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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896Jan 27 02:54
schestowitzSorry, Doc Edward Morbius, if you found me repetitive or obnoxious. I cannot export my data, have not been able for years (exactly same symptoms as described above by Pavithran S), and moreover I think letting the domain just rot would be devastating for a whole plethora of reasons.Jan 27 02:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@podmin@joindiaspora.com: # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via [hq@feneas.org](mailto:hq@feneas.org). You can find the original post below or via https://git.feneas.org/feneas/Jan 27 02:54
schestowitzI will try to reach out to fellow users like Glyn Moody and contact Lukas directly, by email.Jan 27 02:54
schestowitzSubmitting bug reports in a proprietary Microsoft site won’t do much good at this stage. It’s a token ‘solution’.Jan 27 02:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt · master · Feneas / association · GitLabJan 27 02:54
schestowitzIf enough of us can pay a monthly sum to Lukas, maybe he can keep this going. If not, maybe we can find others who can inherit the account. I’m willing to learn from some ‘cheatsheert’ and work with others to preserve the legacy and take it forward.Jan 27 02:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt · master · Feneas / association · GitLabJan 27 02:54
schestowitzLukas has done a MASSIVE service to so many of us. He’s not the problem and he shouldn’t be treated like some “support/customer service” department.Jan 27 02:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | Feneas · GitLabJan 27 02:54
schestowitzIf I get any meaningful updates, I will follow up here.Jan 27 02:54
schestowitzPlease contact me on roy at schestowitz dot com if you wish to join handed financially and/or technically to keep this wonderful community (and domain) going.Jan 27 02:54
schestowitzAgain. don’t be harsh on Lukas. He does not owe us anything, we owe a lot to him!Jan 27 02:54
schestowitzfurther context, archived:Jan 27 02:54
schestowitz"Jan 27 02:54
schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius - about 5 hours agoJan 27 02:54
schestowitz@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) You’re simply repeating yourself without providing new information. I find that annoying, and suspect others on the thread do likewise.Jan 27 02:54
schestowitzIf you earnestly think you can run the service yourself, then make arrangements to do so. Otherwise, you’re trying to organise a collective effort among multiple parties on behalf of others (present users of the system), with a present operator who is AWOL and not responding to inquiries or requests.Jan 27 02:54
schestowitzFiling a bug against Diaspora* over your inability to export your profile data on GitHub would be the Free Software thing to do:Jan 27 02:54
schestowitzhttps://github.com/diaspora/diasporaJan 27 02:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | GitHub - diaspora/diaspora: A privacy-aware, distributed, open source social network.Jan 27 02:54
schestowitzgooblerJan 27 02:54
schestowitzgoobler - about 4 hours agoJan 27 02:55
schestowitz    Filing a bug against Diaspora* over your inability to export your profile data on GitHub would be the Free Software thing to do:Jan 27 02:55
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schestowitz    https://github.com/diaspora/diasporaJan 27 02:55
schestowitzNo it wouldn’t, because the problem is with the administration of the JD.com pod, not a bug in the export feature in Diaspora’s code. Only the podmin of JD.com can fix it.Jan 27 02:55
schestowitzDoc Edward MorbiusJan 27 02:55
schestowitzDoc Edward Morbius - about 4 hours agoJan 27 02:55
schestowitzI’ve opened that issue on GitHub:Jan 27 02:55
schestowitzUnable to successfully complete profile export data #8334Jan 27 02:55
schestowitzhttps://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/issues/8334Jan 27 02:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | Unable to successfully complete profile export data · Issue #8334 · diaspora/diaspora · GitHubJan 27 02:55
schestowitzI’ve done so on behalf of those who claim to be unable to export data. I don’t have insights on the issue myself.Jan 27 02:55
schestowitzI strongly encourage @Pavithran S and @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) to provide additional relevant information to that issue.Jan 27 02:55
schestowitz@podmin@joindiaspora.com / Lukas Matt is also strongly encouraged to assist, both in diagnosing the issue and in applying an update if provided.Jan 27 02:55
schestowitz>sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartenderJan 27 02:55
schestowitz>sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender - about 4 hours agoJan 27 02:55
schestowitzhave you guys tried refreshing the page? I repat myseld but for me it did the trick!Jan 27 02:55
schestowitzPavithran SJan 27 02:55
schestowitzPavithran S - about 4 hours agoJan 27 02:55
schestowitzI tried this so many times, it shows this.Jan 27 02:55
schestowitzenter image description hereJan 27 02:55
schestowitzLater if I refresh page it doesn’t even show that I have requested export and still gives me the export button.Jan 27 02:55
schestowitz>sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartenderJan 27 02:55
