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MinceR:>Jun 09 00:02
acer-box__The everybody is sexist part is a bit like "original sin" -- where everyone is presumed guilty just for being born. We need to presume innocence and go by evidenceJun 09 00:06
schestowitz>> [14:18] <zoobab> @schestowitz why Pieter left Twitter:Jun 09 01:33
schestowitz>> https://niccokunzmann.github.io/hintjens.com/hintjens.com/blog:114.1.htmlJun 09 01:34
schestowitz> Spot on, but it's also a layer deeper: those factions are goaded byJun 09 01:34
schestowitz> other factions, as proxies, too.Jun 09 01:34
schestowitz> Jun 09 01:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-niccokunzmann.github.io | Why I've Quit Twitter - Hintjens.comJun 09 01:34
schestowitz>> Past 7 days:Jun 09 01:34
schestowitz>>Jun 09 01:34
schestowitz>>Jun 09 01:34
schestowitz>> 1)361385/wp-login.phpJun 09 01:34
schestowitz>> 2)170639/home//xmlrpc.phpJun 09 01:34
schestowitz>> 3)107745noneJun 09 01:34
schestowitz>> ...Jun 09 01:34
schestowitz> None of these should be in the top 50.  That login.php does present aJun 09 01:34
schestowitz> problem.  Which account(s) are they trying to crack?  That is importantJun 09 01:34
schestowitz> information.Jun 09 01:34
schestowitzWe can decide to switch login on and off at particular times, assuming people don't log in to comment much...Jun 09 01:34
schestowitzI did not check which accounts are targeted.Jun 09 01:34
schestowitz> Good morning.Jun 09 01:36
schestowitz> I am 100% in agreement with your opinions about "open source", the threats to Free Software, and the smearing of prominent members of the Free Software community.Jun 09 01:36
schestowitz> However, I believe that our views could be presented more effectively.Jun 09 01:36
schestowitz> I tried to register at techrights.org in order to comment, but registration doesn't work. It says it's going to send an email to my email address, but it never does. I've tried twice, several days ago and a few minutes ago.Jun 09 01:36
schestowitzHi,Jun 09 01:36
schestowitzI am guessing that Yahoo puts that outgoing mail from our server in the spam folder, perhaps? Or blocks it? My mail relays work fine with that IP. I could check mail logs at our end if you cannot find it.Jun 09 01:36
acer-box__https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1270156204606701569Jun 09 01:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @AmbyR00 @schestowitz @rikkiends I see very few facts reported on Techrights, just innuendo masquerading as fact. Sorry.Jun 09 01:50
acer-box__"I see very few facts reported on Techrights, just innuendo masquerading as fact. Sorry."Jun 09 01:50
acer-box__Can you give an example of this, please?Jun 09 01:51
schestowitzhttps://placeholderapi.wordpress.com/2020/06/08/uk-reports-only-55-more-covid19-cases-today-but-tomorrow-well/#comment-16634Jun 09 02:03
schestowitz"Our administration don’t care for us in UK…the use of ‘only’ just depicts the contempt felt that they are being made to count the deaths at all."Jun 09 02:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-placeholderapi.wordpress.com | #uk reports ‘only’ 55 more #covid19 cases today, but tomorrow we’ll… | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Jun 09 02:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TargetedMadison/status/1270156123291766787Jun 09 02:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TargetedMadison: @schestowitz Welcome. You're a Targeted Individual.Jun 09 02:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AmbyR00/status/1270156747752247298Jun 09 02:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmbyR00: @BrideOfLinux @schestowitz I have my doubts. You did already reveal your dogma, and phobia over men at the workplac… https://t.co/zFNfctSiF4Jun 09 02:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmbyR00: @BrideOfLinux @schestowitz I have my doubts. You did already reveal your dogma, and phobia over men at the workplac… https://t.co/zFNfctSiF4Jun 09 02:13
schestowitz"Jun 09 02:13
schestowitzI have my doubts. You did already reveal your dogma, and phobia over men at the workplace, how you like to excommunicate members of your community for "bad thoughts".Jun 09 02:13
schestowitzPretty cultish if you ask me.Jun 09 02:13
schestowitz"Jun 09 02:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1270157565306028033Jun 09 02:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @AmbyR00 @schestowitz Actually, if you go back to that conversation I never expressed either a phobia over men, or… https://t.co/PdbbdtjAzVJun 09 02:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @AmbyR00 @schestowitz Actually, if you go back to that conversation I never expressed either a phobia over men, or… https://t.co/PdbbdtjAzVJun 09 02:13
