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schestowitz-TR[15:35] <techrights-news> Blockchain is Dangerous Nonsense //www.eisfunke.com/article/blockchain-technology.htmlMay 07 00:01
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schestowitz-TRsocial control media can be very addictive in some senseMay 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRI noticed this well before "FOMO" was a thing May 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRback around 2009 and 2010, with identica, I would meticulously go through every "DENT"May 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRthat made it through (by bot) into our IRC channelMay 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRevery single one of themMay 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRusing the IRC logsMay 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRI'd then follow the link and get it "done"May 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRit became my toldo listMay 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRbased on who I followed, e.g. Glyn Moody May 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRYears later I stopped doing itMay 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRThat was very time-consumingMay 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRThat was identica and the results were linear, neutralMay 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRthe s/n ratio was nopt too badMay 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRof course all those dents have been lost forever since 2013, except maybeMay 07 05:47
schestowitz-TRour IRC archive of the odd IA copy (I don't suppose they retain like a million dents)May 07 05:47
Techrights-secGlyn should has a feed.  I'd go out of my way to read the articles May 07 05:51
Techrights-seche writes, even if I would not otherwise visit some of the sitesMay 07 05:51
Techrights-sec^s/has/have/May 07 05:51
Techrights-secyes the effort that people put into social control media is largely a wasteMay 07 05:51
Techrights-secIndependent, threaded discussion forums like SN are another matter.  May 07 05:52
Techrights-secThey can be of use.  Reddit and HN are not among them.  Those are shillMay 07 05:52
Techrights-secsites and Reddit is as least as bad as Twitter, perhaps worseMay 07 05:52
Techrights-secI generally go out of my way to avoid following a link if I see that itMay 07 05:52
Techrights-secgoes to Reddit    May 07 05:52
schestowitz-TR[21:18] <techrights-news> "Communication within the OpenWrt Project One of OpenWrt's (and former LEDE's) goals is that all project-related communication should be done on public channels that are archived and easily browsable." LOL, outsourcing to malicious, lying, propaganda and censorship site Reddit!!! https://openwrt.org/contact?rev=1651790990&do=diffMay 07 05:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-openwrt.org | [OpenWrt Wiki] Communication within the OpenWrt ProjectMay 07 05:52
schestowitz-TRcoming soon: Bill gates Ask Me ANything PREFILTERED, about how people yell at me in the streets -- people whoMay 07 05:54
schestowitz-TRare conspiracy cranks and wannabe murderers... and how I'm really sorry about meeting a person who May 07 05:54
schestowitz-TRgives access to little girls... not everyone who does this can just "apologise" his way outMay 07 05:54
Techrights-secyep they prefilter it so he gets only softball questionsMay 07 05:56
Techrights-secI suppose they are overdue for another such session of reputation launderingMay 07 05:56
schestowitz-TRremember they ewmployed Microsoft Peter for a decadeMay 07 05:57
schestowitz-TRthey develop a reputation and names for themMay 07 05:57
schestowitz-TRthat will chase them for yearsMay 07 05:57
Techrights-secyepMay 07 05:59
Techrights-secthough they do what they can to brush that under the rugMay 07 06:00
Techrights-secnot just were but still are doing thatMay 07 06:01
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schestowitz-TR Conde Nast (of Reddit etc.): we not only employ pedophiles who shill for Microsoft (and get arrested for raping kiMay 07 07:08
schestowitz-TRds), for a whole decade. We also do white-washing for billionaires who are Jeffrey Epstein enablers. I suppose ReddMay 07 07:08
schestowitz-TRit and Ars have no qualms about promoting paedophiles while censoring those who speak on the subject.May 07 07:08
schestowitz-TRbblMay 07 07:08
Techrights-secackMay 07 07:08
schestowitz-TRI've nopticed 2 issuesMay 07 07:32
schestowitz-TR1) the git commnand periodically run does not show me when there are new commits for me to pullMay 07 07:32
schestowitz-TRexcept the ones I push myselfMay 07 07:32
schestowitz-TR2) the add-irc-line fails to work, I'm still investigating the cause May 07 07:32
schestowitz-TROK, re (2), you are running the code that adds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=[tag]May 07 07:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | [tag - Search results - WikipediaMay 07 07:32
schestowitz-TRat your endMay 07 07:32
schestowitz-TRso that's the issueMay 07 07:32
schestowitz-TR(I add those at my end before posting Daily Links)May 07 07:32
schestowitz-TRI've nopticed 2 issuesMay 07 07:39
schestowitz-TR1) the git commnand periodically run does not show me when there are new commits for me to pullMay 07 07:39
schestowitz-TRexcept the ones I push myselfMay 07 07:39
schestowitz-TR2) the add-irc-line fails to work, I'm still investigating the cause May 07 07:39
schestowitz-TROK, re (2), you are running the code that adds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=[tag]May 07 07:39
schestowitz-TRat your endMay 07 07:39
schestowitz-TRso that's the issueMay 07 07:39
schestowitz-TR(I add those at my end before posting Daily Links)May 07 07:39
schestowitz-TRre (1), I added a pull before the usual command, then pushed the changesMay 07 07:39
schestowitz-TR[07:36] <techrights-news> Based on Statcounter, Edge market share fell every month this year. Microsoft Edge, Jan to May: 4.12, 4.06, 4.05, 4.05, and 4.04%May 07 07:39
Techrights-secthe addition of tags is accidental, as mentioned I am a novice with GitMay 07 07:41
Techrights-secand only just starting with itMay 07 07:41
Techrights-secthe 'git commit; git push' are the two basic commands and if there May 07 07:41
Techrights-secare tags added, it is git itselfMay 07 07:41
Techrights-secgit is really good and from what I read has the functionality thatMay 07 07:41
Techrights-secis actually needed but the workflow / UI is terribleMay 07 07:41
schestowitz-TRsame here, though I was good at cvs and svnMay 07 07:42
schestowitz-TRthese things are like waves that com and goMay 07 07:42
schestowitz-TRsomething will replace gitMay 07 07:42
