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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20329264#81c12a006b840139eb0252540039b762 | Mar 20 08:38 |
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| schestowitz__ | "your website could meet basic internet standard by using https" | Mar 20 08:38 |
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| Techrights-sec | Then a SOCKS5 proxy can be run using -D and SSH | Mar 20 12:56 |
| Techrights-sec | just be sue to also set "Proxy DNS when using SOCKS v5" under network settings | Mar 20 12:56 |
| schestowitz__ | looking into this now | Mar 20 12:56 |
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| schestowitz__ | I may need some guidance. I'm in, I assume port forwarding now works | Mar 20 13:11 |
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| Techrights-sec | yes port forwwarding works | Mar 20 13:17 |
| Techrights-sec | you can use the -D option with ssh as per above | Mar 20 13:17 |
| Techrights-sec | then create an extra profile for firefox by launching ff with the -P option | Mar 20 13:17 |
| Techrights-sec | in the new profile, set the SOCKS proxy to match the above | Mar 20 13:17 |
| Techrights-sec | then set it to route DNS over the SOCKS proxy. | Mar 20 13:17 |
| Techrights-sec | if done in the new profile this will leave your normal profile unaffected | Mar 20 13:17 |
| Techrights-sec | then go to beta.techrights.org | Mar 20 13:17 |
| Techrights-sec | inside the new FF profile | Mar 20 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | at the moment I am in the new profile, with the settings done right afaik, I tried reaching the address over localhost, domain name, plus some port numbers | Mar 20 13:18 |
| schestowitz__ | I am not sure if port forwarding works yet, just by virtue of ssh beta | Mar 20 13:18 |
| Techrights-sec | There are a lot of hardcoded navigation links, I am trying to track down | Mar 20 13:19 |
| Techrights-sec | the source if it is ccentralized. | Mar 20 13:19 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, the portforwarding should be in place with the above shortcut | Mar 20 13:20 |
| Techrights-sec | to 'ssh beta' | Mar 20 13:20 |
| schestowitz__ | I think I need to enter more proxy settings, assuming port forwarding is in place | Mar 20 13:23 |
| Techrights-sec | in the new FF profile: Edit->Preferences->General->Network Settings | Mar 20 13:25 |
| Techrights-sec | Then manual proxy: SOCKS Host 127.0.0.1 port 3050 | Mar 20 13:25 |
| Techrights-sec | Then set "Proxy DNS when using SOCKS v5" | Mar 20 13:25 |
| schestowitz__ | now it works! | Mar 20 13:25 |
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| Techrights-sec | Excellent | Mar 20 13:26 |
| Techrights-sec | Many of the navigation links are hard-coded however. | Mar 20 13:26 |
| Techrights-sec | The material is current as of 18 Mar | Mar 20 13:26 |
| Techrights-sec | So a few days are missing but it has enough to play with | Mar 20 13:26 |
| schestowitz__ | OK, what is the plan? You go first, I will follow up... | Mar 20 13:26 |
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| Techrights-sec | The good new is that the database can be restored from backup. | Mar 20 13:27 |
| Techrights-sec | THere are some other files not yet restored though. | Mar 20 13:27 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm not sure, I was thinking to use it like this to work out a | Mar 20 13:28 |
| Techrights-sec | methodology for exporting to either Jekyll or Hugo. | Mar 20 13:28 |
| schestowitz__ | is Ghost any good? | Mar 20 13:28 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm not sure. I'd have to read up on Ghost | Mar 20 13:28 |
| schestowitz__ | OK, here is my take: | Mar 20 13:28 |
| schestowitz__ | 1. Given the tough circumstances, external entirely to me, I think I did good diplomacy work. In fact, we're not currently at risk. In fact, with the IRC under new mod we've silenced some forms of nuisance and are managing to keep more on topic. I can elaborate on ths | Mar 20 13:31 |
| schestowitz__ | (but generally, we're OK now... though it never hurts to have fallback)... still typing... let me finish please to ensure I don't lose train of thought | Mar 20 13:32 |
| Techrights-sec | Ghost is javascript | Mar 20 13:32 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Mar 20 13:32 |
| schestowitz__ | 2. Static is great for archiving, e.g. sites or site components that never change anymore, e.g. Groklaw | Mar 20 13:33 |
| schestowitz__ | 3. in Techrights things change further down at the bottom, still, but there's value in the form of archival etc. because files are better than opaque DBs | Mar 20 13:33 |
| schestowitz__ | (sometimes I even correct some old posts, e.g. broken links or images) | Mar 20 13:34 |
| schestowitz__ | 4. serving the site from multiple http/s source is a good thing, assuming all are trusted and more or less in sync | Mar 20 13:34 |
| schestowitz__ | Barring HA, it's possible to use subdomains | Mar 20 13:35 |
| schestowitz__ | 5. rather then beta we can have "static" | Mar 20 13:35 |
| schestowitz__ | 6. when there is expectation of high load or ddos we can link to static | Mar 20 13:35 |
| schestowitz__ | 7. if static host is down, we can change dns to just link to main (dynamic) IP | Mar 20 13:36 |
| schestowitz__ | 8. gemini is fine in one place, lupa/boris is having a knock on it today (my program keeps sending me alerts from the CLI), mostly because it's not heavily used | Mar 20 13:37 |
| schestowitz__ | owing to tc, I can now run ipfs 24/7 and rianne is rather astounded that it's still running as she never 'feels' it and the LEDs tell us what's going on (it's alerting us if ipfs daemon goes down) | Mar 20 13:37 |
| schestowitz__ | so http/s is what we have left to deal with, at the very least to have fallbacks in place and redundancy in case it becomes needed for whatever reason | Mar 20 13:38 |
| schestowitz__ | we have multiple options at hand | Mar 20 13:39 |
| schestowitz__ | considerations | Mar 20 13:39 |
| schestowitz__ | 1) if static goes 'down', will links be broken? | Mar 20 13:39 |
| schestowitz__ | answer: we can keep URL structure consistent and then redirect one domain/subdomain to another | Mar 20 13:40 |
| schestowitz__ | 2) will we be able to offer something like 'secure.techrights.org' over https with minimalist layout, maybe deuan/opebsd, and more hacker-friendly as "option"? | Mar 20 13:41 |
| schestowitz__ | answer: it's doable, but then we have more things to maintain. In theory a VM is the latter can be added later to the main server | Mar 20 13:41 |