schestowitz>sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender - about 4 hours agoJan 27 02:55
schestowitzah, I also did it seperately, just dowload the pics and give it another try. if nothing changes after refreshing give it another minute.Jan 27 02:55
schestowitzgooblerJan 27 02:55
schestowitzgoobler - about 3 hours agoJan 27 02:55
schestowitz@Pavithran S and @>sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender, frustrating as it is for you, it’s possible that each time you try the download button again, it sends the server into another load attempting to process your archives. It might be that the first archive attempt is still processing and that the server is now attempting to process multiple archives for each of you, which will be slowing everything down. I don’t know that that is the case, but I Jan 27 02:55
schestowitzthink it would be worth waiting for a good amount of time – maybe a week or more, as neither of you need to download your archive before late March.Jan 27 02:55
schestowitzPeluzaJan 27 02:55
schestowitzPeluza - about 3 hours agoJan 27 02:55
schestowitz@Pavithran S I think the restriction is on a user basis, i.e. I believe the server is configured so that no single user operation exceeds ‘x’ amount of seconds and ‘y’ amount of ram. Then when the server tries to fetch all your data it is exceeding one of those amounts and aborts the operation… I have seen that problem many many times…Jan 27 02:55
schestowitzI don’t believe there is any way to fix that if the admin does not cooperate, however i would indeed try to do it when the traffic is less in case the restriction is not user basisJan 27 02:55
schestowitz>sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartenderJan 27 02:55
schestowitz>sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender - about 3 hours agoJan 27 02:55
schestowitz    which will be slowing everything downJan 27 02:55
schestowitzthat’s why I suggested to just refresh the page, and as I also said before it worked very well for me, I had no issues at all.Jan 27 02:55
schestowitzPeluzaJan 27 02:55
schestowitzPeluza - about 3 hours agoJan 27 02:55
schestowitzAnd by the way, my account was created in 2011 and I perfectly downloaded my data (but it is very small compared to any of you)Jan 27 02:55
schestowitzPeluzaJan 27 02:55
schestowitzPeluza - about 3 hours agoJan 27 02:55
schestowitzI have another great idea, you might try to fetch the data from the mobile web interface, i.e. by using the browser of your mobile phone (in mobile mode). Maybe the limit is not implemented from the mobile view.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzDoc Edward MorbiusJan 27 02:56
schestowitzDoc Edward Morbius - about 3 hours agoJan 27 02:56
schestowitzFWIW, denschub (denschub@pod.geraspora.de) has closed the GitHub issue.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzIf another repo contributor could re-open it, through at least 1 March 2022 when JoindiasporaCom is planned to go offline, I’d appreciate it.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzI’d also strongly appreciate those with data export issues contributing to that report.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzDoc Edward MorbiusJan 27 02:56
schestowitzDoc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours agoJan 27 02:56
schestowitzFurther, denshchub has locked the issue.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzIf you’ve got actionable information, open a new issue.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzgooblerJan 27 02:56
schestowitzgoobler - about 2 hours agoJan 27 02:56
schestowitz    If another repo contributor could re-open it, through at least 1 March 2022 when JoindiasporaCom is planned to go offline, I’d appreciate it.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzPlease don’t do that. As explained, this is an issue with the administration of the JD.com pod (possibly server load), not a bug in the Diaspora core code-base. Opening another ticket will not help and is just noise/spam.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzI appreciate your frustration with the current state of the JD.com pod, but hassling the developers of the core Diaspora code will not help you. JD.com has been in a more or less broken state since at least 2012, if not earlier. Those are historical issues unique to that pod, and are not caused by the current Diaspora code.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzDoc Edward MorbiusJan 27 02:56
schestowitzDoc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours agoJan 27 02:56
schestowitz@goobler Is there any insight you could provide on the nature of taht broken state and how it was or was not communicated to either members or the Diaspora* community at large?Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzI’ve been a member of JoindiasporaCom since May of 2012, and this is the first acknowledgement of this fact I’ve heard, ever.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzPeluzaJan 27 02:56
schestowitzPeluza - about 2 hours agoJan 27 02:56
schestowitz@Doc Edward Morbius can you see my profile picture? I can’t either and there was a picture in there for sure. In the same way many of the pictures in my posts disappeared for no reason (some of them are public and you can see it)… Those are the problems @goobler is talking about.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzDoc Edward MorbiusJan 27 02:56
