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| schestowitz-TR | Efficacy Declining Due to Bad COVID-19 Policy (a Do-Nothing Attitude) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/04/covid-19-variant-efficacy/ | Oct 04 03:09 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Efficacy Declining Due to Bad COVID-19 Policy (a Do-Nothing Attitude) | Oct 04 03:10 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> 10% more than the usual deaths this past month https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending16september2022 | Oct 04 03:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ons.gov.uk | Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics | Oct 04 03:12 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending16september2022 | Oct 04 03:12 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.salon.com/2022/10/03/is-19-hurting-our-hearts-a-new-study-finds-cardiac-muscle-damage-in-patients/ | Oct 04 03:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Is COVID-19 hurting your heart? A new study finds cardiac muscle damage in COVID patients | Salon.com | Oct 04 03:12 | |
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| Techrights-sec | "Last weeks public appearance by Torvalds seemed ...", | Oct 04 03:26 |
| Techrights-sec | which public appearance? | Oct 04 03:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is a URL further down | Oct 04 03:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | also in gemini | Oct 04 03:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | \ | Oct 04 03:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> ONS Data: In May (Latest Data Available) COVID-19 Killed 149 Brits Who Turned Down COVID-19 Vaccines, 1,439 Who Received Such Vaccines https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/04/ons-vaccine-data/ | Oct 04 03:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » ONS Data: In May (Latest Data Available) COVID-19 Killed 149 Brits Who Turned Down COVID-19 Vaccines, 1,439 Who Received Such Vaccines | Oct 04 03:34 | |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Oct 04 03:34 |
| Techrights-sec | The text is not understandable and is is not clear which link would clear that | Oct 04 03:34 |
| Techrights-sec | up. :/ | Oct 04 03:34 |
| Techrights-sec | gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/bought-by-wintel/ | Oct 04 03:34 |
| Techrights-sec | Enough context is missing that the whole post is confusing, at least to me. | Oct 04 03:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the post was meant partly as a joke and partly as an effort to get people to watch LP trolling Torvalds | Oct 04 03:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | with the images visible the satirical aspect is clearer | Oct 04 03:35 |
| Techrights-sec | RIght but enough context is missing that it is only confusing. | Oct 04 03:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry about that, unintended | Oct 04 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | as a side note: | Oct 04 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "let's open up, it'll save the economy" [economy collapses] | Oct 04 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "let's leave the UK, we can do better on our own" [3 MPs step down in ~6 years] | Oct 04 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | PMs rather | Oct 04 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | the decisions here are made by corporate tools | Oct 04 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne's lawyers all wore masks all the time | Oct 04 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | then again, HK heritage | Oct 04 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they take health precautions more seriously | Oct 04 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | *leave the UK -> i meant EU | Oct 04 03:39 |
| Techrights-sec | I think it's mostly a side-effect of you being very familiar with things | Oct 04 03:40 |
| Techrights-sec | and I am considering the more casual visitor. | Oct 04 03:40 |
| Techrights-sec | The UK politics are driven, like the politics in many countries, by easily | Oct 04 03:40 |
| Techrights-sec | debunkable lies. However, too few politicians gain from working in a fact | Oct 04 03:40 |
| Techrights-sec | based environment and just decide to LARP like the business community is doing. | Oct 04 03:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, in our own home we make out own policies and ecisions | Oct 04 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on verifiable data | Oct 04 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | chomsky used to say something along the lines of, | Oct 04 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | it takes people doing lots of effrot to realsie what's really going on | Oct 04 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and most just toil away at work | Oct 04 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and when they get back home sit on the TV sofa or attend kids | Oct 04 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | so no time to study, just absorb | Oct 04 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | this means them very easy to manipulate/deceive | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least the vast majority of the "herd" | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | the covid-19 posts are merely a residue of me tryingt o figure out the current situatn | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then I send rianen "reports" on current threat level | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, based on how many are estimate to be infected at present | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and how transmittable that is | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | it seems to be like we have half-baked 'solutions' | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the regime won't acknowledge that\ | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | the lobbyists want business-as-usual status | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if we are not ready for it | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | precarious capitalism where wone wuhan virus leads to systemic collapse in under 3 years | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now we have protests in the streets -- unthinkable back in 2019 | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and nhs staff resigning in droves | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | inflation won't keep them at work | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | because their salaries are in effect only decreased | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they want to protest what they see at work and the Tories' policies | Oct 04 03:45 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 04 03:48 |
| Techrights-sec | Some of the parties have been deliberately undermining the NHS and the staff | Oct 04 03:48 |
| Techrights-sec | have been a particular target of theirs. Remember how well the NHS was | Oct 04 03:48 |
| Techrights-sec | even back a decade ago? Tricks like defunding, destaffing, and selling off | Oct 04 03:49 |
| Techrights-sec | properties have made it impossibile for the NHS to operate smoothly, then | Oct 04 03:49 |
| Techrights-sec | that is combined with an incessant drumbeat in the corportate press about | Oct 04 03:49 |
| Techrights-sec | privatization as a response to the "failure" rather than addressing the | Oct 04 03:49 |
| Techrights-sec | real cause of the failure, which is the aforementioned defunding, destaffing, and selling off of properties. | Oct 04 03:49 |
| Techrights-sec | Then you have propaganda campaigns where finding a work-life balance and | Oct 04 03:49 |
| Techrights-sec | working the agreed upon contractual terms is considered a form of "quitting" | Oct 04 03:49 |
| Techrights-sec | Again, those too are pushed by the corporate press, not that there is any | Oct 04 03:49 |
| Techrights-sec | other kind left these days, not even NPR or PBS at least in the US | Oct 04 03:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | I guess I am fortunate to work from home 100% of the time and also never have to work outside hours | Oct 04 03:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | then again, there are other issues | Oct 04 03:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | from what I'm told by a friend who lives her (director), I'm not entitled to as much money if I leave (as I thought before) | Oct 04 03:50 |
| Techrights-sec | https://99designs.com/blog/tips/the-7-step-guide-to-understanding-color-theory/ | Oct 04 03:51 |
| Techrights-sec | https://designwebkit.com/web-and-trends/color-combinations-hell-death-sentence-designs/ | Oct 04 03:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-99designs.com | Color Theory - Understanding the 7 fundamentals of color | Oct 04 03:51 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-designwebkit.com | Color Combinations from Hell – Death Sentence for Your Designs | Oct 04 03:51 | |
