IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, December 16, 2022

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either LT is brainwashed

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or pressured to go along with it

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I still see many downsides

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only more and more over time

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it seems they admit to have governance issue

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and highly unstable APIs

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aside from many other issues

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Probably pressured

Dec 16 02:25

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JAVASCRIPT strikes AGAIN: "cross-site scripting (XSS) vulnerability exists in the web interface" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-346-05

Dec 16 02:25

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | Siemens PLM Help Server | CISA

Dec 16 02:25

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Even all other factors aside, adding two languages means that efforts

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are split and that those that only know one are at a disadvantage because

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they only get half the picture, yet at the same time those that know both

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might not gain the advantage of focusing on one

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LT said he had wasted ("spent") time studying rust

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surely he had had better things to do

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like learning new lang that's not even stabke... in his 50s

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if rust goes titsup, linux needs to step in and adopt the darn github thing

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or rewrite a ton of code under time constraints

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rust needed linux more than linux needed rust

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it's a marketing opportunity

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rust was developed on gulag's payroll

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on microsoft platforms

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That's another point, stability.

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C is quite stable and, more importantly, standardized.

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Yes, I think that is the point, Rust is exploiting Linux to give M$ more of

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a foothold in the programming market.

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s/if rust/when rust/

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rust won't live for 32 yeasrs like linus did

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rust is already have severe internal issues

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those are not even so well hidden

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and the guy you linked to this week even admits this upfront at the start of his blog post

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I forgot his name

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linus and linux should have learned from the past SCM mistake

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it was tridgell's mistake iirc (spelling)

https://doc.rust-lang.org/rustdoc/unstable-features.html

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M$ coninutes to buy faculty menbers at and from universities using the bailout

Dec 16 02:34

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money and perhaps the debt it loads onto new acquisitions.

Dec 16 02:34

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Yes, rust appears not to be planned out beyond some basics

Dec 16 02:34

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Dec 16 02:37

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-doc.rust-lang.org | Unstable features - The rustdoc book

Dec 16 02:37

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rust as a while is not stables in the sense that things change too fast

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so if I wrote x in rust, and then rust had new version, I'd have to spend time rewriting x as y

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it's a waste of time

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that's why i fell in love with bash

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php and python change too fast

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PHP has had, or at least used to have, severe security holes built into the

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design; Furthermore, at its peak popularity many of the most touted functions

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were not complete enough to be usable; In contrast, the corresponding CPAN

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modules were not just complete but quite mature.

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at that time.

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brb, a little overloaded atm

Dec 16 02:45

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6c indoors too

Dec 16 02:45

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too chilly for work at 6C, increase to at least 18C

Dec 16 02:46

schestowitz-TR

eskimo clothing works ok

Dec 16 03:09

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but the problem is the finger while typing (without hot drink)

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seems like I did not leave twitter; instead twitter left all of us

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I hope he buys Facebook next

Dec 16 06:54

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sam varghese mia again

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for nearly a month already

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so all I see is LF puff piece and other worthless parrots

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with zero critical skills or none they are permitted to exercise

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ack

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btw the IEEE link at 04:30 goes to an article relevant to patents, perhaps

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even sw patents. but the gist is that the patents were of no help to even

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a medium-sized company. only the largest have a war chest big enough to

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actually deal with infringers which are actually manufacturing something

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and not NPEs

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Sam has not been around much at IT Wire, and I can't really recall when he

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has last written. I suppose they are setting him aside. I would guess because

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they want to make room for the puff pieces and ads dressed up as articles.

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so even attacking rms repeatedly was not good enough...

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adveertisers want more

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rianne says that in aussie there is ssome epstein scandal brewing

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seems like media protects identities of the perverts

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we need wikielaks

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ack

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Media protecting criminals

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like alex graveley

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because it would hurt microsoft's agenda

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and its anti-gpl "hey hi"

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ack

Dec 16 08:03

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It seems that over the decades there are several interest backing m$ antics

Dec 16 08:29

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against software freedom, perhaps as part of a larger maneuver against

Dec 16 08:29

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freedom, education, and self-determination in general.

Dec 16 08:29

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enemy of my enemy is my friene

Dec 16 08:31

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gulag <3 microsoft

Dec 16 08:31

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they both dislike gpl/copyleft

Dec 16 08:31

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...yeah, covid-19 totally over. rising by 28% in hospitalisations this past week (patients with covid) in England alone. The death tolls will be big when ONS gets around to it...

