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schestowitzMinceR: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/11/apple-introduces-apple-business-essentials/Nov 11 00:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.apple.com | Apple introduces Apple Business Essentials - AppleNov 11 00:22
schestowitzlolNov 11 00:22
schestowitzEssentialsNov 11 00:22
schestowitzDaemonFC: Essentials like AirPodsNov 11 00:22
schestowitzdozens of themNov 11 00:23
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MinceRit would be essential to avoid apple products in businessNov 11 00:25
schestowitzyesNov 11 00:27
schestowitzit's like a religion nowNov 11 00:27
schestowitzeverything air, i, and podNov 11 00:27
schestowitzthey even tried to market a serverNov 11 00:28
schestowitzdidn't last longNov 11 00:28
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schestowitz> It was a spoof, not meant to be taken seriously. . Note the automatic rifle on the woman’s hip. That means the wife is in control and cheating or divorce action by the husband is unlikely to happen.Nov 11 17:41
schestowitz:-)Nov 11 17:41
schestowitzYes, I know.Nov 11 17:41
schestowitzBut still... I just wanted to clarify that divorce rates there are high. Nov 11 17:41
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1458805033923919878Nov 11 20:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynmoody: this looks like a prediction from #COP26 https://t.co/HSBS26LvSzNov 11 20:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "It's still a little while away for release on February 17, with Linux as close as possible to that from Feral Inte… https://t.co/LrvGENcsqHNov 11 20:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1458803520304525321Nov 11 20:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz @FOSSForce Thanks, Roy!Nov 11 20:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/melitazajc/status/1458729073442791424Nov 11 20:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@melitazajc: Good. https://t.co/R7IklVerjCNov 11 20:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #Apple Faces Yet More 'Right To Repair' Backlash Over iPhone 13 Screen https://t.co/IR7McU1WqHNov 11 20:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/1458642488965615627Nov 11 20:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@iridesce57: #MonopolyBill https://t.co/GowbGKKowyNov 11 20:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "because #BillGates is not an elected representative or public official, the details of his far-reaching influence—… https://t.co/Mjj40rbBVvNov 11 20:46
schestowitzhttps://nitter.ey/brettglass/status/1458638957219045378Nov 11 20:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Could not resolve host: nitter.ey; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://nitter.ey/brettglass/status/1458638957219045378 )Nov 11 20:46
schestowitzhttps://nitter.eu/brettglass/status/1458638957219045378Nov 11 20:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | Brett Glass - WY7BG (@brettglass): "Sohn is a Google lobbyist and consistently pushed regulations that benefited Google at the expense of consumers. For example, she wanted Google to be able to take over your cable box, spying on your viewing and replacing commercials with its own ads." | nitterNov 11 20:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/brianfagioli/status/1458638403688407046Nov 11 20:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@brianfagioli: @BrideOfLinux @schestowitz Eh, I’m just ok. But I appreciate the nice words!Nov 11 20:47
schestowitzhttps://nitter.eu/GyroGen_TM/status/1458634129260662786Nov 11 20:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | GyroWaveGen(TM) (@GyroGen_TM): "Needs to go to $20K 1st prize + $10K 2nd prize & $5000 3rd prize! Cheapskates! How much do the attorneys make - win or lose? How much do expert witnesses cost?" | nitterNov 11 20:47
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schestowitzhttps://nittrer.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1458608405141241862Nov 11 20:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Could not resolve host: nittrer.eu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://nittrer.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1458608405141241862 )Nov 11 20:47
schestowitzhttps://nitter.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1458608405141241862Nov 11 20:48
