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schestowitz__>>> assemble the board to go on top some timeApr 02 05:43
schestowitz__>>> during the next month after the post office situation is figured out here.Apr 02 05:43
schestowitz__>> Thanks for all this information and the links. I'll need to put theApr 02 05:43
schestowitz__>> number together to come up with a cost estimate and see how thatApr 02 05:43
schestowitz__>> compares with a refurbished laptop that already has a screen includedApr 02 05:43
schestowitz__>> and need not an adapter to run as dual provided it's same ol VGA, whichApr 02 05:43
schestowitz__>> is typical with older ones that still have CD-ROM drive.Apr 02 05:43
schestowitz__> CD / DVD is nice but I have a USB based one now.  An advantage with USBApr 02 05:43
schestowitz__> is that it can be removed and stay in storage when not in use.Apr 02 05:43
schestowitz__That, to me, makes not much difference ;)Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__>> A few days ago when I went 'hunting' for food I passed by the store thatApr 02 05:44
schestowitz__>> sells refurbs. It was shut, as I expected. I don't want to shopApr 02 05:44
schestowitz__>> 'preowned' online in case of returns.Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> I was wondering about the idea of another refurb being just as costApr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> effective.  Maybe the shop can be open by appointment.  Way out in theApr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> boondocks that is how most shops operate anyway.Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__I have just put xfce on rianne's old chromebook. I will later see if I can get HDMI adapters.  Maybe online.Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__We use this machine for gym/exercise these days.Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__>> RasPi still sounds like a slight learning curve for me... hence time.Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__>> The benefit, in the long run, is lowered energy use.Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> The learning curve would be the cables.  On the inside, it is justApr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> another Debian derivative.  I know there are some small changes but theApr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> main difference, that it has been ported to ARM, makes no difference.Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__I use an ARM laptop already ;-)Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__It's OK for some tasks, like posting to TM, sites monitoring...Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> The main disadvantage I see is that there are extra adapters and, inApr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> this case, cables needed.  The main advantages would be lower powerApr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> consumption and much less desk space as it could drive two displays.Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> The refurb migh come out ahead.  I'm curious as to the result of theApr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> comparison.Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__Time will tell... I cannot buy much and don't want to handle post, either. Just food.Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__>> I'll ask Rianne when she gets up as she doesn't like too much gear onApr 02 05:44
schestowitz__>> the desk. Maybe I can even repurpose her old Chromebook if I get an HDMIApr 02 05:44
schestowitz__>> adapter.Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> That might be the cheap way to go.  See: https://mrchromebox.tech/Apr 02 05:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mrchromebox.tech | MrChromebox.techApr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> Note that there is a lot of millennial 'curl | sudo bash' shit in thatApr 02 05:44
schestowitz__> site.Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__Yeah, let the Web run commands as root on my machine. Trust them....Apr 02 05:44
schestowitz__Re: FOIA articlesApr 02 05:45
schestowitz__> There are a lot of articles in the FOIA series to clear RMS.  Can youApr 02 05:45
schestowitz__> add links in the more recent ones back to the first ones?   TheApr 02 05:45
schestowitz__> WordPress situation for TR is otherwise unnavigable.Apr 02 05:45
schestowitz__Maybe set up a wiki page instead, then link to it?Apr 02 05:45
schestowitz__>> OK. What wiki pages:Apr 02 06:04
schestowitz__>>Apr 02 06:04
schestowitz__>> RMS/FSF seriesApr 02 06:04
schestowitz__>>Apr 02 06:04
schestowitz__>> Gates seriesApr 02 06:04
schestowitz__>>Apr 02 06:04
schestowitz__>> Maybe combine the two? We need to think of units/topology first.Apr 02 06:04
schestowitz__>>Apr 02 06:04
schestowitz__> Perhaps.  But either way the articles need links forward and backwards.Apr 02 06:04
schestowitz__>  They need to be retrofitted with links to at least the chronologicallyApr 02 06:04
schestowitz__> adjacent articles in the series.  This will also help finding them withApr 02 06:05
schestowitz__> the search engines, but I am primarily interested in discoverability.Apr 02 06:05
