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| baronhk[m]1 | MinceR, the guy who started Internet Explorer at Microsoft left and founded a company he says will eventually create a direct neural interface to control machines with your mind. | May 21 00:00 |
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| baronhk[m]1 | Facebook recently bought them out. | May 21 00:00 |
| schestowitz__ | baronhk[m]1: you use PIA and Mandy does too, right? | May 21 00:00 |
| schestowitz__ | For Japanese anime | May 21 00:00 |
| XRevan86 | rasengan: Who even is KindOne? | May 21 00:00 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I configured his copy of Chrome to use PIA as a proxy. | May 21 00:00 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It lets you exempt Hulu and Netflix that way. | May 21 00:01 |
| XRevan86 | And why would anyone even do such a thing!? | May 21 00:01 |
| schestowitz__ | "for the lols" | May 21 00:01 |
| schestowitz__ | "shits and giggles" | May 21 00:01 |
| kingoffrance | ^ too much of this stuff reeks of that ritual thing | May 21 00:02 |
| kingoffrance | "you're all alone" | May 21 00:02 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I use it with Wireguard at the OS networking level so it covers my torrents. | May 21 00:02 |
| kingoffrance | truth is not consensus | May 21 00:02 |
| kingoffrance | majority may or may not be correct | May 21 00:02 |
| kingoffrance | irrelevant | May 21 00:02 |
| schestowitz__ | that worked in Twiter | May 21 00:02 |
| MinceR | 21 010021 < baronhk[m]1> MinceR, the guy who started Internet Explorer at Microsoft left and founded a company he says will eventually create a direct neural interface to control machines with your mind. | May 21 00:02 |
| MinceR | lol | May 21 00:02 |
| MinceR | what a sales pitch | May 21 00:02 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I see much less protocol overhead with Wireguard than OpenVPN on Windows or Linux. | May 21 00:02 |
| schestowitz__ | but the counter-petition thwarted the narrative | May 21 00:02 |
| MinceR | "finally you can wire something developed to the same quality standards as IE directly to your brain!" | May 21 00:03 |
| kingoffrance | just got up and read the scrollback, i was gonna say also: re: (quoting quoting) <schestowitz__> I think attacking a specific organisation is worse than attacking a <schestowitz__> class defined by a behaviour." trttl " it's hard to believe that people are actually this confused" <-- well, it is more of scalia's "formalism" type "rule of law". it appears at first glance to be "behavior, not appearance" but then "class defined b | May 21 00:03 |
| kingoffrance | y behavior" seals it. i guess you can't have class war without divyying ppl into classes first lol | May 21 00:03 |
| schestowitz__ | baronhk[m]1: very few lines of coee | May 21 00:03 |
| schestowitz__ | *code | May 21 00:03 |
| baronhk[m]1 | <MinceR ""finally you can wire something "> Security Zones and ActiveX | May 21 00:03 |
| schestowitz__ | in kernel.org (linux) at least | May 21 00:03 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 00:03 |
| baronhk[m]1 | We all know how that ended. | May 21 00:03 |
| kingoffrance | "class defined by behavior" is basically another "some ppl are above the law" | May 21 00:04 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Microsoft ended up bogged down trying to support both standards and the mess it created trying to hijack them within the same browser. | May 21 00:04 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Still is for another decade. | May 21 00:04 |
| *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | May 21 00:05 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Putting IE rendering mode into Edge is just as ugly as having it in EdgeHTML Edge. | May 21 00:05 |
| schestowitz__ | EdgeHTML LOL | May 21 00:05 |
| schestowitz__ | MSIE rebranded | May 21 00:05 |
| schestowitz__ | AZ COVAX | May 21 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: Both are dead now. | May 21 00:06 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Well, it was basically IE 11 Standards Mode without any compatibility renderers. | May 21 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | who? what? | May 21 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | edge and html? :-) | May 21 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | I wish | May 21 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | Although, no, Microsoft will keep support for Trident until 2029 apparently. | May 21 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | let's go to gemini.. | May 21 00:07 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Then they started adding more stuff to it while IE rotted. | May 21 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: I meant Trident and EdgeHTML. | May 21 00:07 |
| baronhk[m]1 | In 2015, there was very little rendering difference between IE 11 Standard Mode and EdgeHTML. | May 21 00:07 |
| baronhk[m]1 | But by last year there definitely was. | May 21 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | well, those are irrelevant now | May 21 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | thankfully | May 21 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft is mostly faking importance now | May 21 00:08 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Well, Chromium as the only engine out there is a big problem. | May 21 00:09 |
| baronhk[m]1 | At the rate Microsoft was going, EdgeHTML would have been open sourced eventually. | May 21 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | for years now | May 21 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | baronhk[m]1: nobody would adopt it | May 21 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | no point to... | May 21 00:09 |
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| baronhk[m]1 | Apple is not going to adopt Chromium but they've given up on their own extensions model in Safari. Copied the one from Chrome. | May 21 00:10 |
| baronhk[m]1 | WebExtensions is going to be missing from GNOME's browser for quite a while because a lot of that is not related to the engine. | May 21 00:11 |
| techrights-bot | ProfilePress Rebrands and Repurposes WP User Avatar, Now a Membership Plugin, Users Revolt via the #WordPress Review System https://wptavern.com/profilepress-rebrands-and-repurposes-wp-user-avatar-now-a-membership-plugin-users-revolt-via-the-wordpress-review-system | May 21 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wptavern.com | ProfilePress Rebrands and Repurposes WP User Avatar, Now a Membership Plugin, Users Revolt via the WordPress Review System – WordPress Tavern | May 21 00:12 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Some is, some isn't. There's quite a lot you have to do in the browser shell to get GUIs and stuff running. | May 21 00:12 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Even SeaMonkey has compatibility problems. | May 21 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | > (17:27:58) amdj: rasengan: tomaw doesn't claim to be anything. christel resigned and we (all, collectively) elected tomaw to the head of staff position. tomaw had nothing to do with it. if you're going to keep up with these lies I'm going to mute you. | May 21 00:13 |
| baronhk[m]1 | One reason why EdgeHTML was never going to have a lot of extensions even if it copied the API was because Microsoft still had to convince developers to port the extension to Edge, test it, and put it in their store. | May 21 00:14 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Very few ever bothered. | May 21 00:14 |
| techrights-bot | But... will #icc also investigate #nato bombing that left #libya in utter ruin, with a #uk role? https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/supporting-the-icc-prosecutors-ongoing-investigations-in-libya | May 21 00:14 |
| XRevan86 | baronhk[m]1: Firefox somehow doesn't have that problem. | May 21 00:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Supporting the ICC Prosecutor's ongoing investigations in Libya - GOV.UK | May 21 00:14 | |
| XRevan86 | But I guess it's because Edge users weren't the creating extensions type. | May 21 00:15 |
| techrights-bot | Alternative solution: release the animals to their natural habitat? https://www.thenational.scot/news/19273877.scottish-zoo-celebrates-able-welcome-back-visitors-lockdown/ | May 21 00:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenational.scot | Scottish zoo celebrates being able to welcome back visitors after lockdown | The National | May 21 00:15 | |
| *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights | May 21 00:17 | |
| XRevan86 | (17:28:54) eeeeeta: rasengan: a few days ago you instructed the freenode staff to give kevinp admin access | May 21 00:17 |
| baronhk[m]1 | <XRevan86 "But I guess it's because Edge us"> When that news article said cops in Texas asked that guy how he ended up with so much child porn and they wanted to know where he got it and he said "Bing", I was dismayed. | May 21 00:18 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Then the New York Times called them out on it. | May 21 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | baronhk[m]1: Thank goodness he didn't say "Searx" or something. | May 21 00:19 |
| baronhk[m]1 | For many years, over a decade, people could just get on Bing or Windows Live Search and entire CP search terms and it would just bring it up in the video tab. | May 21 00:19 |
| baronhk[m]1 | At the same time, Microsoft said it was providing PhotoDNA to law enforcement, it was showing people things that should have been in PhotoDNA on Bing. | May 21 00:20 |
| baronhk[m]1 | *enter search terms | May 21 00:20 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I mean, it was pretty brazen. Any other search company that spent fifteen years with that kind of mess and no filters would have been raided by federal agents and shut down. | May 21 00:21 |
| techrights-bot | "People on the internet often talk about his past "problematic" behavior, when doing so they usually link you, directly or indirectly, to one of the articles reviewed here." https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ | May 21 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sterling-archermedes.github.io | Low grade "journalists" and internet mob attack RMS with lies. In-depth review. | May 21 00:22 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Many search engines don't return anything pornographic at all to avoid exactly this sort of accusation. | May 21 00:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Actually, there's something even worse than human relations here: ownership. | May 21 00:23 |
| XRevan86 | ownership disputes that is | May 21 00:23 |
| baronhk[m]1 | https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a36449310/marvel-kevin-feige-whitewashing-doctor-strange/ | May 21 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.menshealth.com | Marvel President Kevin Feige Says He Regrets 'Doctor Strange' Whitewashing | May 21 00:24 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Do something to avoid racism, get accused of racism. | May 21 00:24 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Roy doesn't get how this is all interconnected. We're dealing with a plague of these folks who complain about everything while the company they work for is 99% white, including them, and maybe a touch past that. Like Matthew Garrett. | May 21 00:25 |
| baronhk[m]1 | What are they doing about this problem? | May 21 00:26 |
| baronhk[m]1 | mjg59 was working for a company full of white men who was making dragnet software targeting black people to sell to the cops and running contracts to help ICE put kids in cages. | May 21 00:27 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: everyone wants to own that network | May 21 00:27 |
| schestowitz__ | now they have their own network | May 21 00:27 |
| schestowitz__ | and they compete | May 21 00:27 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Whatever takes the focus off of himself, apparently.... That's part of where Cancel Stallman comes from. | May 21 00:27 |
| schestowitz__ | same with fedora etc. | May 21 00:28 |
| baronhk[m]1 | A refusal to recognize that he did more damage at Google than Stallman ever could by a one liner on an obscure blog. | May 21 00:28 |
| schestowitz__ | they didn't like the idea they volunteer and doesn't share ownership | May 21 00:28 |
| schestowitz__ | like red hat did with people who reported bugs in fedora erc. | May 21 00:28 |
| schestowitz__ | etc. | May 21 00:28 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Bugs reported on Fedora just rot. | May 21 00:29 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Two or three years later your email is swamped with a once per day reminder that this bug has seen no further activity. | May 21 00:29 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It has been this way for a while even when the fix is obvious. | May 21 00:29 |
| techrights-bot | #Google brings #Linux app support on #ChromeOS out of beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151386#comment-29707 | May 21 00:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chrome OS’s Linux app support is leaving beta | Tux Machines | May 21 00:30 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | schestowitz In one case I was just asking for them to include a dependency on gstreamer's 32-bit MP3 codec package when the user installed wine so that the WoW64 implementation of DirectShow would work. | May 21 00:31 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Totally ignored. | May 21 00:31 |
| *sebsebseb (~sebastian@unaffiliated/sebsebseb) has joined #techrights | May 21 00:31 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: schestowitz__ ping | May 21 00:31 |
| sebsebseb | anyone here? | May 21 00:31 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Microsoft has been much better about documenting the Windows API lately. | May 21 00:31 |
| sebsebseb | baronhk[m]1: uh not sure who you are but ok someone here | May 21 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | so i just seen a story aout | May 21 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | freenode being sold off to a korean prince bbasically | May 21 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | and lots of the freenode staff leaving | May 21 00:32 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Meet rasengan | May 21 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: what's rasengan ? | May 21 00:32 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: A korean prince bbasically | May 21 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yeah so apparnatly he taking it over a bit or something | May 21 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | and its not liked | May 21 00:32 |
| schestowitz__ | no | May 21 00:33 |
| schestowitz__ | he took over ages ago | May 21 00:33 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: I mean, he's actually here. | May 21 00:33 |
| schestowitz__ | but the staff raises a stink now | May 21 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: what in the channel ? | May 21 00:33 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: yea | May 21 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: oh really | May 21 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | wow | May 21 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | sounds like christel sold it to help sponser freenode live too | May 21 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | or something | May 21 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | i only just starrted reading stuff | May 21 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | ao he's in here doing what jono bacon used to do then :D | May 21 00:34 |
| XRevan86 | Yea, and the domain ended up in Freenode, Ltd. | May 21 00:34 |
| schestowitz__ | baronhk[m]1: Microsoft Paul https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/250262/microsoft-details-deprecated-and-removed-features-in-windows-10-version-21h1 | May 21 00:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Details Deprecated and Removed Features in Windows 10 Version 21H1 - Thurrott.com | May 21 00:34 | |
| sebsebseb | keep ana eye on the potentially controversial channel | May 21 00:34 |
| sebsebseb | but saying that if we got a korean prince in this channel, that's kind of cool in way, isn't it :D ? | May 21 00:34 |
| XRevan86 | So when a head of staff tried to secure control over the domain holding account rasengan took action to regain access. | May 21 00:35 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Deprecation and removal usually improves Windows more than what they add. | May 21 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ev8y/freenode-open-source-korea-crown-prince-takeover | May 21 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | Developers Flee Open Source Project After ‘Takeover’ By Korean Crown Prince | May 21 00:35 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Things have really backed up this much. | May 21 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss | May 21 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On freenode and its commitment to FOSS - freenode | May 21 00:35 | |
| sebsebseb | so is it more of a don't trust Korea thing | May 21 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | a bit liike how people don't just trust the Russians all the time wink wink at XRevan86 :D | May 21 00:36 |
| baronhk[m]1 | "Personalization roaming. Roaming of Personalization settings—like wallpaper, slideshow, accent colors, and lock screen images—is no longer being developed and might be removed in a future release, Microsoft says." | May 21 00:36 |
| XRevan86 | It's actually very weird that they call him that in the title. | May 21 00:36 |
| XRevan86 | is that for click-bait? | May 21 00:36 |
| techrights-bot | #SUSE Linux announces SUSE Edge, SUSE Hybrid IT, SLES 15 SP3 and more http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151326#comment-29708 #opensuse #gnu #linux | May 21 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE and SUSECON Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 21 00:37 | |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: yes | May 21 00:37 |
| CrystalMath | remember when vice posted unbiased truthful articles? | May 21 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | That title describes a person in practically no way whatsoever. | May 21 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | CrystalMath: ages ago | May 21 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | so techrights won't be running off to some other network then, but magiea channels might, it was on one of the mailkng ists there that i just saw an email to do with this | May 21 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | like really investigative stuff | May 21 00:37 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz__: i don't remember :P | May 21 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | then they losr funding | May 21 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Yea, we're getting a split. | May 21 00:37 |
| baronhk[m]1 | In the Windows XP beta days, Bill Gates said eventually you'd just log in and your settings and stuff would just be there regardless of the PC you were using. | May 21 00:37 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Nice to know that this was implemented and then backed out. | May 21 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | went for provocation and witch-hunts instead | May 21 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: why since the don't trust korea stuff? | May 21 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: oh no it's korea, they mus do something bad | May 21 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: A prince? In my IRC? It's more likely than ye think. | May 21 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | uh hold on, russia, china, the us, and even britian, have all done bad things in the past :D | May 21 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | [00:36] <sebsebseb> so is it more of a don't trust Korea thing | May 21 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | sebsebseb: he's American | May 21 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | it's racist to call him that | May 21 00:38 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Freenode, OFTC, LiberaChat | May 21 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | he spent his life there, from birth to adulthood afaik | May 21 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz__: uh the article said korea ? | May 21 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz__: i only just got on it | May 21 00:38 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: The channels will get more spread out around those three networks. | May 21 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | not sure if they even speak any hangul in the home | May 21 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | hadn't finnished reading yet | May 21 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz__: so he's more american, but with links to korea ? | May 21 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | I covered this in video this morning | May 21 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | it's a racist adage | May 21 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | like calling people who are not EUROPEAN American something else | May 21 00:39 |
| sebsebseb | if schestowitz__ trusts him with freenode 's data, then its probably good enough :) | May 21 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | like Indian-American | May 21 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | like they're not "really" USian | May 21 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | it's colonialist mentality | May 21 00:40 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm identi.ca got split | May 21 00:40 |
| sebsebseb | when things changed to pump.io | May 21 00:40 |
| sebsebseb | and lots of stuff got ruinted | May 21 00:40 |
| sebsebseb | but I guess it won't be like that agian, but for Freenode IRC again | May 21 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | sebsebseb: it's a privacy company, PIA | May 21 00:40 |
| sebsebseb | yeah the comapny with freenode in the thing | May 21 00:40 |
| sebsebseb | as one o the projects | May 21 00:40 |
| sebsebseb | ? | May 21 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | but anyway, IRC as a protocol isn't for privacy, unless you self-host | May 21 00:41 |
| schestowitz__ | and even then you need to guard who can access what | May 21 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | yeah it's for text chating onlne | May 21 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | not really for private encrypted chat | May 21 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | if that's what you mean | May 21 00:41 |
| schestowitz__ | right | May 21 00:41 |
| schestowitz__ | server in the middle | May 21 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | which is his server | May 21 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | or possibly | May 21 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | and these people not trusting that? | May 21 00:42 |
| sebsebseb | that's the issue ? | May 21 00:42 |
| schestowitz__ | wikileaks self-hosted irc | May 21 00:42 |
| schestowitz__ | and people kept stealing or leaking things | May 21 00:42 |
| alextee[m] | pretty much every channel I'm in is moving or has already moved to libera chat. i wonder what channels will be left on freenode after the migration | May 21 00:42 |
| schestowitz__ | breaches and breach of trust | May 21 00:42 |
| schestowitz__ | and FBI moles like Sigi | May 21 00:42 |
| sebsebseb | alextee[m]: why ? why have they moved ? | May 21 00:42 |
| schestowitz__ | alextee[m]: I saw none | May 21 00:42 |
| schestowitz__ | some have presence in both | May 21 00:42 |
| alextee[m] | sebsebseb: because the freenode staff moved | May 21 00:42 |
| schestowitz__ | some floated proposals | May 21 00:42 |
| sebsebseb | rasengan: hi :) looks lke your ok :), well then that's ok if idiots move off to other networks since whatever the issue is | May 21 00:43 |
| alextee[m] | #lad #sr.ht #lv2 #linux-libre #mesonbuild #parabola #guix | May 21 00:43 |
| schestowitz__ | predictions of doom and gloom are BS | May 21 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | is this more lik,e oh no Oracle now have bought out sun microsystems so can't do much with open office lets fork it | May 21 00:43 |
| schestowitz__ | I saw people talking about moving | May 21 00:43 |
| alextee[m] | i think only #gnu and #gnunet are still thinking about it | May 21 00:43 |
| schestowitz__ | but not much beyond that | May 21 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | oh and geez now they have my sql | May 21 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | we better fork that too | May 21 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | since that's a direct competer to oracle's stuff | May 21 00:44 |
| schestowitz__ | bbiab | May 21 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | oh virtualbox should be ok under oracle though that can be left | May 21 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: LibreOffice and MariaDB are great projects. | May 21 00:44 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The Windows 10 21H1 update program says my computer is not blacklisted. | May 21 00:45 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Well that's nice. | May 21 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yes but Open Office got forked see above as did mysql see above | May 21 00:45 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I updated the BIOS the other day to the latest one I could find. | May 21 00:45 |
| techrights-bot | Is it also free as in #freesw h https://devops.com/the-future-of-low-code-is-open/ | May 21 00:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Future of Low-Code is Open - DevOps.com | May 21 00:45 | |
| techrights-bot | UofSC experts: 2021 #hurricane season https://www.sc.edu/uofsc/posts/2021/05/2021_hurricane_experts.php | May 21 00:46 |
| XRevan86 | baronhk[m]1: It's out of Release Candidacy? | May 21 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sc.edu | UofSC experts: 2021 hurricane season - UofSC News & Events | University of South Carolina | May 21 00:46 | |
| sebsebseb | rasengan is freenode staff uhmm yeah just seen that, is this the first time we get freenode staff prpoerly coming here :D | May 21 00:46 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Yeah. | May 21 00:46 |
| techrights-bot | Novelist #CoryDoctorow on the Problem with Intellectual Property https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/05/cory-doctorow-interview-bill-gates-intellectual-property #billgates #robbery #monopoly #scam | May 21 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jacobinmag.com | Novelist Cory Doctorow on the Problem with Intellectual Property | May 21 00:46 | |
| sebsebseb | oh no XRevan86 has hiajcked freenode and sucked it into the penetgan in russia some how, let's fork it, a bit like that what we are on about :D ? | May 21 00:47 |
| baronhk[m]1 | You really have to hand it to Microsoft with the Windows 10 upgrades. | May 21 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: the pentegan i meant the kremlin | May 21 00:47 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It used to be press F8 to load a driver and now it's just press F to pay respects when it won't reboot. | May 21 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | or oh it's like when mirosoft bought out uh whatever it's caleld the develoepr thing uh for code mind gone blank | May 21 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: It's more of a triangle. | May 21 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: GitPlex or something? | May 21 00:49 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Apparently, May 2021 isn't a big update. | May 21 00:50 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It removes more legacy crap than the stuff that it features. | May 21 00:50 |
| techrights-bot | #BillGates set the stage for India’s dire response https://www.newframe.com/bill-gates-set-the-stage-for-indias-dire-response/ as more people die his profits will grow. Read https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ | May 21 00:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newframe.com | Bill Gates set the stage for India’s dire response : New Frame | May 21 00:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation | May 21 00:50 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | The biggest removal is going to be the Windows 2000/XP display driver model. | May 21 00:50 |
| XRevan86 | baronhk[m]1: Except that it doesn't actually remove it. | May 21 00:51 |
| baronhk[m]1 | ? | May 21 00:51 |
| XRevan86 | baronhk[m]1: Edge (Legacy) is still there. | May 21 00:51 |
| baronhk[m]1 | EdgeHTML is part of the WinRT API for now. | May 21 00:52 |
| techrights-bot | When your CMS (or similar) is too welcoming... https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/spammers-flood-pypi-with-pirated-movie-links-and-bogus-packages/ | May 21 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Spammers flood PyPI with pirated movie links and bogus packages | May 21 00:53 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | So, yeah, they're stuck with it. But the browser part has been removed. | May 21 00:53 |
| baronhk[m]1 | IEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE | May 21 00:53 |
| baronhk[m]1 | What a mess. | May 21 00:53 |
| XRevan86 | baronhk[m]1: Except that it kind of hasn't? | May 21 00:53 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Can you still reactivate Edge Legacy and use it as a browser? | May 21 00:53 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Up until recently they could be available side by side by flipping a registry bit. | May 21 00:54 |
| baronhk[m]1 | schestowitz__: Jon von Tetzchner posted an article to Vivaldi blog about how Microsoft used IE to try to ruin the web and divert its users to Windows programs. | May 21 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | jackie something a security enginer for biden cmapin also used t obe on freenode it says at the botom of that | May 21 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | that's interesting | May 21 00:55 |
| techrights-bot | Let them eat hype and buzzwords? https://theconversation.com/ethiopias-blockchain-deal-is-a-watershed-moment-for-the-technology-and-for-africa-160719 | May 21 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | Ethiopia's blockchain deal is a watershed moment -- for the technology, and for Africa | May 21 00:55 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Doesn't see the irony that Vivaldi defaults to Bing, I suppose. | May 21 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | so it looks like rasengan spent millions and basically bought out freenode, but it's not quite as simple as that | May 21 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | also does christel still run it like before now or not really ? | May 21 00:56 |
| superkuh | I'm a bit disappointed with the distorted viewpoint techrights is taking on all of this. | May 21 00:57 |
| *superkuh (~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh) has left #techrights ("the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer") | May 21 00:57 | |
| techrights-bot | The Role of Ethics in #Cybersecurity Studies http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150248?page=1#comment-29710 #linux #kernel #umn | May 21 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s Why University of Minnesota is Likely to be Banned from Contributing to Linux Kernel Code | Tux Machines | May 21 00:57 | |
| techrights-bot | "In other words, without the white man coming in to tell India and other middle-income countries how to make vaccines and provide them with his money, these countries would not be able to make vaccines on their own." #billgates #racist #whitesupremacist #eugenics https://www.newframe.com/bill-gates-set-the-stage-for-indias-dire-response/ | May 21 00:59 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The US government is basically treating COVID like getting it under control here means the issue will never be revisited. | May 21 01:01 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I think the truth is they don't want it under control anywhere else. | May 21 01:02 |
| kingoffrance | sebsebseb, i agree with schestowitz__ -- irc generally someone will have your "data" ; i said other day thats why i hope someone revives http://invisibleip.sourceforge.net/iip/index.php | May 21 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-invisibleip.sourceforge.net | Invisible IRC Project | May 21 01:02 | |
| kingoffrance | the "data" thing i find overblown | May 21 01:02 |
| kingoffrance | if you want full-blown decentralized, make it happen :) | May 21 01:02 |
| baronhk[m]1 | They see it as opportunity in disaster, like how US manufacturing thrived after World War 2 and led to decades of prosperity because we were the least affected by the war. | May 21 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | hmm just seen the freenode article from him too | May 21 01:02 |
| kingoffrance | ppl didnt want that 20 years ago, so it died | May 21 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | i see it links to tech rights | May 21 01:02 |
| kingoffrance | ppl say they want that, but few actuallydo :) | May 21 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | so super who left earoier washt happy with techrights what thought about this i assume | May 21 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | let's read hte linked to techrighs thing from the blog post by rasengan | May 21 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | baronhk[m]1: Hm, maybe Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_8wekyb3d8bbwe is actually a stub. | May 21 01:04 |
| MinceR | maybe he would have preferred for us to embrace cancel culture after such upstanding members of the community practiced it | May 21 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: system da and pulseaudio wil move to some other network since this thing I am just reading about :D | May 21 01:05 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: christel resigned. | May 21 01:05 |
| schestowitz__ | [01:04] <MinceR> maybe he would have preferred for us to embrace cancel culture after such upstanding members of the community practiced it | May 21 01:05 |
| schestowitz__ | +1 | May 21 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yeah looks like it by what I just read but why ? | May 21 01:05 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: what, they were using IRC? but IRC is not "modern"... | May 21 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | I guess no Freenode Live in Bristol again unless hmm | May 21 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | rasengan: wait if you have millions and sponser freenode, maybe you can do an event in Bristol again such as Freenode Live, we had two of those and it was great :) | May 21 01:05 |
| baronhk[m]1 | India still has a lot of scammers calling to the US and pretending to be the IRS and stuff. | May 21 01:06 |
