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| Techrights-sec2 | I've added the prerequisite CPAN modules to Alpine, some via the package | Jul 23 07:37 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | manager (when possible) the remainder via the CPAN module | Jul 23 07:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I've created some placeholder accounts; hopefully the group memberships are | Jul 23 07:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | correct | Jul 23 07:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Please try some of the work flow to be sure; I am sure there are still rough | Jul 23 07:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | edges with the file system permissions. | Jul 23 07:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I've adjusted Apache's vhost configuration extensively. | Jul 23 07:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I'm wondering how we can split out the scripts and such from the main Git branch | Jul 23 07:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I notice that the TLS certificate is not using the right host name nor a wildcard | Jul 23 07:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I added coreutils so that the 'date' utility will behave as expected in the | Jul 23 07:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | shell scripts | Jul 23 07:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | The only downside to Alpine so far, and its a big one, is the lack of manual pages | Jul 23 07:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | We should turn off password authentication for sshd as soon as convenient | Jul 23 07:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | The CSS still needs a lot of polish | Jul 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | 0/ | Jul 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | gm | Jul 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | wonderful news about CPAN and package managers being able to retrieve all the required deps | Jul 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've grown to like SPAN after | Jul 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | SPAN | Jul 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | >CPAN | Jul 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | after first finding out about it 2 decades ago, it was a little intimidating at first | Jul 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the syntax, the permissions, the way to invoke the software and specify modules based | Jul 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | on their context, how to locate/name them | Jul 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | trying account access now, tests.. | Jul 23 07:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | after attempts to use the new account to access via ssh I realised, seeing /home, that it is not | Jul 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | a UNIX account on the system and therefore refers to something else | Jul 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, I see | Jul 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | web-end | Jul 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, I have attempted to add node via tuxmachines and roy | Jul 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | it tries to use /bin/nano | Jul 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather than | Jul 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | /usr/bin/nano | Jul 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is where 'which' tells me the binary is | Jul 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can change this push to git and then pull to server but not yet sure about the workflow | Jul 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, to get to 'roy' (keys and passwords did not work) I su roy from hv->tm-new | Jul 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, git.tuxmachines.org and beta.tuxmachines.org registered now | Jul 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've pulled from TM git just now | Jul 23 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | do you want me to mail marius with password for the beta to give feedback? | Jul 23 08:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 08:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jul 23 08:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes please his feedback is important since this is for him also | Jul 23 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | one quick question | Jul 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | your username is aaaa | Jul 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | if that's iuntentional, then we can allow read-only access to git.tuxmachines.org for people to | Jul 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | checkout the CMS and maybe replicate it, give back etc. | Jul 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless there is something sensitive in the commit log | Jul 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | at a later stage, assuming we have gemini.tuxmachines.org | Jul 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | we can reuse the code from TR to present TM Git over gemini | Jul 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would be one afternoon's work | Jul 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just exited cpanel, but before doing so I added subdomain gemini.tuxmachines.org | Jul 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | not that this is a priority | Jul 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would need its own separate dir with files (another format) | Jul 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and something like agate on port 1965 | Jul 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | but at least the server now had 4 aliases | Jul 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | gemini, beta, news, and git | Jul 23 08:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I'm not sure about how to set up read-only access, Git is complicated that way | Jul 23 08:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | thanks | Jul 23 08:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | something for later | Jul 23 08:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | still fighting with Git on news.tuxmachines.org :( | Jul 23 08:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | when it works, it is rather good (i.e. useful) but it is hard to use | Jul 23 08:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and even harder to configure | Jul 23 08:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'\ve just written the output as root history to my homedir | Jul 23 08:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | assuming that might come in handy later when we do the same with TR | Jul 23 08:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe TR will have the same workflow and CMS | Jul 23 08:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | alongside the existinf stuff | Jul 23 08:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | workflow consolidation would simplify things | Jul 23 08:25 |
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| schestowitz-TR | OK, nano works now | Jul 23 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | adding test | Jul 23 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it tries to find /usr/bin/tidy | Jul 23 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks | Jul 23 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | record added :-) | Jul 23 08:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok, the scripts are now available on news... | Jul 23 08:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | adding | Jul 23 08:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | added | Jul 23 08:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I forgot about the binary dependencies :/ | Jul 23 08:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | excellent | Jul 23 08:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok test the tm-extract... script | Jul 23 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | the -b option is no longer valid | Jul 23 08:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I tried without it, as the paths are the same | Jul 23 08:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | tm-extract-posts-sql.pl -f -v -d $(date -d yesterday "+%Y%m%d") -s | Jul 23 08:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | steps 2 - 5 in the workflow can be rolled into a single script | Jul 23 08:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, the node shows up OK, I think the genration of front page, rss etc. is still a separate thing | Jul 23 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it looks like some time soon rianne and I will add new nodes to both sites at the same time | Jul 23 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | to dry-testmaybe at a later stage let people have a sneak peak, maybe by month's end? | Jul 23 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | those are separate scripts for now | Jul 23 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | thanks | Jul 23 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there is an obnoxious variant of vi on alpine, I have to figure out what's the | Jul 23 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | deal with that and if it can be countered | Jul 23 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the sqlite3 database is the authority for TM, from it new layouts and pages | Jul 23 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | can be generated, it is also there to force an absolute, rigid structure on | Jul 23 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the data contained within | Jul 23 08:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, tuxmachines is not "orginal" "content" but techrgihts is | Jul 23 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but thinking about it, putting pertinent static pages in git would not be a good idea | Jul 23 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | as that would not keep sqlite in sync and basically manifest two versions with possibly | Jul 23 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | conflicting edits | Jul 23 