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schestowitz-TRdon't make fun of "tweets"Oct 22 07:28
schestowitz-TRSaudis co-own the platform nowOct 22 07:28
schestowitz-TRhatin' on tweets is IslamophobicOct 22 07:28
schestowitz-TRsoon, all m tweets must be oligarchs-compliant and halalOct 22 07:28
schestowitz[TR]<techrights_guest|1> Just wanted to rn in here and say the site over on gemini is magnificent!Oct 22 07:33
schestowitz-TRyle: this time 5 short paragraph about a tweetOct 22 07:50
schestowitz-TRbetter than just 4 paragraphsOct 22 07:50
schestowitz-TR30-50 words totalOct 22 07:50
schestowitz-TRfits in two "tweets", "just add water... or headline"Oct 22 07:50
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schestowitz-TR[08:19] <techrights-news> Elon Musk Plans To Make Twitter Profitable By Firing 75% Of The Staf ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/21/report-elon-musk-plans-to-make-twitter-profitable-by-firing-75-of-the-staff/ | Source: TechdirtOct 22 08:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Report: Elon Musk Plans To Make Twitter Profitable By Firing 75% Of The Staff | TechdirtOct 22 08:20
schestowitz-TR'skeleton crew'Oct 22 08:20
schestowitz-TRa crew that tortures you cna puts your skeleton in a tandoori ovenOct 22 08:22
techrights-secThunderbird seems to consistently screw up threading in the inbox.  Oct 22 08:22
techrights-secIt keeps putting unrelated messages together.  Oct 22 08:22
techrights-secIt keeps putting unrelated messages together, even though the messages containOct 22 08:26
techrights-secproper Message-ID and References fields in their headers.  WTF is Baker doing with all that Google money?  ThereOct 22 08:26
techrights-secis less and less to show for it each release, like they are going backwards.Oct 22 08:26
schestowitz-TRmusk will do to twitter what baker does to firefox and mozilla/emailOct 22 08:27
schestowitz-TRcui bono?Oct 22 08:27
schestowitz-TRthe capital the musk comes partly from saudisOct 22 08:27
schestowitz-TRno twitter, no saudi dissidents in twitterOct 22 08:27
techrights-secGood riddance to twitter, but thunderbird and firefox had been quite useful.  Oct 22 08:29
techrights-secYes even Firefox was useful once upon a time.  Oct 22 08:29
techrights-secWith the ongoing demise of thunderbird I see her as complicit in the eliminationOct 22 08:29
techrights-secof e-mail as a commodity service.  Oct 22 08:29
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schestowitz-TRgoing to town, rianne needs rewplacwmene tmouse asapOct 22 10:04
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schestowitz-TRfound stuff in 6 of 7 shopsOct 22 11:57
schestowitz-TRto at least make the journey worth it, aside from getting a new durable mouseOct 22 11:57
schestowitz-TRthere was some guy at the gadgets and hardware store asking about OfficeOct 22 11:57
schestowitz-TRand the shopkeeper explains to him that's what a licence is forOct 22 11:57
schestowitz-TRthey can't tell the difference between hardware store and MS BSOct 22 11:57
schestowitz-TRhe basically did NOT like the latest version of OfficeOct 22 11:58
schestowitz-TRand wanted an OLD versionOct 22 11:58
schestowitz-TRI didn't say anythingOct 22 11:58
schestowitz-TRthe shopkeeper asked him, what OS he was usingOct 22 11:58
schestowitz-TRthe guy could not even answer the questionOct 22 11:58
techrights-secackOct 22 11:59
techrights-secexcellent that there were items which could be combined to make the trip      Oct 22 11:59
techrights-secworthwhileOct 22 11:59
techrights-secTypical, though, that most don't even know what an OS is.  Sometimes thereOct 22 11:59
techrights-secare those that seem to think that there is only "Windows"Oct 22 11:59
schestowitz-TRexactlyOct 22 12:02
schestowitz-TRI'll post some articles shortly, I'm  off work till monday eveningOct 22 12:02
schestowitz-TRthere si a football match near us in 3 hoursOct 22 12:02
schestowitz-TRso I had to avoid the rushOct 22 12:02
schestowitz-TR3 masksOct 22 12:02
techrights-secas part of the hardwareOct 22 12:02
techrights-secBig crowds then.  Oct 22 12:02
techrights-sec:/Oct 22 12:02
schestowitz-TRmy dad agrees with me on most of these things, but for practical reasons it's harder for him to isolateOct 22 12:04