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | Christine Hall (@BrideOfLinux): "Fagioli is a good writer, but he'd be much better if he lost his penchant for clickbait, sensational leds, and painting with too broad of a brush." | nitterNov 11 20:48
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schestowitzDaemonFC: Nov 11 20:52
schestowitzI am reading your postNov 11 20:52
schestowitzdid you see the latest from Moz?Nov 11 20:52
schestowitzTwo posts about Firefox privacyNov 11 20:53
schestowitzI think to distract from the issuesNov 11 20:53
DaemonFCProbably.Nov 11 20:54
DaemonFCI am so utterly disgusted by all of this.Nov 11 20:54
schestowitzon the third paragraph you have link issuesNov 11 20:54
schestowitz2 links are not visibleNov 11 20:54
schestowitzI think you found out rather later what Mozilla had been up toNov 11 20:54
DaemonFCIt's like Shock and Awe invasion by assholes who don't care it's falling apart, packing it with spyware, sabotaging it so it can't run on Debian, and cover up for Microsoft sites that deliberately send it corrupt data.Nov 11 20:54
schestowitza couple of years ago it got really baNov 11 20:54
schestowitz*badNov 11 20:54
schestowitzand now they spam "Edge" by MicrosoftNov 11 20:55
schestowitzto your phoneNov 11 20:55
DaemonFCI'm not having any link problems.Nov 11 20:55
schestowitzthey want to kill off everythingNov 11 20:55
DaemonFCMost of it is referencing earlier posts and Bugzilla.Nov 11 20:55
schestowitzthe web is messyNov 11 20:55
schestowitztwo matrix linksNov 11 20:56
schestowitzat the start and end of paraNov 11 20:56
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DaemonFCI'm hovering over everything, and it looks correct to me.Nov 11 20:57
schestowitzoh waitNov 11 20:57
schestowitzI see what happened hereNov 11 20:57
schestowitzyou copied from IRCNov 11 20:57
schestowitzand it added matrix linksNov 11 20:58
DaemonFCFirefox is a disaster.Nov 11 20:58
DaemonFCMicrosoft was openly trolling them and they still had nothing to say about it.Nov 11 20:58
DaemonFCMicrosoft commented specifically that Gecko was pointless and that Mozilla should switch to Blink like everyone else.Nov 11 20:59
DaemonFCThen they said that Mozilla's browser division itself was pointless and that they should just become a research institute so that Microsoft could pick over whatever they put out, like Rust, since Microsoft isn't smart enough to develop anything like it themselves. C# had so many problems that compiling an application for 32-bit Windows could create raw pointer problems if you ran it on 64-bit Windows.Nov 11 21:00
DaemonFCJava doesn't have raw pointers, so they basically took one of the few good things about Java and managed to get that wrong.Nov 11 21:00
schestowitzI found only a bogus typoNov 11 21:05
schestowitzinternet -> InternetNov 11 21:05
schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, Mozilla also destroys ThunderbirdNov 11 21:06
schestowitzit still works as a mail clientNov 11 21:06
schestowitzbut not much beyond thatNov 11 21:06
schestowitzthey killed off pretty much every extensionNov 11 21:06
DaemonFCMozilla itself has become unbearably toxic.Nov 11 21:06
DaemonFCAt least when I report bugs to Webkit and GNOME Web they say "Thank you for the bug report." and if it's not good enough they say "Can you please type this in and see what it says?".Nov 11 21:06
DaemonFCNot "Hi Ryan, you're being unhelpful for pointing out that Firefox couldn't run Facebook due to a UA issue we couldn't be bothered to fix for three years while it recommended our competitor, so we're going to silence you. -Love, Mozilla".Nov 11 21:06
schestowitzso the software only got worse over timeNov 11 21:07
schestowitzthey also censored me, IIRC, in Hacker NewsNov 11 21:07
schestowitzwhen I did popular articles about problems at MozillaNov 11 21:07
schestowitzI guess that makes me racist and "troll"Nov 11 21:07
schestowitzthere's a whole cult based around this delusionNov 11 21:08
schestowitz"only trolls dislike us""Nov 11 21:08
schestowitz"block and report"Nov 11 21:08
schestowitz"let's cancel them, they will get away''Nov 11 21:08
DaemonFCWell, we see what that's getting them.Nov 11 21:09
DaemonFC50 million fewer users than 3 years ago.Nov 11 21:09
schestowitzMicrosoft matters more to Mozilla than Free SoftwareNov 11 21:09
schestowitz3 years or 1?Nov 11 21:09
DaemonFC3....According to this...https://news.itsfoss.com/firefox-decline/Nov 11 21:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.itsfoss.com | Firefox Lost Almost 50 million Users: Here's Why It is Concerning - It's FOSS NewsNov 11 21:10
schestowitzOKNov 11 21:10
