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schestowitzSFC? Wait.Oct 07 01:35
schestowitzPlatinum (Top) Sponsors of Copyleft Conf Are Companies That Attack Copyleft’s Father, Richard Stallman http://techrights.org/2020/04/30/copyleft-conf-2020/ where SFC money comes from Oct 07 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Platinum (Top) Sponsors of Copyleft Conf Are Companies That Attack Copyleft’s Father, Richard Stallman | TechrightsOct 07 01:38
schestowitz"We'd rather see Kuhn stepping down (than Stallman stepping down). The Software Freedom Conservancy is not essential" http://techrights.org/2019/09/16/stallman-removed/Oct 07 01:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | As Richard Stallman Resigns Let’s Consider Why GNU/Linux Without Stallman and Torvalds Would be a Victory to Microsoft | TechrightsOct 07 01:39
schestowitz"SFC IRS A breakdown of the finances." http://techrights.org/2020/09/05/big-sponsors-dilemma/Oct 07 01:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Big Money Can Do Big Damage to Membership-Dependent Organisations (Which Should Remain Accountable to Members, Not Big Sponsors) | TechrightsOct 07 01:41
schestowitz General Manager of Open Source Initiative (OSI) Brought Microsoft Money to the Conservancy for Two Years in a Row, Letting a Copyleft Foe and GPL Violator Buy Keynote Talks in Copyleft Events http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/osi-gm/Oct 07 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | General Manager of Open Source Initiative (OSI) Brought Microsoft Money to the Conservancy for Two Years in a Row, Letting a Copyleft Foe and GPL Violator Buy Keynote Talks in Copyleft Events | TechrightsOct 07 01:43
schestowitz "Microsoft money while she was in charge of Copyleft Conf, both in 2019 and in 2020 (shortly before and also some time after receiving an award from FSF (RMS, personally))." http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/back-stabbing-richard-stallman/Oct 07 01:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: Richard Stallman (RMS) Was Betrayed by Matthias Kirschner’s FSFE, Which Closely Connected With People Who Attack Stallman | TechrightsOct 07 01:46
schestowitzchaekyung: I can dig up more, there's no single wiki page about itOct 07 01:46
schestowitzSFC is nowhere as bad as OSI or LFOct 07 01:46
chaekyungThat's plenty for tomorrow, thanksOct 07 02:00
chaekyunghttps://linuxreviews.org/Software_Freedom_Conservancy  is what I made so far. not much. It's interesting that it's not a very big oneOct 07 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | Software Freedom Conservancy - LinuxReviewsOct 07 02:01
chaekyungseems mostly harmlessOct 07 02:01
chaekyungby that I mean it's not a 50 or 100 million enterprise, it's a 2.7m/year organization. So it's not all that well-funded compared to .. others.Oct 07 02:02
schestowitzyes, this is why I don't pick on them muchOct 07 02:03
schestowitzI've just linked to thisOct 07 02:04
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: https://www.itwire.com/outsourcing/us-announces-fresh-restrictions-on-h-1b-visas.htmlOct 07 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - US announces fresh restrictions on H-1B visasOct 07 02:12
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schestowitz">Below we publish the first full transcript of Bill Gates' video testimony. All Gates' words are uttered under oath, so they must be true, so the Bill Gates memos produced by DoJ attorney David Boies afterwards which appear to contradict him can't be. Presumably. Gates shows little sign of having been well-briefed for the deposition by Microsoft lawyers. It is quite likely that Gates refused advice - this is of constant concern to hisOct 07 04:22
schestowitzPR handlers. It may well turn out, if the performance he produced on Monday is typical, that the greatest single factor causing Microsoft to lose the case will be Gates' performance. Gates' had a mantra for the part of the deposition about Intel: the words were "low quality" and "incompatible" for Intel software. His vehemence, and other evidence, suggests that the opposite may be true: Intel's software was a considerable threat to Oct 07 04:22
