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schestowitz-TRnobody knowsJan 18 00:45
schestowitz-TRexcept liars who claim to kJan 18 00:45
schestowitz-TRnowJan 18 00:45
schestowitz-TR*knowJan 18 00:45
schestowitz-TRor claim to control the futureJan 18 00:45
schestowitz-TRno single person has THAT much powerJan 18 00:45
schestowitz-TRnot even PutinJan 18 00:45
schestowitz-TRhaving said thatJan 18 00:46
schestowitz-TR1) keep healthyJan 18 00:46
schestowitz-TR2) keep good knowledgeJan 18 00:46
schestowitz-TRwith (1) you are safe for the top of the pyramid of "needs" (Maslow)Jan 18 00:46
schestowitz-TR(2) is good if you want gainful employment in the futureJan 18 00:47
schestowitz-TRsome people let (1) and (2) stagnateJan 18 00:47
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techrigthssecthat was probably when I ran an update of the packages but it said nothing about\Jan 18 03:01
techrigthssecremoving anything, just updating afiakJan 18 03:01
techrigthssecby the way there were / are a lot of hotlinks in the tm galleryJan 18 03:01
schestowitz-TRin the original (old) or static )new)?Jan 18 03:01
schestowitz-TRi didn't even know gulag analytics was in thereJan 18 03:01
schestowitz-TROTAJan 18 03:07
schestowitz-TRshould I do a video about MSFT layoffs? or no need? (mind you, it's in "the news" already; we 'don't matter' now)Jan 18 03:07
schestowitz-TR8k+ requests over gemini https proxy yesterdayJan 18 03:07
schestowitz-TRmsft layoffs and mjgJan 18 03:07
schestowitz-TROTAJan 18 03:07
schestowitz-TRbiabJan 18 03:07
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techrigthssecThe screen shots are probably now complete in the tm-new galleryJan 18 04:31
techrigthssecThere are still some hotlinks in there somewhere, but I have not hunted them    Jan 18 04:31
techrigthssecdown.   There are however some accidental captures of the tm main page and Jan 18 04:31
techrigthssecthey can be removed and the links to them replaced with links to tm-new, butJan 18 04:31
techrigthssecthat will take a bit of thought first.   Jan 18 04:31
techrigthssecMaybe the orphaned file names could be culled too.  Jan 18 04:31
techrigthssecShould any javascript at all be allowed to remain?Jan 18 04:31
schestowitz-TRi think js is only in the dropdown box for screenshot resJan 18 04:31
techrigthssecI haven't tested if it evem works in the archived version.  I presume that itJan 18 04:35
techrigthssecought to though.  Jan 18 04:35
techrigthssecNope.  It seems not to.  The link below it does work, however.Jan 18 04:35
schestowitz-TRdraftJan 18 04:44
techrigthsseccheckingJan 18 04:48
techrigthssecThe bold face text near the bottom is brokenJan 18 04:50
techrigthssecs/If I could do this/If I can do this/Jan 18 04:50
techrigthssecRemember that m$ makes journalists toe the line to retain their "access" toJan 18 04:50
techrigthssecofficial channels of information.  Link to the relevant PXE from Comes v M$Jan 18 04:50
techrigthssecThe phrase "XBox sales lose the company money!" is what should be highlightedJan 18 04:50
techrigthssecin bold, not the restJan 18 04:50
techrigthssecA few words about how/why Azure is failing could be useful. Jan 18 04:50
schestowitz-TRediting, thanksJan 18 04:55
schestowitz-TRi assume current msfters might watch the videoJan 18 04:55
techrigthssecXbox has not ever really been much about being a games console but has beenJan 18 04:55
techrigthssecabout making a test bed for DRM and other lock-in using commodity hardware.Jan 18 04:55
schestowitz-TRand try to convince them to leaveJan 18 04:55
schestowitz-TRcan i quote that?Jan 18 04:55
techrigthssecloose paraphrasing is preferable if possibeJan 18 04:56
psydruideven saying something like not buying any games from companies that get acquired by Microsoft is seen as hostile instead of a decision any person should be able to make for themselvesJan 18 04:59
techrigthssecWell put!Jan 18 05:16
schestowitz-TRjust added a url for letter to hobbyists at the endJan 18 05:17
