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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): CentOS Continues Its Demise, Red Hat Issues Puff Pieces ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 00:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” CentOS Continues Its Demise, Red Hat Issues Puff PiecesSep 23 00:00
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techrights-newsLinks 22/09/2022: ExTiX 22.9, Rust 1.64.0, Weston 11.0.0, New Mesa, and OpenCL 3.0.12 | Techrights βš“ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 00:08
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starstreaki like AlmaLinux over Rocky LinuxSep 23 00:12
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Servers: Containers, Clown Computing, and September 2022 Web Server Survey ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” Servers: Containers, Clown Computing, and September 2022 Web Server SurveySep 23 00:12
schestowitz[TR]Alma= MicrosoftersSep 23 00:12
schestowitz[TR]Rocky= notSep 23 00:12
starstreakschestowitz[TR], what makes the difference?Sep 23 00:14
starstreakrocky took forever to release version 9Sep 23 00:14
starstreakthats my reason for the preference Sep 23 00:15
starstreaki used to prefer ScientificLinux vs Centos because SL was faster at releasing the latest rhelSep 23 00:15
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” today's leftoversSep 23 00:15
schestowitz[TR]speed is not everythingSep 23 00:15
schestowitz[TR]anyhow..Sep 23 00:15
schestowitz[TR]if you want speed, use betasSep 23 00:16
starstreakwhat makes alma microsoft?Sep 23 00:17
starstreakif i wanted speed (of releases) i'd choose centos 9 streamSep 23 00:17
starstreakcentos 9 stream is a nice server osSep 23 00:17
starstreakbut i think i would want openbsd or freebsd for a server tbhSep 23 00:18
techrights-ipfs-bot(β„Ή) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 23 00:20
MinceRmake sure you have IPMI, thenSep 23 00:20
MinceRso you can manually power it down when it gets stuck in shutdown :>Sep 23 00:21
starstreakassuming it has the same bugs you've run intoSep 23 00:21
MinceRit's the same systemdSep 23 00:21
MinceRof course it has the same bugsSep 23 00:21
starstreakBSD doesn't have systemdSep 23 00:21
highest_cubist_thrillsoh, someone will find a waySep 23 00:22
highest_cubist_thrillsthats why you need a bsd that doesnt have time for such bullshitSep 23 00:22
starstreakoh you're talking about centos, it doesn't have that bugSep 23 00:22
highest_cubist_thrillsrc.d in openbsd is the very epitome of a canadian init systemSep 23 00:22
MinceRi was talking about centosSep 23 00:22
highest_cubist_thrillsits well-read, polite, unassuming, and doesnt involve itself with any of the fucking nonsense happening south in the united states of linuksSep 23 00:23
highest_cubist_thrillsif you dont want to deal with rc.d it wont bother youSep 23 00:23
highest_cubist_thrillsif you blamed something on rc.d that had fuck-all to do with itSep 23 00:23
highest_cubist_thrillsit would probably still say "im sorry!"Sep 23 00:23
highest_cubist_thrillsand systemd is the precise opposite in every way.Sep 23 00:23
highest_cubist_thrillsits basically the epitome of a german douchebag init systemSep 23 00:24
highest_cubist_thrillsjust the other day mjg thought he saw some "d/s energy" in hackersSep 23 00:24
highest_cubist_thrillsi consider it a stretch.Sep 23 00:24
highest_cubist_thrillssystemd is entirely d/s energy, but he didnt notice that (or didnt mention it)Sep 23 00:24
highest_cubist_thrillssystemd is fine for submissive usersSep 23 00:25
highest_cubist_thrillsand being submissive is no crimeSep 23 00:25
highest_cubist_thrillsthe problem is, the only safeword for systemd is openbsdSep 23 00:25
starstreak:3Sep 23 00:25
mjg59_You don't think Acid Burn telling Dade that he'll be her slave has that?Sep 23 00:25
highest_cubist_thrills You don't think Acid Burn telling Dade that he'll be her slave has that? <- i think the context of all that is just posturing and oneupmanshipSep 23 00:26
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont think youre insane for seeing that.Sep 23 00:26
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i think its interesting that tahts where you take itSep 23 00:26
mjg59_That's clearly not Dade's initial reactionSep 23 00:26
highest_cubist_thrillsnot because im a prude like roySep 23 00:26
highest_cubist_thrillsif i agreed, id have no problem admitting itSep 23 00:26
DaemonFCA stop job is running on....Sep 23 00:26
mjg59_Hence the "You wish" bit tacked on afterwardsSep 23 00:26
highest_cubist_thrillsi dunno, ill watch it again (when im able-- great movie)Sep 23 00:26
highest_cubist_thrillsjust to stay honest.Sep 23 00:26
*DaemonFC "Fuck this". Holds power button.Sep 23 00:26
highest_cubist_thrillsbut itll be a whileSep 23 00:26
highest_cubist_thrillslove the movieSep 23 00:26
highest_cubist_thrillslove jolie.Sep 23 00:27
highest_cubist_thrillsloved most of all, the bit with the rotary phone.Sep 23 00:27
highest_cubist_thrillsthat was awesomeSep 23 00:27
highest_cubist_thrillswe used to have oneSep 23 00:27
DaemonFCmjg59_: kio_slaveSep 23 00:27
DaemonFC:)Sep 23 00:27
DaemonFCMr. SlaveSep 23 00:27
DaemonFCPlantation Mint tea.Sep 23 00:27
highest_cubist_thrillsbut dont stop thereSep 23 00:27
highest_cubist_thrillscheck out the d/s energy in free software projectsSep 23 00:27
DaemonFCDoordash slave.Sep 23 00:27
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause i think thats FINE when its between consenting adultsSep 23 00:28
starstreakmjg59_, i agree with youSep 23 00:28
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i dont consent to systemd Sep 23 00:28
DaemonFCGULAG is a cockroach.Sep 23 00:28
highest_cubist_thrillsand it sucks that when i dont, it takes all my other "friends" away (im playing up that metaphor its true)Sep 23 00:28
highest_cubist_thrillsits not just d/s its control/abuse/gaslightingSep 23 00:28
DaemonFCNo matter how bad the layoffs in Silly Valley get, he'll manage to curl up at the feet of the 1% and keep a job somewhere.Sep 23 00:28
mjg59_Everyone should have the freedom to run the software they want toSep 23 00:28
highest_cubist_thrillsand everyone seems fine with thatSep 23 00:28
highest_cubist_thrills <mjg59_> Everyone should have the freedom to run the software they want to <- easy to saySep 23 00:28
mjg59_And not be obliged to run software they don't want toSep 23 00:28
highest_cubist_thrillsand apparently easy to destroy.Sep 23 00:28
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause it used to be a lot easier to do just thatSep 23 00:29
DaemonFCmjg59_And not be obliged to run software they don't want toSep 23 00:29
highest_cubist_thrillsand i was no expert back thenSep 23 00:29
MinceR23 012650  * DaemonFC "Fuck this". Holds power button.Sep 23 00:29
highest_cubist_thrillsi barely knew what i was doingSep 23 00:29
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i had more freedom at the time.Sep 23 00:29
DaemonFCSpeaking of which, how do I remove shim completely?Sep 23 00:29
MinceRyeah, that's a bit more difficult in a data center :>Sep 23 00:29
highest_cubist_thrillstheyve worked a lot of little insinuations to this messSep 23 00:29
MinceRwhat's all this d/s anyway? electron orbitals?Sep 23 00:29
highest_cubist_thrillsread microsofts pdf of "creating stickiness"Sep 23 00:30
highest_cubist_thrillstheyve done itSep 23 00:30
MinceRcitroen DS?Sep 23 00:30
highest_cubist_thrillsmincer: think the scene in pulp fiction where dude has a ball in his mouthSep 23 00:30
highest_cubist_thrills(a red ball... not...)Sep 23 00:30
mjg59_Could have been sunburnedSep 23 00:30
MinceRicSep 23 00:31
highest_cubist_thrillsfair pointSep 23 00:31
highest_cubist_thrills/me would feel sorry for nearly anyone who had sunburn thereSep 23 00:31
highest_cubist_thrillsfelt sorry for the guy in pulp fiction tooSep 23 00:31
highest_cubist_thrillsfor different reasons obviouslySep 23 00:31
highest_cubist_thrills<mjg59_> And not be obliged to run software they don't want to <- i already went over the effects of secure boot being like election fraudSep 23 00:33
highest_cubist_thrillswhat they do to free software by chaining it altogether is more like gerrymanderingSep 23 00:33
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i dont know how far this metaphor can go before it gives Sep 23 00:33
highest_cubist_thrillsmetaphors always carry a risk of being nitpicked to death and the point being missedSep 23 00:34
highest_cubist_thrillsof course there are also sloppy metaphors that get taken too seriously, which is the opposite problemSep 23 00:34
highest_cubist_thrillswe could do without metaphors entirely but that would be like going around and popping everyones balloonSep 23 00:34
schestowitz[TR]'secure' boot: assuring you boot into an NSA-approved POS with b ack doorsSep 23 00:37
schestowitz[TR]security the mjg59_ way: it MUST have back doorsSep 23 00:37
schestowitz[TR]back doors are securitySep 23 00:37
schestowitz[TR]also, abuses are ethicsSep 23 00:37
schestowitz[TR]lies and "facts"Sep 23 00:37
schestowitz[TR]and picking on vulnerable victims is "social justice"Sep 23 00:37
schestowitz[TR]microsoft is trustSep 23 00:38
schestowitz[TR]community is... trashSep 23 00:38
techrights-news"This tutorial will be helpful for beginners to install firefox 105 on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, Ubuntu 20.04, and Linux Mint 21." 23 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Install Firefox 105 on Ubuntu / Linux Mint - Tips On UnixSep 23 00:39
DaemonFCMinceRyeah, that's a bit more difficult in a data center :>Sep 23 00:39
DaemonFCMaybe that's why Lennart doesn't care about systemd causing shutdown hangs.Sep 23 00:40
techrights-newsHow to Encrypt Sensitive Files Using GnuPG on Linux βš“ δ·‰ Source: Make Use Of | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 00:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to Encrypt Sensitive Files Using GnuPG on LinuxSep 23 00:40
DaemonFCHe can power off his laptop by force like I can.Sep 23 00:40
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: not goodSep 23 00:40
schestowitz[TR]you can lose dataSep 23 00:40
schestowitz[TR]or break filesSep 23 00:41
schestowitz[TR]happened to me recentlySep 23 00:41
DaemonFCIt's usually something unimportant that's hung.Sep 23 00:41
schestowitz[TR]I created a bag animated gifSep 23 00:41
DaemonFCI actually set the timeout lower.Sep 23 00:41
schestowitz[TR]it ran my machine out of ramSep 23 00:41
schestowitz[TR]had to forcible rebootSep 23 00:41
schestowitz[TR]and then the irc logs had binary crap in themSep 23 00:41
DaemonFCIf it's not shut down in 20 seconds, the system just goes ahead and kills that service and proceeds.Sep 23 00:41
schestowitz[TR]had to surgically remove out that cruftSep 23 00:41
schestowitz[TR]otherwise the log files for irc were not generated properltSep 23 00:41
schestowitz[TR]all this because of a force shutdownSep 23 00:41
DaemonFCI have never seen something take longer than 5 seconds to shut down if it's responding.Sep 23 00:42
DaemonFC20 seconds should be more than sufficient.Sep 23 00:42
DaemonFCsystemd defaults to a minute and a half.Sep 23 00:42
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schestowitz[TR]in servers, 5 mins is a long timeSep 23 00:42
schestowitz[TR]if you make the boot take 5 minutes longerSep 23 00:42
schestowitz[TR]that's downtimeSep 23 00:42
schestowitz[TR]maybe the microsoft employee (lLP) thinks it's like windopwsSep 23 00:43
schestowitz[TR]pray for 5  minutes, get coffee, listen to a songSep 23 00:43
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schestowitz[TR]and then the application/task gets shut downSep 23 00:43
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DaemonFCmjg59_'s community.....Dr. Pizza, Jeremy Soule, Alex Graveley, and Rick Jones. Microsoft family.Sep 23 00:44
DaemonFCDon't forget it wasn't just Bill Gates on Epstein's flight logs. Paul Allen and Nathan Myhrvold were too!Sep 23 00:45
DaemonFCPaul Allen....Well, he's dead.Sep 23 00:45
MinceRbut what sort of business card does he have?Sep 23 00:46
schestowitz[TR]ballmer and gates were scheming to stealk allen's moneySep 23 00:47
schestowitz[TR]when they found out he had gotten illSep 23 00:47
schestowitz[TR]company of criminals and sociopathsSep 23 00:47
schestowitz[TR]organised crime basicalySep 23 00:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” today's howtosSep 23 00:47
DaemonFCSweating out of every orifice. Sep 23 00:48
techrights-news"Class::Plain provides a class syntax for the hash-based Perl OO." 23 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Class::Plain - Class Syntax for Hash-Based Perl OO | Yuki Kimoto Perl Blog - Perl Club []Sep 23 00:49
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Could you describe the back doors?Sep 23 00:49
DaemonFCI wonder if a 12 year old girl on Epstein's island had to have Ballmer's balls after the rest of Microsoft's executives took turns on her.Sep 23 00:49
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scientesfucking monkey bitchSep 23 00:49
techrights-newsNiko Matsakis: Rust 2024…the year of everywhere? 23 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Baby StepsSep 23 00:49
scientesrzd steals 1000 roubles from me, NO SHAMESep 23 00:49
schestowitz[TR]"WHO SAID SIT DOWN!? "Sep 23 00:49
schestowitz[TR][picks chair]Sep 23 00:49
scientesI am just this dirty American that desreves to be robbed fromSep 23 00:50
schestowitz[TR]rzd?Sep 23 00:50
scientesand now I wont be able to get much to eat until the metro opens at 5Sep 23 00:50
scientesschestowitz, russian national railway companySep 23 00:50
schestowitz[TR]that's why few people choose to live in russiaSep 23 00:51
scientesand behind glass too so I couldn't give her the smacking she desrevedSep 23 00:51
schestowitz[TR]except those who are "stuck" thereSep 23 00:51
schestowitz[TR]our money here still shows a dead personSep 23 00:51
schestowitz[TR]so we have necrocurrencySep 23 00:51
schestowitz[TR]soon chuckcoinsSep 23 00:52
scientesschestowitz I have had George VI coinsSep 23 00:52
scientespure copper toooSep 23 00:52
scientesso you are judging by the wrong featureSep 23 00:52
scientesthe rouble coins are all super low domination because they are from the inflation crisis a few years backSep 23 00:53
scientes(and Georgia had an inflation crisis, that was long overdue, as soon as the Messiah left)Sep 23 00:53
scienteswhich shows just how bankrupt that Ukraine version 2 isSep 23 00:53
scientes(I am not talking about Georgia, just those Tbilisi fucktards)Sep 23 00:53
schestowitz[TR]georgia's on maaaa mindSep 23 00:54
scientesschestowitz it says that in the Tbilisi metroSep 23 00:54
scientesand there is also a Charlie Chaplain exhibition from before WW2Sep 23 00:54
scientesby an artist that was a huge fanSep 23 00:55
scientesyou see, Charlie Chaplain was warning about Zyclon-B before the invasion of PolandSep 23 00:55
scientesso, before the war startedSep 23 00:55
highest_cubist_thrills Charlie Chaplain was warning about Zyclon-B before the invasion of Poland <- brilliantSep 23 00:55
highest_cubist_thrillsalso he may have been gypsy (roma)Sep 23 00:56
scienteshighest_cubist_thrills, suck a dickSep 23 00:56
scientes /IGNORE  highest_cubist_thrills Sep 23 00:56
highest_cubist_thrillsscientes: i think maybe crossed wires, but it dependsSep 23 00:56
schestowitz[TR] 23 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Charlie Chaplin - WikipediaSep 23 00:56
highest_cubist_thrillson whether youre responding to what i just said, or something earlierSep 23 00:56
schestowitz[TR]had many wivesSep 23 00:57
highest_cubist_thrillsthough its hard to get context from a single word. maybe try asking before you tell me what to do with dicksSep 23 00:57
schestowitz[TR]die in SwitzerlandSep 23 00:57
highest_cubist_thrillsstill, your choiceSep 23 00:57
schestowitz[TR]had kids at old ageSep 23 00:57
scientes 23 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | BBC ON THIS DAY | 4 | 1975: Comic genius Chaplin is knightedSep 23 00:57
scientesschestowitz, also received some Oscars, where he totally doesn't belong with all those anti-commie fascistsSep 23 00:58
schestowitz[TR]"On 1 March 1978, Chaplin's coffin was dug up and stolen from its grave by Roman Wardas and Gantcho Ganev. The body was held for ransom in an attempt to extort money from his widow, Oona Chaplin. The pair were caught in a large police operation in May, and Chaplin's coffin was found buried in a field in the nearby village of Noville. It was re-interred in the Corsier cemetery in a reinforced concrete vault"Sep 23 00:58
scientesschestowitz, the Queen's bastard son is a bit of a fruitcakeSep 23 00:58
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techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: β–‡β–„β–„β–…β–†β–ƒβ–‚β–‡β–β–‚β–…β–‡β–β–†β–†β–ƒβ–‚β–…β–†β–ƒβ–†β–†β–„β–ƒβ–β–…β–…β–…β–†β–ˆβ–„β–…β–…β– avg(k/sec) 42.00 β–•  IPFS upstream: β–β–β–β–‚β–β–ˆβ–ˆβ–‚β–ˆβ–β–β–ˆβ–β–‚β–β–ˆβ–β–β–β–β–β–β–„β–β–β–‚β–β–ˆβ–β–β–β– avg(k/sec) 63.15β–• swarm size (avg): 144.95  βŸ²Sep 23 00:59
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schestowitz[TR]"His paternal grandmother came from the Smith family, who belonged to Romani people"Sep 23 00:59
schestowitz[TR]so highest_cubist_thrills  was rightSep 23 00:59
highest_cubist_thrillsyeah ssometimes im wrong but i dont just make this shit upSep 23 01:00
scientesbut he also is just here to make troubleSep 23 01:01
schestowitz[TR]still alive: 23 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Christopher Chaplin - WikipediaSep 23 01:01
schestowitz[TR]many of his kids (11) were wll knownSep 23 01:01
schestowitz[TR]"when Chaplin was born, his father was 73 years old"Sep 23 01:02
MinceR"and when you're dying i'll be still alive"Sep 23 01:02
schestowitz[TR] 23 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Oona O'Neill - WikipediaSep 23 01:03
scientesXRevan86, after seeing the deep cultural differences of Russia I don't think Abkhazia joining the Russian Federation makes any sense. Just act *as-if* it already was, but leaving the border crossing for trucks/cars, and instead extent RZD passenger service to Abkhazia, with a publically stated goal of going as far as Batumi.Sep 23 01:04
schestowitz[TR]" In her last will, O'Neill, who was a prolific writer of diaries and letters during her life, ordered that all her writings be destroyed, and never published"Sep 23 01:04
schestowitz[TR] 23 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Oona O'Neill - WikipediaSep 23 01:05
scientesnote to self: in Russia it is not a good idea to do business with anyone behind a pane of glass.Sep 23 01:05
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MinceRit's not even a good idea to _be_ in russiaSep 23 01:08
XRevan86scientes: Don't really understand.Sep 23 01:08
MinceRunless you've brought an army with youSep 23 01:08
MinceRor at least a mecha or something.Sep 23 01:08
scientesXRevan86, Russia has so much internal securitySep 23 01:08
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scientesthat there is no disadvantage in being like BelarusSep 23 01:09
schestowitz[TR]'security'Sep 23 01:09
schestowitz[TR]to protect putin from his own peopleSep 23 01:09
scientesschestowitz I didn't *not* say thatSep 23 01:09
scientesschestowitz have you been to the London airports?Sep 23 01:09
scientesit is not any differentSep 23 01:09
scientesthe US airports are actually not like thatSep 23 01:09
XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills, scientes: We got a political channel #techpol now.Sep 23 01:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Police: Inmates got out of Illinois jail with pandemic loans | WGN-TVSep 23 01:11
DaemonFCMore than two dozen criminals in Illinois got fake Paycheck Protection Program loans from the Trump administration and used them to post bail and flee.Sep 23 01:11
DaemonFC 23 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Gemini PortalSep 23 01:16
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DaemonFC 23 01:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | More than two dozen criminals in Illinois got fake Paycheck Protection Program loans from the Trump administration and used them to post bail and flee. | BaronHK's RantsSep 23 01:20
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DaemonFCschestowitz[TR]: mjg59_ is very tetchy, but you say he isn't trans and who am I to argue. 0xBIGBOOBIES are expensive though and that's one plausible need for a lot off Microsoft cash.Sep 23 01:35
DaemonFCMaybe he's just tetchy because he is a 0xBIGBOOB.Sep 23 01:36
starstreakeveryone in here should switch to openBSDSep 23 01:46
MinceRi would, if it performed betterSep 23 01:48
DaemonFCWhere do they plan to put Rust in the Linux kernel?Sep 23 01:49
DaemonFCThe drivers tree?Sep 23 01:49
DaemonFCThe core?Sep 23 01:49
starstreakMinceR, did you ever tweak it for speed?Sep 23 01:51
techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: β–ƒβ–„β–…β–„β–…β–‡β–†β–†β–ˆβ–…β–…β–„β–…β–…β–…β–β–„β–„β–†β–„β–†β–†β–…β–†β–†β–…β–…β–‚β–†β–…β–…β–†β– avg(k/sec) 37.03 β–•  IPFS upstream: β–β–β–β–β–β–‚β–‚β–…β–β–β–ˆβ–β–β–β–ˆβ–β–β–β–β–β–β–‚β–β–β–β–β–β–ˆβ–ˆβ–β–‚β–β–‚β– avg(k/sec) 50.95β–• swarm size (avg): 136.78  βŸ²Sep 23 01:59
immibis_DaemonFC: are these "trans" in the room with us right now?Sep 23 02:00
DaemonFCI'll let you know if I see any.Sep 23 02:01
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DaemonFCMinceR, Here's more "I hate dogs." stuff.Sep 23 02:13
DaemonFCMy cousin went to take care of a home health patient, and the patient's brother left a bunch of pitbulls roaming around the house.Sep 23 02:13
DaemonFCSo my cousin walked in and they mauled her, and Animal Control has the dogs and is going to have them destroyed.Sep 23 02:14
DaemonFCI told my mom they should update the vicious animal law so that their owner gets put down as well for failing to control them.Sep 23 02:14
DaemonFCEveryone be all like "Why does my landlord say NO DOGS!!?!? PITBULLS ARE NICE, REALLY!!!!".Sep 23 02:15
DaemonFCI had a dog that was a nice dog. She never attacked anyone. Absolutely never would.Sep 23 02:15
DaemonFCPeople who own vicious breeds are the reason nobody can have a dog if they rent an apartment.Sep 23 02:15
MinceRstarstreak: no, i didn't know how toSep 23 02:16
MinceR23 030003 < immibis_> DaemonFC: are these "trans" in the room with us right now?Sep 23 02:17
DaemonFCIt's not just that they shit all over the floor and fuck up the house with claws and stuff. Cats can ruin carpet too. The reason why landlords don't allow DOGS is because you open up your door, they leap out and maul someone, and they sue the landlord and his property insurance premiums triple.Sep 23 02:17
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MinceRDaemonFC: lol @ pitbulls being "nice"Sep 23 02:17
DaemonFCReplacing cheap carpet in one room is a few hundred bucks.Sep 23 02:17
DaemonFCHaving a dog leap out and attack someone in your building can be several hundred a month for years in premium hikes on your property insurance.Sep 23 02:18
DaemonFCSo dogs can be a much greater risk to landlords. Some allow it if you get renter's insurance, but most don't because renters know that they can buy a policy that says it covers liability for dog attacks, and then cancel it right after they move in, and the landlord is back in trouble if anything happens.Sep 23 02:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(β„Ή) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 23 02:20
DaemonFCMinceR, When I had a dog, I made sure that it would be of good temperament. She wasn't of a "vicious breed" of any sort. She was fairly smart for a dog. Sep 23 02:21
DaemonFCWorst thing she ever did was bring in a frozen turd and drop it on the floor.Sep 23 02:21
DaemonFCThat was in 16 years.Sep 23 02:21
DaemonFCMy dad laughed so hard he about fell over. I walked up to the dog and asked her what was in her mouth, and she dropped it on the floor. And dad asked what it was and I turned around and said, "A turdcicle.".Sep 23 02:22
