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DaemonFC[m]Tesla loses money and the market values it as if it was Ford.Feb 18 00:00
DaemonFC[m]We have a very bad tech bubble going on right now. It's not as bad as it was in 1999, but it's pretty bad.Feb 18 00:00
DaemonFC[m]These streaming video barons are getting too greedy for their own good.Feb 18 00:01
DaemonFC[m]Dilution of the marketplace is going to significantly deflate Netflix eventually.Feb 18 00:01
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]:  Really that kind of double sided.Feb 18 00:57
oiaohmThe Dilution is already causing a lot to go back to bugger copyright infringement.Feb 18 00:58
oiaohmProblem is people budgets only can stretch so far.Feb 18 00:58
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cubexyzis not that people "believe in Microsoft"Feb 18 02:04
cubexyzaside from shareholders that isFeb 18 02:04
cubexyzthey are merely lazy and incurious about finding alternativesFeb 18 02:04
cubexyzalthough there quite a lot of use of android tablets, smartphones etcFeb 18 02:05
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schestowitzeven some shareholders do notFeb 18 02:26
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/W0URmif.pngFeb 18 07:33
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XRevan86MinceR: And then turns out that their house was built on top of a Christian graveyard!Feb 18 11:35
MinceRlolFeb 18 11:36
XRevan86and then portraits around the building start crying with chrismFeb 18 11:39
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sebsebsebMinceR:  1 2 3 AppleFeb 18 12:49
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MinceRsebsebseb: 1 2 3 ibmFeb 18 12:53
sebsebsebMinceR: 4 5 6 RedhatFeb 18 12:54
MinceRsebsebseb: 7 8 9 microsoftFeb 18 12:54
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sebsebseb MinceR 10 11 12 intelFeb 18 12:54
sebsebsebMinceR: 13 14 15 AMDFeb 18 12:55
sebsebseb16 17 18 19 20 MinceRFeb 18 12:56
XRevan86Lotus 1-2-3Feb 18 13:00
MinceR:>Feb 18 13:01
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sebsebsebXRevan86: Microsoft Bob 1993 ( I think or 5 )Feb 18 13:17
sebsebsebMinceR:   oeoirewrewoireworiewrFeb 18 13:17
MinceRsebsebseb: fgsfdsFeb 18 13:18
sebsebsebMinceR: wqqeqweqweFeb 18 13:19
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XRevan86sebsebseb: Yandex.AliceFeb 18 13:32
XRevan86Where there's a Bob, there's an Alice.Feb 18 13:32
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sebsebsebXRevan86: whos alice Feb 18 13:35
sebsebseb?Feb 18 13:35
XRevan86sebsebseb: Someone living next-door.Feb 18 13:40
r_schestowitzGAFAM+Yandex= Gay FamilyFeb 18 13:42
XRevan86YaGAFAMFeb 18 13:46
sebsebsebXRevan86: whereFeb 18 13:46
XRevan86sebsebseb: Near BobFeb 18 13:47
r_schestowitzYahoo is almost irrelevant now, so..Feb 18 13:49
XRevan86So irrelevant I didn't even think of itFeb 18 13:50
r_schestowitzIBM decliningFeb 18 13:50
r_schestowitzOracle? Don't know...Feb 18 13:50
r_schestowitzBut they're more limited in scopeFeb 18 13:50
r_schestowitzFUD as a serviceFeb 18 13:50
XRevan86Enterprise-centric, not as annoyingly present to the end-user.Feb 18 13:51
schestowitzUSS Starship Enterprise?Feb 18 13:55
XRevan86CorporateFeb 18 14:02
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*r_schestowitz never understood when a business or firm or company becomes "ENTERPRISE"Feb 18 14:13
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MinceRwhat i know is that when some IT product is called "enterprise", it is typically unsuitable for any sort of useFeb 18 14:37
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XRevan86https://i.stack.imgur.com/B6AoO.gifv Enterprise-grade qualityFeb 18 14:46
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schestowitzenter-PRICEFeb 18 14:49
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schestowitz"it's more expensive, not necessarily better"Feb 18 14:49
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r_schestowitzXRevan86: you always need gunpowder. explosives and fireworks stuff on your control panelFeb 18 14:51
XRevan86It's illegal not toFeb 18 14:51
r_schestowitzbad for ratinhsFeb 18 14:51
r_schestowitz*ratingsFeb 18 14:51
XRevan86or rather, consoles without gunpowder cost more %)Feb 18 14:51
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r_schestowitzand when you shoot someone the little bullets blasts their 100MG of bodyweightFeb 18 14:52
r_schestowitz*bulletFeb 18 14:52
r_schestowitzbad science in moviesFeb 18 14:52
r_schestowitzworks better with shotgunFeb 18 14:52
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r_schestowitzbecause a slightly bigger bullet or shell can take you one meter back by just piercing your skinFeb 18 14:53
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/06/05f1e4020d5af41c.jpgFeb 18 15:31
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MinceR(cat) (audio:unimportant) https://i.imgur.com/z60gX8a.mp4Feb 18 16:13
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: MinceR I came to the conclusion that whoever is writing the Vivaldi blog posts about Linux has never actually used a Linux distribution.Feb 18 19:47
DaemonFC[m]https://vivaldi.com/blog/linux-more-secure-than-windows/Feb 18 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is Linux more secure than Windows? | Vivaldi BrowserFeb 18 19:47
