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schestowitz-TRtoday I start the links in the middleMay 06 07:12
schestowitz-TRglad to see CN saying "social control media" in a headline ;-May 06 07:12
schestowitz-TR;-)May 06 07:12
schestowitz-TR*SNMay 06 07:13
schestowitz-TRreading the comments now, they seem decentMay 06 07:15
Techrights-secexcellentMay 06 07:31
Techrights-secopenwashing caught on too May 06 07:31
schestowitz-TRopenwashing caught on too May 06 07:32
Techrights-secyes though the act of openwashing does not get called out enoughMay 06 07:32
schestowitz-TRI joked in IRC about Microsoft using 1995 abandonware for openwashing in PROPRIETARY shithubMay 06 07:33
schestowitz-TRas the media is dead noboddy in "the media" called them out on it May 06 07:33
Techrights-secM$ dumps abandoned code for *tiny* *irrelevant* programs and calls it supportingMay 06 07:38
Techrights-secOpen Source or as the microsofters write it, open-sourceMay 06 07:38
schestowitz-TRthenthe MSFT-sponsored "media" claps claps cmapsMay 06 07:40
schestowitz-TRlooks lik Wall Street is having some reality checksMay 06 07:40
schestowitz-TRLyft and Uber includedMay 06 07:40
schestowitz-TRMany people with high-risk investment are going to lose a lot of moneyMay 06 07:40
Techrights-secUber and Lyft are scams but only on the surface, the main purpose looks toMay 06 07:47
Techrights-secbe to knock whatremains of the bottom out of the labor market.  There are nowMay 06 07:47
Techrights-sectons of shit jobs with shit pay and part of the reason for the increase inMay 06 07:47
Techrights-secboth is because of Uber, Lyft, and the other gig-oriented phone apps.May 06 07:47
Techrights-secSo anyone putting money into gig-oriented companies like Uber and Lyft are notMay 06 07:47
Techrights-secinvesting but gambling and the house always wins and the house, in that case,May 06 07:47
Techrights-secuses some of its take to further attack the very concept of employmentMay 06 07:47
schestowitz-TRebay barely brings any sales anymoreMay 06 07:48
schestowitz-TRI think it might work for very few "large sellers" who know how to "game" the systemMay 06 07:48
schestowitz-TRmaybe similar to gulagtube after some changesMay 06 07:48
Techrights-secThere are services in town here, which I won't patronize, where not only May 06 07:49
Techrights-secare the workers given zero-hour contracts but also have to hire both theMay 06 07:49
Techrights-secspace they use for work and the tools and equipment needed for said work. :(May 06 07:49
schestowitz-TRrianne and I spoke about car businesses that merely rent their carsMay 06 07:51
schestowitz-TRthat was yesterday afternoonMay 06 07:51
schestowitz-TRI told her this industry sickens me and even our gym started merely renting its May 06 07:51
schestowitz-TRequipmetnMay 06 07:51
schestowitz-TR"as a service"May 06 07:51
schestowitz-TRplus the maintenance, that's the service...May 06 07:51
schestowitz-TRIIRC, based on the video I saw after the Ukraine war had eruptedMay 06 07:51
schestowitz-TRmost arirlines do not even own their planeesMay 06 07:51
schestowitz-TRthey rent themMay 06 07:51
Techrights-secyoutube does seem to be either on the way out or else in line for some veryMay 06 07:52
Techrights-secmajor changes, beyond the ad spamming which has been recently inflicted on itMay 06 07:52
Techrights-secyep that's the kind of problm mentioned aboveMay 06 07:52
Techrights-sec2014 or 2022?May 06 07:52
Techrights-secTHe air travel industry needs a complete makeover including scrapping of mostMay 06 07:52
Techrights-secof the existing fleetMay 06 07:52
Techrights-sechttps://youtu.be/tKodtNFpzBAMay 06 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=tKodtNFpzBAMay 06 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidious.osi.kr | The Machine that goes Ping - InvidiousMay 06 07:53
schestowitz-TRheh, some classicMay 06 07:57
schestowitz-TRyou could say it is virtual ownershipMay 06 07:57
schestowitz-TRnow it is "as a  service"May 06 07:57
schestowitz-TR"pay as you go"May 06 07:57
schestowitz-TRmany now 'buy' their 'smart' 'phone' as a "plan" or "installman"May 06 07:57
