| seller_liar | seller_liar: I will folow a pattern | Jan 20 16:38 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: I will follow a pattern | Jan 20 16:39 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Shill Name | Jan 20 16:39 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Microturf page | Jan 20 16:39 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Simple description | Jan 20 16:39 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Evidences | Jan 20 16:39 |
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| schestowitz | That'll be good | Jan 20 16:39 |
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| schestowitz | Wikimedia can do tables too | Jan 20 16:39 |
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| schestowitz | Let me check | Jan 20 16:40 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: No , I will change the patter | Jan 20 16:42 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Shill name - (linked with personal page) | Jan 20 16:42 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Simple description | Jan 20 16:42 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Microtuft page and other links | Jan 20 16:43 |
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| schestowitz | Belkin President Disavows Fake User Review Offers < http://www.pcworld.com/article/157939/belk... > | Jan 20 16:43 |
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| schestowitz | I'm not sure if they can be believed | Jan 20 16:43 |
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| schestowitz | seller_liar: thanks a lot for this. | Jan 20 16:43 |
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| schestowitz | We'll improve it over time. | Jan 20 16:43 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: You 're welcome | Jan 20 16:44 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: please put restricted control over these pages because m$ shills can attack someday | Jan 20 16:45 |
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| schestowitz | I'm editing the index | Jan 20 16:45 |
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| schestowitz | seller_liar: it might become sub-sonly when it begins being vandalised | Jan 20 16:46 |
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| schestowitz | These pages are not _yet_ public | Jan 20 16:46 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: if possible ,update to gnu fdl 1.3 | Jan 20 16:46 |
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| schestowitz | The other wikis I have in other domains get vandalised so I locked them | Jan 20 16:46 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: ok | Jan 20 16:46 |
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| schestowitz | Done. | Jan 20 16:47 |
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| schestowitz | 1. | Jan 20 16:47 |
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| schestowitz | 1.3 | Jan 20 16:47 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: thanks! | Jan 20 16:47 |
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| schestowitz | You can grab anything you like | Jan 20 16:48 |
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| schestowitz | The more people are made aware, the better | Jan 20 16:48 |
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| schestowitz | Most of the Wiki is currently a workspace to organise evidence of Microsoft's crimes. | Jan 20 16:48 |
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| schestowitz | it'll increasingly serve also as an index to BN posts (about 5400 of them) | Jan 20 16:48 |
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| schestowitz | + about 10000 antitrust exhibits | Jan 20 16:49 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: the wiki stores all differences? | Jan 20 16:52 |
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| schestowitz | We've just made the front page of Linux Today | Jan 20 17:00 |
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| schestowitz | Lots of people find out the Truth about the Gartner Group | Jan 20 17:00 |
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| schestowitz | seller_liar: yes, everything you put it | Jan 20 17:00 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Finally , this is very good ,ethics in action! | Jan 20 17:01 |
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| schestowitz | That's the beauty of the Wikis | Jan 20 17:01 |
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| schestowitz | We had 13000 page views in the p[ast 12 hours | Jan 20 17:01 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: in m$ shill list put only boycottnovell links ? | Jan 20 17:01 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: for example | Jan 20 17:01 |
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| schestowitz | There is a known Microsoft shills there. | Jan 20 17:02 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Ms shill name (-Personal page) | Jan 20 17:02 |
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| schestowitz | he's trying to attack the evidence. | Jan 20 17:02 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Simples description | Jan 20 17:02 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Boycottnovell evidence | Jan 20 17:02 |
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| schestowitz | Some Munchkins that has harassed Linux Today for /years/ | Jan 20 17:02 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: and microturf page | Jan 20 17:02 |
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| schestowitz | They used to censor him | Jan 20 17:02 |
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| schestowitz | seller_liar: yes, that sounds very reasonable | Jan 20 17:02 |
