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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Latest Microsoft Openwashing and Entryism http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122836 [https://pleroma.site/objects/89d649f1-6037-4bd9-8dae-6cb667fdc176] | Apr 15 04:08 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: SELinux in Android and Google Pixel 4/3a http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122837 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6c4147c9-98fd-48ea-a2c5-d4a414ee1336] | Apr 15 04:10 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audio/Video: Open Source Security Podcast, Linux Action News, GNU World Order, Going Linux on Kubuntu (and KDE Project Latte Dock Has Release) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122839 [https://pleroma.site/objects/88b983ea-6f85-4211-a809-1a14b73e197f] | Apr 15 07:54 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian 10 "Buster" Development and LTS Work http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122840 [https://pleroma.site/objects/03ad7f72-321f-4b9b-8b9f-39f0dae0282b] | Apr 15 08:00 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Servers: Hadoop, Amazon Rivals, Red Hat/IBM, Kubernetes, OpenStack and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122841 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6a4a14e7-bf09-4812-adc6-c4f6c1ef7e5c] | Apr 15 08:06 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Foundation: CNCF and LF Deep Learning Foundation Projects http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122842 [https://pleroma.site/objects/49597a96-834e-45f0-84c0-7f1f64fbf626] | Apr 15 08:09 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Review: SolydXK 201902 "Xfce" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122843 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d17ac553-cae3-4867-a9e7-7ec03640a589] | Apr 15 08:11 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open Hardware/Modding and 3-D Printing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122844 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ecb4f377-50e7-4bf1-98ba-8e678f051c65] | Apr 15 08:37 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Collaboration Modality and #OpenAccess http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122845 [https://pleroma.site/objects/90815b1f-1f2e-4a2d-aba5-6259d48643a3] | Apr 15 08:39 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Robot Operating System (ROS2) News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122847 #ros #robotics [https://pleroma.site/objects/efeb3598-ed0e-422d-8426-29f6fa65b59a] | Apr 15 08:46 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Free Software in Web Multimedia http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122848 [https://pleroma.site/objects/334e4b35-1a5c-4afc-849f-941e601f4fb3] | Apr 15 08:48 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/systemdsucks/status/1097073791144992769 | Apr 15 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@systemdsucks: Had to screenshot this 🤣 https://t.co/gf8wxAphWB | Apr 15 08:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@systemdsucks: Had to screenshot this 🤣 https://t.co/gf8wxAphWB | Apr 15 08:49 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Free Software in Cryptocurrency and Blockchain http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122850 [https://pleroma.site/objects/68a442ec-960e-4732-b007-25a8ce5fa1a3] | Apr 15 08:52 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Free Software in #Telecom http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122851 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cf59165d-66b6-49f0-b300-f71e1f422071] | Apr 15 08:54 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #FlexiWAN Adopts an 'Open' Slant http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122852 not sure if #openwashing but is has the symptoms [https://pleroma.site/objects/f341efcd-8162-46fd-b034-7003abf5d341] | Apr 15 08:58 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #GStreamer 1.16 Approaching Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122860 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5152244d-523a-4967-9d8c-a5cf627dc41b] | Apr 15 17:22 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: ExTiX 19.3, Build 190307 based on upcoming Ubuntu 19.04, with Xfce 4.13, Kodi 18.2 “Leia”, Refracta Snapshot, Nvidia graphics driver and kernel 5.0.0-exton http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122861 [https://pleroma.site/objects/718f8428-cadf-4181-adb8-6bbd0b87a17b] | Apr 15 17:25 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1904013 | Apr 15 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 15 17:26 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Free Games Online, "We. The Revolution" and Lots More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122863 [https://pleroma.site/objects/44700288-6ecb-41a0-ae73-88bea7c59dba] | Apr 15 17:27 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Happy 15th Birthday CentOS! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122862 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e4fcb365-c3e3-44b4-a4c3-f3134c6299b6] | Apr 15 17:29 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 12 Single Board Computers: Alternative to Raspberry Pi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122864 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3d13ed7e-72e2-40ac-89f0-e0c23b33110e] | Apr 15 17:34 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19032352 | Apr 15 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 15 17:54 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: React, Firefox 67 Beta 10 Testday Results, and Privacy Rants http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122870 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5e9be6cd-7134-4baa-bf11-318c03e1390d] | Apr 15 18:35 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The future's hiring - but is the tech sector ready? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122873 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e4982c70-b2cd-4a61-bc18-9b6bba757fe2] | Apr 15 19:20 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19033118 | Apr 15 19:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 15 19:26 | |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/BcOynlx.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/UU0mdNy ) | Apr 15 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ears with the fur - Album on Imgur | Apr 15 19:30 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Stack Overflow Developer Survey Followup, Compilers, C and Python http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122877 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4c0c9078-5523-4378-9c93-58aeba890b23] | Apr 15 19:56 | |
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| MinceR | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/04/hackers-could-read-non-corporate-outlook-comhotmail-for-six-months/ | Apr 15 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to arstechnica.com:443; Connection refused ( status 0 @ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/04/hackers-could-read-non-corporate-outlook-comhotmail-for-six-months/ ) | Apr 15 20:05 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not the worst that ever happened to Outlook.com/Hotmail | Apr 15 20:07 |
| MinceR | yeah, the worst was that it was bought by m$ | Apr 15 20:07 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I had something else in mind, but that works too. | Apr 15 20:11 |
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| XRevan86 | http://thehunchblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/d-hell-11.png too soon? | Apr 15 21:18 |
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| MinceR | nothing is ever too soon, at least when it comes to comedy | Apr 15 21:25 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Benefits of the Reptiloid rule. | Apr 15 22:28 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 15 22:29 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian 10 Buster's Installer Reaches RC Phase - Finally Offers Secure Boot Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122880 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cfdb64c6-8272-40cb-8d78-fc9385e6d7c9] | Apr 16 03:15 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: DARPA, Updates, Microsoft Windows Incidents and Outlook Fiasco http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122881 [https://pleroma.site/objects/28abb9c1-776a-4cc1-900a-98508c111cb0] | Apr 16 03:25 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audio/Video: This Week in Linux, Linux Gaming News Punch, Python, Rust and GhostBSD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122882 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cd6e877b-dea2-497f-b4bf-0e5fd708b980] | Apr 16 03:38 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Devices: Linux Support on ASRock and Avalue Hardware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122883 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7687ed0a-783a-4d22-8fe8-b9d271ecebd9] | Apr 16 03:48 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Current Intel "Iris" Gallium3D OpenGL Performance Against i965 Mesa, Windows 10 OpenGL http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122884 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e892d099-6e35-4442-a7a6-fbfe47a81437] | Apr 16 03:55 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122885 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8eeaeb0d-6ba3-4f40-a8eb-7886ff1e4bfe] | Apr 16 04:44 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Server: Red Hat, Kubernetes, Ceph, SUSE and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122886 [https://pleroma.site/objects/21d88079-46da-48c4-8f8d-0af430041810] | Apr 16 05:06 | |
| schestowitz | Richard Stallman wrote on 15/04/2019 04:36:> > Last week I read the CoC for LF conferences. I have not yet read the | Apr 16 06:52 |
| schestowitz | > > ones which applies to online communications. I will ask around as maybe | Apr 16 06:52 |
| schestowitz | > > some techrights members know it. | Apr 16 06:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 06:52 |
| schestowitz | > If we can demonstrate that it really prohibits condemning Microsoft | Apr 16 06:52 |
| schestowitz | > that would be a convincing criticism. | Apr 16 06:52 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/drAhGM8.jpg | Apr 16 06:55 |
| schestowitz | > > I added some links to this text. I am very reluctant to say much on the | Apr 16 06:56 |
| schestowitz | > > subject as there's a tendency to accuse the messenger of sexism and | Apr 16 06:56 |
| schestowitz | > > question the messenger's motivations. | Apr 16 06:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 06:56 |
| schestowitz | > Would you please send me the URLs linked to, and show me the parts or | Apr 16 06:56 |
| schestowitz | > passages of the articles linked to? | Apr 16 06:56 |
| schestowitz | The URL in question composed by Microsoft staff | Apr 16 06:56 |
| schestowitz | https://opensource.org/node/980 | Apr 16 06:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | ClearlyDefined Update | Open Source Initiative | Apr 16 06:56 | |
| schestowitz | Also see: | Apr 16 06:56 |
| schestowitz | https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2018/03/06/clearlydefined-osi/ | Apr 16 06:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cloudblogs.microsoft.com | Join OSI and Microsoft in the new ClearlyDefined project | Apr 16 06:56 | |
| schestowitz | "BTW, that RT interview with you (pre-recorded and published yesterday) was badly done. The host was looking for a confrontation where none was needed. She was not as bad as a man on the same channel, someone I recall being a lot older and heckling you on the show. The media has such a low level of tolerate for dissenting voices." | Apr 16 07:01 |
| schestowitz | The RMS interview in question: "https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/456509-digital-privacy-internet-surveillance/ | Apr 16 07:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richard Stallman: Facebook is surveillance monster feeding on our personal data RT — SophieCo | Apr 16 07:03 | |
| schestowitz | Richard Stallman wrote on 15/04/2019 04:36:> > The screenshot is a small portion from a sponsorship brochure. It shows | Apr 16 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > > that for the price (sponsorship) of $10,000 you get tweets in your | Apr 16 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > > support from the LF and also from Jono Bacon, who admits in his blog | Apr 16 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > > that LF is his "client". | Apr 16 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > That sounds really bad. But I can't make use of a screenshot. | Apr 16 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > Can you show me, as ASCII text, the pertinent text | Apr 16 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > and tell me what URL it is in? With that info, I could refer to it. | Apr 16 07:07 |
| schestowitz | “3 Social Media Sponsor Mentions from Linux Foundation and 1 from Jono Bacon’s (OCC Chair) Twitter account” | Apr 16 07:07 |
| schestowitz | Screenshot from Page 14 [full page as JPG]: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/open-source-summit-14.jpg | Apr 16 07:07 |
| schestowitz | > > To see the tweets in question would require me browsing a massive | Apr 16 07:10 |
| schestowitz | > > archive, going back to days (fates) round the event in question. That | Apr 16 07:10 |
| schestowitz | > > would be a big task. | Apr 16 07:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 07:10 |
| schestowitz | > I understand. | Apr 16 07:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 07:10 |
| schestowitz | > When you see such a tweet in the future, could you send me the details | Apr 16 07:10 |
| schestowitz | > right then, when you have them? | Apr 16 07:10 |
| schestowitz | I've asked a Finnish friends to scan his tweets and he found some other interesting things, such as Bacon no longer using GNU/Linux. He uses a "Mac"-branded PC now, just like Zemlin. | Apr 16 07:10 |
| schestowitz | So much for "Linux" Foundation... | Apr 16 07:10 |
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| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/r2vh8qq5vfs21.png | Apr 16 11:09 |
| XRevan86 | > The RMS interview in question: "https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/456509-digital-privacy-internet-surveillance/ | Apr 16 11:18 |
| XRevan86 | Oh boy, he made a new one? | Apr 16 11:18 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Apr 16 11:29 |
| schestowitz | did you see the old one with an ol' man? | Apr 16 11:29 |
| schestowitz | Even worse than Sophie | Apr 16 11:29 |
| schestowitz | RT idiots | Apr 16 11:29 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: DnD stuff. | Apr 16 11:30 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 16 11:30 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: https://rt.com/news/richard-stallman-free-software-875 this one? | Apr 16 11:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stallman: Facebook IS Mass Surveillance — RT World News | Apr 16 11:33 | |
