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schestowitz-TR | the pi backups are working ok at 5:30 | Aug 09 07:17 |
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schestowitz-TR | I think ipfs works OK too, for output to site and to your IRC posts | Aug 09 07:17 |
schestowitz-TR | I'm going to try to clone the whole system to USB now | Aug 09 07:17 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 09 07:17 |
Techrights-sec | I looked at kde-plasma-desktop and its dependencies in Gephi but the | Aug 09 07:17 |
Techrights-sec | data modification needs a little more work to make it look nice. Even | Aug 09 07:17 |
Techrights-sec | without making it look nice, once can see that it is very complex and | Aug 09 07:17 |
Techrights-sec | some of the dependencies occur many times over | Aug 09 07:17 |
schestowitz-TR | cloning | Aug 09 07:20 |
schestowitz-TR | are you good at assessing brands for removable storage? | Aug 09 07:20 |
schestowitz-TR | (I'm not) | Aug 09 07:20 |
schestowitz-TR | for instamnce, is KIOXIA considered OK? | Aug 09 07:20 |
schestowitz-TR | the one I bought is very generic and I only intend to use it as a safety net for future D-R | Aug 09 07:20 |
schestowitz-TR | this one says 2 years wrranty on the cardbord part of the pack | Aug 09 07:21 |
schestowitz-TR | not sure how to even interpret that, it cost 9 pounds | Aug 09 07:21 |
schestowitz-TR | for 32 gb | Aug 09 07:21 |
Techrights-sec | no the storage quality is constantly changing; brands which were good recently | Aug 09 07:22 |
Techrights-sec | cut quality for increased profit and coast on the name recognition a cycle | Aug 09 07:22 |
Techrights-sec | or two until their bad reputation cuts into profits and then they play | Aug 09 07:22 |
Techrights-sec | catchup; GOTO 10; | Aug 09 07:22 |
Techrights-sec | Most say 5 year warranty, at least the ones I've bought | Aug 09 07:23 |
Techrights-sec | It's probably a warranty for being able to plug it in, not data loss | Aug 09 07:23 |
schestowitz-TR | ACK, thanks! | Aug 09 07:23 |
schestowitz-TR | I want to share some background info on something, which approaches resolution now | Aug 09 07:23 |
schestowitz | Issuing rude and threatening messages isn't helpful while I do disaster recovery (D-R) and many other things at the same time. | Aug 09 07:24 |
schestowitz | It only worsen things. Best to switch off as timing isn't urgent, then prioritise accordingly. This is not urgent. We can all calm down. I didn't say anything rude. I just focused on what mattered most. | Aug 09 07:24 |
schestowitz | I will be super-busy this month and next month there's a sort deadline for the above-mentioned naturalisation. I'm not interested in bickering; it's not compatible with my mood. Calm down, be patient, and we will figure things out. | Aug 09 07:24 |
schestowitz | By the way, phoning and messaging xxxx like this is what xxxx did to xxxxx, causing her to get all uncomfortable as an adolescent no less. Don't stoop down to this level please. | Aug 09 07:24 |
schestowitz | We need to use a more secure communication channels. This one, Hotmail, is monitoring by Microsoft (they got caught snooping for purely business reasons in violation of basic rights) and most other "apps" are also not confidential. That's why they're only even used by me for banal talk like football, not much personal stuff. | Aug 09 07:24 |
schestowitz | To be clear, leaving my job would be about focusing on my own projects, not sitting idly doing nothing or drinking any alcohol (no time for that). There seems to be an unfortunate misunderstanding about that. | Aug 09 07:24 |
schestowitz | Anyway, we'll talk soon. Relax, it'll be fine. | Aug 09 07:24 |
schestowitz-TR | ---- | Aug 09 07:24 |
schestowitz-TR | we seem to have ruffled some feathers with our plan, which person c told b and maybe a about | Aug 09 07:24 |
schestowitz-TR | ---- | Aug 09 07:33 |
schestowitz-TR | one thing I found was, people are unable to grasp people's choices that are not like them, so they start attacking and stuff | Aug 09 07:33 |
schestowitz-TR | this reminds me of a person (unnamed) who said RMS was attacked tro viciously because people were unable to come to grips with how he lived his life in freedom without | Aug 09 07:33 |
schestowitz-TR | having to get all stressed about mortgages and without using GAFAM etc... or getting bossed by pricks | Aug 09 07:33 |
schestowitz-TR | BTW, in IRC some days ago I posted a link to a video of him in Frnace this summer. He hair is all grey/white, but his skin seems OK and his French seems | Aug 09 07:33 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 09 07:33 |
schestowitz-TR | good though I cannot understand what he says. In recent years I saw books saying "French" at his back, so he keeps on top | Aug 09 07:34 |
schestowitz-TR | I did not do anything with this video as Francophonies are a very narrow audience for us | Aug 09 07:34 |
schestowitz-TR | (not compring MYSELF to RMS, just saying this situation reminded me of that comment) | Aug 09 07:34 |
schestowitz-TR | having said all this,s eeing how seldom FSF publishes somrthing of sunstance (not just announcing date and time for Libera.Cancel "event") and how little | Aug 09 07:34 |
schestowitz-TR | RMS talks (and how soft his stance is), I realise that both were defranged, and I think the 'sock doctrine' left tem paralysed, afriad that soemthinfg they | Aug 09 07:34 |
schestowitz-TR | say or do might lead to a THIRD attack (Sept 2019, March-April 2021...) | Aug 09 07:34 |
schestowitz-TR | they should have responded more firmly the first time around | Aug 09 07:34 |
