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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Storyboard cranks up GUIs for iWave’s i.MX8 boards http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134804 [https://pleroma.site/objects/032b0b3b-b4df-4664-ab31-d46d16b51a85]Mar 05 00:03
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Four-slot Raspberry Pi cluster board starts at $80 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134805 [https://pleroma.site/objects/79405acf-ccd8-4d79-9aff-380640931386]Mar 05 00:04
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134806 [https://pleroma.site/objects/03596184-cb92-4ffc-aa3f-a38c21e2789e]Mar 05 00:05
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows/Screencasts: Linux in the Ham Shack, FLOSS Weekly, Desktop Apps on a Mobile Phone, Linux Headlines, Test and Code, mintCast, Pardus and Netrunner http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134807 [https://pleroma.site/objects/29d50065-0008-4bca-959e-fa205b6861a8]Mar 05 02:24
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134808 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f74de416-caf9-40ad-b473-ba3a8dd58754]Mar 05 02:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Web/CMS/Sysadmin: Cockpit 214, Gutenberg in Drupal, Kiwi TCMS 8.1, Going Static With Hugo http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134809 [https://pleroma.site/objects/05488e05-303e-49a1-b42d-2782a32de85c]Mar 05 02:35
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Debian Leader #SamHartman Not Seeking Reelection http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134810 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d2ba3d93-bcd6-4802-a171-762f32fe80a7]Mar 05 02:42
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Events: OpenUK, Red Hat Summit, WSLConf, LibrePlanet, KubeCon + CloudNativeCon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134811 [https://pleroma.site/objects/75534739-da3a-43e4-b0b9-6ad4b0b9d54c]Mar 05 02:49
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: JavaScript, Privacy and Departures http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134812 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fc046295-ca0f-48b3-b6b1-2298e0680069]Mar 05 02:56
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134813 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cbf98b57-0f06-4513-9f3b-05950aec2578]Mar 05 03:23
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSI Responds to Its Ban of OSI Cofounder Eric Raymond http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134814 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ebbfc558-756b-4f3e-a22b-92be47e1eac8]Mar 05 03:28
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: A Linux Performance Look At AMD's 64-core Ryzen Threadripper 3990X Processor http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134815 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2f8eee2c-e406-4a52-abb9-c1401c9d4dff]Mar 05 03:32
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games/Graphics: Stadia, GOG and Blender 2.82's NVIDIA OptiX Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134816 [https://pleroma.site/objects/49d12bf7-bbd5-4dba-b525-983f07af28c9]Mar 05 03:41
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: LWN's Latest Kernel Space Articles (Paywall Expiry) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134817 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8ab5007e-0100-4cd9-8c5c-87ee4f707c61]Mar 05 04:03
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: GCC, LLVM, RcppSimdJson, Qt, R, Python and Java http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134818 [https://pleroma.site/objects/122b3cde-25ea-4bce-85ee-0a34ea73087d]Mar 05 04:09
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: “the road to Hell is paved with good intentions” – and other news http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134819 [https://pleroma.site/objects/16859768-e240-4655-ae6e-ec14a3fd7298]Mar 05 04:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IBM/Red Hat/Fedora: OpenShift, Red Hat Summit, IBM+SUSE, Fedora 31 and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134820 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2c6bf09d-fff2-4e9f-9b8c-0a4118c9d60b]Mar 05 04:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: "Chromebook... Debian 10 'Buster' instead of Debian 9 'Stretch'" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134786#comment-23982 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a5cc1cf4-e619-41c1-9345-16f39b3324eb]Mar 05 04:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134821 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5e2e5cee-5c84-4f76-b1d7-e4574b6d32ee]Mar 05 04:41
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: What is Linux and Why There are 100’s of Linux Distributions? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134822 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a56f8791-cd8e-4f82-a467-f556335c1573]Mar 05 04:46
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: All About Trisquel GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134823 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a53cf65f-bcd2-44cd-a4f1-f50c746b5488]Mar 05 04:48
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Should open source be ethical? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134819#comment-23985 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2895945c-4f88-452f-9f95-9e1eaa76ee48]Mar 05 05:18
