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r_schestowitzRMS:Oct 03 04:45
r_schestowitz> You can add notes in those articles to say which points you have corrected.Oct 03 04:45
r_schestowitz> That would correct the incorrect info without actual deletion of anything.Oct 03 04:45
r_schestowitzI will add notes at the top of these articles so say you want people to support the FSF, with link to the statement that you made.Oct 03 04:45
r_schestowitzSue to an incorrect login attempt I now on SSH block list. Can do I flush it or white list myself (TR/HV)?Oct 03 04:45
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r_schestowitzafter a little testing (I know it can be done more neatly) I think I have something which works OK for IRC logsOct 03 07:21
r_schestowitzI might upload that soon (scripts also)Oct 03 07:21
r_schestowitz> Thanks,Oct 03 07:24
r_schestowitz> There is a change in URL:Oct 03 07:24
r_schestowitz> https://neritam.wordpress.com/2019/10/01/things-we-miss-while-punishing-richard-stallman/Oct 03 07:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Things we miss while punishing Richard Stallman – neritamOct 03 07:24
r_schestowitzI have updated the URL in my notes and posts. The only link is now broken.Oct 03 07:24
r_schestowitz^^ new re RMSOct 03 07:24
r_schestowitzfrom Kerala, IIRCOct 03 07:24
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r_schestowitzFor a number of years I was mostly sceptical and dismissive of claims of a cultural takeover of technical projects through social causes; in light of more recent events, inc. RMS smears, I'm compelled to reassess. It can be talked about. It harms these social causes as they're misused.Oct 03 07:40
r_schestowitz(by people looking to steal power though them)Oct 03 07:40
oiaohmr_schestowitz:  some of this is the wild west nature of the internet is coming to the end.Oct 03 07:41
r_schestowitzI don't think soOct 03 07:41
oiaohmLegal system is basically catching up to the internet.Oct 03 07:41
r_schestowitzyou cannot police people to that levelOct 03 07:42
r_schestowitzsome of this pertains to conferences tooOct 03 07:42
oiaohmThat does not stop legal system from trying.Oct 03 07:42
r_schestowitzand prior to the Internet people made tasteless remarks tooOct 03 07:42
r_schestowitzSo it's not about the InternetOct 03 07:42
r_schestowitzThe Internet aspect of the lynch mobsOct 03 07:42
oiaohmtasteless remarks by people in enterprise positions outside the internet have seen them fired as well.Oct 03 07:43
r_schestowitznot just InternetOct 03 07:43
oiaohmHaving good technical grounds under law is not excuse for verbal abuse or being morally questionable in a management position.Oct 03 07:46
oiaohmThe change is not just the internet.   There have been some very old laws that effect those in management positions and other positions of power that have been ignored that were woken up to be enforceable.Oct 03 07:47
oiaohmr_schestowitz: remember lynch mobs also came a problem as the wild west in the USA ended.    We are going to see lynch mobs take credit for what happened due to legal world changes.   Then push forwards and most likely end up in legal hot water themselves.Oct 03 07:52
oiaohmHuman history repeats.Oct 03 07:52
r_schestowitzThe logs are now onlineOct 03 07:57
r_schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/irc-archives/Oct 03 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of /irc-archivesOct 03 07:57
r_schestowitze.g. the jgay debateOct 03 07:57
r_schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-011019.htmlOct 03 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Tuesday, October 01, 2019Oct 03 07:57
r_schestowitzwe'll try to post them daily from now on...Oct 03 07:57
r_schestowitz>> The logs are now onlineOct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz>> http://techrights.org/irc-archives/Oct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz>> e.g. the jgay debateOct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz>> http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-011019.htmlOct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz>>Oct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz>> we'll try to post them daily from now on...Oct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz>>Oct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz> Ok.Oct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz> Oct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz> BTW what is josh playing at?  