schestowitzDoc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours agoJan 27 02:56
schestowitz@Peluza No, you’re a “greyhead”.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzJoindiasporaCom has had a number of issues with losing image data over the years. My own avatar was lost at at least one point, I’ve cycled through a few variants over the years.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzIs it just the image data loss then? Because that was pretty recent — 2021 AFAIR, not back in 2012.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzDoc Edward MorbiusJan 27 02:56
schestowitzDoc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours agoJan 27 02:56
schestowitz@Peluza Here’s the thread I recall, from four months ago: https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/11fede30078a013ac833002590d8e506Jan 27 02:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.glasswings.com | #Joindiaspora and #Sechat had certificate issues. As a result both ...Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzgooblerJan 27 02:56
schestowitzgoobler - about 2 hours agoJan 27 02:56
schestowitz    Is there any insight you could provide on the nature of that broken state and how it was or was not communicated to either members or the Diaspora* community at large?Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzWell, it was originally set up as a test pod for the founders to ‘move fast and break things’ and actually ran on a fork of the main code-base for the first few years at least (there used to be a joindiaspora fork in the Github repo), on which Maxwell and other founders could write bespoke code. The enormous number of accounts signed up to that pod in the first few weeks in September 2000 always caused problems because the code in the alpha Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzstage wasn’t able properly to cope with such load, and when the code improved later, there were still residual problems with that pod. Admins of that pod have, over the years, performed a number of database hacks to try to improve responsivity, but this seems to have caused further problems. It has never been a really well functioning pod.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzThere was a very long-running Github issue about the problems with that pod, although I can’t remember its title and I can’t find it at the moment. There was certainly plenty of discussion within the Diaspora network over the years about the problems with the pod – that’s how I knew about it, and why I moved to another pod in 2012, because my account on JD.com wasn’t federating properly with the rest of the network – although there was Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzprobably never an announcement about this from the admins of the pod. Keep in mind that as of 27 August 2012, JD.com was no longer an ‘official project pod’, but just another community-run pod operated by a volunteer (Maxwell to start with, and then Lukas).Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzDoc Edward MorbiusJan 27 02:56
schestowitzDoc Edward Morbius - about an hour agoJan 27 02:56
schestowitz@goobler I suspect you meant 2010, not 2000.Jan 27 02:56
schestowitzOtherwise, thanks.Jan 27 02:57
schestowitzgooblerJan 27 02:57
schestowitzgoobler - 30 minutes agoJan 27 02:57
schestowitz    I suspect you meant 2010, not 2000.Jan 27 02:57
schestowitzI did; that was a typo.Jan 27 02:57
schestowitz"Jan 27 02:57
schestowitzmeJan 27 02:57
schestowitz"Jan 27 02:57
schestowitzHi, Lukas,Jan 27 02:57
schestowitzThank you for the many years of great service! Sorry to see you treated a tad harshly by some.Jan 27 02:57
schestowitzI've contacted fellow JD users. Would you in theory consider a handover of the site to a bunch of us "old geezer" who have used the site since the early days? Jan 27 02:57
schestowitzRegards,Jan 27 02:57
schestowitz"Jan 27 02:57
schestowitz"Jan 27 03:13
schestowitzFor anyone keeping score, mail to mailto:feneas@friendica.feneas.org is presently bouncing.Jan 27 03:13
schestowitzI believe mailto:incoming+feneas-association-8-issue-@git.feneas.org fails silently.Jan 27 03:13
schestowitzBoth are listed on the @podmin@joindiaspora.com account as contacts.Jan 27 03:13
schestowitzThat leaves mailto:lukas@matt.wf as the only address I’m aware of as working in recent memory.Jan 27 03:14
schestowitz(I’d included all three on an email in relation to issues raised over data export in this thread.)Jan 27 03:14
schestowitzMichael FenichelJan 27 03:14
schestowitzMichael Fenichel - 4 minutes agoJan 27 03:14
schestowitzJust as a fly on the wall (getting a lot of notices, and truly, I understand the urgency)… It seems to me that some person(s) do not want to be contacted!Jan 27 03:14
schestowitzA pity. I see so much talent and collective willingness to contribute, and… (silence)Jan 27 03:14
schestowitz"Jan 27 03:14
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schestowitz"Jan 27 04:02
schestowitz@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) Thanks, I think our messages just crossed.Jan 27 04:02
schestowitzFollow-up by email.Jan 27 04:02
schestowitz"Jan 27 04:02
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schestowitz   <li>Jan 27 11:17
schestowitz        <h5><a href="https://fossforce.com/2022/01/learn-about-blender-and-maybe-get-a-free-book-whats-not-to-like/">Learn About Blender and Maybe Get a Free Book – What’s Not to Like?</a></h5>Jan 27 11:17
