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techrights-bot | "Right now there are two groups of people with opinions on this matter. One group is appalled by the original report, because they have a number of serious concerns with the report." #perl #programming #division http://blogs.perl.org/users/leon_timmermans/2021/05/the-witch-and-the-witch-hunt.html | May 24 00:00 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Witch and the Witch-hunt | Leon Timmermans [blogs.perl.org] | May 24 00:00 | |
techrights-bot | #LinuxFoundation is to #Linux what artificial (lab-made) 'meat' is to meat. Or what 'soy milk' is to actual milk, with lactose and all... | May 24 00:03 |
techrights-bot | " #Stryde uses an #Arduino Nano Every at its core to store presets, display information, and select effects." https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/05/23/stryde-is-an-arduino-nano-every-powered-midi-preset-loader/ | May 24 00:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Stryde is an Arduino Nano Every-powered MIDI preset loader | Arduino Blog | May 24 00:03 | |
techrights-bot | DNS Over HTTPS: Next Step In Internet Privacy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr-bGhTP3IU but some supposed 'pioneers' of this send your requests to #surveillance companies worse than, e.g., your ISP, and even located OVERSEAS. I'm look at you, #google -funded #mozilla | May 24 00:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DNS Over HTTPS: Next Step In Internet Privacy - YouTube | May 24 00:05 | |
techrights-bot | I've renewed the TLS cert of #techrights for those who strictly insist on using HTTPS, but it is self-signed and please don't ask me to change this. I'm not outsourcing trust to the corrupt #linuxfoundation (LF LE) | May 24 00:07 |
stormchaser3000 | I don't get why centralized certificate authorities were ever a good idea | May 24 00:09 |
techrights-bot | Unpopular truth: #LetsEncrypt is an exercise of control over many sites and services. Whose control? Check where LE puts its code, #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware (PRISMHub), and check who LF fronts for. #Surveillance companies with MASSIVE Pentagon contracts (subsidies). | May 24 00:09 |
techrights-bot | #github : #ProprietarySoftware for exercising control over lots of #freesw devs: http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ #LetsEncrypt : let's outsource the keys to the United States, even for things outside the US. Same for #clownflare (for traffic). | May 24 00:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story About Microsoft’s Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights | May 24 00:10 | |
schestowitz | stormchaser3000: because your browser stops nagging | May 24 00:11 |
schestowitz | likely some Google-something browser | May 24 00:11 |
schestowitz | of Googlezilla | May 24 00:11 |
stormchaser3000 | ah | May 24 00:11 |
schestowitz | it's also not so much for you | May 24 00:11 |
MinceR | i guess the counterpart of googlezilla would be moogle | May 24 00:11 |
schestowitz | it's good for some other entities | May 24 00:11 |
schestowitz | it can enhance your privacy, sure | May 24 00:11 |
schestowitz | but at what cost? | May 24 00:11 |
stormchaser3000 | how would having a centralized public keyserver for https sites enhance one's privacy? | May 24 00:12 |
stormchaser3000 | I am sure there is a piece of the puzzle I am missing for sure | May 24 00:12 |
schestowitz | [08:15] <schestowitz__> http://techrights.org/2020/11/17/trust-models/ | May 24 00:13 |
schestowitz | [08:15] <schestowitz__> http://techrights.org/2020/11/07/free-privacy-lunch/ | May 24 00:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Regaining Control Over Infrastructure With Decentralisation and Trusted Encryption | Techrights | May 24 00:13 | |
schestowitz | [08:15] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- techrights.org | Let’s Encrypt is Garbage, Albeit It’s Disguised as ‘Free’ Privacy | Techrights | May 24 00:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Let’s Encrypt is Garbage, Albeit It’s Disguised as ‘Free’ Privacy | Techrights | May 24 00:13 | |
schestowitz | [08:15] <schestowitz__> this was just a year ago: http://techrights.org/2020/03/04/lets-ask-lets-encrypt/ | May 24 00:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Urges Readers to Ask the Linux Foundation’s Let’s Encrypt (Backed by Companies That Give the NSA Back Doors) Some Hard But Legitimate Questions | Techrights | May 24 00:13 | |
schestowitz | we went through this yesterdat | May 24 00:13 |
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schestowitz | you can read the publicly-posted IRC logs | May 24 00:13 |
stormchaser3000 | ok | May 24 00:14 |
*stormchaser3000 starts wondering if his own website should not even use https | May 24 00:14 | |
schestowitz | Oh, maybe not yet | May 24 00:14 |
schestowitz | not until 2am here | May 24 00:14 |
schestowitz | last log does not include that, as it ws past midnight http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220521.html#tMay%2022%2018:10:15 | May 24 00:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, May 22, 2021 | May 24 00:14 | |
stormchaser3000 | I don't see why I need to bother with https on my site... it doesn't have a login system or commenting system for articles I write | May 24 00:15 |
schestowitz | the above is around 8am today | May 24 00:15 |
schestowitz | well, sunday | May 24 00:15 |
stormchaser3000 | if someone wants to commend on an article I write, they can grab my public key and send me an encrypted E-Mail | May 24 00:15 |
stormchaser3000 | comment* | May 24 00:15 |
schestowitz | [00:15] <stormchaser3000> I don't see why I need to bother with https on my site... it doesn't have a login system or commenting system for articles I write | May 24 00:15 |
schestowitz | it helps monopoly | May 24 00:15 |
schestowitz | but that is a site perk fro monopolies | May 24 00:15 |
schestowitz | they raised the barrier to entry | May 24 00:15 |
schestowitz | many people nowadays get frustrated and give uo | May 24 00:16 |
schestowitz | crypto stuff is hard to grasp | May 24 00:16 |
schestowitz | so they outsource to wordpress.com, blogspot etc. | May 24 00:16 |
schestowitz | like Red Hat adding complexity to stuff | May 24 00:16 |
schestowitz | and then people just sigh and say, "let's buy annual support contract for peace of mind" | May 24 00:16 |
stormchaser3000 | which is odd considering how easy it is to learn html and build a website | May 24 00:16 |
schestowitz | it was | May 24 00:17 |
schestowitz | gemini is still easy | May 24 00:17 |
schestowitz | and it does self-signed keys | May 24 00:17 |
schestowitz | nothing would complain | May 24 00:17 |
schestowitz | 85% of geminispace is self-signed | May 24 00:17 |
schestowitz | 13% LE | May 24 00:17 |
schestowitz | 2% something else | May 24 00:17 |
stormchaser3000 | O.o | May 24 00:17 |
stormchaser3000 | fascinating | May 24 00:17 |
schestowitz | HTML used to have lower entry barrier | May 24 00:17 |
schestowitz | I did HTML when I was about 15 | May 24 00:18 |
schestowitz | now it's hilariously bad | May 24 00:18 |
schestowitz | 10 CSS file, JS frameworks all over the plae | May 24 00:18 |
schestowitz | obfuscated code for "efficiency" | May 24 00:18 |
stormchaser3000 | I suppose with the advent of JavaScript being a social requirement to "develop" a "website" thing have become more difficult | May 24 00:18 |
schestowitz | here, have 10 MB of fonts | May 24 00:18 |
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schestowitz | I removed newlines to save 100 bytes :-) | May 24 00:18 |
stormchaser3000 | my instructor in my web development class (college was such a massive waste of time for me) told me that code obfuscation was a "good" reason for "minification" of JavaScript code | May 24 00:19 |
schestowitz | 8 years ago I learned people were starting to literally send FONTS to visitors | May 24 00:20 |
schestowitz | even if they just visit 1 (ONE!) page | May 24 00:20 |
stormchaser3000 | sending fonts... why? | May 24 00:20 |
schestowitz | I was dumbfounded | May 24 00:20 |
schestowitz | like, WHAT DA FUNK!! | May 24 00:20 |
schestowitz | why? | May 24 00:20 |
stormchaser3000 | why not just specify the font family and a backup in-case it doesn't exist on the user's system? | May 24 00:20 |
schestowitz | "because my visitors need to see EXACTLY WHAT I SEE!!: | May 24 00:20 |
*stormchaser3000 facepalms at the state of "modern" software "development" | May 24 00:21 | |
schestowitz | those are not light fonts either | May 24 00:21 |
schestowitz | proprietary witjh kerning and hinting | May 24 00:21 |
schestowitz | 1MB is you are LUCKY | May 24 00:21 |
schestowitz | usually a lot more | May 24 00:21 |
stormchaser3000 | wow | May 24 00:21 |
schestowitz | with many chars you will never use; useless glyphs flooding the network | May 24 00:21 |
schestowitz | yeah, sure, CNN, send me thousands of mandarin and hangul stuff so I can read 4 paragraphs about how awesome Obama was | May 24 00:22 |
schestowitz | (in English) | May 24 00:22 |
stormchaser3000 | I really can't believe that I went to college under the impression that I needed it in order to get a job | May 24 00:23 |
schestowitz | gemini we host from home | May 24 00:23 |
schestowitz | it's about 10kb per page for long articles | May 24 00:23 |
stormchaser3000 | beause this sort of thing is the garbage I was taught | May 24 00:23 |
schestowitz | i.e. 100 requests would be 1MB | May 24 00:23 |
schestowitz | so it scales well | May 24 00:23 |
stormchaser3000 | web development and Android development | May 24 00:23 |
schestowitz | 'development' | May 24 00:23 |
schestowitz | [mini me meme] | May 24 00:23 |
schestowitz | I did Android development | May 24 00:23 |
schestowitz | in Eclipse | May 24 00:23 |
schestowitz | with opencv | May 24 00:24 |
schestowitz | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ | May 24 00:24 |
stormchaser3000 | Now days the barrier to entry for writing an Android "app" is so high that the only viable soltuion for beginners is basically android studio | May 24 00:24 |
stormchaser3000 | a proprietary fork of intellij IDEA for the x86_64 architecture | May 24 00:25 |
stormchaser3000 | meaning I can't write a piece of software for Android on my Pi 400 or my Pinebook Pro | May 24 00:25 |
stormchaser3000 | also because the sdk tools are x86_64 only | May 24 00:26 |
schestowitz | yes, I know | May 24 00:26 |
schestowitz | they abstract it | May 24 00:26 |
schestowitz | on top of bloat | May 24 00:26 |
schestowitz | and you then become reliant on it | May 24 00:26 |
schestowitz | until they pull the rug | May 24 00:26 |
stormchaser3000 | exactly | May 24 00:26 |
schestowitz | then you have worthless code that won't run on anything anymore | May 24 00:27 |
schestowitz | I still use PalmOS stuff | May 24 00:27 |
schestowitz | but some packages aren't well maintained anymore | May 24 00:27 |
schestowitz | like jpilot and kpilot | May 24 00:27 |
techrights-bot | Expect more #epo #greenwashing puff pieces such as this one in days to come https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/05/technology-enabling-energy-transition/ paid-for propaganda to obscure the real scandals: http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/illusion-of-peace-in-haar/ | May 24 00:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.weforum.org | 4 charts show how tech is driving green energy trends | World Economic Forum | May 24 00:28 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 18: Promoting the Illusion of Peace and Haar-mony | Techrights | May 24 00:28 | |
stormchaser3000 | on a somewhat related note, if computers are becoming such integral parts of many individuals lives, there should be classes to educate young students (k - 12) on how to operate a program a computer via practical application of basic computing concepts such as how to write simple software | May 24 00:30 |
stormchaser3000 | operate a computer | May 24 00:30 |
schestowitz | yes, that's an objective | May 24 00:30 |
stormchaser3000 | * | May 24 00:31 |
schestowitz | they teach applications, I think, de facto training | May 24 00:31 |
schestowitz | today I worked on my single-board computer | May 24 00:31 |
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schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/monitoring-ipfs/ | May 24 00:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Using a Single-Board Computer to Monitor IPFS | Techrights | May 24 00:31 | |
schestowitz | I still need to borrow a soldering gun, the lock-downs have prevented this since last year | May 24 00:32 |
stormchaser3000 | I was taught how to write algorithms by my instructor, not why those algorithms worked or how they could be useful in real world situations | May 24 00:32 |
stormchaser3000 | he also taught the C programming language as if it were an object-oriented langauge | May 24 00:32 |
stormchaser3000 | I am so frustrated with how awful my college education has been | May 24 00:33 |
stormchaser3000 | the only class I found super interesting was my creative writing class | May 24 00:33 |
schestowitz | ah, I see... | May 24 00:34 |
schestowitz | well... some of us don't do "apps" and Android | May 24 00:34 |
schestowitz | I had my share of tat | May 24 00:34 |
schestowitz | that | May 24 00:34 |
schestowitz | android is "move fast, break everything" | May 24 00:34 |
schestowitz | the code becomes worthless after a few years | May 24 00:34 |
stormchaser3000 | yep | May 24 00:34 |
stormchaser3000 | the worst part of all though... I never learned analytical thinking as it applies to writing software | May 24 00:35 |
stormchaser3000 | I only went to this college because a banker was willing to pay all the graduating seniors from my high school to go there for two years | May 24 00:36 |
stormchaser3000 | I wish I had turned down the offer | May 24 00:36 |
schestowitz | best learning comes from experience | May 24 00:38 |
schestowitz | not syllabus | May 24 00:38 |
stormchaser3000 | I really don't care if I would have had to work at a retail location for a couple years while I trained myself. I would have preferred that to getting a poor quality education | May 24 00:38 |
stormchaser3000 | agreed | May 24 00:38 |
schestowitz | but degrees help with employment | May 24 00:38 |
schestowitz | I hardly use my degrees at all | May 24 00:38 |
schestowitz | not even for employment | May 24 00:38 |
techrights-bot | #Linux 5.13-rc3 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151518 #Kernel #TuxMachines | May 24 00:39 |
stormchaser3000 | that is what I have heard in general. People are able to get decent programming jobs if they know what they are doing, not if they have a piece of paper saying they went to college for two years | May 24 00:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.13-rc3 | Tux Machines | May 24 00:39 | |
stormchaser3000 | while the automated resume scanning systems may prefer a college degree, personal connections and recommendations are far more powerful from what I have seen | May 24 00:40 |
schestowitz | that too | May 24 00:40 |