| XRevan86 | The video starts with showing code scrolled in GNU nano | Apr 16 11:39 |
| XRevan86 | Not GNU Emacs? Blasphemy! | Apr 16 11:39 |
| MinceR | they wanted a text editor | Apr 16 11:40 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Sofico Shevardnadze is a familiar name, but I cannot remember from where. Scanning news sites didn't reveal any controversies, so at least it seems from that that she didn't… get herself widely known. | Apr 16 11:59 |
| XRevan86 | unlike, say, the editor-in-chief of RT Margarita Simonyan | Apr 16 12:00 |
| XRevan86 | … or her husband Tigran Keosayan | Apr 16 12:01 |
| schestowitz | husband? | Apr 16 12:04 |
| schestowitz | is there nepotism at RT? | Apr 16 12:04 |
| XRevan86 | As far as I know, he's not involved in RT, but he's in Russian television. | Apr 16 12:05 |
| XRevan86 | And they've made a film together (on the Russian Cinema Foundation money, heh): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crimean_Bridge._Made_with_Love! | Apr 16 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crimean_Bridge._Made_with_Love ) | Apr 16 12:06 | |
| XRevan86 | 2.6/10 on KinoPoisk | Apr 16 12:07 |
| XRevan86 | a major disaster | Apr 16 12:07 |
| schestowitz | [11:32] <XRevan86> schestowitz: https://rt.com/news/richard-stallman-free-software-875 this one? | Apr 16 12:08 |
| schestowitz | video doesn't load, but based on the date, this might be the joker | Apr 16 12:08 |
| XRevan86 | https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krim_(2017) Russian, German, Hebrew, no English | Apr 16 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-de.wikipedia.org | Krim (2017) – Wikipedia | Apr 16 12:09 | |
| XRevan86 | not related to Simonyan, I was just reminded of this flick | Apr 16 12:10 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/595949.jpg | Apr 16 12:12 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/595894.jpg | Apr 16 12:26 |
| *XRevan86 watched half of the new interview | Apr 16 12:31 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I've seen worse RMS interviews. | Apr 16 12:32 |
| schestowitz | doing a story on FSF atm | Apr 16 12:34 |
| schestowitz | This angle of the story has generally required me to do a lot of editing after asking around without divulging some identities/names. Let me think how to handle this... | Apr 16 12:34 |
| schestowitz | > Right. Truth needs to be told. I wonder if it's in the history. | Apr 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway it was rejected in minutes and original reverted. | Apr 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > I have that happen to me on censorpedia, pretty much anytime I try to post stuff. | Apr 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > That was another scandal - the editors were taking payment to watch certain corp pages years ago. | Apr 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > It's all sickening. | Apr 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | RMS has just sent me about 10 emails. He's reading everything. | Apr 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | >> He's a good source. | Apr 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | "I, myself," explained the reader, "am curious about what I had heard about the Code of Conduct enforcement at LibrePlanet and how it seemed RMS was pressured into abiding by a CoC. That, in itself, is very disturbing to me. I don't know what exactly is going on over there, but it looks like somehow, they are pressuring him to abide by a CoC. I'll be looking forward to see your results - or get to the bottom of it." | Apr 16 12:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Interesting about Censorpedia. | Apr 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz | When I was at FSF, one of my tasks - my main tasks, was to let people know about GFDL. Then, Jimmy and Wikipedia came along and people were aware, working on free information and it seemed good. | Apr 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Internet Archive also started removing content too. Just a couple of days ago, Jason Scott posted how the French Govt was requesting internet archive to remove content - it's in his twitter. | Apr 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz | One was Gutenberg. When I was in Mexico, Adam Holt of Internet in a Box was telling me some countries don't want Gutenberg. You know me, I was upset at that. | Apr 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Greg Newby told me there are a few ways to export Gutenberg - and I'm meeting people tomorrow to revive the library box project for my local group, because I hate this censorship... | Apr 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz | All great stuff you are doing. I really think people need to know the facts. | Apr 16 12:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 16 12:45 |
| MinceR | shouldn't be surprising after he shilled cancerd | Apr 16 12:45 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Can you ask him if he ever looks at https://gnusocial.no/rms/replies (or https://gnusocial.no/api/statuses/mentions/rms.atom) ? | Apr 16 12:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Replies to rms - GNUsocial.no | Apr 16 12:45 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: RMS? | Apr 16 12:46 |
| schestowitz | he just didn't oppose it | Apr 16 12:46 |
| MinceR | so what is he for? | Apr 16 12:46 |
| schestowitz | diplomacy | Apr 16 12:46 |
| MinceR | systemd's primary purpose is to destroy its users' freedoms | Apr 16 12:46 |
| schestowitz | more so now | Apr 16 12:46 |
| schestowitz | so claim some | Apr 16 12:46 |
| MinceR | and then rms goes to claim "it's free software because of its license" | Apr 16 12:46 |
| schestowitz | he is not convinced yet | Apr 16 12:46 |
| schestowitz | I might bring it up to him | Apr 16 12:47 |
| MinceR | which is well known to not be the way it works | Apr 16 12:47 |
| schestowitz | but not at this time | Apr 16 12:47 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: he just reads mail | Apr 16 12:47 |
| MinceR | also, gnome3 was designed to depend on systemd, while gnome is still part of the gnu project | Apr 16 12:47 |
| schestowitz | I get lots of messages from him this week | Apr 16 12:47 |
| schestowitz | only few of which (impersonal) I pasted here | Apr 16 12:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: not just gnome | Apr 16 12:48 |
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| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Matrix.org is getting back on its feet? :) | Apr 16 12:50 |
| XRevan86 | 19:50 – my favourite part in the interview | Apr 16 13:16 |
| XRevan86 | RMS: … fundamentally the law is wrong because it's… | Apr 16 13:16 |
| XRevan86 | Sofiko: Because what? | Apr 16 13:16 |
| XRevan86 | 21:41 – now an actual interruption | Apr 16 13:21 |
| XRevan86 | She didn't like the implication that RF, amongst others, is trying to block dissent through Internet control laws? | Apr 16 13:23 |
| XRevan86 | I'd expect them to give up to trying to hide it already. | Apr 16 13:24 |
| XRevan86 | * on trying | Apr 16 13:24 |
| XRevan86 | Autonomous Internet law my arse | Apr 16 13:26 |
| XRevan86 | How would installing DPIs everywhere even remotely help by any degree to keep network integrity? | Apr 16 13:26 |
| XRevan86 | And "France is the most democratic country on Earth right now" is laughable. | Apr 16 13:28 |
| schestowitz | by the way, you might enjoy phill from gchq: | Apr 16 13:36 |
| schestowitz | https://phillfromgchq.co.uk/?phill=5 [license: cc by 4.0] -- (NSFW) PHILL from GCHQ | Katharsisdrill | Link is to the 5th strip in the comic, as it is the first one that is arguably SFW -- https://freemedia.neocities.org/library.html | Apr 16 13:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phillfromgchq.co.uk | Phill from GCHQ - episode 5: Boris! | Apr 16 13:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freemedia.neocities.org | free media alliance | Apr 16 13:36 | |
| schestowitz | many thanks for mentioning us in irc | Apr 16 13:38 |
| schestowitz | free media alliance | Apr 16 13:38 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "PHILL from GCHQ" – so confusing. | Apr 16 14:17 |
| XRevan86 | But now I have a sudden urge to have a doughnut | Apr 16 14:19 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR These Disney live remakes are getting completely out of hand. | Apr 16 17:37 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: I know what you need: live-action Gravity Falls | Apr 16 17:38 |
| XRevan86 | And live-action Futurama | Apr 16 17:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was talking about The Hunchback of Notre Dame. | Apr 16 17:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The end scene where it's burning down. | Apr 16 17:47 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: ln]] | Apr 16 17:50 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: oooh | Apr 16 17:50 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: what is this meme with bug and boy? | Apr 16 18:21 |
| schestowitz | New (ish) thing? | Apr 16 18:21 |
| MinceR | not bug and boy, garfield and jon | Apr 16 18:21 |
| MinceR | and sort of newish -- 2013 and 2018, iirc | Apr 16 18:22 |
| MinceR | https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/creepy-garfield | Apr 16 18:22 |
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| cubexyz | schestowitz, I did say that plan9's last major update was in 2002 but... | Apr 17 01:27 |
| cubexyz | plan9 was forked... the new version is called 9front | Apr 17 01:28 |
| cubexyz | this appeared in 2018 | Apr 17 01:28 |
| cubexyz | some folks got tired of the lack of updates | Apr 17 01:29 |
| cubexyz | http://9front.org | Apr 17 01:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9FRONT.ORG THE PLAN FELL OFF | Apr 17 01:29 | |
| cubexyz | works on 386, amd64, arm and mips | Apr 17 01:30 |
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| schestowitz | Richard Stallman wrote on 16/04/2019 22:41:> > The URL in question composed by Microsoft staff | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks, I will look. | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > > BTW, that RT interview with you (pre-recorded and published yesterday) | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > > was badly done. | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, that tends to be the case. The question is, did I manage | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > to use it effectively? | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > What do you think? | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | If it did not take up much of your time. | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | RT contacted me a few times in the past. Sputnik also. I never ever replied, seeing how these things got spun against Wikileaks. | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | I should mention, they only ever invite me on their show to say something negative about the British government, from their studios in the UK. | Apr 17 06:32 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/EIikLxX.jpg | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | I am not desperate for an audience if it'll come at a cost. Quality over quantity I guess. | Apr 17 06:32 |
| schestowitz | I suppose you know Alex Jones' videos were all taken down, inc. your interview. | Apr 17 06:32 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/RWolPcZ.gifv | Apr 17 06:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Apr 17 06:34 | |
| schestowitz | > This shows that they don't really care about Linux (let alone the | Apr 17 06:34 |
| schestowitz | > GNU/Linux system). They are only using it. | Apr 17 06:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 17 06:34 |
| schestowitz | > If you publish an article with references for this -- and which | Apr 17 06:34 |
| schestowitz | > focuses on just this point; it must not wander! -- then I would be | Apr 17 06:35 |
| schestowitz | > glad to post a link to it. | Apr 17 06:35 |
| schestowitz | I wrote a very short article about it yesterday: | Apr 17 06:35 |
| schestowitz | A Linux Foundation Run by People Who Reject Linux is Like a Children's Charity Whose Management Dislikes Children | Apr 17 06:35 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/04/16/lack-of-commitment-to-linux/ | Apr 17 06:35 |
| schestowitz | I am planning to write another much longer article about this next week. Much longer. | Apr 17 06:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Linux Foundation Run by People Who Reject Linux is Like a Children’s Charity Whose Management Dislikes Children | Techrights | Apr 17 06:35 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: thanks for the info | Apr 17 06:35 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was work in progress as you tried it years ago, cubexyz | Apr 17 06:36 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: faked subs? | Apr 17 06:37 |
| schestowitz | on some authentic show? | Apr 17 06:37 |
| MinceR | dunno | Apr 17 06:37 |
| MinceR | but it seems likely | Apr 17 06:37 |
| schestowitz | where do you find it | Apr 17 06:38 |
| schestowitz | assorted sources? reddit? | Apr 17 06:38 |
| MinceR | irc | Apr 17 06:39 |
| schestowitz | ah, so even better | Apr 17 06:47 |
| schestowitz | we need to keep irc going | Apr 17 06:47 |
| schestowitz | yesterday I read an article about irc's diminishing base | Apr 17 06:47 |
| schestowitz | to be replaced by proprietary centralised crap like SLAAAACK | Apr 17 06:47 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 17 07:10 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19032842 | Apr 17 07:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://ircz.de/p/19032842 ) | Apr 17 07:36 | |
| schestowitz | da faq, that's some ineligible sign, but it's not English | Apr 17 07:59 |
| schestowitz | looks like magistrate | Apr 17 08:00 |
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| XRevan86 | > I suppose you know Alex Jones' videos were all taken down, inc. your interview. | Apr 17 09:59 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I suppose I shouldn't be that surprised RMS did another RT interview :). | Apr 17 10:00 |
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| schestowitz | he did infowars, XRevan86 | Apr 17 10:17 |
| schestowitz | not good taste imgo | Apr 17 10:17 |
| schestowitz | imho | Apr 17 10:17 |
| schestowitz | but it was a good interview, not hostile | Apr 17 10:18 |
| schestowitz | Jones was relatively respectful | Apr 17 10:18 |
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| MinceR | i think that sign wants to say "Magister", as reflected by the tiny text at the bottom | Apr 17 11:35 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/595857.jpg | Apr 17 11:39 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19031868 | Apr 17 12:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 17 12:18 | |
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| XRevan86 | kaniini: https://shitposter.club/objects/827889ea-bcf5-454c-ba1c-d237745ec7a8 | Apr 17 13:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shitposter.club | NO TITLE | Apr 17 13:34 | |