| schestowitz__ | 3. wordpress, for many reasons, would still need to be used. Changing CMS 'midway' would remove the integrity among hosts, cause issues like RSS feeds becoming deprecated. Shelving and starting afresh with a new CMS is how many sites commit suicide | Mar 20 13:43 |
| schestowitz__ | What are your thoughts? | Mar 20 13:43 |
| Techrights-sec | static is easier to mirror across multiple low-resource servers | Mar 20 13:47 |
| Techrights-sec | that helps with loadbalancing as well as availability | Mar 20 13:47 |
| Techrights-sec | The site is a few years overdue for an OS upgrade. | Mar 20 13:47 |
| Techrights-sec | That is the barrier to adding TLS | Mar 20 13:47 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm not sure how much would be lost moving to Hugo | Mar 20 13:47 |
| Techrights-sec | it would have RSS as far as I can tell and the old pages would be imported | Mar 20 13:47 |
| Techrights-sec | to it | Mar 20 13:47 |
| Techrights-sec | Again, it could be mirrored across low-powered machines around the net | Mar 20 13:47 |
| Techrights-sec | what that would look like is not quite known thus this test machine , | Mar 20 13:47 |
| Techrights-sec | which is available through April | Mar 20 13:47 |
| schestowitz__ | Has any work been done yet with the static site generator. I spent 20 mins looking through the FS and could not quite decipher or see major changes. I did not look deep though | Mar 20 13:48 |
| Techrights-sec | whatever the layout, whether through wordpress or hugo, the os needs updating | Mar 20 13:49 |
| Techrights-sec | properly and that would be a good time to tidy apache2 and stop using a | Mar 20 13:49 |
| Techrights-sec | catchall-user account | Mar 20 13:49 |
| Techrights-sec | I've only put wordpress in place, and that only partially, | Mar 20 13:49 |
| schestowitz__ | OK "let's go crazy"(R) and think very laterally: | Mar 20 13:49 |
| schestowitz__ | starting with the basics: | Mar 20 13:50 |
| schestowitz__ | "What do we do? what do we want? HOW do we do it? Where do we go?.... etc etc" | Mar 20 13:50 |
| schestowitz__ | thinking aloud, nowadays we leverage cheaper storage and high bw to do more videos, which seem to be well received by people stuck at home with fast connections, not in transit on a 'phone' | Mar 20 13:51 |
| schestowitz__ | (still typing) | Mar 20 13:51 |
| schestowitz__ | we soon have 30,000 blog posts, the Drupal site never changes anymore (it's stale,~/index is just a front end for the RSS feed), wiki is mostly lists of links | Mar 20 13:52 |
| schestowitz__ | wordpress is LTS and secure for now, but any upgrades of wordpress itself would give that awful (I hear) Gutenberg with JavaScrpt shitshow | Mar 20 13:53 |
| Techrights-sec | (the wiki is a separate matter / technology) | Mar 20 13:54 |
| schestowitz__ | the wiki sw is rather outdated, but very few people have account there and can do anything TO it | Mar 20 13:54 |
| schestowitz__ | redoing the site, as "beta" tends to suggest, is risky | Mar 20 13:54 |
| schestowitz__ | because you fundamentally change a lot of things and may be making wrong assumption about editing, reading, syndication etc. | Mar 20 13:55 |
| schestowitz__ | this is also an issue with TM; it's well designed and optimised for what it does not. Any upgrades would mean starting over and throwing tons of stuff away. | Mar 20 13:56 |
| schestowitz__ | *what it does NOW | Mar 20 13:56 |
| Techrights-sec | 'beta' was just an arbitrary name 'scratchpaper' would be more descriptive | Mar 20 13:57 |
| schestowitz__ | with multiple http/s (Sub)domains there's lots that can be achieved | Mar 20 13:58 |
| schestowitz__ | OK, here is a thought | Mar 20 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | what about a 'hacker-friendly' version of the site, akin to gemini but https? | Mar 20 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | not sure what it would entail maintenance-wise | Mar 20 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | [I missed whatever was typed a minute or two before that disconnection, not sure whose side was at fault] | Mar 20 14:08 |
| Techrights-sec | not sure but you disappeard fro mthe system completely############################# | Mar 20 14:11 |
| Techrights-sec | as far as site go, mirroring is good but mulitple editions are not | Mar 20 14:11 |
| Techrights-sec | doing the gemini mirror is work but for now worth the tradeoff | Mar 20 14:11 |
| schestowitz__ | I think it's important to keep a maste^H^H^HMAIN copy of the site for layout reasons and backward compat (15 years) | Mar 20 14:12 |
| schestowitz__ | to do (for me): | Mar 20 14:27 |
| schestowitz__ | or rather, me giving myself a TODO list | Mar 20 14:27 |
| schestowitz__ | not suggesting anyone else should do it :-) | Mar 20 14:27 |
| schestowitz__ | 1) find out how well static site generators are at making pages that work with old browsers | Mar 20 14:27 |
| schestowitz__ | 2) how vibrant their development is (don't want to work hard moving to abandonware | Mar 20 14:28 |
| schestowitz__ | 3) how they've coped with very large sites (the only examples I saw are some dev blogs with about 100 pages/nodes) | Mar 20 14:29 |
| schestowitz__ | gemini space mailing list lost some momentum lately, not sure why... https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/ | Mar 20 14:29 |
| Techrights-sec | I'd look at Hugo first among the sattic site gnerators | Mar 20 14:32 |
| Techrights-sec | (the gemini list is now moderated, I don't know how detailed, | Mar 20 14:32 |
| Techrights-sec | but the bs was getting thick before and driving people away) | Mar 20 14:32 |
| schestowitz__ | The BS means people wasting time on demoralising BS instead of doing real work like projects; it harms in two ways, at least... time drain and morale. In IRC things were distressing for some people, kaniini is happy with how things are now | Mar 20 14:33 |
| Techrights-sec | (that is the goal of the griefers) | Mar 20 14:34 |
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| Techrights-sec | jumping from PHP5.4.x to PHP 7.3.x will entail a lot of small tidying | Mar 20 16:37 |
| schestowitz__ | are you trying it now? | Mar 20 16:37 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, I am experimenting a bit. There are a lot of loose ends. | Mar 20 16:52 |
| schestowitz__ | I've long wondered about LAMP compatibility with whatever programs we use, as any version change can introduce some issues that aren't immediately visible. Software moves too fast and "breaks stuff" | Mar 20 16:53 |
| Techrights-sec | PHP 5.4 is not available in the newer distros | Mar 20 16:54 |
| Techrights-sec | Only PHP 7.3 is | Mar 20 16:54 |
| Techrights-sec | WordPress is now at 5.7 and has some backend database changes | Mar 20 16:55 |
| Techrights-sec | if it is as it looks | Mar 20 16:55 |
| schestowitz__ | I stayed with pre-Gutenberg LTS | Mar 20 16:56 |
