IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: July 29th, 2018 – August 4th, 2018

TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023336849434202115	Jul 29 00:16
TweetTuxMachines	Graphics: Mesa 18.1.5, Wayland 1.16, Weston 5.0 (Betas),	Jul 29 00:16
TweetTuxMachines	ETC2	Jul 29 00:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/e2ublGylAV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 00:16
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*TweetTuxMachines @sopanx favourited 'Future Lubuntu Releases Won't Focus on Old PCs,...'		Jul 29 00:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/sopanx/status/1023346561072287744	Jul 29 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Future Lubuntu Releases Won't Focus on Old PCs, Will	Jul 29 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	@sopanx Offer a Modular Linux OS https://t.co/pfEtSHzZoa	Jul 29 00:17
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 00:17
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*TweetTuxMachines @sopanx favourited 'GNOME 3.30 Will Bring a Better Flatpak Experience...'		Jul 29 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/sopanx/status/1023346673911615489	Jul 29 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by GNOME 3.30 Will Bring a Better Flatpak Experience to the	Jul 29 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	@sopanx Nautilus File Manager https://t.co/IvS1PvqgLZ	Jul 29 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 00:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME 3.30 Will Bring a Better Flatpak Experience to the Nautilus File Manager \| Tux Machines		Jul 29 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023347360309624833	Jul 29 00:30
TweetTuxMachines	RIP, Gerv Markham	Jul 29 00:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/92QRXGB8Zg (www.tuxmachines.org) #mozilla	Jul 29 00:30
TweetTuxMachines	#firefox	Jul 29 00:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023349934085611520	Jul 29 00:32
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel: AMDKFD and Bootlin	Jul 29 00:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FRwSdhmDw8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 00:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023350409325363205	Jul 29 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	Games: #ByteDriver and Steam Chat	Jul 29 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JwCQIvvPrY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 01:24
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*TweetTuxMachines @Larsa_W favourited 'Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Now Available with...'		Jul 29 02:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/scas/status/1023398748838354944	Jul 29 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Future Lubuntu Releases Won't Focus on Old PCs, Will	Jul 29 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	@scas Offer a Modular Linux OS https://t.co/pfEtSHzZoa	Jul 29 03:54
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 03:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Septor_Linux/status/1023452293314871297	Jul 29 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Debian: DebCamp, DebConf and More	Jul 29 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	@Septor_Linux https://t.co/dTPmubEvC7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Debian: DebCamp, DebConf and More \| Tux Machines		Jul 29 07:32
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*TweetTuxMachines @panaman67 favourited 'Future Lubuntu Releases Won't Focus on Old PCs,...'		Jul 29 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023472007319625728	Jul 29 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	Stable kernels 4.17.11, 4.14.59, 4.9.116, 4.4.145 and	Jul 29 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	3.18.117 https://t.co/I1cLJ1JoeM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Stable kernels 4.17.11, 4.14.59, 4.9.116, 4.4.145 and 3.18.117 \| Tux Machines		Jul 29 08:55
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*TweetTuxMachines @jpbeneke favourited 'GNOME 3.30 Will Bring a Better Flatpak Experience...'		Jul 29 09:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023482916788154369	Jul 29 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/BJbT5kiEqY	Jul 29 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 29 09:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023509822145261568	Jul 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat Leftovers	Jul 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1fjuhbUDv8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 11:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023511334623870976	Jul 29 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	Google: The Data Transfer Project, Fuchsia, Cirq, Chrome	Jul 29 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	69	Jul 29 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hf8tOt6y7h (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 11:14
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google: The Data Transfer Project, Fuchsia, Cirq, Chrome 69 \| Tux Machines		Jul 29 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023511974586531841	Jul 29 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	Microsoft: Windows Ransom, EEE, War on GNU/Linux and	Jul 29 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	Putting PowerShell (with .NET) on GNU/Linux	Jul 29 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/16GkxA7Ctp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 11:17
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Microsoft: Windows Ransom, EEE, War on GNU/Linux and Putting PowerShell (with .NET) on GNU/Linux \| Tux Machines		Jul 29 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023512758812377088	Jul 29 11:19
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME: Nautilus 3.30 and Another GUADEC Report	Jul 29 11:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NbTvBuQqyx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 11:19
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME: Nautilus 3.30 and Another GUADEC Report \| Tux Machines		Jul 29 11:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023513160458948608	Jul 29 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	#3DPrinting and U-M Freedom Hacking	Jul 29 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RugC57uIon (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 11:20
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 3-D Printing and U-M Freedom Hacking \| Tux Machines		Jul 29 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023513443146579968	Jul 29 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux Leftovers	Jul 29 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/epE0Ad6d8o (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Jul 29 11:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNU/Linux Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 29 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023514964525572096	Jul 29 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	Links 29/7/2018: Mesa 18.1.5, DebConf18 Starts,	Jul 29 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	Remembering Gerv Markham https://t.co/pzi2rcCNMz	Jul 29 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jul 29 11:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 11:26
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*TweetTuxMachines @frankjoreyes favourited 'Microsoft: Windows Ransom, EEE, War on GNU/Linux and...'		Jul 29 11:59
schestowitz	"Pls report without mentioning me as a source, I also reported to SUEPO of which I'm a member, so there could be different sources. - Thanks a lot for taking note."	Jul 29 12:01
schestowitz	Source.... EPO	Jul 29 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1023523458611900416	Jul 29 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 29/7/2018: Mesa 18.1.5, DebConf18 Starts,	Jul 29 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Remembering Gerv Markham https://t.co/pzi2rcCNMz	Jul 29 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jul 29 12:02
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 12:02
*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 29/7/2018: Mesa 18.1.5, DebConf18 Starts, Remembering Gerv...'		Jul 29 12:17
*TweetTuxMachines @RDAModular favourited '#3DPrinting and U-M Freedom Hacking https://t.co/RugC57uIon...'		Jul 29 12:17
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18041452	Jul 29 13:39
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18041444	Jul 29 14:10
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18041329	Jul 29 14:34
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*TweetTuxMachines @tecknocrat favourited 'Links 29/7/2018: Mesa 18.1.5, DebConf18 Starts, Remembering Gerv...'		Jul 29 14:54
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18040740	Jul 29 14:55
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/1804138	Jul 29 15:28
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XRevan86	MinceR: I feel dirty now. Thanks.	Jul 29 15:37
MinceR	:)	Jul 29 15:38
schestowitz	the race thing?	Jul 29 15:45
schestowitz	there are idiots like these in each group	Jul 29 15:45
schestowitz	their proportion, however, varies	Jul 29 15:45
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/1804132	Jul 29 16:18
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18041242	Jul 29 16:40
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XRevan86	racial purity is a degenerative concept, quite literally	Jul 29 16:46
XRevan86	Maybe degeneratist is a good term for idiots like thes.	Jul 29 16:47
MinceR	indeed	Jul 29 16:47
MinceR	well, we already have a term for them: racist	Jul 29 16:47
XRevan86	these	Jul 29 16:47
XRevan86	MinceR: touché	Jul 29 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/1023567474166382592	Jul 29 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 29/7/2018: Mesa 18.1.5, DebConf18 Starts,	Jul 29 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tecknocrat Remembering Gerv Markham https://t.co/pzi2rcCNMz	Jul 29 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jul 29 17:03
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18040434	Jul 29 17:07
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schestowitz	MinceR: oh, no... more rape joke	Jul 29 17:18
schestowitz	like the hanging thing	Jul 29 17:18
schestowitz	very dark humour	Jul 29 17:19
schestowitz	Duterte likes rape jokes	Jul 29 17:19
MinceR	:)	Jul 29 17:24
MinceR	even a broken clock can be right twice a day	Jul 29 17:24
MinceR	also, hitler ate sugar	Jul 29 17:24
XRevan86	I heard Hitler liked wearing clothes.	Jul 29 17:25
schestowitz	In Soviet Russia, clothes loved wearing Hitler	Jul 29 17:29
XRevan86	smartclothes	Jul 29 17:31
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18041116	Jul 29 17:40
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XRevan86	MinceR: Sounds fake.	Jul 29 17:44
schestowitz	haha, I guess some would find that "offensive"	Jul 29 17:44
schestowitz	Because to them it's not a joke	Jul 29 17:44
schestowitz	XRevan86: "The Onion"	Jul 29 17:45
MinceR	some make an effort to find everything offensive	Jul 29 17:45
XRevan86	schestowitz: Ah	Jul 29 17:45
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DaemonFC[m]	https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37787019_1694718540632437_3235908517781045248_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=11e7af384b2947525be0b854c31d1473&oe=5C04D682	Jul 29 18:15
DaemonFC[m]	I should do what that guy in Canada did. Legally change my gender to female to save money on car insurance.	Jul 29 18:17
DaemonFC[m]	Women have complained loudly that they were paying more for health insurance before the ACA.	Jul 29 18:21
DaemonFC[m]	I don't see any of them arguing for "fairness" in car insurance premiums.	Jul 29 18:21
XRevan86	DaemonFC[m]: It's easier to see the problem when you're affected by it.	Jul 29 18:23
MinceR	lol @ photo	Jul 29 18:25
schestowitz	the above?	Jul 29 18:52
schestowitz	Soul?	Jul 29 18:52
schestowitz	Kia?	Jul 29 18:52
schestowitz	Seoul?	Jul 29 18:52
schestowitz	Kia ia Korean	Jul 29 18:55
schestowitz	is Soul the model name?	Jul 29 18:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023645287284436992	Jul 29 20:05
TweetTuxMachines	Plasma 5.13.3, Applications 18.04.3 and Frameworks 5.48.0	Jul 29 20:05
TweetTuxMachines	by KDE now available to all Chakra users	Jul 29 20:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ZcU9nkyBOV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 20:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Plasma 5.13.3, Applications 18.04.3 and Frameworks 5.48.0 by KDE now available to all Chakra users \| Tux Machines		Jul 29 20:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023645580323635200	Jul 29 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/ZCfmySraUY	Jul 29 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 20:24
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MinceR	yes	Jul 29 20:30
MinceR	and yes	Jul 29 20:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023650458865463296	Jul 29 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights	Jul 29 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/q8qnNp48kE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 20:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023656097327009798	Jul 29 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	#EasySSH is your next favorite GUI SSH client	Jul 29 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jrscBzubS6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| EasySSH is your next favorite GUI SSH client \| Tux Machines		Jul 29 20:49
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/1804118	Jul 29 20:49
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MinceR	> GUI SSH client	Jul 29 20:49
MinceR	y tho	Jul 29 20:49
XRevan86	> your next favourite GUI SSH client	Jul 29 20:51
XRevan86	but I never had a first favourite GUI SSH client	Jul 29 20:51
XRevan86	or a second	Jul 29 20:51
MinceR	:>	Jul 29 20:51
XRevan86	And the weird thing, it's for GNU/Linux	Jul 29 20:57
XRevan86	what's the point?	Jul 29 20:57
MinceR	i guess it's for people who have CLI-phobia but are in denial about it	Jul 29 20:57
XRevan86	We have nice terminal emulators here, we can just use openssh-client from there, conviniently and nicely	Jul 29 20:58
XRevan86	Yo dawg, I heard you have CLI-phobia, so I've made a GUI client that effectively connects you to a remote CLI terminal	Jul 29 20:58
*TweetTuxMachines @marianico123 favourited '#EasySSH is your next favorite GUI SSH client...'		Jul 29 20:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023659141548699650	Jul 29 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	UniverCity, an isometric university management game	Jul 29 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	arrives in Early Access next month, developed on Linux	Jul 29 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/74RomqMTtO (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| UniverCity, an isometric university management game arrives in Early Access next month, developed on Linux \| Tux Machines		Jul 29 21:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1023659576279871493	Jul 29 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Today in Techrights	Jul 29 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/q8qnNp48kE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 21:11
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 21:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023662254712147968	Jul 29 21:23
TweetTuxMachines	#Helios4 Arm-Based Open Source NAS SBC For Linux/FreeBSD	Jul 29 21:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QQdsr3qNTn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 21:23
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 21:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023665410330243072	Jul 29 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	10 GNU/Linux Video Editing Apps in #AppImage	Jul 29 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dApDKNuFwu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 21:24
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/1804112	Jul 29 21:25
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*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '10 GNU/Linux Video Editing Apps in #AppImage https://t.co/dApDKNuFwu...'		Jul 29 21:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023665871099711490	Jul 29 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Jul 29 21:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rk8l1utf28 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 21:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023666828491534337	Jul 29 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	#Linux 4.18 Lands Random Patch To Fix Slow Boot Times For	Jul 29 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	Some #Systemd -Based Boxes	Jul 29 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SxBPr8MtL9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 21:36
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 4.18 Lands Random Patch To Fix Slow Boot Times For Some Systemd-Based Boxes \| Tux Machines		Jul 29 21:36
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MinceR	lol	Jul 29 21:37
MinceR	muh boot times	Jul 29 21:37
schestowitz	yeah	Jul 29 21:38
schestowitz	i was gonna paste the url here	Jul 29 21:39
schestowitz	but thought it would come through tux anyway and you'd see it	Jul 29 21:39
MinceR	:)	Jul 29 21:39
XRevan86	I wonder how slow	Jul 29 21:39
schestowitz	mine is super slow	Jul 29 21:39
XRevan86	what gets entropy at boot time in Fedora anyway?	Jul 29 21:39
schestowitz	last I booted was last year	Jul 29 21:39
schestowitz	takes like 5 mins to ready desktop	Jul 29 21:39
schestowitz	my laptop has become a joke with all this bloat	Jul 29 21:40
schestowitz	it used to work much better	Jul 29 21:40
XRevan86	Used to be around 50 seconds with a super-slow laptop HDD for me	Jul 29 21:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023668606125662208	Jul 29 21:41
TweetTuxMachines	KDE: Dolphin and openQA, Slackware Updates and	Jul 29 21:41
TweetTuxMachines	Usability/Productivity Roundup	Jul 29 21:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7lDcaYieMb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 21:41
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 21:41
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XRevan86	With an SSD it's around 6 seconds	Jul 29 21:41
schestowitz	maybe some modern crap	Jul 29 21:42
schestowitz	but it didn't adapt well for old machines I guess	Jul 29 21:42
XRevan86	since it's about entropy, VMs are naturally the most affected	Jul 29 21:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023669616063774721	Jul 29 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	Graphics: Vulkan and Mesa	Jul 29 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hN9ykBSrOp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 21:43
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 21:43
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*XRevan86 glanced over the bugreport		Jul 29 21:45
XRevan86	apparently the issue is in cloud-init-local.service	Jul 29 21:45
XRevan86	https://launchpad.net/cloud-init this thing?	Jul 29 21:45
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XRevan86	schestowitz: Whatever's been affecting you is probably not what this fixes.	Jul 29 21:46
XRevan86	schestowitz: Have you tried running "systemd-analyze blame"? Or better yet, "systemd-analyze plot > boot.svg"	Jul 29 21:47
XRevan86	plot shows information about how long it took to start every service	Jul 29 21:48
XRevan86	schestowitz: I'm assuming you have systemd there.	Jul 29 21:51
XRevan86	and Fedora probably	Jul 29 21:51
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18040226	Jul 29 21:56
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XRevan86	A cat and a printer instruction manual. Okay.	Jul 29 21:57
MinceR	looks more like test pages	Jul 29 21:57
XRevan86	> Use the Printer Wireless without a Router	Jul 29 21:58
XRevan86	At least that one is from a manual.	Jul 29 21:58
XRevan86	I can almost see the serial number	Jul 29 21:59
schestowitz	XRevan86: yes, that's what killed it	Jul 29 22:00
schestowitz	worked ok before that	Jul 29 22:00
XRevan86	schestowitz: So… systemd-analyze plot ? :)	Jul 29 22:00
schestowitz	not sure that alone is the culprit, but the same thing happened to wife's laptop	Jul 29 22:00
schestowitz	now she hates it	Jul 29 22:00
schestowitz	2gb of ram	Jul 29 22:00
XRevan86	"systemd-analyze plot > boot.svg" can really help	Jul 29 22:01
XRevan86	then just nomacs / eog / xviewer / gwenview boot.svg	Jul 29 22:01
XRevan86	and see what is taking so long	Jul 29 22:02
XRevan86	I probably advised that already years ago though %)	Jul 29 22:04
XRevan86	I vaguely remember	Jul 29 22:04
cubexyz	on may 12th, 2004 I installed fc1 :)	Jul 29 22:04
cubexyz	anyway if there's systemd probs then slackware is a good alternative	Jul 29 22:05
XRevan86	To establish that, first one needs to see the start-up report…	Jul 29 22:05
XRevan86	for all I know it could be avahi or samba or something	Jul 29 22:06
cubexyz	I did try openbsd on a few machines and it was a bit disappointing, especially on the hp nx9030	Jul 29 22:06
cubexyz	darkstar was actually my first linux, and that was a slackware derivative	Jul 29 22:07
MinceR	funtoo is even better	Jul 29 22:08
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18041042	Jul 29 22:18
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XRevan86	There are around 315 000 000 people in the US	Jul 29 22:21
XRevan86	so about 20% of them are dense	Jul 29 22:22
schestowitz	see my remark online	Jul 29 22:22
MinceR	more of them are, just not all of them exhibit it in this particular way	Jul 29 22:22
MinceR	we're online :>	Jul 29 22:22
schestowitz	trump got about 70ml votes	Jul 29 22:22
schestowitz	so 17 million cretins can swing a lot vote-wise	Jul 29 22:23
XRevan86	This is lower than the classical Internet estimate	Jul 29 22:23
XRevan86	that states that 95% of the population are idiots	Jul 29 22:23
schestowitz	online as in social control media	Jul 29 22:23
XRevan86	any population	Jul 29 22:23
schestowitz	depends where one sets the threshold	Jul 29 22:23
XRevan86	including every possible subgroup	Jul 29 22:23
schestowitz	many people here vote Tories	Jul 29 22:23
schestowitz	many people here aren't too bright, either	Jul 29 22:24
schestowitz	many countries vote for demagogue based on xenophobic rhetoric	Jul 29 22:24
MinceR	or at least voted in their last free elections	Jul 29 22:24
MinceR	e.g. hungary	Jul 29 22:24
schestowitz	Orban	Jul 29 22:25
schestowitz	he win easily	Jul 29 22:25
schestowitz	just mention refugees, "Soros" etc.	Jul 29 22:25
schestowitz	The brexit operandi	Jul 29 22:25
MinceR	i mean in 2010	Jul 29 22:25
MinceR	who knows who's popular now	Jul 29 22:25
schestowitz	didn't work in Germany, afd is still very small there	Jul 29 22:25
MinceR	germany is going to shit	Jul 29 22:25
schestowitz	my dad told me what they say in hamburg	Jul 29 22:26
schestowitz	there's anger over the refugees	Jul 29 22:26
schestowitz	but many still vote cs	Jul 29 22:26
MinceR	https://www.thelocal.de/20180425/crosses-to-be-mandatory-in-all-public-offices-in-bavaria	Jul 29 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelocal.de \| Crosses must be mounted in all state buildings, Bavaria orders - The Local		Jul 29 22:26
MinceR	https://www.dailysabah.com/europe/2018/03/28/germanys-bavaria-moves-to-expand-spying-authority-of-police	Jul 29 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailysabah.com \| Germany’s Bavaria moves to expand spying authority of police - Daily Sabah		Jul 29 22:26
XRevan86	the christian democrat… people?	Jul 29 22:26
MinceR	the christian fundamentalist union	Jul 29 22:26
MinceR	leaders of the EPP	Jul 29 22:27
MinceR	destroyers of the EU	Jul 29 22:27
XRevan86	What weird times we live in	Jul 29 22:27
XRevan86	everywhere I look things are just peachy	Jul 29 22:27
MinceR	https://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/germany-proposed-amendment-to-the-criminal-code-concerning-advertising-services-for-abortion/	Jul 29 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.loc.gov \| Germany: Proposed Amendment to the Criminal Code Concerning Advertising Services for Abortion \| Global Legal Monitor		Jul 29 22:29
MinceR	notice the CFU reaction	Jul 29 22:30
schestowitz	"F" LOL	Jul 29 22:31
schestowitz	Fundamentalist?	Jul 29 22:31
MinceR	yes	Jul 29 22:31
schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Social_Union_in_Bavaria	Jul 29 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Christian Social Union in Bavaria - Wikipedia		Jul 29 22:32
schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU	Jul 29 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| CDU/CSU - Wikipedia		Jul 29 22:32
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/EsU1qBt.png	Jul 29 22:32
MinceR	notice all the black	Jul 29 22:32
XRevan86	Who are Social Democrats of Germany?	Jul 29 22:34
XRevan86	> The SPD has governed at the federal level in Germany as part of a grand coalition with the CDU and the Christian Social Union (CSU) since December 2013	Jul 29 22:36
XRevan86	ok	Jul 29 22:36
schestowitz	congrats, you kiled my browser	Jul 29 22:36
XRevan86	Mine handled it well :3	Jul 29 22:36
schestowitz	and moved thunderbird to swap, it takes 5 minutes to start it up again	Jul 29 22:36
schestowitz	wth is this page? svg? huge image? js?	Jul 29 22:36
XRevan86	schestowitz: A PNG, 8497x9458	Jul 29 22:36
XRevan86	really-really big	Jul 29 22:37
schestowitz	bloody hell	Jul 29 22:37
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/120331103	Jul 29 22:37
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schestowitz	that's like 100 images	Jul 29 22:37
XRevan86	Now I know Firefox 61 handles these things well :)	Jul 29 22:37
schestowitz	of 1000 squared	Jul 29 22:37
MinceR	strange, palemoon didn't have problems with it here	Jul 29 22:38
XRevan86	a few years ago that wasn't the case	Jul 29 22:38
schestowitz	next time warn me	Jul 29 22:38
MinceR	except for the nearest pixel scaling algorithm	Jul 29 22:38
schestowitz	I don't use the Big Browsers	Jul 29 22:38
MinceR	i'm moving to qutebrowser	Jul 29 22:38
MinceR	though i'll probably have to install funtoo on the laptop to make it happen	Jul 29 22:38
MinceR	as qt5 won't build on slackware	Jul 29 22:38
schestowitz	and people who upload this don't either, so they don't care	Jul 29 22:38
schestowitz	like those Electron hipster you joked about earlier... assuming 8gb of ram	Jul 29 22:39
XRevan86	it really should've been an SVG	Jul 29 22:39
XRevan86	and it's probably a render of an SVG	Jul 29 22:39
XRevan86	schestowitz: Argueably, you're using the Big Browser Engine ;)	Jul 29 22:39
XRevan86	the Biggest one	Jul 29 22:39
schestowitz	anyway, my system is a mess now	Jul 29 22:40
schestowitz	everything is in swap	Jul 29 22:40
schestowitz	PID=29695 - Swap used: 23032 - (kded5 )	Jul 29 22:40
schestowitz	PID=21168 - Swap used: 36288 - (konversation )	Jul 29 22:40
schestowitz	PID=28501 - Swap used: 45040 - (kate )	Jul 29 22:40
schestowitz	PID=11227 - Swap used: 694168 - (thunderbird )	Jul 29 22:40
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MinceR	maybe the page that embeds a rescaled version is more manageable >> https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/8362jy/the_chronology_of_german_emperors_presidents_and/	Jul 29 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| The chronology of German Emperors, Presidents and Chancellors [OC] : dataisbeautiful		Jul 29 22:42
MinceR	strange, second time i open the big picture it's rescaled with a much better algorithm	Jul 29 22:43
MinceR	and my palemoon still doesn't eat more than 1.3GB RAM	Jul 29 22:43
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/14123023	Jul 29 22:59
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cubexyz	well, I'm running openbsd on 256 meg, fc1 runs on 384 meg, and the vector box runs on 512 meg	Jul 29 23:09
cubexyz	I'm an expert on low-memory linux ;)	Jul 29 23:10
cubexyz	the funny thing is that I remember getting a c64 and thinking: wow 64k of ram	Jul 29 23:10
cubexyz	nowadays 64k isn't even enough for an icon	Jul 29 23:11
cubexyz	I've run slackware 14.2 on 1 gig of ram for about a month, and it seems OK	Jul 29 23:12
cubexyz	fedora 16 recommended 768 megs of ram as a _minimum_	Jul 29 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023670300767125505	Jul 29 23:15
TweetTuxMachines	Programming: GitLab, C++17, GCC	Jul 29 23:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5ZEMsYtrt8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 29 23:15
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 29 23:15
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cubexyz	I don't think slackware is particularly great at low memory use but it's not terrible	Jul 29 23:15
cubexyz	if you have a thinkpad t23 you could put plan 9 on it	Jul 29 23:16
cubexyz	or a toshiba 2800	Jul 29 23:18
cubexyz	those are pretty old though	Jul 29 23:18
cubexyz	the problem with very old laptops is what to do when the LCD starts to fail	Jul 29 23:19
cubexyz	what to do with all the old dev systems? I have to keep those running	Jul 29 23:22
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18040957	Jul 29 23:24
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18040913	Jul 29 23:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023693250689945600	Jul 30 01:16
TweetTuxMachines	#OpenMW 0.44.0 (Free Software) and Valve (DRM)	Jul 30 01:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uirlfBMVZn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 01:16
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 01:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023808520905535488	Jul 30 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	#Linux 4.18-rc7 https://t.co/8GemxnfM0e	Jul 30 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 06:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023808772135895040	Jul 30 07:17
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/4Z9hNmegZr	Jul 30 07:17
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 07:17
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18033114	Jul 30 07:20
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/1804092	Jul 30 07:45
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*TweetTuxMachines @OverlordTha favourited '10 GNU/Linux Video Editing Apps in #AppImage https://t.co/dApDKNuFwu...'		Jul 30 08:02
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schestowitz	MinceR: ouch	Jul 30 09:22
schestowitz	I don't like seeing people get hurt like that	Jul 30 09:22
schestowitz	she'd probably have survived with very serious damage	Jul 30 09:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Septor_Linux/status/1023826066480291842	Jul 30 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by 10 GNU/Linux Video Editing Apps in #AppImage	Jul 30 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	@Septor_Linux https://t.co/dApDKNuFwu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 09:27
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023849154764779520	Jul 30 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	50 Best Ubuntu Apps You Should Be Using Right Now	Jul 30 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OsECIMg1bo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 09:35
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 09:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023849439805534208	Jul 30 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	A single-user, lightweight OS for your next home project	Jul 30 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/llsnQ279Xp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 10:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023864988652453888	Jul 30 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Jul 30 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OuzU33CXhm (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 10:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023865993226072064	Jul 30 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Jul 30 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7E8gfBlNae (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 10:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023866888990978048	Jul 30 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	Links 30/7/2018: Linux 4.18 RC7, OpenMW 0.44.0,	Jul 30 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BBWkGwrEYT (www.freedesktop.org) GitLab	Jul 30 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/To3YEfm5ui (techrights.org)	Jul 30 11:01
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XRevan86	> https://ircz.de/p/1804092	Jul 30 11:26
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XRevan86	Das ist Russland.	Jul 30 11:26
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MinceR	https://i.redd.it/0vct0x36p1d11.jpg	Jul 30 12:59
XRevan86	MinceR: I can tell it's from the US by "punctuation."	Jul 30 13:06
MinceR	?	Jul 30 13:08
XRevan86	MinceR: Usonians have a special relationship with the quotation marks.	Jul 30 13:09
XRevan86	place them out of order	Jul 30 13:10
XRevan86	IIRC, that's to make all marks more visible when printed with a dot matrix printer	Jul 30 13:11
XRevan86	akin to typing two spaces after a dot	Jul 30 13:12
MinceR	ic	Jul 30 13:12
XRevan86	I really don't get why they keep doing that.	Jul 30 13:13
XRevan86	I haven't seen a dot matrix printer in ages.	Jul 30 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1023871137959346176	Jul 30 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 30/7/2018: Linux 4.18 RC7, OpenMW 0.44.0,	Jul 30 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/BBWkGwrEYT (www.freedesktop.org) GitLab	Jul 30 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/To3YEfm5ui (techrights.org)	Jul 30 13:15
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MinceR	afaik the us already existed but was more isolated than today when printing devices spread	Jul 30 13:16
MinceR	so it shouldn't be surprising that they have different conventions	Jul 30 13:16
XRevan86	MinceR: It's surprising that they stick to them.	Jul 30 13:16
MinceR	they stick to stupider things, why would they not stick to such neutral things?	Jul 30 13:17
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MinceR	https://i.redd.it/lm4uckzs82d11.jpg	Jul 30 14:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023979498428133377	Jul 30 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Updates, Marcus Hutchins (MalwareTech) and FUD	Jul 30 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8vhQvcBGNx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 18:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023980061769310208	Jul 30 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	#IPFire Hardened Linux Firewall Distribution Gets Major	Jul 30 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	Update, Here's What's New https://t.co/wIeGGQ48fb	Jul 30 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 18:16
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IPFire Hardened Linux Firewall Distribution Gets Major Update, Here's What's New \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023980458789543937	Jul 30 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/oycy3L4Gs4	Jul 30 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 18:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023982183667654656	Jul 30 18:43
TweetTuxMachines	7 #Python libraries for more maintainable code	Jul 30 18:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SzQb4g1iN9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 18:43
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 18:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023987222540951552	Jul 30 18:44
TweetTuxMachines	#Ubuntu 18.04 -- MATE and Budgie editions	Jul 30 18:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OLiU4rKIBG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 18:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1023987642986385408	Jul 30 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	Debian: #Gnocchi 4.3.0, Reproducible Builds, DebConf 18	Jul 30 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	Report	Jul 30 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3zZ5Rpuayt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 18:50
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*TweetTuxMachines @SoftpediaLinux favourited '#IPFire Hardened Linux Firewall Distribution Gets Major Update,...'		Jul 30 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/GamerGeekNews/status/1023989130160758784	Jul 30 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Ubuntu 18.04 -- MATE and Budgie editions	Jul 30 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	@GamerGeekNews https://t.co/OLiU4rKIBG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 19:11
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 19:11
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#IPFire Hardened Linux Firewall Distribution Gets Major Update,...'		Jul 30 19:28
*TweetTuxMachines @sopanx favourited '#IPFire Hardened Linux Firewall Distribution Gets Major Update,...'		Jul 30 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024002272286728193	Jul 30 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat: Microservices, Container Runtime, "Red Hat	Jul 30 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	Outlook Disappoints", Fedora News	Jul 30 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3TEpN4kTtf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 19:45
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat: Microservices, Container Runtime, "Red Hat Outlook Disappoints", Fedora News \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024002885540036610	Jul 30 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	Hardware: Mercury Security, Rock960, RISC-V	Jul 30 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QzfeYEQHJU (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux	Jul 30 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Hardware: Mercury Security, Rock960, RISC-V \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 19:45
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/n0ther_guy/status/1024005906831269888	Jul 30 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@n0ther_guy: @schestowitz Maybe because the world is not so black and white. Plus, VS Code is a decent product generally speakin… https://t.co/2eeOwA6xhU		Jul 30 19:58
schestowitz	"	Jul 30 19:58
schestowitz	Maybe because the world is not so black and white. Plus, VS Code is a decent product generally speaking.	Jul 30 19:58
schestowitz	Could you please explain what malware are you referring to (I have no clue)?	Jul 30 19:58
schestowitz	"	Jul 30 19:58
schestowitz	Red Hat promoting Microsoft, MinceR	Jul 30 19:58
MinceR	as expected	Jul 30 19:58
XRevan86	The Atom.io fork	Jul 30 19:59
XRevan86	not sure if the word fork still applies	Jul 30 19:59
MinceR	well, m$ bought github, which owns atom.io	Jul 30 19:59
XRevan86	considering Atom.io and VS Code are both run by the same company	Jul 30 19:59
XRevan86	I heard a lot of people speak favourably of VS Code	Jul 30 20:00
XRevan86	I for one never checked out neither	Jul 30 20:00
XRevan86	* either	Jul 30 20:00
MinceR	people speak favourably of all sorts of shit	Jul 30 20:00
XRevan86	It's Electron	Jul 30 20:00
MinceR	i suspect something would have to be really good for people to not speak favorably of it	Jul 30 20:01
XRevan86	I prefer my text editors to eat less than 1G of RAM	Jul 30 20:01
MinceR	so do i	Jul 30 20:01
schestowitz	lol	Jul 30 20:01
schestowitz	is it that bad?	Jul 30 20:01
MinceR	i also prefer my text editors to not make me dependent on corporations that try to destroy the IT industry	Jul 30 20:01
MinceR	schestowitz: it's built on a web browser	Jul 30 20:01
XRevan86	schestowitz: C'mon, it's Chromium under the hood.	Jul 30 20:02
XRevan86	not just any browser	Jul 30 20:02
XRevan86	As I limitedly understand, JS developers like it exactly for it being able to analyse JS code well	Jul 30 20:03
XRevan86	or something like that	Jul 30 20:03
MinceR	and because they believe in all that shit	Jul 30 20:04
MinceR	flash2.0^W"HTML5"	Jul 30 20:04
XRevan86	+ node.js et al	Jul 30 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/GamerGeekNews/status/1024002980398415873	Jul 30 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Hardware: Mercury Security, Rock960, RISC-V	Jul 30 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	@GamerGeekNews https://t.co/QzfeYEQHJU (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux	Jul 30 20:11
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Hardware: Mercury Security, Rock960, RISC-V \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024009504021798912	Jul 30 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Jul 30 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FJB2EFqVbP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 20:15
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18040852	Jul 30 20:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de \| IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object		Jul 30 20:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024010409878188033	Jul 30 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	OS Turf Wars	Jul 30 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eS0cEmcFJX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 20:44
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OS Turf Wars \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 20:44
schestowitz	MinceR: hehe, nice one	Jul 30 20:55
schestowitz	old:	Jul 30 20:56
schestowitz	https://www.idontplaydarts.com/2016/04/detecting-curl-pipe-bash-server-side/	Jul 30 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.idontplaydarts.com \| Detecting the use of "curl \| bash" server side \| Application Security		Jul 30 20:56
XRevan86	Oddly, the thought of doing curl \| bash never ever occured to me	Jul 30 20:58
XRevan86	or rather, the temptation to do so	Jul 30 20:59
MinceR	:)	Jul 30 21:06
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18040833	Jul 30 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de \| IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object		Jul 30 21:15
schestowitz	XRevan86: that's what's interesting about it	Jul 30 21:31
XRevan86	https://xmppshare.meowr.ru/7018dab47d96f0125923921d7e7b834efc33c532/rYvMr6A0dTfjmcwMtdsUvV9UMwwS6nrGytJ61l1b/cap_Stargate_00_12_03_01.jpg O___O	Jul 30 21:37
XRevan86	SG-1 S05E13	Jul 30 21:38
*TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited '#IPFire Hardened Linux Firewall Distribution Gets Major Update,...'		Jul 30 21:38
XRevan86	They're training the cadets	Jul 30 21:38
XRevan86	so I see this barrel	Jul 30 21:38
XRevan86	which says "warning!" in Russian	Jul 30 21:38
XRevan86	Finally they had some Russian text that has no error in it	Jul 30 21:39
XRevan86	and it's placed in the US	Jul 30 21:39
MinceR	:)	Jul 30 21:40
MinceR	see, they even write russian better in murukur	Jul 30 21:40
MinceR	(or is that murukah?)	Jul 30 21:40
XRevan86	MinceR: Superior in every way :D	Jul 30 21:42
*TweetTuxMachines @JoseMVAlmeida favourited '#IPFire Hardened Linux Firewall Distribution Gets Major Update,...'		Jul 30 22:14
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/1803311	Jul 30 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de \| IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object		Jul 30 22:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024040518685261825	Jul 30 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	Mozilla: Screenshots, #WeTransfer Extension for Firefox,	Jul 30 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	and #WebRender	Jul 30 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/shKgxjomk6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #mozilla	Jul 30 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	#firefox	Jul 30 22:58
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla: Screenshots, WeTransfer Extension for Firefox, and WebRender \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 22:59
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18070751	Jul 30 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de \| IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object		Jul 30 23:05
XRevan86	MinceR: English was the downfall of dinosaurs.	Jul 30 23:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024051613227474945	Jul 30 23:06
TweetTuxMachines	In Open Hardware, “Free as in Beer” Matters	Jul 30 23:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uMo6Cxfnv5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 23:06
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| In Open Hardware, “Free as in Beer” Matters \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 23:06
MinceR	indeed	Jul 30 23:07
*TweetTuxMachines @rohangrey retweeted @tuxmachines: 'In Open Hardware, “Free as in Beer” Matters...'		Jul 30 23:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024058194610544640	Jul 30 23:28
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 19 "Tara" More Powerful And Stable	Jul 30 23:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qDivt7IAm4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 23:28
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint 19 "Tara" More Powerful And Stable \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 23:28
XRevan86	https://pleroma.site/notice/2706164	Jul 30 23:29
XRevan86	schestowitz: nice :)	Jul 30 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024059106179600384	Jul 30 23:35
TweetTuxMachines	An Interview with Heptio, the Kubernetes Pioneers	Jul 30 23:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RNHXUObqfP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 23:35
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 23:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| An Interview with Heptio, the Kubernetes Pioneers \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 23:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024060812435054592	Jul 30 23:46
TweetTuxMachines	#EROFS #FileSystem Merged Ahead Of Linux 4.19 Kernel	Jul 30 23:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6yF0bjJZoM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 23:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| EROFS File-System Merged Ahead Of Linux 4.19 Kernel \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 23:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024063567572750339	Jul 30 23:50
schestowitz	XRevan86: cheers	Jul 30 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	Lazy TLB Improvements Heading To Linux 4.19	Jul 30 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jcQkNZ6eTE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 23:50
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Lazy TLB Improvements Heading To Linux 4.19 \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 23:50
schestowitz	thanks to your link	Jul 30 23:50
XRevan86	schestowitz: I'm glad I was able to help with information :)	Jul 30 23:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024064683530244096	Jul 30 23:52
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Jul 30 23:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/J0Db4RrsbD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 23:52
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 23:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 23:52
XRevan86	to put a face on RT	Jul 30 23:52
schestowitz	I knew before some things	Jul 30 23:53
schestowitz	just wasn't sure who runs it	Jul 30 23:53
schestowitz	I knew more or less who funded it	Jul 30 23:53
XRevan86	schestowitz: Yeah, of course	Jul 30 23:54
XRevan86	Thing is, Kiselyov is very famous around here	Jul 30 23:54
XRevan86	there's even been a parody of him done in Ukraine	Jul 30 23:54
schestowitz	Not sure about Sputnik management	Jul 30 23:54
schestowitz	only its funding	Jul 30 23:54
schestowitz	apparently Kremlin also	Jul 30 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024065235261513729	Jul 30 23:55
TweetTuxMachines	Graphics: Freedreno, XWayland, Vulkan, Libinput	Jul 30 23:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RUJB7ULire (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 30 23:55
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 30 23:55
schestowitz	The latter is newer	Jul 30 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Graphics: Freedreno, XWayland, Vulkan, Libinput \| Tux Machines		Jul 30 23:55
schestowitz	RT I found out about just over a decade ago	Jul 30 23:56
schestowitz	the latter maybe 5 years ago	Jul 30 23:56
XRevan86	Sputnik is not as well known to me	Jul 30 23:56
schestowitz	And it's less professionally written	Jul 30 23:56
schestowitz	there are some further to the right	Jul 30 23:56
schestowitz	composed by more extreme elements	Jul 30 23:56
schestowitz	also in Google News	Jul 30 23:56
XRevan86	I just asked someone about what they know about it. The answer was "the search engine or the radio" %)	Jul 30 23:56
schestowitz	but also far fewer articles	Jul 30 23:56
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_(search_engine) oh hey, a Wikipedia article in English %)	Jul 30 23:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Sputnik (search engine) - Wikipedia		Jul 30 23:58
