IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, May 22, 2021

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schestowitz__

opal: sometimes you need to check which networks are run by adults/grown-ups

opal

schestowitz__

some things on the net are managed by the "shits and giggles" crowd

schestowitz__

they're the types you cannot trust with anything

opal

yeah i see that

opal

i'll keep playing along and see who cracks

opal

someone will crack

schestowitz__

let alone run a site or develop a project for more than a single impulsive week

schestowitz__

BTW

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pleroma.site was offline after a drive crash

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with not a very good backup

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many false promises of repair

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and then finances used as excuse to keep it offline

schestowitz__

SoylentNews just lost the whole site

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and last backup was from April

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so they lost a month's worth of stories, comments, users...

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awful

opal

im hosting my instance until i get stuff on volatile straightened away

schestowitz__

pleroma.fr also still offline

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also href

opal

mhm

opal

href's stats site is down too

schestowitz__

he had a tough year

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he told me

opal

hope it gets better for him

schestowitz__

online in freenode

schestowitz__

everyone seems to still be on here, except kaniini

CrystalMath

schestowitz__: i'm not leaving until freenode.net is unresonable

CrystalMath

err

CrystalMath

unresolvable

CrystalMath

is what i meant to write

CrystalMath

i'm not leaving until freenode.net is unresolvable (as a domain)

May 22 00:07

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schestowitz__

CrystalMath: makes sense

CrystalMath

i will also never

schestowitz__

CrystalMath: upside:

CrystalMath

join libera

schestowitz__

no more blog posts about this

schestowitz__

the discussion is almost over now

CrystalMath

i mean i already connected but never permanently

schestowitz__

based on tons of RSS feeds

schestowitz__

so what didn't move is less likely to move

CrystalMath

i've been spamming the lee-side.pdf hard everywhere

CrystalMath

i posted it on every channel

schestowitz__

6,000 people fetched the PDF of Andrew from techrights.org

CrystalMath

i'm gonna send a letter to chief gnuisance as well

schestowitz__

that hopefully adds some balance

schestowitz__

in blogs I see it's always imbalanced

May 22 00:11

schestowitz__

people afraid to be seen as ungrateful to staff

May 22 00:11

schestowitz__

unlike "THAT FOREIGN SAUDI CROWN PRICE"

May 22 00:11

schestowitz__

the media is even worse

schestowitz__

egging on with that narrative

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and use partisan politics

schestowitz__

"Trumpian" or "Trumpist"

schestowitz__

(which is also false, afaik)

opal

ok yeah correction about the staff pm

opal

the dude who claimed he was threatened... he got banned from several channels here

opal

just a troll

opal

definitely not looking in his favour

techrights-bot

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https://gist.github.com/aaronmdjones/1a9a93ded5b7d162c3f58bdd66b8f491

schestowitz__

can't remember the last time we banned anybody

May 22 00:14

schestowitz__

except when freenode had spampedemics

May 22 00:14

XRevan86

XRevan86

> (2021-05-11 17:54:16) rasengan: Hey Freenode Staff! Hope you're well. A message from the official board of Freenode Limited, owner of thefreenode IRC network: kevinp is in charge of infrastructure and has been legally resolved into this position by the board of Freenode. Please work with him to get his access and credentials in place smoothly.

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schestowitz__

brb coffee and feeding the fish

XRevan86

That's an important bit I previously overlooked.

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Are ye sure ye are not rushing to conclusions?

May 22 00:16

XRevan86

Backing a horse while not everything has been made clear.

May 22 00:16

baronhk[m]1

schestowitz The Computerworld article about Windows 10 21H1 is packed full of typos and pretty much goes on and on about nothing.

May 22 00:16

baronhk[m]1

IDG is pretty bad these days.

schestowitz__

typical enderle

schestowitz__

demented shill

CrystalMath

XRevan86: honestly, even if freenode turns out bad, i will not go to libera

CrystalMath

instead i will just stay on rizon

CrystalMath

i wanted to leave freenode while the old staff was here

CrystalMath

now that old freenode has left me

baronhk[m]1

He got basic facts about the Windows 10 GUI changes wrong and 10X cancelation.

CrystalMath

and the new freenode is here, and it's so far good

schestowitz__

XRevan86: that was after the domain access dispute, I think

baronhk[m]1

The GUI update is coming later this year.

schestowitz__

maybe he was concerned about a takeover

schestowitz__

a hostile takeover

schestowitz__

from him

schestowitz__

technical takeover

schestowitz__

hence approached lawyers

baronhk[m]1

21H1 is more or less a placeholder release and it just cleans some things up.

schestowitz__

'cleans'

MinceR

H1N1?

CrystalMath

XRevan86: Aaron Jones signed the anti-RMS petition, he is DEAD to me

baronhk[m]1

It's unlikely to break anything because it does not make deep changes to the operating system.

schestowitz__

I've not been keeping track of Vista10

schestowitz__

but it seems awful from afar

CrystalMath

XRevan86: i will not listen to even one of his lies

CrystalMath

basically, if you sign the anti-RMS petition, everything you say is most likely a lie

baronhk[m]1

Your Phone Companion can be removed, but you have to do it with GetAppxPackage because the uninstall has been grayed out.

baronhk[m]1

That's by far one of the most annoying things.

baronhk[m]1

The update added more links to OneDrive but they did nothing on my computer because I had removed OneDrive, so I had to delete the shortcuts.

schestowitz__

/tmp/rms-open-letter.github.io$ git log | grep Aaron

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Author: Ben Aaron Goldberg <ben@benaaron.dev>

schestowitz__

Author: Aaron Marais <its_me@aaronleem.co.za>

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Author: Aaron Niskode-Dossett <aniskodedossett@etsy.com>

schestowitz__

Author: Aaron <37417949+brotheraaron@users.noreply.github.com>

schestowitz__

Add Aaron D Borden

schestowitz__

Author: Aaron D Borden <adborden@a14n.net>

schestowitz__

Add Aaron D Borden

May 22 00:21

baronhk[m]1

Your Phone will use up about 300 MB of RAM to do terrible screen mirroring and constantly annoy you with desktop popups about texts and app spam on your phone.

May 22 00:21

schestowitz__

maybe added over email?

May 22 00:21

XRevan86

schestowitz__: Seems like it.

May 22 00:22

schestowitz__

by neil McGOVERNMENT?

May 22 00:22

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May 22 00:22

baronhk[m]1

Oddly, Mail and Calendar can be removed through the GUI.

May 22 00:23

baronhk[m]1

It seems there's no rhyme or reason for what Microsoft lets you remove and what they don't and what they do but you have to know some command prompt-fu.

May 22 00:23

XRevan86

schestowitz__: But I think it's evident that the approach taken to resolve the conflict was to replace parts of the staff.

May 22 00:23

XRevan86

bypassing the Freenode procedure completely (not the Freenode, Ltd. procedure)

schestowitz__

git log -p | tail -n100000 | grep Aaron | grep Jones

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-1. Aaron Jones

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+1. Aaron Jones

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1. Aaron Jones

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1. Aaron Jones

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+1. Aaron Jones

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1. Aaron Jones

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1. Aaron Jones

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+1. Aaron Jones

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-1. Aaron Jones

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+1. Aaron Jones

schestowitz__

commit 60d422b3186a8e7811d2c809a224cbe67775b890

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Author: Elana Hashman <ehashman@users.noreply.github.com>

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Date: Tue Mar 23 15:04:39 2021 -0700

schestowitz__

early signing

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by Microsoft/Azure Hashman

XRevan86

schestowitz__: He definitely tried to do more than take back access to the registrar account.

baronhk[m]1

I think Edge isn't a terrible browser, but they definitely need to fix a few things.

schestowitz__

he as in Andrew?

schestowitz__

baronhk[m]1: technically?

schestowitz__

remember who controls it

schestowitz__

and many people add microsoft root access for it

baronhk[m]1

Technically, yeah, they do add some good features to Chrome.

schestowitz__

so they get to install any malware they want...

baronhk[m]1

Eh, Mozilla closed the bug to work on memory reduction through SegmentHeap.

baronhk[m]1

They continue to use the legacy NT Heap, and so Firefox GUZZLES memory.

MinceR

i prefer Brave to Idiot Edgesploiter

XRevan86

schestowitz__: yea

baronhk[m]1

Brave and Vivaldi made good progress on bringing down RAM usage on Windows 10.

techrights-bot

TIL: many overlaps between those who tried to crush the FSF (by picking on a person) and those who not try this on #freenode ... don't want to name any names though

baronhk[m]1

Vivaldi more than Brave.

MinceR

replacing Backdoors10 with GNU/Linux makes even better progress at that

techrights-bot

Tribalism and cliques inside #freenode ... I was warned about this a long time ago, but after the anti-RMS coup attempt http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/

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baronhk[m]1

Biden continues chipping at his infrastructure bill to get Republican votes that aren't there.

baronhk[m]1

They're a unified front to try to crash his presidency into the rocks and it seems he doesn't get it. Half of them continue to claim that Trump won and was cheated.

baronhk[m]1

About a quarter of them side with the January 6th criminals.

May 22 00:32

search_social

i would hardly call the republicans a unified front considering that half of them claim trump didn't win

May 22 00:33

search_social

in fact that's pretty much the definition of a NOT unified front

May 22 00:34

techrights-bot

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May 22 00:34

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baronhk[m]1

They're unified in that they want Biden to fail.

May 22 00:37

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schestowitz__

baronhk[m]1: no

May 22 00:43

schestowitz__

they want the country to fail

May 22 00:43

schestowitz__

so more unemployed racists will vote GOPKKK

May 22 00:43

schestowitz__

insurrections don't work the first time around

schestowitz__

they try again and again

schestowitz__

until they succeed

schestowitz__

or sucede

schestowitz__

secede

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession#Secession_movements

schestowitz__

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baronhk[m]1

The Democrats are doing a fine job of pushing voters to the right,

baronhk[m]1

Hyperinflation, letting criminals who rape and murder 6 year olds out of prison early to live in Chicago, backing people who set your car on fire.

baronhk[m]1

How could this possibly go wrong for them?

Redfoxmoon

picking a provably corrupt senile old man who's got one leg in the grave already too

May 22 00:46

Redfoxmoon

mmm, isn't it wonderful.

May 22 00:46

baronhk[m]1

After witnessing Pritzker's reforms, there's no way I can possibly support him as Governor of Illinois again.

May 22 00:46

baronhk[m]1

He was governing as a dictator, suspending whatever laws he felt like. Renewing "emergency powers" that the law only gave him for 30 days, for 14 months and counting.

May 22 00:47

baronhk[m]1

The text of the Illinois Emergency Management Act is pretty clear. The legislative intent was that if an emergency lasted more than 30 days, they would have to meet and decide whether to pass a law authorizing renewal, but none of them wanted to take a vote on it.

May 22 00:48

techrights-bot

A quarter of all #UMN patches are defects/sabotage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150248?page=1#comment-29724 #linux #kernel #sabotage

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Redfoxmoon

sounds very democratic party

techrights-bot

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baronhk[m]1

Yeah, the state court system is pretty fucked up.

baronhk[m]1

The FOID Act has been struck down twice now, but you still need a FOID card.

baronhk[m]1

Until this gets to the US Supreme Court and they gut it.

baronhk[m]1

We'll get there eventually, but probably not for a couple of years.

Redfoxmoon

FOID act?

techrights-bot

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baronhk[m]1

The Illinois state government requires you to apply for and receive a FOID card to buy, sell, or possess firearms or ammunition, which is interference with constitutional rights granted by both the state and federal constitutions.

Redfoxmoon

oic

baronhk[m]1

Neither of which say that the second amendment expires and needs to be renewed for a fee every 10 years.

Redfoxmoon

mm gotta love unconstitutional laws

Redfoxmoon

so many american democrats would surely love it in a bunch of western european countries

baronhk[m]1

Unfortunately, thanks to SCOTUS math that deferred to the states for all these years, FOID has been around forever even though a quarter of a million Illinoisans (mostly in Chicago) have been shot since it was enacted.

baronhk[m]1

And mostly by guns that were never in the FOID system.

Redfoxmoon

of course

Redfoxmoon

"whats that? the CRIMINALS DONT OBAY THE LAW?"

Redfoxmoon

"THATS ILLEGAL GOOD SIR."

schestowitz__

they might overturn wade soon

Redfoxmoon

-1 IQ.

schestowitz__

or rather revisit

schestowitz__

welcome, poland

baronhk[m]1

Overturning Roe wouldn't make abortion illegal. It would make it illegal in 22 states.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-57207961

schestowitz__

that's bad too

May 22 00:54

baronhk[m]1

That's less than half the states and slightly under a third of the US population.

May 22 00:54

baronhk[m]1

It's already functionally illegal in most of those 22 states anyway.

May 22 00:54

baronhk[m]1

So the situation doesn't change much. They've regulated all but 1 or 2 clinics out of the state and even then it's so hard to get one that it already is often easier to go to another state and shop a different legal system.

May 22 00:55

baronhk[m]1

Indiana only has like 2-3 clinics left I think and most people just drive to Illinois.

May 22 00:55

baronhk[m]1

State line abortion clinics will become even more of a thing.

May 22 00:55

liberty_box

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baronhk[m]1

Wisconsin made it so difficult to get an abortion that a Planned Parenthood opened in Waukegan last year. Right over the border.

techrights-bot

If those were humans, they wouldn't have shot them. But... you know, priorities and all. Bears "don't count"... behind bars, now under the ground. For being liberated for a little bit. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-57207961

baronhk[m]1

You can pretty much just get an Uber or take the train down for the day and then go back when you're done.

baronhk[m]1

We're already 90% of the way post-Roe.

Redfoxmoon

stuff like this should be fixed w/ changes to the states' laws

baronhk[m]1

In fact, I was talking to my ex about how insane the entire idea of re-litigating this is because the courts have already let things go this far.

Redfoxmoon

not bludging it through the supreme court

baronhk[m]1

Women sometimes give up and order abortion pills off of an app.

baronhk[m]1

There's an app where you can subscribe to the birth control pill for $15 a month without insurance.

baronhk[m]1

Some doctor you never see keep refilling it.

techrights-bot

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baronhk[m]1

Well, I'm just not sure how it ever gets so far that people need an abortion.

May 22 00:59

baronhk[m]1

You could just stack contraceptive methods so that they're so unlikely to all fail that you may as well not give it any thought.

May 22 00:59

baronhk[m]1

The fact that there's women out there who have had 3-4 abortions is just a testimony to how dumb people are.

May 22 01:00

baronhk[m]1

If they used the pill and made the guy wear a condom, or a condom and an ovulation predictor, or a pill and a sponge, or you know. Redundancy.

May 22 01:01

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May 22 01:02

baronhk[m]1

Most of the reason abortion is down seems to be because teen pregnancy especially and pregnancy in general is down.

May 22 01:03

baronhk[m]1

Planned Parenthood's finances weren't looking that good already.

