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Techrights-secMore grumbling: LXD pushes Snaps: https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/getting-started-cli/Apr 28 08:36
Techrights-secAre there any month-by-month statistics about Gemini's growth?Apr 28 08:36
Techrights-sec   https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/Apr 28 08:36
Techrights-sec"Project sponsored by Canonical Ltd."Apr 28 08:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxcontainers.org | Linux Containers - LXD - Getting startedApr 28 08:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxcontainers.org | Linux Containers - LXD - IntroductionApr 28 08:36
schestowitz-TRfor month-to-month stats on gemini see botond's capsuleApr 28 08:39
schestowitz-TRI've just checked backup gz files again, all fineApr 28 08:39
schestowitz-TRI think I might do a video about the lunduke thinApr 28 08:43
schestowitz-TR*thingApr 28 08:43
schestowitz-TRsince I set up a job to test the integrity of gz file I never saw an error, so I've just checked Apr 28 08:43
schestowitz-TRmanually in case I miss somethingApr 28 08:43
Techrights-secackApr 28 08:44
Techrights-secfor the most part, he's been off his rocker for at least a yearApr 28 08:44
schestowitz-TRto be fair to him,. he has a family to feed, his profession is dying (publishers,Apr 28 08:46
schestowitz-TRgulagtube etc.), and there's this pandemic thingApr 28 08:46
schestowitz-TRthat he cannot keep cool is a weaknessApr 28 08:46
schestowitz-TRhe did say some self-discrediting thingsApr 28 08:46
schestowitz-TRand he keeps making promises he cannot keepApr 28 08:46
Techrights-secyes, even when giving him a lot of slack for getting money to feed his familyApr 28 08:46
Techrights-secI'd still have to say that he's been off his rockerApr 28 08:46
Techrights-seccan't or just plain doesn'tApr 28 08:51
Techrights-sec:(Apr 28 08:51
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schestowitz-TRirc post for today?Apr 28 09:14
schestowitz-TR(side note: today I tried to make a mental list of 4 thing to do, which was a mistaker, as even thoughApr 28 09:14
schestowitz-TRI did 4 things I cannot be entirely sure it was these things; so better to not even make the mentalApr 28 09:14
schestowitz-TRlists: something like post bulletin, post irc, catch up with chat, and check daily links. I used to put in the palmApr 28 09:14
schestowitz-TR pda a "checkllist" of sorts, but that became more of a burden over time, so I stopped years ago)Apr 28 09:14
Techrights-seccheckig  Apr 28 09:14
schestowitz-TRI think at the end it is,Apr 28 09:16
schestowitz-TR1) either write things downApr 28 09:16
schestowitz-TR2) or don't make any lists at all, use intuitionApr 28 09:16
schestowitz-TReither way, the truly important things are likely written down already, in any caseApr 28 09:16
Techrights-secposting of links can happen any time but posting of IRC logs can only happenApr 28 09:17
Techrights-secafter they've been prepared, so the two activities cannot be pairedApr 28 09:17
Techrights-secone of the problems is that it becomes rote and done witout thought and thusApr 28 09:17
Techrights-secis not thought about; it is overdue for automation but that is contingentApr 28 09:17
Techrights-secupon the OS upgrade ...Apr 28 09:17
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schestowitz-TRand probably CMS change, tooApr 28 09:17
schestowitz-TRthe gemini side of IRC logs is automated and never gets it wrong when I check (which is rare)Apr 28 09:18
Techrights-secGemini is handled on an uptodate OSApr 28 09:19
Techrights-secmore / better / relevant tools are available thereApr 28 09:19
schestowitz-TRnoptice how gemini always updates OK on its own following changes made with tc, some cleanup of staleApr 28 09:20
schestowitz-TRprocesses etc.Apr 28 09:20
schestowitz-TRI've not even had to log in for a weekApr 28 09:20
schestowitz-TRI've decided to do the video about lunduke later today along with the EPO videoApr 28 09:31
schestowitz-TRas it's faster when several are done in a row Apr 28 09:31
schestowitz-TRI don't plan to cover gemini much anymoreApr 28 09:31
schestowitz-TRit's still growing and there's lots I can just link to, insteadApr 28 09:31
Techrights-secackApr 28 09:40
schestowitz-TRmaybe the key message is,Apr 28 09:42
schestowitz-TRif you want to support Gemini then,Apr 28 09:42
schestowitz-TRa) use itApr 28 09:42
schestowitz-TRb) link to itApr 28 09:42
schestowitz-TR(b) follows (a) and (b) helps people learn about gemini because it they stmble upon gemini://Apr 28 09:42
schestowitz-TRlink and want to open it, then they must learn something newApr 28 09:42
Techrights-secmore importantly, at this point in time, would be packaging for key distrosApr 28 09:46
Techrights-secof the Gemini clients; that is the next step   Apr 28 09:46
Techrights-secit cannot grow beyond the niche it has without being accessible to normalApr 28 09:46
Techrights-secGNU/Linux and BSD usersApr 28 09:46
schestowitz-TRat the moment a lot of gnu/linux and bsd users are technicalApr 28 09:47
schestowitz-TRyou could argue that growth can come through "mobile"Apr 28 09:47
schestowitz-TReven if that sucksApr 28 09:47
schestowitz-TRseeing articles about mastodon, i wonder if the message should still beApr 28 09:47
schestowitz-TRjust abandon social control media completelyApr 28 09:47
Techrights-secthere's technical and then there's bleeding edge; both can agtee that it isApr 28 09:47
Techrights-secnot appropriate to require people to build from source and update from sourceApr 28 09:47
Techrights-secin the context of average softwareApr 28 09:47
Techrights-secI would say yes, that social control media in all its forms should beApr 28 09:47
Techrights-secavoided for many reasonsApr 28 09:47
schestowitz-TRother links/daily links no longer contain thoseApr 28 09:49
schestowitz-TRand NOTHING OF VALUE WAS LOSTApr 28 09:49
schestowitz-TRif they have something important to say, they will blog about itApr 28 09:49