He's been around long enough to know theOct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz> emnity that most business executives have been trained to have againstOct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz> him.  Back in the 1990s, it was about his attire.  They just couldn'tOct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz> wrap their heads around the fact that he did not wear a tie and kept theOct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz> focus on that so no one would notice that he was talking about SoftwareOct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz> Freedom and that it was beneficial even to the business community.Oct 03 08:15
r_schestowitzI wrote yesterday or the day before that... that they had run out of 'material', so started making stuff up.Oct 03 08:15
r_schestowitzIMHO, the attacks on him were faaaaar more several a decade ago. His image improved in recent years.Oct 03 08:15
r_schestowitzJosh is with EEE (you can see the IRC log online now). He has an issue with me not being corporate-friendly (I think that's in late Sept 30 IRC log... I'll produce older ones once we have confidence in these scripts). Oct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz> PS.  The old talking points about Free Software making it hard forOct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz> developers to get paid still gets circulation.  I heard it live recentlyOct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz> from a developer who has only ever developed in-house code and benefitsOct 03 08:15
r_schestowitz> daily from FOSS.  :/Oct 03 08:15
r_schestowitzWhat I and Rianne do for a living shows there's lots of money in FOSS because code needs handling and servicing. It can also be customised. People pay a lot for that.Oct 03 08:15
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r_schestowitz#techrights has begun the process of uploading IRC logs on a daily basis and some time soon there will be corresponding posts, maybe with highlights http://techrights.org/irc-archives/Oct 03 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of /irc-archivesOct 03 10:02
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r_schestowitzhiOct 03 10:48
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XRevan86https://layer8.space/users/killyourfm/statuses/102897116259013686 Microsoft ♡ LinuxOct 03 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-layer8.space | Jason "Alpaca" Evangelho: "Well, I got one answer..." - Layer8 in SpaceOct 03 12:14
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r_schestowitzthank, XRevan86Oct 03 12:22
r_schestowitzgood pointer, all I needed was this screenshotOct 03 12:22
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r_schestowitzhi david, dyfetOct 03 15:23
r_schestowitzslow news day, unless you know something about GNUOct 03 15:24
r_schestowitzHowever, you might want to see what Joshua Gay told usOct 03 15:24
r_schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-011019.htmlOct 03 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Tuesday, October 01, 2019Oct 03 15:24
r_schestowitzthe tl;dr is, some people want FSF to become another Linux FoundationOct 03 15:25
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dyfethi, I dont have any news, or gnus at the momentOct 03 15:36
dyfetbut looking now...Oct 03 15:37
dyfethmm...arm 32 being wiped out...well, there are so many low end devices and uses that dont need 64 bit.  I find it problematic that distros are skipping streight to risc-v 64, ignoring risc-v 32.  But let me catch up on the rest...Oct 03 15:39
dyfetbut I know that's not what you were asking about ;)Oct 03 15:42
r_schestowitzI try to look at the glass half fulOct 03 15:46
r_schestowitzI wrote something to that effectOct 03 15:46
r_schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/10/01/richard-stallman-and-the-fsf/Oct 03 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | My Personal Position on Richard Stallman and the FSF: Details Will Eventually Emerge, Information Will Set Us Free (as in Freedom) | TechrightsOct 03 15:46
r_schestowitz"Windows Server is being clobbered. So much so that Microsoft is being forced to pretend to be happy about it (the whole “love” spiel that Stallman disputes; see yesterday’s media coverage, appended below [1-4])"Oct 03 15:47
