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schestowitz-TRrepairing dbJul 12 06:09
Techrights-sectm-generate-feed.pl -v -d 20220711 -s -b /var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/n/ -r /var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/Jul 12 06:09
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Techrights-sectm-generate-feed.pl -d 20220712 -s -b /var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/n/ -r /var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/ -x > /var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/latest-news.htmlJul 12 06:32
schestowitz-TRjust tried thatJul 12 06:33
schestowitz-TRalso finished repairing dbJul 12 06:33
schestowitz-TRthis time it was a lot of workJul 12 06:33
schestowitz-TRer really need to move the site soonJul 12 06:33
Techrights-secany word on the new VM ?Jul 12 06:34
schestowitz-TRI've just prodded again\Jul 12 06:38
schestowitz-TRgtg in a momentJul 12 06:38
schestowitz-TRI was posting links and doind 4 things at the same timeJul 12 06:38
schestowitz-TRinc. db repairJul 12 06:38
schestowitz-TRthen forgot my thought/one todo itemJul 12 06:38
schestowitz-TRnot a huge deal Jul 12 06:38
schestowitz-TRit was not criticalJul 12 06:38
schestowitz-TRI was also checking the TR backupsJul 12 06:38
schestowitz-TRalmost all of them are fineJul 12 06:38
schestowitz-TRalmostJul 12 06:38
Techrights-secit does two variations, one HTML one Atom/XML:Jul 12 06:38
Techrights-sectm-generate-feed.pl -d 20220712 -s -b /var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/n/ -r /varJul 12 06:38
Techrights-sec/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/ > /var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/feed.xmlmJul 12 06:38
Techrights-secokJul 12 06:38
Techrights-sec\Jul 12 06:38
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Techrights-secotr: probably a paid trollJul 12 08:38
schestowitz-TRwe seem to have a new troll in #techrightsJul 12 08:38
schestowitz-TRI am probing the motivations at the momentJul 12 08:38
schestowitz-TRdef. a troll, I can see now...Jul 12 08:39
schestowitz-TRwill try to handle without mutes, just ignoring/mocking (like herr sixel)Jul 12 08:39
schestowitz-TRyou can see scrollback if curiousJul 12 08:39
schestowitz-TRanyway, mjg is really under fireJul 12 08:39
schestowitz-TRand I don't have to lift a fingerJul 12 08:39
Techrights-secat least that is an improved situationJul 12 08:41
Techrights-secmjg helped cause the current situation which is now beginning to manifestJul 12 08:41
Techrights-seclenovo is the first of what will likely be manyJul 12 08:41
Techrights-secor allJul 12 08:41
schestowitz-TRas both dfc and I noted some hours ago in ircJul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRmjg silent...Jul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRhe wants to be seen as hero calling on lenovo to spot thisJul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRafter he did the damageJul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRi thinbk there is a term for this kind of behaviousJul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRlike you declare a warJul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRand then call for peaceJul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRf* fsf tbh, for somehow giving him an open door to board and awardJul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRhow the fuck it happened?Jul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRI think the corporate patronageJul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRmjg was their moleJul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRreminds me of eff shilling microsoft and giving AWARDS to the Microsoft privacy abusersJul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRso f* eff too!Jul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRthey\re not my frienbdsJul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRapropos, you saw what I wrote about phroonix 2 hours ago Jul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRf* him tooJul 12 08:45
schestowitz-TRamd = pluton, lenovo windows-onlyJul 12 08:45
Techrights-sec:(Jul 12 08:45
Techrights-secattention spans being what they are with most folks, it needs to be broughtJul 12 08:45
Techrights-secup again and again that he was integral in causing thisJul 12 08:45
Techrights-secif mjg joins deicaza or poettering, it would be no surprise.Jul 12 08:45
Techrights-secackJul 12 08:45
Techrights-sec:(Jul 12 08:45