schestowitz        <blockquote>Jan 27 11:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fossforce.com | Learn About Blender and Maybe Get a Free Book - What's Not to Like? - FOSS ForceJan 27 11:17
schestowitz          <p>From what I glean from my Twitter feed, where anything tweeted about Blender gets tons of likes and retweets, there’s an online event coming up that plenty of people are going to want to attend — and one of them might be you.</p></blockquote></li>Jan 27 11:17
schestowitz <li>Jan 27 11:18
schestowitz        <h5><a href="https://fossforce.com/2022/01/eff-asks-appeals-court-to-find-dmca-provisions-unconstitutional/">EFF Asks Appeals Court to Find DMCA Provisions Unconstitutional</a></h5>Jan 27 11:18
schestowitz        <blockquote>Jan 27 11:18
schestowitz          <p>The Electronic Frontier Foundation is taking the Digital Millennium Copyright Act to court. This is nothing new. EFF has been fighting selected aspects of the DMCA since before the act was passed in 1998.</p>Jan 27 11:18
schestowitz          <p>In this case, EFF is taking aim at provisions of the law that have in recent years become specifically problematic for the right-to-repair movement. These revolve around the DMCA’s Section 1201, which makes it illegal for users to find ways to bypass Digital Rights Management software to access copyrighted material, even when they legally own it.</p></blockquote></li>Jan 27 11:18
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schestowitzGlyn Moody (@glynmoody): "bad news about Diaspora - https:&#x2F;&#x2F;joindiaspora.com&#x2F;posts&#x2F;22282896 underlines again the lack of financial support for #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux projects; a big problem we are nowhere near solving... (v @schestowitz)" | nitter ⚓ https://nitter.eu/glynmoody/status/1486660076429524992 ䷉ #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/27/#latestJan 27 18:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | Glyn Moody (@glynmoody): "bad news about Diaspora - https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896 underlines again the lack of financial support for #opensource projects; a big problem we are nowhere near solving... (v @schestowitz)" | nitterJan 27 18:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJan 27 18:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896Jan 27 18:02
schestowitz"Jan 27 18:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@podmin@joindiaspora.com: # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via [hq@feneas.org](mailto:hq@feneas.org). You can find the original post below or via https://git.feneas.org/feneas/Jan 27 18:02
schestowitz    can you see my profile picture? I can’t either and there was a picture in there for sure.Jan 27 18:02
schestowitzSame here, my profile picture was also lost. I think it was a good reminder that the pod was dying. We as JD users must have been more proactive and rescued the pod or asked for solutions to move to pod. I personally saw that Diaspora project actively was implementing backup restore. Now my only wish is it should work and obviously a selfish desire to still have the old comments and friends I have discovered in this network.Jan 27 18:02
schestowitzIngmar S. Horn (vaxima)Jan 27 18:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt · master · Feneas / association · GitLabJan 27 18:02
schestowitzIngmar S. Horn (vaxima) - about 7 hours agoJan 27 18:02
schestowitzOMG, oh jeh :(Jan 27 18:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt · master · Feneas / association · GitLabJan 27 18:02
schestowitzPavithran SJan 27 18:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | Feneas · GitLabJan 27 18:03
schestowitzPavithran S - about 7 hours agoJan 27 18:03
schestowitz    it’s possible that each time you try the download button again, it sends the server into another load attempting to process your archives. It might be that the first archive attempt is still processing and that the server is now attempting to process multiple archives for each of you, which will be slowing everything down.Jan 27 18:03
schestowitzDear @podmin@joindiaspora.com @zauberstuhl Please clear/reset the queue so that we could download of our profile could happen.Jan 27 18:03
schestowitzGary HillJan 27 18:03
schestowitzGary Hill - 21 minutes agoJan 27 18:03
schestowitzThat is long overdue…Jan 27 18:03
schestowitz"Jan 27 18:03
schestowitzhttps://nitter.eu/0xFreak71/status/1486657027401306117  Jan 27 18:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | Τρομοκρατιστής✮ (@0xFreak71): "Systemd is 1M lines of corporate code which does nothing at all. s66, OpenRC, runit can do what is supposed missing from standard init (watch and restart services if needed) with only few lines of code. So, what debianoids want from us?" | nitterJan 27 18:03
schestowitzΤρομοκρατιστής✮ (@0xFreak71): "There are no excuses, US and EU created a fake hot situation, while they are established NAZI government before a few years. Everyone knows this hateful mafia government has no people support. The whole scene is a redicilus theatre for the western media." | nitter ⚓ https://nitter.eu/0xFreak71/status/1486654065345974280 ䷉ #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/27/#latestJan 27 18:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | Τρομοκρατιστής✮ (@0xFreak71): "There are no excuses, US and EU created a fake hot situation, while they are established NAZI government before a few years. Everyone knows this hateful mafia government has no people support. The whole scene is a redicilus theatre for the western media." | nitterJan 27 18:04