schestowitz-TRwedon't know what yetMay 07 07:42
schestowitz-TR(it won't be github, gh is waning slowly)May 07 07:42
schestowitz-TRNo, I meant you added http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=[tag] at your end in combined html fileMay 07 07:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | [tag - Search results - WikipediaMay 07 07:42
schestowitz-TRthose tags should not be added until  the end, from my endMay 07 07:42
Techrights-secchecking...May 07 07:42
Techrights-secI see.  May 07 07:42
schestowitz-TRB0ng [sic] and Edge are so insignificant that any mere mention of themn, IMHO, would be May 07 07:44
schestowitz-TR'advertising'... I checked the share because some stupid site did a howo on how to May 07 07:44
schestowitz-TRinstall it in "Linux"... I've not seen such misguided howtos in a whileMay 07 07:44
Techrights-secyes they should not be advertisedMay 07 07:44
Techrights-secre-uploaded merged linksMay 07 07:46
schestowitz-TRthanks, fetchingMay 07 07:47
schestowitz-TRhaha 2,200 lines at my expand after expansionMay 07 07:47
schestowitz-TRI think an all-time high ;-)May 07 07:47
schestowitz-TRgoodMay 07 07:47
schestowitz-TRI'lll have a crack at it now, accommodating tuxmachinesMay 07 07:47
Techrights-secniceMay 07 07:48
Techrights-seconly 49 links added manually.  that is the high end of averageMay 07 07:48
Techrights-sec2022-05-01.html:40May 07 07:48
Techrights-sec2022-05-02.html:19May 07 07:48
Techrights-sec2022-05-03.html:75May 07 07:48
Techrights-sec2022-05-04.html:66May 07 07:48
Techrights-sec2022-05-05.html:53May 07 07:48
Techrights-sec2022-05-06.html:55May 07 07:48
Techrights-sec2022-05-07.html:49May 07 07:48
schestowitz-TRthere is a leftover "]"May 07 07:52
schestowitz-TRafter <h5>May 07 07:52
schestowitz-TRnot sure why, but this one I will remove manually this time at my endMay 07 07:52
schestowitz-TRI am guesing something in the code at you end had this small bugMay 07 07:52
schestowitz-TRbut either way, for today's file the fix was simple, with search and replaceMay 07 07:52
Techrights-secokMay 07 07:52
Techrights-sec$ grep -c http ../m2022-04/2022-04-??.html | awk -F : '{a=a+$2} END {print a/NR}'May 07 07:52
Techrights-sec45.5667May 07 07:52
Techrights-secprobably; I had to re-clone Git yesterdayMay 07 07:52
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> I deleted Windows! And switched to Fedora gemini://akselmo.dev/posts/blog-2022-05-06-I-deleted-Windows-and-switched-to-Fedora.gmiMay 07 08:00
schestowitz-TRto see what I mean about "[" (or "]" rather) you can open the merged file at your end,May 07 08:01
schestowitz-TRalso see [Old] ]"May 07 08:01
Techrights-secYes what's strange is that the sed formula was balanced, I double-checkedMay 07 08:02
Techrights-secitMay 07 08:02
Techrights-secI should have checked the output before uploading thoughMay 07 08:02
schestowitz-TRi fixed it for today, I'm apace nowMay 07 08:03
schestowitz-TRI really enjoyed some EPO comments todayMay 07 08:03
schestowitz-TRI posted loads in the main channelMay 07 08:03
Techrights-secackMay 07 08:03
Techrights-secDFC May 07 08:03
Techrights-sec's channe? May 07 08:03
schestowitz-TRheh. yes. though matey has been getting dominant there too, which I don't mindMay 07 08:04
schestowitz-TRI don't spend much time there latelyMay 07 08:04
Techrights-secas long as the off-topic rants, misdirection, and lies are minimized all May 07 08:04
Techrights-secaroundMay 07 08:04
Techrights-secgemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/May 07 08:16
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Techrights-secI wonder how unsustaibable the business model of youtube is,May 07 08:47
Techrights-secbandwidth costs always and so does storage and while the bandwidth willMay 07 08:47
Techrights-secpresumably fluctuate in proportion to the ads shown the storage cosstsMay 07 08:47
Techrights-seconly riseMay 07 08:47
schestowitz-TRgood topicMay 07 08:52
schestowitz-TRI have wondered about it since 2006May 07 08:52
schestowitz-TRlet's break it down May 07 08:52
schestowitz-TRexpenses:May 07 08:52
schestowitz-TR1) staffMay 07 08:52
schestowitz-TR2) equipment in DCMay 07 08:52
schestowitz-TR3) network (upstream+more hardware)May 07 08:52
schestowitz-TR4) replication, see (2) and more of (1)May 07 08:52
schestowitz-TR5) moderation and enforcement, see (1)May 07 08:52
schestowitz-TRsources of incomeMay 07 08:52
schestowitz-TR1) adsMay 07 08:52
schestowitz-TRand I think that's it?May 07 08:52
schestowitz-TR(mind you, over time storage costs go down, but electricity is getting more expensiveMay 07 08:52
schestowitz-TRand over time gulag needs to store more and more data. If traffic decreasesd, the cost/benefitMay 07 08:52
schestowitz-TRequation changes as the ad revenue does not keep up with operation costs)May 07 08:52
schestowitz-TRI forgot to mention among expenses the payouts (before!) to so-called 'creators'May 07 08:52
schestowitz-TRWhen Ton from Blender rejected GitHub he said it had been ioperating at a lossMay 07 08:52
schestowitz-TRand riving VCs' money, hence he knew they would turn the tables one dayMay 07 08:52
schestowitz-TRsame for me with gulagtubeMay 07 08:52
schestowitz-TRfor techbytes we always self-hosted, gulag has a few copies, but that was allMay 07 08:52
schestowitz-TRgulagtube and gulagdrive are just more "professional" faces on Mega/MegaUploadMay 07 08:52
Techrights-secI wonder how unsustaibable the business model of youtube is,May 07 08:54
Techrights-secbandwidth costs always and so does storage and while the bandwidth willMay 07 08:54
Techrights-secpresumably fluctuate in proportion to the ads shown the storage cosstsMay 07 08:54
Techrights-seconly riseMay 07 08:54
Techrights-secafaikMay 07 08:54
Techrights-secah there is also a "premium" for 7 USD / month     May 07 08:54
schestowitz-TRdid you not send me a URL about gulagtube shutting down some "premium" thing (not Red)?May 07 08:54
schestowitz-TROr was it for Twitter or similar (like blue and that new openwash thing, pretending it's not centralised)?May 07 08:54
Techrights-sec   May 07 08:56
Techrights-secnut no clue if anyone anywhere has ever signed up for thatMay 07 08:56
Techrights-secyes but those payouts are probably small when considered in contextMay 07 08:56
Techrights-sec"YouTube also earns revenue from Channel Memberships, YouTube TV, Super Chats, Super Stickers, Super Thanks & MerchMay 07 08:56
Techrights-secandise. "May 07 08:56
Techrights-sechttps://whatisthebusinessmodelof.com/business-models/youtube-business-model/May 07 08:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-whatisthebusinessmodelof.com | YouTube Business Model: How YouTube Makes MoneyMay 07 08:56
Techrights-secBut that can't account for muchMay 07 08:56
