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schestowitz | Ariadne: pleroma site and fr still not online, I hope the backup he said he had recovered are still workable | Dec 13 00:28 |
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schestowitz | can wait, just hope he didn't lose all the data. | Dec 13 00:28 |
Ariadne | i'm putting together a 486 machine for playing simtower | Dec 13 00:38 |
schestowitz | wow, nostalgia | Dec 13 00:41 |
MinceR | :) | Dec 13 00:41 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Well, this Microsoft Edge on Chromium thing is the realization, sort of, of something I said about 20 years ago. | Dec 13 03:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | I said if Microsoft can't do better than Internet Explorer, they should just use Mozilla because it's open source. | Dec 13 03:27 |
schestowitz | they make proprietary | Dec 13 03:27 |
schestowitz | on top of FakeFOSS(R) | Dec 13 03:28 |
search_social | microsoft is indeed using mozilla | Dec 13 03:28 |
search_social | in more ways than one | Dec 13 03:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | The whole Edge thing is an admission that they had no pull anyway. They could implement anything they want in their browser, but with 4-5% they can't compel anyone to adopt it. | Dec 13 03:28 |
schestowitz | many browsers are on 'phones' now | Dec 13 03:28 |
schestowitz | so that's a lot of stuff out of their reach | Dec 13 03:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | Instead of dicking around trying to adapt EdgeHTML to behave like Chromium, why not just fire a bunch of people and turn Edge into this Hannibal Lecter thing. Chromium with a different face. | Dec 13 03:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | The funniest part was when Microsoft complained on a blog that Google was sabotaging them deliberately. | Dec 13 03:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like, doing some sort of invisible overlay frame on Youtube videos so that Edge's hardware acceleration would misbehave. | Dec 13 03:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | Google meant to cause them to do this. It can still implement anything it wants in Chromium and now Microsoft is just along for the ride. | Dec 13 03:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "so that's a lot of stuff out of "> Yeah, except they do Edge on Android and iOS to sync with Edge on Windows. | Dec 13 03:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | So they try to draw people to Edge by having a port to those platforms. | Dec 13 03:31 |
schestowitz | who uses this? | Dec 13 03:31 |
schestowitz | except you.. | Dec 13 03:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | Fedora KDE developers. | Dec 13 03:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zdnet.com/article/goodbye-centos-hello-rocky-linux/ | Dec 13 03:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Goodbye CentOS, hello Rocky Linux | ZDNet | Dec 13 03:32 | |
DaemonFC[m] | 650 potential contributors. | Dec 13 03:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oracle Linux might be freeware, but it has no community and it doesn't want one. | Dec 13 03:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | So that announcement was ridiculous. | Dec 13 03:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: They sent me some Solaris stuff but never the Linux discs. | Dec 13 03:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | I was running Solaris on some systems back when Sun was opening it up. | Dec 13 03:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | Surprisingly, the installation and functionality of OpenSolaris on those systems was pretty good. | Dec 13 03:35 |
schestowitz | [03:31] <DaemonFC[m]> Fedora KDE developers. | Dec 13 03:35 |
schestowitz | 'Developers' | Dec 13 03:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | I've never actually gotten BSD to work properly on anything. | Dec 13 03:35 |
schestowitz | the ones you mentioned don't seem to be developers | Dec 13 03:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | You never know. The CEO uses a Mac. | Dec 13 03:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | Hard pressure on employees to use Google stuff instead of the stuff that had been working just fine for years. | Dec 13 03:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | When something is in "the cloud" and they shut it down or change it, you are screwed if it doesn't work the way you need it to anymore. | Dec 13 03:36 |
schestowitz | the old CO | Dec 13 03:37 |
schestowitz | CEO | Dec 13 03:37 |
schestowitz | the new one is likely on GNU/Linux | Dec 13 03:37 |
schestowitz | Paul | Dec 13 03:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Things took a bad turn at Red Hat when they brought in a CEO that had no FOSS background at all. | Dec 13 03:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Former airline executive. | Dec 13 03:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | It started a comedy of errors that peaked with them being scrapped for parts for IBM. | Dec 13 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Intel has been rapidly updating their graphics drivers. | Dec 13 03:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | I had Windows 10 hard freeze on me during Fallout New Vegas. | Dec 13 03:39 |
Ariadne | https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/B07Q4Q8KV5?qid=1607830645296&sr=0-1&ref_=srh_res_product_title | Dec 13 03:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-aws.amazon.com | AWS Marketplace: Alpine Linux with Docker | Dec 13 03:39 | |
Ariadne | welcome to the next level of FOSS grift | Dec 13 03:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's a lot of conflicts with this program even though it was built for Windows and they'll still sell you a copy. | Dec 13 03:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | No interest in going back and fixing things I guess. | Dec 13 03:39 |
search_social | Ariadne: why is it grift to offer a linux image when selling a cloud instance | Dec 13 03:40 |
Ariadne | that person is selling something that is being given away for free | Dec 13 03:41 |
Ariadne | there is no such thing as an alpine license | Dec 13 03:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | They dumbed down Fallout 4 a lot. | Dec 13 03:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | They farmed out New Vegas to Obsidian. | Dec 13 03:42 |
Ariadne | if they were burning alpine ISOs to a CD and shipping it out that's one thing | Dec 13 03:42 |
search_social | they aren't selling alpine they are selling a cloud instance | Dec 13 03:42 |
search_social | and offering to install alpine on it for you | Dec 13 03:42 |
Ariadne | amazon is selling the instance | Dec 13 03:42 |
Ariadne | there are official alpine images for amazon instances that are free | Dec 13 03:43 |
Ariadne | you're paying $0.50/hr+ to use this alpine image vs the official one which is $0/hr | Dec 13 03:43 |
Ariadne | that is why it's grify | Dec 13 03:43 |
Ariadne | grift* | Dec 13 03:43 |
Ariadne | he is taking advantage of people who don't know better | Dec 13 03:44 |
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search_social | well | Dec 13 03:54 |
search_social | at least he's an indepent guy | Dec 13 03:54 |
search_social | and not amazon itself | Dec 13 03:55 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I get why people would do "cloud" server stuff. | Dec 13 04:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | But an office program? Come on. | Dec 13 04:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | Compressed on the disk, LibreOffice only uses a couple hundred MB. | Dec 13 04:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think people miss the point in their reviews of Fallout games. | Dec 13 04:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | They complained that there aren't enough monsters in New Vegas out in the wastelands. | Dec 13 04:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's not the main point. | Dec 13 04:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's not a run and gun shooter, it's an RPG. | Dec 13 04:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's an easy and very easy mode, but even on normal it's not a difficult game. | Dec 13 04:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | These wireless mice are all pretty janky, I think. | Dec 13 04:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | They go into some sort of power management mode to get long battery life and there's a delay in moving the mouse and having the pointer respond if you haven't been using it for a few seconds. | Dec 13 04:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Logitech one I was using before was worse because the power management in the OS would try to power down the USB port and then the mouse wouldn't respond at all until the computer woke up the port the next time. | Dec 13 04:37 |
search_social | ha ha | Dec 13 04:39 |
search_social | i wonder if they can just keylog the wireless keyboard | Dec 13 04:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | I just didn't want to tie up a USB port. | Dec 13 04:41 |
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Ariadne | schestowitz: https://gizmodo.com/u-s-schools-are-buying-phone-hacking-tech-that-the-fbi-1845862393?scrolla=5eb6d68b7fedc32c19ef33b4 | Dec 13 05:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | U.S. Schools Are Buying Cellebrite Phone-Hacking Tech | Dec 13 05:09 | |
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scientes | Ariadne, what do you expect in the land of the free? | Dec 13 05:41 |
scientes | That is the price of freedom, of course. | Dec 13 05:42 |
scientes | How would the US have freedom if it didn't buy it from China? Are you stupid? | Dec 13 05:44 |
search_social | eh this might be a good development | Dec 13 06:02 |
search_social | teaches kids the improtance of device security | Dec 13 06:02 |
schestowitz | Ariadne: the GPL allows the selling of it, but legality and morality are different things | Dec 13 06:55 |
Ariadne | schestowitz: yes, but alpine is trademarked and you're not allowed to just use our trademarks like that | Dec 13 07:02 |
*schestowitz did not open the above link, bad domain | Dec 13 07:03 | |
Ariadne | anyway, i've pinged some AWS people | Dec 13 07:04 |
Ariadne | if they don't take it down, i'll just hand it over to alpine legal | Dec 13 07:05 |
Ariadne | but that person is making money by selling an outdated alpine image with security holes and not even offering support for it | Dec 13 07:05 |
schestowitz | they're not so responsive http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/06/28/aws-ddos/ | Dec 13 07:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Amazon AWS Used for DDOS Attacks Against My Web Sites, Amazon Takes 14 Hours to Reply But Not Take Action (Updatedx5) | Dec 13 07:05 | |
Ariadne | yes, i suspect they will be more responsive when they hear from our lawyers | Dec 13 07:06 |
Ariadne | (: | Dec 13 07:06 |
search_social | wouldn't preventing their instances from being used for ddos be like the first thing they coded automatic protection for | Dec 13 07:12 |
CrystalMath | Ariadne: wait, i don't get it | Dec 13 07:23 |
CrystalMath | Ariadne: you're blaming amazon for charging for the use of their server? | Dec 13 07:24 |
schestowitz | BTW, Ariadne, I've message href directly a few hours ago in IRC | Dec 13 07:24 |