schestowitz__> TR is not Facebook, we need to focus on usability so they can find theApr 02 06:05
schestowitz__> information quickly and easily without having to change their train ofApr 02 06:05
schestowitz__> thought away from the topic at hand.  A Steve Krug put it in the titleApr 02 06:05
schestowitz__> of his book on web usability, "Don't make me think"Apr 02 06:05
schestowitz__When future articles link to older ones, they then get listed at the bottom of the older ones.Apr 02 06:05
schestowitz__Maybe we can start producing in another, non-blog form?Apr 02 06:05
acer-boxhttps://twitter.com/SteakFueled/status/1245455592954748930Apr 02 08:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SteakFueled: Bill Gates will go down in history as one of the most evil psychopaths to ever walk this earth. https://t.co/jdx6VkNQFDApr 02 08:19
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schestowitz__>>> Sure but a lot of work has gone into the existing ones.  They needApr 02 08:21
schestowitz__>>> 'patching' to link to each other withing the series.  This is the sameApr 02 08:21
schestowitz__>>> issue as with several other series.  However, the FOIA does not have aApr 02 08:21
schestowitz__>>> table of contents so it would be enough just to link to the earlier one(s).Apr 02 08:21
schestowitz__>> the foia tac is, for the time being the gates fdn. wiki index.Apr 02 08:21
schestowitz__>>Apr 02 08:21
schestowitz__> Can the articles be made to all point to the wiki?  If one article isApr 02 08:21
schestowitz__> found it needs to lead to the others.Apr 02 08:21
schestowitz__Ideally there should be an index at the top, but it's not possible to maintain in one place, so each addition would necessitate many edits -- clearly far from ideal.Apr 02 08:21
schestowitz__>> -viera/#boycottnovell-social-Tux Machines: "My wife was laid off fromApr 02 08:52
schestowitz__>> her work already as an additional burden while I continue to do 100+Apr 02 08:52
schestowitz__>> hour weeks between #Phoronix content and benchmarking"Please supportApr 02 08:52
schestowitz__>> @michaelLarabelBaby to feed!Apr 02 08:52
schestowitz__>>Apr 02 08:52
schestowitz__>> http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010420.html#tApr%2001%2016:17:34Apr 02 08:52
schestowitz__>>Apr 02 08:52
schestowitz__>>Apr 02 08:52
schestowitz__> Does he have a Patreon account?Apr 02 08:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Wednesday, April 01, 2020Apr 02 08:52
schestowitz__maybe, but I reckon existing subs to anything are themselves struggling and might cancelApr 02 08:52
schestowitz__>> Ideally there should be an index at the top, but it's not possible toApr 02 08:54
schestowitz__>> maintain in one place, so each addition would necessitate many edits --Apr 02 08:54
schestowitz__>> clearly far from ideal.Apr 02 08:54
schestowitz__>>Apr 02 08:54
schestowitz__> Maybe point each article, old and new, to the Wiki page on that topic?Apr 02 08:54
schestowitz__Many already do just that actually...Apr 02 08:54
schestowitz__Maybe at the end when the series is 'done' I'll do an index and then add to older posts.Apr 02 08:54
schestowitz__Maybe....Apr 02 08:54
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/1245597212584734724Apr 02 09:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@We3forDemocracy: 😏🙄😑 https://t.co/7L8zgyElCGApr 02 09:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Dealing with religious nuts at times of crisis when people can become de facto biological weapons on two feet https://t.co/U8leGhGiAHApr 02 09:12
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1245572236351692802Apr 02 09:13
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/StarchyArchie/status/1245567489670410242Apr 02 09:13
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/fong_hj/status/1245566389332606982Apr 02 09:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fong_hj: @schestowitz How much meth have you smoked today?Apr 02 09:14
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1245551383392276482Apr 02 09:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fcassia: And the award for the Best Slow-motion Train Wreck goes to.... cc/@njrabit @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven… https://t.co/P0WEznnUwvApr 02 09:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fcassia: And the award for the Best Slow-motion Train Wreck goes to.... cc/@njrabit @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven… https://t.co/P0WEznnUwvApr 02 09:14
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schestowitz__And the award for the Best Slow-motion Train Wreck goes to....Apr 02 09:14
schestowitz__cc/@njrabitApr 02 09:14
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schestowitz__ @lprovenApr 02 09:14
schestowitz__#springbreak #coronavirus #COVIDー19 #genz #morons #SARSCoV2Apr 02 09:14
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/1245548994568187905Apr 02 09:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz WTH is this about?Apr 02 09:15
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JAMstackWarrior/status/1245516314757591040Apr 02 09:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JAMstackWarrior: "In an API-driven world that is increasingly mobile, #JAMstack is well-positioned to become a de facto method for a… https://t.co/NyCRmMRXHtApr 02 09:15