| schestowitz__ | "modern" IRC | May 21 01:06 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I know their government tries to shut it down, but it must be worth a lot of money for them to bother with it. | May 21 01:06 |
| schestowitz__ | like "modern" phones | May 21 01:06 |
| schestowitz__ | with 2 cameras and always-on mic | May 21 01:06 |
| schestowitz__ | bring it on | May 21 01:06 |
| rasengan | sebsebseb: Freenode live will return once covid etc. ;-) | May 21 01:06 |
| baronhk[m]1 | schestowitz__: I think my phone has three cameras. | May 21 01:06 |
| schestowitz__ | :D | May 21 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | rasengan: in Bristol again too I hope, my city :) | May 21 01:06 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Yep, three. | May 21 01:07 |
| schestowitz__ | baronhk[m]1: yes, sometimes they put several on one side | May 21 01:07 |
| schestowitz__ | I was gonna say... | May 21 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | rasengan: another guy I know who I meet at confrences hwo used to live in Bristol, always sazid it was ike the best confrence, better than ogg camp the other uk one | May 21 01:07 |
| schestowitz__ | 5 years ago I saw phones with 16 | May 21 01:07 |
| rasengan | sebsebseb: Nice :D Glad you guys enjoyed it | May 21 01:07 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It's 80% done updating. | May 21 01:07 |
| schestowitz__ | btw, I still do all the writing etc. with a simple text editor | May 21 01:07 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I wonder how much of a mess it will make for Disk Cleanup. | May 21 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | rasengan: so I just seen this stuff mentioend on a project i used to be involed with , but read the two links the vice, and your blog post | May 21 01:08 |
| sebsebseb | rasengan: what's the issue? you have proper control over freenode, and certain people don't like that ? | May 21 01:08 |
| XRevan86 | baronhk[m]1: A lot, as always. | May 21 01:08 |
| sebsebseb | rasengan: how come you come here by the way and since when :D | May 21 01:09 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It looks like they retained the Get Windows 10 app to manage updates for Windows 10. | May 21 01:09 |
| sebsebseb | rasengan: yeah apparnatly christel over spent last time though for freenode live | May 21 01:10 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Why are all my Facebook ads about buying a car. | May 21 01:10 |
| baronhk[m]1 | That's part of what put me into bankruptcy. | May 21 01:10 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Even fixing this piece of shit all the time has averaged out to be under 40% of a car payment alone, nevermind the insurance. | May 21 01:10 |
| MinceR | maybe they're monitoring what you say here :> | May 21 01:10 |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151407 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 21 01:11 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: the hungarian goverment alwasy tracking you :D onnlie and otherwise | May 21 01:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Orban is too busy keeping the country fenced | May 21 01:12 |
| schestowitz__ | to keep the virus from spreading outwards | May 21 01:12 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/hungary | May 21 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | Hungary COVID: 800,368 Cases and 29,380 Deaths - Worldometer | May 21 01:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | soon 30k | May 21 01:12 |
| MinceR | orban is too busy winning wars on all fronts against imagined threats to do anything effective against real threats | May 21 01:12 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I'm pretty sure that MinceR can still make it over the chicken wire. | May 21 01:12 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Unless they're shooting people like East Germany did. | May 21 01:13 |
| MinceR | lately he decided not to order any more of comirnaty, he'll instead just keep telling people to take the unknown material bought from sinopharm for lots of money | May 21 01:13 |
| MinceR | nobody wants that, of course | May 21 01:13 |
| baronhk[m]1 | <MinceR "orban is too busy winning wars o"> Gay marriage!!!!! | May 21 01:13 |
| MinceR | we'll reach herd immunity be having the rest of people get infected | May 21 01:13 |
| MinceR | and then they'll do a victory lap. | May 21 01:13 |
| *baronhk[m]1 jumps in wearing a devil costume and wielding a chainsaw | May 21 01:13 | |
| MinceR | s/be h/by h/ | May 21 01:14 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: The company was created to manage Freenode Live exactly. | May 21 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yes it says a confrence... | May 21 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | in the vice link | May 21 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | the confrence would be free nnode live i thoguht when reading that | May 21 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | since that was the only freenode confrence | May 21 01:14 |
| baronhk[m]1 | MinceR: I felt like mocking the FOID law more in my appeal, but I won the appeal. | May 21 01:14 |
| MinceR | :) | May 21 01:14 |
| baronhk[m]1 | No need for victory laps I guess, even though they're fun. | May 21 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | maybe she did sell something off christel to help with the event, and then over spent | May 21 01:14 |
| schestowitz__ | Hungary now at 3,048 deaths per million | May 21 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | and then more recently things got messy so she resigned | May 21 01:15 |
| baronhk[m]1 | If you can kill with a chainsaw, shouldn't they be against the law? | May 21 01:15 |
| schestowitz__ | the virus turns out not to be afraid by "strong leader" | May 21 01:15 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▃▄▁▆█▁▂▆▄▁▁▂▅▅▅▂▅▇▆▄▂▅▄▆▂▁▂▅▅▃▁ avg(k/sec) 20.65 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▃█▂▂██▁▂▂▂▁▂▃▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▃▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 27.48▕ swarm size (avg): 225.19 ⟲ | May 21 01:15 |
| XRevan86 | I do wonder why christel transferred the domain to it and if she told anyone. Because it is still unclear to me how a miscommunication of these proportions even managed to occur. | May 21 01:15 |
| schestowitz__ | ask Bolsonaro and Trump, who "faced off" the virus | May 21 01:15 |
| schestowitz__ | and both got covid | May 21 01:15 |
| schestowitz__ | also our own cheeto nazi, bojo | May 21 01:15 |
| MinceR | this is why orban prefers fighting imagined threats | May 21 01:15 |
| sebsebseb | and she sold whatever to rasengan and some of the prevosu freenode staffers don't like that, yep that seems to be it, oh well | May 21 01:15 |
| MinceR | those are much more difficult to lose against | May 21 01:15 |
| sebsebseb | if Freenode still has good projects on it and such | May 21 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | for open soure | May 21 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | and is a nice network :) | May 21 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | and some other channels too that aren't realy open source, and also starts having events again such as freenode live | May 21 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | then I guess so be it :) | May 21 01:16 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Cheeto Hitler still controls the Republican Party even though it's pretty obvious he's not coming back. | May 21 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | freedom of choise, people that don't like stuff can go else where | May 21 01:16 |
| schestowitz__ | baronhk[m]1: McCarthyism | May 21 01:17 |
| schestowitz__ | Trumpism with a mask | May 21 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | as for the korean stuff as I think like schestowitz__ wsas trying to say earlier, that can be racism basically or depends | May 21 01:17 |
| schestowitz__ | undermining insurrection probe | May 21 01:17 |
| *sebsebseb has been in South Korea for three zoom meetings this year :D | May 21 01:17 | |
| sebsebseb | or was that two | May 21 01:17 |
| baronhk[m]1 | People are pouring out of states they don't like and moving. | May 21 01:17 |
| baronhk[m]1 | So far, this appears to be benefiting the Democrats in national politics. | May 21 01:18 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Well, not necessarily, but it's definitely not in good faith. | May 21 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: which ? | May 21 01:18 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Laser focus on the prince aspect. | May 21 01:18 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The folks who left California solidified the party's control over Presidential elections in Nevada and Colorado, and Arizona is next. | May 21 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | zoobab: well it's the like i put earoier, oh no the koreans might do something bad | May 21 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | for XRevan86 | May 21 01:18 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: "us" versus "them" | May 21 01:18 |
| schestowitz__ | classism | May 21 01:18 |
| baronhk[m]1 | So Fox News cheers the death of California when all they really got is another California. | May 21 01:19 |
| kingoffrance | ^ classism | May 21 01:19 |
| baronhk[m]1 | At least as far as electoral math goes. | May 21 01:19 |
| schestowitz__ | if not, then something race... which they included also | May 21 01:19 |
| kingoffrance | class war veiled as mccarthyism | May 21 01:19 |
| schestowitz__ | with a name like Lee they could say "CHINA!" | May 21 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: it's a bit like plution bought out access to soething or now owns some company, oh no that's the reussian president he's a bit dodgy, so he might do something bad with it | May 21 01:19 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Republicans have not won Colorado, New Mexico, or Nevada since W. | May 21 01:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Lee is a common name in China and Taiwan | May 21 01:19 |
| baronhk[m]1 | They have a big problem there. | May 21 01:19 |
| schestowitz__ | to the average Murcian they're "all the same" anyway | May 21 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: or the heweaii and china thing and the us | May 21 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | on china may have spy ware in 5g | May 21 01:20 |
| sebsebseb | oh no chian may have spyware in 5g | May 21 01:20 |
| kingoffrance | im sure they do; do i trust facebook any better? no | May 21 01:20 |
| kingoffrance | "us vs them" | May 21 01:20 |
| schestowitz__ | VICE is partly Murdoch-owned | May 21 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | or maybe even how in certain cities, if you go to the bad part, or appranat bad part, you may have more of a chance at having your stuff stolen, even if that part was mostly a worse part way back | May 21 01:21 |
| kingoffrance | american companies have so much better track record </sarcasm> | May 21 01:21 |
| schestowitz__ | so... who is "them"? | May 21 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | kingoffrance: yep that's what i mean too | May 21 01:21 |
| kingoffrance | ^ | May 21 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | kingoffrance: uh the usa does bad things too at times | May 21 01:21 |
| schestowitz__ | they started much of the hackjob on RMS | May 21 01:21 |
| kingoffrance | ever-shifting, "not us" schestowitz__ | May 21 01:21 |
| kingoffrance | thats how you get 1984 :) | May 21 01:21 |
| schestowitz__ | by distorting or helping to distort what RMS had said on the list | May 21 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | kingoffrance: but yet people woul genereally trust the usa more than the russians china or even the koreans | May 21 01:21 |
| kingoffrance | consistency doesnt matter | May 21 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | or from the western coutnreis | May 21 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | kingoffrance: oh and that's just a nick i hope :D | May 21 01:22 |
| kingoffrance | sebsebseb, sure, but they shouldnt, not for such a topic anyway | May 21 01:22 |
| schestowitz__ | VICE makes it sound like MbS bought all of FOSS | May 21 01:22 |
| sebsebseb | kingoffrance: if not apaprnatly gogt a korean prince in here now, and also a king of france :D | May 21 01:22 |
| kingoffrance | lol yeah i get ppl flip out on me too lol | May 21 01:23 |
| kingoffrance | yeah just a nick | May 21 01:23 |
| kingoffrance | i can "relate" lol | May 21 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | zoom has chinese links | May 21 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | google face book twtiter is the usa | May 21 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | jitis is open souce but i guess the server is in the us or something | May 21 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | uh it's the internet | May 21 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | things are global | May 21 01:23 |
| kingoffrance | ^ | May 21 01:24 |
| kingoffrance | thats why i find most this "oh noez russia" "oh noez china" "oh noez korea" specious | May 21 01:24 |
| kingoffrance | money is global too from everything i understand | May 21 01:24 |
| sebsebseb | yeah and people from those countires have all put code in the linux kernel i expect | May 21 01:24 |
| MinceR | you can host jitsi wherever you want to, it's free software | May 21 01:24 |
| sebsebseb | yet we trust it doenst' turn our web cam on LInux | May 21 01:24 |
| kingoffrance | its not just nationalism, or fake nationalism, i dont think any of it is even accurate | May 21 01:24 |
| MinceR | afaik | May 21 01:24 |
| sebsebseb | wihtout us knowing and things | May 21 01:24 |
| sebsebseb | but uhmm iis got over 200 million ines of code now too so uhmm | May 21 01:24 |
| MinceR | Linux used to have pretty strong code reviews | May 21 01:25 |
| MinceR | until that got in the way of the oligarchs and forced a CoC on it | May 21 01:25 |
| MinceR | and muzzled Linus | May 21 01:25 |
| sebsebseb | rasengan: Freenode Live 2022 / 2023 Bristol maybe? that would be something :) | May 21 01:25 |
| sebsebseb | rasengan: it should be Bristol yes :) | May 21 01:26 |
| baronhk[m]1 | 25 GB for "previous Windows installation". | May 21 01:30 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Yeah, get rid of that. | May 21 01:30 |
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| kingoffrance | even ppl who say "everything cmoes down to physical borders, some real server at some point" ....doesnt modern world have extradition agreements? | May 21 01:33 |
| kingoffrance | i mean even if that was true, theres still other things that make it "global" | May 21 01:33 |
| XRevan86 | baronhk[m]1: What if ye'd want to revert to the previous installation that is virtually identical to the current one? | May 21 01:33 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I guess I just have to live without the remote display model from Windows 2000. | May 21 01:34 |
| kingoffrance | i would agree with that "class based on behavior better than being for or against specific orgs" if you changed it to "ideas, regardless where they come from" | May 21 01:34 |
| kingoffrance | discussion is supposed to be about ideas | May 21 01:35 |
| kingoffrance | the "persons" of all kinds pushing them come and go | May 21 01:36 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Microsoft Edge (not responding)? | May 21 01:37 |
| baronhk[m]1 | That's my favorite app! | May 21 01:37 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Right after Firefox (not responding)! | May 21 01:37 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 01:39 |
| MinceR | don't you love applications with no name and a generic icon keeping you from shutting the system down? :> | May 21 01:40 |
| techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151412 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 01:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 21 01:41 | |
| techrights-bot | #Kubernetes Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151411 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubernetes Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 21 01:42 | |
| techrights-bot | #OpenHardware /Modding: #RISCV , #Arduino , and #RaspberryPi • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151410 #TuxMachines | May 21 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: RISC-V, Arduino, and Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines | May 21 01:42 | |
| techrights-bot | #FreeSoftware Leftovers and Issues • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151409 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers and Issues | Tux Machines | May 21 01:42 | |
| techrights-bot | #Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151408 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 21 01:42 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | <MinceR "don't you love applications with"> It would be funnier if there was even a reason to put most Linux distros on the computer to replace this piece of shit these days. | May 21 01:47 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Unfortunately, the inmates took over the asylum a long time ago and have reimplemented all of the bad ideas, and have still done less QA on those versions than the ones in Windows 10. | May 21 01:47 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It's finally come to a head at Ubuntu. | May 21 01:47 |
| baronhk[m]1 | systemdunce keeps stopping my computers from shutting down successfully, even 8 years later, and there's just no indication they'll ever patch that. | May 21 01:48 |
| baronhk[m]1 | And Fatpaking your programs is all the rage now. | May 21 01:48 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It's getting worse than Windows in some ways. | May 21 01:48 |
| MinceR | yeah | May 21 01:49 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The Onedrive application icon is back in the start menu. | May 21 01:49 |
| baronhk[m]1 | But it does nothing since I removed it previously. | May 21 01:49 |
| techrights-bot | Links 21/5/2021: #LibreELEC (Matrix) 10.0 Beta 3 and #PostgreSQL 14 Beta 1 • ፕቿርዘዪጎኗዘፕነ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/05/20/postgresql-14-beta-1/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/20/postgresql-14-beta-1/ | May 21 01:50 |
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| baronhk[m]1 | https://www.npr.org/2021/05/20/998660102/oregone-7-oregon-counties-vote-to-back-seceding-so-citizens-can-vote-gop-in-idah | May 21 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Oregone? 7 Oregon Counties Vote To Back Seceding, So Citizens Can Vote GOP In Idaho : NPR | May 21 02:01 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | No chance of it, but it's interesting to note that much of the opposition was because they can sell weed to people from Idaho and they wouldn't be able to if the border changed. | May 21 02:02 |
| kingoffrance | :/ | May 21 02:03 |
| kingoffrance | i dont think legal or not is gonna stop anything :) | May 21 02:03 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Well, they pour over into the counties adjacent to the states where it is illegal and buy weed there. | May 21 02:06 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Illinois has sold more than $180 million in weed to Indiana in the first full year our legalization law was in effect. | May 21 02:06 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The Indiana state government can prosecute people who come in with it, but their law enforcement expenses are racking up while we get their cash. | May 21 02:07 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I'm sorry, $180 million is out of state total. | May 21 02:08 |
| baronhk[m]1 | But a lot of that is IN, because there's really four state borders around us and that's where the majority goes. | May 21 02:08 |
| baronhk[m]1 | We'd be selling more to Indiana except it's also legal in Michigan, so some people buy it there because it's closer. | May 21 02:08 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Abortion will be the same if Roe gets struck down. They'll just open more clinics right across the state line. | May 21 02:09 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Stallman pointed out that Texas is trying to pass a law where anyone can sue anyone for $10,000 if they get an abortion or assist with one. | May 21 02:09 |
| MinceR | the freedom to sue people for getting or assisting an abortion | May 21 02:10 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Basically, under that law if a woman gets an abortion in Texas, I could file a lawsuit in a Texas court against both the doctor and her even though I don't even know her. | May 21 02:10 |
| MinceR | the freedom to practice their religion, their way | May 21 02:11 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Well, I think all it will do is silence the women who go out of state, because the state still has to gather evidence to bring it into court as a crime. | May 21 02:11 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Theoretically, if Roe is struck down, states could pass laws making it a crime to, as a resident, get an abortion out of state. | May 21 02:11 |
| baronhk[m]1 | How do they enforce that? People narcing on themselves on Social Media would be one way. | May 21 02:12 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Right now, even though having sex with a 17 year old is legal in Illinois, they can still charge you with crimes for it. | May 21 02:12 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Contributing to the delinquency of a minor, traveling to meet a minor, potentially kidnapping, so you have a lot of exposure, but what's the most interesting as it relates to a state's ability to prosecute a crime is "traveling". | May 21 02:13 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Texas could say "Traveling to obtain an abortion." is an offense. | May 21 02:13 |
| baronhk[m]1 | How could they enforce it? The travel to obtain an abortion would have to be related to Texas in some way, they would have to prove you traveled somehow and some distance, and they would have to prove what your primary intent for the travel was. | May 21 02:14 |
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| baronhk[m]1 | So basically, you would need to not tell anyone where you were going or why, leave your cell phone at home, don't ever talk about the abortion on an electronic communications device, and preferably find an abortion clinic that destroys patient records quickly even though it is out of state and those records should be covered under HIPAA. | May 21 02:15 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It would also help if you went over there to go shopping or something first and then decided to get the abortion while you were already there, as far as your defense in court. | May 21 02:16 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Stallman says don't be tracked, pay cash. | May 21 02:17 |
| baronhk[m]1 | If you're out of state without permission on probation, your probation officer tends to find out if they want to violate it for something. How? | May 21 02:17 |
| baronhk[m]1 | You're no longer subject to the fourth amendment while you're on probation. If they ask for bank records or cell phone records or anything, they get them because they don't need a warrant. You signed that to avoid going to jail. | May 21 02:18 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It means keep the cell phone at home, don't let anyone take pictures of you out of state, and if you stop for gas or food, pay cash. | May 21 02:18 |
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| baronhk[m]1 | Somehow, asking for permission to be in Indiana sounded better in court as "My elderly mother lives there, I have no family in Illinois, and I will stay living here and follow your laws." than "Mom's dropping off her car here and I need to drop her back off in Indiana so I can stop paying the car loan and drive around with my ex's car, who is the reason why I'm here, to make him squirm, while I'm not making the | May 21 02:21 |
| baronhk[m]1 | payments.". | May 21 02:21 |
| baronhk[m]1 | MinceR: It's not what you say. It's how you say it. | May 21 02:22 |
| baronhk[m]1 | And in all things, it's the thought that counts. | May 21 02:22 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I didn't plug my phone into the car's navigation system because I was worried that it might pass it along to the finance company where the car was at by retrieving GPS coordinates from the phone through Android Auto. | May 21 02:24 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 02:24 |
| MinceR | the car doesn't have a GPS receiver of its own? | May 21 02:25 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I don't think so. They were calling me every day for almost 5 months asking where it was at. | May 21 02:25 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I told them I'd tell them when I got around to doing so. | May 21 02:25 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Eventually, I drove it down to Joliet and stripped the plates off and canceled the insurance and abandoned it on a dealer lot. Told them they could pick it up there. | May 21 02:26 |
| baronhk[m]1 | So they charged John for late payments, late payment fees, garaging at the dealership, new plates, a new insurance policy, and he had to take a day off work and ride Metra down to Joliet. | May 21 02:27 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Which is about 4.5 hours from Fox Lake changing commuter trains once. | May 21 02:27 |
| MinceR | in my car, buying the satellite navigation option is equivalent to getting an SD card with the maps on it | May 21 02:27 |
| MinceR | the car already has everything else necessary for it | May 21 02:28 |
| baronhk[m]1 | My car now has dials and buttons on it. | May 21 02:28 |
| baronhk[m]1 | And a tape player. | May 21 02:28 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The mechanic said he'd buy it from me. I said I didn't want something new. | May 21 02:29 |
| baronhk[m]1 | They always figure out how to make new things worse than an old thing with a lot of miles. | May 21 02:29 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | soon it will be the old skool stuff left on freenode | May 21 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | but not ubuntu | May 21 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | and eveyhting els else where :D | May 21 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | techrights will become the most popular channel on freenode ! | May 21 02:33 |
| kingoffrance | lol yeah im kind of wondering if thats how it will play out | May 21 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | except i have just been trying to get onto the new network and guess what | May 21 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | it's not been working | May 21 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | nice website for it though :) | May 21 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | kingoffrance: yep when it goes that way i will make a system d lovers channel decidated to mincer on freenode too :D | May 21 02:35 |
| sebsebseb | anad one for Apple as well again dedicated to MinceR | May 21 02:35 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Ubuntu is already a Matrix channel, mostly. | May 21 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | ubuntu is going to move to the other network it seems | May 21 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | going by what i have seen | May 21 02:36 |
| techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200521.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200521.txt Read the log now... | May 21 02:37 |
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| MinceR | i'm surprised that ubuntu hasn't moved to dicksword yet | May 21 02:38 |
| MinceR | they seemed to love every shiny piece of shit that was hyped up ever since they existed | May 21 02:39 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: Ubuntu iss going strong | May 21 02:39 |
| sebsebseb | one of the most popular desktop distros still | May 21 02:39 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Maybe Microsoft fixed Chuckdisk /f so it doesn't destroy SSDs. | May 21 02:39 |
| sebsebseb | and reasonably popular for servers and that too | May 21 02:39 |
| sebsebseb | baronhk[m]1: uhmm soon you can do fsck in the windows terminal using the linux tools i expect :d | May 21 02:40 |
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| sebsebseb | baronhk[m]1: in fact you may be able to do that alrady | May 21 02:40 |
| sebsebseb | in windows 10 | May 21 02:40 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: yeah, and billions of flies like to eat shit | May 21 02:40 |
| sebsebseb | and eating fies is apparnaty going to be good when lack of meat and things i read the other week | May 21 02:41 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: but again, windows, which is idolized by systemd people, is more popular than ubuntu | May 21 02:41 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: uh windows dones't have system d ? | May 21 02:42 |
| sebsebseb | :D | May 21 02:42 |
| sebsebseb | or pulse audio | May 21 02:42 |
| sebsebseb | or not yet | May 21 02:42 |
| sebsebseb | ha | May 21 02:42 |
| techrights-bot | *** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-05-20.txt | May 21 02:42 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Bill Gates suggested eating bugs to deal with rampant poverty in formerly first world countries. | May 21 02:42 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Very philanthropic of him. | May 21 02:42 |
| XRevan86 | rasengan: What was that about approinting new admins bypassing the staff though? I quoted a mention of that earlier. | May 21 02:42 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: it does, if you use WSL2 | May 21 02:43 |
| MinceR | then again, you can also run ubuntu on WSL2 | May 21 02:43 |
| MinceR | and have a whole pile of crapware crawling on top of each other | May 21 02:43 |
| sebsebseb | and KDE GNOME etc or soon | May 21 02:43 |
| MinceR | you mean only gnome | May 21 02:43 |
| MinceR | since everything else is heresy | May 21 02:43 |
| sebsebseb | Mincer OS based on ubuntu via WSL 2 yep that's coming soon | May 21 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | and it has system d nad pulse audio as part of it | May 21 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: it even has a brown colour scheme all over the place :D | May 21 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | a bit like the old ubuntu | May 21 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | but that was nice | May 21 02:44 |
| MinceR | weird | May 21 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | I am talking about uhmm a even more brown theme | May 21 02:44 |
| MinceR | i thought they replaced that long ago | May 21 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | they did | May 21 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | with some purple aburgine thing | May 21 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | with some oragne in it too since a community | May 21 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | company purple aburgine, community orange | May 21 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | but in MinceR OS things look old skool, well even worse than old skool | May 21 02:45 |
| MinceR | there's no MinceR OS yet | May 21 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | there is it's based on ubuntu | May 21 02:46 |
| MinceR | and it won't be called that anyway | May 21 02:46 |
| MinceR | and it probably won't have Linux in it either, let alone systemd or gnome | May 21 02:46 |
| sebsebseb | its a bit ike hannah montanta os of 2009, excpt hannah montana os was actsaull good for what it was :) | May 21 02:46 |
| sebsebseb | oh right the windows kenrel instead i see or the old one, since windows will have gone linux by then :D | May 21 02:46 |
| sebsebseb | they will open source the old kenrel for fun | May 21 02:47 |
| sebsebseb | React OS will use it | May 21 02:47 |
| sebsebseb | they will blame bugs on MinceR | May 21 02:47 |
| sebsebseb | they Microsoft, but also React OS, and also the other creaters of mincer os | May 21 02:47 |
| MinceR | no, if you want windows, you'd better get windows | May 21 02:48 |
| sebsebseb | then when people want a theme change, they can get one that will make it look like Mac OS X | May 21 02:48 |
| MinceR | what's the point of making derivatives of an OS in a cult where "fragmentation" is evil and so is choice? | May 21 02:49 |
| sebsebseb | let me ask your co founder of MinceR OS who has asked to stay anoymous | May 21 02:50 |
| sebsebseb | he says for fun and a laiugh, espeically with MinceR OS and even more so that it's based on ubuntu | May 21 02:50 |
| sebsebseb | and has system d and pulse audio in it and even that optional mac os x thems, basically various things you hate | May 21 02:50 |
| MinceR | gnome doesn't ship with OSuX theme yet? | May 21 02:50 |
| sebsebseb | nope but been able to make it look like a mac for years | May 21 02:51 |
| XRevan86 | It's disturbing that Andrew's version of events omits that admin bit altogether. | May 21 02:51 |
| MinceR | what's so difficult to do about it? | May 21 02:51 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: for that one it's do you trust what rasengan says, or the former freenode staff, and why | May 21 02:52 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: how can i trust any of them? as far as i can tell, there's no way to verify them independently | May 21 02:52 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: I have no reason to trust or not trust either party. They even both be more or less right, different pespectives paint different pictures. | May 21 02:53 |
| sebsebseb | yep that's why going back to the other subject, they have the mac os x hteme by default in MinceR OS, to paint a differnet picture as well :) | May 21 02:54 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Just like in North Korea. | May 21 02:54 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 02:54 |
| MinceR | they didn't quite get it right in Red Star OS | May 21 02:54 |
| *sebsebseb loves MinceR really :D :) ha ha | May 21 02:55 | |
| sebsebseb | they need to sort out their serers for libera oterwise there isn't much of a network | May 21 02:55 |
| sebsebseb | i treid to get on a few times earlier and nope | May 21 02:55 |
| sebsebseb | or i got on but not for long or kind of on even eventually | May 21 02:55 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | May 21 02:57 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: IBM | May 21 02:57 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Microsoft | May 21 02:58 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Canonical | May 21 02:58 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Oraacle | May 21 02:58 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: you've failed, you're out | May 21 02:58 |
