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| Techrights-sec2 | I think I have been able to restore the scripts from backup now | Jul 27 01:12 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | As far as I can guess, with limited knowledge about Git, it appears that | Jul 27 01:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | a lot of changes go buffered and then the rollback which was supposed to undo | Jul 27 01:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | only a single change undid a whole lot because the three acounts had somehow | Jul 27 01:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | gotten badly out of sync. | Jul 27 01:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | It was close but I am in the habit of doing incremental backups on multiple | Jul 27 01:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | media. I still don't trust git. I'm sure the software behind it is good but | Jul 27 01:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the UI leaves a lot to be desired and is very unclear, not as bad as PGP though | Jul 27 01:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am sooo relieved then | Jul 27 01:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I went to sleep earlier and saw the rants | Jul 27 01:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | worried we had lost a lot | Jul 27 01:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | took some notes, edited locally for a bit | Jul 27 01:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I stashed my sole change (irc) before pulling | Jul 27 01:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and have made further improving, integrating your version and the version that was lost to push later when things 'stabilise' | Jul 27 01:13 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 01:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | One thing to note is that image files should go into the Images directory | Jul 27 01:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | because at some point they might be processed differently and it is useful | Jul 27 01:14 |
| Techrights-sec2 | to have them away from the text files. | Jul 27 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, kaniini received the money and wants to not rely on wordpress anymopre | Jul 27 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems like a shared view that the bloat is pushing the limits | Jul 27 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | kaniini also wants to try gemini at some point | Jul 27 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | re image files, you've already replaced one with css | Jul 27 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | pending template change at our end | Jul 27 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the fanicon is tiny and you also moved it | Jul 27 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | when we migrate old pages to new some of the files in /files will need to be in the subsite too for the pages to render fully (that was a literalk shower thought | Jul 27 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | this morning) | Jul 27 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's a step further away, not a priority for now | Jul 27 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | the old DB has been hgolding up OK for almost 2 week now, loss of some old nodes notwithstanding | Jul 27 01:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | We can aim for setting up a similar system for TR after the TM one is in place | Jul 27 01:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | if that seems more useful. WordPress really is too heavy for what it claims | Jul 27 01:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | to be able to do. | Jul 27 01:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | to clarify, kaniini spoke of own blog, not ours | Jul 27 01:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | matt lee said it a decade ago | Jul 27 01:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | too much maintenance work even for a small and mostly inactive blog | Jul 27 01:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | for me, 2013 with auto-update was a turning point | Jul 27 01:18 |
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| schestowitz-TR | WordPress installations after v3 are remotely controlled by Automattic (the automatic updates), even if you're self-hosting, not using wordpress.com | Jul 27 01:20 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 01:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | even those which are ostensibly self-hosted must allow Automattic to be able | Jul 27 01:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | to login to *FTP* of all things. That adds two back doors to the bloat. | Jul 27 01:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | There are ways around it but that means no automated updates. | Jul 27 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | one must ask, | Jul 27 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | why auto-update in the first place? | Jul 27 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the answer is, bloat with many third party stuff lumped in means more critical issues | Jul 27 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's what doomed php-nuke | Jul 27 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | gets very hard to maintain all the "modules" | Jul 27 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | mitchell calles it something, then linked to a reference | Jul 27 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I forgot the name for it | Jul 27 01:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, among other disadvantages | Jul 27 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) at work part opf our job is to spot 1-days for stuff like drupal and patch | Jul 27 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) alpine linux is linux, but since many "linux" issues are systemd they go line, "ah, ok, not our problem" | Jul 27 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | *go like | Jul 27 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | fewer "moving parts" in general | Jul 27 01:25 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Jul 27 01:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | speaking of alpine, what is the way to restore the normal behavior in vi | Jul 27 01:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | so that one only presses escape once to have it acknowledged by the program | Jul 27 01:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ? | Jul 27 01:28 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I was never too fond of vi, not because I did not know how to use it but because I met nano | Jul 27 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it improved a lot over time, so I quit using vi any time I coulkd dodge it | Jul 27 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | with vi I'd sometimes make mistakes I'd not be able to undo and then q! | Jul 27 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | then try again | Jul 27 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. due to input entry modes | Jul 27 01:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | found it, it would have never been obvious through the manual pages or guides | Jul 27 01:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but :inoremap <Esc> <Esc><Esc> seems to fix it | Jul 27 01:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I find vi very practical for configuration files and for shell scripts | Jul 27 01:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and CSS but avoid it for all else | Jul 27 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I was in my 20s I took a train journey up to the north east to work on servers of to clients, newcastle and a small town nearby | Jul 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | known only for football | Jul 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and their server rack with a scren attached had only vi | Jul 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | entering the configs too several efforts | Jul 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is not even one consistent version or behaviour in vi | Jul 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and there is no room for errors in some cases, e.g. grub, netwroking (without physical access) | Jul 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was in Sunderland | Jul 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I hated having to go on trips just to fix things | Jul 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was boring and I could not do "Linux links" etc. | Jul 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a travellking slaesperson | Jul 27 01:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, though for the most part, core vi, andnot vim, is standard. At least | Jul 27 01:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the parts I use are, up until this Esc thing with Alpine. | Jul 27 01:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | A 'kvm' setup can work with GRUB. GRUB 1 was kind of an improvement over LILO | Jul 27 01:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | in some ways. GRUB 2 is a hot mess a far as I can tell. | Jul 27 01:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I'm still not sure how the three accounts got out of sync like that even | Jul 27 01:43 |
