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| schestowitz-TR | regarding population explosion, yes, I am perfectly aware | Oct 13 07:41 |
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| Techrights-sec | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121022.html#tOct%2012%2006:10:25 | Oct 13 07:42 |
| Techrights-sec | ^ topic ? | Oct 13 07:42 |
| Techrights-sec | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-121022.html#tOct%2012%2003:13:18 | Oct 13 07:42 |
| Techrights-sec | # there are far cheaper, far more reliable MFA solutions than "smartphones" | Oct 13 07:42 |
| Techrights-sec | Yubikey, Onlykey, Nitrokey, etc. all last many more years than a "smartphone" | Oct 13 07:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 | Oct 13 07:42 | |
| Techrights-sec | and without the risk of remote compromise that comes with the "smartphones" | Oct 13 07:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 | Oct 13 07:42 | |
| Techrights-sec | Pushing out "smartphones" gives every appearance of a solution in search of | Oct 13 07:42 |
| Techrights-sec | a problem. Are kickbacks or something similar involved? | Oct 13 07:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | you are thinking way ahead and over-estimate our 'talent' | Oct 13 07:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | two of them have ZERO skills in tech and are just sleeping with a colleague | Oct 13 07:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | they use 'Linux'... in virtualbox in Windows | Oct 13 07:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | so giving them yubikey is like buying a coffee machine capsule to someone in a congoese jungle | Oct 13 07:43 |
| Techrights-sec | So then it sounds like they are bending policy into something which justifiess | Oct 13 07:50 |
| Techrights-sec | them buying useless, expensive toys using the company's money. | Oct 13 07:50 |
| Techrights-sec | They should just be upfront and ask for a PS5 for the one "employee" | Oct 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have not even been sent a contract to sign yet and am considering the options | Oct 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne keeps saying, | Oct 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we tolerate thig | Oct 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | *this | Oct 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | the next stage might be, not you need to use "company laptop" | Oct 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | with who-knows-what on it | Oct 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have colleagues with use hypePhones | Oct 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is not the company I joined in Feb 2011 | Oct 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we have NO security people | Oct 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | just a bunch of self-appointing pretenders | Oct 13 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | back on the prior topic, any advice you can give would help | Oct 13 08:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | as we are still not certain how to deal with this | Oct 13 08:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | adding "cellphone" to the home based on false pretenses is surrendering to frauds | Oct 13 08:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of it was (after 50 mins on phone), "we MIGHT find use for it in the future" | Oct 13 08:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | mfa suually works with landline also | Oct 13 08:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | they phone and read our a numbers | Oct 13 08:00 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, the proposed "smartphone" deployment is fraudulent on several levels. | Oct 13 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | In other words, they have no use for it now and it is a solution in search of | Oct 13 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | a problem. :( | Oct 13 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | Just-in-time is generally more cost efficient when dealing with rapidly | Oct 13 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | obsolete products that depreciate in both value and utility at a frenetic rate. | Oct 13 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | If they are truly interested in MFA then they should be looking around to see | Oct 13 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | what options there are and which are most future-proof, least cost, and | Oct 13 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | least maintenance. That pretty much excludes all "smartphones". | Oct 13 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | ack | Oct 13 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | There are many kinds of 2FA. Some call and speak a short number or code word. | Oct 13 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | That works independent of phone type. Or if SMS is required (insecure in the | Oct 13 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | big picture) then a 15 EUR feature phone will be far more cost effective. | Oct 13 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | Furthermore, apps are generally just mutilated web browsers that have been | Oct 13 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | locked to a single site and never updated for security or other reasons. | Oct 13 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.nitrokey.com/ | Oct 13 08:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Nitrokey | Secure your digital life | Oct 13 08:05 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://onlykey.io/ | Oct 13 08:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-onlykey.io | OnlyKey Hardware Password Manager | One PIN to remember | Oct 13 08:05 | |
| schestowitz-TR | someone from finland once sent me entropykey | Oct 13 08:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still have it, but the drivers might be well out of data | Oct 13 08:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was back when I did GNU/Linux advocacy around 2007 or prior | Oct 13 08:07 |
| Techrights-sec | With the "smartphone" what happens when it is lost, stolen, broken, compromised, | Oct 13 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | or the battery runs down? Entropy keys would be useful on a server. | Oct 13 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | There should be a spare "smartphone" to avoid denial of service in those | Oct 13 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | scenarios. That's too expensive. | Oct 13 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | This is probably the least expensive option, | Oct 13 08:10 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.yubico.com/products/security-key/ | Oct 13 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Security Key Series | YubiKeys | Yubico | Oct 13 08:10 | |