techrights-bot | "As everyone should know already, #privacy on an #Android phone, in general, is pretty much a joke." The joke if you, too. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/google-play-spotlight-gasbuddy-grindr-or-how-i-informed-facebook-using-android-f-droid-spotlight-trackercontrol/ | May 24 00:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Google Play Spotlight: GasBuddy, Grindr, or how I informed Facebook using Android. F-Droid Spotlight: TrackerControl. – BaronHK's Rants | May 24 00:41 | |
techrights-bot | "As everyone should know already, #privacy on an #Android phone, in general, is pretty much a joke." The joke is you, too. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/google-play-spotlight-gasbuddy-grindr-or-how-i-informed-facebook-using-android-f-droid-spotlight-trackercontrol/ | May 24 00:41 |
baronhk[m]1 | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/failure-is-not-an-option-it-comes-with-every-samsung-galaxy-phone-thanks-to-microsoft-and-t-mobile-swap-out-the-photo-gallery-with-f-droid/ | May 24 00:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Failure is not an option, it comes with every Samsung Galaxy phone. (Thanks to Microsoft and T-Mobile.) Swap out the photo gallery with F-Droid. – BaronHK's Rants | May 24 00:41 | |
techrights-bot | "Retro gaming is a big part of my life. So, when Sylvain Gadrat (aka sgadrat or Roger Bidon) contacted me last week to show the new playable character of his Nes game −Pepper− I had suddenly a large grin like a Cheshire cat and I started to see rainbows." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article845/derivation-pepper-in-super-tilt-bro-nes-game | May 24 00:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | Derivation: Pepper in Super Tilt Bro (Nes game) - David Revoy | May 24 00:42 | |
techrights-bot | Suddenly nobody talks about the #crimeMinister of #israel failing to actually form a government and having to go to prison for his many crimes. #palestine as his 'collateral damage'. His COVID facade with 30-year secrets ran out of stream? https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/2988311/israel-hamas-ceasefire-holds-un-launch-gaza-aid-appeal | May 24 00:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-english.aawsat.com | Israel-Hamas Ceasefire Holds, UN to Launch Gaza Aid Appeal | Asharq AL-awsat | May 24 00:45 | |
techrights-bot | Misconception/misuse of the term 'ownership' from litigation firms-funded liars who call ideas "assets", call #patents "rights" (complete BS), and just about everything -- even life and nature -- "property" (slave-owning mentality of privileged sociopaths) https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/question-property-final.html | May 24 00:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Question 11 from my Property Law Final Exam. | May 24 00:47 | |
techrights-bot | So some US universities (called "colleges") are run by and employ as teachers/lecturers pawns funded by #patent #litigation firms. No conflict of interest there at all... | May 24 00:49 |
baronhk[m]1 | Bonus: Just after I posted this, I read that Spamsung completely abandoned the S8/S8+, which were the phone of 2017. Four years in, you cannot safely continue to use the phone, whether it works or not, unless you figure out a way to unlock the bootloader and install an unofficial ROM that's in whatever state it's in. Nice to see that Spamsung loves e-waste. | May 24 00:52 |
baronhk[m]1 | Edited: "Nice to see that Spamsung loves e-waste as much as Microsoft loves Linux patent aggression. Like a fat kid loves cake." | May 24 00:53 |
baronhk[m]1 | It's the time honored tradition. If the old model kept working indefinitely, how would they sell the new model? Most of these phones are barely different except that they keep getting more expensive and dropping widely used features to help them force the Clown on the user. | May 24 00:55 |
techrights-bot | Nefarious data brokers put an exceptionally high price (one might say "bounty") on data of those who are better at #privacy and are thus harder to 'figure out' and sell out, in bulk. Look what #system1 did to #startpage and #waterfox ... disgraceful. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Startpage | May 24 00:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - Techrights | May 24 00:55 | |
schestowitz | baronhk[m]1: the Clown :-) | May 24 00:57 |
schestowitz | the clown is off-lown | May 24 00:57 |
schestowitz | https://www.itnews.com.au/news/failed-dns-server-restarts-caused-salesforce-outage-564893 | May 24 00:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itnews.com.au | Failed DNS server restarts caused Salesforce outage - Networking - Software - Digital & Disruption - iTnews | May 24 00:57 | |
baronhk[m]1 | "Apple realized that the iPod Classic had to go because as long as people could keep dropping MP3s on that, using a flip phone to make calls, and buying a dedicated GPS unit for their car, they were eating into their own sales of a much more expensive market. Now, the deluxe iPhone is $1,649 and it only lasts a few years between replacements. Almost every app costs you money somehow. Sometimes a staggering amount. | May 24 00:59 |
baronhk[m]1 | Almost nobody is better off with this." | May 24 00:59 |
techrights-bot | #microsoft 2009 http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Microsoft__Wake_Up_and_Smell_Defeat_.ogg | May 24 01:00 |
baronhk[m]1 | The carriers love them because a data plan is almost twice as expensive as a basic phone line. | May 24 01:00 |
techrights-bot | Samba geek on why #freesw http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Why_Free_Software__.ogg #fsf #oldvideo | May 24 01:01 |
baronhk[m]1 | (Then certain ones, like T-Mobile, will sell you unlimited data that doesn't really work anywhere.) | May 24 01:01 |
schestowitz | no such thing as unlimited | May 24 01:01 |
schestowitz | but if you max up the capacity and do it 24/7, you can calculate the real cap | May 24 01:02 |
schestowitz | assume they let you get there at all | May 24 01:02 |
schestowitz | at 1MB per second you can do 3.6GB/hour | May 24 01:02 |
schestowitz | Techrights HTTP is average over 3mb/sec this past week | May 24 01:02 |
schestowitz | so over 10GB/hour | May 24 01:03 |
schestowitz | 1.62TB in 6 days, 9 hours | May 24 01:03 |
schestowitz | if the ISPs allow high throughput for crap like netflix, you can go higher than this | May 24 01:04 |
schestowitz | even just to mess with them | May 24 01:04 |
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baronhk[m]1 | schestowitz: I was glad that Psychology Today finally ran an article dismissing the idea that someone is dangerous because they aren't on Facebook. | May 24 01:10 |
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baronhk[m]1 | They went further and said that being an excessive user of Facebook is associated with Dark Triad personality types. | May 24 01:11 |
baronhk[m]1 | Apparently, most pirated APKs actually remove these tracking libraries. | May 24 01:13 |
baronhk[m]1 | As well as turning on all of the premium features that are in the app. | May 24 01:13 |
baronhk[m]1 | I noticed that apparently the only server-side difference with Spotify Premium is Very High Quality and Download (still DRM'd, you can just listen without an active connection). | May 24 01:14 |
baronhk[m]1 | The pirates can enable seeking and get rid of all the ads and enable play the actual song instead of "shuffle mode" and "radio" only. | May 24 01:14 |
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AdmFubar | have you seen this? https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/05/22/0049218/do-you-own-a-motorcycle-airbag-if-you-have-to-pay-extra-to-inflate-it?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed | May 24 02:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | Do You Own a Motorcycle Airbag if You Have to Pay Extra to Inflate It? - Slashdot | May 24 02:16 | |
AdmFubar | https://apple.slashdot.org/story/21/05/21/209248/tim-cook-says-he-doesnt-remember-how-much-google-pays-for-search-deal-as-he-plays-innocent-in-epic-v-apple-trial?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed | May 24 02:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apple.slashdot.org | Tim Cook Says He Doesn't Remember How Much Google Pays for Search Deal As He Plays Innocent in Epic v Apple Trial - Slashdot | May 24 02:18 | |
baronhk[m]1 | Like all good criminals, "I don't remember, I don't recall, I have no recollection of that." | May 24 02:21 |
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baronhk[m]1 | https://forum.f-droid.org/t/welcome-a-new-fennec-f-droid/11113 | May 24 03:07 |
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baronhk[m]1 | "Mozilla now tracks you even more actively using proprietary 3rd party services. I removed all tracking I found. (Firebase, Adjust and Leanplum libraries were replaced with stubs, so some analyzers can erroneously report their presence in the APK.)" | May 24 03:07 |
baronhk[m]1 | schestowitz: Mozilla is turning off NNTP newsgroups and deleting everything and moving the mailing lists over to Google Groups. | May 24 03:14 |
XRevan86 | https://nitter.cc/plainoldchair/status/1396645587966205953 cc: CrystalMath, MinceR | May 24 03:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Rapid-Onset Hyrule Historia (@plainoldchair): "they claimed it meant "corporate linux" and when asked since when "woke" means "corporate", I got this. You heard it here first: Microsoft bowed to the ~SJWs~ to kill Linux." | nitter | May 24 03:23 | |
XRevan86 | Don't know where that's from, but I see familiar faces and I immediately share | May 24 03:24 |
MinceR | bowed? | May 24 03:24 |
MinceR | i don't know where they got that from | May 24 03:24 |
MinceR | but it's ok, SJWs had reading comprehension issues for ages | May 24 03:24 |
MinceR | i see this luser is spewing lots of classic SJW nonsense | May 24 03:25 |
MinceR | is that what libera.chat wants to be? | May 24 03:25 |
MinceR | the drama is on freenode/#freenode-policy-feedback btw | May 24 03:26 |
MinceR | this luser is hallucinating pretty fiercely | May 24 03:28 |
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kingoffrance | agree. "bowed". and "corporate" is just a knee-jerk catchphrase it seems (which "side" isn't "corporate"? ) | May 24 03:30 |
MinceR | i am not corporate | May 24 03:31 |
MinceR | the independent developers that made free software great are not corporate | May 24 03:31 |
kingoffrance | i mean foundations, legal entities, etc. | May 24 03:31 |
kingoffrance | giving to LF is more "corporate" | May 24 03:31 |
baronhk[m]1 | "Hate speech" | May 24 03:32 |
baronhk[m]1 | LOL@ "IRC is 20 years behind the rest of the internet and is white male dominated." | May 24 03:32 |
MinceR | LF is so corporate they kicked out all their non-corporate members | May 24 03:32 |
baronhk[m]1 | I think they are committing hate speech against white males. | May 24 03:32 |
MinceR | indeed | May 24 03:33 |
MinceR | but it's the "woke" thing to do | May 24 03:33 |
MinceR | so it's ok | May 24 03:33 |
MinceR | you see, racism and sexism are not the problem, but whom you pick as your targets | May 24 03:33 |
kingoffrance | really, to be alive you need: 1) animation 2) corpse so everyone is "corporate" in that sense. and the dead are *just* corporate. and religions have their own definitions of "alive". point being, the "corporate or not" is largely red herring | May 24 03:34 |
MinceR | lol | May 24 03:34 |
XRevan86 | It's almost impressive how incapable the people are at understanding what the people with a different opinion are talking about. Maybe it's the lack of context. | May 24 03:34 |
kingoffrance | ^ | May 24 03:35 |
kingoffrance | laziness | May 24 03:35 |
MinceR | society is increasingly tribal | May 24 03:35 |
kingoffrance | ^ | May 24 03:35 |
XRevan86 | I feel the weight of not understanding most of what anyone's even talking about. | May 24 03:35 |
MinceR | on that channel, and in connection with the current drama, people have tried real hard to sort people they disagreed with into the tribe they hate | May 24 03:35 |
MinceR | hence accusations of "trumpism" | May 24 03:35 |
kingoffrance | ^ | May 24 03:35 |
kingoffrance | sorry lol | May 24 03:35 |
kingoffrance | couldnt agree more | May 24 03:36 |
kingoffrance | if you lack info, "closest approximation" in their heads perhaps | May 24 03:36 |
MinceR | media have also been reorganized so that most of it is echo chambers catering to a particular tribe | May 24 03:36 |
MinceR | people of different tribes have different "news" and "facts" | May 24 03:36 |
kingoffrance | i'll just "ding ding ding" and stop "^" lol | May 24 03:36 |
baronhk[m]1 | Tucker Carlson had the "Chicken Lover" on as a guest after the CDC told people not to kiss chickens. | May 24 03:36 |
baronhk[m]1 | I liked it better when it was a joke in South Park. | May 24 03:37 |
baronhk[m]1 | I wonder how many people are kissing chickens and getting salmonella that the CDC had to say this. | May 24 03:37 |
XRevan86 | Hell is Other People | May 24 03:38 |
MinceR | i was hoping we could have free software | May 24 03:38 |
baronhk[m]1 | MinceR: Mitchell Baker is outsourcing everything to Google and Microsoft. Well, not everything. They're packing Firefox Android full of tracking libraries. | May 24 03:38 |
MinceR | but i suspect in the end we will have some sort of SJW software posing as free and people trying to do actual free software painted as right-wingers | May 24 03:38 |
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baronhk[m]1 | For a long time, they refused to support iPhones at all "because it wouldn't really be Firefox anymore" but now they just quietly ship an inferior version for the iPhone which usually doesn't even have access to the latest WebKit APIs, which themselves have been held back several years to avoid "app developers" from running off and making progressive web apps that bypass the app store and Apple's fleecing of the | May 24 03:40 |
baronhk[m]1 | users/developers. | May 24 03:40 |
baronhk[m]1 | Now they quietly just ship a gimpy version of something calling itself "Firefox" for that platform. | May 24 03:40 |
kingoffrance | other way to say that: if you get rid of all corporatism, you are debating spirits/religion at that point | May 24 03:41 |
MinceR | they stopped caring about firefox being firefox | May 24 03:41 |
MinceR | kingoffrance: i'm more concerned with the type of person referred to as a "suit" and the sort of things they do | May 24 03:41 |
kingoffrance | yeah, i "get" some of what they mean so dont mean to split hairs, but accuracy slowly dwindles if i dont say anything | May 24 03:42 |
kingoffrance | agree on that too | May 24 03:42 |
kingoffrance | GIGO | May 24 03:42 |
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kingoffrance | the stuff that gets aired seems false dichotomies, so dig for nuance i suppose | May 24 03:48 |
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kingoffrance | what i was trying to get at is corporations are based on expanding/abstracting real people. so if people forget this, they are liable to drift off into absurdities | May 24 04:00 |
kingoffrance | horse and cart thing, one depends on other, foundation | May 24 04:01 |
kingoffrance | OO-wise maybe inheritance from a base class with overloaded methods if you will lol | May 24 04:02 |
CrystalMath | schestowitz: rasengan put Ariadne into the staff | May 24 04:03 |
MinceR | it's a legal fiction :> | May 24 04:03 |
CrystalMath | was this a smart move? | May 24 04:03 |
MinceR | we'll find out | May 24 04:03 |
