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schestowitz-TR2this past month "Microsoft" barely shows up in Linux newsAug 30 09:08
schestowitz-TR2thory: they dismantled some units reponsible for it, e.g. WSL and PR spamAug 30 09:08
Techrights-secquite likely though this is the time of the year during which they regroupAug 30 09:09
Techrights-sechistorically (if I understand correctly) they call in their minions to a Aug 30 09:09
Techrights-secconference to ensure they are all on message for the coming academic yearAug 30 09:09
Techrights-secif they all return to making noise next week, don't be surprised ifAug 30 09:09
Techrights-sec1) they are all on the same talking points, but 2) those talking points haveAug 30 09:09
Techrights-secchange a little since the summer;Aug 30 09:09
schestowitz-TR2an hour ago in TM I put the video of Jay (leanrnlinuxtv) regarding "year of the desktop"Aug 30 09:11
schestowitz-TR2it's not a bad video, worth the time tbhAug 30 09:11
schestowitz-TR2I tend to playback invidious at 1.5x or 2x the speed, depending on the contentAug 30 09:11
Techrights-secDid he acknowledge the OEM monopoly that M$ abuses?Aug 30 09:11
schestowitz-TR2no, this is my main issue with itAug 30 09:13
schestowitz-TR2no mention of secure bootAug 30 09:13
schestowitz-TR2bribes OEM lockoutAug 30 09:13
schestowitz-TR2and other crimesAug 30 09:13
Techrights-secThen without acknowledgment of the anti-competitive abuses, specificallyAug 30 09:17
Techrights-secstuff like restricted boot and the OEM monopoly, there is really no pointAug 30 09:17
Techrights-secand in some ways is kind of blaming the victim:Aug 30 09:17
Techrights-sec"if only vendors saw the market potential ..."Aug 30 09:17
Techrights-sec"if only distros were easier to use ..."Aug 30 09:17
Techrights-sec"if only there were fewer distros ..."Aug 30 09:17
Techrights-secand so on with the FUD they are reinforcing.  Remember that m$ successfully  Aug 30 09:17
Techrights-secfought against and got laws blocking whitebox systems.  Aug 30 09:17
schestowitz-TR2hence I thought it might be worth doing a rebuttal toAug 30 09:19
schestowitz-TR2what do you think?Aug 30 09:19
schestowitz-TR2video rebuttal?Aug 30 09:19
schestowitz-TR2you can then see it with my responseAug 30 09:19
schestowitz-TR2it would be fair useAug 30 09:19
Techrights-secPerhaps more like filling in the gaps than an actual rebuttal.  DT often makesAug 30 09:22
Techrights-secthe same mistakes.  Though I can't guess the reason for DT's mistakes, itAug 30 09:22
Techrights-seccan't be naivety because he has been around the block enough times to knowAug 30 09:22
Techrights-sechow M$ operates.  If he is trying to project his own values onto the crowdAug 30 09:22
Techrights-secor mob known as M$, then that is a major error in judgement.  Without havingAug 30 09:22
Techrights-secseen Jay's video(s), I may be off, but say again that projecting ones own valuesAug 30 09:22
Techrights-secis a common error.  There may be other reason for missing or pretending notAug 30 09:22
Techrights-secto see the ongoing anti-competitive behaviors.Aug 30 09:22
schestowitz-TR2thanks, OTAAug 30 09:22
Techrights-secnpAug 30 09:24
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schestowitz-TR2done, I realise he does indeed repeat thew same (wrong) point again and again like 10 minsAug 30 10:48
schestowitz-TR2he could make it more concuise, but so could I (50 mins)Aug 30 10:48
schestowitz-TR2but I didn't script itAug 30 10:48
schestowitz-TR2I will now look into IRS files of LF for more thingsAug 30 10:48
schestowitz-TR2processing video, draft in place (not for LF, not yet)Aug 30 10:48
Techrights-secackAug 30 11:07
schestowitz-TR2draft re lfAug 30 11:36
schestowitz-TR2took a whileAug 30 11:36