| sebsebseb | I can think of more tech comapnies if that's what you mean | May 21 02:58 |
| MinceR | those are not tech companies | May 21 02:59 |
| sebsebseb | Google, Twiteter, Facebok | May 21 02:59 |
| sebsebseb | Zoom | May 21 02:59 |
| MinceR | 3 misspellings already | May 21 02:59 |
| sebsebseb | LG, Sony, Huwaaii, | May 21 02:59 |
| sebsebseb | Twitter is a typo | May 21 02:59 |
| *sebsebseb rasengan will make MinceR the new God of freenode but its not time yet, whatch out XRevan86 when that happens :d :) | May 21 03:00 | |
| sebsebseb | not sleeping yet, but want to do some other things tonight etc, so may as well leave for now actsaully | May 21 03:02 |
| sebsebseb | i only really cme on earlier since the annoucement i had seen anyway | May 21 03:02 |
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| techrights-bot | "I am hopeful for this to be an end to gender and sexual orientation based harassment on the network while promotice a productive working environment for the open-source development" https://freespeech.firedragonstudios.com/@kreyren/106271447326462749 | May 21 06:20 |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151415 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 06:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 21 06:21 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #BrianCallahan #bsd ☞ The #GNU D Compiler on #OpenBSD /arm64 https://briancallahan.net/blog/20210520.html | May 21 06:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-briancallahan.net | Brian Robert Callahan | May 21 06:24 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Virtualization #OpenHardware ☞ Pinebook Pro first impressions https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2021/05/20/pinebook-pro-first-impressions/ | May 21 06:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-virtuallyfun.com | Pinebook Pro first impressions | Fun with virtualization | May 21 06:24 | |
| techrights-bot | #KDE Plasma 5.22 Beta Run Through http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151140#comment-29712 #gnu #linux | May 21 06:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.22 Beta Released. Download and Test Now. | Tux Machines | May 21 06:29 | |
| techrights-bot | #PipeWire 0.3.28 Released With More PulseAudio Modules Implemented • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151416 #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #ibm | May 21 06:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PipeWire 0.3.28 Released With More PulseAudio Modules Implemented | Tux Machines | May 21 06:31 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #NedUtzig #Programming ☞ A Teenager's Guide to Avoiding Actual Work https://madned.substack.com/p/a-teenagers-guide-to-avoiding-actual | May 21 06:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-madned.substack.com | A Teenager's Guide to Avoiding Actual Work - The Mad Ned Memo | May 21 06:35 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TechExec #freesw ☞ Striking a balance with ‘open’ at Snowflake https://techexec.com.au/?p=3672 | May 21 06:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techexec.com.au | Striking a balance with ‘open’ at Snowflake | Tech Exec | May 21 06:36 | |
| techrights-bot | Going to release the next part of the #epo series shortly. Deals with #surveillance against #techrights ... by the EPO "Mafia" (what EPO staff calls the EPO!0 | May 21 06:38 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/15-IU-Surveillance.jpg | May 21 06:41 |
| schestowitz__ | Using IRC to expose corruption | May 21 06:41 |
| techrights-bot | The EPO’s War on #Justice and Assault on the #Law — Part 15: The EBA Letter of 8 December 2014 http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/eba-letter/ #epo #corruption #surveillance | May 21 07:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 15: The EBA Letter of 8 December 2014 | Techrights | May 21 07:05 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #Apple Accuses Microsoft of Using Epic in Legal Attack https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-20/apple-accuses-microsoft-of-using-epic-as-proxy-in-legal-attack | May 21 07:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | May 21 07:24 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #LarsWirzenius #Authenticity ☞ SSH CA for host keys https://liw.fi/sshca/ | May 21 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liw.fi | SSH CA for host keys | May 21 07:25 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #VentureBeat #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ #EU lawmaker calls for stronger privacy rights as part of new tech rules https://venturebeat.com/2021/05/19/2691159/ | May 21 07:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU lawmaker calls for stronger privacy rights as part of new tech rules | VentureBeat | May 21 07:37 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #NewYorkTimes #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ #Censorship , #Surveillance and Profits: A Hard Bargain for Apple in #China https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-censorship-data.html | May 21 07:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Inside Apple’s Compromises in China: A Times Investigation - The New York Times | May 21 07:37 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #IshSookun #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ Proof-of-concept proxy shows user account passwords and private photos can be decrypted https://sysadmin-journal.com/proof-of-concept-proxy-shows-user-account-passwords-and-private-photos-can-be-decrypted/ | May 21 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sysadmin-journal.com | Proof-of-concept proxy shows user account passwords and private photos can be decrypted | May 21 07:43 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ Senators roll out bipartisan data privacy bill https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/20/22444515/amy-klobuchar-data-privacy-protection-facebook-state-laws | May 21 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Senators roll out bipartisan data privacy bill - The Verge | May 21 07:43 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CNBC #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ #Amazon partners with Tile to take on Apple AirTags https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/07/amazon-partners-with-tile-to-take-on-apple-airtags.html | May 21 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Amazon partners with Tile to take on Apple AirTags | May 21 07:44 | |
| techrights-bot | Rational #Patent Office Gone Irrational http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/epo-gone-irrational/ #epo #europe #epc #injustice | May 21 07:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Rational Patent Office Gone Irrational | Techrights | May 21 07:49 | |
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| techrights-bot | 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, May 20, 2021 • ፕቿርዘዪጎኗዘፕነ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/irc-log-200521/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/21/irc-log-200521/ | May 21 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, May 20, 2021 | Techrights | May 21 08:47 | |
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| opal | >But it seems like pretty much the whole catastrophe right now boils down to that. In the same way that “cancel RMS” | May 21 09:18 |
| opal | these really arent analogous | May 21 09:18 |
| schestowitz__ | they are not | May 21 09:35 |
| opal | also hi schestowitz__ | May 21 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | but there are some points along the way that are similar, like the groupthink | May 21 09:36 |
| opal | you get around :D | May 21 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | opal: | May 21 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | hi | May 21 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | do you want to read a draft of my next post on this? | May 21 09:36 |
| opal | sure | May 21 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | just finished typing, one sec | May 21 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | it expands on the RMS thing | May 21 09:36 |
| opal | i dont agree with everything that either side is doing, but the general sentiment that freenode has endured a hostile takeover is still there | May 21 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | it started with dispute, citing "FSF" | May 21 09:37 |
| schestowitz__ | fearing hostile takeover | May 21 09:37 |
| opal | i think that part is hard to argue | May 21 09:37 |
| opal | lee bribed several people and groups, including alpine linux | May 21 09:37 |
| schestowitz__ | consensus isn't always truth | May 21 09:37 |
| schestowitz__ | he did not | May 21 09:37 |
| opal | you heard something different from alpine? | May 21 09:37 |
| schestowitz__ | someone who works for his brother, separate company, offered things | May 21 09:37 |
| schestowitz__ | but it was turned down | May 21 09:37 |
| opal | oh | May 21 09:37 |
| opal | so not lee | May 21 09:38 |
| schestowitz__ | mostly op privs | May 21 09:38 |
| schestowitz__ | not money | May 21 09:38 |
| opal | lee actually offered me a staff position here and i intend to take it and at least try to place some order back into freenode | May 21 09:38 |
| schestowitz__ | my draft is ready | May 21 09:39 |
| opal | ive been here for a decade so i know how freenode operates | May 21 09:39 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/freenode-facts/ | May 21 09:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Freenode Users Exodus as Self-Fulfilling Prophecy Boosted by Those Looking to Gain | Techrights | May 21 09:39 | |
| schestowitz__ | have a quick look pls | May 21 09:39 |
| opal | i'll read | May 21 09:39 |
| schestowitz__ | there will be typos, report if you see them | May 21 09:39 |
| schestowitz__ | opal: we are 'selfish', we want stability | May 21 09:39 |
| opal | (btw do you object to using https on the site) | May 21 09:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Free software projects don't want to deal with abuse of people like christel | May 21 09:39 |
| schestowitz__ | opal: no, no objection, technical reasons | May 21 09:40 |
| schestowitz__ | gemini uses tls | May 21 09:40 |
| schestowitz__ | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/21/freenode-facts/ | May 21 09:40 |
| opal | yeah and i'd be willing to work toward stability on here | May 21 09:40 |
| opal | not a typo but might be worded better: | May 21 09:42 |
| opal | For those who claim that Freenode’s violates privacy | May 21 09:42 |
| opal | freenode's what | May 21 09:42 |
| schestowitz__ | ah, yes, typo | May 21 09:42 |
| opal | ah | May 21 09:43 |
| opal | so i was wrong, it was a typo :D | May 21 09:43 |
| opal | > PIA snooping ‘evidence’ was allegedly fabricated | May 21 09:43 |
| opal | that's interesting but i don't think i came across that | May 21 09:43 |
| opal | maybe i did but years ago | May 21 09:43 |
| opal | in any case i didnt pay it much mind | May 21 09:43 |
| opal | i believe the snoonet change of ownership logs were legit though | May 21 09:43 |
| opal | going through the pdf as well | May 21 09:46 |
| trttl | >They’ve repeatedly proven, even in court, that they don’t log. | May 21 09:52 |
| trttl | this is inaccurate | May 21 09:52 |
| trttl | iirc an employee or someone affiliated with pia at the time said something in court (as a witness? not sure) that to the best of their knowledge pia doesn't log | May 21 09:55 |
| opal | if logs havent (so far) been divulged then i guess thats all we can go by | May 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | can you link it? | May 21 09:56 |
| trttl | i understand but the wording is not accurate in my opinion | May 21 09:56 |
| opal | absence of evidence isnt evidence of absence, etc | May 21 09:56 |
| schestowitz__ | I did not read about the incident you refer to | May 21 09:56 |
| opal | i just dont like commercial vpns :p | May 21 09:56 |
| schestowitz__ | me neither | May 21 09:56 |
| trttl | i can't. there was a discussion about this on the pia forums but those got nuked | May 21 09:56 |
| schestowitz__ | but PIA is afaik one of the few legit ones | May 21 09:57 |
| schestowitz__ | I need some form of evidence | May 21 09:57 |
| schestowitz__ | rasengan might be able to comment | May 21 09:57 |
| techrights-bot | The Freenode Users Exodus as Self-Fulfilling Prophecy Boosted by Those Looking to Gain • ፕቿርዘዪጎኗዘፕነ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/freenode-facts/ •●• #Techrights #IRC #freenode #racism | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/21/freenode-facts/ | May 21 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Freenode Users Exodus as Self-Fulfilling Prophecy Boosted by Those Looking to Gain | Techrights | May 21 09:59 | |
| trttl | i think looking into that a bit deeper would worth it because.. there used to be a different story circling around originating from a (supposedly?) ex-employee which contradicts the no-log "proof" | May 21 10:02 |
| trttl | but i don't know the details and never cared enough to investigate it because it didn't concern me. i'm not and never been their customer | May 21 10:04 |
| techrights-bot | “The Mob Rushes in Where Individuals Fear to Tread.” ― B.F. Skinner, Walden Two • ፕቿርዘዪጎኗዘፕነ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/think-about-facts/ •●• #Techrights #freenode #irc | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/21/think-about-facts/ | May 21 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | “The Mob Rushes in Where Individuals Fear to Tread.” ― B.F. Skinner, Walden Two | Techrights | May 21 10:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | trttl: I'm all ears | May 21 10:15 |
| schestowitz__ | the burden of proof is on the "accuser" :-) | May 21 10:16 |
| schestowitz__ | I've seen no evidence, not even indireact | May 21 10:16 |
| schestowitz__ | anything more than 'gossip' would be more than indirect | May 21 10:16 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe in some cases config errors led to unintended logging | May 21 10:16 |
| schestowitz__ | but afaik it's not their policy | May 21 10:16 |
| schestowitz__ | their business would collapse if that was to happen and word came out | May 21 10:17 |
| techrights-bot | Too much #microsoft #windows #mono and #dotnet in Gemini mailing lists lately. Also, #deletegithub (we don't want Gemini to go that way; it would put geeks off). | May 21 10:24 |
| trttl | i'm not accusing anyone with anything and i pretty much implied i don't know whether there's more to this than just unfounded gossip or not | May 21 10:25 |
| trttl | but something you might want to check if you mention it in an article | May 21 10:25 |
| trttl | >[a vpn] business would collapse if that was to happen and word came out - if this was true then nordvpn wouldn't exist | May 21 10:27 |
| schestowitz__ | "there are some Freenode-related links in the Politics section, they might be removed" | May 21 10:29 |
| schestowitz__ | my friend considers this whole thing "politics" | May 21 10:29 |
| schestowitz__ | trttl: is it profitable though? | May 21 10:30 |
| schestowitz__ | some vpns merely INCREASE the spying, adding to the ISP's | May 21 10:30 |
| schestowitz__ | like the one Facebook was pushing | May 21 10:30 |
| techrights-bot | "i guess they don't get paid to cancel gates" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-190521.html#tMay%2019%2023:42:25 | May 21 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 | May 21 10:31 | |
| trttl | they have a vpn service now? | May 21 10:34 |
| schestowitz__ | let me find it... | May 21 10:37 |
| schestowitz__ | https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/29/facebook-project-atlas/ | May 21 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook pays teens to install VPN that spies on them – TechCrunch | May 21 10:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/21/facebook-removes-onavo/ | May 21 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook will shut down its spyware VPN app Onavo – TechCrunch | May 21 10:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.hotspotshield.com/blog/facebook-privacy-spying-protect/ | May 21 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hotspotshield.com | Here’s how Facebook is spying on you, and what you can do to stop it | Hotspot Shield VPN | May 21 10:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.forbes.com/sites/leemathews/2019/02/22/facebook-to-shut-down-vpn-app-that-let-it-spy-on-users/ | May 21 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Facebook To Shut Down VPN App That Let It Spy On Users | May 21 10:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.csoonline.com/article/3337456/facebook-secretly-paid-users-20-a-month-to-use-vpn-spying-app.html | May 21 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csoonline.com | Facebook secretly paid users $20 a month to use VPN spying app | CSO Online | May 21 10:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-stop-facebook-from-spying-on-your-internet-activity | May 21 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Stop Facebook From Spying on Your Internet Activity | PCMag | May 21 10:39 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/263867-facebooks-new-onavo-protect-vpn-spyware-application | May 21 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook's New 'Onavo Protect' VPN is a Spyware App - ExtremeTech | May 21 10:39 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/08/23/apple-finally-takes-down-facebooks-vpn-spying-app.aspx | May 21 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Finally Takes Down Facebook's VPN Spying App | The Motley Fool | May 21 10:39 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.howtogeek.com/342731/dont-use-facebooks-onavo-vpn-its-designed-to-spy-on-you/ | May 21 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | Don’t Use Facebook’s Onavo VPN: It’s Designed to Spy On You | May 21 10:39 | |
| trttl | kek | May 21 10:42 |
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| techrights-bot | #ibm #exodus "But to have as high attrition rates as we did in the past year? In the middle of a #pandemic that all but destroyed the job market? Now that's telling." #redhat https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aXWweHP | May 21 11:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The best indicator of IBM's state - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 21 11:53 | |
| techrights-bot | Emulate the #Sinclair ZX81 home computer with #GNU #Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151419 #TuxMachines | May 21 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emulate the Sinclair ZX81 home computer with Linux | Tux Machines | May 21 11:56 | |
| techrights-bot | 2-key mechanical #USB keypad runs #QMK firmware (Crowdfunding) • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151418 #TuxMachines | May 21 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2-key mechanical USB keypad runs QMK firmware (Crowdfunding) | Tux Machines | May 21 11:56 | |
| techrights-bot | Why I Switched from #Ubuntu to Manjaro, Personal Story • 𝕿𝖚𝖝𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/15141 #linux #TuxMachines | May 21 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The KDE 3.5 Control Center - Part 2 - Desktop | Tux Machines | May 21 11:57 | |
| techrights-bot | #IPFire 2.25 - Core Update 157 available for testing • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151420 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.25 - Core Update 157 available for testing | Tux Machines | May 21 11:58 | |
| techrights-bot | Today in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151421 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | May 21 11:58 | |
| techrights-bot | 10 Best #Webmin Alternative tools for #Ubuntu or Linux Servers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151422 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Best Webmin Alternative tools for Ubuntu or Linux Servers | Tux Machines | May 21 11:59 | |
| techrights-bot | #Entroware Unveils New Proteus Linux Laptop Powered by Ubuntu 20.04 LTS • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151425 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Entroware Unveils New Proteus Linux Laptop Powered by Ubuntu 20.04 LTS | Tux Machines | May 21 12:00 | |
| techrights-bot | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151424 #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 21 12:00 | |
| techrights-bot | #Garuda Desktops Put a New Spin on Linux Looks • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151423 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Garuda Desktops Put a New Spin on Linux Looks | Tux Machines | May 21 12:00 | |
| techrights-bot | The illegal #surveillance by Europe’s second-largest institution was a culmination of dictatorial despotism by the institution entrusted to grant patents correctly while respecting the independence of judges • ፕቿርዘዪጎኗዘፕነ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/eba-letter/ •●• #Techrights #epo #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/21/eba-letter/ | May 21 12:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 15: The EBA Letter of 8 December 2014 | Techrights | May 21 12:10 | |
| techrights-bot | How the #EPO turned or morphed from patent office into ‘printing press’ for grifting politicians like #BenoîtBattistelli and #AntónioCampinos • ፕቿርዘዪጎኗዘፕነ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/epo-gone-irrational/ •●• #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/21/epo-gone-irrational/ | May 21 12:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Rational Patent Office Gone Irrational | Techrights | May 21 12:11 | |
| techrights-bot | Take a moment to study what actually begets the current split; the grievances don’t merit a fragmentation, which the communities around #Freesoftware aren’t likely to benefit from • ፕቿርዘዪጎኗዘፕነ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/freenode-facts/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/21/freenode-facts/ | May 21 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Freenode Users Exodus as Self-Fulfilling Prophecy Boosted by Those Looking to Gain | Techrights | May 21 12:12 | |
| techrights-bot | People may fear defending #Freenode (it’s an unpopular position at the moment), but facts must matter, not caricatures of people with class stigma and racial stereotypes • ፕቿርዘዪጎኗዘፕነ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/think-about-facts/ •●• #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/21/think-about-facts/ | May 21 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | “The Mob Rushes in Where Individuals Fear to Tread.” ― B.F. Skinner, Walden Two | Techrights | May 21 12:12 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #au ☞ When Aussies Face a Blocked Pirate Site, 59% Simply Give Up & Don't Try Legal Options https://torrentfreak.com/when-aussies-face-a-blocked-pirate-site-59-simply-give-up-dont-try-legal-options-210520/ | May 21 14:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When Aussies Face a Blocked Pirate Site, 59% Simply Give Up & Don't Try Legal Options * TorrentFreak | May 21 14:13 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights # ☞ Member of Busted Scene Piracy Group SPARKS Avoids Prison Sentence https://torrentfreak.com/member-of-busted-scene-piracy-group-sparks-avoids-prison-sentence-210520/ | May 21 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Member of Busted Scene Piracy Group SPARKS Avoids Prison Sentence * TorrentFreak | May 21 14:13 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Defense Department Is Buying Domestic #Internet Metadata From Data Brokers https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210513/16422746798/defense-department-is-buying-domestic-internet-metadata-data-brokers.shtml | May 21 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Defense Department Is Buying Domestic Internet Metadata From Data Brokers | Techdirt | May 21 14:13 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TheNation #billgates #gatesfoundation #corruption ☞ The Fall of the House of Gates? https://www.thenation.com/article/society/gates-me-too-divorce/ | May 21 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | The Fall of the House of Gates? | The Nation | May 21 14:16 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ Fighting Disciplinary Technologies https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/05/fighting-disciplinary-technologies "monitoring performance, confirming compliance...." | May 21 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Fighting Disciplinary Technologies | Electronic Frontier Foundation | May 21 14:17 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #PIA #GDPR ☞ Better than the EU's GDPR? China's new #privacy law includes a rule for handling personal information after death https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/better-than-the-eus-gdpr-chinas-new-privacy-law-includes-a-rule-for-handling-personal-information-after-death/ | May 21 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | Better than the EU's GDPR? China's new privacy law includes a rule for handling personal information after death | May 21 14:17 | |
| techrights-bot | iophk: without using the same words, he's as vehement about Software Freedom as RMS https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/botnet:e | May 21 14:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Big Tech Botnets - The Fearsome New Technology | May 21 14:21 | |
| *baronhk[m]1 < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/NQPTbmWzYWZMVbFIjhAjQXsx/message.txt > | May 21 14:33 | |
| techrights-bot | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151428 #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 21 14:35 | |
| techrights-bot | #KDE ’s Author Avatars and Not Phoning Home • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151427 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE's Author Avatars and Not Phoning Home | Tux Machines | May 21 14:35 | |
| techrights-bot | #Entroware Proteus is a Linux Laptop for Getting Things Done • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151426 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Entroware Proteus is a Linux Laptop for Getting Things Done | Tux Machines | May 21 14:35 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | The truth is that Apple can't guarantee that iOS is free of malware because they couldn't pay people who understand how to read code to sit there and review every app submission, line by line. There's not enough money. There's not even enough people in the world. | May 21 14:35 |
| baronhk[m]1 | And it's interesting that they never claimed iOS was malware-free in their testimony, only that it was less of a problem due to the lockdown. | May 21 14:36 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Which means that they felt they would perjure themselves in court and someone would expose them, had they dared to swear by the handshake promise made to iPhone users. | May 21 14:37 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Perjury and the articles that would follow would have been far worse for them than admitting that malware is a problem on the Mac, which they aren't even focused on anymore anyway. | May 21 14:38 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It's not difficult to see where macOS is heading. In ten years, it probably won't exist. Apple will move people over to iOS on an iPad and say dock a keyboard and here's XCode for development. | May 21 14:39 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Because those processors will be powerful enough then. | May 21 14:39 |
| techrights-bot | #ChromeOS support for Linux apps will exit beta in a few weeks http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151386#comment-29713 #gnu #linux | May 21 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chrome OS’s Linux app support is leaving beta | Tux Machines | May 21 14:39 | |
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| techrights-bot | Leaky and Freaky Patent Office • ፕቿርዘዪጎኗዘፕነ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/european-patent-office-feaks-out/ •●• #Techrights #swpats #patents #europe #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/21/european-patent-office-feaks-out/ | May 21 14:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leaky and Freaky Patent Office | Techrights | May 21 14:45 | |
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| baronhk[m]1 | schestowitz__: https://wgntv.com/news/child-marriage-is-currently-legal-in-46-states/ | May 21 14:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Child marriage is currently legal in 46 states | WGN-TV | May 21 14:54 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Here's my reply: | May 21 14:54 |
| *baronhk[m]1 < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/niMApjXpnnlXACwiQXrvrizW/message.txt > | May 21 14:54 | |
| schestowitz__ | "You mean Jeff Epstein's friend, Bill Gates. THE Bill Gates that is now exposed a a sex predator who went around trawling Microsoft for vulnerable women while he had been married for years? The Bill Gates that said he taught his daughter about sex at 7?" | May 21 14:55 |
| schestowitz__ | his wife said that | May 21 14:55 |
| schestowitz__ | not bill | May 21 14:55 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The whole thing is a lot, A LOT, creepier than a 17 year old marrying a 21 year old. | May 21 14:57 |
| baronhk[m]1 | They try to deflect from the Epstein connection now by complaining about "child marriage laws". | May 21 14:57 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Which, again, in no state is under 16 and they all have multiple safeguards to make sure it's not some guy in a free candy van. | May 21 14:58 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I would argue that child molesters are not generally going to try to marry a 16=17 year old for sex. | May 21 14:59 |
| baronhk[m]1 | By that age, they've lost interest. The whole child predator thing revolves around a sick attraction to people who do not have adult physical features so why would they marry a 17 year old? | May 21 14:59 |
| schestowitz__ | so gates foundation now lobbies on child marriage? | May 21 15:00 |
| schestowitz__ | I did not open the link btw | May 21 15:00 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Yeah, apparently. | May 21 15:00 |
| techrights-bot | ...so #gatesfoundation now lobbies on child marriage. Utterly disgusting. It this the strategy of #billgates now? Legalising his mate Epstein? Posthumously. | May 21 15:01 |
| schestowitz__ | "Our European visitors are important to us." | May 21 15:01 |
| schestowitz__ | I cannot access the article | May 21 15:01 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Gates is apparently "on the side of the children". (Sure.) | May 21 15:02 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The study bemoans that out of over 300,000 marriages to people 16-18 in the US in the last 20 years or so, 60,000 would have been sex crimes in the jurisdiction had they occurred outside of marriage. | May 21 15:02 |
| techrights-bot | Response to article "Child marriage is currently legal in 46 states" (linked to #gatesfoundation money) https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/niMApjXpnnlXACwiQXrvrizW/message.txt #billgates | May 21 15:03 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Well, that's an awful lot like saying gee, if that $5,000 I walked out of the bank with had been at gunpoint instead of a deposit slip drawn on my account, it would have been bank robbery! | May 21 15:03 |
| techrights-bot | #TuxedoInfinity Book Pro 14 Linux laptop launched with 3K LTPS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151387#comment-29715 #gnu #linux | May 21 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TUXEDO’s Latest Linux Laptop is All About the Screen | Tux Machines | May 21 15:03 | |
| schestowitz__ | baronhk[m]1: how will that improve things for him? | May 21 15:04 |
| schestowitz__ | people online would leap at this | May 21 15:04 |
| schestowitz__ | and use that as more proof that he supports sickness | May 21 15:04 |
| schestowitz__ | well, other than covid | May 21 15:04 |
| schestowitz__ | "love child" | May 21 15:04 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway | May 21 15:04 |
| schestowitz__ | back on topic... | May 21 15:04 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Deflect. Make it look like states sanction "sickness" when there's no evidence of this. | May 21 15:04 |
| baronhk[m]1 | His ties to Epstein don't look so bad if the states allow "child marriage". | May 21 15:05 |
| schestowitz__ | this will eb the downhall of this "foundation" | May 21 15:06 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Sex within marriage is viewed differently by the community than sex outside of marriage, which is why it wouldn't be a crime if you are married to that 16 year old. I also would add, again, that it requires parental approval and a judge agreeing to it. | May 21 15:06 |
| schestowitz__ | as it would embolden people who accuse him of doing things to underage girls/boys | May 21 15:06 |
| baronhk[m]1 | You don't just slip this one past everybody. | May 21 15:06 |
| schestowitz__ | the arrest in his home notwithstanding | May 21 15:06 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway, he's finished | May 21 15:06 |
| schestowitz__ | I hope | May 21 15:06 |
| schestowitz__ | but still no "remove Gates" petition | May 21 15:06 |
| schestowitz__ | mjg59 must still be working on the wording.... | May 21 15:07 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 15:07 |
| MinceR | maybe he's just discussing the price | May 21 15:07 |
| baronhk[m]1 | He's too busy playing with his doorbell. | May 21 15:07 |
| MinceR | lol | May 21 15:07 |
| schestowitz__ | lol | May 21 15:09 |
| MinceR | https://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/You-Are-Here.jpg | May 21 15:09 |
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| techrights-bot | Europe’s second-largest institution freaks out, seeing that its #corruption is visible for all to see; in the process it resorts to intensive spying on bloggers and even banning of blogs Leaky and Freaky Patent Office • ፕቿርዘዪጎኗዘፕነ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/european-patent-office-feaks-out/ •●• #Techrights #EPO #censorship #slapp | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ | May 21 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leaky and Freaky Patent Office | Techrights | May 21 15:17 | |
| techrights-bot | "Attrition is really bad... the VP of C&CS Automation (Al Martin) is tracking 'regretted attrition'... who would have thought #IBM would come to that point!!!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aXWweHP#replies | May 21 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The best indicator of IBM's state - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 21 15:18 | |
| techrights-bot | "It is complete BS. Reason is Ibm spends a fortune on #LinkedIn advertisement." #ibm #microsoft #spam https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aX7i8Z8#replies | May 21 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Top Companies 2021: The 50 best workplaces to grow your career in the U.S. - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 21 15:19 | |
