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| schestowitz-TR | gm | Jul 06 05:19 |
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| Techrights-sec | gm | Jul 06 05:19 |
| Techrights-sec | whatäs lennart poettering's new job? | Jul 06 05:19 |
| Techrights-sec | or employer? | Jul 06 05:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw speculations only | Jul 06 05:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | like consulting | Jul 06 05:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | no doubt he and his mates have a lot of control over gnu/linux | Jul 06 05:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe soon more than kernel/LF or even gnu | Jul 06 05:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | as they control many very core components, from dns to booting, even user accounts and homedir | Jul 06 05:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe USA did "operation paperclip" on him ;-p | Jul 06 05:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, on friday we'll know the company's decision | Jul 06 05:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | if the cake and cider don't get used on friday, then next tuesday | Jul 06 05:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | either way, I invested about 5 hours yesterday planning TM migration | Jul 06 05:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and this morning I put the "factory reset" on my new laptop | Jul 06 05:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | for when we take the old site read-only | Jul 06 05:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | thrilling to do this after 18+ years, software was never built to last this long | Jul 06 05:22 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Jul 06 05:22 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 05:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we get what we asked for, then we start working 1am sat, then sunday 5:30 we finish, with 8-hour break in the middle (covered by new colleague from the US) | Jul 06 05:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | then 128 hours free, sans additional cover for sick colleagues or holidays | Jul 06 05:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | (for extra pay) | Jul 06 05:25 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 05:25 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.history.com/news/what-was-operation-paperclip | Jul 06 05:25 |
| Techrights-sec | when will they give their answer about the new schedule? | Jul 06 05:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What Was Operation Paperclip? - HISTORY | Jul 06 05:25 | |
| schestowitz-TR | tentative or final decision friday afternoon | Jul 06 05:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I dare you to find a static and/or flat-file CMS (or "headless"... BS like "serverless") that has rss support | Jul 06 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | or decent rss support | Jul 06 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | the CMS status quo is bad.. few players are potent enough, the rest seems like hobbies | Jul 06 05:29 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Jul 06 05:29 |
| Techrights-sec | Probably easier to write one, but then there is the matter of UI | Jul 06 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | to me, the hard part is the rss stuff as it needs to know age of files and making a properly contructed FULL TEXT RSS feed that validates OK | Jul 06 05:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | is not so easy | Jul 06 05:30 |
| Techrights-sec | that's very easy to do in perl and not that hard in python | Jul 06 05:33 |
| Techrights-sec | with raw, static HTML if the <meta /> element is used in the <head> element | Jul 06 05:33 |
| Techrights-sec | then one can be the date of publication and that can be extracted using XPath | Jul 06 05:33 |
| Techrights-sec | combined with some file system metadata that gets all the recently modified | Jul 06 05:33 |
| Techrights-sec | files and their official publication dates | Jul 06 05:33 |
| Techrights-sec | Static HTML with templates, supplemented with a validator, and CSS might | Jul 06 05:33 |
| Techrights-sec | be the way to go if the generators seem poorly thought out and implemented | Jul 06 05:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | right, I agree | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | to me, a concerning aspect, based on my reading, many of those that do not have database still use a lot of CPU and RAM to | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | "compute" something with php or similar, e.g. adding template stuff or blocks [sic] | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you end up not really serving some .html file over and over again, there's still a loop | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me leap a step ahead and say, it seem their real "savings" are, instead of having a *gasp* | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | db let's just store every post as a file, then you can edit the file directly (DAV etc) instead of using INSERT/UPDATE | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | but much of the rest is the same, namely some script compiling all the bits | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the DB itself is a file | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | but a very large file | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they say, let's make lots and lots of files | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | kaniini wants cpu usage to go down a bit | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and mentioned movable type | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | but many ran away from it because of the licence, it's still actively developed | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I always found it inflexible and ugly | Jul 06 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | only very tasteless blogs still use it | Jul 06 05:37 |
| Techrights-sec | PHP is not a good idea here | Jul 06 05:42 |
| Techrights-sec | Now some things would have to be re-generated when new files are added and | Jul 06 05:42 |
| Techrights-sec | perhaps the safer way would be to use SSI for many things. | Jul 06 05:42 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm wondering how simplified the interactions can be with some shell or python | Jul 06 05:42 |
| Techrights-sec | scripts and templates. | Jul 06 05:42 |
| Techrights-sec | Maybe the script can ask for and validate metadata, then fire up an editor, | Jul 06 05:42 |