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baronhk[m]1

They kept hitting me up for charitable donations.

alextee

liberia?

baronhk[m]1

Stallman puts petitions on his site that just lead to a lot of spam.

MinceR

they can't spell

baronhk[m]1

The tax law is basically set up so that you can deduct charitable donations, but it doesn't make sense to unless you itemize, which only the rich do.

May 22 01:06

CrystalMath

pinging the mods before starting the spam, that sounds dumb

May 22 01:06

MinceR

i doubt they're really looking for people to join their stupid channel

May 22 01:06

MinceR

they're trying to annoy people

May 22 01:07

MinceR

and masshighlights do that

May 22 01:07

kingoffrance

yeah this stuff was a thing past year or two, freenode has moved to x

May 22 01:08

kingoffrance

im sure you could find it in logs

May 22 01:08

baronhk[m]1

The NRA bankruptcy abuse case flopped.

May 22 01:08

baronhk[m]1

The judge ruled that their reason for filing bankruptcy was not primarily due to good faith debt that they couldn't pay, but rather to gain the upper hand in an ongoing legal dispute.

May 22 01:09

baronhk[m]1

The NRA is useless.

May 22 01:09

baronhk[m]1

They suck up a lot of the gun rights money because everyone donates to them, but they spend very little of it effectively challenging anything.

May 22 01:10

baronhk[m]1

It's not the NRA that's out to have the Illinois FOID Act thrown out. When that happens, it will be the Illinois State Rifle Association that backed the suit that led to this.

May 22 01:10

baronhk[m]1

So oddly enough, I'm pro-second amendment but I hope New York does cause the NRA to collapse.

May 22 01:10

baronhk[m]1

People will join state rifle associations and give them their money and those associations will use it to sue the crap out of the state in a legal system they actually understand.

May 22 01:11

baronhk[m]1

New York would be dealing gun owners a much bigger blow by allowing Wayne LaPierre to continue running the NRA like his own personal piggybank instead of fighting to get gun laws changed.

May 22 01:12

baronhk[m]1

A dollar people donate to the NRA instead of ISRA means a dollar that Wayne spends on another boat instead of trying to gut the FOID Act.

baronhk[m]1

The NRA is the televangelists of gun groups.

MinceR

or they'll spend it on ads that attack video games or movies

baronhk[m]1

They get your money because Jesus and meanwhile in the backroom it's private planes, hookers, and blow.

baronhk[m]1

<MinceR "or they'll spend it on ads that "> Which is oddly the exact stance on video games that the Democrats have.

May 22 01:14

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XRevan86

(00:36:47) velix: Joanna: I've visited #freenode some hours before to report massive spam and ugly messages about child abuse. 2500 users in there, no response.

May 22 01:50

XRevan86

opal, rasengan: Is the new staff in #freenode?

May 22 01:50

opal

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baronhk[m]1

Microsoft is packing so much crap into the taskbar.

May 22 02:01

baronhk[m]1

I keep having to back it out.

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CrystalMath

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baronhk[m]1

MinceR

CrystalMath: was there no room for supporting RMS?

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baronhk[m]1

Apple is very progressive.

CrystalMath

MinceR: i only had pro-free software now

CrystalMath

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CrystalMath

MinceR: maybe i should make a universal quit message :P

CrystalMath

it would go like this... "You know that thing everyone is doing now? Don't do that, it's a trap"

CrystalMath

it would spare me from having to change it all the time :P

MinceR

lol

MinceR

everyone is breathing, it's a trap

May 22 02:42

CrystalMath

i just mean, find the latest trend and store into x, print "don't do" + x

May 22 02:43

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May 22 02:43

baronhk[m]1

MARISOL got ruined by the Bitcoin plunge.

May 22 02:43

baronhk[m]1

Throwing lots of money at it and telling everyone how smart she was because it only goes up.

May 22 02:44

baronhk[m]1

Windows is actually far less obnoxious since I purged that Your Phone Companion app.

May 22 02:45

baronhk[m]1

You can blow away a lot of the bloatware, but it keeps trying to push things on you.

May 22 02:45

baronhk[m]1

Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. A lot of what appears on your desktop is just useless chatter.

May 22 02:46

baronhk[m]1

MinceR: schestowitz__ Microsoft Edge is enlightening in a couple ways.

May 22 02:47

MinceR

(cat) https://ircz.de/p/21032815

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baronhk[m]1

1. Microsoft has clearly lost confidence in their Windows Store and AppX, even though they won't admit it. Even on Windows 10, Edge isn't packaged as AppX.

baronhk[m]1

2. They dumped it in Program Files (x86) even though it's a 64-bit program.

MinceR

lol

May 22 02:49

MinceR

why

May 22 02:49

baronhk[m]1

That violates the convention of putting 32-bit software there and 64-bit in Program Files.

May 22 02:49

XRevan86

maybe they realised they're both x86? :)

XRevan86

And now will put RISC-V software into Program Files maybe

MinceR

lol

MinceR

they used to be deluded into believing that x86_64 was called "x64"

MinceR

(which seems to fit alpha better)

May 22 02:51

MinceR

(21064)

May 22 02:51

XRevan86

MinceR: It was obvious from the beginning that that convention won't age well, except to Microsoft and Oracle of course.

May 22 02:53

MinceR

May 22 02:53

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XRevan86

They called an IA-64 version of Windows XP as 64-bit but when they had to present a x86-64 version something in them broke and they called it x64

XRevan86

The Intel x architecture?

MinceR

lol

MinceR

only intel knows what's in it

MinceR

...and the NSA

XRevan86

MinceR: It's actually a 3

XRevan86

or rather {3,4,5,6}

baronhk[m]1

IA-64 was as much of an engineering fail as it was a pricing and marketing fail.

MinceR

earlier versions are also often referred to as x86

MinceR

baronhk[m]1: how so?

baronhk[m]1

Incompatibility with x86.

XRevan86

x in x86 means i386, i486, i586, so that's that

MinceR

that's a problem only in windowsland

XRevan86

ix86 → x86 → x

baronhk[m]1

It had compatibility either through an x86 core or emulation depending on which one you bought.

MinceR

XRevan86: [citation needed]

baronhk[m]1

But it was very slow.

MinceR

8086, 80186, 80286, 80386

May 22 02:59

XRevan86

MinceR: Right, it means all the others too

May 22 02:59

XRevan86

it's a digit is what I'm saying

May 22 02:59

XRevan86

except that for x86-64 there's no real digit there, but maybe it's… imaginary?

May 22 03:01

MinceR

May 22 03:01

MinceR

is that what the 'i' stands for? :>

May 22 03:01

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MinceR

"we rotated the socket by 90 degrees"

XRevan86

MinceR: No, it means 80 %)

MinceR

MinceR

80ntel 80nside

CrystalMath

it's called amd64

May 22 03:03

CrystalMath

May 22 03:03

baronhk[m]1

The Intel version is called Intel64.

XRevan86

Why are we talking about Itanium again?

MinceR

lol

*MinceR removes ban on *!*@2a0d:5600:24:ab7::b18d

MinceR

intel originally called it "EM64T", and later realized that nobody is going to memorize that and renamed it to "Intel 64"

May 22 03:05

MinceR

apparently it took them 2 years to realize that

May 22 03:05

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XRevan86

MinceR: Honeslty, it's easier for me to memorise "EM64T" than to memorise which one's which.

XRevan86

between IA-64 and Intel 64

MinceR

lol

MinceR

it's easy

XRevan86

the name that sounds more like a marketing name is newer?

MinceR

IA32 is x86 (or 386), IA64 is itanium

MinceR

(or itanic)

May 22 03:07

XRevan86

that's a good mnemonic rule indeed

May 22 03:07

MinceR

iirc the whole IA* thing comes from back when intel didn't think they'll need to license AMD64

May 22 03:07

XRevan86

The x86-32 and x86-64 versions of the name are definitely more universal.

MinceR

then they went around telling everyone that the itanic is never going to have economy of scale (plus you're supposed to run windows anyway), and oh wow, it failed in the market

XRevan86

and IA-32 is fine too as it's unambiguous and simple

MinceR

i haven't encountered "x86-32" before

MinceR

still, i suspect that producing a successor that could execute more instructions in parallel would have been incompatible

May 22 03:09

MinceR

and so everyone would have to recompile everything for it

May 22 03:09

XRevan86

MinceR: It's a reasonable generaliasation of the newer naming scheme: x86-16 (IA-32), x86-32 (IA-64), x86-64 (AMD64).

May 22 03:10

MinceR

this industry doesn't do "reasonable", especially intel :>

May 22 03:10

XRevan86

MinceR: They don't sell IA-16 and IA-32 anymore either.

May 22 03:11

XRevan86

I know that AMD recently was still selling some IA-16 for legacy embedded, but that's probably discountinued by now.

May 22 03:11

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May 22 03:15

XRevan86

although those aren't really x86-16 as they're darn bloody 80188's

May 22 03:16

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May 22 03:21

baronhk[m]1

This may explain why there's only one Edge installed where there were two Internet Explorers.

May 22 03:25

baronhk[m]1

The AnyCPU feature of Visual Studio basically creates a fat binary.

May 22 03:25

baronhk[m]1

So you could run it on either a 32-bit or 64-bit CPU and the program will still run.

May 22 03:25

XRevan86

baronhk[m]1: Are ye sure it's not because they didn't want to maintain compatibility with 32-bit toolbars and modules?

May 22 03:26

baronhk[m]1

Edge would be a 32-bit application if ran on the 32-bit version of Windows.

May 22 03:27

baronhk[m]1

This basically lets them compile it once for all Windows systems it runs on.

May 22 03:27

XRevan86

baronhk[m]1: There's no point though.

May 22 03:27

MinceR

well, they like bloat

May 22 03:28

MinceR

making your executable twice as big could be seen as desirable :>

May 22 03:28

XRevan86

It's not like a user would actually take that executable and move it to a different system.

May 22 03:28

XRevan86

they're more likely to literally do nothing since that motherbucker will sideload onto their Windows all by itself

May 22 03:29

baronhk[m]1

Not on Windows 7 and 8.

May 22 03:29

XRevan86

and since the default installer is online, it can just pick the architecture while downloading

May 22 03:29

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May 22 03:30

XRevan86

baronhk[m]1: O.K., the poor sod that for some reason wants MSEdge will get an installer instead of copying the files anyway.

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XRevan86

on Windows 7

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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/seagates-new-mach-2-is-the-worlds-fastest-conventional-hard-drive/ weird

XRevan86

Either the online installer that will pick the architecture during installation or the offline installer that is intended for "advanced" users and has not one but three drop-down menus to choose from.

May 22 03:32

XRevan86

And they'd still need the "platform" drop-down menu for GNU/Linux, macOS and Windows aarch64

May 22 03:33

XRevan86

even if they join together Windows IA-32 and Windows x86-64

May 22 03:33

XRevan86

baronhk[m]1: In other words, this would serve no purpose but to waste space on everyone's drive.

May 22 03:34

XRevan86

May 22 03:34

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May 22 03:34

MinceR

maybe the idea is that the user wants to download Idiot Edgesploiter and is too much of an idiot to know whether they have an x86_64 cpu

MinceR

and with a fat binary, that doesn't matter

XRevan86

MinceR: So they pick the "arm64" version because that's x64 too

namarrgo1

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CrystalMath

MinceR

*MinceR sets ban on *!*@2001:ac8:9a:9::b47d

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CrystalMath

liberians again

MinceR

from africa?

CrystalMath

MinceR: it literally says "#liberia"

MinceR

XRevan86: :)

CrystalMath

not "#libera"....

MinceR

i know, they said "LIBERIA" before

XRevan86

The spammers probably find that allusion funny.

CrystalMath

i wonder if it's a joke or idk

CrystalMath

XRevan86: ah

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Clearly these spammers are dead-serious

XRevan86

about the Jews, the CP and Liberia, all serious

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/google-docs-write-gender-neutral-terms

XRevan86

and trustworthy as always

May 22 03:38

MinceR

and law-abiding

May 22 03:38

alextee

May 22 03:50

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxbusiness.com | Google Docs to suggest users write using gender-neutral terms | Fox Business

May 22 03:50

saint_dogbert

Just because of that gender nonsense, I go out of my way to assign gender to inanimate objects...

May 22 03:53

MinceR

are you going to switch to german? :>

May 22 03:53

saint_dogbert

May 22 03:54

XRevan86

> Google Docs should suggest gender-neutral terms in romance languages, where even inanimate objects are either feminine or masculine and there's no way around it. LOL

May 22 03:57

XRevan86

This commenter should be grateful that Google doesn't suggest to them use of a more inclusive language.

May 22 03:58

XRevan86

saint_dogbert: Ships and swords, right?

May 22 03:58

XRevan86

Has anyone tried to use "they" towards a ship or a sword?

May 22 03:59

saint_dogbert

Good luck convincing any sailor to call his ship a 'They'

May 22 04:00

saint_dogbert

It's always she or he

May 22 04:00

MinceR

i'll call ships 'it'

May 22 04:00

XRevan86

saint_dogbert: any sailor but "his"? ay-yiay-yiay

May 22 04:01

saint_dogbert

May 22 04:02

XRevan86

MinceR: Apparently there are simply some unavoidable sexual undertones to sailing.

May 22 04:05

XRevan86

Also swordspersonship and being a mechanic

May 22 04:06

MinceR

or people want english to be less clean, less logical and more complex

May 22 04:06

XRevan86

MinceR: That ship has sailed

May 22 04:08

MinceR

what was that ship called?

May 22 04:08

saint_dogbert

Critical Theory

MinceR

doesn't sound female to me :>

saint_dogbert

XRevan86

MinceR: Mrs. Clean Logical Simplicity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzyhqtbNWKw

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May 22 04:12

XRevan86

Never read it was, a mirage.

May 22 04:12

XRevan86

Never real it was, a mirage.

May 22 04:13

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May 22 04:14

MinceR

there's a reason some people say english is a creole

May 22 04:14

MinceR

May 22 04:15

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May 22 04:16

XRevan86

MinceR: Creoles are typically very clean, logical and simple as they have no baggage of complexity and sophistication.

May 22 04:18

CrystalMath

XRevan86: not quite true

May 22 04:19

CrystalMath

yes, they're usually simple, but they still have historic stuff that is unexplainable by the simple rules

May 22 04:19

MinceR

https://web.archive.org/web/20210419135834/http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4710

May 22 04:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | English is a Scandinavian language? – Armed and Dangerous

May 22 04:20

XRevan86

They're also more redundant in expression due to an almost complete lack of synthetic features.

May 22 04:20

CrystalMath

what do you call synthetic features?

May 22 04:21

CrystalMath

if you mean like synthetic languages... most are

May 22 04:21

CrystalMath

they're just slightly less synthetic

May 22 04:21

XRevan86

CrystalMath: I mean in a broader sense.