schestowitzMicrosoft, as we shall detail in due course. Outside the courtroom, Boies said that Microsoft deliberately tried to stop Intel from competing because its software quality was good, not poor. In many of the exchanges which follow, Gates paused for up to 25 seconds, staring down at the table: Boies: Did Microsoft make any effort to convince Intel not to help Sun and Java? Gates: Not that I know of. Boies: Did you or anyone at Microsoft Oct 07 04:22
schestowitzattempt to convince Intel not to engage in any software activity? [Microsoft lawyer Heiner objected, but Gates responded] Gates: No. Boies: Did you or, to your knowledge, anyone at Microsoft try to convince Intel that it should not engage in any software activity unless Microsoft was involved in that activity? Gates: I'm sure we pointed out sometimes how sometimes a lack of communications between the two companies on various subjects Oct 07 04:22
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schestowitzhttps://www.theregister.com/1998/11/10/gates_under_the_grill/Oct 07 04:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Gates under the grill – the full transcript • The RegisterOct 07 04:22
schestowitz" Outside the courtroom, Boies said that Microsoft deliberately tried to stop Intel from competing because its software quality was good, not poor."Oct 07 04:23
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schestowitzchaekyung: good to see patent coverage also https://linuxreviews.org/US-China_DRAM_Patent_War_Rumored_To_Be_EscalatingOct 07 05:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | US-China DRAM Patent War Rumored To Be Escalating - LinuxReviewsOct 07 05:30
schestowitzsee https://patentlyo.com/patent/2020/10/2-billion-judgment.htmlOct 07 05:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | $2 billion judgment | Patently-OOct 07 05:30
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schestowitzopen question to all: any OCR gurus here?Oct 07 09:08
schestowitzwe need to convert these PDFs into text somehow, based on the many PDFs (almost a hundred I think) https://www.justice.gov/atr/usdoj-antitrust-division-us-v-microsoft-corporation-browser-and-middleware-depositionOct 07 09:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.justice.gov | U.S. v. Microsoft Corporation [Browser and Middleware] Deposition TranscriptsOct 07 09:09
schestowitz>> CoC isn't a new concept. Oct 07 09:14
schestowitz> There are at least two non-exclusive concepts involved and harmfullyOct 07 09:14
schestowitz> conflated under the rubrik of CoC.  People confuse the two, often onOct 07 09:14
schestowitz> purpose, to cause strife.  The first is the superficial stated cause ofOct 07 09:14
schestowitz> being enhanced rules of order with the goal of increased unity andOct 07 09:14
schestowitz> cohesion.  The other is actually the opposite, and it is a weapon byOct 07 09:14
schestowitz> which opponents can be removed in spite of, or because of, superiorOct 07 09:14
schestowitz> technical merit and domain expertise.Oct 07 09:14
schestowitz> Oct 07 09:14
kingoffranceits not new its corporate lawOct 07 09:37
kingoffrancewhat every corp probably doesOct 07 09:37
kingoffrancetheir internal by lawsOct 07 09:37
kingoffrancerules for employees etc.Oct 07 09:37
kingoffranceits just usually internal codes for employeesOct 07 09:37
kingoffrancethats why you dont get for example a "jury"Oct 07 09:38
kingoffrancebecause its assumed you 'volunteered'Oct 07 09:38
kingoffranceand hence waived thatOct 07 09:38
kingoffranceyou can consent to waive what normal law might give youOct 07 09:38
kingoffranceequity is a #$@$#$Oct 07 09:40
kingoffrancebecause its assumed you knowingly made a contractOct 07 09:40
kingoffranceand hence other law doesnt apply (unless e.g. fraud can be shown) -- all that matters is are you following what you agreed to or notOct 07 09:41
schestowitzI wonder if the texts can be further refined, I've added <hr> as page separators, but without endless manual work it's hard to improve clarityOct 07 09:44
kingoffrancein that light they are totally normal -- its just usually you are getting paid to follow themOct 07 09:49
kingoffrancepart of your employment termsOct 07 09:49
schestowitzRe: What kind of crap is this?Oct 07 09:53
schestowitz>> OpenBSD also has a monolithic kernel, soOct 07 09:53
schestowitz> Oct 07 09:53
schestowitz> So nothing. Practically every working OS has a monolithic kernel. What'sOct 07 09:53
schestowitz> different between BSD and Linux is that Linux never gets forked, it onlyOct 07 09:53
schestowitz> gets worse. BSD gets forked and different groups of maintainers all theOct 07 09:53