MinceR | if it wasn't, maybe we'll move :> | May 24 04:03 |
rasengan | It's a good move. ;) | May 24 04:03 |
rasengan | Ariadne has been developing FOSS and has a deep passion for freenode and FOSS, including developing atheme, the services freenode was based on. | May 24 04:04 |
CrystalMath | tbh, i have nothing concretely bad to say about her | May 24 04:05 |
CrystalMath | but i'm waiting for schestowitz | May 24 04:05 |
CrystalMath | rasengan: personally i'm concerned that she said that some old staff will be returning | May 24 04:29 |
rasengan | Old staff? | May 24 04:30 |
rasengan | I think she means much older staff than the staff that many are concerned about! | May 24 04:30 |
CrystalMath | oh, from before tomaw, jess, fuchs, ...? | May 24 04:31 |
CrystalMath | i mean, before they came along | May 24 04:31 |
CrystalMath | i don't really remember... | May 24 04:31 |
CrystalMath | it was too long ago, i joined the network in 2008 | May 24 04:32 |
MinceR | hopefully not RichiH | May 24 04:34 |
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CrystalMath | MinceR: yes, that would be bad | May 24 04:35 |
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CrystalMath | rasengan: another point of concern is that Ariadne seems to want to establish stricter controls of freedom of speech than there were a week ago | May 24 04:45 |
CrystalMath | rasengan: i trust you, but i just hope that Ariadne will not be writing the policies herself | May 24 04:46 |
baronhk[m]1 | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/24/mozilla-outsources-newsgroups-to-google-development-to-microsoft-github-and-stuffs-proprietary-tracking-into-firefox-for-android-the-user-experience-is-falling-apart/ | May 24 04:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Mozilla outsources newsgroups to Google, development to Microsoft GitHub, and stuffs proprietary tracking into Firefox for Android. The user experience is falling apart. – BaronHK's Rants | May 24 04:46 | |
Ariadne | CrystalMath: oh can it | May 24 04:46 |
Ariadne | CrystalMath: i don't care about what channels do | May 24 04:46 |
baronhk[m]1 | I miss the Debian that had IceWeasel and told Mozilla to go fuck their trademark policy, honestly. | May 24 04:46 |
CrystalMath | Ariadne: okay, i don't really know what your stance is tbh | May 24 04:46 |
CrystalMath | Ariadne: you seem to be vague about it | May 24 04:47 |
Ariadne | my stance is that #stormfront.org is offtopic on freenode | May 24 04:47 |
CrystalMath | what about ##rightwing | May 24 04:47 |
CrystalMath | (not sure if that is real) | May 24 04:47 |
CrystalMath | okay, it's not | May 24 04:48 |
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CrystalMath | Ariadne: that silence is concerning | May 24 04:49 |
baronhk[m]1 | I'm right-wing, I suppose, in the sense that I think you lose the right to protest when it's involving someone who tried to throw the car in reverse and run over the cops and/or you start burning down buildings. | May 24 04:49 |
Ariadne | i have | May 24 04:49 |
Ariadne | 1000000 people asking me shit | May 24 04:49 |
Ariadne | please be patient | May 24 04:49 |
Ariadne | ##rightwing is fine | May 24 04:49 |
CrystalMath | ah, understood | May 24 04:49 |
rasengan | CrystalMath: We're not for censorship. | May 24 04:49 |
baronhk[m]1 | This is probably the sort of comment schestowitz worries would cost us the entire room if it went to Libera Chat. | May 24 04:49 |
CrystalMath | rasengan: thank you, that is clear | May 24 04:49 |
Ariadne | i'm not for censoring people, but obviously there are limits | May 24 04:50 |
CrystalMath | sorry for doubting | May 24 04:50 |
Ariadne | we're not going to let hate groups or terrorist groups or whatever use the network, in fact, we can't under UK law | May 24 04:50 |
MinceR | lol | May 24 04:50 |
CrystalMath | i never thought otherwise, it's just that when someone says "there are limits" that doesn't by itself clarify things | May 24 04:50 |
baronhk[m]1 | They'd say I was a privileged white male, which has had the benefit of....having the police threaten to shoot him a couple of times, apparently. | May 24 04:50 |
Ariadne | CrystalMath: i'm a goddamn libertarian, i'm not interested in censoring anything | May 24 04:50 |
baronhk[m]1 | Yes siree, born with a silver spoon in my mouth. | May 24 04:51 |
CrystalMath | you know, like i could say "there are limits" and then reveal some very tiny limits | May 24 04:51 |
CrystalMath | but i won't waste your time anymore with this topic, i understand | May 24 04:51 |
baronhk[m]1 | You know, I don't like the cops, but if you want to not die you kind of need to do that thing those folks with the guns pointed at you ask for. | May 24 04:52 |
CrystalMath | baronhk[m]1: the cops here got robbed a few days ago | May 24 04:52 |
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CrystalMath | the police station | May 24 04:52 |
MinceR | lol | May 24 04:52 |
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baronhk[m]1 | Last time the police had me at gunpoint it was like 8 or 9 of them at 3 in the morning. | May 24 04:52 |
CrystalMath | baronhk[m]1: america is crazy :P | May 24 04:53 |
CrystalMath | i've never had that happen to me | May 24 04:53 |
Ariadne | CrystalMath: i'm just here because i realize that there's going to be 3 networks, and i know how to make sure things run smoothly | May 24 04:53 |
CrystalMath | Ariadne: freenode, libera, and OFTC? | May 24 04:54 |
baronhk[m]1 | The Democrats are passing all sorts of "police reform" laws that are not going to help people who follow the laws. | May 24 04:54 |
Ariadne | CrystalMath: right | May 24 04:54 |
baronhk[m]1 | What's going to happen is that people who are armed career criminals are going to figure out how they can get the upper hand using all of these new laws. | May 24 04:54 |
baronhk[m]1 | The cops will just go right on killing as many white men as ever because nobody protests. | May 24 04:54 |
CrystalMath | baronhk[m]1: then maybe some day your local police station will be robbed too :P | May 24 04:55 |
baronhk[m]1 | Probably. | May 24 04:58 |
baronhk[m]1 | Cheaper than letting them set fire to everything and rob everything they don't set fire to. | May 24 04:58 |
baronhk[m]1 | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/24/eventually-migrating-back-to-gnu-linux-on-a-recent-lenovo-thinkbook/ | May 24 05:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Eventually migrating back to GNU/Linux on a recent Lenovo ThinkBook. – BaronHK's Rants | May 24 05:24 | |
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baronhk[m]1 | Mozilla should have started their own search engine years ago. | May 24 07:15 |
baronhk[m]1 | They'd probably be fairly popular considering that, at one time, they had almost half of all web users and could have defaulted to themselves for search, and been their own ad network. | May 24 07:16 |
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schestowitz | [04:03] <CrystalMath> schestowitz: rasengan put Ariadne into the staff | May 24 07:17 |
schestowitz | good! | May 24 07:17 |
baronhk[m]1 | Instead, they renew their search deal every few years, Google gives them about half of what they got last time, and things keep rolling along. Slower, until there's nothing left. | May 24 07:18 |
schestowitz | what is 'llf'? | May 24 07:19 |
schestowitz | LiLo Foundation? | May 24 07:19 |
schestowitz | baronhk[m]1: Mozilla can save Google lots of money in antitrust fines | May 24 07:19 |
schestowitz | by reiterating Google not being a monopoly | May 24 07:20 |
schestowitz | while Google pays them to make a 'rival' | May 24 07:20 |
schestowitz | that's hard-linked to Google in the address bar | May 24 07:20 |
schestowitz | Google is a different kind of monopoly | May 24 07:20 |
baronhk[m]1 | "They could leave Chrome any time they want." | May 24 07:20 |
schestowitz | nowhere as harmful as some others | May 24 07:20 |
baronhk[m]1 | Basically. | May 24 07:20 |
schestowitz | BTW: | May 24 07:20 |
schestowitz | I prefer chrome monopoly | May 24 07:20 |
schestowitz | or monoculture | May 24 07:21 |
schestowitz | to what we had with MSIE | May 24 07:21 |
schestowitz | Remember ActiveX | May 24 07:21 |
schestowitz | or Windows Media Player/Video in side pages? | May 24 07:21 |
baronhk[m]1 | Yes, sites handing out WMV files. | May 24 07:21 |
schestowitz | Those were dark times, the browser was used to cement OS monopolies | May 24 07:21 |
baronhk[m]1 | You can use whatever you want underneath Firefox or Chrome and it's almost the same experience. | May 24 07:22 |
schestowitz | hmmm.... seems like BT sent another silent firmware update | May 24 07:22 |
schestowitz | 2 nights ago | May 24 07:22 |
schestowitz | seems to have fixed what they broke silently a month ago | May 24 07:22 |
schestowitz | New: | May 24 07:26 |
schestowitz | "According to some folks, Freenode's time is up. But is this yet another example of the FOSS community overreacting? " | May 24 07:26 |
schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVdQp3FbEFg | May 24 07:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Freenode sky is FALLING - YouTube | May 24 07:27 | |
baronhk[m]1 | It could be. | May 24 07:27 |
baronhk[m]1 | Remember that SJWs will make hay out of anything in order to demand huge changes. | May 24 07:27 |
baronhk[m]1 | Then when the dust settles, they control the new forum and can impose CoCs where they wouldn't have been allowed before. | May 24 07:28 |
kingoffrance | baronhk[m]1, re: "mozilla should've started a search engine" yeah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMOZ and ditto (where is stuff hosted now? github?) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozdev.org | May 24 07:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | DMOZ - Wikipedia | May 24 07:35 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | mozdev.org - Wikipedia | May 24 07:35 | |
baronhk[m]1 | dmoz was still during Netscape years. | May 24 07:35 |
kingoffrance | yeah, i just remember the name | May 24 07:36 |
baronhk[m]1 | I meant they should have kickstarted a more modern one when they had lots of users and cash to throw around. | May 24 07:36 |
kingoffrance | sure, just mean there was precedent somewhat | May 24 07:36 |
kingoffrance | search engines arguably killed those types of "listings" | May 24 07:36 |
kingoffrance | but when trying to find it, i saw business stuff still likes "curated" type stuff | May 24 07:36 |
schestowitz | abuse of them did tooo | May 24 07:36 |
kingoffrance | or business people debate whether SEO is worth getting listed on those types of things or not | May 24 07:37 |
kingoffrance | same can be said aol re: winamp, streaming video, gnutella too, etc. | May 24 07:38 |
baronhk[m]1 | ddg's results have gotten much better recenty. | May 24 07:38 |
baronhk[m]1 | *recently | May 24 07:38 |
kingoffrance | dmoz would sometimes come up when i searched for obscure stuff | May 24 07:39 |
kingoffrance | as in probably dead links, and then id go to archive.org wayback | May 24 07:40 |
kingoffrance | so, just 3 short steps lol | May 24 07:41 |
schestowitz | baronhk[m]1: financial results? | May 24 07:48 |
schestowitz | you know who pays... | May 24 07:48 |
schestowitz | the same people who blast freenode right now don't seem to mind DDG doing vastly worse things | May 24 07:48 |
schestowitz | and being controlled by companies that spy | May 24 07:49 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ | May 24 07:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights | May 24 07:49 | |
schestowitz | http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2021-May-24.html.en#2021-May-24-08:46:51 | May 24 07:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.netfort.gr.jp | memtest86+ did not work on my machine. | May 24 07:55 | |
schestowitz | "memtest86+ did not work on my machine. Looking at the changelog the version was last updated in 2014. Checked their website and apparently there was a new version last year. Might be worth a try. I saw at least some code to handle memory modules with memory more than 32GB." | May 24 07:55 |
schestowitz | is 32GB of RAM enough to run Vista 10? | May 24 07:55 |
psydroid | soon enough it won't be, so we can enjoy more "progress" | May 24 07:58 |
schestowitz | I heard that something Vista 10 boots successfully | May 24 08:00 |
schestowitz | and you can get some work done on it... for a while | May 24 08:00 |
schestowitz | It took BT one whole month (yes, a month!) to fix the seriously bad bugs they introduced with botched firmware updates, silently imposed remotely on hubs to make home networks mutually inaccessible in most scenarios | May 24 08:00 |
psydroid | 8 GB was stretching it on my laptop, so I put 32 GB and an additional SSD in it. As of last year Vista 10 lives in a VM with 12 GB that I only touch if something really can't be done on the Debian host | May 24 08:05 |
psydroid | I'm glad that so far they haven't been messing with internal networks here, but I haven't run any servers yet | May 24 08:06 |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▇▄▅▆▃▃▄▇▃▅▃▃▄▅▆▅▅▃▅▅▆▄▅▅▇▅▄▄▅▃▅▆▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 24.03 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▃▁▂▂▂▃▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 5.90▕ swarm size (avg): 229.07 ⟲ | May 24 08:16 |
schestowitz | psydroid: when you say stretching it you mean it's too little | May 24 08:17 |
schestowitz | until a year ago I had not used ANY machine with more than 2GB | May 24 08:18 |
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psydroid | schestowitz, yes, I still use machines with 1-8 GB but my newer laptops have 24 GB and 32 GB respectively | May 24 08:27 |
schestowitz | probably expenseive | May 24 08:28 |
schestowitz | some people buy a machine for x5 or more than me | May 24 08:28 |
schestowitz | Microsoft and Apple found a way to compel people to pay for PCs what they pay for used cars | May 24 08:29 |
schestowitz | and OEMs love it like that | May 24 08:29 |
psydroid | I bought my own laptop for my studies through university and then my uncle gave me his 2 years ago and told me I could keep it | May 24 08:29 |
schestowitz | but then again some 'reputable' OEMs that ship only with gnu/linux do the same | May 24 08:29 |
schestowitz | rianne still has 4GB of RAM after many years with 2GB | May 24 08:30 |
schestowitz | I only upgraded from 2GB last year | May 24 08:30 |
schestowitz | a local shop here sells used thinkpads for about 200 quid | May 24 08:31 |
psydroid | I make sure to write and test much software on (used) machines with 2-4 GB that I got for well under €100 | May 24 08:32 |
schestowitz | I am getting a deja vu like you said it a month ago | May 24 08:45 |
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psydroid | Probably | May 24 08:54 |
techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151521 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 08:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 24 08:55 | |
techrights-bot | Ryan correctly points out that the crooks and thugs from #microsoft blackmailed #samsung -- using #patents -- to impose Microsoft #malware on people who buy Samsung. Where's the government #antitrust probe? https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/failure-is-not-an-option-it-comes-with-every-samsung-galaxy-phone-thanks-to-microsoft-and-t-mobile-swap-out-the-photo-gallery-with-f-droid/ | May 24 08:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Failure is not an option, it comes with every Samsung Galaxy phone. (Thanks to Microsoft and T-Mobile.) Swap out the photo gallery with F-Droid. – BaronHK's Rants | May 24 08:55 | |
