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Techrights-secRemember that Lunduke and others have commented that putting the string "Linux"Sep 25 07:07
Techrights-secin the video title gets it demonetized, at least initially.  The status canSep 25 07:07
Techrights-secbe restored after a small fight, but by then the peak has past and thereSep 25 07:07
Techrights-secwill be only a trickle of views left for that video.  Most videos get all Sep 25 07:07
Techrights-sectheir views at the beginning, so this tactic of Google is a way to eliminateSep 25 07:07
Techrights-secproduction of "Linux" videos.  There used to be other sites which were alwaysSep 25 07:07
Techrights-secfighting demonetization, though I cannot recall which companies.  For exampleSep 25 07:07
Techrights-secthe original GNUheter site always had problem with its ad revenue and the Sep 25 07:07
Techrights-secad vendor usually refused to pay and never paid what was owed, claimingSep 25 07:07
Techrights-secfalse stats.  Sep 25 07:07
Techrights-secSo it's not just against the channels but against all coverage of Linux or GNUSep 25 07:07
Techrights-secanywhere.Sep 25 07:07
Techrights-sechttps://odysee.com/@switchedtolinux:0/wth-youtube-queen-wiciwici-may-be-after:2Sep 25 07:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | WTH YouTube? | Queen Wiciwici may be after me again!Sep 25 07:07
schestowitz-TRgmSep 25 07:13
schestowitz-TRi recorded 2 videos and went to sleep while they processSep 25 07:13
schestowitz-TRI will finish the process shortlySep 25 07:13
schestowitz-TRwill quote your explanationSep 25 07:13
schestowitz-TRI had mentioned something to that effect in the longer (45 min) videoSep 25 07:13
schestowitz-TRwhich will give another example (dr. campbell)Sep 25 07:13
schestowitz-TRyesterday did not go as planned, i got like a dozen emails and calls from the scammed friendSep 25 07:13
schestowitz-TRdraftSep 25 08:21
Techrights-seccheckingSep 25 08:21
Techrights-secGMail ignores the existence of Thunderbird:Sep 25 08:26
Techrights-sechttps://support.google.com/a/answer/9003945?hl=enSep 25 08:26
Techrights-secand mainly only works with OAuth-emcumbered softwareSep 25 08:26
Techrights-sechttps://support.google.com/a/answer/7281227Sep 25 08:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-support.google.com | Set up Gmail with a third-party email client - Google Workspace Admin HelpSep 25 08:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-support.google.com | Control which third-party & internal apps access Google Workspace data - Google Workspace Admin HelpSep 25 08:26
Techrights-sec"As of May 30, 2022, Google no longer allows Less secure apps [sic] access for Gmail accounts, thus OAuth is required. If you are using Google supplied appSep 25 08:28
Techrights-sec passwords, Thunderbird version 91.8.0 and newer will make that conversion for you. Further, Gmail accounts do not work with Thunderbird 31 and older becauSep 25 08:28
Techrights-secse they do not support Google's OAuth (implemented in bug 849540)."Sep 25 08:28
Techrights-sechttps://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmailSep 25 08:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-support.mozilla.org | Thunderbird and Gmail | Thunderbird HelpSep 25 08:28
schestowitz-TRthanks, I've incorporated all the aboive poinsSep 25 08:42
schestowitz-TRgot massive distracted by troll incident in ircSep 25 08:42
schestowitz-TRi should look away moreSep 25 08:42
schestowitz-TRalso lost my train of thought and forgot some point that I had planned to add to the textSep 25 08:42
schestowitz-TRneed to slow down and not multitask with ircSep 25 08:42
schestowitz-TRi need to sit down and think how to better manage the time; maybe I'll take a walk again later, that was a lot of fun...Sep 25 08:42
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schestowitz-TRmay i suggest, a la "ota",Sep 25 08:47
schestowitz-TRwe use some tag for topics to coverSep 25 08:47
schestowitz-TRthen I can scan the irc logs for that tag to see the topicsSep 25 08:47
schestowitz-TRe.g. [topic]Sep 25 08:47