schestowitz> time.Oct 07 09:54
schestowitz> Oct 07 09:54
schestowitz> Perhaps he's implying that Hurd is worth something. Okay-- what? What isOct 07 09:54
schestowitz> Hurd actually worth, to anybody? Seriously, does anybody think Hurd isOct 07 09:54
schestowitz> going to be a thing in the next TEN years? I don't. GNU/Linux startedOct 07 09:54
schestowitz> going in the toilet in 2014-2015, at the latest. If SMN wants to waitOct 07 09:54
schestowitz> another 10 for viable software, good on him.Oct 07 09:54
schestowitz> To wit, nobody is forking Hurd (or GNU) so there's no way to save itOct 07 09:54
schestowitz> from political problems. Lead Hurd dev is anti-rms, so fuck that guy.Oct 07 09:54
schestowitz> Oct 07 09:54
schestowitz> People are entitled to their opinions of course. But given the evilnessOct 07 09:54
schestowitz> of what happens, IMO it's difficult to attack rms for what happened, andOct 07 09:54
schestowitz> NOT be endorsing corporate control of projects by bribery and bullshit.Oct 07 09:54
schestowitz> Oct 07 09:54
schestowitz> So lead Hurd dev is corrupt. He many not be bribed, he may not be evil--Oct 07 09:55
schestowitz> but politically, he is a doormat for evil. He stands for nothing. ThatOct 07 09:55
schestowitz> doesn't have to make Hurd politically useless, but until there is someOct 07 09:55
schestowitz> drastic change, it does. You don't want a project that is going toOct 07 09:55
schestowitz> itself become a doormat for evil. That's what Linux (the kernel) is now,Oct 07 09:55
schestowitz> and that's what Hurd is until further notice. TBH that's also what EmacsOct 07 09:55
schestowitz> is turning into. The people responsible for Emacs appear to be traitorsOct 07 09:55
schestowitz> and scum. They're hardly better than thieves. Please, prove me wrong. IOct 07 09:55
schestowitz> don't love all this bad news, but I refuse to pretend it's good newsOct 07 09:55
schestowitz> like most people (Hurd lead dev) do.Oct 07 09:55
schestowitz> The problem with GNU (which I support and encourage) is that it's beingOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> taken over the same way the FSF was.Oct 07 09:56
schestowitz> Oct 07 09:56
schestowitz> In 2017 when we talked about the erosion at the FSF, it seemed moreOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> hypothetical, destined by principle, but even if the writing was on theOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> wall it seemed a bit crazy to consider it-- even with good reason to. ItOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> was so far-fetched.Oct 07 09:56
schestowitz> Oct 07 09:56
schestowitz> GNU isn't doing better in 2020 than the FSF was doing in 2017. In factOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> it's doing worse. So I think it's possible for GNU to collapse in theOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> next 5 years-- I usually give these things 5 years and they usuallyOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> happen faster, and I'm still like: "wow." But it's more important toOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> save GNU than the FSF.Oct 07 09:56
schestowitz> Oct 07 09:56
schestowitz> GNU is the only thing holding the GPL up. Sure there's a lot of otherOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> GPL software, but most of it is on Github. Without GNU, Copyleft willOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> have no (sincere) champion. It will have support, but it will fall apartOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> as people like SFC exploit it-- more exploiters than supporters.Oct 07 09:56
schestowitz> Oct 07 09:56
schestowitz> GNU is the last stand for Free Software (as Free Software) before itOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> collapses. What collapse looks like is just a long, steady timeline ofOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> erosion without renewal. On a software front, Hyperbola can shore upOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> some defenses and set good examples for the next generation of FreeOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> Software. But if that doesn't happen, GNU will go the way of the FSF andOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> take Free Software with it. GNU IS going that way, slowly. The bigOct 07 09:56
