jun 23 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Pretty much just the flatpak software afaik. | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | you can live in the past with | Jun 23 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | They don't need Gnome or systemd at all. | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | with init | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | xorg | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | etc | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | but the world wil move on of linux | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | to system d :D | Jun 23 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | and wayland and maybe btfs | Jun 23 23:23 |
| MinceR | sucks to be the world, then | Jun 23 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | btrfs is going nowhere. | Jun 23 23:24 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 23 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | well not maby distros have it by default | Jun 23 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | did suse do it i think ? | Jun 23 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | Most distros _support_ but do not default to btrfs. | Jun 23 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | jolla had or had by default for salifsh os | Jun 23 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | yep its so debatey | Jun 23 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's not really in a state where you'd want to use it. | Jun 23 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | why its not default yet | Jun 23 23:25 |
| MinceR | btrfs is in mainline Linux | Jun 23 23:25 |
| MinceR | but it's unreliable, afaik | Jun 23 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's very slow. | Jun 23 23:25 |
| MinceR | i tried it once, when i really needed block checksumming | Jun 23 23:25 |
| MinceR | and it died pretty quickly | Jun 23 23:25 |
| cubexyz | tons of people don't like systemd | Jun 23 23:25 |
| MinceR | i ended up relying on git for checking bit rot instead | Jun 23 23:26 |
| cubexyz | not to mention the BSDs and other alternatives | Jun 23 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | mir is nearly dead | Jun 23 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | for the time being ubports will still have to support, but that is transiting to wayland will be | Jun 23 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | and not sure about the yunit unity 8 fork, but possibly | Jun 23 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: BSD is not that reivent anymore, except for people like you | Jun 23 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | Linux Linux Linux is what its about | Jun 23 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | well | Jun 23 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | Windows kind of, Mincer 's beloved Mac OS X, and then Linux | Jun 23 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | market share wise yes | Jun 23 23:29 |
| cubexyz | Mincer doesn't use Mac, he hates apple | Jun 23 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | he loves Apple | Jun 23 23:30 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb knows that, he's just trolling | Jun 23 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | secretly, but alwasy denys it | Jun 23 23:30 |
| MinceR | i'm curious about how well the bsd-s support my new laptop | Jun 23 23:31 |
| MinceR | i suspect they won't :> | Jun 23 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | well there we go then | Jun 23 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | bsd even less relivent | Jun 23 23:31 |
| cubexyz | chromeos is the other obvious alternative | Jun 23 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | won't run on cerina new modern hardware | Jun 23 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: to what desktop linux? | Jun 23 23:31 |
| MinceR | the only good thing about chromeos is its firmware :> | Jun 23 23:31 |
| cubexyz | chromeos + crouton | Jun 23 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: Chrome OS is an altternaive to what desktop linux? | Jun 23 23:31 |
| MinceR | enable developer mode, boot a real OS | Jun 23 23:32 |
| cubexyz | sure, it can be | Jun 23 23:32 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: chromeos is sufficient for the needs of most lusers | Jun 23 23:32 |
| MinceR | especially now that it can run android apps too | Jun 23 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: losers? | Jun 23 23:32 |
| MinceR | lusers | Jun 23 23:32 |
| cubexyz | but I use chromeos with crouton which is basically chromeos with linux running inside it | Jun 23 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | whats lusers? | Jun 23 23:32 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/L/luser.html | Jun 23 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catb.org | luser | Jun 23 23:32 | |
| cubexyz | plus in the future it will be chromeos + linuxx + android all in one | Jun 23 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | Google can cater for the basic needs etc sure, and that's with both android and chormeos in this context, but there have been more interesitng altenaries | Jun 23 23:33 |
| sebsebseb | alough for mobile the only one that has a chance now it seems at going more main strmeae with commerical devices is salifsh os hmm | Jun 23 23:33 |
| *sebsebseb waits for the annoucment the proper one of the sony xpeira x it seems, with that hopefully pre loaded, not just a rom for it | Jun 23 23:33 | |
| cubexyz | btw openbsd was my 2nd most reliable OS after FC1 | Jun 23 23:33 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 23 23:33 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: to which ? | Jun 23 23:34 |
| MinceR | i guess you didn't do much package management, then | Jun 23 23:34 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: ratcrap garbage | Jun 23 23:34 |
| sebsebseb | uh | Jun 23 23:34 |
| MinceR | with their shitty excuse for a package manager | Jun 23 23:34 |
| sebsebseb | who? | Jun 23 23:34 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d "498 out...' | Jun 23 23:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux owns supercomputing | Tux Machines | Jun 23 23:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CerebralMisjif favourited '#GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d "498 out...' | Jun 23 23:34 | |
| MinceR | whatever-it-is-this-week/RPM | Jun 23 23:34 |
| cubexyz | there's no package manager with FC1 nowadays :) | Jun 23 23:34 |
| cubexyz | you know I'm Mr. Tarball | Jun 23 23:34 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 23 23:34 |
| MinceR | slackware was made for you | Jun 23 23:35 |
| cubexyz | I did eventually gravitate towards slack | Jun 23 23:35 |
| MinceR | i hardly had a choice | Jun 23 23:36 |
| MinceR | devuan refused to make any of the network interfaces on my new laptop work | Jun 23 23:36 |
| MinceR | trying to upgrade the kernel via backports resulted in broken x | Jun 23 23:36 |
| cubexyz | you're using slack on your laptop? | Jun 23 23:36 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 23 23:36 |
| MinceR | and it all just worked in slackware -current | Jun 23 23:36 |
| cubexyz | welcome to the club then :) | Jun 23 23:36 |
| MinceR | plus APT doesn't get to annoy me with shit like "but it is not going to be installed" | Jun 23 23:37 |
| MinceR | thanks | Jun 23 23:37 |
| MinceR | APT gets cryptic as hell the moment i stray off the beaten path | Jun 23 23:37 |
| cubexyz | you might like vector when they bring out their next version which should be soon | Jun 23 23:37 |
| MinceR | i'm not really fond of paying for my OS | Jun 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/CerebralMisjif/status/878380767751045120 | Jun 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing | Jun 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @CerebralMisjif https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "498 out of 500 supercomputers were running Linux." | Jun 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hpc | Jun 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 23:38 | |
| sebsebseb | does vecoter still sti? | Jun 23 23:38 |
| sebsebseb | sell | Jun 23 23:38 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 23 23:38 |
| MinceR | they tried the last time i cared | Jun 23 23:38 |
| cubexyz | well, the vector folks ask for support, you can still download the ISOs for free | Jun 23 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I saw an advertisement for a university here in Chicago. | Jun 23 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: one euro fo the hungarian wall os :d with a statue on top of the logo for it, of mincer trying to leave? | Jun 23 23:39 |
| cubexyz | I still run a couple of vector boxes | Jun 23 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Their ad was 14 lines of Java code. It asked "Are you up for the challenge?". | Jun 23 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878381727978319873 | Jun 23 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wine 2.11 is Released | Jun 23 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://t.co/IxycdSX4kl (www.tuxmachines.org) #wine #gnu | Jun 23 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #unix | Jun 23 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 23 23:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 2.11 is Released | Tux Machines | Jun 23 23:39 | |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i don't understand | Jun 23 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | I emailed them and said "Yeah, that's one line in Perl.". | Jun 23 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: it happens to be a Linux distro, that doesn't do much, without systemd, but yes that | Jun 23 23:39 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Jun 23 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: you would pay :D | Jun 23 23:39 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: you're mistaken | Jun 23 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | its worth one euro | Jun 23 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | :D | Jun 23 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | that is all | Jun 23 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: espeically dedicated to you, systemd haters, and people who want to potentially leave hungary :d | Jun 23 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | one euro is all it costs | Jun 23 23:41 |
| cubexyz | hungary is good, they invented the cube :) | Jun 23 23:41 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions#Slackware-based | Jun 23 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of Linux distributions - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r1vcs ] | Jun 23 23:42 | |
| sebsebseb | the cube | Jun 23 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | ? | Jun 23 23:42 |
| cubexyz | rubik's cube | Jun 23 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Jun 23 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | didnt know that | Jun 23 23:43 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: pretty small set | Jun 23 23:43 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Jun 23 23:43 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: they also destroyed the freedom that fell in their lap | Jun 23 23:43 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Jun 23 23:44 |
| cubexyz | as I've said before, I should have got into BSD as far back as 1995 | Jun 23 23:46 |
| cubexyz | perhaps even 1993 | Jun 23 23:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so how well do flatpaks work on a non-cancerous distro? << Down right perfectly flatpaks are even designed to use a non container solution if kernel does not have cgroups | Jun 23 23:46 |
| cubexyz | 1993 was a very significant year for operating systems | Jun 23 23:47 |
| cubexyz | Slackware 1.0 and FreeBSD 1.0 came out in 1993 | Jun 23 23:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/wiki/Sandbox Of course you nave never bothered check how flatpak works instead think that think it something out of redhat that it has to be some form of domination project. | Jun 23 23:48 |
| sebsebseb | and windows 3.1? | Jun 23 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sandbox · flatpak/flatpak Wiki · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/r1vdr ] | Jun 23 23:48 | |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: and windows 3.1 ? | Jun 23 23:48 |
| cubexyz | windows 3.1 was launched in april 1992, but yes it was around that time | Jun 23 23:48 |
| MinceR | could someone hit snooze on the redhat shill? | Jun 23 23:49 |
| cubexyz | also Minix 1.5 was released in 1991, but I had a lot of trouble with it | Jun 23 23:49 |