Techrights-secthere are probably also kickbacks or whatever for surveillance but notMay 07 08:56
Techrights-secmentioned explicitlyMay 07 08:56
Techrights-secI still can't figure out how Mega differed from the other servicesMay 07 08:56
Techrights-secaside from not being fully onboard with surveillance (probably)May 07 08:56
schestowitz-TRthey say mega was not serious about enforcement or moderation re copyrightsMay 07 08:59
schestowitz-TRor turned a blind eyeMay 07 08:59
schestowitz-TRmegaupload more soMay 07 08:59
schestowitz-TRwhich sounds plausible, but the task does not scale wellMay 07 08:59
schestowitz-TRand I don't see evidence of Box or Gulag doing any better in tharhat regardlMay 07 08:59
schestowitz-TRwhen you are small it\'s common to claim you are infested with "nazis" (parler)May 07 08:59
schestowitz-TRor "piracy" (MegaUpload)May 07 08:59
schestowitz-TRthough figures are hard to verify withMay 07 08:59
Techrights-secyet youtube was allowed to grow; I wonder the relative size of youtubeMay 07 08:59
Techrights-secat the time it was bought by Google compared to MegaMay 07 08:59
schestowitz-TRMega or MegaUpload? Mind you, the latter is dead and the former rather dodgyMay 07 09:00
schestowitz-TRthey also eliminated many "unused" accounts to lower operational costsMay 07 09:01
schestowitz-TR10 years ago rianne and I uploaded backups of photos to megaMay 07 09:01
Techrights-secyes I sometimes wonder why youtube does not purge content to save spaceMay 07 09:02
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schestowitz-TRit does delete itMay 07 09:04
schestowitz-TRI also had this theory I tested last monthMay 07 09:04
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schestowitz-TRabout proximity/cdnMay 07 09:04
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schestowitz-TRand how old and barely watched videoe don't get distributed farMay 07 09:04
schestowitz-TRlike Wayback Machine being slowMay 07 09:04
schestowitz-TRthey even added ads to my old videosMay 07 09:04
schestowitz-TRthat are old howtosMay 07 09:04
schestowitz-TRcan you remind me what link you send re shutdown of "premium" plan? was it gulagtube?May 07 09:04
schestowitz-TRI think we're about to see a major avalanche there...May 07 09:04
Techrights-secI think the wayback machien is slow on purpose in self-defenseMay 07 09:05
Techrights-secI'm not sure I recall, looking anyway ...May 07 09:05
Techrights-sechttps://www.digitaltveurope.com/2022/01/19/youtube-to-shut-down-originals-programme/May 07 09:05
Techrights-sec??May 07 09:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.digitaltveurope.com | YouTube to shut down Originals programme – Digital TV EuropeMay 07 09:05
schestowitz-TRno, it has to be newer, days old, maybe under surveillance or astroturfingMay 07 09:08
schestowitz-TRit was not youtube red or twitter "blue"May 07 09:09
schestowitz-TRor cnn's drm experimentMay 07 09:09
schestowitz-TRdrm has a new name, "+"May 07 09:09
schestowitz-TRABCD+May 07 09:09
schestowitz-TRit's hard to teach people to start paying for something May 07 09:09
schestowitz-TR1) they used to get for freeMay 07 09:09
schestowitz-TR2) they can still get for free elsewhereMay 07 09:09
Techrights-sechttps://www.gamingbible.co.uk/news/netflix-responds-to-drop-in-subscribers-by-cancelling-more-projects-20220422May 07 09:10
Techrights-sec??May 07 09:10
Techrights-sechttps://www.theverge.com/23043232/cnn-plus-axios-chat-shut-down-streaming-newsMay 07 09:10
Techrights-sec??May 07 09:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gamingbible.co.uk | Netflix Responds To Drop In Subscribers By Cancelling Even More ProjectsMay 07 09:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | This chart might explain why CNN Plus shut down early - The VergeMay 07 09:10
schestowitz-TRchecking...May 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRnot sure it's critical, but....May 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRactually, I might end up ina  rabbithole, checking a week's worth of Daily LinksMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRthe point being, never mind what exactly it was (maybe I didn't even get that from "merged"),May 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRall those upselling programmes are failingMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRBryant when he was still "The Linux Gamer" made fun of Twitter BlueMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRor maybe it was someone elseMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRthere is usually no value to these things other than perceived prestiageMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRlike the blue "Mussk-Certified" tickMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRthe very fact those programmes keep coming back show that the biz model is not workngMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRwhen twitter OMENTARILY made profits it was the time it was clobbering away at the userbaseMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRdoing things that royally pissed off their usersMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRlike killing their "apps" of choiceMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRand then the traffic was never the same anymoreMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRand even with ads evewrywhere Twitter ended up swinging back into lossesMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRthe "peak profit" era was the "period of transition by CASHING IN on what's left"May 07 09:18
schestowitz-TR(which I am happy about BTW; they can shoot their own feet, riding people's pensionMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRfunds via Wall Street bubbles and spculative high-interest "schemes")May 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRthe new Twitter owner has another momentary business model, like scamcoin and other May 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRschemesMay 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRnow it's the 'honeymoon period', he hasn't turned his knobs yet,May 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRbut clues show that "free speech" means "some accounts are no longer gratis"May 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRwon't be freee OR free....May 07 09:18
schestowitz-TRbut he'll get a ton of attgention (brand) each time he moves the knobsMay 07 09:18
Techrights-secackMay 07 09:19
Techrights-secI'm not so sure the business model is for twitter as much as it involvesMay 07 09:19
Techrights-sectwitterMay 07 09:19
Techrights-secyes, knobs will be turned after the 6-month grace period passesMay 07 09:19
Techrights-secthe attention is part of the business model but it won't necessarilyMay 07 09:19