schestowitz-TRto show how far back this goesJan 18 05:17
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: it is a hate crimeJan 18 05:17
schestowitz-TRcorporations are people, my friend. MinceR likes that quoteJan 18 05:17
techrigthssecExcellent additionJan 18 05:20
schestowitz-TRi could add a reference to the pharma/vaccine business, but it would alienate and distract from the topic at handJan 18 05:22
schestowitz-TRscicnece is now "political" and "divisive"Jan 18 05:22
schestowitz-TRmy nhs "record" can "prove" I support trump and lex jones and... (straw man)Jan 18 05:22
schestowitz-TRthere is that twitter leak about pharma companies asking twitter to censor activists for generic vaccinesJan 18 05:22
schestowitz-TRi.e. no patentsJan 18 05:22
schestowitz-TRyes, those "terrorists" who think public-funded stuff should be... gasp... publicJan 18 05:22
techrigthssecPharma would be a distractionJan 18 05:43
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schestowitz-TRwhoaJan 18 08:00
schestowitz-TRpinkish sky this morning Jan 18 08:00
schestowitz-TRand snowJan 18 08:00
schestowitz-TRvery odd hueJan 18 08:00
schestowitz-TR--Jan 18 08:17
schestowitz-TRtesla makes budget carsJan 18 08:20
schestowitz-TR"budget" AYE QUEJan 18 08:20
schestowitz-TRbuy this green carJan 18 08:20
schestowitz-TRthat runs on power made elsewhereJan 18 08:20
schestowitz-TRdon't pay attention to Tesla whistleblowers, they are just terrorists sceming a mass shootingJan 18 08:20
schestowitz-TR*schemingJan 18 08:20
schestowitz-TRTesla cultists make me more sick than Apple cultistsJan 18 08:20
schestowitz-TRbut both engage in financially self-harming behaviour, so I'm sort of fine with thatJan 18 08:20
techrigthssecackJan 18 08:38
schestowitz-TRthey would be better off SupportingTheEconomy(TM) by spending localJan 18 08:41
schestowitz-TRnot feeding CultOfApple and MuskCult/OPccultJan 18 08:41
schestowitz-TRback in a biotJan 18 08:41
schestowitz-TRworming exerciseJan 18 08:41
schestowitz-TRwe started feeding the birds near us lately, they hang in the trees and are visible from binucularsJan 18 08:41
schestowitz-TRthey are visible from where we exercise, they come to the garden when the cats are not around, and onceJan 18 08:41
schestowitz-TRthey locate one feed the rest followJan 18 08:41
schestowitz-TRbblJan 18 08:41
schestowitz-TRstrategically iw would help to know WHAT and WHERE microsoft does cutsJan 18 10:28
schestowitz-TRa bit too early to check atmJan 18 10:28
schestowitz-TRbecause of gossips HR 1-to-1 meetings todayJan 18 10:28
schestowitz-TRon my 'TODO'Jan 18 10:28
schestowitz-TRI hope they cut off lots of "OS" stuffJan 18 10:28
schestowitz-TRthat would help gnu/linux growJan 18 10:28
techrigthssecMaybe they are cutting "coders" because, given the quality, they can be replacedJan 18 10:45
techrigthssecwith ChatGPT which does a better job they they generally do. ;)Jan 18 10:45
techrigthssecMore seriously cutting the OS stuff would make some sense but what they do Jan 18 10:45
techrigthssecseldom makes sense.  I guess it is about where they see the strongest chancesJan 18 10:45
techrigthssecfor maintaining a monopoly or if they will transition further to "financialization" like Apple has.Jan 18 10:45
schestowitz-TRcatching upJan 18 10:45
schestowitz-TRdraftJan 18 10:46
schestowitz-TR(reading your message)Jan 18 10:46
schestowitz-TRI am not saying OS staff/stuff gets cutJan 18 10:46
schestowitz-TRbut would love to know if t hey do Jan 18 10:46
schestowitz-TRmaybe we'll never find out easilyJan 18 10:46
schestowitz-TRdrawing blood froma  rock and from liarsJan 18 10:46
techrigthssecIt would be difficult to find out in advance and to a certain extent even afterJan 18 10:52
techrigthssecthe fact, for the reasons you mention.Jan 18 10:52
schestowitz-TRwe enjoy the news nonethelessJan 18 10:54
schestowitz-TRthe collectiev achievement of millions of gnu/linux advocatesJan 18 10:54
schestowitz-TRebuzz, DT, groklaw etc.Jan 18 10:54
