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schestowitz-TR2yes, I saw your messageAug 17 04:47
schestowitz-TR2migration went OKAug 17 04:47
schestowitz-TR2this old machine seems to panic a little in rekonqAug 17 04:47
schestowitz-TR2had to reboot it twice this past nightAug 17 04:47
schestowitz-TR2but it's not an important PCAug 17 04:47
schestowitz-TR2ipfs went OK, in cron :-)Aug 17 04:49
schestowitz-TR2also, each reboot on any machine helps push me to refactor the layoutAug 17 04:49
schestowitz-TR2like, I removed the tuxmachines monitoring hereAug 17 04:49
schestowitz-TR2next, I'll unplug old backupsAug 17 04:49
schestowitz-TR2I also update my kde nepon machine, first reboot in 3 monthsAug 17 04:49
schestowitz-TR2we'll see is RAM leaks have been mitigated sinceAug 17 04:49
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schestowitz-TR2The latest version of Thunderbird has some bad usability regressions, apparentyAug 17 05:04
schestowitz-TR2introduced on purpose.  I'm not sure how to override them.  Baker is out toAug 17 05:04
schestowitz-TR2kill Thunderbird and then Firefox.Aug 17 05:04
Techrights-sec2The latest version of Thunderbird has some bad usability regressions, apparentyAug 17 05:06
Techrights-sec2introduced on purpose.  I'm not sure how to override them.  Baker is out toAug 17 05:06
Techrights-sec2kill Thunderbird and then Firefox.Aug 17 05:06
Techrights-sec2what was changed that IPFS now works in cron?Aug 17 05:06
Techrights-sec2thunderbird menus with white text on off-white backgrounds :(Aug 17 05:06
schestowitz-TR2Thunderbird has a new strategy and business partnersAug 17 05:07
schestowitz-TR2"apps" and allAug 17 05:07
schestowitz-TR2you fixed ipfsAug 17 05:07
schestowitz-TR2I only made monior changes after thisAug 17 05:07
schestowitz-TR2and it works nowAug 17 05:07
Techrights-sec2ohAug 17 05:07
Techrights-sec2okAug 17 05:07
schestowitz-TR2so I've logged off and will let it do its thingAug 17 05:07
Techrights-sec2biabAug 17 05:10
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schestowitzgulag has begun ramping up its indexing of the new site: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Programming+Leftovers%22&client=pub-2479740519054892&hl=en&biw=1056&bih=980&ei=MIX8YpKbBIjYgAactaSYBw&ved=0ahUKEwiS86K6ms35AhUILMAKHZwaCXM4ChDh1QMIDg&uact=5&oq=%22Programming+Leftovers%22&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EANKBAhBGAFKBAhGGABQ3wdYngxg_AxoAXAAeACAAVKIAaEBkgEBMpgBAKABAaABAsABAQ&sclient=gws-wizAug 17 07:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-"Programming Leftovers" - Google SearchAug 17 07:07
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schestowitz-TR2I was very happy with how things went on last nightAug 17 07:11
schestowitz-TR2I was anticipating at least SOME obstaclesAug 17 07:11
schestowitz-TR2I monitor the sort of traffic the old site getsAug 17 07:11
schestowitz-TR2lots of valuable archives, 165,000+ nodesAug 17 07:11
schestowitz-TR2and the new CMS copes fine with the increas ein load, it does not sweat at allAug 17 07:11
Techrights-sec2ackAug 17 07:11
Techrights-sec2good news thenAug 17 07:11
schestowitz-TR2the only limit is b/w-relatedAug 17 07:11
schestowitz-TR2so it could in theory serve thousands of pages per minute without sweatingAug 17 07:11
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1558845371392167938Aug 17 07:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Shouting out to @tuxmachines to check your server. SSL certificate-based error messages are flying on both Chrome a… https://t.co/z0dI7eS1ddAug 17 07:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Shouting out to @tuxmachines to check your server. SSL certificate-based error messages are flying on both Chrome a… https://t.co/z0dI7eS1ddAug 17 07:13
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schestowitzThat's just the CA cartel frivilously warning about sites that issue their own certificates instead of outsourcing "trust" to monopolies and oligopolies (like 'secure' boot); it's a deliberate bug in the browser. Disregard or use http.Aug 17 07:15
schestowitz-TR2one good thing is that all "tweets" or TM contain also the gemini addressAug 17 07:18
schestowitz-TR2even if people don't click on these or cannot open themAug 17 07:18
schestowitz-TR2that at least raises awareness among peopleAug 17 07:18
schestowitz-TR2a necessary first stepAug 17 07:18
schestowitz-TR2gemini clients don't have this LE-like mentalityAug 17 07:18
schestowitz-TR2only about 8% of capsules use the CA cartelAug 17 07:18