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| MinceR | :> | Apr 17 13:36 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I guess RMS' philosophy is that the only thing that matters is to make his message heard. | Apr 17 13:38 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: https://archive.org/details/200809Alex what series of Alex Jones stuff was taken down. | Apr 17 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | Alex Jones Show, September 2008 : Alex Jones, Infowars : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive | Apr 17 13:41 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: the fun of archive.org a lot people think is gone is not. | Apr 17 13:42 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPs3EeRyL9Y | Apr 17 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Alex Jones DMT Electro House Remix - YouTube | Apr 17 13:44 | |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I've found things that would've been lost forever there on numerous occasions | Apr 17 13:47 |
| XRevan86 | Meanwhile… https://shitposter.club/media/0127f092-506e-49a2-87eb-7afcf9291085/image.png | Apr 17 13:49 |
| MinceR | TIL archive.is and archive.org are "right-wing" | Apr 17 13:50 |
| MinceR | also, i wonder whose fault it is that VICE's old article versions can be used to discredit VICE | Apr 17 13:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Hands are right-wing too (even left ones), as they are used for discrimination all the time. | Apr 17 13:51 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 17 13:51 |
| oiaohm | Really improve you editors boys. Wonder how long until vice blocks google. https://cachedview.com/ | Apr 17 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Cached Pages of Any Website - CachedView | Apr 17 13:54 | |
| oiaohm | Of course that something they have not considered there is a hell load of caching out there. | Apr 17 13:54 |
| oiaohm | https://torrentfreak.com/russia-orders-major-vpn-providers-to-block-banned-sites-or-face-blocking-themselves-190328/ Hmm governments are now attempt to catch up with the internet. | Apr 17 14:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russia Orders Major VPN Providers to Block 'Banned' Sites - TorrentFreak | Apr 17 14:36 | |
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| MinceR | > This just in, the Police do not know what caused the fire in Notre Dame, but Quasimodo has a hunch. | Apr 17 15:46 |
| MinceR | http://surrounder.nl/safeword.jpg | Apr 17 15:51 |
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| schestowitz | [11:39] <MinceR> https://hugelolcdn.com/i/595857.jpg | Apr 17 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Double yuck | Apr 17 17:06 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1118595920436842496 | Apr 17 20:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz I should do my own. Was using CoreOS, but with the Redhat merge, gentoo build system is no more. | Apr 17 20:29 | |
| schestowitz | the "too many options" troll | Apr 17 20:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/leucinedreams/status/1118597052240465921 | Apr 17 20:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@leucinedreams: @schestowitz Linux. For when subversion is your only option. | Apr 17 20:29 | |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: viera is offline after netsplit | Apr 18 03:50 |
| schestowitz | > I looked at | Apr 18 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2018/03/06/clearlydefined-osi/. | Apr 18 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cloudblogs.microsoft.com | Join OSI and Microsoft in the new ClearlyDefined project | Apr 18 04:30 | |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > Of course, it has the moral shallowness of open source. | Apr 18 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > But what, specifically, is bad about it? | Apr 18 04:30 |
| schestowitz | Nothing particularly bad about it. This is what the Microsoft person promotes at OSI. | Apr 18 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > If my RT interview had a good effect this week, I'm content with it. | Apr 18 04:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 04:31 |
| schestowitz | > Do you have a judgement about the interview itself? | Apr 18 04:31 |
| schestowitz | > Do you think it had a good effect? | Apr 18 04:31 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I have shared it around thrice. | Apr 18 04:31 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: cheers, thank you sir :-) | Apr 18 05:03 |
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| schestowitz | lol | Apr 18 08:11 |
| schestowitz | Techtights member: | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | CoC effects on LF and kernel work? | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | There is also this, but I think few will be willing to do so much work and analysis for free. | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/observed-effects-on-kernel-code-from-code-of-conduct-coc-4175652344/ | Apr 18 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Observed effects on Kernel code from Code of Conduct (CoC) | Apr 18 08:14 | |
| schestowitz | Though maybe it is easy to track with Gource or some similar tool and can be done in an hour or two. | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Can anyone help with this? Any takers? | Apr 18 08:14 |
| schestowitz | >> i'll mention it online later in case there are taker. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | > Maybe best only in IRC. | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | we might explore some of the intricate details behind Intel and others who use the CoC to wrest control | Apr 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | > In fact, maybe it is best not to publicize the actual link but simply to | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | > quote or paraphrase the question in IRC. LQ has been without SJW drama | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | > and it would be nice to keep it that way. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | IRC is not seen by many. I post logs over Easter, 4 month's logs. | Apr 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz | > Ok, maybe post the question or a paraphrase of it without mentioning LQ | Apr 18 08:50 |
| schestowitz | > would be best. | Apr 18 08:50 |
| schestowitz | Too late :-) | Apr 18 08:50 |
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| schestowitz | “to impose faux politeness and political correctness is just a means of #censorship / increasing of influence - utilising “useful idiots” to get the job done.” | Apr 18 11:09 |
| schestowitz | https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/microsoft-may-3-linux-but-they’re-still-lobbying-against-user-rights-open-source-4175652201/page2.html#post5985874 | Apr 18 11:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Microsoft may <3 Linux but they're still lobbying against user rights / open source - Page 2 | Apr 18 11:09 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 11:29 |
| schestowitz | There is explicit expectation by LF sponsors. | Apr 18 11:29 |
| schestowitz | It's a mess. I have to run. | Apr 18 11:29 |
| schestowitz | Busy this week... catch up with more organized details this weekend. | Apr 18 11:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 11:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 11:36 |
| schestowitz | You reported on that Community Bridge about a week before Jono "advertised" it on his jonobacon site. | Apr 18 11:36 |
| schestowitz | Notice he responded to Bradley M. Kuhn but never to me. haha. | Apr 18 11:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 11:36 |
| schestowitz | "I'm not worth the great "leader's" time. He was on my twitter but then, when I started questioning his motivations, he immediately disconnected from my twitter. " | Apr 18 11:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > My findings are all listed here, in a Web page that's only minutes old. | Apr 18 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 11:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 11:40 |
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| schestowitz | RMS: | Apr 18 12:16 |
| schestowitz | > I see reasons to consider the LF corrupt, but is it like a PAC? | Apr 18 12:16 |
| schestowitz | > A PAC funnels funds to the support of political campaigns. | Apr 18 12:16 |
| schestowitz | > Is the LF doing that? | Apr 18 12:16 |
| schestowitz | When I came up with the name I was thinking of substitution for SuperPAC with the person who they portray as superman, and who uses this position -- and trademark -- to promote his political agenda too (as he does at LF events). | Apr 18 12:16 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19031811 | Apr 18 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 18 22:13 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 18 22:31 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 18 23:01 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://xmppshare.meowr.ru/7018dab47d96f0125923921d7e7b834efc33c532/jHVJnRPZmf8W9PC5sHHj5g1Ob7XVKEdWD2iupbb0/st_in_nutshell.jpg | Apr 18 23:30 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Another amazing trope of Star Trek is exploding consoles. | Apr 18 23:31 |
| XRevan86 | The first time I see someone spelling it out in the series though :) | Apr 18 23:31 |
| kaniini | now alpine switches to discord from IRC | Apr 18 23:50 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: One would think a distribution of free software would be more committed to… free software. | Apr 18 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: As I understand, they'll use it only for text, right? | Apr 18 23:56 |
| XRevan86 | Meanwhile… https://calculate-linux.org/blogs/en/727/show https://calculate-linux.org/blogs/en/727/show | Apr 18 23:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-old.calculate-linux.org | A Matrix chat server has been launched for Calculate Linux users - Planet Calculate | Apr 18 23:58 | |
| XRevan86 | A Gentoo-based distribution moved away from IRC… to Matrix with IRC and XMPP bridges. | Apr 18 23:59 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: If Alpine has to move away from IRC, this is one route they could've taken. | Apr 19 00:00 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19032712 | Apr 19 00:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 19 00:15 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/573579/teen-boy-rushed-hospital-games-console-explode-bedroom-poland Its not like exploding consoles is impossible. But you have to ask the question what in heck is leaking into the console before the big bang. | Apr 19 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailystar.co.uk | Teen boy rushed to hospital after games console explodes in bedroom - Daily Star | Apr 19 00:51 | |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: It's the frequency that gets me | Apr 19 00:52 |
| XRevan86 | Even iPhone's don't explode that often | Apr 19 00:52 |
| XRevan86 | Operation rooms are supposed to be the safest to be on in a starship, but because of all the deadly consoles, they are the most dangerous. | Apr 19 00:54 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Really I wish I could remember the name of the video card. There was a historic gpu that had a cemeric heat sink that surface got hot enough to give any tech careless enough to touch it third degree burns. | Apr 19 01:01 |
| oiaohm | So I have seen some quite dangerous things. | Apr 19 01:02 |
| MinceR | "i have seen things you people wouldn't believe" | Apr 19 01:02 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Starfleet must've found a way to replicate those. | Apr 19 01:03 |
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| oiaohm | Star trek universe has horrible things like bio computers that in theory could process the worse form of magic smoke possible. Ie methane and hydrogen . | Apr 19 01:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.electronics-cooling.com/2010/11/micro-porous-ceramic-heat-sinks-enhance-heat-dissipation/ I cam remember the material. I just cannot remember the video card it was the first major production device to use it. And fairly much the last time we have see a big version of it inside a computer case. | Apr 19 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.electronics-cooling.com | Micro Porous Ceramic Heat Sinks Enhance Heat Dissipation | Electronics Cooling | Apr 19 01:08 | |
| oiaohm | There is such thing as too heat conductive who would think it. | Apr 19 01:08 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: The question is not whether they could pull it off | Apr 19 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | but whether they should've | Apr 19 01:12 |
| oiaohm | Fact we have seen a video card with a heat sink surface temp of the silicon and due to its high conductivity of heat cause third degree burns before being forbiden from sale in standard cases. If the Star Fleet regulation is crap it could happen that way. | Apr 19 01:15 |
| oiaohm | The other is with all the automated assisting the star trek ships seam to have with their bio computers and other things to perform the task they could be treating it the same way we treat lithium ion batteries in phones and the like. | Apr 19 01:16 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Considering how routine these accidents are for Starfleet, the regulation must be that it's forbidden not to have explosive qualities. | Apr 19 01:17 |
| oiaohm | When you get the star trek time like console explosions you are talking years apart in real time. | Apr 19 01:17 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: The closest thing to a Li-ion battery in there is the Warp core | Apr 19 01:17 |
| oiaohm | The bio pack computers are the closest thing to li-ion battery in startrek. | Apr 19 01:18 |
| oiaohm | https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Biocomputer | Apr 19 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-memory-alpha.fandom.com | Biocomputer | Memory Alpha | FANDOM powered by Wikia | Apr 19 01:19 | |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: TNG doesn't have those | Apr 19 01:19 |
| oiaohm | Yes data storage and computer processing of possible not the most stable kind. | Apr 19 01:19 |
| oiaohm | Remember those were meant to be upgrades over the prior. | Apr 19 01:19 |
| oiaohm | So how scary bad was the prior. | Apr 19 01:20 |
| oiaohm | By the exploding consoles I would say quite bad. | Apr 19 01:20 |
| XRevan86 | ST:V has "bio-neural gel packs", but explosive consoles were all over original ST:TNG and ST:DS9 too | Apr 19 01:20 |
| oiaohm | The star trek cannon does not mention exactly what the prior computers were. | Apr 19 01:21 |
| oiaohm | Just the bio-neural gel was improvement. | Apr 19 01:21 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: That bio-neutral stuff doesn't seem all that great from the sciency side. | Apr 19 01:22 |
| XRevan86 | so likely not quantum computers | Apr 19 01:23 |
| oiaohm | Also you have to consider that in star trek you have insanely advanced medical so up to second degree burns is minor quick treatable thing. | Apr 19 01:23 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: But consoles are still deadly | Apr 19 01:24 |