XRevan86	This thing is mostly a part of satire jokes about unsuccessful import-replacement initiatives.	Jul 30 23:58
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_(news_agency)	Jul 31 00:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Sputnik (news agency) - Wikipedia		Jul 31 00:00
XRevan86	> established by the Russian government-owned news agency Rossiya Segodnya	Jul 31 00:00
XRevan86	Oh, same people.	Jul 31 00:00
XRevan86	So again, Dmitry Kiselyov and Margarita Simonyan	Jul 31 00:01
XRevan86	schestowitz: I did hear about RIA Novosti, which is apparently what was renamed into Sputnik.	Jul 31 00:07
schestowitz	I didn't know there's such an engine for search	Jul 31 00:36
schestowitz	brb	Jul 31 00:36
XRevan86	Well, it's not really important.	Jul 31 00:40
XRevan86	No one uses it.	Jul 31 00:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024065936129708032	Jul 31 00:43
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 30 To Take Stab At Eliminating Excessive Linking	Jul 31 00:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ZXouyN48nO (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 00:43
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 30 To Take Stab At Eliminating Excessive Linking \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 00:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024077930312286208	Jul 31 00:46
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat News	Jul 31 00:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Le2KULlpsY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 00:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat News \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 00:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024078688936185856	Jul 31 00:48
TweetTuxMachines	Software: The Top 20 Penetration Testing Tools, Wikit,	Jul 31 00:48
TweetTuxMachines	Eksctl, IRC, Smack, GCC	Jul 31 00:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AElEY3IHub (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 00:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Software: The Top 20 Penetration Testing Tools, Wikit, Eksctl, IRC, Smack, GCC \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 00:48
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 00:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024079121884884994	Jul 31 00:49
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel: @LinuxFoundation Members, Study, and All Systems	Jul 31 00:49
TweetTuxMachines	Go!	Jul 31 00:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iyx3QkkO7C (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 00:50
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kernel: Linux Foundation Members, Study, and All Systems Go! \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 00:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024079530431012865	Jul 31 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux Miscellany	Jul 31 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/VK9Nr4ubCE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 00:51
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 00:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNU/Linux Miscellany \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024079850011811840	Jul 31 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME/GUADEC and KDE Software With Microsoft/Windows DRM	Jul 31 00:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/HTum1I6Iz1 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 00:53
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME/GUADEC and KDE Software With Microsoft/Windows DRM \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 00:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024080332008693760	Jul 31 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Jul 31 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Km3Rxj5Vr8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 00:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024081041227763713	Jul 31 01:12
TweetTuxMachines	Links 30/7/2018: Linux Kernel 4.18 Plans, Linux	Jul 31 01:12
TweetTuxMachines	Foundation Growth https://t.co/l2kPueh51u	Jul 31 01:12
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TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 01:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/1024085401789718528	Jul 31 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #EROFS #FileSystem Merged Ahead Of Linux 4.19 Kernel	Jul 31 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/6yF0bjJZoM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 03:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Septor_Linux/status/1024175674590941184	Jul 31 07:15
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Debian: #Gnocchi 4.3.0, Reproducible Builds, DebConf 18	Jul 31 07:15
TweetTuxMachines	@Septor_Linux Report	Jul 31 07:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3zZ5Rpuayt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 07:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/SerbianLinuks/status/1024176724748197888	Jul 31 07:38
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Debian: #Gnocchi 4.3.0, Reproducible Builds, DebConf 18	Jul 31 07:38
TweetTuxMachines	@SerbianLinuks Report	Jul 31 07:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3zZ5Rpuayt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 07:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024189446814674950	Jul 31 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Apps may come to Chromebooks in Stable Channel In	Jul 31 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	Version 69	Jul 31 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6w0d5fKp4b (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 08:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024189674661789696	Jul 31 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	How to upgrade from Ubuntu Linux 16.04 to 18.04	Jul 31 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JMCmz27mTI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 08:08
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 08:08
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18040757	Jul 31 08:16
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schestowitz	nice	Jul 31 08:22
schestowitz	that too would offend someone.... somehow	Jul 31 08:22
MinceR	which is fine	Jul 31 08:23
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schestowitz	skin-thickening exercis	Jul 31 08:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024189854891102208	Jul 31 08:31
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/0G0441rN6J	Jul 31 08:31
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 08:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1024207071472955392	Jul 31 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 30/7/2018: Linux Kernel 4.18 Plans, Linux	Jul 31 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Foundation Growth https://t.co/l2kPueh51u	Jul 31 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jul 31 10:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024225538351738881	Jul 31 10:30
TweetTuxMachines	The Dark Side of Containers: Protecting #Container Data	Jul 31 10:30
TweetTuxMachines	from Itself	Jul 31 10:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/M73z64kcwo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 10:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 10:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Dark Side of Containers: Protecting Container Data from Itself \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 10:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024228468924592128	Jul 31 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	#Mozilla is Evolving the #Firefox Brand (New Logo/s)	Jul 31 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/amjCf2LGyt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 10:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla is Evolving the Firefox Brand (New Logo/s) \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 10:47
XRevan86	OpenWrt 18.06.0 has been released https://downloads.openwrt.org/releases/18.06.0/	Jul 31 11:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024229816407609344	Jul 31 11:48
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Jul 31 11:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MGW5JXs997 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 11:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@technologytales https://twitter.com/technologytales/status/1024276593412325376	Jul 31 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	The latest Technology Tales Daily!	Jul 31 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jDxw0BLmea (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines	Jul 31 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	#linux #opensource	Jul 31 14:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024279841393307648	Jul 31 14:11
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME: Shell Activities, GNOME Twitch and Games	Jul 31 14:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5cdwzwAqCu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 14:11
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 14:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024281304714674176	Jul 31 14:23
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/OnBQQuq5jd	Jul 31 14:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 14:23
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 14:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024284144178790400	Jul 31 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	Lubuntu Doesn’t Want to be the “distribution for old	Jul 31 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	computers” Anymore https://t.co/JI4wNm6CLH	Jul 31 14:29
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 14:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024290547131969536	Jul 31 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	#Thunderbolt Runtime Power Management Staged For Linux	Jul 31 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	4.19	Jul 31 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oo731o8yWS (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernel	Jul 31 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	#linux	Jul 31 14:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024290899231211521	Jul 31 15:28
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Symantec TLS Certificates, Automating Kernel	Jul 31 15:28
TweetTuxMachines	Exploitation, Initial SpectreRSB Support	Jul 31 15:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/woHpBz0aVq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: Symantec TLS Certificates, Automating Kernel Exploitation, Initial SpectreRSB Support \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 15:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024300718214316032	Jul 31 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	EA Kills "Open Source" Version Of #SimCity 2000	Jul 31 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/goKUHM7BZC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 15:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024305341226471429	Jul 31 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	#Chromebook Marketing Badmouths Windows, MacOS	Jul 31 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Zhyvpog2F7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 16:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024311442340802565	Jul 31 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	#Debian and #Ubuntu Leftovers	Jul 31 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3to80bP5XX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 16:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024311857245573121	Jul 31 16:16
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel: EROFS (Extendable Read-Only File System) and	Jul 31 16:16
TweetTuxMachines	Wayland Protocols 1.16	Jul 31 16:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BjRG0PJJu1 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 16:16
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 16:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024312834438688769	Jul 31 17:35
TweetTuxMachines	Software: Kiwi TCMS 5.1, Editors, Fping, networkctl and	Jul 31 17:35
TweetTuxMachines	some howtos	Jul 31 17:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4UKRlkn5Qq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 17:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024332941156073472	Jul 31 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	LMDE 3 “Cindy” Cinnamon – BETA Release	Jul 31 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vNrPCu2BQb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 17:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 17:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024333396754030592	Jul 31 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	Story of GNOME Shell Extensions https://t.co/5lZNC59SmX	Jul 31 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 17:55
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Story of GNOME Shell Extensions \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024337648595464192	Jul 31 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	#KDE #Plasma 5.13.4 Desktop Environment Released with	Jul 31 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	More Than 45 Improvements https://t.co/jSc8cQKOzp	Jul 31 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Jul 31 17:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024338464697974785	Jul 31 18:00
TweetTuxMachines	#Istio 1.0	Jul 31 18:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BH0UJT6A1M (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 18:00
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 18:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024338999303958530	Jul 31 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat's Latest Articles, OpenShift, and Finance	Jul 31 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2SuUPeXWE1 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024339889255538688	Jul 31 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	UK's National Cyber Security Centre Give Advice on	Jul 31 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	Securing Ubuntu 18.04 LTS https://t.co/As7vJUe0GA	Jul 31 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 18:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 18:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024340227438071808	Jul 31 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	#Android Leftovers https://t.co/6dRXaxnAv2	Jul 31 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 18:08
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 18:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024340956915613696	Jul 31 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	Google’s Edge TPU AI chip will run on a USB stick	Jul 31 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	computer https://t.co/WDs8YhOMYt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 18:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google’s Edge TPU AI chip will run on a USB stick computer \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024346433938485248	Jul 31 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	Games Leftovers	Jul 31 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PMF1konS7w (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 18:31
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 18:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024346792173993986	Jul 31 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	Here's the New Login Screen of Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic	Jul 31 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	Cuttlefish) with Yaru Theme https://t.co/44d9kydZiD	Jul 31 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Here's the New Login Screen of Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) with Yaru Theme \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 18:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 18:51
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 18:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/jetcage/status/1024351704773476354	Jul 31 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by UK's National Cyber Security Centre Give Advice on	Jul 31 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	@jetcage Securing Ubuntu 18.04 LTS https://t.co/As7vJUe0GA	Jul 31 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 18:54
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 18:54
*TweetTuxMachines @SoftpediaLinux favourited '#KDE #Plasma 5.13.4 Desktop Environment Released with More...'		Jul 31 18:54
*TweetTuxMachines @SoftpediaLinux favourited 'UK's National Cyber Security Centre Give Advice on...'		Jul 31 18:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024353809106173952	Jul 31 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	#Dell XPS 13 Kabylake Makes For A Great Linux Laptop	Jul 31 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UZWOqGxZMK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 19:08
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 19:08
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*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#KDE #Plasma 5.13.4 Desktop Environment Released with More...'		Jul 31 19:08
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Here's the New Login Screen of Ubuntu 18.10...'		Jul 31 19:08
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'UK's National Cyber Security Centre Give Advice on...'		Jul 31 19:09
MinceR	https://78.media.tumblr.com/5ff84309620e00491e55cf277e5cc107/tumblr_pcquaieyo01rxmn3vo1_1280.jpg	Jul 31 19:50
*TweetTuxMachines @sopanx favourited '#KDE #Plasma 5.13.4 Desktop Environment Released with More...'		Jul 31 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Syswork/status/1024371631207211008	Jul 31 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by UK's National Cyber Security Centre Give Advice on	Jul 31 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	@Syswork Securing Ubuntu 18.04 LTS https://t.co/As7vJUe0GA	Jul 31 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| UK's National Cyber Security Centre Give Advice on Securing Ubuntu 18.04 LTS \| Tux Machines		Jul 31 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 31 20:10
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 20:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Syswork/status/1024371695761715202	Jul 31 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #KDE #Plasma 5.13.4 Desktop Environment Released with	Jul 31 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	@Syswork More Than 45 Improvements https://t.co/jSc8cQKOzp	Jul 31 20:10
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Jul 31 20:10
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 31 20:10
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18040733	Jul 31 20:22
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18033032	Jul 31 21:28
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*TweetTuxMachines @Syswork favourited '#KDE #Plasma 5.13.4 Desktop Environment Released with More...'		Jul 31 21:33
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/1804074	Jul 31 21:57
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18040653	Jul 31 22:33
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XRevan86	The link does not work.	Jul 31 22:34
XRevan86	http://abcn.ws/2ul3qQK I mean	Jul 31 22:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/1024406036243988483	Jul 31 22:35
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #KDE #Plasma 5.13.4 Desktop Environment Released with	Jul 31 22:35
TweetTuxMachines	@ptheoiasptk More Than 45 Improvements https://t.co/jSc8cQKOzp	Jul 31 22:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Jul 31 22:35
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MinceR	that one indeed doesn't, but i can't see where it was used before	Jul 31 22:35
XRevan86	https://abc13.com/3296332 okay, here it is	Jul 31 22:36
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Blah	Hi	Jul 31 23:10
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cubexyz	I figured out a way to stop homm3 from crashing	Aug 01 01:05
cubexyz	just turn off the sound completely	Aug 01 01:06
cubexyz	something in libSDL-1.2.so	Aug 01 01:18
XRevan86	cubexyz: Isn't there a mature FOSS reimplementation?	Aug 01 01:19
cubexyz	there's VCMI, but some of the features aren't implemented	Aug 01 01:20
cubexyz	I have VCMI running on another computer	Aug 01 01:20
cubexyz	also I'm not sure if vcmi_editor works	Aug 01 01:22
cubexyz	XRevan86, if you ever install VCMI let me know	Aug 01 01:25
cubexyz	haven't been able to play it online	Aug 01 01:26
XRevan86	cubexyz: My attention span on videogames is extremely low	Aug 01 01:26
XRevan86	HOMM is not for me.	Aug 01 01:26
cubexyz	ah, a pity	Aug 01 01:26
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cubexyz	ha, just figured out how to rescan the scsi bus	Aug 01 01:48
cubexyz	wouldn't work on old linux I don't think	Aug 01 01:50
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memoryno-	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 02:47
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Ritche28	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 04:01
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schestowitz	now they paste this libel here?	Aug 01 04:11
schestowitz	Blogs pretends to be from freenode people? (fakes)	Aug 01 04:11
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Bahhumbug26	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 04:19
Bahhumbug26	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 04:19
schestowitz	go away, troll	Aug 01 04:19
cubexyz	is there no way to block those?	Aug 01 04:19
schestowitz	not if they morph	Aug 01 04:19
schestowitz	but I'm sure freenode will try to block the sockpuppets	Aug 01 04:20
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Asoka17	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 04:28
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moondoggy13	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 04:31
moondoggy13	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 04:31
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cubexyz	singapore, halifax, and korea	Aug 01 04:33
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alkyl16	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 04:47
alkyl16	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 04:47
schestowitz	I don't think we can ban them fast enough	Aug 01 04:47
schestowitz	not without risk of banning random people who just come here and are not the sockpuppets	Aug 01 04:48
cubexyz	can't we give all the regulars voice, then we won't see it	Aug 01 04:48
schestowitz	could do	Aug 01 04:48
schestowitz	I think we did that like 8 years ago	Aug 01 04:48
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schestowitz	cubexyz: I'm sure freenode is already 'on the case'	Aug 01 04:53
schestowitz	they're being defamed	Aug 01 04:53
schestowitz	staff of theirs	Aug 01 04:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024502214008741888	Aug 01 04:54
TweetTuxMachines	OPNsense 18.7 Released For FreeBSD 11 Powered Routers /	Aug 01 04:54
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TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS Release Candidate Ready for Testing	Aug 01 04:55
TweetTuxMachines	Ahead of August 2 Release	Aug 01 04:55
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TweetTuxMachines	Programming: GNU/Linux Development Workstations	Aug 01 04:57
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TweetTuxMachines	SMARC module runs Linux on i.MX8 QuadMax	Aug 01 05:20
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TweetTuxMachines	The Search for a GUI #Docker	Aug 01 05:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aSjmLyj0qy (www.tuxmachines.org) #container	Aug 01 05:22
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TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers	Aug 01 05:24
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TweetTuxMachines	Games: The Humble Sports Bundle, Forsaken Remastered,	Aug 01 05:29
TweetTuxMachines	Godhood	Aug 01 05:29
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TweetTuxMachines	#OpenWRT 18.06 Released, Their First Update Since Merging	Aug 01 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	With #LEDE	Aug 01 05:34