schestowitz-TR2but worth itAug 30 11:36
schestowitz-TR2done, publishedAug 30 11:36
schestowitz-TR2there's lots more to be shown some other dayAug 30 11:36
schestowitz-TR2same for github, we keep it on reserveAug 30 11:36
schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> Excess Deaths in the UK This Summer Worst in Years https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/30/excess-deaths-in-the-uk/Aug 30 12:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Excess Deaths in the UK This Summer Worst in YearsAug 30 12:07
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Techrights-secackAug 30 12:36
schestowitz-TR2productive day today Aug 30 12:39
schestowitz-TR2the exam is tomorrow, then there will be another one for her ("Life in the UK"... she's scoring a lot higher than needed in the mock exams) Aug 30 12:39
schestowitz-TR2tomorrow is oral, so can induce some stress/anxiety, unlike the multiple-choice examAug 30 12:39
schestowitz-TR2I did my last shift today, could use more topics tbhAug 30 12:39
schestowitz-TR2or stuff to do on the sites, I've begun dealing a bit with the utf-8 issue, using a bunch of sed lines... I'll copy these over to rianne's scripts whenAug 30 12:39
schestowitz-TR2I'm done, to greatly reduce the chance of that happeningAug 30 12:39
schestowitz-TR2in rss I noticed such issues can creep in too Aug 30 12:39
schestowitz-TR2maybe some perl libraries handle unicode differently, that's my guess anywayAug 30 12:39
Techrights-secfor topics, there are those who apparently knowingly omit mentioning M$ ongoingAug 30 12:40
Techrights-secanti-competitive maneuvers, for whatever reason.  That shifts the blame to theAug 30 12:40
Techrights-secvictims and makes them at least passively complicit in the crimes.Aug 30 12:40
schestowitz-TR2i put a quick first draft about thisAug 30 12:41
schestowitz-TR2video is 50 mins, so will take longerAug 30 12:41
schestowitz-TR2I could add links, but said in the video they would be rather oldAug 30 12:41
schestowitz-TR2so it's more important to explain, with or within a lot of rerefencesAug 30 12:41
schestowitz-TR2Derak Tayloer is mentioned tooAug 30 12:41
schestowitz-TR2as you had brough Derek taylor upAug 30 12:41
Techrights-secHe mostly does good work but goes out of his way to turn a blind eye to theAug 30 12:49
Techrights-secOEM problems and joins those incorrectly placing the blame on the distros.Aug 30 12:49
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schestowitz-TR2I am not sure if TM server side manages to catch camelcase for the cites domain and inject that into title=""Aug 30 14:47
schestowitz-TR2so far I don't think I saw that happen except when I added thse manually at my endAug 30 14:47
schestowitz-TR2just sayin'Aug 30 14:47
schestowitz-TR2you did post an example with redhat.com but I don't think I have saw that working Aug 30 14:47
Techrights-seccheckingAug 30 14:51
Techrights-secIt works, for the sites that are registered, and only in new posts, not Aug 30 14:51
Techrights-secretroactively.  There'd have to be a script to do the retroactive editingAug 30 14:51
Techrights-secif the old posts are to be modified.Aug 30 14:51
Techrights-secIt's a labor intensive work flow to keep the file up to date.Aug 30 14:51
Techrights-secI'm not sure it is viable in the long run.Aug 30 14:51
schestowitz__[TR]<p class="dropcap-first">For a systems administrator, it seems like every project brings new complexity, more servers, and more sprawl to manage. I will assume that your messes are a lot like mine: On one server, you're running CentOS Linux 7 from a project several years ago. Over here, you have a handful of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 9 servers from a recent project. Over there, you have an Oracle RAC database running on Oracle Linux Aug 30 14:55