| schestowitz-TR | are these colour pallette commentaries concerning the CMS? | Oct 04 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | in gemini, you choose you OWN theme | Oct 04 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it stays consistent | Oct 04 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I suppose makes perfect sense | Oct 04 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't care for sites' "branding" | Oct 04 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I care for my eyes, screen/medium etc. | Oct 04 03:52 |
| Techrights-sec | Right, leaving on your own usually means a big disadvantage. There may be | Oct 04 03:54 |
| Techrights-sec | many other disadvantages to that as well. If you make it look involuntary | Oct 04 03:54 |
| Techrights-sec | then there are usually a lot of legal compensations which they must provide. | Oct 04 03:54 |
| Techrights-sec | Not directly, instead concerning the Windows in Africa chart specifically. | Oct 04 03:54 |
| Techrights-sec | The label at least with this screen and this lighting is hardly readable. | Oct 04 03:54 |
| Techrights-sec | A better color choice would make the point come across better because | Oct 04 03:54 |
| Techrights-sec | it would be less strain to read. It's a form of usability bordering on | Oct 04 03:54 |
| Techrights-sec | accessibility. | Oct 04 03:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | of note: i don't know what formula the patent cartel uses to caalculate efficacy | Oct 04 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and what data gets used, therein lies the BS | Oct 04 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe somethign to look into another day | Oct 04 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | john campbell and I both came to the conclusion (separately) that excess deaths foruma is BS | Oct 04 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it factors in prior years of pandemic, a 20-year median would be a lot better | Oct 04 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you end up having to study the absolute numbers/totals | Oct 04 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | campbell has a boss called Alphabet Gulag | Oct 04 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's based in another continent | Oct 04 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he spends like 50% of his videos having to apologise | Oct 04 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and recite guidelines | Oct 04 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and compliment the boss | Oct 04 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | just to avert more censorship than being delisted from the "recommendation engine" and other "engagement" levers | Oct 04 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's ridiculous!! | Oct 04 03:59 |
| Techrights-sec | http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/microsoft-windows-african-market/ | Oct 04 04:04 |
| Techrights-sec | Note the text box/arrow's colors. It'd be easy enough to find | Oct 04 04:04 |
| Techrights-sec | two colors and then keep the hex codes on file for reuse. | Oct 04 04:04 |
| Techrights-sec | The hearsay is that the vaccines reduce the need for hospitalization. | Oct 04 04:04 |
| Techrights-sec | However, if that is not true, they are certainly not going to allow social | Oct 04 04:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Windows Sinks to Just 16% of the African Market | Techrights | Oct 04 04:04 | |
| Techrights-sec | control media to cite any articles, studies, or data to the contrary. | Oct 04 04:04 |
| Techrights-sec | There have been a lot of accounts wiped out recently. They are gone without | Oct 04 04:04 |
| Techrights-sec | a trace most of the time and only occasionally do any other vloggers | Oct 04 04:04 |
| Techrights-sec | comment on the disappearance and the reasons for it. Then, that too, is lost | Oct 04 04:04 |
| Techrights-sec | in the noise and effectively gone forever. | Oct 04 04:04 |
| Techrights-sec | Apologies for wikipedia link: | Oct 04 04:04 |
| Techrights-sec | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning_chamber | Oct 04 04:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Operant conditioning chamber - Wikipedia | Oct 04 04:04 | |
| Techrights-sec | old: | Oct 04 04:04 |
| Techrights-sec | https://behavioralscientist.org/21st-century-skinner-box/ | Oct 04 04:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-behavioralscientist.org | The 21st Century Skinner Box - Behavioral Scientist | Oct 04 04:04 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | The data I've studied does show a decrease in chance of escalation | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the question is, by how much? | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | Another question is, | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | what is the effect of the jabs themselves | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | all jabs, even good ones, will have SOME side effects | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is common knowledge, not crackpot stuff | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and also, what are the effects of complacency, i.e. letting it spread freely | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on false assumptinons of over-states/exeggerated (aofrementioned) "success" | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | if the change of hospitalisation is reduced by 70%, is that enbough to fill up | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | football stadiums? How about 99%? Huge difference. | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | the problem is, there is not much research | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that which exists can be biased or suppressed | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I just want to know what's going on | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and, for now, "I see dead people" | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | more than 2021 and 2020 | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2020 we went back to the gym and all | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | as the virus was mostly contained around summertimee | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | even in September | Oct 04 04:08 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes | Oct 04 04:08 |
| Techrights-sec | There are few articles which are uncontroversial or unprofitable enough to | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | be neutral. The rest are camped on by corporate marketeers or political | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | lobbyists or both. Any incursion on those squatted pages ends up, at best, | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | as an edit war which due to the malice/laziness of the moderators is handed | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | to those with the most resources to bulk edit and or endure over time. | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | A timlely example is the banksters who ratchet forward each year towards | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | making their pretend award for "Economics" appear legitimate. | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | "puleez" | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | Economics exists to make astrology look legit. | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | It has nothing to do with science or scientific method, nor much to do with | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | actual facts and observable conditions. | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | It's phrenology for numbers. | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | Anyway, in regards to Wikipedia, it is very hard to find any page at all which | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | is not squatted on by a corporation or two, especially anything related | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | to computing, since it has become such a high-stakes fight over control of | Oct 04 04:19 |