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| schestowitz | 'Finished' work from the Wiki we can later publish for big(ger) attention | Jan 20 17:03 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Then , the standard will be: | Jan 20 17:03 |
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| schestowitz | I have some more Comes antitrust items coming. | Jan 20 17:03 |
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| seller_liar | Msshill name (link to personal page) | Jan 20 17:03 |
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| seller_liar | simple description | Jan 20 17:03 |
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| seller_liar | microturf page | Jan 20 17:03 |
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| seller_liar | boycottnovell evidences | Jan 20 17:03 |
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| schestowitz | Windows is winning: http://feeds.sfgate.com/click.phd... | Jan 20 17:03 |
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| schestowitz | It spreads. | Jan 20 17:03 |
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| schestowitz | seller_liar: better to link to evidence we have. | Jan 20 17:04 |
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| schestowitz | Like sample of work or antitrust E-mails. | Jan 20 17:04 |
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| schestowitz | In Enderle's case for example we have some 'leaked' E-mails between him and the MS lackeys | Jan 20 17:04 |
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| schestowitz | So that's a major smoking gun that seals the deal... nothing to do with biases in his writings. | Jan 20 17:04 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: wikileaks have some info too | Jan 20 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | I'll add a page for the UK | Jan 20 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | I wants to add some people from the British press | Jan 20 17:05 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: good | Jan 20 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | Buddies of MS.. having meals together | Jan 20 17:05 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Yes , UK have deep conexions with m$ sometimes | Jan 20 17:06 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: It's possible to put the country flag in front of name? | Jan 20 17:07 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Oh no, forgot it | Jan 20 17:07 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: I thinks it 's better to use the current model | Jan 20 17:08 |
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| schestowitz | Which one? | Jan 20 17:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.p... | Jan 20 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | Don't worry too much about layout. It's work in progress. | Jan 20 17:11 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Organize m$ shill acording to countries | Jan 20 17:11 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Ok | Jan 20 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | seller_liar: yes | Jan 20 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | AmericanDream(C) bursts: Acer Gives Warning < http://hp.sys-con.com/node/812127 > | Jan 20 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | IBM.. | Jan 20 17:25 |
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| schestowitz | What an arrogant bunch.. | Jan 20 17:25 |
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| schestowitz | I've just told their VP: "I express my opinion; you disagree and censor me, and that's just not fair." | Jan 20 17:25 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Ibm buys knowledge | Jan 20 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, that's my criticism | Jan 20 17:26 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: ibm taticts are : | Jan 20 17:26 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: start some stupid and obvious research | Jan 20 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | He doesn't want people to see opinions against it | Jan 20 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | So he just mailed me | Jan 20 17:26 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: patent the | Jan 20 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | "Give me a break!" says the subject line | Jan 20 17:26 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: patent the "invention" | Jan 20 17:26 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: HAHA | Jan 20 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | Their other employees send mails too. | Jan 20 17:26 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Attacking you? | Jan 20 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | They want people to suck up to their precious 'IP; | Jan 20 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | Given the quality of some IBM patents, they should be ashamed of themselves | Jan 20 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Jan 20 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | VP even... vice president | Jan 20 17:27 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Ibm have a lot of money ,and buys a lot of knowledge | Jan 20 17:27 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Because this I don like big corporations | Jan 20 17:28 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: All big corporations tries to monopolise everything | Jan 20 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | His censorship is utterly stupid | Jan 20 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | I've just got more mail, re: wikipedia | Jan 20 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | "Their repeated attempts to revise history shows up Wiki as a not too