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schestowitzhttps://www.fosslife.org/3-open-source-training-courses-launched-linux-foundationJan 27 18:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.fosslife.org | 3 Open Source Training Courses Launched by Linux FoundationJan 27 18:17
schestowitz"Jan 27 18:17
schestowitzOpen source development skills are in demand, which is why the Linux Foundation has released three new training courses on the massive edX platform, reports Steven Vaughan-Nichols.Jan 27 18:17
schestowitzThe courses are: Jan 27 18:18
schestowitzOpen Source Software Development: Linux for Developers Jan 27 18:18
schestowitzLinux Tools for Software Development Jan 27 18:18
schestowitzGit for Distributed Software Development Jan 27 18:18
schestowitzThey can be taken individually or combined to earn a Professional Certificate in Open Source Software Development, Linux, and Git.Jan 27 18:18
schestowitzRead more at ZDNet.Jan 27 18:18
schestowitz"Jan 27 18:18
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schestowitzRe: SmokedJan 27 22:58
schestowitz>> https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1486509293230694403?s=21Jan 27 22:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@stautistic: @jhamby That may be true, but you also may be too emotional , too presumptuous, and too far out of your expertise i… https://t.co/8QETa1rYEkJan 27 22:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@stautistic: @jhamby That may be true, but you also may be too emotional , too presumptuous, and too far out of your expertise i… https://t.co/8QETa1rYEkJan 27 22:58
schestowitz>> <https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1486509293230694403?s=21>Jan 27 22:58
schestowitz>>Jan 27 22:58
schestowitz>> Jake is an idiot.Jan 27 22:58
schestowitz> Jan 27 22:58
schestowitz> He kept slandering me in public. SeeJan 27 22:58
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2020/02/20/no-back-doors-to-see-here-move-along/Jan 27 22:58
schestowitz> Jan 27 22:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Former Microsoft Employees Don’t Like Talking About Past and Present Microsoft Back Doors (Designed for Spy Agencies) | TechrightsJan 27 22:58
schestowitz> Re GMO, we covered that a lot about a decade ago, you can find manyJan 27 22:58
schestowitz> articles about this also inJan 27 22:58
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueJan 27 22:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - TechrightsJan 27 22:58
schestowitz> Jan 27 22:58
schestowitz> I don't think Jake is sinister, just misguided and not so pleasant toJan 27 22:58
schestowitz> debate.Jan 27 22:58
schestowitz> Jan 27 22:58
schestowitz> When he followed me it was mostly to throw snide remarks at me.Jan 27 22:58
schestowitz>> He’s a dunce who doesn’t seem to like using the left hemisphere of his brain outside of working hours. Jan 27 22:58
schestowitz>> Jan 27 22:58
schestowitz>> Imagine being so stupid that you see GMOs as a viable solution to anything. Yeah let’s make more billionaires off the food supply 🤣🤣Jan 27 22:58
schestowitzRe: Continuity and/or trasnfer of JoindiasporaComJan 27 23:02
schestowitz> Lukas, Fla, Roy, and any other FENEAS folks this might reach:Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> I'm hoping to get some useful action or at least clarity on continuingJan 27 23:02
schestowitz> operation of JoindiasporaCom given the impending shutdown date andJan 27 23:02
schestowitz> announcement.Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> I'm not sure if Jason Robinson is included at hq@feneas.org, if not heJan 27 23:02
schestowitz> might be a good add to this distribution list.Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> Roy Schestowitz is one of several people who've expressed some interestJan 27 23:02
schestowitz> in continuing operations of the pod. I believe Fla of diaspora-fr.org isJan 27 23:02
schestowitz> another.Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> I'm concerned that there appear to be few or no functional FENEAS emailJan 27 23:02
schestowitz> addresses, though at least hq@feneas.org hasn't bounced yet. TheJan 27 23:02
schestowitz> advertised feneas@friendica.feneas.org _did_ bounce as of a few minutes ago.Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> There are also concerns over being able to successfully create andJan 27 23:02
schestowitz> transfer profile data exports by at least two users, of whom Roy is one.Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> I've emailed Lukas on that separately.Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> I don't like volunteering people for roles, so won't. That said, ifJan 27 23:02
schestowitz> there is anyone else who would be willing, able, trustworthy, andJan 27 23:02
schestowitz> reliable enough to either operate (as a live site) or host (as a staticJan 27 23:02
schestowitz> archive) JoindiasporaCom, I'm open to suggestions.Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:02