| Techrights-sec | least expensive | Oct 13 08:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | like I said earlier, NO SECURITY_PROFICIENT PEOPLE make these decisions | Oct 13 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are frauds like SarinGas | Oct 13 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and this is what we cannot accept | Oct 13 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I told him I've lectured even hospitals here on secuirty since age 22 | Oct 13 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm a lot more qualified than them | Oct 13 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | not that I' a a guru, it's really not my area | Oct 13 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I often deal with outdated systems, though no more outdated than $employer's | Oct 13 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to costs and sys admin constraints (we both know this; tessier was more hands-on) | Oct 13 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | to remind you, one org we support advocates human rights in iran and its staff is targeted | Oct 13 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | you sometimes link to their site | Oct 13 08:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | with masturbating pretenders as "bosses" they can die | Oct 13 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, clearly frauds looking for an excuse to buy the most expensive model | Oct 13 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec | of "smartphone" for themselves using company money. | Oct 13 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec | What models (specifically) of "smartphone" are they proposing or is | Oct 13 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec | there a hierarchy of expense. | Oct 13 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec | Many of the newer hardware tokens even allow for NFC, something I am undecided | Oct 13 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec | about, which would ease their use among those with such computers or | Oct 13 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec | "smartphones" | Oct 13 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec | They probably have multiple fatwas against them. | Oct 13 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec | It sounds like if they wise up they will fire your boss either by sending | Oct 13 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec | him on his way or by moving to a different provider. | Oct 13 08:14 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 13 08:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | look up maxziar bahari | Oct 13 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | maziar | Oct 13 08:15 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I've not yet received the thing they want signed | Oct 13 08:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | it might shed a clue on what we're being exposed to (if consenting) | Oct 13 08:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I would not spend money on lawyers if I can read it meticulously myself | Oct 13 08:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | my uncle us a judge, he gave me advice a few times in past years | Oct 13 08:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reckon it allows several "new" abuses and protects them in case of us suing | Oct 13 08:24 |
| Techrights-sec | In some jurisdictions one can strike out offending words, sentences, and | Oct 13 08:24 |
| Techrights-sec | paragraphs with a pen prior to signing. Another trick is to ask for an | Oct 13 08:24 |
| Techrights-sec | electronic copy, and you edit it, print it out and then send the edited | Oct 13 08:24 |
| Techrights-sec | version back. :P | Oct 13 08:24 |
| Techrights-sec | From what you have described they have not presented a case for purchasing | Oct 13 08:28 |
| Techrights-sec | such expensive and perishable items as "smartphones". It sounds more liek | Oct 13 08:28 |
| Techrights-sec | s/liek/like/ | Oct 13 08:28 |
| Techrights-sec | one or two wishes to use company money for a toy of their own. | Oct 13 08:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | just had a chat with rianne | Oct 13 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | circa 10 mins | Oct 13 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we like this idea | Oct 13 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | we print out the PDF | Oct 13 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | we wait 1-2 weeks, for "seeing a lawyer" (not) | Oct 13 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | first delay | Oct 13 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | then we send modified version with parts "deemed likely illegal" | Oct 13 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | they cannot fire because | Oct 13 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can get sued for retaliating upon trying to "asap" get us to sign something not legal | Oct 13 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and this legal threat can itself foil the whole plan | Oct 13 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | we think | Oct 13 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | or get us exempted | Oct 13 08:35 |
| Techrights-sec | more gimmicks: | Oct 13 08:37 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-hardware-security-keys/ | Oct 13 08:37 |
| Techrights-sec | Closed source gimmick: https://duo.com/product/multi-factor-authentication-mfa/two-factor-authentication-2fa | Oct 13 08:37 |
| Techrights-sec | What are the FSF's recommendations for tokens and authenticators? | Oct 13 08:37 |
| Techrights-sec | Especially for ones that do not require "smartphone" surveillance. | Oct 13 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.maketecheasier.com | 5 of the Best Hardware Security Keys for Two-Factor Authentication - Make Tech Easier | Oct 13 08:37 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 13 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) | Duo Security | Oct 13 08:37 | |
| Techrights-sec | It still sounds like someone there is looking for an excuse to buy himself | Oct 13 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec | and expensive toy using company money. | Oct 13 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec | I supposed they have not even considered physical security. | Oct 13 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec | You should recommend purchasing specialized devices for that for all the | Oct 13 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec | staff, Glock 17DK would be a good match for physical security. | Oct 13 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | ack | Oct 13 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | thinking... | Oct 13 08:38 |
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| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: ping | Oct 13 09:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | immune system is now something you get buy/get off the shelf | Oct 13 09:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | the link you gave is german's national broadcaster | Oct 13 09:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it shut him upo | Oct 13 09:50 |
| mjg59_ | What? No it didn't. | Oct 13 09:50 |
| schestowitz | "Idiots can be defeated but they never admit it." | Oct 13 09:51 |
| schestowitz | -RMS | Oct 13 09:51 |