| Techrights-sec | WHich # is that? | Mar 20 16:56 |
| schestowitz__ | 3.9.* https://wordpress.org/download/releases/ | Mar 20 16:58 |
| schestowitz__ | I see that even 3.7.* is still being maintained, we'll see when they abandon those and why | Mar 20 16:59 |
| Techrights-sec | a lot of the pluins have become terrible along the way | Mar 20 17:03 |
| schestowitz__ | Some of the plugins we've long relied on, e.g. for referencing, might not be compatible anymore. Techrights is so insistent on keeping backward compat but Tech in general moved fast with little or no regard to what it breaks. Sometimes it's a business mode.. | Mar 20 17:04 |
| Techrights-sec | well the difficult sticking point will be to keep PHP 5.4 around | Mar 20 17:05 |
| schestowitz__ | when we cannot work around such limitations, such as patching along the way and using workarounds (like with Drupal 6, still supported with some patches) we can go static, then start alongside the "old" stuff archived. Groklaw must be getting long in the toooth. | Mar 20 17:06 |
| Techrights-sec | unfortunatley groklaw did not archivce the comments. my guess is that they | Mar 20 17:08 |
| Techrights-sec | ran a spider and forgot to expand the nested comments in the process | Mar 20 17:08 |
| Techrights-sec | some of the sites for the plugins are so javascriptified that they | Mar 20 17:11 |
| Techrights-sec | themselves don't work and the plugin source is unavailable | Mar 20 17:11 |
| Techrights-sec | wordpress claims to be able to fetch the source but it wants to be able to | Mar 20 17:11 |
| Techrights-sec | login using FTP to the server. That's infeasible with any firewall and | Mar 20 17:11 |
| Techrights-sec | 100% bullshit from an all around quality, performance, and security perspectivce. | Mar 20 17:11 |
| schestowitz__ | I never let autoupdates on TR. I assess the risk if there is a security patch and manually apply. | Mar 20 17:18 |
| Techrights-sec | That's one risk. The other is that the remote system is logging in with | Mar 20 17:20 |
| Techrights-sec | the credentials and data epxosed in cleartext, unencrypted. It would be | Mar 20 17:20 |
| Techrights-sec | childs play to intercept and re-use. Or with a little bit of effort and skill | Mar 20 17:20 |
| Techrights-sec | it would be quite feasible to inject data, if the will is there to do so. | Mar 20 17:20 |
| Techrights-sec | Maybe the when the old PHP 5.4 and WorPress 3.9 die, that part of TR | Mar 20 17:21 |
| Techrights-sec | can be scraped and saved like Groklaw. Then the new articles can be in | Mar 20 17:21 |
| Techrights-sec | something else. | Mar 20 17:21 |
| Techrights-sec | . | Mar 20 17:21 |
| Techrights-sec | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2013/10/31/wordpress-automatic-update/ | Mar 20 17:21 |
| schestowitz__ | I think what we discuss here is worth exploring in broader contexts too, given microsoft.pgp on pi devices and other such nonsense MSM never talks about (or mentions properly) | Mar 20 17:24 |
| Techrights-sec | rats, I had a very important thought today about RPi but can't remmber. | Mar 20 17:26 |
| Techrights-sec | It was on par with their key scam. | Mar 20 17:26 |
| schestowitz__ | I told rianne when companies do something in response to critics they NEVER admit this. As it shows weakness. | Mar 20 17:27 |
| schestowitz__ | It looks like Serge Schnieder and co. are doing some face-saving damage-limiting moves (8 days ago)? | Mar 20 17:27 |
| Techrights-sec | Yeah but RPF has not fired the microsofters that caused the damage to | Mar 20 17:28 |
| Techrights-sec | their reputation and their market. | Mar 20 17:28 |
| schestowitz__ | should we do article/video about that? I have time... | Mar 20 17:28 |
| Techrights-sec | Perhaps, but what has been missed about RPF which is hiding in plain sight? | Mar 20 17:29 |
| schestowitz__ | dunno, you tell me... | Mar 20 17:29 |
| Techrights-sec | I am trying to remember.... | Mar 20 17:30 |
| schestowitz__ | no rush, I've not even finished posting the links yet :p-) | Mar 20 17:30 |
| Techrights-sec | and it is almost beer o'clock | Mar 20 17:33 |
| schestowitz__ | earlier on I was thinking super-laterally: | Mar 20 17:33 |
| schestowitz__ | like, what if the delivery was the site was 're-invented' somewhat? | Mar 20 17:34 |
| schestowitz__ | beating in mind idiots like SPAMnil and Lunduke that do everything as "just video" but lack the capacity to self-host | Mar 20 17:34 |
| schestowitz__ | *bearing in mind | Mar 20 17:35 |
| Techrights-sec | how so? what kind of delivery? | Mar 20 17:35 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't know what kind of delivery, that's the hard part | Mar 20 17:35 |
| Techrights-sec | video is hard for many to keep up with | Mar 20 17:37 |
| Techrights-sec | it reaches many too, but different groups with some overlap | Mar 20 17:37 |
| Techrights-sec | putting the videos /also/ in odysee or lbry might be an idea, with | Mar 20 17:37 |
| Techrights-sec | pointers back to TR on WWW or Gemini | Mar 20 17:37 |
| schestowitz__ | outsourcing to clown isn't needed when we have the capacity (for now) to self-hosting even hundreds of long videos. The problem is that your subscribers are then controlled by a third party | Mar 20 17:38 |
| Techrights-sec | spamnil has been bullshit for many years and even before that | Mar 20 17:40 |
| Techrights-sec | there were red flags | Mar 20 17:40 |
| Techrights-sec | lunduke has a couple of good posts every year or so but filler in between | Mar 20 17:40 |
| Techrights-sec | I wasn't thinking of soley publishing via "clown" but using it as a mirror | Mar 20 17:40 |
| Techrights-sec | site. Just a though, maybe not a useful thought though. | Mar 20 17:40 |
| schestowitz__ | 1. takes time 2. takes effort (not ssh workflow) 3. puts comments outside our site/turf 4. censorship a risk 5. limits/upselling/ToS changes 6. contrary to what we preach about self-reliance | Mar 20 17:40 |
| Techrights-sec | #6 is very important, enough to veto the idea on its own | Mar 20 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | I used social control media myself, after tmanco urged me to | Mar 20 17:42 |
| schestowitz__ | very, very time-consuming and now a propaganda (non-linear) workflow/timeline/BS screen time clutter-fuck [sic] | Mar 20 17:42 |
| schestowitz__ | social control media= instant gratification, albeit very short term | Mar 20 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | 15 seconds of fame, years later site shuts down with tags, comments, etc. | Mar 20 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | digg's lesson (killed off everything), then statusnet/identica | Mar 20 17:44 |