schestowitz | *messaged | Dec 13 07:24 |
CrystalMath | they're selling the instance - of course, it's time on their machine they're selling, not the software | Dec 13 07:24 |
schestowitz | Bad reviews | Dec 13 07:25 |
schestowitz | 2/5 | Dec 13 07:25 |
schestowitz | So not very good support, either, I guess | Dec 13 07:25 |
schestowitz | They even use the Alpine logo | Dec 13 07:25 |
schestowitz | which raises more issues | Dec 13 07:25 |
CrystalMath | umm, if you can't sell Alpine Linux as it is, it's not free software | Dec 13 07:25 |
schestowitz | "Alpine Linux with Docker" is not "Instance with Alpine Linux and Docker preloaded" | Dec 13 07:26 |
CrystalMath | i understand the protection of a trademark in the case of modification | Dec 13 07:26 |
CrystalMath | but verbatim resale? | Dec 13 07:26 |
CrystalMath | what? do i owe samsung if i want to sell a samsung TV? | Dec 13 07:26 |
CrystalMath | bullcrap | Dec 13 07:26 |
schestowitz | libreoffice had it done to them in 'Windows Store' IIRC | Dec 13 07:26 |
CrystalMath | i mean, it's totally okay to sell Alpine Linux | Dec 13 07:27 |
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schestowitz | and there was another major project which it was done for, can't recall which one now | Dec 13 07:27 |
CrystalMath | as it is, verbatim | Dec 13 07:27 |
CrystalMath | why not? | Dec 13 07:27 |
CrystalMath | it's totally okay to sell Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.. | Dec 13 07:27 |
CrystalMath | Richard Stallman even says we should use every opportunity, because getting free software out there is something good | Dec 13 07:28 |
schestowitz | I forgot who this was done to after libreoffice, maybe krita? | Dec 13 07:28 |
schestowitz | Oh, notice how WSL vanished | Dec 13 07:28 |
schestowitz | nobody has mentioned it in over a month | Dec 13 07:29 |
schestowitz | when they don't pay for fluff and 'prepared' piece, it barely exists | Dec 13 07:29 |
schestowitz | they blew millions on "marketing" | Dec 13 07:29 |
*schestowitz should really remember who this was done to after libreoffice because techrights covered it | Dec 13 07:31 | |
CrystalMath | i don't see any problem with selling free software | Dec 13 07:32 |
schestowitz | https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/seller-profile?id=cb7c530c-e0a9-416f-8252-4e25b58ca513&ref=dtl_B07Q4Q8KV5 | Dec 13 07:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-aws.amazon.com | AWS Marketplace: okindev | Dec 13 07:32 | |
schestowitz | "Grafana Alpine Container" | Dec 13 07:32 |
CrystalMath | if it shouldn't be sold, someone will undercut it with a free copy | Dec 13 07:32 |
schestowitz | That's a better description | Dec 13 07:32 |
schestowitz | and the logo | Dec 13 07:33 |
CrystalMath | i would defend the Alpine seller, they did nothing wrong | Dec 13 07:34 |
CrystalMath | i hope they don't give in to Alpine's bullying, either | Dec 13 07:36 |
CrystalMath | furthermore, Linux is a trademark as well | Dec 13 07:37 |
CrystalMath | if there's anyone who has been worthless here, it's the Alpine development team | Dec 13 07:37 |
CrystalMath | they don't do any of the real work, the projects they package do the real work | Dec 13 07:38 |
CrystalMath | all they are is a package list | Dec 13 07:38 |
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CrystalMath | schestowitz: remember that defending free software means defending the right to sell it | Dec 13 07:47 |
CrystalMath | https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.en.html | Dec 13 07:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | Selling Free Software - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation | Dec 13 07:48 | |
CrystalMath | it's not in ANY shape or form "grift" or "unethical" | Dec 13 07:50 |
CrystalMath | controlling who can sell your software is unethical! | Dec 13 07:50 |
Ariadne | CrystalMath: the grift is that this person is representing their software as the official alpine AMIs | Dec 13 07:59 |
Ariadne | CrystalMath: you are paying him $2500 yearly for an outdated image with security holes and zero support | Dec 13 07:59 |
Ariadne | CrystalMath: i have no objection to people selling alpine, as long as they are doing so in an honest way | Dec 13 07:59 |
Ariadne | this however is just a scam | Dec 13 08:00 |
CrystalMath | i can sell firefox for $1,000,000 | Dec 13 08:01 |
CrystalMath | even 4.0 | Dec 13 08:01 |
CrystalMath | even 1.0 | Dec 13 08:01 |
Ariadne | yes, and if you do so without describing your relationship with firefox, mozilla will sue you | Dec 13 08:01 |
CrystalMath | on what basis? | Dec 13 08:01 |
CrystalMath | i'm not selling my own product | Dec 13 08:01 |
CrystalMath | i'm selling the verbatim firefox, as it is | Dec 13 08:02 |
Ariadne | on the basis that you're using their trademarks in an unauthorized way | Dec 13 08:02 |
CrystalMath | how so? it is the real firefox | Dec 13 08:02 |
Ariadne | it is, but it is a no longer supported firefox version | Dec 13 08:02 |
Ariadne | something their trademark policy explicitly disallows | Dec 13 08:02 |
CrystalMath | so what? you're trying to say i can't distribute 4.0? | Dec 13 08:02 |
CrystalMath | i see no mention of versions in their trademark policy | Dec 13 08:03 |
Ariadne | ok, try it and see what happens to you | Dec 13 08:03 |
CrystalMath | i'm quite sure i have, not sold, but distributed | Dec 13 08:04 |
CrystalMath | and i'm quite sure those uploads are still up | Dec 13 08:04 |
Ariadne | and, finally, the majority of the alpine base system outside of the linux kernel is directly maintained by alpine contributors | Dec 13 08:04 |
CrystalMath | i'm quite sure people sell debian 6 | Dec 13 08:04 |
Ariadne | so really you haven't any idea what you're talking about | Dec 13 08:04 |
CrystalMath | oh wait... debian 6 has a rebranded firefox | Dec 13 08:05 |
CrystalMath | but... | Dec 13 08:05 |
Ariadne | yes | Dec 13 08:05 |
CrystalMath | debian 9 for example | Dec 13 08:05 |
Ariadne | because you're not allowed to just do whatever you want | Dec 13 08:05 |
CrystalMath | it contains mozilla firefox | Dec 13 08:05 |
Ariadne | yes | Dec 13 08:05 |
CrystalMath | debian was modifying firefox | Dec 13 08:05 |
Ariadne | because debian made a special agreement | Dec 13 08:05 |
Ariadne | to backport security updates | Dec 13 08:05 |
Ariadne | so even on debian stable | Dec 13 08:05 |
CrystalMath | actually no, debian stable uses ESR | Dec 13 08:05 |
CrystalMath | it does not modify it | Dec 13 08:05 |
Ariadne | you get security updates | Dec 13 08:05 |
CrystalMath | there's no modifications done to it | Dec 13 08:06 |
Ariadne | yes, and it is updated | Dec 13 08:06 |
CrystalMath | sure | Dec 13 08:06 |
Ariadne | per mozilla requirements | Dec 13 08:06 |
CrystalMath | but it is the real firefox | Dec 13 08:06 |
CrystalMath | and you can sell it | Dec 13 08:06 |
CrystalMath | as a part of debian | Dec 13 08:06 |
Ariadne | knock yourself out then | Dec 13 08:06 |
CrystalMath | even though it's not necessarily the latest version | Dec 13 08:06 |
CrystalMath | a debian CD pretty much won't have the latest version | Dec 13 08:06 |
Ariadne | cool | Dec 13 08:06 |
Ariadne | anyway, i have no objection to people selling alpine CDs | Dec 13 08:07 |
Ariadne | what i have objection to is people selling alpine images as a subscription and telling people that this is an official alpine thing they are buying | Dec 13 08:08 |
Ariadne | this is called a "scam" | Dec 13 08:08 |
Ariadne | if i buy an alpine CD from some linux CD vendor, i understand that i am buying a burned CD from some vendor | Dec 13 08:08 |
CrystalMath | it is not the real, official alpine linux? | Dec 13 08:09 |
Ariadne | no | Dec 13 08:09 |
Ariadne | it is not | Dec 13 08:09 |
CrystalMath | so it's modified? | Dec 13 08:09 |
Ariadne | correct | Dec 13 08:09 |
CrystalMath | hmm | Dec 13 08:09 |
CrystalMath | okay, they should change the name then | Dec 13 08:09 |
Ariadne | it is also outdated and contains numerous CVEs | Dec 13 08:09 |
Ariadne | ye | Dec 13 08:09 |
CrystalMath | that doesn't matter | Dec 13 08:09 |
Ariadne | s | Dec 13 08:09 |
Ariadne | i don't care if the person does this, as long as he makes it clear this is not an official alpine image | Dec 13 08:09 |
CrystalMath | i can take alpine linux, name it crapine linux and introduce 1000 more bugs | Dec 13 08:09 |
CrystalMath | as long as i change every instance of alpine to crapine | Dec 13 08:10 |
CrystalMath | :P | Dec 13 08:10 |
Ariadne | correct | Dec 13 08:10 |
Ariadne | however you don't even have to do that | Dec 13 08:10 |
CrystalMath | it would also be hilarious | Dec 13 08:10 |
Ariadne | you just have to not represent it as an official alpine image | Dec 13 08:10 |
Ariadne | "Joe Bloggs' Alpine Image That Costs $2500 Per Year For No Fucking Reason" is fine with me | Dec 13 08:11 |
CrystalMath | well the same seller on AWS | Dec 13 08:11 |
CrystalMath | sells a Grafana Alpine Image | Dec 13 08:11 |
Ariadne | yes | Dec 13 08:11 |
Ariadne | that is fine | Dec 13 08:11 |
CrystalMath | and the one above has no price | Dec 13 08:11 |
CrystalMath | attached to it | Dec 13 08:11 |
Ariadne | that one is $5/month and comes with support | Dec 13 08:11 |
CrystalMath | at least in my 90s browser it doesn't appear to have one | Dec 13 08:11 |
Ariadne | there's some other alpine-based containers | Dec 13 08:11 |
Ariadne | in this case, what they are selling is a clearly modified image | Dec 13 08:12 |
Ariadne | the first image claims to be alpine, and ships with Docker Enterprise EULA | Dec 13 08:12 |
Ariadne | and is modified | Dec 13 08:12 |
Ariadne | that image is not stock alpine, and is not docker enterprise | Dec 13 08:13 |
Ariadne | however it is intended to mislead the user into thinking what you get is docker enterprise installed into alpine | Dec 13 08:13 |
Ariadne | admittedly i do not work for mirantis, but if i were to gather, this individual is not authorized to resell docker enterprise anyway | Dec 13 08:14 |
Ariadne | so basically, that image is described as a bundle-o-warez that you can buy for $2500 yearly | Dec 13 08:14 |
schestowitz | the branding is the issue here | Dec 13 08:15 |
schestowitz | afaict | Dec 13 08:15 |
Ariadne | correct | Dec 13 08:15 |
schestowitz | because it'll tarnisdh your names | Dec 13 08:15 |
schestowitz | fireeye will get fire in the eyes | Dec 13 08:15 |
Ariadne | like i said, he can do whatever he wants | Dec 13 08:15 |
Ariadne | as for fireeye, fuck em :D | Dec 13 08:15 |
schestowitz | and then you have to explain to media that DB thing is years out of date | Dec 13 08:15 |
schestowitz | and not even the fault of alpine but some dodgy person using the brand or misusing it | Dec 13 08:16 |
schestowitz | like a clone site called "techrights" saying Michelle Obama is a dude | Dec 13 08:16 |
Ariadne | (docker enterprise itself is a customized version of alpine) | Dec 13 08:16 |
Ariadne | you literally download ISO and install | Dec 13 08:16 |
Ariadne | though mirantis' alpine enterprise linux offerings are bizzare | Dec 13 08:17 |
Ariadne | there's like 5 different products you can buy from them | Dec 13 08:17 |
Ariadne | similarly where i work produces an paid derivative of alpine (again, with a support contract) | Dec 13 08:17 |
schestowitz | same name? | Dec 13 08:18 |
schestowitz | probably marketed as "alpine by x" | Dec 13 08:18 |
CrystalMath | Crapine will cost $1,000,000/yr, but as i'm unable to organize a way to pay me, i'll ask my users to forward the money to the charity they HATE the most | Dec 13 08:19 |