| mjg59_ | Just point at the fucking study, Roy. | Oct 13 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | "The CDC says that although two doses of the vaccine work to prevent severe illness in most people, boosters can help protect severe illness in people in risk groups, and against reinfection from new variants like omicron. | Oct 13 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | Recent trials in Israel and the US have also shown that boosters can help protect older people. Offit says they make sense for people who need them due to risk factors, but that protection from omicron alone isn't enough of a reason to boost everyone. | Oct 13 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | "The people who get hospitalized, people who have multiple comorbidities, who are older or immunosuppressed – boost them. I'm all for that," Offit said. "But I just don't understand the story of this war against mild disease in healthy young people." | Oct 13 09:58 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Can you point at the bit where it says that additional COVID vaccinations reduce your immune response to non-COVID diseases? | Oct 13 10:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: he uses a straw man argument now | Oct 13 10:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | by making up the think to refute | Oct 13 10:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't waste time on it | Oct 13 10:02 |
| mjg59_ | 08:56 < schestowitz[TR]> they said people vaccinated for covid-19 were more prone to contracting other viruses | Oct 13 10:03 |
| mjg59_ | What, precisely, am I making up? | Oct 13 10:03 |
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| schestowitz-TR | apps are (mostly) overrated gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/random20 | Oct 13 10:54 |
| Techrights-sec | Web2.0 front-ends aka masses of javascript in single-site, insecure, outdated | Oct 13 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | browsers. | Oct 13 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | web sites that read your location as you walk | Oct 13 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and can even figure out orientation vertically on some "phones" | Oct 13 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | web sites that easily gain access to call history , address book, microphone, and multiple cameras :-) | Oct 13 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | (apropos the news about ./l in SN, re webcam always on) | Oct 13 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | *nl | Oct 13 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | sys admins need "apps" like barbers need box cutters | Oct 13 11:04 |
| Techrights-sec | That's about it. Sadly they are driven by the Google/Apple duopoly and | Oct 13 11:05 |
| Techrights-sec | the monkey-see, monkey-do attitude that most people take towards life. | Oct 13 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | you could even ssay money-see, money-envy | Oct 13 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I avoid these epople like they are infectious lepers | Oct 13 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and keep rianne safe from them, too | Oct 13 11:06 |
| Techrights-sec | That too. Parts of social control media are driven by negative emotions like | Oct 13 11:07 |
| Techrights-sec | jealously and envy and fear. | Oct 13 11:07 |
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| schestowitz-TR | they are "poison" which targets the primal instincts | Oct 13 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and should be labeled as such, esp. in reent years when making is addictive is blatant and insiders blow the whistle on it | Oct 13 11:08 |
| Techrights-sec | Not just target, but also actively exploit those as weaknesses. | Oct 13 11:09 |
| Techrights-sec | They have blown the whistle several times but the results are, without irony, | Oct 13 11:09 |
| Techrights-sec | "discussed" on said same social control media where they are quickly stifled. | Oct 13 11:09 |
| Techrights-sec | and suppressed. | Oct 13 11:09 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Oct 13 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne stopped buying much clothes, except for selling, when she quit the BS machine | Oct 13 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne became a happier person when she stopped "using" FB | Oct 13 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | a side issue I learned over time is that people buy a lot more clothes | Oct 13 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | almost like disposables | Oct 13 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | just to show off how big their wardrobe (status symbol) is | Oct 13 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and in social control media you're not allowed ro 'reuse' an item of clothing | Oct 13 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | that makes you petty and 'poor' | Oct 13 11:13 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Oct 13 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | so there are envioronmental aspects to these literally toxic (dyes etc.) "sites" | Oct 13 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | funny your should mention batteries or UPSs | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | earlier on I was thinking of it in the context of fake reasons for "smart" phone (tethering) | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | no power may mean no connection | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | but no power means no pi (vpn) | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | no monitors | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and only a few hours for laptops | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the router too need power | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | so, to us at least, they 'solve' an issue that does not exist | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | or a problem that cannot be overcome | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | in some scenarios the exchanges too can run out of power | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | or nearby stations | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | so even a ups at the router and batteries on a laptop... no good | Oct 13 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | we cannot do our job on "apps" | Oct 13 11:19 |
| Techrights-sec | The move to 5G mobile networking is another energy problem as the signal requires much more power to send and receive. In the event of outages the towers | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Techrights-sec | won't be able to work on reserve power for any appreciable amount of time. | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Techrights-sec | UPS is only intended to give the computer breathing room to power down before | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Techrights-sec | hard cutoff. There are other options (I forget the name) for proper uptime. | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Techrights-sec | The best is to keep the large displays and printers off those circuits. | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Techrights-sec | The router is a read-only OS and does not need power because if there is no | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Techrights-sec | electricity there is no network anyway. | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Techrights-sec | UPS is only a buffer for a few minutes. | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Techrights-sec | ANother reason the job cannot be done on apps is that the batteries in the | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Techrights-sec | "smartphones" last only a few hours. You'd get as much life out of a new | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Techrights-sec | s/new/old/ | Oct 13 11:22 |
