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... and the opponent responds (in a letter dated 24 May 2021) to the EBA's interlocutory decision:

https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP04758381&lng=en&tab=doclist

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It will be very interesting to see how the EBA proceeds from here. Not only has the opponent not (explicitly) consented to the use of VICO for oral proceedings before the EBA, but they have requested postponement of the proceedings scheduled for 28 May AND raised further objections to the composition of the EBA.

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-register.epo.org | European Patent Register

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Whilst I do not find all of the opponent's new objections to be compelling, it seems to me that there is enough substance to their complaints to justify the EBA taking extraordinary measures to guarantee the (perception of) their independence for this case. It remains to be seen whether the EBA will take the bait ... though if they do not, then the persistence of objectively justifiable fears about the partiality of certain members of

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the EBA will cast a dark cloud over the public's perception of the independence of the EBA.

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http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-240521.html#tMay%2024%2004:50:20

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May 26 11:04

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May 26 11:04

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# really?? all of them???

May 26 11:04

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[06:15] <xxxxxxx> also, your article is completely wrong

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[06:15] <xxxxxxx> cancelling freenode is not the same as cancelling RMS

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[06:15] <schestowitz__> it's not the same

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[06:15] <xxxxxxx> andrew lee is a tremendous threat to free software

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[06:16] <schestowitz__> but there are some salient points

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[06:16] <xxxxxxx> the community cannot depend on freenode moving forward

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[06:17] <xxxxxxx> anyway, that is all, if you need something, reach me by email

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[06:17] <xxxxxxx> or ping me on OFTC

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[06:17] <schestowitz__> sure

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[06:17] <schestowitz__> what's the email btw?

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[06:17] <xxxxxxx> xxxxxxxx

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[06:17] <schestowitz__> thanks!

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[06:17] <schestowitz__> I will write more about freenode, as some people send me counter-info

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[06:18] <xxxxxxx> don't let yourself get duped by rasengan

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[06:18] <xxxxxxx> he is very persuasive

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[06:18] <xxxxxxx> the only place this network is going is to zero

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[06:19] <schestowitz__> if several networks co-exist, then maybe ok

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[06:19] <xxxxxxx> that's the whole point, there will never be eggs in one single basket ever again

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[06:19] <schestowitz__> good :-)

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[10:23] <xxxxxxx> xxx is my final contribution of analysis to this situation.

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[10:23] <xxxxxxx> do with it what you will

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[10:23] <xxxxxxx> this is not about cancel culture, this is about having someone utterly unfit at the wheel

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[11:26] <schestowitz__> maybe tomaw will still help out

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[11:26] <xxxxxxx> freenode is done, dude

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[11:26] <xxxxxxx> i'm not interested in babysitting the crown prince of korea, nor is any other project i've spoken to

May 26 11:12

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[11:26] <schestowitz__> I will link to your post

May 26 11:12

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[09:35] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx here are some logs

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[09:35] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx

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[09:35] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx this is Andrew Lee

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[09:35] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx

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[09:35] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx this is his employee

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[09:36] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx his employee attempts to bribe me numerous times

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[10:31] <schestowitz__> can some portions be published?

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[10:32] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx i mean, i don't care

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[10:32] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx what are they going to do

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[10:32] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx come to xxxx and poison my xxxx?

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[10:37] <schestowitz__> i am reading it slowly

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[10:38] <schestowitz__> you mention lilo :(

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[10:56] <schestowitz__> what's in xxxx btw?

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[10:57] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx among other things, a romantic interest

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[10:57] <schestowitz__> cool

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[10:58] <schestowitz__> wish I lived in a farm..

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[10:58] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx definitely not MSFT or AMZN

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[10:58] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx yeah its cool

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[10:58] <schestowitz__> alpine has promise

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[10:58] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx but i kinda want a break from it

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[10:58] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx yeah alpine ironically is more committed to free software than most GNU/Linux distributions

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[10:58] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx go figure that one out

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[10:58] <schestowitz__> makes sense

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[10:59] <schestowitz__> ibm is trashing things http://techrights.org/2021/05/12/ibm-squeezing-red-hat/

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[10:59] <schestowitz__> canonical promotes wsl

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | IBM is Destroying Red Hat, Squeezing Red Hat’s Work for Cash, Laying Off Staff, and Asking Staff to Resign | Techrights

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[10:59] <schestowitz__> suse... haha... remember we were boycottnovell

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[11:00] <schestowitz__> the employer of Andrew's bother is very immature

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[11:00] <schestowitz__> not the type of people I'd trust with a network

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[11:01] <schestowitz__> re the other issue

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[11:01] <schestowitz__> we're going through a 'reset' in FS at the moment

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[11:01] <schestowitz__> many people showed their wares, inc. Google and IBM

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[11:01] <schestowitz__> so you know who's who

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[11:02] <schestowitz__> also you get to see who's a fake 'journalist' and 'activist'

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[11:04] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx so something interesting i noticed

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[11:04] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx is that his employee talks about how they need freenode limited to exist

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[11:05] <schestowitz__> I am not done reading everything now. I won't be publishing but keeping an eye open and watching, hoping for amicable resolution. I might, in the future, bring up some bits if they help steer us towards justice

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[11:05] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx in order to donate money through it

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[11:07] <schestowitz__> if it is owned by a millionaire, with the goal of 'monetising', it's like donating to Zemlin and mates

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[11:14] <schestowitz__> *am now done (typo)

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[11:14] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx naw, LF Is far more legit than LTM

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[11:15] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx but either way i believe freenode should be managed by a reputable FOSS organization

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[11:15] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx not ... whatever this is

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[11:18] <schestowitz__> I agree

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[11:18] <schestowitz__> Andrew seems reasonable

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[11:18] <schestowitz__> need to delegate

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[11:19] <schestowitz__> no time to do freenode

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[11:19] <schestowitz__> should set up some governing struct

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[11:20] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx i think andrew has good intentions, but who knows

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[11:20] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx his employee on the other hand :D

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[11:20] <schestowitz__> techrights covered LTM before

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[11:21] <schestowitz__> his employee cannot keep a relationship, let alone run a network

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[11:21] <schestowitz__> This is indeed sad. Thank you for the headsup!

http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/vaccine-platforms-and-limited-global.html?showComment=1622025121450#c1016231846038170161

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Vaccine platforms and limited global production capacity: what is to be done? - The IPKat

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"Patents are not really the issue, sorry - in the vaccine field, a number of companies don't pursue patent protection in lower income/developing countries anyway. The issue really is one of technology and capability. Vaccines are complex products that require specialised facilities for production. Even for 'standard' technologies, some vaccines may take 1 to 2 years to manufacture. Much of this extended timeline is due to quality and

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safety testing at each stage. The patent debate and waiver discussion are a smokescreen. What developing countries need is investment in science and GMP manufacturing capabilities. Compulsory licensing and patent waivers will not solve anything. "