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schestowitz>>>>> outreachy.dating is available.  I have a lot of respect for women so IJun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>>>> won't register that domain.Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>>> The narrative you use unfortunately leaves some  women subjected toJun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>>> unwarranted shaming already. With or without their names online...Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>>>Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>>> Not sure of the best approach, maybe blurring faces would have worked.Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>>> Focusing on the 'predators' and not showing who they are using.Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>> It is a very awkward question.  If the faces are blurred then peopleJun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>> can't see that it is the same girl in 3 or 4 photos at different events.Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>>Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>> When Megan Stammers (15) ran away to France with her teacher theJun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>> newspapers all published both the name and the photo.  They redacted theJun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>> name until she became 18 and then they started using her name again.Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>>Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>> As long as the Outreachy money is on offer there is an actual risk ofJun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>> harm to women.  DebConf22 appears to be a risk for women and it alsoJun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>> appears to be a risk for innocent men who go there and accidentally getJun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>> photographed with the pimp or a teenager.  I was lucky to keep clear ofJun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>> all that on my visits there.Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>>Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>> The photos last week have been used many times before, sometimesJun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>> blurred.  This time people see the connection between the photos, theyJun 09 12:03
schestowitz>>> struck a chord, did you see the reaction?Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz>> yes, I guess the age factor is one of several factors that may causeJun 09 12:03
schestowitz>> alienationJun 09 12:03
schestowitz> The girls pictured with Lamb are born in 1994.  There are no underageJun 09 12:03
schestowitz> photos of those girls.Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz> Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz> There is only one girl who is 16 and she published the photo herself.Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz> But I can imagine some scenarios in which the photos are taken downJun 09 12:03
schestowitz> after DebConf.  As you saw yourself, the photos are making it moreJun 09 12:03
schestowitz> difficult for them to get female slaves to serve drinks and that isJun 09 12:03
schestowitz> probably why they complained to you.Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz> Jun 09 12:03
schestowitz>> you can be 100% right, but if you alienate your audience, then...Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> You told me that they were already lobbying you to stop syndicating onJun 09 12:04
schestowitz> Techrights many months before these photos appeared.  Other people gaveJun 09 12:04
schestowitz> me similar feedback about widespread vendettas to censor me. Have youJun 09 12:04
schestowitz> seen any specific change in attitude from those who are behind theJun 09 12:04
schestowitz> vendettas?Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> Have you seen any change in attitude from readers/observers?Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> Looking at the 15 resignations, I feel that the issue has had a veryJun 09 12:04
schestowitz> powerful impact for that subset of people even if some other peopleJun 09 12:04
schestowitz> don't care at all.  If you could choose only one of the followingJun 09 12:04
schestowitz> outcomes from your next piece of writing, which would it be?Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> a) debian.community dispute confirms harassment by DebianJun 09 12:04
schestowitz> Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> b) 10 more really good developers resignJun 09 12:04
schestowitz> Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> c) 10000 end users click "Like" on an articleJun 09 12:04
schestowitz> Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> Do you know anybody who likes to gamble with bookmakers like Ladbrokes?Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> It would be interesting to see if they will give odds on the WIPO case.Jun 09 12:04
schestowitz> I don't think it would be ethical for me to open a bet myself.Jun 09 12:04
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