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TechrightssecTheir decision to fold was made a few years ago around the time of the m$ NDA.  Dec 03 10:22
TechrightssecThe bringing in of malicious + incompetent managers was a second, severe blow.Dec 03 10:22
TechrightssecHowever, the final blow was the outsourcing: without reasons for competentDec 03 10:22
Techrightssecpeople to stick around, they leave.  When they leave, the remaining compententDec 03 10:22
Techrightssecpeople have an insufficiently large pool of peers with which to work withDec 03 10:22
Techrightssecand at that point start looking for better work.Dec 03 10:22
schestowitz-TRyes, one key colleague was very unhappy about the outsourcing and later leftDec 03 10:22
schestowitz-TRthey ripped apart internal infraDec 03 10:22
TechrightssecOutsourcing, especially of core activities, leads quickly to a death spiral. Dec 03 10:23
TechrightssecOr so it has looked in all the cases which have been published which I have Dec 03 10:23
Techrightssecread so far.  I'd go as far as to say that even peripheral activities mightDec 03 10:23
Techrightssecbe safer handled in house as far as the question of staffing goes.  The Dec 03 10:23
Techrightssecproblem there is that it can lead to too high a head count.  That can be a realDec 03 10:23
Techrightssecthing not just the fake problem that MBAs have when there remain any on the  Dec 03 10:23
Techrightssecpayroll at all.Dec 03 10:23
TechrightssecWithout an internal infrastructure, there is no real company any more.  :/Dec 03 10:23
schestowitz-TRcorrect me if I am mistakenlyyDec 03 11:08
schestowitz-TRthe qualys report deals with several bugs Dec 03 11:08
schestowitz-TR3 IIRC?Dec 03 11:08
schestowitz-TRI noticed they mention "included by default in Ubuntu"Dec 03 11:08
schestowitz-TRand noted that in Daily LinksDec 03 11:08
schestowitz-TRbut are all flaws connected to Ubuntu/Snap?Dec 03 11:08
schestowitz-TRIs Debian affected by any of them?Dec 03 11:08
schestowitz-TRfirst they called GNU "Linux"Dec 03 11:08
schestowitz-TRthen same for systemd (when it suited the FUD)Dec 03 11:08
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TechrightsseccheckingDec 03 12:02
TechrightssecDebian does not use snapDec 03 12:02
Techrightssecmultipathd is outside of my experienceDec 03 12:02
Techrightssecbut snapd is not used in Debian by defaultDec 03 12:02
TechrightssecIt might be available for installation though Dec 03 12:02
schestowitz-TRtruthout has begun showing wrong titles againDec 03 12:07
schestowitz-TRmaybe they altered things againDec 03 12:07
schestowitz-TRfor 2 days in a row nowDec 03 12:07
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Techrightssecchecking Dec 03 12:18
TechrightssecI can't see anything off with a spot check.  Can you show the URL for Dec 03 12:18
Techrightsseca broken page?Dec 03 12:18
schestowitz-TR➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Leaving Canonical, again ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/03/Leaving_Canonical_again.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/03/Leaving_Canonical_again.gmi ∎Dec 03 12:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines β€” Leaving Canonical, againDec 03 12:23
schestowitz-TRaccuses management of being liarsDec 03 12:24
schestowitz-TRsee "merged" under truthoutDec 03 12:24
schestowitz-TRsame today and yesterdayDec 03 12:24
schestowitz-TRtruthout seems to have shuffled around the title element, so the program takes the wrong page elementDec 03 12:25
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