schestowitz-TR | if RMS had not "stepped down" in 2019, there would be no second or third | Aug 09 07:34 |
schestowitz-TR | he'd still be preseident, not giving a flying f* | Aug 09 07:34 |
schestowitz-TR | btw, he did want to become president again (reliable source), but after the second attack decided to leave things at that | Aug 09 07:34 |
schestowitz-TR | draft | Aug 09 07:37 |
schestowitz-TR | i mention in the video one day we might add documentdrop (we tried on centos; also tried a germany equiv) | Aug 09 07:37 |
schestowitz-TR | not a priority for now | Aug 09 07:37 |
Techrights-sec | checking | Aug 09 07:38 |
Techrights-sec | if it is relevant, it would be important to mention that the quantity-over- | Aug 09 07:38 |
Techrights-sec | -quality is harmful and defeats the purpose of a patent office which, | Aug 09 07:38 |
Techrights-sec | as from IRC, is about weeding out bad patents at the application level | Aug 09 07:38 |
Techrights-sec | passing that on to the courts merely to skim money burdens the courts | Aug 09 07:38 |
Techrights-sec | unnecessarily and obviates the need for a patent office even. | Aug 09 07:38 |
schestowitz-TR | added para with your witty observation | Aug 09 07:42 |
Techrights-sec | thanks | Aug 09 07:51 |
schestowitz-TR | today's IRC post left out the IPFS stuff. Did the script not manage to retrieve it? | Aug 09 08:10 |
schestowitz-TR | Just checking to ensure it worked correctly | Aug 09 08:10 |
schestowitz-TR | with ipfs working OK again I'll likely enhance TR on top of it ;-) | Aug 09 08:47 |
schestowitz-TR | WTF! Switzerland and Finland now doing rolling blackouts? Now due to weather? Insane. World's (among) richest and "happiest"... brownouts due to weather and power | Aug 09 08:47 |
schestowitz-TR | rationing. This is considered normal now? What next, water rationing? Overpopulation does play a role in this. Of course the rich companies, e.g. AWS/Amazon, | Aug 09 08:47 |
schestowitz-TR | will be exempted, so there will be more monopolies too (marketing point: "we're exempt from rationing") | Aug 09 08:47 |
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schestowitz | Might be worth inserting something like <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Tux Machines RSS" href="http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/feed" /> to all TM pages | Aug 09 10:50 |
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Techrights-sec | checking IPFS part of the IRC script | Aug 09 12:09 |
Techrights-sec | """ | Aug 09 12:09 |
Techrights-sec | Checking remote server for IPFS logs. | Aug 09 12:09 |
Techrights-sec | cat: /home/links/ipfs/220808.html: No such file or director | Aug 09 12:09 |
Techrights-sec | """ | Aug 09 12:09 |
Techrights-sec | the new sysem does not have the requisite files, though the ones from the other | Aug 09 12:09 |
Techrights-sec | days have been there. Were they uploaded? | Aug 09 12:09 |
Techrights-sec | $ ls /home/links/ipfs/ | Aug 09 12:09 |
Techrights-sec | 220806.html 220807.html output.txt | Aug 09 12:09 |
Techrights-sec | Yes, an alternate link would be a good idea. | Aug 09 12:09 |
schestowitz[TR2] | > | Aug 09 12:10 |
schestowitz[TR2] | cp: cannot create regular file '/home/links/ipfs/220808.html': Permission denied | Aug 09 12:10 |
schestowitz[TR2] | something was changed since yesterday | Aug 09 12:10 |
schestowitz-TR | I think you changed groups or permissions, not sure what you changed | Aug 09 12:56 |
schestowitz-TR | in other news, rianne and I were using the DB locks today | Aug 09 12:56 |
schestowitz-TR | she was baffled at first | Aug 09 12:56 |
schestowitz-TR | until I explained to her what had happened | Aug 09 12:56 |
schestowitz-TR | all in all it worked well | Aug 09 12:56 |
schestowitz-TR | put me on hold till she finished/finalised | Aug 09 12:56 |
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schestowitz-TR | a) multitasking too much atm | Aug 09 13:12 |
schestowitz-TR | b) told marius to try posting | Aug 09 13:12 |
schestowitz-TR | c)nearly done cloning none | Aug 09 13:12 |
schestowitz-TR | *now | Aug 09 13:12 |
schestowitz-TR | d) will posign Daily Links soon | Aug 09 13:12 |
schestowitz-TR | e) tryint to focus purely on the sites atm | Aug 09 13:12 |
schestowitz-TR | f) permissions issue is the ipfs user tying to access that dir in links | Aug 09 13:12 |
schestowitz-TR | g) windows share falling shortpy, will writ eabout this later | Aug 09 13:12 |
schestowitz-TR | h) will start ipfs running from home again after cloning, at a minimal capacity | Aug 09 13:12 |
schestowitz-TR | i) want to do some ipfs enhancements now that it works like it did back when it was very small | Aug 09 13:12 |
schestowitz-TR | brb | Aug 09 13:12 |
Techrights-sec | which account? the permissions were 0777, which was very bad, the groups | Aug 09 13:13 |
Techrights-sec | can be used to write if the speciall account is not used | Aug 09 13:13 |
schestowitz-TR | 0777 was a temporarily hack | Aug 09 13:14 |
schestowitz-TR | hence I told you about it | Aug 09 13:14 |
schestowitz-TR | as I want to do permissions properly on the new machine | Aug 09 13:15 |
schestowitz-TR | but just needed something temporary to write the files | Aug 09 13:15 |
schestowitz-TR | i removed make and gcc from that machine after using them | Aug 09 13:15 |
schestowitz-TR | i might remove more packages if we add them | Aug 09 13:15 |
schestowitz-TR | I think I yold you about every single package I had added | Aug 09 13:15 |
Techrights-sec | having the 0777 permisions /blocked/ SSH / | Aug 09 13:15 |
Techrights-sec | Rsync / SFTP from the account | Aug 09 13:15 |
