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schestowitz$ cp xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl Dec 06 07:07
schestowitz-TRSUCCESSDec 06 07:07
schestowitz-TRgnDec 06 07:07
Techrights-sec069e3af5e27be6fc2289ccf481b92d335aefa310Dec 06 07:07
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.eu/mike34698631/status/1467734707425067013#mDec 06 07:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Mike-Gee (@mike34698631): "info on anything you want to research on gates http://techrights.org/billwatch-resurrected/" | nitterDec 06 07:19
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schestowitznotes to self (stages)Dec 06 08:28
schestowitzadd linksDec 06 08:28
schestowitzadd uploads -> pi onlyDec 06 08:28
schestowitzadd cron hardlinkDec 06 08:28
schestowitzadd to index at geminiDec 06 08:28
schestowitzchange link in irc blog post?Dec 06 08:28
schestowitzchange link in irc botx4 channels?Dec 06 08:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AnthonieLouise/status/1467805776257458178Dec 06 11:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AnthonieLouise: πŸ‘€πŸ”₯ https://t.co/PBKYmcCAKKDec 06 11:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #GhislaineMaxwell trial: Key moments from the first week - BBC News βš“ https://t.co/6mWxvQjzys δ·‰ #billbc never menti… https://t.co/VXSHQ8XcWuDec 06 11:15
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schestowitzcomparing gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tester.gmi to gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tester.txt in amfora and lagrange, it seems clear that page is rendered based on the file extension, either before agate instructs so or because the clients/browsers detect it soDec 06 12:23
schestowitz-TRamfora has a weird timeout behaviour; if the page is long and it does not complete transmission in about 5 seconds, then it suggests downloading. I think that the issue isn't the server being too slow (it is slower now) but the assumptions made by the client.Dec 06 12:27
Techrights-secThat sounds about right.  I see that behavior.  I suppose a bug report is inDec 06 12:28
Techrights-secorder.Dec 06 12:28
schestowitz-TRI use v 1.7.2Dec 06 12:28
Techrights-secv1.8.0-82 hereDec 06 12:29
schestowitz-TRso newer versions still have this behaviourDec 06 12:30
schestowitz-TRI suppose they only receive bugs from people with a Microsoft accountDec 06 12:30
schestowitz-TRI'm told GitHub would get integrated with AzureDec 06 12:30
schestowitz-TRso a power play against FOSS and Google/AWS at the same timeDec 06 12:30
schestowitz-TRbtw, yesterday things generally went smoothly, even got lots of exercise done, which helps compensate for Saturday. Seeing the latest from Zemlin I know we've played a major role.Dec 06 12:31
schestowitz-TRotoh, zemlinWasRight ... social control media is a passing fad, a liability, so he stopped in 2019. going ahead and deleting everything shows the 'RMS factor... bkuhn also went ahead and deleted all his dents one by one years agoDec 06 12:33
Techrights-secBut didn't he just hire another microsofter?Dec 06 12:34
Techrights-sechopefully it leads to a major trend in the general population to deleteDec 06 12:34
Techrights-sectheir social control media accountsDec 06 12:34
schestowitz-TRhttps://www.theregister.com/2021/12/06/linkedin_hindi/Dec 06 12:35
-altlink_387/#boycottnovell-πŸ“£ Cloudflare: theregister.com | πŸ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/06/linkedin_hindi/Dec 06 12:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | LinkedIn adds Hindi service to target more Indian users β€’ The RegisterDec 06 12:35
schestowitzcomparing gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tester.gmi to gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tester.txt in amfora and lagrange, it seems clear that page is rendered based on the file extension, either before agate instructs so or because the clients/browsers detect it soDec 06 12:37
schestowitzWaiting on https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460503801 "The IRS has provided extracted financial data for this filing, but has not yet released the source documents.Dec 06 12:37
-altlink_387/#boycottnovell-πŸ“£ Cloudflare: propublica.org | πŸ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460503801Dec 06 12:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-projects.propublica.org | The Linux Foundation - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublicaDec 06 12:37
schestowitz"Dec 06 12:37
Techrights-secHindi is one of the larger languages in India.  They must be expanding officesDec 06 12:38
Techrights-secor other activities there in agressio against the country.Dec 06 12:38
schestowitzThat is their MODI operandiDec 06 12:38
psydruidHindi is also one of my native/heritage languagesDec 06 12:39
psydruidyes, they target Indians a lot for promoting their inferior software and servicesDec 06 12:40
Techrights-secLast filing listed there is 2019, the 2020 is not yet shown.  How long canDec 06 12:40