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schestowitz__"In an API-driven world that is increasingly mobile, #JAMstack is well-positioned to become a de facto method for application arch.. @schestowitzApr 02 09:15
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/tzoannop/status/1245477022224265216Apr 02 09:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tzoannop: cc @schestowitzApr 02 09:16
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/NickNovykh/status/1245469741478752257Apr 02 09:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@NickNovykh: @schestowitz Yes, whatever remains of middle class liberals want Sanders.Apr 02 09:17
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schestowitz"Apr 02 13:15
schestowitzFSF has been hell for me.  It's not that the board is compromised; I think [pro-RMS people] still have a majority. [...] I call that BS, but I haven't succeeded in turning anyone's opinion because I'm perceived as RMS's faithful servant or something, as if I didn't have a mind of my own. Still, as the only outspoken defender of RMS, I often get hell from  them, and the rest of the board, scared, doesn't stand up to them, or against Apr 02 13:15
schestowitzthe IMHO false narrative put forth to staff.  I'd have quit the FSF if it weren't for RMS's request for me to hang on, which is understandable: with me, we have a majority of the board on our side. That's little use if others won't act, but at least it limits what the others can do.Apr 02 13:15
schestowitzThe others have to be careful because they know we are a majority; they can't do anything incredibly outrageous, unless it's completely in hiding, or before myself alone, for they also managed to discredit me: other board members didn't know me very well, and with some duplicitous moves, some clever attacks and a number of poor reactions of mine, I'm now perceived as crying wolf too often.  Whenever I feel the tide is turning, some Apr 02 13:15
schestowitzold attack is reheated, or some new complaint allegedly From staff comes up, and then I have to row all the way again :-/Apr 02 13:15
schestowitzAnyway, nobody said it would be easy; I just didn't expect FSF inside would be so hard.  It took me a while to realize that even someone who RMS told me he trusted a lot was actually working to stab his back, and lying to my face while at that.  Very sad, but we'll work that out eventually.  I'm patient, and they can't fool everyone for very long.Apr 02 13:15
schestowitzAnd it's not like I don't make mistakes myself.  I suppose this one may get the circus on fire...Apr 02 13:15
schestowitz"Apr 02 13:15
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schestowitzbut some people might be able to figure out the messengerApr 02 13:15
schestowitzand I suppose it might make them behave better to her/himApr 02 13:16
schestowitz> I'm pretty sure they've already advised xxxxxxx that you've asked for aApr 02 14:00
schestowitz> copy of the proposed contract.Apr 02 14:00
schestowitzCan you somehow find out (this would help us) how many people xxxxxxxApr 02 14:00
schestowitzalready contacted about this?Apr 02 14:00
schestowitzIf you put it cleverly (playful cleverness?)  in words and he does notApr 02 14:00
schestowitzeven reply, then the lack of reply might give us a speculative number. IApr 02 14:00
schestowitzcan do a follow-up article to alert  people.Apr 02 14:00
schestowitzAn hour ago yesterday's article about LOT made it into LXer.Apr 02 14:00
schestowitzI think we need to dig deeper and deeper into this. Don't let themApr 02 14:00
schestowitzbecome evasive as they might find more easy prey.Apr 02 14:00
schestowitz> Second thing. I've told xxxx that I'm completely saturated withApr 02 14:00
schestowitz> wrapping up C-Graph's business plan for a grant application, in additionApr 02 14:00
schestowitz> to planning for the new features for xxxxxx. Accordingly, I'veApr 02 14:00
schestowitz> advised xxxxx that I'll look into OIN and LOT and get back to himApr 02 14:01
schestowitz> whenever I can find the time.Apr 02 14:01
schestowitzThe CEO of OIN phones me several time (he's the one who suggested it).Apr 02 14:01
schestowitzWe spoke in length.Apr 02 14:01
schestowitzSide story: he was the tennis partner of Tim Geithner, the man whoApr 02 14:01
schestowitzenabled the mass plunder of the Treasury well before covid-19.Apr 02 14:01
schestowitzOIN is afraid of Techrights, which used to be pro-OIN until it found outApr 02 14:01
schestowitz'too much'.Apr 02 14:01
schestowitzOIN is with the 'base' that Techrights antagonises. They misuse theirApr 02 14:01
schestowitz'cute' Tux logo to present themselves as something they're not.Apr 02 14:01
schestowitzSuffice to say, OIN's biggest 'handlers' have long wanted to get rid ofApr 02 14:01
schestowitzRMS. They had several 'runs' at it, including an almost successful oneApr 02 14:01
schestowitzin 2009 (we wrote a lot about this back then).Apr 02 14:01
schestowitz> I can tell you this, though: xxxxxx advised me not to read Techrights andApr 02 14:01
schestowitz> to consult xxxxxxx. I replied, asserting that I have no confidenceApr 02 14:01