| Techrights-sec | information/disinformation/propaganda and mind share. | Oct 04 04:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | you brought up wikipedia | Oct 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | wikipedia does resist interference by states | Oct 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | except certain states | Oct 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | those aare AlwaysRight(R) | Oct 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | That's aside from well-connected corporations doing whatever they want to articles which mention them | Oct 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "perception management" as a "service" | Oct 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | a shadow industry built around wikipedia | Oct 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and reputation laundering | Oct 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | or rather, censorship | Oct 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Critical thinking is the most powerful weapon in the arsenal of humankind. It is like a sharp sword that cuts through the follies of society, leaving nothing undefiled in its wake. Yet, when deployed improperly, it can also injure the thinker, bring ruin to his or her life, and ultimately accomplish nothing productive." gemini://jhpotter.srht.site/gemlog/chestertons-fence.gmi | Oct 04 04:27 |
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| schestowitz-TR | no irc post yet today? | Oct 04 09:37 |
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| schestowitz-TR | wow, I was just using google search for something linux-related | Oct 04 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | tuxmachinea and TR are very prominent in results | Oct 04 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | that helps explain some things | Oct 04 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember old TM still gets a lot more traffic than new TM, which I guess makes sense given the size differences | Oct 04 10:38 |
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| Techrights-sec | Yes, TM and, depending on the topic, TR show up high in many searches. | Oct 04 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Jim Zemlin keeps saying "intellectual property" | Oct 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | Linux Foundation's LFX seems to be proprietary software. Needs to be verified though. | Oct 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | Recently, Jim Zemlin did not even give talks. His keynotes were just him reading a script. Ridiculous. | Oct 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | Zemlin now spread the "supply chain" FUD of Microsoft proxies. To make "Open Source", not NSA and its tentacles (like Microsoft) seem like the real disk, inc. back doors. | Oct 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | Zemlin also bags about Microsoft working with Linux Foundation on "trust" (while Microsoft works for the NSA, a back doors booster) | Oct 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | Zemlin became like a Microsoft salesperson (like his wife, who is technically a fraud). He even uses the same talking points, e.g. "log4j" (even a year after this was patched) | Oct 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | <-- psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell-social | Oct 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Zemlin also perpetuates the lie that in proprietary software there are good security practices but the same is untrue in "Open Source"; he's in effect repeating Microsoft lies | Oct 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure if [topic] | Oct 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | as that would require giving audience to his BS | Oct 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, a week later this video of LF has just 200 views | Oct 04 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | despite claiming to have over 150,000 youtube subscribers | Oct 04 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | probably another bunch of spamnils | Oct 04 11:32 |
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| Techrights-sec | I'm hoping that the popularity with the HTTPS service carries over to Gemini | Oct 04 11:37 |
| Techrights-sec | at least a bit. | Oct 04 11:37 |
| Techrights-sec | Best to ignore spamnil for the most part except to mention how he is being | Oct 04 11:37 |
| Techrights-sec | used to degrade the brand. | Oct 04 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | Zemlin says "Open Source movement", but it's not a movement but a corporate push to attack the movement (Free software) or what he dubs "collective innovation" | Oct 04 11:37 |
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| schestowitz-TR | what the heck is it that makes a channel with 150k+ subscribers barely exceed 300 views in a month? | Oct 04 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | imho, lots of fakes | Oct 04 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | the big rich orgs just buy fakes | Oct 04 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | to "look big" | Oct 04 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like twitter | Oct 04 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol, LF talk uses the term "non-male" | Oct 04 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's like "gentile" | Oct 04 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | they define people as what they're not | Oct 04 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | repeatedly | Oct 04 11:43 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, to a certain extent it started as a corporate end-run around software | Oct 04 11:44 |
| Techrights-sec | freedom. But regardless of how much it was like that or not from the start, | Oct 04 11:44 |
| Techrights-sec | it became that quite quickly. | Oct 04 11:44 |
| Techrights-sec | Misconfigured bots with unused fake accounts> | Oct 04 11:44 |
| Techrights-sec | ? | Oct 04 11:44 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Oct 04 11:44 |
| Techrights-sec | The more they avoid technical aspects, the more harm they succeed in doing | Oct 04 11:44 |
| Techrights-sec | to the kernel. Such is their apparent goal. | Oct 04 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol, if you scroll down a bit you see videos that get same vie count as spamnil | Oct 04 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | one monyh, 37 views | Oct 04 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | over a month, 23 views | Oct 04 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | hardly even worth the efort encoding and uploading | Oct 04 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | hat a lump of fakes | Oct 04 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but there is nothing too insightful I can say about it | Oct 04 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | one aspect of it is, | Oct 04 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulag used to show people channels they subscribed to | Oct 04 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it's like broadcast TV, optimised for "engagement" | Oct 04 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they scre channels with subscribers | Oct 04 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | google is 'managing' what people are watching and when | Oct 04 11:47 |
| Techrights-sec | When Lunduke was on topic, he was really good, but that only happened for | Oct 04 11:47 |
| Techrights-sec | a little while. Now he makes a lot of noise but produces nothing of substance | Oct 04 11:47 |
| Techrights-sec | for the most partt. | Oct 04 11:47 |
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| schestowitz-TR | yes, he blog is mostyly skip, skip, old, nonsense, brag, sales, skip, joke... | Oct 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | his head cannot come up with topics | Oct 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he makes up satire and does "open mic" with no real topic | Oct 04 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | just "ask me antyhing" | Oct 04 11:52 |
| Techrights-sec | A few of the ones he did like four or five years ago were really great. He | Oct 04 11:56 |
| Techrights-sec | was on a roll for a few months, then BAM nothing. | Oct 04 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | important: draft | Oct 04 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | see the one-minute video | Oct 04 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | and barf | Oct 04 12:07 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Oct 04 12:07 |
| Techrights-sec | The worst part is that from a marketing perspective, it is chump change and | Oct 04 12:08 |
| Techrights-sec | not even noticeable money they're selling out for. | Oct 04 12:08 |
| Techrights-sec | m$ very presence violates the CoC :( | Oct 04 12:17 |
| Techrights-sec | JZ engages in a bit of revisionism. FOSS is not becoming a part of industry. | Oct 04 12:17 |
| Techrights-sec | It is what *built* and *runs* the Internet and the WWW. | Oct 04 12:17 |
| Techrights-sec | It's not /becoming/ part of product and service development, it has been | Oct 04 12:17 |
| Techrights-sec | there since day one already. | Oct 04 12:17 |
| Techrights-sec | It has not /become/ the cornerstone, it started out as the cornerstone going | Oct 04 12:17 |
| Techrights-sec | back to the first days of computing in the 1940s and 1950s, though back | Oct 04 12:17 |
| Techrights-sec | then it was referred to merely as "software" since the availability of the | Oct 04 12:17 |
