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Techrights-secrestgarting httpdApr 05 07:31
Techrights-secHow much FOSS experience does Mendoza have?  https://linuxgizmos.com/about/Apr 05 07:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/about/ )Apr 05 07:31
schestowitz-TRMy last post on LinuxGizmos  Tux Machines  http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163347Apr 05 07:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | My last post on LinuxGizmos | Tux MachinesApr 05 07:32
schestowitz-TRI don't know his nameApr 05 07:32
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schestowitz-TRthanks for catching the downtime. Based on montastic's emails, that happened literally when I went to sleep and was corrected minutes later. Had nothing been done, there could be a 6-hour downtime. After 43 days apachetop also crashed, so I assume something in apache went a little funny.Apr 05 07:50
Techrights-secHow much FOSS experience does Mendoza have?  https://linuxgizmos.com/about/Apr 05 07:52
Techrights-secHe's mentioned in https://linuxgizmos.com/my-last-post-on-linuxgizmos/Apr 05 07:52
Techrights-secI tried sifting through the Apache logs later but could not find anything Apr 05 07:52
Techrights-secincriminating.Apr 05 07:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/my-last-post-on-linuxgizmos/ )Apr 05 07:52
schestowitz-TRyes, he got mentioned thereApr 05 07:53
schestowitz-TRI said more in IRCApr 05 07:53
schestowitz-TRabout linux.com and eric browsnApr 05 07:53
schestowitz-TRhe's a casualty of spamnil zemlinApr 05 07:53
schestowitz-TRand zemlin has just hired some unqualified "social" spammer as editorApr 05 07:53
schestowitz-TRa person who does not even use Linux!Apr 05 07:53
Techrights-secToo badApr 05 07:53
Techrights-secYes. Zemlin is working /against/ Linux and seems to always have been doing so.Apr 05 07:53
schestowitz-TRI thought about doing a video about itApr 05 07:54
schestowitz-TRmaybe I shouldApr 05 07:54
schestowitz-TRbut I don't have much to go with for more than 2 minsApr 05 07:54
Techrights-secackApr 05 07:55
schestowitz-TRI have (this morning) marked all the remainingf libreplanet talk as "read"Apr 05 07:58
schestowitz-TRAt this point I sift through many low-qualityApr 05 07:58
schestowitz-TRor not-relevant-to-usApr 05 07:58
schestowitz-TR"talks"Apr 05 07:58
schestowitz-TRsome of them are very low quality and can barely be called talksApr 05 07:58
schestowitz-TRto think they had snowden as keynote years ago Apr 05 07:58
schestowitz-TRthis year's keynote was nothing specialApr 05 07:58
schestowitz-TRand talks about two artists and their maca dna boatApr 05 07:58
schestowitz-TRvery odd they eleveated this to keynoteApr 05 07:58
schestowitz-TRmike gerwitzx stepped down it seemsApr 05 07:58
schestowitz-TRat least from the FSD thingsApr 05 07:58
schestowitz-TRbut amin bendali took his place immeiatelytApr 05 07:58
Techrights-secyes I noticed in a spot check.  They were too numerous so I stopped checking Apr 05 07:59
Techrights-secfurther.  Apr 05 07:59
schestowitz-TRyesterday I had to go through 6 talks before finding something adequateApr 05 08:00
schestowitz-TRand it was aobout ebooksApr 05 08:00
schestowitz-TRand not so relevant to usApr 05 08:00
schestowitz-TRso that was likel;y a sign that I've exhausted the stockApr 05 08:01
schestowitz-TRif you watch the librevr talk you may get a laughApr 05 08:01
Techrights-secthat is unfortunate, but matches what I sawApr 05 08:01
Techrights-secOn another topic, there could be a use for SUEPO to contact the national newsApr 05 08:04
Techrights-secservices directly via e-mail with a short paragraph in English or in translationApr 05 08:04
schestowitz-TRyou assume they have not thought of that or have not done thatApr 05 08:04
schestowitz-TRthis is not a new issue and we wrote many articles about the mediaApr 05 08:04
schestowitz-TRblackoutApr 05 08:04
schestowitz-TRspeaking of which, ursula and otehr eu officials get flack in twitterApr 05 08:04
schestowitz-TRciting some of our postsApr 05 08:04
schestowitz-TRthe EPO scandals spill over to EUApr 05 08:04
Techrights-secyes I assume thatApr 05 08:06
Techrights-sectwitter censors heavily based on pro-M$ politics, and pro-M$ is pro-software    Apr 05 08:06
Techrights-secpatentApr 05 08:06
Techrights-secIs there a published e-mail address for a SUEPO contact, should a way to breakApr 05 08:06