| cubexyz | I wasn't as patient back then | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | then this android thing came out | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | about 20 years later | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | fast forward about 7 years | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | or so | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | and | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | or five | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | or so | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | and | Jun 23 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | Commander Frosted Flakes says: | Jun 23 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | (Change) | Jun 23 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, they'll fire the cashiers and pass the savings onto you in the form of $10 for a burger and some fries that were under the heat lamp too long. :) | Jun 23 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | The quality of McDonalds is garbage and making the experience even more miserable and expensive isn't working out for them, but you dangle "kiosks" over Wall Street and they jump on it like a dog in heat. | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | and Windows has lost most of its market share too it | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | to andorid | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly | Jun 23 23:50 |
| cubexyz | android was much later on | Jun 23 23:50 |
| cubexyz | that's 2008 | Jun 23 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: the McDonalds here have two reasosanble veggie burgers | Jun 23 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: even get a nice little cucumber on it | Jun 23 23:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no could the person who cannot do there research before comenting spend sometime doing research then I would not have to be correcting errors. | Jun 23 23:51 |
| MinceR | veggie burger with double meat? :> | Jun 23 23:51 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @kfalconspb favourited '#GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d "498 out...' | Jun 23 23:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Traduced favourited '#GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d "498 out...' | Jun 23 23:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux owns supercomputing | Tux Machines | Jun 23 23:51 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: your corporate whore act is boring | Jun 23 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: however I am a bit hmm going to McDonalds s, bnow as someone wo went veggie for un sure about certina things reasons and ethics but yes someitmes such as syesterday | Jun 23 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: nope no meat | Jun 23 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXhJPey3i_A | Jun 23 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ron Swanson on Vegan Bacon - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r1ve9 ] | Jun 23 23:52 | |
| cubexyz | ok, I'm here to give good advice :) | Jun 23 23:52 |
| cubexyz | learn to cook | Jun 23 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: altough might have been cooked in something that was used for meat hmm, but I hope not | Jun 23 23:52 |
| MinceR | "once you were a vegan, but soon you will be gone." | Jun 23 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: vegan bacon is quite good for what it is too | Jun 23 23:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I am not employed by redhat. I am not paid them. My main job validation of stuff this is know it history of who did what and when. | Jun 23 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: can tast better than real bacon | Jun 23 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | meat eaters may say that even if trying | Jun 23 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: vegetarian not vegan | Jun 23 23:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 23 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | vegan is like | Jun 23 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | well | Jun 23 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | welll it's a life style etc as well, but | Jun 23 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | its a bit like richard stallman or can be :d the extreame end of things | Jun 23 23:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and a lot of what you say is not aligning with what has happen in the history of the project or what the project are doing. | Jun 23 23:53 |
| cubexyz | vegans can still eat nuts/legumes I assume? | Jun 23 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | no honey for vegans though | Jun 23 23:54 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNqSGolI_N8 | Jun 23 23:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scott Pilgrim vs. The World - You were sort of Vegan, but now you will begone - YouTube | Jun 23 23:54 | |
| *sebsebseb likes honey here anad there | Jun 23 23:54 | |
| sebsebseb | not seen either of htose videos | Jun 23 23:54 |
| cubexyz | too strict for me then | Jun 23 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | yet or whatever | Jun 23 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: vegan is like the extmre end compare it to sofwtare | Jun 23 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: doing vegan properly, would be a bit like running richards free software only lap top :d | Jun 23 23:54 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: what is rms at the extreme end of? giving up his principles for red hat's money? | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | richard stallmans | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: of software | Jun 23 23:55 |
| MinceR | that makes no sense | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | no won't go on websites since it rusn popritary software | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly he will now | Jun 23 23:55 |
| MinceR | what's extreme about "software"? | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | no won't run something or hte other that makes the hardware actsaully work better | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | since closed | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | etc | Jun 23 23:55 |
| cubexyz | it's logical to use proprietary software when necessary | Jun 23 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | most Linux users give up there freedoms for the propritary drivers if they got hardware for htat | Jun 23 23:55 |
| cubexyz | no point in being pedantic about it | Jun 23 23:55 |
| MinceR | and the consequences will be "logical" as well :> | Jun 23 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | with reason or reason enough it makes sense to use propritary software | Jun 23 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | oh and if your into gaming for example well | Jun 23 23:56 |
| cubexyz | using win10 is still out of the question though | Jun 23 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | yes there are some good open source games or more, but most games are closed | Jun 23 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tch4v0L0GHA | Jun 23 23:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Best Of Ron Swanson (Parks and Recreation) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r1ves ] | Jun 23 23:56 | |
| MinceR | wait till m$ buys redhat | Jun 23 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | even running windows at times there can be valid enough reason | Jun 23 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | but I usaully don't | Jun 23 23:56 |
| cubexyz | no way the DOJ would allow that MinceR | Jun 23 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | since its a awful os, how it works etc, all the re booting etc | Jun 23 23:57 |
| cubexyz | but under Trump I wonder | Jun 23 23:57 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: since when did they care about the laws? | Jun 23 23:57 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: they never enforce laws against monopoly abuse | Jun 23 23:57 |
| MinceR | they're corrupt, rotten to the core | Jun 23 23:57 |
| MinceR | and this isn't going to be fixed either, since the majority of the human species is the same | Jun 23 23:58 |
| MinceR | fearing freedom, forcing oppression on everyone they can, including themselves | Jun 23 23:58 |
| cubexyz | Janet Reno did bring Microsoft to task for violations of the sherman antitrust act | Jun 23 23:58 |
| MinceR | it's thoroughly sick | Jun 23 23:58 |
| MinceR | and it will have a painful end | Jun 23 23:58 |
| cubexyz | just the end result was poor | Jun 23 23:58 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: so, what happened? | Jun 23 23:59 |
| MinceR | see, nothing happened | Jun 23 23:59 |
| MinceR | m$ has become the gatekeeper of the x86 ISA via UEFI and Restricted Boot | Jun 23 23:59 |
| MinceR | and nobody bats an eye | Jun 23 23:59 |
| cubexyz | it was settled _after_ Reno left the DOJ | Jun 23 23:59 |
| MinceR | they force botnet malware on people buying PCs using Restricted Boot and Backdoors10 | Jun 23 23:59 |
| MinceR | and still nobody bats an eye | Jun 23 23:59 |
| MinceR | much of human society and technology relies on IT, which is being destroyed from under our feet | Jun 24 00:00 |
| cubexyz | remember we still have coreboot, and I use it every day | Jun 24 00:00 |
| MinceR | i wonder for how long are we going to have it | Jun 24 00:01 |
| cubexyz | it's not all just the M$ show | Jun 24 00:01 |
| MinceR | yeah, there's also crApple | Jun 24 00:01 |
| MinceR | who made DRM and closed platforms acceptable | Jun 24 00:01 |
| MinceR | even popular | Jun 24 00:01 |
| MinceR | and there's the global wave of fascism, religious fundamentalism and anti-intellectualism | Jun 24 00:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is no gain to Microsoft to buy redhat. Why redhat only does about 10 percent of development work on their distribution. That is one of the things you miss. Redhat is very careful to make sure developers from companies and other distributions can submit patches to the code they have. | Jun 24 00:02 |
| MinceR | i even hear people bringing up SuperFish but not minding Backdoors10 | Jun 24 00:03 |
| cubexyz | which laptop are you using again? | Jun 24 00:03 |
| oiaohm | Also there was a very big fight over uefi to get the PK as controlled by the owner of machine. | Jun 24 00:03 |
| MinceR | i got a Lenovo ThinkPad X270 | Jun 24 00:04 |
| MinceR | if it's abusive, you can be sure oiaohm will tirelessly advertise it here | Jun 24 00:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no an advertiser | Jun 24 00:05 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if coreboot would work on that | Jun 24 00:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: where are you get this wrong idea. | Jun 24 00:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really someone has to be shill of they have a different idea to you???? | Jun 24 00:05 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: afaik intel boot guard blocks it | Jun 24 00:05 |
| MinceR | can't have competition in IT, after all | Jun 24 00:05 |
| cubexyz | Lenovo doesn't fill me with confidence :-/ | Jun 24 00:06 |
| MinceR | IT is just too important for our self-styled corporate overlords to leave any control to users over | Jun 24 00:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there was quite a dispute from companies over Microsoft being the gatekeeper. Resulting in PK and KEK set changeable. | Jun 24 00:06 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: i wouldn't trust their non-ThinkPad products at all | Jun 24 00:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: the whole point of uefi was to wrest control from users after what ended up being Treacherous Computing didn't do it | Jun 24 00:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yet here you are, defending the indefensible | Jun 24 00:07 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, at least you can boot into slack | Jun 24 00:07 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 24 00:07 |
| MinceR | this laptop supports legacy boot | Jun 24 00:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: bootguard makes OEM the firmware gate keeper. For companies like google or custom order boards they get the Private key to the bootguard. | Jun 24 00:07 |
| MinceR | it wasn't too difficult to enable it | Jun 24 00:07 |
| cubexyz | I'm thinking about getting a chromebox with a big SSD | Jun 24 00:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: uefi design was not to wrest control from users. That is how Microsoft attempted to take it. The design was to protect against boot attack. | Jun 24 00:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and you eat up all the ads and all the propaganda and believe every letter of it | Jun 24 00:09 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: let me guess, you also believe that the TPM is not there to help enforce DRM | Jun 24 00:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the first documentation is that the PK was always ment to be controlled by the owner of the machine that you never read. | Jun 24 00:09 |