schestowitz-TRspreading the feesMay 06 07:57
schestowitz-TRso a lot of companies that "sell" things are basically links banksMay 06 07:57
schestowitz-TRgiving small loansMay 06 07:57
schestowitz-TRICBM included. for mainframesMay 06 07:57
schestowitz-TRtheir clients are like bank clientsMay 06 07:57
schestowitz-TRpaying monthly feesMay 06 07:57
schestowitz-TRnot sure what you meant by 2014 or 2022May 06 07:57
Techrights-secthe attack on UkraineMay 06 08:04
Techrights-secthe propaganda part ofthe war started considerably earlier but the May 06 08:04
Techrights-secmilitary moved in during 2014 and the EU sat on its handsMay 06 08:04
schestowitz-TRFor 4 years there was also a seating US Lukanshnko May 06 08:05
schestowitz-TRI've just noticed that in today's links, with "automated" part added, something in the formatMay 06 08:25
schestowitz-TRchange a littleMay 06 08:25
schestowitz-TRand some sed 'regex' would not catch what it did beforeMay 06 08:25
schestowitz-TRcan the change be undone?May 06 08:25
Techrights-seca <hr /> was added.  It can be removedMay 06 08:26
schestowitz-TRmaybe tidy then changes the structure of thingsMay 06 08:28
schestowitz-TRa little bitMay 06 08:28
schestowitz-TRI've compared two filesMay 06 08:28
schestowitz-TRthere are not empty <p></p<May 06 08:28
schestowitz-TRinside empty blockquote May 06 08:28
schestowitz-TRI actually handle these with perlMay 06 08:28
Techrights-secsed should never be used for HTML or any other XML / SGML derivative anywayMay 06 08:29
Techrights-secAh.  That is an attempt to clean up the automated links so that all items May 06 08:29
Techrights-sechave a similar structure regardless of whether they are empty or not.May 06 08:29
Techrights-secIt is part of tracking down missing descriptionsMay 06 08:29
Techrights-secxmlstarlet is more appropriate than sed in this contextMay 06 08:29
schestowitz-TROK, so it is that thing which led to the 'issue' May 06 08:30
Techrights-secyes I think soMay 06 08:31
Techrights-secline breaks will also ruin sed scriptsMay 06 08:31
Techrights-secxmlstarlet (for shell scripts) or else python or perl , etc May 06 08:31
schestowitz-TRit was just a dirty hack in perl to automated what I had done manuallyMay 06 08:31
Techrights-secperl but with XPath or another proper XML parser?  Otherwise the brittlnessMay 06 08:33
Techrights-secwill be a pernennial problem.May 06 08:33
Techrights-secWhich script?May 06 08:38
schestowitz-TRtimeline.shMay 06 08:38
schestowitz-TRlots of stale stuff in there tooMay 06 08:38
schestowitz-TRit's just a bunch of conversions plus other stuff on topMay 06 08:38
schestowitz-TRpreprocessng the filesMay 06 08:38
Techrights-secThat's got lots of sedMay 06 08:42
schestowitz-TRit is a big pile of tchnical debtMay 06 08:43
schestowitz-TRbut not likely to ever be used by anyone but meMay 06 08:43
Techrights-secyou can add a second line to process <blockquote><p> thenMay 06 08:50
Techrights-secor else invest in xmlstarletMay 06 08:50
schestowitz-TRyeah, I just wondered what had changedMay 06 08:53
schestowitz-TRa lot of the things there should really be commented out as they areMay 06 08:53
schestowitz-TRfor social control media and just add i/o overheadMay 06 08:53
schestowitz-TRit's designed luke a thick layer of duct tapeMay 06 08:53
schestowitz-TRnot even designedMay 06 08:53
Techrights-sec"a week of coding will save an hour of planning"May 06 08:58
Techrights-sectry git, might need some tuning on your endMay 06 08:58
schestowitz-TRbbiab exerciseMay 06 10:21
Techrights-secackMay 06 10:21
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schestowitz-TRI've push some changesMay 06 11:46
schestowitz-TRThe latter change, I think, can save me about 30 secs per day and reduce chances of humanMay 06 11:46
schestowitz-TRerrorMay 06 11:46
schestowitz-TR30 secsx30 days = ~ 15 mins times 12 months = 3 hoursMay 06 11:46
schestowitz-TRI wish I had done this earlierMay 06 11:46
schestowitz-TRI told rianne, the main question is, will this process lastg years?May 06 11:46
schestowitz-TRif I had known it would, I could save a ton of timeMay 06 11:46