DaemonFC244 million daily Firefox users end of 2018.Nov 11 21:10
DaemonFC198 million end of Q2 2021.Nov 11 21:10
DaemonFCThey're going away.Nov 11 21:10
DaemonFCIgnoring things like the top 10 sites not working because they can't do a simple UA hack is not helping.Nov 11 21:11
DaemonFCEven though it is Facebook, people will leave Firefox when something they want to do doesn't work.Nov 11 21:11
DaemonFCSo it is an issue that needs addressed, else users leave and go use Chrome and then use Facebook anyway, and now we have two problems.Nov 11 21:12
schestowitz<li><h5><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/firefoxs-private-browsing-mode-upleveled-for-you/">Firefox’s Private Browsing mode upleveled for you</a></h5>Nov 11 21:12
schestowitz<blockquote><p>Nov 11 21:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/firefoxs-private-browsing-mode-upleveled-for-you/">Firefox’s )Nov 11 21:12
schestowitzThere are plenty of reasons why you might want to keep something you are doing on the web to yourself. You might be looking for a ring for your soon-to-be fiance, looking up what those mysterious skin rashes could be, or reading a salacious celebrity gossip blog. That’s where Private Browsing mode comes in handy. This year, we upleveled and added new advanced features to our Private Browsing mode. Before we share more about these new features we Nov 11 21:12
schestowitzwanted to share some of the misconceptions about Private Browsing. Nov 11 21:13
schestowitzOne of the top common myths about Private Browsing (in any major web browser) is that it makes you anonymous on the Internet. The Private Browsing mode on Chrome, Safari, Edge and Firefox are primarily designed to keep your activity private from other users on the same computer, but websites and Internet service providers can still gather information about your visit, even if you are not signed in. To learn more about other Common Myths, visit our Nov 11 21:13
schestowitzsite. You should know though, that Firefox offers something that other browsers don’t, which is advanced privacy protections. Read on to learn more about our unique tracking protections.Nov 11 21:13
schestowitz</p></blockquote></li>Nov 11 21:13
schestowitz<li><h5><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2021/11/11/mozilla-submits-comments-to-the-california-privacy-protection-agency/">Mozilla submits comments to the California Privacy Protection Agency - Open Policy &amp; Advocacy</a></h5>Nov 11 21:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.mozilla.org | Mozilla Advocacy - 2015 Plan - Open Policy & AdvocacyNov 11 21:13
schestowitz<blockquote><p>This week, Mozilla submitted comments in response to the California Privacy Protection Agency’s Invitation for Preliminary Comments on Proposed Rulemaking Under the California Privacy Rights Act (CPRA).Nov 11 21:13
schestowitzMozilla has long been a supporter of data privacy laws that empower people, including the trailblazing California privacy laws, California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) and California Privacy Rights Act (CPRA). We welcome the opportunity to offer feedback as California considers how to best evolve its privacy protections, and we support the progress made thus far, particularly as federal efforts languish — but there’s more to do.Nov 11 21:13
schestowitz</p></blockquote></li>Nov 11 21:13
DaemonFCYou mean the one that passed after Mozilla and Facebook and Comcast lobbied to water it down?Nov 11 21:13
schestowitzyesNov 11 21:14
DaemonFCThere were serious teeth in the CCPA, but now it's something that Microsoft Windows can "comply" with easily, and they just assume everyone is in California and it doesn't interfere with them at all, one bit.Nov 11 21:14
DaemonFCschestowitz, Big Business is trying to gut the Illinois BIPA too.Nov 11 21:15
schestowitzre mozilla and FBNov 11 21:15
schestowitzmind you,Nov 11 21:15
schestowitzthey hired several MANAGERS from BNov 11 21:15
schestowitzFBNov 11 21:15
schestowitzwhich I think mattersNov 11 21:15
DaemonFCFacebook losing lawsuits over BIPA over and over again is what compelled them to just delete all facial recognition data and be done with it.Nov 11 21:15
schestowitzit might help explain why FF is adjusted for the FB business mindsetNov 11 21:16
DaemonFCThey did not just announce this because they want to stop doing something bad.Nov 11 21:16
DaemonFCThey'll continue lobbying to weaken it and then when it doesn't help anyone anymore, they go back to collecting the data.Nov 11 21:16