| XRevan86 | even if medical wonders reduce the death toll considerably | Apr 19 01:25 |
| oiaohm | So fire suppressing systems that would be forbid could be allowed in star trek. Like using explosives. | Apr 19 01:25 |
| XRevan86 | Meanwhile, consoles are supposed to just be consoles, a Raspberry Pie could do the job they do. | Apr 19 01:25 |
| XRevan86 | with a TNT taped on | Apr 19 01:26 |
| oiaohm | You have to remember we have shipped ammonium nitrate in car airbags and only recalled that after enough people were killed. | Apr 19 01:26 |
| XRevan86 | s/a // | Apr 19 01:27 |
| oiaohm | So humans have a history of miss using explosives. | Apr 19 01:27 |
| oiaohm | Or using the wrong types. | Apr 19 01:27 |
| oiaohm | Basically the console exploding in star trek is just normal human stupidity take to is expected form. Improved medical resulting in lower health and safety. Add in some miss use of explosive materials you have star trek. | Apr 19 01:28 |
| XRevan86 | Star Trek: the Federation is terrible, but somehow the best. | Apr 19 01:29 |
| oiaohm | Do note the bridge in star trek in a lot of cases does not have enough seats or seat belts. You see them thrown around a bridge far more often than consoles exploding. | Apr 19 01:29 |
| oiaohm | So Star Trek work place health and safety is about as good as a bad third world country. | Apr 19 01:30 |
| oiaohm | and massively depending on the medical to keep the fatalities down. | Apr 19 01:31 |
| XRevan86 | Star Trek: the Federation forbids genetic engineering of human brains, yet where are super-Romulans, super-Cardassians? | Apr 19 01:31 |
| XRevan86 | Or are humans the only species that can be vastly genetically improved? Or have they all forbidded it despite the obvious military advantages? | Apr 19 01:32 |
| oiaohm | That is covered in particular episode in early Star Trek. There were genetic engineered humans they were as insane as the Romulans, Carassians and the Vulkans. | Apr 19 01:32 |
| XRevan86 | * forbidden | Apr 19 01:33 |
| oiaohm | After all the mental illness issue caused by being more intelligent resulting in superiority complexes star trek forbid it. | Apr 19 01:33 |
| oiaohm | in the federation. | Apr 19 01:34 |
| oiaohm | And most races in the star trek universe have run into the same problem. | Apr 19 01:34 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Turns out, mad scientists are a real issue. | Apr 19 01:34 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Klingon_augment_virus yep. | Apr 19 01:36 |
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| oiaohm | XRevan86: there are multi cases where different groups attempt to improve there race. Either they almost kill them selfs out or end up with insane people to deal with. | Apr 19 01:37 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: So that's why… | Apr 19 01:37 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I've been wondering about the looks of Klingons | Apr 19 01:37 |
| oiaohm | That did alter the IQ profile of the Klingons as well . | Apr 19 01:39 |
| oiaohm | There are many examples in star trek of genetic engineered other races. Most cases it like the Klingon or worse. Some of the human ones are horrible like improving human immune system to be proactive and it results in modify all normal humans near them to age rapidly and die. | Apr 19 01:40 |
| oiaohm | star trek is very anti DNA modification unless you want to risk exterminating your race by the fall out from either the bio side effects or that the enhanced are insane and attempt to kill you. | Apr 19 01:42 |
| oiaohm | If you go throw the cannon carefully you will find notes from different Romulans/vulkans that they tried it as well it created the divide between those two races. Carassians I have no notes on. | Apr 19 01:43 |
| oiaohm | So genetic engineering failing is very common in the star trek universe. | Apr 19 01:44 |
| XRevan86 | > Gene Roddenberry himself reportedly believed any "explanation" was unnecessary; the makeup seen in the films and the later series would have been too expensive during the 1960s. Roddenberry felt it was best to simply imagine that Klingons always had ridges (although this preference was officially contradicted by canon when the change was noted by the DS9 crew in "Trials and Tribble-ations"). | Apr 19 01:45 |
| *XRevan86 did exactly that, thought that the new make-up is retroactive, but then I saw "Trials and Tribble-ations". | Apr 19 01:45 | |
| oiaohm | canon does kind of answer why you don't see super that often. Really a Vulkan is a super Romulan. | Apr 19 01:47 |
| oiaohm | One of the rare cases it kind of worked. | Apr 19 01:48 |
| oiaohm | I would not call a Vulkan 100 percent success. | Apr 19 01:48 |
| XRevan86 | > Really a Vulkan is a super Romulan. | Apr 19 01:48 |
| XRevan86 | o_O | Apr 19 01:48 |
| XRevan86 | I understood it has them having cultural differences. | Apr 19 01:49 |
| oiaohm | They are the same race. One enhanced and one rejected enchancing. | Apr 19 01:49 |
| oiaohm | Losing emotions for enhancement is something the romulans would not tolerate. | Apr 19 01:50 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: By the way the series paints them both it's the Romulans who are the foolish ones. | Apr 19 01:50 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: And also that Vulcans don't not have emotions, but rather control them. | Apr 19 01:51 |
| oiaohm | Vulcans cannot freely express emotions or risk being a danger to everyone. Due to being so OP. | Apr 19 01:52 |
| XRevan86 | Sarek in TNG had a condition that made him lose control. | Apr 19 01:52 |
| oiaohm | Yes the Romulans are painted as foolish because they are lower IQ and also physically weaker. | Apr 19 01:52 |
| oiaohm | Again that is because Vulkan enhancement is not perfect. | Apr 19 01:53 |
| oiaohm | And comes with horrible side effects. | Apr 19 01:53 |
| oiaohm | Examples of enhancement in startrek don't paint perfectly outcomes. | Apr 19 01:54 |
| *XRevan86 wonders if he's unaware, because TNG and spin-offs tried to brush it under the rug. | Apr 19 01:54 | |
| oiaohm | There are very few eposides that cover how Vulkan and romulans are related. | Apr 19 01:55 |
| oiaohm | That they other thing about startrek there seams to be a culture thing not to talk about enhancement as well due to it being forbid. | Apr 19 01:55 |
| oiaohm | Unless it absolutely required. | Apr 19 01:56 |
| oiaohm | If it was covered more people would be aware that enhancement is a common thing to be attempt by all races in startrek that lead to different levels of fail. | Apr 19 01:57 |
| oiaohm | Sometimes completely nuking their race out of existence and leaving behind illness that keeps on showing up. | Apr 19 01:57 |
| XRevan86 | > The Vulcans eventually became Earth's "big brothers" in a way, advising Earth officials on how to proceed into the galaxy. | Apr 19 02:02 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, like Minbari… | Apr 19 02:02 |
| oiaohm | Yes and of course that also explains why romulans fear the federation | Apr 19 02:04 |
| oiaohm | being seen as lapdogs to the Vulcans so have to be the romulans enemy. | Apr 19 02:05 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: In TNG and DS9 it amused me that Vulcans are barely even a thing | Apr 19 02:05 |
| XRevan86 | but Romulans are important, as allies or adversaries | Apr 19 02:06 |
| oiaohm | Exactly if you are the puppet master as the vulcans are why would you put your own people in harms way. | Apr 19 02:06 |
| oiaohm | Remember spock was half human half vulkan that why you saw him. Most of the time vulkans really stay as in the bureaucracy even in the first series as it the logical place to be don't risk your hide when you can risk someone elses . | Apr 19 02:08 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: There were… a few Vulcans here and there | Apr 19 02:09 |
| oiaohm | If you look closely most of them are some form of government bureaucracy | Apr 19 02:10 |
| oiaohm | So puppet masters keeping in the background | Apr 19 02:10 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: And ST:V got a Vulcan in a spot light | Apr 19 02:10 |
| XRevan86 | On a starship | Apr 19 02:10 |
| XRevan86 | It also showed that Vulcans come in all shapes and sizes American society can provide %). | Apr 19 02:11 |
| oiaohm | His back story is he heed starship time to get a particular government position. | Apr 19 02:11 |
| oiaohm | So vulcans not like the front lines. | Apr 19 02:12 |
| oiaohm | Romulans, Humans, Klingon races will be on the front lines. | Apr 19 02:12 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Carsassians, Been, Jem'Hadar | Apr 19 02:14 |
| XRevan86 | Breen* | Apr 19 02:14 |
| XRevan86 | Cardassians* | Apr 19 02:14 |
| XRevan86 | (a typo combo) | Apr 19 02:15 |
| oiaohm | Cardassian not so much they have slave class so they attempt to keep their forces out the front lines. | Apr 19 02:16 |
| oiaohm | Jem'Hadar is another super race . | Apr 19 02:16 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Do they? In DS9 all they do is stick their necks out. | Apr 19 02:17 |
| oiaohm | If you listen carefully those sticking their neck out in DS9 will loss their citizenship if they don't. | Apr 19 02:18 |
| oiaohm | They are slave class not the pure Carassian. | Apr 19 02:18 |
| oiaohm | We are not seen the pure Carassian in Startrek. | Apr 19 02:18 |
| oiaohm | are/have | Apr 19 02:19 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Um, I am pretty sure that's not how it is. | Apr 19 02:20 |
| XRevan86 | The political system of Cardassia has been explored in depth in TNG and DS9 | Apr 19 02:20 |
| oiaohm | Its a mess. | Apr 19 02:20 |
| XRevan86 | It has the same people on the front lines and in their offices. | Apr 19 02:21 |
| XRevan86 | As Guls and Legates | Apr 19 02:21 |
| oiaohm | You are right. I was forgoting who was the true master. | Apr 19 02:22 |
| oiaohm | Changeling made the Dominion and all the races that make up the dominion were made to serve them. | Apr 19 02:22 |
| oiaohm | Carassians are techically another of the slave races of the Dominion. | Apr 19 02:23 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Cardassians were a temporary member of the Dominion | Apr 19 02:23 |
| XRevan86 | Dukat signed a treaty with the Dominion somewhere in season 5 | Apr 19 02:24 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Cardassians weren't made by the changelings (the Founders) | Apr 19 02:25 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: In fact, in the original TNG Cardassians are strictly pre-Dominion | Apr 19 02:25 |
| oiaohm | Hmm need to go though that sections some time. | Apr 19 02:26 |
| oiaohm | Seems my memory has got mixed up on some of it. | Apr 19 02:26 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: You seem to take it seriously though (: | Apr 19 02:28 |
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| XRevan86 | Before going to sleep I'll only say: do holograms dream of holosheep? | Apr 19 02:33 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: normally with me if one section of memory is mess up another section will be as well. | Apr 19 02:35 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: hopefully not something important. | Apr 19 02:35 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: cascade system failure, all decks abandon ship | Apr 19 02:35 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, plan9 ran very stable on p3 era hardware | Apr 19 03:35 |
| cubexyz | unfortunately the web browser abaco was quite primitive | Apr 19 03:36 |
| cubexyz | the way text scrolled in the terminal was also a bit odd | Apr 19 03:36 |
| cubexyz | the window manager was non intuitive, but it was useable | Apr 19 03:38 |
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| schestowitz | Richard Stallman wrote on 18/04/2019 16:51:> I looked at https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/2/21/228 | Apr 19 05:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [GIT PULL] Load keys from signed PE binaries | Apr 19 05:47 | |
| schestowitz | > and I don't understand it. What is a "PE binary"? | Apr 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > What is the signing issue? | Apr 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | It's about UEFI 'secure boot'. | Apr 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > Meanwhile, you sent it as an example about the code of conduct. | Apr 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > What part of this text do you think might be prohibited by | Apr 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > the code of conduct? | Apr 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | Two "sexualised language" parts: "deep-throat Microsoft" and "dick-sucking contest." | Apr 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > > Nothing particularly bad about it. This is what the Microsoft person | Apr 19 05:54 |
| schestowitz | > > promotes at OSI. | Apr 19 05:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 19 05:54 |
| schestowitz | > It seems like just the sort of thing I'd expect the OSI to do. | Apr 19 05:54 |
| schestowitz | > My only criticism of it is that it promotes open source ;-{. | Apr 19 05:54 |
| schestowitz | Yes, albeit Simon Phipps has been talking a lot more about freedom lately. He's the OSI's chief. | Apr 19 05:54 |
| schestowitz | > I'm glad you think I did an effective job on RT. | Apr 19 05:55 |
| oiaohm | That level of language is not what Linus got into trouble for. | Apr 19 06:03 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://lwn.net/Articles/764325/ the hated bit here is some quite nasty language. | Apr 19 06:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trying to get STACKLEAK into the kernel [LWN.net] | Apr 19 06:05 | |
| schestowitz | "He went on to explain what he meant by "burned by Linus" in his talk and on his slides. There is strong language in some of Torvalds's replies, "even swearing, which I don't quote" mixed with the technical objections. So people need to put their emotions aside and try to extract the actual complaints from these kinds of messages. Torvalds will also NAK patches without even looking at them, which is difficult to handle, Popov said. It makes | Apr 19 07:03 |
| schestowitz | him wonder if Torvalds is by default irritated by the kernel hardening initiatives." | Apr 19 07:03 |
| schestowitz | Maybe rude only in the professional sense | Apr 19 07:04 |
| schestowitz | but nothing sexist or whatever about it | Apr 19 07:04 |
| schestowitz | maybe he doesn'y trust big piles of code from people he hardly knows | Apr 19 07:04 |
| schestowitz | and as he refuses to quote the "swearing" we don't quite know what it is | Apr 19 07:05 |
| schestowitz | could be "stay the fuck out of my mailbox" | Apr 19 07:05 |
| schestowitz | which he did before | Apr 19 07:05 |
| schestowitz | "There is also new functionality that has been added to the original feature. Trampoline stack support has been added for x86_64, for example. He and Andersen put together some "nice tests" to go with the feature. Laura Abbott added support for arm64 and worked with him on GCC 8 support for the plugin. Two features that were requested by Ingo Molnar have been added: the metrics feature that tracks stack usage in system calls to help | Apr 19 07:06 |