Techrights-secit retain tax-exempt status with its current behaviors, activities, and hirings?Dec 06 12:40
Techrights-secExecutive compensation  $5,523,526      Dec 06 12:40
Techrights-secLinus should take his trademarks and walk.Dec 06 12:40
psydruidand those are often gullible and receptive for financial reasonsDec 06 12:40
schestowitzI can imagineDec 06 12:40
schestowitzbut in the UK it's often the sameDec 06 12:41
schestowitzmaybe they aim differently demographicallyDec 06 12:41
psydruidI see it a lot on Quora, even though that shouldn't be a canonical reference or anythingDec 06 12:42
Techrights-secackDec 06 12:46
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Techrights-seclol just chedked spannil's gulagtube channelDec 06 19:29
Techrights-secit's entertaining to me as it keeps getting worseDec 06 19:29
Techrights-secaDec 06 19:29
Techrights-seca train wreckDec 06 19:29
Techrights-secyou see people wasting their timeDec 06 19:29
Techrights-secand after 2 weeks they might get 10 viewersDec 06 19:29
Techrights-secnever more than 100Dec 06 19:29
Techrights-secI guess LF recommends this to themDec 06 19:29
Techrights-sec:/ and the LF feeds himDec 06 19:29
schestowitz-TRI still hold him partly acountable for killing linux.comDec 06 19:35
schestowitz-TRsheela zemlin knows himDec 06 19:35
schestowitz-TRalso a poser and career climberDec 06 19:35
schestowitz-TRhe refers toi himself as "exceptionally well-connected" "filmmakser"Dec 06 19:35
schestowitz-TRwhile bottom-feeding Mirosofot and worseDec 06 19:36
Techrights-secyeah I noticed he was a climber the first time I read a little of his writing,Dec 06 19:36
Techrights-secback in the Muktware days when he was still partially ok.Dec 06 19:36
Techrights-secThe Zemlins and all the other microsofters need to leave the LF.Dec 06 19:36
Techrights-secThere also needs to be a hardcore "dogfooding" requirement for the boardDec 06 19:36
Techrights-secand, especially, the executives.Dec 06 19:36
Techrights-sec                Dec 06 19:36
Techrights-sechttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DogfoodingDec 06 19:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Eating your own dog food - WikipediaDec 06 19:37
schestowitz-TRspamnil uses a mac and brags about how much that costDec 06 19:38
schestowitz-TRprobably sponsored by Machead zemlinDec 06 19:38
Techrights-secConversely, DT and others brag about using only FOSS operating systems andDec 06 19:50
Techrights-secFOSS tools on those systems.  You can do video editing on GNU/LinuxDec 06 19:50
Techrights-secjust as well as on a Mac.Dec 06 19:50
Techrights-sechttps://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-part-1-software:dDec 06 19:50
Techrights-sechttps://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-part-2-kdenlive:bDec 06 19:50
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Techrights-sechttps://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-tips-and-tricks:cDec 06 19:50
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Video Editing with Linux Part 1: Software ChoicesDec 06 19:50
Techrights-sechttps://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-how-to-get-the:aDec 06 19:50
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Video Editing with Linux Part 2: Kdenlive Video Editor ReviewedDec 06 19:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Video Editing with Linux: Tips and Tricks to Manage Kdenlive’s Settings, Files and More.Dec 06 19:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Video Editing with Linux: How to Get the Most Out of KdenliveDec 06 19:50
Techrights-sechttps://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-the-most:6Dec 06 19:50
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Video Editing with Linux: The Most Important Part of a VideoDec 06 19:50
Techrights-sechttps://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-5-basic:6Dec 06 19:50
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Video Editing with Linux: 5 Basic Techniques You Should KnowDec 06 19:50
Techrights-sechttps://odysee.com/@purism:8/adding-visual-interest-with-effects-and:8Dec 06 19:50
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Techrights-secagain, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_foodDec 06 19:50
Techrights-secIt'd be like Tim Cook using M$ Windows.  Oh wait he apparently doesDec 06 19:51
Techrights-sechttps://www.wired.com/story/how-email-open-tracking-quietly-took-over-the-web/Dec 06 19:51
Techrights-secThere was a time when OS X was getting somewhat more open, at least partsDec 06 19:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Adding Visual Interest with Effects and CompositionsDec 06 19:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Eating your own dog food - WikipediaDec 06 19:51
Techrights-secof it were.  But that ended with Snow Leopard and went very rapidly downhillDec 06 19:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.wired.com | You Give Up a Lot of Privacy Just Opening Emails. Here's How to Stop It | WIREDDec 06 19:51