schestowitz> in the board of the FSF since the removal of RMS from the latter.Apr 02 14:01
schestowitzI have it from the inside that xxxxxx may be one of the backstabbers.Apr 02 14:01
schestowitzI cannot say this publicly yet as it can expose my source.Apr 02 14:01
schestowitz> I'll peruse your articles at techrights.org <http://techrights.org> andApr 02 14:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Techrights | People's rights in the digital age | Plutocracy threatened by freedom, democracy, privacy & civil rightsApr 02 14:01
schestowitz> also consult rms as well as other web sources. I'm not inclined toApr 02 14:01
schestowitz> become a part of anything where Microsoft has a hand. I've opted not toApr 02 14:01
schestowitz> delete my LinkedIn account (which I almost never use anyway) but myApr 02 14:01
schestowitz> instincts are to avoid Microsoft influenced entities at all costs.Apr 02 14:01
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:01
schestowitz> Exactly what were Microsoft and friends trying to do back in September -Apr 02 14:01
schestowitz> get RMS to commit suicide?Apr 02 14:01
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:01
schestowitz> Thank you for Techrights Roy. I can well imagine the pressure youApr 02 14:01
schestowitz> continuously withstand. Godspeed!Apr 02 14:01
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:15
schestowitz> I know a "few" people who also have the impression that xxxxxxx isApr 02 14:15
schestowitz> being handled. If the "handlers" are being advised by intelligenceApr 02 14:15
schestowitz> operatives (and I believe they are) you can bet that there are others onApr 02 14:15
schestowitz> the board who don't even realise that they're being manipulated. ItApr 02 14:16
schestowitz> wouldn't be in the handlers' interest to lay everything bare up front.Apr 02 14:16
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:16
schestowitz> Of course, I presume the biggest "handler" is Microsoft. I'm soApr 02 14:16
schestowitz> disappointed by IBM, and especially RedHat.Apr 02 14:16
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:16
schestowitz> We need to protect RMS - and GNU.Apr 02 14:16
schestowitzI have  many reasons to be sceptical of IBM, which is also a longtime patron of FSF along with Red Hat (even wonder why nothing negative is said about  systemd?).Apr 02 14:16
schestowitzThe FSF never speak about these companies in relation to patent lobbying and policy.Apr 02 14:16
schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/11/28/diversity-forms/Apr 02 14:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Diversity Comes in Many Forms | TechrightsApr 02 14:16
schestowitz> Roy:Apr 02 14:18
schestowitz>  Apr 02 14:18
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:18
schestowitz>     > I'm pretty sure they've already advised xxxxxxx that you've asked for aApr 02 14:18
schestowitz>     > copy of the proposed contract.Apr 02 14:18
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:18
schestowitz>     Can you somehow find out (this would help us) how many people xxxxxxApr 02 14:18
schestowitz>     already contacted about this?Apr 02 14:18
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:18
schestowitz>     If you put it cleverly (playful cleverness?)  in words and he does notApr 02 14:18
schestowitz>     even reply, then the lack of reply might give us a speculative number. IApr 02 14:18
schestowitz>     can do a follow-up article to alert  people.Apr 02 14:18
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:18
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:18
schestowitz> I don't know how many people were contacted by LOT or OIN. xxxApr 02 14:18
schestowitz> contacted me twice. Both emails followed my application for grants,Apr 02 14:18
schestowitz> first to xxxxxxx, then to the DIAL OpenSource Centre at the UN.Apr 02 14:18
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:18
schestowitz> It would seem that grant applicants to xxxxxx and xxxx are invited toApr 02 14:18
schestowitz> join OIN and LOT - as xxxxxx obviously obtained my email address fromApr 02 14:18
schestowitz> both grant applications. It may be that xxxx of xxx andApr 02 14:18
schestowitz>xxxxxxxx are unaware of  the OIN/LOT agenda reportedApr 02 14:19
schestowitz> in Techrights. On the surface both OIN and LOT appear to be greatApr 02 14:19
schestowitz> Free/Libre supportive organisations that any user should want to join.Apr 02 14:19
schestowitz> Roy:Apr 02 14:22
schestowitz>  Apr 02 14:22
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:22
schestowitz>     I have  many reasons to be sceptical of IBM, which is also a longtimeApr 02 14:23
schestowitz>     patron of FSF along with Red Hat (even wonder why nothing negative isApr 02 14:23
schestowitz>     said about  systemd?).Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz>     The FSF never speak about these companies in relation to patent lobbyingApr 02 14:23
schestowitz>     and policy .Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz>     They were happy to see  RMS removed:Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz>     http://techrights.org/2019/11/28/diversity-forms/Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz> I know. Weeks ago, I posted links from techrights to rms (and a fewApr 02 14:23