schestowitz> question in all of this, is what people are going to rally behind.Oct 07 09:56
schestowitz> Nobody knows the answer to that-- only what will happen if they don't.Oct 07 09:56
MinceRhurd has failed anywayOct 07 10:08
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schestowitzI barely heard about its development anymoreOct 07 10:58
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zoobabUPC enters the Bundestag tomorrow, vote by the end of the month with the vote of the Budget, cause they need to be present for 2/3 majorityOct 07 11:02
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schestowitzfcc said further issues, beyond this majorityOct 07 11:04
schestowitzthey just give themselves a mere illusion of "progress"Oct 07 11:04
schestowitzto carry on selling "Services" to some gullible clients, zoobabOct 07 11:05
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zoobabI decided to take the month of October offOct 07 11:06
schestowitznot much will happen anywayOct 07 11:07
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schestowitzcan't think of anything crucial this monthOct 07 11:07
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schestowitzRe: Gnu articleOct 07 11:38
schestowitz> In the last paragraph, s/because if this/because of this/Oct 07 11:38
schestowitz> Oct 07 11:38
schestowitz> I know someone is going to complain that GNU wasn't built on top of UNIXOct 07 11:38
schestowitz> (arguing correctly that GNU is not derived from UNIX sources) but it wasOct 07 11:38
schestowitz> still literally built on top of UNIX, on its way to being self-hosting.Oct 07 11:38
schestowitz> I was referring to that-- and the comparison is apt, because HyperbolaOct 07 11:38
schestowitz> is also being built on top of UNIX-- though officially, OpenBSD (anyOct 07 11:38
schestowitz> BSD) is not allowed to refer to itself as UNIX. So they have to sayOct 07 11:38
schestowitz> "Unix-like" in official and commercial contexts, no more 1-800-ITS-UNIXOct 07 11:38
schestowitz> phone numbers for selling BSD.Oct 07 11:38
schestowitzwe got some more gates transcripts readyOct 07 11:42
schestowitz>> thoughts?Oct 07 11:42
schestowitz>>Oct 07 11:42
schestowitz> I think that looks right.Oct 07 11:42
schestowitz> The first nine lines are indented with tabs, but that's in the copies asOct 07 11:42
schestowitz> they arrived so they should be left in.Oct 07 11:42
schestowitzRe: top: no newline, bottom: newlineOct 07 11:42
oiaohmschestowitz: https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/history.html  the history of GNU get very messy when you look at hurd history.Oct 07 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | historyOct 07 11:54
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scientesoiaohm, turd history?Oct 07 13:18
scientesOK, I love the GNU project, but at this point hurd is a failure, and maybe they should look at SeL4, which is GPLOct 07 13:18
scientesprotected mode was never a good idea, and I think designing an OS around it was a mistake to begin withOct 07 13:20
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oiaohmscientes: that writes it in better english like it mentions  "initial kernel" that is in fact mentioned in The GNU Manifesto in 1985Oct 07 13:43
oiaohmHurd history goes back to a proto OS kernel in 1983 the start of GNU.Oct 07 13:44
scientesalso when they were writing it they were still trying to emulatin SRV5 UNIXOct 07 13:44
scienteswhile these days a new system would do its own thing, while trying to support source-compatibility with LinuxOct 07 13:45
oiaohmThe fact there was a early kernel the idea that GNU is built completely on top of Unix is not 100 true.lOct 07 13:46
scienteswhich is actually quite doable givin how contained the APIs areOct 07 13:46
oiaohmProgress of GNU kernel work has been total failure.Oct 07 13:47
scientesoiaohm, yeah, but you always need to people something that is somewhat familiar to themOct 07 13:47
scienteswhich is why FPGAs are still in the stone-age when it comes to softwareOct 07 13:47
oiaohmReally the mircokernel idea was very strong in the early GNU kernel work.lOct 07 13:48
oiaohmI have to trim a finger nail.Oct 07 13:48
oiaohmIts hooking the L keyOct 07 13:48
oiaohmTo be correct covid-19 has given the the chance to let my nail grow out.lOct 07 13:49
kingoffrancehttps://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/faq/which_microkernel.htmlOct 07 13:51