schestowitz"Actually, if you go back to that conversation I never expressed either a phobia over men, or ever indicated "excommunicating" any over any kind of thoughts. I do believe that people can be fired for abusing coworkers, whether that abuse be physical, mental, or emotional."Jun 09 02:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AmbyR00/status/1270155457173299200Jun 09 02:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmbyR00: @BrideOfLinux @schestowitz @rikkiends See, you try to distort the discussion into definition of lying. Lying as in… https://t.co/HdRd9FKa6TJun 09 02:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmbyR00: @BrideOfLinux @schestowitz @rikkiends See, you try to distort the discussion into definition of lying. Lying as in… https://t.co/HdRd9FKa6TJun 09 02:14
schestowitz"Jun 09 02:14
schestowitzSee, you try to distort the discussion into definition of lying.Jun 09 02:14
schestowitzLying as in not telling the truth.Jun 09 02:14
schestowitzIf you lay out a fact, after a fact, after a fact. That compounds into a story, that those facts corroborate.Jun 09 02:14
schestowitzEmbrace, extend and extinguish is a proven Microsoft strategy.Jun 09 02:14
schestowitz"Jun 09 02:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1270153707909451776Jun 09 02:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @AmbyR00 @schestowitz @rikkiends Depends on what your definition of "lying" is. I suspect he believes his theories,… https://t.co/W2iANwt86HJun 09 02:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @AmbyR00 @schestowitz @rikkiends Depends on what your definition of "lying" is. I suspect he believes his theories,… https://t.co/W2iANwt86HJun 09 02:15
schestowitz"Depends on what your definition of "lying" is. I suspect he believes his theories, but he offers no proof whatsoever other than his interpretations of what certain actions companies (mostly Microsoft) undertake mean. I see no evidence to support most of his claims."Jun 09 02:15
schestowitzFor which claims do you need additional proof of?Jun 09 02:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1270154129244028930Jun 09 02:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @AmbyR00 @schestowitz And what is my religion?Jun 09 02:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PamelaDrew/status/1270152169812119554Jun 09 02:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PamelaDrew: Problem is the deepest pockets are #Congress where MoC are bought & paid for by corps aligned by Committee. They fa… https://t.co/gtzIxOxqKbJun 09 02:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PamelaDrew: Problem is the deepest pockets are #Congress where MoC are bought & paid for by corps aligned by Committee. They fa… https://t.co/gtzIxOxqKbJun 09 02:19
schestowitz"Problem is the deepest pockets are #Congress where MoC are bought & paid for by corps aligned by Committee. They fail first job of managing spending & contractor empire pays millions to buy seats for windfall profits & power. Let DoD find its $26 trillion."Jun 09 02:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1270129486768623618Jun 09 02:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz @rikkiends That's too easy , Roy. We've discussed this many times. You make allegations you don't back… https://t.co/aSrQLhD0xCJun 09 02:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz @rikkiends That's too easy , Roy. We've discussed this many times. You make allegations you don't back… https://t.co/aSrQLhD0xCJun 09 02:20
schestowitz"That's too easy , Roy. We've discussed this many times. You make allegations you don't back up with facts. You could be doing really good work as a muckraker, but that would require work, digging, and journalism. Instead, you've become open source's left wing version of Trump."Jun 09 02:20
schestowitzComparing me to Trump is a lazy way to not deal with any of the things I've shown. Be more specific please....Jun 09 02:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AmbyR00/status/1270143495144177664Jun 09 02:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmbyR00: @BrideOfLinux @schestowitz @rikkiends Is he lying though?Jun 09 02:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AmbyR00/status/1270143188406358018Jun 09 02:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmbyR00: @BrideOfLinux @schestowitz You don't have to be a christian to have a religious dogma. Your religion is not much different though.Jun 09 02:22