| Techrights-sec | validate the editing and use that as a body, then generate the new page and | Jul 06 05:43 |
| Techrights-sec | update the SSI components | Jul 06 05:43 |
| Techrights-sec | oh. I am weak at GUI | Jul 06 05:43 |
| Techrights-sec | but the above would work with multiple users | Jul 06 05:43 |
| Techrights-sec | however a disadvantage would be that I am thinking in a way that depends on | Jul 06 05:43 |
| Techrights-sec | shell access | Jul 06 05:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember we may need multiple users (e.g. marius) and some decent GUI for html code to be inserted | Jul 06 05:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and this would be done and redone many times a day | Jul 06 05:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we roll out out own and go the shell way there is a lot that can be automated and made more efficient, like having many files open at the same time | Jul 06 05:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then update as "followup" stories come | Jul 06 05:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | to me, the "hard" part is likely rss | Jul 06 05:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | as for templating, one common 90s technique was to put markers for the page and then scan all the files, inserting charges were thge markers are or at start and end | Jul 06 05:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | like we do in video galleries in techright | Jul 06 05:47 |
| Techrights-sec | RSS is "just" a matter of harvesting data and then writing an XML file | Jul 06 05:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | here is an idea | Jul 06 05:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | (bear with me) | Jul 06 05:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) in "old" TM when we add a comment ('update') it shows the node at the top of an index at the front page | Jul 06 05:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | it gets 'bumped' up | Jul 06 05:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | the idea is, indicte to people a node has an update | Jul 06 05:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | now... | Jul 06 05:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) in "new" tm we can have a directory full of html files | Jul 06 05:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | c) sort all files by age (might now scale well, but can be split into years as subdir | Jul 06 05:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | d) then present 20 files based on last modified, generate rss feeds and front page from these | Jul 06 05:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | pros: easy to manage, rsync for backups, with occasional full snapshots | Jul 06 05:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | can be efficent if you regenerate the front page and rss every 3 mins, scanning all the files, adding something from template like <head> | Jul 06 05:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | then write an index based on what's to follow | Jul 06 05:52 |
| Techrights-sec | find -newerMT ... | Jul 06 05:53 |
| Techrights-sec | yes b, c, and d are easy; a question is about how to 'preview' via the web while | Jul 06 05:53 |
| Techrights-sec | editing via the shell in a reliable and non-public mannner; I guess there | Jul 06 05:53 |
| Techrights-sec | are several ways to do that too | Jul 06 05:53 |
| Techrights-sec | No need to scan everything repeatedly | Jul 06 05:53 |
| Techrights-sec | with a new OS the inotify system can be used and incron used to fire up the | Jul 06 05:53 |
| Techrights-sec | index and other processing tools wheneve a new file is added to the 'published' | Jul 06 05:53 |
| Techrights-sec | directory | Jul 06 05:53 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/ | Jul 06 06:02 |
| Techrights-sec | works well for small, infrequent additions or deletions | Jul 06 06:02 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/incron-command-in-linux-with-examples/ | Jul 06 06:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/ ) | Jul 06 06:02 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.geeksforgeeks.org | Incron command in Linux with Examples - GeeksforGeeks | Jul 06 06:02 | |
| schestowitz-TR | just been upstairs, thought how to do the individual page files such that they contain some html in them other than the "core" bits | Jul 06 06:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | such that pages can be served | Jul 06 06:06 |
| Techrights-sec | creating the pages with a script is no problem but going back and editing | Jul 06 06:11 |
| Techrights-sec | the pages would not be possible with the same script and would mean | Jul 06 06:11 |
| Techrights-sec | editing raw HTML then; however it is amost unheard of to edit a page on TR or TM | Jul 06 06:11 |
| Techrights-sec | SSI can allow the standardized bits (logos, menus, footers, etc) to be kept in | Jul 06 06:11 |
| Techrights-sec | external files and thus in a single location | Jul 06 06:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, here is a trick | Jul 06 06:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | Each file has a template, then some markers for start and end of "core" stuff | Jul 06 06:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | the script that makes front page and rss feed uses those markers to only scan the "content" ("core") | Jul 06 06:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, that can be <body>, but maybe better <div> assuming that you want some page bits like menu | Jul 06 06:12 |
| Techrights-sec | those markers are meta elements: https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_meta.asp | Jul 06 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | those can be queried by a script and then an editor fired up for the article | Jul 06 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | text; then once the article is edited, the pieces combined into a single HTML | Jul 06 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | page and then the RSS and indexing scripts triggered | Jul 06 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | the actual HTML <body> element would have a heck of a lot more from the template | Jul 06 06:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.w3schools.com | HTML meta tag | Jul 06 06:17 | |