techrights-bot | #IBM layoffs https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies | May 24 08:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How are we looking on layoffs? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 24 08:55 | |
psydroid | We don't really need machines with that much memory, but the software keeps getting bigger and sometimes slower | May 24 08:55 |
techrights-bot | Kevin E. Noonan disseminating notorious #USTR propaganda, where they basically #blackmail entire nations on behalf of US megacorporation to undermine competitors https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/05/us-trade-representative-releases-2021-special-301-report.html examples in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Cablegate | May 24 08:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: U.S. Trade Representative Releases 2021 Special 301 Report | May 24 08:56 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cablegate - Techrights | May 24 08:56 | |
techrights-bot | " #IBM stop the pension plan. When they did stop it they would match a max of 6% to your 401k plan and add another 2%. As money was going south they change the 401k match to 2% max." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aY56fW7#replies | May 24 08:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Pension - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 24 08:56 | |
techrights-bot | #SublimeText 4 Brings in a Refreshed UI, GPU Rendering Feature, and More Exciting Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151431#comment-29737 | May 24 08:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sublime Text 4 | Tux Machines | May 24 08:59 | |
techrights-bot | "Band 10 is death row at IBM… you don’t want to get there. If you get there, #IBM will make you work like a dog." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aYfLMf0#replies | May 24 08:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | High salary, but promotion never comes - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 24 08:59 | |
techrights-bot | #GromitMPX Lets You Draw Anywhere On Linux Desktop Screen • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151524 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 09:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gromit-MPX Lets You Draw Anywhere On Linux Desktop Screen | Tux Machines | May 24 09:00 | |
techrights-bot | #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: May 23rd, 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151522 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 09:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: May 23rd, 2021 | Tux Machines | May 24 09:00 | |
techrights-bot | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151519 #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 09:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 24 09:02 | |
techrights-bot | Eventually migrating back to #GNU / #Linux on a recent #Lenovo #ThinkBook • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151523 | May 24 09:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Eventually migrating back to GNU/Linux on a recent Lenovo ThinkBook. | Tux Machines | May 24 09:02 | |
techrights-bot | Audiocasts/Shows: Security, Freenode, and DNS Over HTTPS • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151520 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 09:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Security, Freenode, and DNS Over HTTPS | Tux Machines | May 24 09:04 | |
techrights-bot | "Today, #Firefox is packed full of proprietary programs and is pretty much a thrall of Google and Microsoft." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/24/mozilla-outsources-newsgroups-to-google-development-to-microsoft-github-and-stuffs-proprietary-tracking-into-firefox-for-android-the-user-experience-is-falling-apart/ | May 24 09:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Mozilla outsources newsgroups to Google, development to Microsoft GitHub, and stuffs proprietary tracking into Firefox for Android. The user experience is falling apart. – BaronHK's Rants | May 24 09:04 | |
techrights-bot | #pgAdmin 4 v5.3 Released and #Pgpool II Releases • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151525 #postgres #psql #TuxMachines | May 24 09:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | pgAdmin 4 v5.3 Released and Pgpool-II Releases | Tux Machines | May 24 09:05 | |
techrights-bot | 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, May 23, 2021 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/24/irc-log-230521/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/24/irc-log-230521/ | May 24 09:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, May 23, 2021 | Techrights | May 24 09:05 | |
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techrights-bot | #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, May 23, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | May 24 09:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | May 24 09:28 | |
techrights-bot | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | May 24 09:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | May 24 09:38 | |
techrights-bot | It took #BT one whole month (yes, a month!) to fix the seriously bad bugs they introduced with botched firmware updates, silently imposed remotely on hubs to make home networks mutually inaccessible in most scenarios | May 24 09:38 |
techrights-bot | New Wallpaper for #KDE Plasma 5.22 is Here. And It’s Very Artful • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151530 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 09:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Wallpaper for KDE Plasma 5.22 is Here. And It's Very Artful | Tux Machines | May 24 09:44 | |
techrights-bot | Run Linux on Refurbished Mini PCs – Other Factors – Part 6 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151529 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 09:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Run Linux on Refurbished Mini PCs – Other Factors – Part 6 | Tux Machines | May 24 09:44 | |
techrights-bot | Comparison of #Ubuntu and #Android • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151528 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 09:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Comparison of Ubuntu and Android | Tux Machines | May 24 09:45 | |
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techrights-bot | Review: #TeLOS and snakeware 0.0.6 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151527 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 09:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: TeLOS and snakeware 0.0.6 | Tux Machines | May 24 09:45 | |
techrights-bot | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151526 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 09:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 24 09:46 | |
techrights-bot | #ChromeOS Is Officially Leaving Beta For #GNU #Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151386#comment-29739 | May 24 09:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chrome OS’s Linux app support is leaving beta | Tux Machines | May 24 09:47 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes ☞ #DDoS [cracking] attempts drop in Q1 2021: Report https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/ddos-hacking-attempts-drop-in-q1-2021-report/82899100 | May 24 09:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | DDoS attacks: DDoS hacking attempts drop in Q1 2021: Report, IT News, ET CIO | May 24 09:53 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #AralBalkan ☞ How to get clean analog audio from a Blue Yeti microphone into a #Sony a6400 camera using a #RaspberryPi Zero https://ar.al/2021/05/23/how-to-get-clean-analog-audio-from-a-blue-yeti-microphone-into-a-sony-a6400-camera-using-a-raspberry-pi-zero/ | May 24 10:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ar.al | How to get clean analog audio from a Blue Yeti microphone into a Sony a6400 camera using a Raspberry Pi Zero – Aral Balkan | May 24 10:02 | |
techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Watch Tower Ups Pressure on #YouTube & #Facebook To Hand Over Infringers' Details https://torrentfreak.com/watch-tower-ups-pressure-on-youtube-facebook-to-hand-over-infringers-details-210523/ | May 24 10:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Watch Tower Ups Pressure on YouTube & Facebook To Hand Over Infringers' Details * TorrentFreak | May 24 10:06 | |
psydroid | https://old.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/5ohg0h/intel_seized_my_rmad_6600k_interresting_story/ | May 24 10:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-old.reddit.com | Intel seized my RMA'd 6600k... Interresting story. : overclocking | May 24 10:21 | |
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techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151533 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 11:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 24 11:35 | |
techrights-bot | #OpenHardware Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151532 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 11:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 24 11:35 | |
techrights-bot | #Games: Steam, Otter and Retro • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151531 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 11:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam, Otter and Retro | Tux Machines | May 24 11:35 | |
techrights-bot | Links 24/5/2021: Linux 5.13 RC3 and #pgAdmin 4 v5.3 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/24/linux-5-13-rc3/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/24/linux-5-13-rc3/ | May 24 11:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/5/2021: Linux 5.13 RC3 and pgAdmin 4 v5.3 | Techrights | May 24 11:35 | |
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cybrNaut | does anyone know how it is possible for the CIA to have a spin-off company? | May 24 14:05 |
cybrNaut | i see it mentioned here: https://yasha.substack.com/p/signal-is-a-government-op | May 24 14:05 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yasha.substack.com | Signal is a government op - Immigrants as a Weapon | May 24 14:05 | |
cybrNaut | I bash Signal at every opportunity.. but that seems like a stretch. The CIA is a government agency, so how can it have a spin-off? Does the government say "office X doing activity Y is for sale"? | May 24 14:08 |
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cybrNaut | ah.. apparently they are it a "spin-off" because Signal got CIA funding. I guess saying "spin-off" makes the article more sensational and grabby than just saying "funded by CIA" | May 24 14:16 |
cybrNaut | s/are it/are calling it/ | May 24 14:16 |
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trttl | it's a centralized service, they control both the client app and the server. and if i'm not mistaken only the protocol has been audited so far | May 24 14:57 |
trttl | also they had issues with providing reproducible builds for the app in the past | May 24 14:59 |
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trttl | also though open source is nice the development is hard to follow because they tend to leave repos out of date | May 24 15:00 |
trttl | i mean if you just dump a lot of code once a year nobody will really inspect that and introduced security bugs have a good chance to remain unnoticed | May 24 15:04 |
trttl | but the press likes them so w/e | May 24 15:09 |
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MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21032811 | May 24 15:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5353316) | May 24 15:26 | |
XRevan86 | > rasengan put Ariadne into the staff | May 24 15:27 |
XRevan86 | Wait, she changed her mind? | May 24 15:27 |
Ariadne | XRevan86: i am here to assist friends who also joined the staff | May 24 15:27 |
XRevan86 | Ariadne: Oh, I typed your nickname manually, should've known :D | May 24 15:27 |
cybrNaut | trttl: Signal is certainly something to avoid: https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/779 I was trying to understand what was meant by the CIA having a spin-off company | May 24 15:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-❌ Software Removal | Signal · Issue #779 · privacytools/privacytools.io · GitHub | May 24 15:29 | |
XRevan86 | Ariadne: Does that mean that ye have changed your mind on Freenode or is it strictly to help friends? | May 24 15:33 |
XRevan86 | > i'm just here because i realize that there's going to be 3 networks, and i know how to make sure things run smoothly | May 24 15:33 |
XRevan86 | I guess that answers it. I'm just reading back-log. | May 24 15:33 |
trttl | in a blogger's imagination everything is possible but i don't give too much credit to a bunch of what if questions | May 24 15:34 |
Ariadne | XRevan86: basically, i had ex-staffer friends who really needed the help | May 24 15:35 |
XRevan86 | Is https://freenode.net/people currently outdated? | May 24 15:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | The People - freenode | May 24 15:37 | |
trttl | the self-updating apk is interesting. wonder if they could roll out targeted updates if they wanted to | May 24 15:37 |
trttl | given that usernames are tied to phone numbers and phone numbers are generally tied to real life identities | May 24 15:37 |
Ariadne | XRevan86: yes, i would say so | May 24 15:38 |
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cybrNaut | does that self-updating apk run over Orbot? | May 24 15:40 |
cybrNaut | and more importantly, does it rely on Playstore to grab the updates? | May 24 15:41 |
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cybrNaut | Moxie likes his stats, so i would assume he's coded it to depend on Google, in which case downloading the APK from signal.org could eventually lead to a Playstore download anyway. That should be looked into | May 24 15:44 |
trttl | if play services are present it will used it | May 24 15:48 |
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trttl | but it's not dependent on it | May 24 15:49 |
cybrNaut | so if Play svcs are unavailable, the self-update will fetch from signal.org, over Orbot? | May 24 15:50 |
trttl | orbot? | May 24 15:50 |
cybrNaut | Orbot is the Tor client for Android | May 24 15:50 |
MinceR | considering what the CIA does, it sounds plausible that they could found a corporation that is not (or at least not officially) owned by the CIA | May 24 15:52 |
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trttl | i know it's just unclear what's the connection between the two. you don't need orbot in order to use signal | May 24 15:59 |
trttl | but you can force your traffic through tor | May 24 15:59 |
cybrNaut | trttl: if the app is self-updating, and it does so outside of Tor, the problem is that your IP address can identify you to the software repo, in which case you can get a special version select for you (if you are targetted). But Tor counters that, of course only if Playstore is out of the loop | May 24 16:01 |