Techrights-secthe news blackout be found?Apr 05 08:06
schestowitz-TRI think it is on their web site, but SUPO (different one) might watch the commsApr 05 08:06
Techrights-secThey don't have a standalone e-mail address?  It would be dangerous to runApr 05 08:08
Techrights-secall their written communications through the EPO management.Apr 05 08:08
schestowitz-TRthe suepo domain is separate from epoApr 05 08:09
schestowitz-TRSUPO is an intel agencyApr 05 08:09
schestowitz-TRso I was making a jokeApr 05 08:09
schestowitz-TRotrsApr 05 08:47
schestowitz-TRvideo about LFApr 05 08:47
schestowitz-TROTRApr 05 08:47
schestowitz-TROTAApr 05 08:47
Techrights-secahApr 05 08:47
schestowitz-TRI have avoided naming anyone but Zemlin and the founder of LGApr 05 09:05
schestowitz-TRas the new people deserve benfit of the doubtApr 05 09:05
schestowitz-TRsort ofApr 05 09:05
schestowitz-TRit's 20 mins longApr 05 09:05
schestowitz-TRworking on the text nowApr 05 09:05
schestowitz-TRdraftApr 05 09:15
Techrights-secackApr 05 09:22
Techrights-secackApr 05 09:22
Techrights-secThe announcementof interest ought ot have a short, one-line-or-less descriptionApr 05 09:22
Techrights-secalso "includes an image" of what?Apr 05 09:22
schestowitz-TRthanks, I have made several improvementsApr 05 09:27
schestowitz-TRI will think of more info to add while it's processingApr 05 09:27
schestowitz-TRexpect the "news" to dry up some more now that Eric Brown is outApr 05 09:27
Techrights-secnpApr 05 09:27
Techrights-secyes, and other news sites seem to be slowing down.  ITWire to name one hasApr 05 09:27
Techrights-secbeen unavailable for daysApr 05 09:27
Techrights-secothers have been slow to post or not posted at all the last few daysApr 05 09:28
schestowitz-TRdon't wanna rammnble muchApr 05 09:42
schestowitz-TRbut yesApr 05 09:42
schestowitz-TRit's the same with patentsApr 05 09:42
schestowitz-TRyou get updates from maybe 20% of what you added to the feedsApr 05 09:42
schestowitz-TRthe downside isApr 05 09:42
schestowitz-TRwe don'\t know what goes onApr 05 09:42
schestowitz-TRor have very fewe data pointsApr 05 09:42
schestowitz-TRyupside is,Apr 05 09:42
schestowitz-TRwe have less ideaological oppositionApr 05 09:42
schestowitz-TRand less "competition"Apr 05 09:42
schestowitz-TRincluding in searchesApr 05 09:42
schestowitz-TRbut either wayApr 05 09:42
schestowitz-TRwe are NOT IN CONTROL OF WHAT OTHER SITES DOApr 05 09:42
schestowitz-TRit is what it isApr 05 09:42
Techrights-sec20% would be a very high estimate, the RSS feeds I see are about 5% per day atApr 05 09:43
Techrights-secbestApr 05 09:43
Techrights-secyes, there are so few covering topics that a great many important issues fallApr 05 09:43
Techrights-secbetween the cracks.  Apr 05 09:43
schestowitz-TRmy 20% figures was for weeklyApr 05 09:44
schestowitz-TRas I started reading patents only on sundaysApr 05 09:44
schestowitz-TRI am notw experimenting with daily againApr 05 09:44
schestowitz-TRbut the yield is not goodApr 05 09:44
schestowitz-TRthe net is emptyApr 05 09:44
schestowitz-TRand I stopped checking Gulag Noise alaertsApr 05 09:44
schestowitz-TRthey are too noisyApr 05 09:44
schestowitz-TRI might even cancel them allApr 05 09:44
schestowitz-TRone more step towards gulag-free lifeApr 05 09:44
Techrights-secackApr 05 09:45
Techrights-secBTW the backup drive here is pushing 90% full.  Using rsync means thatApr 05 09:53
Techrights-secdeletion would have to occur on the server in order to save space.  Apr 05 09:53
Techrights-secThoughts?Apr 05 09:53
schestowitz-TRrsync has a flag for deleting files that can no longer be found on the server, so if you rsync across from TR the older DB dumps that are no longer there would also get removed from your HDDApr 05 09:54
schestowitz-TRI personally do not like setting that flag, in case an accidental file deletion then gets propagated to the backup toApr 05 09:54
schestowitz-TR*tooApr 05 09:54
schestowitz-TRone workaround is doing a run with that option once a monthApr 05 09:55
schestowitz-TRso that run is a 'compacting pass'Apr 05 09:55
Techrights-secyes, that implies that we delete more of them from the serverApr 05 10:09
schestowitz-TRyou already wrote a script that culls out older stacks of backupsApr 05 10:10
Techrights-secyes that thins out a portion but perhaps more should be thinned out manuallApr 05 10:21