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kingoffrance"The majority of GNU Mach's ?device drivers are from Linux 2.0"Oct 07 13:52
kingoffranceos kit no longer maintained upstreamOct 07 13:52
kingoffrance"and thus Viengoos is on hold."Oct 07 13:52
kingoffrancefrom what i see thats 3x their "upstream" diedOct 07 13:52
kingoffrancelike it seems to me maybe they wouldve been better doing everything on their ownOct 07 13:52
kingoffrancefrom the peanut gallery it looks like they tried to reuse other code ...which those projects all died on their ownOct 07 13:53
kingoffranceleaving hurd holding the bagOct 07 13:53
kingoffranceironically, they may have been the only project aliveOct 07 13:54
kingoffrancecontrary to how usually portrayed anywasOct 07 13:54
kingoffranceperhaps this is too simplistic, but looks to me like they kept trying to pull in other codeOct 07 13:56
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sebsebsebMinceR: AppleOct 07 14:22
scienteshmm, appears Nancy Risol took down her fake interview with ForbesOct 07 14:29
scienteswhere she was wearing these huge fake nailsOct 07 14:29
scientesits still up on Facebook, but you have to log inOct 07 14:30
scientesI wish I could send a special header that would tell web sites to warm me if I only have my google email attachedOct 07 14:49
scientesbecause google won't even let you use your own domain anymore unless you pay themOct 07 14:49
scientes"google accounts" no longer existOct 07 14:50
scientesthey only have gmail accountsOct 07 14:50
scientesand you can also no longer use their servers to send email from your own domain nameOct 07 14:52
scienteswhich is a FUD problemOct 07 14:52
scientesthis is a case when I am glad that Germany forced them to use "googlemail.com" in GermanyOct 07 14:55
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sebsebsebschestowitz:  interesing new restrictiosn for scotlandOct 07 15:02
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schestowitzsebsebseb: I guess...Oct 07 15:28
schestowitzbetter later than neverOct 07 15:28
schestowitzwinter is coming, many patientsOct 07 15:29
schestowitzhttps://robertreich.org/post/631268051682279424Oct 07 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-robertreich.org | Robert ReichOct 07 15:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: do it in Engalnd and ruin the pubs that are already nearly ruinedOct 07 15:34
scientesXRevan86, you were right about Constantinople speaking Greek. They also massacred all Westerners in the capital in 1182, including the women, children, and sick.Oct 07 15:39
smnthermes> ‎[05:53:51] ‎schestowitz‎: Re: What kind of crap is this?Oct 07 15:42
smnthermes> ‎[05:53:52] ‎schestowitz‎: >> OpenBSD also has a monolithic kernel, soOct 07 15:42
smnthermes> ‎[05:53:54] ‎schestowitz‎: > Oct 07 15:42
smnthermes> ‎[05:53:55] ‎schestowitz‎: > So nothing. Practically every working OS has a monolithic kernel. What'sOct 07 15:42
smnthermes> ‎[05:53:57] ‎schestowitz‎: > different between BSD and Linux is that Linux never gets forked, it onlyOct 07 15:42
smnthermes> ‎[05:53:58] ‎schestowitz‎: > gets worse. BSD gets forked and different groups of maintainers all theOct 07 15:42
smnthermes> ‎[05:54:00] ‎schestowitz‎: > time.Oct 07 15:42
smnthermesWho said that?Oct 07 15:42
_I3^RELATIVISMschestowitz: nice text who is the ator? yourselfOct 07 15:51
smnthermeshttps://nitter.snopyta.org/BrendanEich/status/1154555458587226113#mOct 07 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.snopyta.org | BrendanEich (@BrendanEich): "What "follow-up on Twitter"? Link to it if you can, or GTFO. Your own record here, for all to see, is terrible: "DRM", "enforced viewing", "(the site with different ads)". Own it or retract it." | nitterOct 07 15:54
smnthermesLolOct 07 15:54
_I3^RELATIVISMyes hyperbola seams to be the sane people that hopefully will make the path for the futureOct 07 15:54
_I3^RELATIVISMalthough im concerned there is already some cracks showing up from some of the recent contributorsOct 07 15:55
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smnthermes> Devuan is also done — the project has no integrity at all, and Dyne (an organisation that does seem to care about your freedom, led by FSF-approved-distro creator Denis Roio) should pull the plug on it and let Devuan fend for itselfOct 07 16:16
smnthermesAny article about it?Oct 07 16:16