schestowitz> other GNu developers) pointing out the link between IBM/RedHat andApr 02 14:23
schestowitz> Microsoft.  I pointed out to RMS that the most vocal signatories of theApr 02 14:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Diversity Comes in Many Forms | TechrightsApr 02 14:23
schestowitz> "Joint Statement" Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz> <https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/>Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz> were connected to RedHat and that they were proxies for Microsoft.Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz> RedHat wasn't just happy to see RMS removed. As the poster child forApr 02 14:23
schestowitz> FOSS big business, they were used to front for the Microsoft-IBM machineApr 02 14:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-guix.gnu.org | Joint statement on the GNU Project — 2019 — Blog — GNU GuixApr 02 14:23
schestowitz> as they continued, unsuccessfully, to also oust him as head of GNU. IApr 02 14:23
schestowitz> sent him lots of advice about discussions he should have with hisApr 02 14:23
schestowitz> attorneys etc etc.Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz> Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz> Roy, I'm off to concentrate on wrapping up this business plan. PleaseApr 02 14:23
schestowitz> stay away from covid-19, we need you and techrights.orgApr 02 14:23
schestowitz> <http://techrights.org> to stay strong!!Apr 02 14:23
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schestowitzThanks, xxx.Apr 02 14:23
schestowitzTwo links of interest for you:Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz1) http://techrights.org/2019/01/27/microsoft-as-a-buyer-of-rht/Apr 02 14:23
schestowitz2) http://techrights.org/2019/08/10/microsoft-leads-red-hat-events/Apr 02 14:23
schestowitzOh, actually a third:Apr 02 14:23
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2017/08/31/finjan-blue-and-ibm/Apr 02 14:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Always Remember That Red Hat Also Considered Microsoft as a Buyer | TechrightsApr 02 14:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Sometimes It Feels Like Microsoft — Not IBM — Bought Red Hat | TechrightsApr 02 14:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IBM Helps a Microsoft-Connected Patent Troll Create Another Trolling Branch, Known as Finjan Blue | TechrightsApr 02 14:24
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schestowitz"Apr 02 17:43
schestowitzIts pretty obvious to any reasonable observer that the #forcedNews #media and other actors worked together to help create the situation.Apr 02 17:43
schestowitzWhat information are they withholding  from us?Apr 02 17:43
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:43
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schestowitz"@schestowitz not bad for text. But there is a valid replacement if you want to others media than text: matrix."Apr 02 17:44
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schestowitz"Apr 02 17:44
schestowitz@schestowitz Recently found out Trinity was out of KDE 3. It seems some people like how KDE 3 was.Apr 02 17:44
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/a8i5fq/does_anyone_actually_use_the_trinity_desktop/Apr 02 17:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:44
schestowitzAnd now they made #Trinity out of KDE 3. I never used v3, but it must be good to make a fork out of it.Apr 02 17:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Does anyone actually use the Trinity desktop environment? : linuxApr 02 17:44
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:44
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tcKe7WYfDWr75mQUaApr 02 17:45
schestowitz"@schestowitz recursive rumination https://psychcentral.com/blog/why-ruminating-is-unhealthy-and-how-to-stop/ stare at the map with their location, thinking, "I am here", mind starts wandering, then to be abruptly yanked back to the location on the map, "I am here...""Apr 02 17:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-psychcentral.com | Why Ruminating is Unhealthy and How to StopApr 02 17:45
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tc9tsLfkrvPBVzyAyApr 02 17:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:46
schestowitz"The most appropriate place for surveillance cameras. "Apr 02 17:46
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tc8OAzqmprZne71AeApr 02 17:46
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:46
schestowitzNYT is pay site. Apr 02 17:46
schestowitzAre you an affiliate with NYT?Apr 02 17:46
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:46
schestowitzyou can see the gist of thingsApr 02 17:47
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tbbSsxlxuSopXmJ04Apr 02 17:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:47
schestowitz"Unsure whether it's false positive…"Apr 02 17:47
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tbXnZUl8sRSiSodg8Apr 02 17:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:47
schestowitz"@schestowitz not exponential anymore though."Apr 02 17:47