schestowitz-TR | I think we need to add a group | Aug 09 13:16 |
schestowitz-TR | adding the accounts that need access to links | Aug 09 13:16 |
Techrights-sec | ok | Aug 09 13:16 |
Techrights-sec | which account should be added to the group? | Aug 09 13:16 |
Techrights-sec | there is a dedicated account, but 'roy' can be added | Aug 09 13:16 |
schestowitz-TR | brb, will come back after daily links | Aug 09 13:17 |
schestowitz-TR | to avoid making mistakes | Aug 09 13:17 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 09 13:17 |
schestowitz-TR | yesterrdqay we found another very nearby store that had some good discounts and there are two more plances near us that can ship the parcel outwards | Aug 09 13:18 |
schestowitz-TR | but that's OT for now | Aug 09 13:18 |
schestowitz-TR | we'll be out for a long time tomorrow as it is 31 degrees here | Aug 09 13:18 |
Techrights-sec | excellent that there are so many choices | Aug 09 13:19 |
Techrights-sec | hot! | Aug 09 13:19 |
schestowitz-TR | yesterday I fixed some cross-account per issues on the pi | Aug 09 13:22 |
schestowitz-TR | that's one of the reasons want a complete clone | Aug 09 13:22 |
schestowitz-TR | to replicate and maintain the same relation between accounts and their permissions | Aug 09 13:22 |
schestowitz-TR | set aside system binaries and such | Aug 09 13:22 |
schestowitz-TR | /home is not enough | Aug 09 13:22 |
schestowitz-TR | there's lots more inc. crontab | Aug 09 13:22 |
schestowitz-TR | on the new system we'll have some more accounts to contain certain programs like irc bots | Aug 09 13:22 |
schestowitz-TR | so that nothing runs as root | Aug 09 13:22 |
schestowitz-TR | some of thewse programs need to write to public_html | Aug 09 13:22 |
schestowitz-TR | so getting the relationship right will be crucial | Aug 09 13:22 |
schestowitz-TR | to avoid clutter later | Aug 09 13:22 |
schestowitz-TR | and I'm usualyl too lazxy (sorry) and implement quikck dirty hacks | Aug 09 13:22 |
schestowitz-TR | I'm the same in the kiutchen | Aug 09 13:22 |
Techrights-sec | the 0777 permissions are incompatible with SSH / Rsync / SFTP access. That's | Aug 09 13:25 |
Techrights-sec | how they were noticed | Aug 09 13:25 |
Techrights-sec | anyway if the 'links' acccount is not used, then | Aug 09 13:25 |
Techrights-sec | a new group can be used for that directory. | Aug 09 13:25 |
Techrights-sec | setting the ACLs for group write | Aug 09 13:25 |
schestowitz-TR | finalising daily links now so I can do articles :-) | Aug 09 13:26 |
schestowitz-TR | fell asleep on the chair twice already | Aug 09 13:26 |
Techrights-sec | :) | Aug 09 13:26 |
Techrights-sec | enough excercise? | Aug 09 13:26 |
schestowitz-TR | stairs | Aug 09 13:26 |
schestowitz-TR | but not enough, not as much as I'd like | Aug 09 13:26 |
Techrights-sec | maybe at some point the accoun for IPFS can be changes to something more | Aug 09 13:34 |
Techrights-sec | mnemonic | Aug 09 13:34 |
schestowitz-TR | yes, but I took into account some necessary rewrites hang on, finalising daily links.. | Aug 09 13:35 |
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schestowitz-TR | what other objects can be added to ipfs or | Aug 09 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | how can ipfs be leveraged to our advantage | Aug 09 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | for gemini I doubt we need it | Aug 09 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | I still host it from home OK | Aug 09 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | we could intheory host it from two places at once | Aug 09 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | but no perceivable advantage atm | Aug 09 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | the ipfs account is not only for ipfs, just mostly for that | Aug 09 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | it is also where the belletins and large irc files reside | Aug 09 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | with consistent account name on home machine and DC machine | Aug 09 13:47 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 09 13:48 |
schestowitz-TR | kk | Aug 09 13:48 |
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schestowitz-TR | pi backu complete | Aug 09 14:46 |
schestowitz-TR | stored away | Aug 09 14:46 |
schestowitz-TR | hould work ok afaik | Aug 09 14:46 |
schestowitz-TR | working on ipfs irc bots atm | Aug 09 14:46 |
schestowitz-TR | might create another user account on TR-new | Aug 09 14:46 |
schestowitz-TR | -- | Aug 09 14:51 |
schestowitz-TR | draft | Aug 09 14:51 |
schestowitz-TR | commented out about 10 lines in home ipfs setup | Aug 09 14:51 |
schestowitz-TR | that'll get it running without generating anything new | Aug 09 14:51 |
schestowitz-TR | it'll also yield stats | Aug 09 14:52 |
schestowitz-TR | I don't think the server side needs to interact with irc, but it does need to send up-to-date list of hashes to the pi for gemini | Aug 09 14:52 |
schestowitz-TR | for now, TR-new has nothing WWW-public-facing | Aug 09 14:52 |
schestowitz-TR | I want to create another account, gemini, for ssh access from the gemini account | Aug 09 14:52 |
Techrights-sec | checking | Aug 09 14:52 |
Techrights-sec | what would it read or write | Aug 09 14:52 |
schestowitz-TR | ipfs would write to it things, for now a list of hashes | Aug 09 14:53 |
schestowitz-TR | the pi would read that over ssh | Aug 09 14:53 |
schestowitz-TR | in the future there might be more bits to read/write | Aug 09 14:53 |
schestowitz-TR | but account will be just for access from the pi/gemini | Aug 09 14:53 |
