IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: November 19th, 2017 – November 25th, 2017

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TweetTuxMachines	@PABHERE Stretch, Chromium 62 Browser https://t.co/dWzC79vuIq	Nov 19 00:08
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MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/UEjEOEM.png	Nov 19 00:12
DaemonFC	http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1711.2/02088.html	Nov 19 00:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu \| Linux-Kernel Archive: [GIT PULL] platform-drivers-x86 for 4.15-1		Nov 19 00:21
DaemonFC	- Add Lenovo Yoga 920-13IKB to no_hw_rfkill dmi list	Nov 19 00:21
DaemonFC	Heh.	Nov 19 00:21
DaemonFC	I wonder if everything on that laptop actually works under Linux.	Nov 19 00:22
DaemonFC	http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1601.2/04810.html	Nov 19 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu \| Linux-Kernel Archive: Re: [PATCH] ideapad-laptop: Add Lenovo Yoga 700 to no_hw_rfkill dmi list		Nov 19 00:22
DaemonFC	It looks like many or most Lenovo laptops need to be on that list.	Nov 19 00:22
DaemonFC	Or else the wifi stops working.	Nov 19 00:22
MinceR	what about thinkpads?	Nov 19 00:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932043042055475200	Nov 19 00:31
TweetTuxMachines	'Turbo Boost Max 3.0' and Mesa 17.2.4	Nov 19 00:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jlv0HLvjJ4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 19 00:31
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DaemonFC	MinceR, I don't know.	Nov 19 00:35
DaemonFC	The IdeaPads for sure.	Nov 19 00:35
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/ys4vB	Nov 19 00:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932043540762382338	Nov 19 00:38
TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Nov 19 00:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932045320845975552	Nov 19 00:40
TweetTuxMachines	Links 18/11/2017: Raspberry Digital Signage 10, New Nano	Nov 19 00:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/jlv0HLvjJ4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 19 00:46
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/YFHRk	Nov 19 00:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932047390944751617	Nov 19 01:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/vR5zOHuIRM (techrights.org)	Nov 19 01:20
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DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWClgxmSucE	Nov 19 03:07
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DaemonFC	MinceR, Best scene in the series so far.	Nov 19 03:07
DaemonFC	I noticed that the Hosts don't seem to know what the FN P90s are so they treat them like rifles.	Nov 19 03:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932170885167042560	Nov 19 08:59
TweetTuxMachines	How To Get Started With The Ubuntu Linux Distro	Nov 19 08:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7dFaBBzz4p (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 19 08:59
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@KimDotcom Enjoy family. You've earned it.'		Nov 19 09:01
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'How To Get Started With The Ubuntu Linux...'		Nov 19 09:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932178051219230720	Nov 19 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	Announcing Season of KDE 2018	Nov 19 09:27
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Announcing Season of KDE 2018 https://t.co/lWTuSLj1QB...'		Nov 19 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932179265822560256	Nov 19 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.15 Is A Huge Update For Both AMD CPU & Radeon GPU	Nov 19 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	Owners	Nov 19 09:32
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DaemonFC	http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/02/client-side-window-decorations-and-wayland/	Nov 19 10:03
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DaemonFC	"Just on X11 people realized that server side decorations are the better choice[...]".	Nov 19 10:03
DaemonFC	Well, if the people who gave us X11 said it....	Nov 19 10:03
DaemonFC	The main problem with "choice" in the way that *nix people mean it is you have a hundred choices and most of them are crap and/or someone's academic research project that got picked up by a standards consortium.	Nov 19 10:07
DaemonFC	There's probably over 100 window managers for X11, but most people only use like 5.	Nov 19 10:07
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DaemonFC	Daniel Stone said one reason they won't touch Core X11 is because it would "Probably break some terrible Motif app from 1995.".	Nov 19 10:08
DaemonFC	I don't see why that should stop them.	Nov 19 10:08
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DaemonFC	Are more people trying to run a pre-historic Motif app or GNOME?	Nov 19 10:08
DaemonFC	I guess Wayland is one way of solving that problem. Start over with a clean slate and move X11 out of the way and into a backward compatibility context.	Nov 19 10:09
cubexyz	I use motif software all the time	Nov 19 10:09
DaemonFC	It might have been better to just fix X11 cases where something 20 years old would break and that's all.	Nov 19 10:10
cubexyz	geomview and imagemagick	Nov 19 10:10
cubexyz	not to mention the programs I wrote use motif	Nov 19 10:10
cubexyz	there's no "motif software from 1995" that I can think of that people use	Nov 19 10:11
cubexyz	so Daniel Stone is full of it	Nov 19 10:11
cubexyz	it's a false premise...	Nov 19 10:12
cubexyz	just like I don't use X11 from 1995...	Nov 19 10:12
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWQh_DmDLKQ	Nov 19 10:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932179658296254465	Nov 19 10:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Owners	Nov 19 10:13
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DaemonFC	You still see things like the screen lockeer problems if you use GNOME on X today.	Nov 19 10:13
DaemonFC	Basically, anyone can see what's on your desktop for a few seconds and all they have to do is jiggle the mouse.	Nov 19 10:13
DaemonFC	It's embarrassing because you tell people hey here's this great OS, and then it's doing crap that Windows doesn't even do.	Nov 19 10:14
DaemonFC	So, moving to Wayland was the right thing at the right time for Ubuntu.	Nov 19 10:14
cubexyz	now, I wouldn't say I _never_ use X11 software from 1994 or 1995 but that's different since I research the history of X	Nov 19 10:15
DaemonFC	Not sure how long hobbling around with X11 would have been viable. It's overstayed its welcome already.	Nov 19 10:15
cubexyz	that's not for day to day stuff	Nov 19 10:15
DaemonFC	There's talk of making KDE and GNOME completely independent of X11.	Nov 19 10:15
DaemonFC	Perhaps GTK+ 4 won't even have code to support X11 in the toolkit.	Nov 19 10:15
DaemonFC	I don't see any reason why there should be. Old apps that need GTK+ 1, 2, and 3 can still run on XWayland.	Nov 19 10:16
XRevan86	DaemonFC: Because otherwise no one will use GTK+ 4?	Nov 19 10:17
XRevan86	Who needs a toolkit that can't work on most GNU/Linux desktops?	Nov 19 10:17
XRevan86	DaemonFC: Cinnamon, for one thing, can't do Wayland currently.	Nov 19 10:17
DaemonFC	At this point I'd say fuck em.	Nov 19 10:19
DaemonFC	That's like shooting the guy in the front of the race in the foot so the obese chain smoker in the Mart Kart can keep up.	Nov 19 10:19
DaemonFC	Why?	Nov 19 10:19
cubexyz	also I use xautolock on slackware and it works fine	Nov 19 10:20
cubexyz	if it didn't work right I wouldn't use it	Nov 19 10:20
XRevan86	DaemonFC: That's pretty much against the FOSS spirit.	Nov 19 10:20
DaemonFC	If they want to keep using broken software that's their decision.	Nov 19 10:20
XRevan86	DaemonFC: So no one would care about such a toolkit.	Nov 19 10:20
DaemonFC	That's incorrect.	Nov 19 10:20
DaemonFC	Things have been moving towards GNOME for some time now.	Nov 19 10:20
XRevan86	except GNOME, of course	Nov 19 10:21
DaemonFC	All the most popular and influential distributions default to it.	Nov 19 10:21
XRevan86	DaemonFC: They do?	Nov 19 10:21
DaemonFC	Bugs in KDE never get fixed.	Nov 19 10:21
DaemonFC	Or they try fixing it several times and end up breaking other things in the process.	Nov 19 10:21
cubexyz	also xscreensaver works fine.. jiggling the mouse merely unblanks the screen	Nov 19 10:21
cubexyz	I'm not saying X11 is some perfect thing, but it works well enough	Nov 19 10:22
DaemonFC	Seriously, you read the changelogs and they go on and on but nothing you're having a problem with _ever_ gets fixed.	Nov 19 10:22
DaemonFC	The inline spell check on HiDPI has been broken for three years now.	Nov 19 10:22
DaemonFC	Nobody knows why. The KDE bug system is a ghost town.	Nov 19 10:22
DaemonFC	Screen savers actually are a bad idea.	Nov 19 10:23
DaemonFC	They encourage the user to waste power when the screen could just be blanked.	Nov 19 10:23
cubexyz	that's what I set mine up for... just blank	Nov 19 10:23
cubexyz	or you could just turn off your monitor	Nov 19 10:24
DaemonFC	That's assuming that your screen actually comes back on after it blanks if you're using X11.	Nov 19 10:24
DaemonFC	That's not a sure thing.	Nov 19 10:24
cubexyz	you still should be able to ctrl-alt-backspace	Nov 19 10:25
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cubexyz	normally I don't use xscreensaver but xfce4 uses it so I have it on one box	Nov 19 10:26
cubexyz	chromeos just blanks itself	Nov 19 10:26
DaemonFC	LMAO at 35:07	Nov 19 10:26
DaemonFC	Chrome OS also doesn't use X.	Nov 19 10:26
DaemonFC	Never has!	Nov 19 10:26
DaemonFC	The question is why has GNU/Linux been saddled with a broken state of the 1980s display server for so long?	Nov 19 10:27
cubexyz	there's been several alternatives written	Nov 19 10:29
cubexyz	Sun made NeWS quite a long time ago	Nov 19 10:30
DaemonFC	Yeah, and they had an X Server for NeWS. :P	Nov 19 10:30
DaemonFC	I'll bet that was fun on an old computer with few resources.	Nov 19 10:30
cubexyz	I can only assume that nothing worked as well as X11 for most use cases	Nov 19 10:31
DaemonFC	X11 basically stagnated under XFree86.	Nov 19 10:31
cubexyz	name another platform independent graphics system that works better	Nov 19 10:32
DaemonFC	Whenever they wanted something new they just made more extensions, never got rid of anything old that nobody was using anymore, and if you were happy to wait 8 months for the new Radeon card to actually work, well, you found your ideal display server.	Nov 19 10:32
DaemonFC	X11 is still around because most unix systems don't need a GUI so nobody has ever cared enough to fix it.	Nov 19 10:33
DaemonFC	And when something that is actually a serious product has come along in the last nearly 20 years, it doesn't have an X Server to begin with.	Nov 19 10:34
DaemonFC	I think it's just that it took someone this long to care about whether graphics work right or not on GNU/Linux. I never had a system where I had to configure X and was like "I'm glad I did all of that.".	Nov 19 10:36
DaemonFC	xorg.conf was a nightmare. Before autoconfig, it was seven circles of hell to get your graphics properly set up.	Nov 19 10:36
DaemonFC	Nvidia was basically the way to go back then because there was no open source driver for anything that would actually use the hardware as much more than a dumb framebuffer.	Nov 19 10:37
oiaohm	DaemonFC: Not exactly true. X11 started with user mode setting nightmares because Unix was totally fragmented.	Nov 19 10:38
DaemonFC	And that remained the case until around 2008/2009?	Nov 19 10:38
DaemonFC	When did the open source radeon driver become useful?	Nov 19 10:38
cubexyz	I use the radeon driver and radeonfb every day	Nov 19 10:39
oiaohm	DaemonFC: directfb and ywindows and others did not get support because that would require doing something that was not cross solaris, freebsd, Aix ...	Nov 19 10:39
DaemonFC	Well, I mean I don't want it to take my expensive graphics and turn them into a framebuffer.	Nov 19 10:39
DaemonFC	The state of X11 and open source drivers wass "unusable crap" until AMD bought up ATI.	Nov 19 10:40
oiaohm	DaemonFC: directfb did have extensions for opengl on linux framebuffer then it came no drivers.	Nov 19 10:40
DaemonFC	And after many, many years of X.org.	Nov 19 10:40
DaemonFC	oiaohm, I just bypassed the whole thing and loaded the Nvidia driver because I knew nothing else would work.	Nov 19 10:41
oiaohm	DaemonFC: yes you are forgetting until AMD bought ATI there were a few companies selling closed source X11 servers for Unixes with acceleration.	Nov 19 10:41
DaemonFC	Was pretty common that you couldn't update Fedora for 1-2 months after the new release because Nvidia hadn't caught up yet.	Nov 19 10:42
oiaohm	DaemonFC: thing that people miss is not that Unix did not require a GUI but many parties were profiting out the need.	Nov 19 10:42
DaemonFC	I think maybe once the proprietary Nvidia driver was usable on release day, and that was in several years.	Nov 19 10:42
DaemonFC	oiaohm, I haven't used CDE/Motif, but it looks fucking awful.	Nov 19 10:43
DaemonFC	Like, makes Windows 95 look pleasant.	Nov 19 10:43
oiaohm	DaemonFC: I have used CDE. Usage wise CDE is not any worse than early xfce.	Nov 19 10:45
DaemonFC	Early KDE was much better, even though people say it was inspired by CDE.	Nov 19 10:45
oiaohm	DaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce#/media/File:Xfce3.jpg Xfce 2 and 3 are about CDE.	Nov 19 10:47
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cubexyz	mwm isn't too bad	Nov 19 10:47
cubexyz	you can change the look	Nov 19 10:47
cubexyz	http://maxhost.org/other/mwm-with-antialiased-fonts.png	Nov 19 10:48
cubexyz	new xfce4 looks pretty good	Nov 19 10:49
oiaohm	DaemonFC: KDE name is a pun on CDE name. So not exactly inspired by the features of KDE.	Nov 19 10:49
oiaohm	DaemonFC: opps so not exactly inspired by the features of CDE.	Nov 19 10:49
cubexyz	what's the screen snapshot program on xfce4?	Nov 19 10:50
oiaohm	DaemonFC: basically ignore Motif horrible theming in CDE it is quite a usable interface.	Nov 19 10:50
oiaohm	DaemonFC: its not like Nvidia has given up on charging the high end for features. http://www.nvidia.com/object/grid-technology.html and Nvidia adding virtual machine detection and failure to their windows and Linux drivers as well.	Nov 19 10:52
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: think about it until recently if you wanted the opengl conformance test suite you had to sign NDA and have someone pay money. This is not helpful for attempting to develop open source drivers or confirm that closed source drivers are correctly claiming features.	Nov 19 10:54
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: the Linux/Unix graphics stack has been infested with a stack of people with their hands out demanding signing NDA and paying money.	Nov 19 10:55
cubexyz	ok, here's what xfce4 looks like on my slack box:	Nov 19 10:56
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/slackware-xfce4-nov-2017.png	Nov 19 10:56
cubexyz	basically does all the things I want	Nov 19 10:57
DaemonFC	Going to bed. gn	Nov 19 10:57
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oiaohm	cubexyz: xfce 4 and newer have gone away from the CDE look.	Nov 19 10:57
oiaohm	cubexyz: but xfce 3 and before work well enough for a lot of usage cases.	Nov 19 10:57
cubexyz	well, I wasn't about to defend CDE :)	Nov 19 10:59
cubexyz	I merely state that X11 and openmotif are useful	Nov 19 10:59
oiaohm	Most of the Unix graphical issues were not the wm but it was all the different hands out wanting money to make something that worked.	Nov 19 10:59
cubexyz	I'd rather Xvesa and Xtiny were still maintained	Nov 19 11:01
cubexyz	some form of simplified X11 for study purposes	Nov 19 11:01
cubexyz	still waiting for someone to mention a superior platform independent graphics system...	Nov 19 11:04
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oiaohm	cubexyz: really all of them include X11 have had their issues.	Nov 19 11:15
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cubexyz	X11 works well enough	Nov 19 11:53
cubexyz	I'm glad to have it	Nov 19 11:57
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cubexyz	maybe I'll try putting chromium os on a normal computer	Nov 19 12:21
cubexyz	or maybe not	Nov 19 12:22
cubexyz	slackware seems to work ok	Nov 19 12:22
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MinceR	19 110724 < DaemonFC> The main problem with "choice" in the way that *nix people mean it is you have a hundred choices and most of them are crap and/or someone's	Nov 19 14:22
MinceR	not specific to unix	Nov 19 14:22
MinceR	also, did Martin Graesslin somehow get renamed to Martin Floser?	Nov 19 14:33
cubexyz	well even if I complain about stuff I don't like I do try to correct things	Nov 19 14:35
cubexyz	didn't like the way wall was working... so I patched it	Nov 19 14:36
cubexyz	older x2x didn't have -north, so I patched that	Nov 19 14:36
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/gJjgH.gif	Nov 19 14:38
cubexyz	I didn't like typing in "xscanimage -d mustek:/dev/sg0" etc	Nov 19 14:41
cubexyz	it's arcane and hard to remember... but I adapted to it	Nov 19 14:41
cubexyz	unix was never very user friendly	Nov 19 14:43
cubexyz	it assumes you know what you're doing	Nov 19 14:43
MinceR	unix is user friendly	Nov 19 14:44
MinceR	but it chooses its friends	Nov 19 14:44
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schestowitz	MinceR: cure	Nov 19 15:32
schestowitz	cute I mean	Nov 19 15:32
schestowitz	But I'd never want to work in such an environment	Nov 19 15:32
schestowitz	Did that before, always hated it	Nov 19 15:32
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MinceR	open office?	Nov 19 15:54
schestowitz	yes, it's called that	Nov 19 16:06
schestowitz	but the term is misleading now because of OpenOffice	Nov 19 16:06
schestowitz	there are other names for this layout	Nov 19 16:06
schestowitz	A 360-degrees no-privacy setup	Nov 19 16:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932279875548930048	Nov 19 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	The Linux Kernel Is Still Rectifying The Year 2038	Nov 19 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	Problem	Nov 19 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BuSNVEPIgA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 19 16:11
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MinceR	:>	Nov 19 16:20
MinceR	yeah, i dislike it too	Nov 19 16:20
MinceR	but i rarely get a choice in the matter	Nov 19 16:20
MinceR	it's awfully popular among businesses, not sure why	Nov 19 16:20
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schestowitz	MinceR: I always assumed peer pressure	Nov 19 16:46
schestowitz	as in, you don't get to do nothing or do inappropriate things, you get watched constantly from all directions	Nov 19 16:47
schestowitz	I don't think it was designed and adopted like this owing to "worker happiness" being measured but rather something about efficiency and conformity	Nov 19 16:47
MinceR	in that case, they've overlooked plenty of things	Nov 19 16:48
MinceR	like the way it impedes teleconferences	Nov 19 16:48
schestowitz	I work at home from my bed	Nov 19 16:49
MinceR	seems more like a combination of two factors: badly interpreted 'agile' principles and unwillingness to spend resources on properly subdividing offices	Nov 19 16:49
schestowitz	keyboard on lap	Nov 19 16:49
schestowitz	MinceR: in some offices they need real-time cooperation and collaboration	Nov 19 16:49
schestowitz	I spoke about this with $wife a few days ago	Nov 19 16:50
schestowitz	$wife agrees more or less	Nov 19 16:50
schestowitz	in some jobs interactions with colleagues and walking over to them quickly is beneficial	Nov 19 16:50
schestowitz	call centres with support, howerver, means you'd get humming around from peers	Nov 19 16:51
MinceR	a massive noisy open space is not conducive to that, though	Nov 19 16:51
MinceR	i don't get why people are so afraid of text chat	Nov 19 16:51
schestowitz	they put buffers	Nov 19 16:51
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/C1nZE	Nov 19 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-At least he left presents - Album on Imgur		Nov 19 16:51
schestowitz	not sure how well the insulation is, nose-wise	Nov 19 16:51
schestowitz	MinceR: I read some articles about this a long, long time ago	Nov 19 16:51
schestowitz	I'd never want to work in a setting like that	Nov 19 16:52
schestowitz	MinceR: pedo jokes	Nov 19 16:52
schestowitz	no-go..	Nov 19 16:52
MinceR	:)	Nov 19 16:58
MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVxaL8CAO4M	Nov 19 16:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932280162334494721	Nov 19 17:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Problem	Nov 19 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BuSNVEPIgA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 19 17:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932294778447912961	Nov 19 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	A soft push for the fairer sex	Nov 19 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2adWbM1NxM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 19 17:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932295057197162497	Nov 19 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by A soft push for the fairer sex	Nov 19 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/2adWbM1NxM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 19 17:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@davidallengreen You are talking down the economy ...'		Nov 19 17:44
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@boycottnovell @realDonaldTrump Arresting people for sexual crimes is...'		Nov 19 17:44
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump When do you get sent to jail?'		Nov 19 17:45
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/CLqgi1f.jpg	Nov 19 17:54
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @boycottnovell: @realDonaldTrump When do you get sent...'		Nov 19 18:05
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/m2Lgozi	Nov 19 18:08
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MinceR	https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2017/11/19/396545cc677741a8.mp4	Nov 19 18:21
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/9VXkb	Nov 19 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Long joke ahead / take the time ???? - Album on Imgur		Nov 19 18:48
schestowitz	tl-dr	Nov 19 18:54
schestowitz	/-/;/	Nov 19 18:54
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/UK2Tx4M.jpg	Nov 19 19:06
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/osbGc	Nov 19 19:13
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MinceR	https://scontent.fbud4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23622322_1626887577333931_7392555832385497932_n.jpg?oh=3ffe350f9ba32047b383aaf5e9a3290b&oe=5A8B02E7	Nov 19 19:21
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schestowitz	At least they taught him to smile	Nov 19 19:32
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/8E945	Nov 19 19:33