schestowitz__[TR]8.Aug 30 14:55
schestowitz__[TR]<a class="readon" title="" href="https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-update-convert2rhel-leapp">Read on</a>Aug 30 14:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.redhat.com | 2 tools to manage infrastructure sprawl with Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) | Enable SysadminAug 30 14:55
schestowitz__[TR]Also Red Hat: <a href="https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/edge-computing-considerations">Edge computing: 4 considerations for success</a>Aug 30 14:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-enterprisersproject.com | Edge computing: 4 considerations for success | The Enterprisers ProjectAug 30 14:55
schestowitz__[TR]<a href="https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/30/kubernetes-101-developers-names-ports-yaml-files-and-more">Kubernetes 101 for developers: Names, ports, YAML files, and more</a>Aug 30 14:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-developers.redhat.com | Kubernetes 101 for developers: Names, ports, YAML files, and more | Red Hat DeveloperAug 30 14:55
schestowitz-TR2isAug 30 14:56
schestowitz-TR2<a class="readon" title="" Aug 30 14:56
schestowitz-TR2the correct form?Aug 30 14:56
schestowitz-TR2rianne is posting like this too and it never picks up the domain when she doesAug 30 14:56
schestowitz-TR2see the outcome in the site (latest page)Aug 30 14:56
Techrights-seccheckingAug 30 15:11
schestowitz-TR2I've just attempted update ... .pl   with -d the camelcase testAug 30 15:11
schestowitz-TR2but I think the syntax as I used it did not workAug 30 15:11
schestowitz-TR2the shell wrapper does not support -dAug 30 15:11
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Techrights-seccheckingAug 30 15:28
Techrights-secthe shell wrapper does not do deletionsAug 30 15:28
Techrights-secI see the posts now, checking further Aug 30 15:28
Techrights-secI think I see the problem.  Aug 30 15:28
schestowitz-TR2thanks for looking into itAug 30 15:30
schestowitz-TR2from my ewnd, I'll try to weed out those "&#" symbolsAug 30 15:30
schestowitz-TR2marius never posts these symbolsAug 30 15:30
schestowitz-TR2sometimes, not always, the culprit is how I use curl and perl to fetch titleAug 30 15:30
Techrights-secThanks for spotting that.  Aug 30 15:51
Techrights-secAdditions and updates should work now.Aug 30 15:51
Techrights-secBut a script is needed to retroactively modify unannotated ReadOn link.Aug 30 15:51
Techrights-secackAug 30 15:51
schestowitz-TR2the old ones don't matter muchAug 30 15:52
schestowitz-TR2but going forward for years it is nice to have it build in, yielding tens of thousands auto-completitionsAug 30 15:52
Techrights-secThe key is to use the clas="readon" because that is the marker for the script.Aug 30 16:07
Techrights-secIs anyone working on the db at the moment?Aug 30 16:07
Techrights-secI can back it up and try and update, if it is quiet.Aug 30 16:07
schestowitz-TR2now is a good time to back it up Aug 30 16:09
schestowitz-TR2my rss reader is empty, I've just applied the fixes to rianne's scripts too and tested that upstairs Aug 30 16:09
schestowitz-TR2I also made a copy of the command you gave yesterday for backupsAug 30 16:09
schestowitz-TR2I won't post anything in the next 30 minsAug 30 16:09
schestowitz-TR2btw, i saw the conteroversial dancing video an hour agoAug 30 16:14
schestowitz-TR2I was expecteing a lot worseAug 30 16:14
schestowitz-TR2so basically it seems to be like lazy guys and girls are  a little jealous because she uis younger, looks better, and rose to power quicklyAug 30 16:14
schestowitz-TR2she did nothing illegalAug 30 16:14