reliable source, maybe shaming them into corrective action" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced... | Jan 20 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | As you know, we had a big post about it in BN | Jan 20 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft's revisionists in Wiipedia | Jan 20 17:28 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: I know ,about this | Jan 20 17:28 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Jimmy hughh | Jan 20 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Jan 20 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | Another person though | Jan 20 17:29 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Post on boycottnovell wiki | Jan 20 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | He was just part of the editing group | Jan 20 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | Some guy with a pseudonym removed it | Jan 20 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | seller_liar: I will | Jan 20 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | I have lots more to add to it.. yet | Jan 20 17:29 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Can you give a list name? I will put in m$ shill lis | Jan 20 17:29 |
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| seller_liar | *list | Jan 20 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | As for IBM, I can't help thinking about the 'masturbating moneys' remark from Linus | Jan 20 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | IBM is pro-software patents | Jan 20 17:30 |
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| schestowitz | Say something against it and they get nervous | Jan 20 17:30 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Of course, Ibm puts 8 or 10 patents everyday | Jan 20 17:30 |
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| schestowitz | In BN we censor NO comment. | Jan 20 17:30 |
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| schestowitz | Wow! 8 patents... how... INN-OVA-TIVE | Jan 20 17:30 |
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| schestowitz | When I patent typing on keyboard while using mouse? | Jan 20 17:30 |
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| schestowitz | Or one-click shopping? Has someone 'owned' it yet? | Jan 20 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2009/0... | Jan 20 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | I apologised for the impulsive comment either way. IBM's 'friend' from the north west (Microsoft) has just found someone to put money in: http://boycottnovell.com/20... | Jan 20 17:34 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: IBM likes economical crisis | Jan 20 17:39 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: Because it absorbs all market and transforms in a big monopoly | Jan 20 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, I know | Jan 20 17:40 |
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| schestowitz | Sweepup time | Jan 20 17:40 |
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| schestowitz | Many people also run to Google's SaaS because this jail is a short-term saving opportunity | Jan 20 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | "APPLE Messiah Steve Jobs has been too sick to work for his toy-making company, but is apparently well enough to work for another Mickey Mouse outfit. Jobs has applied for re-election on the board of Disney." < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new... > | Jan 20 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listconews/s... They have already fired 100,000 in this company | Jan 20 17:43 |
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| schestowitz | Speaking o Big Blur[sic]: Skype joins hands with IBM < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/n... > | Jan 20 17:44 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft drone pings BN: http://idippedut.dk/post/2009/01/20/W... | Jan 20 17:46 |
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| schestowitz | This reminds me to add him to 'poison pen' list | Jan 20 17:46 |
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| *schestowitz added two people. | Jan 20 17:47 |
| seller_liar | IBM is not big blue , is the nazi big beast | Jan 20 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | Ha! | Jan 20 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | Belkin busted after all. | Jan 20 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | "A bloke, possibly called Mark Bayard who, funnily enough, turned out to be a Belkin emplyee, posted the request on Amazon's Mechanical Turk web site. He was rumbled by the Daily Background." < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/499... > | Jan 20 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | The CEO denies it all... makes him look like a liar and jerk | Jan 20 17:49 |
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| schestowitz | This also violates EU laws, so they can be sued | Jan 20 17:49 |
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| schestowitz | Windows kills: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01... | Jan 20 17:50 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: this is the cause of lack of ethics in society | Jan 20 17:51 |
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| schestowitz | They need to release fast for investors. | Jan 20 17:51 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: people don t worry about software which hospital uses | Jan 20 17:51 |
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| schestowitz | Never mind if it's easy to hijack. What matter is that people might pay | Jan 20 17:51 |
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| schestowitz | Sure, they assume the hospital is liable | Jan 20 17:52 |