Techrights-secattention spans being what they are with most folks, it needs to be broughtJul 12 08:46
Techrights-secup again and again that he was integral in causing thisJul 12 08:46
Techrights-secif mjg joins deicaza or poettering, it would be no surprise.Jul 12 08:46
Techrights-secackJul 12 08:46
schestowitz-TRcontrary to what microbell said last week, Mirosoft is NOT hiringJul 12 08:46
schestowitz-TRmaybe in exceptions it doesJul 12 08:46
schestowitz-TRI heard it from inside MicrosoftJul 12 08:46
schestowitz-TRthey're in painJul 12 08:46
schestowitz-TR----Jul 12 08:50
schestowitz-TRa) wait till CAs turns out to be the sameJul 12 08:50
schestowitz-TRb) same for sigstoreJul 12 08:50
schestowitz-TRI will have the last laugh!Jul 12 08:50
schestowitz-TRc) I try not to get angry over this, we wrote a lot on this subject alreadyJul 12 08:50
schestowitz-TRd) more EPO series coming later today, we have a LOT of good material about the "fucking president"Jul 12 08:50
schestowitz-TR---Jul 12 08:52
schestowitz-TRsocial control media is a flamestorm that can redirect anger in an instanceJul 12 08:52
schestowitz-TRand make activism hard becayuseJul 12 08:52
schestowitz-TR1) compsusreJul 12 08:52
schestowitz-TR2) focusJul 12 08:52
schestowitz-TR3) you start insulting and cursing at people instead of focusing on the issuesJul 12 08:52
schestowitz-TRnext company meeting in august, I just want colsure for this, but they don't want to pay compensation easily, so they will drag and dragJul 12 08:52
Techrights-secbrigading is one of the problems which social control media is designed to enableJul 12 08:53
schestowitz-TRmaybe not originally designed for itJul 12 08:55
schestowitz-TRthat aside, a querstion worth studyingJul 12 08:55
schestowitz-TRlike "highlighting" other usersJul 12 08:55
schestowitz-TRor "trending"Jul 12 08:55
schestowitz-TR I think those were added a lot laterJul 12 08:55
schestowitz-TRafter it was no longer chronological timelineJul 12 08:55
schestowitz-TRanyway, glad you too gave up on mastodonJul 12 08:55
schestowitz-TRI see more people jumping on the badwagon of jumping OFF the badwagonJul 12 08:55
schestowitz-TRI hope it'll implode like myspaceJul 12 08:55
schestowitz-TRFB will just be "meta"... something...Jul 12 08:55
Techrights-secnot originally but quickly optimized for itJul 12 08:57
Techrights-secmastodon is almost as much of a waste of time as twitter, and for most of Jul 12 08:57
Techrights-secthe same reasonsJul 12 08:57
schestowitz-TRcrude thoughts:Jul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRjoins identica 2009Jul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRdid not want toJul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRin irc, trmanco convinced meJul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRadded twitter as "shadow" laterJul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRposted via ping.fm IIRC, to bothJul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRchanged software to some adobe thing later, then choquok (KDE/Qt)Jul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRit started gaining impactJul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRfast-forward 2019Jul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRafter making a lot of mess in the world twitter, joindiaspora and mastodon already dyingJul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRfewer active usersJul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRa lot less trafficJul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRpeople still assume it's 2014Jul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRand won't let go because of addictionJul 12 09:00
Techrights-secmost of what the social control media sites have going for themJul 12 09:00
Techrights-secis 1) the network effect, and 2) the misperception that it is a communicationsJul 12 09:00
Techrights-secmediumJul 12 09:00
schestowitz-TRfor quite a few years I had an autorepondoer saying contact me via identicaJul 12 09:01
schestowitz-TRsome relatives even created accounts there for itJul 12 09:01
schestowitz-TRlater changed to ircJul 12 09:01
Techrights-secthere was a bit of news coverage for a while about how the UI was designedJul 12 09:10
Techrights-secand refined to be highly addictive and, at the same time, unproductiveJul 12 09:10
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Techrights-secthe "smartphone" "apps" are useless for finding and showing things;Jul 12 09:27
Techrights-seclots of people have tried to show me stuff and end up just flickign aroundJul 12 09:27