schestowitz-TR2and having a good-looking PM is no national disgraceAug 30 16:14
schestowitz-TR2ffs... this video was showing tweets and tweets and tweetsAug 30 16:14
schestowitz-TR2like this is what "the media" now boils down toAug 30 16:14
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Techrights-secanother turning point to harp on is when LF got rid of community representationAug 30 16:58
Techrights-secackAug 30 16:58
schestowitz-TR2draft, shortAug 30 16:58
schestowitz-TR22016 (iirc)Aug 30 16:58
schestowitz-TR2maybe i'll do another part about thatAug 30 16:58
schestowitz-TR2trying to go through the irs forms seriallyAug 30 16:58
schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> Where LF used to be but left http://www.onelettermandrive.com/pdf/ldac_availability_6_13.pdfAug 30 17:18
schestowitz-TR2 And LF was in unit D: http://www.onelettermandrive.com/campus_plan.html# www.onelettermandrive.com/cp/building_d.htmlAug 30 17:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.onelettermandrive.com | Letterman Digital Arts CenterAug 30 17:18
schestowitz-TR2-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.onelettermandrive.com | Letterman Digital Arts CenterAug 30 17:18
schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> Linux development has long been based in Portland, but Jim Zemlin and Microsoft Sheela prefer to blow away $5,000,000+ a year (NOT their own money) on some glorified estate at the banks of Golden Gate BridgeAug 30 17:18
schestowitz-TR2draftAug 30 17:18
schestowitz-TR2this will abuse youAug 30 17:18
Techrights-secackAug 30 17:18
schestowitz-TR2adding transcriptAug 30 17:20
schestowitz-TR2adding transcriptAug 30 17:24
schestowitz-TR2he's a bit like TheLiar in our companyAug 30 17:24
schestowitz-TR2funnily enough, Sheela Microsoft looks a lot like SareenGasAug 30 17:24
schestowitz-TR2both of the same country of originAug 30 17:24
schestowitz-TR2Sareen liked to pretent she was from KSAAug 30 17:25
schestowitz-TR2to elevate her statusAug 30 17:25
Techrights-secackAug 30 17:25
schestowitz-TR2hoyek from container fame (docker) was ousted from his own companyAug 30 17:28
schestowitz-TR2familira story these daysAug 30 17:29
schestowitz-TR2JobsAug 30 17:29
schestowitz-TR2RMS (temporarily)Aug 30 17:29
schestowitz-TR2LT (same)Aug 30 17:29
schestowitz-TR2EFF (John)Aug 30 17:29
schestowitz-TR2the capital givers call the shotsAug 30 17:29
schestowitz-TR2and those whom the capital givers hold by the stringsAug 30 17:29
schestowitz-TR2other than our CEO (relatively OK; technical too) I'm the longest serving employeeAug 30 17:29
schestowitz-TR2I doubt I can find a way out by year's endAug 30 17:29
schestowitz-TR2they're not progressing at allAug 30 17:29
Techrights-secRMS seems retired at this pointAug 30 17:29
Techrights-secackAug 30 17:29
schestowitz-TR2just stalling, but at least I'm paid for my time and today I opened my mouth againAug 30 17:29
schestowitz-TR2rms is prof emeritusAug 30 17:30
schestowitz-TR2still allowed the visit the campus sometimesAug 30 17:30
schestowitz-TR2give a special one-off lectureAug 30 17:30
schestowitz-TR2then go bakc home to dieAug 30 17:30
Techrights-sechmm. they should be working on using his guidance to future-proof the movementAug 30 17:30
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Techrights-secthe way 'open source' is being abused in place of Software Freedom, the Aug 30 17:36
Techrights-secresources are in effect being strip mined and not cultivated.  but the monthlyAug 30 17:36
Techrights-secor quarterly result crowd doesn't look that far ahead.  they can't care if Aug 30 17:36
Techrights-secthere's little to nothing in the pipeline compared to decades past if theyAug 30 17:36
Techrights-seconly look ahead a few weeks at a time.Aug 30 17:36