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| trmanco | LOL | Jan 20 17:52 |
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| trmanco | Moonlight 1.0 is out | Jan 20 17:52 |
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| schestowitz | If you due there because the system is down and there's no surgery, then, welll. too bad | Jan 20 17:52 |
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| trmanco | just in time for the Obama thingy ? | Jan 20 17:52 |
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| schestowitz | It's a "computer problem".. not "Windows problem" | Jan 20 17:52 |
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| schestowitz | Obama spoke about electronic records last night | Jan 20 17:52 |
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| schestowitz | Given the mess that's Windows-based healthcare in the US, this might be a mistake | Jan 20 17:53 |
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| schestowitz | Paper is more reliable then Wintendo machines for dectors | Jan 20 17:53 |
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| schestowitz | They also leak out patient databases. | Jan 20 17:53 |
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| schestowitz | Tomorrow I'll post something approp. about this | Jan 20 17:54 |
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| trmanco | I jusr patched my 2.6.28 kernel to 2.6.28.1 ar schools today | Jan 20 17:54 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: the sad thing is people does not do nothing | Jan 20 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | Allchin et al talk about the Swiss Cheese that's Windows... BUT not in pubilic. | Jan 20 17:54 |
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| trmanco | just* at* | Jan 20 17:54 |
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| trmanco | school* | Jan 20 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | Why patch manually? | Jan 20 17:54 |
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| trmanco | I tuned my config file a little bit more | Jan 20 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | WTF? | Jan 20 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | You hax0r | Jan 20 17:54 |
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| trmanco | still have some errors but it boots | Jan 20 17:55 |
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| trmanco | gem isn't working at full on the i945 intel card | Jan 20 17:55 |
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| schestowitz | Another goodbye to bubbles: Empire Direct goes titsup < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/... > | Jan 20 17:55 |
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| trmanco | but you can see a good graphic improvement | Jan 20 17:55 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: hey trmanco | Jan 20 17:56 |
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| schestowitz | Not many computer businesses will survive this year, esp. consumer electronics and all that, as opposes to services | Jan 20 17:56 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: can you update octaiver matt profile? | Jan 20 17:56 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, I like doing it my way, It's cool, and you have your own custom kernel | Jan 20 17:56 |
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| trmanco | I started compiling my own kernel at 2.6.28 | Jan 20 17:56 |
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| schestowitz | Whoa | Jan 20 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | The Belkin CEO lied | Jan 20 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | This is priceless. | Jan 20 17:57 |
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| trmanco | so I'm a newbie at kernel compiling, but I can get it to minimally function correctly | Jan 20 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | Belkin boss 'extremely sorry' for cash-for-good-reviews plan < http://www.reghardware.co.uk/... > | Jan 20 17:57 |
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| trmanco | seller_liar, that troll | Jan 20 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | Earlier he denied all the allegations | Jan 20 17:57 |
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| trmanco | don't feed crap | Jan 20 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | They should be sued | Jan 20 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | Who would sue them though? | Jan 20 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | "According to an open letter from Belkin big cheese Mark Reynoso, the "unethical practice" was conducted by "one of our employees", who offered cash in exchange for good reviews." | Jan 20 17:58 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.p... | Jan 20 17:58 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: please look and update octaiver profile | Jan 20 17:58 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft must be doing this too... and many other companies too | Jan 20 17:58 |
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| schestowitz | Can't trust reviews on the Web. | Jan 20 17:58 |
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| trmanco | LOL | Jan 20 17:58 |
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| schestowitz | In Google Groips, my profile got rating-spammed too | Jan 20 17:58 |
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| trmanco | meh | Jan 20 18:00 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: put the link site of octaier in wiki | Jan 20 18:01 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: I don t remember | Jan 20 18:01 |