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | the techrights DB grows a lot faster because of Daily Links for the most part | Jul 23 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just checked db dumps, they are OK | Jul 23 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | dmesg shows very few xfs-related messages | Jul 23 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but sometimes some gz files can still 'fail' | Jul 23 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I say "few" I mean, I observed maybe 1 or 2 warnings per day | Jul 23 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | having that said, after xfs_repair it seems like the issue isn't critical | Jul 23 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | from the lenses of kaniini, I don't want to bother too much | Jul 23 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | seeing that everything generally works, inc. the lion's share of backups, | Jul 23 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | as we transitioned to a more "modern" and robust workflow, system | Jul 23 08:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok but file system problems are very worrysome even if they are "just" warnings | Jul 23 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I agree. I will add | Jul 23 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) this was recently looked at, fixed | Jul 23 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) kaniini said from the admin's (hv) end it looks not a big deal, not to say "benign" | Jul 23 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | c) I want to issue a payment soon, don't want to "waste" more time for now | Jul 23 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure if you noticed, but debian.community will likely be confiscated soon | Jul 23 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have one epo series ongoing (more to come), 2 onging Microsoft series | Jul 23 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | the one about media manipulation was in LXer yesterday | Jul 23 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I try to keep productive too | Jul 23 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday, albeit many posts were memes, there were 21 posts | Jul 23 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | this weekend I have my plate full | Jul 23 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will record shortly, re georg weber and swpats | Jul 23 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | will say "ota" when I start to avoid system bell distracting | Jul 23 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks for all the word, tonight I will show marius the site | Jul 23 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and rianne may add some test posts after work (she finished 5:30pm, then I take over till 1am | Jul 23 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | the OS migration task is finally, years late, "in progress" | Jul 23 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | tuxmachines can be a model for techrights later, many of the same commands to be run there | Jul 23 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | as the OS is identical | Jul 23 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | we can make suibsites, e.g. wiki.techrights.org, with legacy URLs still working | Jul 23 08:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | excellent | Jul 23 08:53 |
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| schestowitz-TR | OTA! | Jul 23 09:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | 45 mins long | Jul 23 09:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | so this can take a while to process | Jul 23 09:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's about swpats | Jul 23 09:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and debunking all those lies from the EPO uusing their offical PDFs | Jul 23 09:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if only a few INSIDERS at the EPO listen, that's good | Jul 23 09:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 09:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | good | Jul 23 09:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | every bit helps | Jul 23 09:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | apachetop says 2MB/sec since reboot | Jul 23 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | (motly video traffic) | Jul 23 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | no editing needed, but I will start writing the text | Jul 23 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne already cleaned her feeds for tuxmachines before work at 9am | Jul 23 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | having breakfast soon | Jul 23 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | biab | Jul 23 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Jul 23 10:13 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jul 23 10:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | CII needs to be expanded in the summary | Jul 23 10:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | (I know what they are but it is not a common acronym) | Jul 23 10:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | The closing paragraph could end with a call to stop issuing fraudulent patents | Jul 23 10:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | or something | Jul 23 10:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | correcting | Jul 23 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | i cover some such in the video | Jul 23 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | adding more text, jhang on | Jul 23 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | examiners sort of ask for help | Jul 23 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | they want the job, but don't want to break the law | Jul 23 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | see last paragraph just added, I will do further work on it later, got daily links files | Jul 23 10:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jul 23 10:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | s/using/issuing/ ? | Jul 23 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | right,w ell spotted. eta for video 1 hour, maybe more like 40 mins if I push rsync repeatedly to improve overlap | Jul 23 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | between upload and file processing | Jul 23 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | but this video has no urgency, unlike some | Jul 23 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm going to do my round of weekend phonecalls soon | Jul 23 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | still no word from my unvle in FL | Jul 23 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | which makes me more worried, as I asked for updates | Jul 23 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | they didn't tell me if it's coviv | Jul 23 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | if it is, he's in the "right" age (90s) | Jul 23 10:36 |
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| schestowitz-TR | i wanted to comment on the "smart" phone video | Jul 23 11:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | IO partly did in IRC | Jul 23 11:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | as the topic was interesting to me | Jul 23 11:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's not ditching tracking devices | Jul 23 11:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe that would be the next step | Jul 23 11:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I cannot recommend it like thr RMS videos re phones | Jul 23 11:04 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the second weekend in a row no weekend edition from counterpunch | Jul 23 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they make up for it during the week | Jul 23 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | but on sunday they make some paywalled stuff and no ~50 items near end of week | Jul 23 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | so bottom line is, I wonder what state they are in financially | Jul 23 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | or health | Jul 23 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, founder died | Jul 23 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | many sites later syndicate C, and vice versa | Jul 23 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | an important "counter punch" to power and MSM | Jul 23 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | different, but FACTUAL | Jul 23 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | the stuff MSM knows to be true but does not wish to SAY | Jul 23 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | think of it like TR for for politics, finance, social issues... | Jul 23 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | *but for | Jul 23 11:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would be a net loss to public voice/resistance | Jul 23 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | from a selfish POV, fewer links for me to go through | Jul 23 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then again MSM will have less pushback | Jul 23 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that's further danger | Jul 23 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | the vanishing "noise deserts" | Jul 23 12:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it would be a net loss to public voice/resistance | Jul 23 12:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | from a selfish POV, fewer links for me to go through | Jul 23 12:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but then again MSM will have less pushback | Jul 23 12:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and that's further danger | Jul 23 12:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the vanishing "noise deserts" | Jul 23 12:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | . | Jul 23 12:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 12:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | their coverage is important | Jul 23 12:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | even the WaPo and NYT are not very good any more | Jul 23 12:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they are on the edge of the news desert | Jul 23 12:17 |