| cubexyz | the M004U doesn't look bad | Jun 24 00:09 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i don't care about the marketing | Jun 24 00:09 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: did you also believe m$ when they said the current version of winblows is perfectly secure? | Jun 24 00:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is not marketing the first implementations of UEFI had end users in control. | Jun 24 00:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: first implementation to not was in Microsoft Windows RT hardware. | Jun 24 00:10 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, we can't trust Intel | Jun 24 00:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so this is not marketing this is purely Microsoft as normal abusing standards | Jun 24 00:10 |
| MinceR | oh, he trusts intel without question | Jun 24 00:11 |
| cubexyz | Intel ME and all that secret stuff... | Jun 24 00:11 |
| MinceR | the words are so nice on the brochures! | Jun 24 00:11 |
| MinceR | critical thinking, what's that? | Jun 24 00:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: boot guard and ME I take issue with Intel. | Jun 24 00:11 |
| oiaohm | I don't 100 percent like Intel. | Jun 24 00:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: good for you | Jun 24 00:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and presumably your cognitive dissonance keeps you from realizing that uefi forces 100% m$ formats on users | Jun 24 00:11 |
| oiaohm | Something like UEFI if always implemented by spec are only annoying things to get past to end users. | Jun 24 00:12 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't be surprised at all if it was found out that TianoCore was written by people from m$ | Jun 24 00:12 |
| cubexyz | you got to have legacy boot or whatever it's called | Jun 24 00:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, i grabbed a laptop before they get rid of legacy boot | Jun 24 00:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Intel with PE and Fat in UEFI if you read the mailing list that was if Intel did not do that Microsoft would not support EFI (before the U bit). | Jun 24 00:13 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: see, m$ pulls the strings | Jun 24 00:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: intel demarded patent free on that usage. | Jun 24 00:13 |
| MinceR | ah yes, patents | Jun 24 00:14 |
| MinceR | yet another fascistic racket | Jun 24 00:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: microsoft argued for 12 months to attempt to avoid that. | Jun 24 00:14 |
| MinceR | and so you believe that patents were the only issue with it | Jun 24 00:14 |
| MinceR | not the fact that m$ still controls the "technology" or the fact that it's crap | Jun 24 00:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it gets worse PE used by EFI have requirements that make them incompatible with Microsoft standard compilers. | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | "standard" | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | there's no such thing as "microsoft standard" | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | even the "standard" they wrote and bribed iso to rubberstamp, they don't obey themselves | Jun 24 00:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: PE has a spec Intel extended it. | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | "microsoft standard" is a joke | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | ooh, intel extended it | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | who cares? | Jun 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | there are sprinkles on this turd! | Jun 24 00:16 |
| MinceR | guess what, it still stinks the same. | Jun 24 00:16 |
| cubexyz | you can't polish a turd :) | Jun 24 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Traduced/status/878385042602557440 | Jun 24 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #GNU #Linux owns #supercomputing | Jun 24 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Traduced https://t.co/15MmmVnl5d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "498 out of 500 supercomputers were running Linux." | Jun 24 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hpc | Jun 24 00:16 |
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| MinceR | well, you can, but the result won't be pleasing | Jun 24 00:16 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/VHZHBiF.jpg | Jun 24 00:26 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: over EFI Microsoft and Intel have not been getting along. So EFI has end up a set of compromises. | Jun 24 00:31 |
| MinceR | by the looks of it, compromises between two equally horrible and evil alternatives | Jun 24 00:32 |
| MinceR | http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/10014.html | Jun 24 00:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also history is import. Boot guard by intel is not by intel. Via implemented in their x86 cpu in 1995 a optional boot guard. Intel waited until the patent expired. | Jun 24 00:32 |
| MinceR | >The fundamental problem is that UEFI is a lot of code. And I really do mean a lot of code. Ignoring drivers, the x86 Linux kernel is around 30MB of code. A comparable subset of the UEFI tree is around 35MB. UEFI is of a comparable degree of complexity to the Linux kernel. | Jun 24 00:32 |
| MinceR | just to boot the damn computer | Jun 24 00:32 |
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| oiaohm | I really do back the right to repair laws. | Jun 24 00:32 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: via doesn't have the market power to force this sort of shit to be accepted | Jun 24 00:33 |
| cubexyz | sorry but I must have the ability to boot into the OS of my choice, otherwise no deal | Jun 24 00:33 |
| MinceR | also, people were not as clueless and self-harming in 1995 as they are now | Jun 24 00:33 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: this is the part where oiaohm will call you a greybeard | Jun 24 00:33 |
| cubexyz | ha, people were clueless in 1995 as well... | Jun 24 00:34 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: Via got some of it market share by providing boot-guard features. | Jun 24 00:34 |
| cubexyz | "start me up" | Jun 24 00:34 |
| cubexyz | win95? | Jun 24 00:34 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: how could you possibly know better than poettering and nadella what you want to do with your own computer? | Jun 24 00:34 |
| oiaohm | Lot of this stuff we have had 20 years + warning that it coming. | Jun 24 00:34 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: people were wary of malware in 1995 | Jun 24 00:34 |
| cubexyz | lining up to buy win95 in droves... and some of them had computers that couldn't even run windows 95? :) | Jun 24 00:34 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: now they buy Backdoors10 | Jun 24 00:34 |
| cubexyz | people are a bit _less_ clueless now | Jun 24 00:35 |
| cubexyz | and we don't usually see winprinters and winscanners and winmodems | Jun 24 00:35 |
| MinceR | people wouldn't have considered the inability to pick your own programs to run on a mobile device (phone, pda, whatever) in 1995 | Jun 24 00:35 |
| MinceR | nowadays they line up to buy hypePhones | Jun 24 00:36 |
| MinceR | we see winpcs now | Jun 24 00:36 |
| MinceR | not just uefi | Jun 24 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173796 | Jun 24 00:36 |
| cubexyz | that's true | Jun 24 00:36 |
| MinceR | we also have winblows tablets with a 32bit uefi implementation that was written specifically to screw with users who wanted to boot a real OS on them | Jun 24 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | I filed a bug upstream on Webkit. | Jun 24 00:36 |
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| cubexyz | we have to be vigilant about that | Jun 24 00:37 |
| MinceR | i was hoping for a screenshot | Jun 24 00:37 |
| oiaohm | ME is really SMM take to the next level. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Mode | Jun 24 00:37 |
| MinceR | though i guess the distortions may not necessarily show up on a screenshot | Jun 24 00:37 |
| MinceR | yes, and there's also TC and Restricted Boot | Jun 24 00:37 |
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| cubexyz | the idea of OS freedom in 1995 wasn't as highly developed as it is now | Jun 24 00:37 |
| cubexyz | you bought an amiga you got amigados, you bought an atari etc etc | Jun 24 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878395784001204224 | Jun 24 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: Open Source Summit 2017, #DebConf17, #ProgressBar | Jun 24 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #HackerSpace, #Nodejs Foundation | Jun 24 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TAH6nhwOVu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 00:38 |
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| oiaohm | 1995 have the SMM mode alter memory of your OS because it was expecting windows and watch your anything bar windows OS die. | Jun 24 00:38 |
| MinceR | os/2 warp was on sale in 1995 | Jun 24 00:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OSS and Sharing #Leftovers | Jun 24 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/idm6rDxExg (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 24 00:38 |
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| MinceR | there were several different "dos"es available also | Jun 24 00:38 |
| cubexyz | yes, I sold OS/2 warp or at least tried to | Jun 24 00:39 |
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| cubexyz | I think I sold one copy | Jun 24 00:39 |
| MinceR | also, maybe os freedom wasn't as highly developed | Jun 24 00:39 |
| MinceR | but it definitely is in decline now | Jun 24 00:39 |
| MinceR | IT is past its best years and so are humans | Jun 24 00:40 |
| cubexyz | there was also BeOS and Minix and a few other ones back then | Jun 24 00:40 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 24 00:41 |
| oiaohm | OS/2 warp is a demo of how zombie a OS can be https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos-5-0-now-available/ | Jun 24 00:41 |
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| cubexyz | and... | Jun 24 00:42 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/freebsd-1995.jpeg | Jun 24 00:42 |
| cubexyz | some ISPs were using that | Jun 24 00:42 |
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| MinceR | "I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I deserve it." -- Jean-Louis Gassée | Jun 24 00:44 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jun 24 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | I was going to report the "some sites render and then disappear" bug in GTKWebkit, but the guy from Red Hat already forwarded my bug report upstream. | Jun 24 00:44 |
| MinceR | and as you can see, even with redhat, peaceful coexistence is impossible. | Jun 24 00:44 |
| oiaohm | Really OS freedom was never that well developed. Cost of OS development is a big problem. | Jun 24 00:44 |
| MinceR | the community solved that problem | Jun 24 00:44 |
| cubexyz | Bell Labs did have it back in... uh... 1975 | Jun 24 00:45 |
| cubexyz | before the licensing rules took over | Jun 24 00:45 |
| cubexyz | many Universities were sharing Unix v6 with each other | Jun 24 00:45 |
| cubexyz | the thing was, you had to have a minicomputer like a PDP-11 | Jun 24 00:46 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: even then different Universities did variations and argued with each other what was right. | Jun 24 00:46 |
| MinceR | well, of course, computers were more expensive back then | Jun 24 00:46 |
| oiaohm | Peace has not existed in OS development for a very long time | Jun 24 00:47 |
| cubexyz | you could buy a Heathkit H-11A though | Jun 24 00:47 |
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| oiaohm | Temporary cease fires yes but never true peace. | Jun 24 00:47 |
| MinceR | looks like people who want to live in a free society will have to fight for their right to own and use general purpose computers | Jun 24 00:47 |
| cubexyz | that was back in 1977, back then I had very little money | Jun 24 00:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the right to repair fight should have been done a long time ago. | Jun 24 00:48 |
| cubexyz | but it was quasi-affordable | Jun 24 00:48 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, back when we had a chance of winning it | Jun 24 00:48 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the mess we are in now is because right to repair is not in law. | Jun 24 00:48 |
| MinceR | then again, the crApple cult would have made it acceptable to end it anyway | Jun 24 00:48 |
| cubexyz | we did kind of win... chromebooks + chromeboxes | Jun 24 00:48 |
| MinceR | never underestimate human stupidity | Jun 24 00:48 |