schestowitzChristine Hall (@BrideOfLinux): "Shouting out to @tuxmachines to check your server. SSL certificate-based error messages are flying on both Chrome and Firefox browsers."|nitter.it ⚓ https://nitter.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1558845371392167938 ䷉ Source: nitter | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nitter.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1558845371392167938Aug 17 07:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Christine Hall (@BrideOfLinux): "Shouting out to @tuxmachines to check your server. SSL certificate-based error messages are flying on both Chrome and Firefox browsers."|nitter.itAug 17 07:19
Techrights-sec2however the risks there is that the libraries they are built with start toAug 17 07:19
Techrights-sec2lock out certificates which have not been vouched for by large corporationsAug 17 07:19
schestowitz-TR2notice the similarity to 'secure' bootAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2they start with recommendationAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2then intimidationAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2then outright locking outAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2thius iks a form of blackmail for lockdownAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2resistance will be needed by explaining to people what's happeningAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2now GNOME web apparently says "security problem" and blocks itAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2unless one uses httpAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2old browsers might not even have tls supportAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2this is not about securityAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2as I said bneoreAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2more so after russian invasionAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2one day revoking certs can be weaponisedAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2fore outright censorshipAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2not at dns levelAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2but at LE (et al) levelAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2very scary thought, no?Aug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2like lenono shouting and scoffing at bsd and LinuxAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2like only MalwareSoft (TM) is "secure"Aug 17 07:22
Techrights-sec2yes, is is very similar to restricted boot, being about control and suchAug 17 07:22
Techrights-sec2that's an important point, those that control the signing authorities canAug 17 07:22
Techrights-sec2issue revocations at any time they feel like itAug 17 07:22
schestowitz-TR2I remind people they revoked millions of certs beforeAug 17 07:24
schestowitz-TR2without even properly expaining what had happenedAug 17 07:24
schestowitz-TR2LE = github (Microsoft, NSA, proprietary)Aug 17 07:24
schestowitz-TR2also secretive Aug 17 07:24
schestowitz-TR2it's the same address as LF, same bean counterAug 17 07:24
schestowitz-TR2same boardAug 17 07:24
Techrights-sec2that's an important point, those that control the signing authorities canAug 17 07:28
Techrights-sec2issue revocations at any time they feel like itAug 17 07:28
Techrights-sec2and for any reason they feel likeAug 17 07:28
Techrights-sec2that's a good topic to revisit in a video or two  Aug 17 07:28
Techrights-sec2bean counters are popular with certain interests since they steer the          Aug 17 07:28
Techrights-sec2organizations they are in away from actually acting on their original chartersAug 17 07:28
schestowitz-TR2I want to make a side point: they say https= security=privacy=goodAug 17 07:28
schestowitz-TR2even when the companies you tansmit data (banks, FB, Gmail etc.)Aug 17 07:28
schestowitz-TR2not only retain all this data but pass it aroundAug 17 07:28
schestowitz-TR2so it's an attack granularity thingAug 17 07:28
schestowitz-TR2maybe your ISP is obliviousAug 17 07:28
schestowitz-TR2but that's one level of severalAug 17 07:28
schestowitz-TR2even today's so-called 'browsers' keep track of what you visit (the chrom* ones for sure)Aug 17 07:28
schestowitz-TR2never mind AV software, toolbars, etc. in the name of "security"Aug 17 07:28
schestowitz-TR2boiling frog analogy: warm, hot, deadAug 17 07:29