Dec 16 08:35

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Google built its empire on and because of the GPL so it is hypocritical of them

Dec 16 08:36

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to attack it, but given the large number of microsofters they have brought

Dec 16 08:36

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inside it is not a surprise just a disappointment

Dec 16 08:36

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ack

Dec 16 10:07

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thanks for the info

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many weather records broken this year in many areas

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i think of that as stress-testing a number of things around the home (and work)

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if we can cope with -8, then I reckon things are ok

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the pipe that burst is apparently just the end/nozzle

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so should be easy to re-attach/repair

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i want to see ONS #s

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for dec 5th-17th

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more specifically mortality

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we get figures now affirming very high hospital admission

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being seriously ill is not an option at this time

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the protein shakes seem to be helping with weight loss and rianne has not received reply to 3 out of 4

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tomorrow is my birthday, then we have lots of catching up to do

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36 cupcakes

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/s/not/now/

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good

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s/not/now/ ?

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Nice. What flavor?

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Dec 16 10:24

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the cupcakes are vanilla and choc

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the shakes are strawberry and salted caramel

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we'll check soon if we can get more of these

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when I was young I rarely got these sorts of shakes

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they are like 2 pounds a serving

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in 2000 or so maybe 1 pound a serving

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a can of tune was half the price and more protein

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*tuna

http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/going-rusty-faster/

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What are they made from? It might be possible to make something rather

Dec 16 10:26

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similar.

Dec 16 10:26

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wow, the way things are going at twitter, maybe I'll soon detch tuxmachines's diaspora account from twitter

Dec 16 10:34

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twitter is the "mainstream" gab

Dec 16 10:34

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It's getting that way.

Dec 16 10:47

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Remember that Musks financial backers also set Faux News on its feet and pointed

Dec 16 10:47

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in the direction it has traveled.

Dec 16 10:47

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Dec 16 10:57

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they should rewirte linux in pascal for transmeta arch

Dec 16 10:57

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The Life of Linux Will Be Shortened by a Misguided Adoption of Rust | Techrights

Dec 16 10:57

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i was messing about with javascript and to a lesser extent with vbscript (VERY little) more than 20 years ago

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I lost interest for all sorts of reasons

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it also didn't feel like programming

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but a bunch of 'hacks' some browsers may or may not support

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and it did not age well

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icbm is wiping out red hat's site with mandatory js

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more sites over time

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it also f***ed up the rss feeds

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ibm seems to employ not the cream of the crop

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but the bottom of the barrel

Dec 16 11:03

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they should ship rust runtime with mozilla firefox

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and teach developers to do rust inside web pages

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to run on the client end ;-)

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good for rust "market share"

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google easted a ton of money on rust

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and it was going nowhere

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many people were leaving

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but they didn't give up

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lobbied kernel for 3 years

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created shell (lobby) groups

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until it was nailed into the coffin of torvalds after he had been "disciplined"

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and now they use "linux" as a marketing and "Selling point"

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a lot of rust adopters are just people who think FOSS = Microsoft GitHub

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maybe if google depends on many giuthub things they will up the pressure for linux too to go there

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notice how in every git release announcement the official release links to github

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and then idiots who mentin the release use github as primary source

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as if github is the project manager of git

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this is aggressive takeover

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communities attacks by corporate manuever

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manoeuvre

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i think I will spare ~1 hour a week in productivity by no longer following any football, which became toxic polit

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ics

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it was always political, but this flavour of politics is too extreme

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i am trying to check where else to free up time

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Don't skimp on exercise

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I wonder if Musk pays as much or more than Gates for reputation managment firms

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to astroturf various forums and sites.

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For time management, it can help to occasionally prioritize things as in what

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is objectively the best use of your time at any given moment. It's hard to

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fit into soceity if one becomes to efficient and low bullshit though

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one leads to showoff, envy, then consumerism, and finally debt and bad health

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The showing off, envy, and consumerism are not only a sign of the times but

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might also be part of why FOSS is having such a hard time. (only part of

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the reason) That would be because many have been trained to aim to either

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get over on other people, thus hostility to cooperation. It would also be

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because they have also been trained to have self worth not just based on

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comparison (envy) to others but also in having something the others don't or

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just flat out deny others access. This idea of helping everyone advance is

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anathema to what's on TV (neftlix etc) and social control media.

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precisely, biab

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back

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still going through links

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many linux (ish) sites repost articles from 5-10 years ago

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those with many comments on them

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hoping those will seem new

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Also many companies have been training the population that expense in and of

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itself is a goal; thus utter garbage vehicles and service like Mercedes having

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any market at all, same for several other brands of vehicle

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Yes there has been a dreadful slowdown in professional articles; It is *very*

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time consuming to try to compensate with blog material but probably worth it

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in the long run.

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people keep mentioning netflix

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I never saw it (that I know of)

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are they operaint at a loss atm?

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/me checks latest rumours re msft layoffs

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NHS England: We had 27,830 COVID-19 cases this past week and 5,250 COVID hospitalisations (of hospitalisations of people who test positive for COVID). So do 20% of those with COVID-19 end up parcelled into a hospital bed? OR... should we be TESTED more to CURB the spread?