| cubexyz | that KOes Microsoft | Jun 24 00:49 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: with max 64GB non-replaceable SSD? i kind of want something better. | Jun 24 00:49 |
| cubexyz | you can upgrade the M004U with a big SSD | Jun 24 00:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember early hard drives you could get the source code to the firmware driving the drive. | Jun 24 00:49 |
| cubexyz | you just have to be careful on the model | Jun 24 00:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: greed starts coming in and firmware starts disappearing before Microsoft turns up. | Jun 24 00:50 |
| MinceR | i wonder what happened to standards | Jun 24 00:50 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, remind me which ones | Jun 24 00:50 |
| cubexyz | also of course PDP-11s some didn't even have firmware | Jun 24 00:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the controllers on the harddrives of the PDP were open. Because making the hardware was classed that hard that no one would. | Jun 24 00:51 |
| MinceR | well, for now, we have access to FPGAs | Jun 24 00:51 |
| MinceR | i wonder for how lon | Jun 24 00:51 |
| MinceR | g | Jun 24 00:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not all FPGA can be recoded from first generation because some have fuseable links signing key. | Jun 24 00:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878399157727318016 | Jun 24 00:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat and #Fedora Leftovers | Jun 24 00:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/I6b3s3Y2qr (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 24 00:52 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: this is right to repair issue again. | Jun 24 00:52 |
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| cubexyz | well, try to fix an IBM 1130 and you get that problem again | Jun 24 00:52 |
| cubexyz | once you can't get parts it's game over | Jun 24 00:53 |
| oiaohm | The most modern joke case is the F22 usa most advanced designed fighter. USA cannot make more because they cannot make the avionics. | Jun 24 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878400390731051008 | Jun 24 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 24 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3s9ZQk1PGP (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 24 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #linux #gnu | Jun 24 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 00:54 | |
| oiaohm | So the USA mil orders a fighter aircraft without proper right to repair. | Jun 24 00:54 |
| cubexyz | probably the most easy to make computer from parts is a z80 based one | Jun 24 00:54 |
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| MinceR | well, now they have a train wreck of a project | Jun 24 00:55 |
| MinceR | F-35 | Jun 24 00:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you mean the F35 joint strike? | Jun 24 00:55 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 24 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173799 | Jun 24 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878400846391898114 | Jun 24 00:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #Witcher2 & #RocketLeague, Ashes of the | Jun 24 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Singularity and More | Jun 24 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Dwe1s75sF0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu | Jun 24 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 24 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 00:56 | |
| oiaohm | At least it mandated open source and open hardware avionics to all parties buying the aircraft. So the F35 is not quite as bad as the F22. | Jun 24 00:56 |
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| MinceR | :> | Jun 24 00:57 |
| MinceR | not sure if it will ever fly, though | Jun 24 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Instead of running on jet fuel, it runs on pallets of $100 bills. | Jun 24 00:57 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 24 00:58 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is a reason why F22 don't land of aircraft carriers. Because if they have a issue they can be come stuck on the aircraft carrier. | Jun 24 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | The federal government doesn't care, MinceR | Jun 24 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | They can always tax us more, or inflate the money to cover their spending. | Jun 24 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | Other governments are forced to by USD that they don't want to maintain their own currency pegs, to buy oil, and for other reasons. | Jun 24 00:59 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they will once they won't have any air force to defend their asses from the enemies they've made :> | Jun 24 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Do camels fly yet? | Jun 24 01:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Sell them the old stuff, use the new stuff on them. | Jun 24 01:01 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jun 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | assuming they'll have new stuff | Jun 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | or that they'll be able to manufacture/maintain the old | Jun 24 01:03 |
| oiaohm | http://www.news.com.au/technology/syrian-dogfight-reveals-f35-stealth-fighter-may-be-toothless-tiger/news-story/31bd4208f783da17588045d20aeb5085 yes the F22 is still the best design just at the moment there is no way to build more. | Jun 24 01:04 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Trying to run into as many bugs as possible in Gnome Web. | Jun 24 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully it all gets fixed and Web becomes more of a challenge to Firefox. | Jun 24 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox considers Linux to be a very distant third priority. | Jun 24 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | They leave stuff broken for years. | Jun 24 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | Then they put in new features and they're only for Windows. | Jun 24 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878402671736233984 | Jun 24 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Software and #GNOME: #Pass, #PopcornTime, #Nixnote2, | Jun 24 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Grive, #Curlew, and #GtkActionMuxer | Jun 24 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7cFkLx6B1h (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 24 01:11 |
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| MinceR | i thought broken was mozilla's new thing | Jun 24 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878405130441420800 | Jun 24 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 23/6/2017: Wine 2.11 Released, HPC Domination by | Jun 24 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux https://t.co/gXM5FLtWLp (techrights.org) | Jun 24 01:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 23/6/2017: Wine 2.11 Released, HPC Domination by GNU/Linux | Techrights | Jun 24 01:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878405960498368513 | Jun 24 01:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop: #PopcornLinux, #Purism, Distro Hopping, | Jun 24 01:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #System76, and 2017 Linux Laptop Survey | Jun 24 01:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YlbabLbnfm (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 24 01:15 |
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| cubexyz | Linux running on FPGA could be interesting | Jun 24 01:21 |
| cubexyz | Digilent has the ZYBO board | Jun 24 01:29 |
| cubexyz | $125 for academic use | Jun 24 01:29 |
| cubexyz | 512 megs, HDMI, VGA, gigabit ethernet, USB etc | Jun 24 01:29 |
| cubexyz | although you could get a chromebox for $200 and that gives you coreboot | Jun 24 01:31 |
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| cubexyz | ok, the SSD is small, but it's upgradeable | Jun 24 01:33 |
| cubexyz | perhaps MinceR would prefer the M107U | Jun 24 01:34 |
| cubexyz | http://www.instructables.com/id/Upgrading-the-Asus-Chromebox-CN60-M004U/ | Jun 24 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.instructables.com | Upgrading the Asus Chromebox CN60 / M004U: 4 Steps (with Pictures) [ http://ur1.ca/r1vql ] | Jun 24 01:35 | |
| MinceR | for now, i think i can build a desktop PC | Jun 24 01:35 |
| MinceR | mobile devices are trickier | Jun 24 01:35 |
| MinceR | though this is somewhat inspiring >> https://boingboing.net/2017/06/16/cyberspace-is-everting.html | Jun 24 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | The Commute Deck: a homebrew Unix terminal for tight places / Boing Boing [ http://ur1.ca/r1vqo ] | Jun 24 01:36 | |
| cubexyz | umm | Jun 24 01:37 |
| cubexyz | not very runty :) | Jun 24 01:37 |
| cubexyz | plus the keyboard is split into two parts | Jun 24 01:38 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 24 01:38 |
| MinceR | but it doesn't seem too daunting physically | Jun 24 01:39 |
| MinceR | you can think of the split keyboard as an ergonomic keyboard :> | Jun 24 01:40 |
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| cubexyz | the whole /sys/devices thing is confusing | Jun 24 02:05 |
| cubexyz | man hier doesn't even mention it | Jun 24 02:06 |
| cubexyz | sorry, in slack it does but older vector it doesn't | Jun 24 02:07 |
| cubexyz | oh well, another thing to learn | Jun 24 02:07 |
| cubexyz | evidently the fashion nowadays is to put ACPI info under /sys rather than /proc | Jun 24 02:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878407207494275072 | Jun 24 02:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/zzLrOP4Vx6 | Jun 24 02:22 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: proc stands for processes | Jun 24 03:00 |
| cubexyz | well linux used to have /proc/apci/battery/BAT0/state | Jun 24 03:01 |
| cubexyz | so I guess /sys is more appropriate | Jun 24 03:01 |
| oiaohm | sys was made latter. At first everything was stuffed into /proc if it should be in proc or not. | Jun 24 03:03 |
| oiaohm | https://lwn.net/Articles/646617/ proc and sys are both lacking in good documentation. | Jun 24 03:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A tour of /sys/devices [LWN.net] | Jun 24 03:04 | |
| oiaohm | There is talk about formally writing up all the Linux kernel userspace interfaces. | Jun 24 03:05 |
| cubexyz | I notice that Unix v5 had /usr/sys | Jun 24 03:06 |
| cubexyz | so the kernel code and device driver source was in there | Jun 24 03:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yep the naming of the sysfs is based partly off of old placements from unix. | Jun 24 03:08 |
| cubexyz | all the system source code was in /usr/sys up to v7 | Jun 24 03:10 |
| cubexyz | after that I'm not sure | Jun 24 03:10 |
| cubexyz | probably most of the time the source code doesn't come with the operating system | Jun 24 03:11 |
| cubexyz | not sure exactly what /sys is | Jun 24 03:12 |
| cubexyz | they talk about the sysfs filesystem, but that's rather vague | Jun 24 03:12 |
| cubexyz | yes, in v8 that's still true: the system source is in /usr/sys | Jun 24 03:14 |
| cubexyz | I know in openbsd it doesn't come automatically with system source code | Jun 24 03:15 |
| cubexyz | and /usr/mdec has persisted in the BSDs | Jun 24 03:18 |
| cubexyz | mdec being a throw-back to magnetic dec bootstrap loaders | Jun 24 03:19 |
| cubexyz | although technically it could be a boot loader for a floppy drive, hard drive, etc | Jun 24 03:21 |
| oiaohm | https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/sysfs.txt | Jun 24 03:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: devices directory is not very formal. It for where devices want to expose options. | Jun 24 03:30 |
| cubexyz | great, now I have to figure out what a kobject is | Jun 24 03:31 |
| cubexyz | I assume sysfs is a linux thing? | Jun 24 03:33 |
| cubexyz | ah, in BSD they have sysctl instead | Jun 24 03:35 |
| cubexyz | and confusingly, there's sysctl in linux as well | Jun 24 03:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Events: Open Source Summit 2017, #DebConf17, #ProgressBar | Jun 24 03:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @nodejsdigest #HackerSpace, #Nodejs Foundation | Jun 24 03:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Well, it looks like the fix for one of the bugs that I reported will be pushed out for Gnome Web 3.24.3. | Jun 24 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | The upstream maintainer says it looks trivial to fix so it should make it in time. | Jun 24 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757824#c8 | Jun 24 05:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.gnome.org | Bug 757824 – Port the adblocker to the Content Blockers API | Jun 24 05:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer 2017-06-24 04:24:26 UTC | Jun 24 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | Hello, | Jun 24 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | I was reading the Roadmap to 3.26 and it seems like there could be an opportunity to solve two problems at once here. Once Web is transitioned to the Content Blocking API, Web could subscribe to Spam404 and Malware Domains Adblock Plus Lists as part of the "Block dangerous websites using a safe browsing API" feature. | Jun 24 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | That could complement using something like Google Safe Browsing by making sure that if Google misses something that are on these lists, Web can't load the site anyway due to the content block. Firefox can be configured this way. | Jun 24 05:25 |