Techrights-secbring in money to twitter itself, just to muskMay 07 09:19
schestowitz-TRlikme omidyar with his pet "media" projectsMay 07 09:22
schestowitz-TRrappler, the intercept etc.May 07 09:22
schestowitz-TRhe gains personally, but not from the sitesMay 07 09:22
schestowitz-TRBTW, he did shut down the snowden leaks investigation team not too long after May 07 09:22
schestowitz-TR'buying' itMay 07 09:22
schestowitz-TRand greenwald ended up ... up in armsMay 07 09:22
schestowitz-TRI rarely see that site anymore, but I'm sure it's still activeMay 07 09:22
schestowitz-TRit even employed a fraud arrested for plotting terrorism... as a writerMay 07 09:22
schestowitz-TRI forgot his nameMay 07 09:22
schestowitz-TRburning sources did not help omidyar's name, eitherMay 07 09:22
schestowitz-TRnot one but several, and mostly due to severe cases of incompoetenceMay 07 09:22
schestowitz-TRamong his staffMay 07 09:22
schestowitz-TRI wonder if  Lee (Micah) still works there, I very much doubt itMay 07 09:22
Techrights-secgreenwald appears as a say-for-pay crank who accidentally rose to fameMay 07 09:23
Techrights-secbecause snowden accidentally picked him as a news contact; midyar shut downMay 07 09:23
Techrights-secthe snowden archive and basically vanished the topicfrom the mainstreamMay 07 09:23
Techrights-seceven scheier has not only shut up but also began to toe the lineMay 07 09:23
Techrights-secburning sources IMHO was one of his goalsMay 07 09:23
Techrights-secto sow fear and distrust among potential whistleblowersMay 07 09:23
Techrights-secnote how none have really surfaced since reality winner was May 07 09:23
Techrights-secrailroadedMay 07 09:23
schestowitz-TRtrue, I never thought of that as a theory, but there was one firm May 07 09:26
schestowitz-TRadvertising itself to whistleblower with expensiveMay 07 09:26
schestowitz-TRads in large mediaMay 07 09:26
schestowitz-TRand later it turned out, in court docs, that it had been an fbi informaneMay 07 09:26
schestowitz-TRMark Said et al IIRCMay 07 09:26
schestowitz-TRI used to fight with them, back when Wikileaks was still in good shapeMay 07 09:26
schestowitz-TRand jess Raddack along with Thomas Drake wwere prominent in TwitterMay 07 09:26
schestowitz-TRTwitter became a divisive polatrity machine after thatMay 07 09:26
Techrights-secackMay 07 09:27
Techrights-secyes though with social control media the polarization is in part one meansMay 07 09:27
Techrights-secto drive "engagement"May 07 09:27
schestowitz-TRas a side perk, it helps divert attention away from important nonpartisan stuffMay 07 09:28
schestowitz-TRsuch as wikileaksMay 07 09:28
schestowitz-TRtwitter did its best to polarise these thingsMay 07 09:28
Techrights-secyesMay 07 09:28
schestowitz-TRif not wings then "Russia" and other red herringsMay 07 09:28
schestowitz-TRhang in there a few more years when lots more of the media and "social" media has given upMay 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRI wonder what this will mean to www and whether things like gemini can maintain the same growthMay 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRbut people will still be talking and reading (maybe emojis), so hard to tell... as more regimesMay 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRgo to war and struggle to borrow more capitalMay 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRmy guess is, rather than try to control the media directly there will be more oppressionMay 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRlike outright shutting sites down or censoring them en masseMay 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRCA system is a hopping point towards mass censorshipMay 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRthey can start with "nazi" and "pirate" sites "unworthy of SSL certs" in the CA "trust cartel"May 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRthen they will justify the same for lesser and lesser sitesMay 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRbut they are still building the fencesMay 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRwhich each release of browsers, inc. Mozilla, the nag become worseMay 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRthen they remove the bypass buttonsaMay 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRand later they can just outright block, mozilla even has an option for that now!May 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRBakerville.May 07 09:36
Techrights-secone of the changes that the social control media landscape causes is May 07 09:36
Techrights-seca balkanization of society such that there are no common issues to evenMay 07 09:36
Techrights-secdebate; futhermore there is the degradation of knowledge and competencyMay 07 09:36
Techrights-secsuch that opininos are given equal valence to empirical facts and theMay 07 09:36
Techrights-seclatter are disparagedMay 07 09:36
schestowitz-TRyes, but let's keep separate this issue for the sake of compartmentaliaationMay 07 09:39
schestowitz-TRa friend of vigivegan said that sites with no membership in the SSL CA 'cartel' are the May 07 09:39
schestowitz-TR"new dark web"May 07 09:39
schestowitz-TRmaybe that's the vision they haveMay 07 09:39
schestowitz-TRno cert = "might ne nazi"May 07 09:39
schestowitz-TRhence, blockMay 07 09:39
schestowitz-TRfirst browserMay 07 09:39
schestowitz-TRmaybe later ISPMay 07 09:39
schestowitz-TRit's like Orban with his "media or site registration" schemeMay 07 09:39
schestowitz-TRwhich earned him much notoriety about a decade backMay 07 09:39
schestowitz-TRMinceR: is Orban still doing this?May 07 09:39
Techrights-seccould be.  there is certainly an effort to marginalize those outside May 07 09:39
Techrights-secthe certificate cartel.  That goes *also* for various programing libraries.May 07 09:39
schestowitz-TRwe need to teach people to manage their own codeMay 07 09:42
schestowitz-TR"discoverability" is massively overratedMay 07 09:42
schestowitz-TRlike being "discovered" in gulagtube or TwitterMay 07 09:42
schestowitz-TRtell that to TODAY's used in bothMay 07 09:42
schestowitz-TRGulag has given up on them completelyMay 07 09:42
schestowitz-TRand Twitter is not even used that much May 07 09:42
schestowitz-TRshithub is one of many now, like skype 5-10 years after the criminalsMay 07 09:42
schestowitz-TRbought the darn thingMay 07 09:42
schestowitz-TRWith love from Sweden/Estonia/Lux to NSA/Microsoft...May 07 09:42
schestowitz-TRMade in Europe, made to work for USA, Inc.May 07 09:42
Techrights-secit affect IoT badly tooMay 07 09:42
schestowitz-TRwhat is iot?May 07 09:43
schestowitz-TRwhat do you mean by iot?May 07 09:43
schestowitz-TRbadly -made devices with some low-quality integration thrown on top of themMay 07 09:43