schestowitz"You don't have to be a christian to have a religious dogma. Your religion is not much different though."Jun 09 02:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1270132655154237440Jun 09 02:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz I wasn't born a Christian, so "original sin" isn't part of my consciousness. I believe we all have a h… https://t.co/MzfyDTHyHCJun 09 02:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz I wasn't born a Christian, so "original sin" isn't part of my consciousness. I believe we all have a h… https://t.co/MzfyDTHyHCJun 09 02:23
schestowitz"I wasn't born a Christian, so "original sin" isn't part of my consciousness. I believe we all have a hidden nature that's capable of ultimate good."Jun 09 02:23
schestowitzI used "original sin" merely as an analogyJun 09 02:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1270131956228018176Jun 09 02:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz Actually, Roy, I was trying to agree with what I think was your point, that if you look hard enough at… https://t.co/zFTJp2oXkJJun 09 02:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz Actually, Roy, I was trying to agree with what I think was your point, that if you look hard enough at… https://t.co/zFTJp2oXkJJun 09 02:24
schestowitz"Actually, Roy, I was trying to agree with what I think was your point, that if you look hard enough at anyone you'll find evidence of sexism and racism, that no matter how small and meaningless could be blown up to make that person look like Gene Simmons."Jun 09 02:24
schestowitzI know what you mean, but when we let these things be weaponised we allow good people to be "canceled" when someone in power controls the media, the narrative, pays colleagues' salaries etc.Jun 09 02:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/StarchyArchie/status/1270075059651166212Jun 09 02:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@StarchyArchie: @ZDNet cc: @SchestowitzJun 09 02:26
schestowitz#boycottZDNet http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNetJun 09 02:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | ZDNet - TechrightsJun 09 02:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/cheezburgrmania/status/1270036878125944832Jun 09 02:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@cheezburgrmania: @schestowitz Non-profit bike shops in cities do real work for equality.Jun 09 02:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1269992041133547521Jun 09 02:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: Isn't that a breech of OpSec? If the enema find out Microsoft is guiding our 'strike eeguls' couldn't they de-wire… https://t.co/gJm6R5VsWYJun 09 02:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: Isn't that a breech of OpSec? If the enema find out Microsoft is guiding our 'strike eeguls' couldn't they de-wire… https://t.co/gJm6R5VsWYJun 09 02:28
schestowitz"Isn't that a breech of OpSec? If the enema find out Microsoft is guiding our 'strike eeguls' couldn't they de-wire their own Microsoft guidance systems to 'play jiggery-pokery' in ours?  Like one MS operating system is built on the previous one. Egad!"Jun 09 02:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1270163765779222529Jun 09 02:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz @AmbyR00 @rikkiends Pretty much any of them Roy. You are constantly reporting on Microsoft's motives,… https://t.co/zb8NfAG1AEJun 09 02:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz @AmbyR00 @rikkiends Pretty much any of them Roy. You are constantly reporting on Microsoft's motives,… https://t.co/zb8NfAG1AEJun 09 02:31
schestowitz"Pretty much any of them Roy. You are constantly reporting on Microsoft's motives, without any proof other than something you heard from some unnamed person. Microsoft's out to destroy Linux, for example. Where's the proof in that?"Jun 09 02:31
schestowitzHow familiar are you with Comes vs Microsoft? And before you say "old news"... I can present you with more recent evidence.Jun 09 02:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1270164755999854592Jun 09 02:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz @rikkiends That's specific enough. Show me where during the past year you've documented with evidence… https://t.co/ZOvclY9Oh1Jun 09 02:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz @rikkiends That's specific enough. Show me where during the past year you've documented with evidence… https://t.co/ZOvclY9Oh1Jun 09 02:32