| Techrights-sec | source code went without saying. It was only IBM and M$ in the 1980s | Oct 04 12:17 |
| Techrights-sec | that worked to undermine that, helped along with a lot of revisionism in the last 5 to 10 years by marketeetrs like JZ | Oct 04 12:17 |
| Techrights-sec | JZ's video is long. Yewtewbe seems to have autoplayed it from the short | Oct 04 12:20 |
| Techrights-sec | lead video. | Oct 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just added your response | Oct 04 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | his talks are mostly the same | Oct 04 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | tmpleate | Oct 04 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | so rebutting one rebuts a lot of recent "talks" | Oct 04 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | we'll needf to proofread carefully | Oct 04 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | The headline of the draft probably should not give free advertising to M$ | Oct 04 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | though. | Oct 04 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | we stepped on a land mine | Oct 04 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | i beg to differ: it causes disgust, and rightly so | Oct 04 12:22 |
| Techrights-sec | It can be alluded to without naming explicitly, I think. | Oct 04 12:22 |
| Techrights-sec | FOSS's most hostile enemy as diamond sponsor for LF event. | Oct 04 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have a different target audience in mind | Oct 04 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | we don't need to explain what microsoft means to us | Oct 04 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | in a site like TR | Oct 04 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not IDG | Oct 04 12:24 |
| Techrights-sec | Not so much. The point is that naming the company in that context gives | Oct 04 12:24 |
| Techrights-sec | them free advertising and even more bang for the buck for the pennies they | Oct 04 12:24 |
| Techrights-sec | tossed to LF for that name placement | Oct 04 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, wll rewrite | Oct 04 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | try again now | Oct 04 12:25 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.dpkpr.com/articles/media-training-fundamentals-dont-name-the-competition/ | Oct 04 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.dpkpr.com | Media Training Fundamentals: Don't Name the Competition - 03-31-2016 : Public Relations Management contact: Daniel Keeney in Portland, Oregon | Oct 04 12:25 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.roi-selling.com/blog/talking-about-your-competition | Oct 04 12:28 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Oct 04 12:28 |
| Techrights-sec | thanks! The new title is much more clear! | Oct 04 12:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.roi-selling.com | The Etiquette of Talking about Your Competition | Oct 04 12:28 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | new policy | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | stop tracking the spam-NIL | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've not given up on statcounter though | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think it touches where it hurts | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and fills a gap where media dares not enter | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we need topics | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know... there are coincidences, but... | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes it feels like as soon as I call out zdnet on "Linux" | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | a day later they respond | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it lasts only about a day | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | same happens a lot with epo and LF | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, you bring up a massive scandal | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then they're out in FULL FORCE, never ending PR rushed out | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then silence | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think it's a PR tactic of signal saturation | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | Debian is said to have done the same | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's very hard to prove | Oct 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am organising a list of items that help with brainstorming, original article ideas | Oct 04 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | just going throiugh rss feeds does not always bring up topics | Oct 04 12:51 |
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| Techrights-sec | Probably they are in meetings about it. | Oct 04 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've long had a saying | Oct 04 13:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | what you see in public is just a small portion of the whole | Oct 04 13:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | what people read 'second hand' (through other sites) | Oct 04 13:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | what people say/hear (the water coller) | Oct 04 13:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | *cooler | Oct 04 13:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | boardrooms, walled gardened chats etc. | Oct 04 13:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the impact is always a bit more than it seems | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | with our whistleblowers | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I had to explain to them | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | that the PR tactic is to make them feel powerless | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | having no impact | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and keep secrey all mentions of them | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but like a submarine a lawyer comes your way every now and then | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of the time epo.org 'feels' like it's having tit-for-tat with us | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on the topics they 'cover' | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and esp. the timing | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | because I'm told "almost all" EPO staff reads TR | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | no word from the copyright troll in about a week | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reckon it's barking, but won't ever bite | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | if it tries to bite, the law is on m side, but time-wasting | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | like mmasnick and shiva | Oct 04 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Linux Foundation is trying to change its pitch in response to posts that expose its hypocrisy; for instance, they now openly admit Linux is just a little project in the corner. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation | Oct 04 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights | Oct 04 13:11 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 04 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "Total Coronavirus Cases in New Zealand" in this page shows what happens when you 'open up' BEFORE you even have a potent solution to COVID-19. 3k deaths in a small island. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/ | Oct 04 13:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.worldometers.info | New Zealand COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer | Oct 04 13:13 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> NZ is at 90% COVID-19 vaccine uptake for ages 12+. https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-vaccine-data and when opening up COVID-19 spreads to millions, killing thousands. Hardly an efficacy success story. Try the same with polio. We need more vaccine development (and clinical trials), not more patents and higher prices. | Oct 04 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.health.govt.nz | COVID-19: Vaccine data | Ministry of Health NZ | Oct 04 13:18 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> NZ, once a role model on COVID-19, now has a higher mortality rates overall than another island, Iceland. Those Islands are valuable as reference points to study COVID-19 mitigation approaches in insulation/isolation. | Oct 04 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | And now in NZ they'll have millions with "LONG COVID(-19)" and lifelong conditions associated with infection, based on extensive research published just a month ago. They have a health service, so the high cost will be long-term and collective. | Oct 04 13:23 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 04 13:23 |