schestowitz> What I'd like to see is actual progress rather than theoreticalJan 27 23:02
schestowitz> discussion, as seems to have been the extent of activity to date.Jan 27 23:02
schestowitzI have contacted Lukas on 3 email addresses that I have of his. Still no reply.Jan 27 23:02
schestowitzYes, this isn't theoretical, I'm willing to form a set of "heavy users" to take over and keep running the pod.Jan 27 23:02
schestowitzRe: Comments on JoindiasporaJan 27 23:04
schestowitz> Roy:Jan 27 23:05
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:05
schestowitz> Regarding my comments on the JoindiasporaCom thread on Diaspora*:Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> <https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/f605e81053c3013ae6b9002590d8e506>Jan 27 23:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.glasswings.com | Hello JoinDiasporaJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> <https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/f605e81053c3013ae6b9002590d8e506>>Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> Public discussions tend to get noisy fast. Few people are capable ofJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> understanding or responding effectively to issues. Keeping discussionsJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> productive and _not_ scaring the fish / horses, as they say, is an art.Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> I'm well aware of your views on Free Software (I share most of them) andJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> antipathy toward Microsoft (likewise).Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> The final days of an online service whose code and support are hosted onJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> a service that is not going to change on account of your views is a poorJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> time to fight a holy war. Repeating the same points numerous times,Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> likewise. It's far too easy to render communications confusing orJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> counterproductive. Please help avoid doing that.Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> If you're aware of export issues, *and* you can make a credible caseJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> that there's a Diaspora bug involved, the please, for your own good *andJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> the sake of others who can't begin to grasp the concept of source codeJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> or bugtracking systems*, file a bug in the Diaspora project at GitHubJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> giving as much detail as you can. If you've been aware of this for yearsJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> ... well, I just got tongue-lashed for being late to file and had someJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> curt words in response, but just between the two of us, speaking upJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> earlier might have helped a bit now.Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> I appreciate your interest in taking on JoindiasporaCom. I don't thinkJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> volunteering third parties without their awareness is a good look ----Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> I've reached out to Glyn Moody already simply to advise him that JD willJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> be shutting down (and haven't heard from him). If you're going to bringJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> up his name in public, do so _after_ you've talked to him about hisJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> role, not before. Might save both of you some embarassment.Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> I've included you on an email I've just sent to Lukas, Fla (I hope ---Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> I'm not positive of people's preferred contact info), and whomever isJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> answering hq@feneas.org. I'd strongly prefer _that_ disucssion remainJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> focused on continuity of JD.Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> Jan 27 23:06
schestowitz> I said I sympathise with many of your views. Your execution, which I'veJan 27 23:06
schestowitz> _also_ been familiar with over the years ... not so much. That said, oneJan 27 23:07
schestowitz> of the principles of volunteer organisations is that you work with theJan 27 23:07
schestowitz> material you've got, and you're amongst the few who're standing up. I doJan 27 23:07
schestowitz> hope you'll find the ability to be effective, despite my doubts.Jan 27 23:07
schestowitzI get your point. I really do.Jan 27 23:07
schestowitzBehind the scened I had been in touch with some people, inc. our own at Techrights and Glyn Moody. I'm just waiting for Lukas to say something like, "YES! I'm ready to arrange a handover of keys some time next month."Jan 27 23:07
schestowitzWhether we set up some org for this and whether we can handle it technically is another issue. First we need a reply.Jan 27 23:07
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