schestowitz-TRso that acts as a market fow when I'm done with rss feedsSep 25 08:47
schestowitz-TR[topic] Why Canonical is Not a Friend of GNU/Linux Freedom and Mentioning WSL/systemd Helps WindowsSep 25 08:47
schestowitz-TR[topic] Microsoft Is Vanishing From NetcraftSep 25 08:47
schestowitz-TR[topic] Kristall in KDE NeonSep 25 08:48
schestowitz-TR[topic] Separating Techrights IRC Channel From Non-Tech-Related PoliticsSep 25 08:48
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Techrights-secokSep 25 08:57
schestowitz-TRwill record 'in bulk' laterSep 25 08:59
schestowitz-TRit's a lot fasterSep 25 08:59
schestowitz-TRand they can be shortSep 25 08:59
schestowitz-TRmaybe at some point I will add a "playlist" file so that the processing can be done for multiple files in seriesSep 25 08:59
schestowitz-TRwithout human interventionSep 25 08:59
schestowitz-TRwhen handling multiple files things start to get confusingSep 25 08:59
schestowitz-TRas they are labeled by the data and time onlySep 25 08:59
Techrights-secokSep 25 09:01
Techrights-sec[topic] GMail not supporting standard IMAPS and instead supporting a slightly incompatible variantSep 25 09:01
schestowitz-TRi don't have enough knowledge of itSep 25 09:04
schestowitz-TRif the links you passed along earlier cover it, i can go through themSep 25 09:04
schestowitz-TRlike we did in marchSep 25 09:04
schestowitz-TRi used imap only at work and still use imap at workSep 25 09:04
schestowitz-TRfor my personal accounts I'm pop3Sep 25 09:04
schestowitz-TRand sometimes "leave on server" (do not pop)Sep 25 09:04
schestowitz-TRi spent years (job) supporting email access for uni professors hereSep 25 09:04
schestowitz-TRplus vpn, dial-up (ran bsd)...Sep 25 09:04
schestowitz-TRmostly for library accessSep 25 09:04
schestowitz-TRdigital access to journals from homeSep 25 09:04
Techrights-secPOP went out in the 1990s; IMAPS can download or leave on the serverSep 25 09:11
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Techrights-secrverSep 25 09:22
Techrights-sec Sep 25 09:22
Techrights-secIn the 1990s many (most?) universities had Kerberos + LDAP to identify     Sep 25 09:22
Techrights-secusers whether on campus or off campus and let them have access to the rightSep 25 09:22
Techrights-seclevel consistent with the rules.  I guess that was later all scrapped Sep 25 09:22
Techrights-secso that IPv4-based all-or-nothing level access could replace it.  The VPNSep 25 09:22
Techrights-secis an unnecessary redundant bug-ridden pile of crap though.  Sep 25 09:22
Techrights-secUsually the only purposes of the VPN is to siphon money out of the university'sSep 25 09:22
Techrights-secbudget and have an innocuous excuse to ban GNU/Linux desktops and clients,     Sep 25 09:22
Techrights-secFreeBSD as well.Sep 25 09:22
schestowitz-TRwe ueed ldapSep 25 09:23
schestowitz-TRfor the vpn and for dial-upSep 25 09:23
schestowitz-TRi had interfaces for ldap to check the users' accountsSep 25 09:23
schestowitz-TRi had high-level access to the full DB of the uniSep 25 09:23
schestowitz-TRthe vpn ws not there just for library access thoughSep 25 09:23
schestowitz-TRmany resources were lazily made lan-restrictedSep 25 09:23
schestowitz-TRbased on ip addressSep 25 09:23
schestowitz-TRinc. at the cs depatSep 25 09:23
schestowitz-TR*deptSep 25 09:23
schestowitz-TRepo does the sameSep 25 09:23
schestowitz-TRthey have a vpn form intranet and suchSep 25 09:23
Techrights-secKeyword: lazilySep 25 09:23
Techrights-seceuphemism for: incompetentlySep 25 09:23
Techrights-secSame for "intranet".  With proper access control, a VPN is only an expensiveSep 25 09:54
Techrights-secboondoggle and serves no purpose but to bleed coffers and to block GNU/LinuxSep 25 09:54
schestowitz-TRi think that the vpn has another purpose: spyingSep 25 09:55
schestowitz-TRthey want to log everythingSep 25 09:55
schestowitz-TRusing the middleman for packetsSep 25 09:55
schestowitz-TRspying on workersSep 25 09:55
schestowitz-TRalbeit there are workaroundsSep 25 09:55
schestowitz-TRlike using two machines or two stacks in tandemSep 25 09:55