trttl | i don't follow your logic | May 24 16:02 |
cybrNaut | A user should demand that self-updates happen over Tor. But for performance reasons they may want comms to go direct to the other party | May 24 16:02 |
cybrNaut | which part are you lost on? | May 24 16:03 |
cybrNaut | it's the same problem as with javascript from Protonmail, for example | May 24 16:03 |
trttl | you already have a username that is persistent | May 24 16:03 |
cybrNaut | i would hope the username is not part of the update transaction. If it is, then that's a big problem that should be spotlighted | May 24 16:04 |
cybrNaut | it would violate the data minimization that Signal users should demand | May 24 16:05 |
trttl | .. | May 24 16:05 |
cybrNaut | are you saying userid is part of the software update transaction? | May 24 16:06 |
trttl | i think we misunderstood each other. i was talking about something else | May 24 16:06 |
cybrNaut | there are only 2 scenarios where a self-updating Signal app is safe: 1) if everything is done without Playstore and it's all over tor (at the cost of performance), or 2) if Signal self-updates from signal.org over Tor, and comms are either direct or over tor at the user's discretion, which is incompatible with Tor-by-force. | May 24 16:11 |
cybrNaut | case 2 is ideal, but i doubt the Signal config gives users the option of certain traffic over tor and other traffic not. | May 24 16:13 |
cybrNaut | i won't install Signal so I can't see what the config looks like, but hopefully the auto-updating can be disabled | May 24 16:15 |
trttl | i don't see how in the settings | May 24 16:19 |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/2104270 | May 24 16:22 |
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cybrNaut | trttl: are you saying auto-updates can't be disabled, or that there is no way to select what traffic goes over Tor? | May 24 16:26 |
trttl | there's no option to set a proxy and there's no option to disable updates | May 24 16:28 |
trttl | when you're on cellular you're broadcasting your location+imsi+imei. if your signal account name is the same as your actual phone number then tor is of little help | May 24 16:33 |
trttl | that's why i don't follow your logic | May 24 16:33 |
cybrNaut | different parties see different things. Assuming you are using mobile data & not wifi, the carrier sees your IMEI but beyond that only your unprotected traffic is visible to the carrier. Signal.org and Google should not be seeing your IMEI# | May 24 16:37 |
cybrNaut | if you use wifi and the software is well coded, then no one sees your IMEI -- but note that Google Playstore's app shares your IMEI with Google, which is why it's important to avoid Playstore | May 24 16:39 |
cybrNaut | does Signal function if you put your phone in airplane mode, with only wifi running? | May 24 16:40 |
cybrNaut | i'm sure it must, because Signal has a desktop app | May 24 16:41 |
trttl | yeah and some parties have subpoena capabilities and can see everything | May 24 16:41 |
cybrNaut | a subpoena is a different variable which may or may not be in your threat model, but in the end the subpoena is still limited by technology. The subpoena can be served on any 3rd party involved, but that party can only give what they have | May 24 16:43 |
cybrNaut | subpoena power is also why it's important to get software updates anonymously | May 24 16:43 |
techrights-bot | This seems rather biased as it ignores all the similar (or worse) 'abuse' from the other side https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/05/23/1632220 | May 24 16:43 |
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cybrNaut | think of how the Hushmail steroid dealers were caught | May 24 16:44 |
trttl | it's hard to maintain a discussion if you're moving the goalposts all the time | May 24 16:44 |
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cybrNaut | the court ordered Hushmail to push malicious javascript to the suspects. That was only possible because they did not connect to the server anonymously when downloading the javacript | May 24 16:45 |
cybrNaut | the goal posts haven't changed. Data minimization has always been paramount since the discussion started | May 24 16:46 |
schestowitz | [15:27] <Ariadne> XRevan86: i am here to assist friends who also joined the staff | May 24 16:47 |
schestowitz | thanks, Ariadne! | May 24 16:48 |
cybrNaut | if the Hushmail steroid dealers had downloaded the javascript under different accounts & over tor, the subpoena could not have forced disclosure of their traffic due to tech limitations | May 24 16:48 |
cybrNaut | it's the same with Signal. Signal should be designed to make subpoenas as useless as possible | May 24 16:49 |
schestowitz | Signal has many issues | May 24 16:50 |
schestowitz | and some of its endorsers I lost confidence in | May 24 16:50 |
schestowitz | Wikileaks shows it's not good enough on a phone | May 24 16:50 |
schestowitz | not sure about desktop | May 24 16:50 |
schestowitz | but it USED to require a phone number to use | May 24 16:51 |
schestowitz | I think they overcame that | May 24 16:51 |
XRevan86 | they did? | May 24 16:51 |
schestowitz | they also releases server-side software after a long time of darkness | May 24 16:51 |
trttl | if you're using an account name that is tied to your real life identity you're not anonymous tor or no tor. your monologue doesn't make any sense | May 24 16:51 |
schestowitz | as people started asking ''weird' questions | May 24 16:51 |
schestowitz | trttl: Signal is not anonymous | May 24 16:51 |
schestowitz | if you use 'phone' | May 24 16:51 |
schestowitz | it's encrypted | May 24 16:51 |
schestowitz | but it's possible to figure out the "ends" | May 24 16:51 |
schestowitz | just now what they say | May 24 16:52 |
schestowitz | only when and with phones/IP also where from | May 24 16:52 |
schestowitz | you're better off just meeting someone face to face in the street | May 24 16:52 |
cybrNaut | trttl: anonymous to who? What you're missing is several parties are involved. You're not anonymous to the correspondant you are talking to, but anonymity to the parties facilitating the comms is possible if the software is well coded. | May 24 16:53 |
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cybrNaut | signal.org gets your mobile # and that's a serious defect, but it's not a total show stopper as Signal at least ensures they don't see the metadata of who is talking to who. Open Whisper Systems knows that Alice uses Signal & that Bob uses Signal, but OWS doesn't know that Alice talks to Bon | May 24 16:57 |
cybrNaut | *Bob | May 24 16:57 |
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trttl | i'm not missing anything you're the one who missed my whole point. which is: i was wondering if signal could technically ship targeted updates if they were asked to do it by a third party. given that the independent apk self-updates with no option to disable it. given that your user name is tied to your real life identity and location | May 24 16:59 |
trttl | orbot/tor doesn't solve anything | May 24 16:59 |
schestowitz | what is orbot? | May 24 17:01 |
schestowitz | I used orweb | May 24 17:01 |
schestowitz | on some very old tablet a decade ago | May 24 17:01 |
trttl | some android app that you can use as a vpn and it will force all your traffic through tor | May 24 17:02 |
cybrNaut | trttl: the code is open, and it can be externally forced to use Tor. If the software update transaction does not send your userid as a precondition to the update, and it's forced over Tor, and it connects to signal assets (not Google) then OWS cannot target you. | May 24 17:02 |
trttl | code is not audited | May 24 17:04 |
trttl | being open is not an argument | May 24 17:04 |
cybrNaut | schestowitz: Orweb was a Tor Browser that used Orbot. It has been obsoleted. I'm not sure if the modern Tor Browser droid app still depends on Orbot, or if it embeds its own Tor wiring | May 24 17:04 |
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cybrNaut | trttl: *you* can see the code. Audits still depend on trust | May 24 17:04 |
cybrNaut | trttl: *you* can verify for yourself if the software conforms to your own data minimization requirements | May 24 17:05 |
MinceR | i think the concern is that they might send you a package with _different_ ART/native code than what they send to most users | May 24 17:05 |
trttl | yeah | May 24 17:05 |
MinceR | and in general it's difficult to ensure that what you're running comes from a particular set of source code | May 24 17:06 |
cybrNaut | MinceR: right, which is why anonymous software downloads is important | May 24 17:06 |
MinceR | right | May 24 17:06 |
cybrNaut | it's /possible/ that Signal auto-updates are done in a sensible (anonymous) way, but you have to look at the code to know that | May 24 17:07 |
cybrNaut | which is always the case with security apps | May 24 17:07 |
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cybrNaut | you always have to either inspect the code, or be satisfied that other trusted people are doing that | May 24 17:08 |
cybrNaut | -- for any software that you run | May 24 17:10 |
schestowitz | code is code | May 24 17:11 |
cybrNaut | and certainly Tor is paramount here, because even if Signal is well coded to not use your userid when updating, the sw server can see your IP and treat you differently. | May 24 17:11 |
schestowitz | licence is not code | May 24 17:11 |
schestowitz | binaries are sort of code, just not readable | May 24 17:11 |
schestowitz | the authors' credibility matter and build process | May 24 17:11 |
trttl | but why would a trustworthy service treat you differently based on an ip if there was no outside legal pressure on the service | May 24 17:15 |
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trttl | and if there was such a pressure wouldn't that mean that the user had been already identified because idk.. it's trivial for a legal authority to identify someone based on a phone a number | May 24 17:19 |
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cybrNaut | trttl: "if there was no outside legal pressure on the service" <= that's not a safe assumption unless your threat model is purely mass surviellance and excludes targetted surveillance. | May 24 17:26 |
cybrNaut | well, even then it's a bad idea to forgo Tor because IP collection is still a mass surveillance factor in other ways (not to distribute malicious s/w, but just to collect a list of users) | May 24 17:27 |
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trttl | >that's not a safe assumption - if you're assumption is that you're targeted and you're using a service with an account name that is directly tied to your real life you're doing it wrong | May 24 17:32 |
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phobos | Thats more than doing it wrong... thats asking to be targeted | May 24 17:37 |
trttl | you could say that it's possible to sign up with a burner but why even use signal at that point. the main selling point of signal is easy contact discovery which depends on people letting the app to scan their address books to be able to find each other | May 24 17:40 |
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trttl | if you don't want that there are other e2ee chat softwares that don't require you to go through all the hassle just to get an account anonymously | May 24 17:43 |
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cybrNaut | trttl: indeed, if targetted surveillance is in your threat model, Signal is not the best choice, but still feasible. It's a matter of getting a burner phone or pinger # just for registration then chucking it. Snowden is targetted for sure, but uses Signal. You can still "do it right" with Signal with targetted model if you know what you're doing. | May 24 17:57 |
cybrNaut | phobos: using Signal is "asking to be targeted"? How so? | May 24 17:58 |
MinceR | signal's attitude toward f-droid makes me distrust signal | May 24 17:58 |
cybrNaut | "you could say that it's possible to sign up with a burner but why even use signal at that point." <= you can't always choose what your correspondants use | May 24 17:59 |
cybrNaut | "the main selling point of signal is easy contact discovery " <= if you do it right, the contact discovery feature will be broken | May 24 17:59 |
phobos | cybrNaut: Using your real name or a screen name that can be linked to your real identity in this day and age is asking for trouble. There is always someone that will disagree with whatever you have to say or some image you upload. Unfortunately, so many these days can't just accept that someone thinks differently than they do so they try to make all levels of trouble for that person | May 24 18:00 |
phobos | Ask some of the people that made comments a decade ago how that worked out | May 24 18:01 |
cybrNaut | MinceR: indeed. a lot of things should make you distrust Signal. see https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/779 You can't trust OWS (the Signal makers). | May 24 18:01 |
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phobos | and were "canceled" from their jobs and social life how that worked out* | May 24 18:02 |
phobos | Many journalists can also tell you how thats working out for them too for reporting the truth about some issues vs the approved narrative | May 24 18:03 |
cybrNaut | phobos: it depends on where that ID is presented. Signal does not expose metadata like that. but even if it did, it is "asking to be targetted". That falls into the "everyone who protects themself from snooping is suspicious" thinking, which is what NSA hopes for. | May 24 18:04 |
cybrNaut | you should not be afraid to be seen using secure technology | May 24 18:04 |
cybrNaut | s/it is asking to be targeted/it is not asking to be targeted/ | May 24 18:06 |
phobos | Is there such a thing as secure technology these days? If so, we need to inform credit card companies, banks, fund me sites, etc that all claim to be using secure tech, yet somehow suffer from massive data breeches. Some have even gone on for months before being detected | May 24 18:06 |
phobos | *cough* *yahoo* *cough* *capitalone* *cough cough* *equifax* *hack* *chase* | May 24 18:07 |
cybrNaut | phobos: security is relative, and something is "secure" if it satisfies your threat model and the risks are lower than the alternatives | May 24 18:08 |
cybrNaut | the "nothing is secure" rationale for not pracicing security is defeatist | May 24 18:09 |
phobos | If I didn't know better, I'd say that sounds like a case of 'if its just a few breeches in which a few people might have their data exposed, its justifiable.' But I do know better. | May 24 18:09 |
cybrNaut | s/pracicing/practicing/ | May 24 18:09 |
phobos | Besides, wouldn't it be better if people took a proactive approach to safe guarding their data vs merely relying on a company to do it for them? | May 24 18:09 |
phobos | Whether we like it or not, breeches happen despite the most insane security... NASA can tell you about that | May 24 18:10 |
cybrNaut | phobos: by avoiding security you expose yourself to even more breaches. The defeatism is a losing propasition either way | May 24 18:10 |
cybrNaut | of course you can't have absolute security -- this is not good reason to not practice security and choose hardened tools | May 24 18:11 |