schestowitz-TRand if it can be summed up in one sentence aloneApr 28 09:49
schestowitz-TRthen it's likely not of much valueApr 28 09:49
schestowitz-TRand might not be verifiaable, which is likely the more important aspectApr 28 09:49
Techrights-secespecially since none of the articles truly explain the federated nature of Apr 28 09:49
Techrights-secMastodon and even then the blacklists are automated and centralized anywayApr 28 09:49
Techrights-secYes, blogging is the way to goApr 28 09:49
schestowitz-TRThe Web we Lost - Anil Dash (article, talks etc.) [citation] Apr 28 09:50
schestowitz-TRwow, lxer links to techrights today and the traffic is like... nothing.Apr 28 10:00
schestowitz-TRyeah, don't smile too fastApr 28 10:00
schestowitz-TRyesterday I also saw 3 links from redditApr 28 10:00
schestowitz-TRsame, no trafficApr 28 10:00
schestowitz-TRit's becoming like traffic in twitterApr 28 10:00
schestowitz-TRor casinos and gambling in the street or arcade tokensApr 28 10:00
schestowitz-TRthey show you the "success stories" (like front page)Apr 28 10:00
schestowitz-TRof jackpotsApr 28 10:00
schestowitz-TRbut for 99% of more it's nothing but a dreamApr 28 10:00
schestowitz-TRfalse marketingApr 28 10:00
schestowitz-TRsome people join twitter for "activism"Apr 28 10:00
schestowitz-TRbecause they saw Daily Mail something...Apr 28 10:00
Techrights-sec:)Apr 28 10:00
Techrights-sec:(Apr 28 10:00
Techrights-secSo lxer is much smaller than it used to beApr 28 10:00
Techrights-secthey promote those statistical anomalies as if they were the rule and not theApr 28 10:00
Techrights-secexceptionApr 28 10:00
Techrights-secNotice also that Facebook and the others only get 'growth' coverage andApr 28 10:00
Techrights-secmostly only positive articles, to help keep them afloatApr 28 10:00
schestowitz-TRyou have seen how I put itApr 28 10:03
schestowitz-TRthe real news is that that facebook loses relevanceApr 28 10:03
schestowitz-TRbut that FB itself ADMITS itApr 28 10:03
schestowitz-TRusing its secret, proprietary dataApr 28 10:03
schestowitz-TRand now the Zuck is getting to gripsm with it having no real futureApr 28 10:03
Techrights-secyesApr 28 10:03
schestowitz-TRso he wants some fiction he may have read about as a kid toApr 28 10:03
schestowitz-TRa) be hyped up by media like "hey hi" (metaverse, meta, vr, ar)Apr 28 10:03
schestowitz-TRb) become market leader in thisApr 28 10:03
schestowitz-TRc) keep shareholdera around for (b), based on lies in (a)Apr 28 10:03
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft is the same in the post-Windows eraApr 28 10:03
schestowitz-TRsecurityApr 28 10:04
schestowitz-TRgamesApr 28 10:04
schestowitz-TRmilitary-wareApr 28 10:04
schestowitz-TRhosting (azure)Apr 28 10:04
schestowitz-TRdevelopers developers developers (shithub)Apr 28 10:04
schestowitz-TR"CNC Engraver" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/no-laser-cnc-engraver-is-something-new-under-the-sun/ | Source: HackadayApr 28 10:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-No-Laser CNC Engraver Is Something New Under The Sun | HackadayApr 28 10:17
Techrights-secM$ has lost some of the games market already, how much more remains to beApr 28 10:18
Techrights-secseen and appears to have put them in a panicApr 28 10:18
Techrights-secthe loss of github is problematic especially because too many idiots and Apr 28 10:18
Techrights-secidiot journals try to conflate version control and Git specifically with GitHubApr 28 10:18
schestowitz-TRsome of the time, not all the time, this is deliberateApr 28 10:20
schestowitz-TRthe equiv. of producing FB "happy stories" (we met in FB, got married..)Apr 28 10:20
schestowitz-TRBTW, ICBM does ther sameApr 28 10:20
schestowitz-TRI occasionally show examples of thisApr 28 10:20
schestowitz-TRLF also (FOSSForce is one of their tentacles, but that can turn Christine intoApr 28 10:20
schestowitz-TRanother SPAMnil)Apr 28 10:20
Techrights-secIn th beginning, every time FB started to ebb, the tabloids and worse filledApr 28 10:20
Techrights-secwith "happy stories" about FBApr 28 10:20
Techrights-secFOMO was pushed heavily and still isApr 28 10:20
schestowitz-TRGirls I met online (and then in person) were always not goodApr 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRnot to say ones I met in person first were perfectApr 28 10:21
schestowitz-TRbut at least you find out evry fastApr 28 10:21
Techrights-secyesApr 28 10:22
schestowitz-TRI cannot imagine doing job interviews or court hearings "online"Apr 28 10:24
schestowitz-TRIt is a grotesque notion that shows how supposed "progress"Apr 28 10:24
schestowitz-TRis exactly the opposite of itApr 28 10:24
schestowitz-TRit's like calling pr0n a progress for sexApr 28 10:24
schestowitz-TRor like calling [something] better than xuisineApr 28 10:24
schestowitz-TRcannot think of that something yet, maybne a pastry and coffee at starbucksApr 28 10:24
schestowitz-TRhmmmmmmmm!!! STARBUCKS... SOOOOOO DELICIOUS!!!Apr 28 10:24
Techrights-secMost places make it illegal to dig around online and especially in social Apr 28 10:26
Techrights-seccontrol media for job applicants, but the way around that is to outsourceApr 28 10:26
Techrights-secpart of the hiring process one or two layers deep and turn a blind eye toApr 28 10:26
Techrights-seccontractor abuses and violationsApr 28 10:26
schestowitz-TRGulag approached me 2-3 times over the years after "stalking" me onlineApr 28 10:26
schestowitz-TRI assume in USENETApr 28 10:26
schestowitz-TRif that's illegal, and according to what chris DiBono told me this is in fact what the recruiters doApr 28 10:27
schestowitz-TR(along with headhunting), then maybe legal action is overdueApr 28 10:27
schestowitz-TR*DiBonaApr 28 10:27
schestowitz-TR(of course he tries to destroy GNU/RMS/FSF now)Apr 28 10:27
schestowitz-TR(the millionaire turncoat who is troubled by poor activists)Apr 28 10:27
Techrights-secGoogle approached me in person a *very* long time ago but I was quit turnedApr 28 10:27