CrystalMath | i shuold even create a safety database, where the lack of vulnerabilities can be reported | Dec 13 08:20 |
CrystalMath | and then patched to introduce a vulnerability | Dec 13 08:20 |
CrystalMath | also, a feature tracker, to get rid of those pesky features, and request new bugs | Dec 13 08:21 |
CrystalMath | it'd basically just be an art project about hating alpine linux | Dec 13 08:22 |
Ariadne | schestowitz: no. our version is called NSL (Network Services Linux) | Dec 13 08:23 |
schestowitz | similar to an army distro | Dec 13 08:23 |
Ariadne | it targets: switches, routers, firewalls, 4G/5G base stations, etc | Dec 13 08:23 |
schestowitz | whole name I forgot | Dec 13 08:23 |
CrystalMath | "Crapine Linux aims to be the worst linux distribution ever! This is why we've chosen Alpine Linux as our base." | Dec 13 08:24 |
schestowitz | three-letter with an N and L (Linux) | Dec 13 08:24 |
Ariadne | CrystalMath: cool, knock yourself out | Dec 13 08:24 |
CrystalMath | Ariadne: nah, i'll forget all about it tomorrow | Dec 13 08:24 |
CrystalMath | i remember alpine froze up on me in a VM many years ago | Dec 13 08:24 |
CrystalMath | i think it was because of that grsecurity crap | Dec 13 08:25 |
CrystalMath | and i've hated it ever since | Dec 13 08:25 |
Ariadne | grsecurity is gone | Dec 13 08:25 |
Ariadne | brad spengler made sure of that | Dec 13 08:25 |
Ariadne | (: | Dec 13 08:25 |
CrystalMath | i see | Dec 13 08:26 |
CrystalMath | maybe now it's more like the other distros | Dec 13 08:27 |
Ariadne | no, theres quite a bit different | Dec 13 08:34 |
Ariadne | as i said, we maintain our own userspace | Dec 13 08:34 |
Ariadne | it is not gnu/linux | Dec 13 08:34 |
CrystalMath | hmm | Dec 13 08:39 |
CrystalMath | i meant in terms of stability | Dec 13 08:39 |
CrystalMath | because it used to crash quite a bit in 2015 | Dec 13 08:39 |
CrystalMath | or was it 2016? | Dec 13 08:39 |
CrystalMath | no | Dec 13 08:39 |
CrystalMath | anyway, need to sleep | Dec 13 08:39 |
CrystalMath | i'm really sleepy | Dec 13 08:39 |
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search_social | In the embodiment of FIG. 8, the instructions are “Throw the pickle to speed up commercial.” The user, which is holding a one-handed controller with motion detection, swings his arm to simulate the act of throwing a pickle. As a result, the flying interactive pickle is placed in the burger, and the commercial message “Make it your way” is displayed briefly before the commercial ends and | Dec 13 09:12 |
search_social | the user returns to watching the streaming media. | Dec 13 09:13 |
search_social | https://www.fastcompany.com/90185994/sony-files-patent-to-make-tv-ads-into-video-games | Dec 13 09:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fastcompany.com | Sony Files Patent To Make TV Ads Into Video Games | Dec 13 09:13 | |
search_social | https://0x0.st/iF8O.png | Dec 13 09:13 |
schestowitz | people have TVs? | Dec 13 09:13 |
schestowitz | maybe this is the final blow to TVs | Dec 13 09:13 |
search_social | they already make you click to make ads go away | Dec 13 09:15 |
schestowitz | yes | Dec 13 09:15 |
schestowitz | I was about to say this | Dec 13 09:15 |
search_social | they can start making you have to click in certain pattersn | Dec 13 09:15 |
schestowitz | "or you could lazy and just listen to a little more brainwash" | Dec 13 09:15 |
schestowitz | if you mute ads, that already goes a long way as you can also look away | Dec 13 09:16 |
schestowitz | search_social: don't give them ideas! | Dec 13 09:16 |
schestowitz | "press all the mcdonalds" to skil ads | Dec 13 09:16 |
schestowitz | *skip | Dec 13 09:16 |
search_social | i actually already do that for fun | Dec 13 09:16 |
search_social | in cookie clicker | Dec 13 09:16 |
schestowitz | CAPTCHADS | Dec 13 09:16 |
search_social | xdotool and autohotkey | Dec 13 09:16 |
schestowitz | if you can predict location of button | Dec 13 09:17 |
schestowitz | relative to window or screen frame | Dec 13 09:17 |
schestowitz | we use indivious | Dec 13 09:17 |
schestowitz | no ads | Dec 13 09:18 |
schestowitz | no spying either afaict | Dec 13 09:18 |
search_social | well we did it with a pixel | Dec 13 09:23 |
search_social | the power bar was a certain color and floated up and down | Dec 13 09:23 |
search_social | so the .ahk script would wait for the right pixel at the top of the bar | Dec 13 09:23 |
schestowitz | i had to look up autohotkey | Dec 13 09:51 |
schestowitz | it's windows trash | Dec 13 09:51 |
schestowitz | gpl/c++ | Dec 13 09:51 |
schestowitz | but wrong platform | Dec 13 09:51 |
search_social | i was careful to mention xdotool as well | Dec 13 09:51 |
schestowitz | xdotool is very powerful | Dec 13 09:51 |
schestowitz | and you can combine and pipe it with other programs | Dec 13 09:52 |
schestowitz | here is how I maintain http://schestowitz.com/2020/12/13/ | Dec 13 09:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Dec 13 09:52 | |
search_social | i'm trying to get a matrix/discord bridge so i can mount invasions of my discord servers with my matrix friends | Dec 13 09:52 |
search_social | i think it will be easier to persuade them to switch if i come with a group | Dec 13 09:52 |
schestowitz | xinput disable 10 | Dec 13 09:53 |
schestowitz | xdotool mousemove 1910 1050 | Dec 13 09:53 |
schestowitz | xdotool key --delay 1 ctrl+v | Dec 13 09:53 |
schestowitz | # xdotool click 2 | Dec 13 09:53 |
schestowitz | # sleep 0.4 | Dec 13 09:53 |
schestowitz | xdotool key --delay 1 type "</li><hr size='5' />" | Dec 13 09:53 |
schestowitz | xdotool key --delay 1 Tab Tab Tab KP_Enter Tab KP_Enter Tab KP_Enter | Dec 13 09:53 |
schestowitz | xdotool key --delay 1 type "<li>" | Dec 13 09:53 |
schestowitz | xdotool key --delay 1 KP_Enter Tab KP_Enter Tab KP_Enter | Dec 13 09:53 |
schestowitz | xdotool key --delay 1 ctrl+s | Dec 13 09:53 |
schestowitz | xinput disable 10 | Dec 13 09:54 |
schestowitz | I also added some loops and conditional statements for edge cases | Dec 13 09:54 |
schestowitz | it freezes the external mouse while it does all that, avoiding conflicts | Dec 13 09:54 |
search_social | yeah it's cool | Dec 13 09:54 |
schestowitz | it could be optimised by chaining | Dec 13 09:55 |
search_social | i used it to re-roll for luck in heart of galaxy | Dec 13 09:55 |
schestowitz | and you use xbindkeys to bind that to a gaming mouse's special button | Dec 13 09:55 |
schestowitz | skipping ads is one click only | Dec 13 09:55 |
schestowitz | so it looks like an overkill using xdotool for just that | Dec 13 09:56 |
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schestowitz | LOL https://centos.rip | Dec 13 10:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-centos.rip | The RHEL Project | Dec 13 10:34 | |
schestowitz | Ariadne: href says the site will come back next week | Dec 13 11:18 |
schestowitz | I mean, this week | Dec 13 11:18 |
schestowitz | after the weekend | Dec 13 11:18 |
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schestowitz | https://text.npr.org/381443930 | Dec 13 11:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Marketplace Tech : NPR | Dec 13 11:40 | |
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vZS1_2 | schestowitz: the "Find the *plain text* version at _this address_" in the IRC HTML log isn't a valid IPFS path | Dec 13 12:12 |
schestowitz | IPFS? | Dec 13 12:12 |
schestowitz | it's http, no? | Dec 13 12:12 |
vZS1_2 | For example: "https://ipfs.io/ipfs/irc-log-121220.txt" is not going to work | Dec 13 12:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://ipfs.io/ipfs/irc-log-121220.txt ) | Dec 13 12:13 | |
schestowitz | should I also add a link for ipfs? | Dec 13 12:13 |
vZS1_2 | s/irc-log-121220.txt/CID/ | Dec 13 12:13 |
schestowitz | it would not be simple I must warn | Dec 13 12:13 |
schestowitz | as it's generated in different machines | Dec 13 12:13 |
vZS1_2 | If you click on the link, you'll see what I mean | Dec 13 12:13 |
vZS1_2 | It's not a valid ipfs path | Dec 13 12:13 |
schestowitz | my guess is: | Dec 13 12:14 |
schestowitz | you open the text version | Dec 13 12:14 |
schestowitz | as ipfs cid | Dec 13 12:14 |
schestowitz | not as the copy on the site | Dec 13 12:14 |
schestowitz | and then the relative link is bad | Dec 13 12:14 |
schestowitz | so maybe we need absolute link with base domain | Dec 13 12:14 |
schestowitz | is that what you suggest? | Dec 13 12:14 |
vZS1_2 | I haven't really thought it through. I'm just pointing out the link is broken | Dec 13 12:14 |
vZS1_2 | Also, something doesn't look right from yesterday's IRC logs | Dec 13 12:17 |
vZS1_2 | All I see are your messages | Dec 13 12:17 |
vZS1_2 | maybe I'm looking at the wrong file | Dec 13 12:17 |
vZS1_2 | Ah okay. I was looking at the wrong log fil | Dec 13 12:18 |
vZS1_2 | file* | Dec 13 12:18 |
schestowitz | When Catalin Cimpanu says "Only PostgreSQL databases running on Linux servers have been attacked so far" he's trying to attribute to "Linux" an issue that doesn't have anything to do with Linux or even "PostgreSQL" but incompetent systems administrators. | Dec 13 12:18 |
schestowitz | https://www.zdnet.com/article/pgminer-botnet-attacks-weakly-secured-postgresql-databases/ | Dec 13 12:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PgMiner botnet attacks weakly secured PostgreSQL databases | ZDNet | Dec 13 12:18 | |
schestowitz | WTH? | Dec 13 12:18 |
schestowitz | holy FUD, batman | Dec 13 12:19 |
schestowitz | vZS1_2: I can still 'fix' the text log link | Dec 13 12:19 |
schestowitz | by making it link not in relative form | Dec 13 12:19 |
schestowitz | but absolute with url trail and domain included | Dec 13 12:19 |
schestowitz | I don't know how various people utilise ipfs | Dec 13 12:20 |
schestowitz | so maybe an oversight from me, failing to grasp the failings | Dec 13 12:20 |
schestowitz | one thing I noticed was, ipfs gateways would not render css configs for html logs | Dec 13 12:20 |
schestowitz | the reason being, they insist strongly on httpd | Dec 13 12:20 |
schestowitz | *https | Dec 13 12:20 |
vZS1_2 | I don't really use the gateways. I stay on the CLI. | Dec 13 12:21 |
vZS1_2 | with a real client | Dec 13 12:21 |
vZS1_2 | so I don't know what they're up to with the gateways | Dec 13 12:21 |
vZS1_2 | But I just wanted to check the state of things from the browser today, and I noticed that broken link. | Dec 13 12:21 |
vZS1_2 | I wouldn't really worry about it too much now but worth just keeping track of it in a list somewhere. | Dec 13 12:23 |
vZS1_2 | "When you do that, you start figuring out ways it could happen and then it starts depressing you, and you start sabotaging yourself." | Dec 13 12:30 |
vZS1_2 | DaemonFC[m] incredibly effective and a strategy deployed to stop good projects from starting as well. | Dec 13 12:30 |
schestowitz | we changed domain name more than 10 years ago | Dec 13 12:31 |
schestowitz | that's why I prefer relative paths these days | Dec 13 12:31 |
schestowitz | also gets rid of the "change http to https" tasks | Dec 13 12:31 |
schestowitz | vZS1_2: the strategy was used to knife the baby gnu | Dec 13 12:32 |
schestowitz | zoobab would know, Team UPC uses the same tactics | Dec 13 12:32 |
schestowitz | and it's really getting to him | Dec 13 12:32 |
vZS1_2 | I think it's manageable to change schemes, as long as you automate the entire thing from the outset. And use the DRY principle. | Dec 13 12:32 |