Techrights-secmanually on occasion?Apr 05 10:21
schestowitz-TRmy backup regime for the site is rather poorApr 05 10:23
schestowitz-TRI trust the RAID, if any, too muchApr 05 10:23
schestowitz-TRsometimes I take copies of the latest DBApr 05 10:23
schestowitz-TRor the latest year in the uploads directoryApr 05 10:23
schestowitz-TRmy relationship with the admin improvedApr 05 10:24
schestowitz-TRcompared to one year agoApr 05 10:24
schestowitz-TRbut it's good to have backups in case of total hardwareApr 05 10:24
schestowitz-TRbreakdownsApr 05 10:24
schestowitz-TRmaybe this coming weekend I will dump a full copy onto the new laptopApr 05 10:24
schestowitz-TRit's about 160GB, so can take days to complete Apr 05 10:24
Techrights-secIt's good that there is improvement.  Apr 05 11:06
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schestowitz-TR The platforms chosen by the EFF contradict its own stance of policy (if they still have any) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/podcast-episode-your-tax-dollars-workApr 05 12:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Podcast Episode: Your Tax Dollars At Work | Electronic Frontier FoundationApr 05 12:08
Techrights-secThey go so far as to boost M$ these days.Apr 05 12:09
Techrights-secAt least they also mention the Internet Archive but that should have beenApr 05 12:09
Techrights-secfeatured first and foremost among the options presented.Apr 05 12:09
Techrights-secOgg would have been a better container than MP3Apr 05 12:09
schestowitz-TRthere is anon-stat.eff.orgApr 05 12:13
schestowitz-TRtbh, no such thing should existApr 05 12:13
schestowitz-TRthey should not behave like a companyApr 05 12:13
schestowitz-TRthis loads up when you open their sideApr 05 12:13
schestowitz-TRwhose idea was it?Apr 05 12:13
schestowitz-TRthey use the term "big tech" several time in this episodeApr 05 12:13
schestowitz-TRmaybe they should get back to shilling DDGApr 05 12:13
schestowitz-TRand maybe https://www.eff.org/pages/effs-diversity-statementApr 05 12:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | EFF's Commitment to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion | Electronic Frontier FoundationApr 05 12:13
schestowitz-TRthis likely means a quotas systemApr 05 12:13
Techrights-secackApr 05 12:14
schestowitz-TRI am alol for diversityApr 05 12:15
schestowitz-TRbut quotas are not the wayApr 05 12:15
schestowitz-TRthey can be damagingApr 05 12:15
schestowitz-TRbecause they necessarily means lowering one's quality of recruitApr 05 12:15
schestowitz-TRor their suitability for the jobApr 05 12:15
schestowitz-TRmostly for optic's sakeApr 05 12:15
schestowitz-TRand then companies reward for itApr 05 12:15
schestowitz-TRthey do for D &IApr 05 12:15
schestowitz-TRbut it's more about defanging the watchdog IMHOApr 05 12:15
Techrights-secthere are very strong arguments against quotas Apr 05 12:16
Techrights-secrecruiting and call for papers can be done "blind" to much greater effect.  Apr 05 12:16
Techrights-secSee how LFSE did it, yet were attacked for having neither quotas nor sucking CocCApr 05 12:16
schestowitz-TRattacked?Apr 05 12:16
schestowitz-TRThat's what social control media is forApr 05 12:16
schestowitz-TRUkraine obliterated the Web this wayApr 05 12:16
schestowitz-TRsiccing mobsApr 05 12:16
Techrights-secYes the mob went after him and, in person, threatened physical violence IIRCApr 05 12:18
Techrights-secSeveral references were in the links many years ago including a long interviewApr 05 12:18
Techrights-secs/LFSE/SELF/Apr 05 12:18
schestowitz-TRoff topic ranApr 05 12:41
schestowitz-TRrant:Apr 05 12:41
schestowitz-TRtechdirt resorted to very bad language in recent years Apr 05 12:41
schestowitz-TRlike very bad words like "fucking" in headlinesApr 05 12:42
schestowitz-TRthe topics covered are not what they had been until a decade agoApr 05 12:42
schestowitz-TRI often do not agree with the position or the conclusion eitherApr 05 12:42
schestowitz-TRbut then again mmasnick isn't the sole mwrite thereApr 05 12:42
schestowitz-TRhe used to sling like 10 decent posts a dayApr 05 12:42
schestowitz-TRthat changed after a whileApr 05 12:42
schestowitz-TRand now it's TONS of politicsApr 05 12:42
schestowitz-TRor some things about policeApr 05 12:42
schestowitz-TRthat addresses a set of ssubjects already covered by mediaApr 05 12:42
schestowitz-TRand leaves vacuum in areas like copyrightsApr 05 12:42