| Techrights-sec | laptop. If you can get a new laptop, some of them claim to have 10 - 12 hours | Oct 13 11:23 |
| Techrights-sec | of usage per charge. | Oct 13 11:23 |
| Techrights-sec | Just avoid Nvidia for that. | Oct 13 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, the energy supplier's guy, whom I spoke to for a very long time, said the copper net connection can still deliver during localised blackouits/outages | Oct 13 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | because at the edges there are some batteries for spare hours | Oct 13 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and gracefully degrdation | Oct 13 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I believe... | Oct 13 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | so if I can boost the router during any sort of blackkouts (planned or unexpected) | Oct 13 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | then I can still use the laptops while connected | Oct 13 11:23 |
| Techrights-sec | It depends on a lot of factors. But either way, a UPS is not what would b | Oct 13 11:23 |
| Techrights-sec | e needed at your site. | Oct 13 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, normal ups is not what I was after but something that can give enough to the pi and router for maybe 3 hours | Oct 13 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | like laptops' batteries | Oct 13 11:25 |
| mjg59_ | I have no idea what you're talking about, but consumer UPSes will let routers, modems and a small amount of additional hardware work for hours | Oct 13 11:27 |
| mjg59_ | The UPS supplying my uplink will let it run for about 3 hours before dropping out | Oct 13 11:28 |
| Techrights-sec | Another point with the power is that lead-acid batteries are only good for | Oct 13 11:52 |
| Techrights-sec | a few years, an estimated 3 to 5 if I recall correctly. | Oct 13 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I recall reading about ups appliance whose life was so short that they were never put to use in a real incident | Oct 13 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and due to lack of trial and error when a real incident happened they failed to kick in | Oct 13 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | :-( another linux news sites I followed is dying | Oct 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | started posting webspam instead of real stories | Oct 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | they never recover from that, not fully anyway | Oct 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a shift in attitude | Oct 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "tfir" | Oct 13 11:55 |
| Techrights-sec | there's not much point in them sticking around once they begin pushing webspam | Oct 13 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec | they can coast a little on the brand recognition and reputation but that | Oct 13 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec | s/that/those. | Oct 13 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec | both disappear quickly once the webspam starts | Oct 13 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec | However, that might be one of the goals of pushing out the web spam. | Oct 13 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec | It takes the site down without people missing it. | Oct 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems like an innovative, creative, novel, covert way to take out one's opposition | Oct 13 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | inm theory | Oct 13 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | partly joking | Oct 13 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | using money to destroy their sites | Oct 13 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | and ruin the brand | Oct 13 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm looking at you, itsfoss, fossforce, linux.com | Oct 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | (LF dumpster fires | Oct 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | did you see the zemlin video I posted last night in TR? | Oct 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | The man is unhinged | Oct 13 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a gates npr rep | Oct 13 12:02 |
| Techrights-sec | No, I don't usually have the chance to keep up with the videos just the text | Oct 13 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, I need to look deeper into articles I read about vaccine experts expressing concerns that "updated" pfizer jabs were only tested on animals | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think in the coming years we'lll see further digging into what was actually tested and to what extent | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | with effects more serious than hair loss or vomiting | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | supprssing research into this can be done within the grant framdworks | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and corporations controlling universities | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | but there are always some inquiries | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | that of course corporate media is quick to demonise | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | today at 4pm we get the weekly data from nhs | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've not checked the ons data for death (11/10) | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | but each week they add more | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still have some working spreadsheers, I can insert the missing (new weeks) in | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and maybe make some graphs soon | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ons data is always about 2-3 weeks back | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to backlog | Oct 13 12:12 |
| Techrights-sec | How up-to-date is the weekly data? I got the impression they were delaying | Oct 13 12:12 |
| Techrights-sec | substantially | Oct 13 12:12 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 13 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did a 26 minute video about it on Monday | Oct 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | the data is fantastic | Oct 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it is vast | Oct 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | so much so that you can see the curves being very smooth | Oct 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and when there is a pattern, it is based on a massive number of people not a random set or subset | Oct 13 12:14 |