phobos | Who said anything about avoiding it? I'm merely saying that maybe people should take a more proactive approach to things. If you value your life and job, or are worried about your family being targeted because you might piss off some liberal, wouldn't it be better to use a screen name that can't be easily traced back to you? | May 24 18:12 |
cybrNaut | phobos> Who said anything about avoiding it? <= "Thats more than doing it wrong... thats asking to be targeted" | May 24 18:12 |
phobos | Yeah, by using your real name in a social media setting | May 24 18:13 |
cybrNaut | using security tools like Signal is not "asking to be targeted" | May 24 18:13 |
cybrNaut | Signal is not "social media" because the payload is not public | May 24 18:13 |
phobos | Signal... isn't that one of those projects that originated at the NSA? | May 24 18:14 |
phobos | Or at least the encryption? | May 24 18:14 |
cybrNaut | the metadata is not public either | May 24 18:14 |
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cybrNaut | phobos: Tor was US Navy invented and CIA funded. That doesn't mean it's sensible to not use it | May 24 18:15 |
phobos | I agree with that. I use tor from time to time | May 24 18:15 |
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cybrNaut | Tor is the most protective mechanism for some transactions despite US gov involvement | May 24 18:15 |
phobos | but still, it doesn't hurt to be proactive with your data and possible links back to your real identity | May 24 18:15 |
phobos | cybrNaut: What do you think of VPN providers? | May 24 18:17 |
cybrNaut | they are hard to trust, but if you choose one that's EU-based and you're outside of the EU, it's an improvement over letting your ISP snoop | May 24 18:18 |
cybrNaut | i still run Tor over VPN to minimize the VPN's visibility on traffic | May 24 18:18 |
phobos | Have any of them over there been caught keeping secret logs like they have here? | May 24 18:20 |
cybrNaut | if a VPN server in the EU desides to snoop, at least you still have some legal protections | May 24 18:20 |
phobos | https://www.pcmag.com/news/7-vpn-services-found-recording-user-logs-despite-no-log-pledge | May 24 18:20 |
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cybrNaut | that's a cloudflare link | May 24 18:21 |
schestowitz | :-) | May 24 18:21 |
schestowitz | W3Clown | May 24 18:21 |
cybrNaut | https://web.archive.org/web/20210316103155/https://www.pcmag.com/news/7-vpn-services-found-recording-user-logs-despite-no-log-pledge | May 24 18:21 |
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cybrNaut | i think you also have to consider the size of your ISP and the size of the VPN service. If your ISP is AT&T or Comcast, you'd be a fool not to use a VPN because the bigger they are, the better equipped they are to monatize your data | May 24 18:23 |
phobos | And CenturyLink aka Qwest | May 24 18:24 |
trttl | you can't compare signal to tor. one is a closed and centralized service, a single entity is in full control of both client and server and expects you to tie your identity to your account. using that service requires blind trust. the other one is just not like that at all | May 24 18:24 |
cybrNaut | If the VPN is bigger than your ISP, you might be better off without the VPN. | May 24 18:24 |
phobos | trttl: I wasn't comparing the two. Merely wondered what cybrNaut thought of VPN | May 24 18:24 |
cybrNaut | little guys are financially limited in the extent that they can commercially exploit your data | May 24 18:25 |
baronhk[m]1 | <schestowitz "is 32GB of RAM enough to run Vis"> 16 seems to run it fine. | May 24 18:26 |
cybrNaut | trttl: tor & Signal aren't comparable because they're not even the same class of service. And one can aid other -- they should be combined, not compared | May 24 18:26 |
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trttl | combining the two has little to no benefits | May 24 18:29 |
cybrNaut | nonsense | May 24 18:29 |
phobos | www.haaretz.com/israel-news/tech-news/.premium-israeli-spy-tech-firm-says-it-can-break-into-signal-app-previously-considered-safe-1.9368581 | May 24 18:29 |
cybrNaut | if you are using Signal, you'd be a fool not to use it over Tar | May 24 18:29 |
cybrNaut | *Tor | May 24 18:29 |
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trttl | yeah why is that? why do you want to hide your ip from signal if they're such a trustworthy service | May 24 18:33 |
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trttl | and they don't collect metadata | May 24 18:34 |
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cybrNaut | trttl: "why do you want to hide your ip from signal if they're such a trustworthy service" <= you've answered your own question. If you don't trust them, giving them your IP would be foolish. | May 24 18:35 |
trttl | and if they collect metadata they delete it | May 24 18:35 |
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cybrNaut | ah, sorry i misread your comment | May 24 18:36 |
cybrNaut | Signal Technology Foundation is *not* a trustworthy company | May 24 18:36 |
trttl | why would i use a service for sensitive chats if i didn't trust them | May 24 18:37 |
cybrNaut | ..which is why you should use Tor | May 24 18:37 |
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baronhk[m]1 | It seems Mozilla VPN is the same cost as Mullvad VPN. | May 24 18:37 |
trttl | mozilla vpn is mullvad vpn if i'm correct | May 24 18:37 |
baronhk[m]1 | Most likely, the revenue for Mozilla comes from an affiliate revenue share program. So they're not just adding cost to something else. | May 24 18:38 |
trttl | malwarebytes vpn is also mullvad vpn | May 24 18:38 |
cybrNaut | trttl: you may not need to trust them. But certainly you need to trust the code (which i told you earlier you should inspect) | May 24 18:38 |
trttl | mullvad has some whitelabel service or something that they sell to those people | May 24 18:38 |
baronhk[m]1 | Actually, 55 cents a month less to go through Mozilla. | May 24 18:39 |
trttl | cybrNaut that's not an argument. i can't verify what they do on their servers | May 24 18:39 |
trttl | the code they publish is out of date | May 24 18:39 |
baronhk[m]1 | It's $5.55 USD at Mullvad or $4.95 a month to use Mozilla's client. | May 24 18:39 |
cybrNaut | trttl: you don't need to know what the servers are doing if you know what the client is doing | May 24 18:40 |
cybrNaut | of course, notwithstanding the Cellebrite compromize | May 24 18:40 |
trttl | i know what the client is doing. the chats ar e2ee but it's up to them what they do with the corresponding metadata | May 24 18:41 |
cybrNaut | the Cellebrite compromize, if real, proves you can't trust the client | May 24 18:41 |
trttl | the cellebrite thing is more smoke than fire | May 24 18:41 |
cybrNaut | trttl: you don't know what the client is doing, because you still think the servers receive the metadata | May 24 18:42 |
trttl | they need working exploits to unlock the phone first | May 24 18:42 |
techrights-bot | The media campaign of the #EPO is about to kick off, whatever its nature may be (the strategy), with the intention of diverting attention away from kangaroo courts Get Ready for a Torrent of EPO #Propaganda • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/24/epo-propaganda-ahead/ ䷉ #Techrights #Europe #corruption | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/24/epo-propag | May 24 18:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Get Ready for a Torrent of EPO Propaganda | Techrights | May 24 18:43 | |
cybrNaut | again, metadata does not go to the servers. As I said earlier, the servers know Bob uses Signal, and that Alice uses Signal, but not that Bob talks to Alice | May 24 18:43 |
baronhk[m]1 | <MinceR "considering what the CIA does, i"> Wouldn't be the first time they've done it. | May 24 18:44 |
trttl | they also know when you receive a message | May 24 18:44 |
techrights-bot | #RaspberryPi PoE+ HAT features 25.5W PoE+ • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151539 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 18:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi PoE+ HAT features 25.5W PoE+ | Tux Machines | May 24 18:44 | |
techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151538 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 18:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 24 18:44 | |
trttl | and before the sealed sender feature they also knew when you sent one | May 24 18:44 |
techrights-bot | The #Librem 14 comes with new software — here’s some of the new things coming your way • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151537 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 18:44 |
trttl | all it takes is correlation | May 24 18:44 |
baronhk[m]1 | They don't always move in on criminals that they catch using this stuff because most aren't worth blowing their cover. | May 24 18:44 |
trttl | to figure out who talks to whom | May 24 18:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Recv failure: Connection reset by peer ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151537 ) | May 24 18:45 | |
trttl | not to mention how they tricked their users to upload their profiles with the introduction of an ambiguously explained feature | May 24 18:47 |
cybrNaut | trttl: that doesn't make sense. If Bob sends a msg to Alice and needs to ping the server 1st, she may or may not reply, and that reply can come at any time. There is no timing attack possiblity there | May 24 18:48 |
cybrNaut | there are just too many users for that to be viable | May 24 18:49 |
trttl | https://signal.org/blog/sealed-sender/ | May 24 18:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-signal.org | NO TITLE | May 24 18:50 | |
trttl | https://signal.org/blog/signal-pins/ | May 24 18:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-signal.org | NO TITLE | May 24 18:50 | |
trttl | read those | May 24 18:50 |
cybrNaut | i've read that sealed-sender blog already | May 24 18:51 |
techrights-bot | Word through the grapevine: many #ibm #layoffs this week https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies | May 24 18:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How are we looking on layoffs? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 24 18:53 | |
techrights-bot | "If #IBM sticks to their past behavior, this week should be interesting." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aIvibXK#replies | May 24 18:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The Barber is In - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 24 18:54 | |
trttl | that sealed sender feature was introduced less than 2 years ago and is enabled for your contacts only | May 24 18:54 |
cybrNaut | trttl: that blog actually emphasizes the importance of tor. The server only knows 1 party to the transaction, but if the other party's IP address is exposed, it knows both parties | May 24 18:56 |
techrights-bot | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151540 #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 18:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 24 18:57 | |
trttl | here's an opinion on the second post | May 24 18:58 |
trttl | https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2020/07/10/a-few-thoughts-about-signals-secure-value-recovery/ | May 24 18:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cryptographyengineering.com | Why is Signal asking users to set a PIN, or “A few thoughts on Secure Value Recovery” – A Few Thoughts on Cryptographic Engineering | May 24 18:58 | |
MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/kt4zyP4.jpeg | May 24 19:03 |
psydroid | that writing system is completely messed up | May 24 19:07 |
MinceR | :> | May 24 19:08 |
schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/04/translation-what-biblical-tower-of.html?showComment=1621791025911#c4312764634420087321 | May 24 19:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Translation: What the Biblical Tower of Babel can teach us about Netflix - The IPKat | May 24 19:09 | |
schestowitz | "I think the author of this story completely misses what was going on at the Tower of Babel. I suggest a Mike Heiser video for the back story. Babel is linked to the events of Genesis 6 and the depravity of humanity. The tower was a center for worship as humans were trying to barter with the spirit realm. Josephus also tells us about the animosity Nimrod had towards God. The only thing Netflix has in common with that is seemingly | May 24 19:09 |
schestowitz | endless stream of videos on the occult and making it appealing to people. This is all together evil and Netflix is despicable for it" | May 24 19:09 |
schestowitz | MinceR: yes, those names I see a lot | May 24 19:09 |
schestowitz | but would never attempt to read them out loud | May 24 19:09 |
schestowitz | guaranteed senior moment | May 24 19:09 |
techrights-bot | Patrick Wingrove still battling for litigation, losing sight of the real purpose of #patents because his owners, the sponsors, profit from lawsuits https://www.managingip.com/article/b1rxk39dzkjjg0/the-patent-pilot-program-is-ending-what-next | May 24 19:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | The Patent Pilot Program is ending – what next? | Managing Intellectual Property | May 24 19:12 | |
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techrights-bot | #patent #monopoly on dogs becoming too fat :-) https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/gnubiotics-gains-allowance-of-patent-of-microbiome-markers-for-prediction-identification-and-treatment-of-pet-obesity-from-the-european-patent-office-301297533.html | May 24 19:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Gnubiotics gains allowance of patent of microbiome markers for prediction, identification and treatment of pet obesity from the European Patent Office | May 24 19:15 | |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▆▅▃▃▆▄▅▅▆▅▁▃▁▂▆▇▅▅▄▅▆▇▃▅▂▃▆▆▄▁ avg(k/sec) 22.18 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▃▂▂▁▂▁█▂▂▃▂▂▃▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 24.10▕ swarm size (avg): 229.50 ⟲ | May 24 19:16 |
techrights-bot | Can we stop calling #patents "Intellectual Property"? They're not property, they're not protection (but protectionism), and definitely not rights. All those loaded terms are lies and propaganda, intended to tilt the premises in debates, rendering them meaningless https://www.thechemicalengineer.com/features/protecting-intellectual-property-in-the-chemical-engineering-field/ | May 24 19:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thechemicalengineer.com | Protecting Intellectual Property in the Chemical Engineering Field - Features - The Chemical Engineer | May 24 19:18 | |
baronhk[m]1 | "low-cost Hungarian carrier Wizz Air" | May 24 19:18 |
baronhk[m]1 | Don't Wizz on the electric fence! | May 24 19:18 |
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techrights-bot | Please quit calling #patents "rights" and "property"; such dishonesty is a sign of desperation from those unable to win an argument, and then citing the hugely corrupt EPO for evidence or 'proof'. This is rather appalling. https://www.mondaq.com/australia/trademark/1069302/the-tangible-benefits-of-intangible-ip-rights | May 24 19:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | The tangible benefits of intangible IP rights - Intellectual Property - Australia | May 24 19:20 | |