| Techrights-sec | I would speculate that the cost for the same scenario but without a national | Oct 04 13:24 |
| Techrights-sec | health service would actually be far higher and longer lasting. | Oct 04 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, the point was not to take shots at nationalisation of well-bring | Oct 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | *being | Oct 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | health population is generally healthy for a nation | Oct 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | crime and all | Oct 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | (albeit welfare of public housing is a bigger factor there) | Oct 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | the 'NZ experiment' is still ongoing | Oct 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | insulate, vaccinate 90% of adolescents up | Oct 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | then test on the "weak" variants | Oct 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now they have remorse as they try to bring cases back down and under control | Oct 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on what I hear from friends, each "case" is not "recovered" or "dead" | Oct 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but "lucky" or "damaged" or "dead" | Oct 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | we don't know the ratios, but some studies provide insights, with breakdown by age groups mostly | Oct 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | gender is not a big factor in the case of this virus, it's the age | Oct 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and to some extent race too | Oct 04 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec | Understood | Oct 04 13:31 |
| Techrights-sec | The current global situation is quite frustating because neither the shortcomings in the current set of vaccines is discussed or allowed ot be discussed, | Oct 04 13:31 |
| Techrights-sec | nor (as part of that) is there any apparent plan to develop functional | Oct 04 13:31 |
| Techrights-sec | vaccines | Oct 04 13:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | wanted to say earlier, | Oct 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | that this will become a bigger issue (than Tories) as winter comes | Oct 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that my initial prediction that "this can take 5 years" was not so insane | Oct 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I did not imagine we'd stay away from the gym after the temporary recovery in summer 2020 | Oct 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | few cases, sometimes 0 deaths per day | Oct 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the economy was not going to recover after brexit and other blunder, inc. wars with the second/third superpower | Oct 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | we've always been at war with eur-asia/russia/eu-russia | Oct 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | brexit, russia, covid | Oct 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | perfect storm | Oct 04 13:34 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | i don't suppose they'll export energy to us this winter, we snubbed them since 2016 | Oct 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | my next (I think very hard, due to lack of transparent) task will be to check what efficacy is advertised | Oct 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then what the methods of measuring that IS | Oct 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is no consistent/uniform method, I suspect | Oct 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | which makes that even more cumbersome | Oct 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | just as they advertise ingredients with % on food products | Oct 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | (I know vaccines do tend to mention ingredients, but little about composition beyond that) | Oct 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think efficacy needs to be advertised honstly, transparently, independentl | Oct 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | in a language that the 'hoi polloi' can grasp | Oct 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | so as to make decisions of select the right "product" | Oct 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | List of capsules (as per Lupa) gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/lupa-capsules.txt | Oct 04 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | you are there now | Oct 04 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> New Zealand and Australia deaths rates for COVID-19 the same almost (less than 5% margin), but NZ had a long head start with vaccination before the spread. Demography similar, so it's not entirely clear if mass vaccination is anywhere near as effective as distance, mask, insulation. We need independent efficacy studies, not marketing junk from salespeople. | Oct 04 13:49 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> In the UK, 90% of those who die of COVID-19 are vaccinated with COVID-19 products, based on the official data. Efficacy can't be THAT good. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/04/ons-vaccine-data/ | Oct 04 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » ONS Data: In May (Latest Data Available) COVID-19 Killed 149 Brits Who Turned Down COVID-19 Vaccines, 1,439 Who Received Such Vaccines | Oct 04 13:53 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> COVID minimisers: people who think it's OK to mingle while COVID-19 is prevalent. Examples: British government. COVIDiots: people who say "the pandemic is over" when in fact it is rebounding if not surging. In the UK, it's worse now than same time 1 year ago and 2 years ago. | Oct 04 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | in irc, this is OK to state such facts. if I still posted this in social control media, I'd risk ALL my account (history) based merely on 'touching' | Oct 04 13:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | the 'wrong' words | Oct 04 13:54 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 04 13:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | bloody hell, it's hard to find the information you'd assume is publicly available | Oct 04 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't use Gulag Search | Oct 04 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | but if I did, it would likely bombard me with "fact checks" in place of actual results | Oct 04 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | not that I tried | Oct 04 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) efficacy calculation method/s 2) advertised rates in 2022 (if that's still advertised at all this year) | Oct 04 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | they "settled" on the provider and product | Oct 04 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | AZ is the "windows" of the UK | Oct 04 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | sinofarm, china, sputnik russia | Oct 04 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | "vaccine natinalism" | Oct 04 13:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 04 13:58 |
| Techrights-sec | yep, it appears to be about the same model | Oct 04 13:58 |
| Techrights-sec | privatized patents built from publicly funded research | Oct 04 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | big farma = farming the market | Oct 04 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | populatinon size x product x # of patents (acquired using publicly-funded R&D) | Oct 04 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can't say this in twitter, then ban you for the words used to express this totally legitimate gripe | Oct 04 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | happened to me twice | Oct 04 14:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was even careful with the wording, it did not help | Oct 04 14:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and added authoritative URLs to the "offending" tweets | Oct 04 14:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe therein lies the whole "value proposition" of such sites | Oct 04 14:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least in 2020 onwards | Oct 04 14:00 |
| Techrights-sec | and then if they acquiesce at all they blame what they've done on "AI" | Oct 04 14:00 |