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DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], Apparently, there is no Rust anywhere in Webkit.Sep 23 03:04
DaemonFCSo that's a "modern" Web engine that is still free of the disease.Sep 23 03:04
DaemonFCI thought that Python was a disease because major versions broke compatibility and required major code rewrites/refactoring, but Rust does that within a "stable" series, all the time.Sep 23 03:07
DaemonFCRust seems to be Cascade of Attention Deficit Teenagers the Programming Language.Sep 23 03:07
DaemonFCHere I was giving all the credit to Python for making people do this once every decade or so and forcing users to suffer through version breakages and deprecation and removal even though not everything is ever going to be ported. I'm actually impressed. Rust is so much worse and there's a cult forming around it.Sep 23 03:08
techrights-ipfs-bot(β„Ή) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 23 03:20
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], "The CADT people have gone off to β€œdevelop” a buggy browser for Google, Chrome, and its clone, Firefox.Sep 23 03:22
DaemonFCTheir position is that if you’re using a piece of software with a rendering engine that was state-of-the-art in 2020 or 2021 and it’s supposed to render Web sites, that 40% of them should break now if you don’t update. In fact, rarely can you even get through the lifetime of a Firefox ESR before the ShitHubs and the Fakebooks start breaking down and your bank starts screaming and you can’t pay your electric bill.Sep 23 03:22
DaemonFCModern!"Sep 23 03:22
DaemonFCFrom a post that's coming.Sep 23 03:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Will JPEG-XL be the JPEG replacement we’ve been waiting 30 years for? | BaronHK's RantsSep 23 03:37
DaemonFC"The entire point of HEIC/HEVC is to be a huge licensing trap with like 2,752,524,525 patents that you have to go to ~4,732 places to license, so there’s fat chance that Walmart will ever accept prints.Sep 23 03:38
DaemonFCHow are iPhone customers handling this mess?Sep 23 03:38
DaemonFCIf I did switch to an iPhone, I’d just have two annoying manipulative pieces of shit in this house outputting files that literally nobody uses or can even open. Oy vey!"Sep 23 03:38
starstreakyou can change it in settings DaemonFC Sep 23 03:47
starstreakthe iphone can use jpg but the files are going to be double the sizeSep 23 03:49
starstreakI use HEIC and convert from that to jpg when I need toSep 23 03:49
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DaemonFCDid they implement JPEG wrong just to spite the user, like they did for MP3?Sep 23 04:05
DaemonFC:)Sep 23 04:05
DaemonFCMinceR, ^Sep 23 04:06
DaemonFC 23 04:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Web engines that are still free of Rust as of September 2022. Bonus: Cascade of Attention Deficit Web Developers | BaronHK's RantsSep 23 04:11
starstreakall you need is libheif to open it on linucksSep 23 04:12
starstreaki can't say whether or not alac is better than flac, but they're both lossless and alac has hardware decoding support on iphonesSep 23 04:13
starstreakdo any android phones have hardware flac decoding?Sep 23 04:13
DaemonFCALAC is not good.Sep 23 04:13
starstreaki got 51GB of music, mostly in ALACSep 23 04:14
DaemonFCIt's inefficient (bigger files), it is in the MP4 container (so supports DRM), the MP4 container doesn't support checksumming so the file can't report if it's corrupt or not internally, and it uses more CPU time for encoding and decoding than FLAC or WavPack.Sep 23 04:14
starstreakwhere did you copy pasta that fromSep 23 04:15
DaemonFCIf you repacked it all into WavPack Extra High x6, you'd probably get it down to about 45 GB and you'd at least know if the files became corrupt *after* they were transcoded, due to a storage error or something.Sep 23 04:15
starstreakfair enoughSep 23 04:16
DaemonFCFoobar2000 finally deleted refalac as a decoder.Sep 23 04:16
starstreakgood for foobar2000, a windows programSep 23 04:16
DaemonFCffmpeg has their own, it works, and it's a lot faster than Apple's.Sep 23 04:16
starstreakim sure it is, ffmpeg is awesomeSep 23 04:17
starstreaki use audacious and it works fine with alacSep 23 04:17
DaemonFCBasically the only thing refalac was doing was adding several hundred KB to the package so the program could use more CPU cycles playing ALAC files. Meh.Sep 23 04:17
DaemonFCIt's a small improvement given the state of computing now.Sep 23 04:18
starstreakiphones do have hardware decoding support for alac, not sure but i think it does flac as software renderingSep 23 04:18
DaemonFCDoesn't really matter.Sep 23 04:18
DaemonFCFLAC and WavPack both take so little decode time that the thread will run on the slowest core in the phone just fine.Sep 23 04:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(β„Ή) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 23 04:20
starstreakhmmmSep 23 04:21
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DaemonFCHardware decode helpers only really help if it's a portable media player with a very slow processor core and that's literally the only thing it will be doing. These devices tend to have a hardware codec just for MP3 and AAC and a main processor that runs everything else.Sep 23 04:32
DaemonFCSo on some, especially earlier ones, if you added codecs with Rockbox, it made a difference to battery life.Sep 23 04:32
DaemonFCBut even on a Sansa Clip+ it doesn't.Sep 23 04:33
DaemonFCThey got rid of the dedicated codec, and it's all software.Sep 23 04:33
DaemonFCSoftware is cheaper. I think it uses a cheap MIPS CPU or something.Sep 23 04:34
scientesMips has some cool pseudo-simd instructions.Sep 23 04:35
scientesBut you realize mmx was for mp3 right?Sep 23 04:35
scientesThe software for helium/armv8 MVE isn't really publicSep 23 04:37
scientesBut it is way more capable than anything riscvSep 23 04:38
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techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, September 22, 2022 full archive: #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextSep 23 05:54
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techrights-newsThis silly, worthless, impractical gadget only impresses the superficial 23 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to Make Custom Watch Faces for Apple Watch - Make Tech EasierSep 23 05:58
schestowitz[TR]strange dream overnightSep 23 05:59
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schestowitz[TR]queen liz ii promoting tracking devicesSep 23 05:59
schestowitz[TR]and giving them a nameSep 23 05:59
schestowitz[TR]location trackingSep 23 05:59
techrights-newsDon't use Android? 23 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to Stop Android Apps Running in the Background - Make Tech EasierSep 23 06:01
techrights-newsVPN spam disguised as 'article' for ... "LINUX" 23 06:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free VPNs for Linux: Everything You Need to Know - LinuxTechLabSep 23 06:02
AdmFubarwhat were you drinking roy???!Sep 23 06:05
AdmFubar:))Sep 23 06:05
techrights-news3 free Linux security training courses you can take right now 23 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 3 free Linux security training courses you can take right now - Help Net SecuritySep 23 06:05
techrights-newsOpen AI Whisper - Open Source Translation and Transcription - Invidious βš“ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Open AI Whisper - Open Source Translation and Transcription - InvidiousSep 23 06:07
schestowitz[TR]AdmFubar: that dream was actually quite saneSep 23 06:07
schestowitz[TR]we know who likes mass surveillanceSep 23 06:07
AdmFubarif that is sane... what are your crazy ones like?? (makes face of horror)Sep 23 06:10
techrights-newsCSS is doing too much already; no wonder nobody can make a rendering engine anymore... 23 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to Simulate the Onclick Event in CSSSep 23 06:12
schestowitz[TR]AdmFubar: the ones I keep to myselfSep 23 06:12
AdmFubarprobably a good ideaSep 23 06:12
starstreakAdmFubar, Roy is drinking whiskey and pcpSep 23 06:13
AdmFubarnot whiskey and coke?Sep 23 06:15
techrights-newsPubs in town already accepting xmas bookings. And advertise this. It's only SEPTEMBER. I think they're desperate for income. It's tough.Sep 23 06:16
starstreakAdmFubar, im not sure if Roy is into coke but who knowsSep 23 06:17
starstreakpcp helps him lift weights without getting soreSep 23 06:17
AdmFubarhe'll get sore... just won't feel it..... whiskey helps tooSep 23 06:20
techrights-ipfs-bot(β„Ή) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 23 06:20
techrights-newsEnterprise Encryption for Linux 23 06:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Enterprise Encryption for Linux | LinuxSecurity.comSep 23 06:21
techrights-newsWill JPEG-XL be the JPEG replacement we've been waiting 30 years for? | BaronHK’s Rants βš“ δ·‰ Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)Sep 23 06:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Will JPEG-XL be the JPEG replacement we’ve been waiting 30 years for? | BaronHK's RantsSep 23 06:22
techrights-news"Rust is so much worse and there’s a cult forming around it." 23 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Web engines that are still free of Rust as of September 2022. Bonus: Cascade of Attention Deficit Web Developers | BaronHK's RantsSep 23 06:23
starstreaklol daemonfc can't even code but hes writing articles about how bad rust isSep 23 06:24
techrights-news"In Kubernetes 1.25, Validation rules for CustomResourceDefinitions (CRDs) have graduated to Beta!" 23 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Kubernetes 1.25: CustomResourceDefinition Validation Rules Graduate to Beta | KubernetesSep 23 06:24
techrights-news"If Trump had appointed an Inspector General to oversee the program as the law required, perhaps this (and other similar incidents?) may not have happened." 23 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | More than two dozen criminals in Illinois got fake Paycheck Protection Program loans from the Trump administration and used them to post bail and flee. | BaronHK's RantsSep 23 06:26
techrights-news"GNOME 43 highlights, Canonical's new hardware partner, and why we're disappointed in the Framework Chromebook." 23 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux Action News 259 | Jupiter BroadcastingSep 23 06:26
techrights-newsEntertaining webcranks see 23 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | What is Web 3.0?Sep 23 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Aral Balkan: Web3 is Bullshit | TechrightsSep 23 06:27
schestowitz[TR]<starstreak> lol daemonfc can't even code but hes writing articles about how bad rust isSep 23 06:28
schestowitz[TR]yes, a bit ironicSep 23 06:28
schestowitz[TR]but he compensates for it in other waysSep 23 06:28
schestowitz[TR]like studying how systems are put togetherSep 23 06:28
schestowitz[TR]component-wiseSep 23 06:28
starstreakwhile also spewing racism and transphobiaSep 23 06:29
techrights-newsMaria Naz at linuxhint did a 4-part article on using Git.. BUT ASSUMES YOU USE WINDOWS... in a site called LINUX HINT. Facepalm.Sep 23 06:29
starstreakim not defending rust tho, i like golang and CSep 23 06:29
schestowitz[TR]what programs did you write?Sep 23 06:30
starstreaknone lolSep 23 06:30
starstreakim still learningSep 23 06:30
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schestowitz[TR]so same as DaemonFC Sep 23 06:31
techrights-news[cat] gemini:// 23 06:31
starstreakim not about to write an article on why a programming language is good or badSep 23 06:31
techrights-news"I previously wondered how much Forth was like Whitespace I got a Forth interpreter and had a go. I didn't get much beyond beginner level, so take all I say with a pinch of salt." gemini:// 23 06:32
techrights-newsMy Thoughts On The CDG, And How You Can Help Fight The Discoverability Crisis gemini:// 23 06:33
techrights-news"One problem I have always found, as have many others who try out gemini, is difficulty in finding interesting content. There are many contributing factors to why, but lets just say the problem is an ongoing issue that has no real easy solutions." gemini:// 23 06:34
techrights-news"There's an idea being floated about building a decentralized, personalized feed aggregator as opposed to something like Antenna which is open for all to submit to." gemini:// 23 06:34
techrights-news"Additionally, I would caution against building any community where a core goal is to only gather with people who share identical political ideologies. I'm not saying it can't or shouldn't ever be done, but I generally see such communities as unproductive at best and a breeding ground for extremism at worst." gemini:// 23 06:35
techrights-news"I find it utterly bemusing the lack of self-awareness in lefties. I read an article a couple times, on right wing politics on Gemini, and the second time I mentally flipped a few words within to point in the other direction, and it fit perfectly." gemini:// 23 06:35
techrights-news"Spare time flows through me, right now. I’m letting myself enjoy doing /less/ but not /nothing/. I live in hope that these quiet times will restore my soul, such that I can re-enter the World of Work in a manner that suits me - I still have something to give." gemini:// 23 06:36
techrights-newsA few hours ago this was released by Netcraft; it seems clear that Netcraft’s tables already omit Microsoft in all except 2, where Microsoft is placed last and rapidly loses share (it'll fall out of sight soon) 23 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft Will Soon be Unlisted in Netcraft’s Web Survey (Due to Minuscule, Negligible Market Share) | TechrightsSep 23 06:38
techrights-newsFirefox 105 on POWER βš“ δ·‰ Source: Talospace | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 06:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Firefox 105 on POWERSep 23 06:41
techrights-newsMiniature dual camera Full HD or 4K encoder boards support RGB and thermal cameras - CNX Software βš“ δ·‰ Source: CNX SoftwareSep 23 06:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Miniature dual camera Full HD or 4K encoder boards support RGB and thermal cameras - CNX SoftwareSep 23 06:49
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 06:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” today's howtosSep 23 06:49
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): 11 Gorgeous KDE Plasma Themes to Make Your Linux Desktop Even More Beautiful ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 06:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” 11 Gorgeous KDE Plasma Themes to Make Your Linux Desktop Even More BeautifulSep 23 06:49
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): 5 Free and Open-Source Figma Alternatives ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 06:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” 5 Free and Open-Source Figma AlternativesSep 23 06:50
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techrights-news[Old] "Does this mean installing Linux on an NVIDIA-powered machine will be less of a pain? Well, not yet. But eventually, hopefully, that answer will become yes." β˜› | Source: Make Use OfSep 23 06:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | What NVIDIA’s Open-Source Driver Means for LinuxSep 23 06:51
techrights-news"Since this is long and observational, I'll put the summary up front." β˜› | Source: uni TorontoSep 23 06:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/USBTemper2ReadingsNotesSep 23 06:52
techrights-news"Over the years I’ve had a number of people reach out asking how I created the notice boxes on this website." β˜› | Source: Kev QuirkSep 23 06:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to Create a Simple HTML/CSS Notice Box - Kev QuirkSep 23 06:52
techrights-news"Jaromir Talir held a presentation about offline KSK with Knot DNS, and from the terminology he used in 2019 I made this diagram a few years ago to help me better understand the flow of keys." β˜› | Source: Jan Piet MensSep 23 06:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Jan-Piet Mens :: DNSSEC signing with an offline KSKSep 23 06:52
techrights-news"As I'm moving to Linux more and more, I took the opportunity to explore the BTRFS file system which was mostly unknown to me" β˜› | Source: Data SwampSep 23 06:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Solene'% : Sharing some statistics about BTRFS compressionSep 23 06:52
techrights-news[Old] "Guix is pure. It's refreshing to know that I can take any package and reuse its source code for my own purposes without having to worry about commercial restrictions or redistribution." β˜› | Source: Marius BakkeSep 23 06:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | It wasn't for nothing - Grasping gexpsSep 23 06:53
techrights-news"DOSBox Staging is a fork of the original DOSBox aimed at getting new features in faster, along with a better overall experience for users." β˜› | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 23 06:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DOSBox Staging 0.79.0 is out now | GamingOnLinuxSep 23 06:54
techrights-news"Two rather great sandbox mining games are set for an official cross-over. Terraria and the new kid on the block Core Keeper will both be getting free updates for it." β˜› | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 23 06:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Core Keeper and Terraria are getting cross-over updates | GamingOnLinuxSep 23 06:54
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR]> <starstreak> lol daemonfc can't even code but hes writing articles about how bad rust isSep 23 06:54
DaemonFCWith being a user, I can tell you that Python's version deprecation was painful enough.Sep 23 06:54
schestowitz[TR]there is ccorrect abservation aboutr cult-like tacticsSep 23 06:54
schestowitz[TR]which goies byond having a cocSep 23 06:55
schestowitz[TR]hypersensitive crowdSep 23 06:55
schestowitz[TR]that suppresses criticsSep 23 06:55
DaemonFCThere really was never going to be any "everything is ported so we don't need Python 2.7 anymore" day.Sep 23 06:55
mjg59_(cough)Sep 23 06:55
schestowitz[TR]and pushes/foists it swares on peopleSep 23 06:55
schestowitz[TR]it's bloatedSep 23 06:55
schestowitz[TR]c is smallSep 23 06:55
schestowitz[TR]rust is just some pile of ***Sep 23 06:55
DaemonFCMany authors are literally dead and the only reason their program worked was because it had a runtime.Sep 23 06:55
DaemonFCOr are uninterested in porting the program.Sep 23 06:55
DaemonFCThe only language I ever had more trouble with was Perl because of the whole "Some of this is packaged and some of this is CPAN" crap.Sep 23 06:56
schestowitz[TR]with python you have other runtimesSep 23 06:56
schestowitz[TR]but anyway, php does the sameSep 23 06:56
schestowitz[TR]with new versionsSep 23 06:56
schestowitz[TR]so you need to spend time "fixinng" broken things when version upgrades comeSep 23 06:56
schestowitz[TR]massive overheadSep 23 06:56
schestowitz[TR]expect the same from rust Sep 23 06:56
DaemonFCPerl is different in that the modules are all readable, but you still need to be sure you understand what they do.Sep 23 06:57
DaemonFCCobbling things together is just bad form, and this is apparently how "cargo" works.Sep 23 06:57
techrights-news"Devil Daggers was a great time-survival FPS and now the creator is back with HYPER DEMON, which will blow your tiny little mind." β˜› | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 23 06:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-HYPER DEMON is a vision-bending FPS from the creator of Devil Daggers | GamingOnLinuxSep 23 06:57
DaemonFCCargo, cult. Cargo cult.Sep 23 06:57
techrights-news"Humble Bundle are making sure you can get serious this week with The Serious Sam Bundle containing plenty of action ready for you to dive in." β˜› | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 23 06:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Get a whole lot of Serious Sam in this game bundle | GamingOnLinuxSep 23 06:57
DaemonFCThere isn't an OS that doesn't have a C runtime available.Sep 23 06:57
DaemonFCHell, Windows even has approximately 500 of them.Sep 23 06:58
DaemonFCUnfortunately, they're all some tweaked version of MSVCR.Sep 23 06:58
DaemonFCEach one unique, stuffed in the assemblies folder for all time.Sep 23 06:58
DaemonFCmjg59_, "Everyone who is interesting uses Windows." Windows is a bigger and bigger mess the longer you use it until it finally fucks itself so bad you need to reinstall it.Sep 23 06:59
*horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrightsSep 23 06:59
DaemonFCSometimes that's a few years. Sometimes, it blows up right after you just installed it.Sep 23 06:59
techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▄▁▂▇▄▆▇▅▆▆▅▂▅▅▅▃▃▅▆▂▄▆▅▄▆▃▇▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 23.95 β–•  IPFS upstream: β–β–‚β–β–ˆβ–β–β–‚β–β–ˆβ–β–β–β–‚β–β–β–ˆβ–β–‡β–β–‚β–β–ƒβ–β–β–ˆβ–‚β–β–β–β–‚β–ˆβ–β–ˆβ–ˆβ– avg(k/sec) 92.60β–• swarm size (avg): 136.70  βŸ²Sep 23 06:59
DaemonFCMost of Torvalds's "Why we don't use C++" applies to Rust, including the part about Boost.Sep 23 07:01
techrights-news"The Plague Doctor of Wippra will see you attempt to help people but ignorance, superstition, and religious zeal will firmly get in your way." β˜› | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 23 07:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Short point and click adventure The Plague Doctor of Wippra is out on October 5th | GamingOnLinuxSep 23 07:01
techrights-news"Stardeus from developer Kodo Linija (Bloody Rally Show) has found a publisher with Paradox Arc (Paradox Interactive's new publishing arm)." β˜› | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 23 07:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Paradox Arc to publish sci-fi base builder Stardeus, entering Early Access in October | GamingOnLinuxSep 23 07:01
DaemonFCYou can tell a lot about a language by the kind of people it attracts to it.Sep 23 07:02
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: yes, torvalkds was bullied into itSep 23 07:02
schestowitz[TR]it took years of "lobbyisng'Sep 23 07:02
DaemonFCPrograms that have a lot of bugs and memory leaks were written in Python, historically, for me.Sep 23 07:02
schestowitz[TR]and he got tired od being "racist" towards rustSep 23 07:02
techrights-news"GNOME 43 is officially out now, bringing with it some pretty wonderful sounding changes to one of the most popular Linux desktop environments." β˜› | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 23 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNOME 43 is out now with Quick Settings, refreshed Files app and lots more | GamingOnLinuxSep 23 07:03
starstreakooooo Gnome 43Sep 23 07:03
DaemonFCRust is also turning into a major problem for SeaMonkey.Sep 23 07:04
DaemonFCIt's one of the biggest problems to backporting Gecko features.Sep 23 07:04
mjg59_It's undeniable that the majority of vulnerabilities in the Linux kernel are memory safety issues that would be extremely unlikely to exist if Linux were in RustSep 23 07:04
techrights-news"When coreboot makes a new release, I rebase our Librem-specific patches onto it, then run a set of tests on each device" β˜› | Source: PurismSep 23 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How We Fixed Reboot Loops on the Librem Mini – PurismSep 23 07:04
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: you don't care about kernel securitySep 23 07:04
schestowitz[TR]your employer put NSA back doors in linux kenrelSep 23 07:05
DaemonFCFirefox has that damned "Quantum" shit in it that just makes it an even bigger resource suck than ever.Sep 23 07:05
schestowitz[TR]until people shoutedSep 23 07:05