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| trmanco | seller_liar, neither do I, but I can look for it, just wait until I finish reading COLA | Jan 20 18:02 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: please cite the octaiver homepage here | Jan 20 18:04 |
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| seller_liar | schestowitz: I have forgot the homepage link | Jan 20 18:05 |
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| trmanco | yep, I'll paste that crap here | Jan 20 18:05 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: thanks! | Jan 20 18:05 |
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| trmanco | It is running on Windows+IIs | Jan 20 18:05 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: probably | Jan 20 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php?... | Jan 20 18:06 |
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| trmanco | seller_liar, it really is, I checked | Jan 20 18:06 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: please give me the link | Jan 20 18:10 |
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| trmanco | wait | Jan 20 18:11 |
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| trmanco | seller_liar, you sure are anxious | Jan 20 18:11 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: ok | Jan 20 18:11 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: no I'm not , I was trying to put a list of bra/pt trolls | Jan 20 18:11 |
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| trmanco | microturfs has com PT trolls | Jan 20 18:12 |
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| schestowitz | FULLSix? | Jan 20 18:13 |
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| trmanco | http://www.microturfs.org/ | Jan 20 18:13 |
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| schestowitz | FullSIX? | Jan 20 18:13 |
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| trmanco | what is that? | Jan 20 18:14 |
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| trmanco | seller_liar, found it http://www.fanboysdelinux.hpg.com.br/ | Jan 20 18:15 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: thanks! | Jan 20 18:15 |
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| trmanco | seller_liar, there is another one | Jan 20 18:17 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: tell me | Jan 20 18:17 |
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| trmanco | livebetas (dot) com | Jan 20 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/ " Docket Update: New Bankruptcy Filings - UPDATED - AutoZone, Too - Members Only" | Jan 20 18:18 |
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| trmanco | he is not just anti linux | Jan 20 18:18 |
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| schestowitz | Is PJ reluctant to show SCO work in public now? | Jan 20 18:18 |
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| trmanco | he doesn't like macs too | Jan 20 18:18 |
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| schestowitz | Could be a Luddite or a henchman. | Jan 20 18:19 |
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| trmanco | microsoft fanboy | Jan 20 18:21 |
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| trmanco | he is "all about microfoot", he even has a technet sub | Jan 20 18:21 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: livebetas is a phising site | Jan 20 18:21 |
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| trmanco | phising? | Jan 20 18:21 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: the link is correct? | Jan 20 18:21 |
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| trmanco | wait | Jan 20 18:22 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: try livebetas.com | Jan 20 18:22 |
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| trmanco | seller_liar, .net | Jan 20 18:22 |
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| trmanco | sorry | Jan 20 18:22 |
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| trmanco | my mistake | Jan 20 18:22 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: ok | Jan 20 18:22 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: Are there some evidence of this site attacking gnu linux? | Jan 20 18:25 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: It's a heavy pro ms , but I need some evidence of attacking linux | Jan 20 18:25 |
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| trmanco | seller_liar, 1 sec | Jan 20 18:26 |
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| seller_liar | trmanco: ok | Jan 20 18:27 |
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| schestowitz | Caught AstroTurfing: Bad Belkin Bayard Business.. < http://lxer.com/module/newswi... > | Jan 20 18:28 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.thedailybackground.com/2009/01/1... | Jan 20 18:50 |
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| schestowitz | Capital~1 B0rkeden | Jan 20 18:50 |
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| schestowitz | Disappointed Belkin customer can band up and sue the company now for faking status. | Jan 20 18:51 |
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| schestowitz | What Microsoft fans say about imminent layoffs: http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Town_Ha... http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1825 | Jan 20 18:58 |
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| benJIman | http://www.jprl.com/Blog/archive/developm... | Jan 20 19:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/micro... | Jan 20 19:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/... ( Fresh warning on China bird flu) | Jan 20 19:29 |
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| jose__ | schestowitz.. that thing i wrote yesterday doesn't make sense to me this morning.. | Jan 20 19:35 |