Techrights-secalmost aimlessly in hopes of finding what it was they thought they stored thereJul 12 09:27
Techrights-secsometimes they find it after a while but never easily; worst most are underJul 12 09:27
Techrights-secthe wrong assumption that the object (e.g. photo) they are searching for isJul 12 09:27
Techrights-secon their phone. There should be scare quote on "on" and "their" because it'sJul 12 09:27
Techrights-secon a server and the phone is only held by them but operated by large companiesJul 12 09:27
Techrights-secmaemo was ok but that's a big reason why the board (m$) brought in Elop toJul 12 09:27
Techrights-seckill off the companJul 12 09:27
schestowitz-TRwhen alll you have is a "back buttom" and clown it's not meant to empoer the user in any wayJul 12 09:27
schestowitz-TRimagine running techrights from a tablet or phoneJul 12 09:27
schestowitz-TRbtw, rianne used to post to tuxmahciens from a tabletJul 12 09:27
schestowitz-TRit was like 4 times slowerJul 12 09:27
schestowitz-TReven switching between windows is a hassleJul 12 09:27
schestowitz-TRnokia tried to fix this in maemoJul 12 09:27
Techrights-secBy the way, is there a Patreon or Stripe account for Tux Machines?Jul 12 09:28
schestowitz-TRno, and outsourcing to such third parties seems risky to meJul 12 09:30
schestowitz-TRmaybe in the future we'll figure something outJul 12 09:30
schestowitz-TRassuming only rianne works in the company and we barely make ends meetJul 12 09:30
schestowitz-TRor maybe we'll take "patron" money from Gulag in exchange for inserting some MJG into the board [sic] Jul 12 09:30
schestowitz-TRto oust me ;-)Jul 12 09:30
Techrights-secSome method for collecting donations ought to be set up.Jul 12 09:30
Techrights-secabout.shtml and index.shtml are updated on the mockupJul 12 10:15
schestowitz-TRjust finishing off epo stuffJul 12 10:23
schestowitz-TRin drafts nowJul 12 10:23
schestowitz-TRI'm trying to weed out mistakesJul 12 10:23
Techrights-secackJul 12 10:29
schestowitz-TRnice work on the front page and rss feedJul 12 10:31
schestowitz-TRif pageloads are fast, then I suppose full text feeds are not as criticalJul 12 10:31
schestowitz-TRdid you reuse a bit of my shell script?Jul 12 10:31
schestowitz-TR\Jul 12 10:31
schestowitz-TRit was only a prototype anywayJul 12 10:31
schestowitz-TRlike ways to determine time last modifiedJul 12 10:31
schestowitz-TRbut I guess the db overrised that methodJul 12 10:31
schestowitz-TR*ridesJul 12 10:32
Techrights-secthanks, it still needs /lots/ of polish thoughJul 12 10:33
Techrights-secjust some of the pieces not the script itself   Jul 12 10:33
Techrights-secyes there is a lot of change and discardingJul 12 10:33
Techrights-secI accidentally deleted a whole script yesterday as I was going to back it upJul 12 10:33
Techrights-secit took about 2/3 as long to do it again from scratch, but is probably shortJul 12 10:33
Techrights-secer and more efficient this time aroundJul 12 10:33
Techrights-secIt is possible to add in a last-modified time, too. Jul 12 10:33
schestowitz-TR(off-topic: i quite like it when people call me a microsoft hater or say I am obssessed and then go to techrightsJul 12 10:33
schestowitz-TRand it's aall about corruption not related to Microsoft; which discredited the ad hom very fast)Jul 12 10:33
Techrights-secCan you trouble Rianne to take a look and give some ideas or feedback aboutJul 12 10:34
Techrights-secthe mock up? Jul 12 10:34
Techrights-secThe system does not have inotify / incron so the update has to be run manually.Jul 12 10:34
Techrights-sectm-add-entry-sql.pl;Jul 12 10:34
schestowitz-TRcalling rianne from the kitchen (just had breakfast)Jul 12 10:37
schestowitz-TRbtw, nodes will def. get updated with followup, buming them up upon update would be good, maybe latest addition to nodeJul 12 10:37
schestowitz-TRshown on topJul 12 10:37
schestowitz-TRwe can extend all this to figure out how to best edit events and ongoing storiesJul 12 10:37
Techrights-sec tm-extract-posts-sql.pl -f -v -b /var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/n/  ;Jul 12 10:38
Techrights-secnavigation is still missing but I'd like to hear about the core firstJul 12 10:38
Techrights-secParkinson's Law applies to CMS design and scripting in general, severelyJul 12 10:38
Techrights-secokJul 12 10:38
schestowitz-TRhang on..Jul 12 10:45
schestowitz-TRI have justJul 12 10:45
schestowitz-TRa) shown front pageJul 12 10:45
schestowitz-TRb) show how we add a node (android)Jul 12 10:45
schestowitz-TRc) tried to run an opdateJul 12 10:45