schestowitz-TRthey can only try to undermine, infiltrate etc.Jan 18 10:54
schestowitz-TRlike paying OSI to call plagiarism "HEY HI"Jan 18 10:54
schestowitz-TROSI is finishedJan 18 10:54
schestowitz-TRAndroid (Linux) Has Kicked Windows to the Curb in African Nations | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/01/18/android-linux-in-africa/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/18/android-linux-in-africa/Jan 18 10:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Android (Linux) Has Kicked Windows to the Curb in African Nations | TechrightsJan 18 10:55
schestowitz-TRgonna check on the bird now to relaxJan 18 10:56
schestowitz-TRand round of coffeeJan 18 10:56
schestowitz-TRonly slept 4 hoursJan 18 10:56
schestowitz-TRrianne woke me up to tell me abotu the perl issueJan 18 10:56
psydruidthey find it hard enough to hire people who are familiar with their technologies, because a whole generation of developers has grown up with free softwareJan 18 11:02
schestowitz-TRthe thing is, they bought githubJan 18 11:03
schestowitz-TRwe need to present good reasons NOT to use itJan 18 11:03
schestowitz-TRso their takeover turns out to be WORTHLESSJan 18 11:03
schestowitz-TRand still make lossesJan 18 11:03
schestowitz-TRthe copilot PLAGIARISM is a good reason to avoid itJan 18 11:03
schestowitz-TRand even SFC, which took Microsoft money, decided to tell people to boycott githubJan 18 11:03
schestowitz-TRso that's a plusJan 18 11:03
techrigthssecOne can hope that the new generation represents a return to Free Software.Jan 18 11:04
schestowitz-TRback with coffeeJan 18 11:09
schestowitz-TRhundreds of small birds outside in the snow and treesJan 18 11:09
techrigthssecSchools tend to search for such students though so that they can be weeded outJan 18 11:09
techrigthssecand those that progress down the M$ pipeline generally lack not just skills butJan 18 11:09
techrigthssecaptitudes necessary for gaining ICT skills.  Jan 18 11:09
techrigthssecMany good reaons are listed in the lawsuit against m$ over its using to stripJan 18 11:32
techrigthssecboth licensing and attribution from the code that chumps have left in GitHubJan 18 11:32
schestowitz-TR[rant] just spent 20 minutes digging through over a dozen "news" reports on the layoffsJan 18 11:33
schestowitz-TRlots wrong with them and barely clues about which divisions affectedJan 18 11:33
schestowitz-TRIOW, not journalism, just parroting, parroting, parrotingJan 18 11:34
techrigthssecPR dressed up as journalismJan 18 11:44
schestowitz-TRAIM has not done attack pieces on LinuxJan 18 11:45
schestowitz-TRafter we called them out on itJan 18 11:45
schestowitz-TRit featured in LinuxToday etc.Jan 18 11:45
schestowitz-TRI'm sure they noticedJan 18 11:45
techrigthssecOr "churnalism" dressed up as newsJan 18 11:47
techrigthssecChurn for the sake of keeping m$ in the news.Jan 18 11:47
techrigthssecbut without critique, analysis, or investigation Jan 18 11:47
techrigthsseclet alone actual criticismJan 18 11:47
techrigthssecYes but they are still M$ "partners" so their goal is to promote M$ above allJan 18 11:47
techrigthssecelse and their backing off is only a tactical move and most likely justJan 18 11:47
techrigthssectemporary at bestJan 18 11:47
schestowitz-TRif the financial "perkjs" steopJan 18 11:48
schestowitz-TRlewiis calls them bribesJan 18 11:48
schestowitz-TRthen they will move to other "topics"Jan 18 11:48
schestowitz-TRor focus on other companies, potential "partners"Jan 18 11:48
schestowitz-TRthat would at least be a step in the "right" directionJan 18 11:48
schestowitz-TRso we need to keep at itJan 18 11:48
schestowitz-TRit does workJan 18 11:48
techrigthssecyesJan 18 11:50
schestowitz-TRtryint to think of more angles to coverJan 18 11:51
schestowitz-TRto be a thorn on their side at a time they hurt a lotJan 18 11:51
schestowitz-TRlike market share erosionJan 18 11:51
schestowitz-TRI could not find out which divisions are affectedJan 18 11:51