May 22 04:23

XRevan86

creoles are more likely to say big-big than bigger

May 22 04:23

MinceR

https://web.archive.org/web/20170115203737im_/http://www.winterson.com/pics2/botw18.jpg

https://web.archive.org/web/20210420201410/http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7465

MinceR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Four modes of creole formation – Armed and Dangerous

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baronhk[m]1

<XRevan86 "Baron Vladimir Harkonnen: In oth"> Apple does this whenever they change architectures so there's no confusion about which binary to get.

May 22 04:28

XRevan86

baronhk[m]1: Ye mentioned a specific scenario, and I explained why that wouldn't make sense.

May 22 04:33

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May 22 04:39

baronhk[m]1

Some people were shooting at each other outside.

May 22 04:40

baronhk[m]1

Called the cops.

May 22 04:40

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May 22 04:40

XRevan86

I was surprised until I saw who wrote that.

May 22 04:41

MinceR

May 22 04:42

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CrystalMath

MinceR

*MinceR sets ban on *!*@2606:2e00:8007:1::a32d

*MinceR has kicked namarrgo1 from #techrights (die)

MinceR

maybe i should mute unregistered users

MinceR

i'll need to sleep at some point

CrystalMath

yeah

Snuupy

MinceR: please don't allow unreg users to talk in this chan

Snuupy

I think it's +R

MinceR

it's more complicated here, iirc

CrystalMath

+q $~a

CrystalMath

simplest

saint_dogbert

someone sure is desperate to get people to join that net network

MinceR

or to stir up conflict between irc networks and users

*MinceR sets mode +q #techrights $~a

CrystalMath

saint_dogbert: yeah i think the "liberia" kinda makes me think no

CrystalMath

it's not that

CrystalMath

it's some regular trolls who hate both networks

MinceR

the "your noob ircd" phrase also suggested that (earlier)

CrystalMath

maybe they like discord or something

MinceR

since freenode and libera use closely related ircds

CrystalMath

MinceR: we got it on LunarIRC which is totally different

CrystalMath

same message

MinceR

MinceR

it seems only unrealircd and inspircd have the spamfilter feature, which is a pity

May 22 04:50

saint_dogbert

In truth, its probably some reject thats spent a few years nursing a grudge against freenode for some imaginary crime

May 22 04:51

CrystalMath

or someone actually removed from freenode for an imaginary crime

CrystalMath

the old staff was ruthless

MinceR

indeed

saint_dogbert

Tell me about it.

saint_dogbert

I upset one staffer and he used his authority to get my ops status in several channels removed

May 22 04:53

saint_dogbert

back in... 2011?

May 22 04:53

alextee

lol someone said

May 22 05:01

alextee

>touching a file is sexual assault

May 22 05:01

MinceR

lol

May 22 05:01

saint_dogbert

lol

MinceR

you laugh, but someone is going to take it seriously

alextee

i am sure of it

saint_dogbert

Got a name to go with that comment? I need to submit that to bash

MinceR

maybe it will be part of a slog against unix, in favor of systemd

CrystalMath

saint_dogbert: eh, 2011 is before the ex-freenode staff

May 22 05:05

CrystalMath

that was ex-ex-staff

May 22 05:05

CrystalMath

these just kline you for 1 bad word

May 22 05:05

alextee

saint_dogbert, "Anonymous"

May 22 05:07

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May 22 05:10

schestowitz__

Liberia LOL

May 22 05:32

schestowitz__

no better endorsement than SPAM

May 22 05:32

schestowitz__

network for vandals and rascals

May 22 05:33

saint_dogbert

Founded by liars and misfits for liars and misfits

May 22 05:34

saint_dogbert

if the rumors are true anyway

May 22 05:34

schestowitz__

maybe too broad a generalisation

May 22 05:34

saint_dogbert

How would you characterize the founders and current residents?

schestowitz__

in Liberia [sic]?

schestowitz__

Is there one founder or leader there?

schestowitz__

seems like a collective

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May 22 05:36

saint_dogbert

George Tawlon Manneh Oppong Ousman Weah

May 22 05:36

saint_dogbert

Current president of Liberia

May 22 05:36

saint_dogbert

If you mean Libre whatever, rumor is Tomaw is in charge

May 22 05:38

schestowitz__

I assumed so

May 22 05:39

schestowitz__

because he was voted to lead while in freenode

May 22 05:39

saint_dogbert

I guess he is supposed to own the network and have some kind of partial ownership or lease of the servers aiding that network. Do you have better info on that?

May 22 05:42

saint_dogbert

I haven't really followed the drama, but it seems to be in nearly every channel

May 22 05:42

schestowitz__

if they spam, it might...

May 22 05:45

schestowitz__

I didn't think it would come to this...

May 22 05:45

schestowitz__

brb coffee

May 22 05:45

schestowitz__

I also need to work on a long article after that, back to serious things, wish we didn't have to fight over the network

May 22 05:46

saint_dogbert

Let them have their little utopia. Whomever wishes to follow will do so.

May 22 05:47

saint_dogbert

Freenode isn't going to disappear because some staffers that hoped to inherit the network found out they never will

May 22 05:48

saint_dogbert

and threw a hellacious hissy fit over it

May 22 05:48

schestowitz__

yup

May 22 05:50

*schestowitz__ back with coffee... to writing

May 22 05:51

alextee

the #libera channel in lebera.chat says in the topic: The spam on other networks isn't us -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job

May 22 06:09

saint_dogbert

With the run-ins I've had with some of them, they could tell me the time of day and I'd still check the nearest clock.

May 22 06:12

psydroid

<MinceR "there's a reason some people say"> of all the Germanic languages I know and speak English is the one that stands out the most as being different, just like French in the family of Romance languages

May 22 06:16

schestowitz__

ddos attack

May 22 06:19

schestowitz__

on us

May 22 06:19

schestowitz__

staved off now

May 22 06:20

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schestowitz__

ok, done articles..

schestowitz__

hopefully all back to 'normal' today

schestowitz__

sans that spam from "liberia"

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May 22 07:01

schestowitz__

> My diaspora timeline felt too sparse and quiet.

schestowitz__

schestowitz__

> Turns out I haven't got any posts from you for almost 30 hours.

schestowitz__

schestowitz__

> That's very very unusual.

schestowitz__

schestowitz__

> I hope you're all right.

schestowitz__

schestowitz__

> With friendly concern,

schestowitz__

There was a temporary issue, also with Twitter exports. Is it OK now?

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schestowitz__

kakama: hi

May 22 07:20

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May 22 07:32

schestowitz__

https://freenode.net/

schestowitz__

looks OK

schestowitz__

the Shells logo is not so prominent

schestowitz__

hard to see why THAT much fuss

https://freenode.net/people

schestowitz__

schestowitz__

schestowitz__

kloeri is head of infrastructure, in charge of making sure that the network continues to run in a usable fashion and that we have the right hardware and server platforms in place to provide the services we want.

schestowitz__

ilbelkyr is head of IRCd and services development, in charge of the software platforms that we use to run the network.

schestowitz__

Swant is head of web development, in charge of the websites and web services we provide.

schestowitz__

tomaw is head of staffing, projects and communities and also the overall project lead in charge of the other heads.

schestowitz__

schestowitz__

are they all gone?

schestowitz__

https://freenode.net/acknowledgements thanks GNU

May 22 07:48

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schestowitz

it now looks like in order to register I did need to provide an email address

schestowitz

so it's not a new requirement

http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/ads-freenode.png

schestowitz

syntax a decade or more ago: /nickserv register PASSWORD EMAIL

May 22 07:51

trttl

can confirm. when i regged this nick 6 years ago i had to provide an email

May 22 07:54

trttl

>hard to see why THAT much fuss - that was just an arbitrary casus belli. the pia logo had been there at the exact same place for years and no one had a problem with it

May 22 07:55

trttl

andrew lee mentions this in his pdf and you can verify it with wayback machine or w/e

May 22 08:01

schestowitz

May 22 08:04

schestowitz

2013

May 22 08:04

schestowitz

PIA

May 22 08:04

schestowitz

or LTM

May 22 08:05

trttl

ltm is/was the parent company of pia no?

May 22 08:10

trttl

https://web.archive.org/web/20160623060428/http://freenode.net/

May 22 08:10

trttl

see the top right corner

May 22 08:10

schestowitz

I move all the way to 2021

May 22 08:13

schestowitz

and there is no top bar

May 22 08:13

schestowitz

on the slidebar

May 22 08:13

schestowitz

oh wait

schestowitz

it's obscured by the slider

https://web.archive.org/web/20210521214004/https://freenode.net/

schestowitz

schestowitz

Shells

schestowitz

10th of May

18th https://web.archive.org/web/20210518142310/https://freenode.net/

schestowitz

Also here: https://web.archive.org/web/20210520182521/https://freenode.net/

May 22 08:15

trttl

yeah just zap that wayback toolbar div

May 22 08:15

schestowitz

May 22 08:15

schestowitz

April https://web.archive.org/web/20210414175845/https://freenode.net/

May 22 08:16

schestowitz

Shells logo there

May 22 08:16

schestowitz

so it goes further back than I thought

May 22 08:16

schestowitz

and indeed it said PIA in 2016

schestowitz

so now it points to his brother's business

schestowitz

so a placement/ads isn't a new thing at all

schestowitz

5+ years

https://web.archive.org/web/20150621211049/http://freenode.net/

schestowitz

May 22 08:18

schestowitz

even MORE prominent

May 22 08:18

schestowitz

see the PIA logo in 2015

May 22 08:19

schestowitz

bigger than the freenode logo (almost)

May 22 08:19

schestowitz

over time the ad shrank

May 22 08:19

schestowitz

2014: https://web.archive.org/web/20140622005721/http://freenode.net/

May 22 08:21

schestowitz

osc+pia 2013: https://web.archive.org/web/20130618132435/http://freenode.net/

May 22 08:21

schestowitz

Canonical: https://web.archive.org/web/20110616212745/http://freenode.net/

May 22 08:23

schestowitz

2008: https://web.archive.org/web/20080509092721/http://freenode.net/

May 22 08:25

schestowitz

3 ads

May 22 08:25

schestowitz

2005: https://web.archive.org/web/20050511002931/http://freenode.net/

May 22 08:26

schestowitz

one ad

May 22 08:26

schestowitz

Freenode Ads/Company Banners Are a 2-Decade Tradition Which Predates PIA/LTM

May 22 08:32

schestowitz

I will do a quick post

schestowitz

to dispel revisionist history

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schestowitz

looks like rasengan and now his brother have long held freenode in shape that's sustainable

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schestowitz

trttl: there. http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-ads/

May 22 08:48

trttl

good post

May 22 08:50

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schestowitz

testing

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ddos vs techrights

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a burst

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second in the past few hours

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A bunch of #patent #profiteers and sociopaths condemn decisions to let poor people too have access to medicines (or vaccines). For the sake of their profits (greed) they want to kill millions of people, just to keep prices artificially high. These are also #TeamUPC (here). http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/20/de-boufflers-collective-position-paper-the-waiving-of-intellectual-property-a-poor-response-to-a-real-

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#watchtroll is meanwhile boosting the racist party of #sedition for the sake of attacking #vaccine #patent waivers, in effect calling for the death of millions of people, 'backed' by a party of bigots and traitors. What a truly awful and sociopathic site...

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The independence of the Boards of Appeal has long been compromised (and #AntónioCampinos recently exploited that to green-light European #softwarepatents ), as judges pointed out repeatedly, so we look back at who protested this and who did not • ፕቿርዘዪጎኗዘፕነ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/the-missing-boa-signatures/ •●• #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021

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"The spin off company provides a mechanism to transfer folks and unwanted assets there. Then it becomes the problem of the spin off company on day1 to get rid of any folks or any assets that are not wanted." #ibm #redhat https://www.thelayoff.com/t/184dZszC

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#ibm is like #epo ATM. "Last year was truly an interesting year. As far as IBM goes I saw a lot of older people decide to leave and it has continued into this year. (talking in systems). These were people who worked hard and enjoyed their work most of the time." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aXWweHP

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"when the pandemic wore on during 2020 many I now starting to realize there is more life than giving all your time to #IBM . Many began talking to their CFPs about their ability to retire, now!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aXWweHP

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The EPO’s War on #Justice and Assault on the #Law — Part 16: The Mystery of the “Missing Signatures” http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/the-missing-boa-signatures/ #EPO

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It took 'over 80 different developers' to review and fix 'mess' made by students who sneaked bad code into Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150248?page=1#comment-29726

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[09:22] <techrights-bot> #Freenode Ads/Company Banners Are a 2-Decade Tradition Which Predates PIA/LTM http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-ads/ facts do matter, don't they?

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first minor netplit in a while

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Screenshots to dispel revisionist #freenode history; all those screenshots can be clicked on for full view and verified with the #InternetArchive http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-ads/ #internet #history #irc

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it's baack

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmTPpIxukD0 well-mannered cattle

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cattle Race Downhill in Response to Owner Calling Them At Ranch - 1193418 - YouTube

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● NEWS ● #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #ColonialPipeline CEO to testify on Capitol Hill in June following cyberattack https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/554644-colonial-pipeline-ceo-to-testify-on-capitol-hill-in-june-following

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Colonial Pipeline CEO to testify on Capitol Hill in June following cyberattack | TheHill

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● NEWS ● #Wired #ProprietarySoftware ☞ The Full Story of the Stunning RSA [Crack] Can Finally Be Told https://www.wired.com/story/the-full-story-of-the-stunning-rsa-hack-can-finally-be-told/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Full Story of the Stunning RSA Hack Can Finally Be Told | WIRED

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schestowitz

just done another video about freenode

May 22 11:02

schestowitz

about half an hour long

May 22 11:02

schestowitz

transcoding etc.