Techrights-secIt's so that the topics are more easily downranked in the search engine results,Apr 05 12:43
Techrights-secas sort of reverse SEOApr 05 12:43
Techrights-secWhen they stick to technology, and technology policy, they still do a good job.Apr 05 12:43
Techrights-secWith politics and related controversies, they often pick up easily debunked but Apr 05 12:43
Techrights-secpopulist positions.Apr 05 12:43
Techrights-secYes, they used to cover copyright issues quite thoroughly and are losing the  Apr 05 12:43
Techrights-secplot there.Apr 05 12:43
schestowitz-TRit is just that copyright issue make up no more than 20% of the totalApr 05 12:43
schestowitz-TRpatents not even 5-10%Apr 05 12:43
Techrights-secackApr 05 12:45
schestowitz-TRi guess that on some rather supierficial level I am ok with iApr 05 12:47
schestowitz-TR*itApr 05 12:47
schestowitz-TRknowing it means less "competition" for usApr 05 12:47
schestowitz-TRbut sometimes it helps with a wider set of people is outraged byApr 05 12:47
schestowitz-TRobvious bad policyApr 05 12:47
schestowitz-TREPO and Microsoft crimes are among thoseeApr 05 12:47
schestowitz-TRwhen did you LAST see ANY article concerning software patents?Apr 05 12:47
schestowitz-TRmaybe we can get will smith to slap some patent troll on stageApr 05 12:47
schestowitz-TRand bring the issue back to the center/frontApr 05 12:47
Techrights-secI figure more sites covering those topics help with outreachApr 05 12:48
Techrights-secLast?  Months ago and then mabye a year or so before that again.Apr 05 12:48
schestowitz-TRyes, I was going to say some time last yearApr 05 12:48
schestowitz-TR fossforce gets paid by Zemlin for this webspam of LF https://fossforce.com/2022/04/free-training-and-certification-linux-foundation-taking-submissions-for-lift-scholarships see http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/not-so-linux-foundation/Apr 05 12:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fossforce.com | Free Training and Certification: Linux Foundation Taking Submissions for LiFT Scholarships - FOSS ForceApr 05 12:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Should Remove Linux From Its Name | TechrightsApr 05 12:57
schestowitz-TRIt is worth remembering that only years afo fossforce was a vocal critic Apr 05 12:57
schestowitz-TRof LF Apr 05 12:57
schestowitz-TRwill they persist with a consistent position on that issue?Apr 05 12:57
schestowitz-TRhaha, not bloody likely !!Apr 05 12:57
Techrights-sec:(Apr 05 12:57
Techrights-secunfortunate. Apr 05 12:57
schestowitz-TRthe modus operandi of EPO managementApr 05 12:57
schestowitz-TRand winston in 1984Apr 05 12:58
Techrights-secackApr 05 13:01
schestowitz-TRWinston NicholsApr 05 13:01
schestowitz-TRif you can suggest a video topic, it would help me a lotApr 05 13:06
schestowitz-TRa tad slow at epo and linux is just fluffApr 05 13:06
Techrights-secackApr 05 13:06
Techrights-secif there were more data to track the decline of Linux coverage that wouldApr 05 13:06
Techrights-secbe useful; there is data on the general dismantling of journalism but nothingApr 05 13:06
Techrights-secspecific to Linux or FOSS or even general ICTApr 05 13:06
schestowitz-TRwe covered this in the pastApr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TRalso, as you note, the real news isn't to do with linuxApr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TRbut all topicsApr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TRorApr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TRall of "the web"Apr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TRor "readers' 'consumption'"Apr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TRI am not in a position to comment on thisApr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TRbut it would be a nice dissertatioin/thesis topicApr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TRwhich would involve collecting a lot of dataApr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TRlike # of writersApr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TRnumber of sitesApr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TRmind you, social control media is rotting alsoApr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TRinc. gulagtubeApr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TRthey juyst try to squeeze some cash on the way outApr 05 13:08