schestowitz-TR2recommend, intimidate, block (outright)Aug 17 07:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/erbanku/status/1555220426254475265Aug 17 07:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@erbanku: @tuxmachines Isn’t it delayed? https://t.co/Oepj4Nd0ueAug 17 07:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/enczew/status/1553466656541876224Aug 17 07:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@enczew: #Linux https://t.co/3jY0buba8HAug 17 07:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tuxmachines: Linux Mint 21 “Vanessa” Is Now Available for Download, This Is What’s New • Tux Machines ⇨ https://t.co/dI7W6JausvAug 17 07:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gy_sh1n/status/1550611491103117314Aug 17 07:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gy_sh1n: @tuxmachines Does anybody still use Apache OpenOffice? #FOSSAug 17 07:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SyS_Config/status/1548741823476162561Aug 17 07:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SyS_Config: Check and ask away before you buy any pc or laptop peoplez . If you can't boot Linux..don't buy it. https://t.co/WIGnZneOZAAug 17 07:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tuxmachines: Microsoft stopped Lenovo from booting Linux https://t.co/RyPjx4tV0WAug 17 07:32
schestowitz-TR2Check and ask if your Web browser blocks sites that don't conform to Pentagon-funded agenda; if you cannot access such sites, don't download itAug 17 07:33
schestowitz-TR2(yes, it's too late by then)Aug 17 07:33
schestowitz-TR2agenda creepAug 17 07:33
schestowitz-TR2someone compared TR to antivaxxers over TOFUAug 17 07:38
schestowitz-TR2I noticed again, now criticising FBI is "extremistr"Aug 17 07:38
schestowitz-TR2criticising voting machines is antisemetic ("election denier")Aug 17 07:38
schestowitz-TR2all those stigmas won't help usAug 17 07:38
schestowitz-TR2they give us temporary entertainment while we serve to protect injusticesAug 17 07:38
schestowitz-TR2apropos injustice, zoe kooyman just posted a decent articleAug 17 07:38
schestowitz-TR2and fsf did mandarin and espanol translations of a videoAug 17 07:38
schestowitz-TR2so they're not idle as I insinuated the other dayAug 17 07:38
schestowitz-TR2you'll know they dumped the shapr when they blog like today's EFFAug 17 07:38
schestowitz-TR2*jumped the sharkAug 17 07:38
schestowitz-TR2added tuxmahcines site monitoring to cavan, using netsurfAug 17 08:16
Techrights-sec2ackAug 17 08:32
Techrights-sec2"""Aug 17 08:32
Techrights-sec2Its frustrating when you spend years if not decades helping such companies and then they go around your back to help their own enemies.Aug 17 08:32
Techrights-sec2"""Aug 17 08:32
Techrights-sec2fixed ;)Aug 17 08:32
schestowitz-TR2Did you also fix this in the drop-quote part?Aug 17 08:32
schestowitz-TR2if today is hectic at your end, then I can focus on publishing posts/videosAug 17 08:51
schestowitz-TR2it's good that august has been so slow, less guilt about not writing muchAug 17 08:52
schestowitz-TR2TM gemini capsule at 3k requests nowAug 17 08:52
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Techrights-sec2can you show a URl for the drop quote part?  I can look at it later.Aug 17 09:38
schestowitz-TR2maybe I misinterpreted what you saidAug 17 09:39
schestowitz-TR2I thought you had edited my postAug 17 09:39
schestowitz-TR2maybe you just sort of joked and made a pointAug 17 09:39
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Techrights-sec2no, it was a play on "there. fixed that for you."Aug 17 10:31
Techrights-sec2if I had seen it before it was published I would have suggested a correctionAug 17 10:31
Techrights-sec2but would not go in after it has already been published at allAug 17 10:31
Techrights-sec2so yes it was trying to be a jokeAug 17 10:31
schestowitz-TR2I wqas just watching the recent robertson video on lennartsoftAug 17 10:31
schestowitz-TR2I had linked to it at the time without watching itAug 17 10:31
schestowitz-TR2truly disappointingAug 17 10:31
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schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> techrepublic is a dying site. It used to TRY to produce some news. Then it turned to Microsoft shilling. Now, as a last recourse, this sister site of ZDNet tries to reinvent itself as diploma mill peddler. Even made a deal with LINUNTODAY to shill these scams.Aug 17 12:05
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schestowitz-TR2Just wrote my first 'blog post' in new TMAug 17 13:29
Techrights-sec2great!Aug 17 13:29
Techrights-sec2gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/welcome_new_tm.gmiAug 17 13:29
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schestowitzis it just lagrance, or does gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/What_s_the_difference_between_apt_get_upgrade_vs_dist_upgrade.gmi show latin letter for apostrophe?Aug 17 14:26