| Techrights-sec | social control media interaction is about "engagement" which is a euphemism | Mar 20 17:44 |
| Techrights-sec | for killing time unproductively | Mar 20 17:44 |
| Techrights-sec | Correct. | Mar 20 17:44 |
| Techrights-sec | On the topic of WordPress, I'm not really finding any plugins available for | Mar 20 17:46 |
| Techrights-sec | direct (or indirect) download. | Mar 20 17:46 |
| Techrights-sec | Digg sucked. They banned all coverage of ODF early on yet gave all kinds of | Mar 20 17:46 |
| Techrights-sec | boosts to MOOX | Mar 20 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | Digg predated Twitter and Reddit, maybe came after myspace (have not checked) | Mar 20 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | I was ranked 17 there, but cliques dominated what trended | Mar 20 17:47 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway, this chat is quite productive, I think | Mar 20 17:47 |
| schestowitz__ | but to move on to what we have at hand, which is inherently strategic and more worthy than just typing away: | Mar 20 17:48 |
| schestowitz__ | it looks like we won't be renewing gym membership, at least not soon, so I have the capacity to record things more and spend time on long form pieces, not memes and Twitter no longer wastes my time | Mar 20 17:49 |
| Techrights-sec | Some of the plugins in use have not been tested for the new version of WordPress | Mar 20 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | Again, the question now becomes how to get the old version of PHP for the | Mar 20 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | newer versions of the distros. | Mar 20 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | Be sure to increase general movement then. Just getting up every 15 minutes is | Mar 20 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | important for sustained online work. | Mar 20 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | Twitter (like other social control media) wastes a lot of time. It's not | Mar 20 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | available now but many younger people get their exposure to the web via it | Mar 20 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | and the model their later design work based on misplaced priorities about | Mar 20 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | engagement instead of usability or efficiency | Mar 20 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | Then there is the bandwidth question when each "tweet" takes a few MB for | Mar 20 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | only a few characters of data and a few more of metadata. | Mar 20 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | It's like anti-usenet | Mar 20 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | The plugin "Google (XML) Sitemaps Generator for WordPress" has no working | Mar 20 17:54 |
| Techrights-sec | download links anywhere I can find. | Mar 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz__ | 1. those are built to addict. 2. engagement is improperly measured (not time, so long means same unit) 3. re plugins and php, I've long imagined it would require us making archival of some kind (when all options have run out), maybe same for TM, then start afresh and combined the new and old | Mar 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz__ | few of the wordpress plugins are enabled and in active use anymore | Mar 20 17:55 |
| schestowitz__ | muktware (now aka TFIR) is now a joke with barely 50 views on blog posts and all the "videos" (spam/PR) outsourced to Goooge (let me get to the point:) | Mar 20 17:56 |
| schestowitz__ | it's an example of sites trying to 'reinvent themselves' (LinuxVeda, The Mukt) only to dig themselves deeper down the ground... | Mar 20 17:56 |
| schestowitz__ | so if TM and TR become "modern" like "Smart"/"App"/"mobile-friendly" that risks alienating people and breaking things, needs careful consideration. Some sites 'relaunch' only to die, faster. | Mar 20 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | sometimes high-level decisions from people who fail to understand the sites and the community that makes them worth a F | Mar 20 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | Few sites benefit from the addiction (engagement) model, even | Mar 20 18:05 |
| Techrights-sec | if their own developer are not aware of that. | Mar 20 18:05 |
| Techrights-sec | back in a while | Mar 20 18:05 |
| schestowitz__ | Any word if Putin is shutting down child trafficking twitter in Russia? Or is All of Russia now the Hells Angels territory? #truth #meme #maga #freedom #politics https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=883kU6MFG1A | Mar 20 21:57 |
| schestowitz__ | 'Any word if Putin is shutting down child trafficking twitter in Russia? Or is All of Russia now the Hells Angels territory? #truth #meme #maga #freedom #politics https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=883kU6MFG1A" | Mar 20 21:57 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1220111954702139392?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1220111954702139392:0:0:0:1220119261594943488 | Mar 20 21:57 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1218216195183112192?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1218216195183112192:0:0:0:1218223246633811968 | Mar 20 21:58 |
| schestowitz__ | "Gates somewhat systematically debunked - a healthy, critical approach avoiding unnecessary conspiratorial clap-trap." | Mar 20 21:58 |
| schestowitz__ | Nice! Totally doable. | Mar 20 21:59 |
| schestowitz__ | The PDP7 only had 16 instructions. So those could be build out in 7400 series TTL. : ] | Mar 20 21:59 |
| schestowitz__ | My favorite is the Linc/PDP8. It had 8 instructions total... Very small and compact CISC instruction set. | Mar 20 21:59 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1216092393339027456?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1216092393339027456:0:0:0:1217554184671457280 | Mar 20 21:59 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1217475793474654208?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1217475793474654208:0:0:0:1217513800395866112 | Mar 20 21:59 |
| schestowitz__ | "Not surprising that Bloomberg is connected to this study. Surprisingly unbiased results I am sure. I am not a partisan believer, or worshipper at the alter of government, but come on, Johns Hopkins gets their medical school funding from Michael Bloomberg. | Mar 20 21:59 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1217164970628386816?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1217164970628386816:0:0:0:1217166306166091776 | Mar 20 21:59 |