| Techrights-sec | There are no longer such things as authoritative sources :( | Oct 04 14:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | about 5 years ago when wikileaks was still alive I kept pointing out that "algorithm" (before the AI hype) | Oct 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | would be blamed for arbitrary and improper censorship | Oct 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | later wikileaks and even high-profile pro-Wikileaks accounts would be suspended, hidden, locked.. | Oct 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes based on "algorithm" | Oct 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "suspicious activity" | Oct 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | "bad" content" | Oct 04 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like a CoC | Oct 04 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | but another context | Oct 04 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | trump had to wage a war on the country before twitter took action | Oct 04 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and mostly to suck up to the upcoming (elected) senile | Oct 04 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | The OtherSenile(TM) | Oct 04 14:03 |
| Techrights-sec | Yep, similar model | Oct 04 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | kids take two decadesx to 'raise' | Oct 04 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and even that alone is no guarantee of them becoming independent and leaving the 'nest' | Oct 04 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | even pseudoscience like "economics" cannot see 20 years ahead | Oct 04 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if it's greenspan in a suit and tie during the clinton era | Oct 04 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | with a constume and media support to seem like "doctor prosperity" | Oct 04 14:06 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 04 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | the solutions they offer, like bush 2nd did after 9/11, is "go shop more" | Oct 04 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | i.e. max up some more debt cards | Oct 04 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | to sustain a system where the currency became deficits based upon false assumption about a future gainful employment | Oct 04 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | my friend lost EVERYTHING! job, money, partner, health. all in one year. | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | he would not talk to friends. went into hiding and therapy. | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | he now panders against to sino 'farm' [sic] for a second chance | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | after they already burned him badly | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | along with some saudi and italian charlatans whom I warned him about all along | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | posers and pretenders | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | some of whom I met in person | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | same thing happened to my dad, went broke, I even sent him money for a while (from my salary) | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | people who worked decades and approach pension age, only to have neither money nor assets | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | while those at the top moan that their wealth is not growing fast enough to keep up with inflation | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | which they themselves created | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | by taking all the capital out of the market, impeding ability to make any further "lucrative" purchases | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | by the way, daemonfc has a child | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | her name is buick | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | she cost him like $5000 or more only on the first year | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | birth price was just north of that | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he complained in irc last night | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | after I had warned him atxis would be vastly cheaper | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | *taxis | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I also reckon dishonest garage 'grease monkeys' would become more dishonest | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and even sabotage things | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | because they could really use more money | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and their work ethics are not exactly renowned | Oct 04 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | having a buick is a sign on your back that says "happy to waste money to keep up status/sppearance" | Oct 04 14:12 |
| Techrights-sec | :/ | Oct 04 14:14 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 04 14:14 |
| Techrights-sec | The independent garages are often fairly honest, especially if you are | Oct 04 14:14 |
| Techrights-sec | a regular. It is the dealerships where one has to be especially alert. | Oct 04 14:14 |
| Techrights-sec | However, the independent repair shops are being squeezed out through various | Oct 04 14:14 |
| Techrights-sec | means hinging on closed source, closed protocols, and closed APIs among others. | Oct 04 14:14 |
| Techrights-sec | If I understand the dealerships are selling a kind of maintenance subscription | Oct 04 14:14 |
| Techrights-sec | to futher lock buyers into the dealer's services and to keep any money at all | Oct 04 14:14 |
| Techrights-sec | from going to the independent repair shops. | Oct 04 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I was a kid you have one spare tire at the back | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | a kit | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some oil, water, maybe a set of tools | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of stuff was mechanical and could be repaired on the go | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | without having to get another vehicle to drag you to a shop | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | just roadside work | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | might take several hours | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you could get by | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | sort of like bicycle | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | we've not needed to take them to the shop in a decade | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can fix things on my own | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and improve at it over time | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | the wheels are easily detachable | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the flat tyre was a case of taking it at hand for new inner tube | Oct 04 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I never changed inner tube on my own | Oct 04 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the cost of them doing it for you when you purchase the replacement is only a few pounds | Oct 04 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | with their tools, they do it really fast | Oct 04 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we have a shop near to us | Oct 04 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I dread the idea of some SBC with critical info now functioning properly in a car | Oct 04 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | you cannot get int here to replace it | Oct 04 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if you somehow got the spare module | Oct 04 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | a garage would tell you fairy tales about having to "order it from x" | Oct 04 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and how it takes like a week to get it installed | Oct 04 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | computer repair shops are the same | Oct 04 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | they ask you to leave it over for the perception of complexity | Oct 04 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | even for a job they can do on the spot while you go to the loo | Oct 04 14:19 |
| Techrights-sec | No spare tires any more, that too is a subscription service. | Oct 04 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait till smart wheels | Oct 04 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | with "LIGHTS ON THEM" | Oct 04 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and cameras and stuff | Oct 04 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and microphone | Oct 04 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and....... | Oct 04 14:20 |
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| Techrights-sec | not just one microphone, many | Oct 04 14:28 |
| Techrights-sec | not just one camera, dozens both inside and outside | Oct 04 14:28 |
| Techrights-sec | https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/2019/04/23/cameras-inside-outside-new-cars/3506205002/ | Oct 04 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.usatoday.com | Car cameras are no longer just on dashboards or outside your vehicle | Oct 04 14:28 | |
