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| schestowitz-TR | I am so baffled. The HDMI-connected screens are such a mystery sometimes; I had to reboot one machine after | Apr 26 06:57 |
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| schestowitz-TR | 31 days. It's not my main machine. I cannot even EXPLAIN the PATTERN of when, how, why the screen (external) | Apr 26 06:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | would come on or not come on... shuffled around many displays. | Apr 26 06:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | Riddle me this... those DRM-friendly digital ports do NOT work the same way as the old ones... and as far | Apr 26 06:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I can tell they are very complex. ame for sound output. It's very "touch and go"... | Apr 26 06:57 |
| Techrights-sec | Is the cable DRM-ed, too, then if so that would mean that it has a small | Apr 26 06:57 |
| Techrights-sec | computer or maybe microcontroller in it which can be badly programmed | Apr 26 06:57 |
| Techrights-sec | and lock up periodically | Apr 26 06:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | This is the thing, it seems to have a "state" to it... like it can get "confused" | Apr 26 06:58 |
| Techrights-sec | Can that state be reset by unplugging both ends of the cable? | Apr 26 06:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't know, but I am GUESSING the specs are proprietary | Apr 26 06:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | "open" only if you join some consortium | Apr 26 06:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think BT and Wi-Fi are like that | Apr 26 06:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe for NDAs etc | Apr 26 06:59 |
| Techrights-sec | openwashing as per usual in that industry | Apr 26 06:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | Either way, I am back to the same arrangement I had before, but I wasted more than 30 minutes getting there | Apr 26 07:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | Now I try to OVER-compensate | Apr 26 07:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | e.g. by finding some other perceived "improvements" | Apr 26 07:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reckon 1 hour a week, on average, improving one's workflow is worth it if it is 1% of one's | Apr 26 07:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | weekly "computer time" | Apr 26 07:01 |
| Techrights-sec | How new is that monitor? | Apr 26 07:03 |
| Techrights-sec | Apr 26 07:03 | |
| Techrights-sec | Do either that monitor or the cable have HDCP style DRM? | Apr 26 07:03 |
| Techrights-sec | Hmm. Then there should be no DRM in those. | Apr 26 07:03 |
| Techrights-sec | HDCP -> Pluton -> TPM -> Restricted boot -> UEFI | Apr 26 07:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | These monitors are all quite old | Apr 26 07:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | Maybe except the one a friend gave me, might be from 2019 and VERY heavy | Apr 26 07:03 |
| Techrights-sec | These monitors are all quite old | Apr 26 07:04 |
| Techrights-sec | Maybe except the one a friend gave me, might be from 2019 and VERY heavy | Apr 26 07:04 |
| Techrights-sec | HDCP -> Pluton -> TPM -> Restricted boot -> UEFI | Apr 26 07:04 |
| Techrights-sec | Once the chain is forged to completion for "frivilous" data such as audio and | Apr 26 07:04 |
| Techrights-sec | video then real file formats used for real work will get dragged into | Apr 26 07:04 |
| Techrights-sec | it and fettered. | Apr 26 07:04 |
| Techrights-sec | yes HDMI does sound too; though the speakers are usually terrible quality on | Apr 26 07:06 |
| Techrights-sec | the monitors | Apr 26 07:06 |
| Techrights-sec | It is certainly confusing th efirst time it occurs | Apr 26 07:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | You do of course know about USBx and HDMI with audio | Apr 26 07:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was VERY confused weeks ago when my source came to the monitor without me connecting it | Apr 26 07:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | as the monitors do have standard "jack" too | Apr 26 07:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but kde neon tried to pass my sound via HDMI, IIRC by default | Apr 26 07:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | which caused a temporary WTF moment | Apr 26 07:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | years ago you did very important work studying kernel .git files for work towards DRM | Apr 26 07:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think that, by design, this is hard a subject and they don't want people to | Apr 26 07:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | understand what's going on and then explain it | Apr 26 07:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of this happens in the shadows and we do not have their presentation slides | Apr 26 07:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I forgot the name of the NZ researcher (Guttenberg?) who in the Vista days spoke | Apr 26 07:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | out about what the DRM grand plan might be | Apr 26 07:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | back around 16 years ago | Apr 26 07:12 |
| Techrights-sec | part of keeping the dirtywork out of side involves keeping what's left | Apr 26 07:12 |
| Techrights-sec | of the press weak and distracted with "tweets" | Apr 26 07:12 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-074.pdf | Apr 26 07:12 |
| Techrights-sec | ? | Apr 26 07:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will quit using Twitter. (26%, 12 Votes); I will continue to use Twitter, but I don't like it. (28%, 13 Votes); I use Twitter and I don't care one way or the other. (11%, 5 votes) https://fossforce.com/2022/04/take-our-poll-on-elon-musks-twitter-deal/ | Apr 26 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fossforce.com | Take Our Poll on Elon Musk's Twitter Deal - FOSS Force | Apr 26 07:34 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html | Apr 26 07:34 |
| Techrights-sec | ?? | Apr 26 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cs.auckland.ac.nz | A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection | Apr 26 07:34 | |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, this is the one | Apr 26 07:34 |
| Techrights-sec | https://web.archive.org/web/20060813140818/http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19100040 | Apr 26 07:39 |