Techrights-secoff by their (then) recent hiring of microsofters and spend the encounterApr 28 10:27
Techrights-secwarning them of the consequences of bringing microsofters inside the companyApr 28 10:27
Techrights-secneedsless to say they did not heed and my warnings were proven prescient :(Apr 28 10:27
schestowitz-TRRed Hat has had similar problemsApr 28 10:31
schestowitz-TRNot sure about CanonicalApr 28 10:31
schestowitz-TRbut at the back of our minds we should perpetuALLy have this lingering reminder Apr 28 10:31
schestowitz-TRthat states too DO NOT want citizens to control their devicesApr 28 10:31
schestowitz-TRsApr 28 10:31
schestowitz-TRso there will be coordinated efforts to promote centralised "media"Apr 28 10:31
schestowitz-TRand consolidated mediaApr 28 10:31
schestowitz-TRnot blogsApr 28 10:31
schestowitz-TRor OSes that are like chromeOSApr 28 10:31
schestowitz-TRas a compromise for when Windows is up in flames and down in market shareApr 28 10:31
Techrights-secCanonical has been thoroughly ruined from the inside by microsofters.Apr 28 10:33
Techrights-secThe exit strategy seems to be to bail via IPO next year.Apr 28 10:33
Techrights-secCorrect, a lot of overt and covert action will be taken to ensure thatApr 28 10:33
Techrights-secgroups and projects move in a centralized, proprietary direction.        Apr 28 10:33
Techrights-secRemmber the "licensing disagreement" that blocked the pro-open standards Apr 28 10:33
Techrights-secweb sites, almost down to a site, during the hours that some of the European Apr 28 10:33
Techrights-secstates were deliberating on OOXML.  That "disagrteement" was resolved withinApr 28 10:33
Techrights-secminutes of the decision and within an hour or so, service was restored once itApr 28 10:33
Techrights-secwas too late to influence the decision(s)Apr 28 10:33
Techrights-secLXD is not available on Devuan and only via Snaps on Debian. :/Apr 28 10:34
Techrights-secLXC is somewhat insecure, last I read :\Apr 28 10:35
schestowitz-TRectra complexity was never good for securityApr 28 10:36
schestowitz-TRfor a number of reasonsApr 28 10:36
schestowitz-TRI know, I know... they will say "insulation", "isolatioon", "abstraction" etc. Apr 28 10:36
schestowitz-TRbut containers are not the wayApr 28 10:36
schestowitz-TRyou end up having to deal with a lot more files all over the placeApr 28 10:36
Techrights-seca Snaps on Debian. :/Apr 28 10:38
Techrights-secLXC is somewhat insecure, last I read :\Apr 28 10:38
Techrights-secI figure shared hosting may the best way to go, but I can see some convenienceApr 28 10:38
Techrights-secfactors with "just" copying a large image from one machine to anotherApr 28 10:38
Techrights-secThe container itself is a service and a complex one at that.  Complexity is BAD.From the little I see of LXC / LXDApr 28 10:38
Techrights-secand FreeBSD jails, FreeBSD jails seemApr 28 10:38
Techrights-secworlds better.      Apr 28 10:38
schestowitz-TRdisk space got cheaperApr 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRb/w is less of a problem in most placesApr 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRwww got bloated because it's "faster" (for development) to ignore contraints and limitsApr 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRsimilarly, on the server side and desktop (flatpak/snap), containers are seen as "compromise"Apr 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRjust get half a gig of "stuff" for some small prograApr 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRAppImages are also MASSIVEApr 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRbut we no longer federate installs using cd-roms or even DVDsApr 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRfrom what I recall, the install media for Vista 11 is loaded with lots of very very Apr 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRpoor-quality cruftApr 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRthis is where the world goes (EPO also): low-quality junk in high quantitiesApr 28 10:41
schestowitz-TRkettle every year, OS with EOL after 2 years, patents on CHEWING GUMApr 28 10:41
schestowitz-TR====Apr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TRon a positive note, I think we have done a fantastic job, all things considered (like people moving to "apps" Apr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TRas jail-as-'media'), in TM and TRApr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TRI had to cut off a lot of the patent new picks as it's more noisy than it's worthApr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TRI am back to work tonight, but will do a recording on EPO (now in lxer) and LundukeApr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TRThe upside of his articles, lunacy notwithstanding (I saw none of the rest; I dumped him like a hot potatoApr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TRwhen he was shilling Microsoft), is they they legitimise what we've long said about OSI, LF, and othersApr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TRand you can be sure he has read us as when you research those issues Techrights is very visibleApr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TRhence the likes of Gulagboy coming to IRC looking for "material"Apr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TRlast week I learned that it's "homophobic" to be against PentaGAFAMApr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TReven if you write about an org led by someone whom you presume is heteroApr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TRbut I think that trick will backfire on himApr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TRHe stepped away from OSI, partly, this yearApr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TRPhipps is backApr 28 10:47
Techrights-secyes, a lot of good work and you do a *lot* of work Apr 28 10:47
Techrights-secackApr 28 10:47
Techrights-secIn a good way or a bad way?Apr 28 10:47