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| DaemonFC | https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/microsoft-should-shore-up-windows-10-ss-security-then-offer-it-to-everyone/ | Jun 24 06:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Windows 10 S security brought down by, of course, Word macros | Ars Technica | Jun 24 06:14 | |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 S has already been successfully attacked by MS Word macro viruses. | Jun 24 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 24 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 24 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 S has already been successfully attacked by MS Word macro viruses. | Jun 24 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has segmented the market badly enough that the Apple "Choose a Vista" commercial could be dusted off. | Jun 24 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 S has been crippled to a point where it's even more useless than Windows XP Starter Edition was in its time. | Jun 24 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Why not get a Galago Pro or something and get a 3 pound Linux machine that runs actual software for not a lot of money instead? | Jun 24 06:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/878484985254227968 | Jun 24 06:28 |
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| schestowitz | [23:42] <cubexyz> rubik's cube | Jun 24 06:41 |
| schestowitz | I was always fascinated with your cube obsession | Jun 24 06:41 |
| schestowitz | Reminded me of Edward Snowden, as depicted in the movie "Snowden" | Jun 24 06:41 |
| schestowitz | I suggest you watch it if you have not | Jun 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | *not | Jun 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | [00:00] <MinceR> much of human society and technology relies on IT, which is being destroyed from under our feet | Jun 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | yes | Jun 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | exactly, more so over time | Jun 24 06:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #LinuxLite https://t.co/7BWKK9poOY (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 07:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 24 07:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #chromebook | Jun 24 07:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #samsung #motorola | Jun 24 07:21 |
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| TechD | oiaohm: schestowitz https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterhigh/2017/06/20/a-recycling-entrepreneur-has-been-sentenced-to-15-months-in-prison/ | Jun 24 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Forbes Welcome | Jun 24 07:39 | |
| schestowitz | same person? | Jun 24 07:39 |
| schestowitz | or another story? | Jun 24 07:39 |
| TechD | oiaohm: schestowitz if you know Lawyers in Florida, who can help with the Appeal, please let me or him know | Jun 24 07:39 |
| schestowitz | prison is not for rich people... | Jun 24 07:39 |
| TechD | schestowitz: same story | Jun 24 07:39 |
| schestowitz | prison is for rich people to put poorer people in | Jun 24 07:40 |
| schestowitz | ridiculous | Jun 24 07:40 |
| schestowitz | and waste of federal budget | Jun 24 07:40 |
| schestowitz | housing prisoners for copying MS MALWARE | Jun 24 07:40 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft should be thankful to him | Jun 24 07:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.technewsworld.com/story/commentary/64902.htm | Jun 24 07:41 |
| schestowitz | "“So, Microsoft actively looks the other way as people pirate its software. It builds its market share that way, and lets people get used to the idea of having Windows at a certain price.”" | Jun 24 07:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.technewsworld.com/story/commentary/64902.htm ) | Jun 24 07:41 | |
| schestowitz | “No less than Bill Gates himself said in a recent Fortune article that Microsoft competes better against Linux in China when there's piracy than when there isn't." | Jun 24 07:41 |
| TechD | schestowitz: it really comes down to the judge NOT understanding that the Dell Restore CD's != fully working COA'd retail copies of Windows | Jun 24 07:41 |
| schestowitz | "It's easier for our software to compete with Linux when there's piracy than when there's not." | Jun 24 07:41 |
| schestowitz | ---Bill Gates | Jun 24 07:41 |
| TechD | i really think this can win in Appeals | Jun 24 07:42 |
| schestowitz | yes, should be | Jun 24 07:42 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about some cases like this before | Jun 24 07:42 |
| schestowitz | recyclers | Jun 24 07:42 |
| schestowitz | let me do a search | Jun 24 07:42 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/01/01/ms-sends-partners-to-jail/ | Jun 24 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Sends Its ‘Partners’ to Prison | Techrights | Jun 24 07:43 | |
| schestowitz | " It is becoming clearer that companies should refurbish with GNU/Linux, never Windows" http://techrights.org/2014/02/03/microsoft-bermuda/ | Jun 24 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Amid Financial Misconduct Microsoft Fights Against Basic Tech Rights, Obviously in an Attempt to Squeeze Out More Money | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/r1x76 ] | Jun 24 07:45 | |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft has commenced a scheme that will make Windows XP accessible to buyers of refurbished personal computers in Nigerian." | Jun 24 07:45 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2008/12/22/microsoft-addicting-dumping/ | Jun 24 07:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | B.A.D. Microsoft | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/r1x79 ] | Jun 24 07:45 | |
| schestowitz | I used to write more about this | Jun 24 07:45 |
| schestowitz | don't like the Mafia (Microsoft) get away with IMPRISONING the people who HELP Microsoft SPREAD its MALWARE | Jun 24 07:45 |
| schestowitz | It's just ethically crazy | Jun 24 07:46 |
| TechD | schestowitz: that's the even bigger problem, that they turned it into Criminal, instead of Civil (which is harder to fight) | Jun 24 07:46 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft should be the one with execs sent to prison, e.g. over http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Jun 24 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g1zod ] | Jun 24 07:46 | |
| schestowitz | and spying without consent http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Jun 24 07:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/I6b3s3Y2qr (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 24 07:52 |
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| TechD | Do you know someone in the EFF, who can help? | Jun 24 07:57 |
| schestowitz | it's not EFF turf | Jun 24 07:58 |
| TechD | schestowitz: oh, and you can post that ForbesArticle, if u want, thanks for waiting for it to come out :) | Jun 24 07:59 |
| TechD | schestowitz: still, the EFF might be able to give a referral, of someone who can help.. | Jun 24 08:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Games: #Witcher2 & #RocketLeague, Ashes of the | Jun 24 08:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Singularity and More | Jun 24 08:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Software and #GNOME: #Pass, #PopcornTime, #Nixnote2, | Jun 24 08:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz GNU/Linux https://t.co/gXM5FLtWLp (techrights.org) | Jun 24 08:46 |
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| schestowitz | [08:00] <TechD> schestowitz: still, the EFF might be able to give a referral, of someone who can help.. | Jun 24 08:46 |
| schestowitz | I don't think that's what EFF does | Jun 24 08:47 |
| TechD | k, thanks anyway | Jun 24 08:47 |
| TechD | anyone have any ideas on how to help? | Jun 24 08:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6j61k0/its_done_i_have_converted/ | Jun 24 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | It's done. I have converted. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r1z70 ] | Jun 24 16:05 | |
| schestowitz | "I just finished installing Linux Mint. It took some time to make the jump but I don't think I'll regret it." | Jun 24 16:05 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't notice the link on the page, but when I clicked on it, it went to her Twitch account so I guess we can assume her game streaming on Twitch now? | Jun 24 16:39 |
| schestowitz | I'm just excited to see her come back she was one of the main reasons why I got into Linux. | Jun 24 16:39 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6iyufu/nixie_pixel_back_im_not_sure_if_shes_coming_back/ | Jun 24 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Nixie Pixel back?! I'm not sure if shes coming back to YouTube but she put this up on her Facebook page and it does have a Linux logo! : linux | Jun 24 16:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878649207934111744 | Jun 24 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #DNS #Typosquatting, #Encryption & #Firewalls, #Vista10 | Jun 24 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Compromised, #StackClash, #CherryBlossom, #Russia and | Jun 24 17:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878651601388527618 | Jun 24 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cross-compilation, #DLanguage in #GCC, and Complexity | Jun 24 17:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cross-compilation, D Language in GCC, and Complexity | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/878651867408068608 | Jun 24 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos | Jun 24 17:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #howto #gnu #linux #unix #cli | Jun 24 17:32 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #ChatOps, #CoolRetroTerm, #Calibre, #BrightnessController, #gnuplot 5.2, #Nix,...' | Jun 24 17:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878652153853874177 | Jun 24 17:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Advocacy of Desktop #GNU #Linux and Introduction to | Jun 24 17:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #PyCharm IDE and #LWN Coverage From the 2017 #Python | Jun 24 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Language Summit https://t.co/BY7vfo2bI1 | Jun 24 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #programming | Jun 24 17:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PyCharm IDE and LWN Coverage From the 2017 Python Language Summit | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878654705756450816 | Jun 24 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: #ChatOps, #CoolRetroTerm, #Calibre, | Jun 24 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #BrightnessController, #gnuplot 5.2, #Nix, and #Gravit | Jun 24 17:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: ChatOps, Cool-Retro-Term, Calibre, Brightness Controller, gnuplot 5.2, Nix, and Gravit | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878654830943797248 | Jun 24 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #DNS #Typosquatting, #Encryption & #Firewalls, #Vista10 | Jun 24 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Compromised, #StackClash, #CherryBlossom, #Russia and | Jun 24 17:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: DNS Typosquatting, Encryption and Firewalls, Vista 10 Compromised, Stack Clash, CherryBlossom, Russia and Epyc | Tux Machines | Jun 24 17:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Linux #Kernel Articles at #LWN (Paywall Expired) | Jun 24 17:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878655875610816513 | Jun 24 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Debian #Linux 9.0.x and #Skolelinux Leftovers | Jun 24 17:51 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange "The Trump-Russia collusion narrative," as you put...' | Jun 24 17:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Linux #Kernel Articles at #LWN (Paywall Expired) | Jun 24 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @carocarocjdl https://t.co/EkTgySEAYI (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #programming #development | Jun 24 18:01 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux #Kernel Articles at #LWN (Paywall Expired) ...' | Jun 24 18:08 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/C4CfwGf.jpg | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757824 | Jun 24 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.gnome.org | Bug 757824 – Port the adblocker to the Content Blockers API | Jun 24 18:09 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR | Jun 24 18:09 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer 2017-06-24 17:08:42 UTC | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Hmm, I guess I was wrong about what the actual goal of this was to do. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Back to the subject of blocking content, Webkit/Blink browsers apparently have some sort of bug where a really awful thing called "Ad Choices" can detect that you're blocking the ads and load ads that are even worse than the ones that were blocked. (Taboola-style, only worse than Taboola. Taboola is also currently unblocked by Gnome Web.), so if the new method of content blocking can defeat Ad Choice *and* taboola, then that would be the | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | gold standard, at least from my perspective. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | uBlock-Origin works around the bug that enables Ad Choices with a helper extension called uBlock Origin Extra whose additional goal goes into defeating hostile activity from websites in general, such as disguising third party requests as first party ones, which gets around the cookie policy of the browser, sites evading the blocking policy by (ab)using WebRTC, etc. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | The next problem is...sites detecting that ads are blocked and displaying a nag screen or locking the user out entirely. So far, I've been able to break the majority of these blockades with browser configured with uBlock Origin, uBlock Extra, Tampermonkey extension, and Anti-Adblock Reek userscript+ABP style filter. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | The web is getting to a point where if you want to turn off advertising, it's like the children's song about the old lady who swallowed a fly, and then swallowed the spider to catch the fly, then a bird to catch the spider, then a cat to catch the bird, then a dog to catch the cat.... | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Is there really a way to manage all of this stuff with a single checkbox? If there is, I'm not seeing it, and Google plans to use Chrome as a protection racket (by blocking ads not approved by their sockpuppet "Coalition for Better Ads), and then roll out "Funding Choices", which is another anti-adblock platform. Could this be a losing battle against ads/trackers? Of course it could be. Google has the resources to keep Funding Choices | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | working faster than Anti-Adblock Reek or anything else can catch up to it. So, what is the scope of ad blocking in Gnome Web? Obviously simple is good, but simple leaves out a ton of cases where Evil Inc. can game the rules to get a foot in the door. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | I do like the work that gorhill has done with uBlock Origin. It's so much more than a simple adblocker. He's put a lot of work into catching and defeating corner cases. In one example, he's replaced things like Google Analytics with a "neutered script" that gets loaded instead, with the minimum API that problem websites expect in order to stop them from failing. The guy is unstoppable. :) | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | We're going to need something powerful to keep up here. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | .... | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | We need something more powerful than a checkbox to block ads. | Jun 24 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | The web is only getting nastier thanks to the evil Facebook+Google alliance. | Jun 24 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/878661188128735232 | Jun 24 18:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Linux 9.0.x and Skolelinux Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 24 18:10 | |
| MinceR | this is the first time i hear about a facebook+google alliance | Jun 24 18:11 |
| MinceR | did Fuckerberg's love affair with m$ end? | Jun 24 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878661575581868033 | Jun 24 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE/Qt: Krita, #GCompris, #CompilerExplorer and Qt | Jun 24 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/wSuPfSOBW1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #qt | Jun 24 18:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE/Qt: Krita, GCompris, Compiler Explorer and Qt | Tux Machines | Jun 24 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9509470 | Jun 24 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Coming off a strong quarter, #RedHat CEO Jim Whitehurst talks public clouds and containers https://www.geekwire.com/2017/coming-off-strong-quarter-red-hat-ceo-jim-whitehurst-talks-public-clouds-containers/ from #microsoft oriented 'media' | Jun 24 18:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Coming off a strong quarter, Red Hat CEO Jim Whitehurst talks public clouds and containers – GeekWire [ http://ur1.ca/r202x ] | Jun 24 18:17 | |
| MinceR | has he also mentioned his plan to destroy unix? | Jun 24 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878662467890667520 | Jun 24 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Cross-compilation, #DLanguage in #GCC, and Complexity | Jun 24 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/MCPeRWr9mT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #programming #gnu #compiler | Jun 24 18:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cross-compilation, D Language in GCC, and Complexity | Tux Machines | Jun 24 18:21 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://lupinix.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/improving-qtwebkit-security-for-fedora.html | Jun 24 18:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lupinix.blogspot.co.uk | lupinix: Improving QtWebKit security for Fedora [ http://ur1.ca/r205e ] | Jun 24 18:25 | |
| schestowitz | juts now... | Jun 24 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Coalition for Better Ads = Sockpuppet astroturf group representing Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and other ad and spyware companies. | Jun 24 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878664256455155712 | Jun 24 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Advocacy of Desktop #GNU #Linux and Introduction to | Jun 24 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Libreboot T400 | Jun 24 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yysxWNrcWM (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 24 18:28 |
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| MinceR | ic | Jun 24 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/878666173516308480 | Jun 24 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE/Qt: Krita, #GCompris, #CompilerExplorer and Qt | Jun 24 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/wSuPfSOBW1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #qt | Jun 24 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 24 18:30 |
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| MinceR | has it ever occurred to them to just use non-animated plain text ads without iframes? | Jun 24 18:31 |
| MinceR | (also without javascript) | Jun 24 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Coalition for Better Ads = Sockpuppet astroturf group representing Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and other ad and spyware companies. | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Don't fall for it. Write your state's Attorney General and ask them to investigate for cartel/antitrust behavior. | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Talking Points: | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Google Chrome will have an "ad filter" next year that blocks ads that compete with the "Coalition"'s guidelines. | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Google will offer websites "Funding Choices" which demands that users "lower their shields" and potentially infect their computers with malicious software served by ads and let malicious tracking scripts follow them around the web, or they will have to give up trying to use the site or pay a per-page fee, of which much of it goes to Google. | Jun 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm filing a complaint against Google with the state of Illinois. | Jun 24 18:34 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/r/funny/iqgPNeq | Jun 24 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Friends with benefits - GIF on Imgur | Jun 24 18:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878666707866460160 | Jun 24 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #PyCharm IDE and #LWN Coverage From the 2017 #Python | Jun 24 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Language Summit https://t.co/BY7vfo2bI1 | Jun 24 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #programming | Jun 24 18:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PyCharm IDE and LWN Coverage From the 2017 Python Language Summit | Tux Machines | Jun 24 18:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878670425726779392 | Jun 24 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu: #Ubuntu Server, Desktop and Icons/Themes | Jun 24 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7OMAQkbTTb (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 24 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 24 18:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: Ubuntu Server, Desktop and Icons/Themes | Tux Machines | Jun 24 18:47 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/xicaj | Jun 24 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If you have a problem with this "manspreading" thing, I got this for you. - Album on Imgur | Jun 24 18:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu: #Ubuntu Server, Desktop and Icons/Themes https://t.co/7OMAQkbTTb...' | Jun 24 18:51 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/hLoJZ | Jun 24 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I think I'll skip work and keep watching this... - Album on Imgur | Jun 24 18:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @VaulsteinR favourited '#PyCharm IDE and #LWN Coverage From the 2017...' | Jun 24 18:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @dominoisdead favourited 'Ubuntu: #Ubuntu Server, Desktop and Icons/Themes https://t.co/7OMAQkbTTb...' | Jun 24 18:59 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The new Firefox Focus browser on Android is just a Chrome webview with ad/tracking filters. | Jun 24 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | I was wondering why it was running so much smoother than Firefox for Android does. | Jun 24 19:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878679868220858368 | Jun 24 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora: Design Team, #QtWebKit #Security, Badges, and | Jun 24 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Multimedia | Jun 24 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5QPYWdeWkG (www.tuxmachines.org) #swpats | Jun 24 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #mp3 #mpv #plex #design #redhat | Jun 24 19:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: Design Team, QtWebKit Security, Badges, and Multimedia | Tux Machines | Jun 24 19:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fedora: Design Team, #QtWebKit #Security, Badges, and Multimedia...' | Jun 24 19:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878681275757993984 | Jun 24 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased | Jun 24 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on #Debian 9 "Stretch" | Jun 24 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/AN775XmCMI (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi | Jun 24 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 24 19:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation's Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 24 19:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @calcaware retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased...' | Jun 24 19:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @CIA See @JohnKiriakou - sent to...' | Jun 24 19:30 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/5X5WX | Jun 24 19:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fun facts: Saturday evening edition - Album on Imgur | Jun 24 19:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased...' | Jun 24 19:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Actually, there are issues with Signal, esp....' | Jun 24 19:41 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/ericevenchick/status/877919955945181184 | Jun 24 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ericevenchick: Typo of the Day: "they need to satanize this input." | Jun 24 19:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden Actually, there are issues with...' | Jun 24 19:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased | Jun 24 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 on #Debian 9 "Stretch" | Jun 24 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/AN775XmCMI (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi | Jun 24 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 24 19:56 |