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MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/TsX2K47.gif	Nov 19 21:17
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/vQSNJdk	Nov 19 21:36
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TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights	Nov 19 23:52
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Today in Techrights	Nov 20 01:03
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/KvqzDllV0V (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 01:03
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Ecuadorian embassy finds its own 'Echo' 'in-house'...'		Nov 20 06:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932496893225132032	Nov 20 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	#Android Leftovers https://t.co/UwECAopsXA	Nov 20 06:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932497876030287872	Nov 20 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	6 Reasons Why Linux is Better than Windows For Servers	Nov 20 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yXqkKXuEtX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 06:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932498450419273728	Nov 20 06:45
TweetTuxMachines	Review: #Fedora 27 Workstation	Nov 20 06:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MODfUpZNhg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 06:45
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*TweetTuxMachines @Pyrokitteh retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Review: #Fedora 27 Workstation https://t.co/MODfUpZNhg...'		Nov 20 07:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932504023571271680	Nov 20 07:02
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Google and Morgan Marquis-Boire,	Nov 20 07:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xCClMe2jEj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 07:02
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn "There is not enough money for public...'		Nov 20 07:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932505102014873601	Nov 20 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat: OpenStack and Financial News	Nov 20 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Y5U2ub8Oyy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 07:11
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schestowitz	MinceR: the videos are good	Nov 20 07:15
schestowitz	new or old classics?	Nov 20 07:15
MinceR	¯\_(ツ)_/¯	Nov 20 07:17
MinceR	like they say, "every day is owl day"	Nov 20 07:17
schestowitz	i thought owl was a d* mascot of sorts	Nov 20 07:24
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/mMTMW	Nov 20 07:29
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MinceR	that saying is older than d*	Nov 20 07:30
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DaemonFC	MinceR, Someone tossed a giant book on JavaScript into the $1 bin at the local used book shop. It's like a $50 book!	Nov 20 08:08
DaemonFC	Some of the information is dated.	Nov 20 08:09
DaemonFC	Firefox is dropping support for non-standard features.....slowly, but one or two more go each release.	Nov 20 08:10
XRevan86	They were gonna drop Pocket support but then they didn't. Kinda upsetting %)	Nov 20 08:11
DaemonFC	XRevan86, They own Pocket.	Nov 20 08:11
XRevan86	DaemonFC: Now they do, yeah.	Nov 20 08:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932506748606394369	Nov 20 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Nov 20 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rGaywdJ7JC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 08:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 09:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932537616477622272	Nov 20 09:17
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by 6 Reasons Why Linux is Better than Windows For Servers	Nov 20 09:17
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/yXqkKXuEtX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 09:17
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Review: #Fedora 27 Workstation	Nov 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/MODfUpZNhg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 09:25
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schestowitz	For a rational discussion about #brexit don't even open the #bbc Web site. They operate under fear from #tories and give platform to UKIP https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/932531432387481600	Nov 20 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: "highly speculative"...and yet @BBC has no problems quoting insane #brexit speculations. double standards much? https://t.co/yUQrdxl6yD		Nov 20 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Trickyjabs: @Colin_Lawson This is the quote given by the BBC. https://t.co/6M2INmgkcY		Nov 20 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932540339465936906	Nov 20 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: Google and Morgan Marquis-Boire,	Nov 20 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/xCClMe2jEj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 09:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/Y5U2ub8Oyy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 09:36
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TweetTuxMachines	Kernel: Linux 4.15 and Intel	Nov 20 09:37
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TweetTuxMachines	Mark McIntyre: How Do You Fedora? https://t.co/LlzNnOH2ho	Nov 20 09:53
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TweetTuxMachines	#LVFS makes Linux firmware updates easier	Nov 20 09:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fNOcZVKqKE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 09:57
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TweetTuxMachines	#SparkyLinux 4.7 "Tyche" Out Now with Latest Debian	Nov 20 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Updates https://t.co/NQyl0puHnQ	Nov 20 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 10:00
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LVFS makes Linux firmware updates easier https://t.co/fNOcZVKqKE'		Nov 20 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	@prjmellors https://twitter.com/prjmellors/status/932552852869967872	Nov 20 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	The latest Fedora OS! https://t.co/CDuMc8890Z (paper.li)	Nov 20 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	Thanks to @tuxmachines @webarea_it @laguialinux #linux	Nov 20 10:15
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TweetTuxMachines	#ubuntu	Nov 20 10:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932552929009192960	Nov 20 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Mark McIntyre: How Do You Fedora? https://t.co/LlzNnOH2ho	Nov 20 11:00
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#SparkyLinux 4.7 "Tyche" Out Now with Latest Debian...'		Nov 20 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Eballcorp/status/932576809882972160	Nov 20 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #SparkyLinux 4.7 "Tyche" Out Now with Latest Debian	Nov 20 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	@Eballcorp GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Updates https://t.co/NQyl0puHnQ	Nov 20 11:50
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/xBbZm	Nov 20 11:58
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cubexyz	building xmcd... not sure how old it is	Nov 20 13:28
cubexyz	ok, not too bad... 2004	Nov 20 13:29
cubexyz	now here is the thing... does old xmcd work better than old amarok	Nov 20 13:37
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cubexyz	https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/11/20/1251249/intel-planning-to-end-legacy-bios-support-by-2020-report-says	Nov 20 15:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932638853273448448	Nov 20 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	GNU Linux-libre 4.14-gnu: -ENOFIRMWARE is now available	Nov 20 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/skugUgiubo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 16:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932639656587464704	Nov 20 16:06
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by GNU Linux-libre 4.14-gnu: -ENOFIRMWARE is now available	Nov 20 16:06
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/skugUgiubo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 16:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932641373307760641	Nov 20 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	Games: SuperTuxKart, PAWARUMI, Radar Warfare and More	Nov 20 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Ttnlljjrcc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 16:08
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 16:08
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@voxdotcom What about @potus then?'		Nov 20 16:09
schestowitz	[15:58] <cubexyz> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/11/20/1251249/intel-planning-to-end-legacy-bios-support-by-2020-report-says	Nov 20 16:10
schestowitz	seen it	Nov 20 16:10
schestowitz	bad news	Nov 20 16:10
schestowitz	avoid x86	Nov 20 16:10
MinceR	fuck intel with a chainsaw	Nov 20 16:14
cubexyz	I don't think there's an ARM ATX motherboard	Nov 20 16:15
cubexyz	ah wait, there's Gigabyte MP30-AR0 with is for servers	Nov 20 16:19
cubexyz	haven't looked at alternatives in a long while	Nov 20 16:19
MinceR	i wonder what AMD will do	Nov 20 16:19
cubexyz	s/with/which/	Nov 20 16:19
MinceR	probably nothing, as they did with PSP	Nov 20 16:20
cubexyz	there's slackware ARM 14.2 though	Nov 20 16:21
cubexyz	so if you really wanted to avoid Intel you could	Nov 20 16:22
MinceR	how open is that gigabyte board?	Nov 20 16:22
MinceR	arm systems tend to be even more locked down than x86 ones	Nov 20 16:22
cubexyz	gigabyte has a history of sharing info with the coreboot devs	Nov 20 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932642160058527744	Nov 20 16:24
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Games: SuperTuxKart, PAWARUMI, Radar Warfare and More	Nov 20 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/Ttnlljjrcc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 16:25
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 16:25
cubexyz	ok, those motherboards are on ebay for about $100, so quite doable	Nov 20 16:25
cubexyz	ah wait a sec :-/	Nov 20 16:25
MinceR	oh, right, probably yet another product that is not sold in europe	Nov 20 16:26
MinceR	as usual	Nov 20 16:26
cubexyz	sorry, they are very expensive.... >$800	Nov 20 16:26
MinceR	:(	Nov 20 16:26
cubexyz	Logic Supply has Pico-ITX ARM boards	Nov 20 16:29
cubexyz	I don't think you can use PCI cards on those	Nov 20 16:31
cubexyz	I'll ask wedge at FSF what he's using these days	Nov 20 16:33
cubexyz	avoiding X86 is going to be tricky I think	Nov 20 16:35
MinceR	all the more motivation for me to start building an FPGA-based computer	Nov 20 16:37
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange What about @potus then? https://t.co/3oHL1CF7TK'		Nov 20 17:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Exclusive: NYT White House correspondent Glenn Thrush’s history of bad judgment around young women journalists - Vox		Nov 20 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932656463511769089	Nov 20 17:07
TweetTuxMachines	Sustainable Open Source is About Evolution as a Group	Nov 20 17:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/y612Q4147i (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 17:07
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 17:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932656706143866882	Nov 20 17:15
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/Sh1fxBvR9b	Nov 20 17:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 17:15
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Nov 20 17:15
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/Sh1fxBvR9b'		Nov 20 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932659899045163010	Nov 20 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Sustainable Open Source is About Evolution as a Group	Nov 20 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/y612Q4147i (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 17:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932661306729091072	Nov 20 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	Linus Torvalds: 'I don't trust security people to do sane	Nov 20 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	things' https://t.co/EGxa1dQlql (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 17:28
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 17:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932661904937508865	Nov 20 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	#OnePlus 5T review—An outstanding combination of specs,	Nov 20 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	design, and price https://t.co/wM2v1wPnGG	Nov 20 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OnePlus 5T review—An outstanding combination of specs, design, and price \| Tux Machines		Nov 20 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 17:30
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 17:30
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linus Torvalds: 'I don't trust security people to...'		Nov 20 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932663168475725825	Nov 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines	OnePlus 5T review: Come for the value, not the excitement	Nov 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lgmtYhiYxv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OnePlus 5T review: Come for the value, not the excitement \| Tux Machines		Nov 20 17:35
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden RIP, John'		Nov 20 17:36
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#OnePlus 5T review—An outstanding combination of specs, design,...'		Nov 20 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932664302242357248	Nov 20 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	#DragonBoard gains a camera kit https://t.co/7Y31VO86rm	Nov 20 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 17:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932665912561405953	Nov 20 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #DragonBoard gains a camera kit https://t.co/7Y31VO86rm	Nov 20 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 17:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932669423139291136	Nov 20 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by OnePlus 5T review: Come for the value, not the excitement	Nov 20 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/lgmtYhiYxv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 19:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932685019386171392	Nov 20 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	#Tizen News	Nov 20 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ziymwFArU0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tizen News \| Tux Machines		Nov 20 19:01
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tizen News https://t.co/ziymwFArU0...'		Nov 20 19:06
*TweetTuxMachines @AOkounde favourited '#Tizen News https://t.co/ziymwFArU0...'		Nov 20 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932689154261045248	Nov 20 19:19
TweetTuxMachines	The Fox Hunt - Firefox and friends compared	Nov 20 19:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WlZ6aEH4Z5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 19:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Fox Hunt - Firefox and friends compared \| Tux Machines		Nov 20 19:19
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 19:19
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The Fox Hunt - Firefox and friends compared...'		Nov 20 19:22
*TweetTuxMachines @AOkounde favourited 'The Fox Hunt - Firefox and friends compared...'		Nov 20 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932694461720748032	Nov 20 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	With government approval, OpenStack adoption continues	Nov 20 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	apace in China	Nov 20 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/EEwL7FmFks (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 19:41
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 19:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| With government approval, OpenStack adoption continues apace in China \| Tux Machines		Nov 20 19:41
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'With government approval, OpenStack adoption continues apace in...'		Nov 20 19:41
MinceR	https://imgur.com/FTjcFAD	Nov 20 19:42
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MinceR	(javascript: webtoons.com) http://www.webtoons.com/en/comedy/behind-the-gifs/something-fishy-ac-stuart/viewer?title_no=658&episode_no=325	Nov 20 19:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webtoons.com \| Something Fishy - AC Stuart - 325 \| Behind the GIFs		Nov 20 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932696032458272770	Nov 20 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	Linux/Android hacker SBC with hexa-core Rockchip SoC	Nov 20 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	debuts at $75	Nov 20 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BsPDLIFi6k (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 19:45
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 19:45
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MinceR	http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3100/fc03046.png	Nov 20 19:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932696295764103168	Nov 20 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux/Android hacker SBC with hexa-core Rockchip SoC	Nov 20 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz debuts at $75	Nov 20 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BsPDLIFi6k (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 20:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932709497449205760	Nov 20 20:38
TweetTuxMachines	Security: FOSS Versus Windows	Nov 20 20:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hp19OQZQlK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: FOSS Versus Windows \| Tux Machines		Nov 20 20:38
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: FOSS Versus Windows https://t.co/hp19OQZQlK...'		Nov 20 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932716567086944256	Nov 20 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Nov 20 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PDXfvmWdTn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 21:10
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Nov 20 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932717767538696193	Nov 20 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Nov 20 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hm0OigPQK2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OSS Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Nov 20 21:14
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932718717586296833	Nov 20 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	Software: VidCutter, Super Productivity, MKVToolNix	Nov 20 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mY2do7sSEW (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 21:15
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Software: VidCutter, Super Productivity, MKVToolNix \| Tux Machines		Nov 20 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932719140753821696	Nov 20 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Nov 20 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Rc057ahivo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 21:18
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 21:18
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's leftovers https://t.co/Rc057ahivo...'		Nov 20 21:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932720378341969920	Nov 20 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	Links 20/11/2017: Why GNU/Linux is Better Than Windows,	Nov 20 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	Another Linus Torvalds Rant https://t.co/db9TghhwHb	Nov 20 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Nov 20 21:21
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 20 21:21
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: VidCutter, Super Productivity, MKVToolNix https://t.co/mY2do7sSEW...'		Nov 20 21:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932721115939704833	Nov 20 21:25
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by OSS Leftovers	Nov 20 21:25
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/hm0OigPQK2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 21:25
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*XRevan86 finally looked up what "nepotism" means. I was looking for a translation of "кумовство" before, there it is, nice.		Nov 20 22:20
XRevan86	and "блат"	Nov 20 22:22
MinceR	:)	Nov 20 22:23
MinceR	блять	Nov 20 22:25
XRevan86	MinceR: how dirty	Nov 20 22:26
MinceR	:)	Nov 20 22:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932721630933147651	Nov 20 22:32
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's howtos	Nov 20 22:32
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/PDXfvmWdTn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 20 22:32
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XRevan86	There's a common belief in Russia that English is more relaxed about swearing than Russian	Nov 20 22:33
MinceR	depends on the place, i guess	Nov 20 22:33
XRevan86	MinceR: yeah, for Hollywood pretty much doesn't care	Nov 20 22:34
MinceR	apparently some christian fundamentalists believe that regardless of how much evil they do to innocent people, their salvation depends on mincing words	Nov 20 22:34
XRevan86	yet I heard that a lot of radiostations even avoid the word "hell" which is just ridiculous	Nov 20 22:34
XRevan86	MinceR: I suspect that a lot of people evaluate themselves not based on how they treat people but on what belief virtues they think they have.	Nov 20 22:36
MinceR	indeed	Nov 20 22:37
MinceR	https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/932732860963917824	Nov 20 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@eevblog: Brand new install of Win 10 STILL locks up on my Xeon machine. This is hopeless https://t.co/AVFEfPyWod https://t.co/GjHYgVrfA3		Nov 20 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Instagram		Nov 20 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@eevblog: Brand new install of Win 10 STILL locks up on my Xeon machine. This is hopeless https://t.co/AVFEfPyWod https://t.co/GjHYgVrfA3		Nov 20 22:38
MinceR	not the Year of Windows on the Desktop™ yet, then. :(	Nov 20 22:38
XRevan86	MinceR: Not sure what you mean	Nov 20 22:40
MinceR	a brand new install not even being able to boot?	Nov 20 22:41
XRevan86	I do not understand his problem	Nov 20 22:42
XRevan86	is this a bad thing? %)	Nov 20 22:42
MinceR	:>	Nov 20 22:43
XRevan86	https://instagram.com/p/BbskdVBjqSb another one from his blog	Nov 20 22:45