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superkuhWow. He thinks computer users being able to control their own computers and not be controlled by the OS is a security hole.Feb 18 19:53
superkuhre: "users shouldn't be able to run unsigned executables...etc"Feb 18 19:53
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DaemonFC[m]Yeah, cringeworthy, isn't it?Feb 18 19:55
superkuhYep.Feb 18 19:58
DaemonFC[m]facebook.com##[id^="hyperfeed_story_id_"]:has(a[role^=button]:has(> span:has([data-content="S"]):has([data-content="p"]):has([data-content="o"]):has([data-content="n"]):has([data-content="r"]):has([data-content="e"]):has([data-content="d"])))Feb 18 19:58
DaemonFC[m]There's the adblock plus style rule to get rid of Facebook sponsored posts now.Feb 18 19:59
superkuh"Facebook sponsored posts"?Feb 18 20:00
superkuhIt sounds like those are only things that show up when you make the mistake of using Facebook. So problem already solved.Feb 18 20:01
XRevan86I only trust executable binaries that are signed by FacebookFeb 18 20:02
superkuhHeh.Feb 18 20:02
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MinceRDaemonFC[m]: lolFeb 18 20:23
MinceR"i only run genuine, certified, signed, original microsoft® malware! :smug:"Feb 18 20:24
psydroidhttps://thecorrespondent.com/100/the-new-dot-com-bubble-is-here-its-called-online-advertising/13228924500-22d5fd24Feb 18 20:25
XRevan86If a programmer cannot afford a $100 certificate or it's a community that has no strong authority that would issue it, then that programme does not deserve to exist.Feb 18 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thecorrespondent.com | The new dot com bubble is here: it’s called online advertising - The CorrespondentFeb 18 20:25
psydroidif companies spending money on ads read and understood this, google and facebook would go out of businessFeb 18 20:26
MinceRPKI is not secure to be worth even $0Feb 18 20:27
XRevan86… or you could use one of those leaked keys and make your helloworld.exe look like it's from DropboxFeb 18 20:28
DaemonFC[m]I'm using Vivaldi right now.Feb 18 20:36
DaemonFC[m]The page and font rendering looks better than Firefox, the sync system works better with the mobile version, the layout options are better, and you can offload the compositing to the graphics chip using Vulkan.Feb 18 20:37
superkuhBut it's chrome.Feb 18 20:40
superkuh(chromium is chrome, don't try to change my mind)Feb 18 20:40
MinceRit's the other way aroundFeb 18 20:41
MinceRchrome is a nonfree, more hostile derivative of chromiumFeb 18 20:41
superkuhPffft.Feb 18 20:42
psydroidif you look at all the things you need to do to build firefox, I'd rather not do that againFeb 18 20:43
psydroidbut chromium is basically just chrome slightly degoogledFeb 18 20:43
psydroidit's free software only in nameFeb 18 20:43
MinceRall "modern" browsers suckFeb 18 20:43
MinceRthe "modern" web sucksFeb 18 20:44
MinceRthe w3c and tbl suckFeb 18 20:44
superkuhSo don't use it.Feb 18 20:44
superkuhYou're not wrong.Feb 18 20:44
XRevan86- All governments suck.Feb 18 20:44
XRevan86- Well, leave then.Feb 18 20:44
superkuhYou don't have to use a modern browser.Feb 18 20:45
superkuhThose are only required for sites that are applications.Feb 18 20:45
psydroidor we could build a "new web" and "new web" browsersFeb 18 20:45
superkuhThe web of the 90s is alive on tor.Feb 18 20:46
MinceRmore and more sites are applicationsFeb 18 20:46
MinceRi'm all for building a "new web", browsers includedFeb 18 20:46
psydroidthe web as an applications platform won out over the semantic webFeb 18 21:14
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psydroidthere was a discussion about it on the #talos-workstation channel between people who know much more about that stuff than I doFeb 18 21:18
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MinceReven an applications platform doesn't have to be nearly as baroqueFeb 18 21:26
DaemonFC[m]There's a typo in chrome:flags.Feb 18 21:30
DaemonFC[m]It says "Use Vulkan as graphocs backend".Feb 18 21:30
DaemonFC[m]The new Iris driver for Intel graphics is about 10% faster, overall than the Classic Mesa driver.Feb 18 21:31
DaemonFC[m]So I switched to it early.Feb 18 21:31
DaemonFC[m]It's beating the crap out of their Windows driver in many cases.Feb 18 21:31
DaemonFC[m]Vivaldi supports the ChromecastFeb 18 21:35
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DaemonFC[m]It's not exactly Chromium set to Bing.Feb 18 21:49
DaemonFC[m]They've made many usability improvements in Vivaldi.Feb 18 21:49
DaemonFC[m]Plus I can't exactly put my fingers on the rendering thing. Stuff just looks better in Vivaldi;Feb 18 21:57
DaemonFC[m]I've had to hack my way past some Chromium limitations on things like ad blocking.Feb 18 21:57
DaemonFC[m]There's this nasty Block Adblock thing and on Firefox the rule to block that works, but on Chromium browsers, I had to set ublock-origin to inject a script that freezes the bab script so it never blocks the site.Feb 18 21:58
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DaemonFC[m]I converted a bunch of Johnny Cash to Opus.Feb 18 23:06
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