schestowitz-TR2I don't think it's about moneyAug 30 17:37
schestowitz-TR2they need to motivate enough volunteers to join hands a la DebianAug 30 17:37
Techrights-secackAug 30 17:42
schestowitz-TR2it does matter that osi perishes tooAug 30 17:44
schestowitz-TR2a lot can be accomplished on shoestring budgetAug 30 17:44
schestowitz-TR2I think gnu got lots done (thousands of 'workers') in the 1980s and 90sAug 30 17:44
schestowitz-TR2but didn't see that first-handAug 30 17:44
schestowitz-TR2osi lost almost all the "members"Aug 30 17:44
schestowitz-TR2not enough fools to 'volunteers' or 'donate' to a Micrtosoft front group/outpostAug 30 17:44
Techrights-secyesAug 30 17:44
Techrights-secpopular computer magazines at the time discussed not only the tools, whichAug 30 17:44
Techrights-secisn't even done any more, but also the reasons for the tools, up to andAug 30 17:44
Techrights-secincluding discussions of the GNU Manifesto -- in multiple magazinesAug 30 17:44
Techrights-secof the eraAug 30 17:44
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schestowitz-TR2those would not succeed today unless that fit in a "tweet"Aug 30 17:48
schestowitz-TR2with some emoji about a dancing 'celeb' in an infinite scroll UIAug 30 17:48
schestowitz-TR2I think today's interaction tools lack proper reading, saving, and writing capabilitiesAug 30 17:48
schestowitz-TR2they encourage shallow shit in high quantitiesAug 30 17:48
schestowitz-TR2"don't think before you post"Aug 30 17:48
schestowitz-TR2calling a person drunk just because the person dancesAug 30 17:48
schestowitz-TR2any press office would obstruct such foolish utterancesAug 30 17:48
schestowitz-TR2and contribute to better discourse, cohesioinAug 30 17:48
schestowitz-TR2the vast majority if the anti-RMS campaign went on in "social" control mediaAug 30 17:48
schestowitz-TR2though the signing was managd by Microsoft TypeScript in ShitHubAug 30 17:48
schestowitz-TR2by Elana HashpuppyAug 30 17:48
schestowitz-TR2(back then Azure @ ICBM)Aug 30 17:48
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schestowitz-TR2Elana HamasmanAug 30 17:50
schestowitz-TR2lolAug 30 17:50
Techrights-secMany article mention "cloud" and those that mention M$ Azure mention as an asideAug 30 17:51
Techrights-secthat they don't say how much, if any, money they make on it.Aug 30 17:51
schestowitz-TR2or what shareAug 30 17:52
schestowitz-TR2this was mentioned in irc about 2 hours agoAug 30 17:52
Techrights-seccheckingAug 30 18:05
Techrights-seconly mentioned there superficiallyAug 30 18:05
schestowitz-TR2curious I cannot find any real dataAug 30 18:05
schestowitz-TR2in the past there wasAug 30 18:05
schestowitz-TR2a) journalism (with real budget)Aug 30 18:05
schestowitz-TR2b) 'analysts' who study this, like sandvine for net trafficAug 30 18:05
Techrights-secold, rerun: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/07/13/u-s-newsroom-employment-has-fallen-26-since-2008/Aug 30 18:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.pewresearch.org | U.S. newsroom employment has fallen 26% since 2008 | Pew Research CenterAug 30 18:11
schestowitz-TR2curious I cannot find any real dataAug 30 18:14
schestowitz-TR2in the past there wasAug 30 18:14
schestowitz-TR2a) journalism (with real budget)Aug 30 18:14
schestowitz-TR2b) 'analysts' who study this, like sandvine for net trafficAug 30 18:14
schestowitz-TR2many of the remaning get rentedAug 30 18:14
schestowitz-TR2bill, jeff bezos, etc.Aug 30 18:14
schestowitz-TR2but don't worry, we still have billions of "tweets" out there and people who can toss them in a basket to call it "journalism", e.g. about Marin, Marine Le Pen,Aug 30 18:14
schestowitz-TR2and Cheeto NaziAug 30 18:14