schestowitz[TR]then it was removedSep 23 07:05
schestowitz[TR]months laterSep 23 07:05
DaemonFCAND SeaMonkey can't grab new CSS, DOM, or Compositor code and a lot of other things and backport them anymore because of this.Sep 23 07:05
DaemonFCSeaMonkey now has more in common with Goanna than it does with Gecko.Sep 23 07:05
schestowitz[TR]rust has zero-days all the timeSep 23 07:05
schestowitz[TR]it was sold based on a false promiseSep 23 07:05
schestowitz[TR]same for systemdSep 23 07:06
schestowitz[TR]NSA observes systemdSep 23 07:06
schestowitz[TR]lots of holes in itSep 23 07:06
schestowitz[TR]new shitty codeSep 23 07:06
schestowitz[TR]and controlled by Microsoft, ICBMSep 23 07:06
DaemonFCFirefox's "Quantum" project is basically take MOAAAAAAR CPU and MOAAAAAAR RAM than ever and maybe all the bloated frameworks and shit from GULAG will run faster.Sep 23 07:06
schestowitz[TR]pentagon assetsSep 23 07:06
DaemonFCIt's not good!Sep 23 07:06
techrights-news">When you start a Linux system, it starts with only one process, a program called init." β˜› | Source: Linux HandbookSep 23 07:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Check if You Are Using Systemd or Not in LinuxSep 23 07:06
starstreakSeaMonkey is trashSep 23 07:07
DaemonFCIt splits the Web browser up and has the entire computer's resources devoted to running cryptojackers and session replay scripts and advertising code.Sep 23 07:07
DaemonFCWhich is what mjg59_ calls "security".Sep 23 07:07
DaemonFC(JavaScript)Sep 23 07:07
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: There's literally zero demonstrated weaknesses in Speck. It's legitimate to be concerned about NSA-designed algorithms, but there's no evidence whatsoever of it actually being backdooredSep 23 07:08
DaemonFCNobody has come up with a better way to handle my mail.Sep 23 07:08
schestowitz[TR]you are mocking factsSep 23 07:08
schestowitz[TR]you also libel asssangeSep 23 07:08
schestowitz[TR]because he exposed vault7 stuffSep 23 07:08
schestowitz[TR]showingf how nsa targets linuxxxSep 23 07:08
schestowitz[TR]so ad hominem is what you fall back onSep 23 07:08
schestowitz[TR]and libelSep 23 07:08
mjg59_Vault7 was the CIASep 23 07:09
DaemonFCThe NSA from what I've seen targets mainly RHEL.Sep 23 07:09
schestowitz[TR] 23 07:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Vault7 - HomeSep 23 07:09
schestowitz[TR] 23 07:09
mjg59_Who are, notably, not the NSASep 23 07:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | WikiLeaks - Vault 8Sep 23 07:09
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: not only thatSep 23 07:09
DaemonFCIt's easier to attack a target that isn't moving and plant a kernel module into it that stays working.Sep 23 07:09
DaemonFCAnd Microsoft will sign it for them.Sep 23 07:09
DaemonFCSo "Secure Boot" won't even complain about it.Sep 23 07:10
schestowitz[TR]"signed"... malwareSep 23 07:10
schestowitz[TR]windows... "Secure"Sep 23 07:10
schestowitz[TR]approved by NSASep 23 07:10
schestowitz[TR]for remote access :-)Sep 23 07:10
schestowitz[TR]"SECURITY!!"  "ALIANS!!!"Sep 23 07:10
mjg59_Unclear how Microsoft could sign an ELF object in a way the kernel would acceptSep 23 07:10
DaemonFCI turned of LVFS the other day.Sep 23 07:10
DaemonFCApparently it does nothing at all on my computer except install Microsoft-provided blacklists for versions of GRUB they don't want to work.Sep 23 07:11
DaemonFCThankfully, I read the update release noted before I did anything.Sep 23 07:11
schestowitz[TR]the flamboyant fake 'security  crowd begets disasters like shadow brokeersSep 23 07:12
schestowitz[TR]hospitals shut downSep 23 07:12
schestowitz[TR]thousands dieSep 23 07:12
schestowitz[TR]so that they can have their back doors in placeSep 23 07:12
schestowitz[TR]and we're mant not to blame them and microsoftSep 23 07:12
schestowitz[TR]microsogt even CLAIMS to be tackling the isueSep 23 07:12
schestowitz[TR]that it itself createdSep 23 07:12
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: 23 07:13
mjg59_It's Microsoft's fault that when code is executed as an admin, it can modify the entire filesystem?Sep 23 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | GNOME (IBM/Red Hat Staff) Promoting Microsoft’s β€˜Security’ Scam With the β€˜Secure’ Boot Sham | TechrightsSep 23 07:13
schestowitz[TR]and it uuuses githubSep 23 07:13
schestowitz[TR]richard told me that also use gitlab nowSep 23 07:13
schestowitz[TR]a step in the rfight directioon, but they still advertise microsoft githubSep 23 07:13
schestowitz[TR]proproietarySep 23 07:13
DaemonFCI had to deploy a shim to make Github work without Webcomponents the other day.Sep 23 07:13
DaemonFCGitlab too though.Sep 23 07:13
schestowitz[TR]gitlab is even less accessibleSep 23 07:14
schestowitz[TR]too much jsSep 23 07:14
schestowitz[TR]and no flalbacks at allSep 23 07:14
techrights-news"Validation rules support a wide range of use cases." 23 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Kubernetes 1.25: CustomResourceDefinition Validation Rules Graduate to Beta | KubernetesSep 23 07:15
schestowitz[TR]shim = a drpizza-approved securitySep 23 07:15
schestowitz[TR]btw,Sep 23 07:15
schestowitz[TR]npoticed how few of tech journalists are techs?Sep 23 07:15
schestowitz[TR]they never wrote codeSep 23 07:15
schestowitz[TR]they just pass on what Microsoft tells them to writeSep 23 07:15
schestowitz[TR]their speciality is kids... and stuffSep 23 07:16
schestowitz[TR]and copy-pasteSep 23 07:16
mjg59_Noticed how few political journalists are politicians?Sep 23 07:16
mjg59_Almost like they're different skillsSep 23 07:16
schestowitz[TR]whatabboutismSep 23 07:16
schestowitz[TR]the media is defunctSep 23 07:16
mjg59_I meanSep 23 07:16
mjg59_RoySep 23 07:16
mjg59_Your writing is *terrible*Sep 23 07:16
mjg59_You'd make an awful journalistSep 23 07:17
mjg59_(As would I!)Sep 23 07:17
mjg59_Journalism is about writing for people who don't have expertise in a field, but are interested in what's happening thereSep 23 07:17
techrights-news"While 76% of the overall users operate Windows"... no, even less that that ONLY IF YOU COUNT DESKTOP ALONE. β˜› | Source: Unix MenSep 23 07:17
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DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], Windows isn't even 70% on the desktop-only anymore.Sep 23 07:18
schestowitz[TR]I knowSep 23 07:19
schestowitz[TR]that was my pointSep 23 07:19
DaemonFCPornhub is in a good position to monitor this and they say like 64-ish percent as of last year and falling.Sep 23 07:19
schestowitz[TR]Pornhub barely counts africaSep 23 07:19
schestowitz[TR]where WIndows is barely usedSep 23 07:19
DaemonFCIf we're classifying everything desktop vs. mobile, Chrome OS should be in the desktop category.Sep 23 07:19
DaemonFCBut many stat counters omit it entirely to make Windows look bigger than it is.Sep 23 07:20
techrights-ipfs-bot(β„Ή) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 23 07:20
DaemonFCA strengthening Dollar Index is not what Microsoft needs.Sep 23 07:20
DaemonFCWho will be able to afford it?Sep 23 07:20
DaemonFCIf all of a sudden it takes 30-40% more of your local currency to do business with Microsoft, what do you do?Sep 23 07:21
DaemonFCAnd who will buy it in the US? People are broke due to Bidenflation.Sep 23 07:21
DaemonFCThey're not replacing $1,000+ laptops that work every 2 years in the middle of THIS.Sep 23 07:21
DaemonFCAnd if it konks out, they're going to look at budget options, which is a Chromebook, or you buy some $250 Walmart special and format Windows off of it so the thing works at all.Sep 23 07:22
DaemonFCProvided that you can.Sep 23 07:22
DaemonFCmjg59_'s services to Microsoft were meant so you can't do that.Sep 23 07:22
starstreakBidenflation is so bad its effecting every country in the world!Sep 23 07:23
techrights-news"The e-RouteCAM_CU20 is a 2MP PoE (Power-over-Ethernet) GigE camera developed by e-con Systems." β˜› | Source: Linux GizmosSep 23 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ )Sep 23 07:23
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Games: DOSBox, Terraria, Serious Sam, and More ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” Games: DOSBox, Terraria, Serious Sam, and MoreSep 23 07:23
DaemonFCSpending a trillion dollars a week we don't have in order to control the weather with battery cars.Sep 23 07:23
DaemonFCHow does that work anyway?Sep 23 07:23
DaemonFCYou have to buy a new battery car every 5 years unless you luck out like Eric Sandeen and have the battery fail within the warranty. Then it may work a while longer.Sep 23 07:23
schestowitz[TR]yuppie fantasiesSep 23 07:23
DaemonFCBut they try to trip you up with the warranty so that it doesn't apply.Sep 23 07:24
schestowitz[TR]the cars are worseSep 23 07:24
schestowitz[TR]than the batteriesSep 23 07:24
schestowitz[TR]because they won't last longSep 23 07:24
schestowitz[TR]then you need to buy a new oneSep 23 07:24
schestowitz[TR]and that means lots of miningSep 23 07:24
schestowitz[TR]mining takes a lot of energySep 23 07:24
starstreakBidenflation = rich people raising prices to get richerSep 23 07:24
schestowitz[TR]not even counting processing ans transportSep 23 07:24
schestowitz[TR]disposalSep 23 07:24
DaemonFCLike, you have to come to the dealer and let them program the battery so it lies to you about how healthy it is and the car doesn't run it as hard as it did before, when you were looking to buy it.Sep 23 07:24
schestowitz[TR]even manufacturing of one new PC takes a ton fo energySep 23 07:24
DaemonFCIt's not important what happens to it after they trick you.Sep 23 07:25
DaemonFC:)Sep 23 07:25
DaemonFCAs long as they don't have to warranty it.Sep 23 07:25
schestowitz[TR]<starstreak> Bidenflation = rich people raising prices to get richerSep 23 07:25
schestowitz[TR]there are still some workaroundsSep 23 07:25
schestowitz[TR]but harder with energySep 23 07:25
DaemonFCSandeen attacked me for doing that EV article and citing what happened to him, and that another commenter on his blog said they too had a Leaf and the warranty was not honored.Sep 23 07:26
schestowitz[TR]bcause it is a de facto monopolySep 23 07:26
schestowitz[TR]and you cannot compltely boycott electricitySep 23 07:26
DaemonFCAnd so they got to keep a car that didn't go anywhere because a battery cost 3/4ths of what a new car did.Sep 23 07:26
techrights-newsWill FSF give an award NOT to people who attack it? Let's see... 23 07:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Free Software Awards: Nominate those who have charted a course to freedom by November 30 β€” Free Software Foundation β€” Working together for free softwareSep 23 07:27
DaemonFCmjg59_ probably blew the wad too soon. Sep 23 07:28
DaemonFCNo, I'm not calling him a two pump chump....even though he probably is one.Sep 23 07:28
techrights-newsOld: award to the person whom Microsoft is besieging (and he cannot speak about it) 23 07:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linus Torvalds now a Millenium Technology Prize laureate - The H Open: News and FeaturesSep 23 07:28
DaemonFCHe was micro-shittering about getting his COVID shot weeks ago, I'm assuming the bivalent one.Sep 23 07:29
DaemonFCI'm doing a wait and see.Sep 23 07:29
techrights-news"This guide explains what is Ansible register and how to capture a task output in Ansible using the register variables in Linux" β˜› | Source: OSTechNixSep 23 07:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ansible Register Variable - OSTechNixSep 23 07:29
DaemonFCIf it starts picking up again in my state I might consider it.Sep 23 07:29
DaemonFCRight now, it's down to 10-12 people in the entire state dying with COVID each day.Sep 23 07:29
DaemonFCWhich is less than the number of daily murders in Chicago alone.Sep 23 07:30
DaemonFCThere's probably even more flu deaths at this point.Sep 23 07:31
DaemonFCThe vaccine companies are spending billions on an all out advertising campaign.Sep 23 07:31
DaemonFCThey want more money. That's pretty much what's happening here.Sep 23 07:31
DaemonFCCOVID has been beaten down as low as it will ever be again.Sep 23 07:31
techrights-newsHow to tarnish the "Linux" brand 23 07:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds talks Rust on Linux, his work schedule and life with his M2 MacBook Air | ZDNETSep 23 07:32
DaemonFCSome people prefer to spend the rest of their lives cowering under the bed, I guess.Sep 23 07:32
techrights-newsCOVID-19: better never to get infected at all 23 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mental Health Issues May Linger For Years After COVID-19 Infection - Africa Defense ForumSep 23 07:32
DaemonFCWell, then with mjg59_ we'd never be able to tell, schestowitz[TR] Sep 23 07:33
techrights-newsold: People - Michigan Terminal System Archive βš“ δ·‰ Source: The Somnolescent Archives | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | People - Michigan Terminal System ArchiveSep 23 07:33
DaemonFCWhat's he going to do? Jack up his transphobia allegations against EVERYBODY?Sep 23 07:33
schestowitz[TR]here is the trhignSep 23 07:33
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_ harms trans peopleSep 23 07:33
schestowitz[TR]I have teans friendsSep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]many here are transSep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]alwaysSep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]since like 2008Sep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]maybe 5-10%Sep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]but he overuses the slurSep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]and went after rmsSep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]rms is very tolerant ofm  trans peoplSep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]eby going after the wrong people he creates a stigmaSep 23 07:34
DaemonFCHe's trying to spend Disney Bucks at Caesar's Palace with me.Sep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]this stigma makes straw menSep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]and then harms trans peopleSep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]and he knowss thisSep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]he's not dumpSep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]*sumbSep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]he knows is, but does not careSep 23 07:34
schestowitz[TR]hen  ignores the most gay-hostile peopleSep 23 07:35
schestowitz[TR]and focuses on perople who don't even give a damn abou such thiungsaSep 23 07:35
schestowitz[TR]it's exploitationSep 23 07:35
schestowitz[TR]he uses it for grudgeSep 23 07:35
schestowitz[TR]as a wedgeSep 23 07:35
schestowitz[TR]gto to ircSep 23 07:35
schestowitz[TR]say something something transSep 23 07:35
DaemonFCMost people don't care if trans people grow a second head, to be honest.Sep 23 07:35
schestowitz[TR]wait for SOMEONE to say something noty P-CSep 23 07:35
DaemonFCI don't.Sep 23 07:35
schestowitz[TR]then accuse ERVERYONE of itSep 23 07:35
schestowitz[TR]and at the end the right goes after transSep 23 07:35
schestowitz[TR]who are fed up with that tacticSep 23 07:35
schestowitz[TR]and then they get all worried about suiicidesSep 23 07:36
schestowitz[TR]trans people go back like 100 years Sep 23 07:36
schestowitz[TR]maybe moreSep 23 07:36
DaemonFCI didn't force any of them to commit suicide.Sep 23 07:36
schestowitz[TR]but they never attacked people like thisSep 23 07:36
DaemonFCI didn't tell them they should do it.Sep 23 07:36
schestowitz[TR]and now there's a reputation thay cannot shake offSep 23 07:36
schestowitz[TR]bullyign ther wrong people won't helpSep 23 07:36
schestowitz[TR]leah said it rightSep 23 07:36
schestowitz[TR]they need to think diplomaticallySep 23 07:36
schestowitz[TR]and some don't Sep 23 07:36
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_ IS NOT TRANSSep 23 07:37
DaemonFCI don't tell people whether they should kill themselves or not. Some people have good reasons to. Very sick people who don't want to hurt.Sep 23 07:37
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_ IS AS TRANS AS I AM!!Sep 23 07:37
schestowitz[TR]and he's using them!!Sep 23 07:37
DaemonFCYou can't blame Robin Williams for it or say he was selfish because he knew he'd be a gibbering vegetable in a few years and those were years he didn't want to spend slipping away.Sep 23 07:37
DaemonFCSome people would rather die than live like that.Sep 23 07:38
techrights-newsold: Torvalds uses free speech... to condemn truly evil company ... when he was still ALLOWED 23 07:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NVIDIA responds to criticism by Torvalds - The H Open: News and FeaturesSep 23 07:38
DaemonFCHad he been given resources to help him die he could have done it in a more dignified manner than with an electrical cord in a closet.Sep 23 07:38
DaemonFCWe live in a society that is squeamish about death and act as if you can just stave it off forever.Sep 23 07:39
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: You're also not a piece of software, but you object to abusive software patentsSep 23 07:39
DaemonFCAnd if you fight like hell to overcome end of life stuff, you'll live another 1,000 years.Sep 23 07:39
DaemonFCIt's because grown ass adults want to live in a fairy story.Sep 23 07:39
DaemonFCI'm also not the popular opinion on suicide in this country.Sep 23 07:40
schestowitz[TR]MinceR: I developSep 23 07:40
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: ^Sep 23 07:40
DaemonFCLots of people hear opinions like mine and they try to get you fired and stuff.Sep 23 07:41
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Transphobia has a direct effect on people in my life, and their happiness has a direct effect on me. Why is it odd that I'd want to stand up for those people?Sep 23 07:41
schestowitz[TR]later today I will do a video about sexiiism at epoSep 23 07:41
schestowitz[TR]I got internal documentsSep 23 07:41
DaemonFCI mean, they want you to say all the right shit that people want to hear....or else.Sep 23 07:41
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: go after the culpritsSep 23 07:41
schestowitz[TR]clue: we are very trans-diverse irc networkSep 23 07:41
schestowitz[TR]always wereSep 23 07:41
DaemonFC<mjg59_> schestowitz[TR]: Transphobia has a direct effect on people in my life, and their happiness has a direct effect on me. Why is it odd that I'd want to stand up for those people?Sep 23 07:41
schestowitz[TR]you pick on one personSep 23 07:42
DaemonFCWhy don't you let them speak for themselves?Sep 23 07:42
schestowitz[TR]to demonise everyone... pardon the punSep 23 07:42
DaemonFCAre you saying they're stupid?Sep 23 07:42
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Yeah uh one of the culprits is right thereSep 23 07:42
schestowitz[TR]yesSep 23 07:42
schestowitz[TR]and he writes on many thingsSep 23 07:42
mjg59_So I go after himSep 23 07:42
schestowitz[TR]and I don't agree with many of themSep 23 07:42
DaemonFC<mjg59_> So I go after himSep 23 07:43
DaemonFCJust admit that you've had a grudge for 14 years and can't get over yourself.Sep 23 07:43
mjg59_Says the guy who literally can't stop talking about meSep 23 07:43
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mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: If the EPO president wrote an article on a specific technical topic that you agreed with, would you republish it?Sep 23 07:44
DaemonFCYes, living rent-free in your head. Right?Sep 23 07:44
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Or would you feel that that was giving recognition to someone who held opinions that were incompatible with your goals, and refuse to do so?Sep 23 07:44
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mjg59_HahaSep 23 07:45
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schestowitz[TR]he does not write articlesSep 23 07:45
schestowitz[TR]he has a PR crony from alicante to write lies for himSep 23 07:45
schestowitz[TR]and then "quote" himSep 23 07:45
mjg59_Yes this is clearly a hypotheticalSep 23 07:45
schestowitz[TR]he blogged 1-2 times 4 years agoSep 23 07:45
mjg59_If I write something you agree with, will you publish it?Sep 23 07:46
mjg59_Or would that be giving credit to someone who you believe is an enemy of the community?Sep 23 07:46
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC is not "enemy of the community"Sep 23 07:46
schestowitz[TR]if this is what you are getting atSep 23 07:46
schestowitz[TR]I don't agree with him on many political issuesSep 23 07:46
mjg59_Can you answer the question?Sep 23 07:46
schestowitz[TR]and debate him over these issuesSep 23 07:46
schestowitz[TR]there is a debate like this in geminispace atmSep 23 07:46
schestowitz[TR]some poeple seem not to think that right-leaning technical people should be permitted in gemini://Sep 23 07:47
schestowitz[TR]and this ios not a healthy mindsetSep 23 07:47
DaemonFCI'm not in a position to do anything politically, so what does it matter? Out of like 6 million voters, I'm one person.Sep 23 07:47
mjg59_If I wrote an article you agreed with, would you publish it?Sep 23 07:47
DaemonFCSo like, there's not much chance that an election hinges on what I think.Sep 23 07:47
schestowitz[TR]noSep 23 07:47
schestowitz[TR]you are a snakeSep 23 07:47
mjg59_Ok! CoolSep 23 07:47
schestowitz[TR]you are a mean-spirited bad personSep 23 07:47
schestowitz[TR]and you have a track record to show thisSep 23 07:48
schestowitz[TR]that's why many people avoid youaSep 23 07:48
mjg59_So it's not just about someone who you disagree with on some topics writing things you agree withSep 23 07:48
schestowitz[TR]and they won't say it to your pfaceSep 23 07:48
schestowitz[TR]as that can make them the next target for you ilk to defameSep 23 07:48
mjg59_You find my opinions on certain topics more repugnant than Ryan's transphobiaSep 23 07:48
schestowitz[TR]you are binned by usSep 23 07:48
schestowitz[TR]blacklisted... sorry, denylistedSep 23 07:48
schestowitz[TR]you can talkSep 23 07:48
schestowitz[TR]but ythat does not entitle you to a platformSep 23 07:48
DaemonFCIf I was in a position to do anything politically in this state, then the mafia unions and the rest of the criminals who prop up Governor Pritzker would have me assassinated. Sep 23 07:48
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: You mean it's not a free speech issue?Sep 23 07:49
DaemonFCYou don't get to fuck with people like that and live.Sep 23 07:49
schestowitz[TR]you can talk all you wantSep 23 07:49
mjg59_But not on your siteSep 23 07:49
schestowitz[TR]in a network you are actively trying to undermineSep 23 07:49
mjg59_You said you gave Pocock a platform because of free speechSep 23 07:49
schestowitz[TR]but I'm not going to waste people's time promoting your nonsenseSep 23 07:49
mjg59_Despite his writing being a set of conspiracy theory nonsenseSep 23 07:49
schestowitz[TR]he covered important issuesSep 23 07:49
mjg59_He lied about a shitload of stuffSep 23 07:49
schestowitz[TR]in recent years some edgy posts from him were less presentableSep 23 07:49
highest_cubist_thrillsits not about thatSep 23 07:49
highest_cubist_thrillsits a show about nothingSep 23 07:50
schestowitz[TR]but in his personal web site he has been spot-on, in the personal siteSep 23 07:50
DaemonFCI'm not so sure where mjg59_ thinks I have power.Sep 23 07:50
DaemonFCI have power to talk to people about things.Sep 23 07:50
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: take it a complimentSep 23 07:50
schestowitz[TR]he is afraid of things you write about TECHSep 23 07:50
schestowitz[TR]and looks for a wedge/angleSep 23 07:50
schestowitz[TR]to avoid refuting you on techSep 23 07:51
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Is it true to say that you find some of my opinions more offensive than Ryan's opinions?Sep 23 07:51
schestowitz[TR]annd then demands you get de-voicedSep 23 07:51
schestowitz[TR]in some cultures what mjg59_ does as a lifestyle merits stoningSep 23 07:51