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| jose__ | this should be better.. for now.. | Jan 20 19:35 |
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| jose__ | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.p... | Jan 20 19:35 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Jan 20 19:35 |
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| schestowitz | I wondered about this. | Jan 20 19:35 |
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| schestowitz | I was just about the leave (gym closes at 10), but I'm reading this quickly. | Jan 20 19:36 |
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| jose__ | let me know if you think you can tell what the point of the comment is | Jan 20 19:36 |
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| schestowitz | OK | Jan 20 19:37 |
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| trmanco | http://www.heise-online.co.uk/securi... | Jan 20 19:37 |
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| schestowitz | I wonder what it would be liked had Microsoft and Novell merged in 2992 | Jan 20 19:37 |
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| schestowitz | They almost did. | Jan 20 19:37 |
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| schestowitz | jose__: group these comments and send them to me, please | Jan 20 19:38 |
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| trmanco | 2992? | Jan 20 19:38 |
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| jose__ | 1992 | Jan 20 19:38 |
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| schestowitz | 1992 | Jan 20 19:38 |
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| trmanco | ok | Jan 20 19:38 |
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| schestowitz | bbl | Jan 20 19:38 |
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| trmanco | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-7-Beta-... | Jan 20 19:59 |
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| -christel-[Global Notice] Hi all, Everything is back to normal now (services included) -- bgp issues with uunet as the cause of the problem. Apologies for the inconvenience and have a good day. | Jan 20 20:09 |
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| moogstrap | ah, it works now | Jan 20 20:30 |
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| moogstrap | the connection froze the moment I tried to type anything before. So, does RMS fly first-class or not? | Jan 20 20:32 |
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| tessier_ | moogstrap: No | Jan 20 20:37 |
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| moogstrap | oh good | Jan 20 20:37 |
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| moogstrap | now I know | Jan 20 20:38 |
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| moogstrap | I saw an interesting thing about astro-turfing earlier: http://consumerist.com/5134066/belkin-caught-... and http://www.dailytech.com/Belkin+Rep+Accused+o... | Jan 20 20:42 |
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| tessier_ | http://slate.com/id/2209139 Microsoft: Forget Yahoo, buy Palm | Jan 20 20:43 |
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| tessier_ | moogstrap: Yeah, I posted that url yesterday | Jan 20 20:43 |
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| moogstrap | doh | Jan 20 20:44 |
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| moogstrap | I've had a long weekend | Jan 20 20:44 |
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| moogstrap | how about this? win7 as a free upgrade, but it's the only article I've seen on the subject: http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/formats/pc/m... | Jan 20 20:45 |
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| moogstrap | oh wait. no there are a few others too | Jan 20 20:46 |
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| moogstrap | wtf. oh. this is old, old news | Jan 20 20:46 |
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| trmanco | http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/a... | "If you're an <http://identi.ca> or Twitter user, you can direct a | Jan 20 21:08 |
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| trmanco | comment to "obamainaugural" on Twitter asking them why the official | Jan 20 21:08 |
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| trmanco | streaming format is Microsoft's Silverlight and not Ogg Theora. Public | Jan 20 21:08 |
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| trmanco | events like this should be broadcast in publicly accessible free | Jan 20 21:08 |
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| trmanco | formats, not used as levers to gain market share and control over | Jan 20 21:08 |
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| trmanco | citizens for proprietary software companies like Microsoft. | Jan 20 21:08 |
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| trmanco | " | Jan 20 21:08 |
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| trmanco | Digg is suffering from a Digg effect | Jan 20 21:58 |
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| MinceR | digg is suffering from the m$ and crApple fanboy effect | Jan 20 21:58 |
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| trmanco | that too | Jan 20 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | Cousin says: "I guess that most investor portfolios will take a 5% drop today. In case you are not fast at arithmetic, that is a $5000 loss for each $100,000 invested. [...] I can’t help but wonder if this was a negative reaction to Obama’s installation, or due to signs of something else on the horizon, like a couple of big banks about to collapse." | Jan 20 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | MS down 6.5% | Jan 20 22:02 |