techrights-bot | This helps distract from the major Boards of Appeal scandal, a case in which the practice of outsourcing courts to GAFAM+ in violation of #GDPR and #EPC will be discussed by a #kangaroocourt https://www.maiwald.eu/en/news/maiwald-blog/article/epo-no-backdoor-entry-for-new-third-party-observations-in-appeal-proceedings-t-225515/ see http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/illusion-of-peace-in-haar/ | May 24 19:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maiwald.eu | Maiwald | May 24 19:23 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 18: Promoting the Illusion of Peace and Haar-mony | Techrights | May 24 19:23 | |
schestowitz | baronhk[m]1: Whatz Wizz your humour today? | May 24 19:24 |
MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/04/17/59ddb796b1c043d0.gif | May 24 19:26 |
techrights-bot | When you grant people a monopoly but still refuse to enable exclusivity (albeit at a cost to competitors) http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/24/japan-compulsory-license/ | May 24 19:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Japan Compulsory License - Kluwer Patent Blog | May 24 19:35 | |
techrights-bot | #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #security https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/powershell-source-of-third-of-critical-security-threats/ #PowerShell #crap | May 24 19:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.esecurityplanet.com | PowerShell Is Source of More Than a Third of Critical Security Threats | May 24 19:40 | |
techrights-bot | Has #geminiProtocol become popular enough and #geminiSpace large enough for international in-person meetings/events? https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006564.html #internet | May 24 19:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini meetup? | May 24 19:41 | |
techrights-bot | #suse is promoting #sap #proprietarySoftware instead of #freesw ... and moreover attacks the founder of Free software and GNU/Linux https://www.suse.com/c/supreme-petrochem-expands-business-whilst-securing-a-greener-future-in-partnership-with-suse/ | May 24 19:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Supreme Petrochem expands business whilst securing a greener future, in partnership with SUSE | SUSE Communities | May 24 19:42 | |
techrights-bot | German Parliament for #hollywood http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/guest-post-de-minimis-uses-and-german.html #de #germany #copyright #eu | May 24 19:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] De minimis uses and the German implementation of Art 17 DSM Directive - The IPKat | May 24 19:45 | |
techrights-bot | As expected, the wonderful Prost is moving on. She did a great job at #CAFC and crushed many #softwarepatents in the US. Moore should carry on her legacy... https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/chief-judge-kimberly.html #swpats | May 24 19:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Chief Judge Kimberly Moore | Patently-O | May 24 19:47 | |
techrights-bot | "I am trying R 4.1 in a schroot experimental container, while waiting that Bullseye's release will allow the package to be uploaded to Sid and the needed dependencies to be recompiled." http://charles.plessy.org/Debian/debi%C3%A2neries/r-4.1/ | May 24 19:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-charles.plessy.org | Trying R 4.1 | May 24 19:49 | |
techrights-bot | Use #falkon instead. It is very stable and #freesw unlike #chrome https://www.slashgear.com/chrome-crashing-on-windows-10-and-linux-now-has-a-fix-23674140/ | May 24 19:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chrome crashing on Windows 10 and Linux now has a fix - SlashGear | May 24 19:49 | |
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psydroid | That's a "great" way to build a "community" | May 24 19:53 |
techrights-bot | Who owns "the industry"? Who turned #trademark #law into such a farce? https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/confusion-the-industry.html #trademarks | May 24 19:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Confusion in the INDUSTRY | Patently-O | May 24 19:54 | |
techrights-bot | If you legalise drugs, then the lawyers and other vultures will claim to 'own' them, calling it "property" and stuff https://www.regimbeau.eu/REGIMBEAU/Web/Pages/Article.aspx?Language=EN&Article_Id=714 | May 24 19:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.regimbeau.eu | REGIMBEAU - Conseils en Propriété Industrielle, European Patent and Trademark Attorneys | May 24 19:56 | |
techrights-bot | Full Circle Weekly News #211 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-211/ #gnu #linux | May 24 19:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fullcirclemagazine.org | Full Circle Weekly News #211 | Full Circle Magazine | May 24 19:57 | |
techrights-bot | #DogLinux is releaed https://gumanzoy.blogspot.com/2021/05/liveusb-1100mb-doglinux-debian-11.html #debian #gnu #linux | May 24 19:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gumanzoy.blogspot.com | gumanzoy's blog: LiveUSB 1100MB сборка DogLinux Debian 11 Bullseye (nvidia-drivers, FurMark, Unigine Heaven, ddrescue, WHDD, DMDE) для тестирования, обслуживания ПК, ноутбуков | May 24 19:58 | |
techrights-bot | Why on Earth are #patents being granted on life and nature as if those are inventions? Because lobbying, bribery and entryism basically shadow-write the laws? Or break the law ever so nonchalantly? https://www.natlawreview.com/article/uc-berkeley-crispr-patent-revoked-europe-due-to-invalid-priority-claim #epo | May 24 20:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | EPO Revokes UC Berkeley CRISPR Patent | May 24 20:00 | |
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techrights-bot | Gnubiotics has nothing to do with GNU or with animals; it's just another monopolisation attempt, making money from overweight animals https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/gnubiotics-gains-allowance-of-patent-of-microbiome-markers-for-prediction-identification-and-treatment-of-pet-obesity-from-the-european-patent-office/ | May 24 20:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gnubiotics gains allowance of patent of microbiome markers for prediction, identification and treatment of pet obesity from the European Patent Office | BioSpace | May 24 20:01 | |
techrights-bot | Life without #Patents and #Copyright https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol190-on-life-without-patents-and-copyright-panel-discussion-pfs-2015/ #Kinsella on #monopoly ... | May 24 20:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL190 | Part 2: On Life without Patents and Copyright: Or, But Who Would Pick the Cotton? — Panel Discussion, Hoppe, Dürr, Kinsella, van Dun, Daniels (PFS 2015) | May 24 20:02 | |
techrights-bot | "This new release brings #Armadillo 10.5.0 which was released early on Friday. We had done one full test in the ‘10.5 rc1’ prerelease one week earlier, and did another test on 10.5.0 and this 0.10.5.0.0 #RcppArmadillo release just for added rigour." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/05/23#rcpparmadillo_0.10.5.0.0 | May 24 20:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box | May 24 20:05 | |
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techrights-bot | #TuxedoComputers Releases Powerful New #GNU #Linux Laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151387#comment-29744 | May 24 20:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TUXEDO’s Latest Linux Laptop is All About the Screen | Tux Machines | May 24 20:07 | |
techrights-bot | More than 80 #Linux devs called on to help to fix ‘mess’ created by rogue contributors [sic] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150248?page=1#comment-29743 | May 24 20:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s Why University of Minnesota is Likely to be Banned from Contributing to Linux Kernel Code | Tux Machines | May 24 20:10 | |
techrights-bot | New #RaspberryPi PoE+ HAT handles up to 25.5 Watts http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151539#comment-29745 #gnu #linux | May 24 20:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi PoE+ HAT features 25.5W PoE+ | Tux Machines | May 24 20:12 | |
techrights-bot | "In this episode, Josepha Haden Chomphosy provides a map of how to navigate #WordPress teams and communication channels, along with her small list of big things." https://wordpress.org/news/2021/05/episode-9-the-cartography-of-wordpress/ | May 24 20:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News – Episode 9: The Cartography of WordPress – WordPress.org | May 24 20:13 | |
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MinceR | looks like the author doesn't know what "run out" means | May 24 20:14 |
techrights-bot | "Evolved for the digital economy, #IBM #LinuxONE gives businesses the security of confidential computing, lightning-fast processing speed, and unparalleled reliability and availability features." https://www.suse.com/c/ibm-linuxone-and-suse-key-components-of-hybrid-cloud-infrastructure/ | May 24 20:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM LinuxONE and SUSE – Key Components of Hybrid Cloud Infrastructure for Every Business | SUSE Communities | May 24 20:15 | |
techrights-bot | Visualizing performance in #RedHat Enterprise #Linux 8.4 web console https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/visualizing-performance-red-hat-enterprise-linux-84-web-console | May 24 20:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Visualizing performance in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.4 web console | May 24 20:16 | |
techrights-bot | #opensuse : just don't be a nazi (note that many neo-nazis have long chosen and used SUSE, but the company won't talk about it) https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/NKprKHRTmxvrpIAatLiXaUvW/Screenshot_2021-05-24_20-50-59.png | May 24 20:18 |
schestowitz | [19:53] <psydroid> That's a "great" way to build a "community" | May 24 20:19 |
schestowitz | dilute it | May 24 20:19 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/07/13/rex-dieter-bans-kevin-kofler/ | May 24 20:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | There’s Apparently a New Boss (or Policy) at Red Hat/IBM | Techrights | May 24 20:19 | |
techrights-bot | Sometimes you feel like large corporations attack the communities that make and maintain/build the software, even the very same communities that devote all their time to corporate distros disguised as "open" http://techrights.org/2020/07/13/rex-dieter-bans-kevin-kofler/ | May 24 20:20 |
techrights-bot | #ibm : you cannot contribute to #fedora if you [some political waffle] because we're professional and we tolerate no [really horrible thing], except our founder's ... we STILL call products after him! http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ | May 24 20:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights | May 24 20:22 | |
techrights-bot | Apparently more #ibm #layoffs in 3 days (not sporadic but large-scale), based on powwow https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies | May 24 20:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How are we looking on layoffs? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 24 20:23 | |
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techrights-bot | #OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 RC Now Ready for Testing with Linux 5.12, Official AMD #Vulkan Driver • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151542 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 20:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 RC Now Ready for Testing with Linux 5.12, Official AMD Vulkan Driver | Tux Machines | May 24 20:32 | |
techrights-bot | #Why #KeePass instead of self-hosting #Bitwarden • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151541 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 20:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why KeePass instead of self-hosting Bitwarden | Tux Machines | May 24 20:32 | |
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CrystalMath | rasengan[llf]: hi! is there any truth to the new thing people are saying, that you want to reduce off-topic channels on freenode? | May 24 21:09 |
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rasengan[llf] | CrystalMath: what? lol | May 24 21:17 |
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CrystalMath | rasengan[llf]: someone actually asked me to check because they believed it | May 24 21:19 |
CrystalMath | but yeah it's clearly nonsense | May 24 21:19 |
techrights-bot | Keep tabs on your Linux computer specs with this desktop application https://opensource.com/article/21/5/linux-kinfocenter #gnu #linux | May 24 21:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Keep tabs on your Linux computer specs with this desktop application | Opensource.com | May 24 21:26 | |
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techrights-bot | #Shutter Screenshot Tool May Soon Make its Re-entry to the Ubuntu Repository • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151543 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 21:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shutter Screenshot Tool May Soon Make its Re-entry to the Ubuntu Repository | Tux Machines | May 24 21:40 | |
techrights-bot | Daniel Stenberg: The #curl user survey 2021 https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/05/24/the-curl-user-survey-2021/ #freesw #deletegithub | May 24 21:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The curl user survey 2021 | daniel.haxx.se | May 24 21:41 | |
techrights-bot | Intel AMX Support Continues Being Prepped For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-AMX-Linux-Kernel-v5 ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/24/#latest | May 24 21:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel AMX Support Continues Being Prepped For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix | May 24 21:45 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | May 24 21:45 | |
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schestowitz | [21:09] <CrystalMath> rasengan[llf]: hi! is there any truth to the new thing people are saying, that you want to reduce off-topic channels on freenode? | May 24 21:47 |
schestowitz | sounds like BS | May 24 21:47 |
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CrystalMath | schestowitz: yeah it is | May 24 21:48 |
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schestowitz | does not pass the most basic 'smell test' | May 24 21:57 |
schestowitz | if they said "abusive channels", maybe... | May 24 21:57 |
schestowitz | depending on what that term means | May 24 21:57 |
techrights-bot | #irc wars have no winners, except those looking to undermine IRC as communication means https://gist.github.com/prawnsalad/4ca20da6c2295ddb06c1646791c61953 | May 24 22:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | freenode-irc-drama-and-goodbye.md · GitHub | May 24 22:09 | |
techrights-bot | Ritesh Raj Sarraf: #Kget Goodness • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151544 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw | May 24 22:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ritesh Raj Sarraf: Kget Goodness | Tux Machines | May 24 22:10 | |