| techrights-bot | I know, I am here, therefore I hear, therefore I am. https://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/You-Are-Here.jpg | May 21 15:21 |
| psydroid | Baron's story sounds like mine, my mom had 3 children before the age of 21 and my parents are less than 5 years apart | May 21 15:23 |
| baronhk[m]1 | We're well into an era where "childhood" is being bumped up into your 20s. | May 21 15:25 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I think it's a function of people living longer. | May 21 15:25 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Also, many people have an easier life than ever before (which is why they live longer). | May 21 15:26 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Where Mandy is from, people die in their 50s all the time and it's just accepted that this is what happens. | May 21 15:27 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It's really depressing to listen to him sometimes because I start talking about what about when we're in our 60s or 70s and he starts saying I'm not going to live that long. I'll be with my mom and dad soon. | May 21 15:27 |
| baronhk[m]1 | That's what kind of a mess the Catholics make when they cause a country to toss the condoms aside and ban abortion. | May 21 15:28 |
| baronhk[m]1 | You have so many kids that you can't care for any of them like you should. | May 21 15:28 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Resources go a lot further in taking care of 2 of them well than they do when you spread it over 5 or 6. | May 21 15:29 |
| baronhk[m]1 | My dad's parents had five kids. Didn't take care of any of them properly. | May 21 15:29 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Half the time there wasn't enough food to go around to get a boloney sandwich. | May 21 15:29 |
| schestowitz__ | x https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/planning/T45cf6d9d100202e9/lets-use-gpl-libraries-in-thunderbird | May 21 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thunderbird.topicbox.com | Topicbox | May 21 15:30 | |
| schestowitz__ | # blocked by javascript | May 21 15:30 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Dad had to go get a job at 13 so he could feed himself. That's also when he started reading books as kind of an escape. | May 21 15:30 |
| baronhk[m]1 | They had child labor laws back then, but the guy at the TV repair shop just paid him cash. | May 21 15:30 |
| schestowitz__ | x https://www.thenation.com/article/society/gates-me-too-divorce/ | May 21 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | The Fall of the House of Gates? | The Nation | May 21 15:31 | |
| schestowitz__ | # gates was always a scumbag. 'hero' is a false, artificially created myth, | May 21 15:31 |
| schestowitz__ | # bought and paid for with crooked money. | May 21 15:31 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The disgusting thing about the "tech" economy is that it prevents people from being employed and caring for themselves. | May 21 15:31 |
| baronhk[m]1 | There's a bigger jobs shortage than ever and they're not coming back. | May 21 15:31 |
| MinceR | maybe if mainstream media calls attention to what a scumbag gates is, the number of his worshippers will finally decrease | May 21 15:31 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Wealth concentrates at the top, with people like Gates and Bezos and Tim Cook. | May 21 15:32 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: there's no money in that | May 21 15:32 |
| baronhk[m]1 | <MinceR "maybe if mainstream media calls "> Even in the middle of the Gates scandals, WGN quotes his "foundation". | May 21 15:32 |
| baronhk[m]1 | They're clearly focused on helping him make this blow over so he can get back to his eugenics and unethical medical experiments and death by patents. "Charity work." | May 21 15:33 |
| MinceR | schestowitz__: there's always money in scandals and the attention paid to them | May 21 15:33 |
| MinceR | just not as much as in bribes | May 21 15:33 |
| techrights-bot | "You can buy Viscerafest on Steam and GOG.com yet. The GOG store page doesn't mention it, but the Linux build is there." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/fast-paced-sci-fi-arena-styled-fps-viscerafest-has-entered-early-access-and-looks-great | May 21 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fast-paced sci-fi arena-styled FPS Viscerafest has entered Early Access and looks great | GamingOnLinux | May 21 15:34 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Eugenics is back. It's just less horrifying this time. | May 21 15:34 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:33] <baronhk[m]1> They're clearly focused on helping him make this blow over so he can get back to his eugenics and unethical medical experiments and death by patents. "Charity work." | May 21 15:34 |
| schestowitz__ | to our credit... :) | May 21 15:34 |
| schestowitz__ | we covered this ages ago | May 21 15:35 |
| schestowitz__ | over a decade | May 21 15:35 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Instead of being held down and physically sterilized, they just make everyone so broke that they restrain themselves from having kids, unless they're middle class or above. | May 21 15:35 |
| schestowitz__ | those articles aged very well | May 21 15:35 |
| schestowitz__ | and are even more popular in recent years than a decade back | May 21 15:35 |
| schestowitz__ | baronhk[m]1: military does that too | May 21 15:35 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Also, even the MSM admits that more people are having "fertility issues" than ever before. | May 21 15:35 |
| schestowitz__ | for population control | May 21 15:35 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Although won't go into the reasons. | May 21 15:36 |
| schestowitz__ | some do | May 21 15:36 |
| schestowitz__ | some explain | May 21 15:36 |
| schestowitz__ | I linked to one yesterday | May 21 15:36 |
| schestowitz__ | hang on | May 21 15:36 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It leaves people to guess at what might be causing the sterility. It could be anything, so some people assume it's vaccines. | May 21 15:36 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:05] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #TheEconomist #Overpopulation ☞ Sperm counts are falling precipitously across the rich world https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/05/19/sperm-counts-are-falling-precipitously-across-the-rich-world | May 21 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sperm counts are falling precipitously across the rich world | The Economist | May 21 15:36 | |
| techrights-bot | "It's releasing on August 31 with #GNU #Linux support on Steam." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/sci-fi-action-rpg-beyond-mankind-launches-with-linux-support-this-august | May 21 15:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sci-fi action-RPG Beyond Mankind launches with Linux support this August | GamingOnLinux | May 21 15:39 | |
| techrights-bot | Roguelite village-builder Kainga: Seeds of Civilization sounds unusual and has #GNU #Linux plans https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/roguelite-village-builder-kainga-seeds-of-civilization-sounds-unusual-and-has-linux-plans | May 21 15:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Roguelite village-builder Kainga: Seeds of Civilization sounds unusual and has Linux plans | GamingOnLinux | May 21 15:39 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/05/22/rioting-amid-demonstrations-for-racial-justice-may-have-helped-donald-trump | May 21 15:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rioting amid demonstrations for racial justice may have helped Donald Trump | The Economist | May 21 15:41 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Seeing BLM burn down your city helped Trump there. Go figure. | May 21 15:41 |
| trttl | >They're clearly focused on helping him make this blow over - just checked bill's wikipedia page. there are exactly 3 sentences about his divorce and the article is locked | May 21 15:41 |
| baronhk[m]1 | They very nearly caused the second term of Donald Trump. | May 21 15:41 |
| techrights-bot | "hopefully it will continue the tradition of #GNU #Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/stellaris-is-free-to-play-for-the-weekend-along-with-a-big-paradox-sale-ahead-of-pdxcon | May 21 15:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stellaris is free to play for the weekend along with a big Paradox sale ahead of PDXCON | GamingOnLinux | May 21 15:41 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | People were very sympathetic to BLM at first, when it was peaceful and when they said stop killing people like Floyd. | May 21 15:42 |
| schestowitz__ | trttl: locked, except... | May 21 15:42 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Then when it turned nasty and they started looting and burning, people nearby didn't take kindly to that. People are generally sympathetic, but realize when they're being played for chumps. | May 21 15:42 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2021/02/25/cancelled-in-wikipedia/ | May 21 15:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If Wikipedia is Controlled by Corporations and Mobs, It Needs to Be ‘Cancelled’ | Techrights | May 21 15:43 | |
| schestowitz__ | Lots more in http://techrights.org/category/wikipedia/ | May 21 15:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Wikipedia | Techrights | May 21 15:43 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | That's why 22 states are no rejecting the enhanced federal unemployment and making people hunt for jobs. | May 21 15:43 |
| schestowitz__ | long story short, Microsoft pays people to control and edit Wikipedia | May 21 15:43 |
| schestowitz__ | and got caught | May 21 15:43 |
| baronhk[m]1 | *now | May 21 15:43 |
| trttl | yeah not surprised | May 21 15:44 |
| baronhk[m]1 | <trttl ">They're clearly focused on help"> Wikipedia. The free encyclopedia that any corporate meat puppets can edit. | May 21 15:44 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The only edits I make that aren't usually reverted are about Free Software where there's no interest in sanitizing the article. | May 21 15:45 |
| baronhk[m]1 | When I created a comparison of Snap and Flatpak and it made Snap look worse, Canonical paid someone to come in and revert everything. | May 21 15:45 |
| baronhk[m]1 | None of what I put in there was false, it just reflected poorly on snapd. | May 21 15:46 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Every other distribution that offered Snapd has backed it out. | May 21 15:46 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Linux Mint backed it out and then made a Chromium browser package that always supersedes the empty one that's designed to get the snap on your computer. | May 21 15:47 |
| baronhk[m]1 | What they ought to do is just ditch the version made with Ubuntu and pivot to Debian. | May 21 15:47 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The PPAs in Ubuntu are not active like they used to be anyway, so the "compatibility with PPAs" feature is not as attractive. | May 21 15:47 |
| MinceR | pivoting to debian won't help | May 21 15:48 |
| MinceR | pivoting to devuan might help, for a while | May 21 15:48 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Redditors Launch A 'Rescue Mission' For Embattled #SciHub , With The Ultimate Aim Of Building A Decentralized Version https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210519/06365746826/redditors-launch-rescue-mission-embattled-sci-hub-with-ultimate-aim-building-decentralized-version.shtml | May 21 15:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Redditors Launch A 'Rescue Mission' For Embattled Sci-Hub, With The Ultimate Aim Of Building A Decentralized Version | Techdirt | May 21 15:48 | |
| MinceR | void would be a better choice | May 21 15:48 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: they are closely connected in some sense | May 21 15:49 |
| baronhk[m]1 | IBM operates like the Gates Foundation. | May 21 15:49 |
| schestowitz__ | afaik, if you use devuan you can quickly migrate to debian if things go under | May 21 15:49 |
| baronhk[m]1 | "We're donating a billion dollars in development to Linux!" | May 21 15:50 |
| schestowitz__ | baronhk[m]1: go on | May 21 15:50 |
| MinceR | yes, but devuan is still trying to remain free of crapware | May 21 15:50 |
| schestowitz__ | ah, weird analogy | May 21 15:50 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Then they do and it's never been in a worse state than it is now because of that. | May 21 15:50 |
| MinceR | ubuntu and debian and fedora are just slowly and laboriously drifting toward becoming yet another windows | May 21 15:50 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Their calculation of a "billion" in "donations" is investing in what makes their own business work, and that's not usually a good thing for others. | May 21 15:50 |
| techrights-bot | I am rather disturbed to see #corporateMedia again acting like a loudspeaker/megaphone for #gatesfoundation and this time for #lobbying in FAVOUR of #childMarriage even in light of https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html | May 21 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times | May 21 15:51 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | It's like Microsoft being a "contributor" to Linux, and then it turns out it's just laying the foundations for WSL. | May 21 15:51 |
| techrights-bot | "I left IBM in 2013 when things started looking shaky, and never looked back - but I still have an #IBM pension, which keeps me interested in the future of the company." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aWJp96w#replies | May 21 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | So what's going on? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 21 15:52 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | A billion dollars worth of taking things in the wrong direction is worse for the users than nothing at all. | May 21 15:52 |
| techrights-bot | " #IBM has dug its own grave through poor leadership." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aXWweHP#replies | May 21 15:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The best indicator of IBM's state - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 21 15:53 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | IBM doesn't make money if everything just works fine and there's no need of support tickets, which is very nearly where Linux was before they started meddling. | May 21 15:53 |
| techrights-bot | "Omg!!! The discrimination that happened under GINNI’s watch and continues under AK does not qualify #IBM to even be considered." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aX7i8Z8#replies | May 21 15:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Top Companies 2021: The 50 best workplaces to grow your career in the U.S. - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 21 15:53 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | A long and rewarding career until you're 35. | May 21 15:54 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Seems to be how things go in tech now. | May 21 15:54 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Probably why things have gotten so buggy. Inexperienced developers making so many rookie mistakes. | May 21 15:54 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Keeps salary low | May 21 15:54 |
| techrights-bot | "Ibm was already stuck in retraining new hires, this issue is going to be exacerbated as the hiring ramps up after covid and #ibm refusing to give an increment even for inflation" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aT6of7F#replies | May 21 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM is a depressing place to be a developer - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 21 15:54 | |
| MinceR | 21 165139 < baronhk[m]1> It's like Microsoft being a "contributor" to Linux, and then it turns out it's just laying the foundations for WSL. | May 21 15:55 |
| MinceR | also for hype-V | May 21 15:55 |
| MinceR | with incredibly crap code | May 21 15:55 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Hyper-V is how WSL2 works. | May 21 15:55 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It turned out that their reversed "Linux" kernel simulator was too awful to even run many applications at all. | May 21 15:55 |
| MinceR | yeah, but this was well before WSL2 | May 21 15:56 |
| schestowitz__ | WSL is a failiure | May 21 15:56 |
| schestowitz__ | like many other things | May 21 15:56 |
| schestowitz__ | inc. azure | May 21 15:56 |
| schestowitz__ | with its layoffs | May 21 15:56 |
| schestowitz__ | and layoffs in linkedin also | May 21 15:57 |
| schestowitz__ | I think Microsoft is like IBM in the sense that much income just comes from "legacy" | May 21 15:57 |
| schestowitz__ | companies still stuck with Microsoft for some old things | May 21 15:57 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Leaked email from Chicago Police more or less confirms they're pulling out of certain neighborhoods now and not policing them much. | May 21 15:57 |
| baronhk[m]1 | "Staffing shortages" | May 21 15:57 |
| techrights-bot | #Games: Viscerafest, Beyond Mankind, Kainga: Seeds of Civilization, and Stellaris • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151429 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Viscerafest, Beyond Mankind, Kainga: Seeds of Civilization, and Stellaris | Tux Machines | May 21 15:58 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | schestowitz__: The email says forced overtime this Summer. | May 21 15:58 |
| baronhk[m]1 | 12 hours a day 7 days a week in some cases. | May 21 15:58 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I wonder if that will make them less twitchy when deciding whether or not to end someone's life. | May 21 15:59 |
| baronhk[m]1 | This mayor really sucks. | May 21 15:59 |
| techrights-bot | "Do you want to see other BSD heads online, talk about what you have done since last time?" https://mastodon.social/@pitrh/106266020429761402 #bsd #unix #EuroBSDCon #BSDCon | May 21 16:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Peter N. M. Hansteen: "Do you want to see other BSD heads online, talk a…" - Mastodon | May 21 16:01 | |
| techrights-bot | #pakistan #pk https://news.yahoo.com/dozens-held-pakistan-trying-lynch-172915274.html | May 21 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.yahoo.com | Dozens held in Pakistan for trying to lynch brothers accused of blasphemy - police | May 21 16:01 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | https://wgntv.com/news/chicagocrime/2-dead-after-south-shore-shooting | May 21 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | 2 dead after South Shore shooting | WGN-TV | May 21 16:01 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Instead of looking into consensual marriage with judicial and parental safety checks, perhaps the Gates Foundation should look into saving the lives of underaged people in Chicago who pick up a gun because there are no jobs thanks to Democrats. | May 21 16:02 |
| techrights-bot | "the cloud isn't being overrun with ransomware yet? And from what I've seen, "the cloud" is largely Ubuntu, RHEL, and their variants, and containers built on "bases" from their packages." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@carl_klitscher/106259555362383745 | May 21 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.nzoss.nz | carl_klitscher: "@unlofl@mastodon.technology @lightweight the sec…" - Mastodon - NZOSS | May 21 16:02 | |
| techrights-bot | "you could all be replacing IRC with MUDs but noooo" https://bsd.network/@pamela/106267250482204163 | May 21 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bsd.network | pamela :flan_hearts:: "you could all be replacing IRC with MUDs but nooo…" - BSD Network | May 21 16:03 | |
| MinceR | lol | May 21 16:03 |
| techrights-bot | "resolution on sports live streams could have easily been written by industry lobbyists." https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/106268108501270481 #copyright #corruption #entryism #lobbying | May 21 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: "@heiseonline@twitter.com 🇬🇧 This weeks resolution…" - chaos.social | May 21 16:03 | |
| techrights-bot | #anthropology https://neritam.wordpress.com/2021/05/20/after-36-years-these-remains-pop-up-on-a-video-to-teach-about-anthropology/ | May 21 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | After 36 years these remains pop up on a video to teach about anthropology – neritam | May 21 16:04 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | "Instead of looking into consensual marriage with judicial and parental safety checks, perhaps the Gates Foundation should look into saving the lives of underaged people in Chicago who pick up a gun because there are no jobs thanks to Democrats. | May 21 16:04 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Pervert Gates is trying to deflect from his ties to Epstein by prying into the sanctity of marriage while his own wife says she's disgusted by being married to a sex predator who trawled Microsoft for "dates" while married." | May 21 16:04 |
| techrights-bot | "Last Jan, Northwell Health was the subject of a viral New York Times story about the thousands of patients it had sued over medical debt, in the midst of a pandemic. The publicity was so bad that the company abandoned its legal campaign of terror." https://pluralistic.net/2021/05/18/unhealthy-balance-sheet/#health-usury | May 21 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 18 May 2021 – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow | May 21 16:04 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | "In 11 states, cheating on your spouse is a crime, sometimes a felony. Gates admits that he cheated on his spouse." | May 21 16:05 |
| zleap | but is that illegal in Washington State > | May 21 16:05 |
| zleap | ? | May 21 16:05 |
| zleap | i am sure hanging out with convicted sex offenders is a far more heinous offence regardless of it being illegal or not | May 21 16:06 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I was wrong. It's 16 states. | May 21 16:07 |
| baronhk[m]1 | No, not Washington. | May 21 16:07 |
| baronhk[m]1 | But he was talking about it being a "sex crime" to have sex with a 16 year old in some states. | May 21 16:07 |
| zleap | hang on tralled for dates, sounds like one of the RMS alegations | May 21 16:07 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Cheating on MALINDA is technically an offense that can land you in jail in many states. | May 21 16:07 |
| techrights-bot | Behind the hate against #freenode there's lots of #groupthink [sic] which begets peer pressure. Same thing that was done to #fsf and #rms months ago... | May 21 16:08 |
| baronhk[m]1 | In North Carolina, you can sue someone for causing your marriage to fall apart. | May 21 16:08 |
| zleap | well the freenode thingis about it being bought out by corporate entity right | May 21 16:08 |
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| baronhk[m]1 | They call it the mother-in-lawsuit. | May 21 16:09 |
| zleap | lol | May 21 16:09 |
| baronhk[m]1 | You can file a lawsuit against someone your spouse as cheating on, or anyone who convinced them to leave you. | May 21 16:09 |
| baronhk[m]1 | *was | May 21 16:09 |
| zleap | ah | May 21 16:09 |
| baronhk[m]1 | *on you with, ugh | May 21 16:09 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Well, I think that should be in every state. | May 21 16:09 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It's very common to sue someone in NC for causing the marriage to fall apart. | May 21 16:10 |
| baronhk[m]1 | You can sue your ex, you can sue the person they were cheating on you with, you can sue your mother in law for advising them to file for divorce. | May 21 16:10 |
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| baronhk[m]1 | Some other states have it too, like 3-4 I think. | May 21 16:10 |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151430 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 21 16:13 | |
| MinceR | 21 170759 < baronhk[m]1> Cheating on MALINDA is technically an offense that can land you in jail in many states. | May 21 16:14 |
| MinceR | it probably can't, if you spend as much on lawyers as gates does | May 21 16:14 |
| MinceR | he could probably also get away with raping children | May 21 16:14 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Well, the last time Illinois even tried to enforce its adultery law was 1997, and the charge was dropped by the prosecutor. | May 21 16:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [16:08] <zleap> well the freenode thingis about it being bought out by corporate entity right | May 21 16:15 |
| schestowitz__ | it happened a long time ago | May 21 16:15 |
| schestowitz__ | nobody complained | May 21 16:15 |
| schestowitz__ | I was told so at the time | May 21 16:15 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It requires adultery and flaunting it, at which point it becomes a Class A Misdemeanor. | May 21 16:15 |
| downey[i] | schestowitz__: https://floss.social/@downey/106268366035797342 | May 21 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Michael Downey 🇺🇳: "The #PIA logo went up on the #freenode #IRC websi…" - FLOSS.social | May 21 16:15 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Technically, mom would have been in violation of Illinois adultery law in 1999, except she lived in Indiana. | May 21 16:15 |
| zleap | i wasn't sure what is meant my hate against freenode | May 21 16:16 |
| baronhk[m]1 | She was boasting to everyone including the goddamned housekeeper that she was cheating on my dad. | May 21 16:16 |
| schestowitz__ | you did not see it maybe | May 21 16:16 |
| schestowitz__ | all the people looking to burn it down | May 21 16:16 |
| zleap | what ever has happened (may be due to the way the admin peopke have been treated) but a lot of people are moving off, | May 21 16:16 |
| schestowitz__ | like it's an objective | May 21 16:16 |
| schestowitz__ | hi downey[i] | May 21 16:16 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I suppose her punishment was Gonad the Barbarian spending all her money on beer and cigarettes while causing her to "walk into a wall" and "fall down the stairs" a time or ten over the next 8 years. | May 21 16:16 |
| schestowitz__ | you badmouthed me in Twitter, IIRC | May 21 16:17 |
| schestowitz__ | 1-2 days ago | May 21 16:17 |
| downey[i] | schestowitz__: You recall incorrectly; my Twitter account is private. | May 21 16:17 |
| schestowitz__ | oh, sorry | May 21 16:18 |
| schestowitz__ | my bad | May 21 16:18 |
| schestowitz__ | https://nitter.cc/JulianKlode/status/1395282819958681603#m | May 21 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Julian Andres Klode (@JulianKlode): "FreeNode is now controlled by Andrew Lee. Andrew Lee links to blog post by Roy Schestowitz. Roy Schestowitz is known associate of Dan Pocock, who runs a bunch of hate speech attack centers against Debian and related communities." | nitter | May 21 16:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | you appear further down | May 21 16:18 |
| schestowitz__ | it's not what you said | May 21 16:18 |
| schestowitz__ | I saw the name in passing | May 21 16:18 |
| schestowitz__ | Don't know who klode is | May 21 16:18 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Ah the bible, it talks at length about people who are so corrupt that they're actually boastful about it. | May 21 16:18 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Which might actually be where the Illinois adultery law came from. | May 21 16:19 |
| schestowitz__ | It's like one of those "HE EVEN SUPPORTED RMS" thing... | May 21 16:19 |
| schestowitz__ | which I think is where I derive some analogies from.. | May 21 16:19 |
| schestowitz__ | peer pressure | May 21 16:19 |
| schestowitz__ | to discourage certain allegiances | May 21 16:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Pocock is Pocock, and I don't condone many things he did and wrote, esp. in recent months | May 21 16:20 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I say if you're going to commit crime, you should only do it if you stand to make a lot of money. Like the Joker said, if you're good at something, never do it for free. | May 21 16:20 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The DMCA has become the goto for imposing censorship and then washing your hands of your involvement in it. | May 21 16:22 |
| schestowitz__ | pretty much.. | May 21 16:22 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The fact that Cancel RMS was on GitHub should severely undermine the petition all by itself. | May 21 16:22 |
| schestowitz__ | it did | May 21 16:22 |
| schestowitz__ | among other things | May 21 16:22 |
| schestowitz__ | many things | May 21 16:23 |
| schestowitz__ | that are poor taste | May 21 16:23 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Not even so much because of Microsoft, but because of how it has turned it into "Today in the complete joke of Fair Use process.". | May 21 16:23 |
| schestowitz__ | GitHub is not just Microsoft | May 21 16:23 |
| schestowitz__ | it'a slso proprietary software | May 21 16:23 |
| schestowitz__ | it's also surveillance | May 21 16:23 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Firefox is proprietary software. It's also developed on GitHub, it's also just not very good. | May 21 16:23 |
| techrights-bot | #SublimeText 4 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151431 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sublime Text 4 | Tux Machines | May 21 16:24 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | They were boasting of Apple's M1 processor and their port to it. | May 21 16:24 |
| baronhk[m]1 | At the same time, Reddit started being flooded by people complaining that the Mac port now tries to allocate itself 52 GB of RAM and then crashes. | May 21 16:24 |
| baronhk[m]1 | jemalloc is getting to be pretty embarrassing really. It's no longer suitable. | May 21 16:25 |
| baronhk[m]1 | But I don't think they have the resources to really do anything about memory management in Firefox anymore. They can barely make minor tweaks to the web platform stuff. | May 21 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | Meanwhile: https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/05/18/introducing-site-isolation-in-firefox/ | May 21 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Introducing Site Isolation in Firefox - Mozilla Security Blog | May 21 16:27 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Microsoft is working on a flag to "disable warn on unpacked extensions". | May 21 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | (3 days ago) | May 21 16:27 |
| schestowitz__ | [16:23] <baronhk[m]1> Firefox is proprietary software. It's also developed on GitHub, it's also just not very good. | May 21 16:27 |
| baronhk[m]1 | That alone is enough to be worth using it over Chrome in my opinion, if it actually lands. | May 21 16:27 |
| scientes | you can't register an account of Libera IRC without an email address | May 21 16:27 |
| schestowitz__ | for many purposes Firefox is still the best we have, e.g. for sites that restrict use to very few browsers | May 21 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Just like Freenode? | May 21 16:28 |
| scientes | did I really use an email for freenode | May 21 16:28 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Site Isolation wasn't even written by Mozilla. | May 21 16:28 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The code has been in there for a while, behind a flag. It's from Tor Browser. | May 21 16:28 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't think I gave email to freenode | May 21 16:28 |
| scientes | ^^^ | May 21 16:28 |
| schestowitz__ | and I have a registered account for like a decade+ now | May 21 16:28 |
| schestowitz__ | I forgot how I configured it back then, but there was def no email verification | May 21 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration#registering | May 21 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | Nickname Registration - freenode | May 21 16:29 | |
| schestowitz__ | my password for freenode is just to discourage impersonation | May 21 16:29 |
| scientes | ^^^ | May 21 16:29 |
| scientes | as it should be | May 21 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | and also a IP address condom in some scenario/conditions | May 21 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | email should not be needed for anything | May 21 16:30 |
| schestowitz__ | or phone number | May 21 16:30 |
| schestowitz__ | many people have many phone numbers | May 21 16:30 |
| schestowitz__ | and they can set up lots of email addresses | May 21 16:30 |
| schestowitz__ | millions even | May 21 16:30 |
| scientes | these days you need a phone number to do anything on internet | May 21 16:30 |
| scientes | cause they want to be able to come to your house if the need arises | May 21 16:30 |
| schestowitz__ | landline | May 21 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__, scientes: Regardless of how things may have been, Freenode and LiberaChat both require an E-mail to register. | May 21 16:30 |
| schestowitz__ | household, so impersonal too | May 21 16:30 |
| scientes | you know they are serious about this because they take the effort to blacklist SIP providers | May 21 16:31 |
| scientes | they want to be able to Brazil-like raid your house | May 21 16:31 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: maybe a newer requirement | May 21 16:31 |
| schestowitz__ | irc should not even depend on having an email account, as is the case, but to REGISTER in IRC I think email should not be needed | May 21 16:31 |
| schestowitz__ | and what would email be useful for anyway? Password recovery? | May 21 16:31 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: Probably. | May 21 16:32 |
| schestowitz__ | staff can bypass that | May 21 16:32 |
| schestowitz__ | it's like key under doormat | May 21 16:32 |
| trttl | if it's just for password recovery then why isn't optional | May 21 16:32 |
| scientes | one account to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them | May 21 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | https://oftc.net/Services/#register-your-account same thing | May 21 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-oftc.net | OFTC - Services | May 21 16:33 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | <schestowitz__ "for many purposes Firefox is sti"> My bank is now blocking Firefox. | May 21 16:33 |
| scientes | <baronhk[m]1> <schestowitz__ "for many purposes Firefox is sti"> My bank is now blocking Firefox. | May 21 16:33 |
| baronhk[m]1 | This has been reported to Mozilla, but I doubt that it'll be fixed. | May 21 16:33 |
| scientes | they should re-name it Google-fascilitated-bank | May 21 16:33 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Firefox is the only browser I have a UA override extension installed for. | May 21 16:33 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I just copied the UA out of Microsoft Edge 90 to be used for certain sites. | May 21 16:33 |