schestowitz-TRusing code "discovered" in Micrrosoft's NSAHub?May 07 09:43
Techrights-secyep May 07 09:44
Techrights-secmore specifically it prevents or inhibits creation of reasonably secureMay 07 09:44
Techrights-secnetworked embedded devicesMay 07 09:44
schestowitz-TRwhat is iot?May 07 09:45
schestowitz-TRwhat do you mean by iot?May 07 09:45
schestowitz-TRbadly -made devices with some low-quality integration thrown on top of themMay 07 09:45
schestowitz-TRusing code "discovered" in Micrrosoft's NSAHub?May 07 09:45
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft/NSA (github CSO is from NSA) can actively promote projects with known holes in themMay 07 09:46
schestowitz-TRas long as only NSA knows of the holeMay 07 09:46
schestowitz-TRmaybe even because it put them there several years backMay 07 09:46
schestowitz-TRthey can poison the "supply chain" with Microsoft as the middlemanMay 07 09:46
Techrights-sec"bugdoors"May 07 09:46
schestowitz-TRbut one has to be careful floating such an hypothesis withouit any concrete evidenceMay 07 09:48
schestowitz-TRto avoid being labeled a crankMay 07 09:48
schestowitz-TRsame for the theories about GitHub ActionsMay 07 09:48
schestowitz-TRbeing the outsourcing of the build systemMay 07 09:48
schestowitz-TRso who the heck knows what that generates or will generateMay 07 09:48
schestowitz-TRthey control not jujst "supply chain"May 07 09:49
schestowitz-TRbut also buiold processMay 07 09:49
schestowitz-TRin the clownMay 07 09:49
schestowitz-TR"BUT IT IS FREE!!!!"May 07 09:49
schestowitz-TRa) so what if we use github, it's still our free softwareMay 07 09:50
schestowitz-TRb) so what if Microsoft took over?May 07 09:50
schestowitz-TRc) so what is security is managed by NSA now? May 07 09:50
schestowitz-TRd) so what if they can edit our code, we can check how they 'fix' itMay 07 09:51
schestowitz-TR3) so what if the build process isn't controlled by us?May 07 09:51
schestowitz-TRf) I've no arguments left, but trust me, our free software it totally safe! STOP BEING MICROSOT HATER!May 07 09:51
Techrights-secyes ad hominem works well when it is heavily fundedMay 07 09:51
schestowitz-TRreats-like-we-have-never-seen/ | Source: Counter PunchMay 07 09:55
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- Nuclear Threats Like We Have Never Seen - CounterPunch.orgMay 07 09:55
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D581.jpgMay 07 09:55
schestowitz-TR [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D224.jpgMay 07 09:55
schestowitz-TRwrong pasteMay 07 09:55
schestowitz-TR "I think I link being miserable, bitter and cynical to being a good person, which is not healthy" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmiMay 07 09:55
schestowitz-TR "upper-middle-class work is insane. you have finance (get paid to play the slots and steal from people), consulting (get paid to take the blame for other people's problems) and big tech (manifest the absolute worst ideas anyone has come up with)." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmiMay 07 09:55
schestowitz-TR "On Tuesday I lost all hearing in my left ear over the course of three hours. I had that otherwise common, ephemeral tinnitus that one sometimes experiences for 3-4 seconds. I had an unusual number of bouts, and they started lasting progressively longer. Then hearing just never returned." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/928May 07 09:56
schestowitz-TRhttps://truthout.org/articles/trump-encouraged-elon-musk-to-buy-twitter-truth-social-ceo-devin-nunes-says/May 07 10:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Trump Encouraged Elon Musk to Buy Twitter, Truth Social CEO Devin Nunes SaysMay 07 10:08
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Book Banning on the Rise in the US ☛ https://www.projectcensored.org/book-banning-on-the-rise-in-the-us/ | Source: Project CensoredMay 07 10:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/book-banning-on-the-rise-in-the-us/ )May 07 10:09
Techrights-secyes bookbanning and other censorship is on the rise and the maneuveringMay 07 10:14
Techrights-secin that direction has been prepared for years; the term "free speech" May 07 10:14
Techrights-secis a dog whistle in some groups and code word which they agitate andMay 07 10:14
Techrights-secfight againstMay 07 10:14
Techrights-secand twitter and the other social control media have been part of thatMay 07 10:14
Techrights-secreframing of the termMay 07 10:14
Techrights-sechttps://www.quora.com/When-did-free-speech-become-a-dog-whistle-term-for-hate-speechMay 07 10:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-When did free speech become a dog-whistle term for hate speech? - QuoraMay 07 10:14
schestowitz-TR"ahte speech" itself is a dangerous labelMay 07 10:15
schestowitz-TRbut you already know thatMay 07 10:15
schestowitz-TRa) a lot of hate is legitimateMay 07 10:16
schestowitz-TRb) the label is poorly definedMay 07 10:16
schestowitz-TRc) the enforcement is done by those who deserve to be hatedMay 07 10:16
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schestowitzcan you still see what I wrote before my other machine died?May 07 10:33
schestowitzwhat happens when the machine dies? (I am still trying to bypass that HDMI PITA)May 07 10:33
schestowitzdid you say something in that other session?May 07 10:34
schestowitzIt looks insistent on starting a new session May 07 10:34
schestowitzinstead of joining an orphaned oneMay 07 10:34
schestowitzsec:"May 07 10:36
schestowitzyes the word in English is becoming on par with "pravda" as peopleMay 07 10:36
schestowitzmove further and further away from empirical factsMay 07 10:36
schestowitzhttps://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/truthiness-meaning-word-originMay 07 10:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What is 'Truthiness'? | Slang Definition of Truthiness | Merriam-Webster | Merriam-WebsterMay 07 10:36
schestowitzhttps://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/magazine/17FOB-onlanguage-t.htmlMay 07 10:36
schestowitznonot sure but you had two ytalk sessions going and two tmux sessions May 07 10:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | Truthiness - The New York TimesMay 07 10:36
schestowitzgoingMay 07 10:36
schestowitzmake sure that it is something like this:May 07 10:36
schestowitztmux attach-session -t whatever || tmux new-session -s whatever ytalkMay 07 10:36
schestowitz"May 07 10:36
schestowitz"no -c needed "May 07 10:49
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schestowitzbrbMay 07 11:11
schestowitzdo not say anything for nowMay 07 11:11
schestowitzI think I found the culrpitMay 07 11:12
schestowitzit's the hdmi cableMay 07 11:12