schestowitz-TROK, I don't want to ctrl c/v into unix termApr 28 10:51
schestowitz-TRgo to the osi site/blog, search for webmink or phippsApr 28 10:51
schestowitz-TRhe wrote about things like patentsApr 28 10:51
schestowitz-TRwhich I think is an area they should be active inApr 28 10:51
schestowitz-TRhe rallied people in the EU to submit input Apr 28 10:51
schestowitz-TRI used to chat with him privately about those issuesApr 28 10:51
schestowitz-TRbefore we got into big arguments over the OSI's direction and Patrick resignedApr 28 10:51
schestowitz-TRhe was so proud that he promoted diversity that he lost sightApr 28 10:51
schestowitz-TRof what those people stood for (or didn't)Apr 28 10:51
Techrights-secThat's good news then.Apr 28 10:55
schestowitz-TRit would be counter-productive if I wrote something like, phipps is back and writingApr 28 10:57
schestowitz-TRfor osi for first time in yearsApr 28 10:57
schestowitz-TRas it would also give the false impression he's as important (or of integrity) asApr 28 10:57
schestowitz-TRPerensApr 28 10:57
schestowitz-TRPhipps worked with FSFE to undermine FSFApr 28 10:57
schestowitz-TRPerens is corresponding with RMSApr 28 10:57
schestowitz-TRwhile phipps mocks him and signs ant-RMS defmation writsApr 28 10:57
schestowitz-TR"It’s very early days for CAD Sketcher, a new parametric CAD add-on for Blender by [hlorus], but it looks very promising" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/cad-sketcher-its-parametric-cad-for-blender/Apr 28 10:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-CAD Sketcher, It’s Parametric CAD For Blender | HackadayApr 28 10:58
schestowitz-TRa longstanding, applicable, suitable analogy is "doping"Apr 28 11:02
schestowitz-TRlike financial doping in football clubsApr 28 11:02
schestowitz-TRsome of these "open source" people try to cheat their way into thronesApr 28 11:02
schestowitz-TRso they provoke and lie and suck up Apr 28 11:02
schestowitz-TRand temporarily they might benefitApr 28 11:02
schestowitz-TRall the coup leaders (vs rms) are outApr 28 11:02
schestowitz-TRgulagboy not in gulagApr 28 11:02
schestowitz-TRdeb not in osiApr 28 11:02
schestowitz-TRbully and mcgovern unemployedApr 28 11:02
schestowitz-TRnot sure where deb isApr 28 11:02
schestowitz-TRshe vanishedApr 28 11:03
schestowitz-TRlike MattLApr 28 11:03
schestowitz-TRspamnil is busy tryint to bear gulag's algos and get noticedApr 28 11:03
schestowitz-TRLF too will drop himApr 28 11:03
schestowitz-TRin my articles FOR the video on LF I already have 3 new linkssApr 28 11:03
schestowitz-TRabout LFApr 28 11:03
schestowitz-TRthey got some other new lackey to run linux.comApr 28 11:03
schestowitz-TRI mentioned him in passing a month agoApr 28 11:03
schestowitz-TRLunduke did mention their NFT lunacy!Apr 28 11:03
schestowitz-TRgoing on "RT" for an interview is a bit like dopingApr 28 11:04
schestowitz-TRit might seem like a good idea (at the time)Apr 28 11:04
schestowitz-TRbut years later you can get blacklisted like Russian atheletesApr 28 11:04
schestowitz-TRso better say, "no thank you... I'd rather not be on TV than be associated with you"Apr 28 11:04
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schestowitz-TRAssange paid a MASSIVE price, for 10 years, for having some show broadcast via some company in "RT"Apr 28 11:07
schestowitz-TRsome other associates of his (Jeremie and others) can get "marked" for thisApr 28 11:07
schestowitz-TRafaik chomsky never went on iranian or russian channels, everApr 28 11:08
schestowitz-TRnot sure if hedges countsApr 28 11:08
schestowitz-TRI think hedges just sold his episodes to RTApr 28 11:08
schestowitz-TR"RT" is not newsApr 28 11:08
schestowitz-TRRT is a campaign to descridit EU and USApr 28 11:08
schestowitz-TRand they will rope anything in... to support this missionApr 28 11:08
schestowitz-TRunder the guise of "journalism" and "free press"Apr 28 11:08
Techrights-secackApr 28 11:08
Techrights-secapt analogyApr 28 11:08
Techrights-secyes good callApr 28 11:08
Techrights-secthe associatino hurt both RMS and JA from day oneApr 28 11:08
schestowitz-TRdoping [metaphor]: doing something to get ahead, at least temporarily, despite knowing and sensing that it Apr 28 11:15
schestowitz-TRmay be counter-intuitive and counter-productive. Ex: clickbait.Apr 28 11:15
schestowitz-TRI am trying to recall the name of IDG "journalists" who made up people and quotes. Randall Keneddy? I thinkApr 28 11:15
schestowitz-TRat least one of those names is right, but anyway his career was over after this and past articles were Apr 28 11:15
schestowitz-TRretroactively disgraced. He did some reporting against Microsoft, but you would not wish to link to thisApr 28 11:15
schestowitz-TRknowing what you know about him now.Apr 28 11:15
schestowitz-TR"CBS News hiring former Trump aide Mick Mulvaney speaks volumes about systemic problems in our media. Mulvaney notoApr 28 11:17
schestowitz-TRriously defended various Trump chicaneries"  https://fair.org/home/damn-good-for-cbs-but-really-bad-for-democracy/Apr 28 11:17
schestowitz-TR | Source: FAIRApr 28 11:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Damn Good for CBS—but Really Bad for Democracy - FAIRApr 28 11:17
schestowitz-TR^Bryan Lunduke, "Linux Sucks!"Apr 28 11:17
Techrights-secunfortunatley soApr 28 11:20
Techrights-secI can't reca;; specific IDG "journalists"Apr 28 11:20
schestowitz-TRI have just checkedApr 28 11:21
schestowitz-TRRandall C. KennedyApr 28 11:21
schestowitz-TRwrote a lot in infoworldApr 28 11:21
schestowitz-TRwhen it still ran/existed (I've not even seen that domain in ages)Apr 28 11:21
Techrights-secInfoWorld was ok back in the 1990sApr 28 11:23
Techrights-secperhaps a bit longer tooApr 28 11:23
Techrights-secTHat's common: buy a brand or take over the name from the insude and thenApr 28 11:27
Techrights-secgut it for short term profitApr 28 11:27
Techrights-secdo it for a few quarters before people catch on and use the rising stockApr 28 11:27