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| MinceR | http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/06/20/11/15/isis-themed-fake-lego-sets-exported-globally-from-china | Jun 24 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ISIS-themed fake Lego sets exported globally from China - 9news.com.au | Jun 24 19:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden PGP is demonstrably more secure than a...' | Jun 24 19:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | So I got the Chromium Media Libs Freeworld package from RPM Fusion and installed it into Fedora's Chromium browser. | Jun 24 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | Now all the codecs work but there's still no Widevine or Flash, which I guess is fine. | Jun 24 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | Tried Spotify Web Player and songs play for 9 seconds, figure out that Widevine isn't there, and stop. | Jun 24 20:13 |
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| DaemonFC | https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=9984636 | Jun 24 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-koji.fedoraproject.org | chromium-libs-59.0.3071.104-1.fc26.x86_64.rpm | RPM Info | koji | Jun 24 20:26 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, Chromium in Fedora now bundles 318 private copies of libraries. | Jun 24 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | That's an improvement. Used to be over 400. | Jun 24 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 24 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | No wonder it takes over 400 MB of space to install it. | Jun 24 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome is much worse. Over 550 MB. | Jun 24 20:27 |
| schestowitz | holy crap | Jun 24 20:29 |
| MinceR | http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/23/middleeast/turkey-to-stop-teaching-evolution/index.html | Jun 24 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Turkey to stop teaching evolution in high school - CNN.com | Jun 24 20:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Building Chromium is not easy. | Jun 24 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is pretty easy. Chromium is a nightmare. | Jun 24 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why Tom Callaway took it on as a hobby. | Jun 24 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | He's been slowly improving Chromium to be less of a packaging guidelines violation on Fedora, but it still required an exception from the guidelines by Fedora. | Jun 24 20:59 |
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| DaemonFC | To say that Chromium is a mess is to put it mildly. This is what happens when a bunch of people with backgrounds in Java and Microsoft Windows get together to build a program. | Jun 24 21:00 |
| MinceR | http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/comics/irreg1582.jpg | Jun 24 21:06 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks You need a news site or blog....' | Jun 24 21:09 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 24 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 24 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | I was wondering why there was an extension in Fedora's version of Chromium that adds "Fedora" to the user agent. | Jun 24 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | If Netflix decides that you're not using "Chrome" or if you try to view it once without Widevine and it fails, it sets a cookie so that it never works again, even if you change your user agent and/or install Widevine, unless you delete the cookie. If you don't, it tells you to download Microsoft Silverlight, which is more or less abandoned on Windows and never worked in Linux, not really, without the Pipelight hack (Pipelight | Jun 24 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | plug-in+Patched Wine+ Silverlight = BARF). | Jun 24 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | I was looking at the release notes. Apparently, the extension doesn't add "Fedora" to the user agent for some sites, including Netflix. | Jun 24 21:12 |
| MinceR | don't use NETFUX and don't pay them | Jun 24 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They ported The Witcher 2 to Linux, but the release notes say that it requires an Nvidia card and a recent version of the proprietary driver and it will refuse to run on AMD or Intel no matter what. | Jun 24 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | Glad I saw that before I bought it. | Jun 24 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | I hear developers say good things about Nvidia's OpenGL implementation, but the driver is a bitch to deal with. | Jun 24 21:15 |
| MinceR | i managed to get Super Grub2 Disk to boot by copying it into SystemRescueCd's floppy image directory and making a menu entry for it :> | Jun 24 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | It breaks your system in many ways. It's hard to actually live with. | Jun 24 21:15 |
| MinceR | well, i've seen it cause many crashes | Jun 24 21:15 |
| MinceR | the nvidia blob, that is | Jun 24 21:15 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/resume http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1496673761-20170605after%20%281%29.png | Jun 24 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Resume | Jun 24 21:16 | |
| DaemonFC | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/chromium-widevine | Jun 24 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.debian.org | Debian -- Details of package chromium-widevine in stretch [ http://ur1.ca/r21dt ] | Jun 24 21:19 | |
| DaemonFC | So Debian won't give you wifi firmware by default, but they packaged Widevine. :) | Jun 24 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | That certainly makes sense. | Jun 24 21:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 24 21:22 |
| MinceR | they'll also happily give you mono | Jun 24 21:22 |
| MinceR | and they force systemd on you | Jun 24 21:22 |
| MinceR | maybe they replaced the DFSG with rolling dice | Jun 24 21:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks You need a news site...' | Jun 24 21:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You are killing people with "trumpcare". All...' | Jun 24 21:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @MSNBC Saying Wikileaks is "like" NYTimes or...' | Jun 24 21:56 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Hmm, break his wifi but mke it really easy to install Widevine. | Jun 24 22:04 |
| MinceR | DRM is probably "modern" | Jun 24 22:05 |
| MinceR | having network connectivity, not so much | Jun 24 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | DFSG is really weak. It lets them put nonfree packages in and call them contrib or non-free and technically they're not part of Debian but you would be hard pressed to know the difference. | Jun 24 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Widevine support in Fedora's version of Firefox should be another reason the FSF doesn't recommend Fedora. It's turned off by default, which means that Fedora technically has no nonfree software (excluding firmware), but the preference remains and most users will turn it on to deal with media that doesn't play. | Jun 24 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yes, get rid of Netflix. Just use pirate streaming sites without DRM. | Jun 24 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Fuck Netflix. They shouldn't have broken their website in Free web browsers if they wanted subscribers. | Jun 24 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | The fact that entire seasons of Netflix shows are streaming on a pirate website a month before Netflix adds them shows how well Widevine is working. | Jun 24 22:08 |
| MinceR | i don't mind having nonfree packages as long as i can choose whether or not to have them installed | Jun 24 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | The pirates just slip the files out of one of the production companies on a thumb drive. | Jun 24 22:09 |
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| DaemonFC | So Netflix has lost before the files could even be posted, which makes Widevine unimportant. | Jun 24 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Even if Widevine does interfere with copying, people will find another way to copy the files. They'll figure out a weakness in Widevine or rip the Blu Ray disc. | Jun 24 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | So Widevine is like locking the barn door after the horse has bolted. | Jun 24 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | It only hurts paying customers of Netflix. | Jun 24 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Even worse, for them, it encourages paying customers to cancel and use streaming sites that work instead. | Jun 24 22:11 |
| MinceR | (oh, also if not much depends on them on the long run) | Jun 24 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Widevine will probably end up swallowing most of the web. | Jun 24 22:16 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 24 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Since Google doesn't charge licensing fees, sites will use it because they can. | Jun 24 22:16 |
| MinceR | tbl put the rubberstamp on it, now it's "standard" | Jun 24 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Surprised that all of Youtube doesn't use it already. | Jun 24 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | That Youtube TV thing almost certainly does. | Jun 24 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Youtube TV sounds like what Sling TV already has only more expensive for fewer channels in the basic package and no option for HBO. | Jun 24 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | "DVR like you never have before. Never run out of space!" | Jun 24 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Well, pirate streaming sites never cause me to run out of space either, and the pirates have edited all the commercial breaks out so I don't have to fast forward anything. | Jun 24 22:20 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 24 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | You mean I can get what I already have, only with fewer programming choices and 18 minutes of commercials for each hour? | Jun 24 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | For only $50 more per month than I pay now? | Jun 24 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Woohoo! | Jun 24 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Lack of Widevine has some practical upsides. | Jun 24 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Some websites, like NBC, Widevine their annoying autoplay videos. | Jun 24 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | Without Widevine they can't start. | Jun 24 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | Also, any potential malware that depends on it being there won't work, of course. | Jun 24 22:24 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 24 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | I wrote a long letter to Attorney General Lisa Madigan's office about Google abusing their majority marketshare to commit a litany of abuses against web users. | Jun 24 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | She went after Facebook, Jimmy Johns, Lenovo, and some others and got them to agree to settlements. | Jun 24 22:27 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Did you flush again?' | Jun 24 22:31 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/5EwFPG1.jpg | Jun 24 22:43 |
| *XRevan86 saw Richard Dawkins today. | Jun 24 22:49 | |
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| schestowitz | IRL? | Jun 24 22:58 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: did he visit Russia? | Jun 24 22:59 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: yep | Jun 24 22:59 |
| schestowitz | cool! | Jun 24 23:00 |
| schestowitz | I like his debating skills | Jun 24 23:00 |
| schestowitz | although he comes across as too shrill sometimes | Jun 24 23:00 |