| Techrights-sec | 8 | Apr 26 07:39 |
| Techrights-sec | https://web.archive.org/web/20060822100511/http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19100040 | Apr 26 07:39 |
| Techrights-sec | 8 | Apr 26 07:39 |
| Techrights-sec | http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=191000408&pgno=2&queryText= | Apr 26 07:39 |
| Techrights-sec | https://web.archive.org/web/20060822100527/http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=191000408&pgno=3&queryText= | Apr 26 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | InformationWeek, serving the information needs of the Business Technology Community | Apr 26 07:39 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-InformationWeek, serving the information needs of the Business Technology Community | Apr 26 07:39 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Opinion: Apple's Copy Protection Isn't Just Bad For Consumers, It's Bad For Business - News by InformationWeek | Apr 26 07:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR | on the www/net, history vanishes fast | Apr 26 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | this benefits those who have the financial means to pick winners or losers | Apr 26 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | like who or what can financiallyu/viably stay online | Apr 26 07:40 |
| Techrights-sec | yes that is on purpose :( | Apr 26 07:40 |
| Techrights-sec | I wonder if Cory has made his own archive of past talks and articles? | Apr 26 07:46 |
| Techrights-sec | https://web.archive.org/web/20040627074939/http://www.dashes.com/anil/stuff/doctorow-drm-ms.html | Apr 26 07:46 |
| Techrights-sec | DRM is about ideology not business or technology | Apr 26 07:46 |
| Techrights-sec | Even the sites which stay online have purged their old articles several times | Apr 26 07:46 |
| Techrights-sec | by now so that not only do old links not work but the actual articles no longer | Apr 26 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Cory Doctorow: Microsoft Research DRM talk | Apr 26 07:46 | |
| Techrights-sec | exist. | Apr 26 07:46 |
| Techrights-sec | CMS changes can be compensated with Apache2's redirection engine so while | Apr 26 07:46 |
| Techrights-sec | the articles can be at a new URL, the old URL should still be able to | Apr 26 07:46 |
| Techrights-sec | redirect to the new address. It is a matter of will. The effort and cost | Apr 26 07:46 |
| Techrights-sec | in setting that up is rather low. | Apr 26 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes cms can change, sending the old articles into some abyss | Apr 26 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and links to these break | Apr 26 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | wikipedia is getting filled with 404s and Web Archive URLs in the references | Apr 26 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | you are talking like a geek, not like a manager | Apr 26 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | managers do not care about history | Apr 26 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | they like "fresh starts" | Apr 26 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and perception etc. | Apr 26 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | managers do none of the technical work or authoring | Apr 26 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | like elsevier and spinger | Apr 26 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they do not value access to material | Apr 26 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | just ways to 'monetise' alone | Apr 26 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's an issue as publishers should never be detached from people who value the actual work | Apr 26 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | code included, not just literature | Apr 26 07:49 |
| Techrights-sec | they just plain don't value either knowledge or skill, thus the worshiping of | Apr 26 07:49 |
| Techrights-sec | the ability to buff | Apr 26 07:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | one of the most upsetting thing, for a coder, is having one's work thrown out of rejected by | Apr 26 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | a manager who neither understands the work nor cares for the worker | Apr 26 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is one sure way to get the talented staff to resign | Apr 26 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | in our company, our ability to recruit peoople is not zero or negative | Apr 26 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless we want seat fillers who cannot do anything at all | Apr 26 07:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | we're a circus operation | Apr 26 07:51 |
| Techrights-sec | yes removal of talent is a goal, the untalented know they are in over their | Apr 26 07:52 |
| Techrights-sec | heads and then have 100% loyalty to the manager because they know they can | Apr 26 07:52 |
| Techrights-sec | be fired for cause at any second and keep their paycheck only at the whim | Apr 26 07:52 |
| Techrights-sec | of th emanager in question | Apr 26 07:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | In our case, SarinGas(TM) did the most damage | Apr 26 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not to worry, it's not like she cared | Apr 26 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and nw, IMHO, it's too late to undo the damage | Apr 26 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | the remaining inertia is giving up on principles | Apr 26 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | using PAST reputation and ride it for a few more years | Apr 26 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | while taking slime as "clients"... | Apr 26 07:54 |
| Techrights-sec | sounds like a terminal stage MBA infection | Apr 26 07:54 |
| *teucer has quit (Quit: leaving) | Apr 26 07:56 | |
| schestowitz-TR | not even an MBA | Apr 26 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | you are grosssly over-valuing [sic] | Apr 26 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | The SartisGas | Apr 26 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | *Sarin | Apr 26 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and TheLiar (R) is a bit of a laughing stock too | Apr 26 07:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just for the lies but a lack of technical understanding | Apr 26 07:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | mostly imposer, pretending | Apr 26 07:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I came for the show | Apr 26 07:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I stay for the popcorn (and easy salary; they cannot afford to lose us) | Apr 26 07:57 |