vZS1_2 | You can then just change the scheme at top-level because of the variables being using. Stays dynamic that way. | Dec 13 12:32 |
schestowitz | zoobab: Parroting self-serving lies from the EPO to support the fiction that the UPC is coming https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1013554/upc-progress-on-german-ratification | Dec 13 12:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | UPC – Progress On German Ratification - Intellectual Property - UK | Dec 13 12:33 | |
schestowitz | this is the latest example | Dec 13 12:33 |
schestowitz | vZS1_2: today I saw something in raku I did not like | Dec 13 12:33 |
vZS1_2 | What happened? | Dec 13 12:33 |
schestowitz | https://raku-advent.blog/2020/12/13/day-13-helping-the-github-action-elves/ | Dec 13 12:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-raku-advent.blog | Day 13 – Helping the Github Action elves – Raku Advent Calendar | Dec 13 12:33 | |
schestowitz | No, there is nothing "great" about helping to reinforce Microsoft monopoly and an attack on Free software | Dec 13 12:33 |
schestowitz | I know it's not an official blog or anything | Dec 13 12:33 |
schestowitz | but planet raku had it | Dec 13 12:34 |
schestowitz | they give "mindshare" to the monopoly | Dec 13 12:34 |
schestowitz | I think it's wise to speak to these devs | Dec 13 12:34 |
vZS1_2 | There are GAFAM moles in Raku. | Dec 13 12:34 |
schestowitz | and explain to them the consequence of such posts | Dec 13 12:34 |
vZS1_2 | So it doesn't surprise me | Dec 13 12:34 |
schestowitz | they weaken the projectss autonomy | Dec 13 12:34 |
vZS1_2 | I said this before, you can check the logs. Whether they listen is up to them. Not my project. | Dec 13 12:34 |
schestowitz | [12:34] <vZS1_2> There are GAFAM moles in Raku. | Dec 13 12:35 |
vZS1_2 | Using the IRC nick vZS1 | Dec 13 12:35 |
schestowitz | They are there for "Safety" | Dec 13 12:35 |
schestowitz | They will protect us from "Zealots" | Dec 13 12:35 |
schestowitz | who say GAFAM is bad | Dec 13 12:35 |
schestowitz | and who use words like "silly" | Dec 13 12:35 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/09/29/lame-words/ | Dec 13 12:35 |
vZS1_2 | They can stick it where the sun don't shine. | Dec 13 12:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] It’s Crazy Not to Eliminate Lame Words That Might Offend Somebody | Techrights | Dec 13 12:35 | |
schestowitz | "silly" is a bad word now | Dec 13 12:35 |
schestowitz | "crazy" also | Dec 13 12:35 |
schestowitz | "insane" | Dec 13 12:36 |
schestowitz | so I assume "not sane" as well | Dec 13 12:36 |
schestowitz | "sanity check" is a bad term | Dec 13 12:36 |
schestowitz | can't say that | Dec 13 12:36 |
schestowitz | "not fantastically brilliant"! hERE WE GO! | Dec 13 12:36 |
schestowitz | my code is not fantastically brilliant | Dec 13 12:37 |
schestowitz | I work on code improvements (bug fixes) | Dec 13 12:37 |
schestowitz | otherwise the program might not stay absolutely happily stable (i.e. "crash") | Dec 13 12:38 |
vZS1_2 | bug fix := feature request | Dec 13 12:38 |
vZS1_2 | That's one ShitLab loves to use | Dec 13 12:38 |
schestowitz | you cannot insult bugs | Dec 13 12:38 |
schestowitz | they have feelings too | Dec 13 12:38 |
schestowitz | and the people who code with bugs... they might kill themselves | Dec 13 12:38 |
schestowitz | because of your 'selfish' so-called "bug report" | Dec 13 12:39 |
schestowitz | "safety first, ma mate!" | Dec 13 12:39 |
schestowitz | "Did'ja... solve... I mean, implement... the bu... feature request?" | Dec 13 12:39 |
schestowitz | Do the same in politics | Dec 13 12:40 |
vZS1_2 | Perl used to be an example of autonomy. | Dec 13 12:40 |
schestowitz | Boris is sub-optimal Pry Minister | Dec 13 12:40 |
schestowitz | My taxes are insufficiently not high | Dec 13 12:40 |
vZS1_2 | Perl hackers pretty much all ran their own servers | Dec 13 12:40 |
vZS1_2 | It's a shame what's becoming of them | Dec 13 12:41 |
schestowitz | maybe by design | Dec 13 12:41 |
schestowitz | the guiding hands | Dec 13 12:41 |
schestowitz | of selfish monopolies and their $150,000/annum moles | Dec 13 12:41 |
schestowitz | they always know better because they're paid more | Dec 13 12:41 |
schestowitz | they also always sponsor all the biggest events | Dec 13 12:41 |
schestowitz | with diamonds, silver, gold levels | Dec 13 12:41 |
schestowitz | not like us "neckbeard" plebs | Dec 13 12:42 |
schestowitz | all we get is a name badge | Dec 13 12:42 |
schestowitz | I boycott all those events | Dec 13 12:42 |
schestowitz | they're a discrimination opportunity | Dec 13 12:42 |
vZS1_2 | They're sabotaging their own project. By deskilling their recruits. So they will reap what they sow. | Dec 13 12:42 |
schestowitz | because the rich dominate them, by design | Dec 13 12:42 |
schestowitz | choosing some very expensive hotel | Dec 13 12:42 |
schestowitz | LF is their middleman | Dec 13 12:43 |
schestowitz | separating projects from their communities | Dec 13 12:43 |
schestowitz | so that the podium is reserved for corporate "professional" voices | Dec 13 12:43 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/11/10/cancel-the-linux-foundation/ | Dec 13 12:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Brought as Keynote Speakers People Vastly Worse Than Those Whom It Now ‘Cancels’ for Purely Political Reasons | Techrights | Dec 13 12:43 | |
schestowitz | in techrights we've always been sceptical of such influences | Dec 13 12:43 |
schestowitz | like mjg59 coming here, after working for dodgy interests (track record of sabotage) and now GAFAM | Dec 13 12:44 |
schestowitz | They're coming "in peace" or "to help" where "help" can mean "let's cancel this toxic person" | Dec 13 12:44 |
schestowitz | and then the community gets the message and starts walking away | Dec 13 12:44 |
schestowitz | they don't even need to necessarily take over the project | Dec 13 12:44 |
schestowitz | they might just sabotage it, then walk away | Dec 13 12:44 |
schestowitz | he did this to Linux, but that never worked http://techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/ | Dec 13 12:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hypocrite Forks the Linux Kernel Because of Cultural Characteristics That He Himself is Guilty of | Techrights | Dec 13 12:45 | |
schestowitz | he and Sharp had several goes at it over the years | Dec 13 12:45 |
schestowitz | trying to oust the project's founder | Dec 13 12:45 |
vZS1_2 | Forking is taboo to GAFAM | Dec 13 12:45 |
schestowitz | which only pissed him off even more | Dec 13 12:45 |
vZS1_2 | Anyway. Got stuff to do | Dec 13 12:45 |
schestowitz | last month SFC, after taking Google and MSFT money, hired Sharp | Dec 13 12:45 |
schestowitz | not for anything technical | Dec 13 12:46 |
schestowitz | just a "cancel culture" role | Dec 13 12:46 |
schestowitz | weeding out community | Dec 13 12:46 |
schestowitz | before you go.. | Dec 13 12:46 |
schestowitz | https://centos.rip | Dec 13 12:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-centos.rip | The RHEL Project | Dec 13 12:46 | |
vZS1_2 | Gold. lol | Dec 13 12:47 |
vZS1_2 | Will share | Dec 13 12:47 |
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MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/25/9409da0c35d33f7e.jpg | Dec 13 13:20 |
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vZS1_2 | Got to put some stuff in vcs today for one of the servers. | Dec 13 13:58 |
vZS1_2 | I wrote a bunch of systemd unit files and forgot to add them to the Git repo for that server. | Dec 13 13:59 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Microsoft (Bill Gates) eating a big ($3B~) Trump Taxbreak during Covid... how big was your tax break? https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/kccvau/microsoft_bill_gates_eating_a_big_3b_trump/ | Dec 13 16:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft (Bill Gates) eating a big ($3B~) Trump Taxbreak during Covid... how big was your tax break? : conspiracy | Dec 13 16:29 | |
schestowitz | Re: A Volunteer’s Report on His Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Test injection - Here is his exclusive report on after effects | Dec 13 16:48 |
schestowitz | > *I wasn’t allowed to say anything until today, but it's now done so I am | Dec 13 16:48 |
schestowitz | > free to write about what transpired. I volunteered for the test phase of | Dec 13 16:48 |
schestowitz | > COVID-19 vaccine from Pfizer. The vaccine is the one that has been | Dec 13 16:48 |
schestowitz | > developed in Russia. **It is given in 6 different stages.* | Dec 13 16:48 |
schestowitz | > * | Dec 13 16:49 |
schestowitz | > * | Dec 13 16:49 |
schestowitz | > * I received my first dose at** 6:20 AM yesterday and I just wanted to | Dec 13 16:49 |
schestowitz | > let you all know that it is safe and I’m ok, with иo side effects | Dec 13 16:49 |
schestowitz | > whatsoeveя, and that I feelshκι я чувю себя немного стрно и я думю, | Dec 13 16:49 |
schestowitz | > 0yvey что вытл осные уши. чувству себя немго страо. * | Dec 13 16:49 |
schestowitz | > * | Dec 13 16:49 |
schestowitz | > * | Dec 13 16:49 |
schestowitz | > *Comrade Harv* | Dec 13 16:49 |
XRevan86 | Old joke. | Dec 13 16:49 |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20080516 | Dec 13 16:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4803267) | Dec 13 16:50 | |
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MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/2008055 | Dec 13 17:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4803135) | Dec 13 17:20 | |
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vZS1 | Got every single config on all my servers in VCS now. | Dec 13 17:35 |
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vZS1 | This feels good. | Dec 13 17:35 |
MinceR | that's what she said. | Dec 13 17:36 |
vZS1 | Badumtss | Dec 13 17:36 |
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MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/YTGcqGh.jpg | Dec 13 17:37 |
vZS1 | Xmas and boxing day casualties coming soon. | Dec 13 17:39 |
vZS1 | Christ | Dec 13 17:39 |
vZS1 | What drives people to stampede | Dec 13 17:39 |
MinceR | why aren't people more effective at it | Dec 13 17:39 |
MinceR | there's almost 8 billion humans on this planet and they won't stop breeding | Dec 13 17:39 |
schestowitz | us maybe | Dec 13 17:48 |
schestowitz | not everyone | Dec 13 17:48 |
schestowitz | the religion says few children implies infertility | Dec 13 17:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | I've never seen anything so unprofessional in my life as Windows 10 Professional. | Dec 13 18:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | It has the same constant bombardment of ads and the same privacy problems as Windows 10 Home. | Dec 13 18:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | And the same useless bloatware freemium games. | Dec 13 18:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | People get rid of them and apparently Microsoft installs more. | Dec 13 18:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | You'd figure that paying more for this SKU would mean that at least some of this crap is off by default | Dec 13 18:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "the religion says few children i"> Having children is mostly a vanity project that's good for government that mortgages them for more loans and big business that wants to sell more products. | Dec 13 18:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | Human life is a cheap commodity in Capitalism, and the religions that are in bed with it tell people that life is sacred and don't wear a condom because it's a corrupt bargain. | Dec 13 18:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | If you don't wear condoms there's more dues paying members of religion, more taxpayers to mortgage, more products being sold, more work being extracted from people in exchange for just barely paying rent, etc. | Dec 13 18:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | And more people who need pharmaceuticals because they contracted a disease. | Dec 13 18:14 |