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| MinceR | business doesn't like the new corporate puppet? | Jan 20 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | No. | Jan 20 22:04 |
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| schestowitz | My friends get offended when I call him that... though I supported him | Jan 20 22:04 |
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| schestowitz | IBM's VP slagged me off for suggesting this. | Jan 20 22:05 |
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| MinceR | well, he's still better than McBush | Jan 20 22:05 |
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| MinceR | and W | Jan 20 22:05 |
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| MinceR | doesn't make him any less of a corporate puppet though. | Jan 20 22:05 |
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| schestowitz | MS to buy Palm (Linux)? Nonsensical. | Jan 20 22:06 |
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| schestowitz | He needs to sack everyone in the White House... | Jan 20 22:07 |
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| schestowitz | And send Bush to trial. | Jan 20 22:07 |
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| schestowitz | Trial, not prison. | Jan 20 22:07 |
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| MinceR | they can't buy everyone using linux on mobile devices. | Jan 20 22:08 |
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| schestowitz | Though Bush too was a puppet of people who deceived him | Jan 20 22:08 |
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| schestowitz | They too need to be sent to a non-US court like The Hague. | Jan 20 22:08 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: the inauguration is like a sporting event... brought to you by Microsoft executives. | Jan 20 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | Ballmer, Smith, gates and their spouses... among many other corporate people to whom this is slush fund. | Jan 20 22:09 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, There is some footage in OGG | Jan 20 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | NOVL is down 5%... below $3.5 | Jan 20 22:10 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, see: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/advoca... | Jan 20 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: belated? | Jan 20 22:10 |
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| trmanco | don't know what "belated" means | Jan 20 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | Not live in this case? | Jan 20 22:11 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, not sure, I haven't checked | Jan 20 22:18 |
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| schestowitz | brb | Jan 20 22:19 |
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| tessier_ | Experts are warning that hackers have yet to activate the payload of the Conficker virus. | Jan 20 22:41 |
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| tessier_ | I'm hoping for serious collateral damage. | Jan 20 22:41 |
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| MinceR | so am i | Jan 20 22:42 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: unleash Change Powa on 'em. | Jan 20 22:53 |
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| schestowitz | Matt Lee from the FSF: "Both of these are useful measures against C#, and potentially good ways of doing things JavaScript is the best dynamic scripting language, with a sweet spot between familiar syntax and power, and Vala’s idea of translation to C worked well for the old d2c Dylan compiler." http://foocorp.org/products/exploringfreedom/... | Jan 20 22:54 |
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| schestowitz | Jimbo Wales: "Jimmy Carter: “Obama can change our reputation in ten minutes”" http://blog.jimmywales.com/index.php/arc... He changed Wall Street (aka FraudStreet) rpetty fast.... | Jan 20 22:56 |
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| schestowitz | Kelly Fiveash is a bit of a MS pen in The Reg. | Jan 20 22:58 |
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| schestowitz | I sense a strong pattern | Jan 20 22:58 |
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| trmanco | OT: http://www.boycott-canada.com/index.htm | Jan 20 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?... | Jan 20 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | inv(GARTNER)=RENT RAG | Jan 20 23:02 |
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| tessier_ | '"Of course, the real problem is that people haven't patched their software," he added.' -> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/te... | Jan 20 23:02 |
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| tessier_ | No, the REAL problem is that the software sucks. | Jan 20 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | RPC | Jan 20 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe they learned from past experiences... | Jan 20 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | Many MS patches render machines dysfunctional if not unbootable (mostly Vista and SP1) | Jan 20 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | Our post about Get the Facts has impact here too... | Jan 20 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://ostatic.com/blog/ostat... | Jan 20 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | Apache Holds Steady Market Share, Still Dominating Microsoft IIS < http://ostatic.com/blog/apache-holds-steady... > | Jan 20 23:08 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 20 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | The bribing charity killers slash prices too... http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-262969.html (Intel cuts prices by up to 48 percent) | Jan 20 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | Top Android man is leaving.. | Jan 20 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/01/20... | Jan 20 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco might like this: http://www.inatux.com/articles3.php (Short Firefox 3.1 Beta 2 new feature list) | Jan 20 23:25 |