| Techrights-sec | there would be the logo, menus, and footers; a specific <div> element can be | Jul 06 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | singled out at replaced with the text produced by the above mentioned editor | Jul 06 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | metadata: date, title, slug, author, category | Jul 06 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | yes; and author can be from the login / user environment variable | Jul 06 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | ok not categories but maybe some descriptive keywords in an uncontrolled | Jul 06 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | vocabulary | Jul 06 06:17 |
| Techrights-sec | yes data can be automatically filled in at the time of creation | Jul 06 06:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | thge slug is the file name | Jul 06 06:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | author does not matter | Jul 06 06:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | categories might also be extra overhead for little practical gain | Jul 06 06:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | the date can be derived from file last modified or created | Jul 06 06:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | we can use the camelcase code to improve presentation of links, assuming P for Perl in LAMP | Jul 06 06:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's a side thing | Jul 06 06:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | given the simplicity of the site I think this covers everything | Jul 06 06:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | the web in 2004 involved many people leaving comments and comment spam was only starting to become a problem | Jul 06 06:25 |
| Techrights-sec | comments would be a whole new can of worms and would not only require a full | Jul 06 06:26 |
| Techrights-sec | web-based "framework" with authentication / login and such but also time | Jul 06 06:26 |
| Techrights-sec | curating the comments and culling spam post haste. Best to stick with the | Jul 06 06:26 |
| Techrights-sec | current policy of encouraging use of the IRC channels instead. | Jul 06 06:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | SN will be gone one day, maybe even soon (<5 years) | Jul 06 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | not under out control | Jul 06 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | *our | Jul 06 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | rolling out our own will give more flexibility and removal of 'feature churn' | Jul 06 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | social control media or webapps are not a TM thing | Jul 06 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that's actually a strength | Jul 06 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | our core crowd is geeks, not phone slingers like zemlin | Jul 06 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | just seen your remark on gulag noise | Jul 06 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I agree, but the explanation is simple | Jul 06 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | you see what they are up to in the "front page" | Jul 06 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | or the very poor curation os sources | Jul 06 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I opted out of this shit | Jul 06 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I can focus on signal | Jul 06 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | they see wide and fast | Jul 06 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the processing they then do it subpar to say the least | Jul 06 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | the goals are financial, the users are a secondary concern | Jul 06 06:35 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I reckon the only reason you sent some MSN links this past week was gulag noise | Jul 06 06:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3 mins ago tuxmachines db had warnings again | Jul 06 07:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | repairing | Jul 06 07:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | might be down a few mins | Jul 06 07:02 |
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| *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | Jul 06 08:05 | |
| *Now talking on #boycottnovell | Jul 06 08:06 | |
| Techrights-sec | still wondering what the cause is, eventually it will break if it continues | Jul 06 08:51 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I assume it'll be a lot more stable after >I restore from the backup | Jul 06 08:52 |
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| Techrights-sec | ok | Jul 06 08:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | irc post for today | Jul 06 09:29 |
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| schestowitz-TR | ^ a | Jul 06 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) back from exercise | Jul 06 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | c) maybe nennart fogures red hat was his transmeta and now it's time for Lennux Foundation | Jul 06 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | d) if we make a CMS for TM, as per above specs, we can later use the same for TR, maybe schestowitz.com too | Jul 06 10:34 |
| Techrights-sec | c) :/ probably truye | Jul 06 10:51 |
| Techrights-sec | d) specs are something to consider in detail then | Jul 06 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | to keep number of files lower it can help to have one directory per year, but this would limit flexibility | Jul 06 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | tuxmachines is about 15k files per year | Jul 06 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | later we can add witty functionality for extra speed and better usability, e.g. scan for related titles and present "related" | Jul 06 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | nodes | Jul 06 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | then "attach" to the current new file before pressing save | Jul 06 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | TR=soon 34k posts | Jul 06 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | schestoweitz.com only about 2.5k | Jul 06 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | many old CMS assumed people used large monitors | Jul 06 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence many panes and stuff | Jul 06 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | they replace one kind of bloat with another kind | Jul 06 10:56 |
| Techrights-sec | how should graphics be uploaded / managed, and other formats beyond HTML ? | Jul 06 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | the old traditional way | Jul 06 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | upload to a directory, then link to that from html | Jul 06 11:28 |