schestowitz | 144 dead https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274 | Dec 13 18:14 |
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schestowitz | US 2300 again | Dec 13 18:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | Sometimes for life. Good business. The HIV dollar. A very strong dollar | Dec 13 18:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | Depending on how much labor there is and how many people there are to do it, sometimes they let you have just enough joy in your own life not to kill yourself | Dec 13 18:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | In some cases, not even that. Apple suppliers and suicide nets. | Dec 13 18:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | Some Asian people throwing themselves off buildings to escape building overpriced junk so that other Asians, like Maricel can live "the real life". | Dec 13 18:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | She's livin' la vida loca and all that. | Dec 13 18:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | The real life. Major lawsuits from all your creditors that you can only pay enough to settle the case because you come home with shopping bags every day from the mall. | Dec 13 18:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | I won't go into too much detail but what they did to Mandy was despicable. | Dec 13 18:22 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Never underestimate what money will do to some people, and what some people will do over money. | Dec 13 18:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | It would be easier for these fuckheads to just sit down and read a book and drive a used car to work and answer their emails (which is half of her job) on a PC. | Dec 13 18:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | But they strut around like peacocks trying to impress people who don't even care. | Dec 13 18:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: More life means life gets devalued. | Dec 13 18:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't increase the value of life to have more life. It's just another part of the crock of shit and lies that we call religion when they say more is better. | Dec 13 18:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | At some point you have thousands of people in your country dying every day and people want to open up so they can go to Applebee's. | Dec 13 18:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | Also, because of being forced to go to church every Sunday (even while dad stayed home except on Easter and Christmas, and mom went off and openly had a licentious affair with a truck driver she knew in High School), I was left to come to my own decisions about religion in a very confused way. | Dec 13 18:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | Because I had no good examples. People in the church cheating on their spouses. Attendance doubling on holidays. Gossip all the time. It just didn't seem like a very moral place. | Dec 13 18:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | And then these same assholes sit in judgment and make you feel guilty about being gay. | Dec 13 18:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | They're just utterly shameless, but we have to stop the train because of me. | Dec 13 18:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | So I was already not impressed before sneaking onto the internet when I was a teenager and being exposed to significantly different views. | Dec 13 18:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | They were handing out free dial up ISP software in the 90s during the dotcom bubble. It was supposed to open up an ad bar when you were online and allegedly that would pay for it, but they were paying several dollars per month per user and making less than a tenth of that on ads. | Dec 13 18:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | So it didn't last very long, but it was long enough for my dad to quietly come in the house one day and sneak up on me and go "What in the hell are you doing! My phone bill better not go up because of this!". | Dec 13 18:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | (It was a local number. They didn't charge for those. It was basically a really long local phone call.) | Dec 13 18:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | For being an engineer who went to college, he gets a lot of crazy ideas and you can't really talk him out of it. When he realizes he was wrong, he doesn't apologize. | Dec 13 18:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | But, you know, by that point I had been secretly browsing around the internet going "Hmm, yeah, okay....". | Dec 13 18:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: We could have 3,000+ dead every day for another year and the open up people would still be shouting that they want to go to Applebee's. | Dec 13 18:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | Threatening to burn down the government and secede from the union so they don't have to wear a mask at the grocery store. | Dec 13 18:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | Trump won the election, you know.... | Dec 13 18:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Also, pretty much everyone at my grandmother's nursing home has COVID right now. | Dec 13 18:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | 90% of the residents and over half the staff. | Dec 13 18:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's a disaster. It's like that in almost every nursing home in Indiana. | Dec 13 18:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | I told mom, "I don't suppose she's going to shut up and stay in her room.". | Dec 13 18:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | She said, "Nope, Amber told me she still does whatever she wants.". | Dec 13 18:36 |
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MinceR | 13 191008 < DaemonFC[m]> I've never seen anything so unprofessional in my life as Windows 10 Professional. | Dec 13 18:39 |
MinceR | well, it's "enterprise" | Dec 13 18:39 |
MinceR | i.e. overcomplicated, overpriced, bloated and useless | Dec 13 18:39 |
schestowitz | Starship | Dec 13 18:40 |
schestowitz | US Starship used WIndows Enterprise Edition | Dec 13 18:41 |
schestowitz | They also have submarine edition | Dec 13 18:41 |
schestowitz | for marketing | Dec 13 18:41 |
schestowitz | Linux CERN Edition | Dec 13 18:41 |
schestowitz | Tesla Einstein Edition | Dec 13 18:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's like 20 settings or something all over Windows 10 that each turn off a piece of the advertising. | Dec 13 18:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | And there's entire articles written as cheat sheets for how to find them all. | Dec 13 18:42 |
MinceR | :> | Dec 13 18:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then there were like 17 settings involving privacy. | Dec 13 18:42 |
schestowitz | enough to tell antitrust regulators that it is doable and give users the illusion they "fixed it" | Dec 13 18:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | But you can only stop it from doing certain specific things, and many of them overlap in what they tell Microsoft about you. | Dec 13 18:43 |
schestowitz | anyway, I'm glad I deal with none of those things | Dec 13 18:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | So you can forget to turn one or two of them off and like 80% of the total information goes to Microsoft anyway. | Dec 13 18:43 |
schestowitz | so to many of us out there it's humour, except those of us dumb enough to think Android is "good" because Windows... "bad" | Dec 13 18:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "enough to tell antitrust regulat"> It is doable to stop it from being so very annoying. | Dec 13 18:44 |
schestowitz | what goes to Microsoft also goes to NSA and others | Dec 13 18:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | But it will take you at least 20 minutes after you set it up to go down the list. | Dec 13 18:44 |
schestowitz | no wonder the US gov. subsidises Microsoft | Dec 13 18:44 |
schestowitz | [18:44] <DaemonFC[m]> But it will take you at least 20 minutes after you set it up to go down the list. | Dec 13 18:44 |
schestowitz | you can install gnu/linux in 10 minutes | Dec 13 18:44 |
schestowitz | minimally guided installations | Dec 13 18:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | Pretty much. | Dec 13 18:44 |
schestowitz | just press ok, choose username and password, boot | Dec 13 18:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'll go over the Debian 11 setup on the older laptop next month. | Dec 13 18:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | Get an idea of what I'm actually dealing with. Version 6 wasn't all that good. | Dec 13 18:45 |
schestowitz | let me know how debian 11 goes | Dec 13 18:45 |
schestowitz | maybe the next machine will have bullseye if it's officially "stable" by then | Dec 13 18:45 |
schestowitz | Debian 10 is really really nice and reliable | Dec 13 18:45 |
schestowitz | I can tell you offhand of no bug in KDE | Dec 13 18:46 |
schestowitz | usually I had a bunch of known issues I had memorised, but not this time | Dec 13 18:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Windows 10 is crashing sometimes just trying to play a video game from 2009. | Dec 13 18:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's like how is this even a thing. | Dec 13 18:46 |
schestowitz | top - 18:46:41 up 137 days, | Dec 13 18:46 |
schestowitz | I reckon I can do 1-2 years uptime | Dec 13 18:46 |
schestowitz | but maybe there will be a critical kernel patch along the way | Dec 13 18:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's pretty much like my experience trying to play through Borderlands 2 on my old laptop. Either the Intel driver would die and need to be restarted by Windows, or Blue Screen of Death. | Dec 13 18:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | Windows Update even managed to put the wrong Intel bluetooth driver on my laptop. | Dec 13 18:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | So Bluetooth worked, but had glitches, and after running the Intel driver update utility, things got much better. | Dec 13 18:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm guessing the reason the 20H2 upgrade was so fast and actually didn't break anything that I've noticed is that the "major upgrades" to Windows 10 are slowing down and it's pretty much down to a few items at this point. | Dec 13 18:49 |
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DaemonFC[m] | There's no major investment in Windows anymore. | Dec 13 18:51 |