schestowitz-TRwithout turning off and on a vpnSep 25 09:55
Techrights-secIn practice, there are very few real use-cases for VPNs, despite themSep 25 10:03
Techrights-secbeing shoehorned in everywhere (usually to block GNU/Linux)Sep 25 10:03
schestowitz-TRback then I tried to support the vpn for slackware and bsd usersSep 25 10:04
schestowitz-TRbut my boss (mark) had an attitude that was like,Sep 25 10:04
schestowitz-TRif these people can figure out how to install it (20 years ago)Sep 25 10:04
schestowitz-TRthey can probably figure out the vpnSep 25 10:04
schestowitz-TRand can compile from source, tooSep 25 10:04
Techrights-secWhereas if the authentication and authorization had happened via KerberosSep 25 10:05
Techrights-secand LDAP, both would have been supported more or less automatically.Sep 25 10:05
schestowitz-TRrememeber we did not even have firefox yetSep 25 10:11
Techrights-secYeah that was back in the Netscape daysSep 25 10:12
Techrights-secor era.  IIRC all that could be done not only as a web service but /without/Sep 25 10:12
Techrights-seccookies, but time has passed and I am not sure of the details any more. Sep 25 10:12
schestowitz-TRiirc, vpn was not ued so much for journal accessSep 25 10:14
schestowitz-TRthe library had a web portalSep 25 10:14
schestowitz-TRfor journ access, downloading pdfs etc.Sep 25 10:14
schestowitz-TRi think people just needed dial-up from homeSep 25 10:14
schestowitz-TRwitgh ldapSep 25 10:14
schestowitz-TRnot to rely on ispsSep 25 10:14
schestowitz-TRthis was pre-boradband for many regionsSep 25 10:14
schestowitz-TRthe vpn came laterSep 25 10:15
schestowitz-TRfor some faculties that mistook vpn for 'security'Sep 25 10:15
Techrights-secThere were strong sales teams pushing VPNs combined with managers seeing Sep 25 10:15
Techrights-secthem as a stealth method of blocking GNU/Linux + BSD plus, I suspect, kickbacksSep 25 10:15
schestowitz-TRthe market share or userbase of any kind of linux was a lot smaller back then, but enjoyed momentumSep 25 10:16
schestowitz-TRone was to slow down momentum was to fulful the prophecy of  "it's too hard"Sep 25 10:16
schestowitz-TRand x not supported.Sep 25 10:16
schestowitz-TRe.g. x=gamesSep 25 10:16
Techrights-secNot entirely, it was threatening to grow on the desktop overall and wasSep 25 10:17
Techrights-secbecoming popular at universities.  :/Sep 25 10:17
Techrights-secThe lack of game support was and probably still is cited by the business   Sep 25 10:17
Techrights-seccommunity as a reason for not using GNU/Linux at work.  WTF??  Sep 25 10:17
Techrights-secBack when /. was still relevant and independent, there was a huge attempt atSep 25 10:24
Techrights-secgetting Adobe to port Photoshop.  The company responded poorly and doubled downSep 25 10:24
Techrights-secon avoiding the platform.Sep 25 10:24
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schestowitz-TRsource, mjg59_?Sep 25 10:44
Techrights-secSELF was under heavy attack for its successful progressive work in "inclusivity"Sep 25 10:44
Techrights-secThey use a blind review process, unlike the other conferences.Sep 25 10:44
Techrights-secI hope ESR is ok soon but that is a serious health issue.  Can that be verifiedSep 25 10:44
Techrights-secfrom a reliable source and not just a rumor?Sep 25 10:44
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "There has been an unprecedented rush of people canceling their subscriptions to this blog the last five days." ☛ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/ | Source: Craig MurraySep 25 10:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.craigmurray.org.uk | I Am Puzzled - Craig MurraySep 25 10:49
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "Could be people are struggling with providing for themselves at the moment; could also be a hacker. Is there any way you can check this?" https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/Sep 25 10:49
schestowitz-TR "It seems the only way to subscribe to this blog is via PayPal which is currently out of favour because of its censorship of free-speech organisations. I’m surprised they haven’t got round to cutting off this site." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/Sep 25 10:50