schestowitz-TRtried to open individual "node" (did not succeed)Jul 12 10:45
schestowitz-TRrss has validation error atm Jul 12 10:45
schestowitz-TRbut she is OK with itJul 12 10:45
schestowitz-TRI told her she'd run it with rianne optionJul 12 10:45
Techrights-sechere is the workflow the last three steps would be automated with incron:Jul 12 10:47
Techrights-secworkflow-notes.textJul 12 10:47
Techrights-secokJul 12 10:47
schestowitz-TRrunning the commants,it takes less than 1 sec on the SBCJul 12 10:48
schestowitz-TRon the server it would be fasterJul 12 10:48
schestowitz-TRI guess post length is not the bottleneckJul 12 10:48
Techrights-secok new bugs  Jul 12 10:48
Techrights-secyes it would be faster on a real computer, the post lenght would not affectJul 12 10:48
Techrights-secthat speedJul 12 10:48
schestowitz-TRgreat job, I like itJul 12 10:59
schestowitz-TRas logn as perl is around and some basic tools like sqlite the technical debt will be minimalJul 12 10:59
schestowitz-TReven repairing the site should not be hardJul 12 10:59
schestowitz-TRbackups would probably be just rsyncJul 12 10:59
schestowitz-TRtuxmachines almost never has any filkes uploadedJul 12 10:59
schestowitz-TRfor TR we caN CREATE A WHOLE NEW irc SECTION WITH AUTOMATION IN itJul 12 10:59
schestowitz-TRsorry, capsJul 12 10:59
schestowitz-TRwordpress should not be needed for a secttion such as this (ipfs already has its own section, videos too)Jul 12 10:59
schestowitz-TRworking on epo articles atmJul 12 10:59
Techrights-secsqlite will be around and perl5 will eventually transition to perl7 butJul 12 11:00
Techrights-secit might be possible to take the time to redo the individual scriptsJul 12 11:00
Techrights-seclater as python or rakyJul 12 11:00
Techrights-sec^akuJul 12 11:00
Techrights-sec^rakuJul 12 11:00
schestowitz-TR"old" tuxmachines can just be restored with 'factory restore' dDB dumpJul 12 11:01
schestowitz-TRif it has issuesJul 12 11:01
Techrights-secbtw which external feeds should it show besides 9to5Linux ?Jul 12 11:02
Techrights-secyesJul 12 11:02
Techrights-secbtw which external feeds should it show besides 9to5Linux ?Jul 12 11:02
schestowitz-TRif that's for 'padding' the sidebars (or similar), we can use opml files laterJul 12 11:03
schestowitz-TRor copy across the feeds from "old" TMJul 12 11:03
schestowitz-TRthose can be good for SEO reasonsJul 12 11:03
schestowitz-TRstuffing more words in a page about a short nodeJul 12 11:04
schestowitz-TRnoting to self: on TR we can delay the same, starting with new section for IRC postsJul 12 11:09
schestowitz-TRno need for social control media "cards" (image previews), it is a dying medium anywayJul 12 11:09
schestowitz-TRthe github stuff or other "leaks" can maybe be adapted as well for a static cms styleJul 12 11:09
schestowitz-TRbut I don't know how yet...Jul 12 11:09
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schestowitz-TRotaJul 12 12:36
schestowitz-TRdraft  Jul 12 12:36
schestowitz-TRthis is about more than epoJul 12 12:36
schestowitz-TRabout intl labourJul 12 12:36
schestowitz-TRabout europeJul 12 12:36
schestowitz-TRabout patents Jul 12 12:36
Techrights-seccheckingJul 12 12:36
Techrights-secin the summary, /what/ was discoverd late?Jul 12 12:36
Techrights-sectoo many commans and parenthesesJul 12 12:36
schestowitz-TRthanks, working tro correct what you pointed otu while vieo processesJul 12 12:36
Techrights-secthanksJul 12 13:06
Techrights-secDevices/Embedded: Small SBC and ArduinoJul 12 13:06
Techrights-sec^otr : wrong pasteJul 12 13:06
Techrights-secthanksJul 12 13:06
Techrights-secDevices/Embedded: Small SBC and ArduinoJul 12 13:06
Techrights-sec^otr : wrong pasteJul 12 13:06
schestowitz-TRscrollback has a lot moreJul 12 13:08
schestowitz-TRor wait till tomorrow's daily irc logs, starts circa 1pm gmtJul 12 13:08
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schestowitz-TRdrizzle hereJul 12 13:12
schestowitz-TRwe need some of thatJul 12 13:12
schestowitz-TRhumid thoughJul 12 13:12
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schestowitz-TRi am rsyncing TR uploads dir at the momentJul 12 13:45
schestowitz-TRall of itJul 12 13:45
schestowitz-TRbefore FS repairJul 12 13:45
schestowitz-TRjust in caseJul 12 13:45
schestowitz-TRtons of critical assets there (more info and context in irc)Jul 12 13:45
Techrights-secgood ideaJul 12 13:45
schestowitz-TRregarding experiemntce with xfs_repairJul 12 13:45
schestowitz<schestowitz[TR]> ah, that's whytJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> hmm i seeJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> actually, i think this is not so bad.Jul 12 13:46