schestowitz"That's specific enough. Show me where during the past year you've documented with evidence any of your claims regarding Microsoft's motives."Jun 09 02:32
schestowitzA year ago Microsoft blackmailed Foxconn using patentsJun 09 02:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1270165839195537408Jun 09 02:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz In that case I was agreeing with you Roy. What part of that don't you understand? I was saying we don'… https://t.co/qahsvHZSktJun 09 02:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz In that case I was agreeing with you Roy. What part of that don't you understand? I was saying we don'… https://t.co/qahsvHZSktJun 09 02:33
schestowitz"In that case I was agreeing with you Roy. What part of that don't you understand? I was saying we don't go around arresting everybody for murder just because everybody sometimes has a murdering instinct."Jun 09 02:33
schestowitzOK, we mostly agree. I think that the gap we have revolves around recently-collected evidence about Microsoft.Jun 09 02:33
schestowitzclickJun 09 09:48
schestowitz                <li>Jun 09 09:48
schestowitz                  <h5><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2020/06/07/blazing-fast-and-beautiful-linux-os-peppermint-11-is-in-development/">Blazing Fast And Beautiful: Linux OS Peppermint 11 Is In Development</a></h5>Jun 09 09:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2020/06/07/blazing-fast-and-beautiful-linux-os-peppermint-11-is-in-development/%22%3EBlazing/ )Jun 09 09:48
schestowitz                  <blockquote>Jun 09 09:48
schestowitz                    <p>Peppermint OS is based on Ubuntu LTS (Long-Term Support) code, so I would expect the new version to be supported until 2025. The current version includes great touches under the hood like an ad-blocker, as well as ICE, a utility that transforms a website or web app into a standalone browser-based application that integrates right into the system menus and desktop.</p></blockquote></li>Jun 09 09:48
schestowitz                <li>Jun 09 09:48
schestowitz                  <h5><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2020/06/07/blazing-fast-and-beautiful-linux-os-peppermint-11-is-in-development/">Blazing Fast And Beautiful: Linux OS Peppermint 11 Is In Development</a></h5>Jun 09 09:48
schestowitz                  <blockquote>Jun 09 09:48
schestowitz                    <p>Peppermint OS is based on Ubuntu LTS (Long-Term Support) code, so I would expect the new version to be supported until 2025. The current version includes great touches under the hood like an ad-blocker, as well as ICE, a utility that transforms a website or web app into a standalone browser-based application that integrates right into the system menus and desktop.</p></blockquote></li>Jun 09 09:48
schestowitz"Please label "cartoons" with descriptive titles identifying them as such.  They are not articles or other long-form postings."Jun 09 10:59
schestowitzmakes senseJun 09 11:00
schestowitzmaybe [Cartoon[Jun 09 11:00
schestowitzstarting tomorrowJun 09 11:00
schestowitz=Jun 09 11:23
schestowitzx https://securityboulevard.com/2020/06/open-source-sucks-says-ballsy-infosec-firm/Jun 09 11:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 502 @ https://securityboulevard.com/2020/06/open-source-sucks-says-ballsy-infosec-firm/ )Jun 09 11:23
schestowitzx https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-open-source-software-vulnerabilities-create-risk-for-organizations/Jun 09 11:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.techrepublic.com | How open source software vulnerabilities create risk for organizations - TechRepublicJun 09 11:24
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18323893Jun 09 15:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post?Jun 09 15:35
schestowitz"@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) Is this Brian Lunduke still a thing ? I thought he descented into irrelevance (where he always belonged)."Jun 09 15:35
schestowitzHe's trolling as his site lost all steam and his career is in ruinsJun 09 15:36
schestowitz"@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) Is this Brian Lunduke still a thing ? I thought he descented into irrelevance (where he always belonged)."Jun 09 15:36
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