Techrights-secprices to cash in and to get a new job doing more of the same damage atApr 28 11:27
Techrights-seca new companyApr 28 11:27
schestowitz-TRTwitter.Apr 28 11:28
schestowitz-TRInfoworld:Apr 28 11:28
schestowitz-TRnow oened by some chinee entityApr 28 11:28
schestowitz-TRthey use a few of the still-online domain for "BRAND POST"Apr 28 11:28
schestowitz-TRand other sponsored webspamApr 28 11:28
schestowitz-TRtrying to ride what's left of the past reputationApr 28 11:28
schestowitz-TRthey used to do BOSSIE AwardsApr 28 11:28
Techrights-secTHat's common: buy a brand or take over the name from the insude and thenApr 28 11:28
Techrights-secgut it for short term profitApr 28 11:28
Techrights-secdo it for a few quarters before people catch on and use the rising stockApr 28 11:28
Techrights-secprices to cash in and to get a new job doing more of the same damage atApr 28 11:28
Techrights-seca new companyApr 28 11:28
schestowitz-TRTwitter.Apr 28 11:29
schestowitz-TRSCMPApr 28 11:29
schestowitz-TR(for Chinese example)Apr 28 11:29
schestowitz-TRSingapore has quite a few examples, but I forgot the details due to passange of timeApr 28 11:42
schestowitz-TROn the plane they handed out 'free' copies of the regime's mediaApr 28 11:42
schestowitz-TRPAPApr 28 11:42
schestowitz-TRshowbox-for-home landApr 28 11:42
schestowitz-TRShoeApr 28 11:42
schestowitz-TROverpopulation based on hype and consumrismApr 28 11:42
schestowitz-TRmandatory military service for menApr 28 11:42
schestowitz-TRand reliance on imports as they barely make anything of their ownApr 28 11:43
schestowitz-TRsame as macao (IIRC highest pop. density in the planet)Apr 28 11:43
Techrights-secackApr 28 11:43
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Don't let corporations conflate social cohesion with commercial impunityApr 28 11:55
schestowitz-TRI want to ask you,Apr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TRregarding CanonicalApr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TRneither of us is an accountantApr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TRbut I was thinking in th e kitchenApr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TRthe company was insolvent years agoApr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TRif they say "IPO", does that mean buying time with other people's money?Apr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TRAlso, MS (Mark S) claims profitsApr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TRwhy now?Apr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TRWhy not before?Apr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TRThey killed off the communityApr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TRin a lot of waysApr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TRcould he be faking it and, if the firm is private, what would be the ramifications?  Apr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TR(nb. most businesses do not make money, but they hide it or talk about "the future")Apr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TR[this is brainstorming IN CASE I want to thjrow a hat in the ring]Apr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TRif a company turns from losses to big profits while the users of its flagship product FLEE, somethingApr 28 12:04
schestowitz-TRseems a tad "off"Apr 28 12:04
Techrights-secIt's probably his way of cashing out and leaving, having had enoughApr 28 12:17
schestowitz-TRok, here is the thingApr 28 12:19
schestowitz-TRif I said something dismissiveApr 28 12:19
schestowitz-TRand someone said, "PROVE IT!"Apr 28 12:19
schestowitz-TRI would not have compelling materialApr 28 12:19
schestowitz-TRbut intuition and guy feelign say he's just making proclamationApr 28 12:19
schestowitz-TRto encourage people to investApr 28 12:19
schestowitz-TRbut once they see if from the inside, they'll realise it has many server Apr 28 12:19
schestowitz-TRusers but not so much moneyApr 28 12:19
schestowitz-TRa lot of that happens, buyer's remorseApr 28 12:19
schestowitz-TRlike IBMApr 28 12:19
schestowitz-TR----Apr 28 12:21
schestowitz-TRyears ago mandriva was enraged that MS (Mark S), having grabbed the lion's share of desktyop users,Apr 28 12:21
schestowitz-TRmoaned that there was "no money in it"Apr 28 12:21
schestowitz-TRwhile he was doing ShipItApr 28 12:21
schestowitz-TRand Mandriva was trying toi upsell superpacksApr 28 12:21
schestowitz-TRso even then he complained he was in it for moneyApr 28 12:21
schestowitz-TRnot altruismApr 28 12:21
schestowitz-TRand then focused more on eating debian's and icbm's lunchApr 28 12:21
schestowitz-TRinstead of microsoft's or apple'sApr 28 12:21
Techrights-secyes Mark could have done well except for allowing the microsofters into MOTUApr 28 12:22
Techrights-secwhich damaged the project + company, then he  made the damage permanentApr 28 12:22
Techrights-secby hiring in more micrtosofters and placing them within the companyApr 28 12:22
schestowitz-TRthe first I knew of, via IRC ("tacone" from Italy) was Rick SponcerApr 28 12:23
schestowitz-TRlater Jono Bacon was licking the bootApr 28 12:23
schestowitz-TRand then there was the Azure turnoff, WSL etc.Apr 28 12:23
schestowitz-TRWSL failed so badlyApr 28 12:23
schestowitz-TRthat it's mostly WINDOWS sites shilling it, and even that it rare this yearApr 28 12:23
Techrights-secBacon was a spinmeister and more a diode than conduit, he was to lord on highApr 28 12:26
Techrights-secto the community about how they were going to have to accept, than interactApr 28 12:26
Techrights-secwith the community and negotiate mutal goals and work towards them; Apr 28 12:26
Techrights-seche was a *VERY BIG PART* of the problem with Canonical; Yet despite doing Apr 28 12:26
Techrights-secso much damage to the company and the project he was lauded for his effortsApr 28 12:26
Techrights-secrather than thrashed and driven out into isolationApr 28 12:26
Techrights-secas he more rightly deservedApr 28 12:26