| scientes | firefox is the fastest and lowest memory usage | May 21 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | baronhk[m]1: That's the problem with not using the standard de-facto internet explorer. | May 21 16:34 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Every once in a while, I just open edge and figure out what the current UA is and bump it for Firefox in sites that I have an override for. | May 21 16:34 |
| scientes | XRevan86, and with ActiveX enabled | May 21 16:34 |
| techrights-bot | #Linux 5.13 Reverts + Fixes The Problematic University of #Minnesota Patches http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150248?page=1#comment-29716 #sabotage #umn | May 21 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s Why University of Minnesota is Likely to be Banned from Contributing to Linux Kernel Code | Tux Machines | May 21 16:35 | |
| scientes | he should get the asshole professor of the year award | May 21 16:36 |
| techrights-bot | Open Source World’s Favorite IRC Network #Freenode is in Turmoil https://news.itsfoss.com/freenode-controversy/ not a phony scandal, but massively over-inflated: http://techrights.org/2021/05/19/freenode-and-cancel-culture/ | May 21 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Open Source World's Favorite IRC Network Freenode is in Turmoil - It's FOSS News | May 21 16:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Panic Over Freenode Isn’t Justified and Its Reaction Mostly Disproportionate | Techrights | May 21 16:37 | |
| schestowitz__ | [16:33] <scientes> firefox is the fastest | May 21 16:38 |
| schestowitz__ | fattest | May 21 16:38 |
| schestowitz__ | depends what you compare to | May 21 16:39 |
| trttl | fattyfox | May 21 16:39 |
| schestowitz__ | hours ago: https://www.makeuseof.com/freenode-developers-resign-from-project-following-hostile-takeover-by-korean-crown-prince/ | May 21 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Freenode Developers Resign From Project Following “Hostile Takeover” by Korean Crown Prince | May 21 16:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | very important to say Korean | May 21 16:41 |
| scientes | schestowitz__, it uses far less memory than chrome | May 21 16:41 |
| schestowitz__ | even if he's American | May 21 16:41 |
| schestowitz__ | scientes: yes, chrome is a mess | May 21 16:41 |
| scientes | they should change the name from chrome to "fat-suit" | May 21 16:41 |
| schestowitz__ | but not just for technical reasons | May 21 16:41 |
| scientes | but that is basically all there is | May 21 16:42 |
| scientes | and YouTube still doesn't work on Firefox without UA sniffing | May 21 16:42 |
| scientes | because of a passive-agressive attitude | May 21 16:42 |
| scientes | just like they purposefully attacked Edge browser | May 21 16:43 |
| scientes | to kill off the competition | May 21 16:43 |
| MinceR | they learned so much from microsoft | May 21 16:44 |
| scientes | ^^^^ | May 21 16:44 |
| scientes | as someone that has actually worked with that source code | May 21 16:44 |
| scientes | they also learned from Java's anti-social tendencies | May 21 16:44 |
| scientes | they even forked protobuf, a Google project | May 21 16:44 |
| scientes | they can't even work with other Google guys on that piece of software | May 21 16:45 |
| scientes | (granted the protobuf creator left Google and created CapNProto, but that is something totally different) | May 21 16:45 |
| techrights-bot | You can now safely upgrade to Ubuntu 21.04 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151432 Well done, #microsoft ... curtailing and controlling #gnu #linux thanks to bully in "SJW" clothing: http://techrights.org/2021/04/29/cannot-upgrade-ubuntu/ "ain't done till Linux won't run..." | May 21 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | You can now safely upgrade to Ubuntu 21.04 | Tux Machines | May 21 16:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Stallman Was Right About ‘Secure’ Boot (Matthew Garrett’s Work Now Used to Prevent Users Adopting New Ubuntu Releases/Derivatives) | Techrights | May 21 16:45 | |
| techrights-bot | "And it led to my first job, that worked out to something like $20/hour or more, because I only worked about 20 hours a week, to make $400. Doing something that still to this day doesn’t really feel like ‘work’, in the sense my father would define it, anyway. In short, a pretty sweet deal." https://madned.substack.com/p/a-teenagers-guide-to-avoiding-actual | May 21 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-madned.substack.com | A Teenager's Guide to Avoiding Actual Work - The Mad Ned Memo | May 21 16:49 | |
| techrights-bot | "Adjacent string literals are concatenated into a single string." http://smackerelofopinion.blogspot.com/2021/05/adjacent-c-string-concatenation-gotcha.html | May 21 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smackerelofopinion.blogspot.com | A Smackerel of Opinion: Adjacent C string concatenation gotcha | May 21 16:49 | |
| MinceR | what a gotcha | May 21 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | https://www.calvertjournal.com/articles/show/12693/soviet-classic-irony-of-fate-is-getting-a-hollywood-remake uh, what? | May 21 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calvertjournal.com | Soviet classic The Irony of Fate is getting a Hollywood remake — The Calvert Journal | May 21 16:51 | |
| schestowitz__ | indeed | May 21 16:52 |
| schestowitz__ | low on material | May 21 16:52 |
| schestowitz__ | and not big audiences | May 21 16:52 |
| scientes | firefox refuses to load...... | May 21 16:52 |
| schestowitz__ | people busy playing with their doorbells, like mjg59... | May 21 16:52 |
| scientes | schestowitz__, I don't think that man's doorbells ring, if you know what I mean | May 21 16:53 |
| scientes | he works for his master | May 21 16:53 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe it's pwned | May 21 16:53 |
| scientes | Microsoft | May 21 16:53 |
| schestowitz__ | open telnet port with password "ILoveGoogle" | May 21 16:53 |
| MinceR | lol | May 21 16:53 |
| techrights-bot | Recursive #Vim macros: One step further into automating repetitive tasks https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/recursive-vim-macros | May 21 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Recursive Vim macros: One step further into automating repetitive tasks | Enable Sysadmin | May 21 16:55 | |
| techrights-bot | "Note that #Oracle and #Cisco are also listed, the only companies that can rival #IBM in getting rid of people. That tells you how truthful this list really is." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aX7i8Z8#replies #Microsoft | May 21 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Top Companies 2021: The 50 best workplaces to grow your career in the U.S. - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 21 16:57 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm " #Kyndryl letters of offer are in the works. It may be a case of how many accept / decline those offers before layoffs are finalized?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aWJp96w#replies | May 21 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | So what's going on? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 21 16:57 | |
| techrights-bot | "A couple of streams back someone told me about an interesting project. Sonic Robo Blast 2, a FOSS Sonic fan game based on the DOOM engine, I knew that I had to go and play it because that sounds amazing." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yIpSv7P8Z0 | May 21 16:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-【SRB2】Yes, This Is A FOSS Sonic Fan Game - YouTube | May 21 16:58 | |
| techrights-bot | #freesw Ethics, and how the University of #Minnesota Failed #Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150248?page=1#comment-29717 | May 21 17:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s Why University of Minnesota is Likely to be Banned from Contributing to Linux Kernel Code | Tux Machines | May 21 17:00 | |
| XRevan86 | rasengan: (16:00:01) thumbs: 2FA was set a long time ago and Andrew never noticed | May 21 17:00 |
| techrights-bot | "It is originally developed by "Anton Reshetov" a web and deskop app developer, who released it under AGPL V3.0." That's our licence of choice, too. https://medevel.com/masscode/ #massCode #freesw #programming | May 21 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | massCode: A remarkable free snippet manager for macOS, Windows and Linux | May 21 17:02 | |
| techrights-bot | "When asked about choosing the GPLv2 license for the Linux kernel, Torvalds says, “I’m 100% convinced that the license has been a big part of the success of Linux (and Git, for that matter)..." https://www.fosslife.org/linus-torvalds-importance-open-source | May 21 17:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Linus Torvalds on the Importance of Open Source | May 21 17:04 | |
| *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | May 21 17:06 | |
| techrights-bot | A pair of memory-allocation improvements in #linux 5.13 https://lwn.net/Articles/855226/ #kernel | May 21 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A pair of memory-allocation improvements in 5.13 [LWN.net] | May 21 17:06 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | "The idea of using Scheme in the browser was abandoned because management decided it had to look like Java." | May 21 17:07 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Oh, politics. | May 21 17:07 |
| techrights-bot | "A new patch series has been posted implementing #RuntimeVerification (RV) for the #Linux #kernel ." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Runtime-Verification | May 21 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Patches Posted For Linux Runtime Verification - Phoronix | May 21 17:08 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | https://www.npr.org/2021/05/21/998859506/apple-ceo-tim-cook-is-taking-the-witness-stand-friday-heres-why-its-a-big-deal | May 21 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Apple CEO Tim Cook Is Taking The Witness Stand Friday. Here's Why It's A Big Deal : NPR | May 21 17:08 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Tim Apple on trial. It's Bill Gates all over again. | May 21 17:08 |
| techrights-bot | #AMD "Beige Goby" GPU Support Targeting Linux 5.14 Inclusion - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Beige-Goby-Linux-5.14 •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/21/#latest | May 21 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD "Beige Goby" GPU Support Targeting Linux 5.14 Inclusion - Phoronix | May 21 17:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | May 21 17:08 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | This time, Apple has to explain why stealing 30% from developers and causing applications to be more expensive is necessary. | May 21 17:09 |
| techrights-bot | #ASpeed AST2500 SSIF BMC Driver Being Worked On For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ASpeed-SSIF-BMC-Linux-Driver •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/21/#latest | May 21 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ASpeed AST2500 SSIF BMC Driver Being Worked On For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix | May 21 17:09 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | They're going with "because otherwise there'd be viruses". | May 21 17:09 |
| techrights-bot | "The x86 architecture makes life relatively easy (in this regard, at least) for kernel developers by providing cache snooping" https://lwn.net/Articles/855328/ | May 21 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Noncoherent DMA mappings [LWN.net] | May 21 17:09 | |
| scientes | but they are the virus | May 21 17:09 |
| techrights-bot | "By the time the last pull request was acted on and 5.13-rc1 was released, a total of 14,231 non-merge commits had found their way into the mainline." https://lwn.net/Articles/855140/ | May 21 17:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The second half of the 5.13 merge window [LWN.net] | May 21 17:10 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | They're not in defensible territory here, so they have to claim that the monopoly helps the user and hope that the judge and the jury fall for it. | May 21 17:10 |
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| scientes | but they would shoot both the jury and the judge before they could ever get inside the buildig | May 21 17:11 |
| schestowitz__ | I read that Microsoft might be using EPIC as a proxy here | May 21 17:12 |
| schestowitz__ | but saw no strong evidence | May 21 17:12 |
| stormchaser3000 | hello | May 21 17:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Epic does make a lot of money via Windows | May 21 17:12 |
| schestowitz__ | stormchaser3000: 0/ | May 21 17:12 |
| schestowitz__ | EPIC the privacy front is also tainted by Microsoft | May 21 17:13 |
| stormchaser3000 | I have read several TechRights articles over the past couple of years, but I never knew there was an IRC channel. Then I discovered the kiwi IRC client at the bottom of one article today :D | May 21 17:13 |
| schestowitz__ | but not the same as the company | May 21 17:13 |
| schestowitz__ | stormchaser3000: yes, we have been on freenode since 2008 | May 21 17:13 |
| stormchaser3000 | looked at which server it connects to, then pointed konversation to this channel | May 21 17:13 |
| schestowitz__ | many of the early folks are still here today | May 21 17:13 |
| stormchaser3000 | cool | May 21 17:13 |
| stormchaser3000 | that's pretty close to when I started using GNU/Linux | May 21 17:13 |
| schestowitz__ | all the stuff logged and published for transparency | May 21 17:13 |
| stormchaser3000 | sounds good :) | May 21 17:14 |
| techrights-bot | "There is a new application available for Sparkers: #LibreWolf " https://sparkylinux.org/librewolf/ #sparkylinux #gnu #linux #debian | May 21 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sparkylinux.org | LibreWolf – SparkyLinux | May 21 17:15 | |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▁▄▆▆▇▆▂▅▆▁▅▅▆▂▅▅▅▄▇▅▆▅▅▄▅▆▂▅▅▅▆▆▃▁ avg(k/sec) 23.83 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▃▂▁▁▂█▂█▃▃▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▃▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▃▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 35.58▕ swarm size (avg): 225.75 ⟲ | May 21 17:15 |
| stormchaser3000 | Microsoft seems to have gotten their grubby little hands on much of the Free Software world :( | May 21 17:17 |
| stormchaser3000 | grubby, oversized, monopolistic hands* | May 21 17:17 |
| stormchaser3000 | while I am happy to see some advances in Free Software, I feel that the coporatization taking place is ruining it for everyone | May 21 17:18 |
| techrights-bot | Behind the design of the fresh new #Firefox coming June 1 https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/new-firefox-coming-june-1/ #www #mozilla | May 21 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1 | The Firefox Frontier | May 21 17:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | stormchaser3000: I know the feeling | May 21 17:20 |
| alextee[m] | https://video.hardlimit.com/videos/watch/e3f620ee-0fb4-4026-abba-da76c578ffed | May 21 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-video.hardlimit.com | RMS Richard Stallman the symbol of Freedom - Hardlimit | May 21 17:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | [15:15] <techrights-bot> There's a conflict in the #freesw world between optimism and pessimism, I've found. Having spoken to longtime activists. On the one hand, free software is everywhere (libre I mean), but at the same time it's under IMMENSE attacks. For me, the way I see it, those attacks are signs of desperation from losing monopolies. THEY WILL NEVER ADMIT THIS OPENLY! | May 21 17:20 |
| schestowitz__ | I wrote it this week | May 21 17:20 |
| schestowitz__ | fight on | May 21 17:20 |
| schestowitz__ | we'll get there | May 21 17:20 |
| schestowitz__ | "there" may vary | May 21 17:20 |
| MinceR | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27234542 | May 21 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | Setting the record straight on Freenode [pdf] | Hacker News | May 21 17:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | but it's a long war, not one battle | May 21 17:20 |
| stormchaser3000 | very true | May 21 17:21 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: yes, saw it | May 21 17:21 |
| schestowitz__ | we published a local copy of it | May 21 17:21 |
| schestowitz__ | in http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/freenode-facts/ | May 21 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Freenode Users Exodus as Self-Fulfilling Prophecy Boosted by Those Looking to Gain | Techrights | May 21 17:21 | |
| schestowitz__ | rasengan is getting a bit of "RMS treatment" atm | May 21 17:21 |
| schestowitz__ | even if the nature of allegations is very different | May 21 17:22 |
| schestowitz__ | RMS is very famous | May 21 17:22 |
| schestowitz__ | rasengan is not so famous | May 21 17:22 |
| MinceR | they're making him famous :> | May 21 17:22 |
| schestowitz__ | alextee[m]: they put my face in that video | May 21 17:23 |
| alextee[m] | that's a bad comparison imo, RMS did a lot for free software | May 21 17:23 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: and freenode | May 21 17:23 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: look how many people in IRC today and yesterday | May 21 17:23 |
| alextee[m] | freenode ltd is just trying to bring corporate interests into the network | May 21 17:23 |
| schestowitz__ | freenode never enjoyed this much 'free press' | May 21 17:23 |
| alextee[m] | i'd rather have a nonprofit behind it | May 21 17:23 |
| schestowitz__ | that's where it's going | May 21 17:23 |
| schestowitz__ | some sort of council or something | May 21 17:23 |
| MinceR | sadly, nonprofit isn't helping anything anymore | May 21 17:24 |
| schestowitz__ | alextee[m]: some people give money to the FSF to do the work | May 21 17:24 |
| MinceR | mozilla foundation is nonprofit, linux-destroying foundation is nonprofit | May 21 17:24 |
| schestowitz__ | they're coopted | May 21 17:24 |
| MinceR | sfc is nonprofit | May 21 17:24 |
| schestowitz__ | gates foundation | May 21 17:24 |
| alextee[m] | indeed, but it's a step up from a for profit | May 21 17:24 |
| alextee[m] | for something like a network geared for free software communities | May 21 17:24 |
| stormchaser3000 | I was on another channel on freenode and I saw someone refer to Andrew Lee as a "trumpist" and I failed to comprehend how someone's political affiliations could be directly tied to trust of that individual... | May 21 17:25 |
| MinceR | osi is nonprofit | May 21 17:25 |
| schestowitz__ | alextee[m]: they start this way | May 21 17:25 |
| schestowitz__ | roads paved... good intentions | May 21 17:25 |
| alextee[m] | for-profit has bad intentions from the beginning | May 21 17:25 |
| schestowitz__ | stormchaser3000: people called me that too | May 21 17:25 |
| schestowitz__ | even though it's perfectly clear I hate trump | May 21 17:25 |
| alextee[m] | the only interest a for-profit has is to make money | May 21 17:25 |
| schestowitz__ | and cannot stand that political orientation either | May 21 17:25 |
| stormchaser3000 | people are insane :/ | May 21 17:25 |
| schestowitz__ | they just project that word onto people they don't agree with | May 21 17:26 |
| schestowitz__ | stormchaser3000: cartoon on this http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/think-about-facts/ | May 21 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | “The Mob Rushes in Where Individuals Fear to Tread.” ― B.F. Skinner, Walden Two | Techrights | May 21 17:26 | |
| stormchaser3000 | yeah, that sounds about right. I guest "trumpist" can be added to the list of "ist" phrases that people use to label those they disagree with | May 21 17:26 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe say saw "real" in the username | May 21 17:27 |
| schestowitz__ | even though it predates Trump presidency | May 21 17:27 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe not his twitter account | May 21 17:27 |
| schestowitz__ | but he barely gor noticed till 2015 | May 21 17:27 |
| schestowitz__ | >> Andrew Lee as a "trumpist" a | May 21 17:28 |
| schestowitz__ | "IF YOU SUPPORT FREENODE, YOU LITERALLY SUPPORT WHITE SUPREMACY!" | May 21 17:28 |
| schestowitz__ | trump is gold "identity politics" | May 21 17:28 |
| XRevan86 | stormchaser3000: They're talking about https://twitter.com/2drewlee , a different Andrew Lee. | May 21 17:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/2drewlee ) | May 21 17:28 | |
| schestowitz__ | so they don't need to argue regarding what actually happened | May 21 17:28 |
| schestowitz__ | like wresting control over the freenode domain | May 21 17:28 |
| schestowitz__ | first away from rasengan | May 21 17:29 |
| schestowitz__ | to which he then reacted | May 21 17:29 |
| schestowitz__ | they cited "FSF" | May 21 17:29 |
| stormchaser3000 | I fail to comprehend humanity at this point. It's like large swath of people are joining some odd cult | May 21 17:29 |
| alextee[m] | as a sidenote, i don't like how it's just assumed that anything related to trump is objectively bad. there's lots of people who support him | May 21 17:29 |
| schestowitz__ | so some of it was motivated by the aftermath of "Cancel RMS" | May 21 17:29 |
| schestowitz__ | alextee[m]: look what alternatives they offer | May 21 17:29 |
| XRevan86 | stormchaser3000: There's a Trumpist Andrew Lee who is Asian-looking. However, that's not the same Andrew Lee as in Freenode, Ltd. and PIA. | May 21 17:29 |
| schestowitz__ | HRC, Biden... | May 21 17:29 |
| schestowitz__ | all the politicians are support are most loathed by Trump and his followers | May 21 17:30 |
| schestowitz__ | people whom they issue threats to | May 21 17:30 |
| stormchaser3000 | ah ok | May 21 17:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Yang is cool https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Yang | May 21 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Andrew Yang - Wikipedia | May 21 17:30 | |
| schestowitz__ | but he never stood a chance | May 21 17:30 |
| schestowitz__ | non-conformist for US political system | May 21 17:31 |
| schestowitz__ | John and Jane from Kentucky would not vote for someone so... 'foreign' | May 21 17:31 |
| stormchaser3000 | I had heard about yang. It sounds like he had actually sat down and thought about what he was going to try as opposed to just pandering to some political ideology and the group that subscribes to it | May 21 17:31 |
| stormchaser3000 | not trying to endorse to disavow him, but rather attempting to make an observation | May 21 17:32 |
| schestowitz__ | " As an outsider who hasn't used IRC or Freenode in over a decade, this situation is impenetrable. Neither the posts by the Freenode volunteers nor this post by Andrew paint a coherent narrative I can follow (maybe I'm just old)." | May 21 17:32 |
| stormchaser3000 | no, it definitely doesn't paint the whole picture | May 21 17:32 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: I've been reading Freenode/LiberaChat stuff for two days non-stop and I still haven't figured out the situation. | May 21 17:33 |
| stormchaser3000 | it sounds like Bryan Lunduke might use some of his connnections to get some information on what happened in the freenode drama | May 21 17:33 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: Andrew Lee saved freenode | May 21 17:33 |
| CrystalMath | that's what happened | May 21 17:33 |
| stormchaser3000 | if he gets some good information, should I post a link to his information on here? | May 21 17:33 |
| alextee[m] | i mean, the red flags started in 2018 or whenever freenode ltd got sold. it looks like the recent stuff is just the tip of the iceberg. many people just don't want corporate involvement, regardless of who is in the wrong here | May 21 17:34 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Your Terrorists Are Our Freedom Fighters | May 21 17:34 |
| CrystalMath | alextee[m]: really, freenode is for the better now, by far | May 21 17:34 |
| CrystalMath | ex-freenode staff was horrible | May 21 17:35 |
| CrystalMath | i don't want to think about the stuff they did, it fills me with so much anger i can't control it | May 21 17:35 |
| CrystalMath | so i would rather forget that ex-freenode staff ever existed | May 21 17:36 |
| MinceR | don't | May 21 17:36 |
| MinceR | most of them are still there at oftc :> | May 21 17:36 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: and at libera.crap | May 21 17:36 |
| CrystalMath | i don't really care, though | May 21 17:37 |
| CrystalMath | i'm now fine with them knowing that i hate them more than i thought hate could be possible | May 21 17:37 |
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| schestowitz__ | CrystalMath: let me show you... | May 21 17:41 |
| MinceR | "we have such sights to show you..." | May 21 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ | May 21 17:41 |
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| schestowitz__ | now that they ragequit | May 21 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe I can post some names | May 21 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | I removed from from the article | May 21 17:41 |
| MinceR | :) | May 21 17:42 |
| schestowitz__ | related to the anti-RMS thing | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | for these reasons | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:08:12 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>hey | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:08:29 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>ive been targeted by some of these same people for years | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:08:39 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>and am trying to sort it out with oftc and freenode right at this very moment | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:08:51 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>and may be able to provide information that will help your effort | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:13:33 BST] <schestowitz__>go ahead | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:13:57 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>im very tired it is late here, but a few years ago i was targeted in much the same way daniel pocock was | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:14:10 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>and it went on for years | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:14:29 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>to the point where both oftc and freenode networks' staff got involved | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:14:49 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>an ancient story now, but, ties in to current | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:15:06 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>so anyway i was probing into the background w/ molly de blanc at debian | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:15:21 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>and was approached by tom wesley (board at OFTC) | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:15:26 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>who asked me about my role in the RMS thing | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | --------- | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | seems like a method now | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | claim someone is "connected" to pocock | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | and then try to cancel them | May 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | they lobbies fsf to also cancel him | May 21 17:44 |
| MinceR | microsoft/ibm finally has something that works | May 21 17:44 |
| schestowitz__ | *lobbied | May 21 17:44 |
| MinceR | of course they're going to use it on everybody | May 21 17:44 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:15:31 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>since i did some PR counter-campaign work | May 21 17:44 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:15:43 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>i told him what i knew and was informed he was going to issue a kline by him | May 21 17:44 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:15:54 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>when he did he issued it for both networks | May 21 17:44 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:15:59 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>as he is staff at both networks now | May 21 17:44 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:16:17 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>i connected to oftc by proxy to talk to their staff | May 21 17:44 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:16:25 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>tomaw had doug freed (dwfreed) step in | May 21 17:44 |
| schestowitz__ | afaik, they all quit by now | May 21 17:44 |
| schestowitz__ | but now you can see what they did | May 21 17:44 |
| opal | XRevan86 what do you want to know | May 21 17:45 |
| schestowitz__ | they are also connected to oftc | May 21 17:45 |
| stormchaser3000 | the next thing you know the entire free software community will be labeled as rapists and child molesters or something to that effect | May 21 17:45 |
| schestowitz__ | they hope... | May 21 17:45 |
| schestowitz__ | but there's resistance to that agenda | May 21 17:45 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:16:31 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>who reissued the kline | May 21 17:45 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:16:36 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>and it expired at oftc | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:16:41 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>and i cleared it up w/ freenode | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:16:47 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>by talking to their staff | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:17:00 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>until today dwfreed approached me again | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:17:10 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>and issued a kline with no explanation other than "harassment, lol" | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:17:20 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>and this kline was once again on both oftc and freenode | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:17:31 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>i have worked it out w/ oftc but not freenode yet | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:17:36 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>work in progress | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:17:38 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>but | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:18:04 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>the issue here is both of these people are tied up w/ the weirdness around debian/gnome foundation and are leaking into positions of control at freenode | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | now they try to cancel FREENODE itself | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | notice the names | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't mind naming them now | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | I did not about a month ago | May 21 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | opal: Is it true that 2FA was added a long time ago and rasengan only incidentally recently noticed that after checking when tomaw contacted him on ownership? | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | for obvious reasons | May 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | but they they show their cards, some of them as above | May 21 17:46 |
| opal | oh, questions like that | May 21 17:46 |
| opal | i'm aware of the situation in general but not that aware | May 21 17:46 |
| opal | i could ask around but it'd likely be a game of he-said-she-said | May 21 17:47 |
| schestowitz__ | 2fa is not a good model | May 21 17:47 |
| schestowitz__ | sounds good on paper only | May 21 17:47 |
| XRevan86 | The registrar may be keeping a timeline of when 2FA was added and removed. | May 21 17:47 |
| schestowitz__ | and it leads to many human rights issues, too | May 21 17:47 |
| schestowitz__ | "Would you like my urine sample, too?" | May 21 17:47 |
| opal | perhaps, for account auditing purposes i think a lot of registrars do that | May 21 17:47 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: OTP really works. | May 21 17:47 |
| opal | i use totp 2fa where it's supported, but i'd prefer pki auth | May 21 17:48 |
| schestowitz__ | this is a key part: | May 21 17:48 |
| stormchaser3000 | I am planning on writing an article about the Stallman situation (in support of Stallman of course), but I am trying to figure out what angle I should come at it from | May 21 17:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:18:13 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>which is a central hub of activity for the open source community | May 21 17:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:18:25 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>and are using that access control to suppress pro-rms campaigning | May 21 17:48 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:18:49 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>which leads me to believe there will be another wave after all the key players who jammed up their last effort are gone | May 21 17:48 |
| schestowitz__ | I was warned a long time ago freenode would suffer some fate | May 21 17:48 |
| schestowitz__ | and that the goal would be to target some people | May 21 17:48 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't want to move to a network controlled by people who witch-hunt people who campaigned for the FSF | May 21 17:49 |
| schestowitz__ | the whole thing puts in context my concerns for freenode | May 21 17:49 |
| stormchaser3000 | yeah | May 21 17:49 |
| schestowitz__ | all that "letter of resignation" in tandem thing is similar to what osi gnome foundation and others coordinated | May 21 17:49 |
| schestowitz__ | and then chose Microsoft as their platform | May 21 17:49 |
| schestowitz__ | with typescript (Microsoft) code | May 21 17:49 |
| opal | devault is trying his best to convince libera.chat staff to refrain from nonfree platforms, going forward | May 21 17:50 |
| opal | we'll see how that works out | May 21 17:50 |
| stormchaser3000 | wasn't there also a website started for GNU project maintainers who subscribed to a certain political ideology? | May 21 17:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:19:38 BST] <schestowitz__>you need to backtrack a bit and explain more | May 21 17:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:19:40 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>alot of the controversy around why i was being klined left and right surrounded that i had uncovered that molly de blanc has previous smear targets | May 21 17:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:20:00 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>and that this is all centered around debian and gnome foundation | May 21 17:50 |