| Techrights-sec2 | though they were reporting ok. | Jul 27 01:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 01:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | took note of things to do when git is predictable again, but need to sleep soon | Jul 27 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne covers me while out of home | Jul 27 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | interaction over irc and telephone | Jul 27 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | on shoft | Jul 27 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | like I said last night, I did some weird stuff on git, | Jul 27 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. trying to edit a file directly on the server | Jul 27 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | as root | Jul 27 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not sure if that threw a spanner in the works | Jul 27 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | gn | Jul 27 01:45 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> The coin-operated SJVN is writing spammy ads now. How low he has sunk. https://www.zdnet.com/article/cloudify-partners-with-servicenow-for-business-cloud-automation/ | Jul 27 06:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Cloudify partners with ServiceNow for business cloud automation | ZDNet | Jul 27 06:25 | |
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| Techrights-sec2 | gm | Jul 27 07:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | this one is a puzzle with the CSS in that the H1 i turning up after the feed | Jul 27 07:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and fails to float to the left (or vice versa) | Jul 27 07:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/25/Programming:_KDE_coding,_Code_review_at_the_speed_of_email,_and_Rakudo_Weekly_News.shtml | Jul 27 07:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Both Chromium and Firefox show the same problem. All the other pages show up ok | Jul 27 07:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Programming: KDE coding, Code review at the speed of email, and Rakudo Weekly News | Jul 27 07:08 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok. I was thinking it would be worth a few minutes since it makes the page | Jul 27 07:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | look blank. | Jul 27 07:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | gm | Jul 27 07:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think that depends on the browser | Jul 27 07:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's the sort of issue techrights wiki has (opera, then chrome browsers) | Jul 27 07:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and in schestowitz.com too | Jul 27 07:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I sspent hours more than 10 years ago trying to solve those things | Jul 27 07:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and gave up | Jul 27 07:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, i noticed the same | Jul 27 07:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wonder if, to keep the repo "safe", I should wipe the Git-TM directory and checkout again | Jul 27 07:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think hard-reset would have the same effect | Jul 27 07:11 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | It might be a good idea to start it over. But I am not sure of the right | Jul 27 07:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | method. I'd say that starting with an empty directory might be the way to | Jul 27 07:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | go and then fill it from the existing clone(s) | Jul 27 07:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | If I understand correctly, hard reset wipes the upstream somehow. | Jul 27 07:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | from what I've read, it cancels away local changes | Jul 27 07:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Yes, but how can one tell 'local' changes from what's upstream in the real | Jul 27 07:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | repository? It seems they can diverge greatly yet still report that everything | Jul 27 07:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | is ok anyway | Jul 27 07:48 |
| schestowitz | git pull | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | remote: Enumerating objects: 52, done. | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | remote: Counting objects: 100% (52/52), done. | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | remote: Compressing objects: 100% (45/45), done. | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | remote: Total 46 (delta 19), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 0 | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Unpacking objects: 100% (46/46), done. | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | From ssh://news.tuxmachines.org:/home/git/tuxmachines.org | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | + fa5a386...5bac634 master -> origin/master (forced update) | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Auto-merging htdocs/irc.shtml | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | CONFLICT (add/add): Merge conflict in htdocs/irc.shtml | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Auto-merging htdocs/contact.shtml | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | CONFLICT (add/add): Merge conflict in htdocs/contact.shtml | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Auto-merging bin/update-and-refresh-from-db.sh | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | CONFLICT (add/add): Merge conflict in bin/update-and-refresh-from-db.sh | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Auto-merging bin/tm-generate-feed.pl | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in bin/tm-generate-feed.pl | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Auto-merging bin/refresh-site-from-db.sh | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | CONFLICT (add/add): Merge conflict in bin/refresh-site-from-db.sh | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Auto-merging bin/add-and-refresh-from-db.sh | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | CONFLICT (add/add): Merge conflict in bin/add-and-refresh-from-db.sh | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Automatic merge failed; fix conflicts and then commit the result. | Jul 27 07:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is what I got last night after you had afk'ed | Jul 27 07:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I merged htdocs/irc.shtml | Jul 27 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | with what I had done hours before, but did not push anything back | Jul 27 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot push until addressing these conflicts | Jul 27 07:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | \I looked into some of the files and they highlight conflicts | Jul 27 07:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Merges are solvable through editing. | Jul 27 07:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Checking ... | Jul 27 07:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | There should be markers in the file showing the overlapping / conflicting | Jul 27 07:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | segments and it is a matter of choosing one or combining them and then | Jul 27 07:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | deleting the markers. | Jul 27 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'd rather let HEAD override everything I have locally | Jul 27 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | without us losing the commit history | Jul 27 07:56 |
| Techrights-sec2 | then I would just rename the directory and then clone a fresh directory | Jul 27 07:57 |
| Techrights-sec2 | however I am quite ignorant of the right way to manage Git | Jul 27 07:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | if at your end pull/push work OK ATM, I'll just hard-reset at my end and then I think we're good to go | Jul 27 08:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on some page I read earlier | Jul 27 08:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, back on desk | Jul 27 08:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | will try what I found online | Jul 27 08:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | just a second, making a tarball ... ok, ready, I hope | Jul 27 08:07 |
| schestowitz | roy@vonick:~/Git-TM/tuxmachines.org/tuxmachines.org$ git reset --hard origin/master | Jul 27 08:11 |
| schestowitz | HEAD is now at bfcf50e initial commit of main index | Jul 27 08:11 |
| schestowitz | roy@vonick:~/Git-TM/tuxmachines.org/tuxmachines.org$ git pull origin master | Jul 27 08:11 |
| schestowitz | From ssh://news.tuxmachines.org:/home/git/tuxmachines.org | Jul 27 08:11 |
| schestowitz | * branch master -> FETCH_HEAD | Jul 27 08:11 |
| schestowitz | Already up to date. | Jul 27 08:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | hopefully it is from a reliable source, most tech posts aren't | Jul 27 08:12 |
| schestowitz | $ git commit irc.shtml | Jul 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | [master 64b3275] merged version | Jul 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-) | Jul 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | roy@vonick:~/Git-TM/tuxmachines.org/tuxmachines.org/htdocs$ git push | Jul 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Enumerating objects: 7, done. | Jul 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Counting objects: 100% (7/7), done. | Jul 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Delta compression using up to 4 threads | Jul 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Compressing objects: 100% (4/4), done. | Jul 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Writing objects: 100% (4/4), 958 bytes | 958.00 KiB/s, done. | Jul 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Total 4 (delta 2), reused 0 (delta 0) | Jul 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | error: unable to write file ./objects/bc/87ee66621be696bb20f0775b1be7c63e53978c: Permission denied | Jul 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | To ssh://news.tuxmachines.org:/home/git/tuxmachines.org | Jul 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | ! [remote rejected] master -> master (unable to migrate objects to permanent storage) | Jul 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://git@news.tuxmachines.org:/home/git/tuxmachines.org' | Jul 27 08:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok | Jul 27 08:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jul 27 08:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | it seems like we're a step closer now, | Jul 