| Techrights-sec | yes that MBA-type of thought, whether occuring in a certified MBA or just | Apr 26 07:57 |
| Techrights-sec | a wannabee, worships bluffing and eschews either skill or knowledge seeing | Apr 26 07:57 |
| Techrights-sec | either or both as a threat to their bluff | Apr 26 07:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | she already one defunct institution behind here | Apr 26 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | as secretary or something in Open Source Consortium (UK) | Apr 26 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | (no, she never uses Open Source...) | Apr 26 07:58 |
| Techrights-sec | "high pay easy work short hours close to home" | Apr 26 07:59 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Apr 26 07:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am not sure what you are quoting and maybe some hypothetical quote rather | Apr 26 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | than a real one, but that includes 4 points, which are applicable | Apr 26 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | except "close to home" | Apr 26 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is literally home and I do not even need to move between desks | Apr 26 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | nor change my workflows | Apr 26 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am on shift at the moment | Apr 26 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne has 2 computers upstaits helping with it, too | Apr 26 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | give a person 12 years and the job finds a way to do itself | Apr 26 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | a paraphrase of a taiwanese saying about the ideal job | Apr 26 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | Taiwan has very hard-working people | Apr 26 08:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they imports labourers and outsource to mainland China for some parts | Apr 26 08:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | Rianne lived in Taiwan for some months | Apr 26 08:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | Unless her boyfriend died in a motor accident | Apr 26 08:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | She even had a Twaiwanese name | Apr 26 08:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | Taiwan is, to me, like a "lesser Japan" | Apr 26 08:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and work ethics might be similar too | Apr 26 08:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they are not ethnically the same | Apr 26 08:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | "If you’re a 3D printer user you’re probably familiar with that dreaded feeling of returning to your printer" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/04/25/machine-vision-helps-you-terminate-failing-3d-print-jobs/ | Source: Hackaday | Apr 26 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Machine Vision Helps You Terminate Failing 3D Print Jobs | Hackaday | Apr 26 08:09 | |
| schestowitz-TR | -TechrightsS | Apr 26 08:09 |
| Techrights-sec | many point a camera at their printer and live stream to monitor progress | Apr 26 08:27 |
| Techrights-sec | or disaster | Apr 26 08:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | here is the thing | Apr 26 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am one person | Apr 26 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | one of many | Apr 26 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | people have different needs | Apr 26 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | but how would I ever justify the purchase price of such a device | Apr 26 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | given how little of practical value I can print | Apr 26 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and how much time it would take to learn to do it, then get files, than actually do it | Apr 26 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | then replenish supplies of material | Apr 26 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and possibly repair | Apr 26 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3-d printing is good | Apr 26 08:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's more expensive than your own lawn mower | Apr 26 08:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and seem to be a niche foir creative types | Apr 26 08:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | otherwise, in a society and economy og "fashionable consumption" | Apr 26 08:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it seems to have become another "hgome toy" | Apr 26 08:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | one that you get, use for while, have a little fun with | Apr 26 08:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | get bored of, and then just add to some inventory | Apr 26 08:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | 10 AD: live, eat, sleep, fuck, die | Apr 26 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2010: live, buy, do exams, polish resume, work, repeat 10 times (work, resume), consume carsx10, | Apr 26 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | buy 3dprinting, buy second car, die | Apr 26 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | (there is no "eat" "sleep" or "fuck"... not time for these things, and god forbid any cooking gets | Apr 26 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | done, that's a "Waste of time...") | Apr 26 08:37 |