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cubexyz	gmail doesn't seem to handle tab characters correctly	Aug 01 05:46
schestowitz	you use gmail?	Aug 01 05:47
schestowitz	I'd be surprised	Aug 01 05:47
cubexyz	I do	Aug 01 05:47
cubexyz	I tried squirrelmail years ago and it was just too slow	Aug 01 05:48
schestowitz	it's old	Aug 01 05:48
schestowitz	I used to use it	Aug 01 05:48
schestowitz	move to roundcube	Aug 01 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024514184871116802	Aug 01 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	7 of the Best KDE Plasma Themes for Linux	Aug 01 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Yznj8zfgKm (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 01 05:48
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cubexyz	not that I'm happy with everything google does, but they did help coreboot a lot	Aug 01 05:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024517062885089280	Aug 01 05:50
TweetTuxMachines	Librem Updates	Aug 01 05:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mEXiYhlEhv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 01 05:50
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cubexyz	I always assume everyone can read my emails anyway	Aug 01 05:53
cubexyz	safer that way	Aug 01 05:53
schestowitz	lol https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/you-can-now-quickly-add-reaction-gifs-in-gmail/	Aug 01 06:02
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schestowitz	this just showed up in my feeds	Aug 01 06:02
schestowitz	what crap	Aug 01 06:02
schestowitz	what google reduced email to	Aug 01 06:02
schestowitz	EEE with gmail	Aug 01 06:02
cubexyz	howtogeek really isn't	Aug 01 06:02
schestowitz	all sorts of proprietary features, recently drm also	Aug 01 06:02
schestowitz	I kno	Aug 01 06:03
schestowitz	but sometimes thye cover Linux	Aug 01 06:03
schestowitz	and also, they promote listening devices	Aug 01 06:03
schestowitz	So I like to pick on them :-)	Aug 01 06:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024517750100828160	Aug 01 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, @LinuxFoundation and #Mesa	Aug 01 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wXITtv8Boh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 01 06:11
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TweetTuxMachines	GNOME: #JavaScript Extensions, #Vala and More	Aug 01 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yXl5iFlpML (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 01 06:13
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TweetTuxMachines	KDE: Kate, Akademy, KDE Connect, Google Summer of Code	Aug 01 06:17
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TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat: #Istio 1.0, #OpenShift and More	Aug 01 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bifdOPsAHp (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat	Aug 01 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Aug 01 06:37
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schestowitz	> Hi, Roy,	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	>	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> tldr; long rant about social control media.	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	>	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> M$ apologists ramping up the smears of JA:	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	>	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> x https://mobile.twitter.com/furrygirl/status/1024281639667392512	Aug 01 06:48
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schestowitz	>	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> Seriously, when I scan social control media of several types, I usually	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> find far more disinformation than information. Several bands or	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> interests control the dialog for all. I should have taken a long rest	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> from it during the spring as usual but didn't. However, it's not just	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> me getting tired it's also getting worse. Those who spread lies and	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> disinformation against JA know they are lying and have changed style to	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> push the same message on cue but without explicitly lying, relying on	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> their having lied enough before that just a reminder of the lies is done.	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	>	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> Real journalists barely exist any more. A tweet is hearsay not a	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> source. And even those rumors are very heavily filtered and delivered	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> in a non-natural, peculiar sequence designed to manipulate. However, I	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> have spoken with people who actually believe they are somehow getting	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	> real information via social control media.	Aug 01 06:48
schestowitz	>	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> Another topic which is just as messed up as the JA coverage is Myanmar	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> coverage. Because the Rohingya Brand(r) moslem insurgents have	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> successfully established not just a social control media presence but	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> gotten enough of the public to swallow their narrative, that even the	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> international-level politicians are now ignoring their violence above	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> and beyond continuing to ignore the illegal squatting. That has	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> repercussions for India and Europe because both are under attack a	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> second time. Now, like before one of the weapons is transmigration:	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> send your people over the borders in droves to establish settlements and	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> displace the natives. The first time there was more violence, but that	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> will come all too soon once again as we see in Sweden. There, the	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> postal service which used to provide coverage for the whole country	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> since the 1600s has been forced to stop serving an increasing number of	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> the no-go zones. They have done so because they are no longer able to	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> provide for the safety of their delivery staff, the delivery vehicles,	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> nor the cargo. Sweden and other EU countries have a lot of relevant	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> laws which have been actively unenforced for select groups for a long	Aug 01 06:49
schestowitz	> enough time that it has become a de facto change to their constitutions.	Aug 01 06:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024529393249656832	Aug 01 07:00
TweetTuxMachines	#Security Leftovers https://t.co/JlOGxEkQzx	Aug 01 07:00
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MinceR	01 051143 < schestowitz> Blogs pretends to be from freenode people? (fakes)	Aug 01 07:14
MinceR	yes	Aug 01 07:14
MinceR	(afaik)	Aug 01 07:14
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marcoslater	I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/	Aug 01 07:15
marcoslater	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 07:15
marcoslater	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 07:15
cubexyz	voice? :)	Aug 01 07:16
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18040621	Aug 01 07:17
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MinceR	sigyn's lagging	Aug 01 07:18
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18032965	Aug 01 07:27
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MinceR	https://www.atleastimnotchristian.com/	Aug 01 07:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024548683151552512	Aug 01 07:58
TweetTuxMachines	Open Hardware: Shakti, Prosthetics, Open Source	Aug 01 07:58
TweetTuxMachines	Bioprinter for 3D Printing Branching	Aug 01 07:58
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TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Aug 01 08:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024550278622846976	Aug 01 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	#Hyperledger Growth	Aug 01 08:01
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schestowitz	Cheers, MinceR, for that ban	Aug 01 08:03
schestowitz	I guess freenode staff can eventually muzzle them based on the text posted	Aug 01 08:03
schestowitz	pure defamation	Aug 01 08:04
schestowitz	MinceR: did you order these stickers?	Aug 01 08:05
MinceR	they're still failing	Aug 01 08:05
MinceR	no	Aug 01 08:05
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gregf	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 08:09
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MinceR	maybe we should try inviting Sigyn here as well, though i don't know how well is that tolerated nowadays	Aug 01 08:10
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niko1	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 08:39
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barschmade	I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/	Aug 01 08:48
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barschmade	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 08:48
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schestowitz	>> disinformation against JA know they are lying and have changed style to	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	>> push the same message on cue but without explicitly lying, relying on	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	>> their having lied enough before that just a reminder of the lies is done.	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	> At 13:31 UTC, SN might be spreading some of those:	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	>	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	> https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=list	Aug 01 09:31
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schestowitz	>	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	> I missed the preview before it went into the queue so I can't say for	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	> sure but they've consistently refused to publish anything positive about	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	> him in the past.	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	>	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	> AFAIK those are neither "DM" (direct messages) nor WL staff, but simply	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	> a chat log /about/ WL being misrepresented as WL.	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	Yes, I'm guessing you saw the dozens of "toots" I wrote about it over the past two days.	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	That's like presenting our IRC logs as my own views.	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	MinceR: maybe they try to troll IRC/freenode out of existence	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	I don't know who's behind the attacks	Aug 01 09:31
schestowitz	or the motivations	Aug 01 09:32
schestowitz	I haven't followed that closely enough	Aug 01 09:32
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justache17	I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/	Aug 01 09:49
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schestowitz	ffs	Aug 01 09:49
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christel28	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 09:52
christel28	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 09:52
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fractal	I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/	Aug 01 10:04
fractal	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 10:04
fractal	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 10:04
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schestowitz	I wonder if they'll eveb manage to get on top of the floods	Aug 01 10:14
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high_fiver	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 10:25
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MinceR	schestowitz: they're attacking many other networks as well	Aug 01 10:50
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mon13	I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/	Aug 01 10:55
mon13	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 10:55
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Guest49854	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 10:57
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Colti20	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 11:36
Colti20	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 11:36
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cubexyz	wow, they just keep coming	Aug 01 11:36
cubexyz	same nonsense over and over	Aug 01 11:36
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FastLizard427	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 11:59
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jlf11	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 12:15
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SerpentSpeech	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 12:37
SerpentSpeech	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 12:37
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nitrix25	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 12:52
nitrix25	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 12:53
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bambams16	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 12:55
bambams16	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 12:55
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dan3wik	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 13:26
dan3wik	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 13:26
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yaymuffins19	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 13:37
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Keygen	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 14:11
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aphel	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 14:12
aphel	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 14:13
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Mercster22	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 14:17
Mercster22	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 14:17
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schestowitz	wow, it's still going on....	Aug 01 15:26
schestowitz	just got back home	Aug 01 15:27
schestowitz	seems like freenode can't get them under control	Aug 01 15:27
schestowitz	but i remember massive ddos attacks on the network	Aug 01 15:27
schestowitz	those were worse	Aug 01 15:27
XRevan86	The wording gets to me	Aug 01 15:31
XRevan86	"I thought you guys might be interested"	Aug 01 15:31
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A5A	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 15:36
A5A	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 15:36
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schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2008/06/04/irc-log-02062008/	Aug 01 15:37
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schestowitz	this is our we stated 10 years ago	Aug 01 15:37
schestowitz	I thought it was August 2008	Aug 01 15:37
schestowitz	turns out June	Aug 01 15:37
schestowitz	yoonki1	Aug 01 15:38
schestowitz	it there :-)	Aug 01 15:38
schestowitz	talking about MS OOXML from Malaysia	Aug 01 15:38
schestowitz	the time flies...	Aug 01 15:38
MinceR	Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.	Aug 01 15:38
schestowitz	when did you join the channels?	Aug 01 15:39
MinceR	dunno	Aug 01 15:39
XRevan86	2013-2014 for me	Aug 01 15:39
schestowitz	MinceR: I think very earlier	Aug 01 15:40
schestowitz	maybe 2008	Aug 01 15:40
schestowitz	freenode will survive these idiots	Aug 01 15:44
schestowitz	when the idiots get bored	Aug 01 15:44
schestowitz	or when it becomes too much of a burden to connect	Aug 01 15:44
schestowitz	same with ddos attacks	Aug 01 15:44
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r_schestowitz	hi schestowitz	Aug 01 16:01
r_schestowitz	sebsebseb even	Aug 01 16:01
r_schestowitz	:-)	Aug 01 16:01
r_schestowitz	autocomplete	Aug 01 16:01
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r_schestowitz	nice	Aug 01 16:22
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sebsebseb	MinceR: I am buying an Apple product! Now you will love me!	Aug 01 16:40
XRevan86	sebsebseb: oh no	Aug 01 16:40
sebsebseb	XRevan86: yes	Aug 01 16:40
XRevan86	sebsebseb: What is the purpose of this?	Aug 01 16:40
sebsebseb	XRevan86: to play with Ios	Aug 01 16:42
XRevan86	In Corporate America iOS plays with YOU	Aug 01 16:43
XRevan86	sebsebseb: Have you gotten tired of playing with SailfishOS? %)	Aug 01 16:44
sebsebseb	XRevan86: NO	Aug 01 16:44
sebsebseb	still need to get that on my xperia x as well	Aug 01 16:44
*XRevan86 has a code: never to play with things that are designed to harm me.		Aug 01 16:46
sebsebseb	XRevan86: well don't trust the camera on it 100% and should be ok h eh	Aug 01 16:46
sebsebseb	it might be spying	Aug 01 16:46
sebsebseb	but I don't trust those 100% on android phones either	Aug 01 16:46
XRevan86	I would never register an Apple account	Aug 01 16:46
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sebsebseb	I got one from befoer	Aug 01 16:47
sebsebseb	that ipad	Aug 01 16:47
sebsebseb	but	Aug 01 16:47
sebsebseb	I don't have access now	Aug 01 16:47
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XRevan86	I don't have a Google account connected to anywhere either.	Aug 01 16:47
XRevan86	Wasn't hard to (not) do. I did (not) so since the very first time I've seen Android.	Aug 01 16:49
XRevan86	if a newbie like I was can do it…	Aug 01 16:49
XRevan86	I might be bragging a little bit :), but the point is to encourage not to attach the device to an account.	Aug 01 16:54
XRevan86	and to point out that it is likely impossible on iOS…	Aug 01 16:55
sebsebseb	XRevan86: Android and ios both attach device to account for app stoers and so on	Aug 01 16:57
sebsebseb	and updates	Aug 01 16:57
sebsebseb	well maybe not updates for android	Aug 01 16:57
sebsebseb	but app store definetly	Aug 01 16:57
XRevan86	sebsebseb: Luckily, on Android Play Store is optional.	Aug 01 16:58
sebsebseb	so is the app storeo n ios	Aug 01 16:58
XRevan86	There's Yalp Store and F-Droid, APKPure and APKMirror	Aug 01 16:58
sebsebseb	you dont' have to install apps	Aug 01 16:58
sebsebseb	but yes I guess ios has no alternaatives true	Aug 01 16:58
sebsebseb	it's the apple one or nothign	Aug 01 16:58
sebsebseb	XRevan86: aptoid jola uses for alternaive app store	Aug 01 16:58
XRevan86	sebsebseb: I heard one even has a freedom of not powering the device up.	Aug 01 16:59
sebsebseb	which	Aug 01 16:59
XRevan86	sebsebseb: That too	Aug 01 16:59
sebsebseb	not poewring up what device	Aug 01 17:00
XRevan86	That was a reply to	Aug 01 17:00
XRevan86	> so is the app store on ios	Aug 01 17:00
XRevan86	> you don't have to install apps	Aug 01 17:00
XRevan86	it's like you don't have to use ios on iphone, you simply can power the device not	Aug 01 17:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@SerbianLinuks https://t.co/Yznj8zfgKm (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 01 17:08
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XRevan86	sebsebseb: So, you know, even though Android is a questionable piece of software, not really FOSS or respecting of privacy of its users…	Aug 01 17:08
XRevan86	sebsebseb: iOS is just a lot worse	Aug 01 17:08
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sebsebseb	XRevan86: Android is not with googles services no	Aug 01 17:08
sebsebseb	the os itself is open source though	Aug 01 17:09
sebsebseb	and Apple is clever, a mix of their proptary stuff, with open source they can use, and lip stick	Aug 01 17:09
XRevan86	sebsebseb: When it actually reaches you, that's not what you get.	Aug 01 17:09
sebsebseb	you get with teh services	Aug 01 17:10
sebsebseb	google paly etc	Aug 01 17:10
sebsebseb	the closed source	Aug 01 17:10
XRevan86	sebsebseb: And proprietary patches (not always legal)	Aug 01 17:10
sebsebseb	some manufacture changes etc	Aug 01 17:10
XRevan86	it all adds up	Aug 01 17:10
sebsebseb	XRevan86: Apple is more locked in	Aug 01 17:10
sebsebseb	but	Aug 01 17:10
sebsebseb	for using ios can be ok	Aug 01 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024688141133914112	Aug 01 17:10
XRevan86	sebsebseb: Way more	Aug 01 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	#Hiri is an Email Client Created Exclusively for Using	Aug 01 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	Microsoft Exchange on Linux https://t.co/ZRtlk8nB0h	Aug 01 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 01 17:10
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XRevan86	sebsebseb: You're assuming using iOS is ok.	Aug 01 17:10
sebsebseb	XRevan86: I don't trust any phones fully	Aug 01 17:11
sebsebseb	XRevan86: they could spy etc	Aug 01 17:11
sebsebseb	XRevan86: I do trust my ubuntu / u bports phones more though	Aug 01 17:11
sebsebseb	and things like that	Aug 01 17:11
sebsebseb	XRevan86: and I would mostly trust the libre m as well	Aug 01 17:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024688734292402179	Aug 01 17:11
TweetTuxMachines	#Android Leftovers https://t.co/iYw08ckORx	Aug 01 17:11
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sebsebseb	I haven't paid for a libre m yet	Aug 01 17:11
sebsebseb	that's got hardware kill switches for web cam and whatn ot	Aug 01 17:11
sebsebseb	even	Aug 01 17:11
XRevan86	sebsebseb: I bet you're going to let iOS into the Internet.	Aug 01 17:12
sebsebseb	XRevan86: he h h eh of course	Aug 01 17:12
sebsebseb	XRevan86: yes they may spy on intenret	Aug 01 17:13
sebsebseb	same issue with windows	Aug 01 17:13
sebsebseb	XRevan86: even Linux could poentiely spy though	Aug 01 17:13
sebsebseb	what is really in those millions and millions of lines of code	Aug 01 17:13
sebsebseb	in the kernel	Aug 01 17:14
sebsebseb	how can they properly check millions of lines of code?	Aug 01 17:14
XRevan86	What really is the difference between DPRK and the Netherlands? I mean, both have secret services	Aug 01 17:14
sebsebseb	XRevan86: most counteries do	Aug 01 17:14
sebsebseb	agents etc	Aug 01 17:14
XRevan86	sebsebseb: what is really going on there?	Aug 01 17:15
XRevan86	how can we properly check all their business?	Aug 01 17:15
razielle_tzu	not even they know, it's classified	Aug 01 17:15
sebsebseb	XRevan86: and razielle_tzu put a patch into the Linux kernel to spy on you specifically	Aug 01 17:16
sebsebseb	it's hidden away in millions of lines of code	Aug 01 17:16
sebsebseb	so hard to find !	Aug 01 17:16
sebsebseb	pretty much impossible	Aug 01 17:16
sebsebseb	it's too big now !	Aug 01 17:16
razielle_tzu	lol	Aug 01 17:16
razielle_tzu	i wouldn't do that...	Aug 01 17:16
XRevan86	sebsebseb: I trust GNU/Linux immeasurably more than Windows or macOS.	Aug 01 17:16
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: lier !	Aug 01 17:16
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: you would and you know it :D	Aug 01 17:16
razielle_tzu	i haven't even looked at the kernel code for years	Aug 01 17:16
sebsebseb	XRevan86: I trust it more too	Aug 01 17:17
sebsebseb	but it's[ not secure	Aug 01 17:17
sebsebseb	it gets bug	Aug 01 17:17
sebsebseb	s	Aug 01 17:17
sebsebseb	problems	Aug 01 17:17
sebsebseb	and other things like that	Aug 01 17:17
razielle_tzu	everything gets bugs	Aug 01 17:17
sebsebseb	also it's too big now surely	Aug 01 17:17
sebsebseb	if it's millions of lines of code	Aug 01 17:17
sebsebseb	how can they check it all etc >	Aug 01 17:17
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: my birthday money isn't lasting long h eh	Aug 01 17:17