| Techrights-sec | gnuplot can do error bars iirc | Oct 13 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I should add error bars (if I recall hwo to calculater them, maybe libreoffice has that built in) | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | to show the certainty and accuracy of these curves | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | the error bars would be small due to the set size | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I might need to check my own thesis to recall how I rendered them and calculated them | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | built in, or need you pass those to it as args? | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I guess the latter | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you still need to compute | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | gnuplot typically just takes a series of value | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I worked a LOT with gnuplot | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | even to plot tuxmachines activity some years ago | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | gnuplot does not do the maths for you | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the series of figures alone does not give you error bars | Oct 13 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | you need to computer them based on external variables, such as set size | Oct 13 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | I haven't done it in too long so cannot remember. | Oct 13 12:23 |
| Techrights-sec | Strangly I remember methods from decades ago. :/ | Oct 13 12:23 |
| Techrights-sec | https://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/docs_4.2/node140.html | Oct 13 12:23 |
| Techrights-sec | Can you find the script you used back then? | Oct 13 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gnuplot.sourceforge.net | Errorbars | Oct 13 12:23 | |
| schestowitz-TR | you can chain gnuplot with dc or bc and then plot something | Oct 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | in tuxmachines blog (old) i showed some scripts with gnuplot | Oct 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that was like 5 years ago | Oct 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and tuxmachines is moving on | Oct 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, search and archives still not there, but they're not so critical | Oct 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | if search is added, then adding s static secton for "related stories:" becomes possible each time a page gets added | Oct 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | later today I will see many "reds" in nhs, focus on that, later (another day, i work at 5:30 today) will work on death cert data | Oct 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it should be easy to show people my age die younger | Oct 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not much research into causes | Oct 13 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | could be so many things | Oct 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | immune system | Oct 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | long covid | Oct 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | depression | Oct 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | poverty | Oct 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | nhs sucking | Oct 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | no access to screenings in 2020-21 | Oct 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | need to study | Oct 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | all I can do is show what the data shows | Oct 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | 10% more deaths | Oct 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | in my age group | Oct 13 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | many are young parents | Oct 13 12:26 |
| Techrights-sec | Then there are the harder-to-track effects like "long COVID" and organ damage | Oct 13 12:27 |
| Techrights-sec | like ruined hearts etc | Oct 13 12:27 |
| Techrights-sec | Those are harder to measure | Oct 13 12:27 |
| Techrights-sec | and thus unlikely to be published even irregularly if at all | Oct 13 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm careful to not speculate and instead focus on the knowns | Oct 13 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "number people dead in [age bracket]" | Oct 13 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | then, the task is for someone else to study the causes | Oct 13 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | we also see a decrease in windows usage | Oct 13 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and vista 11 adoption | Oct 13 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the causes might be more complicate to explaina nd vary demographically | Oct 13 12:29 |
| Techrights-sec | Right. The causes of the decline in Vista10, Vista11 are not known | Oct 13 12:30 |
| Techrights-sec | Though it looks like many people are moving to Android instead in the various | Oct 13 12:30 |
| Techrights-sec | populations. What would be easily measurable is that whether it is an | Oct 13 12:30 |
| Techrights-sec | actual shift to Android or if new Android users are simply outnumbering | Oct 13 12:30 |
| Techrights-sec | Vista users | Oct 13 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is a possibility, but it's not like poor countries started using computers only in 2008 | Oct 13 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some use multiple devices | Oct 13 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | PCs got expensive | Oct 13 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | people got poorers | Oct 13 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | PC slaes collapsed | Oct 13 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I read that in china many chose to have just 'phone' and not a PC | Oct 13 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think my mom barely uses a PC anymore | Oct 13 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | not that she is any more productive now | Oct 13 12:32 |
| Techrights-sec | That's what I'm thinking. That the "smartphones" are spreading into places | Oct 13 12:33 |
| Techrights-sec | where there was nothing at all before. That still breaks the monopoly though, | Oct 13 12:33 |
| Techrights-sec | since market share is market share. | Oct 13 12:33 |
| Techrights-sec | Most people would rather spend 40 minutes dorking unproductively with the | Oct 13 12:33 |
| Techrights-sec | "smartphone" than waiting a bit and getting done with the same task in < 5 min | Oct 13 12:33 |
| Techrights-sec | when in front of a real computer. | Oct 13 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, precisely! | Oct 13 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | like making cereal instead of proper breaskfast | Oct 13 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the "cereal" these days tened to be carb-bombs | Oct 13 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | (hehe, sounds like "car bomb") | Oct 13 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | ()nothing funny about these) | Oct 13 12:34 |