schestowitzrianne had similar issues with this cable last yhear, we blamed laptop or screenMay 07 11:12
schestowitzbrbMay 07 11:12
schestowitz"ack"May 07 11:12
schestowitz-TRHDMI remains an engima to meMay 07 11:19
schestowitz-TRall those stupid cablesMay 07 11:19
schestowitz-TRand the random swap-aroundMay 07 11:19
schestowitz-TRapropos, I plugged in an external USB storage driveMay 07 11:19
schestowitz-TR300 GBMay 07 11:19
schestowitz-TRfrom around 2005May 07 11:19
schestowitz-TRno computer would be able to mount itMay 07 11:19
schestowitz-TRso you can learn something about age of magnetic disksMay 07 11:19
schestowitz-TRI've not connected it since maybe 2013May 07 11:19
schestowitz-TRto over-compensate for this misery I plan to work on my desk setup todayMay 07 11:26
schestowitz-TRany small improvement counts, over time...May 07 11:26
schestowitz-TRwhat I lost before the incident was,May 07 11:26
schestowitz-TRI said that just like "hate speech" the word "truth" got a bit of a bad connotationMay 07 11:26
schestowitz-TRand that using the work, unlike facts or science, can have a bit of baggage or burdenMay 07 11:26
schestowitz-TRbut I do not know it that started around 9/11/2001May 07 11:26
schestowitz-TRas I had been a teenager prior to itMay 07 11:26
schestowitz-TRand did not read political literatureMay 07 11:26
schestowitz-TRthe web was still just a decade oldMay 07 11:26
Techrights-secackMay 07 11:33
Techrights-secit was two links about the definition of truthinesä neologismMay 07 11:33
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schestowitz-TRI think I am going to use that old hard drive as a hard prop, to hold up a screenMay 07 11:40
schestowitz-TRsad when recycle means use electronics as a rough proprMay 07 11:40
schestowitz-TRbecause they're poorly madeMay 07 11:41
schestowitz-TRnot meant to lastMay 07 11:41
Techrights-secit was two links about the definition of truthinesä neologismMay 07 11:50
Techrights-sechttps://www.quora.com/When-did-free-speech-become-a-dog-whistle-term-for-hate-speechMay 07 11:50
Techrights-secit  might not be a good idea to put physical stress on the device ifMay 07 11:50
Techrights-secit is till in use at allMay 07 11:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-When did free speech become a dog-whistle term for hate speech? - QuoraMay 07 11:50
schestowitz-TRno, the point is,May 07 11:51
schestowitz-TRthat machine cannot be mountedMay 07 11:51
schestowitz-TRit's almost 20 years oldMay 07 11:51
schestowitz-TRand short of forenstic tools I doubt much data can be taken off itMay 07 11:51
schestowitz-TRit's already backed up fully yo a bigger drive iircMay 07 11:51
schestowitz-TR10 times the capacityMay 07 11:51
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Techrights-secif it has been taken out of use then don't worryMay 07 11:53
schestowitz-TRright now I try to over-compensateMay 07 11:53
schestowitz-TR(psych trick)May 07 11:53
schestowitz-TRfor the loss of productivityMay 07 11:53
schestowitz-TRmoreover knowing that starting a new sesison gives a chance to rearrangeMay 07 11:53
schestowitz-TRmore so if I shuffle hardware aroundMay 07 11:53
schestowitz-TRwhich I have to be very careful withMay 07 11:53
schestowitz-TRsometimes I break or tear things in ther process, which means moire time wastedMay 07 11:53
Techrights-secackMay 07 12:07
schestowitz-TRit is an opti'm problem May 07 12:39
schestowitz-TRreusing some VERY old gearMay 07 12:39
schestowitz-TR20+ yearsMay 07 12:39
schestowitz-TRrianne uses 3 mqachines atmMay 07 12:39
schestowitz-TRshwe is on shiftMay 07 12:39
schestowitz-TRnow I am closer to the window and doing exercise while reading should be a tad simplerMay 07 12:39
Techrights-secackMay 07 12:39
Techrights-sectreadmill?May 07 12:39
schestowitz-TRno, shotput ball inside a pillow caseMay 07 12:39
Techrights-secdoing TR and TM backup ATMMay 07 12:42
Techrights-secnoMay 07 12:42
Techrights-sec, that was the last lineMay 07 12:42
schestowitz-TRdid I miss something when session reset?May 07 12:42
schestowitz-TRlast I saw was treadmillMay 07 12:42
Techrights-secrupaldatabase-20220506.dump.gz: invalid compressed data--format violatedMay 07 12:51
Techrights-secwordpressdatabase-20220506.dump.gz: invalid compressed data--format violatedMay 07 12:53
schestowitz-TRI guess my test scripts do not work correctly thenMay 07 12:54
schestowitz-TRyou can see the empty file ~/dump-integrity-check.log and the cronjob that is supposed to send such output to itMay 07 12:54
Techrights-secyes that file is emptyMay 07 13:01
Techrights-sec$ gzip -t drupaldatabase-20220506.dump.gzMay 07 13:02
Techrights-secgzip: drupaldatabase-20220506.dump.gz: invalid compressed data--format violatedMay 07 13:02
Techrights-secthe gzipped dump is no good on TR as wellMay 07 13:02
schestowitz-TRI think I can see the issue nowMay 07 13:02
Techrights-secwhich script?May 07 13:09
Techrights-secfetch-tm-dump.sh ?May 07 13:09
Techrights-secthere is no redirect in that script, gzip works directly on the file.May 07 13:09
Techrights-secperhaps that is the problem?May 07 13:09
Techrights-sec^symptomMay 07 13:09
Techrights-seccheckingMay 07 13:09
schestowitz-TROK, I think the issue is May 07 13:09
schestowitz-TRrunning guznip and using >> to a fileMay 07 13:09
schestowitz-TRthe i/o which reports an error does not go to the fileMay 07 13:10
schestowitz-TRmaybe need some number there?May 07 13:10
schestowitz-TR~May 07 13:10
schestowitz-TRthe file is ~/bin/get_dbs.shMay 07 13:10
schestowitz-TRthere are 3 places there where it sends output to a fileMay 07 13:10
schestowitz-TRthere is a similar thing in the TM remote backup scriptMay 07 13:10
Techrights-secsame there, gzip works directly on the fileMay 07 13:13
Techrights-seci'm going to try re-running get_dbs.sh manuallyMay 07 13:13
schestowitz-TRthanks, this way you can see i/oMay 07 13:13
Techrights-secalthough it was yesterday's which failed and today's is okMay 07 13:16
schestowitz-TRbased on a test that I did, the error message from gunzip shows up in the command lineMay 07 13:16
schestowitz-TRbut does not go to the file based on my testMay 07 13:16
schestowitz-TRso I did the output-to-file thing wrongMay 07 13:16
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Techrights-secackMay 07 13:28
schestowitz-TRit is possible that it was always a mistake to do in-place gzip?May 07 13:30
schestowitz-TRdoesn't seem to have caused issues until jan 6th 2022?May 07 13:30
schestowitz-TRI think 1>2 or something like that would let me see the status of the gzMay 07 13:30
schestowitz-TRbut that in itself would not solve the issue, just highlight it when it happensMay 07 13:30
schestowitz-TR(/me finished shuffling things around, a lot better now!)May 07 13:30
Techrights-sec        May 07 13:30
Techrights-secackMay 07 13:30