| schestowitz__ | "Lol 360hz - I can tell the difference between 30 and 60 - but after that it doesn't seem to matter. I think I've read that some people can percieve 120hz - but 360 is a new one lol | Mar 20 21:59 |
| schestowitz__ | "t also could be a chicken / egg scenario - for years we only had movies at 24-30 fps - and it was generally true that human vision had a norm along those lines - but since refresh rates are getting faster people might be getting better at perception of these high framerates as well." | Mar 20 22:00 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1217095007139880960?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1217095007139880960:0:0:0:1217108249393541120 | Mar 20 22:00 |
| schestowitz__ | "my question is why they shot weaponless people" | Mar 20 22:00 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1216088393407295488?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1216088393407295488:0:0:0:1216089531344429056 | Mar 20 22:01 |
| schestowitz__ | "I'm a woman and I disagree that the world needs feminist or rather femiNAZI leaders. Many of the problems we face today in the world can be laid at the feet of the femiNAZIS and the evidence in on the streets, in the single parent families, in the foster homes and orphanages. I have had 60 years to observe the progression to this breakdown in families, society and culture, breakdown that women demanded. Don't even think you | Mar 20 22:01 |
| schestowitz__ | can tell me I'm wrong. | Mar 20 22:01 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1216135068335407104?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1216135068335407104:0:0:0:1216135773390839808 | Mar 20 22:01 |
| schestowitz__ | "Talk to me about Libre Office. I've heard of it as an alternative open-source to Word and maybe even Google docs. How do you feel about it? What do you like about it?" | Mar 20 22:01 |
| schestowitz__ | It never forces you to pay again and again or give up on your workflows (just to sell you more) | Mar 20 22:02 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1216740119421374464?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1216740119421374464:0:0:0:1216750244249350144 | Mar 20 22:02 |
| schestowitz__ | "This is the problem, seen too many turned off, and edited. There is no point in wearing a camera if it is to be turned off and can be tampered with, even deleted (lost) to avoid incriminating themselves through their regular unlawful, behaviours not limited to malicious deceitful coercion, entrapment, making up laws, assault and battery and unfortunately even murder. I have utmost respect for Police Constables operating under | Mar 20 22:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Oath, but not revenue-generating, for-profit, thug mob mentality Police 'Officer' brutes." | Mar 20 22:02 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1216739888631296000?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1216739888631296000:0:0:0:1216751469940400128 | Mar 20 22:02 |
| schestowitz__ | "This one pulled from the archives Roy, 8.5 now :)" | Mar 20 22:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Yes, I knew | Mar 20 22:02 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1213211834093002752?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1213211834093002752:0:0:0:1217077769761099776 | Mar 20 22:03 |
| schestowitz__ | "You could share this here https://www.minds.com/groups/profile/821309203013300224" | Mar 20 22:03 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1214904882345000960?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1214904882345000960:0:0:0:1215069593360121856 | Mar 20 22:03 |
| schestowitz__ | "Like the dementia fool had a choice 😂" | Mar 20 22:03 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1215305712081289216?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1215305712081289216:0:0:0:1215305975470211072 | Mar 20 22:03 |
| schestowitz__ | "It's almost like they should just cut all taxes below 100k..." | Mar 20 22:03 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1215473426847911936?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1215473426847911936:0:0:0:1215511604570865664 | Mar 20 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | "Sounds like I have a good LAN to look forward to tomorrow." | Mar 20 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1216033360023015424?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1216033360023015424:0:0:0:1216033708990324736 | Mar 20 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | "They can start by getting rid of the masks" | Mar 20 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1215920188149018624?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1215920188149018624:0:0:0:1216042357154471936] | Mar 20 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | "YouTube blows" | Mar 20 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1214780222801272832?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1214780222801272832:0:0:0:1214886300908003328 | Mar 20 22:05 |
| schestowitz__ | "This is so criminal, wars only make the elites richer." | Mar 20 22:05 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1214774564780933120?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1214774564780933120:0:0:0:1214889076152320000 | Mar 20 22:05 |
| schestowitz__ | "I'd love one of these!" | Mar 20 22:05 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1214906183289556992?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1214906183289556992:0:0:0:1214906830791258112 | Mar 20 22:05 |
| schestowitz__ | "General Atomics holds way too much power, will not happen, Biden wouldn’t dare stop it. | Mar 20 22:05 |
| schestowitz__ | "Do not hold your breathe on that one" | Mar 20 22:05 |
| schestowitz__ | "He won’t end it, as he’s too weak for a strong opinion | Mar 20 22:05 |
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| TechrightsBN | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.75 | Mar 20 22:07 |