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XRevan86	Windows 10 is stealing ideas from systemd? %)	Nov 20 22:45
MinceR	would be nice if fuckerberg replaced the potato serving eventuagram.com	Nov 20 22:46
XRevan86	MinceR: Too slow of a potato?	Nov 20 22:47
MinceR	yup	Nov 20 22:48
MinceR	it's ridiculous that a site run by the corporation billions of retards go to all the time as a replacement for the web takes this long to load anything	Nov 20 22:48
XRevan86	It's running fast here, hm	Nov 20 22:48
MinceR	maybe i got the lowest priority because i don't let all their malware run here	Nov 20 22:49
XRevan86	That's the closest I got to Bistrogram so I don't really have anything to compare it's current performance :)	Nov 20 22:49
XRevan86	MinceR: I have an adblocker	Nov 20 22:49
XRevan86	JS is permitted though	Nov 20 22:49
MinceR	i have noscript and refcontrol	Nov 20 22:49
MinceR	and ublock origin	Nov 20 22:49
XRevan86	instead of refcontrol I have Smart Referer	Nov 20 22:50
MinceR	with EasyPrivacy	Nov 20 22:50
XRevan86	(https://github.com/meh/smart-referer <https://github.com/meh/smart-referer> – this thing)	Nov 20 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - meh/smart-referer: Firefox extension to always use smart referer		Nov 20 22:50
XRevan86	MinceR: I have EasyPrivacy too, of course :)	Nov 20 22:53
XRevan86	MinceR: I'm assuming you use Firefox 52	Nov 20 22:55
MinceR	i use pale moon 27.3.0	Nov 20 22:55
MinceR	mozilla can go fuck a duck	Nov 20 22:55
XRevan86	MinceR: ah…	Nov 20 22:55
XRevan86	> Latest version: 27.6.1	Nov 20 22:56
XRevan86	https://palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml	Nov 20 22:59
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XRevan86	three major releases since 27.3.0	Nov 20 22:59
XRevan86	Which means I can't test Tupogram on your Pale Moon for it is not available on the nets for download %)	Nov 20 23:00
MinceR	great	Nov 20 23:01
XRevan86	ah, no, I got it :3	Nov 20 23:03
XRevan86	on OBS in somebody's home project for Debian Jessie	Nov 20 23:04
XRevan86	MinceR: Shustrogram still performs well	Nov 20 23:05
MinceR	i don't understand enough russian for that :(	Nov 20 23:05
MinceR	i guess my address is on their shitlist, then	Nov 20 23:05
XRevan86	Tupo- – stupid, bistro- (bystro-, actually) – fast, shustro- – also fast	Nov 20 23:06
XRevan86	or rather, quick, I guess	Nov 20 23:06
XRevan86	MinceR: I'm running out of offensive prefixes %)	Nov 20 23:06
MinceR	:)	Nov 20 23:06
XRevan86	that wouldn't involve palatalisation as that doesn't transform well	Nov 20 23:07
XRevan86	Bul'bagram %)	Nov 20 23:08
XRevan86	Oh, of course: Ubogogram	Nov 20 23:08
XRevan86	Lazhogram	Nov 20 23:09
XRevan86	Of course, how would one know I talk about Instagram and not Telegram…	Nov 20 23:11
MinceR	:)	Nov 20 23:12
MinceR	molassagram	Nov 20 23:13
XRevan86	molasses? :)	Nov 20 23:13
MinceR	indeed	Nov 20 23:14
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molasse there's also that	Nov 20 23:15
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MinceR	:)	Nov 20 23:17
XRevan86	https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mel#Etymology_10	Nov 20 23:19
XRevan86	https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/med%D1%8A#Etymology	Nov 20 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org \| mel - Wiktionary		Nov 20 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org \| Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/medъ - Wiktionary		Nov 20 23:19
XRevan86	heh, both go back to P-I-E	Nov 20 23:19
XRevan86	Molasses as a word is pretty similiar in its idea to… Medovukha %)	Nov 20 23:21
XRevan86	https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/medu#Etymology hah!	Nov 20 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org \| medu - Wiktionary		Nov 20 23:22
XRevan86	So medovuha is mead	Nov 20 23:23
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead#List_of_mead_variants	Nov 20 23:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Mead - Wikipedia		Nov 20 23:25
XRevan86	Good night.	Nov 20 23:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932775920959664128	Nov 21 01:02
TweetTuxMachines	6-Way Enterprise Focused Linux Distribution Comparison	Nov 21 01:02
TweetTuxMachines	With An Intel Core i9, Dual Xeon Gold Systems	Nov 21 01:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/68T2N8nmZO (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 01:02
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 21 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 6-Way Enterprise Focused Linux Distribution Comparison With An Intel Core i9, Dual Xeon Gold Systems \| Tux Machines		Nov 21 01:02
DaemonFC	Daniel Stone on X: "If X is the UNIX way, then tell me what one thing it does and what it does well.".	Nov 21 01:03
DaemonFC	LOL	Nov 21 01:03
DaemonFC	Well, it's good at creating an utter disaster when you just want to do something crazy like normal daily use of the computer.	Nov 21 01:04
DaemonFC	I even had a case where a dual monitor setup resulted in one screen going to sleep while the other did not.	Nov 21 01:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932776083417718784	Nov 21 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by 6-Way Enterprise Focused Linux Distribution Comparison	Nov 21 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz With An Intel Core i9, Dual Xeon Gold Systems	Nov 21 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/68T2N8nmZO (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 01:25
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schestowitz	ooks like having a page on facebook pages have become completely useless if you don't pay.	Nov 21 01:33
schestowitz	“I’m worried about the impact of Facebook on democracy,” said Fernandez. “One company in particular has a gigantic control on the flow of information worldwide. This alone should be worrisome. It’s downright Orwellian.”	Nov 21 01:33
schestowitz	no shit, sherlock!	Nov 21 01:33
schestowitz	https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/oct/25/facebook-orwellian-journalists-democracy-guatemala-slovakia	Nov 21 01:33
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, Before Facebook, I got by just fine with my own website.	Nov 21 02:47
DaemonFC	Well, it was on GeoCities, but I included some adkiller code and had a domain that forwarded to it.	Nov 21 02:48
DaemonFC	For the first few years, it wasn't too bad. Then they began to cap free users.	Nov 21 02:50
DaemonFC	So most of the popular GeoCities pages said "This site is above its bandwidth limit for the hour. Check back later.".	Nov 21 02:50
DaemonFC	Before the caps, people had been using it for file hosting. :P	Nov 21 02:51
schestowitz	mastodon just suepended me	Nov 21 02:55
schestowitz	the 'pod'/domain	Nov 21 02:55
schestowitz	have not explained why, not yet anyway	Nov 21 02:55
schestowitz	outraegous	Nov 21 02:55
schestowitz	don't use them	Nov 21 02:55
schestowitz	it was always known they were poor on free speech	Nov 21 02:55
schestowitz	we shall see how they come up with an explanation for this, I've already wasted a lot of time over this	Nov 21 02:55
schestowitz	Twitter never ever suspended me. Ever. And people in Mastodon say, delete Twitter.... and it's actually Mastodon that now censors me.	Nov 21 02:57
schestowitz	"	Nov 21 02:57
schestowitz	Hello,	Nov 21 02:57
schestowitz	Your account was reported on multiple occasions for violating the instance Code of Conduct and was subsequently suspended. I contacted you about this matter on the instance and you did not respond.	Nov 21 02:57
schestowitz	Ash	Nov 21 02:57
schestowitz	"	Nov 21 02:58
schestowitz	like DMCAs	Nov 21 02:58
schestowitz	people report	Nov 21 02:58
schestowitz	and then the report is just accepted as legit?	Nov 21 02:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932806182720430081	Nov 21 03:05
TweetTuxMachines	Linux gizmo indexes photos and videos for visual	Nov 21 03:05
TweetTuxMachines	recognition search	Nov 21 03:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7Z3BwfE8OI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 03:05
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schestowitz	this is the pod admin (or whatever it's called) https://mobile.twitter.com/ashfurrow	Nov 21 03:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com \| Ash "Thanksgiving Belongs in October" Furrow (@ashfurrow) on Twitter		Nov 21 03:11
schestowitz	mental issues: https://ashfurrow.com/blog/proprioception/	Nov 21 03:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ashfurrow.com \| Proprioception - Ash Furrow		Nov 21 03:11
schestowitz	Apple fanboism	Nov 21 03:13
schestowitz	https://ashfurrow.com/blog/apple-releases-jive/	Nov 21 03:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ashfurrow.com \| Apple Releases Jive - Ash Furrow		Nov 21 03:13
schestowitz	anyway...	Nov 21 03:13
schestowitz	we'll see what its all about	Nov 21 03:13
schestowitz	Apparently someone thin-skinned complained	Nov 21 03:13
schestowitz	crybullies	Nov 21 03:14
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DaemonFC	http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-worker-leaves-for-google-criticizes-post-windows-vista-dev-strategy-518635.shtml	Nov 21 03:35
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DaemonFC	"filled with talented people"	Nov 21 03:35
DaemonFC	Must be why the Windows API is newarly four times as big as it should be for what it can do.	Nov 21 03:35
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Facebook works like that too.	Nov 21 03:37
DaemonFC	Enough anonymous people click "spam" and your post gets hidden from everyone.	Nov 21 03:37
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Or they report you for harassment. I found a way around that though.	Nov 21 03:38
DaemonFC	If you use their name in a reply, it can be flagged as harassing them. If you don't use their name in a reply, it can't.	Nov 21 03:38
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MinceR	21 020353 < DaemonFC> Daniel Stone on X: "If X is the UNIX way, then tell me what one thing it does and what it does well.".	Nov 21 06:20
MinceR	windowing	Nov 21 06:20
MinceR	also, all these people attacking X like that should understand X and then propose something better	Nov 21 06:21
MinceR	i'm sick and tired of "proposed windows clone to replace X11 #29875493874923842"	Nov 21 06:21
MinceR	"herpa derp, we'll build the widget set into the windowing system like everyone else ever"	Nov 21 06:21
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MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilh3hxNdpZs	Nov 21 07:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chemist Sketch - Monty Python's Flying Circus - YouTube		Nov 21 07:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932866740828155904	Nov 21 07:04
TweetTuxMachines	Microsoft Worker Leaves for Google, Criticizes	Nov 21 07:04
TweetTuxMachines	Post-Windows Vista Dev Strategy	Nov 21 07:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DTuzKdJXV1 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 07:04
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 21 07:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932867346766626817	Nov 21 07:05
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Containers vs Virtual Machines	Nov 21 07:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/07bzZ542Xj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 07:05
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 21 07:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932867538412818434	Nov 21 07:27
TweetTuxMachines	LiFT Scholarship Recipients Advance Open Source Around	Nov 21 07:27
TweetTuxMachines	the World https://t.co/rkB9hkh7Br (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 07:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932873062135009280	Nov 21 07:33
TweetTuxMachines	LibreELEC (Krypton) v8.2.1 MR	Nov 21 07:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MxAJOvQKIJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 07:33
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 21 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreELEC (Krypton) v8.2.1 MR \| Tux Machines		Nov 21 07:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932874450156040192	Nov 21 07:35
TweetTuxMachines	Videos: Akademy 2017 Talk, Upgrading Linux Mint, This	Nov 21 07:35
TweetTuxMachines	Week in Linux	Nov 21 07:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2YdPtftXJ1 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 07:35
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 21 07:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932875168137048065	Nov 21 07:40
TweetTuxMachines	Mesa 17.3 RC5 and Early Stages of Linux 4.15	Nov 21 07:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nEcMHhGLAY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 07:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932878748529065985	Nov 21 07:52
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Nov 21 07:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4CMbpniiuQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Nov 21 07:52
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 21 07:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932890158109745152	Nov 21 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	#Mastodon is Free Software, But It Does Not Respect	Nov 21 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	#FreeSpeech https://t.co/jmrA72PF5w (schestowitz.com)	Nov 21 08:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932890795916570624	Nov 21 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	#Mastodon is Free Software, But It Does Not Respect	Nov 21 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	#FreeSpeech	Nov 21 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zM9NhS69tC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 09:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932898007934291968	Nov 21 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux gizmo indexes photos and videos for visual	Nov 21 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz recognition search	Nov 21 09:12
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XRevan86	https://mastodon.technology/@schestowitz 404…	Nov 21 09:18
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XRevan86	schestowitz: Is that permanent?	Nov 21 09:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932899610892357632	Nov 21 09:19
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Microsoft Worker Leaves for Google, Criticizes	Nov 21 09:19
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Post-Windows Vista Dev Strategy	Nov 21 09:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DTuzKdJXV1 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 09:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932901333102923776	Nov 21 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux Containers vs Virtual Machines	Nov 21 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/07bzZ542Xj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 09:20
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schestowitz	XRevan86: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2017/11/21/mastodon-free-speech/	Nov 21 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Mastodon is Free Software, But It Does Not Respect Free Speech		Nov 21 09:20
schestowitz	Do me a favour, spread this link around	Nov 21 09:20
schestowitz	because they took my voice away	Nov 21 09:21
XRevan86	So, I guess, maiyannah was right…	Nov 21 09:21
schestowitz	who?	Nov 21 09:21
schestowitz	a username? What was said?	Nov 21 09:21
schestowitz	"	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	> Hello,>	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	> Your account was reported on multiple occasions for violating the	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	> instance Code of Conduct and was subsequently suspended. I contacted you	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	> about this matter on the instance and you did not respond.	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	>	Nov 21 09:22
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schestowitz	> Ash	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	I check my notifications once a day. Have not seen it yet.	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	What did it say?	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	What was violated. Very surprised.	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	"	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	"	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	Email notifications stopped over 24 hours ago and I cannot see anything	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	about this. Please reply ASAP with information as I have things I wish	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	to post and cannot imagine what I said which violate the ToS (I have	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	just read it again(.	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	> Hello,	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	"	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	No response since then	Nov 21 09:22
schestowitz	He's base in NY	Nov 21 09:22
XRevan86	schestowitz: maiyannah is a developer of a GNU social fork postActiv, and a few instances of it + she provides hosting for loadaverage.org which is on GNU social currently.	Nov 21 09:23
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XRevan86	schestowitz: She really dislikes Mastodon and gargron	Nov 21 09:24
schestowitz	what was being said?	Nov 21 09:24
schestowitz	re me or mastodon in general?	Nov 21 09:24
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XRevan86	schestowitz: That Mastodon's Code of Conduct is very witchhunting	Nov 21 09:24
XRevan86	schestowitz: mastodon in general	Nov 21 09:24
XRevan86	She's also shadowbanned on mastodon.social	Nov 21 09:25
schestowitz	I see...	Nov 21 09:26
schestowitz	Well, I don't even know what it's all about	Nov 21 09:27
schestowitz	nothing was said to me about it	Nov 21 09:27
XRevan86	https://github.com/tootcafe/blocked-instances there's also this	Nov 21 09:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - tootcafe/blocked-instances: List of Mastodon instances blocked by toot.cafe		Nov 21 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932902166016208896	Nov 21 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by LiFT Scholarship Recipients Advance Open Source Around	Nov 21 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz the World https://t.co/rkB9hkh7Br (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 09:28
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schestowitz	XRevan86: I see....	Nov 21 09:29
schestowitz	well, not sure what it's about, for now....	Nov 21 09:29
schestowitz	But please spread the link	Nov 21 09:29
schestowitz	to raise awareness	Nov 21 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932903444876275713	Nov 21 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 20/11/2017: Why GNU/Linux is Better Than Windows,	Nov 21 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Another Linus Torvalds Rant https://t.co/db9TghhwHb	Nov 21 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Nov 21 09:29
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 21 09:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 20/11/2017: Why GNU/Linux is Better Than Windows, Another Linus Torvalds Rant \| Techrights		Nov 21 09:29
schestowitz	They'll do it to other people in the future, XRevan86	Nov 21 09:29
schestowitz	Some might not be on OTHER platforms where they can speak about it	Nov 21 09:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/heluecht/status/932903320863338498	Nov 21 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@heluecht: @schestowitz It's easy with #mastodon (and other decentralized systems like #diaspora or #friendica): The decision… https://t.co/yQmalK3LZP		Nov 21 09:30
schestowitz	"It's easy with #mastodon (and other decentralized systems like #diaspora or #friendica): The decision to block someone is made by the administrator of the local instance. And the rules for this can vary from instance to instance."	Nov 21 09:30
schestowitz	Yes, I know, but I still have not been told what terms/code I allegedly violated	Nov 21 09:30
XRevan86	https://community.highlandarrow.com/notice/1965093 https://community.highlandarrow.com/notice/2001933 two latest _discussions_	Nov 21 09:30
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schestowitz	it's like they shoot first, ask questions later	Nov 21 09:31
XRevan86	schestowitz: https://loadaverage.org/conversation/9597791 posted	Nov 21 09:33
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schestowitz	"People going from Twitter to Mastodon are just trading one jail for another."	Nov 21 09:34
XRevan86	schestowitz: On a positive note, Mastodon's OStatus schism won't affect me that much now %).	Nov 21 09:35
XRevan86	> People going from Twitter to Mastodon are just trading one jail for another	Nov 21 09:38
XRevan86	Even if the worst is true, Mastodon is still decentralised though.	Nov 21 09:38
XRevan86	even the worst policies are doomed to not be applicable to the whole network	Nov 21 09:39
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cubexyz	ok, nedit for quick cut and paste...	Nov 21 10:58
cubexyz	faster than kedit and uses less memory	Nov 21 10:59
cubexyz	so that's an openmotif program I use all the time	Nov 21 10:59
schestowitz	you still use nedit?	Nov 21 11:02
cubexyz	for some things, yes	Nov 21 11:02
schestowitz	The only feature I miss from it is rectangular selections	Nov 21 11:02
schestowitz	I used it almost 20 years ago, last I tried it it looked all ugly because of the underlying toolkits	Nov 21 11:03
schestowitz	it didn't age well	Nov 21 11:03
schestowitz	I used nedit a lot for development	Nov 21 11:03
cubexyz	I'm using nedit 5.6 which is 2010 era	Nov 21 11:03
schestowitz	then I moved to KWrite, then Kate	Nov 21 11:03
schestowitz	Not feeling well today BTW	Nov 21 11:04
cubexyz	oh well I thought it was interesting enough to look at the source code	Nov 21 11:04
cubexyz	sorry to hear it	Nov 21 11:04
schestowitz	The Mastadon thing mostly contributes to it, even crept into my dream	Nov 21 11:04
schestowitz	Mastodon I gave lots of promotion to	Nov 21 11:04
schestowitz	For almost a year	Nov 21 11:04
schestowitz	I gave them MANY users, dozens at least	Nov 21 11:05
cubexyz	ok, I'm not up on mastodon	Nov 21 11:05
schestowitz	don't, until we figure out what's happening	Nov 21 11:06
schestowitz	maybe another instance complained, maybe a user	Nov 21 11:06
schestowitz	no specifics given to me, which is worse	Nov 21 11:06
schestowitz	and I didn't say anything remotely "radical" yesterday	Nov 21 11:06
cubexyz	I found out yesterday that freebsd makes a few BIOS calls	Nov 21 11:08
cubexyz	I never tested any of the BSD's with coreboot	Nov 21 11:09
cubexyz	but I figure everything should work as long as your coreboot includes SeaBIOS	Nov 21 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932925649785884672	Nov 21 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's howtos	Nov 21 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/4CMbpniiuQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 11:13