schestowitz[TR]but he fails to see how interjecting politics into technical debate is itself very toxicSep 23 07:51
schestowitz[TR]until maybe he finmds himself in kabul for a week with a one-0way airline passSep 23 07:52
schestowitz[TR]and then he might understand tSep 23 07:52
schestowitz[TR]that in a FOSS coinfeerrence in kabnulSep 23 07:52
schestowitz[TR]he does not want people to bring in politicsSep 23 07:52
schestowitz[TR]as that endangers himSep 23 07:52
schestowitz[TR]for decades were able to collaborate with people whom we disagree with... on politicsSep 23 07:52
schestowitz[TR]it just didn't come upSep 23 07:52
schestowitz[TR]the politics interjected... seesms to be a state tacticwsSep 23 07:52
schestowitz[TR]to control the developersSep 23 07:52
schestowitz[TR]tyo selectively remove someSep 23 07:53
schestowitz[TR]for werongthinkSep 23 07:53
schestowitz[TR]on many political issues I;'m sure anyone I know how some objectionable viewsSep 23 07:53
schestowitz[TR]that they do not publicly expressSep 23 07:53
schestowitz[TR]death penalty, abotionSep 23 07:53
DaemonFCYes, the Muslim countries would throw mjg59_ off a rooftop and laugh about it.Sep 23 07:53
schestowitz[TR]rianne support death penaltySep 23 07:53
schestowitz[TR]I don't agree wqith herSep 23 07:53
schestowitz[TR]we debate itSep 23 07:53
DaemonFCAnd then nothing would happen to the people who did it.Sep 23 07:53
schestowitz[TR]and don't get into shouting matchesSep 23 07:53
DaemonFCThey may get a parade, even.Sep 23 07:53
DaemonFCHe should be glad they're not in charge here.Sep 23 07:53
DaemonFCI think we need electric bleachers.Sep 23 07:54
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: he will quote it out of context againSep 23 07:54
schestowitz[TR]to calrifySep 23 07:54
schestowitz[TR]the point beingSep 23 07:54
DaemonFCAt least until they clear out the child molesters and shit.Sep 23 07:54
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: You feel that my technical writing is tainted by my opinions on certain matters, right?Sep 23 07:54
schestowitz[TR]there are many bad groups in the worldSep 23 07:54
DaemonFCMake some room for the less nasty felons in prison.Sep 23 07:54
schestowitz[TR]a social justice warrior (by his OWN description) would prioritise suitablySep 23 07:54
schestowitz[TR]and stop picking on a channel full of trans people./.. because one gay man in it has the wrong ([sic] viewsSep 23 07:55
DaemonFCThe child molesters are a big problem in Illinois.Sep 23 07:55
DaemonFCThey let them out and like, what are they going to do?Sep 23 07:55
schestowitz[TR]<mjg59_> schestowitz[TR]: You feel that my technical writing is tainted by my opinions on certain matters, right?Sep 23 07:55
schestowitz[TR]no!Sep 23 07:55
schestowitz[TR]that's not rhe issueSep 23 07:55
DaemonFCMolest again. because they can't live anywhere, nobody will give them a job, oh yeah, and they're still a filthy pervert.Sep 23 07:55
schestowitz[TR]the issue is, you have been trying to undermine us for a decades almostSep 23 07:55
schestowitz[TR]and not only usSep 23 07:55
schestowitz[TR]your main "controbution" to society is libeling peoplkeSep 23 07:55
mjg59_And that taints my technical writing?Sep 23 07:55
schestowitz[TR]usually people who do sterling technical workSep 23 07:56
schestowitz[TR]like porivacy stuffSep 23 07:56
schestowitz[TR]at the same time you selectively and intentionally ignore the worst offendersSep 23 07:56
schestowitz[TR]so you don't have a consistent set of principlesSep 23 07:56
DaemonFCA 15 year old girl on Matrix was telling me about how they just sentenced her step dad for raping her when she was 11.Sep 23 07:56
schestowitz[TR]you just perceive yourself to be "hitman" soldatSep 23 07:56
DaemonFCThe prosecutor gave the guy a plea bargain to 2 of 11 charges, and he got 20 years.Sep 23 07:56
mjg59_What does that have to do with the quality of my technical writing?Sep 23 07:56
DaemonFCMeans he'll be back in 10?Sep 23 07:57
schestowitz[TR]you have no qualitySep 23 07:57
schestowitz[TR]your blog promotes a ton of BSSep 23 07:57
schestowitz[TR]ACPI days.,... OKSep 23 07:57
DaemonFCA rational society kills people who have no use and who prey on the most vulnerable.Sep 23 07:57
schestowitz[TR]I was OK with ACPIU workSep 23 07:57
schestowitz[TR]ACIPI is a messSep 23 07:57
schestowitz[TR]but having some support is better than noneSep 23 07:57
schestowitz[TR]back then many laptops did not hibernate correctly under LinuxSep 23 07:57
schestowitz[TR]that's a factSep 23 07:57
schestowitz[TR]so I rarely bothered with low-energy modesSep 23 07:57
schestowitz[TR]it was not reliableSep 23 07:57
DaemonFCMost laptops don't hibernate anymore, thanks to "Secure" boot.Sep 23 07:58
schestowitz[TR]laptops in general were sticky businessSep 23 07:58
DaemonFCSo in a way, he fixed that.Sep 23 07:58
schestowitz[TR]so I used desktops mostlySep 23 07:58
DaemonFCNow it's just not a feature anymore.Sep 23 07:58
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: rianne's laptop handles these modes OKSep 23 07:58
DaemonFCJesus, I mean like I've deleted entire subsystems out of Linux before.Sep 23 07:58
schestowitz[TR]maybe depends on the OEMSep 23 07:58
DaemonFCDoes that put me up there with Matt Gulag?Sep 23 07:58
schestowitz[TR]I reckon nowadays Vista 11/12/next versionb deals with ACPI less capably than currect LinuxzSep 23 07:59
schestowitz[TR]but have not checkedSep 23 07:59
DaemonFCNo, because I can't inflict my kernel build on millions of people.Sep 23 07:59
schestowitz[TR]WIndiows is a sordid messSep 23 07:59
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schestowitz[TR]promoting 'secure' botot BS buys Microsoft timeSep 23 07:59
schestowitz[TR]to attack Linux from the insideSep 23 07:59
schestowitz[TR]with Canonical, bribed by MicreoisoftSep 23 07:59
schestowitz[TR]systemd, WSL...Sep 23 07:59
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: What I'm hearing here is that my opinions on secure boot are more offensive than transphobiaSep 23 07:59
schestowitz[TR]they won't succeedSep 23 07:59
schestowitz[TR]but they do harmSep 23 07:59
DaemonFCmjg59_, You're doing actual harm.Sep 23 07:59
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: transphobia isn't relevantSep 23 08:00
schestowitz[TR]we are tealking tech hereSep 23 08:00
DaemonFCI have some personal opinions that ultimately don't change anything and aren't even extreme.Sep 23 08:00
schestowitz[TR]IU'm SURE you have some trly OBJECTIONABLE vioews in politics... that you do not publicly expressSep 23 08:00
schestowitz[TR]if I spoke to your parents, I would find outSep 23 08:00
schestowitz[TR]"off the record"Sep 23 08:00
DaemonFCAn extremist would be what the Muslim countries do if someone there is stupid enough to say they're a trans woman.Sep 23 08:00
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: k, you think my views on secure boot are more offensive than transphobiaSep 23 08:01
DaemonFCI said I basically don't give a shit about it because it's not an issue in my life.Sep 23 08:01
schestowitz[TR]you get arrested in some countries for putting pronouns in you social controlm media accountSep 23 08:01
DaemonFCmjg59_, I didn't give a shit about Immigration either until I married an immigrant. I try to keep the horse blinders on. It makes things easier.Sep 23 08:01
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: noSep 23 08:01
schestowitz[TR]just more relevantSep 23 08:01
DaemonFCYou start looking around, you're going to see a huge mess you can't fix.Sep 23 08:01
schestowitz[TR]we are never writing articles on political issues like theseSep 23 08:01
DaemonFCAnd all it will do is make you depressed.Sep 23 08:01
schestowitz[TR]as an aside we mention some stuffSep 23 08:01
schestowitz[TR]like EPO's political connectionsSep 23 08:02
DaemonFCSomewhere right now, a cat is being run over by a car.Sep 23 08:02
DaemonFCDoes me thinking about it fix that? No.Sep 23 08:02
schestowitz[TR]EPO is  inherently political, not scientificSep 23 08:02
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: You don't think transphobia is relevant to a community that has a disproportionately large number of trans members?Sep 23 08:02
schestowitz[TR]you shoulsd write more about EPOSep 23 08:02
schestowitz[TR]relevant to a lot of tech and relevant to their abuse of women, tooSep 23 08:02
schestowitz[TR]and minorities etc.Sep 23 08:02
schestowitz[TR]but you don't careSep 23 08:02
DaemonFCI like cats. If I fixate on something I don't like and can't change, then it doesn't help me. It might bum me out.Sep 23 08:02
schestowitz[TR]an unemployed man in IL worriess you TONS moreSep 23 08:02
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: clearly you got it all wrongSep 23 08:03
schestowitz[TR]because for many years we got bySep 23 08:03
DaemonFCI don't know what he thinks he'll take.Sep 23 08:03
schestowitz[TR]without censoring peopleSep 23 08:03
schestowitz[TR]for "wroingthink"Sep 23 08:03
DaemonFCThe mold growing on the wall behind my toilet?Sep 23 08:03
schestowitz[TR]and unlike many communities, we are still hereSep 23 08:03
DaemonFCI've spent down everything I've ever had dealing with the mess my ex made and my spouse's health and immigration issues.Sep 23 08:04
mjg59_Ok so it's fair to say that you don't think transphobia is sufficient reason to exclude someone from a communitySep 23 08:04
DaemonFCAnd filed bankruptcy.Sep 23 08:04
DaemonFCI mean, I don't have anything left to give.Sep 23 08:04
DaemonFCI wish I did.Sep 23 08:04
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: That feels like a fair statement?Sep 23 08:04
schestowitz[TR]you start with thisSep 23 08:05
schestowitz[TR]then, what next?Sep 23 08:05
mjg59_Is it unfair to say that?Sep 23 08:05
schestowitz[TR]also, bannning gays who don't want the "T" is low blowSep 23 08:05
schestowitz[TR]maybe you want us to also ban gays?Sep 23 08:05
schestowitz[TR]would that pelase you?Sep 23 08:05
schestowitz[TR]"social justice"?Sep 23 08:05
DaemonFCWhat, including him?Sep 23 08:05
mjg59_I don't want you to ban anyone because they're gaySep 23 08:05
schestowitz[TR]you doSep 23 08:05
schestowitz[TR]you want to banish DaemonFC Sep 23 08:05
mjg59_I literally don'tSep 23 08:05
mjg59_Not because he's gaySep 23 08:06
schestowitz[TR]you doSep 23 08:06
schestowitz[TR]you demand itSep 23 08:06
highest_cubist_thrillsdespite being funded by al sweigartSep 23 08:06
schestowitz[TR]by shaming us into itSep 23 08:06
mjg59_His sexuality has nothing to do with itSep 23 08:06
schestowitz[TR]like you did RMS and LTSep 23 08:06
highest_cubist_thrillswhcih isnt and never was her faultSep 23 08:06
schestowitz[TR]you fail to see the harm you doSep 23 08:06
schestowitz[TR]you are out of touchSep 23 08:06
schestowitz[TR]and you need more counsellingSep 23 08:06
highest_cubist_thrillspeople who want to see a logical conclusion to the relentless nonsense on both sides of this should just watch contrapointsSep 23 08:06
schestowitz[TR]you are hjhypersensitive Sep 23 08:06
schestowitz[TR]and thin-skinnedSep 23 08:06
highest_cubist_thrillserally, any video by contrapointsSep 23 08:06
schestowitz[TR]like jews who cannot take a single holocaust jokeSep 23 08:06
schestowitz[TR]because "it hurts"Sep 23 08:06
schestowitz[TR]or who call everyone "antisemite"Sep 23 08:06
schestowitz[TR]to the point where then  term has no meaningSep 23 08:07
DaemonFCYou know, all I said about one person I don't like very much is that he should have just waited until his kids were grown and out of the house.Sep 23 08:07
schestowitz[TR]you are now building societySep 23 08:07
DaemonFCWould it have killed him?Sep 23 08:07
schestowitz[TR]you are trying to cull societySep 23 08:07
highest_cubist_thrillscontrapoints actually goes somewhere with these issuesSep 23 08:07
highest_cubist_thrillshere, its just sort of a backdrop and Sep 23 08:07
highest_cubist_thrillsnoiseSep 23 08:07
DaemonFCThat "trans" woman isn't a very decent human being.Sep 23 08:07
highest_cubist_thrillsi think mjg really sincerely wants to figure out roySep 23 08:07
DaemonFCLook how bad "they" fucked up the kids.Sep 23 08:07
highest_cubist_thrillsbut he wont because hes attributing things to a process that doesnt even existSep 23 08:08
schestowitz[TR]highest_cubist_thrills: you give him too much benefit of the doubtSep 23 08:08
highest_cubist_thrillsnevermind the motivesSep 23 08:08
DaemonFCYou know, if you're going to start a family, you should stay and finish the job.Sep 23 08:08
schestowitz[TR]he is attempting to distract from technical issuesSep 23 08:08
highest_cubist_thrillshighest_cubist_thrills: you give him too much benefit of the doubt <- i dont give him anySep 23 08:08
schestowitz[TR]and time-wasteSep 23 08:08
schestowitz[TR]bblSep 23 08:08
DaemonFCThen get a divorce, become "a woman", do whatever you want.Sep 23 08:08
DaemonFCYou're on your own time again.Sep 23 08:08
highest_cubist_thrillsanyway, understanding roy is easySep 23 08:08
techrights-news"The OpenBSD virtual machine daemon works pretty well with Linux VMs nowadays." β˜› | Source: TuMFatigSep 23 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | TuM'Fatig - Running a Docker Host under OpenBSD using vmd(8)Sep 23 08:08
DaemonFCThat's literally all I said was I don't like "Keith".Sep 23 08:09
highest_cubist_thrillsits all reaction, zero processSep 23 08:09
techrights-news"This article will try to bring you up to speed on FreeBSD services management, and offer options for automation that you may find useful in your cloud-like environments." β˜› | Source: KlaraSep 23 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | rc(8): FreeBSD Services and Automation - Klara Inc.Sep 23 08:09
highest_cubist_thrillsso any process you attribute it to is an errorSep 23 08:09
techrights-news"After talking about IoT development kits for the past several years, I figured it was time to get my hands dirty." β˜› | Source: Stacey on IoTSep 23 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | So I made a LoRa-based prototype using a dev kit - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysisSep 23 08:09
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highest_cubist_thrillsthis is like a collaborative reaction video that never endsSep 23 08:09
highest_cubist_thrillsor the transcript of oneSep 23 08:09
techrights-news"All makers love lasers and they make great shop tools. Even low-power lasers can engrave a variety of materials." β˜› | Source: ArduinoSep 23 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mokey is an affordable DIY laser engraver | Arduino BlogSep 23 08:10
highest_cubist_thrillsits entertaining, but its still a repeatSep 23 08:10
DaemonFCYou know, I'm never going to have any family that I'm responsible for except Mandy, and with all the shit that happened to him in the Philippines I'll be goddamned if I'm going to let anything happen to him here.Sep 23 08:10
DaemonFCPeople should feel this strongly or more so about their children.Sep 23 08:10
techrights-news"Today we have released a maintenance release of PowerDNS Recursor 4.5.11, 4.6.4 and 4.7.3" β˜› | Source: PowerDNSSep 23 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | PowerDNS Recursor 4.5.11, 4.6.4 and 4.7.3 Released | PowerDNS BlogSep 23 08:11
DaemonFCI don't have time to give a flying fuck one way or the other about "trans issues".Sep 23 08:12
techrights-news"This is it folks. They’re going away fast." β˜› | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)Sep 23 08:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Web engines that are still free of Rust as of September 2022. Bonus: Cascade of Attention Deficit Web Developers | BaronHK's RantsSep 23 08:12
techrights-news"Firefox 105 is out. No, it's not your imagination: I ended up skipping a couple versions" β˜› | Source: TalospaceSep 23 08:12
DaemonFCI'll be honest. They don't matter at all to me. Nobody I know other than Keith was trans, and I haven't talked to him since 1993.Sep 23 08:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Firefox 105 on POWERSep 23 08:12
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: it's off topic anywaySep 23 08:12
schestowitz[TR]don't play into the hands of the resident trollSep 23 08:13
highest_cubist_thrillsthe thing about a reaction video isSep 23 08:13
highest_cubist_thrillspay no attention to the man behind the curtain!Sep 23 08:13
highest_cubist_thrillsthe thing about a reaction video isSep 23 08:13
highest_cubist_thrillsthe people reacting have zero impact on the video theyre reacting toSep 23 08:13
techrights-news"Because of environmental reasons (and the airport being nothing short of a complete clusterfuck), we took the Nightjet to Vienna." β˜› |Sep 23 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EuroBSDcon 2022 | h3artbl33dSep 23 08:13
highest_cubist_thrillsit goes on exactly as it was made, exactly the same no matter how many times you hit repeatSep 23 08:13
techrights-news"SparkFun is dedicated to providing technical documentation and tools to support the use of new tech." β˜› | Source: SparkFun ElectronicsSep 23 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Technical Resource Collections: Technical Reference Support for Popular Technology Topics - News - SparkFun ElectronicsSep 23 08:14
DaemonFCFirefox 105....or......Firefox 7 under the old pace.Sep 23 08:14
DaemonFCThis is getting ridiculous. Version inflation.Sep 23 08:14
techrights-news"In this blog post, I’ll share my journey from studying biology to becoming a healthcare data analyst." Privacy issues a bit thing here :/ β˜› | Source: RlangSep 23 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-From Biology to Healthcare Analytics: My Data Science Journey | R-bloggersSep 23 08:14
DaemonFCBiden is running Mozilla.Sep 23 08:14
schestowitz[TR]into the groundSep 23 08:15
DaemonFCI remember when I rolled my eyes because Netscape skipped version 5.Sep 23 08:15
schestowitz[TR]yesterday I opened a new tabSep 23 08:15
schestowitz[TR]shows me adidas adsaSep 23 08:15
schestowitz[TR]adSep 23 08:15
schestowitz[TR]in the new tabSep 23 08:15
schestowitz[TR]tried to find where to disable itSep 23 08:15
schestowitz[TR]could not find itSep 23 08:15
DaemonFCI mainly like SeaMonkey because of nostalgia.Sep 23 08:15
schestowitz[TR]firefox is not free softwareSep 23 08:15
schestowitz[TR]it also has DRMSep 23 08:15
DaemonFCI can open it up and the GUI hasn't changed at all really since I was like 17 maybe?Sep 23 08:15
DaemonFCNothing with DRM is Free Software.Sep 23 08:16
techrights-news[Old] "Standard Development Organizations (SDO) and Open Source Software (OSS) Projects offer two different models" β˜› | Source: SSRNSep 23 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Downsides of Using Inadequate Open Source Software Processes and Licenses within Standard Development Organizations by Michele Herman, Justus Baron :: SSRNSep 23 08:16
DaemonFCGNOME Web doesn't have DRM. They're not big enough for GULAG to license Widevine to even if they wanted it.Sep 23 08:16
DaemonFCThat's the thing. Not only is it proprietary, but GULAG decides who is allowed to have it.Sep 23 08:16
techrights-newsOpen Data: "In the run-up to the October finale, meet the 12 EU Datathon finalist teams and peek behind the scenes! Launched at the beginning of September" β˜› | Source: JoinupSep 23 08:16
DaemonFCmjg59_, worked for them.Sep 23 08:16
DaemonFCThey've done way worse than this.Sep 23 08:17
techrights-news"C++ will continue to endure for decades, but greenfield projects that fit the requirements should consider an alternative" β˜› | Source: Matt RickardSep 23 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ )Sep 23 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Rust, C++, or Carbon?Sep 23 08:17
DaemonFCI'll never forget the post from Mozilla saying they just HAD to shove it in there without asking you.Sep 23 08:17
techrights-news"What to learn in order to not become obsolete as a software developer, and then being forced into early retirement from programming?" β˜› | Source: Alexandru NedelcuSep 23 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Proprietary Environments are a Trap - Alexandru NedelcuSep 23 08:17
DaemonFCThey know if most people had the option, they'd tell Google to fuck off.Sep 23 08:17
DaemonFCAnd get the one without Widevine.Sep 23 08:17
techrights-news[Old] "The knowledge I've gained about programming POSIX is still useful, even though I learned a lot of it over twenty years ago." β˜› |Sep 23 08:18
DaemonFCBut if nobody thinks about it, nobody is allowed to refuse.Sep 23 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Working for The Man | Tux DeluxeSep 23 08:18
techrights-news"Not quite aphorisms." β˜› | Source: Carl SvenssonSep 23 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Short Thoughts on Computers and Programming | datagubbe.seSep 23 08:18
schestowitz[TR]<DaemonFC> GNOME Web doesn't have DRM. They're not big enough for GULAG to license Widevine to even if they wanted it.Sep 23 08:19
schestowitz[TR]wait till they growSep 23 08:19
schestowitz[TR]then gnome will get more 'donations'Sep 23 08:19
schestowitz[TR]btw, i started calling them gulag only after their employee kept defaming meSep 23 08:19
techrights-news[Old] "What Would Open Source Look Like If It Were Healthy?" β˜› |Sep 23 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | What Would Open Source Look Like If It Were Healthy? Video & Transcript | Cogito, Ergo SumanaSep 23 08:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(β„Ή) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 23 08:20
techrights-news"I want and aim for libcurl to be the best documented software library in the world." β˜› | Source: Daniel StenbergSep 23 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Taking curl documentation quality up one more notch | daniel.haxx.seSep 23 08:20
techrights-news"The idea is tree-shaking – analyzing a program's control flow to see what functions will be called and removing unused code." β˜› | Source: Matt RickardSep 23 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tree ShakingSep 23 08:21
techrights-news"This is the Adafruit weekly Python on Microcontrollers newsletter video highlights!" β˜› | Source: AdafruitSep 23 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Python on Hardware weekly video – September 21, 2022 #CircuitPython #Python @micropython @Adafruit Β« Adafruit Industries – Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!Sep 23 08:21
DaemonFCThey fire everyone that's not a freak of nature like mjg59_. They want people who are some maniac who sound like they're progressive, yet are willing to work to harm people.Sep 23 08:22
techrights-news"Java Development Kit 19, a non-LTS (long-term support) release of standard Java, arrives today as a production release" β˜› | Source: InfoWorldSep 23 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-JDK 19: The new features in Java 19 | InfoWorldSep 23 08:22
techrights-news"Oracle today announced the availability of Java 19, the latest version of the world’s number one programming language and development platform." β˜› | Source: India TimesSep 23 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | java: Java 19’s key capabilities to be showcased at JavaOne 2022 in Las Vegas, CIO News, ET CIOSep 23 08:22
techrights-newsThe Web has become such a sordid mess. Lies, spam, ads. Without curation, today's WWW is not usable and not informative.Sep 23 08:23
DaemonFCI'm sure he believes his own propaganda.Sep 23 08:23
DaemonFCThat's what happens eventually when you're a narcissist.Sep 23 08:24
techrights-news[cat] gemini:// 23 08:24
techrights-news"I turned 30 yesterday. I'm currently struggling with this. Part of me wants to bury myself in old anime and games and pretend it's 2006. Part of me wants to really start kissing ass at work so I can start working on one of those "careers" I'm supposed to have. I have no idea what to do." gemini:// 23 08:25
DaemonFCIn mjg59_'s warped corrupted mind, I actually am marching trans people off to the "camps" or something. He builds me up to be the Great White Satan. And so by harassing me, he can feel better about himself.Sep 23 08:25