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DaemonFC[m] | The switch to Chromium Edge was major, but they did it so that they could fire a bunch of people and claim they had a browser that actually renders pages properly. | Dec 13 18:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Which is does do, but considering that it's just Chromium with some Microsoft branding, that's to be expected. | Dec 13 18:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's why I was perplexed by Edge on Linux and Edge on Mac. There's no real reason to test specifically in Edge because it will render a page the same way as the version of Chromium it's built on top of. | Dec 13 18:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | In fact, that was a lot of the reason for the switch. They could continue solving problems where Chromium rendered something a certain way and EdgeHTML broke, or they could just give up, and they gave up. | Dec 13 18:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | Because, you know, the whole "paying people just to unfuck Edge again" part. | Dec 13 18:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm not at all sure about Mozilla. | Dec 13 18:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | They just gave up their entire office in Mountain View. They blames it on COVID, but between their reduced circumstances, their CEO who might as well be embezzling considering her outrageous salary compared with revenue, the layoffs, etc.... | Dec 13 18:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | The office lease was just another series in the events where Chrome+Clones takes another step and Mozilla falls back. | Dec 13 18:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | And pretty soon there'll be nothing left, and Mozilla will announce that they're firing most of the engineers that remain and will just try to make a browser on top of Chromium. | Dec 13 18:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | They've passively enabled at least some of their reduced circumstances, schestowitz. | Dec 13 18:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like, when Windows started annoying people. Really annoying them to use Edge or changing their default browser back without asking.... Where was the lawsuit? | Dec 13 18:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | This behavior does harm Mozilla. They have standing to sue. They might get an injunction. They'd certainly be no worse off than where they're headed. | Dec 13 18:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | If they could have enjoined Microsoft from doing that and salvaged even 5-6% of Firefox users who were "weedled" over to Edge, then the revenue would have far outweighed the costs of the lawsuit. | Dec 13 19:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Hell, Microsoft may have even settled out of court and handed them cash. | Dec 13 19:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | We'll never know. | Dec 13 19:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Because of Mitchell Baker. | Dec 13 19:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | They're a pushover and they fired their best people. | Dec 13 19:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | And now they're going away. | Dec 13 19:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | You almost have to wonder what's next for Linux default browsers after Firefox is gone. | Dec 13 19:01 |
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DaemonFC[m] | In the 90s there was sort of a dearth of browsers available for Linux, and so most distributions shipped Netscape, which was proprietary, because it was your best shot on Linux at getting pages that worked. | Dec 13 19:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | So it's not too difficult to see the major distributions giving up and packaging Chrome or Chromium. | Dec 13 19:02 |
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DaemonFC[m] | It really doesn't matter much to Google if there are other browsers using their engine. It's yet more control they wield over the web platform. | Dec 13 19:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | And most users will change their search engine anyway because nobody will tolerate Bing very long. | Dec 13 19:04 |
schestowitz | search engines can be made obsolete | Dec 13 19:04 |
schestowitz | but let me explain | Dec 13 19:04 |
schestowitz | let's go back to the basics | Dec 13 19:04 |
schestowitz | the web used to be small | Dec 13 19:04 |
schestowitz | very small | Dec 13 19:04 |
schestowitz | and inflexible | Dec 13 19:04 |
schestowitz | then web had directories | Dec 13 19:04 |
schestowitz | to help sort the small web | Dec 13 19:05 |
schestowitz | altavista came around | Dec 13 19:05 |
schestowitz | that's where the current CEO of Red Hat came from (IBM still pretends it's a separate company, like Microsoft with GitHub... to not scare the fake 'community') | Dec 13 19:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I remember when it was small enough that you could have humans sorting it all out and making sure you didn't have to sort through any crap. | Dec 13 19:05 |
schestowitz | We can walk away from Google as search authority | Dec 13 19:05 |
schestowitz | and screw PageRank | Dec 13 19:05 |
schestowitz | along with bloated browsers | Dec 13 19:05 |
schestowitz | not by changing the Web | Dec 13 19:05 |
schestowitz | it won't change, we have no leverage over w3c anymore | Dec 13 19:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | I mostly use DuckDuckGo, and I know BIng is a factor in that, but it's a meta engine. | Dec 13 19:06 |
schestowitz | so you make an alternative | Dec 13 19:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | And it comes up with a lot of stuff that's just been censored from Google. | Dec 13 19:06 |
schestowitz | and let that grow, based e.g. on lowering obesity of stuff. | Dec 13 19:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | Google is as censored in America as it is in China, it's just the MAFIAA that does most of it here. | Dec 13 19:06 |
schestowitz | you don't need 2MB of data and 2 CPU core to read a short tweet | Dec 13 19:06 |
schestowitz | sometimes I just look things up directly in wikipedia | Dec 13 19:07 |
schestowitz | wikipedia is not perfect | Dec 13 19:07 |
schestowitz | but better than random searching | Dec 13 19:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | Well, why are we putting at least a quad core in every computer? Because we can. It's easy to do now. | Dec 13 19:07 |
schestowitz | google is useful when you debug some rare error message | Dec 13 19:07 |
schestowitz | iirc, that's why brin and page made it in the first place | Dec 13 19:07 |
schestowitz | and they have a dedicated google for linux things | Dec 13 19:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's like why is every TV so nice even if they're cheap as hell? | Dec 13 19:07 |
schestowitz | that disappeared years later | Dec 13 19:08 |
schestowitz | they need a debugging/support resource | Dec 13 19:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | We got to a level of technology where it's cheap to make something 100 times nicer than a "nice" one 30 years ago. | Dec 13 19:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | So you have a 100x nicer TV for 20% of the money. | Dec 13 19:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, and I noticed for tech stuff, DuckDuckGo is pretty much useless. | Dec 13 19:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | You end up using !g. | Dec 13 19:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | We've gotten to a level of technology where the things you need have gone up in price and the things you want are cheap as hell. | Dec 13 19:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | So the government smashes them together and there's no inflation. | Dec 13 19:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | :) | Dec 13 19:10 |
psydroid | doesn't that level of technology we have got to mean we can also make a replacement of the Web that is 100 times nicer than the Web itself? | Dec 13 19:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'd better mail the rent check tomorrow. | Dec 13 19:12 |
psydroid | replacement for* | Dec 13 19:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | The post office is experiencing "delays" that are just ridiculous right now. | Dec 13 19:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | I usually do it no later than the 16th of the month, but I may want to do it on the 14th this time. | Dec 13 19:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | Along with the holidays bogging everything down and people shopping online a lot, the post office has to deal with DeJoy's sabotage that's leftover from Trump trying to steal the election. | Dec 13 19:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The irony is that my dad really liked the movie The Postman. | Dec 13 19:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | And then it's the Post Office that saves us from the Holnist Army in real life. Too weird. | Dec 13 19:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | The United States collapses and then a washing machine salesman starts a violent slave army in the wastelands. | Dec 13 19:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | Only instead of a washing machine salesman, we got a six time bankrupt adulterer who eats four bags of McDonalds and 12 Diet Coked every day. | Dec 13 19:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | Apparently, it was the guy bringing him his Diet Cokes that may have given him COVID. | Dec 13 19:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I spent probably 20 minutes on Fallout New Vegas just trying to figure out a way to kill that bad comedian without taking negative karma. | Dec 13 19:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like reverse pickpocketing him a live grenade while using a Stealth Boy. | Dec 13 19:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Eventually gave up and let him live, for now. | Dec 13 19:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then I came across a game breaking bug, that's still in the main quest storyline, that nobody bothered to fix even though there have been some updates. | Dec 13 19:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | You can talk to the Great Khans to try to get them to back the New California Republic, but then a broken script makes it impossible to talk to the NCR official about it, so your only other option for the NCR storyline to continue is go back and kill them all unless you just want to set the quest to complete using the cheat console. | Dec 13 19:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oh, Bethesda. | Dec 13 19:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | I would call them the Microsoft of video games, but that's EA. | Dec 13 19:21 |
MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: lol | Dec 13 19:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | You'd think that the minimum amount of testing on an RPG would be to make sure that all possible lines of the main story work. | Dec 13 19:22 |
MinceR | you thought zenimax/bethesda did testing? | Dec 13 19:22 |
MinceR | as for the microsoft of video games, microsoft bought zenimax this year | Dec 13 19:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | They obviously don't. Even with all the patches and expansions for Oblivion, it still had well over 20,000 bugs. | Dec 13 19:23 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: sorry I dropped off the convo | Dec 13 19:23 |