| schestowitz | performance evaluations and a way to disable STACKLEAK at runtime, which Popov said he was opposed to, but Molnar insisted on. The runtime disable is only available if it is configured into the kernel, which it is not by default; that was the compromise that he and Molnar found, Popov said." | Apr 19 07:06 |
| schestowitz | Some of these are with red hat, i.e. ibm | Apr 19 07:06 |
| schestowitz | who is he with? I don't know this firm? where are they from? their business model? | Apr 19 07:07 |
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| schestowitz | some just stick in some code into linux so they can tell support for their snakeoil | Apr 19 07:07 |
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| schestowitz | "There is also new functionality that has been added to the original feature. Trampoline stack support has been added for x86_64, for example. He and Andersen put together some "nice tests" to go with the feature. Laura Abbott added support for arm64 and worked with him on GCC 8 support for the plugin. Two features that were requested by Ingo Molnar have been added: the metrics feature that tracks stack usage in system calls to help | Apr 19 07:07 |
| schestowitz | performance evaluations and a way to disable STACKLEAK at runtime, which Popov said he was opposed to, but Molnar insisted on. The runtime disable is only available if it is configured into the kernel, which it is not by default; that was the compromise that he and Molnar found, Popov said." | Apr 19 07:07 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: very bad sign when they write it in assembly | Apr 19 07:08 |
| schestowitz | I recall some back doors being done that way | Apr 19 07:08 |
| schestowitz | and rejected for that | Apr 19 07:08 |
| schestowitz | I am trying to recall the assembler story from about 15 years ago | Apr 19 07:08 |
| schestowitz | I used to quote that a lot around 2005 | Apr 19 07:08 |
| schestowitz | some dodgy stuff in assembly | Apr 19 07:08 |
| schestowitz | maybe it was sellinux (NSA) | Apr 19 07:09 |
| schestowitz | after grsecurity went around slapping pernes for criticism who would ever trust Brad and chums? | Apr 19 07:09 |
| schestowitz | I wrote to Torvalds some months ago about Google putting NSA stuff in the kernel | Apr 19 07:09 |
| schestowitz | A short while later it was removed | Apr 19 07:10 |
| schestowitz | Google and other GAFAM/PRISM actors cannot be trusted | Apr 19 07:10 |
| schestowitz | https://ponderwall.com/index.php/2019/03/24/linus-torvalds-nsa-backdoor-linux/ | Apr 19 07:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ponderwall.com | Linus Torvalds Was Approached By the NSA For Backdoor in Linux | Apr 19 07:11 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: part way though the stackleak debate linus lets fly at Popov for doing something that had been decided at a confence not to be done any more that was not put into the documentation. | Apr 19 07:17 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: basically there was no way Popov could have known he should not have coded it that way. | Apr 19 07:17 |
| oiaohm | So Linus bad language was not helping the technical arguement in the stackleak case. | Apr 19 07:18 |
| oiaohm | The other thing is once a backdoor is added gets known to the public it normally made disappear. | Apr 19 07:19 |
| schestowitz | maybe when it's too late | Apr 19 07:28 |
| schestowitz | i.e. when some linux releases may already have it | Apr 19 07:28 |
| schestowitz | or suspicion of it | Apr 19 07:28 |
| schestowitz | BTW, what kind of stupid name of stackleak | Apr 19 07:28 |
| schestowitz | sounds like a bug, not a feature | Apr 19 07:28 |
| schestowitz | [correction], what kind of stupid name is stackleak | Apr 19 07:29 |
| oiaohm | grsecurity named it as it in detects stack leaks. | Apr 19 07:32 |
| oiaohm | Yes it is a fairly stupid name. | Apr 19 07:32 |
| schestowitz | wait... | Apr 19 07:32 |
| schestowitz | it's the same thing? | Apr 19 07:32 |
| schestowitz | so it's actually grsecruity? | Apr 19 07:33 |
| oiaohm | Based off pax stackleak was the stackleak Popov was working on. | Apr 19 07:33 |
| schestowitz | if I look at google, stackleak first result is this LWN articles | Apr 19 07:33 |
| schestowitz | a lot of the rest in Russian | Apr 19 07:33 |
| schestowitz | ptsecurity | Apr 19 07:34 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.ptsecurity.com/2018/10/how-stackleak-improves-linux-kernel.html | Apr 19 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ptsecurity.com | Positive Technologies - learn and secure : How STACKLEAK improves Linux kernel security | Apr 19 07:34 | |
| schestowitz | sounds almost like grsecurity | Apr 19 07:34 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.ptsecurity.com/search/label/Microsoft | Apr 19 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ptsecurity.com | Positive Technologies - learn and secure : Microsoft | Apr 19 07:34 | |
| schestowitz | they work on Microsoft crap also | Apr 19 07:34 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft works with NSA on back door access | Apr 19 07:35 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.ptsecurity.com/2012/01/backdoor-in-next-generation-active.html | Apr 19 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ptsecurity.com | Positive Technologies - learn and secure : A Backdoor in the Next Generation Active Directory | Apr 19 07:35 | |
| schestowitz | http://blog.ptsecurity.com/2011/04/backdoor-in-active-directory.html | Apr 19 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ptsecurity.com | Positive Technologies - learn and secure : Backdoor in Active Directory | Apr 19 07:35 | |
| schestowitz | http://blog.ptsecurity.com/2009/11/password-analysis-for-windows-live.html | Apr 19 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ptsecurity.com | Positive Technologies - learn and secure : Password analysis for Windows Live Hotmail users | Apr 19 07:35 | |
| oiaohm | Fairly active group and when grsecuity pulled up sticks and they were not going to have the stuff to secure they own server they started on working on mainlining the best features of grsecurity even where it required some fairly deep rewrites. | Apr 19 07:36 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: stackleak sounds like grsecurity because it based off grsecurity work just reworked to its mainlineable. | Apr 19 07:37 |
| schestowitz | so this is basically grsecurity crap with gpl traps reincarnated | Apr 19 07:37 |
| schestowitz | or reused | Apr 19 07:37 |
| schestowitz | no wonder Torvalds hates it | Apr 19 07:37 |
| oiaohm | Torvalds did not hate it that much over all. | Apr 19 07:37 |
| schestowitz | it won't help that the attitude of gr led to SLAPP, which they lost | Apr 19 07:38 |
| schestowitz | at great expense to Perens | Apr 19 07:38 |
| oiaohm | There were less than 10 places they faild to fix up before it got to Torvalds. | Apr 19 07:38 |
| oiaohm | Biggest thing that make Linus loss it was leaving In I think bugon its the feature that causes the kernel to completely stop in case of detected fault. | Apr 19 07:39 |
| oiaohm | Something that had been put up at the last plumbers conference as not to be done any more but had not made it back into documentation. | Apr 19 07:39 |
| schestowitz | yes, I remember that. oiaohm | Apr 19 07:48 |
| oiaohm | https://kernsec.org/wiki/index.php/Kernel_Self_Protection_Project Really Popov and others are working around this. | Apr 19 07:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kernsec.org | Kernel Self Protection Project - Linux Kernel Security Subsystem | Apr 19 07:48 | |
| oiaohm | Really it been way over due for most of these features to end up mainline. | Apr 19 07:49 |
| oiaohm | Linus has pushed for a lot of them to be turned on by default. | Apr 19 07:51 |
| oiaohm | I would not say Linus hates the ideas of grsecurity he has issues with how some was implemented. Bad language really did not help those fixing up those patches. | Apr 19 07:52 |
| schestowitz | well, sometimes it doesn't harm | Apr 19 08:01 |
| schestowitz | depending what's meant by strong | Apr 19 08:01 |
| schestowitz | I rarely curse, but sometimes I do | Apr 19 08:01 |
| schestowitz | and if they keep wasting his time, he's right to get angry | Apr 19 08:01 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python: Social Media http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122995 [https://pleroma.site/objects/682ff4ef-521f-4685-977c-4f3349859ef8] | Apr 19 09:18 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122997 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c7facfbd-bea6-4a70-a79b-a567303ffa7f] | Apr 19 09:28 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Introducing Mozilla WebThings http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122998 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4f587534-c9ba-4405-8ce6-a6ce31bf9dad] | Apr 19 09:39 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Android Browser Choice Screen in Europe http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122999 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6a852c45-207d-49af-8671-d64197133c1b] | Apr 19 09:45 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open infrastructure, developer desktop and IoT are the focus for Ubuntu 19.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123000 [https://pleroma.site/objects/80a96602-591c-472a-bdd7-fd89cb25758d] | Apr 19 09:49 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Danger Gazers, Sid Meier's Civilization VI and Steam http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123001 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a2a2cd39-faee-4ebd-97ba-6e75fbd33589] | Apr 19 10:01 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: there is the difference between the right to get angry and failing to clear on the point why you are angry. | Apr 19 10:02 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: curse words can in fact get in the way. | Apr 19 10:03 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 9 Essential Linux Classroom Tools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123003 #gnu #linux [https://pleroma.site/objects/9e8e278e-ed39-4048-bbee-24ab42b81c66] | Apr 19 10:27 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora: Fedora Program Management, New PHP RCs and Thoughts on DBUS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123004 #fedora #redhat #ibm #gnu #linux [https://pleroma.site/objects/fa1251f8-42ff-4897-bc77-173156efe8c6] | Apr 19 10:34 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://commitstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Strip-Trop-de-JS-dans-le-web-650-finalenglish.jpg | Apr 19 14:05 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 19 14:05 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19032710 | Apr 19 15:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 19 15:16 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I agree | Apr 19 17:54 |
| schestowitz | I don't condone what he says, never did | Apr 19 17:54 |
| schestowitz | In fact, I often pointed out how rude he was and what would happen if RMS was the same | Apr 19 17:55 |
| MinceR | i don't trust the gr"security" people, they promote snake oil like TPM and Restricted Boot | Apr 19 17:59 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 4 of the Best Web Browsers for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123006 [https://pleroma.site/objects/89f37979-f82b-4f6d-b3a5-8c56b2746ba5] | Apr 19 18:05 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, exactly | Apr 19 18:20 |
| schestowitz | comply or due | Apr 19 18:20 |
| schestowitz | *die | Apr 19 18:20 |
| schestowitz | like uefi without a jumper/switch | Apr 19 18:20 |
| schestowitz | you can also say drm | Apr 19 18:21 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Admin/Programming: GStreamer, Django, OpenJDK and Ansible http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123009 #programming [https://pleroma.site/objects/44a7d1d5-0d9f-4a23-a098-0e08880168a7] | Apr 19 18:34 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian: Dirk Eddelbuettel's Code, Molly de Blanc Becomes Debian Developer, Iustin Pop on Debian DPL Election and Debian Bug Squashing Party http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123010 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5c28be2c-813f-4f38-b35a-14a013906ddd] | Apr 19 18:39 | |
| MinceR | http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2019/04/19/its-better-with-javascript/ | Apr 19 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It's better with Javascript | CommitStrip | Apr 19 18:59 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's the one, yes. | Apr 19 19:00 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/g5E9LLZ.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/MJUXaFW ) | Apr 19 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meanwhile at the Discocat... - Album on Imgur | Apr 19 19:23 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: WWW: Indie Web Server, Administrating Nextcloud and Project Spotlight on Drupal http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123014 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8be93bde-6cf1-4362-9bc1-aef4f19c8cbc] | Apr 19 19:43 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Qt 6 Might Drop Their Short-Lived Universal Windows Platform Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123016 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5e430df5-6f7c-462b-9e8b-61ab0310075c] | Apr 19 19:58 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 10 Best Linux Password Managers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123017 [https://pleroma.site/objects/68f158e4-cca7-44a3-8ed7-67c36d45d16f] | Apr 19 20:01 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software: LibreOffice, X-Gimp, COPR and Tauon Music Box http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123021 [https://pleroma.site/objects/10662f10-c034-4325-9507-c90bdf677442] | Apr 19 21:16 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 19/4/2019: PyPy 7.1.1, LabPlot 2.6, Kipi Plugins 5.9.1 Released http://techrights.org/2019/04/19/pypy-7-1-1/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/37588151-6f06-494f-ba36-41506f5c4766] | Apr 19 21:29 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19032668 | Apr 19 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 19 21:39 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: mother bird | Apr 19 21:39 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 19 21:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: From a Facebook post: | Apr 19 23:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Even with MP3, you aren't guaranteed compatibility with anything no matter how you encode them because name a standards violation and there's a stereo, software player, or car audio system out there that violates it. | Apr 19 23:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With car systems, some Fords up to at least 2008 cannot decode a VBR MP3 if any of the frames are under 128 kbps. I had to help someone get around this bug in their Ford car by specifying that LAME could not create any frames lower