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| schestowitz-TR | sorry to dwell on it, but I saw washpo before bezos | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and nytimes when they covered stuxnet and had james risen ob board | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | friend of wikileaks et al | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | when WBers still had a voice in the media | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know who leakeded the story to Risen | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | almost died in prison with a heart condition | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | Sterling | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody even mentions his name anymore | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | RT still gave some western WBers a voice after that | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | now RT is blacklisted, deplotformed etc. | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they have nobody to turn to | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | some drone WBer like Ling and others were reading TR | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | ioerror too | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're nowhere to be seen online anymore | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | we live ina post=WBer age | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | where those that exist are being called "CIA" and sometimes actually arer | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | like when theyd decide to throw certain companies and/or oligarchs under the "bus" | Jul 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe for a lack of docility on some issue (hard to know what happens behind the covers) | Jul 23 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 12:24 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I agree that it looks coordinated | Jul 23 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they can toss $70,000,000,000.00 habitually at some RICH companies under the guise of nationalism | Jul 23 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "CHIPS" | Jul 23 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | how about the national interest associated with minting capital for a free press? | Jul 23 12:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | which of the two is more important? | Jul 23 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | windowsXP for occupying troops hunting for middle eastern oil? or protecting Mo Bin SALAFI? | Jul 23 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | (Hololens GRAFT) | Jul 23 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | KSA funds for Twitter (before and DURING the Musk coup) | Jul 23 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but no KSA funds for journalism | Jul 23 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | "dude, you could at least sponsor one tandoori oven for each news rooom" :s | Jul 23 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is beyond plasusible that th attack on media receptive to indsiders in POWERFUL | Jul 23 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | entitries (gov, companies, piublic, private , miitary) is not only intentional but well | Jul 23 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | cooredinated at some level | Jul 23 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | ad i slipped outside the control of those who wanted to give a 5th estate | Jul 23 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and regret it | Jul 23 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they can toss $70,000,000,000.00 habitually at some RICH companies under the guise of nationalism | Jul 23 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "CHIPS" | Jul 23 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | how about the national interest associated with minting capital for a free press? | Jul 23 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | which of the two is more important? | Jul 23 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | windowsXP for occupying troops hunting for middle eastern oil? or protecting Mo Bin SALAFI? | Jul 23 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | (Hololens GRAFT) | Jul 23 12:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I agree that it looks coordinated | Jul 23 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> UK COVID-19 Data Shows Citizens Should Keep Distance and Keep the Masks on https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/covid-19-soon-a-million-patients/ | Jul 23 12:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK COVID-19 Data Shows Citizens Should Keep Distance and Keep the Masks on | Jul 23 12:44 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 12:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it was disappointing and inappropriate for Biden to visit without firt | Jul 23 12:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | resolving that matter; the US has instead chosen to allow KSA to brush | Jul 23 12:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the crime(s) under the rug | Jul 23 12:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Jul 23 12:44 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 12:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | US deaths have exceeded 1M | Jul 23 12:45 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html | Jul 23 12:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | Covid in the U.S.: Latest Maps, Case and Death Counts - The New York Times | Jul 23 12:45 | |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe it'll kill my uncle | Jul 23 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've been close to him for 23 years | Jul 23 12:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :( | Jul 23 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I hope he avoids it | Jul 23 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've woried for years it would finish him | Jul 23 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's not in a bad state relatively speaking | Jul 23 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | I added one sentence tomy postr | Jul 23 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | I forgot to paste that from my text fikle | Jul 23 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | about 200,000+ dead in UK | Jul 23 12:49 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that's quite a lot and certain politicians encouraged the activities which | Jul 23 12:49 |
| Techrights-sec2 | prevented getting a lid on the situation and actually exacerbated the | Jul 23 12:49 |
| Techrights-sec2 | effects of the epidemic | Jul 23 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | jwz (iirc, jeremy zawinsky or whatever, the mozilla (co)founder) showed this was done after intensive lobbying by travelk-lretaed insdustries | Jul 23 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least in CA/SF area | Jul 23 12:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Jul 23 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the airlines need to go under, at least as they are run today they should not | Jul 23 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | be allowed to continue to go on both for environmental / climate reasons | Jul 23 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but also epidemiological reasons. There is also the matter of civil rights | Jul 23 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and the TSA has spread abusive, demeaning practices throughout the world and | Jul 23 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | normalized such treatment | Jul 23 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | tsa has normalised this also for land travel, e.g. buses and trains | Jul 23 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | this would be unthionkable in the 1990s | Jul 23 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | hysteria over potential train attack | Jul 23 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | that would never kill 200,000 Brits anyhow | Jul 23 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | specific politicians have had an active hand in those 200k deaths | Jul 23 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | "party like it's y2k" | Jul 23 12:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :( | Jul 23 12:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | "They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum / And they charged the people a dollar and a half just to see them" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/22/capitalisms-practicality-while-we-bake-death | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 23 12:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Capitalism's 'Practicality' While We Bake to Death | Tony Norman | Jul 23 12:58 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Dear Brit, don't worry about the person next to you on the train being a bomber or carrying a long knife but the person next to you having COVID-19 because it's statistically obvious what's far more like to kill you https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/covid-19-soon-a-million-patients/ | Jul 23 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK COVID-19 Data Shows Citizens Should Keep Distance and Keep the Masks on | Jul 23 13:01 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | my sister was told off for wearing a mask at work | Jul 23 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | (of course later she caught the virus) | Jul 23 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | polticians who wear is NOW will get trolled | Jul 23 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it has been politicised | Jul 23 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if they speak of organised hate crimes they get called "phobic" | Jul 23 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | like thr "irrational fear" of Microsoft | Jul 23 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's another topic | Jul 23 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm gonna make some epo memes now | Jul 23 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | tonight