MinceR | they're a bunch of suits with not a single clue about videogames | Dec 13 19:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Some of them not that serious, but most of them fixed with Unofficial Patches. | Dec 13 19:23 |
schestowitz | had to finished editing a guest post | Dec 13 19:23 |
schestowitz | and since you just between topics you leave my mind in disarray | Dec 13 19:23 |
MinceR | they just bought the rights to fallout from interplay after fallout 2 came out | Dec 13 19:23 |
MinceR | they also bought id after it already started dying | Dec 13 19:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I got into Fallout because someone gave it to me for Christmas in maybe 1998, I guess. | Dec 13 19:24 |
MinceR | they'll fit right in at microshit. | Dec 13 19:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | It was an isometric style RPG back then because it's what such a computer could do. | Dec 13 19:24 |
schestowitz | try to focus on one topic at a time as that also makes logs more readable and easy to follow; you talk about your husbands's family, then Google, then movies your dad likes... | Dec 13 19:24 |
MinceR | talking is like that :> | Dec 13 19:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Well, it all ties into what the virus is up to, like everything these days. | Dec 13 19:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm assuming that the oligarchy in general is having a field day with this. | Dec 13 19:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | The government forcing what's left of their smaller competitors out of business and creating mass unemployment by edict. Most of the victims, people who were using more government programs than paying taxes. | Dec 13 19:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | Big Pharma getting a license to rush out a vaccine that will cost taxpayers a fortune twice. Once to buy it and then again when the injury compensation program has to pay out all the victims instead of them when some people don't tolerate it well. | Dec 13 19:27 |
MinceR | orban got a license to extend authoritarianism in hungary | Dec 13 19:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's exactly what's happening in Illinois. | Dec 13 19:27 |
MinceR | i suspect the other EU apparatchiks don't really mind it at all, they just have to act like they're opposed to it for a while | Dec 13 19:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | The governor's orders have been far more severe in counties that didn't vote for him. | Dec 13 19:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | Less to do with controlling the virus than making life unbearable for his political opponents. | Dec 13 19:28 |
MinceR | so what if every EU resident that doesn't want to sacrifice everything just so that shitty overpriced german cars can be made even more cheaply emigrates to oceania and america? | Dec 13 19:28 |
MinceR | it will probably be after these apparatchiks go to pension anyway | Dec 13 19:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | Some back of the napkin math led him to the conclusion that if most small business owners are Republicans and he can shut them down and declare Big Business "essential", then the jobs will eventually go there and the people funding his opponents will leave the state or reopen with "what's left" and too weak to oppose him again. | Dec 13 19:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | Good politics, though. | Dec 13 19:30 |
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DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "so what if every EU resident tha"> That's pretty much what happened here over the last few decades. | Dec 13 19:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | My grandparents were dismayed when my aunt bought a Honda in 1985. | Dec 13 19:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | You know what? That thing was still running 30 years later, and they went through 4 Cadillacs in the same amount of time. | Dec 13 19:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | Not because they got tired of them, it's because it's a luxury GM car, so they're endless money pits at 5 or 6 years and you get rid of them. | Dec 13 19:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | Some of them don't give you a choice, like the one where the engine caught fire. | Dec 13 19:32 |
MinceR | :> | Dec 13 19:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | Nobody in my mom's side of the family takes care of anything. | Dec 13 19:33 |
MinceR | BMW loves to make engines that set the car on fire | Dec 13 19:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | So if a 1985 Honda made it 30 years. Imagine how long it would last properly serviced. | Dec 13 19:33 |
MinceR | or they just have no idea what they're doing | Dec 13 19:33 |
MinceR | but they don't have to because brainless hungarian criminals and their like will buy it just like they buy crApple products | Dec 13 19:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | I've heard from people who worked at BMW that they specifically design them to only last a few years. | Dec 13 19:34 |
MinceR | ah, it's a success then | Dec 13 19:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's a goal that everything should work fine for 3-4 years and then it should all start going wrong. | Dec 13 19:34 |
MinceR | i'm not sure if they reliably reach 3 years | Dec 13 19:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | They don't negotiate on the extended warranty. | Dec 13 19:35 |
MinceR | i hear ford has the same policy about recalls: if they haven't scheduled your car to be fixed yet, they'll tell you no recalls apply to it | Dec 13 19:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | BMW has it in the computer what they cost. Maricel bought one for over $5,800 just to extend it from 2 to 5 years | Dec 13 19:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | So what does that tell you? | Dec 13 19:35 |
MinceR | even if they know the design is broken, they'll tell you it's fine until they're ready to service it, or until it self-destructs | Dec 13 19:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | If they anticipate that the car will require almost $6,000 in repairs before it's 5, don't buy it. | Dec 13 19:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | No accountant that was giving their client good advice would say to buy that. | Dec 13 19:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Mom might be improving in some areas. | Dec 13 19:37 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I told her to buy a Toyota next time, about 2 years old, and to take me with her when she goes shopping. | Dec 13 19:37 |
MinceR | :> | Dec 13 19:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | I don't think she just took it from me. Some doctor friend at work said that he and his wife both buy two year old Toyotas and they usually drive them another 15 years before anything serious starts to set in. | Dec 13 19:38 |
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MinceR | my toyota was pretty reliable until it became 20 years old | Dec 13 19:39 |
MinceR | but i don't know how hard it was abused by its earlier owners | Dec 13 19:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | You notice that in the advertising, GM never runs any that suggest you'll be handing it down to the kids when it's 20 years old. | Dec 13 19:39 |
MinceR | :> | Dec 13 19:39 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Mine was making an awful sound last night and then it went away. | Dec 13 19:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Impala again. | Dec 13 19:40 |
schestowitz | I've made some improvements for my static and JavaScript-free 'social control media' that's self-hosted http://schestowitz.com/2020/12/14/ | Dec 13 19:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Dec 13 19:40 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Mom was like "What did it sound like?" I went, "Another $1,000.". | Dec 13 19:40 |
schestowitz | now it adds day of posting | Dec 13 19:40 |
schestowitz | and it updates in real-time | Dec 13 19:40 |
schestowitz | *real time | Dec 13 19:40 |
schestowitz | vZS1: I don't support you use Social Control Media | Dec 13 19:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | They don't want anything to work without Javascript anymore. | Dec 13 19:41 |
schestowitz | even the 'free' ones and 'federated' stuff is too bloated now | Dec 13 19:41 |
schestowitz | for just a bunch of text | Dec 13 19:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | With it turned on they can track you and exploit all sorts of browser vulnerabilities. | Dec 13 19:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | And with most browsers being some sort of Chrome, we have a monoculture that is easier to write once, run anywhere with the malware. | Dec 13 19:41 |
MinceR | Vlad the Impala | Dec 13 19:42 |
vZS1 | I don't use any social media? | Dec 13 19:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | I noticed that Windows 10 Pro has an Application Guard with turns Edge into some sort of isolated virtualized browser appliance. | Dec 13 19:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | But they don't make any way to let you run that as the default. | Dec 13 19:42 |
schestowitz | oops | Dec 13 19:43 |
schestowitz | I mean suppose, vZS1 | Dec 13 19:43 |
schestowitz | we need to replace that too, somehow | Dec 13 19:43 |
schestowitz | replace web | Dec 13 19:43 |
schestowitz | replace clown | Dec 13 19:43 |
schestowitz | replace fake encryption | Dec 13 19:43 |
schestowitz | replace social control media | Dec 13 19:44 |
schestowitz | .. | Dec 13 19:44 |
schestowitz | suckless Internet\ | Dec 13 19:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | The security situation on Windows isn't as horrendous as it was at its lowest point, but at its lowest point, there was none. | Dec 13 19:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | So, take what Microsoft says with a lot of salt. | Dec 13 19:44 |
MinceR | it's worse than none | Dec 13 19:44 |
MinceR | it comes with backdoors | Dec 13 19:44 |
schestowitz | > You won't get anything from Moglen, though someone really ought to look | Dec 13 19:53 |
schestowitz | > into the C&D / legal whatever from Moglen against SFC over their | Dec 13 19:53 |
schestowitz | > trademark. I used to wonder what the deal is, thinking SFC was probably | Dec 13 19:53 |
schestowitz | > innocent, that was quite a while back. | Dec 13 19:53 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 13 19:53 |
schestowitz | > https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2017/nov/03/sflc-legal-action/ | Dec 13 19:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | SFLC Files Bizarre Legal Action Against Its Former Client, Software Freedom Conservancy - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy | Dec 13 19:53 | |
schestowitz | > <https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2017/nov/03/sflc-legal-action/> | Dec 13 19:53 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 13 19:53 |
schestowitz | > Seems less "bizarre" now, but only more interesting. | Dec 13 19:53 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 13 19:53 |
schestowitz | > schestowitz | Dec 13 19:53 |