| stormchaser3000 | I don't remember what it was called | May 21 17:50 |
| opal | yeah there was a gnu offshoot site | May 21 17:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:20:06 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>sure ask questions | May 21 17:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:20:24 BST] <schestowitz__>what you imply is that freenode will target us too? | May 21 17:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:21:11 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>i believe if the tensions increase that the bad actors leaking over from oftc/gnome/debian will absolutely engaged in reputation management operations or access purging to that aim yes | May 21 17:50 |
| schestowitz__ | rasengan: ^^ | May 21 17:50 |
| schestowitz__ | rasengan: that was a long time ago | May 21 17:50 |
| opal | my ears are open with regard to all sides of this situation | May 21 17:51 |
| schestowitz__ | imagine freenode being 'collateral' here | May 21 17:51 |
| opal | i do have my biases but so far no enemies | May 21 17:51 |
| schestowitz__ | as in, the above was posted around the same time sms was sent to rasengan | May 21 17:51 |
| schestowitz__ | and they had a dispute over control | May 21 17:51 |
| schestowitz__ | citing "FSF" | May 21 17:51 |
| opal | gonna /nick xxxxxxxxxx to confuse everyone | May 21 17:52 |
| opal | and get highlighted a bunch :> | May 21 17:52 |
| schestowitz__ | they also apparently tried to muzzle, as freenode staff, pro-RMS people | May 21 17:52 |
| schestowitz__ | and klined them | May 21 17:52 |
| stormchaser3000 | wow | May 21 17:52 |
| opal | i support rms and havent been pushed off | May 21 17:52 |
| alextee[m] | maybe matrix will be the winner after all this. federated means you don't have to deal with bad admins. but nothing beats the simplicity of IRC | May 21 17:52 |
| stormchaser3000 | I haven't been on Freenode that much lately so I haven't been aware of all the drama | May 21 17:52 |
| opal | then again i avoid political talk on this network | May 21 17:52 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:22:31 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>the small fry fish from that camp are targeting signers of the pro rms letter but not to any real serious impact, the more dangerous influencers will go for the people exposing this or investigating this | May 21 17:52 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:22:52 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>in my case i can fart out a proxy any time i need to by clicking a button so all it has done is inconvenience me | May 21 17:52 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:24:33 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>freenode is not a 'coherent' entity in that they will have widely variant responses to this situation depending on which staff member you get | May 21 17:52 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:24:46 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>its the ones that are also in with OFTC staff counts that are going to be the problem | May 21 17:52 |
| schestowitz__ | ^ around the time tomaw sms re "FSF" | May 21 17:53 |
| stormchaser3000 | yeah, I don't like matrix | May 21 17:53 |
| opal | alextee[m] i've used irc for a decade and don't see it having a future as a platform or a protocol | May 21 17:53 |
| stormchaser3000 | the protocol is very bloated | May 21 17:53 |
| opal | matrix isnt much better but i use it | May 21 17:53 |
| schestowitz__ | afaik, there's no proper 'vetting' fro freenode staff | May 21 17:53 |
| stormchaser3000 | IRC is simple and easy to use given that you have a good client | May 21 17:53 |
| alextee[m] | yeah the protocol is really bad, they should have went with a binary protocol at least instead of this JSON mess | May 21 17:53 |
| schestowitz__ | they pick volunteers | May 21 17:53 |
| opal | problem is there are no good clients | May 21 17:53 |
| alextee[m] | but it works ™️ | May 21 17:53 |
| schestowitz__ | and they can be subjected to friend-brings-a-friend entryism | May 21 17:53 |
| opal | and it is not easy to use if youre an op or admin of anything | May 21 17:54 |
| schestowitz__ | IRC is not hard | May 21 17:54 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I've been reading about this Covenant Eyes thing that Josh Duggar's wife apparently made him install on his laptops and phone. | May 21 17:54 |
| stormchaser3000 | yeah, IRC is easy | May 21 17:54 |
| schestowitz__ | unless you want to do "special" things | May 21 17:54 |
| opal | irc's fucking tedious | May 21 17:54 |
| alextee[m] | <opal "problem is there are no good cli"> that's a chicken and egg problem. features are still coming out. nheko is not so bad but element is always the most up to date | May 21 17:54 |
| opal | no, this isnt a chicken/egg problem, this is a problem inherent in irc's design | May 21 17:54 |
| baronhk[m]1 | She must have been hallucinating if she thought this was going to keep her husband in line after everyone knew he was a child molester and a rapist. | May 21 17:54 |
| stormchaser3000 | nheko is not terrible, but I would still prefer something even lighter weight. Quaternion maybe? | May 21 17:54 |
| opal | it is impossible to make a fully-conformant client due to the number of heuristics necessary to figure out what an ircd supports | May 21 17:55 |
| schestowitz__ | ah, makes sense | May 21 17:55 |
| opal | i've used and hacked on multiple ircds, multiple clients, written a few bots | May 21 17:55 |
| opal | irc's shit | May 21 17:55 |
| schestowitz__ | but it is widely supported | May 21 17:55 |
| opal | objectively so | May 21 17:55 |
| schestowitz__ | like http/www | May 21 17:55 |
| schestowitz__ | pure garbage | May 21 17:55 |
| schestowitz__ | but widely used | May 21 17:55 |
| opal | lol | May 21 17:55 |
| schestowitz__ | so all of us still use it sometimes | May 21 17:55 |
| schestowitz__ | dns has many issues | May 21 17:56 |
| opal | http (1.1) has better design than irc by miles | May 21 17:56 |
| stormchaser3000 | fair point | May 21 17:56 |
| schestowitz__ | and now they add some encryption to it, decades late | May 21 17:56 |
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| opal | dns is garbage yes | May 21 17:56 |
| XRevan86 | opal: Also interesting is the situation with the acquisition, how did it happen that christel sold freenode, but the people involved in freenode didn't know what that even meant and weren't involved neither in the sell nor in the company? | May 21 17:56 |
| schestowitz__ | opal: it's also newer | May 21 17:56 |
| stormchaser3000 | modern http and www is garbage | May 21 17:56 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: SUDDENLY it became an issue | May 21 17:56 |
| schestowitz__ | the ads | May 21 17:56 |
| schestowitz__ | the owenrship etc. | May 21 17:56 |
| opal | XRevan86 i think it'll clear up a lot of things if you know this key fact: there has never been great communication between freenode staff here | May 21 17:57 |
| stormchaser3000 | I ended up being so disillusioned with the whole JavaScript VM running in a web browser thing that I just use PHP to generate simple webpages on my site | May 21 17:57 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: Yea, and if the 2FA was there for a while, then rasengan started this. | May 21 17:57 |
| opal | with libera.chat i hope theyre rectifying that. they published https://libera.chat/bylaws which states how they are going to operate now | May 21 17:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libera.chat | Libera Chat Bylaws | Libera Chat | May 21 17:57 | |
| opal | monthly meetings, an actual board, et cetera | May 21 17:57 |
| stormchaser3000 | no extra client-side work necessary | May 21 17:57 |
| opal | so hopefully that helps | May 21 17:57 |
| schestowitz__ | if you trust those people | May 21 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | I worried about them a month ago | May 21 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | when the shitstorm was brewing silently | May 21 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:25:11 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>Doug Freed is not currently staff but was able to get a kline on freenode at the same time he issued one on oftc | May 21 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:25:32 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>so there is some relationship there i dont fully understand yet | May 21 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:25:51 BST] <schestowitz__>fsf uses freenode | May 21 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:25:57 BST] <schestowitz__>canonical pays freenode | May 21 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:26:09 BST] <schestowitz__>but I never had bad experiences with freenode | May 21 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:26:16 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>they are usually pretty good | May 21 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:26:31 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>its the ones that are staff at oftc that are staff at freenode that are the problem there | May 21 17:58 |
| opal | i believe libera is making efforts to do things right | May 21 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | oftc | May 21 17:58 |
| opal | emphasis on effort | May 21 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | look who promotes it this week | May 21 17:58 |
| opal | whether its what everyone ends up agreeing with, whether things will be done right, thats for time to tell | May 21 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | some of the people whom I resent for attacking Torvalds and RMS | May 21 17:58 |
| opal | same with freenode | May 21 17:58 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: Because then it means that the chain of events started with tomaw asking rasengan a question, rasengan looking into the account, *noticing* a thing and then reacting to it. | May 21 17:58 |
| opal | under new management, time will tell what happens | May 21 17:59 |
| schestowitz__ | oftc is like the osi of irc | May 21 17:59 |
| schestowitz__ | having more options if a positive | May 21 17:59 |
| opal | oftc has historically been much more dysfunctional than freenode | May 21 17:59 |
| schestowitz__ | but what if the people who run that network run amok with censorship? | May 21 17:59 |
| opal | but i hear theyre trying to change as well | May 21 17:59 |
| schestowitz__ | some of the same people who started doing this in freenode | May 21 17:59 |
| schestowitz__ | as staff | May 21 17:59 |
| schestowitz__ | as if pro-RMS is some sort of pedophilia | May 21 18:00 |
| schestowitz__ | we will know soon | May 21 18:01 |
| MinceR | > federated means you don't have to deal with bad admins. | May 21 18:01 |
| opal | depends how the bans were happening. i know freenode *never* supported political channels, theyre technically off-topic, but freenode left them alone if they caused few issues | May 21 18:01 |
| stormchaser3000 | well, I am off for now. Thanks for the enlightening conversation :) | May 21 18:01 |
| MinceR | not exactly, ask baronhk[m]1 about it :> | May 21 18:01 |
| opal | there are definitely better places for that discussion | May 21 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | I, myself, kept close to my chest thing I had heard | May 21 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | I knew about freenode issues ahead | May 21 18:01 |
| opal | so did i | May 21 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | but did not want to admonish some staff | May 21 18:01 |
| stormchaser3000 | have a good day everyone | May 21 18:01 |
| opal | cya | May 21 18:01 |
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| schestowitz__ | as it would worsen things and break down discussions | May 21 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | but now it seems too late for that | May 21 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | and media isn't trying to mend things | May 21 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | they're all "FREENODE IS DEAD! RUN AWAY, PEASANTS!!" | May 21 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | and we might end up running away to some of the elements that raised a stink over a non-issue | May 21 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | or not a new issue | May 21 18:02 |
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| schestowitz__ | hi, lavender- | May 21 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | familiar nick, cannot recall where from | May 21 18:04 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Someone is sending scam texts claiming to be from the Indiana unemployment office. | May 21 18:04 |
| baronhk[m]1 | I got one a few minutes ago and called the state's 800 number to figure out what was going on. They said there's a text scam going around where they just hit Indiana phone numbers at random and try to get information from you with a link to a fake website. | May 21 18:04 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Anyway.... | May 21 18:05 |
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| baronhk[m]1 | schestowitz__: I wonder how Covenant Eyes has managed to stay in business. | May 21 18:05 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Are people really so deluded that they think they'll bring a cheater (or worse) back into the fold by installing some crap software on their computers? | May 21 18:06 |
| techrights-bot | Multigen LRU Patches Updated For Addressing Linux's Expensive Page Reclaimation - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Multigen-LRU-Framework-V3 •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/21/#latest | May 21 18:06 |
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| XRevan86 | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27236455 | May 21 18:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/21/#latest ) | May 21 18:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27236455 ) | May 21 18:07 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | If people really want to do something, they'll figure out how to get it done. If it was really so easy to control people, then laws designed to stop suicide would have some effect. | May 21 18:07 |
| opal | schestowitz__ i'll say that the freenode fiasco has encouraged me to move my project channel exclusively to our own irc network | May 21 18:07 |
| opal | i could have re-registered the project on libera but i didnt want to | May 21 18:07 |
| opal | good excuse just to redirect everyone over to something self-hosted | May 21 18:07 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It seems to me that Covenant Eyes is some creepy pseudo-Christian company that makes money off of failing marriages. | May 21 18:07 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Private Christian universities pitch it as a way to make your relationship work. | May 21 18:08 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Whatever makes them want to cheat isn't going to be resolved by a computer program with a subscription fee, which is doing who knows what with the data that it collects. | May 21 18:09 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The divorce rate has reached crisis levels, and it's really embarrassing to the churches and they're throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks at this point. | May 21 18:09 |
| scientes | what is Epic? | May 21 18:10 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Even to the point of "private counseling with pastors" over stuff that should be turned over to the police. | May 21 18:10 |
| scientes | XRevan86, do you follow hacker news? | May 21 18:10 |
| scientes | I find that is the usual US delusion of grandeur and arrogance | May 21 18:10 |
| scientes | which I know toooooooooo well | May 21 18:10 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: No, MinceR shared the link and now I read through the comments. | May 21 18:10 |
| scientes | baronhk[m]1, that is what she said | May 21 18:10 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: seems like a clear summary | May 21 18:10 |
| scientes | baronhk[m]1, you mean butt sex? | May 21 18:10 |
| schestowitz__ | assuming it is accurate | May 21 18:11 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Christians tend to think that they "follow a higher law", so they tend to keep evidence of crimes to themselves and even try to destroy it and deal with it internally. | May 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz__ | opal: nice if you have many nodes offhand | May 21 18:12 |
| baronhk[m]1 | That's where so many scandals involving the Catholics come in. | May 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz__ | and can administer, debug etc. the irc daemon | May 21 18:12 |
| opal | schestowitz__ yeah, a few others and i have been running servers for a while | May 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz__ | I object to running my own fediverse-compatible thing | May 21 18:12 |
| opal | the network isnt new, i just figured freenode would have been a good "outpost" for people who didnt want to join there | May 21 18:13 |
| schestowitz__ | each time something goes wrong, it's a very big job for just one account | May 21 18:13 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The Archdiocese of Chicago just reinstated a priest who was investigated for a rape in 1986. | May 21 18:13 |
| opal | but since people are scattering to other networks anyway, whats the point | May 21 18:13 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Because there wasn't enough evidence. | May 21 18:13 |
| schestowitz__ | opal: a lot of stuff is hard-linked to freenode | May 21 18:13 |
| opal | what does hard-linked mean here | May 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz__ | it's also a mass appeal/critical mass thing, you would not persuade many people to add another network, and I suppose some irc clients.gateways won't support that either | May 21 18:14 |
| opal | oh you mean client-wise | May 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz__ | or scripts | May 21 18:14 |
| schestowitz__ | people developed many things around this infra | May 21 18:14 |
| techrights-bot | #Kernel : Latest Linux News From Phoronix, LWN, and Linus #Torvalds Interview • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151434 #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Latest Linux News From Phoronix, LWN, and Linus Torvalds Interview | Tux Machines | May 21 18:15 | |
| XRevan86 | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27236681 | May 21 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | As an ex-freenode staffer, this is simply untrue. You took over with zero trans... | Hacker News | May 21 18:16 | |
| techrights-bot | A compact #RaspberryPi RP2040 WiFi board - Meet $12.95 Wio RP2040 mini - CNX Software ⇨ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/05/21/wio-rp2040-mini-raspberry-pi-rp2040-wifi-board/ •●• #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware | | May 21 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | A compact Raspberry Pi RP2040 WiFi board - Meet $12.95 Wio RP2040 mini - CNX Software | May 21 18:17 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | May 21 18:18 |
| schestowitz__ | The mail server was working when the whole staff team resigned. | May 21 18:18 |
| schestowitz__ | What happened after then will have entirely been within the control of the freenode management, their administration, and their sponsors. | May 21 18:18 |
| schestowitz__ | Every ex-freenode staffer I have talked to has been exceptionally cautious about damaging the data and systems they tended for literal decades, and to my knowledge none were disrupted. | May 21 18:18 |
| schestowitz__ | " | May 21 18:18 |
| schestowitz__ | I know kaniini had some stuff cut off, but accidentally they claim | May 21 18:18 |
| schestowitz__ | like expired or deleted certs | May 21 18:18 |
| XRevan86 | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27236716 "The issue with services was not due to the "previous team", but rather due to the sponsor pulling their box" | May 21 18:19 |
| schestowitz__ | that was around the time things already started to rot | May 21 18:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | I see that you are spreading your falsehoods here, too. The issue with services... | Hacker News | May 21 18:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | and there were battles | May 21 18:19 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:26:43 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>e.g. Tom Wesley and his pose | May 21 18:19 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:26:45 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>*posse | May 21 18:19 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:27:43 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>debian crossover and gnome foundation crossover is in every instance ive seen been the common association of every actor involved | May 21 18:19 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:28:02 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>including elana hashman and neil mcgovern | May 21 18:19 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:28:47 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>i am currently working on a project that will produce a new linux distribution not based on another | May 21 18:19 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:28:55 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>this is when the targeting really started | May 21 18:19 |
| schestowitz__ | (in freenode) | May 21 18:20 |
| schestowitz__ | some of those admins have mixed obligations and loyalties | May 21 18:20 |
| schestowitz__ | and since there's no salary, they might prioritise for gain in ways other money | May 21 18:20 |
| schestowitz__ | power and politics | May 21 18:20 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:29:22 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>one of the debian people named Ikonia (Matt Darcy) started trying to blacklist our contributors | May 21 18:20 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:29:40 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>and started trying to disrupt that projects' members' relationships with other projects | May 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:29:49 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>the same strategy as done w/ daniel pocock | May 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:30:16 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>who as it turns out was also targeted by molly de blanc | May 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:30:23 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>which was profitable to her career | May 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:30:58 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>it also helped obscure and deflect the fact that she was having an affair with chris lamb | May 21 18:21 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Apparently, I might have been wrong about minimum marriage age laws. | May 21 18:21 |
| baronhk[m]1 | According to Wikipedia, Massachusetts might still use Common Law. | May 21 18:21 |
| schestowitz__ | baronhk[m]1: let's focus on tech | May 21 18:21 |
| baronhk[m]1 | That would set marriage to 12 for girls and 14 for boys. Bill Gates might approve of that. | May 21 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: Um, what are ye implying? | May 21 18:22 |
| baronhk[m]1 | It seems like that WGN article was written by someone else. It's appearing all over the place now. | May 21 18:23 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The Gates Foundation is pushing this. | May 21 18:23 |
| techrights-bot | "If #IBM lays you off for being yourself, having fun and saying the truth, it was probably a good thing to happen. If they keep you, it will be in a way you like." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aWWuTE5#replies | May 21 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | What should an employee do? - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 21 18:23 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | Most of these "local news" outfits are just copypasta these days for stories that were written by someone else. | May 21 18:24 |
| schestowitz__ | they are | May 21 18:24 |
| schestowitz__ | same owner a lot of the time | May 21 18:24 |
| schestowitz__ | e.g. Gannett | May 21 18:24 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: quoting, not implying | May 21 18:25 |
| XRevan86 | > some of those admins have mixed obligations and loyalties; and since there's no salary, they might prioritise for gain in ways other money | May 21 18:25 |
| schestowitz__ | the part I added above was, there seems to be a clique of people in freenode... | May 21 18:25 |
| schestowitz__ | ... one with an agenda not necessarily free as in freenoe | May 21 18:25 |
| schestowitz__ | not free software | May 21 18:25 |
| schestowitz__ | or not free speech | May 21 18:25 |
| schestowitz__ | they can use powers over freenode to undermine some people/voices/views/projecta | May 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:33:21 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>what im getting at here is that these all involve coordinated behaviours from people all associated with the same project | May 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:34:32 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>it consistently ties back to debian and their sphere of influence which includes tom wesley, doug freed, and some of the other freenode staff -- not all of them. freenode's official position will probably stay neutral while these bad actors run amok | May 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:35:41 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>most of this can be verified | May 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz__ | [] [04:36:00 BST] <xxxxxxxxx>if you map these people on a board and look at their project associations | May 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz__ | [end of UNREDACTED OLD LOGS] | May 21 18:28 |
| schestowitz__ | those can be correlated with current and future events | May 21 18:28 |
| schestowitz__ | I am watching who says what | May 21 18:28 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: So can anyone. | May 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz__ | the forkers might even use something less free speech-respecting than freenode | May 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz__ | time will tell | May 21 18:29 |
| MinceR | when was that last log from? | May 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: better not to say | May 21 18:29 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: Since they're all from freenode, I'd expect the same policies there. | May 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz__ | as it can add id-related info | May 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: expect | May 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe | May 21 18:29 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: I'd expect the former freenode policies there rather than here. | May 21 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | [05:24] <superkuh> I don't want freenode to split. The anxiety I am having over this is making me physically sick to my stomach. I really wish there were a possible reconciliation. But that can't happen if we just ignore what happened and is well documented. | May 21 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | it make him/her very angry | May 21 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | which already does damage | May 21 18:30 |
| XRevan86 | This is the place that will inevitably see change. Good or bad. | May 21 18:30 |
| MinceR | "well documented", i.e. alleged | May 21 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | the above helps address, I think: | May 21 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | [05:20] <superkuh> I see no relation to the cancel RMS thing except they used github. | May 21 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | [05:21] <superkuh> This wasn't a misinterpreted statement. | May 21 18:31 |
| schestowitz__ | [05:21] <superkuh> On the other side, that he hasn't kicked me or others off the network says a lot for his restraint. | May 21 18:31 |
| schestowitz__ | here's another thing: | May 21 18:31 |
| schestowitz__ | [05:18] <superkuh> When this came out on the 16th I was on his side. | May 21 18:31 |
| schestowitz__ | [05:18] <superkuh> I thought he would just clear things up, bring in other voices that confirmed his statements, etc. | May 21 18:31 |
| schestowitz__ | [05:18] <superkuh> You can look in the logs in joepie's log link post. | May 21 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | [05:18] <superkuh> I asked him to do so. He hasn't still. | May 21 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | [05:19] <superkuh> https://paste.sr.ht/~ircwright/7e751d2162e4eb27cba25f6f8893c1f38930f7c4 ctrl-f 'superkuh' | May 21 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | now, look into | May 21 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-crown-prince-getting-owned.txt — paste.sr.ht | May 21 18:32 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/blog/2011/jun/28/lulzsec-hacking-analysed-relationships | May 21 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | LulzSec chatlogs analysed: who talked to who, and when | LulzSec | The Guardian | May 21 18:32 | |
| schestowitz__ | joepie there | May 21 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | Sabu.. (FBI) mentioned | May 21 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | afaik, for years freenode was operationally independent | May 21 18:33 |
| schestowitz__ | that sort of changed when the cold shoulder was given | May 21 18:33 |
| schestowitz__ | like removing rasengan from access to the domain | May 21 18:34 |
| schestowitz__ | more context in http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200521.txt | May 21 18:34 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: Which was apparently done a lot earlier. | May 21 18:34 |
| schestowitz__ | the access to domain thing? | May 21 18:35 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: Yes. | May 21 18:35 |
| techrights-bot | Build your own RPM package with a sample Go program https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/05/21/build-your-own-rpm-package-sample-go-program #golang #programming | May 21 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Build your own RPM package with a sample Go program | Red Hat Developer | May 21 18:36 | |
| schestowitz__ | which month? | May 21 18:36 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: When christel was still head of staff. | May 21 18:37 |
| schestowitz__ | march? | May 21 18:37 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: I think the question is what year, and the person I asked doesn't have that information. rasengan might have if the registrar keeps the logs (probably does). | May 21 18:39 |
| techrights-bot | #Appwrite 0.8 Released with a Lot of Privacy and Security Improvements https://linuxiac.com/appwrite-0-8-released-with-a-lot-of-privacy-and-security-improvements/ #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware | May 21 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | Appwrite 0.8 Released with a Lot of Privacy and Security Improvements | May 21 18:40 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: Or christel might have that information. Don't think well hear from her any time soon though. | May 21 18:40 |
| schestowitz__ | oh | May 21 18:42 |
| schestowitz__ | you know what I have just realised? | May 21 18:43 |
| schestowitz__ | hacker news links to techrights | May 21 18:43 |
| schestowitz__ | I didn't notice url origin before | May 21 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: It used to be github.com/freenode | May 21 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: Now rasengan changed it. | May 21 18:43 |
| schestowitz__ | what happened then? interesting... | May 21 18:43 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe someone removed it | May 21 18:43 |
| schestowitz__ | like someone with access to that account | May 21 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: No, it's there. | May 21 18:44 |
| schestowitz__ | reminds me of RMS 2019 | May 21 18:44 |
| schestowitz__ | when people defaced his site | May 21 18:44 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: OK, maybe it was at risk of removal from there | May 21 18:44 |
| XRevan86 | Andrews-MacBook-Air.local | May 21 18:44 |
| schestowitz__ | now it's requested from us 0.5-1 times per second | May 21 18:44 |
| XRevan86 | What a poor choice for a laptop %) | May 21 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe he has a range of laptops | May 21 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | that's a side 'issue' | May 21 18:45 |
| techrights-bot | #Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151436 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 18:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 21 18:50 | |
| techrights-bot | #Python #Programming • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151435 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 18:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Python Programming | Tux Machines | May 21 18:50 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: yes | May 21 18:51 |
| schestowitz__ | the whole "WHY NOT LINUX!!" thing is a minor thing in the grand scheme of things | May 21 18:51 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: Has anyone made that point? I just made a passing comment. | May 21 18:52 |
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| techrights-bot | A look at latest #kde plasma https://write.as/niccolove/plasma-gets-prettier-and-more-blurred-by-the-day | May 21 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-write.as | Plasma gets Prettier and more Blurred by the day! — niccolove | May 21 18:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: I assume he does manager stuff | May 21 18:53 |
| schestowitz__ | and may need certain programs some of the time | May 21 18:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: I actually wonder what christel is going through. The actions so far indicate that she doesn't want to deal with stress and maybe that's a sign of severe depression. | May 21 18:54 |
| techrights-bot | "Qualcomm later confirmed to us that the chipset runs Linux." http://linuxgizmos.com/qualcomm-reveals-tiny-linux-driven-5g-nr-chipset-for-iot/ | May 21 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ http://linuxgizmos.com/qualcomm-reveals-tiny-linux-driven-5g-nr-chipset-for-iot/ ) | May 21 18:55 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27236433 We changed the url to one that doesn't do a file download. | May 21 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | We changed the url from https://github.com/freenode/web-7.0/raw/main/static/file... | Hacker News | May 21 18:55 | |