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tbXkrHUYe0T0fJffsApr 02 17:47
schestowitz"@schestowitz if this were an add-on for a librem handheld device i would totally add it when i purchase"Apr 02 17:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:47
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tbCJ2bEmh32y3RkA4Apr 02 17:48
schestowitz"@schestowitz  Just as with Care work these jobs are low paid as they are seen as low skilled.,  they are anything but low skilled,  customer service is a real skill,  get it right you get more customers, get it wrong you lose customers now and in the future.    A workforce that is well paid is happy this leads to better productivity and you are better place to face customers better.  If you are fed up having to go to food banks Apr 02 17:48
schestowitzbecause your salary is so low you are forced to, it is probably harder to help customers whos problems seem trivial by comparison."Apr 02 17:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:48
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9taaD87tWigC73TZjcApr 02 17:48
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:48
schestowitz@schestowitz 🔗 https://pleroma.site/objects/a1e9f06d-248d-4a84-a5bb-a89ecfbe7ddaApr 02 17:48
schestowitz-Apr 02 17:48
schestowitz● NEWS ● #techdirt #foia #police #socialcontrol ☞ FOIA'ed DOJ Report Points Out The Downsides Of Relying On 'Predictive Policing' To Fight Crime https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200324/12472544161/foiaed-doj-report-points-out-downsides-relying-predictive-policing-to-fight-crime.shtmlApr 02 17:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:48
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.techdirt.com | FOIA'ed DOJ Report Points Out The Downsides Of Relying On 'Predictive Policing' To Fight Crime | TechdirtApr 02 17:48
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ta9k1Lz1zTRtwWbtQApr 02 17:49
schestowitz"@schestowitz 🤦‍♂️"Apr 02 17:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:49
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tYnRu9afY8oD1izxoApr 02 17:49
schestowitz"@schestowitz"Apr 02 17:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:49
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tYgLA32TcGlnYUux6Apr 02 17:50
schestowitz"@schestowitzI i fear that if the European project fails, and the #covid has highlighted all its limitations, this situation may spread to other European states."Apr 02 17:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:50
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tYZEFPrQ8MEjzvdhIApr 02 17:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/9tYZEFPrQ8MEjzvdhI )Apr 02 17:50
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:50
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schestowitz@schestowitz such a good new,Apr 02 17:50
schestowitzembedded in the #Linux #kernel Apr 02 17:50
schestowitz#IPv6 #P2P #VPN #ALLApr 02 17:50
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:50
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tXvU4zpvrWitKkbEOApr 02 17:50
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:50
schestowitzThat's terrible. Apr 02 17:51
schestowitzQuestion. How many people die of the flu / pneumonia each year?Apr 02 17:51
schestowitzAre flu / pneumonia deaths properly reported each year or are the stats just guesses?Apr 02 17:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:51
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:51
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tXjj99RZFjAfhf7hoApr 02 17:51
schestowitz"@schestowitz WTF? "Open source may not be for everyone". Er, that's precisely who it's made for. Everyone."Apr 02 17:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:51
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tXhTyfg3BJJurNWRUApr 02 17:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/9tXhTyfg3BJJurNWRU )Apr 02 17:51
schestowitz"@schestowitz ... when will they release / #opensource their servers #code as 'promised' ? Umh... 🐭"Apr 02 17:51
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tXKc3RBunXs4NU8G0Apr 02 17:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:52
schestowitz" Also makes the device unusable once the battery can no longer be charged back up,  = more cost, and you can lose data,  investment in e-books / music etc."Apr 02 17:52
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tXEj9RHOupaz7WkOeApr 02 17:52
schestowitz"more like kernel in microsoft times"Apr 02 17:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:53
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tXBu6R0byx4zQvmhUApr 02 17:53
schestowitz"You would think, given the cost of US heathcare they would have everything they needed.  Or is that  just for the corporate people. ?"Apr 02 17:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:53
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tXBiYqR9prDcxJyvgApr 02 17:53
schestowitz""Same for threatening people with eviction,   Changes are hopefully  coming,  given what has been happening."Apr 02 17:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:53
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tX02c6nX83y5kllKaApr 02 17:53