| schestowitz-TR | at what cost? | Oct 04 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | what for? | Oct 04 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | trying to recall an example from the other day... | Oct 04 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | some gadget that has ... ah, smoker detector | Oct 04 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they have connectioon | Oct 04 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | FUCKING SMOKE DETECTORS! | Oct 04 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | what for????? | Oct 04 14:30 |
| Techrights-sec | To sell to the insurance companies, police, and any other group with the right | Oct 04 14:30 |
| Techrights-sec | contacts and a bit of money. | Oct 04 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | the 'roy law': the more "smart" things become, the more expensive they will become (purchase, maintenance, human rights) | Oct 04 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's far too banal to be a "law" | Oct 04 14:30 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, and it adds to the mark up. | Oct 04 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | last night I jokes with dfc, | Oct 04 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | that horses are quickly becoming more appealing as means of transport | Oct 04 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | compared to "smart" cars, "modern" cars, EVs, and "self-driving" with lidar or whatever | Oct 04 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | horses also have dual purpose | Oct 04 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | "hybrids" | Oct 04 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can ride them | Oct 04 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | or attach them to a wagon for more passengers | Oct 04 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | never mind traffic, companion | Oct 04 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | repair means veta | Oct 04 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they lost over a decade is "maintained" properly | Oct 04 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and make a good pet, too | Oct 04 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | /is/if/ | Oct 04 14:34 |
| Techrights-sec | Oct 04 14:35 | |
| Techrights-sec | Horses are not practical for similar reasons as bicycles are not practical, | Oct 04 14:35 |
| Techrights-sec | at least in the US and countries following a similar (lack of) urban planning. | Oct 04 14:35 |
| Techrights-sec | The towns and cities have been intentionally laid out to prevent foot traffic | Oct 04 14:35 |
| Techrights-sec | and short-distance travel. | Oct 04 14:35 |
| Techrights-sec | Horses are great. As long as you can stay in the saddle it'll find its own | Oct 04 14:35 |
| Techrights-sec | way home from the pub with you on its back. :P | Oct 04 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | two horses walk into a pub | Oct 04 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | get inebriated | Oct 04 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | run off a cliff | Oct 04 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the replace-machanics-with animal rhetoric is meant as a joke | Oct 04 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | to make a point | Oct 04 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | the same is sometimes true for quad-core "phones" replaced with a node pad (pen, paper) | Oct 04 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | because you never need to charge the latter | Oct 04 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | we use paper as backup when travelling, still | Oct 04 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ev/smart/moderm/autonomous bs makes the costs very high | Oct 04 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the point where even a slow horse might be worth the tradeoff | Oct 04 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you nleave near land with flora or hay | Oct 04 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | #AmishWasRight ;-) | Oct 04 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | EVs would become less sustainables as the energy gets tapped by more and more onboard computers | Oct 04 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and energy prices go up to the point where some states BAN rechanging the car | Oct 04 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | with petrol you can stockpile a bit (no, not plastic bags! don't try this at home!) | Oct 04 14:46 |
| Techrights-sec | Electric vehicles have a problem with the componentns not being sustainable, | Oct 04 14:46 |
| Techrights-sec | especially the batteries. Some of the is slowly chaning but in the near | Oct 04 14:46 |
| Techrights-sec | and medium term the larger threat is from the software payloads the cars | Oct 04 14:46 |
| Techrights-sec | carry into peoples' lives. | Oct 04 14:46 |
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| schestowitz-TR | of corse the FSF writes about this all the timne :s | Oct 04 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | or not even once | Oct 04 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, it never wrote to caution about nasty tech introduced under the auspices of COVID-19 | Oct 04 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | because... "antivaxxer" | Oct 04 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they say "emacs virgins" if sexist and pro-abortion if "ableist" | Oct 04 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | then anything vaccine related is "conspiracy crank" | Oct 04 14:48 |
| Techrights-sec | FSF / EFF | Oct 04 14:50 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, *anything* that is written is silenced regardless of the position or | Oct 04 14:50 |
| Techrights-sec | backing literature. | Oct 04 14:50 |
| Techrights-sec | FSF / EFF | Oct 04 14:50 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, *anything* that is written is silenced regardless of the position or | Oct 04 14:50 |
| Techrights-sec | backing literature. | Oct 04 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | the same people working from the inside to undermine EFF are sometimes the same people -- or connected to people -- who did this in FSF | Oct 04 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | while calling gillmore and moglen names | Oct 04 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | with neither proof nor context | Oct 04 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | TR is not a big team | Oct 04 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we are not invaded | Oct 04 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | nor do we need to suck up to cocs and corporations | Oct 04 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it stands.. | Oct 04 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | rms has not given talks in a while | Oct 04 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | when it does they barely advertise it | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | i thinkf for fear of online protests to cancel these talks | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | (it happened before) | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | or to condemn him for canceling a talk | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | (also happened before) | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think the term "cancel culture" is connected to that specifically | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the defamation brigades | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | but rather, groups online organising to cancel talks | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | or deplatform people physically, rather than from some "platform" | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/07/06/honeytraps/ | Oct 04 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Honeytraps | Techrights | Oct 04 14:56 | |