techrights-news[cat] gemini:// 23 08:25
DaemonFC<techrights-news> "I turned 30 yesterday. I'm currently struggling with this. Part of me wants to bury myself in old anime and games and pretend it's 2006. Part of me wants to really start kissing ass at work so I can start working on one of those "careers" I'm supposed to have. I have no idea what to do." gemini:// 23 08:26
DaemonFCI'm about to turn 40. I don't have much to show for it.Sep 23 08:26
DaemonFCStarted developing chest pains. Can't drop dead just yet.Sep 23 08:26
techrights-news"The newest, Smarter than Smart, TVs are becoming nastier..." gemini:// 23 08:26
techrights-newsPlainly Put: Plane Power Play gemini:// "I'm not sure I like that sort of gameplay. When I play single player games I start a lot earlier, using a few mods that add earlier vehicles. That means the addition of planes is far away. It's a much more relaxing sort of game."Sep 23 08:27
DaemonFCDeath would otherwise be sort of like a promotion, but there's still things left to do.Sep 23 08:27
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_ accomplished a lotSep 23 08:29
schestowitz[TR]weeks of his life spent in an irc network hostile towards himSep 23 08:29
scientesso did StalinSep 23 08:29
schestowitz[TR]talking to people who don't like what he doesSep 23 08:29
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DaemonFCParticularly one person in the entire world that he attacks for not being pro-LGBT, despite being gay.Sep 23 08:30
scientesschestowitz this channel is also hostile to PoetteringSep 23 08:30
mjg59_Every minute you're talking to me is a minute less of your life you can use to abuse other people, so I'm ok with thatSep 23 08:30
scientesfor totally stupid reasonsSep 23 08:30
DaemonFC<mjg59_> Every minute you're talking to me is a minute less of your life you can use to abuse other people, so I'm ok with thatSep 23 08:30
DaemonFCWho am I abusing, do you imagine, Mr. GULAG?Sep 23 08:30
scientesas I was saying, Joseph Stalin accomplished alotSep 23 08:30
mjg59_Dr. GULAG, actuallySep 23 08:31
DaemonFCMr. will suffice.Sep 23 08:31
techrights-news"In β€œThe Cave of Time,” the first book in the series, you discover a time-travelling cave whose tunnels carry you to Colonial Massachusetts, where you become a soap-maker’s apprentice" β˜› | Source: New YorkerSep 23 08:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Enduring Allure of Choose Your Own Adventure Books | The New YorkerSep 23 08:31
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schestowitz[TR]dr mendele of the sovietsSep 23 08:32
DaemonFCDr. GULAG sounds like the name of an actual doctor.Sep 23 08:32
mjg59_Do you mean Mengele?Sep 23 08:32
DaemonFCOne of those Indian psychiatrists.Sep 23 08:32
schestowitz[TR]<scientes> schestowitz this channel is also hostile to PoetteringSep 23 08:32
mjg59_Because, uh, he was pretty famously not a sovietSep 23 08:32
schestowitz[TR]we don't like Microsoft employeesSep 23 08:32
schestowitz[TR]esp. those that attack usSep 23 08:32
scientesmjg59_, I visited his houseSep 23 08:32
DaemonFCPaging Dr. GULAG, Dr. GULAG!Sep 23 08:33
schestowitz[TR]whose?Sep 23 08:33
scientesJoseph StalinSep 23 08:33
DaemonFCDr. Bombay! Dr. Bombay! Come right away!Sep 23 08:33
techrights-news[Old] "If you reword your job advertisements to remove this $TECHNOLOGY as a β€œrequirement” and replace it with a β€œdesirable” (or just mention you use it)" β˜› | Source: Mike McQuaidSep 23 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Stop requiring specific technology experience for senior-plus engineers | Mike McQuaidSep 23 08:33
techrights-news"Sears, a student with a disability, was placed into conflict with a tenured professor who held power over him and denied him meaningful access to education services" β˜› | Source: CBCSep 23 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Former MUN student wins human rights case after prof refused to wear a mic | CBC NewsSep 23 08:34
highest_cubist_thrillsroy what was your first desk likeSep 23 08:34
schestowitz[TR]desk?Sep 23 08:35
highest_cubist_thrillsdont pretend you dont know what a desk isSep 23 08:35
highest_cubist_thrillsits too late to be coySep 23 08:35
schestowitz[TR]yes, but the question needs more specificitySep 23 08:35
DaemonFCA standing desk made of cocobolo wood, no doubt.Sep 23 08:35
schestowitz[TR]we had desks in kindergarten tooSep 23 08:35
techrights-news"Prototyping is moving. It’s the meeting, the considering, and the conceptualizing, but with iterative progress in a concrete artifact." β˜› | Source: Jim NielsenSep 23 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Moving With Prototypes - Jim Nielsen’s BlogSep 23 08:35
highest_cubist_thrillswell yeah but that wasnt really your deskSep 23 08:35
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean YOUR deskSep 23 08:36
schestowitz[TR]nor was the one at homeSep 23 08:36
schestowitz[TR]it was the parents'Sep 23 08:36
schestowitz[TR]as a student, I rentedSep 23 08:36
schestowitz[TR]I have photos of those desksSep 23 08:36
highest_cubist_thrillsyouve never had a desk of your own?Sep 23 08:36
schestowitz[TR]I use one nowSep 23 08:36
schestowitz[TR]I assembled it  myselfSep 23 08:36
starstreaki use a folding tableSep 23 08:36
DaemonFCOne day someone will make a movie about Matt. Dr. GULAG, or how I learned to stop worrying and love the groomers.Sep 23 08:36
highest_cubist_thrillsso when was your firstSep 23 08:36
schestowitz[TR]never thought about it, but the first was improvedSep 23 08:37
schestowitz[TR]it was a folding tableSep 23 08:37
schestowitz[TR]*imrovisedSep 23 08:37
highest_cubist_thrillsthats commonSep 23 08:37
*schestowitz[TR] looks for photosSep 23 08:37
highest_cubist_thrillsi had a long coffee table from the 70s in my first placeSep 23 08:37
mjg59_DaemonFC: You seem to have extremely odd opinions about my sexualitySep 23 08:37
scientesmjg59_, I don't care what animals you prefer to have sex withSep 23 08:38
scientesor maybe you are a plant man, idkSep 23 08:38
schestowitz[TR] 23 08:38
DaemonFCHey, that's his........"partner".Sep 23 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Winter in ManchesterSep 23 08:38
schestowitz[TR]many photos there of the deskSep 23 08:38
DaemonFCSounds so clinical, doesn't it?Sep 23 08:38
DaemonFCCold, detached.Sep 23 08:38
DaemonFCYou can really feel the love....Sep 23 08:39
mjg59_Almost like there isn't a better word to describe the relationshipSep 23 08:39
DaemonFC"Partner"Sep 23 08:39
schestowitz[TR]rianne used to workm like this 23 08:39
starstreaklol acerSep 23 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 2014-6Sep 23 08:39
schestowitz[TR]a decade agoSep 23 08:39
highest_cubist_thrills/me actually liked acerSep 23 08:39
highest_cubist_thrillsnot because they were goodSep 23 08:40
highest_cubist_thrillsasus was being a dickSep 23 08:40
DaemonFCThe word "Partner" is such an insult that when the state of New Jersey ordered eHarmony to comply with an anti-discrimination law, they launched an entirely separate Web site called "Compatible Partners".Sep 23 08:40
mjg59_DaemonFC: What word should I be using?Sep 23 08:40
DaemonFCYet, you use it openly to describe the object of your affection?Sep 23 08:40
DaemonFCAnything but that!Sep 23 08:40
mjg59_Give me an exampleSep 23 08:41
techrights-news"The ROS-Industrial Community Meeting was held on Wednesday, 9/21, and it brought with it a few interesting updates for the Industrial ROS community" β˜› | Source: ROS IndustrialSep 23 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Fall 2022 ROS-I Community Meeting Happenings β€” ROS-IndustrialSep 23 08:41
DaemonFCWell, can't use spouse because you're not serious. At least I think you aren't....Sep 23 08:41
DaemonFCHmmm.....Sep 23 08:41
highest_cubist_thrills beautifulSep 23 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 20190220 061634Sep 23 08:41
DaemonFCGirlfriend/Boyfriend? Too juvenile.Sep 23 08:41
mjg59_Also inaccurateSep 23 08:42
mjg59_Not a girl(tm)Sep 23 08:42
techrights-news"In a book written by Persky, he goes over some of the more recurring customers on the site" β˜› | Source: TechSpotSep 23 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The last man selling floppy disks says he still receives orders from airlines | TechSpotSep 23 08:42
DaemonFCIt's a failure of the language, I suppose.Sep 23 08:42
DaemonFCPoets didn't really plan on "Partners".Sep 23 08:42
mjg59_"Lover" is inaccurate because we're more than thatSep 23 08:42
mjg59_If there were a more emotionally evocative term that conveyed the correct impression I'd use it, but I'm not aware of oneSep 23 08:43
DaemonFCI'd work on that.Sep 23 08:43
schestowitz[TR]partners sounds business-orientedSep 23 08:44
mjg59_But since there isn't, we mutually decided on "partner"Sep 23 08:44
schestowitz[TR]but then you condemn DaemonFC  for usint rhe termSep 23 08:44
highest_cubist_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> partners sounds business-oriented <- im going to vote in favour of partner, not that its a voteSep 23 08:44
schestowitz[TR]when you yourself chose itSep 23 08:44
DaemonFCAt least Immigration will finally stop getting on my ass to prove my marriage is real, eventually.Sep 23 08:44
highest_cubist_thrillsit can be used in business tooSep 23 08:44
DaemonFCAs depressed as Al Bundy was with Peg, he always came home to her.Sep 23 08:45
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Uh, I criticised him criticising me for using itSep 23 08:45
highest_cubist_thrillsbut its not exactly new millennial lingo in this contextSep 23 08:45
schestowitz[TR]she was portrayed as the nymphSep 23 08:45
schestowitz[TR]like al was doing her a favourSep 23 08:45
highest_cubist_thrillsdfcs giant bug up his arse about the use of the word partner is funnySep 23 08:45
schestowitz[TR]maybe I don't remember it accuratelySep 23 08:46
highest_cubist_thrillsthis has been going on for like a year nowSep 23 08:46
DaemonFCAl was loyal to a fault even if he wasn't that smart.Sep 23 08:46
schestowitz[TR]anyway, spouse does not apply hereSep 23 08:46
highest_cubist_thrillsspouse implies marriageSep 23 08:46
schestowitz[TR]and french does not have a way around "ee" and e" (with accents)Sep 23 08:46
DaemonFCSpouse implies loyalty.Sep 23 08:46
DaemonFCSpouse implies you take it seriously.Sep 23 08:46
schestowitz[TR]wedlockSep 23 08:46
schestowitz[TR]in some religion, the concept of "relationship" is offensiveSep 23 08:47
schestowitz[TR]you have no realationship per se until you marrySep 23 08:47
schestowitz[TR]and sometimes not by your own choosingSep 23 08:47
mjg59_That seems off-topicSep 23 08:47
DaemonFCI'm not sure why mjg59_ would remain unmarried unless he's worried about a gold digger or he doesn't want to commit.Sep 23 08:47
schestowitz[TR]in parts of china too, I thinkSep 23 08:47
schestowitz[TR]it's not a purely religious thingSep 23 08:47
DaemonFCThose are the only two possibilities that usually apply.Sep 23 08:47
schestowitz[TR]mjg59_: or you are not comfortable with the topicSep 23 08:48
schestowitz[TR]you always being off-topic stuff hereSep 23 08:48
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: No, just not comfortable with your hypocrisySep 23 08:48
schestowitz[TR]and not you want to steer awaySep 23 08:48
mjg59_If off-topic stuff is fine, stop complaining abou titSep 23 08:48
schestowitz[TR]<DaemonFC> I'm not sure why mjg59_ would remain unmarried unless he's worried about a gold digger or he doesn't want to commit.\Sep 23 08:48
DaemonFCmjg59_, Gold digger or committment issues?Sep 23 08:48
schestowitz[TR]maybe if it doesn't work out he'll be accused of rapeSep 23 08:48
mjg59_DaemonFC: A pandemic isn't really the best time for people with family on two different continents to have a wedding?Sep 23 08:49
schestowitz[TR]there's some historySep 23 08:49
DaemonFC<mjg59_> DaemonFC: A pandemic isn't really the best time for people with family on two different continents to have a wedding?Sep 23 08:49
DaemonFCNeither was when I got married.Sep 23 08:49
DaemonFCBut I did it anyway.Sep 23 08:49
schestowitz[TR]you can have a wedding with 3 peoleSep 23 08:49
mjg59_Cool?Sep 23 08:49
schestowitz[TR]we had one with 5Sep 23 08:49
DaemonFCAnd I overcame our problems instead of hiding under my bed like a wuss.Sep 23 08:49
mjg59_I'd prefer one that was more fun for everyoneSep 23 08:49
DaemonFCWhat's stopping you from having fun?Sep 23 08:50
schestowitz[TR]you don't know how to waste moneySep 23 08:50
DaemonFCDid Congress pass a law making it illegal to have fun?Sep 23 08:50
schestowitz[TR]so you throw it at lawyersSep 23 08:50
schestowitz[TR]to pester rianne and ISep 23 08:50
schestowitz[TR]and then want to show how "big shit" you areSep 23 08:50
schestowitz[TR]*shotSep 23 08:50
schestowitz[TR]by flying people across an oceanSep 23 08:50
schestowitz[TR]for a 3-hour bashSep 23 08:50
schestowitz[TR]I won't comment on enviromental impactSep 23 08:51
schestowitz[TR]nat friedman flew people to italySep 23 08:51
DaemonFCIf the ceremony takes longer than it does to make a decent margarita, it's gone on too long.Sep 23 08:51
schestowitz[TR]so that little spioled stephenie schatz can show off to her mates with photosSep 23 08:51
schestowitz[TR]in social control mediaSep 23 08:51
schestowitz[TR]and garner "likes"Sep 23 08:51
mjg59_You really do have a bunch of pent up anger at people who really don't have any impact on your lifeSep 23 08:51
DaemonFCI don't have that many photos honestly. A few with mom and some of Mandy's family and us up there with the judge.Sep 23 08:52
DaemonFCAnd dinner.Sep 23 08:52
DaemonFCThat's pretty much it.Sep 23 08:52
techrights-news"Garrett Hawkins, president of the Missouri Farm Bureau, testified to the broadband needs of farmers." β˜› | Source: Broadband BreakfastSep 23 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Republican Congressmen Criticize NTIA, FCC Absence at Farm Bill Hearing : Broadband BreakfastSep 23 08:52
techrights-news[Old] "Doctors in British Columbia can now prescribe a national park pass to patients in need of the physical or mental health benefits offered by time spent in nature" β˜› | Source: Global News CASep 23 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-B.C. doctors can now prescribe national park pass to patients who need nature time | Globalnews.caSep 23 08:52
DaemonFCmjg59_, So you're afraid of COVID and that's going to prevent you from getting married......forever?Sep 23 08:53
DaemonFCGod, you would bomb out so bad if you ended up in that movie Defending Your Life.Sep 23 08:53
techrights-news"Credit the coronavirus pandemic for wastewater’s growing role in tracking emerging threats to public health." β˜› | Source: Bridge MichiganSep 23 08:54
DaemonFCCOVID will be here forever. If you're vaccinated, haven't you done everything reasonable? Careful about going outside, Matt.Sep 23 08:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Sewer poop: it’s not just for COVID testing anymore | Bridge MichiganSep 23 08:54
DaemonFCA brick may fall and crack your skull, you know.Sep 23 08:54
DaemonFCThat's life.Sep 23 08:54
DaemonFCOne minute you're here, the next minute it's party time for all the little worms.Sep 23 08:55
DaemonFCYou're "missing out".Sep 23 08:55
DaemonFCYou know, that's one reason why I don't let many things bother me anymore.Sep 23 08:55
DaemonFCLike, really bother me.Sep 23 08:56
DaemonFCI got through the past three years, awful as they were, with no plan at all.Sep 23 08:57
DaemonFCJust one thing at a time.Sep 23 08:57
DaemonFCEven while my life was being turned upside down I planned for things to get better even with no guarantee that they would.Sep 23 08:59
DaemonFCBecause it's what you do.Sep 23 08:59
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techrights-newsGitHus is NOT FOSS. It's an occupation against it! It's also an attack on Git itself (de-commoditisation by Microsoft, vendor lock-in) β˜› |Sep 23 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | What You Miss By Only Checking GitHub | Cogito, Ergo SumanaSep 23 08:59
techrights-newsPopcorn time (not the program) β˜› | Source: VarietySep 23 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Instagram Down: Users Report Widespread Technical Problems With App - VarietySep 23 08:59
techrights-newsProprietary designs and patents, ripping off the most vulnerable people β˜› | Source: Teen VogueSep 23 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Why Are Prosthetics So Expensive? Researchers Are Working to Change That | Teen VogueSep 23 09:00
DaemonFCSelf-hosting a repo and running gitweb is an option.Sep 23 09:00
techrights-news"A new rhythm game called "Trombone Champ" has struck a chord with users online, bringing the kind of much-needed levity to the internet that only a trombone can" β˜› | Source: CNNSep 23 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The internet's new favorite video game is like 'Guitar Hero' but with trombones | CNN BusinessSep 23 09:00
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: gitweb is OKSep 23 09:01
schestowitz[TR]but gemini can work tooSep 23 09:01
DaemonFCI'm sure the worst kernel I've built was better than CBL-Mariner.Sep 23 09:01
schestowitz[TR]and you can put a http/html gateway in front of itSep 23 09:02
schestowitz[TR]nobody uses that microsofgt trashSep 23 09:02
schestowitz[TR]it's just a googlwebombing crapSep 23 09:02
schestowitz[TR]foir micreosoft to polliyute Linux signalSep 23 09:02
schestowitz[TR]and lie about "loving" linuxSep 23 09:02
schestowitz[TR]like WSL used mto beSep 23 09:02
schestowitz[TR]nobody mentioned it for monthsSep 23 09:02
schestowitz[TR]now Canonical is sucking the boots of MicrosoftSep 23 09:03
schestowitz[TR]and then the Microsoft boosters cite CanonicalSep 23 09:03
schestowitz[TR]to make it seem like Microsoft owns LinuxSep 23 09:03
techrights-news"Lima is powered by QEMU and is frequently used (via colima) to run containers on macOS. That is, it can be used as an alternative to docker desktop." β˜› | Source: EarthlySep 23 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Lima VM - Linux Virtual Machines On macOS - Earthly BlogSep 23 09:03
techrights-news"decades of experience" β˜› lobbying for bad companies 23 09:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux Foundation launches European division β€’ The RegisterSep 23 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux Foundation β€˜Europe’ a Front Group for Patent Trolls and American Monopolies | TechrightsSep 23 09:04
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techrights-news"The Court of Justice confirms that EU law precludes the general and indiscriminate retention of traffic and location data" β˜› | Source: CJEUSep 23 09:04
techrights-news"Over the past eight months, Han Nyein Oo’s Telegram channels, and those of other pro-coup figures, including self-defined journalist Thazin Oo" β˜› | Source: WiredSep 23 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Telegram Has a Serious Doxing Problem | WIREDSep 23 09:04
techrights-news"AB 2273, or the California Age-Appropriate Design Code Act, promises to make the Internet safer for childrenβ€”in part by tightening age verification" β˜› | Source: IEEESep 23 09:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | California’s Proposed Law Could Change the Internet - IEEE SpectrumSep 23 09:05
techrights-news"In this tutorial, you will build a facial recognition system." β˜› | Source: EarthlySep 23 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Creating and Deploying a Facial Recognition System with Jupyter Notebooks and Anvil - Earthly BlogSep 23 09:05
techrights-news"To give a bit of context on the Fediverse switch, herΓ©s how I use the Big Tech Services: [...]" β˜› | Source: TuMFatigSep 23 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | TuM'Fatig -Sep 23 09:05
techrights-news"The current version of Certificate Transparency is described in RFC 9162." β˜› | Source: uni TorontoSep 23 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/TLSCertTransLogsClientViewSep 23 09:06
techrights-news"According to Crew, the threats in question were made by a member of Vorherrschaft Division on a far-right extremist messaging site called Telegram." β˜› | Source: SalonSep 23 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Secret Service warned Capitol Police of neo-Nazi threats a week prior to insurrection | Salon.comSep 23 09:07
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techrights-news"Rewilding in cities can tackle these impacts with more diverse greenery and space for water, which cools the air and absorbs rainfall" β˜› | Source: Newsquest Media Group LtdSep 23 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Rewilding in cities can tackle climate-driven heatwaves and floods – ZSL | The National WalesSep 23 09:09
techrights-newsOverpopulation still the elephant in the room. The cities themselves are means of accommodating far too many people. Over capacity = Overpopulation. See countries where there's no chance of feeding the people (bar imports): Macao, Singapore.... β˜› |Sep 23 09:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Rewilding our cities could reduce impacts of extreme weather, says new report | Zoological Society of London (ZSL)Sep 23 09:12
techrights-newsNeed more nature β˜› |Sep 23 09:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | New report: Without nature, there is no path to a climate-safe futureSep 23 09:13
techrights-newsUK Composition Of Foods Integrated Dataset (COFID) β˜› | Source: PLOSSep 23 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Variations in greenhouse gas emissions of individual diets: Associations between the greenhouse gas emissions and nutrient intake in the United Kingdom | PLOS ONESep 23 09:13
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techrights-newsInsincere solutioneering, e.g. claims corporations will solve climate change, won't help the fake (centrist, corporate) left. It helps science deniers... as they target straw men arguments.Sep 23 09:14
techrights-news"We have a 55 inch QLED Samsung TV from 2018." β˜› | Source: Didier StevensSep 23 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Quickpost: Tuning The Electric Energy Consumption Of My TV | Didier StevensSep 23 09:15
techrights-news"$30 Million Seized: How the Cryptocurrency Community Is Making It Difficult for North Korean Hackers To Profit" β˜› | Source: David RosenthalSep 23 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | DSHR's Blog: Cryptocurrency-enabled CrimeSep 23 09:16
techrights-newsFossil fuels make up 90% of Middle East air pollution β˜› | Source: RTLSep 23 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | RTL Today - Dangerous levels: Fossil fuels make up 90% of Middle East air pollution: studySep 23 09:16
techrights-news"A total of 1,600 square kilometers (994 square miles) of the lagoon and the nearby Mediterranean coastline will now be legally represented by a group of caretakers made up of local officials" β˜› | Source: ABCSep 23 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Spain gives personhood status to Mar Menor salt-water lagoon - ABC NewsSep 23 09:17
techrights-news"This will allow the rights of the lagoon located in southeastern Spain to be defended in court, as though it were a person or business." β˜› | Source: RTLSep 23 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | RTL Today - Lagoon has "legal identity": Spain grants personhood status to threatened lagoonSep 23 09:17
techrights-news"Probably one of my favourite pieces of software. I often have a love / hate relationship with it due to some historic instability issues" β˜› | Source: GamingOnLinuxSep 23 09:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE are raising funds for the Kdenlive video editor | GamingOnLinuxSep 23 09:18
techrights-news"become a Kdenlive patro" β˜› |Sep 23 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Kdenlive Fundraiser - KdenliveSep 23 09:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(β„Ή) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 23 09:20