| schestowitz__ | [Old, problem resolved, safer to publish not to preserve full transparency] [NO, WE have it sorted now... thankfully] | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> I think it is probably for the best that we find new infrastructure arrangements for techrights. I really do not think it is good for anyone to feel like they are walking on eggshells over various things that have happened | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:06] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> i mean, there's no requirement to move in any timeframe, i just think it would be best for our working relationship if your sites were not my responsibility anymore | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:40] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> for example, your decision to reproduce articles from daniel pocock is a valid editorial decision, but not one i find personally compatible given that pocock is defending someone i know to be a rapist and also harassing friends of mine in debian through e-mail header spoofing and other behavior | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:40] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> the lack of moderation and general troll cesspool that the IRC channel has become is also a problem | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:41] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> but this has been somewhat stressful as i feel like i am pulled in multiple directions, do i support my friends who have been raped by applebaum, or do i support the people who attack them | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:42] <schestowitz__> how can we correct the relationship? what do you suggest we do? | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:42] <schestowitz__> (just woke up) | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:42] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> do i support the (until yesterday, lack of) moderation stance of the IRC channel, or do i stand by while white supremacist trolls run wild in IRC | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:43] <schestowitz__> I do my best to keep things on topic | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:43] <schestowitz__> we will do a better job at it | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:43] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> i think i should take a break for a while. i'll just leave things be | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:44] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> but i question what value any of this has for software freedom | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:44] <schestowitz__> OK, I suggest letting the mind refresh for a bit | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:44] <schestowitz__> I do my best to report things | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:45] <schestowitz__> it can never be 100% perfect and make everyone happy | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:45] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> i don't want to feel like i impose any censorship on techrights | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:45] <schestowitz__> I write for many sources who for many years took great risk | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:45] <schestowitz__> I am attentive to your feedback | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:45] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yes, and thats what i want to support | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:45] <schestowitz__> :-) | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:45] <schestowitz__> we need to communicate better | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:46] <schestowitz__> I humbly do my best | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:46] <schestowitz__> with a small salary to cover basic expenses and all | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:46] <schestowitz__> I also try to 'police' nonsense in IRC | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:46] <schestowitz__> like people who came to IRC and spewed out nonsense, they're talked down | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:47] <schestowitz__> my co-admin wanted to send you money earlier this year | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:47] <schestowitz__> to contribute to the running costs | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:47] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> the costs are minimal | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:47] <schestowitz__> but still | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:47] <schestowitz__> you get lots of pressure and put time into it | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:47] <schestowitz__> I want to report things that many sites do not as they perished | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:47] <schestowitz__> not sure if you noticed | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:48] <schestowitz__> almost nobody covered freesw anymore | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:48] <schestowitz__> your generous hosting helped a lot | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:49] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> what i would like to see is daniel pocock find a different soapbox, and some actual rules on the IRC. | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:49] <schestowitz__> OK, I will no longer repost him and in IRC we have rules but I will brush them up after a decade | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:49] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> but i am not "demanding" anything | Mar 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:49] <schestowitz__> currently they ban just for threats to people | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:49] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> you should do what you feel is right | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:50] <schestowitz__> the qanon overtones bothered me too | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:50] <schestowitz__> I just saw that late | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:50] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> you mentioned that rianne is getting tired too | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:50] <schestowitz__> we've long discussed internally this whole qanon nonsense | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:50] <schestowitz__> I wrote 6+ articles to distance myself from that | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:51] <schestowitz__> no, rianne is upset by false accusations at me | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> anyway, i have the utmost respect for techrights and what it has historically stood for | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> well, that is part of it | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> i am tired of that too | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:51] <schestowitz__> we can cruise past this | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a lot of people accuse techrights/you of things that aren't true | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> because the ship isn't being run as tight as it needs to be | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:51] <schestowitz__> so