| Techrights-sec | I see that the future of 3D printing is probably not so much individual | Apr 26 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec | hobbyists but more that of professional shops with the occasional makerspace | Apr 26 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec | both of which will have a team of skilled an experienced people on hand | Apr 26 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec | to make sure that less of a mess is made. The big news IMHO is the | Apr 26 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec | metal printing with sintering. However as mentioned before, who knows | Apr 26 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec | what patents are holding the field back at the moment. The cool stuff | Apr 26 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec | we see now is from the 1990s and only just now sloughing off the patent | Apr 26 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec | restrictions which held back innovation. | Apr 26 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think energy requirement for some of these are "industrial-grade" | Apr 26 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I am not too sure | Apr 26 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | either way, pushing into homes things that would economically be shared is the goal of wasteful, | Apr 26 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | earth-shattering industries | Apr 26 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | such as "home cinemas" to be used by, at most, 2 people | Apr 26 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but get used to brag to a guest who might come once a year | Apr 26 08:41 |
| Techrights-sec | Some. Especially the metal. | Apr 26 08:42 |
| Techrights-sec | I have been considering a laser cutter for a long time but that is off | Apr 26 08:42 |
| Techrights-sec | the list now | Apr 26 08:42 |
| Techrights-sec | Given the state of backdoors in the "smart" tvs, I would say it is faster, cheaper, morefunctional, and a lot safer | Apr 26 08:42 |
| Techrights-sec | to run Kodi or something like that | Apr 26 08:42 |
| Techrights-sec | attached to a nice monitor | Apr 26 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | the purpose of very large displays is to enable many people to sit around staring at the same display | Apr 26 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | this can be good in meetings with a table full of peopple | Apr 26 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the problem is that Wasteful Consumption Corp. made it seem like homes too needs these | Apr 26 08:46 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes there are 72" or some bullshit for sale these days | Apr 26 08:52 |
| Techrights-sec | I read that some "televisions" won't work until you've logged them in via GOogle | Apr 26 08:52 |
| Techrights-sec | too | Apr 26 08:52 |
| Techrights-sec | but haven't confirmed that yet | Apr 26 08:52 |
| Techrights-sec | Most sales these days I would guess count as consumption and by that I mean | Apr 26 08:52 |
| Techrights-sec | wasteful, unnecessary consumption. | Apr 26 08:52 |
| Techrights-sec | Pohl explored that a bit once: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midas_World | Apr 26 08:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Midas World - Wikipedia | Apr 26 08:52 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I don not mind OTHER people knocking THEMSELVES out | Apr 26 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | but their lifestuyles contribute to environmental and economic issues for the rest of us, too | Apr 26 08:52 |
| Techrights-sec | definitely | Apr 26 08:57 |
| Techrights-sec | the worst is when the adverse effects can be considered "externalities" by | Apr 26 09:05 |
| Techrights-sec | the perpetrators | Apr 26 09:05 |
| Techrights-sec | I haven't looked at RSS yet today :( | Apr 26 09:05 |
| Techrights-sec | There's still interesting stuff each time but it's a smaller and smaller | Apr 26 09:05 |
| Techrights-sec | proportion of the total | Apr 26 09:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | i may be away for an hour, could use some video and article ideas for later | Apr 26 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | cleaned all the links except quiterss | Apr 26 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | i took a shallow look | Apr 26 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | it looked like howtos mostly | Apr 26 09:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | and dreary | Apr 26 09:07 |
| Techrights-sec | there is lots of shallow coverage of the Assange extradition, the large | Apr 26 09:23 |
| Techrights-sec | number of articles is surprising but so is the complete lack of depth; | Apr 26 09:23 |
| Techrights-sec | most don't even give a background of Wikileaks or especially "Collateral Murder" | Apr 26 09:23 |
| Techrights-sec | a few still parrot lies about Sweden | Apr 26 09:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | better to have good coverage in smallm quantities than lots of low-quality coverage (quantity) | Apr 26 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it helps drown out the former | Apr 26 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | the EPO issues many misleading pieces about "privacy" and "quality" in hopes of people not finding out | Apr 26 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | what EPO examiners are saying | Apr 26 09:26 |
| Techrights-sec | The Digital Services Act has gotten little to no ccoverage in the press | Apr 26 09:26 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm sure the point of flooding the mews with shallow coverage is to | Apr 26 09:26 |
| Techrights-sec | wipe it from the minds of the public | Apr 26 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I noticed the same. Cory Doctorow did a lot of rallying along with others a few years ago. EFF, this time, | Apr 26 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | around, just did one blog post on DSA and that's it | Apr 26 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | the post it did about Musk Social made me lol | Apr 26 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | EFF: we also support "modern" crap. And MACS! | Apr 26 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | Maybe they hope Musk will be their next Mark Cuban, a sugar daddy | Apr 26 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | TechDirt also wrote some total trash, but then again it took Koch money and it seems to oppose | Apr 26 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | regulation | Apr 26 09:28 |
| Techrights-sec | It was right up the EFF's alley but they went out of their way to drop the | Apr 26 09:29 |
| Techrights-sec | ball there. | Apr 26 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | EFF is Mozilla sans corporate formalities | Apr 26 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | Mozilla keeps spamming me via Email now | Apr 26 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I never got spam from Mozilla | Apr 26 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | And it's BS lobbying about "HEY HI" | Apr 26 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | Nothing to do with WWW tech | Apr 26 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | Mozilla is a joke to me, but I still use some of the stuff they made for 20 years almost | Apr 26 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | bbl | Apr 26 09:34 |