May 22 11:02

techrights-bot

● NEWS ● #YLE #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Finland joins #EU Covid digital passport deal https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finland_joins_eu_covid_digital_passport_deal/11942706 http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Finland joins EU Covid digital passport deal | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights

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● NEWS ● #ComputerWorld #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Vaccine passports: The answer to re-opening the #UK economy? https://www.computerworld.com/article/3619022/vaccine-passports-the-answer-to-re-opening-the-uk-economy.html http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vaccine passports: The answer to re-opening the UK economy? | Computerworld

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● NEWS ● #NewYorkTimes #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #ShoshanaZuboff Explains Why You Should Care About Privacy https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/21/technology/shoshana-zuboff-apple-google-privacy.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Shoshana Zuboff Explains Why You Should Care About Privacy - The New York Times

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● NEWS ● #TheHill #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Twitter drop photo-cropping function after racial bias complaints https://thehill.com/policy/technology/554866-twitter-drop-photo-cropping-function-after-racial-bias-complaints

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Twitter drop photo-cropping function after racial bias complaints | TheHill

schestowitz

taking it down

schestowitz

to avoid bad press

schestowitz

corporations

techrights-bot

● NEWS ● #PatrickBreyer #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Pirates: Deal On COVID Certificate Guarantees Privacy https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/pirates-deal-on-covid-certificate-guarantees-privacy/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Pirates: Deal on COVID certificate guarantees privacy – Patrick Breyer

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● NEWS ● #NDTV #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Tesla Cars Said to Be Barred From Some China Government Compounds Due to Security Concerns Over In-Car Cameras https://gadgets.ndtv.com/transportation/news/tesla-car-ban-china-government-compounds-security-camera-spying-elon-musk-2446608

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | Tesla Cars Said to Be Barred From Some China Government Compounds Due to Security Concerns Over In-Car Cameras | Technology News

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● [Old] ● #NewYorkTimes #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Apple #AirTag Review: A Humble Tracker With Next-Generation Tech https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/technology/personaltech/apple-airtag-review-tile.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Apple AirTag Review: Next-Generation Tech in a Humble Tracker - The New York Times

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● NEWS ● #WCCFTech # ☞ Apple, #Google & #Microsoft Have Teamed up to Block the #RightToRepair Law https://wccftech.com/apple-google-microsoft-team-up-to-stop-right-to-repair-law/ http://techrights.org/2019/08/04/righttorepair/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wccftech.com | Apple, Google & Microsoft Have Teamed up to Block the Right-to-Repair Law

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s War on the Right to Repair (One’s Own Computers) Makes Lundgren an ‘Enemy’ to Microsoft | Techrights

techrights-bot

● NEWS ● #Bloomberg # ☞ #Microsoft and #Apple Wage War on Gadget Right-to-Repair Laws https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-20/microsoft-and-apple-wage-war-on-gadget-right-to-repair-laws

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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● NEWS ● #MacRumors # ☞ Apple's Efforts to Block 'Right to Repair' Laws Highlighted in New Report https://www.macrumors.com/2021/05/20/apple-right-to-repair-lobbying-efforts/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's Efforts to Block 'Right to Repair' Laws Highlighted in New Report - MacRumors

opal

the spam isnt from #liberia it's targeted at it

May 22 12:09

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techrights-bot

We Need to Save #Europe From the #Lawlessness of #EPO ‘Mafia’ (Corrupt Management That Doesn’t Understand #Patents or #Law ) http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/epo-eba-rigged/

May 22 12:19

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | We Need to Save Europe From the Lawlessness of EPO ‘Mafia’ (Corrupt Management That Doesn’t Understand Patents or Law) | Techrights

May 22 12:19

schestowitz

libera?

May 22 12:19

schestowitz

did you determine its source/ip/netblock?

May 22 12:20

opal

they use compromised hosts

May 22 12:20

opal

not much use

May 22 12:20

schestowitz

I very much doubt their intention is to demonise libera

May 22 12:23

schestowitz

just to screw around with freenode

May 22 12:23

schestowitz

for "the lols"

May 22 12:24

opal

#liberia was owned by some efnet troll / podcaster so in this case its pretty much just fucking around in general

May 22 12:24

opal

yeah

May 22 12:24

trttl

yeah. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T0NYZDGTA5g

May 22 12:25

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | LRH 499.3 COME SEE ABOUT ME - Invidious

May 22 12:25

trttl

freenode talk starts at ~5:00

May 22 12:26

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trttl

i'm assuming the spammer is someone unaffiliated who's happy about the situation

May 22 12:29

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techrights-bot

Nobody Loves the #EPO (or #EPC ) Like the Staff Representatives and the Union, #SUEPO http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/loving-the-epc/ #patents #europe

May 22 12:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nobody Loves the EPO (or EPC) Like the Staff Representatives and the Union, SUEPO | Techrights

May 22 12:42

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May 22 12:47

techrights-bot

Hating #Freenode or Its Owner Based on Distorted Version of History http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-misinformation-or-misunderstandings/ #irc #internet #privacy #freesw

May 22 12:54

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hating Freenode or Its Owner Based on Distorted Version of History | Techrights

May 22 12:54

techrights-bot

● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ @EFF Sues #Police Standards Agency to Obtain Use of Force Training Materials https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-sues-police-standards-agency-obtain-use-force-training-materials should have sued SPD for FOIA compliance regarding #billgates scandals; instead EFF attacked the scapegoat and boosted #microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/

May 22 12:58

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF Sues Police Standards Agency to Obtain Use of Force Training Materials | Electronic Frontier Foundation

May 22 12:58

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights

May 22 12:58

techrights-bot

Wow, #BoingBoing now belittling #billgates crimes while #cnbc helps distract from #microsoft complicity. Media operatives working overtime to save the "good" criminal... _theirs_.

May 22 13:02

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techrights-bot

In several different publications now Jordan Novet has been nothing short of #microsoft operative looking to distract from Microsoft lies, crimes, and fraud. Now helps cover up for #billgates too... in #cnbc

May 22 13:03

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techrights-bot

In the #surveillance or "data collection" context metadata is akin to data about data and it can fundamentally be a lot more troubling than the data because it can be taken out of context and serve to distort or distract from the real substance, e.g. where you were but not why/what for

May 22 13:08

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● NEWS ● #CounterPunch #monopoly #CropData ☞ #Microsoft vs Indian Farmers: Agri-Stacking the System https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/05/21/microsoft-vs-indian-farmers-agri-stacking-the-system/ Microsoft is #corruption http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/

May 22 13:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft vs Indian Farmers: Agri-Stacking the System - CounterPunch.org

May 22 13:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and “Slush Funds” | Techrights

May 22 13:10

techrights-bot

● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux ☞ #SleePi sounds alarm when Raspberry Pi detects sleepiness https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/sleepi-sounds-alarm-when-raspberry-pi-detects-sleepiness/

May 22 13:15

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | SleePi sounds alarm when Raspberry Pi detects sleepiness - Raspberry Pi

May 22 13:15

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techrights-bot

Major Productivity Boost! #KDE Brings KCommandBar for KDE Applications • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151472 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

May 22 13:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Major Productivity Boost! KDE Brings KCommandBar for KDE Applications | Tux Machines

May 22 13:20

techrights-bot

The Boards of Appeal of the #EPO still lack (and crave for) independence; a lot of cases can be stacked and their outcome accordingly rigged to serve the agenda of the Office • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/epo-eba-rigged/ ䷉ #Techrights #patent #europe | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/22/epo-eba-rigged/

May 22 13:21

techrights-bot

The situation at the #EPO is untenable; only the staff representatives and union attempt to rectify matters • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/loving-the-epc/ ䷉ #Techrights #suepo #europe #patents| ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/22/loving-the-epc/

May 22 13:21

techrights-bot

Anti- #Freenode abuse has become more apparent this past day or so; a lot of the anger is based on #misinformation or misunderstandings • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-misinformation-or-misunderstandings/ ䷉ #Techrights #irc #internet | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-misinformation-or-misunderstandings/

May 22 13:22

techrights-bot

#freenode is #freesw https://web.archive.org/web/20210520103526/https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss

May 22 13:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | On freenode and its commitment to FOSS - freenode

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techrights-bot

● NEWS ● #EFF #PatentTrolls #swpats ☞ Washington State Has Sued a #PatentTroll For Violating Consumer Protection Laws https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/05/washington-state-has-sued-patent-troll-violating-consumer-protection-laws

May 22 13:37

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Washington State Has Sued a Patent Troll For Violating Consumer Protection Laws | Electronic Frontier Foundation

May 22 13:37

techrights-bot

So @TheLunduke is not aware that #zdnet and #techRepublic are the same publisher (scroll down to the bottom of the page of the latter) https://odysee.com/@Lunduke:e/LinuxJournalismPooPoo:7 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet funded by #ibm #microsoft and LF to post fluff and lies

May 22 13:47

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Linux Journalism? A bunch of Poo-Poo.

May 22 13:47

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights

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● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #Facebook and #Instagram Reveal How Much 'Pirated' Content is Removed Proactively https://torrentfreak.com/facebook-and-instagram-reveal-how-much-pirated-content-is-removed-proactively-210521/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook and Instagram Reveal How Much 'Pirated' Content is Removed Proactively * TorrentFreak

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● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights # ☞ Njalla Takes 'Pirate' Site Domains Offline Following Legal Pressure https://torrentfreak.com/njalla-takes-pirate-site-domains-offline-following-legal-pressure-210521/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Njalla Takes 'Pirate' Site Domains Offline Following Legal Pressure * TorrentFreak

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May 22 14:24

baronhk[m]1

The first one is my thoughts on the current state of Windows 10.

May 22 14:24

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#Microsdft ways of thought cost society a lot https://toot.liw.fi/@liw/106273439481395426

May 22 14:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lars Wirzenius: "Finnish universities develop a new system for stu…" - toot.liw.fi

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techrights-bot

#SciHub sharing is caring about #science https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody/106273498079489644 scientists support Sci-Hub, the cartels that exploit scientists loathe it

May 22 14:35

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Glyn Moody: "Redditors Launch A 'Rescue Mission' For Embattled…" - Mastodon

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Today in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151473 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines

https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/thoughts-on-windows-10-21h1/

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May 22 14:46

baronhk[m]1

"With the Linux Subsystem, even a Chromebook could run the fully functional versions of foobar2000 (wine), VLC, and HexChat. So Microsoft's Windows Store is just....well, bad. In fact, they don't even include it in the LTSC versions that businesses get, and some pirates have noted that they run LTSC for reasons such as this.

May 22 14:50

baronhk[m]1

Microsoft still just cannot give up using Consumer SKUs as a dumping ground of junk that businesses would never deploy on a corporate environment."

May 22 14:50

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May 22 14:51

baronhk[m]1

"As soon as I got this laptop I turned off all of Microsoft's Telemetry and Personal Information Collection stuff that Windows allows you to toggle, and it got far less annoying. However, something about 21H1 assumes that OneDrive is going to be there, even though the user is allowed to remove it, and it proceeded to put non-functioning OneDrive shortcuts in my Start Menu and in my quick launch tiles. I removed the

May 22 14:55

baronhk[m]1

tile, but to get it out of my Start Menu I actually had to track down a link that it dropped into my StartUp folder, at which point it disappeared again. DIE DIE DIE!"

May 22 14:55

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May 22 14:57

baronhk[m]1

"LibreOffice 7 is a great substitute for MS Office which is free and has good compatibility. They did an excellent job of making it look and feel like a Windows 10 program in the recent major release series and the GUI in general is fantastic for folks like me who never enjoyed Ribbon and will never accept "Cloud" document editing, which may be the dumbest thing to ever happen to computing. If one can still measure

May 22 14:58

baronhk[m]1

these things."

May 22 14:58

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May 22 15:03

baronhk[m]1

I think Microsoft Edge is going to be the only part of my Windows 10 article that gets any sort of compliments.

May 22 15:03

MinceR

maybe microshit should replace their entire product line with forks of google products

May 22 15:04

MinceR

their new motto could be "We haven't meddled with it much!"

May 22 15:05

MinceR

or "It's just a little worse."

May 22 15:05

psydroid

maybe Microsoft should just gtfo and die

May 22 15:08

MinceR

yeah, that would be the best

May 22 15:10

MinceR

they could take ibm with them

May 22 15:10

phobos_anomaly

If they took Google and Oracle with them, I'd agree to that

May 22 15:16

MinceR

May 22 15:16

MinceR

they could take intel and apple too

May 22 15:17

phobos_anomaly

Intel, yeah. Apple... I'm on the fence about. Seems like lately, Apple has been giving a damn about the little peoples privacy and actively squashing attempts to track users of its products

May 22 15:18

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baronhk[m]1

"It seems that the reaction from gamers to the state the industry has allowed things to get to is a collective yawn and to try to recover each time the game errors out. Why would they ever fix it when they know you'll pay $80 for a broken game?"

May 22 15:21

MinceR

> Apple has been giving a damn about the little peoples privacy

May 22 15:26

MinceR

LOL

May 22 15:26

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May 22 15:27

psydroid

fake privacy as a profitable product

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May 22 15:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Thoughts on Windows 10 21H1… – BaronHK's Rants

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May 22 15:34

baronhk[m]1

MinceR: "That’s amazing….Every single app in this store is wrong. Furthermore, don’t look in the Windows Store as a safe and supported way to get Firefox, Chrome, or other browsers, because Microsoft’s policy is they can’t be in the Store. That’s probably okay, because long before you get through Microsoft’s litany of requirements to publish in their store, it would become clear that although you don’

May 22 15:36

baronhk[m]1

insane to work here, it would sure help."

May 22 15:36

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May 22 15:37

MinceR

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May 22 15:41

baronhk[m]1

"A quick note on the media front. At some point along the way, Microsoft added support for some open media codecs. Notably, Opus, FLAC, Ogg Vorbis, and WebM should work, as should proprietary formats like HEVC. That should theoretically eliminate the need to go hunting down pirate codec packs that could be brimming with computer viruses. They’ve even managed to implement support for id3v2.4 tags, so if you have any

May 22 15:42

baronhk[m]1

MP3s left, you can now update to the tag format from 2000 without worrying about whether Windows Explorer can read them or not.

May 22 15:42

baronhk[m]1

Still, 3rd party media players are much better suited for the task, as they tend to support almost everything and definitely have better GUIs without the spam. I like foobar2000 and VLC."

May 22 15:42

phobos_anomaly

Am I the only one that didn't think Metro was that bad? Wasn't all that great, but wasn't that bad if you were using a touch screen

MinceR

probably

phobos_anomaly

MinceR

also, having a UI rely on tossing the pointer in a corner of the screen doesn't work on a touchscreen

MinceR

you'd think this is obvious

MinceR

it wasn't obvious to microsoft

https://devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse

phobos_anomaly

No argument here. That being said, on the few windows boxes I did have, if it didn't have a touch screen, then it got one of the alternative shells... usually everything was linux though, but with the sad state of affairs regarding games though...

May 22 15:47

phobos_anomaly

I'd rather put up with 8.1 than 10 though.

May 22 15:48

MinceR

May 22 15:49

MinceR

if i had to choose, i'd pick something like 3.1

May 22 15:52

MinceR

and run loadlin :>

May 22 15:52

MinceR

or run it in dosbox

May 22 15:52

phobos_anomaly

May 22 15:53

psydroid

microsoft is obsessed with mouse pointers and styluses on touchscreen devices

May 22 16:05

XRevan86

May 22 16:12

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 308 @ https://devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse )

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May 22 16:35

XRevan86

I don't think this is actually crossing the line as the channel operator expressed the intention to leave the channel forever, so it could've been considered as vacant. However, it's also very close to abuse of power and is indeed channel take-over, so a red flag for sure.

May 22 16:36

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https://nitter.cc/ariadneconill/status/1395667119778500611

XRevan86

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "i now have it on good authority, verified with multiple people, that this Foxy person was fired from Rizon for leaking IP addresses of users to people known to have DDoS capabilities" | nitter

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MinceR

it's fine, we can always move to umbrellanet :>

May 22 16:38

XRevan86

MinceR: What even is that?

May 22 16:39

MinceR

an ircnet that is run by people who are not SJWs or abusers

May 22 16:39

MinceR

s/cnet/c network/

May 22 16:39

XRevan86

I'll take your word for it.