Dec 16 11:44

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Becoming blind to COVID-19 does not mean defeating it. It just helps it spread and do damage. Meanwhile, 2.2 million Brits report themselves as suffering long COVID (they're afraid to tell their employer; they hide it). Almost a million are unable to work due to illness. Working age people... cannot work due to sickness; total number of deaths per week soared. All age groups impacted.

Dec 16 11:47

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since 2008 it has seems safe to assume most companies were lying about their finances

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and even those who claim to profit were operating at a loss due to debt/borrowings

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but it was mostly about optics

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the madoff way

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pretends to be big, hope it'll become a reality and liabilities can be written off later

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don't know how ftx was set up, perhaps similarly

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Dec 16 12:00

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[12:02] <schestowitz[TR]> 6 months ago: "Facebook and Netflix report losses, the stocks immediately crumble. GameStop reports loss, it’s as nothing has happened. GameStop is impenetrable by fud."

Dec 16 12:02

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Notice a trajectory?

https://www.universityworldnews.com/post.php?story=20220714121042776

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https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/64-americans-today-think-it-sometimes-justified-lie-compared-42-2006

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That too goes against FOSS' very mechanism of operation.

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Part of the reasons that companies lie are it's taught to MBAs as ok, and

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Enron-style accounting is established as the way to do business.

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.universityworldnews.com | Universities have an urgent mission: Make lying wrong again

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Peer reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/64-americans-today-think-it-sometimes-justified-lie-compared-42-2006 )

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and tolerated by the tax authorities and SEC

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my ongoing series will cover some of that

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as I saw it from closer

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expedited it a bit to finish the report before year's end

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then, next year, there's a lot more

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months ago I reposted an old video of kirk weibe

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on how 90% of the us public thought cheating or lying was ok

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a sharp increase

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maybe it has worsened since then

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anyway, I won't work with liars

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I have my boundaries

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so netflix did report losses

Dec 16 12:12

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unless things change (headcount etc.)

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the longer it runs, the more money it loses

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probably same w/ gulagtube

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hemce endless ads

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but those ads lower the userbase, over time

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so it may be mission impossible to swing into profit

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twitter drove away many users to only temporarily make a few quarters' profit

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Yes, the 90% figure was what I recall, so if you add that to the 2006 and 2019

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data the trajectory is really clear. It seems that 'getting ahead' has been

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redefined to getting over on peope and that's the opposite of cooparation so

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the very fabric of society has turned against FOSS. So it's even lesss a

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technical question than before and m$ entering politics and the various

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three-letter agencies and their foreign counterparts see that it stays that way.

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Fusion. Really? ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/16/fusion-really/ | Source: Counter Punch

Dec 16 12:37

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fusion. Really? - CounterPunch.org

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They only look a few months ahead at most so even if they are eating the seed

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corn all they see is the feast at the moment. :(

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Netflix and the other streaming sites don't quite have the same problem as

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YouTube but it is similar. Theirs is more a bandwidth bottleneck since their

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repetoire of films is much smaller so it is a matter of shipping hard drives

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or even whole servers around the country pre-loaded with hi-res film files.

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Those sit at key junctions on the network to reduce the number of hops between

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the customer and the video being streamed.

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Fusion. Really? ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/16/fusion-really/ | Source: Counter Punch

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"Thus there would be four regrettable problems ..."

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Nothing is perfect but it would be a great advantage, regardless of the method

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of production, to have room temperature superconductors.

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That way the

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production could be vastly distant from the usage. Wind and sun are available

Dec 16 12:46

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somewhere all the time but not everywhere all the time.

Dec 16 12:46

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there are problems other than this (sorry to interject pessimistically)

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because we cannot east electricity or sun

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(though sun can feed plants)

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humans also produce a lot of wate

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and then there is water management and conflict

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overpopulation goes beyond climate change or cost of power

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maybe soon they'll make models for terraforming the poles to grow food

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human would reacr by doubling, again

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/s/wate/waste/

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https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/12/16/drm-q4.html !!!

Dec 16 12:50

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yingtongli.me | DRM Round-up: IDAD 2022

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if you call them "books", then they should be booked

Dec 16 12:55

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not compressed or even encrypted binary coredumps

Dec 16 12:55

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databases with articles are even better than today's 'e' 'books'

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ack

Dec 16 13:00

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"i told my son to bring me a desk; he gave me an e-desk with a spyphone"

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"I said, wtf? I need to do actual work!"

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a tansition from analogue to digital can only be properly justified if the leap resulted in better value

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to the user and no erosion of rights

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the EU (competition) has just said something to the latter's effect

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which I liked

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reminded me of richard from PP Sweden

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RMS spoke about this too, but I think a lot later

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meanwhile I still listen to music I've carried forward since the 1990s