schestowitz-TR2*lagrangeAug 17 14:26
Techrights-sec2checkingAug 17 14:35
Techrights-sec2in which part?  The body renders ok in Amfora; the problematic charactersAug 17 14:35
Techrights-sec2are removed from the URL / slug because both Amfora and Lagrange seem to chokeAug 17 14:35
Techrights-sec2on them even though they seem like they ought to be perfectly validAug 17 14:35
Techrights-sec2lagrange is not in the Devuan repository  Aug 17 14:35
schestowitz-TR2checking gain, the title is showing up ok in the index of articlesAug 17 14:37
schestowitz-TR2*againAug 17 14:37
schestowitz-TR2then, in the page itself, 3 places where slanted apostrphe is ussed "smart quotes") shows up as "a" with accent on top of itAug 17 14:37
Techrights-sec2not heree :/Aug 17 14:37
schestowitz-TR2good, so it's a lagrange problemAug 17 14:38
schestowitz-TR2thanksAug 17 14:38
Techrights-sec2npAug 17 14:38
Techrights-sec2can you quote a phrase where the problem can be seen?  I can check specificallyAug 17 14:41
Techrights-sec2then, but for now the who page renders ok in Amfora.  Aug 17 14:41
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schestowitz-TR2ytalk does notsupport such accents, but the title and end of body have 3 such cases in totalAug 17 14:42
schestowitz-TR2I tried changing fonts just now and no difference was madeAug 17 14:42
Techrights-sec2it is important to have the surrounding wordsAug 17 14:43
Techrights-sec2It'd be a matter of characterset not font / typefaceAug 17 14:43
Techrights-sec2"Be aware we're..."Aug 17 14:43
schestowitz-TR2i guess utf is so [u]niversal that some clients don't process it rightAug 17 14:43
Techrights-sec2neith lagrange nor amfora seem to allow it in the URLs Aug 17 14:47
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schestowitzhttps://www.fosslife.org/meet-brainjs-javascript-library-deploying-neural-networksAug 17 17:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | Meet Brain.js – A JavaScript Library for Deploying Neural NetworksAug 17 17:13
schestowitz"Aug 17 17:13
schestowitzBrain.js is a JavaScript library for deploying a neural network in the browser or on Node.js, writes Richard MacManus. “It uses a computer’s graphics processing unit (GPU) for calculations, or pure JavaScript when GPU isn’t available.”Aug 17 17:13
schestowitzA key benefit of Brain.js, says MacManus, lies in its use of JavaScript — the world’s most popular web programming language.Aug 17 17:13
schestowitzIn this article, MacManus explains more about Brain.js, describing its origins and how it can be used.Aug 17 17:13
schestowitz"Aug 17 17:14
schestowitz-TR2Oh, I get "Unable to connect" errorAug 17 17:30
schestowitz-TR2when trying to modify or add a nodeAug 17 17:30
schestowitz-TR2"Lookup error"Aug 17 17:30
schestowitz-TR2that would explain why Marius could not add a pageAug 17 17:30
Techrights-sec2checkingAug 17 17:30
Techrights-sec2I was just able to add a page Aug 17 17:30
Techrights-sec2At that stage the database is all set, and the connection problem would haveAug 17 17:33
Techrights-sec2been with the MQTT brokerAug 17 17:33
schestowitz-TR2oh it was modified ok after allAug 17 17:33
schestowitz-TR2I wonder that this alert is aboutAug 17 17:33
schestowitz-TR2and I am mosty, guessing if marius didn't add the page becausae he triedAug 17 17:33
schestowitz-TR2never mind, false alartAug 17 17:33
schestowitz-TR2except it did show an alaertAug 17 17:33
schestowitz-TR2after "Pinging via <MQTTAug 17 17:33
schestowitz-TR2"Aug 17 17:33
schestowitz-TR2maybe that's what it warned aboutAug 17 17:33
schestowitz-TR2yes, most likely explanationAug 17 17:33
Techrights-sec2there are a lot of attacks against the broker but not as many as thereAug 17 17:36
Techrights-sec2were against SSH and HTTP/S  However, the log file puts the connection info  Aug 17 17:36
Techrights-sec2on a separate line from everything else so it is not possible, even withAug 17 17:36
Techrights-sec2AWK or Perl, to stitch the events together to identify culprits.Aug 17 17:36
Techrights-sec2It'd be easier to whitelist the source networks, and the add- and update- scripts are on a known host.  So that is easy to add too. Aug 17 17:40
schestowitz-TR2how do you delete a page via the api? I saw you removed two test pages of yours before...Aug 17 17:41
Techrights-sec2tm-update-entry-sql.pl -d -u [url]Aug 17 17:42
Techrights-sec2or Aug 17 17:42
Techrights-sec2tm-update-entry-sql.pl -d -r [recordnumber]Aug 17 17:42
schestowitz-TR2thanks, I assume you were about to use thatAug 17 17:44
schestowitz-TR2so short story is, I got confused by that warning, that seems related to pinging Aug 17 17:44