schestowitz<schestowitz[TR]> phewJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> this xfs log notice is oldJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> so i guess repairing the xfs filesystem will fix itJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<schestowitz[TR]> since january 6th (yes, we checked exact date) some backup gz files were failingJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<schestowitz[TR]> in april we started having tm db issues, it's the only db hosted locallyJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> yeah that's when we did a reboot on the SANJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> i thinkJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> okayJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> well nbdJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> i'll fix itJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<schestowitz[TR]> at one point one file became empty file, but that was back in april, seen no such issue sinceJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> tomorrow nightJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<schestowitz[TR]> the san reboot was februaryJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> oh, was it?Jul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> okayJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> wellJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<schestowitz[TR]> yeah, I checked the datesJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<Ariadne> easy enough to fixJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<schestowitz[TR]> :DJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<schestowitz[TR]> I was worriedJul 12 13:46
schestowitz<schestowitz[TR]> even scanned the sizes of all filesJul 12 13:46
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schestowitzhttps://www.fosslife.org/how-prevent-memory-leaks-javaJul 12 17:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | How to Prevent Memory Leaks in JavaJul 12 17:36
schestowitz"Jul 12 17:36
schestowitzMemory leaks occur when an application accidentally hangs on to object references that are no longer necessary, explains Joydip Kanjilal, and over time these leaks can lead to performance degradation.Jul 12 17:36
schestowitzThis programming tutorial covers memory leaks in Java, including why they occur despite Java’s garbage collection capability and how you can prevent them.Jul 12 17:36
schestowitz"Jul 12 17:36
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schestowitz-TR Microsoft: get busy, regulators, with "GAFA"... while we too spy even more than "GAFA" and also commit a ton of crimes... including against GNU/Linux (which we claim to "love" to keep you asleep)Jul 12 18:21
schestowitz-TR Why is Microsoft absent from this? Have the bribes paid off? Paid politicians? Paid press? https://techpolicy.press/u-s-antitrust-reform-is-necessary-to-defend-global-human-rights/Jul 12 18:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techpolicy.press | U.S. Antitrust Reform Is Necessary to Defend Global Human RightsJul 12 18:21
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- techpolicy.press | U.S. Antitrust Reform Is Necessary to Defend Global Human RightsJul 12 18:21
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Public Access is already infiltrated by Microsoft (the Board), but is Access Now also infiltrated to distract and deflect?Jul 12 18:22
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> LOLOLOLOL! Kaiku shoots its own foot by outsrcing payment processing to a crime syndicate called Microsoft https://www.haiku-os.org/news/2022-07-11_github_sponsors/Jul 12 21:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.haiku-os.org | Haiku, Inc. Now Accepting Donations Through GitHub Sponsors | Haiku ProjectJul 12 21:07
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schestowitz-TRThis is 100% about Microsoft and 100% about Windows; notice how they evade the mention of that, as Microsoft failed to patch and it's already actively exploited; CISA is like a Microsoft front, shielding the NSA's back doors https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/12/cisa-adds-one-known-exploited-vulnerability-catalogJul 12 21:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | CISA Adds One Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog  | CISAJul 12 21:57
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