schestowitz-TROTA, found something at epo.orgfApr 05 13:09
Techrights-secackApr 05 13:09
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schestowitz-TRhttps://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/how-to-get-your-domain-suspended-in-five-easy-steps/BBBApr 05 13:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/how-to-get-your-domain-suspended-in-five-easy-steps/BBB )Apr 05 13:55
schestowitz-TRi read quickly through itApr 05 13:55
schestowitz-TRJS+social contropl media+dnsApr 05 13:55
schestowitz-TRbloat shit = 3-4 days offlineApr 05 13:55
Techrights-secackApr 05 13:55
schestowitz-TRhe mentions gulag clown at the endApr 05 13:55
schestowitz-TR$500/year Apr 05 13:55
schestowitz-TRI should show this to some idiotsApr 05 13:55
schestowitz-TRmaybe they will stomp saying "Google is your friend"Apr 05 13:55
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schestowitz-TRota\Apr 05 15:01
schestowitz-TRI keep pushing the point about vaccines and patentsApr 05 15:01
schestowitz-TRwhich I think will helpApr 05 15:01
schestowitz-TRgiven that the audience includes many patent examinersApr 05 15:02
schestowitz-TRI hope I speak in an accent and pace that makes it easy to understandApr 05 15:02
schestowitz-TReven for those whose English is not a first languageApr 05 15:02
schestowitz-TRsome people don't take into account the pace and the targetApr 05 15:02
schestowitz-TRaudience, so their ability to get a message across is impededApr 05 15:02
schestowitz-TRapmnil just chews up lots of words and is buzzword-droppingApr 05 15:02
schestowitz-TRno wonder nobody watches that shitApr 05 15:02
schestowitz-TRbut the EPO's presidents are appalling spreakersApr 05 15:02
schestowitz-TRit's like watching a couple of frenchmen in a fish marketApr 05 15:02
schestowitz-TRof course their mpoor communication skills work in our favourApr 05 15:02
Techrights-secackApr 05 15:02
Techrights-secI think soApr 05 15:02
Techrights-secputting his shit on that site is killing it on purposeApr 05 15:02
Techrights-secthey are not in their office because of their skills or abilities, which theyApr 05 15:02
Techrights-secgenerally lackApr 05 15:02
schestowitz-TRthis is what senior staff has long complained aboutApr 05 15:03
schestowitz-TRthe hiring standards have collapsed also for examinersApr 05 15:03
schestowitz-TRnow I can record another video on ther other laptop while the first is processingApr 05 15:04
schestowitz-TRI think I will use both for thisApr 05 15:04
schestowitz-TRcan you think of a pressing topic?Apr 05 15:04
Techrights-secnot off the top of my headApr 05 15:34
schestowitz-TRI eneded up doing a video showing how I use the new setupApr 05 15:50
schestowitz-TRdrafgtApr 05 16:20
Techrights-secDoes SUEPO have a news or blog feed covering the strike before and after?Apr 05 16:25
Techrights-sec\Apr 05 16:25
schestowitz-TRyes, rss and web site. the media ignored that.Apr 05 16:25
Techrights-secthen that should be linked in the postApr 05 16:26
Techrights-secthanksApr 05 16:26
schestowitz-TRaddingApr 05 16:26
Techrights-secI think it helps to try to drive traffic their directionApr 05 16:34
schestowitz-TRif done too often, either way, it contributes to the idea of 'collusion' or coordinationApr 05 16:35
Techrights-sec:/Apr 05 16:41
Techrights-secTheir site is not navigableApr 05 16:41
schestowitz-TRthey 'modernised' it about 5 years agoApr 05 16:41
Techrights-secOne can't just start at the SUEPO site and find out their activities and goalsApr 05 16:42
Techrights-secmaybe they like it like that.Apr 05 16:42
Techrights-secModernized as in removed all aspects of usability and discoverabuility in Apr 05 16:42
Techrights-secexchange for "engagement" as measured by fruitless interacvtion for long Apr 05 16:42
Techrights-secdurations.  Apr 05 16:42
Techrights-sec(around but not near the computer)Apr 05 16:54
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schestowitz-TRdraftApr 05 21:38
Techrights-secackApr 05 21:38
Techrights-seca few words about what is exposed in the metadata would helpApr 05 21:38
schestowitz-TRdoneApr 05 21:43
Techrights-secthanksApr 05 21:44
schestowitz-TRat least you can tell that they feel the heat :-)Apr 05 21:44
Techrights-secyes but their reaction is to attack the messenger not fix their behaviorApr 05 21:44
Techrights-secackApr 05 21:50
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