schestowitz-TRas a high risk group, his group might account for more than 10% extra deaths Oct 22 12:04
schestowitz-TRat least he is aware Oct 22 12:04
schestowitz-TRthought on the way: pfizer: we solve the issue, now everyone can infect everyone! WIN!Oct 22 12:04
schestowitz-TRSalk: we solved polio; now let's spread polio to 4 billion people, no worries about hospitalisationOct 22 12:04
schestowitz-TRthe stadium's carrying capacity is about 50k, with some coming early for pub etc.Oct 22 12:04
schestowitz-TRand it usualyl sells out (the team is considered best in the world or on par with best)Oct 22 12:04
techrights-secackOct 22 12:36
schestowitz-TRlots of wioring work hereOct 22 12:36
schestowitz-TRrianen decided she wants my mouse and I take the new oneOct 22 12:36
schestowitz-TRit feels better so farOct 22 12:36
schestowitz-TRand fully compatible with all the previous x configs for device #, special key identifiers etc.Oct 22 12:36
schestowitz-TR3 mice upstairs (rianne's PCs)Oct 22 12:36
schestowitz-TR3 downstairs (mine)Oct 22 12:36
schestowitz-TRbut we use barrier for one mouse to be masterOct 22 12:36
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schestowitz-TRquite a spectacleOct 22 15:53
schestowitz-TRamazing how upc tries to appoint judges who are in fact working for private patent companiesOct 22 15:53
schestowitz-TRthis is going to go down in flameOct 22 15:53
schestowitz-TRand there is more material by which to challenge the whole systemOct 22 15:53
schestowitz-TRi want to ask though,Oct 22 15:53
schestowitz-TRhow much energy should TR allocate to this issue relative to other topics? Oct 22 15:53
techrights-secUPC -> European Patent  Convention?Oct 22 15:55
techrights-secUPC -> Euroepan Patent Court>Oct 22 15:55
techrights-sec?Oct 22 15:55
techrights-secBoth are worthy topics.  The latter needs to be made to stay dead.Oct 22 15:55
techrights-secand dance on the grave .Oct 22 15:55
schestowitz-TRok, so you say it is indeed a high priorityOct 22 16:00
schestowitz-TRI will do a video later on, I wait for more comments to pile upoOct 22 16:00
schestowitz-TRthere are two new threads Oct 22 16:00
schestowitz-TRit was timed for friday to hide the extent of the conflictsOct 22 16:00
schestowitz-TRand people still rush to call out the BSOct 22 16:00
schestowitz-TRso a good video and article will highlight the comments, not the propagandaOct 22 16:00
schestowitz-TRso now today, maybe monday when some more fodder piles up ;-)Oct 22 16:00
techrights-secThanksOct 22 16:00
techrights-secackOct 22 16:00
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schestowitz-TRi gave ffii a word about itOct 22 16:04
schestowitz-TRwith upc, we always felt "behind"Oct 22 16:04
schestowitz-TRthe boosters lie sand play psychological gamesOct 22 16:04
schestowitz-TRwe need to fight back with mockery, imhoOct 22 16:04
schestowitz-TRand expose the liesOct 22 16:04
schestowitz-TRin the process they discredit the european systemOct 22 16:05
schestowitz-TRlike 4 years of trumpOct 22 16:05
techrights-secI hope the FFII can help.  Can the FSF be resurrected too?Oct 22 16:05
techrights-secThe EFF is a lost cause but there is still an obligation to make a symbolic Oct 22 16:05
techrights-seceffort.Oct 22 16:05
schestowitz-TRif you saw my last video on eff or read the textual summary, eff ddoes not even deal witth patents in the usOct 22 16:05
schestowitz-TRanymore, only one blog posts in 50 days!Oct 22 16:05
techrights-secRight so they can be contacted and their lack of response mockedOct 22 16:06
schestowitz-TRopen letter to eff?Oct 22 16:08
techrights-secPossibly, but one that is well-thought out and covers all the key points.Oct 22 16:21
techrights-secIt's nothing to do in a hurry and should take quite a few days to draft. IMHOOct 22 16:21
schestowitz-TRi've started drafting the monday-ish post re upcOct 22 16:28
schestowitz-TRdraftOct 22 16:28
techrights-seccheckingOct 22 16:30
techrights-sec(who around TR can help with the drafting of the open letter?  It would beOct 22 16:30
techrights-secvery good to get input from several people)Oct 22 16:30
techrights-secIf opensource.com is IBM it should be mentioned in the article, if it is notOct 22 16:30
techrights-secthen some kind of segue is needed to connect the last paragraph to the restOct 22 16:30
techrights-secof the textOct 22 16:30