be kind as always to us... and please support us | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:52] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> so they are able to quote things | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:52] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> out of context | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:52] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> and smear techrights | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:52] <schestowitz__> we can improve, we always can | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:52] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> if that makes sense? | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:52] <schestowitz__> we are a "target" because of things we cover that piss off big companies | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:52] <schestowitz__> like IBM, which sends PR agents to me | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:52] <schestowitz__> when we change moderation it won't be because of you | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:52] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> for example, yyyyyyyyyyyy said i said you were qanon-affiliated, when that is not what i said | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:52] <schestowitz__> but because we face a new kind of "attack" | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:53] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> i said that the irc channel had qanon content in it (from that Old_Man troll) | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:53] <schestowitz__> that is true | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:53] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yyyyyyyyyyyy also said i was anti-RMS, when the reality is my opinion is far more nuanced | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:53] <schestowitz__> that's his misunderstanding | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:54] <schestowitz__> he too is quite new | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:54] <schestowitz__> mincer is more veteran so to speak | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:54] <schestowitz__> been here to help us for over 10 years | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:54] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yeah mincer and i go back almost 15 years, he knows where i am coming from ;) | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:54] <schestowitz__> you too know who core people are | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:55] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> my concern is that these trolls are able to influence techrights as a project though | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:55] <schestowitz__> he used to send me missing IRC bits when I was on holiday and lost connection | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:55] <schestowitz__> the influence usually comes encrypted in email | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:55] <schestowitz__> sources and leakers | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:55] <schestowitz__> not IRC | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:55] <schestowitz__> I wish IRC was always on-topic | Mar 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:55] <schestowitz__> hence we talked about the social aspects in the social channel | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:56] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> i also think mjg59 is not really there to troll you incessantly | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:56] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> i can explain that if it would help | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:56] <schestowitz__> he rarely said anything positive, for years | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:56] <schestowitz__> I later understood why he was so angered by it | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:56] <schestowitz__> because he brought up his partner | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:56] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> he sees you as somewhat reactionary | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:57] <schestowitz__> remember I rarely covered all those "social" aspects until it was forced upon me | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:57] <schestowitz__> I was always Linux advocacy | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:57] <schestowitz__> until they try to shut me up | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:57] <schestowitz__> imposters using my name | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:57] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> so, something i think that is important to mention | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:57] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> is daniel pocock is doing that to people | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:58] <schestowitz__> I won't run his posts anymore | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:58] <schestowitz__> he has his own blof | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:58] <schestowitz__> *blog | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:58] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> and so by publishing his content on techrights, in some cases you may help to expose some fraud at FSFE | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:58] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> but he doesn't see it that way, he sees that as a soapbox | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:59] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> in that way, he acquires legitimacy from techrights for his activities | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:59] <schestowitz__> I will focus on patents and free software, I see anything else brings trouble upon us | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:59] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> in the same way Oracle acquires goodwill from xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx by promising to release "official" JDK for xxxxxxxxxxx systems and then renegging at release time | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:59] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> its a bait and switch basically | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> but, it is a problem too, that these alt-right qanon folks have concluded they are welcome in