| Techrights-sec | Mozilla's harm to the market by taking Google's money and subsequently | Apr 26 09:34 |
| Techrights-sec | dropping independent direction is no joke | Apr 26 09:34 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 09:34 |
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| schestowitz-TR | OTA | Apr 26 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | Gotr some good material | Apr 26 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | OTA | Apr 26 13:58 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 13:58 |
| Techrights-sec | excellent | Apr 26 13:58 |
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| schestowitz-TR | ack | Apr 26 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | CSS or CSC ? | Apr 26 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | s/the CSS said/the CSC said/ | Apr 26 15:26 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 15:26 |
| Techrights-sec | CSS or CSC ? | Apr 26 15:26 |
| Techrights-sec | s/the CSS said/the CSC said/ | Apr 26 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | drafgt | Apr 26 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | this covers a lot of stuff we recently spoke about | Apr 26 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. my employer | Apr 26 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the video is very long but not repetitive | Apr 26 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I take advantage to explaint to staff some of the world elements of the syetem | Apr 26 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | like James Gosling and co doing contests to see who sneaks in the dumbest patents | Apr 26 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm correcting the typos. well spotted. the video is long and may take more than an hour more to be ready. | Apr 26 15:27 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec | excellent | Apr 26 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec | the lack of competition in coverage is both good and bad, I guess it can be | Apr 26 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec | leveraged for good effect | Apr 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | Our potential to infleucne affairds and direction at the EPO is huge | Apr 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence it is a priority | Apr 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | because we have direct contact with a lot of staff through the Web siute | Apr 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't even read their "own" site, epo.org | Apr 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we don't have much "competition" | Apr 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | some leaks show that higf-level management mentions us a lot | Apr 26 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | scared of us | Apr 26 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec | upper management needs to be out on their ear collectively | Apr 26 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, but by what /kind/ of process would that come about | Apr 26 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | rarely do you heard about WHOLE management teams (high salary, no tax) | Apr 26 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | just resigning entirely | Apr 26 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | In EPO there are stakeholkders, not shareholders, and they | Apr 26 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | bet on patent maximalis, so they won't force a hand | Apr 26 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | Replacing Battistelli was just optics to them | Apr 26 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then they gagged any critics of the "orange one" | Apr 26 15:39 |
| Techrights-sec | well the rot, nepotism, and corruption has spread so widely and thoroughly at | Apr 26 15:40 |
| Techrights-sec | that level than just bringing in a few new people will only result in the new | Apr 26 15:40 |
| Techrights-sec | people quitting, getting ground down, or corrupted themselves. A house | Apr 26 15:40 |
| Techrights-sec | cleaning is needed. Anythiung less is just rearranging the deck chairs. | Apr 26 15:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | if it was a political party, it would collapse | Apr 26 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it is now | Apr 26 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | if it was a company | Apr 26 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would fail | Apr 26 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it is not a company | Apr 26 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is a MONOPOLY | Apr 26 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | a rather uninque scenario | Apr 26 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | PLUS, diplomatic immunity | Apr 26 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | short of the whole EU or the occupation collapsing, it's hard to envision a resolution | Apr 26 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | or WHO would impose it on the EPOO | Apr 26 15:42 |
| Techrights-sec | yes and as a monopoly it is more akin to a utility than a business | Apr 26 15:43 |
| Techrights-sec | it would be a major disservice and wrongdoing to try to run it as a for-profit | Apr 26 15:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | they like to pretend that the "competition" is other countries or continents | Apr 26 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it is corporate global cartel | Apr 26 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | with WIPO/WTO and others as a shallow umbrrella | Apr 26 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | the shadow cast upon us people by the true masters, the corporationas dna oligarchs | Apr 26 15:44 |
| Techrights-sec | that sounds more like malfeasance | Apr 26 15:45 |