schestowitz-TR2I didn't know of marius actually having issuesAug 17 17:44
schestowitz-TR2it's just that he typically adds a page minutes after publishing in his own sireAug 17 17:44
schestowitz-TR2*(siteAug 17 17:44
Techrights-sec2npAug 17 17:45
Techrights-sec2yesAug 17 17:45
Techrights-sec2then the refresh-site-from-db.sh must be run manually afterwardsAug 17 17:45
Techrights-sec2the warning sounds like it was at the MQTT stage since SQLite3 is accessed onlyAug 17 17:45
Techrights-sec2via the file system anyway.Aug 17 17:45
schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> COVID-19 Death Toll This August More Than 10 Times Higher Than in August 2020 (So Far) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/17/covid19-august/Aug 17 17:58
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schestowitz-TR2is it OK for me to remove the test page? foo bar?Aug 17 17:58
schestowitz-TR2done. record deleted. my first time :-)Aug 17 18:00
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schestowitz-TR2needed some confidence, it names that as node 648Aug 17 18:06
schestowitz-TR2wow, we sure add nodes fastAug 17 18:06
schestowitz-TR2about 1500 per monthAug 17 18:06
schestowitz-TR2i assume number is primary key and the algo leaps past "missing" numbers after sorting by idAug 17 18:06
Techrights-sec2excellentAug 17 18:07
Techrights-sec2I figure it will be a rarely used function so it is not parto f the wrapper Aug 17 18:07
Techrights-sec2scriptsAug 17 18:07
Techrights-sec2:)Aug 17 18:07
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Techrights-sec2yes it is a key but my ineptitude with SQL shows and much of what could beAug 17 18:08
Techrights-sec2handled automatically via SQLite3 is managed inside of the perl scripts.  Aug 17 18:08
Techrights-sec2There wasn't time to go back and fix that before it went live ;PAug 17 18:08
Techrights-sec2I can experiment with some stuff offline later on and see what I can learnAug 17 18:08
Techrights-sec2about keys, foreign keys, references, and cascading deletions.Aug 17 18:08
schestowitz-TR2all the needs are met already and there are no technical issues except external onesAug 17 18:10
schestowitz-TR2site archive pages or search are very muchb peripheral to the whole thing in the sense that they are read-oinly operationsAug 17 18:10
schestowitz-TR2I'm VERY garetful for this CMSAug 17 18:10
schestowitz-TR2maybe we should give it a name at some pointAug 17 18:10
schestowitz-TR2even phoronix gave its CMS a nameAug 17 18:10
Techrights-sec2np it's a relief for me to see the simplified UI Aug 17 18:11
Techrights-sec2a rude name?Aug 17 18:11
schestowitz-TR2I used to chat with michael about itAug 17 18:14
schestowitz-TR2he did another microsoft post todayAug 17 18:14
schestowitz-TR2after one yesterdayAug 17 18:14
schestowitz-TR2I'm cynical about the whole thingAug 17 18:14
schestowitz-TR2wecahatted about his old cms giving very cryptic urls like hashesAug 17 18:14
schestowitz-TR2not even numbersAug 17 18:14
schestowitz-TR2he said he would "fix" it and eventually didAug 17 18:14
schestowitz-TR2today in the shower I had a thought about drupalAug 17 18:14
schestowitz-TR2easy toi installAug 17 18:14
schestowitz-TR2like birthing a kidAug 17 18:14
schestowitz-TR2but then get ready to patch it every month for the next decadesAug 17 18:14
schestowitz-TR2MattL from SFF compalined about wordpress being like this (over a decade ago)Aug 17 18:14
Techrights-sec2SLOC    Directory       SLOC-by-Language (Sorted)Aug 17 18:15
Techrights-sec23692    top_dir         perl=3548,sh=144Aug 17 18:15
Techrights-sec2Totals grouped by language (dominant language first):Aug 17 18:15
Techrights-sec2perl:          3548 (96.10%)Aug 17 18:15
Techrights-sec2sh:             144 (3.90%)Aug 17 18:15
Techrights-sec2Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC)                = 3,692Aug 17 18:15
Techrights-sec2Development Effort Estimate, Person-Years (Person-Months) = 0.79 (9.46)Aug 17 18:16
Techrights-sec2 (Basic COCOMO model, Person-Months = 2.4 * (KSLOC**1.05))Aug 17 18:16
Techrights-sec2Schedule Estimate, Years (Months)                         = 0.49 (5.87)Aug 17 18:16
Techrights-sec2 (Basic COCOMO model, Months = 2.5 * (person-months**0.38))Aug 17 18:16
Techrights-sec2Estimated Average Number of Developers (Effort/Schedule)  = 1.61Aug 17 18:16
Techrights-sec2an advantage to most static site generators is that they don't have anyAug 17 18:16
schestowitz-TR2ackAug 17 18:16
Techrights-sec2web-facing parts.  However, shell access is a whole other can of worms. Aug 17 18:16
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