May 22 16:40

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May 22 16:45

stormchaser3000

I really hope that Freenode survives this whole stupid drama

May 22 16:46

phobos_anomaly

It will. Its not going anywhere anytime soon. Big organizations don't typically disappear over night.

May 22 16:46

stormchaser3000

I haven't been on here much lately, but I used to join quite frequently and talk on channels for several Free Software projects

May 22 16:46

stormchaser3000

fair point

May 22 16:47

XRevan86

stormchaser3000: Quite a few of those channels have or will move away.

May 22 16:47

stormchaser3000

yeah, but I don't really join most of those channels anymore

phobos_anomaly

That would be stupid of them to do that instead of maintaining a dual presence

stormchaser3000

I still frequent ##slackware every once in a while as well as some related channels

MinceR

people are known to do stupid things

stormchaser3000

I am waiting for Exaga (the maintainer of the installer for Slackware ARM on Raspberry Pi) to release his installer for AArch64. When that happens, then I won't have to use Manjaro

May 22 16:49

CrystalMath

<jess> this is unfair, i'm waiting for you to be racist enough for me to warn you and then kline you

May 22 16:49

MinceR

lol

stormchaser3000

also, yeah, people really do a lot of stupid things

https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/element-matrix-reddit-and-irc-does-federation-give-more-freedom-or-different-masters/

baronhk[m]1

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Element/Matrix, Reddit, and IRC. Does Federation give more freedom or different masters? – BaronHK's Rants

phobos_anomaly

lol

stormchaser3000

such has been my observation of humanity XD

baronhk[m]1

SJWs, Nazis, and K-12 kids on Chromebooks in NYC is what's going on with Matrix.

baronhk[m]1

I'm not really sure what the answer is to the IRC death spiral.

stormchaser3000

telnet and ssh BBSs?

CrystalMath

MinceR: some more spinning from good old Ariadne, Foxy just shared a log, and at the time rizon did not have mangling

MinceR

CrystalMath

she appears to be gone from here

CrystalMath

good

MinceR

i doubt it's a death spiral

stormchaser3000

the telnet BBS is making a resurgence

MinceR

i don't mind that the CIAO A TUTTI and sulinet people have moved to faecesbook and shitcord

phobos_anomaly

<cpudan80> If it does not have a registry, its not a real OS

MinceR

lol

stormchaser3000

I cannot stand Discord and Facebook messenger. If I need something that does what skype does, I will use IRC, Tox, or Matrix

MinceR

translation: if it does not have a filesystem that's so broken you don't want to keep small files on it, it's not a real os

stormchaser3000

btw, Tox is great

stormchaser3000

it's basically Skype before Microcrap took it over

stormchaser3000

with end-to-end encryption and decentralization

MinceR

hopefully it's not as bad :>

Noisytoot

There's also Jami, which is similar

baronhk[m]1: https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/element-matrix-reddit-and-irc-does-federation-give-more-freedom-or-different-masters/

MinceR

Tox being free software is already a great advantage compared to skype

May 22 16:54

stormchaser3000

also, because it has a couple native desktop clients, it doesn't run like garbage on low-powered devices like the Pi 400

May 22 16:55

stormchaser3000

the protocol also seems to be more lightweight than Matrix

May 22 16:55

stormchaser3000

there is no centralized account system so it's networking model is peer-to-peer

May 22 16:55

stormchaser3000

Jami is nice, but it's desktop client is heavier than something like uTox or qTox

May 22 16:56

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*stormchaser3000 has to go to work

May 22 17:03

stormchaser3000

have a good day everyone

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May 22 17:17

schestowitz

[15:28] <psydroid> fake privacy as a profitable product

May 22 17:18

schestowitz

As long as you can get away with it

May 22 17:18

*schestowitz gives voice to balrog DVulgaris sepsinn tagglink

May 22 17:21

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May 22 17:22

schestowitz

XRevan86: the body does not match the headline

May 22 17:24

schestowitz

different stories

May 22 17:24

schestowitz

May 22 17:25

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Element/Matrix, Reddit, and IRC. Does Federation give more freedom or different masters? – BaronHK's Rants

May 22 17:25

schestowitz

good observation, yes

May 22 17:25

schestowitz

XRevan86: This is clearly an exaggeration of what actually happened

May 22 17:26

techrights-bot

#freespeech online was never easy, esp. when you are not #selfHosting https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/element-matrix-reddit-and-irc-does-federation-give-more-freedom-or-different-masters/

May 22 17:27

XRevan86

schestowitz: Right, I did say that in my message.

May 22 17:27

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May 22 17:30

techrights-bot

#Wine 6.9 Released! How to Install in Ubuntu 21.04, 20.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151458#comment-29727 #gnu #linux

May 22 17:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.9 | Tux Machines

May 22 17:31

schestowitz

XRevan86: another example of over-inflation of crises and abuses

May 22 17:32

schestowitz

like the owners of freenode -- GASP -- wanting to get back on the access list for the domain

May 22 17:33

schestowitz

"the rooster always attacks me when you I approach the nest with the hen's eggs..."

May 22 17:34

XRevan86

schestowitz: Now the trick with that is the access was restricted by Christel, who was the head of staff and a member of the board.

May 22 17:34

baronhk[m]1

Ubuntu not providing good support for Wine is a definite downside.

May 22 17:35

baronhk[m]1

At one point they planned to remove the entire 32-bit subsystem and then reversed course only when users were furious that they'd have to move to a different distribution to keep Steam and Wine working.

May 22 17:35

XRevan86

schestowitz: So, that arrangement has a gap: is control over the domain given to the head of staff or reserved to the board?

May 22 17:36

techrights-bot

"American Truck Simulator is a truck simulator game developed by SCS Software. It’s a sequel to Euro Truck Simulator 2 and puts the player in charge of running an 18-wheeler truck across America. In this guide, we’ll show you how to play it on #Linux ." https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/american-truck-simulator-linux/

May 22 17:36

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | How to play American Truck Simulator on Linux

May 22 17:36

XRevan86

schestowitz: Either way, the way rasengan presented this issue, it seems like he wasn't aware that Christel restricted access and thought that tomaw did so to undermine the company by seizuring the domains.

May 22 17:38

XRevan86

I am not convinced that that was ever the intention. And the actions that rasengan did take after that definitely look like the company taking control over the independent community that has been running the network since its start.

May 22 17:40

search_social

well it all comes down to why Christel was able to sell freenode in a secret gag-order contract in the first place

May 22 17:41

XRevan86

schestowitz: So a bit of a The Dual Power state of things.

May 22 17:41

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May 22 17:42

techrights-bot

Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151474 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

May 22 17:43

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

May 22 17:43

XRevan86

Also, there's an unanswered question here: if Christel gave access to the domains to tomaw, she must have given him the 2FA credentials as well. Is that logic correct?

May 22 17:44

techrights-bot

"The Dark Mod is an open source game project, with code licensed under the GPLv3 and the Revised BSD License. All artwork for the game is licensed under CC-BY-SA-NC 3.0." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/notable-developer-from-the-dark-mod-team-passes-away

May 22 17:45

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Notable developer from The Dark Mod team passes away | GamingOnLinux

May 22 17:45

XRevan86

And if so, does that mean that in her mind the control over the domains should be in the hands of the head of staff? Just like the sponsors give exclusive SSH access to the donated infrastructure.

May 22 17:45

MinceR

was 2FA enabled by then? i had the impression that it wasn't

May 22 17:46

rasengan

XRevan86 - 2FA was enabled by Tomaw not christel.

May 22 17:47

rasengan

You can’t really properly share a 2fa credential since it’s usually tied to a key or a phone number.

May 22 17:47

techrights-bot

Days Gone makes with the working on Linux with Proton Experimental | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/days-gone-makes-with-the-working-on-linux-withproton-experimental ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/22/#latest

May 22 17:48

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Days Gone makes with the working on Linux with Proton Experimental | GamingOnLinux

May 22 17:48

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

May 22 17:48

XRevan86

> You can’t really properly share a 2fa credential since it’s usually tied to a key or a phone number.

May 22 17:49

XRevan86

rasengan: That is correct, however, she could've taken it down for him to bring it back up.

May 22 17:49

XRevan86

as a transition

May 22 17:50

rasengan

It wasn’t enabled before.

May 22 17:50

rasengan

I had full access to the freenode domain account before.

May 22 17:51

rasengan

To be clear he added himself on April 3 when he messaged me as you could see in the pdf. Few days after that I found I was locked out.

May 22 17:51

schestowitz

that is not fair

May 22 17:52

schestowitz

I hate 2fa

May 22 17:52

schestowitz

it's tied to some questionable security practices

May 22 17:52

scientes

the drama will blow over

schestowitz

it adds layers of complexity that is itself an insecurity

scientes

how about 4fa

schestowitz

scientes: will?

schestowitz

it has

schestowitz

about 2 days ago

scientes

or LCD-authentication

schestowitz

i see no blog posts or press reports anymore

schestowitz

and I watch lots of RSS feeds, plus searches on words

*scientes jokes

MinceR

i see some new allegations regarding oper conduct

schestowitz

the 'other people' will try to make up some drama

schestowitz

same thing as the people who tried to ruin FSF

kakama

schestowitz

"OMG!!! RMS spoke!1"

kakama

that article on ritual shaming that was reposted was cuttingly accurate

schestowitz

"burn him? how dare the witch talk !!"

scientes

there is some spam on OFTC mocking the whole freenode drama

http://techrights.org/2021/04/09/hate-always-backfires/ http://techrights.org/2021/04/08/people-hate-the-hate-letter/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hate Letter Against Richard Matthew Stallman (RMS) Backfired So Spectacularly That Signers Asked to Revoke Their Own Signatures and the List Was Then Frozen Permanently (Updated) | Techrights

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Hate Letter Which Backfired | Techrights

XRevan86

rasengan: I see, that changes things.

baronhk[m]1

schestowitz: MinceR https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/tim-apple-testifies-in-court-on-the-app-store-monopoly/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | “Tim Apple” testifies in court on the App Store monopoly. – BaronHK's Rants

schestowitz

I'm back to focusing on patents and freesw

schestowitz

freenode thing is a past issue, we need to move on and treat it like a back wing

kakama

linux coc, FSF drama, git master rename, all these weird little things feel like an organized attack/attempt to seize control of the untamed self-organized independent parts of the tech world

schestowitz

baronhk[m]1: yes, GAFAM is ripping people off

schestowitz

kakama: you mentioned "master"

schestowitz

that's corporate trollling

http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | Techrights

schestowitz

provoking and dividing people

techrights-bot

#Mobian begins porting its #Debian -based OS to more smartphones and tablets • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151475 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

May 22 17:58

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mobian begins porting its Debian-based OS to more smartphones and tablets | Tux Machines

May 22 17:58

scientes

Without the communist party there would be no new china.

May 22 17:58

XRevan86

rasengan: Can ye prove that?

May 22 17:59

XRevan86

That would mean a lot.

May 22 17:59

techrights-bot

The anti- #Freenode camp has run out of momentum, so now phony scandals are being fabricated or misframed... inertia using staged drama. Seen that 1-2 months ago in anti-FSF lobby.

May 22 18:01

kakama

yeah schestowitz

May 22 18:01

scientes

Without the communist party there would be no new china.

XRevan86

scientes: Huh?

MinceR

it would be nice if there was no "new china"

kakama

the concept of leftism per Dr. Kaczynski (not politically slanted/american politics there, just the memetic pattern of using shifting moral goalposts)

techrights-bot

This could be the most powerful Linux laptop yet http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151387#comment-29729 #gnu #linux

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TUXEDO’s Latest Linux Laptop is All About the Screen | Tux Machines

kakama

is a weapon used by various parties these days to assert their control/attack their enemies

scientes

没有共产党就没有新中国

scientes

XRevan86, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Without_the_Communist_Party,_There_Would_Be_No_New_China

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Without the Communist Party, There Would Be No New China - Wikipedia

https://i.imgur.com/KQamHam.png

MinceR

May 22 18:04

XRevan86

scientes: Oh, in response to The Dual Power

May 22 18:04

scientes

XRevan86, it is still used today, Uyghers are forced to chant it

schestowitz

MinceR: wrong url?

schestowitz

what is this?

MinceR

reference to the tiananmen square massacre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFg7VdffcKU

scientes

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Without the Communist Party, There Would Be No New China || CAPTIONS - YouTube

schestowitz

I see...

schestowitz

what massacre?

schestowitz

it didn't happen

MinceR

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Big-New-Driver-Coming

baronhk[m]1

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mumblings Of A "Big New" Open-Source GPU Driver Coming... - Phoronix

baronhk[m]1

This is the worst article on Phoronix yet.

baronhk[m]1

He doesn't have any news so engages in idle speculation.

scientes

schestowitz, the CCCP now says it happened, but that nobody died or something like that

MinceR

that would be the CCP :>

XRevan86

КПК, or PDA

MinceR

or CPC

MinceR

中国共产党

XRevan86

MinceR: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Карманный_персональный_компьютер just sayin' :)

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Карманный_персональный_компьюте? )

MinceR

i wonder if a sickle with such a stubby handle is even usable >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Chinese Communist Party - Wikipedia

MinceR

XRevan86: lol

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/21/999178100/single-dating-apps-are-making-it-easier-to-swipe-right-for-a-match-whos-vaccinat

baronhk[m]1

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Tinder, Bumble Launch Features To Match Vaccinated Singles : Coronavirus Updates : NPR

baronhk[m]1

Dating apps are boosting people who had a COVID vaccination.

XRevan86

MinceR: No, ye just hold it like a globus cruciger

techrights-bot

Chris Titus 'Tehc' [sic] promoting fake security of #microsoft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZf_OqSDJe4 see http://techrights.org/2014/07/31/microsoft-back-doors-admission/ and http://techrights.org/2015/11/14/microsoft-bitlocker-has-bugback-doors-windows-laptopdesktop-encryption-just-a-farce/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bitlocker Recovery Key - YouTube

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Former Microsoft Engineer Working on Windows BitLocker Confirms Government Asks Microsoft for Back Doors | Techrights

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft BitLocker Has Bug/Back Doors, Windows Laptop/Desktop Encryption Just a Farce | Techrights

MinceR

lol

baronhk[m]1

I figured out that to get Windows Defender Offline Scan to work you have to temporarily suspend Bitlocker.

MinceR

lol

techrights-bot

#Linux #Kernel 5.11 Reaches End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade to Linux 5.12 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151476 #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.11 Reaches End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade to Linux 5.12 | Tux Machines

MinceR

classic microsoft: not even compatible with other microsoft products

baronhk[m]1

It reactivates it on the next boot, but for the time that Defender Offline Scan is running, the drive is still unlocked.

techrights-bot

#Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151478 #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

techrights-bot

Mike Gabriel: Upcoming brainstorming discussion about #Debian for the Enterprise • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151477 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mike Gabriel: Upcoming brainstorming discussion about Debian for the Enterprise | Tux Machines

https://odysee.com/@Lunduke:e/LinuxJournalismPooPoo:7

schestowitz

[18:07] <baronhk[m]1> He doesn't have any news so engages in idle speculation.