razielle_tzu	does it ever?	Aug 01 17:17
sebsebseb	I have to use some of it to book my train now. or wait untill next week or something	Aug 01 17:17
XRevan86	sebsebseb: I still wouldn't use Windows over it.	Aug 01 17:18
sebsebseb	XRevan86: I trust windows the least	Aug 01 17:18
sebsebseb	but yet its all over the place still	Aug 01 17:18
sebsebseb	I don't trust windows	Aug 01 17:18
sebsebseb	onoilne	Aug 01 17:18
XRevan86	And the same way I wouldn't use iOS over… anything, really.	Aug 01 17:19
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: yeah 250 isn't that much, when about to book a train as well for nearly £100	Aug 01 17:19
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: and then go to subway later probably and other shop to get some yougurts	Aug 01 17:20
sebsebseb	those are near	Aug 01 17:20
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: hopefully its not gone up past 100 pounds now !	Aug 01 17:21
razielle_tzu	you should always book early, it's cheaper	Aug 01 17:21
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: i didn't really have funds three weeks ago	Aug 01 17:22
sebsebseb	I did the hotel early though	Aug 01 17:22
sebsebseb	paid for that	Aug 01 17:22
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: but yeah Sheffiled is going to cost me a few hundred pounds !	Aug 01 17:22
sebsebseb	but should be worth it	Aug 01 17:23
sebsebseb	for what I am going too	Aug 01 17:23
razielle_tzu	yeah	Aug 01 17:23
sebsebseb	yeah to what ?	Aug 01 17:23
razielle_tzu	it being worth it	Aug 01 17:23
sebsebseb	yeah will be nice to get away	Aug 01 17:23
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: hopefully its not a heat wave though !	Aug 01 17:23
sebsebseb	that heat was uh	Aug 01 17:23
sebsebseb	appartly coming back too	Aug 01 17:23
razielle_tzu	it is and gonna get worse	Aug 01 17:23
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: yeah september should be nice :d	Aug 01 17:24
sebsebseb	cooler ?	Aug 01 17:24
razielle_tzu	possibly but we've been keeping warmer weather later into the year, even if there's more rain then	Aug 01 17:24
sebsebseb	indeed	Aug 01 17:25
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: and farmers are in a mess too	Aug 01 17:25
sebsebseb	had to use winter stuff to feed cows	Aug 01 17:25
sebsebseb	since grass not been growing	Aug 01 17:25
razielle_tzu	i've heard	Aug 01 17:25
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: then they may need to import soethign from the eu to feed them in the winter h eh, before brexit :d	Aug 01 17:25
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: and they had to cull the older cows too	Aug 01 17:26
sebsebseb	I thought it meant htat, just looekd cull up indeed	Aug 01 17:26
sebsebseb	that reminded me	Aug 01 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024690824674795521	Aug 01 17:35
TweetTuxMachines	GNU C Library 2.28	Aug 01 17:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/VfC1mbBx2P (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu	Aug 01 17:35
TweetTuxMachines	#programming	Aug 01 17:35
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razielle_tzu	to cull.. to kill part of a herd or other collective of animals in order to thin the numbers due to shortages or to reduce the danger the animal group in question poses...	Aug 01 17:36
razielle_tzu	they did it a few years ago to reduce the risk of TB amongst cattle by culling badgers	Aug 01 17:37
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Humbedooh26	I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/	Aug 01 17:38
Humbedooh26	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 17:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024694849730215936	Aug 01 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	Games: Total War: WARHAMMER II, Crazy Justice and More	Aug 01 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WlBnAk5H0B (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 01 17:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024696461718634496	Aug 01 17:51
TweetTuxMachines	#Xubuntu Development Update August 2018	Aug 01 17:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5fZTsvot6r (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 01 17:51
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pj0	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 17:53
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TweetTuxMachines	Graphics: GLOVE, Armada DRM Drive, Mesa	Aug 01 18:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5FW299D4Xy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 01 18:00
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MinceR	sebsebseb: wrong	Aug 01 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024701307737841665	Aug 01 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	How to Choose a #Linux Distro (Without Trying them All)	Aug 01 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rOEEZLq0o9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 01 18:04
TweetTuxMachines		Aug 01 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024702214269480961	Aug 01 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	Review: The Linux Podcast Scene – all the movers and	Aug 01 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	shakers	Aug 01 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eJerFOa238 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 01 18:08
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sebsebseb	MinceR: Apple	Aug 01 18:09
MinceR	sebsebseb: see above	Aug 01 18:09
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Harzilein7	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 18:11
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18040546	Aug 01 18:11
Harzilein7	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 18:11
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TweetTuxMachines	#WarpDrive and #Linux Delays	Aug 01 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PUY4w29Cwf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 01 18:14
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razielle_tzu	MinceR, can you set a temp +r on the channel? it would stop the spam bots	Aug 01 18:16
MinceR	sure	Aug 01 18:17
MinceR	but i don't know if schestowitz would like it very much	Aug 01 18:17
MinceR	or i could set a +q $~a instead, but the same remark applies	Aug 01 18:17
razielle_tzu	hmm.. true	Aug 01 18:17
MinceR	or massvoice, set +m and manually voice people who don't look suspicious	Aug 01 18:18
razielle_tzu	from what i've seen in other channels the bots are using hte same three to six nicks for this	Aug 01 18:18
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MinceR	seemed to me they have an endless supply, but maybe i wasn't paying enough attention	Aug 01 18:18
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razielle_tzu	the +m might be the best option for now unless schestowitz gives the go ahead for one of the other options	Aug 01 18:19
sebsebseb	[18:18] <sebsebseb> razielle_tzu: hmm looks like I could have probably got a bit cheaper with a raldcard, but I rarely go on tarins anyway	Aug 01 18:20
MinceR	i'll see what he says	Aug 01 18:20
razielle_tzu	ok	Aug 01 18:20
razielle_tzu	sebsebseb, railcards usually make tickets cheaper	Aug 01 18:21
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: yeah but it costs 20 to have one for a year	Aug 01 18:23
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: and it would only be a like 30 pounds saving with that	Aug 01 18:24
sebsebseb	and I only go on a train like once a year	Aug 01 18:24
sebsebseb	razielle_tzu: or 54 for three years	Aug 01 18:24
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tsglove	With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/	Aug 01 18:55
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tsglove	Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate	Aug 01 18:55
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tsglove	A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/	Aug 01 18:55
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r_schestowitz	cheers!	Aug 01 18:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024726723122941957	Aug 01 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	How tai chi and a Linux laptop can create a tiny,	Aug 01 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	powerful orchestra	Aug 01 19:45
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux Foundation's Networking Summit and Certification	Aug 01 19:45
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XRevan86	MinceR: So many cats.	Aug 01 20:05
MinceR	indeed	Aug 01 20:05
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XRevan86	http://img2.ntv.ru/home/news/20120308/GIP_mocha.mp4_snapshot_03.16_2012.03.08_09.49.49_.jpg	Aug 01 20:29
XRevan86	Gennady Malakhov	Aug 01 20:29
XRevan86	on Russian Television	Aug 01 20:30
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux boots on new “Shakti” #RISCV chip	Aug 01 21:13
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cubexyz	I trust Unix v5 not to have malicious code	Aug 01 22:31
cubexyz	I've actually read all the lines of code :)	Aug 01 22:31
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*XRevan86 finally watched The Death of Stalin		Aug 01 22:41
MinceR	oh, i should watch that	Aug 01 22:41
XRevan86	weirdly enough, the movie is…	Aug 01 22:41
XRevan86	not funny	Aug 01 22:41
XRevan86	Wasn't it a comedy?	Aug 01 22:41
MinceR	hits too close to home? :>	Aug 01 22:42
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XRevan86	MinceR: Oddly, no.	Aug 01 22:42
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XRevan86	MinceR: It wasn't offensive either.	Aug 01 22:42
XRevan86	it was like watching an unfunny version of The Thick of It	Aug 01 22:43
cubexyz	sounds a bit like Yes, Minister	Aug 01 22:46
XRevan86	And… the characters were inaccurate. Which kind of undermines the whole point :-/	Aug 01 22:46
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XRevan86	And no one acted remotely like Russian, which is, I suppose, just my personal problem with suspension of disbelief.	Aug 01 22:51
XRevan86	But it probably means that for educational purposes this movie is not very good.	Aug 01 22:52
XRevan86	Oh, and the satire was very toned down.	Aug 01 22:53
XRevan86	> oh, i should watch that	Aug 01 22:53
XRevan86	MinceR: I do not recommend it though.	Aug 01 22:53
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XRevan86	> It was the favourite television programme of the then Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Margaret Thatcher.	Aug 01 23:02
XRevan86	cubexyz: Weird %)	Aug 01 23:02
XRevan86	MinceR: The more I think of it, the more disappointing this movie is	Aug 01 23:04
XRevan86	I bet the reality of the times this movie portrays was more meaty than what was shown	Aug 01 23:05
XRevan86	too much political drama for a movie?	Aug 01 23:05
cubexyz	XRevan86, you might like "Halt and Catch Fire"	Aug 01 23:05
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XRevan86	HollyW00d13: Hope you're having a nice day.	Aug 01 23:05
XRevan86	cubexyz: Never heard of it…	Aug 01 23:06
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XRevan86	cubexyz: Sounds intriguing	Aug 01 23:08
cubexyz	unfortunately I'm not sure Kildall or the Xerox Parc people get mentioned	Aug 01 23:09
MinceR	:>	Aug 01 23:10
MinceR	XRevan86: too much political drama for the length of movie people are willing to watch?	Aug 01 23:13
MinceR	see also: Tolkien adaptations	Aug 01 23:13
MinceR	(not political drama, just stuff that happens)	Aug 01 23:13
cubexyz	I liked this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_%281978_film%29	Aug 01 23:15
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XRevan86	MinceR: The problem is that it's hard to tell what's real and what isn't in the movie.	Aug 01 23:15
cubexyz	even though it ends very abruptly	Aug 01 23:15
XRevan86	MinceR: But they did make up most of the stuff for laughs.	Aug 01 23:16
XRevan86	or to get a point of super-villainy across	Aug 01 23:16
XRevan86	which was almost cartoony (was that for laughs also?)	Aug 01 23:17
XRevan86	MinceR: So, it's not like I wanted all of the things from the real world there, just… so that it were the basis of the movie	Aug 01 23:18
MinceR	XRevan86: well, it was a surreal era	Aug 01 23:18
XRevan86	but instead it tried to be a parody of The Thick of It	Aug 01 23:18
MinceR	it is also surreal now, but globally	Aug 01 23:18
MinceR	and apparently some people make an effort to be cartoony villains	Aug 01 23:19
XRevan86	It feels like the Monty Python's depiction of anexecution by firing squad was more accurate.	Aug 01 23:20
XRevan86	1. copypaste the term from Wikipedia; 2. forget to add articles; 3. ??? 4. PROFIT.	Aug 01 23:21
XRevan86	* of an execution by a firing squad	Aug 01 23:21
XRevan86	And, obviously, Monty Python is actually funny (:	Aug 01 23:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024750077053677568	Aug 01 23:25
TweetTuxMachines	The best way to update and install apps on #Ubuntu	Aug 01 23:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3y1hXMTskj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 01 23:25
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XRevan86	MinceR: Teal'c speech used to be very overly correct.	Aug 01 23:55
XRevan86	MinceR: But now I have witnessed this phrase: "I have failed both he and his mother".	Aug 01 23:55
XRevan86	What a disappointment.	Aug 01 23:56
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TweetTuxMachines	Ars on your lunch break: Tim O‘Reilly discusses the birth	Aug 02 04:11
TweetTuxMachines	of “open source” https://t.co/xtnSMQZxYl	Aug 02 04:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 02 04:11
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TweetTuxMachines	New Login Screen of Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish)	Aug 02 04:38
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TweetTuxMachines	#OpenWrt 18.06.0	Aug 02 04:52
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TweetTuxMachines	The Current Happenings Within #LXQt As Of Summer 2018	Aug 02 04:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8jkb1lb1nS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 02 04:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024865866255618049	Aug 02 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	Games: WORLD OF HORROR, Stardew Valley, Artifact, Steam	Aug 02 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Use	Aug 02 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jQusy1e87o (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 02 04:56
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TweetTuxMachines	#Mozilla Development/News/Policy	Aug 02 05:07
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TweetTuxMachines	Best Health And Fitness Tools For #Linux	Aug 02 05:52
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TweetTuxMachines	#PostgreSQL and #patents	Aug 02 05:57
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TweetTuxMachines	#LWN Articles About Linux (Kernel) Now Outside Paywall	Aug 02 06:10
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TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Aug 02 06:11
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TweetTuxMachines	GNOME: Supporting Developers, Fractal (Matrix client for	Aug 02 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME), Mutter and GUADEC 2018	Aug 02 06:14
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TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu: uCaresystem, Server, and National Cyber Security	Aug 02 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	Centre (NCSC)	Aug 02 06:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024888484304171008	Aug 02 06:26
TweetTuxMachines	The @LinuxFoundation Networking (LFN) and Open Networking	Aug 02 06:26
TweetTuxMachines	Summit Europe	Aug 02 06:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024889075839512576	Aug 02 06:29
TweetTuxMachines	Blockchain, Fintech, and AI Companies Join the	Aug 02 06:29
TweetTuxMachines	@LinuxFoundation Open Source Initiative	Aug 02 06:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024889716737499136	Aug 02 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	Localizer shares insights about the importance of	Aug 02 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	translating open source software into Breton	Aug 02 06:53
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TweetTuxMachines	Games: Humble Sports Bundle, SuperTuxKart, Sinclair ZX	Aug 02 06:56
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TweetTuxMachines	Software: GTK-VNC, Cockpit, Kodi, Pulseway and Opera	Aug 02 06:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024897225011412992	Aug 02 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Updates, DHS, NetSpectre, Multics Interview	Aug 02 07:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024900298643591168	Aug 02 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat News	Aug 02 07:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Septor_Linux/status/1024903020671328256	Aug 02 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by The best way to update and install apps on #Ubuntu	Aug 02 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	@Septor_Linux https://t.co/3y1hXMTskj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 02 07:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024919896096956416	Aug 02 08:32
TweetTuxMachines	Programming: ProjectQ and Rust	Aug 02 08:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024920638757240832	Aug 02 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	BSD: LLVM/Clang 7.0 and FreeBSD Update	Aug 02 08:34
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TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Aug 02 08:36
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TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Aug 02 08:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024923706081128453	Aug 02 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	Links 2/8/2018: Cockpit 174, OpenWrt 18.06.0, GNU C	Aug 02 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	Library 2.28 and Rome's FOSS Embrace	Aug 02 09:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1024934642435153920	Aug 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 2/8/2018: Cockpit 174, OpenWrt 18.06.0, GNU C	Aug 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Library 2.28 and Rome's FOSS Embrace	Aug 02 09:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1024946267611455488	Aug 02 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	How blockchain will influence open source	Aug 02 10:16
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TweetTuxMachines	Popular gaming platforms with support for Linux games	Aug 02 10:17
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TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/grlF3aNMQ6	Aug 02 10:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 02 10:28
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XRevan86	Russian colloquial or thieves' jargon for a police officer is "мент" ("myent")	Aug 02 13:56
XRevan86	Apparently it comes from Hungarian "mente" through Polish	Aug 02 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025002033903022081	Aug 02 14:07
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XRevan86	Although I do not see the same in the dictionary.	Aug 02 14:27
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r_schestowitz	can't believe the spammers are still at it	Aug 02 14:42
r_schestowitz	2 days now?	Aug 02 14:42
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MinceR	it's probably automatic	Aug 02 14:44
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XRevan86	MinceR: It means at least that they haven't exhausted their IPs.	Aug 02 14:45
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SopaXorzTaker	Apparently, W3C claims it made EME as a necessary evil	Aug 02 16:18
SopaXorzTaker	https://www.w3.org/blog/2017/02/on-eme-in-html5/	Aug 02 16:18
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MinceR	it's not new that they claim that	Aug 02 16:19
MinceR	neither is that it is not, and it marks the end of the open wev	Aug 02 16:19
MinceR	s/ev/eb/	Aug 02 16:19
SopaXorzTaker	MinceR, W3C is literally netflixes, googles and microsofts	Aug 02 16:20
SopaXorzTaker	Also, thanks to the latter HTML is not strict and the web standards are a horrible, poisonous mess	Aug 02 16:20
MinceR	and tbl gave his name to this gang of drm pushers	Aug 02 16:22
MinceR	also, don't forget the apples	Aug 02 16:22
SopaXorzTaker	MinceR, the web is utterly broken	Aug 02 16:24
SopaXorzTaker	the standards should be nuked and started over, IMO	Aug 02 16:24
SopaXorzTaker	Like, why the fuck is HTML5 non-XML?	Aug 02 16:24
SopaXorzTaker	Is closing a tag that painful?	Aug 02 16:25
r_schestowitz	[16:18] <SopaXorzTaker> Apparently, W3C claims it made EME as a necessary evil	Aug 02 16:25
r_schestowitz	necessary?	Aug 02 16:25
r_schestowitz	he could tell them to flip off	Aug 02 16:25
r_schestowitz	where would they go	Aug 02 16:26
r_schestowitz	The 'other' Internet?	Aug 02 16:26
SopaXorzTaker	r_schestowitz, they would organize some worse fuckery	Aug 02 16:27
SopaXorzTaker	e.g. forcing people to install weird executables and whatnot	Aug 02 16:27
XRevan86	SopaXorzTaker: I really don't get why XHTML hasn't superseded HTML.	Aug 02 16:30
SopaXorzTaker	XRevan86, because people can't write HTML	Aug 02 16:30
SopaXorzTaker	and thanks to some companies (cough: Microsoft, Netscape and their sh*tstorms)	Aug 02 16:30
SopaXorzTaker	This has produced lock-in, since idiots could now proliferate	Aug 02 16:31
SopaXorzTaker	-> see PHP	Aug 02 16:31
MinceR	also because browsers and backdoors that masquerade as browsers are shit	Aug 02 16:31
XRevan86	https://snabeltann.no/@thor/100458712550277426	Aug 02 16:37
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XRevan86	SopaXorzTaker: What about PHP?	Aug 02 16:37
SopaXorzTaker	XRevan86, it sucks?	Aug 02 16:39
XRevan86	SopaXorzTaker: I've seen worse.	Aug 02 16:39
XRevan86	PHP is a pretty simple solution. One just needs php-fpm and is ready to go.	Aug 02 16:40
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r_schestowitz	looks like the spammers got bored/tired, no?	Aug 02 17:47
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MinceR	"no" is correct	Aug 02 17:52
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XRevan86	MinceR: At first I thought it's about daltonism	Aug 02 18:14
XRevan86	colour blindness	Aug 02 18:14
MinceR	:)	Aug 02 18:16
MinceR	at first i thought "daltonism" meant belief in atoms being indivisible or something like that	Aug 02 18:16
XRevan86	MinceR: huh	Aug 02 18:18
XRevan86	MinceR: Why?	Aug 02 18:18
MinceR	atomic theory, John Dalton	Aug 02 18:19
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XRevan86	MinceR: oh	Aug 02 18:28
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DaemonFC[m]	I'm going to get a gun permit.	Aug 02 20:30
DaemonFC[m]	Next person that mugs me is going to deal with that since the Shitcago police won't do anything about it.	Aug 02 20:31
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cubexyz	политсия	Aug 02 21:23
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cubexyz	XRevan86, I can't seem to get cyrillic to work at the command line	Aug 02 21:30
cubexyz	I was trying to use cat	Aug 02 21:31
XRevan86	cubexyz: Uni3	Aug 02 21:33
XRevan86	https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/216184	Aug 02 21:34
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XRevan86	at least in Debian	Aug 02 21:34
cubexyz	sometimes I see cyrillic in the logs	Aug 02 21:34
cubexyz	hmmm, maybe the linux on that box is too old	Aug 02 21:35
XRevan86	cubexyz: Terminal fonts are still very limited	Aug 02 21:35
XRevan86	You'd have to use something like UniCyr_8x16	Aug 02 21:36
XRevan86	but then you won't get extended Latin for instance	Aug 02 21:36
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/17030132	Aug 02 22:09
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cubexyz	XRevan86, konsole can do it	Aug 02 22:38
cubexyz	I guess it's terminal specific	Aug 02 22:38
XRevan86	cubexyz: Terminal emulators are a totally different animal	Aug 02 22:39
XRevan86	if you meant them, then sure, just use a font with Cyrillic support	Aug 02 22:39
cubexyz	right, well I should have mentioned I usually use konsole with ssh	Aug 02 22:40
XRevan86	Like Terminus	Aug 02 22:40
XRevan86	or some TTF font	Aug 02 22:40
cubexyz	sometimes I grep the irc logs and there's a bit of cyrillic in there	Aug 02 22:40
XRevan86	cubexyz: I thought you meant tty before	Aug 02 22:41
cubexyz	there's setfont for console fonts which I do use sometimes	Aug 02 22:42