schestowitz-TRnext thurs have gulag "Meet", I will record itMay 06 11:47
Techrights-secit pays to periodically refactor and to aim one step aheadMay 06 11:47
Techrights-secchecking git ...May 06 11:47
schestowitz-TRLOL, Ubuntu LoCo Council has begun deleting the spam or restored from backupMay 06 11:51
schestowitz-TRor bothMay 06 11:52
schestowitz-TRtoday while shaving I watched some kde neon interviews with jriddellMay 06 11:52
schestowitz-TRwho was aacked by ShutjtleworthMay 06 11:52
schestowitz-TRbeccause I use his distroMay 06 11:52
schestowitz-TRUbuntu is "opportunist" feeding off DebianMay 06 11:52
schestowitz-TRDaniel P sent me an emailMay 06 11:52
schestowitz-TRhe will be speaking in a UN event this summerMay 06 11:52
Techrights-secackMay 06 12:04
Techrights-secvery good, do you know in advance the topic he will present to the UN?May 06 12:04
schestowitz-TRI would have to open thunderbird (massive strain on swap) to checkMay 06 12:05
Techrights-secackMay 06 12:17
schestowitz-TRtoday I have some spare time in the sense that I can sense no urgencyMay 06 12:38
schestowitz-TRso I will try to tidy up some scriptsMay 06 12:38
schestowitz-TRI've also just checked to ensure that the 'expired' SSD, based on mtime,May 06 12:38
schestowitz-TRdoes not have something I fear losingMay 06 12:38
schestowitz-TRin case it completely breaks downMay 06 12:38
schestowitz-TRI did the same with 'ted' in 2020May 06 12:38
schestowitz-TRthis one can be dedeemed by a new drive, but I want to get my money's worth off of itMay 06 12:38
Techrights-secackMay 06 12:38
schestowitz-TRit does a lot of i/o in video processingMay 06 12:38
schestowitz-TRso maybe it's a good idea to separate that machine from sensitive dataMay 06 12:38
schestowitz-TRgemini or Planet Gemini has a new section in itMay 06 12:39
schestowitz-TRI want to improve a few things here and thereMay 06 12:39
schestowitz-TRI use that a lotMay 06 12:39
schestowitz-TRsearching workpress for "gemini://" I get 522 past postsMay 06 12:39
schestowitz-TRsome of them have over a dozen linksMay 06 12:39
schestowitz-TRI'd have to run an sql query on wrdps.posts (not revisions) to know the totalMay 06 12:39
Techrights-secwhat still needed is general support with a proper gemini client packagedMay 06 12:40
Techrights-secfor debianMay 06 12:40
schestowitz-TRMichel packaged one for Fedora (Lagrange), days ago he packaged something for Ubuntu and saidMay 06 12:41
schestowitz-TRhe would do Debian nextMay 06 12:41
schestowitz-TRGive it time, give them userMay 06 12:41
schestowitz-TRthe users themselves would sooner or later either package that themselves or askMay 06 12:41
schestowitz-TRsomeone toMay 06 12:41
schestowitz-TRFedora is in a tough placeMay 06 12:41
Techrights-secfedora is mostly IBM staff and the rest only those willing to toe the IBM May 06 12:46
Techrights-seclineMay 06 12:46
Techrights-secif I understand the Fedora situation.  I don't follow it muchMay 06 12:46
schestowitz-TRYes, me saying this rep;eatedly has not helped the project, but it is true and I'd likeMay 06 12:48
schestowitz-TRto see those same volunteers putting the same effort into Arch, Gentoo, Neon etc.May 06 12:48
schestowitz-TRFedora is ahead of the surve in some regard, but I think it's mostly a toyMay 06 12:48
schestowitz-TRfor IBM to get bug reports before pushing stuff to their crown jewelsMay 06 12:48
Techrights-secyes it looks like a development testbed for RHEL and any deviation fromMay 06 13:04
Techrights-secthat goal is squelchedMay 06 13:04
schestowitz-TRthis longstanding perception has meant Fedora has not many forks or derivsMay 06 13:08
schestowitz-TRbut I think there are technical reasons for that tooMay 06 13:08
schestowitz-TRGNU/Linux is doing OK, I feel a lot more "at home" now with bleeding edgeMay 06 13:08
schestowitz-TRKDEMay 06 13:08
schestowitz-TRbut kde neon is not what I would use for a mission-critical system so to speakMay 06 13:08
schestowitz-TRvonick is still my main machine, but the data on it I regard as transientMay 06 13:08
schestowitz-TReven the text files I edit on there are edited over sshMay 06 13:08