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Techrights-sec | would sftp-only work then? | Aug 09 14:55 |
Techrights-sec | that would allow transfer of files and such wihout | Aug 09 14:56 |
Techrights-sec | needing to permit access to any other part of the file system | Aug 09 14:56 |
Techrights-sec | because on the RPi, gemini runs some network facing daemon(s) | Aug 09 14:57 |
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schestowitz-TR | mini | Aug 09 14:58 |
schestowitz-TR | I have another idea | Aug 09 14:58 |
schestowitz-TR | write to it but still no access to it | Aug 09 14:59 |
schestowitz-TR | until we have www server running | Aug 09 14:59 |
schestowitz-TR | in which case we can curl or wget the content | Aug 09 14:59 |
schestowitz-TR | and allow access to the same over http/s | Aug 09 14:59 |
schestowitz-TR | I'll create an account, gemini | Aug 09 14:59 |
schestowitz-TR | and then I will also test access to links | Aug 09 14:59 |
Techrights-sec | ok | Aug 09 14:59 |
schestowitz-TR | account created | Aug 09 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | placeholder with permissions for ipfs | Aug 09 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | testing now, ttwo tests in one, links and gemini | Aug 09 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | due to testing, for the time being I run this job manually, so your files won't be ready until I run the job | Aug 09 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | all the changes I made to scripts are intentionally minimal, so nothing to push upstream | Aug 09 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | as I don't want to split the 'codebase' | Aug 09 15:11 |
Techrights-sec | ok | Aug 09 15:11 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 09 15:11 |
Techrights-sec | yep works with my script | Aug 09 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | diff'ing is easy, usually just commented out line of reused stuff | Aug 09 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | try now to get the file from /home/links/ipfs | Aug 09 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | to see if the permissions are suitable for your consumption from your end | Aug 09 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | OK, one last run, it seems to work now | Aug 09 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | I'll wait for the TR-new machine to have www open port and webserver software, then I can retrieve the file for the pi | Aug 09 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | or... I can just grab it over ssh/ftp instead of waiting | Aug 09 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | it's just that the web approach gives me options | Aug 09 15:14 |
schestowitz-TR | /s/me/more/ | Aug 09 15:14 |
Techrights-sec | sftp tr-new:/home/links/ipfs/$(date +"%y%m%d.html") | Aug 09 15:15 |
Techrights-sec | sftp -i ~/.ssh/tr-new ipfs.techrights.org:/home/links/ipfs/$(date -d '-1 day' +'%y%m%d.html') | Aug 09 15:20 |
schestowitz-TR | date not needed as it's a fixed named file | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | I've just rsynced the file manually | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | to be honst, this is just the gemini mirror for ipfs | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | and not many people use that | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | so nightly updates are likely not required | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | I've just put a script in ~gemini/bin | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | a one liner to refresh the hashesd | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | *hashes | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | they're not up to date | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | *now | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | I'm going to cron the ipfs update for 3am | Aug 09 15:30 |
Techrights-sec | I spent some time looking at kde-plasma-desktop dependencies using Gephi earlier | Aug 09 15:30 |
Techrights-sec | excellent | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | done | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | so ipfs for TR runs from two nodes now | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | and one is more verbose | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | one does the heavy lifting | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | best of both worlds | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | also, one is home-hosted | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | underpowered in the blockchains networked sense | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | has tiny pipes connecting it to the mrkle tree | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | *merkle | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | better than none at all though | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | DHT traffic can be criculated by it | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | mapping the route to the datacentre | Aug 09 15:30 |