| Techrights-sec | they are ostensibly there to unifiy not churn | Apr 26 15:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is a global problem | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | but in EPO it's either a lot worse or a lot more visible | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | owing to strong union culture in northern Europe | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | (relative to the US; I don't have to tell you about USPTO patent quality | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and corporate shuffle in leadership | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | kappos (ibm) -> lee (gulag, not bezoszon/aws) -> iancu (trolls) -> Microsoft Vidal | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember: epo is not european | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's INTERNATIONAL ORG | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we are dealing with anINTERNATIONAL problem | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and through the EPO we expose corruption in connected orgs too | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. WIPO with Gurry (AU) and some shitty countries near Putin | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | workers are smart and well-educated enough to 'feel' or to know | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are not there for science but for businesses and for corporate | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | lawyers | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have access to millions of documents, inc. private stuff | Apr 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | we just need to ensure there is a secure conduit for transparency | Apr 26 15:51 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 15:52 |
| Techrights-sec | no it is not and that is a confounding problem | Apr 26 15:52 |
| Techrights-sec | it falls through the cracks and has so far escaped accountability | Apr 26 15:52 |
| Techrights-sec | the currentr state of European higher education (or lack thereof) is a related | Apr 26 15:52 |
| Techrights-sec | problem; and there is far worse to come but since the problm is in the pipe | Apr 26 15:52 |
| Techrights-sec | it is ignored; the "univeristies" are decreasingly able to provide education | Apr 26 15:52 |
| Techrights-sec | and failing that not even training, becoming just a charade which is the way | Apr 26 15:52 |
| Techrights-sec | those large multinational interests like it | Apr 26 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | i sometimes wonder if there are unniversity syllabi that now include "AWS" | Apr 26 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | or similar | Apr 26 15:54 |
| Techrights-sec | orobably; there are apparently trade schools which use M$ Azure from start to | Apr 26 15:54 |
| Techrights-sec | finish in plce of actual Linux experience; Similar for AWS; | Apr 26 15:54 |
| Techrights-sec | It might be one of the few areas where | Apr 26 15:54 |
| Techrights-sec | Azure gets used at all even if it is the | Apr 26 15:54 |
| Techrights-sec | tiny minority there too | Apr 26 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | Maybe Azure has market share like Vista 11 | Apr 26 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | the surveys I see are based on a few people polled by some firm | Apr 26 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | could be Microsoft astroturfers | Apr 26 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see many AWS users at work | Apr 26 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | some rackspace, linode, etc. | Apr 26 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | azure is smaller than linode ^_^ | Apr 26 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | big... in the media. | Apr 26 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | do not. | Apr 26 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | do not! | Apr 26 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | not trust trust numbers from companies | Apr 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | all companies lie | Apr 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | some lie more | Apr 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | according to twitter my traffic/reach QUADRUPLED whilst MuskingTape was on the table discussing | Apr 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | price | Apr 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | number of "Active Users" can be "number of unique browser cookies detected by our back end this past | Apr 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | month (31 days" | Apr 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are "active" because they nevigated into a page | Apr 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they are "unique" based on their browser fingerprint | Apr 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | some use multiple browsers, let's make that count more | Apr 26 16:00 |
| Techrights-sec | yes azure is smaller than linode's smaller competitor, it is just that I have | Apr 26 16:00 |
| Techrights-sec | toalked with some "certified" students who have graduated with *NO* computer | Apr 26 16:00 |
| Techrights-sec | experience | Apr 26 16:00 |
| Techrights-sec | so they are trained to bluf and lie | Apr 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | "lying" is not lying and it is "ethical" becaue "I have mouths to feed" :-) | Apr 26 16:01 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yuppie-nuremberg%20defense | Apr 26 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: yuppie-nuremberg defense | Apr 26 16:06 | |
| schestowitz-TR | that is what we live with and must con-exist with | Apr 26 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | liars and people who buy 72-inch TVs to compensate for lack of inches somewhere else | Apr 26 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and social/class insecurity | Apr 26 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | along with people who won't wear a mask to save thousands of people | Apr 26 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have just checked the database dumpc (gunzip -t) and I've seen nothing wrong for days | Apr 26 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | hypothesis: maybe deleting a lot of old backups freed up some space and caused allocation to work better | Apr 26 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | but this theory is easy to debunk, let's wait another week | Apr 26 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am going to check COVID numbers. Mondays don't count as they unleash not YET the backlogs | Apr 26 16:10 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | NHS UK: The Dog Ate My Data, But Thousands of People Get Hospitalised With COVID-19 Each Day, Thousands Die Each Week http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/26/thousands-die-each-week/ | Apr 26 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » NHS UK: The Dog Ate My Data, But Thousands of People Get Hospitalised With COVID-19 Each Day, Thousands Die Each Week | Apr 26 16:29 | |