| Techrights-sec | please clarify? | Jul 06 11:29 |
| Techrights-sec | fwiw sqlite is not multi-user so in theory for concurrent editing postgresql | Jul 06 11:29 |
| Techrights-sec | or mariadb would be needed | Jul 06 11:29 |
| Techrights-sec | uploading to a directory and then linking manually from the HTML introduces | Jul 06 11:29 |
| Techrights-sec | a lot of steps each with potential for mistakes | Jul 06 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | concurrent editing better done with git, which we can do | Jul 06 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but for tuxmachines version conttrol seems over the top for mere "nodes" | Jul 06 11:39 |
| Techrights-sec | that's an idea: build the site in Git and publish via pull | Jul 06 11:43 |
| Techrights-sec | however consistency and standardization is not possible with manual action | Jul 06 11:43 |
| Techrights-sec | alone, there have to be a lot of helper scripts to create chokepoints at | Jul 06 11:43 |
| Techrights-sec | which incorrect markup (not valid or nonconforming to the right style) are | Jul 06 11:43 |
| Techrights-sec | blocked from publishing | Jul 06 11:43 |
| Techrights-sec | the work flow has to end up being as simple as filling in a form IMHO | Jul 06 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> EU Parliament ☛ https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-statement-eu-parliaments-formal-approval-digital-services-act-and-digital-markets EFF still ignores EPO corruption entirely, says "rein in the power of Facebook, Google, Apple, and Amazon" and leaves out MIRCOSOFT (why again?) | Jul 06 11:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | EFF Statement on EU Parliament’s Adoption of Digital Services Act and Digital Markets Act | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jul 06 11:46 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Nowadays it's easy to feel like EFF became a bit of a front group for Microsoft. It even gives AWARDS to Microsoft employees and shills Microsoft proxies like DDG. Then it defames RMS. What the actual funk? | Jul 06 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was about to say, | Jul 06 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | knowing Marius is the only VALUABLE contributor we have, | Jul 06 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | we can set up user accounts on the server | Jul 06 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | with ssh keys | Jul 06 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | then make a script that asks you to enter the html bits | Jul 06 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | then opens it for preview locally in your browser | Jul 06 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | then copies to the server | Jul 06 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | editing existing notes, e.g. to add more links, would be another wordflow, maybe DAV-like | Jul 06 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's thinking several steps ahead already | Jul 06 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | (this kind of work will give us a lot of material to publish... articles, videos... I plan to record soon | Jul 06 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | about youtube over gemini... yes, it's a thing now) | Jul 06 11:47 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | further thought | Jul 06 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne does android leftovers | Jul 06 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | saves as android.html | Jul 06 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | runs script | Jul 06 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | script adds date | Jul 06 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | 06-07-2022-android.html | Jul 06 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | opens it in browser | Jul 06 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | if OK, add footer, header etc. from template and upload | Jul 06 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne gets to keep local copies, so there are "backups"m too | Jul 06 11:58 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 11:58 |
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| schestowitz-TR | bad cat | Jul 06 12:32 |
| Techrights-sec | more or less | Jul 06 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Jul 06 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Jul 06 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | The Gemini protocol still (AFAIK) has a bug which prevents handling of very | Jul 06 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | large files and therefore Video over Gemini is /not/ possible. | Jul 06 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | s/possible/feasible/ | Jul 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | in this case, it worked OK | Jul 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | 78mb, 10 min, hd | Jul 06 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | the protocol cannot handle large files, it might work /sometimes/ but is | Jul 06 12:51 |
| Techrights-sec | neither reliable nor accurate in that regard; anything other than small files | Jul 06 12:51 |
| Techrights-sec | is very strongly inadvisable | Jul 06 12:51 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, something will download but it will not necessarily be either complete or | Jul 06 12:51 |
| Techrights-sec | accurate | Jul 06 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | mind if I add this as footnote? | Jul 06 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Jul 06 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec | best to write an article which avoids using large files though | Jul 06 12:53 |
| Techrights-sec | schools are still paying the price for using m$ products in that they are | Jul 06 12:56 |
| Techrights-sec | hit multiple times by ransomware and even then still don't learn their lesson | Jul 06 12:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | they should pay Microsoft to issue an analytical report like it did for Ukraine | Jul 06 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | money well spent ^_^ | Jul 06 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | or have a "Ransomware task force" | Jul 06 12:58 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Jul 06 12:58 |
| Techrights-sec | or invite them to Washington DC to meet with more politicians :/ | Jul 06 12:58 |