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Thursday, September 22, 2022 | Techrights βš“ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 09:20
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techrights-news"Microsoft Corp. won’t label social media posts that appear to be false in order to avoid the appearance that the company is trying to censor speech online" β˜› Liars. 23 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Sep 23 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | When It Comes to Killing Businesses Microsoft Defends Its Crown | TechrightsSep 23 09:22
techrights-news"climate doom" β˜› | Source: Gannett "My social media is littered with videos from teens my age spreading hopelessness and despair"Sep 23 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Climate 'doomism' is going viral on TikTok and it's hurting Gen ZSep 23 09:22
DaemonFCTikTok hurts everyone that uses it.Sep 23 09:23
techrights-newsSO WHAT IS THE POINT HAVING CHUCK? "All of his speeches are written or vetted by the government" β˜› | Source: Federal News NetworkSep 23 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Constitution stops Charles becoming Britain’s β€˜green’ king | Federal News NetworkSep 23 09:24
DaemonFCI never thought I'd see the day where the FDA felt it was important to urge the public not to eat chicken cooked in Nyquil.Sep 23 09:24
techrights-news"Whistleblower Frances Haugen -- a former Facebook engineer who leaked documents suggesting the firm put profits before safety -- on Thursday launched an organization" β˜› | Source: News AUSep 23 09:24
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DaemonFCThis _is_ what happens when you let the country go to shit, you know.Sep 23 09:24
techrights-news"Iranians have taken to the streets "to achieve their fundamental rights and human dignity..." β˜› | Source: France24Sep 23 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Iran’s Raisi vows probe of woman’s death that sparked deadly protestsSep 23 09:25
techrights-news"the investigation is related to tweets" β˜› | Source: HRWSep 23 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Saudi Arabia: Drop Baseless Investigation of US Citizen | Human Rights WatchSep 23 09:25
techrights-news[Old] "In the last 45 years, I've made eight. That shows what a blacklist can do to a career." β˜› | Source: ABCSep 23 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Actress from Hollywood's 'Golden Age' turned activist, Marsha Hunt, dies aged 104 in California - ABC NewsSep 23 09:25
DaemonFCmjg59_ should record a Public Service Announcement where he has to sing No Night So Long and then urges children not to eat Nyquil chicken.Sep 23 09:25
techrights-news"Now, Jones is pushing back, bringing suit against some of the Facebook groups" β˜› | Source: EducationWeekSep 23 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | A School Librarian Pushes Back on Censorship and Gets Death Threats and Online HarassmentSep 23 09:25
DaemonFCAs part of his community service hours.Sep 23 09:25
mjg59_Community service for what?Sep 23 09:27
DaemonFCCorrupting the youth of the city, of course. Silly. You know, this really is quite lenient. They made the last guy consume hemlock for that.Sep 23 09:27
techrights-news"Her father, Gholamreza Moaiery, who spoke to CPJ via messaging app, confirmed the arrest." β˜› | Source: CPJSep 23 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Committee to Protect Journalists – Defending Journalists Worldwide. - Committee to Protect JournalistsSep 23 09:28
techrights-news"Assange revealed some documents and evidence from the U.S. embassy talking about the 2012 elections" β˜› |Sep 23 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | President LΓ³pez Obrador calls Assange a Quixote of freedom of speech - Prensa LatinaSep 23 09:28
techrights-news"Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the people of Ukraine, Julian Assange, Sonia Guajajara, and the Colombian Comision de Verdad are among the nominees for the 2022 Sakharov prize" β˜› | Source: EuractiveSep 23 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Zelenskyy, Ukrainians, and Assange among nominees for 2022 Sakharov prize – EURACTIV.comSep 23 09:28
DaemonFCNyquil chicken....Sep 23 09:29
DaemonFCWhere the fuck does this shit even come from?Sep 23 09:29
mjg59_DaemonFC: Corrupting the youth in what way?Sep 23 09:29
schestowitz[TR]Nyquil?Sep 23 09:29
schestowitz[TR] ?Sep 23 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Cold medicine - WikipediaSep 23 09:30
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], Maybe they call it something else in the UK?Sep 23 09:30
DaemonFCYeah, cold medicine. Knocks you out.Sep 23 09:30
schestowitz[TR]I know they stuff animals with antibioticsSep 23 09:30
schestowitz[TR]and steroid-like thingsSep 23 09:30
schestowitz[TR]for growthSep 23 09:30
schestowitz[TR]like bovine growth hormoneSep 23 09:30
schestowitz[TR]and then stuff the "meat" with waterSep 23 09:30
schestowitz[TR]to reach "weight targets"Sep 23 09:31
schestowitz[TR]this is what capitalism does to food... AND animalsSep 23 09:31
schestowitz[TR]they're "products"Sep 23 09:31
mjg59_Yeah that's not what's being discussed hereSep 23 09:31
highest_cubist_thrillsand softwareSep 23 09:31
schestowitz[TR]then the media goes on and on demonising peopple who grow their own foodsSep 23 09:31
DaemonFCI can't use Nyquil even if I am really sick.Sep 23 09:31
schestowitz[TR]it's unsafeSep 23 09:31
schestowitz[TR]unlike someee piece of "meat"Sep 23 09:31
DaemonFCI have to use Dayquil even at night.Sep 23 09:31
schestowitz[TR]like GM "salmon"Sep 23 09:32
schestowitz[TR]highest_cubist_thrills: lette to hobbyistsSep 23 09:32
schestowitz[TR]is maths a product yet?Sep 23 09:32
schestowitz[TR]are formulas patented?Sep 23 09:32
DaemonFCIf I take dextromethorphan, it can interact with some other medication I'm on quite badly.Sep 23 09:32
schestowitz[TR]some areSep 23 09:32
schestowitz[TR]under guise of BM and swpatrsSep 23 09:32
highest_cubist_thrillswhen they figure out how to create locking for mathSep 23 09:33
highest_cubist_thrillslockinSep 23 09:33
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean copyright and patents are a good startSep 23 09:33
schestowitz[TR]"maths you cannot use"Sep 23 09:33
schestowitz[TR]"infringing maths"Sep 23 09:33
highest_cubist_thrillsbut people can still use pencil and paperSep 23 09:33
highest_cubist_thrillshome calcualation is killing the math industrySep 23 09:33
highest_cubist_thrillsAND ITS ILLEGALSep 23 09:33
DaemonFCI have no idea what the fuck the "programming fee" is for the ABS module on my car.Sep 23 09:33
DaemonFCThey have to load software onto it at the car repair shop?Sep 23 09:33
schestowitz[TR]pen and paper are "efficient infringement" Sep 23 09:34
schestowitz[TR]and "piracy"Sep 23 09:34
highest_cubist_thrillswe need pencil rights managementSep 23 09:34
DaemonFCIf it's for a certain type of car, then shouldn't it be programmed at the factory?Sep 23 09:34
highest_cubist_thrillspeople who do math at homeSep 23 09:34
DaemonFCMaybe it has generic software and they have to load the correct setting into it for that particular car.Sep 23 09:34
highest_cubist_thrillshave no appreciation for the hard word and dedicationSep 23 09:34
highest_cubist_thrillsof thousands of human computers working tirelessly at desksSep 23 09:35
DaemonFCI don't know who would eat Nyquil chicken.Sep 23 09:35
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highest_cubist_thrillspeople who have spent their careers rechecking their sums by handSep 23 09:35
DaemonFCEven when I'm really sick, I'll still eat Taco Bell, so that's what I go grab.Sep 23 09:35
highest_cubist_thrillsso some snot-nosed kid who cant even find a derivativeSep 23 09:35
highest_cubist_thrillscan go and... Sep 23 09:35
highest_cubist_thrillsthey dont care if mathematicians are out of workSep 23 09:36
highest_cubist_thrillsfor them, every equation is just "marks on paper"Sep 23 09:36
highest_cubist_thrillsyeah well, someone had to figure out those marksSep 23 09:36
highest_cubist_thrillsand if you stop paying themSep 23 09:37
highest_cubist_thrillsthen theyll stop figuring out math for usSep 23 09:37
highest_cubist_thrillsis that what you wantSep 23 09:37
DaemonFCmjg59_, Community Service for writing proprietary software. Sep 23 09:37
DaemonFCIt's dumbing people down, obviously.Sep 23 09:37
mjg59_Uh huhSep 23 09:37
DaemonFCNyquil Chicken TikTok Challenge.Sep 23 09:37
highest_cubist_thrillsyou wouldnt download a calculatorSep 23 09:37
mjg59_That's pretty clearly not what you meantSep 23 09:37
DaemonFCYou know, if they delete TikTok and tell them to go do their fucking math homework, things like this wouldn't happen.Sep 23 09:38
DaemonFCParents act like the kid gets a cell phone from nowhere.Sep 23 09:38
techrights-news"Great Transition Initiative" β˜› | Source: OverpopulationSep 23 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Natural Synergy between Population Stabilization and Reproductive Rights - The Overpopulation ProjectSep 23 09:38
DaemonFC<mjg59_> That's pretty clearly not what you meantSep 23 09:39
DaemonFCDid you infer that I meant something by Nyquil chicken?Sep 23 09:39
DaemonFCOh no, no. That would be something like Dr. Pizza fucked up.Sep 23 09:40
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techrights-news"The 1835 Treaty of New Echota, which was signed by then-President Andrew Jackson" β˜› | Source: AxiosSep 23 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Cherokee Nation launches campaign for delegate in CongressSep 23 09:40
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DaemonFCI'm sure you're not like the rest of those Microsoft people at all.Sep 23 09:40
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], My browser remembered that I looked at Dr. Pizza's Twitter and recommends him every time I go to order pizza now.Sep 23 09:41
DaemonFCI really need to fix that.Sep 23 09:41
techrights-news"Amanpour pointed out that no previous presidents had requested this when she interviewed them outside Iran." β˜› | Source: BBCSep 23 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Iran: CNN cancels interview with Iranian president over headscarf demand - BBC NewsSep 23 09:41
techrights-news"Canal+ Group, the Vivendi-owned French TV group, has won its court case against TF1" β˜› | Source: VarietySep 23 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canal+ Wins Court Case Against TF1 in Carriage Fees Dispute - VarietySep 23 09:43
DaemonFC<highest_cubist_thrills> you wouldnt download a calculatorSep 23 09:43
DaemonFCOh but I would......Sep 23 09:43
DaemonFCIf I needed to, that is.Sep 23 09:44
techrights-news[Old] "This report confirms that DRM represents a challenge to privacy interests" β˜› |Sep 23 09:44
techrights-newsDigital Restrictions (DRM): "Collier will oversee advertising sales and content for Roku’s owned-and-operated channels" β˜› | Source: VarietySep 23 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Charlie Collier Exits Fox Corp. to Join Roku as President of Media - VarietySep 23 09:44
techrights-news"The standard caught on, all software supports it, the patents are dead." β˜› | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)Sep 23 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Will JPEG-XL be the JPEG replacement we’ve been waiting 30 years for? | BaronHK's RantsSep 23 09:45
DaemonFCI wouldn't download a Microsoft calculator. They explain that they can't do square roots correctly because their high precision math library is being used.Sep 23 09:46
DaemonFC:)Sep 23 09:46
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techrights-news"Effective immediately, Getty Images will cease to accept all submissions created using AI" β˜› |Sep 23 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Important Submission Requirements Update re: AI Generated ContentSep 23 09:46
techrights-news"The U.S. recorded music industry generated $7.69 billion during 2022’s opening half" β˜› | Source: Digital Music NewsSep 23 09:46
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DaemonFCHow does the record industry make money?Sep 23 09:47
schestowitz[TR]<DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR], My browser remembered that I looked at Dr. Pizza's Twitter and recommends him every time I go to order pizza now.Sep 23 09:47
schestowitz[TR]did he tip him?Sep 23 09:47
schestowitz[TR]or "only the tip"?Sep 23 09:48
DaemonFC15% or 20%?Sep 23 09:48
DaemonFCOr is this one of those hipster places where it's a $40 pizza and recommends a 50% tip?Sep 23 09:48
DaemonFCmjg59_ probably goes to those.Sep 23 09:48
DaemonFCPeople get it there.Sep 23 09:48
schestowitz[TR]get what?>Sep 23 09:48
schestowitz[TR]the tip?Sep 23 09:48
schestowitz[TR]or tip-off?Sep 23 09:49
DaemonFCMaybe. He was very non-specific.Sep 23 09:49
schestowitz[TR]conde nast pays salarySep 23 09:49
schestowitz[TR]drpizza buys sexSep 23 09:49
schestowitz[TR]from kidsSep 23 09:49
schestowitz[TR]little kidsSep 23 09:49
schestowitz[TR]then pastes some email he got from microsoftSep 23 09:49
schestowitz[TR]then gets back to being busy with kidsSep 23 09:49
schestowitz[TR]microsoft: better carry on or else!Sep 23 09:50
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): UbuntuDDE Remix 22.04 Brings the Deepin Desktop Environment to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” UbuntuDDE Remix 22.04 Brings the Deepin Desktop Environment to Ubuntu 22.04 LTSSep 23 09:51
DaemonFCWhy is it that people grow into adulthood and still have the eating habits of a child? Is it mostly pervy people that do this?Sep 23 09:52
mjg59_DaemonFC: Man one day you're complaining that I don't tip enough, the next you're saying I habitually frequent places that ask for large tipsSep 23 09:52
mjg59_Make your mind upSep 23 09:52
DaemonFCJohn only ate pizzas and ravioli out of a can.Sep 23 09:52
DaemonFC<mjg59_> Make your mind upSep 23 09:52
schestowitz[TR]we never ordered food homeSep 23 09:52
DaemonFCNo, I said it recommended the tip.Sep 23 09:52
schestowitz[TR]we do this 'stupid' thing called cookingSep 23 09:52
DaemonFCYeah, I'll be boiling a cabbage for a casserole tomorrow.Sep 23 09:53
DaemonFCI could eat cabbage basically every day. It's one of my favorite vegetables.Sep 23 09:53
schestowitz[TR]cost-efficientSep 23 09:53
schestowitz[TR]|"crunchy salad"Sep 23 09:53
schestowitz[TR]we just had vegan cheese with reddishSep 23 09:54
DaemonFCI actually pressure cook cabbages after the cooktop disaster at the motel.Sep 23 09:54
DaemonFCThe vegan cheese has gotten a lot better than it used to be.Sep 23 09:54
DaemonFCYou can still taste a difference, but Taco Bell tried "vegan cheese" in the 90s and it was a marketing disaster.Sep 23 09:55
DaemonFCIt didn't melt properly. It was weird.Sep 23 09:55
schestowitz[TR]it can be fried OKSep 23 09:56
schestowitz[TR]we got it quarter priceSep 23 09:56
schestowitz[TR]and lots of themSep 23 09:56
schestowitz[TR]better post daily links now... got enoughSep 23 09:56
DaemonFCmjg59_, Just lean over into the microphone and tell the gerbil it can't go to college.Sep 23 09:57
DaemonFC(South Park)Sep 23 09:57
DaemonFCTime for bed. (past time, really)Sep 23 09:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” Open Hardware/Modding: Kits and Technical Resource CollectionsSep 23 10:05
techrights-news"There was a time when soft drinks only came in six-packs of twelve-ounce bottles in the grocery store" β˜› | Source: Counter PunchSep 23 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Where Has All the Water Gone? Check the Grocery Store. - CounterPunch.orgSep 23 10:06
techrights-news"When you have the cloud around you, you are toxic" β˜› | Source: Counter PunchSep 23 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Ways the Left is Vulnerable to Cancellation Campaigning and How We Might Overcome This Tendency - CounterPunch.orgSep 23 10:07
techrights-news"It's that time of the year again, and NodeConf EU is almost upon us. This annual event is one of the leading Node.js events in Europe. It brings together contributors and innovators from the Node.js community to deliver a wide range of talks and workshops." 23 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Join the Red Hat team at NodeConf EU 2022 | Red Hat DeveloperSep 23 10:09
techrights-newsReproducible Builds (diffoscope): diffoscope 222 released 23 10:10
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scientes///IBM Team/////Sep 23 10:10
scientesInternational Business FedorasSep 23 10:12
schestowitz[TR]Imperialism Business FrameworkSep 23 10:13
schestowitz[TR]now with offshootsSep 23 10:14
schestowitz[TR]like GAFAMSep 23 10:14
schestowitz[TR]subsidised by taxpayersSep 23 10:14
scientesschestowitz, consdering that they didn't pay me for work they accepted, that sounds correctSep 23 10:18
scientesschestowitz, except that the tax base in the US is irreleventSep 23 10:18
scientesall money comes from stealing from foreign accountsSep 23 10:18
scientesvia the FATCA for exampleSep 23 10:18
schestowitz[TR]that tooSep 23 10:18
schestowitz[TR]but also "investment";Sep 23 10:18
schestowitz[TR]like KSASep 23 10:18
schestowitz[TR]we let them terrorise the regionSep 23 10:19
scientesand the Azor battalionSep 23 10:19
schestowitz[TR]and they "invest" in "Bay Area"Sep 23 10:19
scientesand VenezuelaSep 23 10:19
schestowitz[TR]and "Silican Valley"Sep 23 10:19
schestowitz[TR]*conSep 23 10:19
scientesschestowitz, more like invest in the "Butt Area"Sep 23 10:19
scientesor the Bumm AreaSep 23 10:19
schestowitz[TR]there are bums thereSep 23 10:19
schestowitz[TR]homeless Sep 23 10:19
scientesconsidering how many bums are in that citySep 23 10:19
schestowitz[TR]it's expensive to live thereSep 23 10:19
scientesBums and ButtsSep 23 10:19
schestowitz[TR]after all those decadesSep 23 10:19
schestowitz[TR] 23 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Linux Foundation Has Formally Changed Its Mission! (Based on IRS Files) | TechrightsSep 23 10:19
schestowitz[TR]you could say Gay AreaSep 23 10:20
techrights-ipfs-bot(β„Ή) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 23 10:20
scienteswhen I got financed to present in San Jose for the LLVM conference I slept next to the riverSep 23 10:20
schestowitz[TR]like Canal Street in ManchesterSep 23 10:20
scientes<schestowitz[TR]> you could say Gay AreaSep 23 10:20
scientesthe vagina is only 1.5 inches from the butt-holeSep 23 10:20
scientesso its all sort of the same areaSep 23 10:20
schestowitz[TR] 23 10:20
schestowitz[TR]photos Sep 23 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux Foundation Has Moved to More Expensive Offices, Based on IRS Papers | TechrightsSep 23 10:21
schestowitz[TR]6 million a yearSep 23 10:21
schestowitz[TR]for "ofice"Sep 23 10:21
schestowitz[TR]6 millionSep 23 10:21
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scientesthey need to look more important than they areSep 23 10:21
schestowitz[TR]office for less than 100 peopleSep 23 10:21
schestowitz[TR]scientes: yes, like lawyersSep 23 10:21
schestowitz[TR]so they can charge $300 an hourSep 23 10:21
scienteswhile Linus is complaining about how many bums are in Portland, and that he is considerin moving back to FinlandSep 23 10:21
schestowitz[TR]to make photocopies of papersSep 23 10:21
schestowitz[TR]mundane workSep 23 10:21
schestowitz[TR]scientes: did he openly complains about it?Sep 23 10:22
schestowitz[TR]if so, I missed itSep 23 10:22
schestowitz[TR]my sister lives thereSep 23 10:22
scientesit was an interview at the start of 2021Sep 23 10:22
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security Issues and Proprietary Software ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 10:22
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scientesyeah, he was like "it totally sucks here, everything is falling apart unless you are rolling in $$$$$ like me"Sep 23 10:22
schestowitz[TR]he must be living in a nice gated areaSep 23 10:23
scienteslots of armed penguinsSep 23 10:23
scientesin go-kartsSep 23 10:23
schestowitz[TR]lolSep 23 10:23
schestowitz[TR]and spud gunsSep 23 10:23
scientesdon't forget GNU and BestieSep 23 10:24
scientesthat game is pretty fun actuallySep 23 10:24
scientesthe mario 64 knock-offSep 23 10:24
scientesschestowitz, it is just that I have installed internet to endless "walled" compoundsSep 23 10:25
scientesand they don't have any more to provide services to those hay-houses, let alone securitySep 23 10:25
scientes*moneySep 23 10:25
scientesif you want something that can be secured build some of these 10-story soviet apartmentsSep 23 10:26
scientesand add a basement in case they start doing what they are doing in ukraine to youSep 23 10:27
schestowitz[TR]:(Sep 23 10:27
schestowitz[TR]it's part of the designSep 23 10:27
schestowitz[TR]not bricksSep 23 10:27
scientes(not that the US can't build stuff roughly like that, except that those elevators are quite durable)Sep 23 10:27
schestowitz[TR]metal, concreteSep 23 10:27
scientesnever seen anything quite designed for resiliance as thoseSep 23 10:28
schestowitz[TR]east berlin looks like itSep 23 10:28
scientesand good ventilationSep 23 10:28
scientesin Georgia there were no building codes, and people would add bathrooms with no ventilation, which would rot the whole thing to the ground with mildew in a few yearsSep 23 10:28
scientesbut not so the old soviet buildingsSep 23 10:28
schestowitz[TR]british homes are nice, but many move to apartmentsSep 23 10:29
schestowitz[TR]even terraced is okSep 23 10:29
schestowitz[TR]garden, view..Sep 23 10:29
scientesschestowitz, especially when the banks still grandma's house :)Sep 23 10:30
scientes*stealSep 23 10:30
schestowitz[TR]terraced facing terraced sucks... no view of the skySep 23 10:30
schestowitz[TR]yes, well, living costs went uuupSep 23 10:30
schestowitz[TR]many old widows sell the house back to the bankSep 23 10:30
schestowitz[TR]reverse mortgageSep 23 10:30
schestowitz[TR]remortgageSep 23 10:30
schestowitz[TR]selloutSep 23 10:30
scientesand once the enclosure movement got to its logical end (except crown lands) they had to invent more things to stealSep 23 10:30
schestowitz[TR]so they never own anythingSep 23 10:30
schestowitz[TR]just temporarilySep 23 10:30
schestowitz[TR]lived and die just to workSep 23 10:31
schestowitz[TR]while gaining nothingSep 23 10:31
schestowitz[TR]paid a tax for food and shelterSep 23 10:31
schestowitz[TR]while the oligarchs truck wheelbarrows of money to remote island sSep 23 10:31
schestowitz[TR]except digitallySep 23 10:31
schestowitz[TR]not many queen facesSep 23 10:31
schestowitz[TR]while siccing cops at usSep 23 10:32
schestowitz[TR]if we resistSep 23 10:32 23 10:32
scientesyeah the banner is still upSep 23 10:32
scientesthe Russian national who was found dead, and they didn't bother to tell the embassySep 23 10:32
scientes<schestowitz[TR]> while the oligarchs truck wheelbarrows of money to remote island sSep 23 10:32
scientesschestowitz, you forget they declared Iceland a terrorist stateSep 23 10:32
scientesso that they could steal all Iceland's moneySep 23 10:33
scientesthey being the UK parliamentSep 23 10:34
scientesthe place with all the forms of democracy but no actual democracySep 23 10:34
scientesschestowitz, when I tried to view the new PM's address to parliament I faced "rights" problems---more like "self-righteouss problems", FTFY.Sep 23 10:34
scientes 23 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Embassy’s comment on the UK’s Ministry of Defence statement concerning the clearing of Ukrainian ports of β€œRussian mines”, 29 August, 2022Sep 23 10:36
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Preview ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple PreviewSep 23 10:36
scientesUK claims that Odessa's mines are Russian, when, in fact, they were added by the coup in Ukraine to avoid a landing by Sea of any forerign armySep 23 10:37
scientesbe it Turkish, Russian Federation, or GeorgianSep 23 10:37