cubexyz	the romanization I found for мент was ment rather than myent	Aug 02 22:45
XRevan86	cubexyz: IPA for the word is [mʲent]	Aug 02 22:46
XRevan86	cubexyz: One can approximate mʲ differently	Aug 02 22:48
cubexyz	how do you type the m with j subscript?	Aug 02 22:48
XRevan86	cubexyz: copypaste (:	Aug 02 22:48
XRevan86	it tells that the consonant is softened	Aug 02 22:50
cubexyz	ɱ	Aug 02 22:50
cubexyz	oops	Aug 02 22:50
XRevan86	to approximate that one can type "mj" or "my" (because in English "j" means a different sound that in Latin, etc.)	Aug 02 22:50
XRevan86	or to just drop the softening – "m"	Aug 02 22:51
XRevan86	ment, mjent, myent	Aug 02 22:51
cubexyz	ah I see	Aug 02 22:51
XRevan86	or, as MinceR previously pointed out, one can use " m' "	Aug 02 22:51
XRevan86	but that will likely be misunderstood, it usually also implies separation	Aug 02 22:52
XRevan86	Most consonants are paired like that in Russian	Aug 02 22:54
XRevan86	but in spelling it's actually the vowels that are paired	Aug 02 22:55
XRevan86	у – ю, э – е, а – я	Aug 02 22:55
XRevan86	мат – [mat]; мята – [ˈmʲatə]	Aug 02 22:57
XRevan86	cubexyz: I've seen someone claim that Russian has a very dark "L"	Aug 02 23:00
XRevan86	I'm not sure what that means, but thing is – Russian has two Ls	Aug 02 23:01
XRevan86	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Ru-луна.ogg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Ru-люди.ogg	Aug 02 23:03
cubexyz	U1234	Aug 02 23:05
cubexyz	bah	Aug 02 23:05
cubexyz	there's also an input method for IPA in xchat but I don't know how to use it	Aug 02 23:08
XRevan86	cubexyz: I copied it all from Wiktionary	Aug 02 23:08
cubexyz	I think IPA then shift does something	Aug 02 23:10
cubexyz	xchat calls opera for help??	Aug 02 23:14
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cubexyz	well I can't seem to find any luminescence on how to use IPA	Aug 02 23:17
cubexyz	ɑ	Aug 02 23:21
cubexyz	ɱ	Aug 02 23:22
cubexyz	ok... that's the IPA for vd labiodental nasal	Aug 02 23:22
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XRevan86	cubexyz: Well, it's a pretty complicated thing	Aug 02 23:29
XRevan86	cubexyz: I'm not self-aware enough to reliably produce IPA on the go :)	Aug 02 23:29
cubexyz	ⱼ	Aug 02 23:31
cubexyz	mⱼ	Aug 02 23:31
cubexyz	there I did it :)	Aug 02 23:31
cubexyz	latin subscript small letter j	Aug 02 23:32
XRevan86	cubexyz: … the other way :)	Aug 02 23:32
XRevan86	it's supposed to be… surscript? superscript?	Aug 02 23:32
cubexyz	latin _subscript_ small letter j	Aug 02 23:32
XRevan86	ⱼʲ	Aug 02 23:32
cubexyz	U+2c7c	Aug 02 23:33
cubexyz	it's really awkward to do though	Aug 02 23:33
XRevan86	U+02b2	Aug 02 23:33
cubexyz	ʲ	Aug 02 23:33
cubexyz	that's a superscript yes :)	Aug 02 23:33
XRevan86	that's the one	Aug 02 23:33
cubexyz	was it supposed to be a superscript?	Aug 02 23:34
XRevan86	cubexyz: yes	Aug 02 23:34
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatalization_(phonetics)#Transcription	Aug 02 23:34
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cubexyz	ok	Aug 02 23:34
cubexyz	mʲ	Aug 02 23:34
cubexyz	some stuff (like IPA in hexedit/xhcat) just isn't documented	Aug 02 23:39
cubexyz	запутанным	Aug 02 23:43
XRevan86	cubexyz: Instrumental case?	Aug 02 23:45
XRevan86	IPA кажется запутанным?	Aug 02 23:45
cubexyz	yes	Aug 02 23:50
XRevan86	cubexyz: It sure is :)	Aug 02 23:50
cubexyz	at least now I can clipboard the cyrillic to other computers	Aug 02 23:50
XRevan86	cubexyz: Τβοια πραβδα	Aug 02 23:56
cubexyz	I can't seem to translate that... do I read prada?	Aug 03 00:01
XRevan86	cubexyz: Tvoja pravda :)	Aug 03 00:02
cubexyz	that isn't going to happen any time soon	Aug 03 00:02
XRevan86	Thy truth	Aug 03 00:02
cubexyz	maybe I could read the chess column	Aug 03 00:03
XRevan86	I just spelled this Russian phrase in Byzantine / Modern Greek	Aug 03 00:03
XRevan86	alphabet	Aug 03 00:03
cubexyz	oh I see	Aug 03 00:04
XRevan86	cubexyz: Just to annoy you with another alphabet :P	Aug 03 00:04
XRevan86	Byzantin-ish thing here is of course the βητα letter	Aug 03 00:06
XRevan86	as not beta but vita	Aug 03 00:06
cubexyz	but Byzantine Greek is very old greek yes?	Aug 03 00:06
cubexyz	like Medieval Greek	Aug 03 00:06
XRevan86	cubexyz: It's the basis for Modern Greek. As I understand it, most pronunciation shifts happened during that time.	Aug 03 00:07
XRevan86	Which is why the Greek basis that was used for Cyrillic is identical to modern Greek.	Aug 03 00:08
XRevan86	βητα – вита (perfect transliteration)	Aug 03 00:09
XRevan86	ζ – з (z, not dz like in Ancient Greek)	Aug 03 00:09
cubexyz	I'll have to make do with http://www.pravdareport.com for now	Aug 03 00:10
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XRevan86	υ – well, that one's complicated	Aug 03 00:10
XRevan86	There's old cyrillic "ѵ" (izhitsa), which comes from "υ"	Aug 03 00:11
XRevan86	and that's modern cyrillic "у" which comes from old cyrillic "ѹ", which comes from Greek "ου" (a digraph to mean "u")	Aug 03 00:12
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*XRevan86 doesn't know why "ѹ" is not a digraph/ligature of "о" and "ѵ"		Aug 03 00:13
XRevan86	cubexyz: What about pravdareport.com?	Aug 03 00:13
cubexyz	just there's an english version	Aug 03 00:14
XRevan86	I don't know much about pravda.ru	Aug 03 00:14
XRevan86	never read it	Aug 03 00:14
cubexyz	what do you read?	Aug 03 00:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: zona.media, newsru.com, meduza.io	Aug 03 00:15
XRevan86	cubexyz: pravda.ru is apparently pro-Kremlin	Aug 03 00:17
*cubexyz nods		Aug 03 00:20
XRevan86	cubexyz: Why did you mention it?	Aug 03 00:23
XRevan86	It has nothing to do with the Pravda newspaper for one thing	Aug 03 00:23
cubexyz	google translation mistranslated what you typed earlier :)	Aug 03 00:23
cubexyz	oh well then I'm just off base	Aug 03 00:24
XRevan86	which still exists :)	Aug 03 00:24
XRevan86	https://gazeta-pravda.ru/ here's its website	Aug 03 00:24
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XRevan86	I see they've been through a redesign	Aug 03 00:27
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TweetTuxMachines	How to Install and Configure Sound Themes in Ubuntu	Aug 03 01:20
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cubexyz	XRevan86, the izhitsa didn't seem to show in konsole	Aug 03 01:23
cubexyz	but it showed in xchat	Aug 03 01:23
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TweetTuxMachines	GNOME 3.30 Desktop Environment Enters Beta, Final Release	Aug 03 04:42
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TweetTuxMachines	Proprietary: Opera as Snap on GNU/Linux, Chrome 69 Beta	Aug 03 05:06
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TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS, Lubuntu 16.04.5, and UBports' Ubuntu	Aug 03 05:09
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TweetTuxMachines	Respects Your Freedom certification program continues to	Aug 03 05:32
TweetTuxMachines	grow	Aug 03 05:32
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TweetTuxMachines	Latest #EdgeX IoT middleware release gets smaller,	Aug 03 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	faster, and more secure	Aug 03 05:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025238437513912323	Aug 03 05:43
TweetTuxMachines	Ctrl-Q issue or “are #Firefox developers using Linux at	Aug 03 05:43
TweetTuxMachines	all?”	Aug 03 05:43
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TweetTuxMachines	Open Hardware: Moral Panic and NASA'a Blueprints	Aug 03 06:55
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TweetTuxMachines	Microsoft Entryism/EEE: Canonical, Linux Foundation and	Aug 03 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	Even DebConf18	Aug 03 07:39
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TweetTuxMachines	Programming: Kotlin vs Java, PHP 7.3.0 Now in Beta	Aug 03 07:55
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TweetTuxMachines	5 of the Best #Linux #Games to Play in 2018	Aug 03 08:21
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TweetTuxMachines	A Look At The #ClearLinux Performance For July 2018	Aug 03 09:25
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TweetTuxMachines	KDE: Assistant on #KDE Plasma, Engineering Plasma,	Aug 03 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	#GammaRay 2.9.1 and #Akademy	Aug 03 09:29
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TweetTuxMachines	Podcasts: PodCTL, Tim O’Reilly and Ubuntu Podcast	Aug 03 09:31
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TweetTuxMachines	Why I still love Alpine for email at the Linux terminal	Aug 03 09:42
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TweetTuxMachines	Squashing inclusivity bugs in open source software	Aug 03 10:03
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schestowitz	Just over a year ago #Assange said that he had cried over an issue related to speech, putting aside physical pain (dental and others); I would not be surprised if he sobbed several times during his offline/isolation period; we’re all just human. Be humane, @lenin - remember where you are.	Aug 03 13:28
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schestowitz	oh, they're back	Aug 03 13:33
schestowitz	dang	Aug 03 13:33
XRevan86	Unbelievable persistence.	Aug 03 13:40
schestowitz	yup, 3 days	Aug 03 13:43
schestowitz	they'll finish at some stage	Aug 03 13:43
schestowitz	but clearly not yet	Aug 03 13:44
MinceR	schestowitz: it's amusing how some of the retards in EPP start to realize what they've been assisting for over 8 years	Aug 03 13:44
MinceR	i don't see why people support supposed leaders whose reaction time exceeds 8 years	Aug 03 13:44
MinceR	maybe those people should be shown off in cages as an example of a weird offshoot of human evolution that produced the slowest reacting organism on earth	Aug 03 13:45
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MinceR	https://files.catbox.moe/z345t6.png	Aug 03 17:55
XRevan86	MinceR: An obvious problem for sales	Aug 03 17:56
XRevan86	MinceR: No one would dare to move the cat.	Aug 03 17:56
MinceR	:>	Aug 03 17:57
MinceR	could be moved with the topmost bed	Aug 03 17:57
XRevan86	MinceR: But then the cat will wake up	Aug 03 17:57
MinceR	then the cat can be pet back to sleep	Aug 03 17:58
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XRevan86	MinceR: Did he really say that?	Aug 04 00:21
MinceR	¯\_(ツ)_/¯	Aug 04 00:21
MinceR	XRevan86: like Abraham Lincoln said: "Don't believe everything you read in the Internet."	Aug 04 00:23
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XRevan86	MinceR: Wise man he was.	Aug 04 00:59
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/dont-believe-everything.jpg	Aug 04 01:06
MinceR	:)	Aug 04 01:09
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oiaohm_	MinceR: the openrc presentation and debian conf 2018 include something intresting. A plan to support systemd unit files.	Aug 04 01:45
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MinceR	ew	Aug 04 01:46
MinceR	will it also emulate systemd bugs?	Aug 04 01:46
oiaohm	You have to remember openrc already supports bsd rc and sysvinit and a few other init system formats.	Aug 04 01:47
oiaohm	and it did not change their core operation design.	Aug 04 01:47
oiaohm	MinceR: so support systemd unit files does not mean having to copy systemd design bugs. Does mean that packages that only have systemd unit files will work if you use openrc once it done.	Aug 04 01:49
oiaohm	MinceR: basically same reason why systemd had to have sysvinit support to allow smooth transition.	Aug 04 01:50
MinceR	unless the unit file format itself is a bug	Aug 04 01:50
MinceR	systemd handled its unit files incorrectly when it was already declared stable	Aug 04 01:50
oiaohm	I guess you are talking about systemd caching unit files in memory.	Aug 04 01:52
oiaohm	openrc plan does not include that.	Aug 04 01:52
MinceR	that was one	Aug 04 01:52
MinceR	another was the username starting with a digit one	Aug 04 01:52
MinceR	funny, openrc may well end up supporting cancerd's unit files better than cancerd itself does	Aug 04 01:53
XRevan86	oiaohm: But there are so many properties	Aug 04 01:53
XRevan86	And networkd, timers…	Aug 04 01:54
XRevan86	oiaohm: I guess the implementation will be limited.	Aug 04 01:54
MinceR	see, it's just like trying to support a microsoft office file format	Aug 04 01:55
oiaohm	XRevan86: the unit files processing turn out to be less than 10000 lines of C doing everything.	Aug 04 01:55
XRevan86	oiaohm: I bet they ignore a lot	Aug 04 01:56
oiaohm	MinceR: not exactly like supporting Microsoft Office format. 1 you can look inside the source code with systemd in case of oddness. 2 Microsoft office documentation on its format is full of bugs as well.	Aug 04 01:56
XRevan86	MinceR: Well, systemd aren't ugly	Aug 04 01:56
XRevan86	oops	Aug 04 01:57
XRevan86	I mean, units	Aug 04 01:57
XRevan86	the unit format	Aug 04 01:57
MinceR	not sure about that	Aug 04 01:57
MinceR	if you need some custom logic, it quickly becomes horrible	Aug 04 01:57
XRevan86	MinceR: But it is similar in that vein that it is a reflection of systemd	Aug 04 01:58
oiaohm	The bare min from prototype is less than 1000 lines. Enough todo the dependancies and run the units skipping out a lot of the security stuff.	Aug 04 01:58
XRevan86	MinceR: So to implement them to their fullest one has to implement every little feature systemd has.	Aug 04 01:59
MinceR	yay	Aug 04 01:59
XRevan86	the only explanation I have is that openrc will just ignore all that stuff	Aug 04 02:00
oiaohm	Lot of what systemd unit files does in configuration of the cgroup system.	Aug 04 02:00
oiaohm	cgroup/namespace	Aug 04 02:00
XRevan86	Yo dawg, I heard you want to trigger this socket after the daemon is up. Tough.	Aug 04 02:00
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MinceR	it will only cause pain and trouble	Aug 04 02:01
oiaohm	XRevan86: BSD rc already had that.	Aug 04 02:01
oiaohm	XRevan86: openrc had to implement trigger socket for BSD rc feature.	Aug 04 02:01
oiaohm	XRevan86: openrc is not just sysviit based its based on about 3 different init systems from the start. So it features are already quite broad.	Aug 04 02:02
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XRevan86	oiaohm: I'm still pretty sure they don't have everything for full support	Aug 04 02:03
oiaohm	XRevan86: the big thing that is not work yet fully in openrc that is on its road map is full namespace/cgroup support.	Aug 04 02:04
MinceR	if they do, red hat will keep adding stuff until they don't :>	Aug 04 02:04
XRevan86	oiaohm: For one thing, they don't have timers.	Aug 04 02:04
XRevan86	MinceR: There's truth in that.	Aug 04 02:04
XRevan86	systemd is not going to stop adding new properties.	Aug 04 02:04
oiaohm	XRevan86: really openrc is likely to turn timers into improved cron entries.	Aug 04 02:06
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18030916	Aug 04 02:06
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XRevan86	Maybe tomorrow systemd will get some machined integration into units	Aug 04 02:07
oiaohm	XRevan86: portable services on systemd.	Aug 04 02:07
XRevan86	oiaohm: That won't be easy.	Aug 04 02:08
MinceR	they don't do 'portable'	Aug 04 02:09
MinceR	though maybe they'll make an exception for their beloved microsoft	Aug 04 02:09
XRevan86	oiaohm: timers can be triggered more complicatedly than cronjobs	Aug 04 02:10
XRevan86	oiaohm: openrc will just have to reimplement timers within itself	Aug 04 02:11
XRevan86	for the level of flexibility / service integration required	Aug 04 02:11
cubexyz	techrights-2018.log :)	Aug 04 02:12
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XRevan86	oiaohm: And the reason why I bring up timers is because they are actually very widely used. It's the one feature that will be hard to achieve that is actually very needed for a systemd service reimplementation.	Aug 04 02:14
cubexyz	the log is at http://www.maxhost.org/other/techrights-2018.jpg	Aug 04 02:15
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cubexyz	duh	Aug 04 02:15
XRevan86	Apart from the basics of course.	Aug 04 02:15
cubexyz	the log is at http://www.maxhost.org/other/techrights-2018.log	Aug 04 02:15
oiaohm	XRevan86: there are about 2 other init system used in embedded that reimplemented systemd unit files and most of the timer usage is not complex.	Aug 04 02:15
XRevan86	oiaohm: I haven't heard of them.	Aug 04 02:16
XRevan86	What are they?	Aug 04 02:16
cubexyz	I wonder how many pages 11 megs of text is	Aug 04 02:18
cubexyz	over 2,000 I reckon :)	Aug 04 02:19
cubexyz	2,000+ pages of quality discussion	Aug 04 02:19
oiaohm	XRevan86: 1 is absolutely not suitable for server is pure IOT it takes the init system unit files and makes a single C file init/timer program. Very fast to start system secruity scary.	Aug 04 02:20
oiaohm	XRevan86: server/desktop	Aug 04 02:20
XRevan86	oiaohm: I think I wouldn't put something like that on embedded either	Aug 04 02:21
XRevan86	I'd rather have runit or whatever openwrt has	Aug 04 02:22
XRevan86	and write the bloody initialisation myself	Aug 04 02:22
XRevan86	oiaohm: So… I think a project like that can only be good as proof-of-concept	Aug 04 02:23
XRevan86	oiaohm: And POC can only be good if one can check out the code :)	Aug 04 02:24
XRevan86	oiaohm: What's the name of the project again? I promise I won't use it on a server	Aug 04 02:24
XRevan86	or a desktop	Aug 04 02:25
oiaohm	XRevan86: both of the ones I am thinking of the built to C is gone from github and https://solettaproject.org/ this one has gone end of life.	Aug 04 02:28
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oiaohm	XRevan86: but they both proved doing systemd unit files was possible.	Aug 04 02:28
cubexyz	you still should have a choice of using systemd or not	Aug 04 02:29
cubexyz	the way things are going we are losing that choice	Aug 04 02:30
MinceR	systemd already proved that	Aug 04 02:30
XRevan86	oiaohm: Their fate raises red flags	Aug 04 02:30
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oiaohm	XRevan86: not really both only support systemd unit files and were targeted at only IOT usage.	Aug 04 02:36
oiaohm	XRevan86: IOT init systems die really commonly	Aug 04 02:36
oiaohm	XRevan86: as in IOT init system projects die really commonlly Those making IOT have a habit of making stuff and moving on with no long term maintaince.	Aug 04 02:37
oiaohm	XRevan86: I did a rough count at dec 2017 I found about 2000 IOT only init systems created in 2017 and also give up on in the same year in products being shipped to consumers.	Aug 04 02:38
MinceR	a good match for the CADT development model	Aug 04 02:38
oiaohm	MinceR: yep IOT is fairly much CADT. Lot of start ups make devices with staff under 20 years old.	Aug 04 02:40
oiaohm	MinceR: so CADT correct name of problem.	Aug 04 02:40
oiaohm	They are useful for seeing what is possible. Of course something being developed in IOT CADT area cannot be deployed in a major distribution like debian.	Aug 04 02:41
oiaohm	Because they have no long term maintaince at all.	Aug 04 02:41
MinceR	something developed in Idiot CADT area already was, though	Aug 04 02:41
cubexyz	ok, I'm assuming CADT stands for Cascade of Attention-Deficit Teenagers in this case	Aug 04 02:42
MinceR	indeed	Aug 04 02:42
cubexyz	not Competence Analysis & Development Tool :)	Aug 04 02:42
oiaohm	cubexyz: in some cases both. Competence Analysis & Development Tool could be used. And due to limitation production to save on power usage they have optimised the heck out the init.	Aug 04 02:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: doing horrible scary unmaintainable thing.	Aug 04 02:44
cubexyz	there are a lot of what I would call orphan programs	Aug 04 02:45
oiaohm	cubexyz: I would not exactly say orphan that says the thing has some prospect of long term life.	Aug 04 02:46
oiaohm	cubexyz: a lot these IOT stuff its fairly much going to be still born with no possiblity of long term life.	Aug 04 02:46
oiaohm	Closed source IOT is just as bad so its not a open source thing.	Aug 04 02:47
cubexyz	planned obsolescence or just no long term planning of any sort	Aug 04 02:47
oiaohm	More what has the most profit marging.	Aug 04 02:48
oiaohm	Make product, ship product. Provide no support more profit.	Aug 04 02:48
oiaohm	Please note some of these start ups are more evil. start company, Make product, ship product, when problems turn up end company then rinse and repeat.	Aug 04 02:49
oiaohm	So its not only the support for the programs they kill.	Aug 04 02:50
cubexyz	Packard wrote about this ages ago, but he didn't talk about computer software	Aug 04 02:50
oiaohm	Really if openrc grows systemd unit support that works as planned this will open up debate again at debian over what sould be the default init system.	Aug 04 02:51
oiaohm	The battle between Linux init systems seam to work on EEE Embrace, extend, and extinguish	Aug 04 02:54
oiaohm	That being a init system that will come dominated(there was a linux init system used before sysvinit) Embrace the feature of prior init system (systemd sysv generator, sysvinit supported scripts that the prior to it had). Extend as in add new features, Then finally the old one dies out.	Aug 04 02:56
cubexyz	there's no shortage of alternative init systems	Aug 04 02:58
cubexyz	or even udev alternatives	Aug 04 02:59
cubexyz	thanks to gentoo we have eudev for slackware	Aug 04 03:00
cubexyz	if you recall udev was merged into systemd and that got people worried	Aug 04 03:00
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cubexyz	the main alternatives are in the slackware branch and the gentoo branch	Aug 04 03:03
cubexyz	or go BSD.. which can be a bit difficult	Aug 04 03:03
cubexyz	btw oiaohm I figured out how to rescan the scsi bus	Aug 04 03:10
cubexyz	for old scsi scanners, if you boot up and they're not turned on linux doesn't see it	Aug 04 03:11
MinceR	> this will open up debate again at debian	Aug 04 03:14
MinceR	yeah, until don armstrong silences it again	Aug 04 03:14
oiaohm	He left it open to be reopened in future.	Aug 04 03:18
MinceR	after they make sure it will be extremely costly to switch to anything from systemd	Aug 04 03:18
oiaohm	sysvinit had been doing the same thing.	Aug 04 03:19
MinceR	sysvinit's interfaces remained simple	Aug 04 03:19
oiaohm	Really	Aug 04 03:19
MinceR	cancerd added gratuitous dbugs APIs	Aug 04 03:19
MinceR	cancerd also tried to change just about everything about how processes are managed on unix	Aug 04 03:20
oiaohm	Sysvinit looks simple while you look at the sysvinit package. Not when you look at all the parts you had to have to have a working system.	Aug 04 03:21
MinceR	also, they'll have to deal with broken software such as gnome which has dependencies on cancerd	Aug 04 03:21
oiaohm	Broken software causing issues existed before systemd.	Aug 04 03:21
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MinceR	and systemd took it to the next level	Aug 04 03:21
oiaohm	Also Unix does not have 1 defined way of managing services.	Aug 04 03:21
MinceR	Extend, Embrace, Extinguish	Aug 04 03:21
MinceR	oops	Aug 04 03:21
MinceR	Embrace, Extend, Extinguish	Aug 04 03:22
oiaohm	Zones in Solaris, AIX wrappers.	Aug 04 03:22
MinceR	zones are containers, not service management	Aug 04 03:22
oiaohm	Zones are used by SMF	Aug 04 03:22
cubexyz	is solaris still maintained?	Aug 04 03:22
MinceR	that's because SMF has scope creep as well	Aug 04 03:22
oiaohm	AIX wrappers are using by AIX init systems	Aug 04 03:22
MinceR	does anyone still use AIX?	Aug 04 03:23
oiaohm	HPUX include wrappers around their services in 1975	Aug 04 03:23
MinceR	though considering there still are people dumb enough to use clearcase and clearquest, why not...	Aug 04 03:23
oiaohm	In there prototypes.	Aug 04 03:23
cubexyz	umm, no :)	Aug 04 03:23
cubexyz	1975 was the Unix v6 era	Aug 04 03:23
oiaohm	Opps	Aug 04 03:23
oiaohm	1985	Aug 04 03:24
oiaohm	So 5 years before Linux we started seeing container like stuff around services appearing.	Aug 04 03:24
oiaohm	Also having own unique dbus like system was also common with many of the closed source unix for talking to their init systems.	Aug 04 03:25
oiaohm	MinceR: sorry saying what systemd is doing is not Unix like is highly wrong.	Aug 04 03:25
MinceR	oiaohm: sorry, late slowlaris does not get to define on its own what unix is.	Aug 04 03:27
oiaohm	MinceR: what about HPUX and AIX and other closed source unix doing related things.	Aug 04 03:27
MinceR	the same thing	Aug 04 03:27
MinceR	these things came well after Unix itself was already established	Aug 04 03:28
MinceR	and afaik the people who designed Unix did not work on these offshoots	Aug 04 03:28
MinceR	they worked on at&t unix, research unix, plan9	Aug 04 03:28
cubexyz	that's right	Aug 04 03:28
MinceR	just because a bunch of suits come out of a woodwork and fuck up a design doesn't mean we have to keep their fuckups around	Aug 04 03:29