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MinceR07 142034 < scientes> protected mode was never a good idea, and I think designing an OS around it was a mistake to begin withOct 07 16:54
MinceRis it better to have buggy applications crash the whole system? :>Oct 07 16:54
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MinceRsebsebseb: red hatOct 07 16:54
MinceRwhat's the issue with devuan?Oct 07 16:55
schestowitz[15:51] <_I3^RELATIVISM> schestowitz: nice text who is the ator? yourselfOct 07 16:56
schestowitzno, figosdevOct 07 16:56
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schestowitz[16:16] <smnthermes> Any article about it?Oct 07 17:09
schestowitzyou can search dyne and devuan on the siteOct 07 17:09
schestowitzfig is more familiar with it than I amOct 07 17:09
schestowitzthe devuan folks let him down, not dyneOct 07 17:09
Ariadnetheres a few issues with devuanOct 07 17:30
Ariadnefor one, half the people involved in devuan are doing it for the wrong reasonsOct 07 17:30
Ariadnesecondly, there's not much competency involved in the actual production of devuan.  lots of sloppy workOct 07 17:31
Ariadnethird, some devuan people are linked to white supremacy, qanon, etcOct 07 17:31
schestowitzall things can be linked to itOct 07 17:38
schestowitzdoes not mean it's their leadOct 07 17:38
schestowitztwitter has them, pleroma has themOct 07 17:38
scientesMinceR, MMU is a good idea, but having privledged mode was a dumb idea--it is better to do security through memory addressesOct 07 17:43
scientesand put all the security in memory protectionOct 07 17:43
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_I3^RELATIVISMviera:  that text tha schestowitz  shareOct 07 18:12
_I3^RELATIVISMshared do you know the originOct 07 18:13
scientesoh wow, that georgian monestary that I was talking about before is now part of a scandel https://oc-media.org/georgian-officials-indicted-for-hiding-maps-to-concede-territories-to-azerbaijan/Oct 07 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-oc-media.org | Georgian officials indicted for ‘hiding maps’ to concede territories to AzerbaijanOct 07 18:16
scientesXRevan86, do you know what program I can use to open a IDRISI map? http://www.agroatlas.ru/en/content/Climatic_maps/ovv/ovv_05/index.htmlOct 07 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agroatlas.ru | AgroAtlas - Climate - Relative air humidity map. May .Oct 07 18:17
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XRevan86scientes: Apparently there's a programme in the DVD edition.Oct 07 18:19
XRevan86> Agroatlas Utilities: Agroatlas Viewer, Image Calculator, Palette EditorOct 07 18:19
XRevan86and there's thatOct 07 18:19
scientes?? its a common format I see people talking about converting back and forward between ArcGISOct 07 18:19
scientesconsidering its from 2010Oct 07 18:20
scientesyeah sure though, probably will work with wineOct 07 18:20
scientesnice it covers all of the soviet union :) that includes georgiaOct 07 18:21
scienteswell, no only the russian part of the soviet unionOct 07 18:21
scientesthe maps at the tblisi anti-soviet museum also showed the distinctionOct 07 18:22
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scientesXRevan86, the program is using the cyrillic page which wine does not understandOct 07 18:30
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scientesOK, I have to cross the caspian sea to find somewhere dryOct 07 18:33
scientespretty much what I already knewOct 07 18:34
scientesoh wow, georgia is actually better than across the mountainsOct 07 18:35
scientesin january http://www.agroatlas.ru/en/content/Climatic_maps/ovv/ovv_01/index.htmlOct 07 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agroatlas.ru | AgroAtlas - Climate - Relative air humidity map. January .Oct 07 18:35
schestowitzscientes: not a good time to be in that region tbhOct 07 18:36
scientesok very seasonalOct 07 18:36
scienteshttp://www.agroatlas.ru/en/content/Climatic_maps/ovv/ovv_09/index.htmlOct 07 18:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agroatlas.ru | AgroAtlas - Climate - Relative air humidity map. September .Oct 07 18:36
scientesmy wool clothes got ruined in the last few monthsOct 07 18:36
scientesbeing on the first floor was the biggest problemOct 07 18:36
scientesand on the seaOct 07 18:36
scientesbut if i took them to the dessert I could save themOct 07 18:37
scientesand my nice down jacketOct 07 18:37