dyfetPeople use windows server?  there is no sane economic model for it...oh, that's the point and problem they have.Oct 03 15:49
dyfetSo now azure is a being presented as a cushy place for gnu/linux clouds lest they have no marketshare at all leftOct 03 15:50
dyfetthat I do getOct 03 15:50
r_schestowitza client of ours uses Windows ServerOct 03 15:50
r_schestowitzBut only one, among dozens of gnu/linux onesOct 03 15:50
r_schestowitzlast night it crapped itself, so I was happyOct 03 15:51
dyfetif i want to setup a web server, a rest api, a micro service, etc, none of these make sense on windows server.  It is too slow and heavy, as well as the cost.  It is really in this respect in particular, which is now the present and future, where they seem dead.Oct 03 15:52
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dyfetthough systemd may well equalize gnu/linux with windows server as crap in these areas.  it drags down a good and fast server into a bad and heavy one...Oct 03 15:53
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r_schestowitzdyfet: and then you need an IBM support contractOct 03 15:56
dyfetbingo.   As every real dev knows and understands we have got to get rid of that redhat (ibm) init that's making such a fuss...  Oct 03 16:01
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dyfeta "code of ethics" is different from a CoC, and the FSF always had one, it's embodied in the GNU manifesto and the 4 freedoms.Oct 03 16:06
r_schestowitzthere's also the lawOct 03 16:09
r_schestowitzdifferent countries, different lawsOct 03 16:09
r_schestowitzbut you can't for example just grope strangers or spread hateOct 03 16:09
r_schestowitzthe CoC isn't needed for enforcing thatOct 03 16:09
dyfetExactlyOct 03 16:09
dyfetBut this claim that organizations need a strong ethics, and that a CoC is needed for that, these are two seperate things, and the latter is well defined already in the FSFOct 03 16:11
r_schestowitzsharp tsoOct 03 16:11
r_schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/url?q=https://twitter.com/_sagesharp_/status/1042769399596437504%3Flang%3Den&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiy_bz9r4DlAhUjrXEKHZKbAc0QFjADegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw3e4z6zTggWpewefVdLT-vzOct 03 16:11
dyfet(former)Oct 03 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_sagesharp_: The new Code of Conduct explicitly says discrimination and harassment on the basis of sex or gender is not allowed… https://t.co/bDt17wLBTQOct 03 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_sagesharp_: The new Code of Conduct explicitly says discrimination and harassment on the basis of sex or gender is not allowed… https://t.co/bDt17wLBTQOct 03 16:11
r_schestowitzNotice similarity to RMS incidentOct 03 16:11
r_schestowitzthe whole "rape apologist" smearOct 03 16:11
r_schestowitzthose who do not agree get BLOCKEDOct 03 16:14
r_schestowitzclassic bully at workOct 03 16:14
r_schestowitzthese really horrible people try to fracture a development communityOct 03 16:15
r_schestowitzand not based on technical merits/viewsOct 03 16:15
r_schestowitzinstead along political linesOct 03 16:15
dyfetfrand is patent fraud.  "Fair and reasonable" to other large corporations only.  It forces serfdom to do technology.Oct 03 16:16
r_schestowitzJGay is happy with itOct 03 16:17
r_schestowitzsee what I said to him in responseOct 03 16:17
dyfetI am still catching up...Oct 03 16:18
dyfetBut since you asked what I thought....thats part of itOct 03 16:18
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/dkegel/status/1179771166363308032Oct 03 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dkegel: Went looking for a missing Halloween Document, the presentation where a technical evangelist says "you are not the… https://t.co/1wLMzIiIhLOct 03 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dkegel: Went looking for a missing Halloween Document, the presentation where a technical evangelist says "you are not the… https://t.co/1wLMzIiIhLOct 03 16:25
r_schestowitz"Went looking for a missing Halloween Document, the presentation where a technical evangelist says "you are not the developer's friend".  Couldn't find it, but did find"Oct 03 16:25
oiaohmdyfet: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ASTC-Restrictive-License good example of a frand trap.Oct 03 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ASTC Texture Compression License Turns Out To Be Restrictive Outside Of Khronos APIs - PhoronixOct 03 16:36