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | the files I have now do not have conflict | Jul 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I just want to ensure I can commit a change, the pull/push again | Jul 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that all files on your side too are up to date, nothing rolled back | Jul 27 08:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | try again | Jul 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | git push | Jul 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Enumerating objects: 7, done. | Jul 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Counting objects: 100% (7/7), done. | Jul 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Delta compression using up to 4 threads | Jul 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Compressing objects: 100% (4/4), done. | Jul 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Writing objects: 100% (4/4), 958 bytes | 958.00 KiB/s, done. | Jul 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Total 4 (delta 2), reused 0 (delta 0) | Jul 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | To ssh://news.tuxmachines.org:/home/git/tuxmachines.org | Jul 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | bfcf50e..64b3275 master -> master | Jul 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | can you pull the change OK from your side? You can see if the irc page makes sense now | Jul 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it incoroporates both versions, took me a long time to work on | Jul 27 08:20 |
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| schestowitz-TR | just did a pull again | Jul 27 08:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems a lot saner on my side/end now | Jul 27 08:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I like how you hid away the iframe | Jul 27 08:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I am far more pleased with this new version, the firse go ws a crude merge of your mockup placeholder and my copy-paste from the "old" site | Jul 27 08:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | checking the tiem stamps on files I received... some are as recently as 15 mins ago | Jul 27 08:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | extract, generate, update... | Jul 27 08:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking ... yes | Jul 27 08:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | thanks | Jul 27 08:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | m$ seems to have begun googlebombing xrandr | Jul 27 08:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've not notice that | Jul 27 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | odd... as I'm up to date on RSS feeds | Jul 27 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | with rianne on phone atm | Jul 27 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence distracted somewhat | Jul 27 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe michael larabel is portraying them as "helping" that too? | Jul 27 08:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | m$ has a new (dis-)service called xandr, which I see is close enough | Jul 27 08:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it's like when they named their proprietary format after OpenOffice.org and | Jul 27 08:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | thus hid OOo. Or when they named a version of Windows after VistA and the | Jul 27 08:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | latter, disappeared off the search engine map in a matter of days despite | Jul 27 08:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | being around for decade prior | Jul 27 08:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm sure IBM will take action ;-) | Jul 27 08:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | like it did with OhOhXML | Jul 27 08:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | IBM's reaction at the time was underwhelming even though they had profited | Jul 27 08:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | billions off of FOSS already by that point | Jul 27 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | towards trhe end they made a back room deal witgh IBM | Jul 27 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | which enr15~arged marbux | Jul 27 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he nearly sued them | Jul 27 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they meanwhile started defaming the grassroots of ODF | Jul 27 08:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 09:00 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I recall also that Apple held off as long as they could on even partial ODF | Jul 27 09:00 |
| Techrights-sec2 | support; If I understand correctly, their main productivity software suite | Jul 27 09:00 |
| Techrights-sec2 | does not read or write ODF even partially but their notepad utility did eventually but gained the ability as the same time as they added support for M$ | Jul 27 09:00 |
| Techrights-sec2 | proprietary DOCX format series | Jul 27 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | apple 'productivity' | Jul 27 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne just lost her wifi connection for no reason | Jul 27 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | in a home with a clueless "i" person a | Jul 27 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it is hard to diagnose remoately | Jul 27 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | says it suddenly rejects password after connection dropped | Jul 27 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | following a physical move from one flooor to another | Jul 27 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure if ISP change something | Jul 27 09:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but other devices are still connected as before | Jul 27 09:00 |
| Techrights-sec2 | wifi is problematic in the best of situations, in proprietary environments | Jul 27 09:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it is at least an order of magnitude harder to work with | Jul 27 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | that will certainly waste a lot more than the half an hour we both spent this morning on her connection | Jul 27 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | meanwhile I think I'll add a 10-minute poll check and git pull for TM Git, just like the TR check | Jul 27 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | it shows me up to ~4 hours of recent activity for Links and Git | Jul 27 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a notifier of sorts, with expension when commits are made | Jul 27 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it has proven worth of the time invested | Jul 27 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | it also makes you my local files are synched | Jul 27 09:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that's a rather inefficient method and loads the server, albeit a small load | Jul 27 09:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | better to work with the merge method as that's what Git's about | Jul 27 09:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | 6 git checks per hour are a lot less than the server is, overall, dealing with | Jul 27 09:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and afaik it mostly checks IDs or checkhums of branches | Jul 27 09:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | no trasmission across the network, like comparising two identical files over rsync | Jul 27 09:08 |
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| schestowitz-TR | links is just ls over the network 6 times an hour | Jul 27 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will push to git soon (TR, if that works) | Jul 27 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | marius has just responded, checking.... | Jul 27 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | multitasking with handover (colleagues) so give me time... avoiding stress from overload | Jul 27 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | still overwhelmed, but one problem doiwn: rianne is back online | Jul 27 09:31 |
| Techrights-sec2 | np | Jul 27 09:31 |
| Techrights-sec2 | busy trying to sort git here | Jul 27 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | handover at work nearly done | Jul 27 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | just to be sure, as thunderbird fucked up pgp, sending an sssh public key of marius is OK, right? | Jul 27 09:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | public key | Jul 27 09:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure what privs his account has, not that I think he would vandalise | Jul 27 09:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | i also know it's him, we even pgp-encrypt our messages to each other | Jul 27 09:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 09:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | public keys are fine, they are public info | Jul 27 09:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | private keys should not go over e-mail | Jul 27 09:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking ... | Jul 27 09:36 |
| mjg59_ | Sending a public key is fine as long as you have a mechanism to authenticate that the public key you receive is the one that was sent | Jul 27 09:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | work handover done (still a distration for me and ruins my sleep pattern, not even consistent time slots!) | Jul 27 09:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, Git TM check works, pushing to TR git now | Jul 27 09:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | pushed | Jul 27 09:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4 things done | Jul 27 09:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4 is threshold for burnout, or forgetting what was to be done | Jul 27 09:43 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it's a normal shell account but could be tuned to be more limited | Jul 27 09:43 |