Techrights-secMany were fooled by his (mis-)use of the title Community Manager and did notApr 28 12:34
Techrights-seclook further at his harmful actions.Apr 28 12:34
Techrights-secadd one more to the fail pile if you count his time at Ubuntu ...Apr 28 12:34
schestowitz-TR"art" of community managermentApr 28 12:35
schestowitz-TRhis art is not graphics, or barely. His "art" is shouting into the microphone.Apr 28 12:35
schestowitz-TRwhich I think speaks "volumes".Apr 28 12:35
schestowitz-TR"bad volume"Apr 28 12:35
schestowitz-TRhis current podcastApr 28 12:35
schestowitz-TRhe had many failed ones over the years, more than I can recallApr 28 12:35
schestowitz-TR"bad volume" barely even focuses on Free softwareApr 28 12:35
schestowitz-TRhis prior podcast was named after boozeApr 28 12:35
schestowitz-TRhe worked at github while Microsoft ambushed the company for takeoverApr 28 12:35
schestowitz-TR(afaik, github manmagement was aware all along)Apr 28 12:35
Techrights-secI would not be surprised if he had somehow contributed to the demise of GitHubApr 28 12:35
schestowitz-TRhe was there for a relatively short time, I think they failed to find somthing for him to doApr 28 12:36
schestowitz-TRas he lacked both the technical skills or.... well....what else?Apr 28 12:36
Techrights-secindeedApr 28 12:36
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Techrights-secof the news sites covering mastodon, many of them are calling it a "site" wintApr 28 15:42
Techrights-sec^withApr 28 15:42
Techrights-secwith the implication that it is a centralized service and avoid mentioning evenApr 28 15:42
Techrights-secthe idea of decentralization and federation; though truth be told, the centralized blacklists do a ot to neutralizeApr 28 15:42
Techrights-sec the benefits of federationApr 28 15:42
Techrights-secyepApr 28 15:42
schestowitz-TRthe media is also mostly centralisedApr 28 15:43
schestowitz-TRthey cover the same BSApr 28 15:43
schestowitz-TRwhich comes from the same regimes and corporationsApr 28 15:43
schestowitz-TRusing the same funnels, such as Gulag search and FBApr 28 15:43
schestowitz-TRto them, www is just a bunch of "companies" and "stores"Apr 28 15:43
schestowitz-TRthis is not how the web startedApr 28 15:43
Techrights-sec"Wired" at least has the federation part described correctly, despite it beingApr 28 15:44
Techrights-seca shadow of what it ws in the 1990s when they wrote regularly about cutting Apr 28 15:44
Techrights-secedge policy issuesApr 28 15:44
schestowitz-TRthe "they" changedApr 28 15:45
schestowitz-TRtechnical people and scholars, geeksApr 28 15:45
schestowitz-TRnow stenographers with no relevant qualifications except grammar/englishApr 28 15:45
schestowitz-TRsort of like what JUVE Patent becameApr 28 15:45
schestowitz-TRnot understanding of technical issueApr 28 15:45
schestowitz-TRno understanding of legal issuesApr 28 15:45
schestowitz-TRor what patents areApr 28 15:45
Techrights-secHowever, didn't mastodon have its roots in GNUsocial?Apr 28 15:46
Techrights-secThe GNU Social roots of the fediverse would be a good topic to coverApr 28 15:46
Techrights-secif you are still looking for video topicsApr 28 15:46
schestowitz-TRI think you remember it not accurately, except the term "fediverseApr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TR"Apr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRmastodon afaik started from scratch as Twitter cloneApr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRand statusnet being gnu social predated that by a lotApr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRlater they connected across 'CMS' stuff, inc. for videoApr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRbut never got around to diasporaApr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRwhich likely hurt diasporaApr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TR(btw, THEY ARE ALL SHIT!)Apr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRthey used to have many users, mastodon had momentum in 2017, but it's all going down the toiletApr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRthat's why joindiaspora pulled the plug... not many active users leftApr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRit is not a twitter issue (Also down)Apr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRor FB (down)Apr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRit's the concept Apr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRgamification of filtered communicationsApr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRmoanths ago when joindiaspora was throwiong in the towel I shows you some stats in a site that combinees allApr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRa lot of the activity is historicalApr 28 15:50
schestowitz-TRin recent years you saw lots of shutdowns, inc. distrotoot and drew devault's instanceApr 28 15:50
Techrights-secmy innacuracy is due to my ignorance in that area, I have not followed it at allApr 28 15:51
Techrights-secackApr 28 15:51
schestowitz-TRin terms of videos, I'm well behindApr 28 15:52
schestowitz-TRI need to do belarus article, I'm well behind on RSS feed (lost a lot of time arguing in IRC)Apr 28 15:52
schestowitz-TRneed to then record about LF and BelarusApr 28 15:52
schestowitz-TRand I start work in 100 minutesApr 28 15:52
schestowitz-TRdraftApr 28 16:28
schestowitz-TRthe summary was an attempt at EPO tie-in, but I will expand a bit Apr 28 16:28
Techrights-secackApr 28 16:28
Techrights-secneeds a tie-in to the EPO in the intro so that the reader knows this willApr 28 16:28
Techrights-secbe about patents or the EPO itselfApr 28 16:28
Techrights-secsame for the conclusionsApr 28 16:29
Techrights-secthanksApr 28 16:29
schestowitz-TRok, check the new summary and last paragraphApr 28 16:35
Techrights-secnice.  thanks! Apr 28 16:42
Techrights-secthat provides much more context for the bodyApr 28 16:42
schestowitz-TRthanks for the sanity checkApr 28 16:43