schestowitz-TR2like with RMS< they've called corbyn everything in the black bookAug 30 18:14
schestowitz-TR2and twitter deems "you're next" (to be assassinated) to be OK while bagging KSA regime $Aug 30 18:14
Techrights-secThey hammered on Corbyn so long that he started to go along with what they Aug 30 18:15
Techrights-secwere setting him up for.  He's over.Aug 30 18:15
Techrights-secLong ago now.Aug 30 18:15
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schestowitz-TR2[...]Aug 30 18:18
schestowitz-TR2I herad something to that effect wrt libya  Aug 30 18:18
schestowitz-TR2but cannot verify for myselfAug 30 18:19
schestowitz-TR2the source is a cranky ol friendAug 30 18:19
schestowitz-TR2btw, corbyn was "assigned" to Integrite Initatyive (friends of Bill's Guardian)Aug 30 18:19
schestowitz-TR2which incidentally also got assigned to 'kill' AssangeAug 30 18:19
schestowitz-TR2around the same time CIA plotted to kill him and discussed optiondAug 30 18:19
schestowitz-TR2*optionsAug 30 18:19
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schestowitz-TR2---Aug 30 18:25
schestowitz-TR2ftr: "bashing" someone for running a scammy org = legti criticismAug 30 18:25
schestowitz-TR2not "harassment"Aug 30 18:26
schestowitz-TR2bashing a man who stares at people due to mental condition = low blowAug 30 18:26
schestowitz-TR2saying ytoung lady cannot dance with friends = sexism/slut-shamingAug 30 18:26
schestowitz-TR2if bojo did the same with his belly hanging, they'd say it's "clown" and "hoi polloi"Aug 30 18:26
schestowitz-TR2I foresee attempts to spin LF and EPO criticism as "abuse"Aug 30 18:26
schestowitz-TR2like OSI (just mentioned it in IRC btw) uses "homophobia"Aug 30 18:26
Techrights-secackAug 30 18:28
schestowitz-TR2<techrights-news> FACEPALM!!! " The affected product root credentials are hard-coded and not changed automatically when first commissioned, which may allow an attacker with SSH access to the device to gain full control." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-242-06Aug 30 18:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | Honeywell ControlEdge | CISAAug 30 18:32
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Techrights-secackAug 30 21:52
Techrights-secNote that there is a general whisper campagin among the microsofters againstAug 30 21:52
Techrights-secSSH itself.  It, along with IMAPS, has been targeted for removal from the net.Aug 30 21:52
Techrights-secI can guess at the reason.  SSH allows generic access, which helps keepAug 30 21:52
Techrights-secservers and other systems as interchangeable commodities.  If peope can onlyAug 30 21:52
Techrights-secor learn to only access the systems via proprietary interfaces, then the systemsAug 30 21:52
Techrights-secare effectively no longer commodities.  Aug 30 21:52
schestowitz-TR2I think the new modules that makes the TM RSS feed is having a hard time with "smart" quotes or unicodeAug 30 22:03
schestowitz-TR2look at the source of the RSS feed near the word "Unofficial" for instance (after that word)Aug 30 22:03
psydruidI've experienced this myself recently with Microsoft mail using some kind of OAuth that doesn't work with Thunderbird anymoreAug 30 22:04
psydruidThese kinds of substandard "solutions" must be rejectedAug 30 22:05
psydruidBut when even universities succumb to this nonsense the plot is lostAug 30 22:05
psydruidAnd this country loves Microsoft a lot, my university was/is one of the few holdoutsAug 30 22:06
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schestowitz-TR2citrix ;-)Aug 30 22:51
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schestowitz-TR2 Weaning off social media and the over-capitalised Big Internet life gemini://xiu.smol.pub/1661838260Aug 30 23:05
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