mjg59_schestowitz-TR: https://twitter.com/mtaht/status/1554203297891827712 - Dave Taht knows esr wellSep 25 10:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mtaht: @realsporky @mjg59 He is recovering from stomach cancer.Sep 25 10:51
schestowitz-TR craig murray: "Good point. Certainly people continually find they have unfollowed me on twitter." Happened to Wikileaks and others too. Social control media can not only censor but also hide and break links between nodes. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/comment-page-1/#commentsSep 25 10:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.craigmurray.org.uk | I Am Puzzled - Craig MurraySep 25 10:53
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Techrights-secackSep 25 11:15
Techrights-secackSep 25 11:15
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schestowitz-TRlasagna finished, that was fastSep 25 11:47
schestowitz-TRjust got off the phone, long callSep 25 11:47
schestowitz-TRand yes, twitter and other such crap is a very unreliable and low s/n "outlet"Sep 25 11:47
schestowitz-TR"outlet" is the right termSep 25 11:47
schestowitz-TRgoes well with "shitter"Sep 25 11:47
schestowitz-TRgonna try to clean up feeds etc. and later record 4-5 topicsSep 25 11:47
Techrights-secackSep 25 11:53
schestowitz-TRSam Varghese wasting his time doing these puff pieces :/ https://itwire.com/mobile-devices/review-oppo-reno8-pro-5g-lives-life-in-the-fast-charging-lane.htmlSep 25 11:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Review: Oppo Reno8 Pro 5G lives life in the fast-charging laneSep 25 11:59
Techrights-secLikely required by his managersSep 25 12:01
schestowitz-TRif I added a sentence, that would be itSep 25 12:01
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schestowitz-TRcops and authorities useless, as usualSep 25 14:34
schestowitz-TRunless you are billgSep 25 14:34
schestowitz-TRthen they attack the critics, not the criminalsSep 25 14:34
schestowitz-TRno, microsoft is the victim of its own platform being used for fraudSep 25 14:35
schestowitz-TRI once called the police about days-long ddos attackSep 25 14:46
schestowitz-TR"it was like talking to a deaf person" -Lavros about Liz TrumpSep 25 14:46
schestowitz-TR*LavrovSep 25 14:46
schestowitz-TR40+ "reports" in michael west this past week... from AAP (AP)Sep 25 15:01
schestowitz-TRI came for the "Independent journalism"Sep 25 15:01
Techrights-secackSep 25 15:01
Techrights-secHe has fully outsourced his site thenSep 25 15:01
schestowitz-TRnot fully, but it needs filteringSep 25 15:01
Techrights-secIt'd be great if he had a separate Atom or RSS feed for /just/ his work whichSep 25 15:18
Techrights-secleaves out the newsfeed junk.Sep 25 15:18
schestowitz-TRyes, you probably understand and can relate to why I take issues with this approachSep 25 15:19
schestowitz-TRit's like contamination of motivationsSep 25 15:19
schestowitz-TRde-purifying the independence and moreover this means that any time I link to his site I boost all "that other stuff"Sep 25 15:19
Techrights-secyesSep 25 15:19
schestowitz-TR"that other stuff"Sep 25 15:20
schestowitz-TRe.g.Sep 25 15:20
schestowitz-TR1) the economy is good newsSep 25 15:20
schestowitz-TR2) our great leaders do wonderful jobSep 25 15:20
schestowitz-TR3) cat found, very very important to know!!Sep 25 15:20
Techrights-sec:/Sep 25 16:26
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schestowitz-TR0/Sep 25 19:25
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> British Government Stops Properly Reporting How Many COVID-19 Patients Are Admitted to Hospital and Die (as Winter Approaches and Numbers Already Goes Up) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/25/no-data-no-problems/Sep 25 20:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » British Government Stops Properly Reporting How Many COVID-19 Patients Are Admitted to Hospital and Die (as Winter Approaches and Numbers Already Goes Up)Sep 25 20:08
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