| Techrights-sec | It makes me think that the dorking around is their goal not the actual task | Oct 13 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | they are pretending to pursue. | Oct 13 12:35 |
| schestowitz | Two days ago the company did this, without notifying anyone: | Oct 13 13:18 |
| schestowitz | https://www.qaccounting.com/i-use-accountants-registered-office-address/ | Oct 13 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.qaccounting.com | Should I Use My Accountants As My Registered Office Address? - QA | Oct 13 13:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.1stformations.co.uk/blog/use-accountant-registered-office/ | Oct 13 13:18 |
| schestowitz | turns out it is legal, but not a good sign. We shut down our office in July 2020 | Oct 13 13:18 |
| schestowitz | the "Smart" phone BS came a day after the address change | Oct 13 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.1stformations.co.uk | Using Your Accountant For a Registered Office | 1st Formations | Oct 13 13:18 | |
| schestowitz | thoughts? | Oct 13 13:18 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Oct 13 13:27 |
| Techrights-sec | It's problematic that he remains employed despite lying | Oct 13 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | timing must have been a coincidence | Oct 13 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe related to maternity leave for one who checked the PO box | Oct 13 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | but she went on leave months ago | Oct 13 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I notced address change within like less thana day | Oct 13 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I check some things daily | Oct 13 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | without rss | Oct 13 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | boss was shocked I had become aware (And so fast) | Oct 13 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reminded him I'm the longest serving staff except the founder | Oct 13 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I do deserve to know some things | Oct 13 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | he likes to get aggressive when exposed lying | Oct 13 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then pretends to be the victim | Oct 13 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | like interrupting you | Oct 13 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then acccusing the other personal of being rude or interrupting | Oct 13 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the type of sociopaths at hand | Oct 13 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | he goes like, "why does it matter to you?" | Oct 13 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I remind him, politely, that my reputation may be tied to the employer | Oct 13 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | like SarinGas | Oct 13 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | he does not care for or understand the business | Oct 13 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | yet someone believes to have some god-given rights to dictate | Oct 13 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | socipaths | Oct 13 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | while WE do ALL the ACTUAL work | Oct 13 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | which they CANNOT do (no skills) | Oct 13 13:28 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 13 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | had another chat with the homeboss (rianne) | Oct 13 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think we know the strategy now | Oct 13 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it might work okfor them to back off the plan | Oct 13 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | or make exemption | Oct 13 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | we'll see... | Oct 13 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | (joke about rianne being boss of the home) | Oct 13 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe that was lost in translation | Oct 13 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4pm I'll have some nhs data to work with | Oct 13 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | TR might pick up speed at night when links are done | Oct 13 13:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ? | Oct 13 14:01 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 13 14:01 |
| Techrights-sec | ? | Oct 13 14:01 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 13 14:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | next week we have about 20-30kg of coins to carry to the bank (if all goes to plan) | Oct 13 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have this unproven theory | Oct 13 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) they mint fewer coins by moving to "new" bartering | Oct 13 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | to make scarcity | Oct 13 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) making coin-counting machines ascare and expensive | Oct 13 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | this way they dicourage cash use, make it a burden | Oct 13 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have to reopen two accounts in this bank just to use its free coin machine | Oct 13 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's the onle branch int he centre of town that I know has this service (for free) | Oct 13 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | some private shop take 10%(!!) for the 'service' | Oct 13 14:04 |
| Techrights-sec | Coins can be re-used in stores. | Oct 13 14:05 |
| Techrights-sec | If you have an idea how much a trp will cost, you can bring enough and count | Oct 13 14:05 |
| Techrights-sec | them out in time to pay. | Oct 13 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, but since about 2002 I've had a habit of dumping smaller change aside, then in plastic bag | Oct 13 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I hadn't yet known about the machines | Oct 13 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | they were scarce | Oct 13 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | imagine the first time | Oct 13 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I come there with small organised bags | Oct 13 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | with coins sorted by type | Oct 13 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then they present me with this machine | Oct 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I wasted my time | Oct 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | except | Oct 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can then verify accuracy | Oct 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | like put all the tens in and see the machine only detects 10s and so on.. | Oct 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | to get some confidence | Oct 13 14:08 |
| Techrights-sec | Oct 13 14:08 | |
| Techrights-sec | If the shops get used to not dealing with cash then they'll have an easier time | Oct 13 14:08 |