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Devices: SDMC, SQFMI and Raspberry Pi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134824 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4e694a92-4dee-4ea9-85bc-ca0ccdcec9c1]Mar 05 06:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS, Open Access and Open Protocols http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134825 [https://pleroma.site/objects/35705a88-be08-42e2-b62b-dd17f5acf182]Mar 05 06:52
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 5/3/2020: CirrOS 0.5.0, GCC 8.4 Released http://techrights.org/2020/03/05/cirros-0-5-0/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/c71cc0d8-aef6-4c0b-bf43-0a5834a70d98]Mar 05 07:10
MinceRhttps://66.media.tumblr.com/187f2a39be96bf06babdfedf4500d14c/tumblr_p3tvnqHt1N1srjwkeo1_640.jpgMar 05 07:33
MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/1911258Mar 05 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 05 07:58
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schestowitzhttps://www.technadu.com/hackers-breached-62-us-colleges-via-erp-vulnerability/74170/Mar 05 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackers Managed to Breach 62 US Colleges and Universities | TechNaduMar 05 09:01
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Chief Marketing Officer of Linux Foundation Left Earlier This Year to Become Chief Communications Officer for Proprietary Software Vanguard That Exposes Kids' Data to Crackers http://techrights.org/2020/03/05/lf-incompatible-with-linux/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/7daebc09-e42c-4185-b693-de537057f7ac]Mar 05 10:09
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134826 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5718d316-0c95-4105-9bed-112e5bf9acf4]Mar 05 11:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: What my day looks like as a sysadmin http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134827 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0d8bee63-8f7a-4569-b57c-0ace0b6b8d25]Mar 05 11:43
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: SuperStarfighter, GDevelop, Barotrauma http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134828 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6a8cb2c1-a1cf-4fef-a5c3-e3f63639e9c3]Mar 05 12:13
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #CollaboraOnline 4.2.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134829 #libreoffice [https://pleroma.site/objects/85a4026d-1f28-41b0-89e6-74d9d8510091]Mar 05 12:16
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134830 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7ac2672a-96e8-4245-b5b5-b84a3ed7ba57]Mar 05 12:27
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/rpOjQwE.jpgMar 05 12:34
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ethical Censorship of One's (Co)Founder http://techrights.org/2020/03/05/censorship-for-ethics/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/55cc706d-cb4d-436d-8b6f-73d0199bec5a]Mar 05 12:48
schestowitzit seems possible FSF will give award to RMS's ousterMar 05 12:59
schestowitz"Mar 05 12:59
schestowitzAnyway, thanks in advance for being very careful with this.  At least the last bit might be conceivably be published as if leaked by a disgruntled committee member (I don't even know who the committee is, though; I just believe the committee already got the names, but I can't even check it, as I and most of the board are kept in the dark about most everything).Mar 05 12:59
schestowitzIt might actually be useful to have some speculative discussion on the matter started, like trying to guess whether the award would go to RMSMar 05 12:59
schestowitzbecause now he's finally eligible, or to yet another SFC member such as Bradley who's also eligible but, despite the ED's preference, not quite as deserving IMHO.Mar 05 12:59
schestowitz"Mar 05 12:59
schestowitzdisaster if they go for it!!Mar 05 12:59
schestowitzKuhnMar 05 12:59
schestowitzCoup leaderMar 05 12:59
schestowitzFSF award?Mar 05 12:59
schestowitzWho would give the award? Not RMS :-DMar 05 12:59
MinceRwell, at least that way the new FSF will introduce itselfMar 05 13:10
MinceRand we will all know what value they have and whose side they're onMar 05 13:11
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Inside the Free Software Foundation (FSF) - Part V: #RichardStallman is Not Going Away (Any Time Soon) http://techrights.org/2020/03/05/rms-is-not-going-away/ #rms #fsf #gnu [https://pleroma.site/objects/49da698c-a080-4e99-9114-eccc4a26ae91]Mar 05 13:40
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 10 Reasons to Choose Debian Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134831 [https://pleroma.site/objects/177002a9-e53d-48f9-bb45-ba52ecb9e413]Mar 05 13:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Get started with an open source Windows package manager: Chocolatey http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134832 [https://pleroma.site/objects/77b76f3d-c821-4197-bc41-25caeabbc72f]Mar 05 13:56
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Here’s Manjaro Linux Running on the PinePhone and PineTab http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134834 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e4316299-614b-4e40-9211-e309a2f550c7]Mar 05 13:59
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134835 [https://pleroma.site/objects/63168450-559b-4c18-ba31-446f362e5779]Mar 05 14:00
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schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36655/Mar 05 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LXer: Welcome to sad old days ?: How to Automatically Record the Terminal Session Activity of All Users on LinuxMar 05 14:11
schestowitz"Mar 05 14:11