CrystalMath | schestowitz: no, the original post literally says "off-topic channels" (not free software project channels) | May 24 22:16 |
CrystalMath | schestowitz: but i don't want to quote it as it's actually nasty, i should have read that first | May 24 22:16 |
CrystalMath | it's so obviously false | May 24 22:16 |
schestowitz | https://gist.github.com/prawnsalad/4ca20da6c2295ddb06c1646791c61953 | May 24 22:17 |
schestowitz | points out the pollution of misinformation | May 24 22:17 |
CrystalMath | what happened was that someone i know was concerned about this after reading the post | May 24 22:17 |
schestowitz | that's why I keep asking many questions | May 24 22:17 |
schestowitz | I focused on patents today | May 24 22:17 |
schestowitz | I've moved on like prawnsalad | May 24 22:17 |
schestowitz | because the faster we move on, the less damage will be done | May 24 22:18 |
schestowitz | friendly fires | May 24 22:18 |
schestowitz | (not so) | May 24 22:18 |
techrights-bot | #Lakka : Turns Your #RaspberryPi Into Gaming Console http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151481#comment-29746 #gnu #linux | May 24 22:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lakka 3.0 release | Tux Machines | May 24 22:21 | |
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techrights-bot | #OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 RC available for testing • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151545 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Mandriva | May 24 22:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 RC available for testing | Tux Machines | May 24 22:25 | |
techrights-bot | Well, Igor should just migrate 100% to #gnu #linux then https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-10-remove-annoyance-cloud-integration-20h2.html his #vista10 articles are a waste of space IME.... | May 24 22:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Windows 10 annoyances - Episode 9000 | May 24 22:28 | |
techrights-bot | Linux in the Ham (LHS) Episode #414: IRCsome Internet Politics https://lhspodcast.info/2021/05/lhs-episode-414-ircsome-internet-politics-2/ let's move on and beyond these #irc disputes for some calm. | May 24 22:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #414: IRCsome Internet Politics | Linux in the Ham Shack | May 24 22:31 | |
techrights-bot | Jonathan Dowland: Answering my own Template #Haskell question https://jmtd.net/log/answering_myself/ #programming | May 24 22:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jmtd.net | jmtd → log → Answering my own Template Haskell question | May 24 22:33 | |
schestowitz | [22:34] [Whois] downey[m] is online via niven.freenode.net (London, UK, EU). | May 24 22:34 |
schestowitz | UK, EU :-) | May 24 22:34 |
MinceR | :) | May 24 22:35 |
schestowitz | welcome back | May 24 22:35 |
schestowitz | https://archlinux.org/news/move-of-official-irc-channels-to-liberachat/ | May 24 22:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archlinux.org | Arch Linux - News: Move of official IRC channels to libera.chat | May 24 22:36 | |
schestowitz | zero gain | May 24 22:37 |
schestowitz | https://anarc.at/blog/2021-05-24-leaving-freenode/ | May 24 22:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anarc.at | Leaving Freenode - anarcat | May 24 22:37 | |
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techrights-bot | #RedHat Scores A Huge DM Optimization For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.14-DM-Optimization ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/24/#latest | May 24 22:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat Scores A Huge DM Optimization For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix | May 24 22:40 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | May 24 22:40 | |
techrights-bot | A Candid (And SCARY) Conversation About #Internet #Privacy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPvkstJAx1Y but they use #google YouTube as platform ^_^ #gnu #linux | May 24 22:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Candid (And SCARY) Conversation About Internet Privacy - YouTube | May 24 22:41 | |
techrights-bot | "In a recent video about Audacity I had a few people ask me what is means to have a vendored dependency, I had assumed this was common knowledge so I didn't both explaining but here's a dedicated video on the topic anyway." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp_gUaA2FR0 | May 24 22:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Really Is A Vendored Dependency? - YouTube | May 24 22:42 | |
techrights-bot | Videos/Shows: Brodie Robertson, Privacy, Linux in the Ham Shack,GNU World Order and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151546 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 22:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Shows: Brodie Robertson, Privacy, Linux in the Ham Shack, GNU World Order and More | Tux Machines | May 24 22:45 | |
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schestowitz | wb, stormchaser3000 | May 24 22:47 |
stormchaser3000 | Hello | May 24 22:47 |
techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151547 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 22:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 24 22:49 | |
techrights-bot | #IBM / #RedHat : Linux, Java, RHEL, LinuxONE • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151548 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 22:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat: Linux, Java, RHEL, LinuxONE | Tux Machines | May 24 22:52 | |
techrights-bot | Formula Student racer runs #Ubuntu on Comet Lake Mini-ITX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151549 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 22:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Formula Student racer runs Ubuntu on Comet Lake Mini-ITX | Tux Machines | May 24 22:55 | |
techrights-bot | #Entroware Unleashes a Beast of a Linux Laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151426#comment-29747 #gnu #linux | May 24 22:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Entroware Proteus is a Linux Laptop for Getting Things Done | Tux Machines | May 24 22:58 | |
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techrights-bot | Bragging about #military connections https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tuxcare-services-cloudlinux-help-support-171000888.html #almalinux #clownLinux | May 24 23:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | TuxCare Services from CloudLinux Help Support U.S. Department of Defense and Space Force National Security Mission | May 24 23:07 | |
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techrights-bot | #Linux and #Graphics : Intel, NVIDIA, #Ethereum • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151550 #TuxMachines | May 24 23:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics: Intel, NVIDIA, Ethereum | Tux Machines | May 24 23:07 | |
baronhk[m]1 | I don't see how DuckDuckGo needs to have an entire browser. | May 24 23:09 |
MinceR | google has several, they need to compete | May 24 23:10 |
schestowitz | lol | May 24 23:10 |
schestowitz | does it? | May 24 23:10 |
MinceR | there's one on android, apparently | May 24 23:10 |
schestowitz | maybe Microsoft will sponsor it | May 24 23:10 |
schestowitz | and base it on chromium code :-) | May 24 23:10 |
schestowitz | hard-linked to MS Azure :-) | May 24 23:10 |
MinceR | what else are they going to base it on, firefox? :) | May 24 23:10 |
schestowitz | Microsoft satellite to privacy-wash the thugs | May 24 23:10 |
schestowitz | DDG is a joke | May 24 23:10 |
schestowitz | people who use it are misled | May 24 23:11 |
schestowitz | maybe by ads | May 24 23:11 |
schestowitz | maybe they read the in-forum ads | May 24 23:11 |
schestowitz | DDG interjects propaganda into technical forums | May 24 23:11 |
schestowitz | like reddit and stackexchange | May 24 23:11 |
schestowitz | overflow | May 24 23:11 |
Redfoxmoon | DDG might not be perfect, but it's not the goog | May 24 23:12 |
techrights-bot | "In 2019, I wrote a zine about SQL. When I started, I thought it would be easy because I was pretty comfortable with SQL – I’d done a LOT of data analysis in SQL and so I thought I could explain it." https://jvns.ca/blog/2021/05/24/blog-about-what-you-ve-struggled-with/ | May 24 23:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jvns.ca | Blog about what you've struggled with | May 24 23:16 | |
techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▆▇▆▂▆▅▃▃▄▆▇▆▄▅▇▂▆▃▆▅▅▅▆▅▆▅▅▅▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 25.38 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▃▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▃▂▃▁▃▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 5.90▕ swarm size (avg): 229.67 ⟲ | May 24 23:16 |
techrights-bot | #GNOMEFoundation Board Elections 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151553 #GNU #GNOME #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 23:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Foundation Board Elections 2021 | Tux Machines | May 24 23:16 | |
techrights-bot | #Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151552 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 23:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 24 23:17 | |
schestowitz | Redfoxmoon: it's Microsoft | May 24 23:19 |
schestowitz | Google/Microsoft = false dichotomy | May 24 23:19 |
techrights-bot | What is #GNOMEFoundation http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation lots of #IBM and #Microsoft http://techrights.org/2020/06/07/gnome-board-of-directors-2020/ | May 24 23:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation - Techrights | May 24 23:22 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | All of GNOME Board of Directors Works on (for?) Microsoft GitHub | Techrights | May 24 23:22 | |
techrights-bot | "that is nothing to do with #IBM , the fund is outsourced to a pension company." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aY56fW7#replies | May 24 23:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Pension - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 24 23:24 | |
techrights-bot | "The working number that IBM has to remove in 2021 and 2022 via layoffs, spin-offs, retirement, attrition, and over stuffing GTS is 100k more or less. Approx 180k headcount is the number that new #IBM has to get down to to be competitive." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies | May 24 23:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How are we looking on layoffs? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 24 23:25 | |
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schestowitz | him Harry86 | May 24 23:43 |
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cybrNaut | baronhk[m]1> I don't see how DuckDuckGo needs to have an entire browser. <= after reading someone's essay "the tyranny of convenience", i realized that DDG's big mission to become the default search engine in browsers is all about exploiting convenience. having their own browser would leverage the same.. they would be their own default search engine, and they would likely hard-code it | May 24 23:46 |
cybrNaut | Redfoxmoon> DDG might not be perfect, but it's not the goog <= calling DDG "imperfect" is an unjust distortion. most search engines are not perfect, but DDG is too far from perfect to be called merely "imperfect" | May 24 23:48 |
schestowitz | FB tried it | May 24 23:48 |
schestowitz | also at OS level | May 24 23:48 |
schestowitz | for mobile | May 24 23:48 |
cybrNaut | baronhk[m]1: see http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ | May 24 23:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights | May 24 23:48 | |
techrights-bot | #Debian Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151554 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 23:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 24 23:49 | |
techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151555 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 24 23:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 24 23:49 | |
techrights-bot | Links 24/5/2021: #OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 RC, #GZDoom 4.6.0 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/24/openmandriva-lx-4-3-rc/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/24/openmandriva-lx-4-3-rc/ | May 24 23:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/5/2021: OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 RC, GZDoom 4.6.0 | Techrights | May 24 23:49 | |
cybrNaut | Redfoxmoon: the closest search engine to perfection is Ss. https://sercxi.nnpaefp7pkadbxxkhz2agtbv2a4g5sgo2fbmv3i7czaua354334uqqad.onion/ | May 24 23:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: sercxi.nnpaefp7pkadbxxkhz2agtbv2a4g5sgo2fbmv3i7czaua354334uqqad.onion; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://sercxi.nnpaefp7pkadbxxkhz2agtbv2a4g5sgo2fbmv3i7czaua354334uqqad.onion/ ) | May 24 23:50 | |
techrights-bot | Maintenance release: #GodotEngine 3.3.2 https://godotengine.org/article/maintenance-release-godot-3-3-2 #games | May 24 23:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Maintenance release: Godot 3.3.2 | May 24 23:51 | |
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techrights-bot | This can run under #gnu #linux too (albeit #ProprietarySoftware with #drm :( ) https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/scs-put-up-an-open-beta-for-multiplayer-in-euro-truck-sim-2-and-american-truck-sim | May 24 23:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SCS put up an open Beta for multiplayer in Euro Truck Sim 2 and American Truck Sim | GamingOnLinux | May 24 23:52 | |
techrights-bot | "And there’ve been some interesting developments in the Linux smartphone space recently." Lots of phones based on #gnu #linux (yes, GNU also) https://liliputing.com/2021/05/lilbits-linux-phones-and-laptops-gaming-on-the-surface-duo-and-is-netflix-the-netflix-for-games.html | May 24 23:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lilbits: Linux phones and laptops, gaming on the Surface Duo, and is Netflix the Netflix for games? - Liliputing | May 24 23:54 | |
schestowitz | cybrNaut: how about https://private.sh/how-it-works.html ? | May 24 23:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How does it work | Private.sh - the search engine that cryptographically protects your privacy | May 24 23:54 | |
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schestowitz | Have you heard of it? | May 24 23:54 |
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techrights-bot | "Fuck that bug" https://www.supergoodcode.com/breaking/ #linux #graphics #zink | May 24 23:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.supergoodcode.com | Breaking – Mike Blumenkrantz – Super. Good. Code. | May 24 23:58 | |
techrights-bot | Authenticated hashes for btrfs (part 1) https://kdave.github.io/authenticated-hashes-for-btrfs-part1/ #linux #btrfs #kernel #deletegithub | May 24 23:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdave.github.io | Authenticated hashes for btrfs (part 1) | May 24 23:59 |
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