Techrights-secperhaps but I have no idea about what is causing the symptomsMay 07 13:30
schestowitz-TRcan you see my mistake, like why >> log file  May 07 13:31
schestowitz-TRwould not send the output I get when running the same interactively from the CLI?May 07 13:31
Techrights-secthe error message probably goes to stderr so I've added a redirectionMay 07 13:35
Techrights-secfor both linesMay 07 13:35
schestowitz-TRin tmux I set up a small pane that notifies us when there is a bad gzMay 07 13:41
schestowitz-TRI see three lines, for 3 gz files, I will add the missing oneMay 07 13:41
schestowitz-TRdoneMay 07 13:41
schestowitz-TRthe missing one was in wiki dump May 07 13:41
schestowitz-TRshould it be 2>&1May 07 13:41
schestowitz-TRor the other way around?May 07 13:41
schestowitz-TRbecause in TM backup scripts it's used the other way aroundMay 07 13:41
schestowitz-TRsee tmux middle pane right now...May 07 13:42
Techrights-secackMay 07 13:48
Techrights-secit should be 2>&1May 07 13:48
Techrights-secok, so we have identified a years-old bug along the wayMay 07 13:49
Techrights-sec(I think)May 07 13:49
Techrights-secor maybe those other lines are OKMay 07 13:49
schestowitz-TRok, so we have identified a years-old bug along the wayMay 07 13:49
schestowitz-TR(I think)May 07 13:49
schestowitz-TRor maybe those other lines are OKMay 07 13:49
Techrights-secprobablyMay 07 13:49
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Sites like propublica, which take bribes from Bill Gates, have two reasons not to cover his crimes but to cover them up. 1) they might put at risk future money from the criminal. 2) by writing on the issue people might be led to point out the bribes, taking the scandal public So the bribes are hush money or PR money (BillPR/NPR and BillBC).May 07 14:06
Techrights-secackMay 07 14:15
MinceR07 103918 < schestowitz-TR> MinceR: is Orban still doing this?May 07 14:43
MinceRi'm not sure what happened to thatMay 07 14:43
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Techrights-sechttps://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/05/youtube-go-is-shutting-down/May 07 16:45
Techrights-sechttps://futurism.com/the-byte/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-bad-ideaMay 07 16:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/05/youtube-go-is-shutting-down/ )May 07 16:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-futurism.com | Bill Gates Says It Was a Bad Idea to Pal Around With Jeffrey EpsteinMay 07 16:45
Techrights-secBillG won't make a comebackMay 07 16:55
Techrights-secpeople will fire backMay 07 16:55
Techrights-secre GulagTube Go, yes... that's the one I had in mindMay 07 16:55
Techrights-secGO-LAG-GOMay 07 16:55
Techrights-secackMay 07 16:55
schestowitz-TRBillG won't make a comebackMay 07 16:56
schestowitz-TRpeople will fire backMay 07 16:56
schestowitz-TRre GulagTube Go, yes... that's the one I had in mindMay 07 16:56
schestowitz-TRGO-LAG-GOMay 07 16:56
Techrights-secackMay 07 16:56
schestowitz-TRwith billg, unlike rms, he cannot claim that it was all falseMay 07 16:58
schestowitz-TRratger, he admits that he liedMay 07 16:58
schestowitz-TRwhat's more, the media keeps pulishing this, reminding people or telling peoppleMay 07 16:58
schestowitz-TRthat he was close to epsteinMay 07 16:58
schestowitz-TRnot all of them even know about itMay 07 16:58
schestowitz-TRso I don't think his strategy can ever workMay 07 16:58
Techrights-secyes but it looks like they do that to softpedal his involvement inMay 07 16:58
Techrights-secEpstein's activities;  There's been very little coverage of the moneyMay 07 16:58
Techrights-secpart too.May 07 16:58
schestowitz-TRthen people start searcjing the WebMay 07 16:59
schestowitz-TRmaybe part of that is just periodically googlebombing May 07 16:59
schestowitz-TRbut again, I doubt this will workMay 07 16:59
Techrights-secit looks like googlebombingMay 07 16:59
schestowitz-TRplus namecallingMay 07 16:59
Techrights-secthey may also be trying to wear out the public's attention span May 07 17:00
schestowitz-TRmy dad sent me 2 links about thisMay 07 17:09
schestowitz-TRtwo, separareltMay 07 17:09
schestowitz-TRhe was lividMay 07 17:09
schestowitz-TRhe also says people he knew strongly dislike GatesMay 07 17:09
schestowitz-TRit does not take an opinion pollMay 07 17:09
schestowitz-TRthat's definitely a new thingMay 07 17:09
Techrights-secbefore his long and expensive campaing for reputatino laundering heMay 07 17:10
Techrights-secwas one of the most hated people in industryMay 07 17:10
schestowitz-TROK, finished daily linksMay 07 17:14
schestowitz-TRrss left, lots of stuff piling us thereMay 07 17:14
schestowitz-TRhad 2+ hours of napMay 07 17:14
schestowitz-TRI did successfully overcompensate for thgat hdmi+crash issueMay 07 17:14
Techrights-secackMay 07 17:14
schestowitz-TRthe setup here is a lot better nowMay 07 17:14
schestowitz-TRso I can say "maybe for the better..."May 07 17:14
schestowitz-TRI had too small a space for moving the mouseMay 07 17:14
schestowitz-TRalso, I improved the water/coffee isolation (from equipment)May 07 17:14
schestowitz-TRI still have 2 birthday balloons hereMay 07 17:14
schestowitz-TRif you can think of topic idea, that would helpMay 07 17:14
schestowitz-TRmy goal will be to clean all feeds except patentsMay 07 17:14
schestowitz-TRadn then focus on patents tomorrowMay 07 17:14
Techrights-seci had some the other day but cannot recall, do you keep a list of possibleMay 07 17:18
Techrights-secideas?May 07 17:18
schestowitz-TRusually a mental list if not concreteMay 07 17:21
schestowitz-TRif concrete I sump a linkMay 07 17:21
schestowitz-TRsometimes I yarn for ideas and then regret not writing them downMay 07 17:21
schestowitz-TRthis morning I mention to you Edge market shareMay 07 17:21
schestowitz-TRit was a remote idea of something to ADDD to something ELSEMay 07 17:21
schestowitz-TRas a BY THE WAYMay 07 17:21
schestowitz-TRas I do not wish to mention that BRANDMay 07 17:21
schestowitz-TRbut it might help to show thatMay 07 17:21
schestowitz-TR4% is no majore threat May 07 17:21
schestowitz-TRI am still adjusting here, had extra sleepMay 07 17:21
schestowitz-TRrianne dealt today with a client she hatesMay 07 17:21
schestowitz-TRon thurs. we'll see what best suits usMay 07 17:21
schestowitz-TReven food discounts might be at riskMay 07 17:21
schestowitz-TRmy dad says I'm super-lucky to have such an easy job from homeMay 07 17:21
schestowitz-TRand gets upset if I tell him I might leaveMay 07 17:21
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Techrights-secis net neutrality a relevant topic?May 07 17:53
Techrights-secwhat about this push to deploy or pretend to deploy FIDO everywhere?May 07 17:53
Techrights-secaside from the surveillance and gatekeeping factor, there is a questionMay 07 17:53