| Techrights-sec | dropping it from their work flow. | Oct 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, exactly | Oct 13 14:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence I keep reminding people to pay with cash | Oct 13 14:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and also use till operators (people) | Oct 13 14:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | to keep them around for all of us | Oct 13 14:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | an act of solidarity, also job-keeping | Oct 13 14:09 |
| Techrights-sec | The same applies to coins, if they're not used to receiving coins they will | Oct 13 14:11 |
| Techrights-sec | cease allowing then in their work flow. | Oct 13 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | here, some used "COVID" as a fake excuse | Oct 13 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wtoe about it at the time | Oct 13 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | even made some voice notes on my PDA | Oct 13 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I like to ask them upfront | Oct 13 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then turn around in an upset gesture | Oct 13 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | to make THEM, not me, feel "dirty" | Oct 13 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | you still confront not the decision makers | Oct 13 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | but people "down the chain" | Oct 13 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | in some business directly with the business owner | Oct 13 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you can congratulate and thank then for taking coina | Oct 13 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and reaffirm their decision | Oct 13 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | "we come here because other places don't accdept cash..." | Oct 13 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I taught rianne how to use body language to get serviced at the tills when they are empty | Oct 13 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | they pretend they are unmanned | Oct 13 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and also pretend you need to buy cigs to get served by a person | Oct 13 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are almost always workarounds | Oct 13 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | failing that, you make a scene, then leave with the items left them for them to sort out | Oct 13 14:16 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 13 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of this boils down... to SOCIAL CONDITIONING | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you know how to confront the trendd/threat | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | reward and punishment | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | as the person with "the money" | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | tghe hardest thing now is, | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | still getting them to bag it for you like they used to years ago | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are ways to get that done too | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | subtle ways | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne is too shy because she is small, female, and foreign-looking | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you tried to start 'hashtag' campaign in social CONTROL media, | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would not spread far | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | they would soon say it's an antivaxxer right-wing election-denying terrorist threat | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and 'disperse' the participants | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | hahtags are like people "liking" or signing up to a protest | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | they do the government's or polcie job | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | or making lists of people | Oct 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so funny, in a sick way... | Oct 13 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are mapping themselves, the "threat" | Oct 13 14:21 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 13 14:22 |
| Techrights-sec | hashtags are closely supervised and I suspect popularity is raised or lowered | Oct 13 14:22 |
| Techrights-sec | drastically dependin on the message the investors wish to promote | Oct 13 14:22 |
| Techrights-sec | Worse is that there are a lot of government representatives without actual | Oct 13 14:22 |
| Techrights-sec | e-mail and pretending to use MS Outlook instead. No wayto reach them | Oct 13 14:22 |
| Techrights-sec | but they don't know that... | Oct 13 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "Biden White House is upset with Saudi Arabia over the recent OPEC+ decision" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/12/want-punish-saudis-fast-track-nuke-agreement-iran-and-green-new-deal | Source: Common Dreams | Oct 13 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Want to Punish the Saudis? Fast-Track Nuke Agreement With Iran and the Green New Deal | Juan Cole | Oct 13 14:40 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "Walled Culture" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/12/techdirt-podcast-episode-333-walled-culture/ | Source: Techdirt | Oct 13 15:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Techdirt Podcast Episode 333: Walled Culture | Techdirt | Oct 13 15:02 | |
| Techrights-sec | Hmm. That's a SoundCloud link. | Oct 13 15:09 |
| Techrights-sec | Hmm. That's a SoundCloud link. | Oct 13 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I am aware they outsource a lot to clown and proprietary | Oct 13 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | but remember techdirt was never a foss platform/site | Oct 13 15:10 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Jim Zemlin: we should be more like Microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/jim-zemlin-applauding-bill-gates/ | Oct 13 15:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin Idolises Microsoft and Bill Gates (in New Talk Published This Week), Applauding a Back Doors Company and Jeffrey Epstein’s Enabler | Techrights | Oct 13 15:40 | |
| Techrights-sec | TM is active with legitimate visits, not just bots | Oct 13 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): PostgreSQL 15 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/PostgreSQL_15.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/PostgreSQL_15.gmi ∎ | Oct 13 15:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — PostgreSQL 15 | Oct 13 15:48 | |