MinceR	s/of a/of the/	Aug 04 03:29
MinceR	s/uck/ucked/	Aug 04 03:29
cubexyz	very unlikely that the original Unix programmers would be using HPUX or AIX now	Aug 04 03:31
oiaohm	MinceR: At&t unix is sysvinit style. research unix is BSD rc init style. and plan 9 has it own.	Aug 04 03:31
oiaohm	MinceR: dispute over how init should be done started really early.	Aug 04 03:32
oiaohm	MinceR: research unix was the first with auto dependency resolve.	Aug 04 03:33
MinceR	which one was the first to try and do everything in init?	Aug 04 03:33
cubexyz	what happened was very convoluted	Aug 04 03:33
oiaohm	cubexyz: agree there was a lot of improvements on auto dependancy solve getting to modern day bsd rc.	Aug 04 03:34
cubexyz	Apple even played around with Unix early on with A/UX which surely died on the vine	Aug 04 03:34
oiaohm	MinceR: that would be the first Unix that was using PID1 to start everything.	Aug 04 03:35
oiaohm	MinceR: and that was a pure C file no scripts.	Aug 04 03:35
oiaohm	MinceR: yes to change boot up it was modify the C file and rebuild the PID1 binary. That got old really quickly.	Aug 04 03:36
MinceR	_start_ everything, not _do_ everything.	Aug 04 03:36
MinceR	funny, having to modify a file and recompile it to change how things boot has gotten awfully popular lately	Aug 04 03:37
MinceR	even haiku is doing it	Aug 04 03:37
cubexyz	I'm not even sure what Unix v8 did for init to be honest	Aug 04 03:37
cubexyz	I think it was related to Berkeley Unix 4.3 though	Aug 04 03:38
oiaohm	MinceR: the first game why computer mouse is nameed mouse run as PID1.	Aug 04 03:38
oiaohm	MinceR: that is also when PID1 was used to start every and possiblely even be a game.	Aug 04 03:38
oiaohm	who cares about user security.	Aug 04 03:39
oiaohm	back then	Aug 04 03:39
MinceR	or now	Aug 04 03:39
oiaohm	Humans don't change that much.	Aug 04 03:39
MinceR	or learn	Aug 04 03:39
oiaohm	We have habits of going around in very large circles and pretending that what we are doing now is new when it what we we doing like 30 years ago.	Aug 04 03:39
oiaohm	fashion history shows it a lot.	Aug 04 03:41
cubexyz	maybe openbsd for server and slackware/gentoo for general desktop	Aug 04 03:41
cubexyz	heck, there's slackware for IBM mainframes now	Aug 04 03:43
oiaohm	Remember sysvinit is the secound init system for Linux. Slackware has it own unique beast going back to the first distribution.	Aug 04 03:44
cubexyz	Sun used to mail out Solaris DVDs for free	Aug 04 03:45
oiaohm	slackware init->sysvinit->systemd->openrc could be the path. With even release being the good one.	Aug 04 03:45
cubexyz	back before Oracle got them in their clutches	Aug 04 03:45
MinceR	unlikely	Aug 04 03:45
MinceR	they'll have to unfuck many things they fucked up to lock systemd in place	Aug 04 03:45
oiaohm	Exactly what is locking systemd in place.	Aug 04 03:46
MinceR	like i said, dbugs APIs and gnome	Aug 04 03:46
oiaohm	Please don't say gnome. consolekit2 has gnome working in BSD	Aug 04 03:46
oiaohm	and other distributions without systemd.	Aug 04 03:46
oiaohm	Heck dbus-broker is faster than the old dbus deamon.	Aug 04 03:47
MinceR	yeah, non-gnome people have patched gnome	Aug 04 03:47
oiaohm	No unpatched.	Aug 04 03:47
MinceR	and you can build kde5 without the systemd-dependent parts apparently	Aug 04 03:47
oiaohm	Turns out gnome does not use any systemd particular.	Aug 04 03:48
oiaohm	other than logind interfaces that consolekit2 provides.	Aug 04 03:48
MinceR	also even though openrc is not the malicious mess systemd is, i'm still not convinced i'd want to be locked into it	Aug 04 03:48
oiaohm	What ever wants to take over the default init system has to support what the current defualt init systems service files are or migration is way too hard.	Aug 04 03:50
oiaohm	openrc is one of the few init systems I see that can truly challange systemd.	Aug 04 03:50
oiaohm	I would like to see more that could.	Aug 04 03:50
MinceR	maybe ratcrap will put DRM in the unit files to make it more difficult :>	Aug 04 03:51
oiaohm	Please note lack of configuration files for services is what made runit and other init attempts fail.	Aug 04 03:51
oiaohm	upstart almost beat system and would have if there had not been that CLA problem.	Aug 04 03:52
oiaohm	Please note upstart suppoted the older sysvinit files as well. Systemd was not getting off the ground until it generator for sysvinit at least some what worked.	Aug 04 03:52
MinceR	runit and all the others had configuration files for services, of course	Aug 04 03:52
MinceR	and upstart is a shitty design, eclipsed only by cancerd	Aug 04 03:53
oiaohm	MinceR: for all services in a distribution runit did not.	Aug 04 03:53
oiaohm	MinceR: that is the barrior to coming the default init system.	Aug 04 03:53
MinceR	so i write a service, don't write a unit file for it, put it in a distro and you'll stop using systemd?	Aug 04 03:54
MinceR	and no, that is not	Aug 04 03:54
MinceR	and there is at least one distro that uses runit as default	Aug 04 03:54
oiaohm	MinceR: how many packages.	Aug 04 03:54
oiaohm	MinceR: you will find it small.	Aug 04 03:55
MinceR	so what?	Aug 04 03:55
oiaohm	MinceR: even today systemd distributions are still using sysinit compadiblity.	Aug 04 03:55
oiaohm	Because not all packages have systemd unit files.	Aug 04 03:55
MinceR	is there a limit built into runit to how many packages your distro is allowed to have?	Aug 04 03:55
oiaohm	MinceR: the issue is getting upstream to support new init system or maintainers to write correctly new service scripts.	Aug 04 03:57
oiaohm	MinceR: the problem is workload.	Aug 04 03:57
MinceR	yeah, i've heard that tale before	Aug 04 03:58
oiaohm	Openrc supporting sysvinit, bsd rc and few others and add on systemd. This means you have the least work because you can use the most upstream stuff.	Aug 04 03:58
oiaohm	Problem is not a tale.	Aug 04 03:59
oiaohm	Why sysvinit stayed in place even that it was known broken in many ways was too much workload to change. It was only when upstart appeared with compadiblity did the move to replace sysvinit appear.	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	gnu/linux got started fine without depending on any suits' charity	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	upstart appeared in 2006	Aug 04 04:01
MinceR	runit appeared in 2004	Aug 04 04:01
MinceR	and you're talking out of your ass	Aug 04 04:01
MinceR	daemontools appeared in 2001	Aug 04 04:01
oiaohm	runit and deamontools neither manged to get any major distribution support other than looking at it and putting them both in the too hard basket.	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	who needs a "major distribution"'s support?	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	all they can do is either copy windows and macos or copy another "major distribution"	Aug 04 04:03
oiaohm	Major distribution has funded developers who normally put patches and maintaince into upstream projects.	Aug 04 04:03
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MinceR	and then drove the whole thing into the ground	Aug 04 04:04
oiaohm	So without major distribution support of what you distribution your workload is going to be way higher and this limits the features/packages your distribution can bundle.	Aug 04 04:04
MinceR	now we have ubuntu which is a parody of its old self, even though the old versions weren't all that great either	Aug 04 04:04
MinceR	the "upgrade" to the newer LTS release resulted in the package database breaking	Aug 04 04:05
MinceR	installing the newer release resulted in a system that forgot to start the display manager	Aug 04 04:05
MinceR	i keep seeing services fail to start or stop, and the occasional freeze on shutdown	Aug 04 04:05
MinceR	thanks, but i'll stick with the amateurs you look down on and hate who can actually build an OS that can be used for something	Aug 04 04:06
MinceR	i'll leave the money worship to other people.	Aug 04 04:06
oiaohm	Please note I don't use ubuntu I use debian.	Aug 04 04:06
oiaohm	Debian testing has less issues than Ubuntu LTS.	Aug 04 04:07
MinceR	they have me use ubuntu at my work	Aug 04 04:07
MinceR	i wouldn't touch it otherwise	Aug 04 04:07
MinceR	still, it was surprising how hard the switch to systemd fucked it up	Aug 04 04:08
oiaohm	That was the thing debian testing switch to systemd was fairly stable.	Aug 04 04:08
MinceR	also, expect to see more issues as all Lendows distributions converge at fedora	Aug 04 04:08
MinceR	for you, maybe	Aug 04 04:08
oiaohm	Ubuntu did something horrible,	Aug 04 04:08
MinceR	other people were less fortunate	Aug 04 04:09
oiaohm	Ubuntu attempted to go from upstart stuff with wrapper to systemd	Aug 04 04:09
MinceR	yeah, funny how even upstart manages to be more reliable than systemd	Aug 04 04:09
oiaohm	Of course Ubuntu wrappers written covered by CLA did not have peer review.	Aug 04 04:09
oiaohm	and are full of bugs.	Aug 04 04:09
MinceR	maybe they should have put someone other than poettering in charge of things	Aug 04 04:10
oiaohm	and you only use those wrappers when you convert from Ubuntu using upstart to systemd. So you have systemd with stack of ubuntu particular broken crap as well.	Aug 04 04:10
oiaohm	systemd is broken enough without extras	Aug 04 04:11
oiaohm	MinceR: lot of people hate poettering. Some of the people working on Ubuntu only parts make poettering look like angel.	Aug 04 04:12
oiaohm	MinceR: remember they are beind a CLA that a lot of companies will not allow their staff to send the Ubuntu developers patches or fixes.	Aug 04 04:12
oiaohm	MinceR: so Ubuntu has a stack of unique annony breaks are that fixed everywhere else.	Aug 04 04:13
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oiaohm	Ubuntu has a lot of marketing.	Aug 04 04:14
oiaohm	and really bad production process.	Aug 04 04:14
MinceR	oiaohm: i know what canonical does	Aug 04 04:16
MinceR	yet redhat makes them look good in comparison	Aug 04 04:16
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oiaohm	Not really redhat with fedora and centos licensing at least allowed third parties to send them fixes to criticial problems.	Aug 04 04:16
oiaohm	and they are able to take in those fixes.	Aug 04 04:17
MinceR	at least upstart tended to work	Aug 04 04:17
oiaohm	except for when it did not.	Aug 04 04:17
MinceR	and at least upstart didn't try to be udev, [x]inetd, crond, atd, syslogd, firewall, bootloader, dns cache, webserver, container provisioner or ntpd	Aug 04 04:18
MinceR	and now both canonical and ratcrap are microsoft fronts, pushing uefi, azure and the patent racket together	Aug 04 04:18
oiaohm	To be correct systemd ntp client does not attempt to replace ntpd.	Aug 04 04:19
oiaohm	There has been a lot of different light wieght ntp clients around before systemd added one.	Aug 04 04:19
MinceR	there have not been a lot of different ntp clients, lightweight or otherwise, that were built into a piece of software that sells itself as an "init system"	Aug 04 04:20
MinceR	there were none built into upstart.	Aug 04 04:20
oiaohm	You missed busybox that has to be the most over built init ever for features.	Aug 04 04:21
MinceR	who calls busybox an "init"?	Aug 04 04:21
oiaohm	MinceR: the busybox binary can in fact be used instead of init binary.	Aug 04 04:22
oiaohm	MinceR: yes when it symlinked as init it functions as init.	Aug 04 04:22
oiaohm	MinceR: it has to be close to the worst kitchen sink init you can get.	Aug 04 04:23
MinceR	i know	Aug 04 04:24
MinceR	and yet it isn't the worst kitchen sink init you can get	Aug 04 04:24
MinceR	nobody is forcing busybox init on you	Aug 04 04:24
MinceR	nobody killed a gnu/linux distribution to force busybox on users	Aug 04 04:25
MinceR	nobody wastes people's time every month advertising busybox init on irc	Aug 04 04:25
oiaohm	MinceR: busybox has embedded runit because sysvinit was so horrible.	Aug 04 04:27
oiaohm	busybox runit is a runit missing a few features.	Aug 04 04:28
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oiaohm	This came up in the debian init debate as well. So you have runit main project and busybox version of runit embedded in busybox.	Aug 04 04:29
oiaohm	Really if runit had won it could have been a real migrain on what one.	Aug 04 04:29
MinceR	ah yes, the "debate" which was decided on the basis of what dependencies gnome was forcing, what the gnome people on red hat's payroll were saying and by silencing dissent	Aug 04 04:30
MinceR	partly by don armstrong	Aug 04 04:30
MinceR	the "debate" in which the debian organization showed itself to be a joke	Aug 04 04:30
MinceR	and in which debian leaders showed that they have no idea what they're doing, but they'll do anything to serve red hat	Aug 04 04:30
oiaohm	No the debate was decide on what ones had functional packages in the repositories.	Aug 04 04:31
oiaohm	sysvint maintainers had not updated to consolekit2	Aug 04 04:31
oiaohm	Heck if you still look at debian mainline packages there is still no consolekit2	Aug 04 04:32
MinceR	thanks, i've seen the excuses	Aug 04 04:32
MinceR	i've seen the pretenses that there just isn't anything other than sysvinit and systemd	Aug 04 04:32
oiaohm	consolekit2 had logind	Aug 04 04:32
MinceR	(even though of course there were others)	Aug 04 04:32
MinceR	i've seen the pretense that for some reason they have to decide very urgently forever	Aug 04 04:33
MinceR	(even though debian was never known for being quick-moving)	Aug 04 04:33
oiaohm	Most of the init system that are not systemd depend on consolekit.	Aug 04 04:33
oiaohm	So having out of date consolekit killed them dead.	Aug 04 04:33
oiaohm	Yet still no one has packaged consolekit2 up.	Aug 04 04:33
MinceR	no, red hat moles killed them dead	Aug 04 04:33
oiaohm	I would say not.	Aug 04 04:34
MinceR	if course you would	Aug 04 04:34
MinceR	s/if/of/	Aug 04 04:34
oiaohm	openrc developers are targeting debian stable this seams insane.	Aug 04 04:34
MinceR	you don't care about users' freedom	Aug 04 04:34
MinceR	you only care about forcing the same broken shit on everyone	Aug 04 04:34
MinceR	no matter what it takes	Aug 04 04:35
MinceR	strange, last time i checked, openrc was a gentoo thing	Aug 04 04:35
oiaohm	MinceR: https://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2018/DebConf18/2018-07-30/openrc-a-featureful-and-hackable-init-sy.webm	Aug 04 04:37
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oiaohm	MinceR: the debate ended on init that openrc was still on the table if/when it matured with debian.	Aug 04 04:38
MinceR	how gracious of them	Aug 04 04:38
MinceR	what i don't get is how openrc is supposed to "mature with debian" when debian has gone from stable to garbage in 1 release	Aug 04 04:38
MinceR	should they fuck up their code so it's down to debian's new standards?	Aug 04 04:39
MinceR	or is this just the new vacuous bullshit red hat marketing cooked up?	Aug 04 04:39
oiaohm	One of the requirement for mature is be able to support over 90% of the distribution packages.	Aug 04 04:39
oiaohm	openrc is progressing in that direction.	Aug 04 04:40
oiaohm	So I see there will be another init debate at debian in the future being openrc vs systemd.	Aug 04 04:40
MinceR	they'll just have to throw out the packages and either replace them with a half-baked reimplementation built into systemd, or assimilate them into systemd	Aug 04 04:41
MinceR	then they can have their distro consists of 1 package	Aug 04 04:41
MinceR	or maybe 2	Aug 04 04:41
MinceR	s/sts/st	Aug 04 04:41
MinceR	/	Aug 04 04:41
MinceR	and then you'll say "oh, openrc doesn't do feature #345345, what a pity, maybe next year!"	Aug 04 04:42
oiaohm	Please note openrc was having issues just using LSB sysvinit scripts. They have got that fixed in the last year.	Aug 04 04:43
oiaohm	systemd had issues but so did openrc at the time of the debate.	Aug 04 04:44
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18033115	Aug 04 04:45
MinceR	but that's fine, as cancerd gets a free pass for everything	Aug 04 04:45
oiaohm	It did not get a free pass for everything. systemd has to fix all their issues before openrc fixes all of theirs or it will loss it place in debian. Heck it might lose it place any how because openrc supports more than the Linux kernel.	Aug 04 04:47
MinceR	and they weren't aware of these issues before they released 2 versions of debian they called "stable"?	Aug 04 04:49
MinceR	just how incompetent are debian people anyway?	Aug 04 04:49
oiaohm	Its like you pretending sysvinit was without its problems.	Aug 04 04:51
oiaohm	systemd got rid of a stack of sysvinit problems and brought in a set of its own.	Aug 04 04:51
oiaohm	Over all less problems.	Aug 04 04:51
oiaohm	Neither was what you would call ideal.	Aug 04 04:51
MinceR	ah yes, counting bugs a la microsoft	Aug 04 04:52
MinceR	bad news: cancerd being much bigger than sysvinit means it even loses the number of bugs contest	Aug 04 04:53
oiaohm	MinceR: that is the stupid part. sysvinit know bugs just for stuff that relates to sysvinit scripts without systemd is more than the bugs found in systemd.	Aug 04 04:53
oiaohm	The existing debian init system before systemd was in horrible broken state.	Aug 04 04:54
MinceR	but they've managed to found one that was more broken and was more difficult to switch from	Aug 04 04:55
MinceR	it's like they couldn't have done worse than this	Aug 04 04:55
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oiaohm	Less broken because the systemd sysvinit generator fixes a lot of the sysvinit script prior issues like not cleanly terminating	Aug 04 04:55
oiaohm	MinceR: basically systemd fixed large set of problems. While bringing a smaller set of problems in.	Aug 04 04:56
MinceR	less broken because [random 1 bug]	Aug 04 04:57
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MinceR	no, systemd brought in a set of massive problems	Aug 04 04:57
MinceR	though i guess you don't mind having your hand forced	Aug 04 04:57
MinceR	and you don't know software engineering	Aug 04 04:57
MinceR	so you don't care	Aug 04 04:57
oiaohm	Sorry I do know software engineering.	Aug 04 04:57
MinceR	but it only begs the question of why aren't you using windows if you like systemd's design so much	Aug 04 04:57
MinceR	and yet you haven't heard of cohesion?	Aug 04 04:58
oiaohm	Lack of cohesion was a sysvinit problem. Where distributions where having to pull updates for udev... from all different project and wake up to the shock horrorr that udev version X did not work sysvinit version y.	Aug 04 04:59
MinceR	you don't even know what cohesion is	Aug 04 05:00
oiaohm	Of course end users were not running into these problem.	Aug 04 05:00
MinceR	and now you're trying to smear sysvinit for bugs in udev	Aug 04 05:00
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oiaohm	MinceR: I do know "Functional cohesion" most people think of this restricted to just a source file.	Aug 04 05:04
oiaohm	What was going on in sysvinit upstream would change something due to lack of functional cohesion this would not be check with the udev upstream or any the other function parts that would have to work with it.	Aug 04 05:05
oiaohm	result is snap for maintainers and maintainers having to go back and patch stuff that they should not have been.	Aug 04 05:06
oiaohm	MinceR: functional cohesion in how software is maintained is important so that QA upstream can be perform successfuly.	Aug 04 05:09
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TweetTuxMachines	Basic Vim Commands Every Linux User Should Know	Aug 04 09:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025656321935372288	Aug 04 09:17
TweetTuxMachines	Arm acquires data management firm and unveils IoT	Aug 04 09:17
TweetTuxMachines	platform https://t.co/85TGlFr7cO (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 09:17
TweetTuxMachines		Aug 04 09:17
*TweetTuxMachines @gurkandroid favourited 'Arm acquires data management firm and unveils IoT...'		Aug 04 09:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025657196133187584	Aug 04 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	Linux on the GPD Pocket 2 (Ubuntu, Debian, and Fedora)	Aug 04 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/D5az7x6Svi (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 09:21
TweetTuxMachines		Aug 04 09:21
schestowitz	> Not linked yet are references to the 1968 massacres of Mexican students.	Aug 04 09:23
schestowitz	> That will have happened 50 years ago this fall. One of my teachers	Aug 04 09:23
schestowitz	> witnessed a group of students get gunned down then. If I recall	Aug 04 09:23
schestowitz	> correctly she mentioned it on the 15th anniversary. It was too abstract	Aug 04 09:23
schestowitz	> then as a teenager to ask more about it and I recall she seemed to want	Aug 04 09:24
schestowitz	> to talk about it but needed prompting to go further.	Aug 04 09:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025657977515192320	Aug 04 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	#Android Leftovers https://t.co/E7BUDX8DUF	Aug 04 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 10:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025673471257403392	Aug 04 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	Extending Landlocked Processes	Aug 04 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rnU1pRZKhy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 10:48
TweetTuxMachines		Aug 04 10:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025685863844532224	Aug 04 11:25
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME: Purism, Flatpak, librsvg and More	Aug 04 11:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zBB1Iyewcv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 11:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025689148865294336	Aug 04 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Defective Hardware, Gentoo's New Protections	Aug 04 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	and Remote Command Execution in Windows Domains	Aug 04 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ppUmQT1CHS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 11:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025692212141727744	Aug 04 11:48
TweetTuxMachines	Games: Xenko, Rise of the Tomb Raider and More	Aug 04 11:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Y4CxGw097l (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 11:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025694845254463488	Aug 04 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	Mystery Donation Lets Elementary Hire Full-Time Staff	Aug 04 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GlSOUwpfir (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 11:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025695477285699586	Aug 04 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	Space Strategy Game ‘Star Ruler 2’ Goes Open Source	Aug 04 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/VKF41amqJZ (error)	Aug 04 13:05
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schestowitz	tessier: sites down, gw not accessible	Aug 04 13:28
schestowitz	seems network-related	Aug 04 13:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025724254057373698	Aug 04 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Aug 04 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KreoYnZClE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 13:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025725234522058752	Aug 04 13:59
TweetTuxMachines	#Debian and #Debconf18 News	Aug 04 13:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5xCF00nL0I (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 13:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025727946441601024	Aug 04 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	Pre-KDE/Akademy Posts	Aug 04 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UEz9YiR8Re (www.tuxmachines.org) #Akademy	Aug 04 14:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025731191431946240	Aug 04 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	#AutoDeb Still Being Worked On For Automatically	Aug 04 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	Generating #Debian Packages	Aug 04 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nYmOKRlIUx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 14:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025734400124829696	Aug 04 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	#LibreELEC 9.0 Alpha Kodi 18 Leia-focused Linux distro	Aug 04 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	for Raspberry Pi and PC is here	Aug 04 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/CpNCMCuo1W (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 14:26
TweetTuxMachines		Aug 04 14:26
*TweetTuxMachines @TheBrendanYears retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LibreELEC 9.0 Alpha Kodi 18 Leia-focused Linux distro...'		Aug 04 14:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025736714088792067	Aug 04 14:42