| Techrights-sec2 | wait TR and TM are separate repositories! | Jul 27 09:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I know, this one does 3 checks every three minutes, showing the time of latest commit and latest Daily Links | Jul 27 09:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | if new git commits have been registered, it'll shot a coloured summary of files changed and how much | Jul 27 09:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have that on a distance monitor | Jul 27 09:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | it goes into Git@TR because two of the three checks are TR-related | Jul 27 09:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is under desktop-utils | Jul 27 09:45 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :w | Jul 27 09:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | vi terminal (wrong window) is some face with a mouth? | Jul 27 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm going to check | Jul 27 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | then get back to marius | Jul 27 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, nice | Jul 27 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | a | Jul 27 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | manual | Jul 27 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | keep a copy of that for when I give rianne a cheatsheet | Jul 27 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can see his key add added, I'll let him know | Jul 27 09:53 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 10:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there's now a copy in her home directory | Jul 27 10:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | for some reason all the home directories have the sgid bit set, is that | Jul 27 10:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | an Alpine thing? | Jul 27 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | Just caught up with all email, which is mentally exhausting | Jul 27 10:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | no email till 1am now... | Jul 27 10:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I _thin_ I caught up with everything now | Jul 27 10:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | past midnight last night there was a discussion in irc (maion channel) regarding alpine, security, wordpress... | Jul 27 10:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 10:05 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I am compacting the checker so all the checks are shown in one line, for each 10-min window | Jul 27 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I made a list of todo for tuxmachines | Jul 27 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you're not busy, some is for me to do, some I could use your help with | Jul 27 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | last/who are not in alpine, so I don't know if marius is there already, don't want to check email | Jul 27 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | throughout the day, I find it really weighs me down when I do | Jul 27 11:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I've got some errands coming up but after that will have a lot of time | Jul 27 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Marius has not logged in yet | Jul 27 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I\ll try to finish all the feeds then and then Links too | Jul 27 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | just push a change to git that embodies one liner with dates of latest remove changes | Jul 27 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and summary of charges, if any | Jul 27 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne is posting in "old" tuxmachines now, no idea why wifi stopped working and is | Jul 27 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | working again now, no rubber chicken involved | Jul 27 11:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | "The Bash command line is a great way to automate tasks." ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/7/use-bash-automate-tasks-linux | Jul 27 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-How I use Bash to automate tasks on Linux | Opensource.com | Jul 27 11:39 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 11:39 |
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| schestowitz-TR | last night I spotted a bug | Jul 27 13:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | we don't use mantis or bugzills (no need, too bloated) | Jul 27 13:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but to reproduce, update existing post | Jul 27 13:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | register the changes | Jul 27 13:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems like older content gets some "special" chars like slanted quotes manglesd | Jul 27 13:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | what I think happens is, tidy puts that in some HTML-ish form in the DB | Jul 27 13:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and when it's loaded again into nano it does not use proper encoding | Jul 27 13:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I did not check | Jul 27 13:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | to reproduce or witness scroll down in: | Jul 27 13:08 |
| schestowitz | https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/howtos_2.shtml | Jul 27 13:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos (UPDATEDx5) | Jul 27 13:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Older versions of Bugzilla weren't unpleasant to use. | Jul 27 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | These latest ones pressure you into using a GitHub account to sign in. | Jul 27 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | They use dark patterns to make it not immediately obvious how to use a local account. | Jul 27 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | Someone needs to go back and fork one of the older releases. I think Wine still uses an older release. | Jul 27 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | is that mozilla's version of it | Jul 27 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | that it uses for Firefox? | Jul 27 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | or the upstream version? | Jul 27 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | Mozilla is compromise | Jul 27 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | compromised | Jul 27 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | we know that much... | Jul 27 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | Seriously compromised. | Jul 27 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | Things started to take a serious wrong turn about 8 years ago. | Jul 27 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | It's been an endless shit show ever since Baker announced the DRM plug-in. | Jul 27 13:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | iut should become a verb | Jul 27 13:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | "they get bakered" | Jul 27 13:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "baked" | Jul 27 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | That was followed by the Yahoo, "Firefox Quantum" with shitty half-functional extensions, layoffs, "MDN premium", VPN advertising in the browser, Firefox Suggest keylogging, telemetry, an experiment to see if they'll switch to Bing. | Jul 27 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | Not in chronological order. | Jul 27 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | SeaMonkey can't go on without Firefox, though, even though Firefox development isn't good for SeaMonkey. | Jul 27 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla will collapse. It's debatable what happens to Gecko at that point. | Jul 27 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | It could die or it could continue on as a Free Software project. | Jul 27 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | It wouldn't be the first time it's been written off as a failure and survived. | Jul 27 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | Remember all of those Microsoft trolls that were paid to attack Mozilla and boost IE? | Jul 27 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | Hmm, back to bed now for a while. | Jul 27 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I know what you mean | Jul 27 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the Web itself is too bloated | Jul 27 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | when i say the Web | Jul 27 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mean two things | Jul 27 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | the sites | Jul 27 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the browsers they expect | Jul 27 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | The engines. | Jul 27 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are not welcome to small codebases | Jul 27 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you cannot change all the sites, either | Jul 27 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | The engine has to be as complicated as Chrome now to render a site. | Jul 27 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | so gecko or safari (already years behind) | Jul 27 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure how to differentiate blink from the chrom* stuff | Jul 27 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | or khtml | Jul 27 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | Webkit doesn't render the Web that well always. | Jul 27 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | probably needs charing | Jul 27 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | a picture of commonality and timeline | Jul 27 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | Sites often see the UA and serve it some stripped down version. | Jul 27 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | k html is still around | Jul 27 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | KHTML was not doing well last I looked. | Jul 27 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | It's maybe a notch up from Netsurf. | Jul 27 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | konqueror has it only as an option | Jul 27 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | i still us netsurf every day | Jul 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | mostly for monitoring | Jul 27 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | "KHTML is set to be removed in KDE Frameworks 6.[3] It has not had active development since 2016, just the necessary maintenance to work with updates to Frameworks 5.[1] " | Jul 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I installed bugzilla for nhs | Jul 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't think it has any shithub | Jul 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the upstream version anyway | Jul 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's just probably BAKED in by Moz | Jul 27 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://phabricator.kde.org/T11543 | Jul 27 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-phabricator.kde.org | ⚓ T11543 Port Konqueror away from KHTML | Jul 27 13:21 | |