than 128 kbps. The encoder will attempt to make the best of this situation by shifting bit reservoir usage to compensate, but it isn't ideal." | Apr 19 23:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "With software players, Microsoft released a broken MP3 decoder with Windows XP that interpreted the standard wrong, rendering some valid files unplayable, and LAME had to implement a workaround that is in there to this day. | Apr 19 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With stereo systems, some can't even handle VBR at all even though it's mandatory in Layer 3, but these are mostly older models." | Apr 19 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "The reason LAME has so many command line arguments is an outgrowth of the fact that the MP3 spec is murky enough even before people make decoders that are just flat out wrong.... :)" | Apr 19 23:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Going way back into the 90s for a moment, when Winamp was a popular music player, they implemented a decoder called Nitrane that introduced unstable pure tones that didn't even exist in the file, and ended up fixing the problem when they just licensed the decoder from FhG." | Apr 19 23:09 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/vv1IeMF.jpg | Apr 19 23:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There was a commercial advertising a song lyrics app that said "If you think Elton John is saying 'Hold me closer, Tony Danza." you needed their app. | Apr 19 23:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's fair enough. But if you think Eric Clapton is asking to be your four legged man, you need FLAC, and perhaps an earwax removal kit. | Apr 19 23:29 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/hDTHWLu.jpg | Apr 19 23:52 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: AMDGPU and X.Org Elections http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123027 [https://pleroma.site/objects/014e8997-6e65-449f-b835-75f1d18e0877] | Apr 20 04:14 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: imapautofiler, Red Hat Decision Manager, AiC, Python-moa, WebAssembly/Python http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123028 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3583933f-de1b-491e-9582-8d6e288debea] | Apr 20 04:19 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNU Spotlight with Mike Gerwitz and Meetup With the FSF's John Sullivan and Donald Robertson http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123029 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6cc14e3e-edcd-4dae-8b99-038e10bf8cef] | Apr 20 04:20 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: That mp3 VBR stuff and some items not handling it was a patent. Yes having to pay for a patent to include that feature. | Apr 20 05:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wasn't there a patent pool where you got all the MP3 patents? | Apr 20 05:21 |
| oiaohm | No there were 3 mp3 patent pools depending on the pool you owned to what features you could implement at not charge. | Apr 20 05:23 |
| oiaohm | Mp3 was a true ugly patent mess until most of the the patents expired. There are some features of mp3 that are not implemented because they are still patented. | Apr 20 05:24 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3_Surround It can be fun trying to play these files properly today. As the patent on this dies in 2025. | Apr 20 05:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MP3 Surround - Wikipedia | Apr 20 05:31 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AK-47 muzzle blast deflecting rain looks cool af - Album on Imgur | Apr 20 14:02 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: So? | Apr 20 14:17 |
| MinceR | looks nice | Apr 20 14:18 |
| XRevan86 | https://smbc-comics.com/comic/soul-2 | Apr 20 14:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Soul | Apr 20 14:38 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: weird effect | Apr 20 14:39 |
| schestowitz | but gun fetish | Apr 20 14:39 |
| MinceR | does appreciating the effect imply having a gun fetish? | Apr 20 15:09 |
| schestowitz | can be misinterpreted as that | Apr 20 15:38 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/Xw9IEru.jpg | Apr 20 16:31 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/YY2m0sl.jpg | Apr 20 16:50 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/KukYfOm.gif ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Nt5ixCE ) | Apr 20 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Always stay flexible. Stretch a bit. - Album on Imgur | Apr 20 17:54 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123033 [https://pleroma.site/objects/20dfabf1-5429-47ab-b180-bc3a830adbb4] | Apr 20 18:24 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New Features Coming to Debian 10 Buster Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123037 [https://pleroma.site/objects/25fc79d6-9be6-4201-9796-2a7fb9692ea4] | Apr 20 18:45 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Jonathan Carter: Debian project leader elections 2019 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123040 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6ea83c1a-3f1f-4bb6-bba8-229d7ca78269] | Apr 20 19:24 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The PinePhone Linux Smartphone Dev Kit Can Run Wayland's Weston http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123041 [https://pleroma.site/objects/49aec8bc-24ab-42f6-b421-70db9b748a6b] | Apr 20 19:28 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MP3 Surround doesn't seem so important. | Apr 20 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In MPEG 1, MPEG Audio Layers can't even do surround. In MPEG 2, only Layer 3 can. | Apr 20 19:33 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/U0NrqrN ( https://i.imgur.com/ZJBntkV.mp4 ) | Apr 20 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I love Japan - Album on Imgur | Apr 20 19:35 | |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/VVlhl7n.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/1lWwwAF ) | Apr 20 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-To stay awake - Album on Imgur | Apr 20 19:55 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123044 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1ac03435-47a0-4109-8248-1f8d570b1bfb] | Apr 20 19:59 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19032614 | Apr 20 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 20 21:01 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c5gnQrAN6o | Apr 20 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Videogame Heroes Should NEVER Save The Princess (Pixel Pete) - YouTube | Apr 20 21:22 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19032610 | Apr 20 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 20 21:46 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/3BWfGUD.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/2cVkz7s ) | Apr 20 22:35 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19041523 | Apr 20 22:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 20 22:53 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: -18. *They* want to hide the truth from us | Apr 20 22:54 |
| XRevan86 | wake up, sheeple | Apr 20 22:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 20 22:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 21 00:39 | |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | Apr 21 04:01 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: seb! | Apr 21 04:21 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: your awake hmm | Apr 21 05:24 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Manchester in October ! | Apr 21 05:27 |
| schestowitz | what happens then? | Apr 21 05:31 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: OGG Camp | Apr 21 05:32 |
| sebsebseb | Manchester this year | Apr 21 05:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: you still live in Manchester ? | Apr 21 05:32 |
| sebsebseb | how come your on this early | Apr 21 05:32 |
| sebsebseb | up early or on late ? | Apr 21 05:33 |
| schestowitz | went to sleep early | Apr 21 05:47 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ah right | Apr 21 05:57 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I have not | Apr 21 05:57 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uh now hitting me a bit, that I been awake since some time yesterday afternoon | Apr 21 05:57 |
| sebsebseb | but it's nearly 6am, so the nera by shop should be openign up again soon | Apr 21 05:58 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anwyay you should if I ever go to Manchester, to come visit you, well this year could be it then ! | Apr 21 05:58 |
| sebsebseb | you said | Apr 21 05:58 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Someone ripped the original Stop Making Sense soundtrack off the Blu Ray disc over toslink. | Apr 21 06:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They got the whole album and it's the original mixes. This never got released to any CD like this. | Apr 21 06:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Okay, I need to put this on my phone. | Apr 21 06:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They even put Big Business and I Zimbra back in at the end. | Apr 21 06:21 |
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| schestowitz | Gource LF | Apr 21 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > Linux is a huge kernel, really enormous, and the amount of work being | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > done is mind boggling. Gource provides way too much information and | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > visual analysis won't provide much. Nor will any other kind of manual | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > analysis. But here's how it's done: | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > git clone | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git; | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > cd linux-stable; | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > $(gource --log-command git) > ../linux-project.log | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > gource --start-date 2017-09-01 --time-scale 4 \ | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > --fullscreen ../linux-project.log | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > It takes a long time to build up to autumn 2018 even at high speed. | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > Maybe that will give someone some ideas on what kind of analysis can be | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > done easily to identify what kind of damage, if any, is visible from the | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | > CoC. | Apr 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | I saw some analyses to that effect, but they mostly focus on language rather than what lack of speech (resistance) enables to sneak in. In the form of code. | Apr 21 10:02 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: part of the problem is a lot of the changes about language in submitted code with lower tollerence to swear words and the like goes back before the code of conflit(yes the one before the code of conduct). | Apr 21 11:16 |
| oiaohm | The code of conduct changes have been more about the mailing list. Thinking that 90%+ of Linux kernel developers are paid to work on the Linux kernel they are not going to change what they are doing no matter how extreme the rules are. | Apr 21 11:17 |
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| MinceR | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123050 | Apr 21 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The NULL TTY Driver Is Coming To The Linux 5.2 Kernel | Tux Machines | Apr 21 12:09 | |
| MinceR | i see depending on cancerd for console is coming :> | Apr 21 12:09 |
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| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | here you go: | Apr 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | new directions for techrights (6 pages, pdf and odt) | Apr 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | the links are highly recommended if/when you have time. they are all related to the present state of things. i mean, not the video of the parrot singing or the kid dancing, but the others should be relevant. those two were for fun. | Apr 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Excellent. If you can change to upper/lowercase and add hyperlinks as HTML, then we can publish this as a guest post. Would that be possible? | Apr 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | outcome: | Apr 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) - 2 minutes ago | Apr 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | A Reader’s Suggestion: Directions for #Techrights http://techrights.org/2019/04/21/directions-for-techrights/ | Apr 21 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Reader’s Suggestion: Directions for Techrights | Techrights | Apr 21 12:21 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: can you elaborate on the connection? | Apr 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | null tty I mean | Apr 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | maybe something we can and should write about | Apr 21 12:22 |
| MinceR | looks like its purpose is so that they can remove the usable console driver(s) from the kernel | Apr 21 12:22 |
| MinceR | then again, i could be wrong and this could be a different console | Apr 21 12:22 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19041134 | Apr 21 12:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 21 12:24 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: if you can research this further, that would be awesome and something to report on | Apr 21 12:34 |
| MinceR | https://hugelol.com/lol/595258 | Apr 21 13:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | the future is now | Apr 21 13:26 | |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/JtK1OHV.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/MhmLIAl ) | Apr 21 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Learning how to catch a toy. - Album on Imgur | Apr 21 13:38 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what talking about the add of ttynull? | Apr 21 13:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that in fact fixes a history sysvinit script screw up on systems without a console. | Apr 21 13:49 |
| oiaohm | Mind you it took some time the first debate I saw for a null tty was 1995. | Apr 21 13:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: haha | Apr 21 13:52 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: what do you make of it | Apr 21 13:52 |
| schestowitz | will it make systemd a dependency for some shells? | Apr 21 13:52 |
| oiaohm | Its in fact a fix for sysvinit. | Apr 21 13:53 |
| oiaohm | and other init systems like it. | Apr 21 13:53 |
| oiaohm | systemd due to how it works really does not care if the console is there or not. | Apr 21 13:53 |
| oiaohm | If there is no really tty systemd just has uses a pty instead so everything running inside perfectly happy. | Apr 21 13:54 |
| oiaohm | really/real | Apr 21 13:54 |