schestowitz-TRI love this approach a great deal as it means that unless two machines are May 06 13:08
schestowitz-TRdown at the same time your work is quite safeMay 06 13:08
schestowitz-TRit's the master/slave approach, but we cannot say this anymoreMay 06 13:08
schestowitz-TRthe main reason I bought bubi was, thunderbird is big and I don't trust a rotting May 06 13:08
schestowitz-TRdrive with my mail boxesMay 06 13:08
schestowitz-TRvlc on kde neon causes issues, including (I suspect) severe memory leaksMay 06 13:08
Techrights-secackMay 06 13:33
Techrights-secI tried ordering the book "Digital Vegan" via a bookshop in the capitolMay 06 13:56
Techrights-secbut they were not able to get ahold of it.  The remaining local bookshopMay 06 13:56
Techrights-secdoesn't take special orders any more so I am not sure of a domestecMay 06 13:56
Techrights-secsource for the book.  Ordering from the UK has some prohibitve costsMay 06 13:56
Techrights-secand bureaucracy attached.May 06 13:56
schestowitz-TRyou can see the Gemini Planet nowMay 06 14:02
schestowitz-TRI am still working on the scriptMay 06 14:02
schestowitz-TRI will try to de-duplicate qith uniq or similarMay 06 14:02
schestowitz-TRI have decided to attempt clustering, not de-duplicationMay 06 14:02
schestowitz-TRI think I need imperative programming or OOP for this, with bash scripting it can be hardMay 06 14:02
schestowitz-TRthe problem is like this:May 06 14:02
Techrights-secack May 06 14:02
Techrights-seclookingMay 06 14:02
schestowitz-TRfile1 file2 file3 May 06 14:02
schestowitz-TReach has May 06 14:02
schestowitz-TR# DateMay 06 14:02
schestowitz-TRunder each date a list:May 06 14:02
schestowitz-TR=> xMay 06 14:02
schestowitz-TR=> y May 06 14:02
schestowitz-TR=>May 06 14:02
schestowitz-TRwe want a new file, file x, that combined for each date all the items below itMay 06 14:03
schestowitz-TR(a sort of planet of planets)May 06 14:03
schestowitz-TRone option is, create a file for reach dataMay 06 14:03
schestowitz-TRand then spill onto itMay 06 14:03
schestowitz-TRthen uniq -u May 06 14:03
schestowitz-TRthen display x latest daysMay 06 14:03
schestowitz-TRI think I might do it like thatMay 06 14:03
Techrights-secok   May 06 14:04
Techrights-secI was just thinking but don't quite understand the goal so I won't intefereMay 06 14:04
schestowitz-TRI think I can handle it, unless "looking" is no longer applicable?May 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRone upside is, we are left with a dated archive of a lot of geminispaceMay 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRone file per dateMay 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRthat file can, later on, May 06 14:08
schestowitz-TR*FILESMay 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRbe presented in one page that is an indexMay 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRso planet gemini becames likeMay 06 14:08
Techrights-secmaybe 'offsite' in the path name?May 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRGemini ArchiveMay 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRcome to think of it... let's start with an archiveMay 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRthen, presenting days {present} to {x days ago}May 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRis super-simpleMay 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRand we get 2 in 1May 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRwhat directory to use to not confuse people (assuming wrongly it's techrights archive)?May 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRgemini:techrights.org/Geminispace-Archive ?May 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRlike Wayback machine except without local copies but just links? May 06 14:08
schestowitz-TRok, offsiteMay 06 14:08
Techrights-secor 'outerspace' ?May 06 14:11
schestowitz-TRsome of these are Techrights (we are in some planets) and some are gopherMay 06 14:12
Techrights-secor 'planets' ?May 06 14:13
schestowitz-TRto keep it simple it'll only update the file and grow the file for the current day or past 3 daysMay 06 14:15