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cubexyz	I'm also not sure what is up with slackware running mysqld all the time	Nov 21 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932929901216305154	Nov 21 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Mastodon is Free Software, But It Does Not Respect	Nov 21 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #FreeSpeech	Nov 21 11:15
cubexyz	ok, Mincer isn't around... I was going to mention the Novena	Nov 21 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zM9NhS69tC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 11:15
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cubexyz	it's a FPGA ARM notebook	Nov 21 11:16
cubexyz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novena_%28computing_platform%29	Nov 21 11:17
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cubexyz	in the beginning before ready made computers folks would sometimes etch their own motherboards	Nov 21 11:21
cubexyz	basically assemble a z80 computer	Nov 21 11:21
XRevan86	schestowitz: https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/noscript is compatible with Firefox 57 now.	Nov 21 11:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932932026780585986	Nov 21 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	Programming: Swift, Brilliant Jerks in Engineering, and	Nov 21 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	Career Path for Software Developers	Nov 21 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ED3WXn4enV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 11:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932933001239056386	Nov 21 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat: Kerala, Amazon and More	Nov 21 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OJzZVfjtpI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 11:26
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cubexyz	XRevan86, Spartak Moscow vs NK Mairbor today :)	Nov 21 11:27
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schestowitz	[11:08] <cubexyz> I found out yesterday that freebsd makes a few BIOS calls	Nov 21 11:27
schestowitz	Odd	Nov 21 11:28
schestowitz	why connect the two at all?	Nov 21 11:28
schestowitz	cubexyz: also Manchester City plays today	Nov 21 11:28
schestowitz	here	Nov 21 11:28
schestowitz	7:45, across the road from us	Nov 21 11:28
cubexyz	UEFA yes :)	Nov 21 11:28
schestowitz	reckon they can win the Championship	Nov 21 11:28
schestowitz	will soon be 20 consecutive wins	Nov 21 11:29
schestowitz	not so difficult games ahead	Nov 21 11:29
cubexyz	Manchester City vs Feyenoord if I recall correctly	Nov 21 11:29
schestowitz	yeah	Nov 21 11:29
schestowitz	I didn't know you follow football	Nov 21 11:29
schestowitz	(soccer in Canada?)	Nov 21 11:29
cubexyz	yeah don't forget there's MLS in North America	Nov 21 11:29
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cubexyz	Toronto FC did really well this year	Nov 21 11:30
schestowitz	Barely ever covered here	Nov 21 11:30
*XRevan86 doesn't follow football, sorry.		Nov 21 11:30
schestowitz	like it doesn't exist, except women's "soccer"	Nov 21 11:30
schestowitz	XRevan86: better that way	Nov 21 11:30
schestowitz	it's a time and money an drain	Nov 21 11:31
cubexyz	schestowitz, so no MLS coverage in UK I take it?	Nov 21 11:31
schestowitz	we get sucked in because we can hear the crowd here and Manchester is well known for its clubs	Nov 21 11:31
schestowitz	cubexyz: maybe on cable TC	Nov 21 11:31
schestowitz	*TV	Nov 21 11:31
cubexyz	one of my customers pays me to follow all the soccer coverage :)	Nov 21 11:32
cubexyz	so he doesn't miss anything	Nov 21 11:32
schestowitz	oh, goos	Nov 21 11:32
schestowitz	you can get free feeds to most games	Nov 21 11:33
cubexyz	also I'm working on ways to transfer locked down PVR recordings to the computer	Nov 21 11:33
schestowitz	summaries turn up on youtube a short time after these games end	Nov 21 11:34
cubexyz	I don't actually watch TV much	Nov 21 11:34
schestowitz	I got rid of mine	Nov 21 11:34
schestowitz	we watched some documentaries last night about marine life	Nov 21 11:34
schestowitz	lots of these on youtube, never a scarcity of good things to watch	Nov 21 11:35
cubexyz	BBC Earth is on free preview this month, and it had a pretty good show about the Voyager probes	Nov 21 11:35
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schestowitz	"Thought mastodon allowed users to setup their own nodes/gateways? Are you banned on all nodes/gateways or just one?"	Nov 21 12:09
schestowitz	All my posts are currently in one instance, don't want to start again from zero	Nov 21 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932934129221500928	Nov 21 12:11
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Programming: Swift, Brilliant Jerks in Engineering, and	Nov 21 12:11
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Career Path for Software Developers	Nov 21 12:11
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MinceR	the novena isn't much of a notebook, sadly	Nov 21 12:26
MinceR	it isn't clamshell, the keyboard has to stand separately	Nov 21 12:26
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TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/59gLwFZzxZ	Nov 21 13:34
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TweetTuxMachines	7 tools for analyzing performance in Linux with bcc/BPF	Nov 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XCABtWrlpo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 13:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932965648900206592	Nov 21 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	Why the open source community needs a diverse supply	Nov 21 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	chain https://t.co/8EW2xElNek (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 13:36
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why the open source community needs a diverse...'		Nov 21 13:41
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TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Nov 21 14:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932973610947502080	Nov 21 14:09
TweetTuxMachines	Security: MuddyWater, DJI, Updates, Reproducible Builds	Nov 21 14:09
TweetTuxMachines	and Excel	Nov 21 14:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932974157435932672	Nov 21 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	Games: Humble Store, LWJGL, Beamdog, GOG and Retro	Nov 21 14:18
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: MuddyWater, DJI, Updates, Reproducible Builds	Nov 21 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz and Excel	Nov 21 14:25
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's howtos	Nov 21 14:27
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/DlqKiSbDoy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 14:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/932978646805024768	Nov 21 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Boot Times From Linux 4.6 To 4.15 Kernels	Nov 21 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Ycvb04nu3U (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 14:28
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TweetTuxMachines	Graphics: NVIDIA and AMD	Nov 21 14:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/932980209514663936	Nov 21 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Graphics: NVIDIA and AMD	Nov 21 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/4w4Ht99tTo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 15:09
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MinceR	https://science.slashdot.org/story/17/11/21/1427235/flat-earther-plans-to-launch-homemade-manned-rocket	Nov 21 15:15
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schestowitz	<odd	Nov 21 15:38
schestowitz	sounds satirical	Nov 21 15:38
cubexyz	ok, about the flat earth thing...	Nov 21 15:39
cubexyz	do they think all the planets are flat or just the Earth?	Nov 21 15:39
MinceR	i don't think they believe other planets are any more than just holes in the firmament	Nov 21 15:42
MinceR	or something like that	Nov 21 15:42
cubexyz	one can see the curvature of the earth from ISS photos	Nov 21 15:47
MinceR	they claim it's fisheye or some such distortion	Nov 21 16:05
cubexyz	how about a video showing one full orbit around the earth? :)	Nov 21 16:13
MinceR	¯\_(ツ)_/¯	Nov 21 16:18
MinceR	they'll probably say it's CGI	Nov 21 16:18
MinceR	religion is like that	Nov 21 16:18
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cubexyz	NASA has some pretty good film they could look at	Nov 21 16:37
razielle_tzu	they'd claim it was staged or faked somehow	Nov 21 16:37
cubexyz	ok.... here's the thing...	Nov 21 16:55
cubexyz	one of the claims made was the sun was 32 miles away	Nov 21 16:55
cubexyz	Mir is 200 miles up	Nov 21 16:56
cubexyz	or maybe they think the sun is 32 miles wide, I forget	Nov 21 16:56
cubexyz	it's absurd either way	Nov 21 16:58
cubexyz	https://rationalwiki.org/w/images/3/3d/Flat_Earth_Solar_System.jpg	Nov 21 17:03
MinceR	lol	Nov 21 17:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933028699170992128	Nov 21 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights	Nov 21 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MSfyh2OiRJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 17:58
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenSanders The cost of Wall Street gains (bubble)...'		Nov 21 18:13
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TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/r0bdqO0OAQ	Nov 21 18:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933036142936625152	Nov 21 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	The Impact Of HDD/SSD Performance On Linux Gaming	Nov 21 18:15
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @FLOTUS Did you get to shoot it...'		Nov 21 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933040006280761344	Nov 21 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	Is your company an open source parasite?	Nov 21 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sCeMayWI9P (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 18:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933040184865812480	Nov 21 18:34
TweetTuxMachines	LibreELEC Embedded Linux OS Now Compatible with Windows	Nov 21 18:34
TweetTuxMachines	10 Fall Creators Update https://t.co/PMEmzVlOyq	Nov 21 18:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933040900208459782	Nov 21 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	Canonical Releases Major Kernel Update for Ubuntu 16.04	Nov 21 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	to Fix 13 Security Flaws https://t.co/JG5qCuEmLF	Nov 21 18:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933041491571806208	Nov 21 18:39
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by LibreELEC Embedded Linux OS Now Compatible with Windows	Nov 21 18:44
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz 10 Fall Creators Update https://t.co/PMEmzVlOyq	Nov 21 18:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933043552875106304	Nov 21 18:47
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Canonical Releases Major Kernel Update for Ubuntu 16.04	Nov 21 18:47
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz to Fix 13 Security Flaws https://t.co/JG5qCuEmLF	Nov 21 18:47
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenWarren @SenateGOP It's trickle-up. And we all...'		Nov 21 19:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/MSfyh2OiRJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 19:23
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LibreELEC Embedded Linux OS Now Compatible with Windows...'		Nov 21 19:23
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Releases Major Kernel Update for Ubuntu 16.04...'		Nov 21 19:26
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenSanders Corrupt #AjitPai leaves a legacy that would...'		Nov 21 20:06
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange No reason for him to get anything...'		Nov 21 20:20
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenSanders Small minds speak to small men'		Nov 21 20:42
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenWarren @realDonaldTrump @FCC https://t.co/78j7dQTBUu'		Nov 21 20:42
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenWarren @realDonaldTrump @FCC https://t.co/dV3PqcvUxO'		Nov 21 20:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @zimbabwe Wikileaks should relocated to Zimbabwe https://t.co/KpZGXReoiI'		Nov 21 20:53
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @zimbabwe Non-CNN link: https://t.co/ZTD8ZBRzHB'		Nov 21 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bitcoin Prices in Zimbabwe Soar After Military Takeover \| Fortune		Nov 21 21:39
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@ManCity 85 minutes like this... https://t.co/PoPDPbwMgh'		Nov 21 21:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@ManCity Slow game by City standards, but got...'		Nov 21 21:39
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@ManCity @sterling7 @Brahim Where was Sane in all...'		Nov 21 21:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@ManCity @sterling7 Just when I stppped watching.... 17...'		Nov 21 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933088591177281536	Nov 21 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Linux, Free Software Principles, Microsoft and	Nov 21 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	Intel	Nov 21 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bfnhQnooJy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 21:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933088857507139584	Nov 21 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	#Programming Leftovers	Nov 21 21:49
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TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Nov 21 21:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933090082222952448	Nov 21 21:53
TweetTuxMachines	Tizen News	Nov 21 21:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933090965723607040	Nov 21 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Nov 21 21:54
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TweetTuxMachines	Software and Games Leftovers	Nov 21 21:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933091945940844544	Nov 21 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Nov 21 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933092749036855299	Nov 21 22:03
TweetTuxMachines	#LibreOffice 6.0 Beta to Arrive by Week's End for Second	Nov 21 22:03
TweetTuxMachines	Bug Hunting Session https://t.co/dyRmSWIKro	Nov 21 22:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@verfassungklage https://twitter.com/verfassungklage/status/933093390635245568	Nov 21 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	Tweet von Tux Machines (@tuxmachines)	Nov 21 22:04
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TweetTuxMachines	#LibreOffice 6.0 Beta to Arrive by Week's End for Second	Nov 21 22:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933093661893476353	Nov 21 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	Links 21/11/2017: LibreELEC (Krypton) v8.2.1 MR, Mesa	Nov 21 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	17.3.0 RC5 https://t.co/ZaWuCdU57h (techrights.org)	Nov 21 22:04
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#LibreOffice 6.0 Beta to Arrive by Week's End...'		Nov 21 22:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/verfassungklage/status/933093960372731905	Nov 21 22:05
TweetTuxMachines	quoted by Tweet von Tux Machines (@tuxmachines)	Nov 21 22:05
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TweetTuxMachines	#LibreELEC (Krypton) v8.2.1 MR, Mesa 17.3.0 RC5 ...	Nov 21 22:05
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TweetTuxMachines	▏ Links 21/11/2017: LibreELEC (Krypton) v8.2.1 MR, Mesa	Nov 21 22:05
TweetTuxMachines	▏ 17.3.0 RC5 https://t.co/ZaWuCdU57h (techrights.org)	Nov 21 22:05
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MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/xU2swXr.jpg	Nov 21 22:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933094053595439104	Nov 21 22:07
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Kernel 4.14 Now Ready for Mass Deployments as First	Nov 21 22:07
TweetTuxMachines	Point Release Debuts https://t.co/rOmIf4rFQ7	Nov 21 22:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933094401655521280	Nov 21 22:09
TweetTuxMachines	REVIEW: The OnePlus 5T is not only a bargain, it's the	Nov 21 22:09
TweetTuxMachines	best Android phone you can buy at any price	Nov 21 22:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BjV7Rmr57v (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 21 22:09
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MinceR	lol no	Nov 21 22:09
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MinceR	>non-removable battery	Nov 21 22:10
MinceR	>no memory card slot	Nov 21 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933094810436583429	Nov 21 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Slideshow 10 Operating System Released for	Nov 21 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi Computers https://t.co/RJiGp0EwpM	Nov 21 22:10
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MinceR	>extra malware preinstalled	Nov 21 22:10
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MinceR	>burn-in-prone amoled display	Nov 21 22:10
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.14 Now Ready for Mass Deployments...'		Nov 21 22:12
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Raspberry Slideshow 10 Operating System Released for Raspberry...'		Nov 21 22:13
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#LibreOffice 6.0 Beta to Arrive by Week's End...'		Nov 21 22:13
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.14 Now Ready for Mass Deployments...'		Nov 21 22:13
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Raspberry Slideshow 10 Operating System Released for Raspberry...'		Nov 21 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933096327998726144	Nov 21 22:20
TweetTuxMachines	Debian Buster-Based SparkyLinux 5 Development Version	Nov 21 22:20
TweetTuxMachines	Adds Full Disk Encryption https://t.co/XXCvy5Oj2M	Nov 21 22:20
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*TweetTuxMachines @opendocument favourited '#LibreOffice 6.0 Beta to Arrive by Week's End...'		Nov 21 22:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/opendocument/status/933097881279512576	Nov 21 22:23
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #LibreOffice 6.0 Beta to Arrive by Week's End for Second	Nov 21 22:23
TweetTuxMachines	@opendocument Bug Hunting Session https://t.co/dyRmSWIKro	Nov 21 22:23
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*TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LibreOffice 6.0 Beta to Arrive by Week's End...'		Nov 21 22:23
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*TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited '#LibreOffice 6.0 Beta to Arrive by Week's End...'		Nov 21 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/PABHERE/status/933098771528822784	Nov 21 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Raspberry Slideshow 10 Operating System Released for	Nov 21 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	@PABHERE Raspberry Pi Computers https://t.co/RJiGp0EwpM	Nov 21 22:24
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*TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited 'Raspberry Slideshow 10 Operating System Released for Raspberry...'		Nov 21 22:26
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux Kernel 4.14 Now Ready for Mass Deployments as First	Nov 21 22:26
TweetTuxMachines	@PABHERE Point Release Debuts https://t.co/rOmIf4rFQ7	Nov 21 22:26
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XRevan86	https://joindiaspora.com/p/10565463	Nov 21 22:37
XRevan86	> mastodon[.technology] says I was suspended for “Islamophobia”	Nov 21 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com \| #mastodon says I was suspended for "Islamophobia" Anyone else findi...		Nov 21 22:37
XRevan86	Oy vey	Nov 21 22:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/933115853343805440	Nov 21 23:32
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XRevan86	schestowitz: When Mastodon first arrived, I saw it as a positive sign for growth of the federation that I've been using since 2013. Now it seems that what Mastodon actually did is shrink the network for me.	Nov 22 00:15
XRevan86	As it supersedes GNU social but will drop the OStatus protocol eventually.	Nov 22 00:16
XRevan86	And now it feels like it also gives a bad reputation to the federation as well…	Nov 22 00:16
XRevan86	and even to the idea of federated social networks	Nov 22 00:16
XRevan86	But of course federated networks always climb out after attacks and schisms.	Nov 22 00:23
oiaohm	XRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(communication_protocol) this is the one I have been following.	Nov 22 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Matrix (communication protocol) - Wikipedia		Nov 22 00:23
XRevan86	Google Talk and Yandex.Online are dead, yet XMPP lives on.	Nov 22 00:23
oiaohm	XRevan86: I did not even know about Mastodon or gnu social.	Nov 22 00:23
XRevan86	oiaohm: The weird REST API IRC alternative?	Nov 22 00:23
XRevan86	I'm really annoyed at how they implemented personal chats :)	Nov 22 00:24
XRevan86	I have an XMPP MUC that has a gateway to Matrix.	Nov 22 00:24
XRevan86	Despite that being the case for more than a year, the XMPP MUC is still by far the dominant part of the chatroom :).	Nov 22 00:25
XRevan86	XMPP MUCs design (XEP-0045) is very dated (XEP-0369 – one day…) but XMPP is generally a lot more comfy: native desktop clients, comfortable private chatting	Nov 22 00:28
oiaohm	XRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_software_and_protocols_for_distributed_social_networking when I read down this list there are very few I know. diaspora and owncloud and that it.	Nov 22 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Comparison of software and protocols for distributed social networking - Wikipedia		Nov 22 00:29
XRevan86	I know: Diaspora*, Friendica, GNU social, Mastodon, Jappix (RIP), Movim, Nextcloud / ownCloud, pump.io, Retroshare (only heard about it), Tent (RIP), Twister (also only heard about it, but more :))	Nov 22 00:31
XRevan86	They are also missing Hubzilla	Nov 22 00:31
oiaohm	XRevan86: the list include Hubzilla but does not have a wikipedia page yet.	Nov 22 00:33
XRevan86	oh, missed it :)	Nov 22 00:33
oiaohm	XRevan86: I mostly knew about matrix due to having to do research into remote access viop.	Nov 22 00:34
XRevan86	Then… they are missing Pleroma :)	Nov 22 00:36
oiaohm	XRevan86: and that end up leading to to this https://ring.cx/	Nov 22 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ring.cx \| Ring \| Ring gives you a full control over your communications and an unmatched level of privacy.		Nov 22 00:36
XRevan86	https://pleroma.social/ Pleroma is this	Nov 22 00:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.social \| Pleroma		Nov 22 00:38