| schestowitz-TR | mantis was nice and simpler when I used it | Jul 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | London Town Hall | Jul 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | they moved to shitty JIRA | Jul 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | bloated and clumpsy | Jul 27 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | *clumsy | Jul 27 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | I like SeaMonkey better but it doesn't always work on every site. | Jul 27 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | For the most part it works fine. | Jul 27 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | The amusing part is that according to HTML5Test even SeaMonkey gets a higher score than Safari. | Jul 27 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | SeaMonkey Gecko is essentially a fork of the one used in Firefox. | Jul 27 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | They keep backporting things to modernize it while keeping internal APIs around. | Jul 27 13:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Jul 27 13:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I see it. Damn that was one of the bugs I fixed yesterday but it go clobbered | Jul 27 13:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | by git. I'll see what I have in the backups. Or else I will have to take a | Jul 27 13:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | fresh look at it. | Jul 27 13:29 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I think you also fixed the part where it would not refresh the page after applying an update | Jul 27 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Ok, I'll check that first, it's quicker. | Jul 27 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | I set the UA for Facebook to Safari on iPad. | Jul 27 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | They try to load so many damned scripts in the full site that it breaks it in ways I don't want to figure out. | Jul 27 13:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think I saw that in the conflict resolution bit after git pull ####################################### | Jul 27 13:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and was likely just a one-liner | Jul 27 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | The Mobile Safari version works in SeaMonkey. | Jul 27 13:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I opened that text file and peeked | Jul 27 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | I tried a bunch of user agents for obsolete browsers. | Jul 27 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | Mobile Safari returns a better looking site than IE 11 for Windows 10. | Jul 27 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | oops, ctrl-c | Jul 27 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | update-and-refresh-from-db.sh should do the update ok | Jul 27 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, I see, that's different from tm-update-entry-sql | Jul 27 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is what I used to edit "howtos_2 | Jul 27 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the above is a wrapper for that script, tm-update-entry-sql has more options | Jul 27 13:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and can be used to delete records too | Jul 27 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | gonna have a go at it now, with daily links round... | Jul 27 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder how long Facebook will keep a site around for IE 11 and things like that. | Jul 27 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | How many people could possibly be using IE 11 by now? | Jul 27 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously enough they'd rather serve up a degraded site that they already have code written for than to lock them out completely, I guess. | Jul 27 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | The sites on the leading edge of this bloated nasty "modern Web" crap are "social media". | Jul 27 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | "modern" | Jul 27 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | non-standard | Jul 27 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | or proprietary | Jul 27 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | "open" like openXML | Jul 27 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | --- | Jul 27 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am submitting some nodes | Jul 27 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and when refreshing, as part of post-registration of new pages, | Jul 27 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | it then cautions about the file you created with odd chars in the filename | Jul 27 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I suppose is intentional, but just wanted to mention that | Jul 27 13:56 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Jul 27 13:56 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it's on purpose though I don't see the warning messages when refreshing | Jul 27 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe not refreshing but the step prior to it | Jul 27 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 11.0; WOW64) Presto/2.12 Version/12.18 | Jul 27 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | That one makes Facebook return a static site that doesn't even need JavaScript. Even better. | Jul 27 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | I made it up. It would be "Opera 12.18 on Windows 11". | Jul 27 13:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the update? | Jul 27 14:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it does complain about some HTML structures but not the character set | Jul 27 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just updated a howto to add more | Jul 27 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and nothing in the old text got mangled | Jul 27 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me show you what refresh yields: | Jul 27 14:05 |
| schestowitz | refresh-site-from-db.sh | Jul 27 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Destination '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/n/2022/07/27/A_Test_33.shtml' is not writable | Jul 27 14:05 |
| schestowitz | 'A_Test_33' could not be written | Jul 27 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Destination '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/n/2022/07/27/Test_of_ÅÄÖ_for_UTF8.shtml' is not writable | Jul 27 14:05 |
| schestowitz | 'Test_of_ÅÄÖ_for_UTF8' could not be written | Jul 27 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | ytalk does not show the weird chars here at all, but they are in the CLI | Jul 27 14:05 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | ok | Jul 27 14:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | As far as I can tell the UTF is process ok, the weird characters might have been | Jul 27 14:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | paste errors | Jul 27 14:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | thanks. looking | Jul 27 14:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok | Jul 27 14:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I've run refresh-site-from-db.sh and get no warnings or errors | Jul 27 14:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | wait. it might be a permissions problem. looking. | Jul 27 14:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok I see some problem in tm-add-entry-sql.pl | Jul 27 14:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | hmm. I've tried a lot and can't duplicate any problem and it seems that | Jul 27 14:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | utf8 goes in and utf8 comes out | Jul 27 14:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I'll look at the possible permission problems now | Jul 27 14:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I've been able to add files as one user and modify them as another including | Jul 27 14:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | deleting them, all via the wrapper scripts | Jul 27 14:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | We'll just have to watch for a while longer | Jul 27 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll take a little break now, emptied some feeds | Jul 27 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | almost all went without a hitch | Jul 27 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. update to add more howtos | Jul 27 14:30 |