schestowitz-TRthen leave alone older onesMay 06 14:15
schestowitz-TRmaybe /planet/archive/ ?May 06 14:15
Techrights-secor 'othercapsules' ?May 06 14:15
schestowitz-TRyes, I will do thatMay 06 14:15
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Techrights-secsed can kind of do that so can AWKMay 06 14:49
Techrights-secsed -n -e '/spat/,/e[pat/p'May 06 14:49
Techrights-secsed -n -e '/spat/,/epat/p'May 06 14:49
Techrights-secawk '/spat/,/epat/'May 06 14:49
Techrights-seca blank line is /^$/May 06 14:49
schestowitz-TRcan you think of trick to step grep -A NUM until some pattern in a line is found, e.g. a blank line?May 06 14:50
schestowitz-TRI'm close to doing all this with a one-liner of bashMay 06 14:50
schestowitz-TRneed to "delimit" the output before the prior date starts May 06 14:50
schestowitz-TRI think I know a trickMay 06 14:50
schestowitz-TRdo the same for prior day, then subtract the outputMay 06 14:50
schestowitz-TRthanks, getting very close nowMay 06 14:50
Techrights-secackMay 06 15:18
schestowitz-TRdoneMay 06 15:19
schestowitz-TRtesting nowMay 06 15:19
schestowitz-TRit is generating and regenrating today's and yesterday'sMay 06 15:19
schestowitz-TRas some items can "arrive" a day lateMay 06 15:19
schestowitz-TRI will make an index page for the archiveMay 06 15:19
Techrights-secackMay 06 15:32
Techrights-secChris Trottier pointed out on mastodon thatMay 06 15:34
Techrights-sec1. Microsoft paid SCO $14 million in Unix LicensesMay 06 15:34
Techrights-sec2. SCO debtors had to pay IBM $14,250,000May 06 15:34
schestowitz-TRWho is this guy and what are the connections other than the similarity in sums so many years apart?May 06 15:39
schestowitz-TRcould be someone saw similar numbers and connected the numbers, like people connecting triange, saucers, May 06 15:39
schestowitz-TRand other random symbolsMay 06 15:39
schestowitz-TRor some creases on the trousers of Lady ObamaMay 06 15:39
Techrights-secno clueMay 06 15:40
Techrights-secthere's no corresponding blog post or articleMay 06 15:40
Techrights-seccould beMay 06 15:40
Techrights-secbut the creases have a shapeMay 06 15:40
schestowitz-TRyes, but then that becomes an Obama strawman about First Lady literally donning a penisMay 06 15:42
schestowitz-TRand distracts from all sorts of real Obama issuesMay 06 15:42
schestowitz-TRin the case of SCO, the payments from Microsoft are not newsMay 06 15:42
schestowitz-TRBruce Pernes wrote about it in Linux.comMay 06 15:42
schestowitz-TRbefore the site became a shit dumpMay 06 15:42
Techrights-sechttps://www.theregister.com/2021/08/30/sco_tsg_vs_ibm_settlement/May 06 15:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | SCO v. IBM settlement deal is done, but zombie case shuffles on elsewhere • The RegisterMay 06 15:43
Techrights-sechttps://www.heise.de/news/SCO-vs-Linux-IBM-soll-14-25-Millionen-US-Dollar-zahlen-6179831.htmlMay 06 15:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.heise.de | SCO vs. Linux: IBM soll 14,25 Millionen US-Dollar zahlen | heise onlineMay 06 15:48
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Techrights-secnot finding anything recent on SCOMay 06 16:04
schestowitz-TRit's like novell, just some history lessonMay 06 16:04
schestowitz-TR(of course some try to change history and present distortion versions of it)May 06 16:04
schestowitz-TRlike OSI deleting the halloween documents from tis site and taking microsoft bribesMay 06 16:04
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Techrights-secnot finding anything recent on SCOMay 06 16:17
Techrights-secyes in the quiet interval, the revisionists can push their agenda more easilyMay 06 16:17
Techrights-secackMay 06 16:17
Techrights-sec" my fellow boardmembers at the Open Source Initiative made me move this off the OSI site"May 06 16:17
Techrights-sechttp://www.catb.org/~esr/not-the-osi/halloween-rant.htmlMay 06 16:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.catb.org | The Halloween Documents: An AppreciationMay 06 16:17
schestowitz-TRboardmembers - whose?May 06 16:21