May 22 18:17

schestowitz

yes

May 22 18:17

schestowitz

these are difficult times

May 22 18:17

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Linux Journalism? A bunch of Poo-Poo.

schestowitz

new

schestowitz

yesterday

schestowitz

he makes many errors

schestowitz

I will respond to it later tonight

schestowitz

[18:09] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.npr.org | Tinder, Bumble Launch Features To Match Vaccinated Singles : Coronavirus Updates : NPR

schestowitz

Bill Gates-funded 'news'

schestowitz

(NPR)

schestowitz

"get the jab or "no funking""

May 22 18:19

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May 22 18:21

techrights-bot

Setting Up a Secure #Webapp - RESEARCHUT ⚓ https://www.researchut.com/blog/Setting_Up_a_Secure_Webapp/ ䷉ #researchut | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/22/#latest

May 22 18:25

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May 22 18:25

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May 22 18:25

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#KDE Introduces #KCommandBar For HUD-Style Popups http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151469#comment-29730

May 22 18:27

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: KCommandBar delivers ludicrous-mode productivity | Tux Machines

May 22 18:27

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IWB, the man who brought #gnu #linux to #ibm https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/05/business-and-technology-dynamics-in-the-post-pandemic-years.html

May 22 18:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Business and Technology Predictions for 2021 and Beyond

May 22 18:28

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"Big Picture mode currently runs on Windows 7 or newer, Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion) or newer, Linux Ubuntu 12.04 or newer, and SteamOS." Which is #debian #gnu #linux -based. https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-steam-big-picture-mode-explained/

May 22 18:30

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | What Is Steam Big Picture Mode and How Do You Use It?

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#GNOME Human Interface Guidelines Being Updated For #GTK4 , Other Modern Features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151390#comment-29731 #gtk

May 22 18:32

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May 22 18:32

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#Games : The Dark Mod Mourns, Days Gone, and Big Picture • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151479 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

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#Monopolies Versus #RightToRepair Law • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151480 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

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techrights-bot

Fork #BruteForce Attack Detection/Mitigation Still Being Worked On For The #Linux #Kernel https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-v7-Brute-Force-Mitigation

May 22 18:39

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May 22 18:39

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Live Embedded Event schedule published, 5 talks from #Bootlin https://bootlin.com/blog/live-embedded-event-schedule-published-5-talks-from-bootlin/ #linux

May 22 18:43

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May 22 18:43

rasengan

XRevan86: https://devilfruit.com:9000/uploads/6e357c36e0d8126b/image.png Sory, I was in the shower. Here's proof we had control of the domains and

May 22 18:45

rasengan

XRevan86: https://devilfruit.com:9000/uploads/663f8caa482ed1b8/image.png And proof of timing/etc. that I was referring to previously.

May 22 18:46

XRevan86

rasengan: The first screenshot shows the moment when Christel transfers the domain to the company. The second shows that tomaw was added to the domain controlling team on April 5th.

May 22 18:49

rasengan

yes, we discovered we were locked out shortly after.

May 22 18:49

XRevan86

rasengan: That's what I mean by proof: the moment in the log when the lock-out happened, i.e. 2FA was added.

May 22 18:50

rasengan

that kind of transparency doesnt exist on thea cc, but im sure you can imagine that 2fa was added after tomaw was added right? ;)

XRevan86

rasengan: I should reupload the screenshots to use them, right?

rasengan

Like from a technical perspective you know?

rasengan

XRevan86: yes _please_

rasengan

I have very limited bandwidth on this box

rasengan

that said i sent the other ones to you in PM becuase they were 10 megs

techrights-bot

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XRevan86

rasengan: Well, I don't know the technicality of the gandi control panel, to me it looks weird that there's a team of separate accounts, yet they somehow can impose a shared 2FA.

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ISO Codes #API for #KDE Frameworks • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151482

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#Lakka 3.0 release • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151481 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #raspi

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search_social

well it's like having root, any account with root can lock out other accounts with root

May 22 18:55

XRevan86

search_social: But we're talking about adding 2FA, not revoking Owner status.

May 22 18:55

schestowitz

search_social: good analogy

May 22 18:56

search_social

so like in minetest anyone with the "grant" priv can revoke the grant priv from everyone else who has it

May 22 18:56

XRevan86

I thought it's a shared account, so tomaw got the login and password and then added 2FA to it.

May 22 18:56

schestowitz

search_social: or change sudoers

schestowitz

which is what this 2fa thing is like

XRevan86

But the screenshot implies that it's a managed account

rasengan

XRevan86 I don't know how gandi works but we could not login due to 2fa having been enabled. Tomaw had to disable 2fa for us to get in.

rasengan

(and to be clear, he did it)

schestowitz

he was a peer, equal

schestowitz

so surely he can do that

May 22 18:58

schestowitz

shared admins can lock one each other out, so the concept of superadmin is sometimes needed

May 22 18:58

schestowitz

like recovery account with phone #/address

May 22 18:58

schestowitz

I can be locked out of techrights by someone as well

schestowitz

the server and DNS too

schestowitz

that's the cost of sharing creds and powers, like in case I get hospitalised or something

schestowitz

and my wife isn't good at DNS and those sorts of things

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-gave-bill-gates-advice-on-how-to-end-toxic-marriage-sources-say

baronhk[m]1

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailybeast.com | Jeffrey Epstein Gave Bill Gates Advice on How to End ‘Toxic’ Marriage, Sources Say

schestowitz

baronhk[m]1: that's afterthought spn

baronhk[m]1

schestowitz: According to this, Bill Gates asked Epstein how to end the marriage to Melinda.

schestowitz

I saw that before, they're now trying to create a confusing new spin

schestowitz

baronhk[m]1: noise

schestowitz

that's not what he went to prison for

schestowitz

also, he met him many times before the divorce proceedings

May 22 19:01

schestowitz

initiated not by him

May 22 19:01

schestowitz

and she divorced him

schestowitz

not the other way around

schestowitz

and not because she found out he was micro-soft

schestowitz

but BECAUSE he was hanging out with a sex traffickers who sells access to young girls

baronhk[m]1

You would think that the DMCA would put the US at a disadvantage when it came to online hosting services.

May 22 19:15

techrights-ipfs

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May 22 19:15

baronhk[m]1

Someone would just stick one where it doesn't apply.

May 22 19:16

techrights-bot

Links 22/5/2021: Lakka 3.0, Stable RHEL Release • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/lakka-3-0-release/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/22/lakka-3-0-release/

May 22 19:16

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May 22 19:16

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Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151487 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines

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#RaspberryPi Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151486 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

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A Week In Tok • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151484 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Week In Tok | Tux Machines

https://torrentfreak.com/wordpress-rejected-83-of-all-dmca-takedown-notices-last-year-210514/

schestowitz

baronhk[m]1: DMCA isn't just in the US

May 22 19:19

schestowitz

or rather, it can be pushed outwards, as happens lot

May 22 19:19

schestowitz

all those "Trade" agreements...

May 22 19:19

MinceR

WIPO Copyright Treaty

May 22 19:20

baronhk[m]1

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WordPress Rejected 83% of all DMCA Takedown Notices Last Year * TorrentFreak

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baronhk[m]1

Microsoft Bing rejected less than half a percent of DMCA notices.

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May 22 19:27

techrights-bot

"What's NEW In Fedora 34? GNOME 40, Boosted Performance With ZSTD Compression, Smoother System with Systemd-OOMD. Linux Kernel 5.11, and an ABSOLUTELY NEW EXPERIENCE." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMQaGM3N9zg

May 22 19:27

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 34 | This is the ABSOLUTE Best Linux Distro of 2021 Yet (NEW RELEASE!) - YouTube

May 22 19:27

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schestowitz

baronhk[m]1: at some stage it ought to be, by default or if in doubt, REJECT

schestowitz

and impose penalties for wrong requests

schestowitz

use penalty money to crowdfund food aid for hard-hit countries

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May 22 19:30

CrystalMath

rasengan: what can we do if someone sets +i on a ## channel to force people to move to libera? can we report this to freenode staff?

May 22 19:31

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May 22 19:31

schestowitz

CrystalMath: to interject, it seems to me like such channels or projects shoot their own foot or blow it away

May 22 19:32

CrystalMath

schestowitz: yes but what if a sizable number of the people there want to stay

May 22 19:32

CrystalMath

must we create new channels? :(

schestowitz

if the admins do it, and they're the rightful admins, no foul play

schestowitz

just "dick move"

schestowitz

as they separate users from their friends

schestowitz

such admins are dicks

CrystalMath

we shouldn't let them do this

MinceR

tell the old founders to do it right and drop their NickServ accounts :>

schestowitz

bbiab

CrystalMath

MinceR: some of these are aggressive and they will not

CrystalMath

they want to force people over to libera

schestowitz

7:30pm GMT, no articles today about freenode in my feeds, not even blog posts

MinceR

threaten them with selling their precious data

schestowitz

storm settling

CrystalMath

i mean you know these people... they *never* shy away from violence

schestowitz

I am moving on

MinceR

Thought for the day: Violence solves everything.

CrystalMath

MinceR: if reason fails, i think we should have some backup

CrystalMath

for now i will create ### channels

schestowitz

we can post analysis of this later, maybe a week from now TBH

CrystalMath

when this happens

trttl

"left wing or right wing.. i'm pro violence"

MinceR

schestowitz

said nobody ever

MinceR

"a bit of the old ultra-violence"

schestowitz

'TechMob' https://odysee.com/@Lunduke:e/MostAfraidOfTechMob:3

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | 76% Afraid of Tech Mob - Most hide true opinions

schestowitz

yesterday ^

schestowitz

We can pwn them when all their inertia is gone

schestowitz

and then mention how they fail to rub salt in the wounds

schestowitz

because they lie

schestowitz

self-fulfilling prophecies

schestowitz

"x is dead"

CrystalMath

MinceR: tbh i say this stuff with the full awareness that i forcefully set autokick on libera to tell people to go to freenode :P

May 22 19:41

MinceR

May 22 19:42

CrystalMath

MinceR: and even removed co-founders to do so

May 22 19:42

CrystalMath

it's a purely democratic decision, the channel - that is me

May 22 19:43

MinceR

"I am the Senate!"

May 22 19:43

CrystalMath

"i am the channel" would be closer to the english translation of what Louis XIV said

May 22 19:44

CrystalMath

the state? i am the state

May 22 19:44

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May 22 19:45

CrystalMath

MinceR: btw, Leah Rowe will be moving to irc.libreboot.org

May 22 19:46

CrystalMath

but is on freenode until then

May 22 19:46

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XRevan86

CrystalMath: The procedure is to wait 60 days after ops leave and then request the channel.

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CrystalMath

XRevan86: and lose all the people to libera in the meantime?

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XRevan86

CrystalMath: What loses people is violating trust.

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CrystalMath

honestly that just sounds like a surrender

CrystalMath

and i never give up, never surrender

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CrystalMath

i will create temporary channels

CrystalMath

maybe of the form ##originalname-fn

CrystalMath

and then wait 60 days

CrystalMath

and then get the channel

XRevan86

CrystalMath: What are ye? A Ruling Party fighting dissent?

CrystalMath

and then just redirect back from ##originalname-fn to ##originalname

CrystalMath

XRevan86: it's from the movie Galaxy Quest

XRevan86

CrystalMath: No, it's from the early XX century history of Russia.

phobos_anomaly

MinceR: That umbrella net you mentioned earlier, on the application for an account, its asking for a number. Is it wanting a phone number or do you know?

phobos_anomaly

https://umbrellanet.org/

CrystalMath

XRevan86: i mean what i said

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-umbrellanet.org | UmbrellaNet – The multi IRC network project

schestowitz

good that you have a blog now

schestowitz

to baronhk[m]1

schestowitz

you had several over the years

MinceR

phobos_anomaly: that's an application to link your server to the network, and it looks like they didn't modify the form from some sort of example site

MinceR

it's probably meant to be a phone number

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phobos_anomaly

I'd donate a server for use if they'd accept home servers

schestowitz

what's the footpring of ircd anyway?

schestowitz

*foorprint

CrystalMath

XRevan86: finally, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLUS0o69wQ

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Never give up; never surrender. - YouTube

schestowitz

>footprint

phobos_anomaly

schestowitz: NOt much just for the daemon

schestowitz

I'm with CrystalMath

schestowitz

many of our causes were like that

phobos_anomaly

a p2 and 256 of ram easily handles it

phobos_anomaly

its the connection load thats a pain

MinceR

phobos_anomaly: i asked them, we'll see if they reply

phobos_anomaly

schestowitz

you must press even when they tell you that you have no chance

CrystalMath

IMO we should definitely stay on freenode

CrystalMath

Ariadne left, but who cares

schestowitz

zoobab would know

XRevan86

CrystalMath: Probably what RCP(b) was saying when outlawing other political parties.

schestowitz

he got very emotional in the fight against UPC

schestowitz

many gave up

schestowitz

but we kept fighting and won

schestowitz

took like 10 years

schestowitz

CrystalMath: today is her last day in freenode

schestowitz

she told me

schestowitz

22nd

XRevan86

CrystalMath: There are boundaries to what boundaries ircops should not be allowed to cross.

XRevan86

s/to what boundaries/that/

schestowitz

[06:15] <Ariadne> fyi

schestowitz

[06:15] <Ariadne> i will not be on freenode after may 22.

schestowitz

[06:15] <Ariadne> anyone who contacts you on here claiming to be me is an imposter

schestowitz

[06:15] <schestowitz__> thanks for letting me know

CrystalMath

i always liked her nick, i think i'm gonna snatch it for a bot of mine

CrystalMath

for my browser project called Theseus, it's fitting

phobos_anomaly

MinceR: Is it safe to assume its named after Red Umbrella Corp from the resident evil games?

XRevan86

CrystalMath: konina?

CrystalMath

and of course #theseus is going nowhere :)

phobos_anomaly

;)

CrystalMath

never libera.crap

MinceR

phobos_anomaly: indeed, even the logo matches :>

phobos_anomaly

Thought so :D

phobos_anomaly

If I ever start a company, it might just be named Umbrella Corp ;)

schestowitz

CrystalMath: she's on OFTC

schestowitz

OFTC is sort of stable

schestowitz

maybe even credible

schestowitz

OFTC has some cross pollination with freenode

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CrystalMath

it has tomaw

schestowitz

yeah

CrystalMath

it has klines for people who are anti-RMS

schestowitz

but OFTC has not entered the ring to badmouth

CrystalMath

according to bagira (not verified to be about that)

schestowitz

yes, I ehard the same

schestowitz

I wrote about it weeks ago

phobos_anomaly

schestowitz: For whatever my opinion is worth (I am under no illusion that its worth anything), OFTC is pretty stable and usually very helpful

http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/

schestowitz

CrystalMath

schestowitz: i have no concrete proof but i've seen tomaw write things that make me think he's a dick

schestowitz

the same peopel who wanted to burn down freenode

schestowitz

and are also in OFTC

schestowitz

it's NOT freenode

schestowitz

it's a clique

schestowitz

and their agenda is mixed

schestowitz

staff of OFTC and freenode is not a monopolith

schestowitz

*monolith

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May 22 20:11

techrights-bot

Smach Z: Dead in 2021, Yet Portable PC Gaming Lives On https://boilingsteam.com/the-smach-z-dead-in-2021-yet-pc-handheld-gaming-lives-on/

May 22 20:11

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May 22 20:11

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May 22 20:12

psydroid

I can't shake the belief and the suspicion that burning down Freenode is the goal, but for what reason exactly?