| schestowitz-TR | speed matter a lot, maybe the most | Oct 13 15:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | we're only minutes, not hours, behind LWN with this | Oct 13 15:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm not working on RSS | Oct 13 15:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have a way of identifying patterns to pick out urgent stories | Oct 13 15:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and rianne also checks a lot | Oct 13 15:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | quiet at work today | Oct 13 15:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and no new email | Oct 13 15:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is a good sign | Oct 13 15:50 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 13 15:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | covid data 2 mins | Oct 13 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | sans delays | Oct 13 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol delay, of course... | Oct 13 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Canonical displays controversial 'ad' in shell update prog ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Canonical_displays_controversial_ad_in_shell_update_prog.shtml Something a hopeless company with no business modem would do (_short-term_ business model: sell out to Microsoft) | Oct 13 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Canonical displays controversial 'ad' in shell update prog | Oct 13 16:03 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> New COVID-19 Data for England: Cases Up 21%, Deaths Up 15% in a Week, Test Positivity Rate Soars to 10% https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/13/test-positivity-rate-soars/ | Oct 13 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » New COVID-19 Data for England: Cases Up 21%, Deaths Up 15% in a Week, Test Positivity Rate Soars to 10% | Oct 13 16:11 | |
| Techrights-sec | gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Canonical_displays_controversial_ad_in_shell_update_prog.gmi | Oct 13 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Deaths Rose Sharply This September Compared to Prior Septembers (More Than 10% Higher Than in 2020) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/13/covid-septembers/ | Oct 13 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Deaths Rose Sharply This September Compared to Prior Septembers (More Than 10% Higher Than in 2020) | Oct 13 16:40 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Classic FUD. Microsoft propaganda site blames "GoLang" and warns about "Linux" because someone wrote some malware and GoLang and tries to trick people into installing it. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-alchimist-attack-framework-targets-windows-macos-linux/ | Oct 13 16:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bleepingcomputer.com | New Alchimist attack framework targets Windows, macOS, Linux | Oct 13 16:53 | |
| schestowitz-TR | -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.bleepingcomputer.com | New Alchimist attack framework targets Windows, macOS, Linux | Oct 13 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Microsoft is trying to shamelessly twist cross-platform compatibility as an undesirable thing and security nightmare. | Oct 13 16:53 |
| Techrights-sec | and that's when they even acknowledge non-m$ platforms | Oct 13 16:58 |
| Techrights-sec | normally in m$ world view, cross-platform means only working across several | Oct 13 16:58 |
| Techrights-sec | of the latest version of m$ windows | Oct 13 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | all versions of Vista | Oct 13 16:58 |
| Techrights-sec | basically | Oct 13 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | this app [sic] is cross-platform because it works in debian, kylin, sparky, and other debian derivs | Oct 13 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | (hardly even multi-platform) | Oct 13 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | bill gates believes in freedom of the press because he bribes 1000 newspapers, not just 1 | Oct 13 17:01 |
| Techrights-sec | x86 | Oct 13 17:03 |
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| Techrights-sec | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=f6wtF_2eyrU | Oct 13 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Glyn Moody: Walled Culture - A Journey Behind the Copyright Bricks - Invidious | Oct 13 17:35 | |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks | Oct 13 17:36 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Oct 13 17:41 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> How music platform Corite is turning true fans into digital street teams - Walled Culture https://walledculture.org/how-music-platform-corite-is-turning-true-fans-into-digital-street-teams/ | Oct 13 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/how-music-platform-corite-is-turning-true-fans-into-digital-street-teams/ ) | Oct 13 17:43 | |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to agree on how to deal with walled culture | Oct 13 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | you check, I check, or perl checks | Oct 13 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | at the moment there is duplication of effort, he has just published an item | Oct 13 17:43 |
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| Techrights-sec | Better to check manually since the material seems quite good and very relevant | Oct 13 17:50 |
| Techrights-sec | That way it is more likely to get the positive attention it deserves. | Oct 13 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, I will keep on reading it in quiterss | Oct 13 17:50 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "I'v started a new Gemini mailing list." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~sario528/gemlog/2022-10-13.gmi | Oct 13 18:22 |
| Techrights-sec | t is more likely to get the positive attention it deserves. | Oct 13 18:32 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 13 18:32 |
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| schestowitz-TR | ] <schestowitz[TR]> Gannett? | Oct 13 21:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | [21:04] <schestowitz[TR]> GOOD | Oct 13 21:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | [21:04] <starstreak> schestowitz[TR], :) | Oct 13 21:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | [21:04] <schestowitz[TR]> they are malicious sites | Oct 13 21:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | [21:04] <schestowitz[TR]> thatharm visitors | Oct 13 21:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | [21:04] <DaemonFC> " The nation’s largest newspaper chain, Gannett, continued its cost cutting measures today, announcing a hiring freeze, a mandatory unpaid five-day leave for every employee this December, a six-month sabbatical, a suspension of 401K matches from the company, voluntary severance offer for those who want to retire or leave the company and an optional four-day workweek." | Oct 13 21:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | [21:04] <schestowitz[TR]> also propaganda network | Oct 13 21:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | [21:04] <DaemonFC> "Reed’s announcement comes about two months after the company laid off roughly 400 employees — or 3% of its U.S. workforce — at papers across the country, according to a report from flagship title USA Today." | Oct 13 21:05 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Graph: Deaths Involving COVID-19 Increased in the UK https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/13/covid-19-deaths-increasing/ | Oct 13 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Graph: Deaths Involving COVID-19 Increased in the UK | Oct 13 22:33 | |
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