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| moogstrap | another "win7 will kill linux" article. But this time it's Linux and Apple's fault! http://www.serverwatch.com/eur/a... | Jan 20 23:44 |
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| schestowitz | Paul Rubens is not a troll | Jan 20 23:46 |
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| schestowitz | Some people labeled him a shill, but let me read it quickly. | Jan 20 23:46 |
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| schestowitz | Sensationalist from what I can gather... overstating his case to support exaggerated hypothesis (headline) | Jan 20 23:48 |
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| tessier_ | Paul Rubens? Isn't that Pee Wee Herman? | Jan 20 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | Linux, unlike OS X, is not just a desktop platform (in _practice_) | Jan 20 23:48 |
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| tessier_ | Paul Reubens seems to be the correct spelling. | Jan 20 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | How many devices out there run Linux whilst Microsoft shouts frantically about the 5% market share od WincE? | Jan 20 23:48 |
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| moogstrap | he praises Ubuntu et al. It's just the "you guys blew it. Big time" that addled me | Jan 20 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | Remember (from the other day): "Linux has over 50% market share" (DVRs I think) | Jan 20 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | moogstrap: he ALWAYS praises Ubuntu | Jan 20 23:49 |
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| schestowitz | People in some sites I visit blasted him for it | Jan 20 23:49 |
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| schestowitz | This blindness is bad | Jan 20 23:49 |
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| schestowitz | Mandriva is just as good. Ubuntu is overhyped and such reporters perpetuate this hype. | Jan 20 23:49 |
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| moogstrap | yeah | Jan 20 23:50 |
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| moogstrap | but that's everywhere | Jan 20 23:50 |
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| schestowitz | Ubuntu Faster Than Windows XP Feedback < http://www.itworld.com/small... > | Jan 20 23:54 |
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| moogstrap | for good measure: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/So... a cocounter-argument | Jan 20 23:55 |
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| moogstrap | counter even | Jan 20 23:55 |
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| schestowitz | moogstrap: it's a cyclic thing. Like in Microsoft's memos.... it becomes consensus or convention think -- no matter how wrong. | Jan 20 23:55 |
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| schestowitz | *conventional | Jan 20 23:55 |
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| moogstrap | hrmm. you see it a lot on ./ -- for a lot of people, Linux IS Ubuntu | Jan 20 23:56 |
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| moogstrap | /. * | Jan 20 23:56 |
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| schestowitz | They feed the talking points ("Killer(R)") | Jan 20 23:56 |
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| schestowitz | They recite the MicrosoftSlogan(R) | Jan 20 23:57 |
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| schestowitz | Like peopleready. | Jan 20 23:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2007/... | Jan 20 23:57 |
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| schestowitz | "Some dust is being kicked up about a group of bloggers who have accepted payola for endorsing Microsofts ad campaign named ‘People Ready’. The particulars of the indiscreations are being batted around blogger land and some well known journalists have chimed in their thoughts. But the community as a whole seems divided on the subject if ethics for bloggers should apply the same as it does for journalists." | Jan 20 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | From people-read to "Linux killer"? ;-) j/k | Jan 20 23:58 |
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| moogstrap | I think "primetime" is the most hated of all FUD-words. It's mine anyhow | Jan 20 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Jan 20 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | "Ready for desktop" is FUD | Jan 20 23:59 |
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| schestowitz | I've said this for years | Jan 20 23:59 |
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| schestowitz | It poses readiness as a question | Jan 20 23:59 |
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| schestowitz | Is Linux "ready" for the desktop (yet)? | Jan 20 23:59 |
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| schestowitz | Is VIsta? | Jan 20 23:59 |
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| schestowitz | Define ready | Jan 20 23:59 |
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| schestowitz | Are users ready for change? | Jan 20 23:59 |
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| schestowitz | So all these gimmicks have psychological impact on readers | Jan 20 23:59 |
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