I will speak to marius | Jul 23 13:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | everything in the US is politicized , IMO due to the pervasiveness of | Jul 23 13:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Facebook and other divisive social control media. | Jul 23 13:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | The EU is not a bastion of rationality though, Facebook, Tiktok and other | Jul 23 13:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | mind viruses are spreading | Jul 23 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | quit being a facebookphobe, that's racist and luddite | Jul 23 13:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :/ | Jul 23 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | "but I have phd in tech field" | Jul 23 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | "you are crazy, are you on the spectrum???" | Jul 23 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | (voting [sic] machines come to mind) | Jul 23 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | "do you support trump??????" | Jul 23 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | metal poetry | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | *mental | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | when they are done destroying the media | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | they will destroy how future gens "consume" information | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | when they weed out traffic to what used to be made | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | they will claim the latter is "better" | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a bit of a loop | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I can't quite articulate it just yet | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | the key point is | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | convince young people that reading news sites is "uncool" | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "dead" | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that "your friends" (zuck, algo, musk) know better | Jul 23 13:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and are journalism | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | twitter advertises itself as news outlet about ukraine | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I took screenshots months ago | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I left it | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | xrevan still keeps linking to social control media as a source of "news" | Jul 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | re ukraine/russia | Jul 23 13:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there was a good blog post about the tragic generational differences | Jul 23 13:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | about the newer generations not using computers but insted being exploited yby | Jul 23 13:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | them instead | Jul 23 13:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :( | Jul 23 13:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | social control media is -- at best -- hearsay | Jul 23 13:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it can be kind of used as a pointer to find real source but then one has to | Jul 23 13:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ask at the same time, which messages were suppressed and why was the message | Jul 23 13:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | received chosen for advancement | Jul 23 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | send him or her one of the many articles about much older experiments by FB | Jul 23 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | so-called experimenta | Jul 23 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | manuipulatio of emoption | Jul 23 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | with the middleman ("platform") as the bookie or the power broker | Jul 23 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | agenda-setter | Jul 23 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | inciter | Jul 23 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | suppressor | Jul 23 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | spinner | Jul 23 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | .... | Jul 23 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | (distractor from other scandals or burning issues) | Jul 23 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | Or burning THE issues | Jul 23 13:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it! """ | Jul 23 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | There is also the addiction factor. Like other types of junkies they deny | Jul 23 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | not just the addiction but the vehicle for it and the fallout from it. | Jul 23 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there was a report the other week confirming that many of the politicians | Jul 23 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I had supsected of being influenced by the kremlin, through money, actually | Jul 23 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | were; I can't find the links again though. I think they were included | Jul 23 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | in one of the batches | Jul 23 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | from my own experiene, twitter can be "adddictive" becayse | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) fomo | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) notification | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | c) a sense of impact, rewarded, like gamification | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | angry birds, with like 330,000 points just to pass some level in 20 second | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the new video you sent re smartphone mentions the mental impact of notifications in one's pocket | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | or stress, or overload outside your pace and tccontrol | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | they push messages to you | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather than you pulling when free/available | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the way I've done email for years now is once a day in batches | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I sent that "smart"phone video to rianne | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | she doesn't use such shit | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | but she did a decade ago | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was a 'second hand smoker' of that sort of thing (through her) | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | did not contriobute anything to my life | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | when we sit to eat we talk | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | GASP... to each other | Jul 23 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | i try to teach my mom to do the same | Jul 23 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's hard to treat addicts | Jul 23 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | whoa re surrounded by other addcucius | Jul 23 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and are therefore lacking the capacity to comprehend their inadequacy | Jul 23 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | == | Jul 23 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | it should be able table manners ands social cue, tact | Jul 23 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't pick up something off the table when someone talks to you | Jul 23 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. don't stare into it and then mubme | Jul 23 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "muhhhh?" | Jul 23 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | *mumble | Jul 23 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | soner or later decent people won't sit down to interact with you | Jul 23 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you will limit your live to other addicts | Jul 23 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | sitting for dinner with miss sandbag | Jul 23 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | pumping shit to your brain | Jul 23 13:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | oh my | Jul 23 13:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, as far as I can tell all the rules about dealing with addicts apply | Jul 23 13:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but it's not just a basic addiction, the devices contain multple programs | Jul 23 13:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | each acting effectively as Skinner boxes to control and program the victim | Jul 23 13:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Maybe a slap-and-stomp campaign can be cultivated globally? | Jul 23 13:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | slap the phone down and stomp on it, if it is brought out at the table | Jul 23 13:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | kids already are subjected to many more times the number of contact hours | Jul 23 13:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | to corporate maniuplation than with their own "friends" and relatives | Jul 23 13:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, pumping shit and preventing learning and socialization | Jul 23 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't plan to ever have kids, so whatever they teach them re copyright, corporations etc. | Jul 23 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | likely can be kept at bay | Jul 23 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the state does not educate kids here | Jul 23 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | it "prepares" them | Jul 23 13:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | afaik there is copyright maximalist lying which is the foundation of the | Jul 23 13:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | curriculum and no facts are brought up, ever, in that regard | Jul 23 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | years ago, in euipo, and again since then as epo head, campinos bragged about pushing this | Jul 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | "IP" propaganda into schools | Jul 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | moaning that the kids aren't bveing "taught" this shit | Jul 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, he's a lawyer for a bank | Jul 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | rebranded as "IP" guru | Jul 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's a liar and crim | Jul 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | I covered somke of his lying videos | Jul 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and mentioned his lying CV this morning in the video | Jul 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's a pser | Jul 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | *(poser | Jul 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they try to target the next generations | Jul 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | kids | Jul 23 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | to start over with more leverage over public perceptions | Jul 23 13:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it's so bad that probably most people think that FOSS is illegal | Jul 23 13:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes I read about him ;) | Jul 23 13:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I was going to modify one script but had to fix some other scripts first | Jul 23 13:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | as a prerequisite to that and now I can't recall even which script it was | Jul 23 13:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | let alone the planned task. Oh well | Jul 23 13:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | At least the prerequisites are taken care of now. | Jul 23 13:45 |
| Techrights-sec2 | no it was before we resumed chatting, it was hours ago and I had completely | Jul 23 13:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | forgotten about it; | Jul 23 13:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I'll have to have coffee or somethning else to see if the idea wanders back in | Jul 23 13:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | as it had wandered out | Jul 23 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry, I'm distracted you | Jul 23 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | *I'vee | Jul 23 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | later.... :-) | Jul 23 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | happens twiece to me today, 2pm here | Jul 23 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I told rianne, what ZI do remembere is that neither was of importance | Jul 23 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and thinking about it would not be worth the time | Jul 23 13:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Git is hard to get to work in a read-only context, so I'm not sure about | Jul 23 13:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | how to deal with the DocumentRoot on news. yet | Jul 23 13:48 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/21/business/software-james-bessen-book.html | Jul 23 14:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Not just software patents, but decommitization through gratuitous complexity | Jul 23 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | How Software Is Stifling Competition and Slowing Innovation - The New York Times | Jul 23 14:18 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Bessen knows Techreights | Jul 23 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I hope we taught him about several opther aspects | Jul 23 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | does this go into next Daily Links? | Jul 23 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't want to replicate effort | Jul 23 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks | Jul 23 14:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | already there | Jul 23 14:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but worth extra attention since it does bring up software patents without | Jul 23 14:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | naming them explicitly and it does at the same time perpetuate some persistent | Jul 23 14:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | bits of disinformation too | Jul 23 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe to fit the editorial mindset of nytimes and boston u | Jul 23 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody gets tenures foer saying bolish patents | Jul 23 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | only emeritus like richard wolff can say this | Jul 23 14:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | probaly so | Jul 23 14:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ^probably | Jul 23 14:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | looking at the navigation, if a post gets updated the backlink from the current | Jul 23 14:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | post points to it but the updated post does not reciprocate; perhaps it would | Jul 23 14:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | be better to roll back that change from the other day and not update the | Jul 23 14:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | backlink, it might be enough just to leave it in the feed; | Jul 23 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | as long as there is another navigational path, such as "calendar" style index, | Jul 23 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would let everything get indexed and reindexed | Jul 23 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | not many people press back and forth | Jul 23 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. those who do this within their feed-reading software, wherein the UI has a ton more | Jul 23 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | flexibility | Jul 23 14:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes above the footer, it is there in the "Other Recent Tux Machines" list of | Jul 23 14:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | recent posts. | Jul 23 14:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Yes. | Jul 23 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | pardon me doing lots of memes | Jul 23 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | by popular demand | Jul 23 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | it helps morale there | Jul 23 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some get sent to me | Jul 23 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | they come for the money | Jul 23 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and stay for the rotten tomatoes | Jul 23 14:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | np | Jul 23 14:58 |
| Techrights-sec2 | fixed | Jul 23 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> UK Government Advice on COVID-19 is a Hoax (Pretending It's No Longer a Peril That Costs Many Lives) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/safely-with-covid/ | Jul 23 15:14 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK Government Advice on COVID-19 is a Hoax (Pretending It’s No Longer a Peril That Costs Many Lives) | Jul 23 15:14 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | still wondering what task I had planned for in the morning | Jul 23 15:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | oh well, I'll avoid changing anything till tomorrow so that there is some | Jul 23 15:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | stability in the UI | Jul 23 15:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could, in hindsight, say | Jul 23 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | "living safely with AIDS" | Jul 23 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | to use their text there | Jul 23 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | "living safely with flammable buildings" | Jul 23 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | "living safely with Boris" LOL! | Jul 23 15:18 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> [Meme] “Back to Normal” Just Means Adoption of Nihilism or Mass Culling of the ‘Weak’ (Old People Who Typically Enjoyed Pensions) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/got-covid-meme/ | Jul 23 15:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » [Meme] “Back to Normal” Just Means Adoption of Nihilism or Mass Culling of the ‘Weak’ (Old People Who Typically Enjoyed Pensions) | Jul 23 15:23 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | there is no doubt in my mind | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) financial institutions benefit from this | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) pension companies depend on such culling | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | c) behind the scnes they lobby a bit to "open up" | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is what happens in rotting econommies | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | German during hyper inflation gassed people | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | Today we do it with class, and leave hospital bills to relatives too | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | Germany did not send "gas bills" to relatives | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | 200,000 dead (usually old, over 60) Brits, life shortened by 20 years | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | 20x20,000poundx200,000 | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | ctrlalt+f for kclac | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1.6 trillion pounds | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | the national deficit (debt) here is about 2.2 trillion by now, I think | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlike spanish flu, this virus very specifically kills people who are no longer working | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | i.e. they don't bring much "capital" into the economy | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am NOT suggesting this was designed or intentional | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather, it was embraced by many opportunists | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | each with her or his own agenbda | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | like companies being bailed out | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the name of pandemic relief | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | or shutting down small rivals | Jul 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | now food prices go through the roofB | Jul 23 15:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 15:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | b) if they didn't before they do now :/ | Jul 23 15:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that pandemic has been going on long enough that I would expect the gamblers to | Jul 23 15:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | try to count on it for a profit | Jul 23 15:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, embraced by opportunists and similar | Jul 23 15:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | sen grayson; | Jul 23 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | "don't stop working. if you stop working, die quickly" | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | make away for new workers, you are taking up valuable space :/ | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | *way | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | "see you in heaven..." *sniggers* *sends funeral bills" | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | side story, my sister got married in 2005 or 06 | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | must be the latter | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I already wrote in BN | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | at the wedding, I spent like 2 hours chatting with my dad's cousin | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | he felt like he didn't make use of his life | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and wasted it away sitting on inherited money | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | he still hasn't found himself | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he was fascinated by what I was doing online | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | his kids are both do-nothing losers | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | apparently common in such families with little incentive to study, work... | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlike his family, we all need to work, all the time... he was never in that position | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | as his dad was very very lucky | Jul 23 15:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 15:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :( | Jul 23 15:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes that kind of money tends to do that to people | Jul 23 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people realise at 20 that the money can technically go with them to the grave | Jul 23 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | technically | Jul 23 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | with "them" | Jul 23 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | some realise it at 40 | Jul 23 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but by then have dependpents | Jul 23 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | some realise this at 80 | Jul 23 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | then they waste away money on gold and golf shit | Jul 23 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne bought land 2 months ago | Jul 23 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | to help bail out the sister | Jul 23 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | (not really out of choice) | Jul 23 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | some rich people justify self-harm by saying shallow stuff like "need to enjoy life" | Jul 23 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | equating narcotics with happiness | Jul 23 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're in for quite a ride, esp. when the dependability stops being a choice | Jul 23 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | nicotine, booze, pretty much all social control media ;-) | Jul 23 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | (uncle in hospital now is how I matured faster as a teen, mentally) | Jul 23 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was in his early 70 and considered me like his fourth son (he still does) | Jul 23 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | 20+ years ago I said I'd travel there is something happen | Jul 23 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | now with covid and post 9/11... very improbable | Jul 23 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | even just the latter (travel got very unpleasant) | Jul 23 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I was a kid flights were FUN! I looked forwar to the FLIGHTS | Jul 23 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | nice food, sofa-like cushions | Jul 23 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | passengers with manners | Jul 23 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | when they turn off the light, quiet | Jul 23 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | like in the cinema | Jul 23 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | planes, my mom told me, reserve some seats for ewmergenices like funerals | Jul 23 15:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | like when she flew to one | Jul 23 15:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am probably forgetting whose... maybe her dad's | Jul 23 15:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | coming back from holiday | Jul 23 15:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | (yes, it was her dad's... and her dad told her not to go on holiday that time... | Jul 23 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | so she felt guilt after that) | Jul 23 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | === | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | they put my mom on an overbooked flight | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and caused stress for both of us | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, that was either jet2 or easyjet | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wrote about it in my blog around 2014 | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | vis-a-vis, why NOT to fly anymore | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | with practice like these, airlines should go under | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | michael west does s aseries of articles about quantas right now | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | like hos bailout money got sent to a chinese contractors | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | so aussies basically subsidise some foreign fiurm that takes Aussie jobs | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | offshore | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | in my last flight, berlin, they put us on temporary 'airport' anc charge airport fees as if we were getting served | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and there were a lot of annoying delays and not even enough setas in whgich to wait for the plane... for hours | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | many passengers literally just sat on the dirty floor | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | welcome to deutschland | Jul 23 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | the master race | Jul 23 16:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | the last 3 air strips sucked out any remannt of desire to travel by air | Jul 23 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | going tby boat to ireland | Jul 23 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | removing the need for all that digit-trip searching | Jul 23 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the boat itself give you pleny of room and things to do... in comfort | Jul 23 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | *air trips | Jul 23 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | *digital-step searching | Jul 23 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | they should call it "air strips" | Jul 23 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | they scan you naked as precondition for boarding a plane | Jul 23 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they don't test you for covid-19 | Jul 23 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | trip-=strip - many punchline possible along those lines | Jul 23 16:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it's about establishing demeaning, dehumanizing behavior and normalizing | Jul 23 16:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that kind of treatment throughout society | Jul 23 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ring has many punchlines associated with it now | Jul 23 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | with "spy meters" they keep trying new pressure atctics | Jul 23 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they phone us to scare us | Jul 23 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe one day the water companies (treatment companies) will save that "to save water" | Jul 23 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | they need to attach some digital circuitry to your "dumb" bowl | Jul 23 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "OK, Google!" | Jul 23 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | gen z: ok, master | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | gen z_b: ok, master, may I have another one (reference) | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | amazonp pays you in credit | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | fb pays you in "likes" | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | icbm pays fedora volunteers with panda NFTs (the community is too dead to get any, pocock had many "badges" | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they still took lawyers to crush his voice) | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulag poays in search rankings | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft pays for you to open the gates to the trojan horse where you work/ed | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | apropos, david stenberg | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | *daniel | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think you saw my post from last night | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could not help myself any longer | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's boapsting about the 'charity' Microsoft(TM) | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | his blog is full of this shit | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | sweden lost many citizens who left as they felt like the country had become us proxy | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I started hearing this around 2004/5 | Jul 23 16:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 16:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | stenberg is selling out for so very little | Jul 23 16:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I saw his blog post and, yes, your post | Jul 23 16:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Sweden is where Bill Gates personally invente The Internet don't you know? | Jul 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least Microsoft sent the message to Daniel via a "She/her" booster | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | because nothing says "progressive" like a bunch of criminals and thugs | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | i did mention daniel's history of not getting us visa | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | for some really bizarre reasons | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't even wish to speculate if encryption was in some way connected to it | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | given stories I heard of people who develop their own ciphers | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the menacing treatment they receive for it | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | "the invisible threat" | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "fear of the invisiblke" rathere | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a couple of manunian who withdraw money once a year and pay for everything with cash | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | *mancuinians | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and wear masks in summer 2022 | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | the mostly deadly covid19 by far so far... | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | most deadly SUMMER | Jul 23 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I posted the numberc comparatively | Jul 23 16:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes I recall that | Jul 23 16:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | no idea | Jul 23 16:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | he never wrote a retrospective analysis | Jul 23 16:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe I should do another post about it | Jul 23 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | because the numbers got very ugly this month | Jul 23 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | (covid19) | Jul 23 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | re stenberg, he wrote a long and highly cited post detailing the chronology of his passport ordeal maybe 3 years aog | Jul 23 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | when he finally, very belatedlky, got one | Jul 23 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | no idea why he even bothered tbh | Jul 23 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the time wasting on such flights can be used to DeleteGithub or GiveUpGitHub sans stupid hashtags | Jul 23 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | also the time he wastes tweeting and bragging about ShitHub "stars" | Jul 23 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I didn't take screenshots of those rave posts | Jul 23 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | using Microsoft metrics for showoff | Jul 23 16:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes but I never saw an explanation for the delay or why he bothered | Jul 23 16:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | maybe if we send him some t-shirts and the occasional envelope of petty cash | Jul 23 16:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | he'll change his tune (again) | Jul 23 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | he even boasted about some stupid Microsoft NFT | Jul 23 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | something about the space mission | Jul 23 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | everyone got a "arctic vault" NFT | Jul 23 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | he wrote some blog or several blog posts to brag about this crap | Jul 23 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | legitimising the prison | Jul 23 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | with its worthless NFTs | Jul 23 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, I'll do a summer to summer comparison now.. covid19 | Jul 23 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I startt work i 1 hours | Jul 23 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | this should be interesting | Jul 23 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | it always echoes what happens in other nations | Jul 23 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | as the policies on this mater tend to get 'harmonised' | Jul 23 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | cansscading down for rogue states | Jul 23 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | regulatory capture | Jul 23 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | then inherited outwards | Jul 23 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> UK 200,000 COVID-19 Deaths Was One Month Ago, Based on New Figures https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/uk-200000-covid-19-deaths/ | Jul 23 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK 200,000 COVID-19 Deaths Was One Month Ago, Based on New Figures | Jul 23 16:49 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 16:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 'harmonization' is used to ratchet down draconian and misdesigned laws | Jul 23 16:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | one of the worst examples is copyright | Jul 23 16:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it;s the thin edge of the wedge in cases like that, the rogue states have | Jul 23 16:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | little overt influence but changes for the worse there can still be leveraged | Jul 23 16:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | elsewhere. However it is more common in recent decades for ostensibly | Jul 23 16:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | democratic governments to allow corporations to engage in secret negotiations | Jul 23 16:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ^secret, binding | Jul 23 16:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | on their behalf and then rubberstamp the results | Jul 23 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | UPC | Jul 23 16:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | UPC reminds me of EPC; When you write EPC, be sure to annotate whether | Jul 23 16:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | you are referring to The European Patent Convention or something else. | Jul 23 16:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | It is not always obvious from the context, and those less familiar with | Jul 23 16:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the topics will probably not guess right | Jul 23 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | UPC | Jul 23 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | \ | Jul 23 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | the choice of names is intentioanlly bad | Jul 23 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | EU | Jul 23 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | Community | Jul 23 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | Unity | Jul 23 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | \ | Jul 23 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | unified | Jul 23 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | unitary | Jul 23 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and something that sounds like EPC | Jul 23 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | but is in fact a complete violation of the EPC | Jul 23 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | these are lawyers | Jul 23 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | they know best how to lie and | Jul 23 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | how to get away with the lie | Jul 23 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and make it seem plausible they didn't mean to mislead | Jul 23 16:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Yes of course, M$ does a lot of the same | Jul 23 16:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | "plausible deniability" strikes again | Jul 23 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | Miguel did this to MAUI | Jul 23 16:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | mexican devs who actually LOVE GNU/Linux | Jul 23 16:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and make a distro | Jul 23 16:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | nitrux | Jul 23 16:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still await some court/case-connected material collected as evidence | Jul 23 16:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | it can explain what happened to nat and miguel | Jul 23 16:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | patience is a virtue here to avoid publishing unverified material or speculations | Jul 23 16:56 |
| Techrights-sec2 | excellent | Jul 23 16:57 |