| schestowitz | strident | Jun 24 23:00 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It was a short 1 hour event, he did a lecture, then three picked questions from a website were given to him | Jun 24 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | not very debate-inducing :) | Jun 24 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | two questions were religion-related | Jun 24 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Did he make fun of the Orthodox church and call Putin a "homo"? or a "Pussy"? Did he instigate a Riot? | Jun 24 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: He did call Islam evil | Jun 24 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | so… no | Jun 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | religion can be evil, Islam more so | Jun 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | it's taking things further, esp. in practice | Jun 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | but Putin like Islam-bashing | Jun 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | his RT/Sputkin channels like to stir up hatred towards Muslims in EU | Jun 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | I reckon they want to destabilise the EU/NATO from the inside this way | Jun 24 23:03 |
| schestowitz | no need for nukes/M.A.D. | Jun 24 23:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: In his lecture he was making planned economy analogies also. And they were very careful and considerate %). | Jun 24 23:05 |
| MinceR | (potentially disturbing imagery) http://imgur.com/gallery/u9tjd | Jun 24 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The nature is wild af - Album on Imgur | Jun 24 23:05 | |
| MinceR | Dawkins lives too dangerously | Jun 24 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | Although this reminds me that yesterday Milonov demanded the Dawkins lecture to be revoked %) | Jun 24 23:06 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: so I won't click it | Jun 24 23:07 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 24 23:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, he runs the risk of going into hiding | Jun 24 23:07 |
| schestowitz | like Rushdie | Jun 24 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Rush! Die!! | Jun 24 23:07 |
| XRevan86 | https://politros.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/3-9.jpg this guy | Jun 24 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitaly_Milonov | Jun 24 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Vitaly Milonov - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r229q ] | Jun 24 23:08 | |
| MinceR | yet another christian taliban | Jun 24 23:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878736736419020800 | Jun 24 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/wl4t85f2bJ | Jun 24 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #google | Jun 24 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 23:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 24 23:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/wl4t85f2bJ #linux #google' | Jun 24 23:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878737648977883137 | Jun 24 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux 4.11.7 and more https://t.co/axKTE1aU4G | Jun 24 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernel #programming #gpl | Jun 24 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 23:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.11.7 | Tux Machines | Jun 24 23:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/herodfel/status/878736944322101248 | Jun 24 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@herodfel: @schestowitz Ahhh.. He says that wherever he goes...including in the UK. Pretty lame attempt at point scoring... | Jun 24 23:14 | |
| DaemonFC | I got out of EAFE stocks with a 7% gain over about 2 months before it started falling again. | Jun 24 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Put it back into an S&P 500 index. | Jun 24 23:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @calcaware retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux 4.11.7 and more https://t.co/axKTE1aU4G #kernel #programming #gpl' | Jun 24 23:16 | |
| DaemonFC | The S&P was at about the same point where it was when I left it, but has been trending upwards again. | Jun 24 23:17 |
| MinceR | well, if he dared to say that christianity and judaism is about as evil as islam, he would have been killed | Jun 24 23:17 |
| MinceR | which is why he shouldn't go to such fascist shitholes | Jun 24 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | I don't necessarily see buy and hold as a good strategy for international stocks right now. | Jun 24 23:18 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux 4.11.7 and more https://t.co/axKTE1aU4G #kernel #programming #gpl' | Jun 24 23:18 | |
| DaemonFC | If the Dollar beats the Euro back into the ground, they could become a good value again, and that's a distinct possibility. | Jun 24 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | The EU is being destabilized. The Brexit thing and having to haul around the PIGS is really undermining it much more than Russia could ever hope for. | Jun 24 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | An election in France isn't going to fix that. | Jun 24 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878739115340161024 | Jun 24 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical Releases #Snapcraft 2.32 to Support ROS Lunar | Jun 24 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in the Catkin Plugin https://t.co/ivOuyggCrM | Jun 24 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 24 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 23:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Releases Snapcraft 2.32 to Support ROS Lunar in the Catkin Plugin | Tux Machines | Jun 24 23:20 | |
| DaemonFC | Germany likes the Euro because it suits their needs fine. | Jun 24 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Trade surplus....exporting unemployment.... | Jun 24 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | When the Eurozone fails, they can just reintroduce the Mark. | Jun 24 23:21 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Canonical Releases #Snapcraft 2.32 to Support ROS Lunar...' | Jun 24 23:22 | |
| DaemonFC | They have an incentive to keep the Euro going as long as possible, even if they have to fund destructive bailouts, because it's a small price to pay for their own exorbitant privilege. | Jun 24 23:22 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Well, he called all religions evil, but Islam as the worst, to be more exact. | Jun 24 23:24 |
| XRevan86 | like Christianity in Medieval times (also his words) | Jun 24 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | When they're done sucking the guts out of the surrounding countries, they'll be fine. The Mark will be accepted and strong even as other countries try to reintroduce separate drastically devalued currencies to try to fund their debt loads and current account deficits. | Jun 24 23:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878740085566578688 | Jun 24 23:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME Improvements, Performance Improvements Included | Jun 24 23:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5v4bLC6sJU (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 24 23:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gtk | Jun 24 23:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 24 23:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Improvements, Performance Improvements Included | Tux Machines | Jun 24 23:24 | |
| DaemonFC | I doubt Hungary will ever bother to join the Euro? What possible incentive would they have to do that? They can just keep managing the Forint and government budget deficits to where they never comply with the Maastricht Treaty. | Jun 24 23:25 |
| MinceR | hungary will probably keep falling further and further behind the requirements as the nazis fuck up the economy even more | Jun 24 23:26 |
| MinceR | maybe these morons believe they can compete with red china at cheap slave labor if only they manage to lower wages enough | Jun 24 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Same thing going on here, MinceR | Jun 24 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Red states. | Jun 24 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, If $7.25 an hour doesn't work, you can always try slave labor. Work prisoners for 50 cents an hour in Commissary funds. The Republicans can always find more people smoking pot to lock up forever. | Jun 24 23:30 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 24 23:32 |
| MinceR | have they started having their slaves breed in prison yet? | Jun 24 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | No, they do that enough on the outside. | Jun 24 23:36 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 24 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | They parole people long enough to get pregnant sometimes. | Jun 24 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | Then they do something out of desperation, go back in, give birth in prison. | Jun 24 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | State takes the baby and puts it in a foster home where it'll get abused and end up in prison later. | Jun 24 23:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/5v4bLC6sJU (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 24 23:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gtk | Jun 24 23:57 |
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| cubexyz | wow, archive.org got 1924 toronto directory | 02:46 |
| cubexyz | sarcastic :) | 02:47 |
| cubexyz | only 93 years old, are the copyright maximalists sure it's old enough? | 02:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Back to the X Server for me. :P | 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | Thought I'd try Wayland out again after some updates. | 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | It's just hell on wheels right now except for Gnome apps. | 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Looks like they're keeping Mono updated in Fedora. | 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | Desktop apps using it are getting pretty crusty. | 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | They all got abandoned around two years ago, it seems. | 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/876980028864593920 | 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Manjaro 17.0.2-rc2 released (G,K,X) | 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec https://t.co/tyfo0esTC4 (www.tuxmachines.org) | 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ManjaroLinux #gnu #linux | 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 04:30 | |
| [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 17.0.2-rc2 released (G,K,X) | Tux Machines | 04:30 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Google says "New sign in from Safari on Linux". | 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | You can't tell me that nobody at Google has heard of Gnome. | 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/102179 | 04:48 |
| [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical, Ubuntu, Unity, KeePassXC Snap, and MAAS | Tux Machines | 04:48 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Maybe better not to recommend Ubuntu. | 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | Their "Intellectual Property Agreement" is getting to be a pretty nasty EULA. | 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | Asking people to respect your trademarks is fine, but they go way further. | 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | They also mention "Ubuntu Patents". | 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | I think Linux Mint is okay as long as it's the Debian Edition. | 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | They've basically taken Debian Testing and made a easy version for it that rolls. | 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | But not to the point where a broken package is likely to get in. | 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | So LMDE should probably be the default, but they seem to just be keeping their options open. | 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | As Canonical gets nastier, that's a good idea. | 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefulyl it won't be too hard to upgrade an in place system to the Debian Edition later. | 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQLbakWESkw&list=PLuKg-WhduhkksJoqkj9aJEnN7v0mx8yxC&index=1 | 05:00 |
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| DaemonFC | https://blogs.gnome.org/ernestask/2017/03/03/autoconf-and-meson-walk-into-a-bar/ | 05:48 |
| [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- blogs.gnome.org | Autoconf and Meson walk into a bar… – another “another GNOME blog” [ http://ur1.ca/r0yoz ] | 05:48 | |
| DaemonFC | Getting rid of Autocrap. Whoop! Whoop! | 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/11/28/microsoft_update_servers_left_all_azure_rhel_instances_hackable/ | 05:57 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-nature-of-weenies | 06:28 |
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| MinceR | meson works? just wait until the gnome/"free"desktop/systemd guys get their hands on it. | 06:29 |
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