oiaohm	XRevan86: really the distributed social networking looks like early gopher and so on internet.	Nov 22 00:39
XRevan86	oiaohm: But these are not distributed	Nov 22 00:39
XRevan86	unless you're thinking of Twister	Nov 22 00:39
oiaohm	XRevan86: where no one really worked out the correct protocol to do things.	Nov 22 00:39
oiaohm	XRevan86: so lot and lots of experiments and not very much useful.	Nov 22 00:40
XRevan86	oiaohm: There are three good decentralised social network protocols out there right now: Zot, ActivityPub and the Diaspora*'s federation protocol	Nov 22 00:41
XRevan86	Zot is what Hubzilla uses	Nov 22 00:42
oiaohm	XRevan86: I know diaspora protocol has some age. I guess zot and activitypub as still quite young.	Nov 22 00:46
XRevan86	oiaohm: D*'s saw a major update recently	Nov 22 00:47
oiaohm	XRevan86: what ended gopher/http.... was when apache implemented all the common protocols in httpd and choose a default.	Nov 22 00:48
oiaohm	XRevan86: that merge event has not happened in decentralised social yet.	Nov 22 00:48
XRevan86	Relatively young I guess as Hubzilla (Red Matrix) has been around since… 2013, I think.	Nov 22 00:49
XRevan86	Zot that is.	Nov 22 00:49
XRevan86	oiaohm: Social networks have a very special thing: they are very social :)	Nov 22 00:50
XRevan86	Agreeing on something is not an easy thing for a large enough social group	Nov 22 00:50
XRevan86	But it's not like we're near a point where there's a universally perfect protocol	Nov 22 00:52
oiaohm	XRevan86: agreeing to use http/https over most other protocols was not a straight forwards process. So I would not say social networks is a special thing. Same problems existed for the prior.	Nov 22 00:52
XRevan86	Zot is probably the most progressive one	Nov 22 00:53
XRevan86	But ActivityPub is the most known one	Nov 22 00:53
XRevan86	And OStatus is the most supported one	Nov 22 00:53
oiaohm	I would say diaspora protocol is most likely most well known.	Nov 22 00:53
oiaohm	Mostly because people like me know about diaspora	Nov 22 00:54
XRevan86	oiaohm: ActivityPub is known in Mastodon (it's implemented, at least somewhat), MediaGoblin and pump.io (as they use ActivityPump, which is like a draught for ActivityPub)	Nov 22 00:55
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XRevan86	And in GNU social + postActiv as we're hyperaware about the future defederation of Mastodon because it moves to ActivityPub	Nov 22 00:57
oiaohm	XRevan86: so you suspect Mastodon is going to pull a skype.	Nov 22 00:58
XRevan86	oiaohm: gargron said it in plain text	Nov 22 00:59
XRevan86	There's nothing to suspect	Nov 22 00:59
XRevan86	He has no intention in maintaining multiple protocols long-term in Mastodon is what he said	Nov 22 01:00
XRevan86	So OStatus will have to go from Mastodon	Nov 22 01:00
XRevan86	oiaohm: Not sure what is pulling a skype :)	Nov 22 01:01
XRevan86	Dropping older clients?	Nov 22 01:01
XRevan86	Users of Android 4.0 are having a time of their lives with using Skype %)	Nov 22 01:02
XRevan86	It seems OStatus served its purpose in Mastodon: making it have a userbase from day 1.	Nov 22 01:03
XRevan86	I guess there's nothing bad in deprecating older protocols, but it's social networking, and a lot of people will be thrown of the boat.	Nov 22 01:05
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oiaohm	XRevan86: skype started off decentralised then when Microsoft took over it changed to non decentralised. So by what you described its just a protocol change not pulling back from the idea of proper decentralised to profit or do other undersided actions.	Nov 22 01:35
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MinceR	sounds like mastodon is run by crybullies	Nov 22 06:22
schestowitz	yup	Nov 22 06:31
schestowitz	did you read my blog post?	Nov 22 06:31
schestowitz	[06:29] <schestowitz> > Though it's getting worse it has not bottomed out yet.	Nov 22 06:31
schestowitz	[06:29] <schestowitz> >	Nov 22 06:31
schestowitz	[06:29] <schestowitz> > Be that as it may, reflecting on Mastodon I have always worried about	Nov 22 06:31
schestowitz	[06:29] <schestowitz> > how it is implemented in practice. While it's great that it is	Nov 22 06:31
schestowitz	[06:29] <schestowitz> > federated to some extent, the nodes are basically fiefdoms controlled by	Nov 22 06:31
schestowitz	[06:29] <schestowitz> > a local sysop who turfs people out if they don't both agree 100%. Of	Nov 22 06:31
schestowitz	[06:29] <schestowitz> > course people can and do then start their own nodes, becoming sysops	Nov 22 06:31
schestowitz	[06:29] <schestowitz> > themselves, but then the other sysops go out of their way to block the	Nov 22 06:31
schestowitz	[06:29] <schestowitz> > new nodes that they are not in 100% agreement with. Thus balkanization	Nov 22 06:31
schestowitz	[06:29] <schestowitz> > of ideas and populations continues.	Nov 22 06:31
schestowitz	[06:29] <schestowitz> Yes, exactly, and also the address of the user changes, which leads to other issues.	Nov 22 06:31
schestowitz	They had me shadowbanned for months (people told me, but I thought it was a bug), so it's clear they just didn't want me there, as if I was some radical or something.	Nov 22 06:33
MinceR	not yet	Nov 22 06:39
schestowitz	wait	Nov 22 06:39
schestowitz	read this http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2017/11/21/mastodon-free-speech/	Nov 22 06:39
MinceR	i think i have it open somewhere	Nov 22 06:39
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schestowitz	incluing last night's update	Nov 22 06:40
schestowitz	it's concise	Nov 22 06:40
MinceR	i need to clean up my palemoon session	Nov 22 06:40
schestowitz	the update matters	Nov 22 06:40
schestowitz	I will say more later	Nov 22 06:40
schestowitz	if he does not reinstate my account	Nov 22 06:40
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schestowitz	MinceR: (then it'll be less gently-worded)	Nov 22 06:43
MinceR	nasty stuff	Nov 22 06:43
MinceR	but then, this is the horrible age we're living in	Nov 22 06:43
MinceR	authoritarianism is 'hip' and 'cool' even to people who don't dare admit it	Nov 22 06:43
schestowitz	The crybully in chief has depression problems https://ashfurrow.com/blog/proprioception/	Nov 22 06:44
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schestowitz	Apple fan	Nov 22 06:45
MinceR	ew	Nov 22 06:45
schestowitz	"I’ve got an appointment tomorrow with my psychiatrist to follow-up about progress on the new med, hopefully I’ll be up to a therapeutic dose within another week or so."	Nov 22 06:45
schestowitz	Haha	Nov 22 06:45
schestowitz	he'll prescribe '' phone x	Nov 22 06:45
schestowitz	'i' phone x	Nov 22 06:45
MinceR	:>	Nov 22 06:45
MinceR	the new A[?]Phone X	Nov 22 06:45
schestowitz	"I’ve had these side-effects before when starting or stopping an SSRI or SNRI, but never to this degree. Everyday activities are really difficult and laborious. I climb stairs so slowly that my iPhone and Apple Watch don’t give me credit towards the “flights climbed” activity metric (which really pisses me off)."	Nov 22 06:46
schestowitz	Apple Watch	Nov 22 06:46
schestowitz	Which I mock for the fools who use it	Nov 22 06:46
schestowitz	spying	Nov 22 06:46
MinceR	https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/304153/ios-11-autocorrect-bug-typing-the-letter-capital-i	Nov 22 06:46
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schestowitz	anyway, a bunch of oddballs run the instances	Nov 22 06:46
MinceR	fitting >> https://translate.google.com/#la/en/malum	Nov 22 06:49
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schestowitz	context, MinceR?	Nov 22 06:52
MinceR	people whined for someone at index.hu pronouncing the X in hypePhone as the letter, not a number, so they put up a poll about what they should call it. one option was 'malum communicando decem'	Nov 22 06:53
schestowitz	haha	Nov 22 06:57
schestowitz	index.hu still a think	Nov 22 06:57
schestowitz	I still see it sometimes, but not as often as before	Nov 22 06:57
schestowitz	I guess the 'cool' kids moved on to Faecesbook	Nov 22 06:57
MinceR	don't mix it up with iwiw.hu :>	Nov 22 06:58
MinceR	index.hu is a news site	Nov 22 06:58
schestowitz	I know	Nov 22 07:00
schestowitz	but people not go to social control media for 'news' too	Nov 22 07:00
schestowitz	index.hu shows up in results sometimes	Nov 22 07:00
schestowitz	I can't read ot	Nov 22 07:00
schestowitz	it	Nov 22 07:01
MinceR	they occasionally post at http://index.hu/english	Nov 22 07:01
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DaemonFC	Installed Linux 4.14.1.	Nov 22 07:10
DaemonFC	Pretty boring release.	Nov 22 07:10
schestowitz	what did you expect?	Nov 22 07:13
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schestowitz	editor as part of the kernel?	Nov 22 07:13
schestowitz	browser maybe?	Nov 22 07:14
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MinceR	lol	Nov 22 07:14
MinceR	if it's up to red hat, it will have both	Nov 22 07:14
schestowitz	browserd	Nov 22 07:16
MinceR	systemd-webbrowserd, followed by ksystemd	Nov 22 07:18
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Well, the i915 driver has settled down lately.	Nov 22 07:29
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TweetTuxMachines	and 3.18.83	Nov 22 08:19
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schestowitz	MinceR: http://www.init.hr/denied/	Nov 22 08:34
schestowitz	planet debian	Nov 22 08:34
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oiaohm	https://games.slashdot.org/story/17/11/21/2215250/microsoft-confirms-surface-book-2-cant-stay-charged-during-gaming-sessions Ok that is nice and funny.l	Nov 22 12:48
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cubexyz	more software archaeology today	Nov 22 14:16
cubexyz	httpd-2.2.9 with ssl	Nov 22 14:17
XRevan86	I haven't even used httpd ever %)	Nov 22 14:18
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cubexyz	building kde 3.4.2 and majesty gold was maginally harder than rebuilding httpd-2.29	Nov 22 14:56
cubexyz	I just can't remember how I originating installed httpd-2.2.9	Nov 22 15:02
cubexyz	originally	Nov 22 15:02
cubexyz	now I'm wondering if chrome will tolerate my old openssl	Nov 22 15:03
cubexyz	guess we'll soon see	Nov 22 15:03
cubexyz	really I'd rather not bother with ssl on my own server but.... ebay is complaining about it	Nov 22 15:05
XRevan86	cubexyz: So, you're using old software on your servers facing Internet too?	Nov 22 15:06
cubexyz	there's just the one server, but yeah	Nov 22 15:06
cubexyz	I could just use google photo for hosting images but I don't like it	Nov 22 15:08
cubexyz	I just want http://maxhost.org/images/test1.jpg	Nov 22 15:08
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cubexyz	simple	Nov 22 15:08
cubexyz	but ebay wants everybody to use https	Nov 22 15:08
XRevan86	cubexyz: Can you check if /tmp/oh_man exists on the server?	Nov 22 15:10
cubexyz	it does not	Nov 22 15:11
XRevan86	cubexyz: Good, pwning through "shellshock" didn't work :D	Nov 22 15:11
cubexyz	I've made all sorts of improvements to the old software	Nov 22 15:12
cubexyz	here we are: sept 28th, 2014: patched /bin/bash due to shellshock	Nov 22 15:13
XRevan86	cubexyz: I'm sure it's still very pwnable %).	Nov 22 15:13
XRevan86	I just don't follow the security news so I've no idea what long standing security bugs are out there waiting to be expoited.	Nov 22 15:13
cubexyz	but if that was true, wouldn't I have been "pwned" years ago?	Nov 22 15:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: It could just be Elusive Joe's principle	Nov 22 15:14
cubexyz	ok, maybe you could suggest a free host that would do what I want	Nov 22 15:15
XRevan86	cubexyz: Um… what's wrong with the current one? Can't it simply get a supported OS?	Nov 22 15:16
cubexyz	is "Elusive Joe" a russian expression? :)	Nov 22 15:17
cubexyz	the current one is the one I run	Nov 22 15:17
XRevan86	cubexyz: It is :)	Nov 22 15:19
XRevan86	It's from an anecdote	Nov 22 15:21
XRevan86	Got popular on the Internet	Nov 22 15:21
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XRevan86	A small town in the West American prairie. Saloon. At the table sit two cowboys, a local and a foreigner and drink whisky. Then suddenly on the street somebody rushes his way on great speed, shooting in every direction from revolvers. In the saloon nobody pays attention. The out-of-towner asks the local:	Nov 22 15:27
XRevan86	- Billy?	Nov 22 15:27
XRevan86	- Yes, Harry?	Nov 22 15:27
XRevan86	- What was it, Billy?	Nov 22 15:27
XRevan86	- That was Elusive Joe, Harry.	Nov 22 15:27
XRevan86	- Why is he called Elusive Joe, Billy?	Nov 22 15:27
XRevan86	- Because nobody has yet captured him, Harry.	Nov 22 15:27
XRevan86	- Why hasn't he been captured yet, Billy?	Nov 22 15:27
XRevan86	- Because he's useful to no one, Harry.	Nov 22 15:27
XRevan86	cubexyz: Here's the anecdote, translated by myself just now %).	Nov 22 15:27
XRevan86	I know I did that here before but it's easier to translate again than find the previous rendition	Nov 22 15:28
XRevan86	So the Elusive Joe principle is that some people/systems/etc. are safe because nobody cares to attack them :).	Nov 22 15:29
cubexyz	fine	Nov 22 15:30
cubexyz	I don't want any evil geniuses attacking me	Nov 22 15:30
MinceR	unfortunately, automatized attacks often don't care if the target is useful or not	Nov 22 15:32
MinceR	they just scan an ip address range looking for victims	Nov 22 15:32
XRevan86	MinceR: True, but luckily they usually don't dig deep	Nov 22 15:33
XRevan86	* deeper	Nov 22 15:33
XRevan86	No Joomla exploits? Maybe WordPress? No easy SSH password? No shellshock? Oh well.	Nov 22 15:34
cubexyz	yeah I try not to type my server passwords in IRC :)	Nov 22 15:35
XRevan86	cubexyz: There's no need for an evil genius, just somebody who knows just a little bit about the topic.	Nov 22 15:35
XRevan86	I'm sure if I'd just visit apache httpd's changelog, I'd find a dozen possible vulnerabilies to use.	Nov 22 15:36
XRevan86	* vulnerabilities	Nov 22 15:37
cubexyz	at least I've got ssl working	Nov 22 15:38
cubexyz	still have to fine tune it a bit	Nov 22 15:38
XRevan86	cubexyz: which version?	Nov 22 15:38
XRevan86	if SSLv3.0, then I doubt Amazon will accept that snakeoil %)	Nov 22 15:39
cubexyz	hmmm	Nov 22 15:39
XRevan86	The lowest acceptable version generally is TLSv1.0 (SSLv3.1), and lately it shifts to TLSv1.1 (SSLv3.2).	Nov 22 15:41
XRevan86	and of course there's also a million ways of making an unacceptable certificate with that too	Nov 22 15:42
XRevan86	(15:17:31) cubexyz: the current one is the one I run	Nov 22 15:45
XRevan86	cubexyz: What's the problem with that? o_0	Nov 22 15:45
XRevan86	Just, you know, get the latest OpenBSD there, or something. Or Devuan, Gentoo, FreeBSD, you name it.	Nov 22 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933346189713567744	Nov 22 15:50
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TweetTuxMachines	Inspiring the Next Generation of Open Source	Nov 22 15:51
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XRevan86	cubexyz: Oh, I didn't apply shellshock properly. Check for /tmp/oh_man again. Just in case.	Nov 22 15:56
cubexyz	it's still not there	Nov 22 15:56
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Inspiring the Next Generation of Open Source ...'		Nov 22 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933363924493271042	Nov 22 16:02
TweetTuxMachines	#ONAP Rolls Out Amsterdam Release	Nov 22 16:02
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TweetTuxMachines	Software and Development: CodeBlocks, Cumulonimbus,	Nov 22 16:04
TweetTuxMachines	LibreOffice, devRantron, GCC	Nov 22 16:04
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XRevan86	cubexyz: And now? :D	Nov 22 16:06
cubexyz	dude... are you attacking my poor host?	Nov 22 16:08
cubexyz	and no, nothing in /tmp that shouldn't be there	Nov 22 16:08
cubexyz	https://www.maxhost.org should work now :)	Nov 22 16:08
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XRevan86	cubexyz: I'm trying to with newer shellshocks :)	Nov 22 16:09
XRevan86	cubexyz: works, yeah	Nov 22 16:10
cubexyz	great, more testing	Nov 22 16:10
XRevan86	cubexyz: but all links lead to http://	Nov 22 16:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933365589996863488	Nov 22 16:10
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cubexyz	yeah, the links don't point to https yet	Nov 22 16:11
cubexyz	thanks for reminding me :)	Nov 22 16:11
XRevan86	> <center><img src="maxhost1.png"></centre>	Nov 22 16:15
XRevan86	heh	Nov 22 16:15
XRevan86	should be </center>	Nov 22 16:20
cubexyz	should be acceptable either way	Nov 22 16:21
XRevan86	cubexyz: But you opened <center>	Nov 22 16:21
XRevan86	center is deprecated, BTW %)	Nov 22 16:21
cubexyz	so centre is more correct?	Nov 22 16:22
XRevan86	cubexyz: no, center is more correct	Nov 22 16:22
cubexyz	the americans won't like that	Nov 22 16:22
XRevan86	but it's just a deprecated tag	Nov 22 16:22
cubexyz	oh so you mean centre is deprecated	Nov 22 16:22
XRevan86	I wasn't aware the "centre" tag even existed.	Nov 22 16:22
cubexyz	canadian and british spelling is it not?	Nov 22 16:23
XRevan86	cubexyz: it is	Nov 22 16:23
cubexyz	seems like not allowing centre would break a lot of sites	Nov 22 16:23
cubexyz	same as in KDE.. it's kolourpaint not kolorpaint	Nov 22 16:24
cubexyz	oh they're removing the center tag thing completely?	Nov 22 16:25
cubexyz	what a pain	Nov 22 16:25
XRevan86	cubexyz: yes	Nov 22 16:25
XRevan86	I think you're supposed to use <div style="text-align: center"> instead	Nov 22 16:26
XRevan86	CSS that is	Nov 22 16:26
XRevan86	It will probably be supported for the next 100 years but it's still deprecated :)	Nov 22 16:27
XRevan86	cubexyz: And <centre> is probably accepted because browsers are smartasses	Nov 22 16:28
XRevan86	> The HTML center tag is deprecated in HTML 4.01 and obsolete in HTML 5.	Nov 22 16:29
XRevan86	https://validator.w3.org/ w3c has an html linter, BTW	Nov 22 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-validator.w3.org \| The W3C Markup Validation Service		Nov 22 16:30
XRevan86	> Result: 4 Errors, 4 warning(s)	Nov 22 16:30
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XRevan86	cubexyz: Also consider XHTML :3	Nov 22 16:31
XRevan86	I like it more for its strictness	Nov 22 16:31
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XRevan86	cubexyz: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/370c55fa so I'd do it like that :)	Nov 22 16:40
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XRevan86	* https://paste.debian.net/hidden/fc4126db	Nov 22 16:41
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cubexyz	that's probably better than what I did	Nov 22 16:42
XRevan86	cubexyz: Feel free to use it :)	Nov 22 16:44
XRevan86	I've added two new additions: set a sans-serif font and an explicit white background.	Nov 22 16:44
cubexyz	ok, I will :)	Nov 22 16:45
XRevan86	My GTK+ theme sets a grey-ish background and that looks awful with maxhost1.png as it has no transparency %).	Nov 22 16:45
XRevan86	of course a more optimal solution would be to add transparency there :)	Nov 22 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933373259915153408	Nov 22 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	#Android Leftovers	Nov 22 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DU1629msft (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 22 16:47
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XRevan86	* https://paste.debian.net/hidden/c710c3f0	Nov 22 16:51
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XRevan86	touched the font size for no reason before	Nov 22 16:51
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/DU1629msft...'		Nov 22 16:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933377534317809665	Nov 22 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Updates, Intel, Uber and #HBO	Nov 22 16:53
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XRevan86	cubexyz: https://s17.postimg.org/h7su5pujj/image.png that's how it looks for me	Nov 22 16:54
cubexyz	the font on the top one isn't that great	Nov 22 16:55
XRevan86	cubexyz: Yeah, it's the default font for all browsers I know. I intentionally kept it to see how most people see things.	Nov 22 16:56
XRevan86	it's Liberation Serif / Times New Roman	Nov 22 16:56
cubexyz	I think anyone can just change that in their preferences	Nov 22 16:56
XRevan86	cubexyz: It's very clumsy in Firefox %)	Nov 22 16:57
XRevan86	Firefox expects me to change the font for every script separately	Nov 22 16:57
cubexyz	so I figure that's true for ff 57 or something	Nov 22 16:59
cubexyz	keep in mind how old some of my browsers are	Nov 22 16:59
XRevan86	cubexyz: It's been the case for as long as I remember	Nov 22 17:00
XRevan86	and I'm using Firefox since 3.6 :)	Nov 22 17:00
cubexyz	my site also works in mosaic :)	Nov 22 17:01
XRevan86	cubexyz: My paste probably won't…	Nov 22 17:01
XRevan86	XHTML doesn't even work in IE5, IIRC	Nov 22 17:01
XRevan86	IE6	Nov 22 17:02
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/retro-mosaic-linux.png	Nov 22 17:02
cubexyz	not https, sorry :)	Nov 22 17:03
XRevan86	pictures will of course work %)	Nov 22 17:03
cubexyz	spyglass ported mosaic to windows if I remember right	Nov 22 17:04
cubexyz	and I think that's how IE got started	Nov 22 17:04
XRevan86	cubexyz: How did it though? Mosaic was proprietary, was it not?	Nov 22 17:09
cubexyz	evidently I have High-grade AES-256 encryption now	Nov 22 17:09
cubexyz	actually I don't think spyglass used NCSA's actual source code	Nov 22 17:10
cubexyz	they licensed the technology and the trademarks	Nov 22 17:11
cubexyz	yeah the license was proprietary	Nov 22 17:11
cubexyz	I've got a copy of mosaic-ck so I guess it's quasi open source now	Nov 22 17:14
MinceR	22 172110 < cubexyz> should be acceptable either way	Nov 22 18:13
MinceR	the tag is not correctly closed this way	Nov 22 18:13
MinceR	plus i doubt HTML even recognizes a "centre" element	Nov 22 18:13
XRevan86	It really doesn't %)	Nov 22 18:14
cubexyz	looks like I only used it twice as a </centre>	Nov 22 18:16
cubexyz	yeah you are right	Nov 22 18:20
cubexyz	<centre>blah blah</centre> does nothing	Nov 22 18:20
cubexyz	XRevan86, not sure the xml UTF-8 thing is needed in your example	Nov 22 18:24
XRevan86	cubexyz: It is for XHTML	Nov 22 18:25
XRevan86	for clear HTML things should be done differently	Nov 22 18:26
XRevan86	encoding still needs to be defined but in <head>	Nov 22 18:26
cubexyz	is there any danger of an old browser choking on xhtml?	Nov 22 18:27
XRevan86	cubexyz: Well, it will probably fail to understand it	Nov 22 18:27
cubexyz	ok, I'm using your example for maxhost now	Nov 22 18:28
XRevan86	cubexyz: nice :)	Nov 22 18:29
cubexyz	mosaic doesn't understand https (not too surprising)	Nov 22 18:30
cubexyz	don't think it understands css either	Nov 22 18:31
cubexyz	but I doubt anyone still uses mosaic	Nov 22 18:31
cubexyz	my free SSL certificate expires on 02/19/2018 :-/	Nov 22 18:33
XRevan86	cubexyz: You're supposed to cron it :)	Nov 22 18:33
MinceR	22 192639 < XRevan86> encoding still needs to be defined but in <head>	Nov 22 18:33
MinceR	preferred in HTTP header actually	Nov 22 18:33
MinceR	the <head> thing is a hack	Nov 22 18:33
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XRevan86	MinceR: Probably both just in case :)	Nov 22 18:33
MinceR	as for the XHTML <?xml ?> thing, iirc that can make HTML parsers fail to read the page	Nov 22 18:34