| Techrights-sec | ^sarcasm | Jul 06 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | old company story in a nutshell | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | we once had a "boss" called john | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was not a techie | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | he worked behind our backs to poach our clients into his own thing | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | since I joined he was at least the second person to do this and get caught | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | after we sacked him he wrote in twitter a tweet like | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | "some things are better left to Microsoft'; | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | when justifying using some Microsoft things | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | prior to that, for his meetings he insisted on using skype | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course workers were upset | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that's the story in a nutshell | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can find better employees than him in ther street, holding a sign "will coe html for food" | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | they would be more reliable | Jul 06 13:01 |
| Techrights-sec | microsofters are trying to get ukraine to allow m$ to hold their data hostage | Jul 06 13:05 |
| Techrights-sec | in their "cloud" | Jul 06 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we must call them out on it | Jul 06 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we have refs and a way to respond well | Jul 06 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I often put such stories in Security leftovers in TM as well | Jul 06 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's just the most we can do tbh | Jul 06 13:06 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | Jul 06 13:06 |
| Techrights-sec | and lobbyists including brad smith are in and out of high politicians' offices | Jul 06 13:06 |
| Techrights-sec | like there were in a cheap motel | Jul 06 13:06 |
| Techrights-sec | instead of being thrashed and locked up, he and his assistants are all over DC | Jul 06 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw his photos in that new article | Jul 06 13:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is in TM too | Jul 06 13:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | to help amplify those who did the legwork to explain what Microsoft is up to | Jul 06 13:08 |
| Techrights-sec | they have 10s of thousands of minions aroud the world all working overtime | Jul 06 13:11 |
| Techrights-sec | to weaken the cyberdefense in their respective countries | Jul 06 13:11 |
| Techrights-sec | s/weaken/weaken and undermine/ | Jul 06 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | this number will decrease proportional to their lessened profits or losses | Jul 06 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we need to keep hacking away at their corporse of a company | Jul 06 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a lot bigger than novell | Jul 06 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | so much hacking will be needed | Jul 06 13:12 |
| Techrights-sec | they would have gone away long ago if not for the bailouts | Jul 06 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, beat me to it | Jul 06 13:13 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 13:25 |
| Techrights-sec | how comforatble are rianne and marius with nano or other text-based editor? | Jul 06 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne uses nano at work | Jul 06 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | marius is a unix/linuix geek, so... | Jul 06 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we mostly paste into browser/terminal from a text editor like kate anyway | Jul 06 13:26 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Jul 06 13:27 |
| Techrights-sec | thanks | Jul 06 13:27 |
| Techrights-sec | which static site generator(s), if any, made the shortlist? | Jul 06 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | htmly | Jul 06 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but for its rss support | Jul 06 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | however the feeds seem abbreviated | Jul 06 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need full text rss feeds to reat users with more than "click here" BS (to drive up useless "hits") | Jul 06 13:28 |
| Techrights-sec | it looks like it might be extensible or at least modifiable | Jul 06 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | see their dependencies | Jul 06 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | many of the ones I looked at are node or laravel or some other framework and lots of github everywhere | Jul 06 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | my mental framework goes like, will this be properly supported in 10 years? | Jul 06 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | many GUI stuff I did in the past 20+ years can barely even run | Jul 06 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | gtk1, cogl, qt | Jul 06 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's OK if you want to write and rewrite things | Jul 06 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for python and php | Jul 06 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | xul, swf, javafx.. | Jul 06 13:38 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | software need to slow the f* down | Jul 06 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | focus or devote resources to keeping existing things | Jul 06 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | not feature churn | Jul 06 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I use the Microsoft Office analogy a lot | Jul 06 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday in IRC I last did this | Jul 06 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | mom and pop writing a letter don't need a 500MB program | Jul 06 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | (or a new PC fore that matter) | Jul 06 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I get weather forecats from two independent source, one in the CLI another in Gemini, then compare | Jul 06 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | tomorrow might be good for bike ride | Jul 06 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | that takes like 1mb of ram | Jul 06 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | BillBC Weather is 200-300MB for the browser alone, before getting to any pages | Jul 06 13:41 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 13:41 |