schestowitz-TRexcept when reading anon gossip sitesJan 18 11:51
schestowitz-TRbut it should be feasible for good journalists to extractJan 18 11:51
schestowitz-TRinfo from insidersJan 18 11:51
schestowitz-TRthey JUST DO NOT TRY!!!Jan 18 11:51
techrigthssecAnything in the SEC filings or are they still too sanitized to provide Jan 18 11:51
techrigthssecan assessment of any kind?Jan 18 11:51
schestowitz-TRfor SEC they change the buckersJan 18 11:53
schestowitz-TRproduct/brand namesJan 18 11:53
schestowitz-TRand umbrellasJan 18 11:53
schestowitz-TRe.g. "entertainment"Jan 18 11:53
schestowitz-TRvery valueJan 18 11:53
schestowitz-TRand they can add/remove things from that reporting "silo"Jan 18 11:53
schestowitz-TRso SEC is designed badly in case informing shareholders was the intentJan 18 11:53
schestowitz-TRthey have inside/r infoJan 18 11:54
schestowitz-TRwe need insidersJan 18 11:54
schestowitz-TRI have some contactsJan 18 11:54
schestowitz-TRand this time I was spot on, even the dateJan 18 11:54
schestowitz-TR5000+6000=11,0000Jan 18 11:54
schestowitz-TRthose WORKERS only know MICROSOFTISMJan 18 11:54
schestowitz-TRso finding another job is VERY HARD Jan 18 11:54
schestowitz-TRnot just because of the economic "climate"Jan 18 11:54
schestowitz-TRI hope they change occupationJan 18 11:54
schestowitz-TRdo something that does not harm societyJan 18 11:54
schestowitz-TRaccording to gemini stats page, there is another topic/theme now competing with the layoffs :) ^_^Jan 18 11:56
schestowitz-TRadding an over-encompassing wiki page belatedly?Jan 18 12:01
schestowitz-TRit would lend "credibility" (notability)Jan 18 12:01
techrigthssecNot sure     Jan 18 12:02
techrigthssecgemini.techrights.org/2023/01/12/jan-17-layoffs-rumour/ is missing the\Jan 18 12:06
techrigthssecassessment that the downsizing can be about one third of the microserfsJan 18 12:06
techrigthsseccurrently on the payrollJan 18 12:06
schestowitz-TRi saw no such numbersJan 18 12:08
schestowitz-TRmsft says 11k out (not "officially" yet)Jan 18 12:08
schestowitz-TRsame as FBJan 18 12:08
schestowitz-TR11k, one of 3 waves apparentlyJan 18 12:08
schestowitz-TR10%, 10%, 10% (some believe)Jan 18 12:08
schestowitz-TRbut that's FB, not MSFTJan 18 12:08
schestowitz-TRit would be nice to see much deeper cutsJan 18 12:09
schestowitz-TRbut nobody is investigatingJan 18 12:09
schestowitz-TRand what they "reported" oin Sky was easyJan 18 12:09
schestowitz-TRthe only advantage they have is, it is "official" news siteJan 18 12:09
schestowitz-TRand they asked MSFTJan 18 12:09
schestowitz-TRMSFT said, "no comment"Jan 18 12:09
techrigthssecFor what it's worth, you could ask m$ too so that you can point out, too,  Jan 18 12:10
techrigthssecthat they responded with "no comment" or failed to respond at all ...Jan 18 12:10
schestowitz-TRreminds me of the time around 2007 when we emailed microsoft's legal dept.Jan 18 12:10
schestowitz-TRasking for a patent licence for monoJan 18 12:10
schestowitz-TRor similarJan 18 12:10
schestowitz-TRand they did replyJan 18 12:10
schestowitz-TR i wanted to tell you earlier, but reckoned you were already busy with links,Jan 18 12:14
schestowitz-TRthat it would help to have another pair of eyes on:Jan 18 12:14
schestowitz-TR- how many laid offJan 18 12:14
schestowitz-TR- divisionsJan 18 12:14
schestowitz-TR- another round this coming july? Jan 18 12:14
schestowitz-TRas an aside, in tuxmachines I enter many summaries into pages but they vanish as pages ageJan 18 12:14
schestowitz-TRone way to "do them justice" would be deriving from the DB a weekly/monthly pageJan 18 12:14
schestowitz-TRthat contains the "description" for each pageJan 18 12:14
schestowitz-TRso that SEs can pick that up tooJan 18 12:14
schestowitz-TRand navigation also becomes simplerJan 18 12:14
schestowitz-TRwe have date, not categoriesJan 18 12:14
schestowitz-TRand that it fine, spare us the extra work needd in drupal ("taxonomy")Jan 18 12:14