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” today's howtosSep 23 10:40
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 10:45
scientes 23 10:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Embassy comment on hostile actions by YouTube, 16 August, 2022Sep 23 10:45
scientesFacebook also banned Naturei Karti, the anti-Zionist Jewish groupSep 23 10:45
schestowitz[TR]"anti-Zionist" or non-zionist?Sep 23 10:51
schestowitz[TR]not the same thingSep 23 10:52
scientesanti-ZionistSep 23 10:52
schestowitz[TR]"anti-Zionist" can mean elimination of Israel as a countrySep 23 10:52
scientesbecause Israel dominating Judaism is toxicSep 23 10:52
scientesnononono, not thatSep 23 10:52
schestowitz[TR]anyway, FB is all about controlSep 23 10:52
scientesI never friended my mother, but then I found myself friended to her, and an eagle posted on her wallSep 23 10:52
scienteswhich she did not postSep 23 10:52
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scientesso I have a homosexual predator who can do anything on FacebookSep 23 10:53
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scientesso considering that, Russia banning Facebook, which is very agressive in South America with fascist corruption, is no loss at allSep 23 10:53
scientesand also, facing the police stealing from me in Batumi based on interactions I had on FacebookSep 23 10:54
scientesand beating me up, et ceteraSep 23 10:54
scientesman, what a fascist placeSep 23 10:54
scientesgoing to the hotel where i stayed the night, and threatening them that they have to raise the priceSep 23 10:55
scientessooooooo much fascismSep 23 10:55
techrights-news"The share of working-age Americans who have a job or are looking for one is at 62.4 percent" β˜› | Source: Counter PunchSep 23 10:56
scientesdon't believe anything like thatSep 23 10:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Non-Mystery of a Smaller Labor Force - CounterPunch.orgSep 23 10:56
scientesthere is no work in the US and hasn't been for my whole lifeSep 23 10:57
scientesthere is just jobs in government, and other jobs in governmentSep 23 10:57
scientesand then another strike at the hospitalSep 23 10:57
techrights-news"reporting on the downhill turn of U.S. life expectancy isΒ fertile ground for the emergence of press bias" β˜› | Source: Counter PunchSep 23 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Press Coverage of Declining US Life Expectancy Evades the Truth - CounterPunch.orgSep 23 10:58
scientesmaybe it is because the sooner you die the less you cost?Sep 23 10:58
techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▇▄▅▅▃▆▇▆▄▂▁▃▂▅▃▃▄▄▆▂▄▄▅▄▅▅▄▅▅▅▇▁ avg(k/sec) 23.63 β–•  IPFS upstream: β–β–β–β–‚β–β–„β–β–†β–β–β–‚β–β–ˆβ–ˆβ–β–β–β–‚β–β–β–β–β–β–β–β–β–β–β–β–β–β– avg(k/sec) 17.73β–• swarm size (avg): 134.06  βŸ²Sep 23 10:59
schestowitz[TR]they want you to die when you stop workingSep 23 11:03
schestowitz[TR]because people high up in the system cannot use you anymoreSep 23 11:03
schestowitz[TR]you become "burden"Sep 23 11:03
schestowitz[TR]pension age risesSep 23 11:03
schestowitz[TR]while people die youngerSep 23 11:03
schestowitz[TR]so the surplus from exploiting the labour pool increasesSep 23 11:03
schestowitz[TR]and fattens the p;hat cats fasterSep 23 11:03
schestowitz[TR]so they can show off to their friends about their "wealth" and "success"Sep 23 11:03
techrights-news"We lived in Eritrea from 2006 to 2021 and saw first hand the rapid rate of water conservation" β˜› | Source: Counter PunchSep 23 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Preventing Climate Disaster in Africa: Eritrea Leads the Way - CounterPunch.orgSep 23 11:04
techrights-newsNixon’s Famous Price Freeze Did Stop Inflation β˜› | Source: Counter PunchSep 23 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nixon’s Famous Price Freeze Did Stop Inflation - CounterPunch.orgSep 23 11:04
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techrights-news"After a copyright blunder led to a major boost for the horror genre" β˜› | Source: Torrent FreakSep 23 11:13
techrights-news"Nearly a quarter of all U.S. households believe that piracy is justified" β˜› | Source: Torrent FreakSep 23 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTubers Lose Brains Over Night of The Living Dead Copyright Claims * TorrentFreakSep 23 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Movie & Music Piracy Acceptable to a Growing Number of U.S. Households * TorrentFreakSep 23 11:13
techrights-news"inflation coverage" β˜› | Source: FAIRSep 23 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 'We've Incentivized Corporations to Go After This Price-Gouging Strategy' - FAIRSep 23 11:14
techrights-news"In 2019, the Supreme Court of the United States resolved a long-running lawsuit over asset forfeiture." β˜› | Source: TechdirtSep 23 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ohio Supreme Court Says There’s Nothing Wrong With Cops Seizing A $31,000 Truck Over An $850 Criminal Offense | TechdirtSep 23 11:15
techrights-newsJournalism Competition and Preservation Act (JCPA) is AGAINST journalism and against the Web β˜› | Source: TechdirtSep 23 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Klobuchar’s Link Tax Is Back… And Somehow Even Worse? Helps Trumpist Grifters Get Free Money & No Moderation From Google | TechdirtSep 23 11:15
techrights-newsIran shutters mobile networks, Instagram, WhatsApp amid protests - The Record by Recorded Future βš“ δ·‰ Source: The Record | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Iran shutters mobile networks, Instagram, WhatsApp amid protests - The Record by Recorded FutureSep 23 11:16
techrights-news"As protests continue over the death of a woman in police custody in Iran, access to Instagram and WhatsApp has been blocked." 23 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Iran Shuts Down WhatsApp And Instagram As Protests SpreadSep 23 11:17
techrights-newsMozilla urges action to unpick platform browser lock-insβš“ δ·‰ Source: TechCrunch | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla urges action to unpick platform browser lock-ins β€’ TechCrunchSep 23 11:18
techrights-newsItsFOSS helps Microsoft propaganda. Appalling. Anti-Linux. see 23 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Systemd is Now Available in WSLSep 23 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Official Ubuntu Blog Has Just Promoted Microsoft Windows+Systemd | TechrightsSep 23 11:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(β„Ή) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 23 11:20
techrights-newsMicrosofters deflecing the blame, as usual 23 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft Exchange servers hacked via OAuth apps for phishingSep 23 11:21
techrights-newsPython does not value backward compatibility. Good reason to avoid Python. 23 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Arch Linux - News: Removing python2 from the repositoriesSep 23 11:21
techrights-newsThis week we can see which "FOSS" or "Linux" sites are 'fakes'. They help Microsoft ATTACK GNU/Linux by boosting "WSL" (Windows).Sep 23 11:22
techrights-newsNow OPENLY and OFFICIALLY taking corporate money 23 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reminder: The Phoronix Premium Autumn Sale Is On - PhoronixSep 23 11:23
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Mozilla Lobbying and Firefox 105 on POWER ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” Mozilla Lobbying and Firefox 105 on POWERSep 23 11:40
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” today's leftoversSep 23 11:40
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Free Software: PowerDNS Recursor, Kubernetes, and More ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” Free Software: PowerDNS Recursor, Kubernetes, and MoreSep 23 11:40
techrights-newsLinks 23/09/2022: EuroBSDcon 2022 Ahead, PowerDNS Recursor 4.5.11, 4.6.4 and 4.7.3 Out | Techrights βš“ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Links 23/09/2022: EuroBSDcon 2022 Ahead, PowerDNS Recursor 4.5.11, 4.6.4 and 4.7.3 Out | TechrightsSep 23 11:42
MinceR23 050554 < DaemonFC> Did they implement JPEG wrong just to spite the user, like they did for MP3?Sep 23 11:44
MinceRmaybe it's just their usual incompetenceSep 23 11:44
MinceR"what could possibly go wrong if the user short-circuits the antenna by holding the device? derp, i dunno."Sep 23 11:44
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techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▇▂▄▅▅▇▆▇▇▅▁▆▂▆▄▁▅▅▅▅▄▆▄▅▆▃▅▆▄▄▁▁▃▁ avg(k/sec) 22.46 β–•  IPFS upstream: β–β–β–β–ˆβ–β–‚β–‚β–β–β–‚β–‚β–β–‚β–β–ˆβ–β–β–β–β–β–β–β–β–‚β–β–β–β–β–‡β–ˆβ–ˆβ– avg(k/sec) 85.46β–• swarm size (avg): 133.30  βŸ²Sep 23 12:59
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scientes<scientes> => 0x00030eec <+916>: udf #65006 ; 0xfdeeSep 23 13:33
MinceRparse errorSep 23 13:35
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techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▁▇▄▁▆▇▅▆▅▆▇▆▆▆▃▅▅▅▅▅▇▆▆▇▂▆▇▇▅▁ avg(k/sec) 28.63 β–•  IPFS upstream: β–ˆβ–ˆβ–β–‚β–ˆβ–β–ˆβ–ˆβ–β–ˆβ–β–β–β–‚β–β–β–β–ˆβ–‚β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–β–β–β–β–β–ˆβ–β–‚β–ˆβ– avg(k/sec) 87.25β–• swarm size (avg): 132.33  βŸ²Sep 23 14:59
techrights-newsFlorida β˜› | Source: TechdirtSep 23 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Florida Officially Asks Supreme Court To Review Its Social Media Content Moderation Law | TechdirtSep 23 14:59
techrights-newsCellebrite β˜› | Source: TechdirtSep 23 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cellebrite Accidentally Leaked Thousands Of Sensitive Documents During Handover To Japanese Corporate Partner | TechdirtSep 23 15:00
techrights-newsPolice surveillance β˜› | Source: EFFSep 23 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | San Francisco’s Board of Supervisors Grants Police More Surveillance Powers | Electronic Frontier FoundationSep 23 15:00
techrights-newsAstro Pi β˜› | Source: Raspberry PiSep 23 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Astro Pi Mission Zero 2022/23 is open for young people - Raspberry PiSep 23 15:02
techrights-newsThe broadband swindle β˜› | Source: TechdirtSep 23 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cable Giant Charter Will Pay $1.1 Billion After Tech Murders Elderly Customer | TechdirtSep 23 15:03
techrights-newsMinneapolis β˜› | Source: TechdirtSep 23 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Data From The Bureau Of Prisons Indicates Bail Reform Won’t Make Americans Less Safe | TechdirtSep 23 15:06
techrights-news"Utility data has historically provided a detailed picture of what occurs within a home." β˜› | Source: EFFSep 23 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Lawsuit: SMUD and Sacramento Police Violate State Law and Utility Customers’ Privacy by Sharing Data Without a Warrant | Electronic Frontier FoundationSep 23 15:07
techrights-news"The persecution of Julian Assange is a window into the collapse of the rule of law" β˜› | Source: ScheerpostSep 23 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Chris Hedges Report: Julian Assange’s Father on Looming Extradition and Imperative of Mass Resistance – scheerpost.comSep 23 15:07
techrights-newsScrewing workers β˜› | Source: Common DreamsSep 23 15:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Opinion | Lives Are on the Line: It's Time for a National Paid Leave Policy | Vicky BadilloSep 23 15:17
techrights-newsBetter just boycott Starbucks. They will get the message only if impacted financially. β˜› | Source: The NationSep 23 15:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Unionizing Starbucks | The NationSep 23 15:19
techrights-news"92 percent of Italians say their top concern is rising energy prices." β˜› | Source: The NationSep 23 15:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Fascists, Neofascists, and Postfascists: Italy’s Unreal Election Debate | The NationSep 23 15:19
techrights-news"You Strike So You Don’t Quit" β˜› | Source: The NationSep 23 15:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | β€œYou Strike So You Don’t Quit”: Across the Country, Nurses Are Fighting Overwork | The NationSep 23 15:20
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techrights-newsThe inflation β˜› | Source: The NationSep 23 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | No, America Doesn’t Actually Need β€œSacrifice Zones” | The NationSep 23 15:22
techrights-newsListen to this whistleblower β˜› | Source: The DissenterSep 23 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Whistleblower Objects To Pentagon Purchases Of Browsing DataSep 23 15:22
techrights-newsWould he live to see it? β˜› | Source: TruthOutSep 23 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Trump’s Latest Legal Peril Threatens to Bring Down His New York EmpireSep 23 15:24
techrights-newsAnd boycott starbucks to send a message of solidarity to starbucks slaves β˜› | Source: TruthOutSep 23 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Unionized Boston Starbucks Workers Celebrate Win After 64-Day StrikeSep 23 15:24
techrights-newsChina is Capitalist β˜› | Source: Counter PunchSep 23 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China is Capitalist - CounterPunch.orgSep 23 15:26
techrights-newsTips for the bachelors degree? gemini:// 23 15:33
techrights-news"These digital or digitally-enabled cultures, like tildes, are no less real and no less important to our lives and the health of the future. They must be cared for." gemini:// 23 15:34
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techrights-news"I am not a fan of politics, never have been. I don't like reading about it, hearing about it, seeing about it. Thats because people aren't interested in genuine heartfelt discussion and idealogical compromise, theyre interested in pointing fingers, playing with scapegoats and strawmen." gemini:// 23 15:35
techrights-newsFHIOSTU Wordo: VAPID gemini:// 23 15:36
techrights-newsOpenHEYHI β˜› | Source: HackadaySep 23 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenAI Hears You Whisper | HackadaySep 23 15:37
techrights-newsBetter Scope Measurements β˜› | Source: HackadaySep 23 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Better Scope Measurements | HackadaySep 23 15:39
techrights-news"U.S. military will start spending the more than $800 billion" β˜› | Source: Common DreamsSep 23 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Opinion | War Spending Like This as the Climate Emergency Grows Is a Global Nightmare | Stan CoxSep 23 15:45
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techrights-news"While we have a definite sweet spot in our hearts for analog radio" β˜› | Source: HackadaySep 23 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Simple Internet Radio Transplant | HackadaySep 23 16:25
techrights-newsThe inflation is a residue of the long-term looting β˜› | Source: Common DreamsSep 23 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Fed Rate Hikes Won't Tackle the Corporate Profiteering Behind Inflation, Experts Tell CongressSep 23 16:27
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techrights-news"The true measure of engineering success β€” or, at least, one of them β€” is how long something remains in use." β˜› | Source: HackadaySep 23 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Love Letter To Small Design Teams, And The B-52 | HackadaySep 23 16:34
techrights-news"[Debasish Dutta] has designed a few weather stations in the past, and this, theΒ fourth version of the system" β˜› | Source: HackadaySep 23 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackaday Prize 2022: Solar Powered LoRa Weather Station For The Masses | HackadaySep 23 16:35
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techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: β–…β–†β–„β–‡β–‚β–ƒβ–ˆβ–†β–‡β–…β–‡β–ƒβ–†β–†β–„β–ƒβ–…β–†β–…β–„β–…β–β–…β–…β–ƒβ–ƒβ–…β–ƒβ–ƒβ–ƒβ–…β–†β– avg(k/sec) 26.30 β–•  IPFS upstream: β–β–β–β–ˆβ–‚β–β–‚β–β–‚β–β–β–β–β–β–β–β–β–β–β–ˆβ–β–β–β–β–β–‚β–β–β–ˆβ–‚β–β–‚β– avg(k/sec) 32.46β–• swarm size (avg): 149.63  βŸ²Sep 23 16:59
techrights-newsProprietary 23 17:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meet the New Release of ODBC Driver for BigCommerce with macOS and Linux Support | MarketScreenerSep 23 17:05
techrights-newsIt is proprietary, it is spyware, but then again so is this OS. What an awful trend... if people were to adopt it 23 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How-to install Visual Studio Code on a ChromebookSep 23 17:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(β„Ή) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 23 17:20
techrights-newsChris Titus Tech boosting Microsoft Proprietary Prison GitHub. Still a Microsofter at heart. GitHub is an attack on Git and, by extension, on Free software.Sep 23 17:27
techrights-newsChromecast with Google TV (HD) features Amlogic S805X2 CPU with AV1 video support 23 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Chromecast with Google TV (HD) features Amlogic S805X2 CPU with AV1 video support - CNX SoftwareSep 23 17:30
techrights-newsWayland still sucks. Even its principal pusher, ICBM, cannot make it work. 23 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Is Wayland really a future ofΒ desktop? – Marcin JuszkiewiczSep 23 17:32
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techrights-news"All this talk about types, objects, and systems, got me to thinking, "what would it take to create a 100% backwards-compatible pure Perl proof-of-concept for optionally typable subroutine signatures". I mean really, how hard could it be?" 23 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Perl Weekly Challenge | AWNCORP []Sep 23 17:32
techuserthere is no futureSep 23 17:33
techrights-newsChris Titus: "You are Using GitHub WRONG!" Reality: You are using GitHub, WHICH IS WRONG!Sep 23 17:33
schestowitz[TR]techuser: there isSep 23 17:34
schestowitz[TR]maybe you read the wrong forumSep 23 17:34
schestowitz[TR]or speak to the wrong peopleSep 23 17:34
techuserGitHub is using youSep 23 17:34
schestowitz[TR]yeahSep 23 17:34
techuserthings will only get worse indefinitelySep 23 17:34
schestowitz[TR]but it will shrink in relative shareSep 23 17:34
schestowitz[TR]over timeSep 23 17:34
techuseruntil society self-destructsSep 23 17:34
schestowitz[TR]maybe for ukraine in the coming yearSep 23 17:34
techusermaybe not completelySep 23 17:34
schestowitz[TR]we have a chanceSep 23 17:35
schestowitz[TR]if people stop having kids or have a lot fewerSep 23 17:35
schestowitz[TR]and tven then we need to wait 1-2 generations for rebalancingSep 23 17:35
schestowitz[TR]maybe 3 generationsSep 23 17:35
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techrights-newsThe END is near for the Steam Deck... reservation queue. (Plus other Steam Deck news) - Invidious βš“ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The END is near for the Steam Deck... reservation queue. (Plus other Steam Deck news) - InvidiousSep 23 17:41
schestowitz[TR]price of energy and food = humans competiting for scarcer resourcesSep 23 17:42
schestowitz[TR]and currencies deflatedSep 23 17:42
schestowitz[TR]uk pound has just collapsedSep 23 17:42
schestowitz[TR]due to the banksterSep 23 17:42
schestowitz[TR]and policies that favour the rich againSep 23 17:42
schestowitz[TR]they have all the lobbyistsSep 23 17:42
techrights-news69: EVGA Says No More To Nvidia - A New Player Enters The GPU Market - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital βš“ δ·‰ Source: Tux Digital | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-69: EVGA Says No More To Nvidia & A New Player Enters The GPU Market - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigitalSep 23 17:43
techrights-news"Alex is replacing his Chromecast and Google Nest Mini with an open-source solution, and why we’re all getting a little hyped about Matter." 23 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Solving Whole Home Audio | Jupiter BroadcastingSep 23 17:44
techrights-newsCan reflections in eyeglasses actually leak info from Zoom calls? Here's a study into it 23 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Lens reflections may betray your secrets in Zoom video calls β€’ The RegisterSep 23 17:47
techrights-newsPrivate Eye: On the Limits of Textual Screen Peeking via Eyeglass Reflections in Video Conferencing βš“ δ·‰ Source: arXiv | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [2205.03971] Private Eye: On the Limits of Textual Screen Peeking via Eyeglass Reflections in Video ConferencingSep 23 17:47
schestowitz[TR]techuser: hand in there, be among the survivors. 15 years ago they said gnu/linuix was doomed due to novell, microsoft, patentsSep 23 17:48
schestowitz[TR]but it has grrrown a lot sinceSep 23 17:48
schestowitz[TR]yesterday at work someone called our support lineSep 23 17:48
schestowitz[TR]not for tech supportSep 23 17:48
schestowitz[TR]but someone suicidalSep 23 17:48
schestowitz[TR] a colleague picked up the callSep 23 17:48
schestowitz[TR]that was USSep 23 17:49
schestowitz[TR]lots of youths there is hopelessSep 23 17:49
schestowitz[TR]I read that tiktok is creating this sentimentSep 23 17:49
schestowitz[TR]maybe that's china playing psy-ops on rival nations, who knows...Sep 23 17:49
techrights-newsKubernetes 101 for developers: Names, ports, YAML files, and more | Red Hat Developer βš“ 23 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Kubernetes 101 for developers: Names, ports, YAML files, and more | Red Hat DeveloperSep 23 17:50
techrights-newsQt for Android Automotive 6.3.2 is released βš“ δ·‰ Source: Qt | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Qt for Android Automotive 6.3.2 is releasedSep 23 17:51
techrights-newsTop 5 Best Call forwarding Apps for Android Devices in 2022 23 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Top 5 Best Call forwarding Apps for Android Devices in 2022Sep 23 17:53
techrights-newsGNU/Linux bloggers who wish to promote GNU/Linux to Windows users should introduce them to VirtualBox, NOT WSL!!! WSL is actively and intentionally attacking GNU/Linux.Sep 23 17:55
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” today's howtosSep 23 17:56
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): PeerTube 4.3 Free Video Platform Is Out with New Functionalities ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” PeerTube 4.3 Free Video Platform Is Out with New FunctionalitiesSep 23 17:56
techrights-news"As promised in the previous edition of FOSS Weekly, we have created a crossword for you. This one is focused on various desktop environments and window managers." 23 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | FOSS Weekly #22.35: Linux Crossword, EuroLinux, GNOME 43, Files and DirectoriesSep 23 17:56
techrights-newsFedora Community Blog: CPE Weekly Update – Week 38 2022 23 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | CPE Weekly Update - Week 38 2022 – Fedora Community BlogSep 23 17:58
techrights-newsPipelines for cloud-native network functions (CNFs) Part 2: Pipelines for lifecycle management βš“ δ·‰ Source: Red Hat Official | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Pipelines for cloud-native network functions (CNFs) Part 2: Pipelines for lifecycle managementSep 23 17:58
techrights-newsICBM shilling clown computing as RoI... yeah, Africans selling their own to slavery was good "RoI" too 23 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 4 questions IT leaders should ask before investing in new technologies | The Enterprisers ProjectSep 23 17:59
techrights-news600: Use NIR backend by default (!18753) Β· Merge requests Β· Mesa / mesa Β· GitLab βš“ 23 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | r600: Use NIR backend by default (!18753) Β· Merge requests Β· Mesa / mesa Β· GitLabSep 23 18:01
MinceR(cat) 23 18:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- 23 18:03