schestowitz | > is that an SFC thing now? And since when? | Dec 13 19:53 |
schestowitz | > Dec 12 11:45 | Dec 13 19:53 |
schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121220.html#tDec | Dec 13 19:53 |
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schestowitz | > 12 11:45:17> | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > Ariadne | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > that was the original purpose of SFC | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > Dec 12 11:45 | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121220.html#tDec | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > 12 11:45:27> | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > schestowitz | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > tax exemption sieve? | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > Dec 12 11:45 | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121220.html#tDec | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > 12 11:45:30> | Dec 13 19:54 |
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schestowitz | > Ariadne | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > yes, basically | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > Dec 12 11:45 | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121220.html#tDec | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > 12 11:45:37> | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > schestowitz | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > SFC was made for GPL enforcement | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > Dec 12 11:45 | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121220.html#tDec | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > 12 11:45:41> | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > Ariadne | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > no | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > Dec 12 11:45 | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121220.html#tDec | Dec 13 19:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, December 12, 2020 | Dec 13 19:54 | |
schestowitz | > 12 11:45:44> | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > Ariadne | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > GPL enforcement came later | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > Dec 12 11:45 | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121220.html#tDec | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > 12 11:45:49> | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > schestowitz | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > I suppose I need to read up on it | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > Dec 12 11:46 | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121220.html#tDec | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > 12 11:46:02> | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > Ariadne | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > after they decided moglen wasn't doing a good job | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > Dec 12 11:46 | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121220.html#tDec | Dec 13 19:54 |
schestowitz | > 12 11:46:08> | Dec 13 19:55 |
schestowitz | > Ariadne | Dec 13 19:55 |
schestowitz | > its a huge mess | Dec 13 19:55 |
schestowitz | > Dec 12 11:46 | Dec 13 19:55 |
schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121220.html#tDec | Dec 13 19:55 |
schestowitz | > 12 11:46:12> | Dec 13 19:55 |
MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/26/45b6e5599697d307.png | Dec 13 19:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.ajc.com/politics/election/georgia-supreme-court-rejects-trump-appeal/BBXM726DABF55GO4A262RNPDJ4/ | Dec 13 20:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ajc.com | Georgia Supreme Court rejects Trump appeal | Dec 13 20:02 | |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/13/trump-appointee-brett-ludwig-tosses-wisconsin-election-lawsuit/6530303002/ | Dec 13 20:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freep.com | Trump appointee Brett Ludwig tosses Wisconsin election lawsuit | Dec 13 20:03 | |
schestowitz | lol | Dec 13 20:04 |
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vZS1 | IRC is a social | Dec 13 20:10 |
vZS1 | platform* | Dec 13 20:11 |
vZS1 | Less junk | Dec 13 20:11 |
vZS1 | We chat and share stuff | Dec 13 20:11 |
vZS1 | No balkanisation | Dec 13 20:12 |
vZS1 | Which is what puts me off from social media the most | Dec 13 20:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | My annual Christmas tradition has been ruined by COVID. | Dec 13 20:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | No Chinese buffet. | Dec 13 20:13 |
vZS1 | Cook Chinese at home? | Dec 13 20:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, that's a strong possibility. | Dec 13 20:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | I use the slow cooker for almost everything. | Dec 13 20:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | The oven mostly just sits there waiting for the odd frozen pizza or something. | Dec 13 20:15 |
vZS1 | You can make peeking stuff in the slow cooker | Dec 13 20:16 |
vZS1 | peking* | Dec 13 20:16 |
vZS1 | Ribs, beef, etc | Dec 13 20:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | Mandy is just weird. Tells me to turn the heat on while he's sitting around in underwear. | Dec 13 20:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Some of these arguments just go around in circles. I say "Go put your pajamas on. I'm not donating our money to the electric company.". | Dec 13 20:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Without heat or air conditioning, the bill runs about $30-40 a month. | Dec 13 20:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Once you turn those on, they can get up to $100. | Dec 13 20:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Maybe a bit more. | Dec 13 20:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's like running a furnace by throwing cash into it. That's how I think. | Dec 13 20:19 |
vZS1 | I always wear a hoody indoors. Habit | Dec 13 20:20 |
vZS1 | Even during summer | Dec 13 20:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | Well, by not running the heater and letting the temperature just be whatever it is while you layer up, you're saving at least $60 a month, or more. | Dec 13 20:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | We're in a ground level apartment and one of the reason I blurted out "We'll take it." as soon as I saw it was because I know how cheap they are to do heating and air conditioning. | Dec 13 20:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | You don't have to fight temperature extremes as much when more than half your apartment is underground. | Dec 13 20:23 |
vZS1 | Makes sense | Dec 13 20:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's some eccentrics living out in the desert and they always build underground. | Dec 13 20:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: CNN and The Hill on Gates talking about the vaccine again. | Dec 13 20:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | He ridiculed Trump this time. | Dec 13 20:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | He said something like at least the new administration will work with and listen to experts instead of publicly attacking them. | Dec 13 20:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | Which is another thing that's not technically wrong, but like 5 news outlets covering another "Bill Gates takes a shit." story. | Dec 13 20:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | Things got pretty bad under Trump, and Gates is only now criticizing Trump, only now.... | Dec 13 20:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | He not only waited until after Trump was voted out, but until the very moment the last two of his crazy lawsuits went splat. | Dec 13 20:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | Courage..... :P | Dec 13 20:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | He waited until it was absolutely certain Trump would be gone. Not 99.95%. 100%. | Dec 13 20:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then he starts flattering Biden. | Dec 13 20:28 |
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DaemonFC[m] | There's certainly not going to be much that Trump can do about this in his next 38 days as President. But Gates wanted to make sure that last nail was in the coffin because if Trump did somehow manage to sleaze his way back in it wouldn't be good for business having just insulted him. | Dec 13 20:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | I don't think that Gates personally would care as much about the end of democracy in America, which is what the Supreme Court or the other schemes would have meant, as to what it would mean for his ability to keep feasting off this pandemic. | Dec 13 20:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's some democracy left in the United States, but not much. | Dec 13 20:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | Billionaires toy with it as some sort of blood sport, and then you get to pick from the two that are left. | Dec 13 20:35 |
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XRevan86 | https://coub.com/view/1o6teo | Dec 13 21:48 |
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smnthermes | https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/ir8ic6/youtubedlc_an_active_fork_of_youtubedl/ | Dec 13 22:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-old.reddit.com | YouTube-dlc an active fork of YouTube-dl : DataHoarder | Dec 13 22:03 | |
smnthermes | It seems youtube-dl is dying, so someone forked it | Dec 13 22:03 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I found a bad spot in the freezer where some meat didn't freeze all the way. | Dec 13 22:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | So for now I just put a giant tupperware thing of water in that part of the door and told Mandy not to put anything else there. | Dec 13 22:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | Threw $15 worth of meat out. curses | Dec 13 22:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Seal looks okay. Wonder what happened. | Dec 13 22:23 |
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MinceR | 13 230353 < smnthermes> It seems youtube-dl is dying, so someone forked it | Dec 13 23:08 |
MinceR | if that someone had a clue, they wouldn't have hosted it on microsoft shithub | Dec 13 23:08 |
schestowitz | Signs of lack of competence of desire to survive | Dec 13 23:21 |
schestowitz | like so-called 'journalists' who think all they need is a twitter account | Dec 13 23:22 |
schestowitz | or youtube channel | Dec 13 23:22 |
schestowitz | xmas 2014 (5 years before COVID) http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Christmas-Eve/Church-Across-the-Road/church7 | Dec 13 23:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | church7 | Dec 13 23:34 | |
schestowitz | vZS1: I need your advice | Dec 13 23:53 |
schestowitz | if you are around | Dec 13 23:53 |
schestowitz | it's not about e2ee | Dec 13 23:53 |
schestowitz | but anonymity | Dec 13 23:53 |
schestowitz | I have some specs | Dec 13 23:53 |
schestowitz | and it's about EPO | Dec 13 23:53 |
schestowitz | how to securely and anonymously contact managers there | Dec 13 23:54 |
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