dyfetyep...but its frand, its just the u is upside-down....Oct 03 16:39
oiaohmdyfet:  r_schestowitz   With the CoC what country are you operating in.   https://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/discrimination-policy.pdf   Fun of Australia lot of what is in the CoC is required to operate here.Oct 03 16:40
oiaohmYes as a written up policy.Oct 03 16:40
r_schestowitzmaybe it's a new lawOct 03 16:41
r_schestowitzinterjected by those standing to gain from that sort of thingOct 03 16:41
r_schestowitzand if you dislike the law, you're a fascist sexist racistOct 03 16:42
oiaohmNo its a old law in Australia that until the Catholic church screw up happened that turns out to be enforceable.  Oct 03 16:42
oiaohm300 year old law in fact.  Before Australia existed about workplace safety.Oct 03 16:43
oiaohmr_schestowitz: I highly suspect the USA could be the same old law from UK turn out to be enforceable.Oct 03 16:44
oiaohmIts the legal duty of care to protect your employees from harm.Oct 03 16:44
r_schestowitzwith rules?Oct 03 16:44
r_schestowitzthe rules don't protect them and can sometimes hard themOct 03 16:45
oiaohmTo the best of your ablity and this include having policies of guidance.Oct 03 16:45
r_schestowitzthere have been stories about false accusationsdOct 03 16:45
r_schestowitzsuffice to say, the rules aren't being enforced against the bossesOct 03 16:45
oiaohmIn the Catholic church cases here they are being enforced against the bosses. Oct 03 16:46
r_schestowitzreligions are lawlessOct 03 16:47
r_schestowitzit's divine stuffOct 03 16:47
r_schestowitzwith some people claiming to "speak for God"Oct 03 16:47
r_schestowitzor say they're "possessed" when caught with their pants down (or a child's trousers down)Oct 03 16:48
r_schestowitzAnyway, I heard some stories of CoCs misusedOct 03 16:48
r_schestowitzyou see that in RMS, Torvalds, Tso and moreOct 03 16:48
r_schestowitzit's just a selective enforcement weaponOct 03 16:48
r_schestowitzand you can leverage as weapon things they said or wrote ages ago, things that were perfectly legalOct 03 16:48
r_schestowitzMozilla did that to EichOct 03 16:48
oiaohmTorvalds verbal abuse on mailing list was risking coming a problem for him to return to Australia.Oct 03 16:49
oiaohmr_schestowitz: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-07/online-trolls-and-cyberbullies-in-nsw-face-tougher-new-laws/10348246   Like it or not Torvalds had to change his ways.   Laws catching up with online bad behaviour.Oct 03 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | Online trolls and cyberbullies in NSW face up to five years in jail under law change - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)Oct 03 16:51
r_schestowitzTorvalds did nothing unethicalOct 03 16:51
r_schestowitzhe called out abuseOct 03 16:51
r_schestowitzeither in code or mannersOct 03 16:51
r_schestowitz(which is why so many people defend him)Oct 03 16:52
oiaohmBy Australian law his personal attack style was cyberbulling.Oct 03 16:52
r_schestowitzHe's not AustralianOct 03 16:52
r_schestowitzand it was not bullyingOct 03 16:52
r_schestowitzit's his projectOct 03 16:52
oiaohmHe comes to Australia for conferences held here.Oct 03 16:52
r_schestowitzso then what?Oct 03 16:52
r_schestowitzArrest him at the airport?Oct 03 16:52
oiaohmLegally yes.Oct 03 16:52
r_schestowitzhahaOct 03 16:52
r_schestowitzgood luckOct 03 16:52
r_schestowitzbbiabOct 03 16:53
oiaohmThey done it to other trouble makers with racest and other items.Oct 03 16:53
oiaohmAnd held them for 3 years before return them home with no charge.Oct 03 16:53
r_schestowitzThey did not arrest Trump on arrivalOct 03 16:53
r_schestowitzwhich only proves the point about selective enforcementOct 03 16:53
r_schestowitzand it's about corporate agenda, as t he corporations control the authoritiesOct 03 16:54
oiaohmTrump has diplomatic protection while he president.   But Australian law is willing to wait until he is not.Oct 03 16:54
r_schestowitzAustralis rapidly becomes more of a joke than usOct 03 16:54
r_schestowitzso-called Encryption BillOct 03 16:54
r_schestowitzMaking it a crime to write secure softwareOct 03 16:55
r_schestowitzamong other lunacyOct 03 16:55
r_schestowitzoiaohm: bs about TrumpOct 03 16:55
r_schestowitzexcusesOct 03 16:55
r_schestowitzanyway, gtgOct 03 16:55