schestowitz-TR | I'm no systemd-free expert, BUT.. | Aug 09 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | I know more than most | Aug 09 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | Gentoo does not depend on systemd and it has a KDE Plasma5 desktop | Aug 09 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | so you know it is doable | Aug 09 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | but I don't know the process | Aug 09 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | Debian 10 with Plasma5, what rianne and I use (Debian 11 is only on our pis), is loaded with many systemd programs | Aug 09 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | it wopuld be nice is more debian devs started defecting to devuan | Aug 09 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | and in the process bury some of the bad reputation of late | Aug 09 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | iirc, they're binary-compatible??? | Aug 09 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | like, you can poind the repos elsewhere and it would retrieve the right things? | Aug 09 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | though it seems hard to believe if it looks for particular services | Aug 09 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | non-standard | Aug 09 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | afaik, the programs just make system calls | Aug 09 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | they don't make assumptions like systemd being there | Aug 09 15:33 |
Techrights-sec | doable, for now, it depends on the trajectory the KDE developers are choosing | Aug 09 15:35 |
Techrights-sec | Devuan mainly mirrors the Debian repositories, except for the specific | Aug 09 15:35 |
Techrights-sec | packages which have been infected with systemd and have had to be replaced | Aug 09 15:35 |
Techrights-sec | with modified versions | Aug 09 15:35 |
Techrights-sec | libc6 is by far the most central dependency | Aug 09 15:36 |
Techrights-sec | that's not much of a surprise though | Aug 09 15:36 |
schestowitz-TR | many progs depend on something that depends on c | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | btw, jaromil is miles more porincipled than DPLs of recent years | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | the GRs process of Debian is based on the assumption modern "democracies" are based on | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | a) the voter is well oifnrormed | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | b) the voter is not funded by or WORKS for some company like Gulag | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | if you say Devuan makes life easier with reuse, then maybe there can be a fusion down the line | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | that accomplishes a multi-mophemism for Debian | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | like they had not just for archs but also Debian GNU/BSD | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | except a systemd-free version | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | for multiple archs | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | jaromil wants to think devuan will be adopted by debian at least as an option | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | then the user can actuallyh decice and I sense many would opt for the non-systemd download | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | red hat and microsoft both flounder anyway | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | 2030: github removes systemd for lack of activity ;-0 (poking fun by gitLAB) | Aug 09 15:41 |
Techrights-sec | a) has been made impossible through decades of slashed educational budgets, | Aug 09 15:41 |
Techrights-sec | media consolidation, and social control media | Aug 09 15:41 |
schestowitz-TR | if it's of any solace, as I noted a few times in irc today, social control media has a trend | Aug 09 15:43 |
schestowitz-TR | a | Aug 09 15:43 |
schestowitz-TR | shapr downward trned | Aug 09 15:43 |
schestowitz-TR | the whole lot | Aug 09 15:43 |
schestowitz-TR | even mastodom and diaspora | Aug 09 15:43 |
schestowitz-TR | people lost interest | Aug 09 15:43 |
schestowitz-TR | and it'\s reverse network effect | Aug 09 15:43 |
schestowitz-TR | my friends left | Aug 09 15:43 |
schestowitz-TR | I get not much engagement anymore | Aug 09 15:43 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe I too should focus on IRL | Aug 09 15:43 |
schestowitz-TR | IRL friends, not 'friends' | Aug 09 15:43 |
Techrights-sec | good, social control media is far too destructive for society and, specifically, | Aug 09 15:44 |
Techrights-sec | for democracy. There is no safe level of exposure, and those goes double for | Aug 09 15:44 |
Techrights-sec | individual health and well-being. | Aug 09 15:44 |
Techrights-sec | s/those/that/ | Aug 09 15:44 |
schestowitz-TR | you also know DDG feels the pinch now | Aug 09 15:47 |
schestowitz-TR | Startpage you hardly hear of anymore | Aug 09 15:47 |
schestowitz-TR | yesterday while shaving I found a 30-min video about an article I wrote about them | Aug 09 15:47 |
schestowitz-TR | the guy who made it also assumed DDG was "privacy" | Aug 09 15:47 |
schestowitz-TR | lots of paid-for endorsements (lies) | Aug 09 15:47 |
schestowitz-TR | and he was a Linux guy | Aug 09 15:47 |
schestowitz-TR | Tor, Mint, Qute Browser... Microsoft pays them via DDG... to lie to us and spread our legs/buttcheecks | Aug 09 15:47 |
schestowitz-TR | with "bands"... hashtags... reminds me of how slack misappropirated "slackware" | Aug 09 15:47 |
schestowitz-TR | DDG: we're all GEEKS.... or... a front group for the anti-geeks company | Aug 09 15:47 |
Techrights-sec | there was name confusion there and I am 100% sure that it was the main reason | Aug 09 15:47 |
Techrights-sec | it rode to popularity. Managers, knowing nothing, would ask their staff | Aug 09 15:47 |
Techrights-sec | what do they think of "Slack" and of course they would respond positively | Aug 09 15:47 |