schestowitz"cc @schestowitz"Apr 02 17:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:54
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tWyswSQvCp2LwiI4WApr 02 17:54
schestowitz"@schestowitz this means it's working - islam's ability to sustain itself in a free and open society is under threat."Apr 02 17:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:54
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tWyfmTyhJCleRA0BsApr 02 17:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:54
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:54
schestowitz@schestowitz Apr 02 17:54
schestowitz*  increasingly microsoft controlledApr 02 17:54
schestowitz* with DRM supportApr 02 17:54
schestowitz* with CoC restricting who can contributeApr 02 17:54
schestowitzstill lots of work to do to fix it i guessApr 02 17:55
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:55
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tWtpJHnbXRAE1BjM0Apr 02 17:55
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:55
schestowitzCould Kielsen have learned from Finland where virtually anyone who produces ethanol now uses it to produce hand sanitiser?Apr 02 17:55
schestowitzhttps://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/online_yoga_emergency_sanitiser_finlands_businesses_adjust_to_the_coronavirus/11265421Apr 02 17:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:55
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yle.fi | Online yoga, emergency sanitiser: Finland’s businesses adjust to the coronavirus | Yle Uutiset | yle.fiApr 02 17:55
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tWqhcir9mXiKKUGlEApr 02 17:55
schestowitz"So... Does this mean a cooperative rather than corporate model of management is better?"Apr 02 17:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:55
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tWqP9m82jozKuDDOaApr 02 17:56
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:56
schestowitzThere are two ways I see.Apr 02 17:56
schestowitzSomeone contacts the team of the Internet Archive.Apr 02 17:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:56
schestowitzSomeone uses the time as “online archive at no charge” to mirror it and bundle it as (a) torrent(s).Apr 02 17:56
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:56
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tVxDUMWBGg2EPel96Apr 02 17:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:56
schestowitz"@strypey @ademalsasa @fdroidorg @schestowitz @claudiom @jartigag @alcinnz @mmu_man @redstarfish @freedcreative It claims compatibility with 4.1+, but I have not yet tried it."Apr 02 17:56
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tVx18SjmGVYpsfuUaApr 02 17:56
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:56
schestowitz@ademalsasa wow! #OCR is an incredible thing for a mobile app to be able to do. I hope it's compatible with #Android 4.x so I can try it out.Apr 02 17:56
schestowitz@IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg @schestowitz @claudiom @jartigag @alcinnz @mmu_man @redstarfish @freedcreativeApr 02 17:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:56
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:56
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tVtEETCLzCdPosdDkApr 02 17:56
schestowitz"@schestowitz it's worth mentioning that xrp/ripple labs ripple is not the only ripple system.  https://villages.io, though not a cryptocurrency still lives on from pre-ripple labs days and is still in use as of the past 5 minutes."Apr 02 17:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-villages.io | VILLAGES.IO - Barter Exchange NetworkApr 02 17:56
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tVl6nrQ5ZMLEB9k1YApr 02 17:57
schestowitz"olding at home is not open source though"Apr 02 17:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:57
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tVkcPwaRi3KMd5GVsApr 02 17:57
schestowitz"@schestowitz University of Florida gives open-source design for Pandemic Ventilator using parts available from Home Depot and an Arduino. https://simulation.health.ufl.edu/technology-development/open-source-ventilator-project/"Apr 02 17:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-simulation.health.ufl.edu | Open Source Ventilator Project » The Center for Safety, Simulation and Advanced Learning Technologies » UF Academic Health Center » University of FloridaApr 02 17:57
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tVgfV9J9MZDYlFVdQApr 02 17:58
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:58
schestowitz@schestowitz 🔗 https://pleroma.site/objects/12df1452-fa78-43fa-a06c-1ac6d5507ad6Apr 02 17:58
schestowitz-Apr 02 17:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:58
schestowitz#CURA is the open-source project that reuses containers to house medical unitsApr 02 17:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:58
schestowitzhttps://www.inexhibit.com/marker/cura-an-open-source-design-for-emergency-covid-19-hospitals/Apr 02 17:58
schestowitzhttps://www.domusweb.it/en/news/gallery/2020/03/25/cura-is-the-open-source-project-that-reuses-containers-to-house-medical-units.htmlApr 02 17:58