schestowitz-TRI will add clarifying sentencesOct 22 16:30
schestowitz-TRre eff, someone who knows upc needs to draftOct 22 16:30
schestowitz-TRno hurryOct 22 16:30
techrights-secyesOct 22 16:41
techrights-secno hurry on thatOct 22 16:41
schestowitz-TRUPC is ALWAYS "real soon"Oct 22 16:42
schestowitz-TRRule #1Oct 22 16:42
schestowitz-TRdon't believe themOct 22 16:42
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techrights-secThe arguments that the RIAA are using against AI using copyright Oct 22 17:09
techrights-secapply even more strongly to m$ copilot in the case of software licensing.Oct 22 17:09
techrights-secIt is a situation to watch.Oct 22 17:09
techrights-sechttps://torrentfreak.com/riaa-flags-artificial-intelligence-music-mixer-as-emerging-copyright-threat-221017/Oct 22 17:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-RIAA Flags ‘Artificial Intelligence’ Music Mixer as Emerging Copyright Threat * TorrentFreakOct 22 17:09
schestowitz-TRwe don't have the most RELEVANT material on github and copilotOct 22 17:12
schestowitz-TRbut we have many exclusives comingOct 22 17:12
schestowitz-TRis my latest draft clearer? I changed a lotOct 22 17:12
schestowitz-TRon upc, we need a clear strategy Oct 22 17:12
schestowitz-TRteam upc plays dirty, we don'tOct 22 17:12
schestowitz-TRand "nice guys finish last"Oct 22 17:12
techrights-secArtists working within all kinds of media have raised concerns in recent yearsand increasingly, with the risingOct 22 17:14
techrights-secpopularity of text-to-image generators like DALL-Eabout whether AI-generated art infringes on individuals copyrOct 22 17:14
techrights-secight. Most AI content generators depend on datasets that are filled with original artworks, texts, or audio, andOct 22 17:14
techrights-secuse those original works without the owners permission. """Oct 22 17:14
schestowitz-TRthey should quit calling HEY HIOct 22 17:15
schestowitz-TRfor startersOct 22 17:15
schestowitz-TRit'sa  fair user-ish blenderOct 22 17:15
schestowitz-TRand not a new issueOct 22 17:15
schestowitz-TRit's just more automated nowOct 22 17:15
schestowitz-TRwhich makes it accessible to more people and harder to enforce againOct 22 17:15
techrights-secYes, a strategy is needed, but I am out of ideas there, at least for the moment.Oct 22 17:16
techrights-secThat is aside from resurrecting the FSF a little.Oct 22 17:16
techrights-secUPC -> European Patent Convention ?Oct 22 17:16
techrights-secUPC -> European Patent Court?Oct 22 17:16
schestowitz-TRupc=unified patent courtOct 22 17:17
schestowitz-TRone strategy is, do nothingOct 22 17:17
schestowitz-TRas it might fall apart when defendants bring it to a high courtOct 22 17:17
schestowitz-TRon all sorts of groundsOct 22 17:17
schestowitz-TRand we can focus on other issuesOct 22 17:17
schestowitz-TRseeing that nobody i the EU enforces the f*ing law !!!Oct 22 17:18
techrights-secThat last point, enforcing the law, should be explored yet again.  What recourseOct 22 17:26
techrights-secis there to pursue enforcement?Oct 22 17:26
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schestowitz-TRjust check gemini and http+https log sizes for tm-newOct 22 17:43
schestowitz-TRweb is over 2m in sept., similar so far in oct.Oct 22 17:43
schestowitz-TRgemini also gets a good chunkOct 22 17:43
schestowitz-TRgoing to finalise my post and take restOct 22 17:43
schestowitz-TRrianne will then post linksOct 22 17:43
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schestowitz> <http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/10/21/the-upc-hopes-and-headaches/ <http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/10/21/the-upc-hopes-and-headaches/>>Oct 22 21:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | The UPC - Hopes and Headaches - Kluwer Patent BlogOct 22 21:57
schestowitz> Oct 22 21:57
schestowitz> We need to make some more noise :-)Oct 22 21:57
schestowitz> Oct 22 21:57
schestowitz> It's not over.Oct 22 21:57
schestowitzGrabinski is a pro-swpat judge, there is an 2019 report from a conférence on ipkat where he says 'as such' blahblah.Oct 22 21:57
schestowitzSearch for airbusOct 22 21:57
schestowitzhttp://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/10/21/the-upc-hopes-and-headaches/Oct 22 21:57
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