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat News: Summit Supercomputer, OpenShift and More	Aug 04 14:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LEMHS60DX1 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 14:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025738618474831872	Aug 04 14:44
TweetTuxMachines	Mozilla: Address Bar and More	Aug 04 14:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bn7dRBHMrv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 14:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025739247104483333	Aug 04 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	Software: Text Editor and IDE Apps in AppImage, SDKMAN,	Aug 04 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	Opera Snaps	Aug 04 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/V7tZWWuaY0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 15:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025753863939338241	Aug 04 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	You Can Now Install #LineageOS 15.1 on the	Aug 04 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	First-Generation Google Pixel/Pixel XL	Aug 04 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/J8DSucbDwY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 15:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025757373556838400	Aug 04 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	Open Hardware/Modding: Bluetooth LE (BLE) and Mini Mars	Aug 04 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	Rovers	Aug 04 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OzInfuR2WD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 15:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025757868677648396	Aug 04 16:04
TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Aug 04 16:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NxOCxHeZUo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 16:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025759212142518272	Aug 04 16:07
TweetTuxMachines	Security: 'Secure' Boot, Spectre, and Microsoft Windows	Aug 04 16:07
TweetTuxMachines	Back Doors (Shadow Brokers' WannaCry)	Aug 04 16:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DMbiRxkM96 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 16:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025760119332765697	Aug 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	Server: Kontron, D-R, Istio, 'Serverless', BeeGFS	Aug 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/VWIpGdYzPt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 16:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025760957425954822	Aug 04 16:12
TweetTuxMachines	Desktop: Graphics, Notepadqq, Chromium, Dell’s XPS 13	Aug 04 16:12
TweetTuxMachines	Developer Edition	Aug 04 16:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8F1DKRo24i (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 16:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025761304408150016	Aug 04 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Aug 04 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dVbEwA984Q (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 16:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1025763179350122498	Aug 04 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	Links 4/8/2018: Debconf18 Roundups and Google's FOSS	Aug 04 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	Policy https://t.co/3QbK2EMCZ6 (techrights.org)	Aug 04 16:25
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TweetTuxMachines	NSA’s Encryption Algorithm in Linux Kernel is Creating	Aug 04 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	Unease in the Community	Aug 04 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/635Iv1zpYw (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 17:08
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TweetTuxMachines	Graphics: AMDVLK and Mesa	Aug 04 17:16
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schestowitz	MinceR: looks like they masturbate to the antham	Aug 04 18:33
schestowitz	otherwise I just don't get it	Aug 04 18:33
MinceR	exactly	Aug 04 18:34
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MinceR	murukah, fuck yeah	Aug 04 18:34
schestowitz	they're a powerful country	Aug 04 18:35
schestowitz	but power and brightness aren't the same thing	Aug 04 18:35
MinceR	they're working on fixing that	Aug 04 18:35
schestowitz	fixing debt, no	Aug 04 18:36
schestowitz	fixing that, maybe	Aug 04 18:36
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18032945	Aug 04 18:36
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schestowitz	20 trillion in debt to run an expire post ww2 when europe was rubble	Aug 04 18:36
MinceR	they'll replace their workforce with 100% brainwashed religious fanatics without any knowledge or skills	Aug 04 18:37
MinceR	and once their economy collapses, they'll default on their debt	Aug 04 18:37
MinceR	if the human species lasts long enough	Aug 04 18:37
schestowitz	it is dangerous	Aug 04 18:37
schestowitz	austerity caused brexit vote here, in US they voted Agent Orange	Aug 04 18:38
schestowitz	now they look what race/nations (Latinos/China) to blame	Aug 04 18:38
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XRevan86	What exactly is austerity?	Aug 04 18:52
XRevan86	in politics that is	Aug 04 18:52
MinceR	reducing government spending	Aug 04 19:07
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18032931	Aug 04 19:19
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XRevan86	MinceR: I see.	Aug 04 19:20
XRevan86	https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnewsru.com%2Frussia%2F04aug2018%2Fseagal_mid.html	Aug 04 19:27
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XRevan86	MinceR: Finally, Windows XP is paying off	Aug 04 19:29
MinceR	lol	Aug 04 19:30
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18032930	Aug 04 20:22
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18032928	Aug 04 20:45
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DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Translation?	Aug 04 21:06
DaemonFC[m]	Of the ATM message in MS Paint.	Aug 04 21:06
MinceR	"ATM does not work"	Aug 04 21:06
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DaemonFC[m]	That's one of the things I can't stand about Chicago. I feel like a minority as an English speaker.	Aug 04 21:07
DaemonFC[m]	I think that learning English should be an immigration requirement. At least Basic English.	Aug 04 21:07
DaemonFC[m]	OMG, it's terrible. And every publication from the city government just goes on and on because it's in at least 8 different languages.	Aug 04 21:08
MinceR	skip the nonenglish parts :>	Aug 04 21:09
XRevan86	DaemonFC[m]: The ATM is Russian. Is that the case in Chicago? :)	Aug 04 21:09
DaemonFC[m]	I wonder what I'm paying in taxes to print all of this shit, MinceR	Aug 04 21:09
DaemonFC[m]	In Indiana, it was English and possibly Spanish too.	Aug 04 21:09
MinceR	i doubt they waste your taxes more flagrantly than they waste mine	Aug 04 21:10
MinceR	they build vanity projects like stadia and minirailways nobody will use	Aug 04 21:10
MinceR	they buy themselves shitty but expensive german cars regularly	Aug 04 21:10
MinceR	some of them show off taxpayers' money with helicopters	Aug 04 21:10
MinceR	meanwhile the roads rot away to nothing	Aug 04 21:11
MinceR	public transportation does the same	Aug 04 21:11
MinceR	the press is not free	Aug 04 21:11
DaemonFC[m]	Canada has some requirements and is very tough on immigration.	Aug 04 21:11
DaemonFC[m]	It's fair. Learn the language and prove you aren't going to be a perpetual burden on the system,	Aug 04 21:11
MinceR	i'm in orbanistan, though	Aug 04 21:12
MinceR	also i'm not sure how much Agent Orange threatens canada	Aug 04 21:12
DaemonFC[m]	Meh, tariffs.	Aug 04 21:14
DaemonFC[m]	That's a bigger threat to American living standards than it is to Canada, though.	Aug 04 21:14
DaemonFC[m]	Anyone with a brain can see this.	Aug 04 21:14
DaemonFC[m]	25% tariffs on raw materials for everything from Coke cans to cars.	Aug 04 21:15
DaemonFC[m]	NOT GOOD	Aug 04 21:15
MinceR	oh, also, health services are on the verge of collapse and i won't have pension	Aug 04 21:15
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Economists expect about 10-15 job losses in other industries per 1 job created or saved in the US steel and aluminum industry.	Aug 04 21:15
DaemonFC[m]	Not what most people would call a good trade.	Aug 04 21:16
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: That's how it is over there too, though.	Aug 04 21:16
MinceR	it's the deal in the history of deals, maybe ever	Aug 04 21:16
DaemonFC[m]	Social Security gets an automatic 22% cut if nothing is done by 2030.	Aug 04 21:16
MinceR	s/deal/worst &/	Aug 04 21:16
DaemonFC[m]	And health care in the US is a complete disaster.	Aug 04 21:16
DaemonFC[m]	It's not just the obscene prices we pay for health care in the US. It's the shitty results.	Aug 04 21:17
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: And now that everyone has fucking high deductible "managed care".....	Aug 04 21:18
DaemonFC[m]	Well, rationing by any other name.	Aug 04 21:18
DaemonFC[m]	It doesn't pay for you to go to the doctor.	Aug 04 21:18
DaemonFC[m]	You practically have to be hit by a semi truck before you meet your deductible for the year.	Aug 04 21:18
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: It protects you from a whole lot of things that are not very likely to happen, and it also forces you to pay for insurance that you'll never need.	Aug 04 21:19
DaemonFC[m]	Like, it forces men to buy policies with maternity coverage.	Aug 04 21:19
MinceR	well, at least it treats sexes equally, right?	Aug 04 21:20
DaemonFC[m]	Not really, no.	Aug 04 21:20
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Birth control, including tubal ligation, is covered, for women.	Aug 04 21:21
DaemonFC[m]	Men get no vasectomy coverage at all.	Aug 04 21:21
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/1803295	Aug 04 21:21
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MinceR	i see	Aug 04 21:21
DaemonFC[m]	And I think if the insurance money I pay in is buying birth control pills for women, the least they can do is buy condoms for me.	Aug 04 21:22
XRevan86	MinceR: What is that?	Aug 04 21:22
DaemonFC[m]	That would be fair.	Aug 04 21:22
MinceR	XRevan86: used toilet paper	Aug 04 21:22
MinceR	offered for sale	Aug 04 21:22
XRevan86	MinceR: oh	Aug 04 21:22
DaemonFC[m]	No, men get no birth control coverage at all, and women get like dozens of options, temporary or permanent.	Aug 04 21:22
MinceR	maybe Agent Orange and the american taliban will ensure that women don't get those either	Aug 04 21:23
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: I'm all for anything that means fewer pregnancies.	Aug 04 21:24
DaemonFC[m]	We already have millions of people who are unemployable. Mostly prime working age men.	Aug 04 21:24
MinceR	then you'll love ww3 :>	Aug 04 21:24
DaemonFC[m]	And that's before you consider any other reason to stop having so many damned kids.	Aug 04 21:24
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Historically, having millions of unemployable prime working age men has led to war.	Aug 04 21:25
DaemonFC[m]	:)	Aug 04 21:25
MinceR	sterilizing the planet won't need that many prime working age men :>	Aug 04 21:25
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Well, a lot of the problem is caused by women entering the workforce and globalization.	Aug 04 21:26
DaemonFC[m]	It effectively unleashed a torrent of new laborers and then wages collapsed.	Aug 04 21:26
DaemonFC[m]	It used to be pretty standard for one income households to have a middle class life, go on vacation every year, two new cars in the driveway, nice house...	Aug 04 21:27
DaemonFC[m]	Now it takes everything two people can make just to keep the lights on	Aug 04 21:27
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: So there's this car insurance app called Root, and it claims that it can detect how well you drive based on your phone's sensors.	Aug 04 21:29
DaemonFC[m]	I've been riding around in the city bus with it, and although it says they can auto-detect bus rides and filter them out, it shows me about 15% through my "test drive" phase.	Aug 04 21:30
DaemonFC[m]	It offers you a car insurance quote at the end that's "personalized" and they claim they save you money by refusing to write policies to the worst 30% of drivers at all.	Aug 04 21:30
DaemonFC[m]	However, it detects my rides on the bus and says I'm doing a great job and keep it up.	Aug 04 21:30
MinceR	:)	Aug 04 21:31
MinceR	i wish bus drivers in budapest did a great job	Aug 04 21:31
DaemonFC[m]	The reason I'm riding the bus around randomly with this thing on is because if they saw how I drove, they probably wouldn't give me a very good deal at all.	Aug 04 21:31
MinceR	or even tram drivers	Aug 04 21:31
MinceR	but they all act like the stops pop up at unpredictable locations and they have to do emergency braking to stop in the right position	Aug 04 21:32
MinceR	buses also have to drive in corners at maximum speed	Aug 04 21:32
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: I think there's been one hard brake so far.	Aug 04 21:32
MinceR	while they advertise standing places on the bus	Aug 04 21:32
DaemonFC[m]	Out of the last 50 miles on the bus.	Aug 04 21:32
MinceR	trams also accelerate in random jerks	Aug 04 21:32
MinceR	and of course the subway works like the trams do	Aug 04 21:33
DaemonFC[m]	The buses don't accelerate quickly anyway.	Aug 04 21:33
DaemonFC[m]	They can't. They're too big and heavy.	Aug 04 21:33
DaemonFC[m]	See, perfect way to trick the app.	Aug 04 21:33
MinceR	:>	Aug 04 21:33
MinceR	maybe public transportation in budapest needs bucket seats and safety belts	Aug 04 21:34
DaemonFC[m]	It seems that they can't tell the city bus from you driving at all, and they just don't want you to know that.	Aug 04 21:34
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Well, nobody offers me good rates except for Metromile, because 3 years ago, I accidentally scratched a pickup truck at like 1 mph.	Aug 04 21:35
DaemonFC[m]	Doing about $500 (at a shop) worth of damage to it. So naturally, they double my rate and want me to pay an additional $1,300 a year for five years.	Aug 04 21:35
MinceR	great business	Aug 04 21:36
MinceR	for them	Aug 04 21:36
DaemonFC[m]	My advice. If you scratch someone's car, try to settle the matter without bringing insurance into it.	Aug 04 21:36
MinceR	let me guess, this sort of "insurance" is mandatory for you	Aug 04 21:36
DaemonFC[m]	I should have showed her my license and asked if she could go to a shop and get an estimate and agree to be paid by check.	Aug 04 21:36
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Yeah, liability is mandated by law, and now that I have a new car, collision and comprehensive are mandated by the finance company.	Aug 04 21:37
DaemonFC[m]	:)	Aug 04 21:37
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: And with the horrible US health care system and the fact that cars are more expensive than ever, you shouldn't just get minimum coverage on liability anyway.	Aug 04 21:37
DaemonFC[m]	In Illinois, that's $25,000 per person for bodily injury and $50,000 total per accident with $20,000 of property damage.	Aug 04 21:38
DaemonFC[m]	Meaning.....If you rear end someone's $90,000 car and send them to the hospital, you're on the hook for most of it.	Aug 04 21:38
MinceR	it's a fucking racket	Aug 04 21:38
DaemonFC[m]	Meaning that you will need to file bankruptcy to get out of it.	Aug 04 21:39
DaemonFC[m]	It is. And there's so many people driving these stupid luxury cars around	Aug 04 21:39
DaemonFC[m]	Completely overinflated "value".	Aug 04 21:39
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: They're not practical, either.	Aug 04 21:39
DaemonFC[m]	A BMW M3 is $100,000, has a 400 hp engine, and rear wheel drive.	Aug 04 21:40
DaemonFC[m]	Meaning it's very easy to wreck it when there's snow on the ground.	Aug 04 21:40
DaemonFC[m]	Rear wheel drive is a fucking nightmare on ice and snow.	Aug 04 21:40
DaemonFC[m]	That's one of the reasons most cars went FWD in the 80s.	Aug 04 21:41
DaemonFC[m]	I had the Ford Crown Victoria up until last month and it was a bitch to drive in the winter.	Aug 04 21:41
DaemonFC[m]	I mean, I managed to.	Aug 04 21:41
DaemonFC[m]	Even on....less than ideal conditions.	Aug 04 21:41
DaemonFC[m]	Like, a blizzard/white out at night while Indiana didn't do anything to the roads.	Aug 04 21:42
DaemonFC[m]	I went 20 miles an hour from Fort Wayne to Chicago in that crap.	Aug 04 21:42
DaemonFC[m]	Meanwhile, everyone is passing me at 80.	Aug 04 21:42
DaemonFC[m]	I ended up catching up with several of them.....upside down in a ditch. :P	Aug 04 21:42
MinceR	lol	Aug 04 21:42
DaemonFC[m]	State police directing traffic around them.	Aug 04 21:43
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Well, it took me over 6 hours to get home, but we got home.	Aug 04 21:43
DaemonFC[m]	We knew when we were across the state line because when we got to Chicago, the roads were totally clear.	Aug 04 21:44
MinceR	:>	Aug 04 21:44
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DaemonFC[m]	I was talking to the Kia salesman and I said, "Well, I just want a new car. Depreciation is really an on-paper thing to me because it's going to be 15 or more years before I sell it as a clunker to someone else.".	Aug 04 21:46
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DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Basically, what these people who buy new cars every 2 years are doing is throwing away half the money they spent on it and starting over, repeatedly.	Aug 04 21:47
MinceR	yeah	Aug 04 21:47
MinceR	well, got to have a new car :>	Aug 04 21:47
DaemonFC[m]	It's just ridiculous how much depreciation there is in two years.	Aug 04 21:48
MinceR	especially if one of those unreliable brands	Aug 04 21:48
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Well, the Crown Victoria is 23 and mom's driving it now.	Aug 04 21:48
DaemonFC[m]	But it lost half of its original sticker price by 1998.	Aug 04 21:48
DaemonFC[m]	Explain this....	Aug 04 21:48
DaemonFC[m]	Lost half its value with well over 90% of its usable service life left on it.	Aug 04 21:48
MinceR	not shiny enough	Aug 04 21:49
MinceR	can't show it off to the other guys anymore :>	Aug 04 21:49
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Well, the Kia Soul with the Theta II engine are apparently catching fire.	Aug 04 21:49
DaemonFC[m]	But that's not the engine I have in mine.	Aug 04 21:49
DaemonFC[m]	But if I smell smoke, I'm pulling it over. LOL	Aug 04 21:50
MinceR	some bmws also like to burn themselves down	Aug 04 21:50
MinceR	diesel engine with some extra shoddy design	Aug 04 21:50
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DaemonFC[m]	Yeah, Tesla too.	Aug 04 21:51
DaemonFC[m]	Diesel cars are a horrible idea.	Aug 04 21:51
DaemonFC[m]	Except maybe in the south.	Aug 04 21:51
DaemonFC[m]	Diesels don't like to start up in winter. You have to have an engine block heater to get them going.	Aug 04 21:51
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: I'm being extra careful to only use Top Tier gasoline in the Kia.	Aug 04 21:51
DaemonFC[m]	It has one of those gasoline direct injection engines, and if you crap it up, you're in deep shit.	Aug 04 21:51
DaemonFC[m]	AAA did their own independent study between Top Tier gas and discount gasoline from no name stations.	Aug 04 21:52
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DaemonFC[m]	Found that the cheap gas left 19 times the carbon deposits on the intake valves of their test engine.	Aug 04 21:52
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DaemonFC[m]	It's not worth saving a few cents a gallon at the mystery gas station.	Aug 04 21:52
MinceR	diesels used to make sense	Aug 04 21:52
MinceR	but ever since they fell behind gasoline engines, they added hack after hack to try and make them behave like gasoline engines	Aug 04 21:53
MinceR	they still produce more soot, but now they're expensive and unreliable	Aug 04 21:53
DaemonFC[m]	Older engines tolerated carbon buildup better, but still a good idea to get Top Tier gas.	Aug 04 21:53
DaemonFC[m]	It's all I ever used in the Crown Victoria.	Aug 04 21:53
MinceR	and then the germans had this bright idea to program them to cheat at emission tests	Aug 04 21:53
DaemonFC[m]	AAA found that if you already had deposits and switched to Top Tier, it would clean a considerable amount of it off.	Aug 04 21:53
DaemonFC[m]	Had the car stall out once. That was scary. I poured a bottle of that concentrated gumout into it and gassed up and drove it. Never happened again.	Aug 04 21:54
DaemonFC[m]	Kia says do not use fuel system cleaners, except theirs, because it could cause sticky lifters or other problems.	Aug 04 21:55
DaemonFC[m]	But apparently, according to rumor, their additive is actually just Chevron Techron that you can get at Walmart for $5.	Aug 04 21:55
DaemonFC[m]	But the Kia dealers want like $15.	Aug 04 21:55
DaemonFC[m]	I doubt that Techron is going to cause engine problems, because it's the same as the detergent that they put in the gas at Chevron gas stations.	Aug 04 21:56
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DaemonFC[m]	I might substitute the Kia fuel additive that the manual "suggests" if you're not using Top Tier gas for a bottle of Techron every 7,500 miles.	Aug 04 21:59
DaemonFC[m]	I'm using the Top Tier gas but don't want to risk engine getting fouled up.	Aug 04 21:59
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18030345	Aug 04 21:59
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DaemonFC[m]	Hmmm, more news about the housing bubble. Nobody wants to admit there is one, but it seems nobody learned anything from last time.	Aug 04 22:03
DaemonFC[m]	I'm hunkered down with a bond fund that's now paying out 3% guaranteed. The market risk is too much considering where things should really be.	Aug 04 22:04
DaemonFC[m]	So, safe haven assets for now. Buy stocks again when they go on sale.	Aug 04 22:04
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: It's not like T-Notes are going away. The only thing the government does is spend more every year regardless of which party has a majority.	Aug 04 22:05
DaemonFC[m]	:)	Aug 04 22:05
MinceR	btw this potentially affects all diesel engines >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_engine_runaway	Aug 04 22:07
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DaemonFC[m]	CEOs dumping record amounts of stock at a time when their companies are doing record buybacks.	Aug 04 22:07
DaemonFC[m]	Nothing good is coming from this.	Aug 04 22:07
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18032812	Aug 04 22:53
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DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Android Auto needs work.	Aug 04 23:36
DaemonFC[m]	I've had Waze freeze up and require me to unplug my phone and plug it back in.	Aug 04 23:36
DaemonFC[m]	Then it did something and hard froze my Galaxy S8+ the other day. Couldn't even reboot.	Aug 04 23:36
DaemonFC[m]	Plugging it into the car and unplugging it several times eventually made the phone respond again. :/	Aug 04 23:37
DaemonFC[m]	I'm fairly certain the fault is on the phone's side. Samsung does lots of retarded things to Android and then wonders why their customers are super pissed about downmarket phones running rings around them.	Aug 04 23:37
MinceR	:>	Aug 04 23:38
DaemonFC[m]	And why it has to offer $300 incentives to get people to keep buying a new Galaxy phone.	Aug 04 23:38
MinceR	strange, i thought that making their phones of materials that were suboptimal (like glass backs or fully encased in metal) and omitting features like memory card slots would sell their phones just fine	Aug 04 23:39
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: The S8+ has a MicroSD slot.	Aug 04 23:40
MinceR	what a setback	Aug 04 23:40
DaemonFC[m]	It is all glass. I have it in a case though.	Aug 04 23:40
DaemonFC[m]	The cheap cases do as well or better than the expensive ones.	Aug 04 23:40
MinceR	well, at least they don't have those pesky user-replaceable batteries anymore	Aug 04 23:40
DaemonFC[m]	Besides, when you live in Shitcago and your phone is stolen every 8 months....	Aug 04 23:40
MinceR	so if the microcontroller freezes, you can throw the phone away	Aug 04 23:40
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Yeah, the latest Shitcago mugging got John's Galaxy S7.	Aug 04 23:41
DaemonFC[m]	I claimed it on my renter's insurance, but it's lost almost all of its value, so I am looking at maybe getting a $38 check after my $250 deductible.	Aug 04 23:41
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