Techrights-sec | without realizing they were talking of two different things | Aug 09 15:47 |
Techrights-sec | DDG is trying to spin its way out of its current situation | Aug 09 15:53 |
schestowitz | now down to nearly 8.xx% http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/turkey-windows/ | Aug 09 15:57 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | When Windows is Down to 9% market Share | Techrights | Aug 09 15:57 | |
schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/Dewix888/status/1556951125349253122#m | Aug 09 16:01 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-DM (@Dewix888): "That perception of lack of professionalism was promoted by Microsoft as a means delegitimizing Linux & OSS as a whole. http://techrights.org/2019/11/09/christian-ude-on-microsoft/"|nitter.it | Aug 09 16:01 | |
schestowitz-TR | does the xml feed of TM gemini need a lot more work? | Aug 09 16:01 |
schestowitz-TR | I saw that in git | Aug 09 16:01 |
schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/yuhong2/status/1556837830109777920#m | Aug 09 16:02 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Yuhong Bao (@yuhong2): "Did you just crawl it or did you have to ask Techrights for permission?"|nitter.it | Aug 09 16:02 | |
schestowitz-TR | Microsoft troll/shill | Aug 09 16:03 |
Techrights-sec | Google ads? | Aug 09 16:14 |
Techrights-sec | oh | Aug 09 16:14 |
schestowitz-TR | shane put some google ads in 2006 | Aug 09 16:14 |
schestowitz-TR | and this Microsoft troll keeps bringing this up even in 2022 | Aug 09 16:14 |
schestowitz-TR | ignore, I'm pretty sure he's connected to Microsoft | Aug 09 16:14 |
schestowitz-TR | he also trolled out IRC channels several times | Aug 09 16:14 |
schestowitz-TR | but esp. comments | Aug 09 16:14 |
Techrights-sec | both nitter feeds were from a-holes | Aug 09 16:15 |
schestowitz-TR | I did not even check the context, it's like doomscrolling | Aug 09 16:17 |
schestowitz-TR | a waste of time with shilling, falsehoods etc. | Aug 09 16:17 |
schestowitz-TR | the bill gates critics are banned already | Aug 09 16:17 |
schestowitz-TR | we wrote about him before, sod that, not worth the time ;-) | Aug 09 16:23 |
schestowitz-TR | anyway, I realise we're not building the two sites in parallel, having added ipfs and went on from there | Aug 09 16:23 |
schestowitz-TR | rianne does not want to download a gemini client to check tuxmachines | Aug 09 16:23 |
schestowitz-TR | she thinks it's for geeks, fair enough I guess | Aug 09 16:23 |
schestowitz-TR | just scanned gemini logs for TM, seems there are quite a few IPs and there are over 1k requests | Aug 09 16:30 |
schestowitz-TR | the reason I ask about a feed is, this can be submitted to capcom | Aug 09 16:30 |
schestowitz-TR | then the capsule gains some more visibility | Aug 09 16:30 |
schestowitz-TR | the feeds aid efficient crawling | Aug 09 16:30 |
Techrights-sec | It is possible to make an Atom feed for Gemini but the scripts options | Aug 09 16:31 |
Techrights-sec | need to be reworked to make sense. There are four choices http+atom, http+dl | Aug 09 16:31 |
Techrights-sec | gemini+atom, gemini+gemtext | Aug 09 16:31 |
Techrights-sec | checking | Aug 09 16:31 |
schestowitz-TR | tmix a -t logs on root@tm-new | Aug 09 16:34 |
schestowitz-TR | *tmux | Aug 09 16:34 |
schestowitz-TR | oh, I have just noticed nodes created by rianne do not show up in gemini, only mine | Aug 09 16:34 |
schestowitz-TR | surely some permission issue | Aug 09 16:34 |
schestowitz-TR | marius too needs that have that perm | Aug 09 16:34 |
schestowitz-TR | as he will likely start posting in the new site soon | Aug 09 16:34 |
schestowitz-TR | I was thinking last night how to prevent posting of new nodes in the old site | Aug 09 16:34 |
schestowitz-TR | one option is drupal permissions | Aug 09 16:34 |
schestowitz-TR | nobody but admin can add new nodes | Aug 09 16:34 |
schestowitz-TR | or modify any | Aug 09 16:34 |
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Techrights-sec | checking permissions for Gemini on tm-new | Aug 09 16:39 |
Techrights-sec | is she using the shell script wrappers and not the raw perl scripts? | Aug 09 16:39 |
schestowitz-TR | I think I got further insight now | Aug 09 16:40 |
schestowitz-TR | it's not that she cannot create these files | Aug 09 16:40 |
schestowitz-TR | they show up in the index | Aug 09 16:40 |
schestowitz-TR | but not accessible, I think, until it's me running a refresh | Aug 09 16:40 |
schestowitz-TR | afaik, she runs things the same way as me | Aug 09 16:40 |
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schestowitz | gemini://geminispace.info/newest-hosts | Aug 09 16:46 |
schestowitz | "2022-08-07: gemini.tuxmachines.org" | Aug 09 16:47 |
schestowitz | \0/ | Aug 09 16:47 |
Techrights-sec | ok the default permissions, in the ACL, for the group were off, EXT ACLs are | Aug 09 16:47 |
Techrights-sec | too complicated for what they do. It's sad that it has not improved over | Aug 09 16:47 |
Techrights-sec | the decades. | Aug 09 16:47 |
Techrights-sec | Anyway, she has write access now. | Aug 09 16:47 |
Techrights-sec | I hope, now I have to figure out the right notes to add. | Aug 09 16:47 |
schestowitz-TR | I was just about to give more debug info/steps to reproduce, but you've fixed it | Aug 09 16:47 |
schestowitz-TR | good stuff | Aug 09 16:47 |
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schestowitz-TR | so now you revceive push notifications for gemini updates you can check with ncurses/amfora | Aug 09 16:55 |
schestowitz-TR | I've note caught up fully with my feeds yet | Aug 09 16:55 |