oiaohmr_schestowitz: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/06/29/u-s-may-outlaw-uncrackable-end-to-end-encrypted-messaging-report-claims/  Not really.Oct 03 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | U.S. May Outlaw Messaging Encryption Used By WhatsApp, iMessage And Others, ReportOct 03 16:56
oiaohmAustralian law makers are more open about what all members of the 5 eyes have agreed todo.Oct 03 16:56
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r_schestowitzoiaohm: ● NEWS ● #Australia ☞ Australian State's Proposed #AgGag #Law Threatens General Right To Protest, Critics Warn https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190927/07544343075/australian-states-proposed-ag-gag-law-threatens-general-right-to-protest-critics-warn.shtmlOct 03 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Australian State's Proposed Ag-Gag Law Threatens General Right To Protest, Critics Warn | TechdirtOct 03 18:14
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MinceR03 175235 < oiaohm> He comes to Australia for conferences held here.Oct 03 20:40
MinceRhe should just refuse to go to conferences held in such shitholes thenOct 03 20:40
r_schestowitzhaOct 03 20:40
MinceRhave fun running a Linux conference without Linus.Oct 03 20:40
r_schestowitzwelcome to aussie, matey, you're under arrestOct 03 20:41
r_schestowitzunder arrest for what??Oct 03 20:41
r_schestowitzFor insulting MicrosoftOct 03 20:41
MinceRnoOct 03 20:42
MinceRfor cyberbullying microsoft!Oct 03 20:42
MinceRpoor little microsoft needs a safe space.Oct 03 20:42
r_schestowitzmaybe Gaees can be invited instead of LinusOct 03 20:42
r_schestowitzHe can fly the Lolita Express again to AussieOct 03 20:42
r_schestowitzNow the the Lolita's "daddy" is deadOct 03 20:42
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r_schestowitzhttps://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-22/why-did-bill-gates-fly-epsteins-lolita-express-after-pedophiles-prison-stintOct 03 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Why Did Bill Gates Fly On Epstein's 'Lolita Express' After Pedophile's Prison Stint? | Zero HedgeOct 03 20:43
r_schestowitzhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9765834/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-lolita-express/Oct 03 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thesun.co.uk | Bill Gates refuses to explain why he went on Jeffrey Epstein’s notorious ‘Lolita Express’ plane four years AFTER the paedo was released from prisonOct 03 20:44
r_schestowitzhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7350469/Bill-Gates-flew-Jeffrey-Epstein-Loliota-Express-2013-years-pedophile-prison-stay.htmlOct 03 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Bill Gates flew with Jeffrey Epstein on the Lolita Express in 2013 | Daily Mail OnlineOct 03 20:44
r_schestowitzhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7377133/Bill-Gates-REFUSES-reveal-flew-Lolita-Express-Jeffrey-Epstein-prison-release.htmlOct 03 20:44
r_schestowitzBUT STALLMAN!!Oct 03 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Bill Gates REFUSES to reveal why he flew on Lolita Express with Jeffrey Epstein after prison release | Daily Mail OnlineOct 03 20:44
MinceRre cyberbullying >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmMxz4cMKucOct 03 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Bitch Fight of Canary Wharf - YouTubeOct 03 20:46
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19070966Oct 03 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectOct 03 22:25
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/629662.jpgOct 03 22:43
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4vxoP-IF2MOct 03 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How the Squid Lost Its Shell - YouTubeOct 03 23:11
XRevan86MinceR: G-d snapped Their finger, the Squid lost its shell and G-d saw that it is good.Oct 03 23:14
MinceRlolOct 03 23:14
XRevan86Don't lol at me, all theories are valid!Oct 03 23:15
XRevan86it also happened during World War 2Oct 03 23:16
XRevan86too far? (:Oct 03 23:17
XRevan86MinceR: Interesting video.Oct 03 23:23
MinceRthat's why i linked it :>Oct 03 23:27
XRevan86MinceR: Now it has my approval as well :POct 03 23:27
MinceR:)Oct 03 23:31
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19072042Oct 03 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectOct 03 23:51

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