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schestowitz-TRI think we need a lockfile for the monitoring script to make it singletonNov 10 10:14
schestowitz-TRRunning it in two places at the same time can cause some minor issuesNov 10 10:14
Techrights-secAck.  flock(1) can do that.Nov 10 10:39
Techrights-sec:0Nov 10 10:39
Techrights-sec:wNov 10 10:39
Techrights-secoops, vi.Nov 10 10:39
Techrights-secTry the script now.  It will only allow 1 instance at a time Nov 10 10:39
schestowitz-TRthanks, I did not know about flockNov 10 10:39
Techrights-secnp.  Seems to work.  The first instance runs and any subsequent instances Nov 10 10:42
Techrights-secabort.  Maybe the abort message ought to go to stderr?Nov 10 10:42
schestowitz-TRas long as it's not generalised enough to be adopted by others (depends on growth of gemini), I think that level of care is premature :-)Nov 10 10:43
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Techrights-secSo I'll push the locking changes to Git now.Nov 10 10:48
Techrights-seca8f77a7..810d796Nov 10 10:48
schestowitz-TRexcellent. Today I'll try to produce more articles. yesterday's investment in gemini stuff was well worth it, the news was slow anywayNov 10 10:48
schestowitz-TRI want to ask,Nov 10 10:48
schestowitz-TRany point responding to the HPMS-WSL2 thing? Nov 10 10:49
schestowitz-TRGit feeling says, maybe gives attention to something better off ignored?Nov 10 10:49
Techrights-secContext link?Nov 10 10:52
Techrights-sechttps://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/11/09/2329981/0/en/HP-Powers-Real-Time-Collaboration-and-Co-CreationNov 10 10:53
Techrights-sec-for-High-Performance-Workflows.htmlNov 10 10:53
Techrights-secTHat?   It is probably some excuse for M$ to give money to HP to block GNU/LinuxNov 10 10:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/11/09/2329981/0/en/HP-Powers-Real-Time-Collaboration-and-Co-Creation )Nov 10 10:53
Techrights-sechttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=HP-Workstations-WSL2-PreloadNov 10 10:56
Techrights-secCleary a maneuver by M$ to block GNU/Linux at the manager level.  ManagersNov 10 10:56
-altlink_b2b/#boycottnovell-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: phoronix.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=HP-Workstations-WSL2-PreloadNov 10 10:56
Techrights-secare the target market for WSL and if it is ever to begin to gain traction,Nov 10 10:56
Techrights-secit will only be because the managers have imposed WSL like they have doneNov 10 10:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.phoronix.com | HP To Begin Pre-Loading WSL2 For Windows On Upcoming HP Workstations - PhoronixNov 10 10:56
Techrights-secbefore will all the other garbage, like Citrix etc.Nov 10 10:56
schestowitz-TRso worth doing article/video about, at risk of giving it more exposure/audience?Nov 10 10:56
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Techrights-secIf done carefully, yes.  But managers love all things M$ no matter howNov 10 11:01
Techrights-secunfit for the tasks the may be.  One approach might be to not name WSLNov 10 11:01
Techrights-secbut to find out about the money HP is obviously receiving from M$ and whatNov 10 11:01
Techrights-secconcessions and strings it entails.  Based on all past behavior, it is easyNov 10 11:01
Techrights-secto guess with high certainty that the goal is to block GNU/Linux pre-installedNov 10 11:01
Techrights-secmachines.  Note that you cannot wisely quote any of the above because WSL is mentioned in many sentence and omittingNov 10 11:01
Techrights-sec it will cause the sentences not to makeNov 10 11:01
Techrights-secsense.Nov 10 11:01
schestowitz-TRso, in short, you think like me on this. better to ignore and hope it doesn't have Linux googlebombed the rest of this weekNov 10 11:02
Techrights-secso Nov 10 11:06
Techrights-secYep.  It is bad enough in the search engines already.  You'll never find anythingNov 10 11:06
Techrights-secactually about "Linux" by searching for that term.  Likewise, you'll never Nov 10 11:06
Techrights-secfind anything for "OpenDocument" format by searching for any aspect of theNov 10 11:06
Techrights-secname unless searching for the standard number too (ISO/IEC 26300) but thenNov 10 11:06
Techrights-secwith the standard number you don't get any general audience material.Nov 10 11:06
schestowitz-TRthat started to happen around 2009, so I dropped the RSS feed/sNov 10 11:06
Techrights-secYes, but it is even more ridiculous nowadays.Nov 10 11:09
Techrights-sechttps://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1289861-hp-to-begin-pre-loading-wsl2-for-winNov 10 11:09
Techrights-secdows-on-upcoming-hp-workstationsNov 10 11:09
Techrights-secEmbrace, extend ...Nov 10 11:09
Techrights-secthird step coming soon.Nov 10 11:09
-altlink_b2b/#boycottnovell-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: phoronix.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1289861-hp-to-begin-pre-loading-wsl2-for-winNov 10 11:09
Techrights-sec"if microsoft really <3 linux like they claim, then why don't they contribute to wine?"Nov 10 11:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.phoronix.com | HP To Begin Pre-Loading WSL2 For Windows On Upcoming HP Workstations - Phoronix ForumsNov 10 11:09
schestowitz-TRyes, I quoted the comments earlierNov 10 11:09
Techrights-secI like Christine Hall's comment a while back.  It was that M$ loves Linux    Nov 10 11:11
Techrights-secin about the same way she loves chicken.Nov 10 11:11
Techrights-secM$ <3 Linux :: I <3 ChickenNov 10 11:11
schestowitz-TRshe reads techrights and tuxmachines. I think she got this analogy from there, but I'm happy with the sharing ;-)Nov 10 11:12
Techrights-secWhatever works :)Nov 10 11:13
schestowitz-TRshe became more independent now. Writes again in FOSSForce instead of shilling IBM in some sites that pay a salary.Nov 10 11:13
Techrights-secThat's a relief.  I can't imagine at what cost the shilling occurs, and INov 10 11:14
Techrights-secdon't mean financial costs...Nov 10 11:14
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schestowitz-TRI've managed to record a 30-min video about the HP thing without mentioning WSL even onceNov 10 14:45
Techrights-secexcellent.  it should not be named or even circumnavigated just omitted andNov 10 14:45
Techrights-secother topics focused on.Nov 10 14:45
schestowitz-TRwhat matters is the underlying concept, which will still be relevant decades later when the names changeNov 10 14:45
schestowitz-TRYes, the concept is paying HP to impair the use of GNU/Linux.Nov 10 14:50
schestowitz-TRI did mention that partNov 10 14:50
schestowitz-TRalso in the text, it's still processing/uploadingNov 10 14:50
Techrights-secYes, the concept is paying HP to impair the use of GNU/Linux.Nov 10 14:50
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