| Techrights-sec | htmly seems rather primitive and, worse, awkward; however, I'm not sure | Jul 06 13:43 |
| Techrights-sec | how much better we could do ourselves here | Jul 06 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I said today, or maybe yestyerday, CMS space is either hobby or bloat | Jul 06 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | consolidation around several bloatware | Jul 06 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | with 90% stuff TM does NOT need | Jul 06 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | not for routine things | Jul 06 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | the other stuff I found I'd not trust to scale well to 10k...50k nodes | Jul 06 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | wordpress 1.2 still could not deal with "too many" posts in the same catagory | Jul 06 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | therea was no pagination | Jul 06 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | you had to add plugins for pagination | Jul 06 13:45 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | billbc: cranks belittle covid-19 | Jul 06 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's OK when we do the same | Jul 06 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | because we're the bill fucking c(unt) | Jul 06 14:07 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | this sort of doublestandardism is abundant | Jul 06 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | like icbm using the word "master" all the time | Jul 06 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to call them out on it | Jul 06 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Spamnil has just bought himself another round of clickfraud in YouTube. Linux Foundation passes money to a fraud. http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/lf-defrauding-clients/ | Jul 06 14:33 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | New Lows: Linux Foundation Defrauding Clients | Techrights | Jul 06 14:33 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 14:37 |
| Techrights-sec | I don't ever click on his links, not that I'd run across them anyway | Jul 06 14:37 |
| Techrights-sec | LF now exists to degrade the brand | Jul 06 14:37 |
| Techrights-sec | and run it into the ground | Jul 06 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF is scamming companies | Jul 06 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. startups | Jul 06 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | they deserve to know | Jul 06 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | rathger, I would say, | Jul 06 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it sells the brand to those looking to destroy Linux itself | Jul 06 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | aka "controlled opposition | Jul 06 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's more money in doing that than in promoting free-as-in-freedom FAIF s/w | Jul 06 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | yes that's probably a more clear way to put it | Jul 06 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | over time more and more people/sites/orgs see it the same way | Jul 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is what we want | Jul 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | epo is quitly tense at the moment, they cannot hire examiners | Jul 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF has not hired high-calibre people in recent years | Jul 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | just many incognitos and posers | Jul 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | reminds me of Novell and now Red Hat | Jul 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | one way to hurt an org is to make it unable to attract capable workers | Jul 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | as they research before accepting a job offer | Jul 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | plus, many capable people leave, and projects are in dire straits | Jul 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | shithub has been relativbely quiet and now sfc surprisingly "moves for the kill | Jul 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey is a lot more pessimistic than I am | Jul 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | orgs are different, the blueprints and methods are largely the same | Jul 06 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | the largeer the org (or better connected), the more blows it takes | Jul 06 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | you hardly hear of "black duck" anymore | Jul 06 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | snyk is the new "black duck" | Jul 06 14:50 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 14:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | a)m their tactics is to portray the critics as insane or hatefyl | Jul 06 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) we need patients, happiness, health (anger harms morale and corrodes the mind) | Jul 06 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | *patience | Jul 06 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | c) if you don't censor, they call you what they call those whom you don't censor. If you censor, they call you tyrant etc. | Jul 06 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait till MS finds out and openly acknowledges android uses Linux | Jul 06 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | (to zemlin's credit, he does mention this a lot) | Jul 06 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he uses iphone!1LOL | Jul 06 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | /s/MS/MSM | Jul 06 14:56 |
| Techrights-sec | yep they attack regardless | Jul 06 14:56 |
| Techrights-sec | :/ zemlin is a turd | Jul 06 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was going to say poophead, but you beat me to it | Jul 06 14:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | no matter the words, his actiosns speak volumes | Jul 06 14:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | like spamnil on his mac, with a banner that says "LINUX" behind him in videos | Jul 06 14:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | where he speaks to proprietary shits and promotes crap | Jul 06 14:57 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/finland-share-summer-2022/ | Jul 06 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Finland Turns 18 | Techrights | Jul 06 14:58 | |