May 22 20:13

phobos

grudges

May 22 20:13

psydroid

to steer people in the development community towards proprietary communication platforms?

May 22 20:13

phobos

because they wanted to own the network and then found out that they will never inherit it

May 22 20:14

phobos

May 22 20:14

phobos

That seemed to be the goal anyway way back then

May 22 20:14

psydroid

as mentioned there is some cross-pollination between people who signed the anti-RMS petition and those who have admin rights on OFTC and Libera

May 22 20:15

techrights-bot

#RockPi SBCs move to 2GHz RK3399 and toss in free eMMC • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151488 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Armbian

May 22 20:16

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rock Pi SBCs move to 2GHz RK3399 and toss in free eMMC | Tux Machines

May 22 20:16

MinceR

phobos: they say it depends

May 22 20:16

MinceR

things like what setup it is at home concerning security/firewall/network, rdns

May 22 20:17

XRevan86

psydroid: Ariadne is also there.

May 22 20:17

psydroid

XRevan86, I know

May 22 20:18

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May 22 20:19

phobos

MinceR: #umbrellanet ?

May 22 20:20

MinceR

i'm not sure if we even have that

May 22 20:20

MinceR

there is #help, though

May 22 20:21

phobos

On the umbrellanet, just logged in there

May 22 20:21

Noisytoot

<CrystalMath> it has klines for people who are anti-RMS

May 22 20:26

Noisytoot

Did you mean pro-RMS?

May 22 20:26

MinceR

phobos: if you just want to chat, try #chat there

May 22 20:26

phobos

can do. Thanks for the tip

May 22 20:27

schestowitz

Noisytoot: seems so

schestowitz

I heard the same

schestowitz

but

schestowitz

it depends which member of staff you 'get'

schestowitz

there are cliques

May 22 20:29

CrystalMath

Noisytoot: oops, yeah

May 22 20:29

CrystalMath

my mistake :P

May 22 20:29

schestowitz

anyone willing to read a draft?

May 22 20:31

techrights-bot

Nothing to do at #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aYOBAse

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Not enough work - post regarding IBM layoffs

https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20815295

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pritam@diasp.org: @{Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊); schestowitz@joindiaspora.com} your sites gets a mention and appreciation by Harry Vox https://www.bitchute.com/video/M0n7OPbaXk6d/

https://ircz.de/p/21051436

schestowitz

wow, his whole video seems to be about techrights

May 22 20:37

schestowitz

but it's undavoury

May 22 20:37

schestowitz

actually, now that I watch it...

May 22 20:41

schestowitz

he's not so cranky

May 22 20:41

schestowitz

maybe I judge by his looks and comments on the video

May 22 20:41

XRevan86

rasengan: What this screenshot tells me is that "_Freenode_" is an organisation, "freenode", "tomaw" (and then "kevinifc") are accounts that have the owner permission.

May 22 20:46

XRevan86

rasengan: Which thing got locked in behind 2FA?

May 22 20:47

rasengan

The organization.

May 22 20:47

XRevan86

I'm looking through the Gandi documentation, and I cannot find anything that would imply 2FA for organisations. And they don't even have passwords.

May 22 20:48

XRevan86

it has an email address and the owner team

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May 22 21:05

*imode is now known as opal

May 22 21:05

schestowitz

that video linked to in diapora is actually awful

May 22 21:15

schestowitz

it's like the alex jones crap, starting calm and then going 100% crazy

May 22 21:15

MinceR

May 22 21:17

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May 22 21:17

XRevan86

MinceR: the heck

May 22 21:17

MinceR

May 22 21:18

schestowitz

yup

May 22 21:18

CrystalMath

rasengan: btw, did you see my question about people who lock their channels and forward to libera? can anything be done or do we have to wait 60 days?

May 22 21:22

CrystalMath

this is just a hypothetical question, i see no such channel right now, but there are threats

May 22 21:22

psydroid

it's like squatting a channel and being offended that it is released and given to people who actually (want to) do something with it

May 22 21:23

XRevan86

CrystalMath: So far Freenode hasn't had a clause about disloyalty.

May 22 21:23

psydroid

a channel that isn't used shouldn't really exist

May 22 21:24

CrystalMath

rasengan: i will assume that we just have to wait 60 days then, as usual

May 22 21:24

XRevan86

CrystalMath: That's for ## channels of course

CrystalMath

yes, ## channels only

techrights-bot

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CrystalMath

i would never try to contradict the wishes of a project

CrystalMath

sadly it seems that FVWM is moving to libera

CrystalMath

but oh well

techrights-bot

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schestowitz

CrystalMath: you speak only of the 'negatives'

May 22 21:31

schestowitz

let's focus on the positives

May 22 21:31

CrystalMath

most of the channels i'm in are not moving :)

CrystalMath

that's a positive

schestowitz

yes

schestowitz

let's keep morale high

schestowitz

and be patient

schestowitz

it's similar to March 23rd

schestowitz

the 'second 9/11'

schestowitz

'free software 9/11'

schestowitz

I think Oliva coined that

Chaekyung

so a false flag?

May 22 21:33

Chaekyung

or does Oliva believe in the fairy tale 9/11 story even though it defies 9 basic laws of physics?

May 22 21:33

CrystalMath

Chaekyung: i see no laws of physics violated in the event

May 22 21:34

CrystalMath

but there are suspicious things regarding how the planes eluded military control

May 22 21:34

MinceR

https://xkcd.com/690/

May 22 21:35

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Semicontrolled Demolition

May 22 21:35

schestowitz

CrystalMath: let's keep on topic

May 22 21:37

schestowitz

the analogy isn't meant to remark to that effect

May 22 21:37

schestowitz

but the aftermath of it

schestowitz

MinceR: ha

CrystalMath

MinceR: heh, that's kinda i how feel :P

schestowitz

anyone wanna read a draft?

Chaekyung

CrystalMath: I see. So you believe the laws of physics allow buildings just totally pulverize in 9.6 seconds thirty minutes after being hit by something in one of the upper floors. That's interesting.

May 22 21:39

CrystalMath

it's a runaway effect due to heat, not due to being hit

schestowitz

baronhk[m]1: I have just gone past Mumblings Of A "Big New" Open-Source GPU Driver Coming... https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Big-New-Driver-Coming

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mumblings Of A "Big New" Open-Source GPU Driver Coming... - Phoronix

schestowitz

you were right

CrystalMath

Chaekyung: do the heat equation

schestowitz

it's just some lousy tweets as 'article'

CrystalMath

see how it goes in a model

schestowitz

typical slow news trawl, as if "tweets" are news source

schestowitz

lkml is a lot better as source

CrystalMath

Chaekyung: the impact of the airplane did not take it down, the heat did

Chaekyung

I also like how there's plenty of pictures and videos of massive steel beams being thrown up and away. Last time I checked gravity makes things fall down, not up

schestowitz

oh, come on, let's not talk this in #techrights

schestowitz

mark bilk did that

Chaekyung

but hey, perhaps fundamental islamic terrorist prayed to allah and asked that the laws of physics would be suspended that day

schestowitz

before he died :(

Chaekyung

who's Mark Bilk?

schestowitz

msb

schestowitz

he was a regular here

schestowitz

opensuse user

schestowitz

he died

schestowitz

he had some illness for a long time

schestowitz

was sometimes logging in here from the hospital iirc

MinceR

Mark Bilk used openSUSE. Mark Bilk died. don't die -- don't use openSUSE.

Chaekyung

I see.

schestowitz

anyway, let's keep on topic

Chaekyung

anyway, since I haven't had time to pay attention to whatever drama light, I found some URLs today

http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/say-no-to-paid-for-spam/

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Does Reporting, Not Clickbait or Paid-for Spam | Techrights

schestowitz

this is a draft

schestowitz

if anyone wants to fish for typos and stuff

schestowitz

I am still editing

Chaekyung

https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409 https://news.itsfoss.com/freenode-controversy/ https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/andrew-lee-named-new-korean-crown-prince-300731986.html also see you wrote something about it schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/20/freenode-users/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | freenode-faq.md · GitHub

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Open Source World's Favorite IRC Network Freenode is in Turmoil - It's FOSS News

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Andrew Lee Named New Korean Crown Prince

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | There’s a Staff Exodus at Freenode, But It’s Not a Users Exodus (No Compelling Practical Reasons to Leave) | Techrights

Chaekyung

I don't really get it. is it Korean Prince bad

Chaekyung

like orange man bad except it's korean prince?

schestowitz

it's the framing

Chaekyung

I can't seem to figure out what, if anything, the story is

May 22 21:44

schestowitz

david v goliath

May 22 21:44

schestowitz

rasengan being evil Goliath

May 22 21:44

schestowitz

you condition or PRE-condition people into allegiances

May 22 21:45

techrights-bot

VirtIO-GPU/Graphics Support Is Improving In #QEMU But Slowly - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=VirtIO-GPU-QEMU-2021-H1-State ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/22/#latest

May 22 21:49

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VirtIO-GPU/Graphics Support Is Improving In QEMU But Slowly - Phoronix

May 22 21:49

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May 22 21:49

search_social

i mean, it is true that a rich person bought freenode, and it is true that this should be cause for scrutiny

May 22 21:50

CrystalMath

search_social: that was in 2017

May 22 21:51

CrystalMath

in 2021 tomaw and his buddies ousted christel after harrasing her

CrystalMath

they they threw a hissy fit

CrystalMath

and left for that libera.crap network

CrystalMath

and now they're trying to force us to go there

XRevan86

How did they harass her by the way? I haven't found anything concrete about it other than it was related to the logo.

search_social

yes there does seem to be some cover up going on about what actually happened in 2017

May 22 21:54

XRevan86

I'm talking about 2021

May 22 21:55

schestowitz

tons of typos corrected

May 22 21:59

techrights-bot

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May 22 21:59

schestowitz

as I understand it, they said nasty things because of what she agreed on years earlier

schestowitz

and the explanation given for it all along

schestowitz

but here's the thing:

schestowitz

freenode was never owned by the staff/volunteers

schestowitz

there used to be another entity in the holding

schestowitz

which depended on donors

schestowitz

users probably did not open their wallet much

schestowitz

advertisers did

XRevan86

schestowitz: Apparently there was a predecessor company that existed, but then got liquidated for costing too much.

May 22 22:03

schestowitz

which one?

May 22 22:03

schestowitz

the 4-letter acronym?

May 22 22:03

techrights-bot

The EPO's War on Justice and Assault on the Law -- Part 17 will be published some time in the morning in #techrights (the series has had a big impact and concrete outcomes)

May 22 22:05

XRevan86

schestowitz: Open Projects Network

schestowitz

oh, that

schestowitz

ages ago

XRevan86

Ah, no, PDPC

schestowitz

XRevan86

the 4-letter acronym, right

schestowitz

not sure what that stands for, but i saw it before

MinceR

Peer-Directed Projects Center

XRevan86

schestowitz: Freenode has existed for many years without any company above it.

May 22 22:07

schestowitz

true

May 22 22:08

XRevan86

schestowitz: And all contacts with Freenode were done with the staff.

May 22 22:08

schestowitz

was it self-funding and sustainable on its own?

May 22 22:08

XRevan86

schestowitz: The infrastructure was donated by the sponsors (to the staff), the staff was unpaid.

schestowitz

everything has operational costs

schestowitz

even us

schestowitz

I foot the bills for everything from my own pocket

schestowitz

which isn't a deep pocket

schestowitz

some donate hardware

XRevan86

schestowitz: rasengan has mentioned spending money on legal protections, I am not aware of any other involvement. Apart from renewing the domains.

schestowitz

like kaniini

schestowitz

XRevan86: maybe servers

schestowitz

how many servers have freenode irc daemons on them?

schestowitz

1000?

schestowitz

100?

schestowitz

I assume some are multi-tenant

XRevan86

schestowitz: https://freenode.net/acknowledgements

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | Acknowledgements - freenode

schestowitz

GNU is in there

schestowitz

users of the network

schestowitz

some of them

schestowitz

with stake in its stability

XRevan86

schestowitz: But since PIA and then Shells was present prominently, I assume LTM helped as well. I do wonder how much compared to the independent sponsors.

search_social

PIA donated $50k to FSF for 4 years too

schestowitz

XRevan86: 7 or 8 years of sponsorship

schestowitz

he says 3k a month

schestowitz

from shells anyway

XRevan86

schestowitz: To where?

schestowitz

since March (when the logo was up)

schestowitz

PIA has tons of servers

schestowitz

maybe over 3000

schestowitz

based on a recent article from south-asian/southchina/hk press

schestowitz

and they don't log

schestowitz

so tbh I don't mind them hosting some of it... if that helps keep the platform reliable and secure

schestowitz

show me evidence of them being rogue

schestowitz

I've not seen any yet

schestowitz

they also paid my friend glyn moody to do journalism in their site

schestowitz

they saved linux journal

schestowitz

they pay the FSF

XRevan86

schestowitz: PIA is also mentioned in the Acknowledgements

schestowitz

they didn't sign anti-FSF letters

https://www.fsf.org/patrons

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Current patrons — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software

https://www.fsf.org/patrons/fy2020

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSF patrons during fiscal year 2020 — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software

schestowitz

top sponsor last year

schestowitz

the sole one

XRevan86

schestowitz: Anyway, the staff has clearly decided that they can be self-funding and sustainable on their own.

schestowitz

50k, about one's person's annual salary

schestowitz

XRevan86: when?

schestowitz

in recent years pia was runnin the show

XRevan86

schestowitz: When they ditched the company

schestowitz

like days ago?

schestowitz

time will tell if they can endure

schestowitz

and can maintain as many servers as necessary

XRevan86

schestowitz: They're not novices.

schestowitz

technically not

May 22 22:17

schestowitz

but they have long operated under an umbrella that included sponsors

May 22 22:17

XRevan86

schestowitz: I think they're planning on attracting sponsors.