| XRevan86 | that explains it | May 21 18:55 |
| schestowitz__ | ah, ok | May 21 18:55 |
| schestowitz__ | and isn't NSA PRISM :-) | May 21 18:55 |
| rasengan | schestowitz__: I think hacker news posted it to HN (eg changed the URL) I apologize! It was originally github. | May 21 18:56 |
| schestowitz__ | it's fine, github has many issues | May 21 18:56 |
| schestowitz__ | github is also an attack on us http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ | May 21 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story About Microsoft’s Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights | May 21 18:56 | |
| XRevan86 | (17:56:41) XRevan86: thumbs: I wonder if christel is okay, has anyone tried to contact her? | May 21 18:57 |
| XRevan86 | (17:57:07) thumbs: I did, she is fine | May 21 18:57 |
| schestowitz__ | she seems like a nice person | May 21 19:01 |
| schestowitz__ | also from the global messages she sent across the whole network | May 21 19:01 |
| schestowitz__ | not worthy of the abusive language in the resignation letters (some that I saw) | May 21 19:02 |
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| downey[i] | revolutions always eat their own | May 21 19:03 |
| techrights-bot | ...biggest #covid19 cases (or _new_ cases) figures for #uk today... or today and yesterday... worst in over a month. Just 5 days after reopening pretty much everything. | May 21 19:05 |
| schestowitz__ | downey[i]: just like corporations | May 21 19:06 |
| schestowitz__ | human nature | May 21 19:06 |
| schestowitz__ | corporations are run by very few people... or person | May 21 19:06 |
| *schestowitz__ remembers fighting Novell over its patent collusion with Microsoft, which was very much necessary at the time | May 21 19:09 | |
| schestowitz__ | 2006 Hovsepian <3 Ballmer | May 21 19:10 |
| schestowitz__ | 2016 (planB) Microsoft '<3' Linux | May 21 19:10 |
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| schestowitz__ | Hovsepian is from IBM BTW | May 21 19:10 |
| schestowitz__ | then Novell COO, CEO | May 21 19:10 |
| schestowitz__ | IBM <3 software patents | May 21 19:10 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm new building "Looks like East German apartments." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aXD5urv#replies maybe put the workers in Poland near all the 'aktion' http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ | May 21 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Leases 150,000 SF Office Space at CrossPoint in Lowell - post regarding IBM layoffs | May 21 19:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights | May 21 19:12 | |
| techrights-bot | "If you don't like the Audacity/Firefox projects you can copy the source code and distribute a fork. This is pretty much the only thing "open source" implies." That's what #freesw is. #opensource is a co-opting, rebranding, attack plan. https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006555.html | May 21 19:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Digest, Vol 22, Issue 18 | May 21 19:14 | |
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| techrights-bot | 1 year update on the #ThinkPad X1 Yoga laptop https://pointieststick.com/2021/05/20/1-year-update-on-the-thinkpad-x1-yoga-laptop/ with #gnu #linux | May 21 19:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pointieststick.com | 1 year update on the ThinkPad X1 Yoga laptop – Adventures in Linux and KDE | May 21 19:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | sbp: 0/ | May 21 19:19 |
| psydroid | <techrights-bot "#ibm new building "Looks like Ea"> I know former colleagues of mine who work at IBM Poland in Wroclaw. IBM also contacted me for a job there, but fortunately it never materialised and I got a job at another company a few months later. | May 21 19:22 |
| sbp | hi schestowitz__ | May 21 19:22 |
| schestowitz__ | psydroid: they are everywhere | May 21 19:22 |
| sbp | I arrived here because I found http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200521.txt via the blog post which links to it, which I found as techrights is the only mirror in Google hosting the PDF that rasengan posted to the freenode website | May 21 19:24 |
| sbp | on reading the log, I found many interesting things, but the one that stood out the most was the information that rasengan and tomaw are preparing a joint statement. does anybody here, including rasengan himself perhaps, have any more information about that? | May 21 19:25 |
| schestowitz__ | I wish to know too | May 21 19:25 |
| techrights-bot | "Dino, packaged as dino-im in Debian, is an #XMPP chat client. Thanks to the hard work of its developers, Dino has been making progress on supporting video and audio calls." #debian #gnu #linux https://writefreely.debian.social/taowa/video-calling-in-dino-in-experimental-oh-my | May 21 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-writefreely.debian.social | Video calling in Dino in experimental, oh my! — taowa r. | May 21 19:27 | |
| techrights-bot | The #LibreOffice Calc Guide 7.1 is Here! • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151439 #freesw #odf #TuxMachines | May 21 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The LibreOffice Calc Guide 7.1 is Here! | Tux Machines | May 21 19:28 | |
| techrights-bot | #Nemo Mobile brings Glacier UX to the #PinePhone and other Linux handhelds • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151438 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nemo Mobile brings Glacier UX to the PinePhone and other Linux handhelds | Tux Machines | May 21 19:28 | |
| techrights-bot | #opensuse Tumbleweed: #KDE Gear, GTK, Btrfs Update in Tumbleweed • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151437 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Gear, GTK, Btrfs Update in Tumbleweed | Tux Machines | May 21 19:28 | |
| schestowitz__ | sbp: "Currently, tomaw and I have been working on a joint announcement. It's really late where he's at so he's sleeping right now." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200521.html#tMay%2020%2000:52:39 | May 21 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Thursday, May 20, 2021 | May 21 19:30 | |
| sbp | I suppose we'll see it when we see it | May 21 19:30 |
| sbp | I may have some insight for you regarding this: | May 21 19:30 |
| sbp | "he’s an American and we lack evidence that he bears any resemblance to Trump" | May 21 19:31 |
| sbp | http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/freenode-facts/ | May 21 19:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Freenode Users Exodus as Self-Fulfilling Prophecy Boosted by Those Looking to Gain | Techrights | May 21 19:31 | |
| sbp | I expect that Christine was confusing rasengan with the other Andrew Lee on Twitter, the latter of whom takes a very pro-Trumpian stance in his tweets | May 21 19:31 |
| schestowitz__ | I'm told another person with the same name supports Trump | May 21 19:31 |
| schestowitz__ | yes, wait... | May 21 19:31 |
| sbp | ah, I see the news has already reached you | May 21 19:31 |
| schestowitz__ | [17:29] <XRevan86> stormchaser3000: There's a Trumpist Andrew Lee who is Asian-looking. However, that's not the same Andrew Lee as in Freenode, Ltd. and PIA. | May 21 19:32 |
| XRevan86 | sbp: Yea, I said that earlier. | May 21 19:32 |
| sbp | apologies, I missed that | May 21 19:32 |
| schestowitz__ | [17:28] <schestowitz__> >> Andrew Lee as a "trumpist" a | May 21 19:32 |
| schestowitz__ | [17:28] <schestowitz__> "IF YOU SUPPORT FREENODE, YOU LITERALLY SUPPORT WHITE SUPREMACY!" | May 21 19:32 |
| schestowitz__ | but the myth moves fast | May 21 19:32 |
| schestowitz__ | calling him something bad | May 21 19:32 |
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| schestowitz__ | I saw the RMS hare going down like that | May 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | too | May 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | let me show you | May 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | a gallery of headlines... | May 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | https://stallmansupport.org/images/defamation.png | May 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | replace "jew" with "Korean" | May 21 19:33 |
| XRevan86 | sbp: The avatar is literally a photograph and the people couldn't even fact-check a face. | May 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | or "epstein" with "Trump | May 21 19:33 |
| sbp | I noticed that amongst my friends and other acquaintances on the server, their position on the political spectrum was strongly correlated with how likely they were to move to the alternative network | May 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | it's classism and stuff | May 21 19:33 |
| *sbp kept somewhat abreast of the rms situation, indeed | May 21 19:34 | |
| sbp | when he was asked about this in #freenode-staff-discussion, rasengan linked a media article that mentioned both him and the other Andrew Lee in the same sentence. but it was either overlooked or ignored; I don't recall a single person indicating that they understood the implication | May 21 19:35 |
| sbp | 20:25:47 <@rasengan> catgirl: 2 - https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto | May 21 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Handshake Revealed: VCs Back Plan to Give Away $100 Million in Crypto - CoinDesk | May 21 19:37 | |
| sbp | from https://paste.sr.ht/blob/4f5c7a6b3f6adb4697572f8cd77582fa16a123de | May 21 19:37 |
| techrights-bot | "Mighty Goose from Blastmode, MP2 Games and PLAYISM was announced recently ready for release on June 5. It looks incredible and it will be supported on #GNU #Linux ." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/mighty-goose-looks-like-a-stupidly-entertaining-colourful-run-and-gun-game | May 21 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mighty Goose looks like a stupidly entertaining colourful run and gun game | GamingOnLinux | May 21 19:37 | |
| -rasengan-[Global Notice] We are aware of the Libera Chat spambots and are working to address it. To help mitigate, please set umode +R to prevent non-registered nicks from messaging you. Thank you for your patience, and thank you for your support of freenode! | May 21 19:38 | |
| techrights-bot | #Qualcomm reveals tiny Linux-driven 5G NR chipset for IoT • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151440 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 19:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qualcomm reveals tiny Linux-driven 5G NR chipset for IoT | Tux Machines | May 21 19:39 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9605499/Microsoft-CEO-sticks-knife-Bill-Gates-affair-staff-member-revealed.html | May 21 19:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Microsoft CEO sticks knife into Bill Gates after affair with staff member was revealed | Daily Mail Online | May 21 19:40 | |
| baronhk[m]1 | From shaking hands with "Grab em by the pussy!" Trump to knifing Bill Gates for the same sort of behavior. | May 21 19:41 |
| techrights-bot | Tuxedo takes on Apple's MacBook with new 3K Linux laptop — equipped with Intel's latest 11th Gen CPU http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151387#comment-29720 #gnu #linux | May 21 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TUXEDO’s Latest Linux Laptop is All About the Screen | Tux Machines | May 21 19:43 | |
| schestowitz__ | baronhk[m]1: because politics | May 21 19:46 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway, it distracts from the real/bigger scandal | May 21 19:47 |
| techrights-bot | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151443 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 21 19:47 | |
| schestowitz__ | either way: | May 21 19:47 |
| schestowitz__ | 1) expect less "funded by Gates FOundation" fluff | May 21 19:47 |
| schestowitz__ | and | May 21 19:47 |
| schestowitz__ | 2) almost no more "bill says" puff pieces | May 21 19:47 |
| schestowitz__ | and that already removes some noticeable proportion of noise-as-news | May 21 19:48 |
| techrights-bot | #Games: Driver 2, Mighty Goose, and Busy Beaver • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151442 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Driver 2, Mighty Goose, and Busy Beaver | Tux Machines | May 21 19:48 | |
| techrights-bot | #ClearLinux Offers Up Advantages For Ice Lake Xeon, #CentOS Comes In Strong • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151441 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clear Linux Offers Up Advantages For Ice Lake Xeon, CentOS Comes In Strong | Tux Machines | May 21 19:48 | |
| techrights-bot | #techrights already warned about (and attempted to prevent) #freenode chaos 8 days ago http://techrights.org/2021/05/13/private-internet-access-and-freenode/ | May 21 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Andrew Lee of Private Internet Access/London Trust Media Increasingly Owns and Controls Freenode (Updatedx2) | Techrights | May 21 19:55 | |
| techrights-bot | #OpenHardware /Modding: Seeed Studio, Arduino, #Pinebook Pro • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151447 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: Seeed Studio, Arduino, Pinebook Pro | Tux Machines | May 21 20:12 | |
| techrights-bot | #XMPP /Dino in #Debian , #LibreWolf in Debian-based Sparky, and Next Firefox • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151446 #TuxMachines | May 21 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | XMPP/Dino in Debian, LibreWolf in Debian-based Sparky, and Next Firefox | Tux Machines | May 21 20:12 | |
| techrights-bot | #Standards / #Consortia Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151445 #TuxMachines | May 21 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Standards/Consortia Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 21 20:12 | |
| techrights-bot | #Security and #ProprietarySoftware • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151444 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines | May 21 20:12 | |
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| techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151449 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 21 20:24 | |
| techrights-bot | Videos and Shows: Plasma, Sonic Robo Blast 2, and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151448 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos and Shows: Plasma, Sonic Robo Blast 2, and More | Tux Machines | May 21 20:25 | |
| techrights-bot | Links 21/5/2021: #TuxedoInfinity Book Pro 14 and #Qualcomm Putting Linux on Chips • ፕቿርዘዪጎኗዘፕነ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/qualcomm-putting-linux-on-chips/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/21/qualcomm-putting-linux-on-chips/ | May 21 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/5/2021: Tuxedo Infinity Book Pro 14 and Qualcomm Putting Linux on Chips | Techrights | May 21 20:25 | |
| techrights-bot | The EPO's War on #Justice and Assault on the #Law -- Part 16 will be published tomorrow morning. #epo #corruption #coverup | May 21 20:29 |
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| techrights-bot | #RHEL 8.4 released and here is #HowTo upgrade 8.3 to 8.4 - nixCraft ⇨ https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/rhel-8-4-released-update-upgrade-8-3-to-8-4/ •●• #cyberciti | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/21/#latest | May 21 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cyberciti.biz | RHEL 8.4 released and here is how to upgrade 8.3 to 8.4 - nixCraft | May 21 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | May 21 20:38 | |
| techrights-bot | #HowTo Install #Lumina Desktop on Ubuntu - Linux Hint ⇨ https://linuxhint.com/install-lumina-desktop-on-ubuntu/ •●• #LinuxHint #GNU #Linux 🐧 | May 21 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | How to Install Lumina Desktop on Ubuntu – Linux Hint | May 21 20:39 | |
| schestowitz__ | AVRS: any updates? | May 21 20:41 |
| schestowitz__ | things seems to be settling down somewhat, I hope... | May 21 20:42 |
| XRevan86 | "any updates?" – on what? | May 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz__ | you know.. | May 21 20:43 |
| schestowitz__ | . | May 21 20:43 |
| schestowitz__ | I saw haiku left | May 21 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | ah | May 21 20:43 |
| schestowitz__ | but little apart from it | May 21 20:43 |
| schestowitz__ | that was 2 days ago | May 21 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | They left to OFTC, right? | May 21 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | yea | May 21 20:43 |
| downey[i] | XRevan86: https://www.haiku-os.org/news/2021-05-19_haiku_is_moving_to_oftc/ | May 21 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.haiku-os.org | Haiku's IRC channels are moving to OFTC! | Haiku Project | May 21 20:44 | |
| schestowitz__ | yes, I saw that | May 21 20:44 |
| schestowitz__ | I've noticed some censorship in matrix lately | May 21 20:45 |
| schestowitz__ | also github, reddit, parler now back only conditionally | May 21 20:45 |
| schestowitz__ | but it's not a "wing" thing | May 21 20:45 |
| schestowitz__ | many treat speech like "passing fed" | May 21 20:45 |
| schestowitz__ | it's the new "woke" or "hip" thing | May 21 20:45 |
| schestowitz__ | as if speech is the same as violence | May 21 20:45 |
| schestowitz__ | if people plan insurrection on parler, that's one thing | May 21 20:46 |
| AVRS | no updates | May 21 20:46 |
| schestowitz__ | but now with things like "coc" and "hate speech" it extends to new territories | May 21 20:46 |
| MinceR | https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wkumari-not-a-draft-13 | May 21 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-datatracker.ietf.org | draft-wkumari-not-a-draft-13 | May 21 20:47 | |
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| lockeanarchist | schestowitz__: Matrix is becoming like the fediverse, unfortunately | May 21 20:54 |
| techrights-bot | 20 or 10 years ago the #gnu #linux world had far fewer dimensions of divisive politics in the community. I blame corporations for interjecting that, as well as #corporateMedia (keeping us divided and untrusting of people around us, potential allies). | May 21 20:55 |
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| techrights-bot | If you are willing to fight fellow developers over the use of the string "master" in a git repo but not fight over things like Military Contractors disguised as "Big Tech", then something is wrong and you've been conned | May 21 20:56 |
| lockeanarchist | they ban ppl, ppl self-host and they ban the instances | May 21 20:56 |
| lockeanarchist | they ban ppl, ppl self-host and then they ban the instances | May 21 20:56 |
| schestowitz__ | [20:54] <lockeanarchist> schestowitz__: Matrix is becoming like the fediverse, unfortunately | May 21 20:57 |
| schestowitz__ | that is enough for me to know we can remain 'on' Matrix only via bridges | May 21 20:57 |
| schestowitz__ | baronhk[m]1 was banned by them | May 21 20:57 |
| schestowitz__ | over something relatively innocuous, iirc | May 21 20:57 |
| schestowitz__ | [20:56] <lockeanarchist> they ban ppl, ppl self-host and then they ban the instances | May 21 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | diaspora has been more forthcoming in that regard, I rarely hear about banned instances | May 21 20:58 |
| lockeanarchist | The problem with these schisms is that or you participate to a woke instance or you participate from a "freespeech" instance | May 21 20:59 |
| schestowitz__ | "you have the right of speech... to speak freely in your own auditorium.., the pathway to which we'll obstruct" | May 21 20:59 |
| lockeanarchist | if you self host and RT someone from a "freespeech" instance is possible that woke instances ban you | May 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz__ | BTW | May 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz__ | RSS | May 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz__ | same issue | May 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz__ | IF | May 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz__ | you rely on planets and other aggregators | May 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz__ | the aggregators become chokepoints with "masters" | May 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz__ | and then can cut you off without anyone noticing | May 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz__ | hubs like Google News are the same | May 21 21:01 |
| schestowitz__ | they're filters | May 21 21:01 |
| lockeanarchist | it is sad that the best middle ground is becoming proprietary things like Telegram. But I always delete my account | May 21 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Telegram isa joke | May 21 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | some 'open' clients | May 21 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | no e2ee | May 21 21:03 |
| lockeanarchist | Durov broke his promise, he said that he would open the backend | May 21 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | prorprietary server side | May 21 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | cooperation with governments | May 21 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | and censorship I've heard, almost in every country | May 21 21:03 |
| lockeanarchist | I don't care about E2EE if the backend is open and safe | May 21 21:03 |
| lockeanarchist | but now they are indefensable | May 21 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | Durov also said his staff was being corrupted for access | May 21 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | e2ee would still be needed | May 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz__ | because you do not know what binaries they deploy | May 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz__ | and when/where | May 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz__ | either willingly or by accident | May 21 21:04 |
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| schestowitz__ | like moles | May 21 21:04 |
| lockeanarchist | Telegram says that their clients are reproducible | May 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz__ | e2ee takes care of that | May 21 21:04 |
| lockeanarchist | Never verified it | May 21 21:05 |
| schestowitz__ | lockeanarchist: people get them from stores controlled by NSA companies | May 21 21:05 |
| schestowitz__ | it only takes a few bit flips to break | May 21 21:05 |
| schestowitz__ | like lowering entropy | May 21 21:05 |
| lockeanarchist | My problem with telegram is that Durov broke his promise because he wants to lock in people inside his platform | May 21 21:06 |
| XRevan86 | Does anyone here trust Durov? | May 21 21:06 |
| lockeanarchist | I trust him more than Facebook and that's it | May 21 21:06 |
| lockeanarchist | not that high | May 21 21:06 |
| XRevan86 | lockeanarchist: That's fair. | May 21 21:07 |
| lockeanarchist | maybe google too | May 21 21:07 |
| techrights-bot | #LinuxMint 20.1 Ulyssa Install Guide - If Not True Then False ⇨ https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2021/linux-mint-install-guide/ •●• #if-not-true-then-false | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/21/#latest | May 21 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.if-not-true-then-false.com | Linux Mint 20.1 Ulyssa Install Guide – If Not True Then False | May 21 21:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | May 21 21:08 | |
| techrights-bot | #HowTo Self-Host Using #Bitwarden - Linux Hint ⇨ https://linuxhint.com/self-host-using-bitwarden/ •●• #LinuxHint #GNU #Linux 🐧 | May 21 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | How to Self-Host Using Bitwarden – Linux Hint | May 21 21:09 | |
| lockeanarchist | The problem with telegram is that they promise safety but when you see it's just a "bro, trust me". They need just to be honest with their users | May 21 21:09 |
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| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151450 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 21 21:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | lockeanarchist: see what happened to them in Iran | May 21 21:12 |
| schestowitz__ | 1-2 years ago | May 21 21:12 |
| lockeanarchist | schestowitz__: to be fair it happened with a alternative client called "Telegram gold" | May 21 21:13 |
| lockeanarchist | not with the official one | May 21 21:13 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▇▆▆▇▅▄▅▇▅▇▃▄▅▅▆▅▃▂▇▅▆▆▄▃▁▄▇▄▅▆▄▁ avg(k/sec) 26.36 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▂▂▃▂▂▁▃▂▂▁▂▂▂▃▂▇▂▂▃▁▂▁▁▃▁▂▂▃▃▁ avg(k/sec) 52.18▕ swarm size (avg): 225.89 ⟲ | May 21 21:15 |
| schestowitz__ | never heard of it | May 21 21:17 |
| schestowitz__ | sounds like the dodgy "freemium" model | May 21 21:17 |
| schestowitz__ | "use our shit, buy our gold" | May 21 21:17 |
| lockeanarchist | schestowitz__: Telegram is officially blocked on Iran, government agents created tampered telegram clients with "bundled vpn" and people installed it | May 21 21:22 |
| schestowitz__ | seems like almost 6,000 people have downloaded the PDF rasengan wrote, at least from our server | May 21 21:22 |
| lockeanarchist | Telegram Gold was one of them | May 21 21:22 |
| lockeanarchist | *in iran | May 21 21:22 |
| techrights-bot | #antiX 19.4 available • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151451 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | antiX-19.4 available | Tux Machines | May 21 21:22 | |
| schestowitz__ | I guess project leaders had some disquiet over the situation | May 21 21:23 |
| schestowitz__ | over something that's not as big as they were led to think | May 21 21:23 |
| techrights-bot | "Just like previous titles developed in-house by the teams at PDS, it looks like it will once again be supporting #GNU #Linux with it setup on Steam ready to have Linux system requirements once again (once they're finalised, it's all "TBC" right now)." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/paradox-interactive-finally-announces-the-hotly-anticipated-victoria-3 | May 21 21:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Paradox Interactive finally announces the hotly anticipated Victoria 3 | GamingOnLinux | May 21 21:25 | |
| techrights-bot | "Them's Fightin' Herds is a wonderful fighting game that came to #GNU #Linux officially recently, and with the 2.1.0 update that's out now it looks graphically better than ever." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/thems-fightin-herds-looks-better-than-ever-with-the-hd-upgrade-out-now | May 21 21:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Them's Fightin' Herds looks better than ever with the HD upgrade out now | GamingOnLinux | May 21 21:25 | |
| search_social | 19:59:10 <+lockeanarchist> The problem with these schisms is that or you participate to a woke instance or you participate from a "freespeech" instance | May 21 21:26 |
| search_social | qoto.org is a good instance | May 21 21:26 |
| techrights-bot | "...hopefully it will continue the tradition of #GNU #Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/multiple-paradox-titles-free-to-play-this-weekend-along-with-a-big-sale-for-pdxcon | May 21 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Multiple Paradox titles free to play this weekend along with a big sale for PDXCON | GamingOnLinux | May 21 21:27 | |
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| lockeanarchist | search_social: cool, thanks for the suggestion. looks like a good middle ground | May 21 21:30 |
| techrights-bot | #gemlogging of microblogging over #GeminiProtocl i.e. gemini:// https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006538.html #freesw #internet | May 21 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Lace format Formally Re: [users] Introducing gemthought, a format for micro gemlogging | May 21 21:30 | |
| techrights-bot | #Games : Crusader Kings III, Victoria 3, Them’s Fightin’ Herds, PDXCON • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151452 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Crusader Kings III, Victoria 3, Them's Fightin' Herds, PDXCON | Tux Machines | May 21 21:30 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm #redhat say you need to replace or shuffle around the buzzword and hype for "success" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/5/agile-strategy-tips how about... hiring better engineers? Nope. [meme: man thrown out the window] | May 21 21:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Agile: How to make your strategy succeed | The Enterprisers Project | May 21 21:31 | |
| schestowitz__ | search_social: it can go offline | May 21 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | lots of quicksands on the web these days | May 21 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | more so than the internet | May 21 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | but dns still poses a threat | May 21 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | ISPs less so | May 21 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | never heard of people being disconnected for objectionable speech | May 21 21:33 |
| schestowitz__ | not in 'civilised' countries anyway | May 21 21:33 |
| schestowitz__ | in some countries they just kidnap you and put you in a cell without even a phone, so it's irrelevant what the ISP does | May 21 21:33 |
| techrights-bot | Stability plus innovation: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.4 is now GA https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/stability-plus-innovation-red-hat-enterprise-linux-84-now-ga #rhel #ibm #redhat #gnu #linux | May 21 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Stability plus innovation: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.4 is now GA | May 21 21:34 | |
| techrights-bot | #RedHat announced Developer Sandbox and new solutions to help get started with #Kubernetes https://sdtimes.com/softwaredev/red-hat-announced-developer-sandbox-and-new-solutions-to-help-get-started-with-kubernetes/ create/introduce complexity, then offer management-as-a-service (to manage this complexity) | May 21 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sdtimes.com | Red Hat Developer Sandbox Latest News | May 21 21:37 | |
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| techrights-bot | #Linux 5.13 Release Candidate 3 Fixes 37 Patches From Banned University http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150248?page=1#comment-29721 | May 21 21:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s Why University of Minnesota is Likely to be Banned from Contributing to Linux Kernel Code | Tux Machines | May 21 21:42 | |
| techrights-bot | I wonder, will postdocs and students at University of Minnesota (UMN) sue their colleges/universities for compelling them to carry out sabotage to earn degrees, totally destroying their names (and employment/career prospects) in the process? Whose idea was it? Supervisor/advisor? #kernel #linux | May 21 21:45 |
| techrights-bot | Best File #Encryption Apps for #GNULinux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151453 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best File Encryption Apps for Linux | Tux Machines | May 21 21:49 | |
| techrights-bot | #Perl 5.34.0 released https://lwn.net/Articles/856926/rss #programming | May 21 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Perl 5.34.0 released [LWN.net] | May 21 21:51 | |
| techrights-bot | #GNU #Linux in the Ham Shack (LHS) Episode #413: The Weekender LXXII https://lhspodcast.info/2021/05/lhs-episode-413-the-weekender-lxxii-2/ | May 21 21:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #413: The Weekender LXXII | Linux in the Ham Shack | May 21 21:53 | |
| techrights-bot | #openSUSE #Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2021/20 http://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2021/05/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2021-20/ #suse #gnu #linux | May 21 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dominique.leuenberger.net | openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2021/20 – Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) | May 21 21:54 | |
| techrights-bot | #IBM / #RedHat : Release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.4 and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151454 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat: Release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.4 and More | Tux Machines | May 21 21:54 | |
| techrights-bot | #SiFive #HiFive Unmatched #RISCV Developer Boards Begin Shipping - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SiFive-HiFive-Unmatched-Ships •●• #Phoronix 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/21/#latest | May 21 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SiFive HiFive Unmatched RISC-V Developer Boards Begin Shipping - Phoronix | May 21 21:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | May 21 21:57 | |
| techrights-bot | Stop using #DuckDuckGo ... it's just #surveillance of #microsoft in 'privacy' (false, a lie) clothing. | May 21 21:59 |
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| techrights-bot | #Foamin is a novel sensing method for detecting deformable gestures with conductive foam | Arduino Blog ⇨ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/05/21/foamin-is-a-novel-sensing-method-for-detecting-deformable-gestures-with-conductive-foam/ •●• #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | May 21 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Foamin is a novel sensing method for detecting deformable gestures with conductive foam | Arduino Blog | May 21 22:02 | |
| techrights-bot | $99 SBC runs Linux on #RISCV based #Allwinner D1 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151456 #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $99 SBC runs Linux on RISC-V based Allwinner D1 | Tux Machines | May 21 22:03 | |
| techrights-bot | #CSIRO ’s #seL4 project shut down • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151455 #TuxMachines http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/CSIRO | May 21 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CSIRO's seL4 project shut down | Tux Machines | May 21 22:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | CSIRO - Techrights | May 21 22:03 | |
| techrights-bot | #XDC2021 Goes Virtual Again As Annual #Wayland / Mesa / #XOrg Summit - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=XDC2021-Is-Virtual •●• #Phoronix #Kernel | May 21 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-XDC2021 Goes Virtual Again As Annual Wayland / Mesa / X.Org Summit - Phoronix | May 21 22:06 | |
| techrights-bot | #NVIDIA 470 Series To Be The Last Supporting GTX 600/700 Series Kepler - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-470-Ends-Kepler •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/21/#latest | May 21 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA 470 Series To Be The Last Supporting GTX 600/700 Series Kepler - Phoronix | May 21 22:06 | |