| Techrights-sec | :) | Jul 06 14:59 |
| Techrights-sec | still low but much improved | Jul 06 14:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | the Tipping Point (TM) | Jul 06 14:59 |
| Techrights-sec | strange that the FreeBSD wankers have only 0%, but that is on the desktop only | Jul 06 15:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | they will brag about netflix | Jul 06 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is going down | Jul 06 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, ms will never recover on OS share | Jul 06 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | nor emerge again in mobile | Jul 06 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | with winCE (IIRC), about 20 years ago, they waged a war agaibT Palm OS and got some share of what was then still | Jul 06 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | a small but growing market | Jul 06 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | with blackberry also to join | Jul 06 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | the mobile "widows" devices were too heavy | Jul 06 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | too much reuse of paste code | Jul 06 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | *pasta | Jul 06 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | iPaq was one example | Jul 06 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | when i was not yet an apple thing | Jul 06 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | ipod was born around this time | Jul 06 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | The EpsteinStarterKit | Jul 06 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | with a t at the end, not a d | Jul 06 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | we don'tm have lobbyists and advertisers (LF is Microsoft, we are the advertisers... as volunteers), so the media | Jul 06 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | will almost make us seem smaller and worse than we actually ar | Jul 06 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | elikewise, in patent debates they try to make 90% of the population seem insane or "pirate | Jul 06 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | the copyright cartel does the same | Jul 06 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | they play a game of moralitry from their peanut gallaeryk, at the gallery's expenses | Jul 06 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | or the theatre's expoense rather | Jul 06 15:07 |
| Techrights-sec | yes especially in recent years since M$ has become a lobbying / political | Jul 06 15:08 |
| Techrights-sec | entity back 15 years ago or so | Jul 06 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | 15 years ago they lacked an incentive to improve their "products" | Jul 06 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they signed a novell patent deal and attacked everyone with protectionism (patrents) | Jul 06 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and settled lawsuits to reduce crimes' visibility | Jul 06 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Gardiner Bryant became de facto Valve marketing rep - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uvyLngqwg0E ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Jul 06 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Set up DoomRPG on the Steam Deck (in under 5 minutes) - Invidious | Jul 06 15:19 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | see draft | Jul 06 15:24 |
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| Techrights-sec | checking | Jul 06 16:44 |
| Techrights-sec | nicknames always need to be preceded or acompanied by the real name, for | Jul 06 16:44 |
| Techrights-sec | several reasons including associating the article with search results for | Jul 06 16:44 |
| Techrights-sec | their name | Jul 06 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | [16:04] <Ariadne> schestowitz[TR]: will try to get it done tonight, yesterday i was not running on much sleep because of my stupid neighbors launching fireworks at 4:30am | Jul 06 17:24 |
| Techrights-sec | excellent | Jul 06 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/06/north-korean-state-sponsored-cyber-actors-use-maui-ransomware see http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ | Jul 06 17:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | North Korean State-Sponsored Cyber Actors Use Maui Ransomware to Target the Healthcare and Public Health Sector | CISA | Jul 06 17:38 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights | Jul 06 17:38 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "It seems to me that I have been force-fed Google's services by almost everyone in my life: friends, family, but most notably school. My school's tech department *really* loves Google and uses it for blaming-everything-on-linux.gif blaming-everything-on-linux.webm - Google Classroom for homework assignments, Gmail for all communications" gemini://tilde.cafe/~winter/gemlog/2022-07-06_forced_google.gmi | Jul 06 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | Andy wrote about this too | Jul 06 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | another issue we'll have to tackle in years to come | Jul 06 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least raise awareness | Jul 06 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | for me, getting rid of gulag entirely means people cannot use the typical counteratgument | Jul 06 17:49 |
| psydroid2 | Microsoft brigade? | Jul 06 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydroid2: context|? | Jul 06 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydroid2: Oh, I see | Jul 06 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe not Microsoft | Jul 06 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyone who uses Gulag and looks for excuses not to desist | Jul 06 17:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then attacks those who successfully refrain | Jul 06 17:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's why many people gleefully joined the anti-RMS mob | Jul 06 17:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> SJVN... business trip... with ChromeOS??? https://www.zdnet.com/article/a-new-chromebook-saved-my-bacon-when-my-old-one-died-in-mid-business-trip/#ftag=RSSbaffb68 | Jul 06 18:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-A new Chromebook saved my bacon when my old one died mid-business trip | ZDNet | Jul 06 18:06 | |