techrigthssecThe few articles on th etopic have been weak and not included details like thatJan 18 12:15
techrigthssecbut the hint is that there are likely more rounds of layoffs to come.Jan 18 12:15
techrigthssecIt would be possible to extract title and description from the db and makeJan 18 12:15
techrigthsseca fresh page.   Can you make a mockup?Jan 18 12:15
techrigthssec(in plain html)Jan 18 12:15
schestowitz-TRI am going to make a mock-up later todayJan 18 12:17
schestowitz-TRfor date, afaik there are too fields. not secondary/primary keys: date added, date last modifiedJan 18 12:17
schestowitz-TRthe code would be super-similar to the code that creates the main gemini page and front pageJan 18 12:17
schestowitz-TRexcept the query SELECT partJan 18 12:17
schestowitz-TRtime range specifiedJan 18 12:17
techrigthssecTitle + Description for last n days sorted descending by date?Jan 18 12:18
schestowitz-TRyes, those two can suffice in long lists, with limits that contrain page size, e.g.  2023 week 1Jan 18 12:21
schestowitz-TRor 1/1/2023 archiveJan 18 12:21
schestowitz-TRJanuary 2023 would be like 1500 linksJan 18 12:21
schestowitz-TRsearch engines penalise pages with over 200 (Google) links, IIRCJan 18 12:21
schestowitz-TRhave not checked for over a decadeJan 18 12:22
schestowitz-TRbut they won't crawl these deepJan 18 12:22
schestowitz-TRcan also be split by author, e.g. WHERE author=joebloggsJan 18 12:22
techrigthssecI'm thinking only one page which would be updated either daily or onceJan 18 12:22
techrigthssecper edit, which ever is a shorter interval.   It is not good to have too manyJan 18 12:22
techrigthssecredundant pages cluttering things.Jan 18 12:22
techrigthssecYes, it can be split by auther.Jan 18 12:22
techrigthssec^authhorJan 18 12:22
techrigthssec^authorJan 18 12:22
techrigthssecgrouping is not a problemJan 18 12:22
schestowitz-TRsuch a page can be generated at the end of each month manually or by cronJan 18 12:25
schestowitz-TRor, if daily, by midnight cronjobJan 18 12:25
schestowitz-TRfor gemini and https it only takes a few seconds to run and spew out the output of the queryJan 18 12:25
schestowitz-TRlinking to the resultant pages can be done manually, e.g. as par tof end-of-month tasksJan 18 12:25
schestowitz-TRbut 1500 links in a page is too much, I thinkJan 18 12:25
schestowitz-TRfor usenet I used to make calendar-like links that then link to subpages, made with MonARCH (ruby)Jan 18 12:25
schestowitz-TR*mhonarc (iirc)Jan 18 12:25
schestowitz-TR"Alas, 2023 is not likely to be any different and will probably be even more chaotic than last year" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/01/18/the-uk-a-return-to-the-past-masquerading-as-the-future/ | Source: Counter PunchJan 18 13:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The UK: a Return to the Past Masquerading as the Future. - CounterPunch.orgJan 18 13:51
schestowitz-TRTwitter censorship for patent cartels ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/big-pharma-pushed-twitter-to-hide-vaccine-equity-tweets-new-report-reveals/ | Source: TruthOutJan 18 15:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Big Pharma Pushed Twitter to Hide Vaccine Equity Tweets, New Report Reveals - TruthoutJan 18 15:31
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schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.pussthecat.org/your_dads_bully/status/1615758254474133521#mJan 18 17:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.pussthecat.org | Cement Mixer Stan (@your_dads_bully): "Techrights . Org... Sounds legit 😂 Bill gates doesn't have anything to do with Microsoft and hasn't for years" | Nitter | PussTheCat.orgJan 18 17:22
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techrigthssecstill polishing the gallery archive, redoing some processes on a RAM disk Jan 18 23:48
techrigthssecnext iteration, for speedJan 18 23:48

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