scientesso that area must grow nasty cold moldOct 07 18:37
scienteslike where I am fromOct 07 18:38
schestowitzhttps://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news-feature/2020/10/07/Greece-migrant-pushbacks-expulsion-Evros-TurkeyOct 07 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewhumanitarian.org | The New Humanitarian | Greece’s ‘new tactic’ of migrant expulsionOct 07 18:38
scientesalthough I do know the start difference between 90% and 100% humidityOct 07 18:38
scientes*starkOct 07 18:38
scientesoh interesting I guess this measurement is better for dring abilities http://www.agroatlas.ru/en/content/Climatic_maps/dvv/dvv_09/index.htmlOct 07 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agroatlas.ru | AgroAtlas - Climate - Air humidity deficit map. September .Oct 07 18:39
scientesand there you can see that things do not dry as well in georgia all year roundOct 07 18:40
scienteshttp://www.agroatlas.ru/en/content/Climatic_maps/dvv/dvv_06/index.htmlOct 07 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agroatlas.ru | AgroAtlas - Climate - Air humidity deficit map. June .Oct 07 18:40
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MinceRscientes: some code would still need to have the ability to manage memory, thoughOct 07 19:02
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schestowitzzoobab: "Tillis and Blackburn Introduce Anti-Hacking Bill Aimed at Protecting COVID-19 Vaccine Research"Oct 07 19:10
scientesMinceR, you are right that the memory management code in Linux is inline assemblyOct 07 19:10
schestowitzFrom Watch'dawg' just nowOct 07 19:10
scientesactually, not even assembly, but inline raw bytesOct 07 19:11
scientes(with enough documentation that it is GPL)Oct 07 19:11
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smnthermes> ‎[13:30:43] ‎Ariadne‎: for one, half the people involved in devuan are doing it for the wrong reasonsOct 07 20:34
smnthermesWhat do you mean?Oct 07 20:34
schestowitzAriadne: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/Oct 07 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cyberciti.biz | nixCraft - Linux and Unix tutorials for new and seasoned sysadminOct 07 20:35
schestowitzpublished minutes ago: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-set-up-wireguard-vpn-server-on-alpine-linux/Oct 07 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cyberciti.biz | Alpine Linux set up WireGuard VPN server - nixCraftOct 07 20:35
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zoobabhttps://www.facebook.com/openinventionnetwork/posts/3512712772112775Oct 07 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open Source Software (OSS) is creating a... - Open Invention Network | FacebookOct 07 20:41
schestowitz" In addition, a number of our community members are sponsoring the event, including #Google, #IBM, #Salesforce, #RedHat, #SUSE and #Microsoft."Oct 07 20:43
schestowitzStay classyOct 07 20:43
schestowitzbut tbh, zoobab, nothing shocking thereOct 07 20:43
schestowitzato has long been friendly to these typesOct 07 20:43
schestowitzit's nc-based and red hat i.e. ibm connectedOct 07 20:43
schestowitzis there something jaw-dropping in there that we cannot see easily?Oct 07 20:43
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schestowitzzoobab: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19151541Oct 07 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Monopolies and #OpenSource aren't contradictory when the whole 'open source' and OSI 'thing' is just an #openwashing veil for #ProprietarySoftware (which is where we're at in 2020!!!), complete with... #swpats (!) Oct 07 20:47
schestowitzsebsebseb: I try not to watch 'the news'Oct 07 20:47
schestowitz[15:34] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: do it in Engalnd and ruin the pubs that are already nearly ruinedOct 07 20:48
schestowitzthey were never essentialOct 07 20:48
schestowitzI see people there unmasked, uncaring, mingling with anyone who passes byOct 07 20:48
schestowitznobody enforces the rules there, so what's the point even having such rules?Oct 07 20:48
schestowitzwhich everyone will flout without consequences, not even denial of service (let alone fines)Oct 07 20:49
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XRevan86https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-1056-release-notes/Oct 07 22:38
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