| schestowitz-TR | you do of course realise china now admits lockdowns | Apr 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | even in its capital (of capital punishments) | Apr 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is how I've explains to friends for over 2 years that this crisis isn't fake | Apr 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | russia and china don't just bow to western regime and plutocrats | Apr 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | so if they take it seriously, then it's serious | Apr 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | my dad must be reading junk | Apr 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | he thinks that china's shortages are maybe intentional or fake | Apr 26 16:33 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then again, we was never the shrpest tool in the box | Apr 26 16:33 |
| Techrights-sec | yes they are having lockdowns | Apr 26 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | didn't even go to college | Apr 26 16:33 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Apr 26 16:33 |
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| schestowitz-TR | fake it till you make it | Apr 26 16:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | elulate "mission accomplished" | Apr 26 16:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | *emulate | Apr 26 16:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | "thoughts and prayers" | Apr 26 16:34 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Apr 26 16:35 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 16:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am scanning bbc at the moment | Apr 26 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | to find any totally insane articles | Apr 26 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol | Apr 26 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Job losses expected.... at Covid vaccine factory" | Apr 26 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | Okk, bill, go break some more windows | Apr 26 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | or maybe makem something that works better | Apr 26 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | bill fuckin' c | Apr 26 16:37 |
| Techrights-sec | their news page is *still* broken with munged links, it has been many | Apr 26 16:38 |
| Techrights-sec | years and they have not gotten around to caring enough to notice or to hire | Apr 26 16:38 |
| Techrights-sec | anyone with the skill to fix it | Apr 26 16:38 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/26/world/asia/china-covid-beijing-shanghai.html | Apr 26 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | China’s Covid Strategy: Test 20 Million in Beijing Amid Lockdown Fears - The New York Times | Apr 26 16:38 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I hope production will slow better | Apr 26 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | it will hurt all of us, but some will be hurt more than others | Apr 26 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the heavy spenders and wasters suffer more | Apr 26 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | a war is lots of circuitry | Apr 26 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | *a car | Apr 26 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | also war | Apr 26 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | drones have computers on them | Apr 26 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | missiles also | Apr 26 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | when you shoot a rocket you basically destroy a whole computer with peripheral | Apr 26 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the military graft machine charges for one rocket like 1000 the cost of that computer | Apr 26 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | for basically a metal shell with explosives in it | Apr 26 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | monopoly pricing | Apr 26 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and graft (debt will pay; taxpayers will chase the debt) | Apr 26 16:42 |
| Techrights-sec | https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html | Apr 26 16:44 |
| Techrights-sec | https://gutenberg.ca/ebooks/butlersd-warisaracket/butlersd-warisaracket-00-h.html | Apr 26 16:44 |
| Techrights-sec | or schools or pensions or etc | Apr 26 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ratical.org | War Is A Racket, by Major General Smedley Butler, 1935 | Apr 26 16:44 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gutenberg.ca | War is a Racket by Smedley D. Butler, from Project Gutenberg Canada | Apr 26 16:44 | |
| schestowitz-TR | missiles that cost 10-20 times more than the home or luxury car they destroy | Apr 26 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | or missile that cost like a home for a homeless person | Apr 26 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the greatestcountryonearth(tm) | Apr 26 16:45 |
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| Techrights-sec | " But victory or defeat will be determined by the skill and ingenuity of our scientists." | Apr 26 16:48 |
| Techrights-sec | Thus the attack started globally on education, going on since the Reagan | Apr 26 16:48 |
| Techrights-sec | adminisitration, but not limited to the US. | Apr 26 16:48 |
| Techrights-sec | https://education.ec.europa.eu/education-levels/higher-education/higher-education-initiatives/inclusive-and-connected-higher-education/bologna-process | Apr 26 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-education.ec.europa.eu | The Bologna Process and the European Higher Education Area | European Education Area | Apr 26 16:48 | |
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| Techrights-sec | https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1474904118824229 | Apr 26 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 503 @ https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1474904118824229 ) | Apr 26 16:56 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/bologna-process-still-treading-water-say-critics | Apr 26 16:56 |
| Techrights-sec | "On the whole, European universities have sliced up traditional five-year courses like Germanys diplom into BA | Apr 26 16:56 |