schestowitz-TRit did not occur to meApr 28 16:43
schestowitz-TRI work in 45 minsApr 28 16:43
schestowitz-TRso will start recording NOWApr 28 16:43
schestowitz-TROTAApr 28 16:43
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schestowitz-TR1) I was frustrated to lose my first recording re EPO, but the second time around was better anyway Apr 28 18:50
schestowitz-TRand I learn my lessons (obs double checking) without losing anything os immense valueApr 28 18:50
schestowitz-TR2) while recording about lunmduke I realised he created some straw menApr 28 18:50
schestowitz-TRseveral incorrect assertion that can in fact discredit some of our thesisApr 28 18:50
schestowitz-TRso in a 'defensive' move I think my article will be focused on stating that is not true/accurateApr 28 18:50
schestowitz-TRand set the record straight Apr 28 18:50
Techrights-secackApr 28 18:53
Techrights-secstrawmen are important to identify, they are distractions from the core issueApr 28 18:53
schestowitz-TRAs I go along the text, like last year with vaccines, I realiseApr 28 18:54
schestowitz-TRhe mighht do more harm to us than goodApr 28 18:54
schestowitz-TRwith these straw menApr 28 18:54
schestowitz-TRon the surface OK, but it's easy to prove him wreongApr 28 18:54
schestowitz-TRor misguided on COVID, tooApr 28 18:54
schestowitz-TRMy text will be defensiveApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRnot what I plannedApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TR\I had a very fast read last nightApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRbut now, while recording, I saw many small errorsApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRI will use the text to focus on thatApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRto defend what we have shownApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRLunduke might become the straw man, almost literally, for these issuesApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRand that would benefit nobodyApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRI want an outlet to burst out at the recording thingApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRwhich I already told rianne aboutApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRmy mouse has bad buttons Apr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRso sometimes it clicks twice, not onceApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRusually it's not causing any serious issues that I cannot correctApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRtoday it did m record/stop in succesionApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRbut I consider myself lucky as I managed to recall about 20 minutes' worth of thingsd I said and say the same moreApr 28 18:58
schestowitz-TRconciselyApr 28 18:59
schestowitz-TRbut I should not involutarily lose recordingsApr 28 18:59
schestowitz-TRso now there is another step in the checklistApr 28 18:59
schestowitz-TRobs does not make it very obvious when it recordsApr 28 18:59
schestowitz-TRwith webcomoid I have better protocols in placeApr 28 18:59
schestowitz-TRalso, after recording i had somew technical issue with a file, taking me about 20 minutes to correctApr 28 18:59
schestowitz-TRi.e. ther equivalent of time wasted recording to something that was not recordingApr 28 18:59
schestowitz-TRit's all relativeApr 28 18:59
Techrights-secackApr 28 18:59
Techrights-secnot just defend but also bring the discussion back on topic since strawmenApr 28 18:59
Techrights-secfallacies are one form of distractionApr 28 18:59
Techrights-secmaybe the mouse can be disassembled and cleaned to restore it to working    Apr 28 18:59
Techrights-seccondition. if not then it MUST be recycled in the electonic waste :(Apr 28 18:59
schestowitz-TRa simpler, well-overdue alternative is, improve the protcol for doubelk checking... in caase of double clicking: -)Apr 28 19:07
schestowitz-TRI tend not to throw anything awayApr 28 19:07
schestowitz-TRthis is the first time I lose something with obs and it's not the fault of obsApr 28 19:07
schestowitz-TRthere are more concrete issue like face and souns not being properly synchedApr 28 19:07
schestowitz-TRbecause my hardware is not strerong enough Apr 28 19:07
schestowitz-TRdraftApr 28 19:07
Techrights-secackApr 28 19:09
Techrights-secbroken equipment needs to be either repaired or removed permanently in suchApr 28 19:09
Techrights-seca way as to prevent reuse either through temptation or forgetfulness Apr 28 19:09
Techrights-seca reminder of the self-styled nature of the nickname is in order if it is Apr 28 19:09
Techrights-secusedApr 28 19:09
Techrights-secalso it needs to be reminded (as always) that EPO is not part of the EUApr 28 19:09
Techrights-secepsecially since EU is mentionedApr 28 19:09
schestowitz-TRI will revise the text a bitApr 28 19:10
schestowitz-TRI attempted to recall things I said when thinking I was recording and it was not recordingApr 28 19:10
schestowitz-TRbut anyway, lessons learned, no major harm doneApr 28 19:10
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schestowitz-TRit will always be a terrible feeling losing text of multimedia you worked onApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRwith text it can be worse because text is a process with refinementsApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRwhereas audio can be spontaneousApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRit's impossible to meliminate all data lossApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRbut possible to reduce itApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRwith text, I now write to the pi over ssh (all working text files)Apr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRif the pi dies, I have local copiesApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRif the local machine dies, the piu has all the filesApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRbut tbh,m I very rarely lose textApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRI lost an article more than 10 years ago after the palm PDA messed something up in the transferApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRity was something about Vista 7Apr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRand not a very long or detailed articleApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRlike the one I did "interview" for muktware) inside the gymApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRthat one was rather longApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRif I at least know I did what was possible to reduce loss (horrible feeling) and it no longer happensApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRoften, then I'm happyApr 28 19:28