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.inexhibit.com | CURA: an open-source design for emergency COVID-19 hospitals | InexhibitApr 02 17:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.domusweb.it | CURA is the open-source project that reuses containers to house medical units - DomusApr 02 17:58
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tVgfPdvcbUmTzWsWuApr 02 17:58
schestowitz"Hello, I know you are into free software and I didn't see it mentioned in the article so... there is [jitsi](https://jitsi.org/) libre self hosted software for video conferencing, voip and chat."Apr 02 17:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-jitsi.org | Jitsi.org - develop and deploy full-featured video conferencingApr 02 17:59
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tVeqW3PvSbfdxcOPoApr 02 17:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 17:59
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:59
schestowitzin one of the comments was posted this :Apr 02 17:59
schestowitzhttps://www.troopmessenger.com/blogs/top-self-hosted-chat-softwareApr 02 17:59
schestowitz"Apr 02 17:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.troopmessenger.com | Top 10 Self Hosted/On Premise Slack Alternative for Team ChatApr 02 17:59
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tVOyOvchjKKari7lIApr 02 18:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 18:00
schestowitz"@schestowitz what's *really* needed though is a [build system doesn't depend on github in any way] certification of some sort"Apr 02 18:00
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tVOvVp2cIhf6cFq9QApr 02 18:00
schestowitz"@schestowitz IM: ricochet / cwtch  https://git.openprivacy.ca/cwtch.im/cwtch"Apr 02 18:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 18:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-git.openprivacy.ca | cwtch.im/cwtch: Official cwtch.im peer and server implementations. - cwtch - GiteaApr 02 18:00
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tV4fOyAKUfA8SYxYeApr 02 18:00
schestowitz@ademalsasa @fdroidorg @schestowitz @claudiom @jartigag @alcinnz @mmu_man @redstarfish @strypey @freedcreative I did already my #callingOut for it, thanks! But while on it: It could also use a featureGraphic 😉""Apr 02 18:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 18:00
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tV3U77cFKFzdu2LQGApr 02 18:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 18:01
schestowitz"Apr 02 18:01
schestowitz@IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg hello #Fediverse, what do you think about this? This free software (Apache License) is based on Tesseract 4 optical character recognition. It needs icon designer right now. Apr 02 18:01
schestowitz#freesw #helpwanted #foss #ocr #graphicdesign Apr 02 18:01
schestowitz@schestowitz @claudiom @jartigag @alcinnz @mmu_man @redstarfish @strypey @freedcreativeApr 02 18:01
schestowitz"Apr 02 18:01
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tV3Ql9tRsUMejVE5wApr 02 18:01
schestowitz"Apr 02 18:01
schestowitzYou're just referencing a hashtag.Apr 02 18:01
schestowitzAnd as I mentioned, there is no real "overpopulation" in rich nations, because they are all in population decline.Apr 02 18:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 18:01
schestowitzIt's not the number, it's their habits, and the habits are called capitalist colonialism.Apr 02 18:01
schestowitzSo, no, your defense is worthless.Apr 02 18:01
schestowitzIt is a common ecofascist projection, to make the number of largely non-white people into "the real problem" in order to hide the consumerism that is the root problem.Apr 02 18:01
schestowitz"Apr 02 18:02
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tV2VpNf4w2PFCnNT6Apr 02 18:02
schestowitz"Apr 02 18:02
schestowitzGuess who's more money for lawyers: Apr 02 18:02
schestowitzMeatCanyon or Warner Bros.?Apr 02 18:02
schestowitz"Apr 02 18:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 18:02
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tUwrmtqNrEoCBw800Apr 02 18:02
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schestowitz"This was on twitter "The U.S. has surpassed China in the number of confirmed coronavirus cases. And that's *without* wide spread testing. We are so screwed right now.""Apr 02 18:02
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tUwbso4ecl5sleb7AApr 02 18:03
schestowitz"  er but NYC has a huge number of people infected,  I know there is optimism,  but this is a little too optimistic."Apr 02 18:03
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tUwbBgoxiPI9ovhL6Apr 02 18:03
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schestowitz"Under the circumstances, I agree."Apr 02 18:03
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tUeUPyHfO8xFVihzUApr 02 18:04
schestowitz"Beginners Guide To Linux: First, pick a flavor. Second, install the bastard."Apr 02 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaApr 02 18:04
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9tUbSunhlzJGQIMc2yApr 02 18:04
schestowitz" Maybe we need to reassess everything but WHO seem to be doing something,"Apr 02 18:04
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