| schestowitz-TR | [14:56] <DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR], Now I have another fume leak somewhere it seems. | Oct 04 14:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | [14:56] <DaemonFC> More smoke tests if the code comes back. | Oct 04 14:57 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 04 15:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, shoehorning entryism is done outside net/tech | Oct 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am told that some group whose name I cannot recall atrget institutions | Oct 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. academic | Oct 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | they find one member of staff that make anti-trans joke some time in the past | Oct 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then threatsn the employer with a smear campaign | Oct 04 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless it complies with a list od demands and buys some eductional material | Oct 04 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | to "correct" the problem | Oct 04 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | this, in turn, is enough to put off some people | Oct 04 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the strategy seems similar | Oct 04 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | in our case, dfc is the one for whom the irc channels have topics altered | Oct 04 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | to trigger a response | Oct 04 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we try to keep the channel on topic | Oct 04 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the extent feassible | Oct 04 15:33 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 04 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is a VERY annoying new family of popups | Oct 04 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | that I think take JS to remove | Oct 04 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | when entering a whole lot of site since weeks ago | Oct 04 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. howtoforce | Oct 04 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | but many a dozen sites | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | youi must have noticed some in quiterss | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't know how to bypass them | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | as soon as you oopen the page, overlay with useless dialogue | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | pretending to care about consent | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | the www is becoming a lot less accessible very rapidly | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | the sites that have this all outsourced to the same malware | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that malware become more malicious weeks ago | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the point where you cannot even get to the text | Oct 04 15:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 04 16:21 |
| Techrights-sec | WWW has quickly turned into an unauthenticated malware delivery mechanism | Oct 04 16:21 |
| Techrights-sec | and the browsers have turned into the world's crappiest VMs. | Oct 04 16:21 |
| Techrights-sec | By the way, the FOIA request on the Franklin surveillance resulted in a partial | Oct 04 16:21 |
| Techrights-sec | release of documents. It'll be interesting to see what was released even it | Oct 04 16:21 |
| Techrights-sec | s/it$/if/ | Oct 04 16:21 |
| Techrights-sec | it is not a large amount and partially redacted at that. | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I was surprised they targeted her too | Oct 04 16:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | al gore's favourite singer, he claimed | Oct 04 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | if she passes muster for "extra treatment", the barrier was already very low decades ago | Oct 04 16:23 |
| Techrights-sec | I figure, at least back then when they were musicians and not 'entertainers' | Oct 04 16:24 |
| Techrights-sec | and certainly not under corporate control, they watched as many as they | Oct 04 16:24 |
| Techrights-sec | had resources to watch. Now most that are allowed access to distribution | Oct 04 16:24 |
| Techrights-sec | channels are under full corporate control and fully congnizant of their | Oct 04 16:24 |
| Techrights-sec | tenuous status and disposability. | Oct 04 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | they call it the "zemlin syndrome " ;-) | Oct 04 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | it takes a lot of effort to "fully" cancel LT and RMS | Oct 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | they had a first (test?) run in 2015 | Oct 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | they just need "attackl fodder" | Oct 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | to reduce the "blowback" | Oct 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | one fodder is known as MJG | Oct 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some loon who is not the sharpest tool in the box | Oct 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they take the heat | Oct 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead of Intel, Red Hat, Microsoft, Gulag | Oct 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then people fight one another along social aspectas | Oct 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | not corporarte aspects | Oct 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | community vs corporate power | Oct 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | extra point: usuaulyl it's not even legit social aspects or lines | Oct 04 16:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | as people of the same class can see eye to eye | Oct 04 16:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it needs to be some trollish bullish bullshit | Oct 04 16:32 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | one good feature of mjg (to them) is that he too is highly disposable (by them) | Oct 04 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | for all sorts of reasons we find over time | Oct 04 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | he stalks our channels becase we've canceled him | Oct 04 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | in some circles he's not welcome | Oct 04 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | because they see the track record and smell trouble | Oct 04 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | by the way, did you see what tor project posted yesterday? | Oct 04 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm not sure what to make of it | Oct 04 16:53 |
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| Techrights-sec | checking | Oct 04 16:58 |
| Techrights-sec | About the conflicts of interests? | Oct 04 16:58 |
| Techrights-sec | I haven't seen the Vice (Motherboard) article it refers to. | Oct 04 16:58 |
| Techrights-sec | It looks like they have a representative from "Team Cymru" and whether he himself is ok is overshadows by "Team Cymru" having services which run counter | Oct 04 16:58 |
| Techrights-sec | to the Tor Project's goals, thus making him an inappropriate choice for board. | Oct 04 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | my remark in irc was, what about the bribes tor took from microsoft (DDG) to help promote the NSA/MS spying? | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | Tor is a farce to me at this point | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | like newEFF | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | also shilling Microsoft and DDG | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe the objective is to discredit both | Oct 04 17:00 |
| Techrights-sec | That could always be either a side objective or a main objective. | Oct 04 17:06 |
| Techrights-sec | If people lose enough confidence in the tool, then they will not use it and | Oct 04 17:06 |
| Techrights-sec | might even avoid it. | Oct 04 17:06 |
| Techrights-sec | However, rummaging around, there seems to be no web index of anything relevant | Oct 04 17:06 |
| Techrights-sec | which appears like a Motherboard article. | Oct 04 17:06 |
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| Techrights-sec | Debian: systemd, anti-RMS libel / lynch letter, proprietary drivers | Oct 04 20:26 |
| Techrights-sec | found it: https://www.vice.com/en/article/akejp8/cyber-inside-the-tool-the-us-military-is-using-to-monitor-emails-and-web-traffic | Oct 04 20:26 |
| Techrights-sec | """ | Oct 04 20:26 |
| Techrights-sec | One of the companies buying up all that data is Team Cymru who watches over all of it with a tool it calls Augury. Who buys Augury? Weve just learned a lot | Oct 04 20:26 |
| Techrights-sec | of agencies within the federal government. Cyber Command, the Army, the Navy, are all using Augury to paw through internet traffic. But what, exactly, are | Oct 04 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.vice.com | CYBER: Inside the Tool the US Military Is Using to Monitor Emails and Web Traffic | Oct 04 20:26 | |
| Techrights-sec | they looking for? And what can they even see? | Oct 04 20:26 |
| Techrights-sec | """ | Oct 04 20:26 |
| Techrights-sec | That's not really indexed though. | Oct 04 20:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ddbian votes to not make a statement on RMR | Oct 04 20:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | RMS | Oct 04 20:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | Some devs signed the letter as persons | Oct 04 20:27 |
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