Techrights-secyepApr 28 19:28
Techrights-secit is  hard torecreae the old flowApr 28 19:28
Techrights-secackApr 28 19:28
Techrights-secthings generally work when watched closely, when it comes to intermittent problemsApr 28 19:28
schestowitz-TRtm backup is happpening at this very momentApr 28 19:40
schestowitz-TRI sort of want it to fail at l;east once so that I know my check works OKApr 28 19:40
schestowitz-TRoh, wait, it's not compressing the dumps at all for TMApr 28 19:40
schestowitz-TRinvestigating...Apr 28 19:40
schestowitz-TRI think I found the issuieApr 28 19:40
schestowitz-TR'ionice nice'Apr 28 19:40
schestowitz-TRno, wait, that still pu  Apr 28 19:40
schestowitz-TRlol, got it, I was testing the gz before it existed, I thinkApr 28 19:40
schestowitz-TRI think it'll be OK now, on your backups you may have up to 4 uncompressed TM dumpsApr 28 19:40
schestowitz-TRI am compressing the 5 of them nowApr 28 19:40
schestowitz-TRlater on today I'll have a lot of catching up to do with linux newsApr 28 19:41
schestowitz-TRand with workApr 28 19:41
schestowitz-TRbut it's almost weekend already!Apr 28 19:41
Techrights-secrace condition :/Apr 28 19:41
Techrights-secackApr 28 19:41
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schestowitz-TRI'm still two posts behdindApr 28 19:57
schestowitz-TRrianne will help post the latest news to TMApr 28 19:57
schestowitz-TRalso helps with work atmApr 28 19:57
schestowitz-TRtesting 5 latest gz files in tmuxApr 28 19:57
Techrights-secackApr 28 19:57
Techrights-secexcellentApr 28 19:57
schestowitz-TRcoffeeApr 28 19:57
schestowitz-TRall were OK, I will check the script tomorrow Apr 28 19:57
schestowitz-TR'Public Knowledge' has just been infiltrated by Microsoft, so it is more likely to help cover up Microsoft’s crimes than promote actual knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-welcomes-new-members-to-board-of-directors/Apr 28 21:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Welcomes New Members to Board of Directors - Public KnowledgeApr 28 21:43
schestowitz-TRcrosoft’s Anti-Linux Propaganda and Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164258Apr 28 22:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft's Anti-Linux Propaganda and Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesApr 28 22:03
schestowitz-TRsee comment on SchneierApr 28 22:03
schestowitz-TRI will take the belarus text agsin and redo it to overcompensate for the lossApr 28 22:14
schestowitz-TRaway I know, but there's a draft nowApr 28 22:14
schestowitz-TRinstead of blasting byan I directed the cirtiicsm towards the LFApr 28 22:14
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Techrights-sec"General Manager of Microsofts Global Airband Initiative" from the first linkApr 28 23:24
Techrights-secwas apparently bought from the FCCApr 28 23:24
Techrights-secrevolving door politics :Apr 28 23:24
schestowitz-TRrevolving door politics :/Apr 28 23:24
schestowitz-TRgraft as governanceApr 28 23:24
Techrights-secrevolving door politics :/Apr 28 23:24
Techrights-secgraft as governanceApr 28 23:24
schestowitz-TR0/Apr 28 23:24
schestowitz-TRYou theory about calm before storm and FUD coordination seems more plausibleApr 28 23:24
schestowitz-TR3 links above\Apr 28 23:24
schestowitz-TRcorporations are government, governments are corporationsApr 28 23:24
schestowitz-TRgraftApr 28 23:24
schestowitz-TRI've managed to remain rather clam considering all that happened today dnt his emotionally-drainingApr 28 23:26
schestowitz-TRBS from MicrosoftApr 28 23:26
schestowitz-TRI think we covered all the imports stuff in TM and TR has just had Daily LinksApr 28 23:26
schestowitz-TRmaybe I'll get a nap soon, need to rechargeApr 28 23:26
schestowitz-TRtomorrow I'm free to video ideas, found none other than rehash of Microsoft FUDApr 28 23:27
schestowitz-TRwhich would be a waste of time, just fgive that more attentionApr 28 23:27
schestowitz-TRso part 7 belarusApr 28 23:27
schestowitz-TRrms is asking me some questions about the whispersApr 28 23:32
schestowitz-TRbut it's a tricky oneApr 28 23:32
schestowitz-TRI only meant to drop a cautionary tip without disclosing much pertinent informationApr 28 23:32
schestowitz-TRso as to balance the need to mitigate risk of another "boycott GNU" (or similar)Apr 28 23:32
schestowitz-TRwith respect for privacy of someone or a conversationApr 28 23:32
schestowitz-TRI decided after 2 days that I ought to at least say somethingApr 28 23:32
schestowitz> Another link to Knight:  https://dcsolutionfocusedcounseling.com/Apr 28 23:41
schestowitz> <https://dcsolutionfocusedcounseling.com/>Apr 28 23:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dcsolutionfocusedcounseling.com | Home - BK ConsultingApr 28 23:41
schestowitzHAHAHA!Apr 28 23:41
schestowitzThanks, I shall use that.Apr 28 23:41
schestowitzRe: WorldIPday ipeuropeApr 28 23:43
schestowitz> The tweets of iPeurope for worldipday are hilarious.Apr 28 23:43
schestowitz> Apr 28 23:43
schestowitz> Patents helps transportation lol.Apr 28 23:43
schestowitzWithout patents, toasters would not work and you would starve to death!!Apr 28 23:43
Techrights-secackApr 28 23:43

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