| schestowitz-TR | UNIX beard -> GNU/Linux beard -> Linux bird -> Gulag used | Jul 06 18:07 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.gov.uk/cma-cases/microsoft-slash-activision-blizzard-merger-inquiry | Jul 06 18:13 |
| Techrights-sec | the deadline for you, Rianne, Andy, etc to comment is 20 July | Jul 06 18:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft / Activision Blizzard merger inquiry - GOV.UK | Jul 06 18:13 | |
| psydroid2 | -> got his brain eaten by a praying mantiss and turned into a zombird | Jul 06 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could put in a letter but without money *hush hush* inside the envelope | Jul 06 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | criminals usually get their way here | Jul 06 18:13 |
| Techrights-sec | it'd still be worth turning in a formal comment | Jul 06 18:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe this weekend, plus copy in TR | Jul 06 18:14 |
| Techrights-sec | excellent! | Jul 06 18:18 |
| Techrights-sec | can you ask others there in the UK, too? | Jul 06 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe, but not now as I race against the clock to make time in case we get a fresh new machine today and I can configure the stack, dns etc. | Jul 06 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and start prototyping ;-) | Jul 06 18:19 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydroid2: are you interested in getting involved? | Jul 06 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | we are likely making a simple CMS | Jul 06 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if it's good, it'll be used in Techrights too | Jul 06 18:37 |
| psydroid2 | schestowitz-TR, I don't know anything about web technologies, so I don't think I would be of any help | Jul 06 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | LibreOffice: we have "over 200 million users around the globe" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/07/06/join-the-libreoffice-team-as-a-web-technology-engineer-m-f-d-10-20h-per-week-remote/ | Jul 06 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.documentfoundation.org | Join the LibreOffice Team as a Web Technology Engineer (m/f/d), 10-20h per week, remote - The Document Foundation Blog | Jul 06 19:07 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> NSA Bruce https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/nist-announces-first-four-quantum-resistant-cryptographic-algorithms.html | Jul 06 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-NIST Announces First Four Quantum-Resistant Cryptographic Algorithms - Schneier on Security | Jul 06 19:20 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | he loves squids | Jul 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | know for... | Jul 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | eyesight (all seeing) | Jul 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | many tentacles | Jul 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | strong "teeth" | Jul 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | going under | Jul 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | shrewdness and shape-shifting | Jul 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was about to add colour shifting too | Jul 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on videos I saw | Jul 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some typos above | Jul 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I still don't know the history well know to understand why he does that friday squid theme | Jul 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | I used to think because of squid the s/w | Jul 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | NSA uses the squid for some symbolism | Jul 06 19:42 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 06 19:42 |
| Techrights-sec | color shifting | Jul 06 19:42 |
| Techrights-sec | no idea | Jul 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | holy s* | Jul 06 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | covid numbers preview | Jul 06 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | writing... | Jul 06 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | itwire = shit site, with a needle in its haystack, almost always from one person, who himself does a lot of fake "reporting" | Jul 06 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | probably a condition for him staying | Jul 06 19:49 |
| Techrights-sec | https://itwire.com/it-people-news/people-moves/logicalis-engages-antoniou-as-microsoft-engagement-manager.html | Jul 06 19:49 |
| Techrights-sec | yes it is. however the troubling news is that the one company is paying | Jul 06 19:49 |
| Techrights-sec | the salary of a microsofter working for microsoft but inside the company | Jul 06 19:49 |
| Techrights-sec | the one company is basically paying for an M$ handler | Jul 06 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Logicalis engages Antoniou as Microsoft engagement manager | Jul 06 19:49 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't know anything about this company | Jul 06 19:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I doubt this is newsworthy | Jul 06 19:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | propos, see what I just published re phoronix | Jul 06 19:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | hope it's not TOO harsh | Jul 06 19:50 |
| Techrights-sec | the specific company is not important the problem is that M$ has been trying | Jul 06 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec | to do that for years and are increasing their aggressive and burdenship | Jul 06 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec | relationship to other companies | Jul 06 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec | it's similar to when they started naming sales teams like they were official | Jul 06 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec | public sector government jobs | Jul 06 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec | meh if there was not sufficient disclaimer there at phoronix ... | Jul 06 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec | disclaimer / disclosure of conflict of interest ... | Jul 06 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | COVID-19: We're Back to Wintertime Crisis Levels (and It's Only July) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/06/wintertime-crisis-levels-in-summer/ | Jul 06 20:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19: We’re Back to Wintertime Crisis Levels (and It’s Only July) | Jul 06 20:07 | |
| schestowitz-TR | 0/ | Jul 06 20:08 |
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