MinceR	but in general XHTML is not recommended since it's not really HTML :>	Nov 22 18:34
XRevan86	MinceR: It's too good to be HTML :)	Nov 22 18:34
MinceR	:>	Nov 22 18:35
cubexyz	MinceR, but maybe with XHTML you can do more stuff	Nov 22 18:35
MinceR	yes, but also less	Nov 22 18:35
XRevan86	MinceR: Also everything that works with HTML works with XHTML because it's fairly common.	Nov 22 18:35
XRevan86	</centre> is not possible in XHTML, yeah	Nov 22 18:36
XRevan86	such a misfeature >:3	Nov 22 18:36
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XRevan86	The browser will say "this is bad and you should feel bad"	Nov 22 18:36
cubexyz	I don't think </centre> works in anything :)	Nov 22 18:36
XRevan86	cubexyz: The browser swallowed it anyway	Nov 22 18:36
MinceR	well, <centre> </centre> works in XML and SGML	Nov 22 18:36
XRevan86	cubexyz: With XHTML parsing errors are treated as errors.	Nov 22 18:37
cubexyz	oh	Nov 22 18:37
cubexyz	more strict, as you said	Nov 22 18:37
XRevan86	That's the idea behind XHTML: to significantly reduce guessing in the parser	Nov 22 18:37
XRevan86	cubexyz: exactly	Nov 22 18:37
cubexyz	I'd rather my web pages work with lynx and links if possible	Nov 22 18:38
XRevan86	cubexyz: Hm, good thinking. I'll check :)	Nov 22 18:38
XRevan86	cubexyz: Ah, you don't have a valid cert from its standpoint	Nov 22 18:39
XRevan86	cubexyz: You should give httpd the full chain	Nov 22 18:39
MinceR	https://hixie.ch/advocacy/xhtml	Nov 22 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hixie.ch \| Need a title in HTML4!		Nov 22 18:39
cubexyz	does lynx even support https?	Nov 22 18:40
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MinceR	http://web.mit.edu/jmorzins/www/xhtml/	Nov 22 18:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.mit.edu \| XHTML: why not to use it		Nov 22 18:40
MinceR	also, xhtml2 is dead, afaik	Nov 22 18:40
XRevan86	cubexyz: lynx 2.8.9 ate your page with no issues	Nov 22 18:40
MinceR	then again who cares, the w3c has gone completely evil	Nov 22 18:40
XRevan86	cubexyz: Sure it does, it's still kind of supported.	Nov 22 18:40
MinceR	we need a new web standards body	Nov 22 18:40
cubexyz	lynx https://www.maxhost.org gave me errors :-/	Nov 22 18:40
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XRevan86	> SSL error:unable to get local issuer certificate-Continue? (n)	Nov 22 18:41
XRevan86	it said to me this	Nov 22 18:41
cubexyz	what's it complaining about?	Nov 22 18:41
MinceR	http://www.webdevout.net/articles/beware-of-xhtml	Nov 22 18:41
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MinceR	xhtml also breaks incremental rendering	Nov 22 18:41
XRevan86	> Firefox 2.0 and below will wait until the entire page is downloaded and checked for well-formedness before any of the content is displayed.	Nov 22 18:43
XRevan86	MinceR: The horror %)	Nov 22 18:43
cubexyz	anyways I can just use http://www.maxhost.org if I really want to use lynx and not see the errors	Nov 22 18:43
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XRevan86	cubexyz: You're probably using just your cert	Nov 22 18:44
XRevan86	cubexyz: Without the full LE's chain	Nov 22 18:44
cubexyz	ebay was the one that really forces the whole ssl thing	Nov 22 18:44
XRevan86	cubexyz: What software do you use to get the certificate, BTW?	Nov 22 18:44
XRevan86	Probably not certbot %)	Nov 22 18:44
cubexyz	it was from http://sslforfree.com	Nov 22 18:44
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XRevan86	what…	Nov 22 18:45
cubexyz	a sucky 90 day expiry one	Nov 22 18:45
XRevan86	cubexyz: You're not supposed to get Let's Encrypt certificates like that	Nov 22 18:45
XRevan86	https://github.com/lukas2511/dehydrated	Nov 22 18:46
XRevan86	https://github.com/Neilpang/acme.sh	Nov 22 18:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - lukas2511/dehydrated: letsencrypt/acme client implemented as a shell-script – just add water		Nov 22 18:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - Neilpang/acme.sh: A pure Unix shell script implementing ACME client protocol		Nov 22 18:46
XRevan86	cubexyz: Consider these. Or certbot if you can (it has a lot of python deps which makes it harder to use on older OS's)	Nov 22 18:46
XRevan86	cubexyz: The idea is that you automate renewal of new certificates	Nov 22 18:47
XRevan86	and so forget about it completely, 90 days, 30 days, 12 days – no one cares but the cron job :)	Nov 22 18:47
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cubexyz	maybe I could add that	Nov 22 18:49
cubexyz	assuming the plugin works	Nov 22 18:49
XRevan86	certbot creates cert.pem, chain.pem and fullchain.pem: the latter one is the one you want, as it contains both your certificate and the chain for Let's Encrypt signed with StartCom.	Nov 22 18:50
XRevan86	dehydrated and acme.sh should do things similiarly, I just didn't try :)	Nov 22 18:51
cubexyz	I'd rather it didn't say 'you are connect to maxhost.org which is run by (unknown)'	Nov 22 18:54
XRevan86	cubexyz: What says that?	Nov 22 18:56
cubexyz	if you click on the little lock to the left of the url on maxhost.org	Nov 22 18:56
cubexyz	ok, maybe it's just old firefox that does that	Nov 22 18:57
XRevan86	cubexyz: New one doesn't, yeah	Nov 22 18:57
XRevan86	it just says in a nice field that there's no information about the owner	Nov 22 18:58
XRevan86	cubexyz: Ugh, I missed a spot: <img> must have an alt="" entry	Nov 22 19:01
cubexyz	it hasn't since 2004 :)	Nov 22 19:01
XRevan86	cubexyz: By the standards	Nov 22 19:02
XRevan86	should be <img src="/maxhost1.png" alt="Maxhost.org" /> or something	Nov 22 19:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933410777473613824	Nov 22 19:05
TweetTuxMachines	The advantages of open source tools	Nov 22 19:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hmZT6WJpgQ (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw	Nov 22 19:05
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 22 19:05
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cubexyz	I wonder if I have to change the crt files every 90 days	Nov 22 19:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933411507299409923	Nov 22 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	#PINE64 PINEBOOK Review — Is This $89 Linux Laptop Worth	Nov 22 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	it?	Nov 22 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/CXDAeKgown (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 22 19:07
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 22 19:07
XRevan86	cubexyz: Um, like I said, get dehydrated or acme.sh to do it.	Nov 22 19:07
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XRevan86	cubexyz: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a6caf725 like this	Nov 22 19:09
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XRevan86	I just ripped of /etc/cron.d/certbot, yeah :)	Nov 22 19:10
XRevan86	from Debian	Nov 22 19:10
XRevan86	cubexyz: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/ba6a54a1 here's a version of a site with alt="" and with even more XHTML :)	Nov 22 19:13
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XRevan86	* https://paste.debian.net/hidden/d251f485	Nov 22 19:15
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#PINE64 PINEBOOK Review — Is This $89 Linux...'		Nov 22 19:16
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TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Nov 22 19:18
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cubexyz	cute, dehydrated... acme...	Nov 22 19:18
cubexyz	from the roadrunner cartoons	Nov 22 19:18
XRevan86	beeb-beeb	Nov 22 19:21
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/Wt9YvwwtnI...'		Nov 22 19:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933415715926921216	Nov 22 19:24
TweetTuxMachines	Samsung DeX will finally give life to the Linux	Nov 22 19:24
TweetTuxMachines	smartphone	Nov 22 19:24
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.10 To #Linux 4.15 #Kernel #Benchmarks	Nov 22 20:31
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XRevan86	MinceR: I don't get it…	Nov 22 20:32
XRevan86	After looking up what "heathen" means, I still don't get it…	Nov 22 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933432644041367554	Nov 22 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu 17.10 Users Get Major Kernel Update, 20 Security	Nov 22 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Vulnerabilities Patched https://t.co/ksJU0PFbyb	Nov 22 20:33
MinceR	¯\_(ツ)_/¯	Nov 22 20:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933433227963961349	Nov 22 20:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933434007617929218	Nov 22 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/iDlB6zZ8Qr	Nov 22 20:40
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cubexyz	ha, they're still talking about the max headroom hack	Nov 22 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933435035612536833	Nov 22 20:42
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MinceR	https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/21/android-devices-seen-covertly-sending-location-data-to-google/	Nov 22 20:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933437557639086084	Nov 22 20:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933437667756429316	Nov 22 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux 4.10 To #Linux 4.15 #Kernel #Benchmarks	Nov 22 20:52
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DaemonFC	https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenMandriva-Dropping-32-bit	Nov 22 21:11
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DaemonFC	Not surprising. Very few people have hardware that actually requires this anymore. It doesn't make sense to maintain a 32-bit port when only 3-4% of your users are using it and most of them could move to x86-64 if they wanted to.	Nov 22 21:12
DaemonFC	OpenMandriva is the only distribution I know of that's using Clang to compile most of the system.	Nov 22 21:13
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I've been told Mageia now does the same thing	Nov 22 21:13
DaemonFC	Most distributions are dropping 32-bit x86, at least as a priority platform.	Nov 22 21:14
MinceR	it also doesn't make sense to maintain several systemd/Linux distros, yet here they are	Nov 22 21:14
DaemonFC	Fedora doesn't consider it a showstopper if something breaks and Ubuntu and Arch dropped it completely.	Nov 22 21:14
MinceR	maybe they enjoy the slow and painful death	Nov 22 21:14
DaemonFC	Debian will support it for a while for people who are using what barely qualifies as a computer these days.	Nov 22 21:14
XRevan86	DaemonFC: Also Arch, openSUSE Leap	Nov 22 21:15
MinceR	red hat doesn't mind things breaking, considering they deliberately break things and declare them "stable"	Nov 22 21:15
DaemonFC	MinceR, Well, Ubuntu did something sane at least.	Nov 22 21:15
DaemonFC	They don't use systemd-journald, at least not yet.	Nov 22 21:15
DaemonFC	They still use syslog.	Nov 22 21:15
XRevan86	* rsyslog	Nov 22 21:15
DaemonFC	Yeah.	Nov 22 21:16
MinceR	not sufficient	Nov 22 21:16
MinceR	and deadrat will probably force them to journald anyway	Nov 22 21:16
DaemonFC	Given that journald is one of the more grotesque things that systemd has done so far, that's a big plus.	Nov 22 21:16
MinceR	they hold the reins	Nov 22 21:16
MinceR	especially in the case of canonical, who refuse to do any useful work	Nov 22 21:16
DaemonFC	MinceR, It's looking like a Unity respin is coming.	Nov 22 21:17
XRevan86	Yunit?	Nov 22 21:17
DaemonFC	No, Unity itself. Canonical moved it to "community support". It still works.	Nov 22 21:17
XRevan86	DaemonFC: oh, heh	Nov 22 21:18
MinceR	DaemonFC: not from canonical, though	Nov 22 21:18
MinceR	and recently i had the misfortune of experiencing just how utterly broken gnome3 is	Nov 22 21:19
DaemonFC	Yeah, which might be a good thing.	Nov 22 21:19
DaemonFC	As far as I know, the CLA no longer applies.	Nov 22 21:19
MinceR	mouse input was ignored except to the crippled panel	Nov 22 21:19
DaemonFC	Maybe that will encourage more people to work on it.	Nov 22 21:19
MinceR	unity being unusable crap will discourage people from working on it, though	Nov 22 21:19
XRevan86	DaemonFC: Except it's probably still on Launchpad :)	Nov 22 21:19
DaemonFC	It is. It's licensed under the GPL 3 though, iirc.	Nov 22 21:20
MinceR	then again, apparently the IT industry happens to specialize on unusable crap	Nov 22 21:20
DaemonFC	That's better than GNOME or KDE.	Nov 22 21:20
MinceR	what i flushed down the toilet today was better than gnome or kde	Nov 22 21:20
MinceR	not a high bar	Nov 22 21:20
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I can't prove or disprove clangness of Mageia though, as madb.mageia.org is mad	Nov 22 21:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933449645023473664	Nov 22 21:41
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TweetTuxMachines	Distribution Releases	Nov 22 21:44
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TweetTuxMachines	Servers and Red Hat	Nov 22 21:45
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TweetTuxMachines	today's #tuxmachines leftovers	Nov 22 21:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933452313481678849	Nov 22 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	Links 22/11/2017: Qt 5.9.3 Released, FCC v the Internet	Nov 22 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rUHGwJiTuo (techrights.org)	Nov 22 21:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933452478733078528	Nov 22 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Games Leftovers	Nov 22 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/UzobxjuzLu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 22 21:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933453118708355072	Nov 22 21:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/eVEzrDhYaS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 22 21:56
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MinceR	>So if there was to	Nov 22 22:03
MinceR	>be a fully compliant HTML4 user agent, it would be quite correct to show ">" characters all over the page.	Nov 22 22:03
MinceR	fun times	Nov 22 22:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933454234699354118	Nov 22 22:03
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Servers and Red Hat	Nov 22 22:03
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/9J2xdV19da (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 22 22:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933456015064002560	Nov 22 22:07
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's #tuxmachines leftovers	Nov 22 22:07
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/tHFy8Z6EOE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 22 22:07
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MinceR	https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/269853014687219713/382767252719796227/jade.jpg	Nov 22 22:07
XRevan86	MinceR: best english eva	Nov 22 22:08
abeNd-org	LOL	Nov 22 22:08
DaemonFC	https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/22/linux_4_14_bcache_bug_destroys_data/	Nov 22 22:11
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DaemonFC	Looks like Linux 4.14.1 is more important than I thought.	Nov 22 22:11
MinceR	(nsfw) https://dangerousminds.net/comments/morbid_and_grotesque_italian_anti-german_propaganda_postcards_from_wwi	Nov 22 22:17
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DaemonFC	Actually, it looks like the article was wrong.	Nov 22 22:17
DaemonFC	The issue is still present in Linux 4.14.1 but the patch is in staging for 4.14.2	Nov 22 22:17
DaemonFC	XRevan86, Clang is more useful to make sure that packages actually build with it than for providing binaries built with it to the user.	Nov 22 22:18
schestowitz	MinceR: never seen this site before	Nov 22 22:32
MinceR	which one?	Nov 22 22:33
schestowitz	https://dangerousminds.net	Nov 22 22:39
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schestowitz	reminds me of all sorts of nazi retro sites	Nov 22 22:40
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MinceR	did you expect to?	Nov 22 22:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/rUHGwJiTuo (techrights.org)	Nov 23 00:13
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Why Linux can make you feel thankful or merely stuffed	Nov 23 03:37
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schestowitz	> Hi, Roy,	Nov 23 06:21
schestowitz	>	Nov 23 06:21
schestowitz	> Here's today's batch.	Nov 23 06:21
schestowitz	>	Nov 23 06:21
schestowitz	> I wonder how many shill accounts have been online lately to oppose Net	Nov 23 06:22
schestowitz	> Neutrality and which groups and countries are backing them financially.	Nov 23 06:22
schestowitz	> I suppose that with the way things are there can be multiple backers.	Nov 23 06:22
schestowitz	> Most of the comments against NN during the feedback period were	Nov 23 06:22
schestowitz	> apparently fake. So it would only make sense that the same groups would	Nov 23 06:22
schestowitz	> continue to sponsor activities in social control media and elsewhere	Nov 23 06:22
schestowitz	> online. And, no, the Obama administration did not make up the concept	Nov 23 06:22
schestowitz	> despite what the tribalists want to believe.	Nov 23 06:22
schestowitz	I saw some disinfo accounts, or people who repaeted the lies	Nov 23 06:22
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TweetTuxMachines	Lumina 1.4 Desktop Environment Debuts with New Theme	Nov 23 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	Engine and ZFS Integrations https://t.co/SbJUPdxQ9J	Nov 23 08:30
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TweetTuxMachines	Security: Uber, Replacing x86 Firmware, 'IoT' and	Nov 23 09:05
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TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JEhHLzIe39 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 09:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933629853219291136	Nov 23 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: Uber, Replacing x86 Firmware, 'IoT' and	Nov 23 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Chromebook	Nov 23 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JEhHLzIe39 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 09:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933631463718875136	Nov 23 09:44
TweetTuxMachines	Applications: Snapcraft, Cutegram, LaTeX Editors,	Nov 23 09:44
TweetTuxMachines	Spreadsheet Editors (Like Calc), Vivaldi	Nov 23 09:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MHU5G2sOFW (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 09:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933632386520186880	Nov 23 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Foundation and Events: Sysadmins, Cloud Foundry,	Nov 23 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Foundation Scholarship, 'Hacking' Hardware	Nov 23 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6a9wDED9oM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 09:45
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DaemonFC	https://www.propublica.org/article/facebook-lets-advertisers-exclude-users-by-race	Nov 23 10:06
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DaemonFC	https://www.propublica.org/article/facebook-advertising-discrimination-housing-race-sex-national-origin	Nov 23 10:06
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Lumina 1.4 Desktop Environment Debuts with New Theme...'		Nov 23 10:09
oiaohm	DaemonFC: yep the stuff used to bias election.	Nov 23 10:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/PABHERE/status/933679945049571328	Nov 23 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by OpenMandriva Is Dropping 32-Bit Support, OpenMandriva Lx	Nov 23 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	@PABHERE 3.03 Is the Last One https://t.co/YsBoOGtPno	Nov 23 12:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/PABHERE/status/933680418070716417	Nov 23 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu-Based ExLight Linux OS Is One of the Few to Use	Nov 23 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	@PABHERE Latest Enlightenment 0.22 https://t.co/lga9vi77R2	Nov 23 12:55
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*TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited 'Ubuntu-Based ExLight Linux OS Is One of the...'		Nov 23 12:55
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cubexyz	progres.prog	Nov 23 13:29
cubexyz	ummm	Nov 23 13:45
cubexyz	anyone remember how to allow 192.168.. in sshd?	Nov 23 13:46
cubexyz	actually just 192.168.0.* and 192.168.2.*	Nov 23 13:47
cubexyz	I think I just need two lines	Nov 23 13:47
oiaohm	cubexyz: sshd that is back to firewall rules.	Nov 23 13:49
oiaohm	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/man-db.git/commit/?id=b225d9e76fbb0a6a4539c0992fba88c83f0bd37e ok so it not just the Linux kernel getting serous about automated testing.	Nov 23 14:03
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*TweetTuxMachines @jeffreyneillong favourited 'Lumina 1.4 Desktop Environment Debuts with New Theme...'		Nov 23 14:23
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cubexyz	didn't realize dvd burners had two lasers	Nov 23 16:01
cubexyz	it's quite possible to have a drive that can read CDs but not DVDs	Nov 23 16:02
*TweetTuxMachines @avinashh2 favourited 'Ubuntu-Based ExLight Linux OS Is One of the...'		Nov 23 16:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/MyNameIsZK1234/status/933731000827432960	Nov 23 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #TheSSS (Smallest Server Suite) Linux OS Receives Latest	Nov 23 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	@MyNameIsZK1234 MariaDB & Apache Servers https://t.co/GSvJxjPXAU	Nov 23 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| TheSSS (Smallest Server Suite) Linux OS Receives Latest MariaDB & Apache Servers \| Tux Machines		Nov 23 16:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/PABHERE/status/933740159014752257	Nov 23 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu 17.10 Users Get Major Kernel Update, 20 Security	Nov 23 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	@PABHERE Vulnerabilities Patched https://t.co/ksJU0PFbyb	Nov 23 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 17.10 Users Get Major Kernel Update, 20 Security Vulnerabilities Patched \| Tux Machines		Nov 23 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 16:53
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 16:53
*TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited 'Ubuntu 17.10 Users Get Major Kernel Update, 20...'		Nov 23 16:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/933741591713460224	Nov 23 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Lumina 1.4 Desktop Environment Debuts with New Theme	Nov 23 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	@AlejosAngel Engine and ZFS Integrations https://t.co/SbJUPdxQ9J	Nov 23 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 17:09