schestowitzThis kind of monitoring is akin to Gestapo/Stazi spying, in the name of security likewise. LAN routers in most, if not all, companies already implement *censorship* through content filtering, though not named as such. Now logging user input is a step further in destroying individual liberties. There'll always be some noble reasons put forward to validate such behavior. When the same reasoning is applied in other regions like North Mar 05 14:11
schestowitzKorea, it is immediately despised. We are no better.Mar 05 14:11
schestowitzI have well understood that the artiicle mentions critical servers. The administrators should do the job themselves if their trust level is so low.Mar 05 14:11
schestowitz"Mar 05 14:11
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/guWpqAt.jpgMar 05 14:13
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schestowitzMinceR: weird thing: maybe you can help...Mar 05 14:57
schestowitzwhy would one PC alone  seemingly throttle down a connection to a VM on the same HV that another VM on the same HV isn't  throttled on?Mar 05 14:58
schestowitzI even tried rebooting that boxMar 05 14:58
schestowitzthe other box don't have this issueMar 05 14:58
schestowitzI am at a loss for an explanation.... never seen something so mystifyingMar 05 14:58
MinceRis that a client PC?Mar 05 14:58
schestowitzcould not find any info about it onlineMar 05 14:58
schestowitzit all started a few days ago, I did not even change configMar 05 14:59
schestowitzyes, a laptop connecting to the hypervisor of the siteMar 05 14:59
schestowitzhuge lag on the techrights vm over sshMar 05 14:59
MinceRare both VM-s running the same thing?Mar 05 14:59
schestowitzbut not tuxmachinesMar 05 14:59
schestowitzand only on this one laptopMar 05 14:59
schestowitzboth use centos, yes...Mar 05 14:59
schestowitzbut I can only reproduce on one machine since days ago...Mar 05 14:59
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schestowitzreboot made no different, I was really that desperate  to get to the bottom of itMar 05 15:00
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MinceRand throttling is happening via TCP?Mar 05 15:02
schestowitzseems soMar 05 15:04
schestowitzbut only on that machineMar 05 15:04
schestowitzit worked ok for monthsMar 05 15:04
schestowitzit still does.... for thte other VM it connects toMar 05 15:05
schestowitzon the same HVMar 05 15:05
schestowitzrianne joked that maybe someone intercepts somethingMar 05 15:05
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MinceRi don't have a better idea than thatMar 05 15:11
MinceRmaybe there's a tricky firewall rule on the HV/VM or the clientMar 05 15:12
MinceRor the server program does something fishyMar 05 15:12
schestowitzFirewall would allow or disallowMar 05 15:13
schestowitzthis is sporadicMar 05 15:13
schestowitzanywayMar 05 15:13
schestowitzI moved the terminal to another laptopMar 05 15:13
schestowitzfor now anyway....Mar 05 15:13
MinceRfirewall could do QoS or somethingMar 05 15:15
schestowitzah, right...Mar 05 15:15
schestowitzmaybe the datacentre filters do somethinghMar 05 15:15
schestowitzseeing that 24/7 this machine streams data into itMar 05 15:16
schestowitzbut...Mar 05 15:16
MinceRor i suppose your affected connection could have some unfortunate properties that make it lose a lot at some point where packages are discardedMar 05 15:16
schestowitzthat might not explain why the other terminal/VM is OKMar 05 15:16
schestowitzexcept the source IP is differentMar 05 15:16
schestowitzMinceR: yes, likely...Mar 05 15:16
schestowitzI guess that might be a good explanationMar 05 15:16
MinceRdid the laptop's IP address change between attempts?Mar 05 15:16
schestowitzso nothing nefariousMar 05 15:16
schestowitzI just never saw such a thing beforeMar 05 15:16
schestowitzno, same IPMar 05 15:17
schestowitzalthough all the laptops are on the same routerMar 05 15:17
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oiaohmschestowitz: I have seen some strangeless when it come to network buffers at times with some hypervisors.Mar 05 15:18
oiaohmschestowitz: I did have a fun case where one vm was using network card emulation and the other was using virtio networking of course the one using virtrual network card emulation looked badly performance hurt at times.Mar 05 15:21
schestowitzI guess it's nothing to worry about thenMar 05 15:21
schestowitzlike packet interceptionMar 05 15:21
schestowitzanyway, it's the monitoring of techrights, the siteMar 05 15:22
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/love-3Mar 05 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - LoveMar 05 15:22
schestowitzI moved that to another laptop for now, it's just less visible to meMar 05 15:22
oiaohmschestowitz: with networking there are a lot of adjustable things.  If you are seeing one vm get basically unifairly harmed in performance you also do have to check cpu allocation for being somewhere near fair as well.Mar 05 15:23
oiaohmschestowitz: basically hypervisors and performance issues if things are not configured right go hand in hand.Mar 05 15:24
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schestowitzoiaohm: cheersMar 05 16:37
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MinceRhttps://youtu.be/uknIPMOCoMQMar 05 19:47
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MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/19112455Mar 05 21:11
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MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/premiumMar 05 21:32
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MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-old-daysMar 05 22:30
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