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| schestowitz-TR | rampant unfair practices" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/26/warren-padilla-demand-buttigieg-crack-down-airline-industrys-rampant-unfair | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 27 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Warren, Padilla Demand Buttigieg Crack Down on Airline Industry's 'Rampant Unfair Practices' | Jul 27 16:42 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | Diversion away from the urgent need to get rid of back-doored proprietary software https://www.lawfareblog.com/open-source-security-how-digital-infrastructure-built-house-cards NSA Bruce participates with CISA https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/securing-open-source-software.html | Jul 27 17:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.lawfareblog.com | Open-Source Security: How Digital Infrastructure Is Built on a House of Cards - Lawfare | Jul 27 17:01 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Securing Open-Source Software - Schneier on Security | Jul 27 17:01 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | it's feasible to go from simplified HTML to Gemtext but going the other way | Jul 27 17:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | would enable only the same level of markup as is possible with Gemini, I'm | Jul 27 17:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | thinking specifically about inline hyperlinks | Jul 27 17:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I was gonna say that too | Jul 27 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | with normalised html (tidy) detecting the template/pattern can make gemtext conversion more consistent and predictable | Jul 27 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | as news slowed doen in the past 10-16 years the clusters become more common | Jul 27 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | as singular pages, for one article, are only for important news | Jul 27 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | NSA Bruce will go into security leftovers witd "Ed:" next to it | Jul 27 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | 100 whales die on shore. NSA Bruce comes along, calls it a catastrophe. It smells bad. Let's find a way to make it smell less bad... | Jul 27 17:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | bruce has more or less retired since around the snowden papers IIRC | Jul 27 17:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | since then he is mostly quite or on occasion acts as apologist | Jul 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> With Football Stadiums About to Become Packed Again, Highest Daily COVID-19 Death Toll in More Than 3 Months https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/27/worst-summer/ | Jul 27 17:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » With Football Stadiums About to Become Packed Again, Highest Daily COVID-19 Death Toll in More Than 3 Months | Jul 27 17:22 | |
| schestowitz | I've just added an update to http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/OpenMandriva_Lx_ROME_Rolling_Technical_Preview.shtml | Jul 27 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx ROME (Rolling) Technical Preview | Jul 27 17:26 | |
| schestowitz | it all went well, chars all in tact | Jul 27 17:27 |
| schestowitz | I had to run refresh manually after the update | Jul 27 17:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | so the wrapper script failed somehow? | Jul 27 17:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | pl is the bare bones, sh takes care of all the updates | Jul 27 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe I just use the wrong (old) command | Jul 27 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | tm-update-entry | Jul 27 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | next time I will use the other one | Jul 27 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://truthout.org/articles/new-york-post-announces-covid-is-over-its-still-running-rampant/ | Jul 27 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | New York Post Announces COVID Is Over. It's Still Running Rampant. | Jul 27 17:29 | |
| schestowitz-TR | darwin award=culling the ignorant | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | darwin=survival of the fitting | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | covid=death of the old | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | covid 19 policy=death of the old, owing to the ignorant | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | brexitnaro=the ignorant and the lar in pos of power | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | 200k brits dead, but repeat afetr me | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have freedom, freedom day for boris | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and 1100+ died this past week alone | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | july/summer | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | when we went back to the gym in july 2020 we had ~500 new cases a day, uk-wide | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | 5-10 deaths | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and everyone stil wore a mask | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | this isn't "Freedom". This is bullshit. | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | /sfitting/fittest/ | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | after 21 years, soon we have 9/11 memorials | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | nothing annual regarding spanish flu, or any of the big killers | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | not much political gain | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | like pentagon graft | Jul 27 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | spanish flu death toll similar to ww2, and it killed the young too | Jul 27 17:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 17:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | or those that have to cross paths with the ignorant :/ | Jul 27 17:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 17:39 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I did not word it to suggest the stupid die | Jul 27 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the stupid around them kill then | Jul 27 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and concernd parrents who raisded dumb kids are more vulnerable to carriers/vessels | Jul 27 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | for now, the cashiers still stand behind polastic screens | Jul 27 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but droplets will keep infecting millions of Brits PER WEEK | Jul 27 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | until everyone has had a chance to get ill several times, just like most people | Jul 27 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | got those 35 USD doses several times | Jul 27 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Research published Tuesday warns that "forever chemicals" used in everyday products could lead to tens of billions of dollars in medical costs" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/26/study-ties-forever-chemicals-exposure-billions-us-health-costs | Source: Common Dreams | Jul 27 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Study Ties 'Forever Chemicals' Exposure to Billions in US Health Costs | Jul 27 17:42 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 17:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes they infect themselve but they also spread it around their physical | Jul 27 17:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | area and they don't just keep to themselves | Jul 27 17:42 |
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| schestowitz-TR | capitalism and collective responsibility work in the context of collective punishment, not responsibility | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and risks are outsourced | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | we tried in march 2020 | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | gym reopened | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | then again lockdowns in 2021 so we came back to the gym | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | then came freedom day | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | we quit the gym | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | they sent us request to fill out a survey yesterday | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reckon they lost a ton of members | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | they had already lost 40%, they told me | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | they brought in total idiots with FB marketing campaign (young people who don't keep distance and shout) | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the original member, older quiet people, left | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | one trend correlates with the other | Jul 27 17:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | we still have two massage vouchers, but reluctant to even use them | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reckon by now they have the demography of Malaga in summertime | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I had gone to that gym since 2000 | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's where we had that tuixmachines 15-year party | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was months before covid-19 broke out in wuhan | Jul 27 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | re TM, I am still in the process of figuring how descriptions and how to repurpose them, e.g. key sentence for singles | Jul 27 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and for clusters a short overview, then copied across to headings or editorial comments in TR | Jul 27 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes it's hard to find a description as umbrella for all links | Jul 27 17:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Jul 27 17:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | "a round up of today's links" ... | Jul 27 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am thinking more specific, see what I added 30 secs ago | Jul 27 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | for singles it's easier, either editorial remark of key sentence | Jul 27 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | making an editorial remark that covers 5 links "all in one" is harder | Jul 27 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | looking at quiterss, you've neatly resolved the problem associated with long headlines and narrow screen | Jul 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and below left-hand pane it flows into the empty space below if the end of it is reached | Jul 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it maximiases its use of screen space | Jul 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | what will always matter most is the content | Jul 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but this layout and performance (speed) do it more justice | Jul 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | LinuxToday got very slow and bloated some years ago | Jul 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | very awful CMS they made/picked | Jul 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | can take 5+ secs to load a page with justone para and one link | Jul 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | they must have taken those hipsters as devs who think I want to download their fonts to get some link | Jul 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | I worked with such webdevs 7 or so years ago and discovered sending proprietary fonts to visitorss | Jul 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | had become a "thing" | Jul 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and immediately advised against that | Jul 27 18:00 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 18:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | "webdevs" | Jul 27 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have artsy skills | Jul 27 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | usually also arts degrees | Jul 27 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some of them use expensive prporietary tools, from Adove or whatnot | Jul 27 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's not entirely their fault | Jul 27 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's the fault also of developers who made these tools | Jul 27 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | flash, flex, electron, vue.js etc. | Jul 27 18:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 18:27 |
| britney | react.gs | Jul 27 18:34 |
| britney | react.js | Jul 27 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah, that too | Jul 27 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | Phoronix sponsored by AMD gifts. AMD is a foremost proponent of Microsoft lockdown at chip level. So I view Phoronix's concerns as an expression of guilt, partly. He also took some 'freebies' from Microsoft. | Jul 27 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | ICBM has long loved TPM/Palladium (just as it loved war, it's a prime source of income). So don't expect Red Hat to put up any meaningful resistance to what Microsoft does to de facto ban Linux. Heck, Red Hat was the employer of the "engineer" (geneticist) who put the Trojan horse there in the first place, conflating control by Microsoft with "security". | Jul 27 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | Phoronix sponsored by AMD gifts. AMD is a foremost proponent of Microsoft lockdown at chip level. So I view Phoronix's concerns as an expression of guilt, partly. He also took some 'freebies' from Microsoft. | Jul 27 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | ICBM has long loved TPM/Palladium (just as it loved war, it's a prime source of income). So don't expect Red Hat to put up any meaningful resistance to what Microsoft does to de facto ban Linux. Heck, Red Hat was the employer of the "engineer" (geneticist) who put the Trojan horse there in the first place, conflating control by Microsoft with "security". | Jul 27 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | oops | Jul 27 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | double past | Jul 27 18:36 |
| britney | I heard that it would be a good idea to learn javascript or python to have a scripting language under your belt | Jul 27 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | any links or ideas o thoughts would help improve a post about this (later) | Jul 27 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | still studying a bit | Jul 27 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's a case that shows we were right all along | Jul 27 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | britney: depends what for | Jul 27 18:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 18:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://www.theregister.com/2002/06/25/ms_to_eradicate_gpl_hence/ | Jul 27 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | MS to eradicate GPL, hence Linux • The Register | Jul 27 18:38 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq-1.0.html | Jul 27 18:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://www.technologyreview.com/2002/10/25/234673/the-palladium-paradox/ | Jul 27 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cl.cam.ac.uk | Trusted Computing FAQ TCPA / Palladium / NGCSB / TCG | Jul 27 18:38 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.technologyreview.com | The Palladium Paradox | MIT Technology Review | Jul 27 18:38 | |
| schestowitz-TR | added as post refs to draft, thanks | Jul 27 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the latest I just have two URLs, one of which a WSL apologist | Jul 27 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | who thinks microsoft entering mesa is "good" | Jul 27 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | (it's for WSL) | Jul 27 18:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | np | Jul 27 18:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | np | Jul 27 18:43 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and azure is declining still | Jul 27 18:43 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I presume the firings are 1) still going on and 2) still being covered up | Jul 27 18:43 |
| Techrights-sec2 | permatemps | Jul 27 18:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | you have to have full-time employees for that to count as layoffs and not "end of contract" ^_^ | Jul 27 18:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was told a month ago about hiring freeze in the company | Jul 27 18:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | now results are "lower than expected" (blame the currency) in spite of massive bailouts (graft) | Jul 27 18:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | spotted bug | Jul 27 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | headlines with "?" in them | Jul 27 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | the browser can sometimes cope | Jul 27 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | %3F | Jul 27 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it throws some off the scene | Jul 27 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | *scent | Jul 27 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | so impotant to cull "?" in titles | Jul 27 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the URL part | Jul 27 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | example | Jul 27 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | latest story in new TM | Jul 27 18:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the %3F is necessart because questionmarks are not allowed in URLs | Jul 27 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, but the URL contains a questioin mark | Jul 27 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | some browsers overcome it by rewriting the URL | Jul 27 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | curl/wget do not | Jul 27 18:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it can probably be handled better, checking | Jul 27 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's how I immediately noticed it | Jul 27 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | they got 404 | Jul 27 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reckon many CMS projects, wordpress included, wrote many regex stuff to convert a title into a Web-valid slug | Jul 27 18:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | in multiple lanaguages | Jul 27 18:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it seems like finding an existing implementation would take as long as writing one | Jul 27 18:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless you resort to plagiarism with ChokePilot | Jul 27 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | and call it "HEY HI" | Jul 27 18:57 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the XML (RSS) feed needs to have ? escaped | Jul 27 18:57 |
| Techrights-sec2 | can you try now? | Jul 27 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am going to try a headline with "?" at the end | Jul 27 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | quiterss givs 404 for that story | Jul 27 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, this time the URL showed up with %3F | Jul 27 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and either you amended the last one or an update system-wide rewrote the url for that one | Jul 27 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that's two which are corrected nows | Jul 27 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | *now | Jul 27 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | one rtroactively | Jul 27 19:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes I corrected it, that was one of the changes which regressed in yesterday's | Jul 27 19:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | loss of files | Jul 27 19:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | also Git still doesn't like to update in to the DocumentRoot, but that's | Jul 27 19:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | how Git is. It's not designed or intended for read-only archives | Jul 27 19:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | The database holds the correct URL internally and then any time the | Jul 27 19:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | feeds or lists are regenerated, the newest parsing and templates are used | Jul 27 19:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | losing work can be exceptionally demoralising | Jul 27 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I hope you dfid not lose mouch or that you manged to recover the lion's share from backup or memory | Jul 27 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did a full system backup over the weekend | Jul 27 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I feel a lot more relaxed and it also frees up disk space | Jul 27 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | to moist people computers are stressful | Jul 27 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | no zen | Jul 27 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne was very stressed this morning over the wifi thing | Jul 27 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and went to the kitchen to try to forget about it | Jul 27 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | it just "magically" worked later | Jul 27 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | we use #tuxmachines IRC to coordinate a bit | Jul 27 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the open | Jul 27 19:31 |