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Lumina 1.4 Desktop Environment Debuts with New Theme Engine and ZFS Integrations \| Tux Machines		Nov 23 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933744231331631104	Nov 23 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat Lip Service to Microsoft and Financial News	Nov 23 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4TbzG9N5H7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 17:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933744420993880064	Nov 23 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Red Hat Lip Service to Microsoft and Financial News	Nov 23 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/4TbzG9N5H7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 17:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933755128389226502	Nov 23 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	KDE: Plasma Mobile and Qt Quick Controls	Nov 23 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GuzqSjGX5o (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 17:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933756461766860800	Nov 23 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	Recommended Privacy Tools (Apps, Add-Ons, Search Engines)	Nov 23 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	for Ubuntu Users	Nov 23 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2K5zSGhqvV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 17:58
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Recommended Privacy Tools (Apps, Add-Ons, Search Engines) for...'		Nov 23 18:03
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE: Plasma Mobile and Qt Quick Controls ...'		Nov 23 18:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933759133869846528	Nov 23 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	Security: UEFI, Updates, Uber	Nov 23 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wJLQYv3XCK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: UEFI, Updates, Uber \| Tux Machines		Nov 23 18:09
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: UEFI, Updates, Uber https://t.co/wJLQYv3XCK...'		Nov 23 18:13
*TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited '#TheSSS (Smallest Server Suite) Linux OS Receives Latest...'		Nov 23 18:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933764130045136897	Nov 23 18:29
TweetTuxMachines	openSUSE Tumbleweed Operating System Now Powered by Linux	Nov 23 18:29
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel 4.14 LTS https://t.co/gwJtKI5jjV	Nov 23 18:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 18:29
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| openSUSE Tumbleweed Operating System Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.14 LTS \| Tux Machines		Nov 23 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933764506718752769	Nov 23 18:32
TweetTuxMachines	Canonical Needs Your Help to Figure Out a Direction for	Nov 23 18:32
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu's Mir/Wayland https://t.co/a5OFrb9tmx	Nov 23 18:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 18:32
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Canonical Needs Your Help to Figure Out a Direction for Ubuntu's Mir/Wayland \| Tux Machines		Nov 23 18:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933765065463025665	Nov 23 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	#Android Leftovers https://t.co/adzTk7lHZa	Nov 23 18:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Nov 23 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 18:36
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Operating System Now Powered by Linux...'		Nov 23 18:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933766782556475392	Nov 23 18:40
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Canonical Needs Your Help to Figure Out a Direction for	Nov 23 18:40
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Ubuntu's Mir/Wayland https://t.co/a5OFrb9tmx	Nov 23 18:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 18:40
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 18:40
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/adzTk7lHZa'		Nov 23 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933767510721204224	Nov 23 18:43
TweetTuxMachines	Tizen News	Nov 23 18:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/q6yLAb8dJu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 18:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tizen News \| Tux Machines		Nov 23 18:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933768043397820417	Nov 23 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	From Linux to Windows 10: Why did Munich switch and why	Nov 23 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	does it matter? https://t.co/DnHfLKmgPk	Nov 23 18:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| From Linux to Windows 10: Why did Munich switch and why does it matter? \| Tux Machines		Nov 23 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 18:46
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 18:46
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Tizen News https://t.co/q6yLAb8dJu...'		Nov 23 18:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933769230398513152	Nov 23 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by From Linux to Windows 10: Why did Munich switch and why	Nov 23 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz does it matter? https://t.co/DnHfLKmgPk	Nov 23 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 19:01
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933772442132209664	Nov 23 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.15 Will Treat The HTC Vive VR Headset As	Nov 23 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	"Non-Desktop"	Nov 23 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RiFUvptawG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 4.15 Will Treat The HTC Vive VR Headset As "Non-Desktop" \| Tux Machines		Nov 23 19:01
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 19:01
*TweetTuxMachines @adymitruk favourited 'KDE: Plasma Mobile and Qt Quick Controls ...'		Nov 23 19:03
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.15 Will Treat The HTC Vive VR...'		Nov 23 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933774660969422849	Nov 23 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	Games: GameShell, GOG, Oxygen Not Included and More	Nov 23 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0U7rfZQKp8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 19:11
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Games: GameShell, GOG, Oxygen Not Included and More \| Tux Machines		Nov 23 19:11
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: GameShell, GOG, Oxygen Not Included and More...'		Nov 23 19:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933776915479060485	Nov 23 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	OSS: Configuration Management, Man(ual), Patent Traps (5G	Nov 23 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	and the Internet of Things), Sponsored Development	Nov 23 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Oh2sk3fbHw (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 19:20
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 19:20
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'OSS: Configuration Management, Man(ual), Patent Traps (5G and...'		Nov 23 19:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/933777705589510144	Nov 23 19:25
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Canonical Needs Your Help to Figure Out a Direction for	Nov 23 19:25
TweetTuxMachines	@glynmoody Ubuntu's Mir/Wayland https://t.co/a5OFrb9tmx	Nov 23 19:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 19:25
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 19:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933778413990633472	Nov 23 19:25
TweetTuxMachines	Command Line: FFmpeg, Coinmon, Tizonia	Nov 23 19:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ur3bReE7Zo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 19:25
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 19:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/verfassungklage/status/933778506382827520	Nov 23 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	quoted by Tweet von Tux Machines (@tuxmachines) -	Nov 23 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	@verfassungklage	Nov 23 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	Command Line: FFmpeg, Coinmon, Tizonia	Nov 23 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WE38wP5cA6 (tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 19:27
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/K7tGAdGcGf (twitter.com)	Nov 23 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	▏ Command Line: FFmpeg, Coinmon, Tizonia	Nov 23 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	▏ https://t.co/ur3bReE7Zo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 19:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Command Line: FFmpeg, Coinmon, Tizonia https://t.co/ur3bReE7Zo		Nov 23 19:27
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Command Line: FFmpeg, Coinmon, Tizonia https://t.co/ur3bReE7Zo...'		Nov 23 19:27
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Operating System Now Powered by Linux...'		Nov 23 19:27
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Needs Your Help to Figure Out a...'		Nov 23 19:28
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Canonical Needs Your Help to Figure Out a...'		Nov 23 19:28
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Operating System Now Powered by Linux...'		Nov 23 19:36
*TweetTuxMachines @kjjaeger favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Operating System Now Powered by Linux...'		Nov 23 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933782145541296129	Nov 23 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	Graphics: Greenfield, Polaris, Ryzen	Nov 23 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/a4gy3aRJAA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 19:40
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 19:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933782225522479104	Nov 23 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Graphics: Greenfield, Polaris, Ryzen	Nov 23 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/a4gy3aRJAA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 19:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933794556147064832	Nov 23 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	ExTiX 18.0, 64bit, with Deepin Desktop 15.5 (made in	Nov 23 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	China!) and Refracta Tools https://t.co/mpQmer1n0u	Nov 23 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| ExTiX 18.0, 64bit, with Deepin Desktop 15.5 (made in China!) and Refracta Tools – Create your own ExTiX/Ubuntu/Deepin system in minutes! \| Tux Machines		Nov 23 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 20:29
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 20:29
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'ExTiX 18.0, 64bit, with Deepin Desktop 15.5 (made...'		Nov 23 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933796157071024129	Nov 23 20:37
TweetTuxMachines	gThumb 3.6 GNOME Image Viewer Released with Better	Nov 23 20:37
TweetTuxMachines	Wayland and HiDPI Support	Nov 23 20:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/neFrhBJ78o (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| gThumb 3.6 GNOME Image Viewer Released with Better Wayland and HiDPI Support \| Tux Machines		Nov 23 20:37
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 20:37
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'gThumb 3.6 GNOME Image Viewer Released with Better...'		Nov 23 20:38
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'gThumb 3.6 GNOME Image Viewer Released with Better...'		Nov 23 20:45
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'gThumb 3.6 GNOME Image Viewer Released with Better...'		Nov 23 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/933799309816029184	Nov 23 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Canonical Needs Your Help to Figure Out a Direction for	Nov 23 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	@AlejosAngel Ubuntu's Mir/Wayland https://t.co/a5OFrb9tmx	Nov 23 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 21:03
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 21:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933803082093350912	Nov 23 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Uber Sued, Intel ‘Damage Control’, ZDNet FUD,	Nov 23 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	and XFRM Privilege Escalation	Nov 23 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TSbOCDDZ0C (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 21:03
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 23 21:03
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: Uber Sued, Intel ‘Damage Control’, ZDNet FUD,...'		Nov 23 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933804673777233925	Nov 23 21:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933805163416088578	Nov 23 21:12
TweetTuxMachines	More Coverage of New #Lumina Release	Nov 23 21:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933805463505981440	Nov 23 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Nov 23 21:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933806727748882432	Nov 23 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	Links 23/11/2017: Lumina and Qt Quick	Nov 23 21:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933807916276224000	Nov 23 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by More Coverage of New #Lumina Release	Nov 23 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/LYrQ7zSnGW (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 23 21:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933809048658595840	Nov 23 22:02
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schestowitz	Mastodon is Actually a Lot Worse Than Twitter When it Comes to Free Speech. Avoid It. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2017/11/23/mastodon-is-oppressive/ spread the warning...	Nov 23 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Mastodon is Actually a Lot Worse Than Twitter When it Comes to Free Speech. Avoid It.		Nov 23 23:51
schestowitz	maybe /. or SN	Nov 23 23:54
XRevan86	schestowitz: Is there any chance you will get back to the fediverse on the GNU social side?	Nov 23 23:54
XRevan86	Although it's been two times now.	Nov 23 23:55
schestowitz	maybe.	Nov 24 00:06
schestowitz	Please spread this in the 'federation'	Nov 24 00:06
schestowitz	to make people aware	Nov 24 00:07
schestowitz	maybe they'll start pointing fingers at the people who banned me	Nov 24 00:07
schestowitz	and shadowbanned	Nov 24 00:07
schestowitz	and how ti came about	Nov 24 00:07
schestowitz	I cannot post there, I got banned	Nov 24 00:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933848958975336449	Nov 24 00:08
TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights	Nov 24 00:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lKklAwyGoM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 00:08
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schestowitz	skipped a chance to have free https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulled_wine today	Nov 24 00:12
schestowitz	as well...	Nov 24 00:12
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schestowitz	too late now	Nov 24 00:12
XRevan86	schestowitz: Posted the second link	Nov 24 00:21
XRevan86	Not enough people noticed the first one, hope the new one will get more attention from the right people.	Nov 24 00:23
XRevan86	I'm not too popular anywhere, too secretive to be interesting %).	Nov 24 00:24
XRevan86	schestowitz: https://loadaverage.org/conversation/9597791 the thread	Nov 24 00:33
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XRevan86	schestowitz: Some better people noticed it and reposted. It's out.	Nov 24 00:40
XRevan86	And I'm off to bed :)	Nov 24 00:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933849772280205312	Nov 24 00:54
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 23/11/2017: Lumina and Qt Quick	Nov 24 00:54
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/n996thYM5Q (techrights.org)	Nov 24 00:54
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*XRevan86 still hasn't.		Nov 24 01:04
XRevan86	schestowitz: It really spreads.	Nov 24 01:04
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XRevan86	schestowitz: Although mostly replies are from GNU social and not Mastodon.	Nov 24 01:33
XRevan86	I hope I didn't get myself banned there %).	Nov 24 01:34
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schestowitz	I saw this im prior years	Nov 24 07:23
schestowitz	sans the meme image	Nov 24 07:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933949700809613312	Nov 24 07:28
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Today in Techrights	Nov 24 07:28
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/lKklAwyGoM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 07:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933960318224650241	Nov 24 07:28
TweetTuxMachines	Oracle Adds Initial Support for Linux Kernel 4.14 LTS to	Nov 24 07:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933960448302567425	Nov 24 07:56
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Oracle Adds Initial Support for Linux Kernel 4.14 LTS to	Nov 24 07:56
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #VirtualBox	Nov 24 07:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933967600165511168	Nov 24 07:59
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Nov 24 07:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ftIaitoQRC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 07:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/933968170645409792	Nov 24 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Firefox "Breach Alerts", Uber Crack, and Intel	Nov 24 08:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/933969192713441280	Nov 24 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: Firefox "Breach Alerts", Uber Crack, and Intel	Nov 24 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Back Doors	Nov 24 08:35
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zoobab	so	Nov 24 09:21
zoobab	debate in UK parliament next week	Nov 24 09:21
zoobab	https://www.bristowsupc.com/latest-news/uk-house-of-commons-committee-to-consider-draft-upc-legislation-next-week/	Nov 24 09:21
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XRevan86	schestowitz: https://loadaverage.org/conversation/9597791 there's a lot of stuff here now.	Nov 24 12:30
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XRevan86	schestowitz: Not sure how to reply to some.	Nov 24 12:30
XRevan86	schestowitz: Mostly people don't like that you generalised the problem as "Mastodon" in general without explaining why.	Nov 24 12:36
oiaohm	XRevan86: so mastondon has a central system for sending out filtering rules?	Nov 24 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	@technologytales https://twitter.com/technologytales/status/934041852168327168	Nov 24 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	The latest Technology Tales Daily!	Nov 24 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GtKiQJtjYV (paper.li) Thanks to	Nov 24 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	@Computing_News @FreeBSDHelp @tuxmachines #iot #news	Nov 24 13:06
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XRevan86	oiaohm: Not really, but a lot of instances have cooperated on that.	Nov 24 13:07
oiaohm	XRevan86: I would have to check into hosting countries laws. https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/11-defences-and-exemptions/safe-harbour-scheme-internet-intermediaries	Nov 24 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alrc.gov.au \| Safe harbour scheme for internet intermediaries \| ALRC		Nov 24 13:14
oiaohm	XRevan86: if people are in Australia safe harbour requires talking reasonable steps to prevent against particular classes of issues.	Nov 24 13:15
XRevan86	oiaohm: As a proud citizen of the Russian Federation I'm having hard time understanding pleasing various country laws :)	Nov 24 13:16
XRevan86	because the country I'm in forbids even discussion of Internet blocking avoidance methods	Nov 24 13:17
XRevan86	Am I even allowed to mention T*r? I'm not sure.	Nov 24 13:17
oiaohm	XRevan86: this is always something that is not considered when creating federated system. The requirement to filter that different countries laws mandate.	Nov 24 13:19
oiaohm	XRevan86: and how those different regional filtering requirements will effect the complete system.	Nov 24 13:19
XRevan86	Yeah, especially because the sum of all laws is an insanely restrictive thing	Nov 24 13:19
oiaohm	Like remove, or take reasonable steps to remove, material that invades a person’s privacy, when given notice;<< This in Australian law makes sense when someone has posted private pictures and the like without permission.	Nov 24 13:20
XRevan86	oiaohm: I think the law enforcement should take the first friendly step when they want something	Nov 24 13:21
oiaohm	So against events breaching privacy people operating in Australia have to be able to set filtering rules and broadcast others in the network so they have meet their requirements.	Nov 24 13:22
XRevan86	moderators are not lawyers	Nov 24 13:22
oiaohm	XRevan86: with Australian esafety they contact you with documentation and issue and only turn unfriendly if you refuse. So they do attempt to ask nicely first.	Nov 24 13:23
XRevan86	oiaohm: So there's no need for censorship beforehard, right?	Nov 24 13:23
oiaohm	XRevan86: depends on want. Making sure sexual content is not put before minors to the best of your ability is required under the Australian legal system.	Nov 24 13:25
oiaohm	XRevan86: so there would be from Australian law some forms of censorship you need to be documenting as doing.	Nov 24 13:25
oiaohm	XRevan86: I only know this stuff absolute inside and out for Australia and I know	Nov 24 13:26
oiaohm	Australia is not the most strict here.	Nov 24 13:26
XRevan86	oiaohm: What can they do if neither I'm Australian and nor is the hosting?	Nov 24 13:27
XRevan86	The registry of forbidden websites?	Nov 24 13:27
XRevan86	Interpol? %)	Nov 24 13:27
cubexyz	no one will follow ridiculous laws	Nov 24 13:28
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Russia#Internet_blacklist	Nov 24 13:29
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XRevan86	I think the US now followed Russian glorious lead with the ban of Scihub	Nov 24 13:29
cubexyz	what's on the blacklist?	Nov 24 13:29
XRevan86	cubexyz: https://reestr.rublacklist.net/	Nov 24 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reestr.rublacklist.net \| Реестр запрещенных сайтов		Nov 24 13:30
oiaohm	cubexyz: https://esafety.gov.au/complaints-and-reporting/offensive-and-illegal-content-complaints/what-we-can-investigate << In Australia this stuff will be investigated,	Nov 24 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-esafety.gov.au \| What we can investigate \| Office of the eSafety Commissioner		Nov 24 13:31