| oiaohm | Issue was /dev/console symlinked to /dev/null and scripts expecting a tty on /dev/console so query console and get garbage. | Apr 21 13:55 |
| MinceR | seemed more like they couldn't do the ioctls they wanted | Apr 21 13:56 |
| MinceR | /dev/null isn't famous for giving you garbage :> | Apr 21 13:56 |
| oiaohm | Exactly using tty ioctls on /dev/null does not work well. | Apr 21 13:56 |
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| oiaohm | https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/tty.git/commit/?h=tty-next&id=3117ff13f104e98b05b61e19cc754d1377e92e15 the patch is clear it for script based init systems going badly wrong. | Apr 21 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/gregkh/tty.git - TTY/Serial driver development tree | Apr 21 13:57 | |
| oiaohm | due to scripts attempting tty actions on /dev/null. | Apr 21 13:57 |
| ---shawn_ is now known as scientes | Apr 21 13:58 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.axis.com the company behind the patch. Yep linux based security cameras of course they don't always have console at all. | Apr 21 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Axis Communications - Leader in network cameras and other IP networking solutions | Axis Communications | Apr 21 13:59 | |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 21 13:59 |
| oiaohm | Its basically a fix for script based init systems. This might cover openrc as well. | Apr 21 13:59 |
| oiaohm | when they are used in horrible embedded. | Apr 21 14:00 |
| oiaohm | Really I cannot think of a valid desktop case to have /dev/console as null device. | Apr 21 14:01 |
| oiaohm | Even server is questionable. | Apr 21 14:01 |
| oiaohm | The other thing is even that they add console=ttynull console=null will still to its old evil of linking /dev/console to null and letting the hell fall where it may. | Apr 21 14:05 |
| MinceR | or they could just do something like console=ttyS0 | Apr 21 14:20 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: seems this /dev/console is not the same as the virtual console | Apr 21 14:21 |
| MinceR | it's a tty which could theoretically be pointed anywhere | Apr 21 14:21 |
| schestowitz | ok, thanks | Apr 21 14:27 |
| schestowitz | I too interprety tty as vt | Apr 21 14:27 |
| schestowitz | *interpret | Apr 21 14:28 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/595332.png | Apr 21 14:51 |
| MinceR | https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/physics-is-pointing-inexorably-to-mind/ | Apr 21 14:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.scientificamerican.com | Physics Is Pointing Inexorably to Mind - Scientific American Blog Network | Apr 21 14:52 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What are they trying to say? | Apr 21 14:54 |
| MinceR | in which one? | Apr 21 14:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In the article. | Apr 21 14:54 |
| MinceR | that it seems like the physical world of matter we appear to experience is more of an abstraction of a reality that is made of information | Apr 21 14:55 |
| XRevan86 | We scan reality and then act on the information gathered. | Apr 21 14:56 |
| XRevan86 | even though we receive only information and not the direct realness of reality… | Apr 21 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | realness is more important, because information is merely a reflection of it, which we have an obligation to maintain as accurate | Apr 21 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | Because information of a tiger won't eat ya, a real tiger would | Apr 21 14:58 |
| MinceR | it's not information _of_ a tiger, it's information that happens to _be_ a tiger | Apr 21 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, I see, it's about the concept of what is the objective reality itself | Apr 21 15:01 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 21 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | Still, only physical matter constructed in a tiger-like way is what's going to eat ya %) | Apr 21 15:01 |
| MinceR | that physical matter may well be an illusion | Apr 21 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | > Indeed, according to information realists, matter arises from information processing, not the other way around. Even mind—psyche, soul—is supposedly a derivative phenomenon of purely abstract information manipulation. | Apr 21 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | oh boy | Apr 21 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This looks like a discussion on definitions and categories | Apr 21 15:04 |
| XRevan86 | whatever | Apr 21 15:04 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem like that to me | Apr 21 15:04 |
| MinceR | more like what follows from all those weird quantum-mechanical effects that were found | Apr 21 15:05 |
| MinceR | that make reality look like a simulation | Apr 21 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This debates the concept of realness. | Apr 21 15:06 |
| oiaohm | Really the weird of quantum mechanical could be that we somehow have missed a complete force of the universe. | Apr 21 15:10 |
| oiaohm | The horrible would be if the universe is a complete paradox. As in the Universe exists because something exists to observe it. And we exist because something observed. So material can be broken down insane number of times because we are looking? | Apr 21 15:13 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: That's a way too… egocentric way of looking at the universe. | Apr 21 15:23 |
| XRevan86 | As if in the Universe's perspective humans are more special than a pile of dust. | Apr 21 15:24 |
| XRevan86 | So that we have a very special status of being observers who make it be. | Apr 21 15:24 |
| XRevan86 | and not just some elaborate organisation of matter | Apr 21 15:25 |
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| XRevan86 | My view completely strips humanity of its rank as a navel of the Universe. | Apr 21 15:34 |
| XRevan86 | I see it as this: we can do things in the Universe, affect it in any way we want, but just us being here makes no difference whatsoever. | Apr 21 15:36 |
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| XRevan86 | except for our metabolism moving matter and energy around, of course | Apr 21 15:36 |
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| oiaohm | XRevan86: I did not say we were the only observers. | Apr 21 15:44 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: But you did imply that we are observers. | Apr 21 15:45 |
| XRevan86 | and that this status means something | Apr 21 15:45 |
| XRevan86 | my assertions can be extrapolated on any other species living in this universe | Apr 21 15:45 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: what would make us special is unlike the all the other natural obervers we are looking closer and closer. | Apr 21 15:46 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: the worse nightmare is by being obervers we are rewriting the rules of the universe. | Apr 21 15:46 |
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| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Except that we haven't always done that, and this had no impact whatsoever | Apr 21 15:46 |
| *XRevan86 looks out the window | Apr 21 15:47 | |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: have we? | Apr 21 15:47 |
| oiaohm | Proving if we have or have not would be insanely hard. | Apr 21 15:47 |
| oiaohm | If the universe is a form of paradox. We would be hoping its not. | Apr 21 15:48 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: navels are overrated | Apr 21 15:48 |
| oiaohm | Lets say we absolutely work out that everything is energy and due to power to alter the rules exist we magically nuke solid matter and that was because we were stupid enough to look that close. | Apr 21 15:49 |
| oiaohm | If god exists would would put it past him having a horrible practical joke sense as a lot of humans do and basically chinese finger trap the complete universe. | Apr 21 15:50 |
| MinceR | at least there would be a purpose to it | Apr 21 15:50 |
| MinceR | and the universe would cease to exist once that purpose is reached | Apr 21 15:50 |
| oiaohm | Yep and create another one and the the next lot none the wiser. | Apr 21 15:51 |
| oiaohm | And get to play the joke all over again. | Apr 21 15:51 |
| MinceR | we can't know that | Apr 21 15:51 |
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| oiaohm | Of course leave us with the means to wild guess it for gods fun of course | Apr 21 15:51 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CGMWlXosp4 | Apr 21 15:59 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19041115 | Apr 21 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 21 16:08 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I think you've shared this photograph before. | Apr 21 16:09 |
| MinceR | i think i shared a similar but different one | Apr 21 16:09 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: I just wonder if this was a design choice or a salvage operation. | Apr 21 16:12 |
| MinceR | not sure how this salvages anything | Apr 21 16:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe it was so poorly planned that they had to do it this way just to get the stairs to every door. | Apr 21 16:13 |
| XRevan86 | possibly with the staircases at the angle they already had at their disposal | Apr 21 16:14 |
| MinceR | i see | Apr 21 16:14 |
| MinceR | are staircases pre-cast from concrete or something? | Apr 21 16:14 |
| XRevan86 | they seem solid | Apr 21 16:16 |
| *XRevan86 dunnos | Apr 21 16:16 | |
| XRevan86 | or maybe it was their innovative way of avoiding stairs that are too steep %) | Apr 21 16:17 |
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| schestowitz | Tottenham L. ManUtd L. Arsenal L. And 3rd-6th place remain a case of BINGO. | Apr 21 17:47 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/StallmanWasRight/comments/be6ndq/gnulinux_is_being_eaten_alive_by_large/ | Apr 21 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | GNU/Linux is Being Eaten Alive by Large Corporations With Their Agenda : StallmanWasRight | Apr 21 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Embrace, Extend, Extinguish | Apr 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Was a popular description of Microsoft practices in the '90's, and it seems like their classic approach is still alive and well. | Apr 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz | "I wonder how many upvotes stem from people agreeing with the headline but not reading this poorly written article..." | Apr 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz | The thing is fucking hard to read it is so bad. | Apr 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz | A sort of corporate takeover, or moneyed interests at the expense of our freedom, can be seen as a ‘soft coup’ whose eventual outcome would involve all or most servers in ‘the cloud’ (surveillance with patent tax as part of the rental fees) and almost no laptops/desktops which aren’t remotely controlled (and limit what’s run on them, using something like UEFI ‘secure boot’) | Apr 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz | "UEFI secure boot is absolutely fine unless the OEM fucks it up, blame the OEM not the tech." | Apr 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz | "sure it reads like a dystopian novel but those things aren't that preposterous. | Apr 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz | "*raises hand*" | Apr 21 18:13 |
| schestowitz | "-tips tinfoil fedora- @ u/speckz" | Apr 21 18:13 |
| schestowitz | "Holy clickbait batman" | Apr 21 18:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Why is this crap posted here? | Apr 21 18:13 |
| schestowitz | This page is full of the most insane rambling and unfounded garbage. | Apr 21 18:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | It's rambling garbage (in terms of writing quality), but if you hold your nose and read through it, some of it isn't actually insane or unfounded. | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | The TL;DR is that the author is concerned about the sorts of things that the GPLv3 and/or Affero GPL were created to address, such as lack of patent licensing or software-as-a-service rendering the freedoms the GPL grants moot. (Unfortunately, he fails to identify the fact that the kernel isn't GPLv3 as the root cause of the problem.) | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | He also asserts that the Linux Foundation has basically become corrupted, especially since Microsoft was allowed to join. Accusations include: | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | It's misusing its money by paying its administration more than it pays Linus Torvalds. | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | It's failing to properly protect Linux from patent-related Microsoft FUD. | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | It's too political and pro-corporate. | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't like the code of conduct. | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | He also almost achieves some actual insight when he talks about how patent pools are actually pro-software-patent (a bad thing), but fails to explore the topic sufficiently. | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | By the time it gets to the last paragraph (the one with a bunch of "[...]" for some reason), it's too incoherent to make any sense of at all. | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | (Edit: formatting) | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | "I agree about the Linux Foundation. It's a hot mess right now" | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | "OSI's weekly meetings take place at the FSF. Management lies to RMS about it." | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | "That is impressive given that the meetings are monthly and that there are only two in-person meetings per year." | Apr 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz | "Maybe this isn’t the right place to ask, but I often see people drawing significant distinctions between free and open source. Can anyone point me to some resources that discuss the history and distinction in more detail? I used to think this wasn’t a distinction worth making, but I’m growing more concerned and would like to build a real understanding.' | Apr 21 18:15 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/StallmanWasRight/comments/be6ndq/gnulinux_is_being_eaten_alive_by_large/ | Apr 21 18:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | GNU/Linux is Being Eaten Alive by Large Corporations With Their Agenda : StallmanWasRight | Apr 21 18:15 | |
| schestowitz | Misconceptions: | Apr 21 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Free software is copyleft, open source is permissive (non-copyleft) (This is somewhat true indirectly, as a matter of philosophy, as I'll get to later) | Apr 21 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Free software means it doesn't cost money | Apr 21 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Open source just means you can look at the source code | Apr 21 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Like some other replies have said, free software and open source mean almost the same thing in practice, but the difference is in philosophy. Essentially, the free software movement started in 1983, with the GNU project, whose goal was to create an operating system composed only of free software, that the user could inspect, modify, and share at will. The open source movement came later, in 1998, and started at a "strategy session" | Apr 21 18:15 |