schestowitz-TRthat's why I don't like such orgsMay 06 16:21
schestowitz-TRlater they also banned himMay 06 16:21
schestowitz-TRpay money, become boardmember/s, oust the org from the guy inside outMay 06 16:21
schestowitz-TRlike in effMay 06 16:21
schestowitz-TRexcept in eff one died on his ownMay 06 16:21
schestowitz-TRand his friend didn't enjoy protection anymoreMay 06 16:21
schestowitz-TRat the end the money calls the shotsMay 06 16:21
schestowitz-TRbtw, rianne left bargain-hunting 10 mins agoMay 06 16:21
schestowitz-TRbefore she left she told me almost 20k workers in groceries will now be redundantMay 06 16:21
schestowitz-TRas mccools, where we find the most discounted goods, is going bust :( May 06 16:21
schestowitz-TRthat can impact our food billMay 06 16:21
Techrights-secpay to playMay 06 16:21
Techrights-secthey set up the organization for such a take over, either naively orMay 06 16:21
Techrights-secintentionallyMay 06 16:21
Techrights-sec"redundant" == fired for increased short term profit, long term lossMay 06 16:21
schestowitz-TRno, the whole company goes into "administration"May 06 16:23
schestowitz-TRbritishism for going underMay 06 16:23
schestowitz-TRthere is no rescue planMay 06 16:23
schestowitz-TRwe can expect all the stores to shut downMay 06 16:23
schestowitz-TRwith some of our friends who sell us foodMay 06 16:23
schestowitz-TRthis is a big blow, the other stores are further away and don't stock same discount levelsMay 06 16:23
schestowitz-TRin mccolls we got used to finding milk or bread for just 10p given the right timesMay 06 16:23
schestowitz-TRpaying full price for food when prices soar is a bad thingMay 06 16:23
Techrights-secwell that sucks thenMay 06 16:24
Techrights-secthe gradual creation of food deserts in the cityMay 06 16:24
schestowitz-TRthis changes many calculationsMay 06 16:25
schestowitz-TRinc. quitting the companyMay 06 16:25
schestowitz-TRif we no longer go to the gym and if we cannot find good discounts in many stores in town, we canMay 06 16:25
schestowitz-TRmove further away from the cityMay 06 16:25
schestowitz-TRat the moment home prices are a bubbleMay 06 16:26
schestowitz-TRbad time to buy oneMay 06 16:26
schestowitz-TRquick thoughtsMay 06 16:35
schestowitz-TRI have 3 tests left to do hereMay 06 16:35
schestowitz-TRre fb, cnetralised comms was always easier, now it's innovation to move back to it?May 06 16:35
schestowitz-TRnews/media very slow today, rianne barely found anythingMay 06 16:35
schestowitz-TRre tests, i added a new page called  latest May 06 16:35
schestowitz-TRit's a combined page for all capsules for today and yesterdayMay 06 16:35
schestowitz-TRas expected, as a whole it takes longer than initially expected, mostly because I add more things that IMay 06 16:35
schestowitz-TRhad intended at firstMay 06 16:35
schestowitz-TRgemini will soon be about 10% of our Daily LinksMay 06 16:35
Techrights-secevery day is a slow news day in recent yearsMay 06 16:35
Techrights-secamfora and elpa-elpher are both in Debian now!!May 06 16:36
Techrights-secDevuan 5 (daedalus)May 06 16:37
schestowitz-TRgood news.May 06 16:37
schestowitz-TRdebian 10, 11, or both? I can do a video where I show 'live' how to add it May 06 16:37
schestowitz-TRand to say it's aded to debian, hence sparkylinux etc.May 06 16:37
schestowitz-TRlet me apt search on 10 and 11May 06 16:37
Techrights-secelpa-elpher is in Raspberry Pi OS so farMay 06 16:38
Techrights-secackMay 06 16:38
schestowitz-TRI have just chedked. bullseye has elpher and 10 (buster) had noneMay 06 16:44
schestowitz-TRso maybe it's a devuan thingMay 06 16:44
schestowitz-TRor maybe some other explanationMay 06 16:44
Techrights-secackMay 06 16:52
Techrights-secit's based on Bookworm (debian 12)May 06 16:52
schestowitz-TRdeadalus based on deadian, as MinceR might sayMay 06 16:52
Techrights-secyes it is a cleaned up version of debian but the question is whether May 06 16:55
Techrights-secsystemd can metastacize faster than dvuan can excise itMay 06 16:55
Techrights-secmaybe if more debian derivatives join in ...May 06 16:55
Techrights-sechttps://www.devuan.org/os/devuan-distrosMay 06 16:58