oiaohm	XRevan86: that the thing if what you do is never put inside Australia hosting you don't need to obey Australian rules. This is where it gets tricky for federation. The hosting countries laws have to be applied.	Nov 24 13:32
oiaohm	XRevan86: and if you do federation across the wrong combination of countries you basically end up with the impossible.	Nov 24 13:32
oiaohm	XRevan86: to be correct I have to obey the Australian rules even if I buy server space on like aws usa or equal.	Nov 24 13:33
oiaohm	XRevan86: and if it hosted in the USA I have to obey USA rules as well. The reality of hosting the real world boarders still down right exist.	Nov 24 13:35
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cubexyz	oiaohm, I'll quote Oliver Twist:	Nov 24 17:50
cubexyz	"The Law is an ass"	Nov 24 17:51
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Oracle Adds Initial Support for Linux Kernel 4.14 LTS to	Nov 24 18:21
TweetTuxMachines	@AlejosAngel #VirtualBox	Nov 24 18:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/EusEOPM9yc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 18:21
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TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/wznpKqSf7S	Nov 24 18:22
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TweetTuxMachines	Rugged, octa-core hacker board has 2GB RAM	Nov 24 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/z2S6IgJcuY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 19:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934146364208009216	Nov 24 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	#KDevelop 5.2.1 released https://t.co/QiEEgi5Bf1	Nov 24 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 19:49
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TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/9Vr7YXNweN	Nov 24 19:57
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/9Vr7YXNweN'		Nov 24 19:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934149101930807296	Nov 24 20:01
TweetTuxMachines	Dell offers new Ubuntu certified range of workstations	Nov 24 20:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BvhWvDsqWu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Dell offers new Ubuntu certified range of workstations \| Tux Machines		Nov 24 20:01
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Dell offers new Ubuntu certified range of workstations...'		Nov 24 20:01
*TweetTuxMachines @Remonto1re favourited 'Dell offers new Ubuntu certified range of workstations...'		Nov 24 20:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934150331545595905	Nov 24 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	Photon Could Be Your New Favorite Container OS	Nov 24 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WX4fLGton3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:04
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 24 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Photon Could Be Your New Favorite Container OS \| Tux Machines		Nov 24 20:04
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MinceR	no, it couldn't	Nov 24 20:05
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cubexyz	what, it's got systemd in it? :)	Nov 24 20:06
MinceR	yup	Nov 24 20:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/934150830516731904	Nov 24 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Photon Could Be Your New Favorite Container OS	Nov 24 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/WX4fLGton3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:19
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MinceR	still couldn't	Nov 24 20:20
MinceR	>still trying to sell a massive backdoor as a "lightweight" OS	Nov 24 20:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934155687726387202	Nov 24 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	Games Leftovers	Nov 24 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gojZ1G2BYJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934156099976093701	Nov 24 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	Microsoft Bullying and Monkey Business in Munich	Nov 24 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bCj7G0q25M (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:26
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*TweetTuxMachines @reddish2 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft Bullying and Monkey Business in Munich ...'		Nov 24 20:26
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*TweetTuxMachines @reddish2 favourited 'Microsoft Bullying and Monkey Business in Munich ...'		Nov 24 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934156480965734401	Nov 24 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	Programming/Development: #Django and Google India	Nov 24 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/It3oWLZMG9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934157069401382912	Nov 24 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	Unity 7 Hoping To Become An Official Flavor For Ubuntu	Nov 24 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	18.04 LTS	Nov 24 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9KIIqIrc2l (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Unity 7 Hoping To Become An Official Flavor For Ubuntu 18.04 LTS \| Tux Machines		Nov 24 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/934157777714458625	Nov 24 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Microsoft Bullying and Monkey Business in Munich	Nov 24 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/bCj7G0q25M (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/934158121500598272	Nov 24 20:36
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Games Leftovers	Nov 24 20:36
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/gojZ1G2BYJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/934158780186726400	Nov 24 20:38
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Programming/Development: #Django and Google India	Nov 24 20:38
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/It3oWLZMG9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934159315396591616	Nov 24 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel: Linux 4.15, TLDR, and Linus Torvalds' Latest Rant	Nov 24 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fCDB2Mu6dV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kernel: Linux 4.15, TLDR, and Linus Torvalds' Latest Rant \| Tux Machines		Nov 24 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/934159713658462209	Nov 24 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Unity 7 Hoping To Become An Official Flavor For Ubuntu	Nov 24 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz 18.04 LTS	Nov 24 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9KIIqIrc2l (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934160097504317445	Nov 24 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	Graphics: Mesa 17.2.6 RC, AMDGPU, and Vulkan	Nov 24 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dTQrmFYhez (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Graphics: Mesa 17.2.6 RC, AMDGPU, and Vulkan \| Tux Machines		Nov 24 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934161565326233601	Nov 24 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Necurs, Uber, and Intel ME	Nov 24 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/d3eJRfNEyA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/934162138091917313	Nov 24 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Kernel: Linux 4.15, TLDR, and Linus Torvalds' Latest Rant	Nov 24 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/fCDB2Mu6dV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 20:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@verfassungklage https://twitter.com/verfassungklage/status/934162289263071233	Nov 24 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	Tweet von Tux Machines (@tuxmachines) um 24. Nov., 21:47	Nov 24 20:54
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TweetTuxMachines	Security: Necurs, Uber, and Intel ME ...	Nov 24 20:54
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TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YvfKFU1OvP (twitter.com)	Nov 24 20:54
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TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/In6o0fw8jM	Nov 24 20:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.technology \| Mastodon for Tech Folks		Nov 24 20:54
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Graphics: Mesa 17.2.6 RC, AMDGPU, and Vulkan ...'		Nov 24 20:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/934164275488280576	Nov 24 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: Necurs, Uber, and Intel ME	Nov 24 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/d3eJRfNEyA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 21:18
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 24 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934169230005678080	Nov 24 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.14.2, 4.13.16, 4.9.65, 4.4.101, 4.4.102, and	Nov 24 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	3.18.84	Nov 24 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GKHhlr9G5Z (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 21:18
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 24 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 4.14.2, 4.13.16, 4.9.65, 4.4.101, 4.4.102, and 3.18.84 \| Tux Machines		Nov 24 21:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/934169391654109184	Nov 24 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux 4.14.2, 4.13.16, 4.9.65, 4.4.101, 4.4.102, and	Nov 24 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz 3.18.84	Nov 24 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GKHhlr9G5Z (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 21:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934174227346927617	Nov 24 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Nov 24 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/D1jd7WCIYA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 24 21:38
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 24 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Nov 24 21:38
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/D1jd7WCIYA...'		Nov 24 21:39
DaemonFC	Already have 4.14.2.	Nov 24 21:39
DaemonFC	Ukuu is pretty convenient.	Nov 24 21:39
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XRevan86	cubexyz: Is cubelog's log publicly available? :)	Nov 24 22:17
oiaohm	cubexyz: law is a ass. But when it comes to doing federation cross countries its very easy to end up herding cats problems. Where each countries law is the most uncooperative cat you have ever met yet some how you have to get them into one place.	Nov 24 22:44
MinceR	that's an insult to cats	Nov 24 22:47
oiaohm	MinceR: I really don't have a better example creature of the behaviour. Ass/donkeys hurd. Multi country law issue is they are not hurding creatures..	Nov 24 22:48
MinceR	humans	Nov 24 22:48
XRevan86	http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/b7/b752506a715019c08f0db27f2aeffe589d74c894aa5b28ad4e9624ea5e26b783.jpg	Nov 24 22:49
XRevan86	MinceR: I fixed the world for you :)	Nov 24 22:49
oiaohm	MinceR: laws are less hurding than humans naturally are. Mostly due to the nightmare of humans leaving legacy bits in the law then one day starting to enforce it. Its like the recent Australian government and people who are dual citizen having to be kicked out of office.	Nov 24 22:51
DaemonFC	https://thenextweb.com/dd/2017/11/24/tldr-linux-man-pages-always/	Nov 24 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com \| TLDR is what Linux man pages always should have been		Nov 24 22:51
XRevan86	DaemonFC: And learnxinyminutes.com is what most programming languages guides should be :)	Nov 24 22:52
MinceR	XRevan86: https://i.pinimg.com/236x/65/d8/80/65d880eff6e95cbf8c6ef2fc590627ea.jpg	Nov 24 22:52
oiaohm	man command standard for manual. So there was the idea it should be long. It was found not long enough so someone made info now tldr says shorter. Nothing like now have to maintain the documentation 3 times+	Nov 24 22:53
XRevan86	MinceR: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/838/995/ee4.jpg	Nov 24 22:53
XRevan86	Babylon 5 pilot's makeup of Londo is inferior, yeah.	Nov 24 22:54
MinceR	weird	Nov 24 22:55
MinceR	usually pilots get a lot of extra budget	Nov 24 22:56
XRevan86	MinceR: Maybe they overdid it :)	Nov 24 22:56
XRevan86	it's hard to tell for me which one is cheaper	Nov 24 22:56
MinceR	:>	Nov 24 22:56
*XRevan86 when looking for an image from the picture stumbled across http://cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/Aliencollage.jpeg		Nov 24 22:59
XRevan86	Now I see why the previous one was made. I only picked it because I like Babylon 5 a lot :).	Nov 24 23:00
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MinceR	:)	Nov 24 23:04
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/bgOrX	Nov 24 23:20
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DaemonFC	https://www.humblebundle.com/books/java-books	Nov 25 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.humblebundle.com \| Humble Book Bundle: Java by O'Reilly (pay what you want and help charity)		Nov 25 00:34
DaemonFC	MinceR, John was angry yesterday that Windows 10 shut down his game and forced an OS update.	Nov 25 00:45
MinceR	lol	Nov 25 00:45
DaemonFC	He said "You know how it is.". I said, "No, actually, my computer only installs updates that I want and it only reboots when I tell it to.".	Nov 25 00:45
MinceR	maybe he should take his PC back from microsoft	Nov 25 00:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934263442378252289	Nov 25 03:33
TweetTuxMachines	#Xubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark - The winter is ... meh	Nov 25 03:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nqlEhgL0c5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 25 03:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Xubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark - The winter is ... meh \| Tux Machines		Nov 25 03:33
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DaemonFC	Hundreds of thousands of fake comments urging the FCC to repeal its Net Neutrality rules have been filed in the Public Comments section on their website, but now Donald Trump's FCC administrator, Verizon lobbyist Ajit Pai, is trying to block investigations into who submitted them. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/11/22/official-says-hes-been-stymied-by-the-fcc-in-investigation-of-fake-net-neutrality	Nov 25 03:33
DaemonFC	-foes/?undefined&utm_term=.b2f3d3bb056b&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1	Nov 25 03:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com \| Investigation of fake net neutrality foes has been stymied by the FCC, New York AG Eric Scheiderman says - The Washington Post		Nov 25 03:33
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Xubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark - The winter is...'		Nov 25 03:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934264629244637184	Nov 25 03:37
TweetTuxMachines	KDE: Introduction to Kdenlive, Qt 3D Aspect, Mini Bug	Nov 25 03:37
TweetTuxMachines	Squashing Day	Nov 25 03:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fJYnMhtLNn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 25 03:37
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 25 03:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE: Introduction to Kdenlive, Qt 3D Aspect, Mini Bug Squashing Day \| Tux Machines		Nov 25 03:37
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE: Introduction to Kdenlive, Qt 3D Aspect, Mini...'		Nov 25 03:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934266556342784005	Nov 25 03:45
TweetTuxMachines	Wine 2.22 Release and More	Nov 25 03:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TUMsa41lzF (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 25 03:45
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 25 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Wine 2.22 Release and More \| Tux Machines		Nov 25 03:45
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Wine 2.22 Release and More https://t.co/TUMsa41lzF...'		Nov 25 03:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934267274013413377	Nov 25 03:48
TweetTuxMachines	Games: SuperTuxKart, Tannenberg, Observer	Nov 25 03:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ImtjlAWNyz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 25 03:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Games: SuperTuxKart, Tannenberg, Observer \| Tux Machines		Nov 25 03:48
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: SuperTuxKart, Tannenberg, Observer https://t.co/ImtjlAWNyz...'		Nov 25 03:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934269509409693696	Nov 25 03:57
TweetTuxMachines	First R#enesas based Raspberry Pi clone runs Linux	Nov 25 03:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PyOZUWXzIC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 25 03:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/934269722228609024	Nov 25 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by First R#enesas based Raspberry Pi clone runs Linux	Nov 25 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/PyOZUWXzIC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 25 04:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934278945268170752	Nov 25 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	Mozilla Firefox Quantum	Nov 25 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8oC7rIuiIL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 25 04:34
TweetTuxMachines		Nov 25 04:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla Firefox Quantum \| Tux Machines		Nov 25 04:34
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Mozilla Firefox Quantum https://t.co/8oC7rIuiIL...'		Nov 25 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934279538384801792	Nov 25 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	Tizen News	Nov 25 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fTnp1JFiLR (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 25 04:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tizen News \| Tux Machines		Nov 25 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934280056846934016	Nov 25 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Nov 25 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hFodj4WlVU (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 25 04:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Nov 25 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934281000225591296	Nov 25 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	Software: VirtualBox, TeX Live Cockpit, Mailspring, Qt,	Nov 25 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	Projects, and Maintainers	Nov 25 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/anJ3uy2roy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 25 04:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Software: VirtualBox, TeX Live Cockpit, Mailspring, Qt, Projects, and Maintainers \| Tux Machines		Nov 25 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934281221382819840	Nov 25 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Nov 25 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OCrR3zIMhT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Nov 25 04:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/934282117051224064	Nov 25 04:58
TweetTuxMachines	Links 24/11/2017: Mesa 17.2.6 RC, KDevelop 5.2.1	Nov 25 04:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/g0Ae7EHiyc (techrights.org)	Nov 25 04:58
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schestowitz	DaemonFC: your FCC will screw the Net workdwide	Nov 25 05:02
schestowitz	they'll copy it here	Nov 25 05:02
schestowitz	US and standards setter	Nov 25 05:02
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cubexyz	XRevan86, the "law is an ass" comes from Oliver Twist	Nov 25 15:50
cubexyz	in court Mr Bumble is told "...the law supposes that your wife acts under your direction"	Nov 25 15:51
cubexyz	then Bumble says:	Nov 25 15:51
cubexyz	"If the law supposes that... the law is an ass... an idiot" :)	Nov 25 15:51
XRevan86	cubexyz: So, the law is from DNC? :)	Nov 25 15:51
cubexyz	and yes, cubelog is public if you can find the link	Nov 25 15:52
XRevan86	A GOP law is an elephant then	Nov 25 15:52
cubexyz	I think most if not all politicians are grifters	Nov 25 15:53
cubexyz	so I don't think it matters if it's republican or democrat	Nov 25 15:53
XRevan86	cubexyz: It's not like an elephant as a metaphor for law is better than an ass :)	Nov 25 15:54
cubexyz	it's the British ass in this case... so it's a donkey	Nov 25 15:55
XRevan86	cubexyz: That's why I referenced DNC and GOP :)	Nov 25 15:55
cubexyz	so the phrase "the law is an ass" means a stupidly rigid application of the law	Nov 25 15:56
XRevan86	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/DemocraticLogo.svg 'cause this	Nov 25 15:56
cubexyz	e.g. obstinant like a donkey	Nov 25 15:56
cubexyz	er, obstinate	Nov 25 15:57
cubexyz	like the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, or even copyright in general	Nov 25 15:58
cubexyz	I thought banning all acts of circumvention was stupid	Nov 25 16:07
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TweetTuxMachines	Which Linux Distribution Boots The Fastest? An 11-Way	Nov 25 17:31
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oiaohm	cubexyz: https://www.whitecase.com/publications/article/new-dmca-exemption-allows-consumers-hack-their-own-vehicles yes I agree particularly when you consider that banning circumvention end up having to create exception after exception.	Nov 25 17:36
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cubexyz	ok... an example for me would be PVRs	Nov 25 17:52
cubexyz	so let's say I want to record a tv broadcast either from antenna or fiber or satellite	Nov 25 17:53
cubexyz	around here satellite tv uses nagravision 3	Nov 25 17:53
oiaohm	cubexyz: http://www.videoconferencegear.com/hdmi-to-usb-3-0-converter-dongle-by-magewell/ this is the thing once you have a box putting on hdmi and you have chip that acts as a camera something fun happens.	Nov 25 18:19
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oiaohm	cubexyz: I remember when it came up when the idea of DCMA was first put forwards how would libraries and that back up there works and someone suggested tripod and camera and point at screen.	Nov 25 18:20
oiaohm	cubexyz: silicon vendors have gone to the next level. https://auvidea.com/b101-hdmi-to-csi-2-bridge-15-pin-fpc/	Nov 25 18:22
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oiaohm	cubexyz: being able to record that way has not in fact circumvented the protection.	Nov 25 18:23
cubexyz	ha	Nov 25 18:27
cubexyz	I think there's also a card that records the PC's video	Nov 25 18:28
cubexyz	gamers use them to record stuff	Nov 25 18:28
oiaohm	cubexyz: yep there are used at conferences. And quite a few of them support full hdmi include the hdmi protection bits.	Nov 25 18:29
oiaohm	cubexyz: so fairly much the analog hole to DRM is alive and well.	Nov 25 18:29
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