| schestowitz | discussing how to adapt the free software development approach in a "business-friendly" way. In essence, "open source" is the result of software companies coopting free software to serve their own business ends. | Apr 21 18:15 |
| schestowitz | As to the practical effects of this philosophical difference: Proponents of "open source" champion it as a more effective means of developing "almost everything," as Tom Preston-Werner (founder of GitHub) puts it. "Almost everything" means anything that does not "represent core business value." In practice, this means frameworks, libraries, middleware, and server infrastructure. This is why JavaScript frameworks and build tools are a dime a | Apr 21 18:16 |
| schestowitz | dozen yet the "Linux" desktop continues to struggle. Ever wonder how Android is supposedly more "open sourcey" than Windows and yet feels much more locked down? Or how "Linux" can thrive on "the cloud" while our privacy and digital freedoms become ever more curtailed? This is why. | Apr 21 18:16 |
| schestowitz | And, when these people suddenly decide that these things can "represent core business value," they invent ridiculous things like "Commons Clause" to try to re-proprietarize it while claiming to be vaguely "open-" something or other. | Apr 21 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Edit: From that same blog, how NewPipe represents the best of free software and how it compares to the proprietary app. NewPipe is pro-user and the proprietary app is anti-user. The proprietary app no doubt contains many lines of "open source" library and framework code, but that means nothing to the user. | Apr 21 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | "Open source frees the developers to use all the code they want, however they want, in creating a product for themselves and end-users. Freedom on the creation end for that small fraction of the world engaged in software development. Free Software is end-user control over their own private-property: their computer hardware. You needn't be a software developer to experience the benefits of liberation, since you are entitled to full | Apr 21 18:16 |
| schestowitz | transparency by access to all the source. Free software gives the vast majority security in being able to, at least, pay whoever they want to audit or reprogram anything whatever in their computer, unbeholden to any single corporation." | Apr 21 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dKmkcadmIu8 | Apr 21 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richard Stallman's TEDx video: "Introduction to Free Software" - YouTube | Apr 21 18:16 | |
| schestowitz | Explication from the man itself about the difference between free software and open source | Apr 21 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | "A lot of stuff was open source before Microsoft, it just wasn't free, you still had to pay to use it legally/own a copy. There wasn't internet around to "pirate" that stuff massively either. Unix was totally open source. You paid for it and it came with the source code inside the "package".' | Apr 21 18:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Unix was totally open source. | Apr 21 18:16 |
| schestowitz | The open-source movement was, in fact, a response to many vendors' implementations of Unix not being open-source. BSD was open, but there were/are a whole host of non-free, proprietary Unixes, including AIX, Xenix, Irix, HP-UX, etc. And the BSD license was problematic for free software advocates, which is why the GNU project was born in the first place. | Apr 21 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | The guy is also a huge paranoid anti-microsoft person. | Apr 21 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Like don't get me wrong MS do some awful stuff but often it's more paranoia and less bounded by reality. | Apr 21 18:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:17 |
| schestowitz | "Many of us remember the 1990s. Microsoft is no choir boy." | Apr 21 18:17 |
| schestowitz | "Where did I say it was?" | Apr 21 18:17 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft has not changed. "Open Source" has." | Apr 21 18:17 |
| schestowitz | ""Some of us remember WW2, Germany is no choir boy."" | Apr 21 18:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:19 |
| schestowitz | "Some of us remember WW2, Germany is no choir boy." | Apr 21 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Godwin's Law? Anyway, Germany is no longer run by Nazis. Hasn't been since 1945. Yet Microsoft still acts badly, just look at how Win10 tracks user behavior and thereby violates privacy. | Apr 21 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Germany's worst atrocity these days is Alsatian food. Which, I might add, should perhaps get them a culinary rights violation from the UN. But then they'd have to hit the UK for their fish and chips first. And by that time we'd have a general UNExit. | Apr 21 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | "Microsoft also doesn't have the same CEO, or certain shareholders since the 90s either lmao" | Apr 21 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | Free as in speech, not free as in beer. | Apr 21 18:20 |
| schestowitz | https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html | Apr 21 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | Why Open Source Misses the Point of Free Software - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation | Apr 21 18:20 | |
| schestowitz | The term “free software” is prone to misinterpretation: an unintended meaning, “software you can get for zero price,” fits the term just as well as the intended meaning, “software which gives the user certain freedoms.” We address this problem by publishing the definition of free software, and by saying “Think of ‘free speech,’ not ‘free beer.’” | Apr 21 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Stallman is unambiguous on that, but it's still an easy mistake to make. | Apr 21 18:20 |
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| schestowitz | It is a distinction worth making if you care about technicalities (and many people in this field do). Most free (libre) software is open source, and a large part of open source software is free or almost free. | Apr 21 18:20 |
| schestowitz | As Stallman himself puts it (IIRC) it's more a matter of intentions. Those who advocate for open source see it mainly as a tool to make better software: if more people can see the code, it's more likely to find bugs or security issues, and people will trust it more. Free software advocates see the advanage of open source, but for them it's more a philosophical matter, freedom for freedom's sake: if you run code on your machine, you must be | Apr 21 18:20 |
| schestowitz | able to know what that code does, and you must be able to learn from it and do whatever you want with it. | Apr 21 18:20 |
| schestowitz | In most of the cases there is no practical difference between open source and free software, so that kind of software is often referred as FOSS (Free and Open Source Software). But nothing prevents you from publishing the code of your software without letting other people legally use or modify it. | Apr 21 18:20 |
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| schestowitz | "I think your answer provides much needed context, but I think it’s also important to mention the difference between the four freedoms and applying a license to your code.' | Apr 21 18:20 |
| schestowitz | "you definitely hit on it by mentioning intentions, just thought it might help to expand a little. | Apr 21 18:20 |
| schestowitz | "You're definitely right, but I lack the knowledge and will to explain that in detail." | Apr 21 18:20 |
| schestowitz | "totally fair, i hope i didn't come off sounding unkind. i just wanted to expand for the op.' | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | "=) | Apr 21 18:21 |
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| schestowitz | One does not imply another. | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Free : do whatever you want with it | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Open source : you can see how it's made. | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | A lot of Linux stuff is free AND open source, but for instance Solaris is open source without being free, if I remember well | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Free also doesn't imply do whatever you want with it. It just means that you don't need to pay to use it, but there might be other license restrictions. | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Edit: Seems like I was wrong on how the terminology is used here. | Apr 21 18:21 |
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| schestowitz | No, you're describing proprietary "freeware," which is a totally different thing (and can in fact be -- and often is -- closed source). | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | "Free Software" necessarily requires that the user have the freedom to run it, modify it and run the modified version, distribute it to others with or without modification, and grant those others the same freedom. | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | this is the “free as in beer” interpretation and misses the gnu point about software freedom as defined by the four freedoms. | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | with truly free software you most definitely can do whatever you want with it. | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | "Yes it does. When we say "Free" we mean "Free as in Freedom." "Gratis" is the word we use for items given away at no direct financial cost.' | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | "I had the "free of rights" things in my head." | Apr 21 18:21 |
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| schestowitz | Amazingly no one has linked you the four freedoms. When we refer to Free Software, what we mean is software that conforms to the four freedoms. The guy you replied to was wrong, and you were (more) right. | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | A program is free software if the program's users have the four essential freedoms: | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0). | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2). | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this. | Apr 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz | ""Free of rights" is a remarkably awkward and confusing way to put it. That phrase sounds more like it means "rights-free" or "without rights." Free[-as-in-freedom] Software is quite the opposite of "free of rights!"'' | Apr 21 18:21 |
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| schestowitz | This is a poor translation of the term used in my country, sorry for the confusion. "Libre de droits" (literally "Free of rights") means something without copyright or anything. | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Sorry for the mistake, I thought the same expression was valid in English | Apr 21 18:22 |
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| schestowitz | Sorry for the mistake, I thought the same expression was valid in English | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | It's confusing in English too. If you just say "Free Software" to people who aren't familiar with the term, they think you mean they don't have to pay for it. So many folks have taken to saying "gratis" to mean free of charge, and "libre" to mean respecting user freedom. I suspect that we're probably not fully using the word "libre" correctly, but it's the term that seems to have caught on. | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | "Libre de droits" (literally "Free of rights") means something without copyright or anything. | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | The English term for that is "Public Domain." | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Incidentally, while all public domain software is Free Software, the terms aren't interchangeable because not all Free Software is public domain. | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | In fact, very little Free Software is public domain. This is because (a) there's no such thing as software that's so old the copyright has expired, and (b) it's surprisingly difficult to actually disclaim copyright. Instead, using the MIT license or some similar permissive license is the next best thing. | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | However, some Free Software licenses, such as the GPL, are materially different from public domain -- or, I would say, go beyond public domain -- by being "copyleft". Public domain software affords maximum freedom to whoever obtains it initially, but that includes the dubious freedom to make it proprietary and thus deprive downstream users of their freedoms. Copyleft Free Software enforces fairness by requiring that all downstream users get | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | the same freedoms that the initial user has, which some (selfish) people construe as reducing the freedom of that initial user. Copyleft definitely can't be public domain, though, because it leverages copyright against itself to make those fairness requirements legally enforceable. | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | "Thanks for your lights" | Apr 21 18:22 |
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| schestowitz | You're welcome. | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | By the way, now that I think about it, I'm deeply troubled by that "libre de droits" terminology. It's almost Orwellian: it's highly misleading to shorten "free of copyright" to "free of rights" because copyright isn't an actual right at all, but instead is a restriction on the rights of others. | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | At least in the USA, copyright is nothing more than a temporary monopoly privilege granted by the government for the purpose of encouraging the creation of works. Essentially, all works inherently belong to the Public Domain, but society lets the creators borrow control of them for a while as an incentive for those creators motivated by profit. | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Admittedly, the French basis of copyright is "droit d'auteur," but fuck that. That whole concept is dangerously wrong because (a) it gives authors too much power to censor public discourse, and (b) if copyright really were an actual property right, it would clearly be unjust for it ever to expire because that would be tantamount to confiscation. But perpetual copyright would cause horrific consequences -- namely, destroying the free exchange | Apr 21 18:22 |
| schestowitz | of ideas -- and is therefore untenable, which means "droit d'auteur" is untenable too. | Apr 21 18:22 |
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