schestowitz-TR | trying to make time for "projects" | Aug 09 16:55 |
schestowitz-TR | and today was super-productive so far | Aug 09 16:55 |
schestowitz-TR | soon the crawlkers, like lupa, will reach TM | Aug 09 16:55 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 09 16:55 |
Techrights-sec | gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/feed.xml | Aug 09 17:00 |
schestowitz-TR | excellent! I'm trying to think how to improve the front page, should I add some static pages or not yet? | Aug 09 17:03 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe a link to the XML, too? | Aug 09 17:03 |
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schestowitz-TR | looking at the diff... | Aug 09 17:06 |
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Techrights-sec | that is the XML feed | Aug 09 17:06 |
schestowitz-TR | No Microsoft/Windows/Apple/Mac sites in Geminispace | Aug 09 17:07 |
schestowitz-TR | W-E focuses on Wikipedia, WWW, and bribed officials | Aug 09 17:07 |
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Techrights-sec | for now. the world need to take as much advantage of that lead as it can | Aug 09 17:11 |
schestowitz-TR | conman (conner) writes about osUx sometimes | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | but he seldom write anything, usually just one para | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | a lot of gemini "content" us UNIX and GNU/Linux... IPFS... Gemini itself | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | DeVault complained, but Techrights actually produces a lot in Gemini that's not about Gemini | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | I've checked latency for the gemini:// requests and https proxy | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | it's not too bad, even with throttling (iptables) and ipfs turned on | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | the capsule updates OK | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | with ipfs in the background | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | because you coded re-attempted for timeouts | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | I don't supposer many people run ipfs both froma vps and from home | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | just did a lot of stress-testing on the capsule | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | btw, "logs" session in TM-new is now split view for www and gemini | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | going to go upstairs now to explain the process better | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | in theory the gemproxy of techrights.org could be modified to permit gemini.tm as well | Aug 09 17:20 |
schestowitz-TR | but I realise it was custom-made for particular kinds of pages | Aug 09 17:21 |
Techrights-sec | there is now a link to the Atom feed at the bottom of the Gemini index | Aug 09 17:35 |
Techrights-sec | yes the proxy is custom made for the quirks present in TR and would not work | Aug 09 17:35 |
Techrights-sec | well if at all with TM | Aug 09 17:35 |
schestowitz-TR | rianne is already passing the mock exams very easily | Aug 09 17:35 |
Techrights-sec | excellent | Aug 09 17:35 |
schestowitz-TR | just showing her all the features of the capsule now | Aug 09 17:58 |
schestowitz-TR | lagrange parses the xml correctly | Aug 09 17:58 |
schestowitz-TR | the urls in the feed are page not found ^_^ | Aug 09 17:58 |
schestowitz-TR | but I know it's not yet tested much | Aug 09 17:58 |
schestowitz-TR | is my push going to be automatically pulled from TM? maybe you got notification of the change just now | Aug 09 17:58 |
Techrights-sec | checking | Aug 09 17:58 |
Techrights-sec | ok they work now ;) | Aug 09 17:58 |
Techrights-sec | 6f740330b98e54b0facb4a6b6e45189a899539a6 ? | Aug 09 17:58 |
Techrights-sec | bb1394dcaa6c40aa4a54707b38432d22b3f3d943 ? | Aug 09 17:58 |
Techrights-sec | yes the notifications all come in while connected | Aug 09 17:58 |
schestowitz-TR | 033 at the end | Aug 09 18:00 |
schestowitz-TR | I've just tested the file updates ok, 50 past every hour | Aug 09 18:00 |
schestowitz-TR | assuming the index itself updates | Aug 09 18:00 |
Techrights-sec | see /home/git/hooks/update instead | Aug 09 18:02 |
Techrights-sec | for Git | Aug 09 18:02 |
Techrights-sec | and /usr/local/bin/refresh... for the gemtext | Aug 09 18:02 |
schestowitz-TR | if I su - git | Aug 09 18:07 |
schestowitz-TR | it drops me into interactive git mode | Aug 09 18:07 |
schestowitz-TR | should I run update as root? tuxmachines? roy? | Aug 09 18:07 |
Techrights-sec | the /home/git/hooks/update runs as Git when the repostitory gets changed | Aug 09 18:07 |
Techrights-sec | su -c '/home/git/hooks/update' -s /bin/sh git | Aug 09 18:11 |
Techrights-sec | would be one way to test it | Aug 09 18:11 |
Techrights-sec | /usr/local/bin/refresh-site-from-db.sh gets run manually and | Aug 09 18:11 |
Techrights-sec | should call all the related scripts etc | Aug 09 18:11 |
Techrights-sec | for the XHTML and Gemtext documents | Aug 09 18:11 |
schestowitz-TR | ok, so in that case, having just run it, I am guessing my push has not been incorporated into the bin dir | Aug 09 18:11 |
Techrights-sec | oh. that transfer has to happen manually | Aug 09 18:15 |
Techrights-sec | su -c 'cd /var/www/tuxmachines.org/; git pull origin master' -s /bin/sh git | Aug 09 18:15 |
Techrights-sec | cp /var/www/tuxmachines.org/bin/tm-generate-feed.pl /usr/local/bin/ | Aug 09 18:15 |
Techrights-sec | for example | Aug 09 18:15 |