| Techrights-sec2 | how long before the court material is available? | Jul 23 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is avail;able already, but more work is needed | Jul 23 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | we do 3 major series atm | Jul 23 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | I plan to continue the media opne and epo one tonight | Jul 23 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and failing tonight, tomorrow | Jul 23 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm behind on rss feeds and also wait to tyest the new TM site when rianne's shift is finished | Jul 23 16:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | the github one can run/last until 2023 | Jul 23 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | at this turtle pace | Jul 23 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | publish, test water, get email from the lawyer, carry on | Jul 23 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | see what bugs them | Jul 23 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3 people are very eager to hide the case and get on with it | Jul 23 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | as they are too young to be unemployed | Jul 23 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't buy discounted foods and some live in super-expensive estates | Jul 23 17:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 17:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I would guess that their behavior is not unusual for microsofters and | Jul 23 17:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that enough investigation could kick over the ant nest. | Jul 23 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | mr. hololens should have been arested | Jul 23 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | mr. gates should have been arrested | Jul 23 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | they should not "step down" or asked to leave | Jul 23 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | miguel pretend he's some yuppie pensioner | Jul 23 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | who do you think he does all day? | Jul 23 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | (intel's last CEO should have also been arrestyed, but when did we last see CEO arrest in US of amnesty?) | Jul 23 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | at Microsoft, like most places (epo also, plus eupipo, eu, eipo), everything is connected | Jul 23 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | the miguel and nat thing is connected to azure too | Jul 23 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | they went one suffocation "too far" | Jul 23 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | not a "well, he's dead" | Jul 23 17:05 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yep | Jul 23 17:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | clue is also in the header of the shithub series | Jul 23 17:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | "why don't you just kill yourself" | Jul 23 17:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | real sms | Jul 23 17:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, messenger, not sms | Jul 23 17:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | who does sms these days? | Jul 23 17:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | afaik the SCO case is still ongoing | Jul 23 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and still sponsored by M$ | Jul 23 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | MIT as good as killed him | Jul 23 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | MIT could have ended the case, heck they could have prevented it from starting | Jul 23 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but they were already in Bill's/Epstein's money by then weren't they? | Jul 23 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | debian (spi) spent a fortune tryint to "kill" a site (in reality, just "relocating" all the very ame stories) | Jul 23 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | when there are rich sponsors like in sco case trying to eliminate voices and you report every step ytou can prevent that from working | Jul 23 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | aaron swartz killed himelf as it would be too expensive to thwart all the charges and his parents would have to sell their home | Jul 23 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, based on what larry lessig had said | Jul 23 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | lawyers avail themselves to the rich by making the prpocess more expensive | Jul 23 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and thus favourable to the rich | Jul 23 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | faik daniel p did all the work on his won and it was a LOT of work | Jul 23 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | like 500-page PDF | Jul 23 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | bill has held all the "blue chips" since the late 90s or early 2000s | Jul 23 17:13 |
| Techrights-sec2 | probably | Jul 23 17:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | mit wrote a self-arse-covering report both for itself/bill and for itself/jstor | Jul 23 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | "report" | Jul 23 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | another INDUSTRY | Jul 23 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | "try to seem professional and objective" | Jul 23 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | "shut up, you are being paid" -van der beld on OOXML at ECMA | Jul 23 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> NHS Summer Figures Compared (COVID-19 in 2020, 2021, and 2022) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/23/apples-to-apples/ | Jul 23 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » NHS Summer Figures Compared (COVID-19 in 2020, 2021, and 2022) | Jul 23 17:25 | |
| schestowitz-TR | turns out it's even more profound then I thought | Jul 23 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | see? covid-19 became benign | Jul 23 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | now go to the pub | Jul 23 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can't save our grandparents | Jul 23 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | they got "products'... those products are 99.99% effective because it's no longer in the news | Jul 23 17:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 17:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :( | Jul 23 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | "There's so much bad stuff going on in the world right now. Apart from war (in Ukraine and other parts of the world) and pandemic (COVID19), there's looming and increasingly unavoidable planetary catastrophe incoming anyway." gemini://luka.smol.pub/1658588727 | Jul 23 17:31 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 17:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | added to Planet 10 mins ago | Jul 23 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will post Daily Links soon | Jul 23 17:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | reading | Jul 23 17:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 17:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | click OK ok cookies, ignore ads, don't click on the tits in the sidebar | Jul 23 17:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | no mwtter "you'll never guess what happened next.." | Jul 23 17:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | at are the barriers to open culture? Here’s what the CC community has to say - Creative Commons | Jul 23 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Lack of knowledge ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/floridas-repressive-laws-are-exacerbating-a-growing-national-teacher-sh | Jul 23 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Florida's Repressive Laws Are Exacerbating a Growing National Teacher Shortage | Jul 23 17:40 | |
| schestowitz-TR | https://truthout.org/articles/floridas-repressive-laws-are-exacerbating-a-growing-national-teacher-shortage/ | Jul 23 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Social control media is shit. The public realises this. More and more over time. TechDirt pushes back. No idea why this insistence... ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/22/polling-the-public-about-social-media-policies-turns-up-nothing-particularly-useful/ | Source: Techdirt | Jul 23 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Polling The Public About Social Media Policies Turns Up Nothing Particularly Useful | Techdirt | Jul 23 17:54 | |
| schestowitz-TR | "Pregnant People"... what people get pregnant? ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/right-to-travel-abortion/ | Source: The Nation | Jul 23 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | Could GOP States Really Stop Pregnant People From Traveling to Get Abortions? | The Nation | Jul 23 18:05 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | "people with dicks" | Jul 23 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is the sort of thing creeping into sites like The Nation | Jul 23 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | and sometimes Common Dreams | Jul 23 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik, not CounterPunch | Jul 23 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | that I noticed | Jul 23 18:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 23 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yep | Jul 23 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and many places | Jul 23 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | as far as I can tell it's all about derailing the discussions and opening up | Jul 23 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | opportunities for social control media mobs to brigade the targeted individuals | Jul 23 18:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | "mammals with trunks" | Jul 23 18:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "Watering the garden is important to do regularly if you want your plants to thrive." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/07/22/watering-the-garden-with-a-solar-powered-system/ | Source: Hackaday | Jul 23 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Watering The Garden With A Solar-Powered System | Hackaday | Jul 23 18:16 | |
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