May 22 22:17

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XRevan86

Who hosts OFTC I wonder

May 22 22:18

techrights-bot

#OniVim 2: The Only Useful Graphical Vim Client https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N41BLL75PxA

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OniVim 2: The Only Useful Graphical Vim Client - YouTube

schestowitz

moments ago https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/migration-of-postgresql-irc-channels-2216/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Migration of #postgresql IRC channels

schestowitz

well, psql

schestowitz

bsd

schestowitz

so far still very few projects that openly announce this

May 22 22:21

schestowitz

I can count them on ONE hand

May 22 22:21

techrights-bot

#Games : Smach Z, Petal Crash, Wildermyth • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151489 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

May 22 22:23

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Smach Z, Petal Crash, Wildermyth | Tux Machines

May 22 22:23

techrights-bot

#OSGeoLive 14.0 is out, but their pages are still not updated to reflect that https://live.osgeo.org/en/index.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-live.osgeo.org | Welcome to OSGeoLive 13.0 — OSGeoLive 13.0 Documentation

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Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151490 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

May 22 22:27

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

May 22 22:27

techrights-bot

Old and historic: #EbenMoglen Steps Down From Free Software Foundation https://www.informationweek.com/eben-moglen-steps-down-from-free-software-foundation/d/d-id/1054465?

May 22 22:29

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eben Moglen Steps Down From Free Software Foundation - InformationWeek

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techrights-bot

#marketresearchtelecast a computer program-generated spew site? Using translators to make it seem like originals? Why does #googlenews keep falling for what seems like 'sophisticated' plagiarism operations?

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techrights-bot

This is a celebration of #surveillance and effort at inducing a self-serving prediction upon the population https://siliconangle.com/2021/05/21/covid-19-accelerates-technological-revolution-as-the-world-grows-closer-to-the-edge-think2021/

May 22 22:35

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-COVID-19 accelerates technological revolution as the world grows closer to the edge - SiliconANGLE

May 22 22:35

techrights-bot

#Monopolies #walledGardens #apple #gafam #ProprietarySoftware https://www.cnet.com/news/apples-tim-cook-grilled-by-judge-overseeing-epics-fortnite-trial/

May 22 22:38

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's Tim Cook grilled by judge overseeing Epic's Fortnite trial - CNET

May 22 22:38

techrights-bot

Gatekeepers and #ProprietarySoftware pay booths/tolls https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-epic-games/apple-app-store-profits-look-disproportionate-us-judge-tells-ceo-cook-idUSKCN2D217K

May 22 22:39

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple’s Tim Cook says ‘threat profile’ of iPhone justifies App Store rules | Reuters

May 22 22:39

techrights-bot

"Band 10s always have a target on their back at IBM. Either way, that’s the problem with IBM. They always hold back your career one way or another." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aYfLMf0#replies many retire early or leave to avoid the sacking https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aY8iMCf

May 22 22:46

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | High salary, but promotion never comes - post regarding IBM layoffs

May 22 22:46

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Just got job offer outside IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs

May 22 22:46

techrights-bot

" #Ibm could try to unload the pension for a profit (currently it’s over funded by 3-4%), BUT IBM’s pension must comply to the feds rules which are quite strict due to the federal pension guarantee rules, so unloading it seems like a lot of work for 3-4%. Would IBM do it?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aY56fW7#replies

May 22 22:47

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Pension - post regarding IBM layoffs

May 22 22:47

techrights-bot

New article on hyperlinking in #geminiprotocol gemini://lonelysilo.ca/article/links-and-anchors.gmi #geminiSpace

May 22 22:54

techrights-bot

The #techrights gemini capsule soon turns 4 months in age gemini://gemini.techrights.org/

May 22 22:55

techrights-bot

On average, the #techrights gemini capsule serves 5k pages per day. And the month-to-month growth is huge because more people discover and then choose to use #geminiSpace for more of the things they need, such as news gathering, weather forecast, blogging etc.

May 22 22:57

techrights-bot

"After my previous post, a chap from my local Linux Users Group tipped me off to uBlock Origin (Legacy), which is an alternative script blocker." http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.833.2

May 22 22:59

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May 22 22:59

techrights-bot

FOSS Patents: Friday for #Fortnite ⚓ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/05/friday-for-fortnite.html ䷉ by @fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/22/#latest

May 22 23:00

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Friday for Fortnite

May 22 23:00

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

May 22 23:00

techrights-bot

This has nothing to do with protection but everything to do with #monopoly or #protectionism that put lives at risk (for selfish reasons http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/22/importance-of-second-medical-use-protection-is-growing/

May 22 23:02

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | ‘Importance of second medical use protection is growing' - Kluwer Patent Blog

May 22 23:02

techrights-bot

"The ‘924 patent relates generally to management of applications..." = #swpats or #SoftwarePatents and #uspto should toss this in the wastebasket https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/5/20/aprese-reexamination-request-granted

May 22 23:03

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Aprese reexamination request granted — Unified Patents

May 22 23:03

schestowitz

TIL this is a UK-based thing... awful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | BitChute - Wikipedia

alextee[m]

>known for accommodating far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hateful content

schestowitz

"At launch, the site claimed it was using peer-to-peer WebTorrent technology.[14] However, a November 2019 report by Fredrick Brennan, published in The Daily Dot, failed to find any evidence of peer-to-peer data transfer in BitChute's videos.[20] All videos Brennan downloaded came directly from BitChute's servers, with no part of the videos received from peers. According to Brennan, magnet links on the site don't work. Brennan

alextee[m]

the first line in wikipedia. wikipedia is compromised

schestowitz

challenged BitChute's use of the word "delist" to describe deplatforming users, saying that the wording is misleading in that it makes BitChute seem falsely similar to BitTorrent (where a site maintains one "list" of content, but independent trackers may be created as well), when in reality BitChute is just deleting a user's videos from the BitChute site.[20] According to Ars Technica in April 2021, the option to host videos using

schestowitz

WebTorrent on BitChute "appears to have been deprecated".[32]"

schestowitz

is this an oversimplication?

schestowitz

I saw someone there today after someone had told me there did a video all abot

schestowitz

about Techrights

schestowitz

that contained really awful parts like COVID denial

schestowitz

but just offlining millions of people also isn't the solution

schestowitz

I think it's one of those problem nobody has an answer to

schestowitz

(least me or you, alextee[m])

schestowitz

I heard theories about suppression of speech leading to violent action

alextee[m]

there's peertube

schestowitz

as they cannot vent out verbally

alextee[m]

i don't understand why the answer to a problem created by centralization is some other centralization

alextee[m]

using bitchute instead of youtube is a bit stupid

schestowitz

different "masters"

schestowitz

liveleaks is another

alextee[m]

yeah and it got shut down. they never learn

schestowitz

but as I understand it liveleaks isn't for "hate speech"

schestowitz

but rather things like violent footage (IME)

schestowitz

liveleaks is offline?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiveLeak

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | LiveLeak - Wikipedia

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schestowitz

"The site was shut down on 7 May 2021. The website currently redirects to ItemFix, another video sharing site"

alextee[m]

yeah apparently with no explanation

schestowitz

I saw no news about this

alextee[m]

probably intelligence agencies

alextee[m]

there's probably lots of intimidation behind the scenes

schestowitz

it was also uk-based

schestowitz

yes, I can imagine

schestowitz

or draining people out

phobos

Or liberals held a 'mostly peaceful protest' at the server facility

schestowitz

putting them dowen

schestowitz

splitting etc.

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phobos: liveleak

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is different

schestowitz

it's something leftists can relate to

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and liberals too

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the establishment liberals

phobos

Yeah, it was just a wise ass remark

schestowitz

it's more like antiwar IME

phobos

since they seem to torch or loot whatever catches their eye in that moment

schestowitz

"On 19 August 2014 a video depicting the beheading of US journalist James Foley was posted by Islamic State terrorists on YouTube and other sites. When it was reported on by US News & World Report, YouTube and Facebook deleted all related footage and implemented bans, increasing demand for LiveLeak's footage as they currently allowed this.[14] In response to the James Foley video, Hewitt posted that LiveLeak's policy had been updated

schestowitz

to ban all beheading footage produced by ISIS.[15][5] The website will continue to host the original video that depicted the aftermath of Foley's execution for its historical relevance as it does not depict the beheading itself."

schestowitz

They went after IA as well

schestowitz

with that episode

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the straw man of beheading and ISIS

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because people kept uploading it to IA

schestowitz

"On 24 March 2014, LiveLeak and Ruptly announced a content partnership"

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruptly

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ruptly - Wikipedia

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"It is a subsidiary of the Russian state-controlled[7] television network RT"

MinceR

wise ass-remark

May 22 23:15

schestowitz

anyway, I feel dirty just looking that up

May 22 23:15

schestowitz

all those sites

May 22 23:15

schestowitz

not "dark web" per se

schestowitz

but more worthy of that label than sites that require passwords or Tor to access

alextee[m]

it's definitely something you could get put on a list for in the UK i think lol

alextee[m]

just pinging that server

schestowitz

alextee[m]: I use wikipedia first

schestowitz

as a friend did too

schestowitz

trying to figure out where that comes from

schestowitz

we don't want to be associated with people in binchute

schestowitz

it's like the literal youtube garbage can

May 22 23:17

alextee[m]

yeah staying neutral is the best when it comes to these things

May 22 23:17

techrights-bot

"Sponsored by"... #managingip wants to be thought of as "journalism"... but it's propaganda and "content farm" for #litigatibn profiteers... and they don't hide it too well https://www.managingip.com/article/b1rxkxfjmk0s6x/south-korea-supreme-courts-en-banc-ruling-drops-registration-defence-for-later-registered-trademarks

May 22 23:18

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | South Korea: Supreme Court’s en banc ruling drops registration defence for later-registered trademarks | Managing Intellectual Property

May 22 23:18

XRevan86

Sudden thought: how do people say "mazut" in English? Answer: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mazut#English

May 22 23:21

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | mazut - Wiktionary

May 22 23:21

techrights-bot

"Bio-Rad turned this argument on its head in contending that 10X Genomics' product did not practice the invention claimed in the asserted claims of the '530 #patent " (embargo without or with barely any #dueprocess because of #itc ) https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/05/bio-rad-laboratories-inc-v-intl-trade-comm-fed-cir-2021.html

May 22 23:22

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc. v. Int'l. Trade Comm. (Fed. Cir. 2021)

May 22 23:22

techrights-bot

#Patent lawyers love dragging everything to the realm and "HEY HI" and other nebulous nonsense because therein the technical arguments stop and it's all just a circus of waffle, including the mischaracterisation of #softwarepatents https://www.latham.london/2021/05/all-those-in-favour-say-ai-uk-ipo-publishes-response-to-its-consultation-on-artificial-intelligence-and-intellectual-property/

May 22 23:24

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-All Those in Favour, Say AI: UK IPO Publishes Response to Its Consultation on Artificial Intelligence and Intellectual Property | Latham.London | Latham & Watkins

May 22 23:24

techrights-bot

So many #designpatents even though such #patents ought not exist at all; they're a distortion of the underlying rationale of #patentlaw https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/almost-uninterrupted-tuesdays.html see http://techrights.org/2018/08/02/design-patents-legitimacy/

May 22 23:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | 173 Years of (Almost) Uninterrupted Tuesdays | Patently-O

May 22 23:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Design Patents: When Appearances Rather Than Inventions and Functions Are Oddly Enough Covered by Patents, Not Copyrights or Trademarks | Techrights

May 22 23:26

techrights-bot

Phony leader and outright fraud Campinos now adds jeans to his sneakers, pretending he's casual while in fact abetting corruption in Europe's second-largest institution https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210520a.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - PATLIB2021 conference heralds enhanced support for innovators in Europe

schestowitz

XRevan86: mazut ozil?

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mesut

XRevan86

schestowitz: mazut oil

schestowitz

:-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesut_Özil?wprov=srpw1_0

schestowitz

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mesut Özil - Wikipedia

schestowitz

Mesut Oil :-)

schestowitz

the secret of his hairstyle

May 22 23:33

XRevan86

schestowitz: oh, I see, had no idea who this is

May 22 23:33

*inky (~inky@141.136.77.22) has joined #techrights

May 22 23:33

psydroid

former benchwarmer at Arsenal

May 22 23:34

techrights-bot

Rose Hughes (AstraZeneca): "I. Beckedorf has therefore also been replaced on the panel." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/epo-responds-to-accusations-of.html #techrights broke the story a day earlier: http://techrights.org/2021/05/20/calle-josefsson-deposed/

May 22 23:36

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | EPO responds to accusations of perceived bias in G1/21 (ViCo oral proceedings) - The IPKat

May 22 23:36

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Breaking EPO News Regarding G 1/21: Judge Calle Josefsson Deposed as Chairman | Techrights

May 22 23:36

techrights-bot

#uspto #Fakepatents #bogusPatents #patents #monopolies https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/withdrawn-patents.html

May 22 23:38

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Withdrawn patents.

May 22 23:38

techrights-bot

Some truly obscene #greenwashing of #monopolies from people who make a living selling monopolies https://www.dlapiper.com/en/us/insights/publications/2021/05/green-ip-the-interplay-between-ip-law-sustainability-and-esg/ see http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/epo-greenwashing-stunts/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dlapiper.com | Green IP: the interplay between IP law, sustainability and ESG in the EU | Insights | DLA Piper Global Law Firm

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO Abuses Climate Change, Hijacking or Misusing Grassroots Activism for Corporate Public Relations Stunts | Techrights

schestowitz

psydroid: lol

schestowitz

true

*willyg_cos (~joeuser@184.99.61.86) has joined #techrights

schestowitz

Sanchez left first

*schestowitz gives voice to willyg_cos

schestowitz

they can barely find a decent coach now

schestowitz

psydroid: I didn't know he left for a Turkish club earlier this year

May 22 23:43

schestowitz

now it's a shorter trip to Ankara if he wants to kiss Erdogan's palm

May 22 23:43

schestowitz

and enrage fellow Germans

May 22 23:43

techrights-bot

"Here I interview the great Stephan #Kinsella and discuss whether or not #patents and intellectual [sic] property [sic] are actually a good thing. We get into philosophy, practical advice, and more." https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol336-are-patents-actually-harmful-dan-engerer/

May 22 23:45

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL336 | Are Patents Actually Harmful? Interview with Dan Engerer

May 22 23:45

schestowitz

OK, freenode seems to have calmed down

May 22 23:46

schestowitz

no trolls, no spam, no netsplits for a while

May 22 23:46

schestowitz

MinceR: do we need restrictions in channel modes? Do you see vandals in other channels?

May 22 23:47

MinceR

looks like oftc is still getting something, and ircnet certainly is being attacked

May 22 23:47

techrights-bot

#ibm is no place to climb upwards https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aYfLMf0#replies

May 22 23:50

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | High salary, but promotion never comes - post regarding IBM layoffs

May 22 23:50

techrights-bot

"If you're not already wearing a Fedora, I highly advise getting one. As this place moves in that direction, our traditional positions will become less and less needed." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aYOBAse#replies #redhat #fedora #ibm

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Not enough work - post regarding IBM layoffs

MinceR

lol

MinceR

wear the logo of a dying distro