schestowitz-TR | I've pulled and then copied the file | Aug 09 18:23 |
schestowitz-TR | it's not reachable, maybe copies with wrong permissions? | Aug 09 18:23 |
schestowitz-TR | ok, fixed | Aug 09 18:23 |
schestowitz-TR | with a second push | Aug 09 18:23 |
schestowitz-TR | I think this one executable is not in the path | Aug 09 18:23 |
schestowitz-TR | but nested under other executables | Aug 09 18:23 |
schestowitz-TR | as autocomplete did not show it | Aug 09 18:23 |
schestowitz-TR | lewis did an article about how azure made ddos far too east | Aug 09 18:30 |
schestowitz-TR | never mind breaches | Aug 09 18:30 |
schestowitz-TR | you can have like 100 million attempts at passwords each year | Aug 09 18:30 |
schestowitz-TR | never mind the back doors | Aug 09 18:30 |
schestowitz-TR | yesterday psydroid wrote about how, according to dutch media, 120 dental clinics shut down due to "ransomware" | Aug 09 18:30 |
schestowitz-TR | obv. windos | Aug 09 18:30 |
Techrights-sec | Windows TCO | Aug 09 18:44 |
Techrights-sec | the media gloss over it, every time | Aug 09 18:44 |
schestowitz-TR | satam says, man who pays for windows, loses all teeth | Aug 09 18:44 |
schestowitz-TR | country that buys windows, becomes toothless | Aug 09 18:44 |
schestowitz-TR | *satan | Aug 09 18:44 |
schestowitz-TR | **satya nutella... as bnchs calls him | Aug 09 18:44 |
schestowitz-TR | pointing this out is like kicking a puppy, chonchu know? | Aug 09 18:44 |
schestowitz-TR | *donchu | Aug 09 18:44 |
Techrights-sec | I don't get how M$ can have the gall to compare themselve to something either | Aug 09 18:45 |
Techrights-sec | as small or as harmless as a puppy, as it has demonstrated every day for decades | Aug 09 18:45 |
Techrights-sec | that it is neither | Aug 09 18:45 |
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schestowitz-TR | at that time James was already married to Sheela Microsoft | Aug 09 18:47 |
schestowitz-TR | this puppy brings a big paycheck home | Aug 09 18:47 |
schestowitz-TR | as "CHIEF REVENUE OFFICER" | Aug 09 18:47 |
schestowitz-TR | whatever that iws | Aug 09 18:47 |
schestowitz-TR | not CFO | Aug 09 18:47 |
Techrights-sec | spotted yet another bug in the Gemini feed.xml :/ | Aug 09 18:47 |
schestowitz-TR | "REVENUE OFFICER" | Aug 09 18:47 |
schestowitz-TR | I pronnounce you, man and Microsoft | Aug 09 18:47 |
Techrights-sec | it seems that 'type="text/html"' might be hardcoded in that module | Aug 09 19:02 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe you can pass it through sed? | Aug 09 19:03 |
Techrights-sec | no, there is more capability within the perl script, its just a question | Aug 09 19:07 |
Techrights-sec | of how much time ought to be invested in a work-around how/if it could be | Aug 09 19:07 |
Techrights-sec | fixed upstream | Aug 09 19:07 |
Techrights-sec | The press consists of Murdoch and the cronies of Gates and the other politicians | Aug 09 19:18 |
schestowitz-TR | I saw that | Aug 09 19:18 |
schestowitz-TR | it's all partisan | Aug 09 19:18 |
schestowitz-TR | "election deniers" | Aug 09 19:18 |
schestowitz-TR | see my remarks in irc | Aug 09 19:18 |
schestowitz-TR | this sort of press needs to die, in a fire... | Aug 09 19:18 |
schestowitz-TR | --- | Aug 09 19:20 |
schestowitz-TR | if the gates mansion got raided | Aug 09 19:20 |
schestowitz-TR | the media would quote cranks and spin the whole thing as just conspiracy theries | Aug 09 19:20 |
schestowitz-TR | and nothing to worry about | Aug 09 19:20 |
schestowitz-TR | certainly a mistake | Aug 09 19:20 |
Techrights-sec | yep the well has been poisoned quite in advance of such an eventuality | Aug 09 19:20 |
schestowitz-TR | "people shout at me in the streets" | Aug 09 19:22 |
schestowitz-TR | (billBC) | Aug 09 19:22 |
schestowitz-TR | many layoffs | Aug 09 19:29 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe some pre-emptive | Aug 09 19:29 |
schestowitz-TR | like team leaders | Aug 09 19:29 |
schestowitz-TR | I won't miss them | Aug 09 19:29 |
schestowitz-TR | bad orgs need to fail and get scuttled | Aug 09 19:29 |
schestowitz-TR | inc. LinuxToday in light of what it's doing this month | Aug 09 19:29 |
Techrights-sec | Aren't there major resgnations going on at the BBC, or have I misread? | Aug 09 19:29 |
schestowitz-TR | + # kludge for XML::Feed's hardcoded MIME Types | Aug 09 19:34 |
schestowitz-TR | + # this is brittle | Aug 09 19:34 |
schestowitz-TR | + my $f = $feed->as_xml; | Aug 09 19:34 |
schestowitz-TR | + $f =~ s|^(\s*<link [^>]+) (type="text/html")|$1 text="text/gemini"|gm; | Aug 09 19:34 |
schestowitz-TR | + | Aug 09 19:34 |
schestowitz-TR | + return($f); | Aug 09 19:34 |
schestowitz-TR | } | Aug 09 19:34 |
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Techrights-sec | yep, rather than spawning a shell and sed, the substitution occurs within perl | Aug 09 21:24 |
Techrights-sec | script. More can be done later but for now that work-around changes the | Aug 09 21:24 |
Techrights-sec | MIME Type | Aug 09 21:24 |
Techrights-sec | re: linux today, see PXE from Comes v M$ about killing Mac conferences | Aug 09 21:24 |
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schestowitz-TR | This post is about Microsoft and about Windows. But it does not mention either "Microsoft" or "Windows". Typical CISA. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/08/09/cisa-adds-two-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog | Aug 09 22:29 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | CISA Adds Two Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA | Aug 09 22:29 | |
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