Techrights-secafter that.  There are a bunch of compatibility and security bugs they  Dec 06 19:51
Techrights-sechave not gotten around to fixing and the neglected areas show their   Dec 06 19:51
Techrights-secagenda.Dec 06 19:51
schestowitz-TRYou beat me to it re Tim Crook and Windows, I was going to correct what you saidDec 06 19:51
Techrights-secThe audience that spamnil might appeal to is interested only in moneyDec 06 19:51
Techrights-secand that is their only metric for /anything/ in life.Dec 06 19:51
Techrights-secand for those types the greater the monetary expense, the higher they prize it;Dec 06 19:53
Techrights-secso they worship inefficiencyDec 06 19:53
schestowitz-TRyo dawg, I hear you use Windiws, so I welcome you to Linux Foundation Dec 06 19:56
schestowitz-TRI posted Daily Links, hence, slow to reply, will clean remaining RSS feeds now, leaving all patent "news" until weekends as it pains my eyes to see some much drivel and spam there.. there used to be ACTUAL reporting in that domainDec 06 19:57
Techrights-sec:/ probably trueDec 06 19:58
Techrights-secnews has slowed down /again/ in general.  there is almost nothing left soonDec 06 19:58
Techrights-secmost material now seems to come from blogsDec 06 19:58
schestowitz-TRthey do not make up for what was lost and still, in searches, the webspam dominates. things like spamnil and press release, clogging up the spamfarm www becameDec 06 19:59
schestowitz-TRwhat pains my eyes and mind even more than spam is the misinformation, deliverable lies (disinformation), which replace reportingDec 06 20:02
Techrights-secyes.  the one maneuver that is puzzling is the proliferation of far rightDec 06 20:04
Techrights-secfake local news sites picking FOSS topics and especially GNU/Linux topicsDec 06 20:04
Techrights-secSince those appear to be run top-down, centrally I wonder what's up with thatDec 06 20:04
Techrights-secyes that has been going on for years now and was really bad in the last 10,Dec 06 20:04
Techrights-secthey just parrot stuff uncritically as if that is reportingDec 06 20:04
schestowitz-TRit is a lot "cheaper"Dec 06 20:04
Techrights-secIf someone says its raining and another person says its dry, its not your job to quote them both. Its yourDec 06 20:05
Techrights-secjob to look out the window and find out which is true."""Dec 06 20:05
Techrights-sec^quoteDec 06 20:05
schestowitz-TRyes, I put that quote in TR several times, even as an image ;-)Dec 06 20:05
Techrights-secfrom unknown sourceDec 06 20:05
Techrights-sec:)Dec 06 20:05
schestowitz-TRnames that vanished (rianne and I floated some an hour ago) gary newell, matt hartly , katherine noyes (remember?), maybe more that are hard to remember anymore. I think lack of traffic killed their morale and they called it quits, or a lack of salaryDec 06 20:07
Techrights-secyes there were others tooDec 06 20:08
schestowitz-TRbetter to quit than to become a presstitude, which means disgracing oneself for a few more salaries and then be remembered as a turncoatDec 06 20:09
Techrights-secyes there were others too; ZDNet, Wired, BYTE, Dr Dobb's, and the others Dec 06 20:10
Techrights-secall were pro FOSS and had specialized columns and sections on GNU/Linux      Dec 06 20:10
Techrights-secspecificallyDec 06 20:10
schestowitz-TRso I made a two tiered systemDec 06 20:10
schestowitz-TRjunk and cruftDec 06 20:10
schestowitz-TRlike ibm/red hat stuffDec 06 20:10
schestowitz-TRI go through it very quicklyDec 06 20:10
schestowitz-TRcollecting itsemfDec 06 20:10
schestowitz-TRhardly bothering to read themDec 06 20:10
schestowitz-TRtoss in "leftovers"Dec 06 20:10
schestowitz-TRand then the few that can still be goodDec 06 20:10
schestowitz-TRthat saves timeDec 06 20:10
Techrights-secgoing through it all is quite a slog; very slow and difficult;Dec 06 20:12
Techrights-secIt's almost impossible to find something good on purpose.Dec 06 20:12
schestowitz-TRdevop cloud... SAP... alliance, AI/ML something blah blahDec 06 20:12
schestowitz-TRcan;'yt stand itDec 06 20:12
schestowitz-TRbasically, the issue is that people who can write better articles sare not writingDec 06 20:13
schestowitz-TRthey are codingDec 06 20:13
schestowitz-TRthis leavs a group of nontechs like spamnil to name-drop buzzwordsDec 06 20:13
Techrights-secbyte had a lot of talented authors who were getting into Linux and GNU/LinuxDec 06 20:20
Techrights-sece.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Bar_(investor)Dec 06 20:20
Techrights-secthe excitement was spreading to the other authors but before it took offDec 06 20:20
Techrights-secBYTE got bought out by CMP and shut down.Dec 06 20:20
Techrights-sechttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte_MagazineDec 06 20:20
Techrights-sec2002 was the end in practiceDec 06 20:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Moshe Bar (investor) - WikipediaDec 06 20:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Byte (magazine) - WikipediaDec 06 20:20
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