| Techrights-sec | and MA degrees." | Apr 26 16:56 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/bologna-not-to-taste-of-german-critics/419845.article | Apr 26 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.timeshighereducation.com | Bologna Process still ‘treading water’, say critics | Times Higher Education (THE) | Apr 26 16:57 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.timeshighereducation.com | Bologna not to taste of German critics | Times Higher Education (THE) | Apr 26 16:57 | |
| schestowitz-TR | in german they load up academic titles e.g. professor doctor | Apr 26 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the uk they use fake titles and load these too, inc. acronyms | Apr 26 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | in spain you just give someone like a dozen names | Apr 26 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the longer your name the more "pedigree" you must have | Apr 26 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but with a chest of brass and 5 different name it's possible you | Apr 26 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | are just a boor flying planes to shag 15 year olds | Apr 26 17:00 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | epo article published | Apr 26 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | of interest/priotiryt: | Apr 26 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | sotries about high-profile people who quit twitter | Apr 26 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and groups that are collectively seen doing sw | Apr 26 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw only one such story so far | Apr 26 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the inertia needs to be there | Apr 26 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the right wingers pretend the opposite at the moment | Apr 26 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | they want to turn twitter into parler | Apr 26 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 17:45 |
| Techrights-sec | Apr 26 17:45 | |
| Techrights-sec | more so that it already has been | Apr 26 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | today we'll show the criuminals who sent the EPO toi Microsoft US | Apr 26 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | we must think of ways to maximise the effect to highlight the microsoft angle here | Apr 26 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe in Linux-centric sites | Apr 26 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not that often that our EPO excursions helpm expose microsoft crimes, too | Apr 26 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | part 4 published | Apr 26 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | typo spotting would help | Apr 26 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | or suggestions | Apr 26 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am goingf to record about it now | Apr 26 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | soon there is a super-important game across the road (real madrid) | Apr 26 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | so there will be too much noise | Apr 26 18:28 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 18:28 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Apr 26 18:28 |
| Techrights-sec | it would be useful to mention the relevance of the addresses when introducing | Apr 26 18:29 |
| Techrights-sec | the paragraph about "corporat headquarters" | Apr 26 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't know te answer this this and it'll likely emerge later on | Apr 26 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | weonly have parts 1-7 ready | Apr 26 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes you expect the EPO to start making noise and googlebomb | Apr 26 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | to distract from some "word" covered in the series | Apr 26 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | as happend last March (Microsoft "clown" migration | Apr 26 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec | perhaps the part about being a certifie M$ partner ought to be mentioned or | Apr 26 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec | at least alluded to early on as well | Apr 26 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | re Microsoft, I have the title for the video | Apr 26 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | the video will say a lot more about those aspects you've suggested | Apr 26 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure how long it will be, but text comes after recording | Apr 26 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | typically emphasising bits or adding what was missed ore forgotten in the video | Apr 26 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | OTA | Apr 26 18:32 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | (we do a lot of damage here to Microsloth, not just EPO; 2 in 1,,,) | Apr 26 18:32 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 18:32 |
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| schestowitz-TR | ota | Apr 26 19:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | done 35 mins | Apr 26 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | "Harris was fully vaccinated with the Moderna vaccine, and has since been boosted twice. " | Apr 26 19:48 |
| Techrights-sec | https://text.npr.org/1061867530 | Apr 26 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Vice President Harris has tested positive for COVID-19 | Apr 26 19:48 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 20:19 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 26 20:19 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Apr 26 20:19 |
| Techrights-sec | :/ | Apr 26 20:19 |
| Techrights-sec | M$ is never a joke | Apr 26 20:19 |
| Techrights-sec | Windoze kills | Apr 26 20:19 |
| Techrights-sec | back in a bit | Apr 26 20:19 |
| Techrights-sec | back | Apr 26 20:19 |
| Techrights-sec | (reboot due to libc and kernel updates) | Apr 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | ota | Apr 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | done 35 minsBBB | Apr 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | goal | Apr 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | so much noise | Apr 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | doors wide open | Apr 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | see the memme in drafts :-) | Apr 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | scheduled for AFTR the video | Apr 26 20:19 |
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