| techrights-bot | #Dutch #DigitalAutonomy must be based on #FreeSoftware and Open Standards • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151457 #freesw #TuxMachines | May 21 22:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dutch Digital Autonomy must be based on Free Software and Open Standards | Tux Machines | May 21 22:07 | |
| opal | freenode no longer has sigyn's configs | May 21 22:08 |
| opal | mailservers are evidently no longer configured either | May 21 22:08 |
| schestowitz__ | sigyn? | May 21 22:12 |
| MinceR | antispam bot | May 21 22:12 |
| schestowitz__ | was that removed? | May 21 22:13 |
| MinceR | still seems to be connected | May 21 22:13 |
| MinceR | other than that, i don't know | May 21 22:13 |
| opal | < Ariadne> literally, sigyn's config was wiped | May 21 22:13 |
| opal | its just a bot that does nothing now | May 21 22:14 |
| MinceR | great | May 21 22:14 |
| schestowitz__ | wiped off things like ips and stuff? | May 21 22:14 |
| schestowitz__ | or the code itself wiped? | May 21 22:14 |
| schestowitz__ | does it retain a list of offenders? | May 21 22:14 |
| opal | whatever filters were in place i guess | May 21 22:14 |
| opal | sigyn uses heuristics to kill people off | May 21 22:14 |
| schestowitz__ | "hey hi" | May 21 22:14 |
| schestowitz__ | that's what media calls it now | May 21 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | opal: Oh, that donor machine pulling wiped the anti-spam too? | May 21 22:15 |
| schestowitz__ | no backups or stacks of dumps with configs still intact? | May 21 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | who's the sponsor that did that, by the way? | May 21 22:15 |
| opal | unsure | May 21 22:15 |
| opal | doubt it was a public server in the first place | May 21 22:15 |
| techrights-bot | Linux Plumbers Conference: Scheduler Microconference Accepted into 2021 Linux Plumbers Conference https://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/blog/2021/index.php/2021/05/20/scheduler-microconference-accepted-into-2021-linux-plumbers-conference/ #linux #kernel | May 21 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxplumbersconf.org | Scheduler Microconference Accepted into 2021 Linux Plumbers Conference – Linux Plumbers Conference 2021 | May 21 22:17 | |
| techrights-bot | "In the Cockpit team we recently started to generate and export metrics about our CI, and collect/graph them by a Red Hat internal Prometheus and Grafana instance. But I am not happy with this yet, as it does not yet answer all the questions that we have for it. Also, it is not accessible outside of Red Hat." https://piware.de/post/2021-05-21-learning-metrics/ | May 21 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-piware.de | Deploying Prometheus/Grafana, learning metrics · Martin Pitt | May 21 22:18 | |
| techrights-bot | The #Apache News Round-up: week ending 21 May 2021 https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up227 #freesw | May 21 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.apache.org | The Apache News Round-up: week ending 21 May 2021 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog | May 21 22:19 | |
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| schestowitz__ | opal: better to sort it all out before, not during, an attack | May 21 22:21 |
| schestowitz__ | we only recently figured out how to make tuxmachines robust to nasty floods | May 21 22:21 |
| schestowitz__ | after 3 months of pain and downtimes | May 21 22:21 |
| opal | well if you want to help out freenode in combating spam with what you know, im sure it'd be welcome | May 21 22:22 |
| schestowitz__ | I lack experience with irc daemons | May 21 22:23 |
| opal | if not you then anyone capable | May 21 22:23 |
| schestowitz__ | i did some openfire but that was it | May 21 22:23 |
| opal | mm | May 21 22:23 |
| schestowitz__ | irc is an important skills | May 21 22:23 |
| schestowitz__ | more so if it is becoming rare and hard to find | May 21 22:23 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR might know bits and bobs | May 21 22:23 |
| schestowitz__ | and maybe could use a gig | May 21 22:24 |
| MinceR | not that much, sadly | May 21 22:24 |
| schestowitz__ | I'd vouch for him, but not sure if he did backend irc things (I never did) | May 21 22:24 |
| MinceR | i saw how the spamfilter works in unreal today, which is neat | May 21 22:24 |
| MinceR | i've done very little on the ircd side so far | May 21 22:24 |
| schestowitz__ | kaniini wrote a daemon | May 21 22:24 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: But kaniini also left | May 21 22:25 |
| techrights-bot | #RHEL 8.4 Released With Tiger Lake Graphics, Expanded #eBPF Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151454#comment-29723 #redhat | May 21 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat: Release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.4 and More | Tux Machines | May 21 22:27 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: I doubt that she'll help. | May 21 22:28 |
| techrights-bot | #Wine 6.9 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151458 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 22:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.9 | Tux Machines | May 21 22:30 | |
| opal | yeah she wants no part in freenode operations | May 21 22:31 |
| opal | focused more on alpine these days | May 21 22:31 |
| techrights-bot | "My Day job has me messing around with QT5. We’re building various RPMs for different RHEL and CentOS versions, and I wanted to get a little more experience on this. Specifically, I wanted to be able to do trial and error on a package that would not pollute our work stream." http://adam.younglogic.com/2021/05/upgrading-qgo-to-qt5/ | May 21 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adam.younglogic.com | Upgrading QGo to QT5 | Adam Young’s Web Log | May 21 22:32 | |
| techrights-bot | " #Fedora Linux 32 will reach end of life on Tuesday 25 May. Elections voting is open through 3 June." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2021-20/ | May 21 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2021-20 – Fedora Community Blog | May 21 22:33 | |
| XRevan86 | opal: And moving the Alpine's channels to OFTC of course. | May 21 22:33 |
| MinceR | oftc seems to be having trouble with spam as well | May 21 22:33 |
| opal | lol | May 21 22:33 |
| opal | oftc and spam havent changed i guess | May 21 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | [22:31] <opal> focused more on alpine these days\ | May 21 22:34 |
| opal | i went hard on that network back in the day | May 21 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | alpine is doing very well | May 21 22:34 |
| MinceR | kinky | May 21 22:34 |
| opal | half of them probably still hate me | May 21 22:34 |
| opal | i know tomaw doesnt trust me | May 21 22:34 |
| opal | oftc had garbage antispam | May 21 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | I need to read up more on them | May 21 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | esp. who runs it and how it's governed | May 21 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | servers don't run on air | May 21 22:35 |
| opal | move to efnet | May 21 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | the cloud doesn't run on gas | May 21 22:35 |
| opal | problem solved | May 21 22:35 |
| MinceR | lol | May 21 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | someone needs to pay for and run servers | May 21 22:36 |
| opal | on efnet we all know the opers are shit | May 21 22:36 |
| opal | the servers are shit | May 21 22:36 |
| MinceR | run a botnet to keep ops on the channel | May 21 22:36 |
| opal | the channels are shit | May 21 22:36 |
| MinceR | run another botnet to keep my nick | May 21 22:36 |
| opal | chanfix has u covered | May 21 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | they have this Utopian idea of IRC just operating from a vacuum and being politics-free | May 21 22:36 |
| MinceR | or not | May 21 22:36 |
| opal | jupes are less common now unless you actively piss some groups off | May 21 22:36 |
| opal | i know the people juping my nick fucked off by now | May 21 22:36 |
| MinceR | "CHANFIX is an EFnet service that can sometimes give back ops when you lose all ops or get taken over by outsiders." (emphasis mine) | May 21 22:37 |
| MinceR | what a glowing recommendation. | May 21 22:37 |
| opal | i.e. under certain conditions | May 21 22:37 |
| opal | normal operation yeah it gives you ops as appropriate | May 21 22:37 |
| MinceR | at least they're honest about it, unlike +R on ircnet | May 21 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | lol "sometimes" | May 21 22:37 |
| opal | better than ircnet's services | May 21 22:37 |
| opal | which are: literally nothing | May 21 22:37 |
| opal | yeah | May 21 22:37 |
| opal | safechans are a joke | May 21 22:38 |
| opal | rest of the world moved to timestamping | May 21 22:38 |
| MinceR | ircnet is a joke | May 21 22:38 |
| opal | ^ | May 21 22:38 |
| opal | something we all can agree on | May 21 22:38 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 22:38 |
| opal | got my channel there taken over by splitriding italians lmao | May 21 22:39 |
| MinceR | lol | May 21 22:39 |
| opal | fuckin mafia | May 21 22:39 |
| opal | theyve upped their game | May 21 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | I got death threats from one | May 21 22:39 |
| opal | loool | May 21 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | not funny to me | May 21 22:39 |
| opal | sorry | May 21 22:39 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: i think i've pretty firmly burnt my bridge to libera | May 21 22:39 |
| MinceR | how? | May 21 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | I was told to report to the police, but never bothered | May 21 22:39 |
| opal | i dont take much online seriously so i just laugh | May 21 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | he had an old home address of mine | May 21 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | from icann iirc | May 21 22:40 |
| opal | ah yeah thats different | May 21 22:40 |
| opal | ive only received empty death threats | May 21 22:40 |
| schestowitz__ | CrystalMath: good | May 21 22:40 |
| opal | i imagine if someones threatening to come to my house | May 21 22:40 |
| opal | well, god bless the second amendment, right | May 21 22:40 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: i closed my channel there and now people are told to go to freenode | May 21 22:40 |
| MinceR | :) | May 21 22:40 |
| CrystalMath | the one that i had "expanded" as just an outpost, it still linked to freenode in the topic | May 21 22:40 |
| schestowitz__ | yay | May 21 22:40 |
| CrystalMath | i will also release ##techrights | May 21 22:41 |
| CrystalMath | CrystalMath Channel Holding Services, LLC is officially defunct | May 21 22:41 |
| schestowitz__ | did anyone utter something there? | May 21 22:41 |
| CrystalMath | i lost a friend over this | May 21 22:41 |
| schestowitz__ | CrystalMath: try SexRights | May 21 22:41 |
| schestowitz__ | LLC | May 21 22:41 |
| CrystalMath | someone i knew for 8 years | May 21 22:41 |
| CrystalMath | but he really likes ex-freenode staff, i don't know why | May 21 22:41 |
| schestowitz__ | I liked christel | May 21 22:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I lost track of who among staff helped me when I needed things set up or channel configs | May 21 22:42 |
| schestowitz__ | tomaw was ok (still is, afaik) | May 21 22:42 |
| opal | i can name the staff who klined me and the staff who helped me | May 21 22:43 |
| opal | heavy overlap between the two | May 21 22:43 |
| opal | lol | May 21 22:43 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 22:43 |
| schestowitz__ | rasengan: "Currently, tomaw and I have been working on a joint announcement. It's really late where he's at so he's sleeping right now." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200521.html#tMay%2020%2000:52:39 | May 21 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Thursday, May 20, 2021 | May 21 22:43 | |
| schestowitz__ | any update on this? | May 21 22:43 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz__: ##techrights on libera dropped | May 21 22:43 |
| schestowitz__ | hopefully nobody spoke there | May 21 22:43 |
| CrystalMath | nope | May 21 22:44 |
| CrystalMath | it was constantly empty | May 21 22:44 |
| CrystalMath | i just squatted it :P | May 21 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | also, setting up such channels helps them perpetuate this idea people flock over | May 21 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | and can cause panic | May 21 22:44 |
| CrystalMath | yeah | May 21 22:44 |
| CrystalMath | it's gone | May 21 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | like Microsoft keeping deleted github accounts | May 21 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | I deleted mine before they announced the takeover | May 21 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | there was nothing of use in that account, it was a placeholder for work (employer) | May 21 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | [22:41] <CrystalMath> CrystalMath Channel Holding Services, LLC is officially defunct | May 21 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe Andrew wants to buy the assets ;-) | May 21 22:45 |
| opal | lol | May 21 22:46 |
| CrystalMath | the assets have been liquidated, and have a value of $0.00 | May 21 22:46 |
| schestowitz__ | codeplex too | May 21 22:46 |
| schestowitz__ | thrown in the mix free of charge | May 21 22:46 |
| schestowitz__ | like MSN Spaces offloaded onto WordPress/Automattic | May 21 22:46 |
| schestowitz__ | and googlecode | May 21 22:46 |
| schestowitz__ | CrystalMath: going once, going twice... sold to Roy... for no money! | May 21 22:47 |
| *schestowitz__ pours : #techrights @ libra down some river | May 21 22:47 | |
| CrystalMath | yes but i don't exactly have anything... yeah | May 21 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | *libera | May 21 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | libra as a word was ruined by Facebook | May 21 22:48 |
| CrystalMath | i call it irc.liberal.crap sometimes, but you won't like that joke | May 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | liberal is also a dying term | May 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | because it means something corproate | May 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | like HRC "liberal" or Obama | May 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | people on the left aren't attentive | May 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | in the UK we have "liberal" democrats | May 21 22:49 |
| trttl | hrt liberal | May 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | who make coalitions to boost Cameron and his fellow crooks | May 21 22:49 |
| opal | yeah because all sjws are trannies right | May 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | there are very few trans overall (in the world) | May 21 22:49 |
| XRevan86 | opal: Ye definitely won't win kaniini over with that. | May 21 22:49 |
| psydroid | it may be worth digging into the interests behind libera.chat | May 21 22:50 |
| opal | im trans and kaniini knows me full well | May 21 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | liberals is some label that refers to like half the population in the US | May 21 22:50 |
| MinceR | "liberal" was stripped of meaning like so many other political terms | May 21 22:50 |
| XRevan86 | opal: Oh, never mind then :D | May 21 22:50 |
| opal | lol | May 21 22:50 |
| opal | shes on my network rn | May 21 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: in hungary that was maybe reduced to "not Orban" | May 21 22:50 |
| MinceR | in hungary, everyone who disagrees with the gypsy king is "left liberal" | May 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz__ | Tyson Viktor Fury | May 21 22:51 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The Human Rights Campaign (LGBT PAC) lost over two thirds of its members and more or less collapsed over endorsing Hillary in 2016. | May 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: and also "Soros shill" | May 21 22:52 |
| schestowitz__ | baronhk[m]1: she had opposed gay marriage | May 21 22:52 |
| baronhk[m]1 | They kept saying Bernie would lose to Trump and we'd suffer disastrous setbacks. So they helped Clinton, she lost, and we suffered a disaster. | May 21 22:52 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 21 22:52 |
| MinceR | also, "Gyurcsany" | May 21 22:52 |
| schestowitz__ | she didn't even have to say ANYTHING | May 21 22:52 |
| baronhk[m]1 | Illinois passed gay marriage a long time before the court rulings. The Marriage Equality and Religious Fairness Act. | May 21 22:53 |
| baronhk[m]1 | The Religious Fairness part was basically they don't have to officiate if they don't like it. | May 21 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | to sway the election you now need a group a few millions in size | May 21 22:54 |
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| schestowitz__ | trans voters are probably as many as say... "Vietnamese-Americans" | May 21 22:54 |
| MinceR | does the US have a concept of nonreligious marriage? | May 21 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | yes | May 21 22:55 |
| schestowitz__ | civil marriage | May 21 22:55 |
| MinceR | good | May 21 22:55 |
| schestowitz__ | same as in most of EU | May 21 22:55 |
| schestowitz__ | rianne and I had civil service | May 21 22:55 |
| MinceR | though it would be better if the state got out of marriage entirely | May 21 22:55 |
| schestowitz__ | municipalities do that | May 21 22:56 |
| schestowitz__ | then you can certify with states | May 21 22:56 |
| schestowitz__ | or natiosn | May 21 22:56 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz__: all done, akick set up, disconnected from the network, friends permantnly lost | May 21 22:58 |
| CrystalMath | a thousand curses upon tomaw for doing this | May 21 22:58 |
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| techrights-bot | 7 best practices to ensure your CI/CD pipeline's #security https://searchitoperations.techtarget.com/tip/7-best-practices-to-ensure-your-CI-CD-pipelines-security | May 21 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchitoperations.techtarget.com | 7 best practices to ensure your CI/CD pipeline's security | May 21 23:00 | |
| techrights-bot | Old: #ibm #monopoly with #patents thrown in the mix https://lwn.net/Articles/382350/ | May 21 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM and the labors of TurboHercules [LWN.net] | May 21 23:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | CrystalMath: what did he do? | May 21 23:03 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz__: he decided to stop talking to me forever because i stick with freenode | May 21 23:03 |
| schestowitz__ | as a whole you mean? | May 21 23:03 |
| CrystalMath | oh, tomaw? | May 21 23:03 |
| CrystalMath | tomaw for starting this mess | May 21 23:03 |
| schestowitz__ | so I don't suppose a joint statement from him and Andrew is still in the making | May 21 23:03 |
| CrystalMath | tomaw quit, so no | May 21 23:03 |
| CrystalMath | later that day | May 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz__ | balkanisation of free software comms | May 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz__ | great stuff | May 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz__ | some people I can no longer pm | May 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz__ | inc. kaniini | May 21 23:04 |
| CrystalMath | terrible | May 21 23:04 |
| CrystalMath | i just wanted all my friends to stay here at least | May 21 23:04 |
| CrystalMath | but one was sadly lost | May 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe will come back | May 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz__ | can be on both | May 21 23:04 |
| CrystalMath | he said he won't ever talk to me again | May 21 23:05 |
| CrystalMath | because i support freenode instaed of irc.liberal.crap | May 21 23:05 |
| MinceR | is having multiple irc networks "balkanisation"? | May 21 23:05 |
| MinceR | i think it's competition | May 21 23:05 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: if people quit one, that's a problem | May 21 23:05 |
| schestowitz__ | lol Rob Enderle: "The Windows 21H1 update, and why I won’t miss Windows 10X" | May 21 23:05 |
| schestowitz__ | He still writes? In IDG now... | May 21 23:05 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: and they seem to be at war | May 21 23:05 |
| schestowitz__ | Still shilling Microsoft | May 21 23:05 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: irc.liberal.crap is still spreading bullcrap stories about PIA | May 21 23:06 |
| schestowitz__ | [23:05] <MinceR> i think it's competition | May 21 23:06 |
| CrystalMath | and they've sent some spammers here too | May 21 23:06 |
| schestowitz__ | yes, that's the 'upside' | May 21 23:06 |
| MinceR | if you mean the spambots, i doubt those have to do with either network | May 21 23:06 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: there was spam here | May 21 23:07 |
| CrystalMath | on some channels | May 21 23:07 |
| CrystalMath | and the spammers are spamming about irc.liberal.crap | May 21 23:07 |
| techrights-bot | Rob Enderle in #IDG ... Still shilling Microsoft. Still reaffirming what we've long said about him. #microsoft #enderle #fakeAnalyst | May 21 23:08 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: even on LunarIRC we got them! | May 21 23:08 |
| MinceR | i could start a spam botnet and spam people with saying nice things about you, that wouldn't make you guilty of spamming | May 21 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Of course they do, that's what called an инфоповод | May 21 23:08 |
| MinceR | today i found out it's called a "Joe job" | May 21 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | infocause literally | May 21 23:09 |
| XRevan86 | And that spam damages reputation of both networks. | May 21 23:11 |
| baronhk[m]1 | As long as you do it before the license to marry expires. | May 21 23:11 |
| baronhk[m]1 | <schestowitz__ "yes"> Legally it's the same whether it's a judge or a religious figure officiating. | May 21 23:11 |
| XRevan86 | Freenode for failing to combat spam, Libera Chat for trying to tie it with unsolicited messages, illegal materials, racism, etc. | May 21 23:11 |
| techrights-bot | #Monopolies #apple https://www.streetinsider.com/General+News/Apple+App+Store+profits+look+disproportionate%2C+U.S.+judge+tells+CEO+Cook/18456617.html | May 21 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.streetinsider.com | Apple App Store profits look 'disproportionate,' U.S. judge tells CEO Cook | May 21 23:11 | |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Can ye reference someone from the Libera Chat staff writing negative things about PIA related to this whole thing? | May 21 23:13 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▁▆▄▄▆▃▄▃▁▃▄▅▆▄▅▁▃▅▆▆▆▅▃▄▇▅▆▅▆▇▄▅▅▆▇▅▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 22.76 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▁▂▂▁▂▅███▃▃▁▁▁▂▃▂▃▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 67.45▕ swarm size (avg): 225.95 ⟲ | May 21 23:15 |
| techrights-bot | #politics #corruption https://www.politico.com/newsletters/morning-tech/2021/05/21/facebook-backed-group-adds-former-lawmakers-795463 | May 21 23:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook-backed group adds former lawmakers - POLITICO | May 21 23:15 | |
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| CrystalMath | XRevan86: well you know i wanted to back that up with something but, when i did a /who there, i found only one person who is staff and that guy said nothing | May 21 23:17 |
| CrystalMath | amdj@libera/staff/amdj | May 21 23:17 |
| CrystalMath | i have no clue who that is | May 21 23:17 |
| techrights-bot | Low Cost #RaspberryPi Alternative #RISCV Board Starts Crowdfunding • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151459 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | May 21 23:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Low Cost Raspberry Pi Alternative RISC-V Board Starts Crowdfunding | Tux Machines | May 21 23:17 | |
| CrystalMath | well it says: Aaron Jones | May 21 23:17 |
| CrystalMath | but i have no clue who that is :P | May 21 23:17 |
| CrystalMath | i don't remember that person from freenode | May 21 23:18 |
| CrystalMath | like, at all | May 21 23:18 |
| MinceR | they were on freenode | May 21 23:18 |
| CrystalMath | tbh the fact that i'm not seeing the names of the ones i consider horrible (fuchs, jess) is somewhat weird | May 21 23:18 |
| XRevan86 | > amdj — Services developer, WireGuard mailing list moderator & channel operator, networking & crypto nerd | May 21 23:18 |
| MinceR | hm, actually i'm not sure | May 21 23:19 |
| MinceR | what i do know is that they did sign the anti-RMS letter | May 21 23:19 |
| CrystalMath | ah | May 21 23:19 |
| CrystalMath | screw him then | May 21 23:19 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 21 23:19 |
| CrystalMath | (he has a male symbol next to his name, i presume that means he/him pronouns) | May 21 23:19 |
| MinceR | could be | May 21 23:20 |
| MinceR | i don't particularly care | May 21 23:20 |
| techrights-bot | #techrepublic now posting #Forrester spam. Likely sponsored (paid-for) crap, just like in other sites. These 'analysts' are sellouts with market price: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Forrester | May 21 23:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Forrester - Techrights | May 21 23:21 | |
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| techrights-bot | Shallow BS from 'economists' (pseudo 'science') that speak of "productivity growth" (another baloney) and then attributes that to vague, nebulous buzzwords: "cloud computing and artificial intelligence" https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/how-to-solve-the-puzzle-of-missing-productivity-growth/ | May 21 23:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.brookings.edu | How to solve the puzzle of missing productivity growth | May 21 23:23 | |
| techrights-bot | #Asus #TinkerBoard 2S Review • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151460 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #debian #gnu #linux | May 21 23:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Asus Tinker Board 2S Review | Tux Machines | May 21 23:24 | |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz__: the head of staff of libera.chat is a signatory of the anti-RMS list | May 21 23:24 |
| CrystalMath | number #11, all the way high up | May 21 23:24 |
| MinceR | neil mcgovern, from oftc, is even above the organizations list | May 21 23:26 |
| schestowitz__ | isn't it alphabetic? | May 21 23:27 |
| MinceR | same as mjg59 | May 21 23:27 |
| schestowitz__ | I can do a search on the git repo | May 21 23:27 |
| schestowitz__ | I have it in /tmp | May 21 23:27 |
| schestowitz__ | and see when he was added | May 21 23:27 |
| MinceR | there's a separate list for "more important" individuals who signed it | May 21 23:27 |
| schestowitz__ | what's the username | May 21 23:27 |
| MinceR | then the organizations, and then the "less important" individuals | May 21 23:27 |
| MinceR | i didn't check for shithub usernames, but you can probably do git blame on the website | May 21 23:28 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: the list of "bullies for hire" | May 21 23:28 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 21 23:28 |
| schestowitz__ | "hire me" | May 21 23:28 |
| schestowitz__ | "Aaron Jones" | May 21 23:29 |
| schestowitz__ | are you sure | May 21 23:29 |
| schestowitz__ | 1) this is the same person | May 21 23:29 |
| schestowitz__ | and 2) this is the head? | May 21 23:30 |
| schestowitz__ | "head of staff " | May 21 23:30 |
| schestowitz__ | where does "head of staff" come from? | May 21 23:31 |
| schestowitz__ | if it's just one admin of many, he's not the only one | May 21 23:31 |
| *XRevan86 hasn't seen the list of the Libera Chat staff. | May 21 23:32 | |
| MinceR | all i've got from the latter are /who libera/staff/* outputs | May 21 23:32 |
| MinceR | only oftc seems to advertise the list of their people | May 21 23:32 |
| MinceR | a bit strange | May 21 23:33 |
| MinceR | i'd have thought SJWs were proud of what they did | May 21 23:33 |
| schestowitz__ | $ git log --format= -n 2 $(git log -1 --pretty=format:"%h") | cat - | May 21 23:33 |
| schestowitz__ | Revert "add signature" (#2564) | May 21 23:33 |
| schestowitz__ | Revert #1685 (#2563) | May 21 23:33 |
| schestowitz__ | Per https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/pull/2556#issuecomment-827846792 | May 21 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Add FSF response by ehashman · Pull Request #2556 · rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io · GitHub | May 21 23:33 | |
| MinceR | fleeing the sinking ship? | May 21 23:35 |
| psydroid | and the spammers are spamming about irc.liberal.crap <- this is starting to look like "spammers <3 freenode" while they are trying to kill it | May 21 23:35 |
| XRevan86 | Spammers don't really care though. | May 21 23:36 |
| techrights-bot | "In this boomer vlog, I go a lengthy rant about why working at home sucks and why I've recently rented an office for creating video content. I first started looking for some office space last summer, but a series of natural disasters derailed those plans until now." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4MlERohcnU | May 21 23:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Working At Home Sucks. Moving Into An Office. - YouTube | May 21 23:37 | |
| XRevan86 | they'll poke every hole, every ange. | May 21 23:37 |
| XRevan86 | angle | May 21 23:37 |
| psydroid | those spammer slaves have masters too | May 21 23:43 |
| opal | current staff already doing a shit job interfacing with users on here | May 21 23:45 |
| opal | psydroid theyre hitting all networks not just fn | May 21 23:45 |
| opal | theres nothing conspiratory about it other than causing shit on irc | May 21 23:45 |
| opal | MinceR join #libera there and then run /who | May 21 23:46 |
| techrights-bot | Improving Application Security with UndefinedBehaviorSanitizer (UBSan) and #GCC https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/improving-application-security-with-undefinedbehaviorsanitizer-ubsan-and-gcc | May 21 23:47 |
| MinceR | they're not necessarily all online at the same time | May 21 23:47 |
| opal | normally they idle | May 21 23:48 |
| opal | there was a "people" page on freenode.net, maybe same will be on libera's site | May 21 23:48 |
| schestowitz__ | opal: thanks for keeping the place going! much appreciated. | May 21 23:49 |
| opal | i feel like i have to try *something* | May 21 23:50 |
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| opal | as much as i dislike whats going on and have concerns with how things will plan out long term | May 21 23:50 |
| opal | seeing shit like... | May 21 23:50 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm "The next round of layoffs is scheduled for the week of 5/24. So heads up. I would suspect it will be mostly GTS employees in that round to right size the spin-off to Benadryl… is sorry Kyndryl!!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aWJp96w#replies | May 21 23:51 |
| opal | <sorcerer> Message me again when I'm not on the stats p list or expect a ban. This is your final warning. | May 21 23:51 |
| opal | that | May 21 23:51 |
| opal | like, no | May 21 23:51 |
| opal | fuck off with that | May 21 23:51 |
| opal | dont tell users here that | May 21 23:51 |
| MinceR | lol | May 21 23:51 |
| trttl | kek | May 21 23:51 |
| MinceR | well, there are other networks | May 21 23:51 |
| opal | indeed | May 21 23:51 |
| techrights-bot | "They should have set their HQ in Alabama or Arkansas… that way they would have had a leg up on their expenses…" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aSKWqYe#replies but #ibm managets spend big... on themselves: https://www.theregister.com/2021/03/17/ibm_exec_payouts/ | May 21 23:52 |
| opal | sorcerer et al think theyre still on rizon or whatever | May 21 23:52 |
| techrights-bot | "For sure the layoffs will not only continue but increase. The next round is coming next week , week of 5/24. The company will have no more that 200-225K employees by the end of Q1 2022." #ibm #redhat https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aXWweHP#replies | May 21 23:53 |
| MinceR | if they said shit like that to me on rizon, i wouldn't take it any better | May 21 23:53 |
| opal | why do you think i dont care for rizon lol | May 21 23:53 |
| schestowitz__ | [23:50] <opal> i feel like i have to try *something* | May 21 23:53 |
| schestowitz__ | heh, whatever you did... | May 21 23:54 |
| schestowitz__ | bot restarted | May 21 23:54 |
| opal | yeah thats a lot of people's feelings toward me lol | May 21 23:54 |
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| opal | some people want me to burn it all down but i dont have it in me really | May 21 23:54 |
| opal | few years ago i would have | May 21 23:54 |
| opal | i know people who can burn it down and ill stay out of whatever their plans are | May 21 23:54 |
| schestowitz__ | burning things is easy | May 21 23:55 |
| opal | yeah | May 21 23:55 |
| schestowitz__ | you start a little flame | May 21 23:55 |
| opal | fun for a short while | May 21 23:55 |
| schestowitz__ | making things is hard | May 21 23:55 |
| schestowitz__ | and takes much effort | May 21 23:55 |
| opal | goes out after a bit | May 21 23:55 |
| schestowitz__ | don't burn things | May 21 23:55 |
| opal | i take that philosophy these days yeah | May 21 23:55 |
| opal | its for the better | May 21 23:55 |
| schestowitz__ | techrights depends a lot on IRC | May 21 23:55 |
| schestowitz__ | and we use that ex | May 21 23:55 |
| schestowitz__ | to expose wrongdoing | May 21 23:55 |
| opal | oh right you were on pleroma.site before it went down, right | May 21 23:56 |
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| schestowitz__ | yeah | May 21 23:56 |
| opal | did you migrate or something | May 21 23:56 |
| schestowitz__ | I spent over a month chatting to is admin | May 21 23:56 |
| schestowitz__ | 'href | May 21 23:56 |
| schestowitz__ | opal: I gave up on fediverse | May 21 23:56 |
| opal | ah yeah | May 21 23:56 |
| opal | href's chill | May 21 23:56 |
| schestowitz__ | 3 accounts lost is enough fediverse for me | May 21 23:56 |
| opal | i see | May 21 23:56 |
| opal | haha fair | May 21 23:56 |
| schestowitz__ | 3 strikes and all | May 21 23:56 |
| opal | yeah instances come and go still | May 21 23:57 |
| schestowitz__ | I won't run my own | May 21 23:57 |
| opal | gonna be like that for a while | May 21 23:57 |
| schestowitz__ | though kaniini developed something for me | May 21 23:57 |
| opal | im planning to set up a "real" instance | May 21 23:57 |
| schestowitz__ | and then gave up on the project | May 21 23:57 |
| opal | crowdfunded one | May 21 23:57 |
| opal | it'll go along with the rest of the services on https://volatile.bz/ | May 21 23:57 |
| schestowitz__ | social control media is a waste of time | May 21 23:57 |
| schestowitz__ | too volatile and noisy | May 21 23:57 |
| schestowitz__ | bad UI | May 21 23:57 |
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