Techrights-sechttps://distrowatch.com/search.php?basedon=Devuan#simpleMay 06 16:58
Techrights-secthat second link does not give accurate resultsMay 06 16:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.devuan.org | Devuan-Based Distributions | Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating SystemMay 06 16:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.May 06 16:58
schestowitzgemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/index.gmiMay 06 17:01
schestowitzgemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/May 06 17:01
schestowitzif this looks OK to you, I shall push to git.May 06 17:02
schestowitz-TRforgot the most important page:May 06 17:02
schestowitz-TRgemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/latestMay 06 17:02
schestowitz-TRfound and fixed another bug just now, wrong date was shown in a titleMay 06 17:04
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Techrights-secackMay 06 17:10
Techrights-secwhat's with all the cyrillic?May 06 17:10
schestowitz-TRCAPCOM syndicates at least one russian capsuleMay 06 17:11
schestowitz-TRUK COVID-19 Deaths 'Backlog' http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/06/uk-deaths-covid-19-in-april/May 06 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK COVID-19 Deaths ‘Backlog’May 06 17:16
schestowitz-TROTA (will mention buster/boomwork/bullseye)May 06 17:16
schestowitz-TR*bookwormMay 06 17:16
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schestowitz-TRdraftMay 06 18:06
Techrights-secackMay 06 18:21
Techrights-secthe link to distrowatch is, as mentioned above, wrongMay 06 18:21
schestowitz-TRwhat to use instead?May 06 18:21
Techrights-secthe one from devuan above May 06 18:22
schestowitz-TRthe link is there in the post as wellMay 06 18:22
Techrights-secyes but the distrowatch one should be removed since it is wrongMay 06 18:24
schestowitz-TRI will put wikipedia there insteadMay 06 18:25
Techrights-secgreatMay 06 18:25
Techrights-secthe "based on" link ought to go to wikipedia;May 06 18:28
Techrights-secthe "impact many" ought to be the https://www.devuan.org/os/devuan-distrosMay 06 18:28
Techrights-seclinkMay 06 18:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.devuan.org | Devuan-Based Distributions | Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating SystemMay 06 18:28
Techrights-sechttp://web.archive.org/web/20021215191808/opensource.org/halloween/halloween1.phpMay 06 20:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Open Source Initiative OSI - Doc1:Halloween DocumentsMay 06 20:01
schestowitz-TR Social control media is bad for you https://www.bath.ac.uk/announcements/social-media-break-improves-mental-health-new-study/May 06 20:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bath.ac.uk | Social media break improves mental health – new studyMay 06 20:32
SomeH4x0ris IRC social control media?May 06 20:32
SomeH4x0rI have nothing to do irlMay 06 20:33
SomeH4x0ridk if I'm autistic or something, but I think my life is fucked upMay 06 20:33
schestowitz-TRbeing in ukraine at the moment is hardMay 06 20:33
SomeH4x0rit is not about UkraineMay 06 20:33
schestowitz-TRIRC predates by 15 years what media dubbed "social"May 06 20:33
SomeH4x0rthe war is not relevant for thisMay 06 20:33
schestowitz-TRyou said your parents are abusive towards youMay 06 20:34
schestowitz-TRbut that's a personal thingMay 06 20:34
SomeH4x0rthere is no proper way to raise a child, I thinkMay 06 20:35
SomeH4x0rI "live" online. No irl friends, reality being annoyance.May 06 20:35
SomeH4x0rI used to escape the reality in MMO games, though then I realized they are evil, and quit themMay 06 20:36
schestowitz-TRthey are addictiveMay 06 20:38
schestowitz-TRand they are controlled by a corporationMay 06 20:38
schestowitz-TRgovernments are tooMay 06 20:38
schestowitz-TRbut not one corporationMay 06 20:38
SomeH4x0ryes, so I quitMay 06 20:39
schestowitz-TRgood, it's not easyMay 06 20:41
schestowitz-TRall of these things designed to addict are better avoided to begin withMay 06 20:41
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