| Techrights-sec2 | most of it was recovered and in principle none was really lost its just that | Jul 27 19:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it was completely unclear how it gets so out of sync. | Jul 27 19:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | For example a few minutes ago it would not pull the latest and then after a | Jul 27 19:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | bit it did | Jul 27 19:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | proprietary wifi is a mess; yes but some of it is standardized proprietary | Jul 27 19:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | too many wifi boxes are stolen linux | Jul 27 19:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | at some level, (spec) wifi is propriuetary | Jul 27 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think old and current/new/future are NDAd and there are patenbts | Jul 27 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for bluetooth and xG | Jul 27 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's all legal barbwires | Jul 27 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | Jul 27 19:38 | |
| schestowitz-TR | "pay to play" or stockpile patents for the "pool" | Jul 27 19:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that too | Jul 27 19:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | again, I'll repeat for emphasis, too many wifi boxes are stolen linux | Jul 27 19:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | LF is the reason for that | Jul 27 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | or rather, LF exists to help those who are doing this and keep Torvalds under control | Jul 27 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe not originally, but it got infiltrated more and more | Jul 27 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | soon they'll life seat price and limits on numbers | Jul 27 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and Mcirosoft (or "loves Linux" fame) can buy half a dozen seats | Jul 27 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then use that money to sponsor SJVN articles about how Microsoft BECAME Linux ( | Jul 27 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | just ignore all that "can't boot Linux" faff) | Jul 27 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | --- | Jul 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne has just posted 4 links from yorkshire | Jul 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | when she gets back I'll show her how to post and edit in the new site | Jul 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | for a period of time we can keep both updated in tandem and give people a chance to give feedback | Jul 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | before locking down old, reverting back to 27/6 snapshot | Jul 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and passing across the "missing" nodes | Jul 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | going to check log sizes in "new" | Jul 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | sooner or later some bots and spiders will start "humping" it | Jul 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | all logs combined 30k | Jul 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | 12k for access logs | Jul 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | lines that is | Jul 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's check ssh access logs | Jul 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | if alpine makes these easy to find | Jul 27 19:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it's already under various probes and attacks we probably ought to have | Jul 27 19:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | SSHGuard running on it for some of the clumsier attackers but many attacks | Jul 27 19:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | seem to be highly distributed and thus immune to those kinds of mitigations | Jul 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is in messages, flagged sshd or auth.info | Jul 27 19:48 |
| schestowitz | tuxmachines-new:/var/log# tail messages.0 | grep auth.info | wc -l | Jul 27 19:50 |
| schestowitz | 7 | Jul 27 19:50 |
| schestowitz | tuxmachines-new:/var/log# tail messages | grep auth.info | wc -l | Jul 27 19:50 |
| schestowitz | 9 | Jul 27 19:50 |
| schestowitz | tuxmachines-new:/var/log# | Jul 27 19:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | we should contact BillBC, search for some of these IPs being in Russia and China | Jul 27 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and say we're under attack from BRICS | Jul 27 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | an d by attack we mean "breeach" :-) | Jul 27 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | Those f*inng RUSHANS | Jul 27 19:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes it does | Jul 27 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | awk '$6~/^sshd/' /var/log/messages | Jul 27 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the best thing to quiet the logs is to turn off password access | Jul 27 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | $ awk '$6~/^sshd/' /var/log/messages | wc -l | Jul 27 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 887 | Jul 27 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :D | Jul 27 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I bet most of those IP address scan back to Windoze boxes | Jul 27 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec2 | or else to compromised hosting services like Google or AWS | Jul 27 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | some of them are compromised by the "CLIENTS" trhemselves | Jul 27 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | like idiots who run pcore on full plast | Jul 27 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | *blast | Jul 27 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | they did this to us | Jul 27 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I complained to AWS | Jul 27 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | took them like a whole day to responmd | Jul 27 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | these sorts of attacks affected some clients at work too | Jul 27 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the point of just banning anything with pcore | Jul 27 19:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that quickly? | Jul 27 19:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me find the post | Jul 27 19:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | (last night our capsule got over 55k page requests... took me a while to see and say, "ah, that's why my connection is a snail today") | Jul 27 19:55 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/06/28/aws-ddos/ | Jul 27 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Amazon AWS Used for DDOS Attacks Against My Web Sites, Amazon Takes 14 Hours to Reply But Not Take Action (Updatedx5) | Jul 27 19:56 | |
| schestowitz | remember clown means many IPs, legally | Jul 27 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the above, today 90% of the log entries are ssh | Jul 27 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | days ago it was 70% | Jul 27 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on the tail alone | Jul 27 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | looking at ddos watcher, gemini will be at over 30k today | Jul 27 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm going to record soon or just write an aritlce | Jul 27 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | might wnat to shave before recording | Jul 27 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | *ant | Jul 27 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | *Want | Jul 27 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | otherwise I'll be all frown like Microbell | Jul 27 20:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Jul 27 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | A Year Ago Brexitnaro/Borisnaro Declared ‘Freedom Day’. Now, Almost 50,000 Additional Deaths Later, ~1100 Die in a Week in England Alone (in Summer). https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/27/a-year-ago-brexitnaroborisnaro-declared-freedom-day-now-almost-50000-additional-deaths-later-1100-die-in-a-week-in-england-alone-in-summer/ | Jul 27 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » A Year Ago Brexitnaro/Borisnaro Declared ‘Freedom Day’. Now, Almost 50,000 Additional Deaths Later, ~1100 Die in a Week in England Alone (in Summer). | Jul 27 20:35 | |
| schestowitz-TR | by the way, pandemic has a certain definition | Jul 27 20:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | that def is still applicable | Jul 27 20:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | endemic is if it's limited to one region or country, not global | Jul 27 20:36 |
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