techrights | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:00] <schestowitz__> I only see less than a handful of them | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:00] <schestowitz__> we drove away others who tried | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:00] <schestowitz__> mostly last year | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:01] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yes, i think its important to keep driving away those people | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:01] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> but i don't have the patience personally | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:01] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> so i am going to just not (: | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:01] <schestowitz__> leave that to me | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:02] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> alright, sounds good. | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:02] <schestowitz__> thanks! | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:02] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> but don't just say you agree to shut me up | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:02] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> if you want to find a different arrangement, i won't be offended | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:02] <schestowitz__> I always agreed on driving them away | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:02] <schestowitz__> how far to go was a variable | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:03] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> we live in a very fucked up time. we have to go as far as is necessary to protect free software from those who would corrupt the movement | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:03] <schestowitz__> I never said different management, someone I barely know said something like that and I was about to interject and refute that | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:03] <schestowitz__> also the "anti-RMS" remark | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:03] <schestowitz__> which was false | Mar 20 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:03] <schestowitz__> at techrights since 2006 was always focused on corporate power and patent monopoly | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:04] <schestowitz__> the other "aspects" were sort of thrown at us | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:04] <schestowitz__> hence I barely talk about my personal life | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:04] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> the other thing is, i think you fundamentally understand software freedom and are good at pushing the message | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:05] <schestowitz__> thanks :-) | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:05] <schestowitz__> was rianne is upset about isn't what you though | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:05] <schestowitz__> rather, seeing how walls close down on me while I just try to do justice for whistleblowers | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:05] <schestowitz__> and they don't trust anyone else in that domain (patents) | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:06] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> well, i agree with your goals to speak truth to power on behalf of whistleblowers | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:06] <schestowitz__> in this area nobody else does it for them | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:07] <schestowitz__> I stay away from 'pure' politics | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:07] <schestowitz__> it divides people and leads to abuse | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:07] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> i also think that people look to techrights as a voice for how to fight for software freedom | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:07] <schestowitz__> we're supported by oliva, RMS and more | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:07] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> which is why the alt-right trolls are interested in infiltrating techrights | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:07] <schestowitz__> they tried a lot least year | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:07] <schestowitz__> *last | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:08] <schestowitz__> and we drove them out | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:08] <schestowitz__> many people never noticed | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:09] <schestowitz__> I saw the same used against Wikileaks as an org | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:09] <schestowitz__> when they published stuff the comments would be stuffed with total nuts | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:10] <schestowitz__> I don't want that to happen to us | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:10] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> i don't either | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:10] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> that's why i speak up | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:10] <schestowitz__> imagine what our articles would look like if any random troll could easily leave comments... | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:10] <schestowitz__> many news sites have given up | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:10] <schestowitz__> and closed them completely | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:10] <schestowitz__> anon lawyers saying things like "poo" didn't add value to our posts | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:18] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> well sounds like everything is ok then | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:19] <schestowitz__> yes, thanks for sharing your concerns with me | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:20] <schestowitz__> rianne myself and the other server tenant are all very grateful | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:20] <schestowitz__> we need to stick closer, we have more in common than not in common and I don't do this for money | Mar 20 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [redacted above, should be safer this way] | Mar 20 22:50 |
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