DaemonFCYou never really win on something like this in a way where you can move on.Nov 11 21:17
DaemonFCschestowitz, There are matrix links in your repost.Nov 11 21:19
DaemonFCThat needs fixed.Nov 11 21:19
schestowitzDaemonFC: https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/microsoft-edge-protocol-competition.html#src=feedNov 11 21:20
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.ctrl.blog | Windows 11 blocks Edge browser competitors from opening linksNov 11 21:20
schestowitzjust inNov 11 21:20
schestowitzDaemonFC: those links are in yours tooNov 11 21:21
DaemonFCschestowitz, I think it's Daniel Alexsanderson that maintains Edge Deflector.Nov 11 21:21
DaemonFC"Oh good, the Vista SP 11 store. Hooray!Nov 11 21:22
DaemonFCThe OS that can’t get a file manager with 8 buttons to work right!"Nov 11 21:22
DaemonFCI'm seeing them as normal text, no link.Nov 11 21:22
DaemonFCIn private browsing mode too.Nov 11 21:22
schestowitzyou have invisible links thereNov 11 21:26
schestowitzin Wordpress.com, go to the mode with page sourceNov 11 21:26
schestowitzI will remove these links nowNov 11 21:26
schestowitznot sure what you make of https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/firefoxs-private-browsing-mode-upleveled-for-you/Nov 11 21:28
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.mozilla.org | Firefox’s Private Browsing mode upleveled for youNov 11 21:28
schestowitzbut I think I cannot figure out how to LEVERAGE an EFFECTIVE rebuttal to how it's just POSINGNov 11 21:29
schestowitzthey keep managing "privacy"Nov 11 21:29
schestowitzthat confuses people, at best...Nov 11 21:29
DaemonFCMicrosoft Edge as the default web browser for Windows (which naturally has a huge marketshare)Nov 11 21:29
DaemonFCWindows is huge, but people are fleeing it.Nov 11 21:29
schestowitzTrump: I'm the LEAST racist person in the world..Nov 11 21:29
schestowitzyeahNov 11 21:30
DaemonFCThe stopper has been removed and the bathtub is draining.Nov 11 21:30
schestowitzVista 11 is failingNov 11 21:30
schestowitzI did some posts about this latelyNov 11 21:30
DaemonFCPanicked knee jerk reactions to the Chromebook 10 years too late isn't going to help.Nov 11 21:30
schestowitzthey spam the video nowNov 11 21:30
schestowitzwith GOOGLEBOMBING of "Linux"Nov 11 21:30
schestowitzWindows AssNov 11 21:31
schestowitzbecause "LINUX" somethinhgNov 11 21:31
schestowitz(WSL they mean)Nov 11 21:31
DaemonFCIt's like someone at Microsoft hits the snooze button for 10 years and then realizes that a competitor has already won and it's over, so here's a rival Microsoft product that gets to 1.5% then fizzles.Nov 11 21:31
DaemonFCSome guy at Auto Zone told me he liked Windows Phone better than Android.Nov 11 21:31
DaemonFCNow you can't even get a Windows Phone.Nov 11 21:32
DaemonFCFor a while there, the extreme bargain basement MVNO carriers were snapping them upNov 11 21:33
schestowitzWIndows 'Phone'Nov 11 21:37
schestowitzI still rememeber 2020Nov 11 21:38
schestowitzWitih Windows Mobile/CE, IIRCNov 11 21:38
schestowitziPaqNov 11 21:38
schestowitzremember that one?Nov 11 21:38
schestowitzbloated, heavyNov 11 21:38
schestowitzwith some retarded version of "Office"Nov 11 21:38
schestowitzas if "office" is what people needed in their pocketsNov 11 21:38
schestowitzPalm OS did OK back then, then came blackberry and decent nokia phones with browsersNov 11 21:39
schestowitzlater hypePhone and AndroidNov 11 21:39
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Microsoft is beating their chests about how Windows 11 SE will let students run MS Office in "offline" mode.Nov 11 22:00
DaemonFCChromebooks let you edit documents like this.Nov 11 22:00
DaemonFCThey're competing against, what, the way Chromebooks were 6 years ago?Nov 11 22:01
DaemonFCDo they even go out and buy one to know what they're up against?Nov 11 22:01
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schestowitzDaemonFC: obv. notNov 11 23:47
schestowitzbut I don't keep abreast of itNov 11 23:47
schestowitzbecause, tbh, they're both junkNov 11 23:47
schestowitzthey give students RENTED platformsNov 11 23:47
schestowitzand that's no goodNov 11 23:47
schestowitzGoogle does it with GentooNov 11 23:47
schestowitzwhich means gnu/linux advocacy is NOT enoughNov 11 23:47
schestowitzwe need to talk about software FREEDOmNov 11 23:47
schestowitzMozilla: Firefox is OPENNov 11 23:48
schestowitz"here, source code"Nov 11 23:48
schestowitzexcept the DRMNov 11 23:48
schestowitzFirefox as a binary is not free softwareNov 11 23:48

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