Techrights-sec(on my part) about standard-critical software patents.May 07 17:53
schestowitz-TRi do not know FIDO well enoughMay 07 17:54
schestowitz-TRI know what it is aboutMay 07 17:54
schestowitz-TR2FA is antoehr problemMay 07 17:54
Techrights-secYes it is one aspect of 2FA but it can be deployed in a way that weakens May 07 17:55
Techrights-secsecurity or leaves it the same, likewise it can be deployed in a way thatMay 07 17:55
Techrights-seccauses problems for privacy and can introduce single point of failure risksMay 07 17:55
Techrights-sechttps://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/outage-disrupts-microsoft-services/May 07 17:56
Techrights-secoldMay 07 17:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Outage disrupts Microsoft services - CNETMay 07 17:56
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Techrights-sechttps://www.information-age.com/microsoft-in-passport-climb-down-285266/May 07 18:22
Techrights-secoldMay 07 18:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.information-age.com | Microsoft in Passport climb down - Information AgeMay 07 18:22
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Imposing Microsoft junk on Gemini protocol? gemini://gemini.marmaladefoo.com/blog/May 07 19:02
SomeH4x0rcongratulations, you were noticedMay 07 19:03
SomeH4x0ra few decades pass, and you will be saying "kill Gemini"May 07 19:03
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SomeH4x0rany big attempts to fix the evil system will be infiltrated by their agents which you won't noticeMay 07 19:04
SomeH4x0rthen these attempts will be converted to the same evilMay 07 19:04
SomeH4x0rI have no hopeMay 07 19:05
Techrights-secackMay 07 19:09
Techrights-secwhich part of "Luke's Gemlog" ?May 07 19:09
Techrights-seceww "SmolNetSharp ..."May 07 19:09
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> China intends to transfer state institutions and state-owned enterprises to Linux and PCs of local manufacturers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164572#comment-33571May 07 19:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | China Orders Government, State Firms to Dump Foreign PCs | Tux MachinesMay 07 19:13
schestowitz-TRone way or another, we're getting our wayMay 07 19:13
schestowitz-TRnot without challengeMay 07 19:13
schestowitz-TRbut we'll get thereMay 07 19:13
schestowitz-TRand get co-optedMay 07 19:13
Techrights-secthe good part is that the latest entry is from years ago so it looksMay 07 19:14
Techrights-secabandonedMay 07 19:14
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Small-Scale Fab: Make Parts with Free/Open Source Software • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164582May 07 19:20
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Techrights-secackMay 07 19:30
schestowitz-TRergonomics improved a lot here today, also mobility of a laptop habitually used for 'gym'May 07 19:31
schestowitz-TRI wish I had done that soonerMay 07 19:31
schestowitz-TRI had a good excuse to pause and work on thisMay 07 19:31
Techrights-secgreatMay 07 19:31
Techrights-secergonomics are very important very quickly and bad ergonomics can May 07 19:37
Techrights-secvery suddenly become a severe problem and take ages to correct / repairMay 07 19:37
schestowitz-TRgetting up and back down fast is helpfulMay 07 19:39
schestowitz-TRalso distance from the lamp when doing exerciseMay 07 19:39
schestowitz-TRlike I said at noon, it's a never-ending optimisation problemMay 07 19:39
schestowitz-TRin the old place I recheed near optimum but then ran out of space whenMay 07 19:39
schestowitz-TRadding another PCMay 07 19:39
schestowitz-TRso I relocated May 07 19:39
schestowitz-TRnow I'm next to two doors that open up to the sunMay 07 19:39
Techrights-secniceMay 07 19:39
Techrights-secthough sun is hard with computer screens due to low contrast, so continualMay 07 19:39
Techrights-secadjustment through the day is necessaryMay 07 19:39
schestowitz-TRthe sun was a bigger problem at the old place because it was direct (face, screens, or both)May 07 19:40
Techrights-secackMay 07 19:41
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schestowitz-TRI've shut the door, but cannot record about FIDO as I think I have a weak grasp on the pertinent issueMay 07 19:55
schestowitz-TRmaybe a textual rebuttal would be better, provided pounters other than the aofrementioned onesMay 07 19:55
Techrights-secI wonder if the whole 2FA / FIDO / OAUTH thing has been vetted againstMay 07 19:55
Techrights-secsubmarine patentsMay 07 19:55
schestowitz-TRi see posts about swpats a lot (in weekends this year) and havent not seen many of this kind, in suit,May 07 19:56
schestowitz-TRjust some allusions to securityMay 07 19:56
schestowitz-TRbut I think with FIDO it's better to focus on control rather than the patebt aspects May 07 19:56
schestowitz-TRcui bono?May 07 19:56
schestowitz-TRI thought about doing some video about the (now 2) coverage from Daniel about Debian using the May 07 19:58
schestowitz-TRtrademark for overt censorshipMay 07 19:58
schestowitz-TRthe TM person in Debian has just resignedMay 07 19:58
schestowitz-TR(FIDO is a little outside my ballpark, we covered it before quoting a secuirty enthusiast)May 07 19:58
Techrights-secyes that is very interesting too especially what they are trying toMay 07 19:59
Techrights-sechide through trademark enforcementMay 07 19:59
schestowitz-TRI covered the Fedora caseMay 07 20:01
schestowitz-TRThis one is similar to itMay 07 20:01
schestowitz-TRThough I suspect the motivations are a bit differentMay 07 20:01
schestowitz-TRI'll wait and see what happens...May 07 20:01
schestowitz-TR"A large sum of money from Debian funds is now paying for Jonathan Cohen, a lawyer at Charles Fussell & Co LLP, to purse aMay 07 20:01
schestowitz-TRSLAPP lawsuit and try to shut down the Debian Community News and the Uncensored Debian Planet web sites." https://fsfellowsMay 07 20:01
schestowitz-TRhip.news/charles-fussell-jonathan-cohen-debian-slapp-microsite-resignations/May 07 20:01
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Techrights-seccan ties or parallels be discussed, that would be a topic as wellMay 07 20:02
Techrights-secunfortunate, I figure those uses of the trademark are valid since theyMay 07 20:02
Techrights-secare used to talk /about/ debian and identify it.May 07 20:02
schestowitz-TRthis is an ongoing tory (2 parts in 3 days), so i can wait, add more parts as comments in TMMay 07 20:04
schestowitz-TRand then go through them one by oneMay 07 20:04
schestowitz-TRI will have no struggle or qualm explaining thoseMay 07 20:04
schestowitz-TRas I myself had experience with SLAPPMay 07 20:04
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