techrights-news[PATCH v4 00/25] RSEQ node id and virtual cpu id extensions - Mathieu Desnoyers 23 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [PATCH v4 00/25] RSEQ node id and virtual cpu id extensions - Mathieu DesnoyersSep 23 18:08
techrights-news"It should be the last drm-misc-next PR for 6.1" 23 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [PULL] drm-misc-nextSep 23 18:09
techrights-newsintel/nir/rt: ray query fixes (!17396) Β· Merge requests Β· Mesa / mesa Β· GitLab βš“ 23 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | intel/nir/rt: ray query fixes (!17396) Β· Merge requests Β· Mesa / mesa Β· GitLabSep 23 18:09
techrights-newsPhoronix marketing spam: "Solidigm kindly provided the 1TB and 2TB units as review samples for testing at Phoronix. They provided two of the 1GB drives, which will be interesting for a Linux RAID follow-up benchmarking article." 23 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Solidigm P41 Plus NVMe SSD Review - PhoronixSep 23 18:10
techrights-ipfs-bot(β„Ή) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 23 18:20
techrights-news"I have built EasyOS 4.4, for final testing, and tested it on some of my small collection of computers. Unfortunately, get a black screen on one of the computers." 23 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Limine 4.1.2 black screenSep 23 18:33
techrights-news"With an abundance of hardware and software available, it has never been easier to create a working prototype. If a picture is worth a thousand words, then a prototype is worth a thousand meetings" 23 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IoT Project Lifecycle: Efficient prototyping with Snaps and Ubuntu Core [Part I] | UbuntuSep 23 18:34
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): #HowTo Fix: sudo Command Not Found Error ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” How to Fix: sudo Command Not Found ErrorSep 23 18:34
highest_cubist_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> we do this 'stupid' thing called cooking <- i think targeting the kitchen toolchain is uninteresting, just use openmcdonaldsSep 23 18:36
highest_cubist_thrillspots and pans are oldSep 23 18:36
techrights-newsLox365 extension: XLOOKUP (and more) for LibreOffice Calc 23 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Lox365 extension: XLOOKUP (and more) for LibreOffice Calc - The Document Foundation BlogSep 23 18:37
techrights-newsGoogle Analytics (GULAG malware) is illegal 23 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Press release: Use of Google Analytics for web analyticsSep 23 18:38
techrights-newsOpen Web Search 23 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Open Web Search – Promoting Europe's Independence in Web Search – Funded by the Horizon Europe ProgrammeSep 23 18:39
MinceR 23 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living created on 2022-08-15 18:04:18.108062Sep 23 18:40
techrights-news"rms has led the free software movement for 40 years. his asset is his flaw. he is stubborn. extremely stubborn. absolutely unwilling to deviate, admit fault, change, or back down." 23 18:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | jes postSep 23 18:41
techrights-newsTen challenges for Rust βš“ δ·‰ Source: ncameron | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Ten challenges for RustSep 23 18:43
highest_cubist_thrills/me has another gob of ghost pepper saunce (theres no salt but they allegedly added pepper) and cant believe how tame they made itSep 23 18:43
highest_cubist_thrillsthi isnt machismo. they really did put a "hint" of ghost pepper but most rando hot sauces are spicierSep 23 18:44
highest_cubist_thrillsand it does not say mild. this sauce is a fraudSep 23 18:44
techrights-newsPhotography for geeks βš“ δ·‰ Source: coredump | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Photography for geeksSep 23 18:44
highest_cubist_thrillspoints for no added sodium (not marketed as such) and i never get the ones that are high in salt, so this is a fair comparisonSep 23 18:45
techrights-newsWe Spoke With the Last Person Standing in the Floppy Disk Business βš“ δ·‰ Source: eyeondesign | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | We Spoke With the Last Person Standing in the Floppy Disk Business – Eye on DesignSep 23 18:45
highest_cubist_thrillsits healthy, its even tasty, the one thing it isnt is hotSep 23 18:47
techrights-newsKDE 5.26 beta, GNOME 43, and New Snap Store - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious βš“ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | KDE 5.26 beta, GNOME 43, and New Snap Store - Linux and Open Source News - InvidiousSep 23 18:51
techrights-newsHow to Build an Awesome Kubernetes Cluster using Proxmox Virtual Environment - Invidious βš“ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to Build an Awesome Kubernetes Cluster using Proxmox Virtual Environment - InvidiousSep 23 18:52
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highest_cubist_thrillsyou got truth in my advertising!Sep 23 18:53
highest_cubist_thrillsyou got advertising in my truth!Sep 23 18:53
highest_cubist_thrills/me throws it in the bin and inspects the mcnuggetsSep 23 18:54
techrights-news"Python 2 reached EOL in 2020, so Arch's devs reduced the apps that used it to the point it is now entirely removed from the distro's repos." 23 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Python 2 Is No Longer Part of the Arch Linux RepositoriesSep 23 18:54
techrights-newsPlanned obsolescence in software, too. Bad design. 23 18:55
DaemonFCOh, and she was wrong that I've never programmed anything. I learned BASIC when I was a child. It was obsolete even then, though.Sep 23 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arch Linux drops Python 2 []Sep 23 18:55
DaemonFCHowever it was very very simple to use, and it remains usable with Free implementations on modern operating systems.Sep 23 18:55
techrights-newsFedora Community Blog: Friday’s Fedora Facts: 2022-38 "286 are awaiting a reviewer ... 778 packages fail to build from source"Sep 23 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-38 – Fedora Community BlogSep 23 18:56
DaemonFCMany versions of it let you embed machine code, of course.Sep 23 18:56
DaemonFCYou only have to learn the machine's native code to the extent that you'll be using it, otherwise you can remain with BASIC.Sep 23 18:57
techrights-newsICBM acts as if its goal is to kill ALL GNU/Linux distros, including its own, except RHEL. Then sell expensive 'support'.Sep 23 18:57
highest_cubist_thrills 23 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Jump In the Line - InvidiousSep 23 18:58
DaemonFCThe Commodore works like this. Parts of Microsoft's BASIC for the Commodore are so much slower than native code that you pretty much have to either use it or accept that your application will slow down by an unacceptable amount.Sep 23 18:58
MinceRturbo pascal was better than basicSep 23 18:59
MinceRc++ is better than any pascalSep 23 18:59
DaemonFCmjg59_ should harass Piers Anthony. Sep 23 18:59
techrights-ipfs-bot β–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▄▆▂▂▅▅▇▆▄▅▃▅▅▁▄▅▇▅▆▅▂▄▃▆▅▆▆▂▆▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 24.30 β–•  IPFS upstream: β–β–‚β–ˆβ–‚β–„β–…β–β–β–‚β–ˆβ–‚β–β–β–‚β–β–β–β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–β–β–β–β–ˆβ–β–β–β–‚β–β–‚β–†β–β–‚β–ˆβ–ˆβ– avg(k/sec) 46.45β–• swarm size (avg): 144.56  βŸ²Sep 23 18:59
MinceRwho will pay him for that?Sep 23 18:59
DaemonFCThat guy has a book series full of puns.Sep 23 18:59
DaemonFCSome are bordering on homophobic, but I liked his books.Sep 23 18:59
DaemonFCEspecially the wizard, "Fair E. Nuff".Sep 23 18:59
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat and Fedora Family ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 19:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” Red Hat and Fedora FamilySep 23 19:00
schestowitz[TR]<MinceR> who will pay him for that?Sep 23 19:01
schestowitz[TR]Social JustUS Inc.Sep 23 19:01
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Videos: KDE 5.26, Steam Deck Waiting Line, Proxmox, and More ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” Videos: KDE 5.26, Steam Deck Waiting Line, Proxmox, and MoreSep 23 19:01
techrights-newsfutex2 at Linux Plumbers Conference 2022 | tony is coding βš“ δ·‰ Source: AndrΓ© Almeida | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 19:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | futex2 at Linux Plumbers Conference 2022 | tony is codingSep 23 19:03
highest_cubist_thrillsturbo pascal was better than basic <- youre doing it wrongSep 23 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillsprogram okboomer;Sep 23 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillsbeginSep 23 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillsturbo pascal was better than basicSep 23 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillsend.Sep 23 19:04
MinceRewSep 23 19:04
highest_cubist_thrillsi knowSep 23 19:05
highest_cubist_thrills/me never did pascalSep 23 19:05
highest_cubist_thrillsi tried getting into itSep 23 19:05
highest_cubist_thrillsits like the boy band of programming languages. but it has some merits, i object to it on aesthetical grounds (and this is from someone who liked basic)Sep 23 19:06
highest_cubist_thrillsbut really i just couldnt get into itSep 23 19:06
highest_cubist_thrillsif you want power, you can do better. if you want ease, you can find easier. if you want to have fun, dont use pascal.Sep 23 19:07
highest_cubist_thrillsbut if you have fun with pascal, hey, have fun.Sep 23 19:07
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Stupid Simple App to create Light & Dark Wallpapers in GNOME ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” Stupid Simple App to create Light & Dark Wallpapers in GNOMESep 23 19:07
highest_cubist_thrills/me tries to imagine someone actually enjoying it, but cant relate at allSep 23 19:07
highest_cubist_thrillsim quite sure it has merits, they just dont fit together into a package that makes much sense to meSep 23 19:08
techrights-newsZen sand garden in a suitcase doubles as MIDI controller | Arduino Blog βš“ δ·‰ Source: Arduino | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Zen sand garden in a suitcase doubles as MIDI controller | Arduino BlogSep 23 19:08
MinceRi object to both basic and pascal on aesthetical groundsSep 23 19:08
MinceRalso to cobol and rubySep 23 19:08
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Marcin 'hrw' Juszkiewicz on Wayland and AndrΓ© Almeida on futex2 ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” Marcin 'hrw' Juszkiewicz on Wayland and AndrΓ© Almeida on futex2Sep 23 19:08
highest_cubist_thrillsobject pascalSep 23 19:08
MinceRand to luaSep 23 19:08
AdmFubaryou weren't supposed to actually program in pascal, it was supposed to be used to teach good programming practices.Sep 23 19:08
MinceRobject pascal is just pascalSep 23 19:08
MinceRwell, it failed at thatSep 23 19:08
techrights-newsLisp macros are magical βš“ δ·‰ Source: Steve Kemp | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Lisp macros are magicalSep 23 19:09
highest_cubist_thrillsi know i was "i object to both basic and pascal"Sep 23 19:09
highest_cubist_thrillsobject basicSep 23 19:09
MinceRlolSep 23 19:09
highest_cubist_thrillsand to lua <- lua is probably the most relevant of these nowSep 23 19:09
techrights-newsTPF launches merch store for Perl 5 | dean [] βš“ δ·‰ Source: Perl | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TPF launches merch store for Perl 5 | dean []Sep 23 19:09
highest_cubist_thrillsthe last real basic was qb64, and i think it jumped the sharkSep 23 19:09
highest_cubist_thrillsany popular basic will always abandon its own purpose, because it invariably gets taken over by gamers who want to turn it into yet another gamebasicSep 23 19:10
highest_cubist_thrillswhat sucks about that is then you never see the potential for creating anything but games with itSep 23 19:10
highest_cubist_thrillsso if you dont want to do a game, you learn javascript instead. Sep 23 19:10
highest_cubist_thrillsso basically, candy cigarettes are a gateway to heroin overdose.Sep 23 19:10
techrights-newsConnection to Linux? ZERO! Why cover this? "Thanks to Rakoit for sending us the Arylic S50 Pro+ for today’s audio test." 23 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Review of Arylic S50 Pro+ wireless stereo pre-amplifier - CNX SoftwareSep 23 19:10
MinceRlolSep 23 19:11
XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills: I post so much in #techpol, and ye are not there %).Sep 23 19:11
highest_cubist_thrillsno, but its too bad there isnt an application basic, apart from the caveat that...Sep 23 19:11
highest_cubist_thrillsi meanSep 23 19:11
highest_cubist_thrills and ye are not there %) <- well first of all, i still admire your politics (or respect them anyway) and so im flattered that it matters even enough to mention itSep 23 19:11
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont think #techpol is anything but a netsplit (the concept is fine, the implementation is buggy) but my objections are entirely self-servingSep 23 19:12
highest_cubist_thrillsin fact, if i thought about what i REALLY want, i should just cheer on the netsplit.Sep 23 19:12
highest_cubist_thrills/me fiddles while rome burnsSep 23 19:12
XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills: It has a lot of flamewar stuff going on.Sep 23 19:12
highest_cubist_thrillsyeah but now youve safely contained it.Sep 23 19:13
highest_cubist_thrillslet me know when starstreak starts chatting there, shes my favouriteSep 23 19:13
highest_cubist_thrillsuntil then my heart belongs only to mincerSep 23 19:13
highest_cubist_thrills apart from the caveat that... <- what i mean is, i liked basic enough to use mostly that for a quarter of a centurySep 23 19:14
highest_cubist_thrillswith all its limitationsSep 23 19:14
techrights-newsProprietary spam/puff piece disguised as journalism 23 19:14
MinceRno, your heart belongs to youSep 23 19:14
MinceRyou need itSep 23 19:14
MinceRit circulates blood in your bodySep 23 19:14
MinceRwithout it, you would dieSep 23 19:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | D2iQ Extends Reach of Kubernetes Management Platform - Container JournalSep 23 19:14
highest_cubist_thrillsi most certainly explored (dozens of) derivatives, new features and ideasSep 23 19:15
highest_cubist_thrillsbasic never adds the necessary ("necessary") data types, and when it does it adds them in a way i can only describe as sadisticSep 23 19:15
highest_cubist_thrillsthe closest youll ever get to a basic that has modern features that are WELL INTEGRATED is python 2Sep 23 19:15
techrights-newsMicrosoft moles in Linux kernel, destroying POSIX 23 19:15
highest_cubist_thrillsand thats why when i finally left basic behind, it was for python 2Sep 23 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [PATCH 0/2] fs/ntfs3: Add option "nocase" and refactoring - Konstantin KomarovSep 23 19:15
highest_cubist_thrillspython 2 is not maintained, as they beam from billboards in neon lightingSep 23 19:16
highest_cubist_thrillson behalf of google and microsoftSep 23 19:16
highest_cubist_thrillsbut pypy 2 IS.Sep 23 19:16
highest_cubist_thrills its all the python 2 anyone needs-- most would say even more than that.Sep 23 19:16
DaemonFCWasn't there a fork of Python 2?Sep 23 19:16
MinceRlisp is better anywaySep 23 19:16
highest_cubist_thrillspython 3 is not a language, its a webapi like rustSep 23 19:16
MinceRit's a pity i was not taught to program using SICPSep 23 19:17
highest_cubist_thrillsraku is probably stable, but perl 7, mark my words, will be like rust and python 3 this waySep 23 19:17
highest_cubist_thrillsthe only problem with stuff like sicpSep 23 19:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Mabox September 2022 ISO refresh ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” Mabox September 2022 ISO refreshSep 23 19:17
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean its not, for those who pick it up themselves.Sep 23 19:17
techrights-newsValve’s Lawrence Yang and Pierre-Loup Griffais’ Interview with Japanese Media: "We don’t consider the Nintendo Switch to be a competitor" - Boiling Steam βš“ δ·‰ Source: Boiling SteamSep 23 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Valve's Lawrence Yang and Pierre-Loup Griffais' Interview with Japanese Media: "We don't consider the Nintendo Switch to be a competitor" - Boiling SteamSep 23 19:17
highest_cubist_thrillsthen its harmlessSep 23 19:17
highest_cubist_thrillsprogramming is best learned at the same time as reading and writing. of this im quite convincedSep 23 19:18
XRevan861. Python 2 has actual webapi; 2. Raku is indeed stable but not best performing; 3. Perl 7 is basically Perl 5.Sep 23 19:18
highest_cubist_thrillswoz says its impossible. pretty rediculous when theres 80s footage in canada of classrooms that prove hes full of shitSep 23 19:18
highest_cubist_thrillsPython 2 has actual webapi <- no no no no no no no Sep 23 19:18
highest_cubist_thrillsi MEANSep 23 19:18
highest_cubist_thrillsit doesnt matter that it has web interfaceSep 23 19:18
highest_cubist_thrillswhen i say "webapi"Sep 23 19:19
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean that if youre not connected to the web, rust falls apart.Sep 23 19:19
highest_cubist_thrillssure, you can use it offlineSep 23 19:19
DaemonFCMinceR, I got my $100 Prickster Bucks from the STATE OF ILL.Sep 23 19:19
highest_cubist_thrillsbut you cant develop without staying current on itSep 23 19:19
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause its too unstableSep 23 19:19
highest_cubist_thrillstheres an element of hyperboleSep 23 19:19
highest_cubist_thrillsif you take the hyperbole away, then you miss an important antifeature of rust.Sep 23 19:19
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highest_cubist_thrillspython 3 does it too, but its easier to demonstrate with rust, where its even more egregiousSep 23 19:20
XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills: Python 3 has PIP, Python 2 had PIP… there's no difference.Sep 23 19:20
highest_cubist_thrillsstability USED TO BE a featureSep 23 19:20
highest_cubist_thrillsPython 3 has PIP, Python 2 had PIP… there's no difference. <- this is like saying that steve jobs has a black turtleneck, so if bill gates dons a black turtleneck, now he is steve jobs.Sep 23 19:20
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont even know what even.Sep 23 19:20
MinceRhow did stability change in python?Sep 23 19:21
MinceRafaik basically they just added stuff every now and then, noted which version added itSep 23 19:21
highest_cubist_thrillspython 2 was stable (but not as much as it could have been)Sep 23 19:21
MinceRthen they overhauled the language with 3Sep 23 19:21
highest_cubist_thrillsthats fairSep 23 19:21
MinceRand then they resumed the aboveSep 23 19:21
highest_cubist_thrillsthen they overhauled the language with 3 <- yeah, they hauled it over a cliffSep 23 19:21
highest_cubist_thrills"overhauled"Sep 23 19:21
XRevan86MinceR: They dropped distutils, but arguably that's not really part of the language.Sep 23 19:21
MinceRthey made new-style objects the default, made print into a function, added nonlocal (which is great)Sep 23 19:21
techrights-newsMicrosoft-funded 'analyst': "If we normalize projects baiting developers with an open source license to gain traction and switching to a non-open source license to monopolize the returns on that traction, then the logical next step for investors will be skipping that first step entirely." 23 19:22
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highest_cubist_thrillsthere are long and technical diatribes talking about whats wrong with python 3 i could never compete with. but they werent my influence, i came to this first-hand (that sounds wrong)Sep 23 19:22
highest_cubist_thrillsthey only corroborated what i already knewSep 23 19:22
highest_cubist_thrillsand added to itSep 23 19:22
MinceRthe things i'm aware of have nothing to do with stability per seSep 23 19:22
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XRevan86And because it's installation, it's the safest thing to break there is.Sep 23 19:22
MinceRthe greatest issue is that van Rossum sold his soul to the redmond mafiaSep 23 19:23
XRevan86Which so far hasn't affected Python as a language.Sep 23 19:23
highest_cubist_thrills <MinceR> the things i'm aware of have nothing to do with stability per se <- while its not technically necessary, i think it helps to rely on something before you can tell how much stability it really losesSep 23 19:23
MinceRand the other issue is that python3 forces unicode in contexts where you can't really depend on unicode-compliant stringsSep 23 19:23
highest_cubist_thrillsand people who love shit changing all the time dont care, so they always say "its fine imo"Sep 23 19:23
highest_cubist_thrillsonly people who actually value stability are affected.Sep 23 19:23
DaemonFCMinceR, Well, there's opportunity costs to dealing with Python. Maybe you actually really love it and then it changes and breaks.Sep 23 19:23
MinceRbut you still haven't told me what changedSep 23 19:24
techrights-newsLLVM prioritises proprietary garbage, it's also owned, controlled, hosted by MICROSOFT PROPRIETARY PRISON 23 19:24
highest_cubist_thrillsthats why this debate will never go anywhereSep 23 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple M2 Support Added To Upstream LLVM Along With The A15, A16 - PhoronixSep 23 19:24
highest_cubist_thrillsthat one stop me from moaning about itSep 23 19:24
highest_cubist_thrillsbut you still haven't told me what changed <- wellSep 23 19:24
DaemonFCOr maybe you're like me, where you got some programming manuals at the thrift store and said "Oh joy, what luck!".Sep 23 19:24
highest_cubist_thrillsgetting back to what i valued about python 2 (for purposes of answering that question)Sep 23 19:24
DaemonFCAnd if it was C, it would have still worked, but people were dumping their Python 2 books because they don't work anymore.Sep 23 19:24
MinceRDaemonFC: i stopped using dead trees to learn proglangs ages agoSep 23 19:24
highest_cubist_thrillspython 2 was an easier language.Sep 23 19:24
highest_cubist_thrillspython 3 deprecated so many things that were simpleSep 23 19:24
highest_cubist_thrillsnot a few things!Sep 23 19:24
highest_cubist_thrillsmore like loads of very simple things.Sep 23 19:24
techrights-news"For example, we are working with Google to run Steam on Chrome OS. A prototype version of the software has already been released." 23 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Valve's Lawrence Yang and Pierre-Loup Griffais' Interview with Japanese Media: "We don't consider the Nintendo Switch to be a competitor" - Boiling SteamSep 23 19:25
highest_cubist_thrillsi know you want a list of concrete examplesSep 23 19:25
DaemonFCBy the time I learn anything, it's already deprecated.Sep 23 19:25
MinceRmy transitional period was printing out Bruce Eckel's "Thinking in C++" in a highly compressed form (something like font size 5 and many columns)Sep 23 19:25
MinceRand reading it allSep 23 19:25
highest_cubist_thrillsim not as hardcore a nerd as you. its COOL that you can list features that waySep 23 19:25
highest_cubist_thrillsbut what i will say is Sep 23 19:25
DaemonFCMy Web site declared it was HTML 3.2, but it used deprecated HTML 2.0 features where I felt they made more sense.Sep 23 19:25
highest_cubist_thrillsthings that could be done "in roughly this much text" or lessSep 23 19:25
highest_cubist_thrillshave increased in length and complexity (too often, not always) in python 3Sep 23 19:26
highest_cubist_thrillsby as much as 50% or moreSep 23 19:26
DaemonFCMaking things simple is more important than making them to the latest standards. It's not like browsers won't retain a Compatibility Mode.Sep 23 19:26
highest_cubist_thrillsthat does answer your question-- it simply doesnt provide examples.Sep 23 19:26
highest_cubist_thrillsits abstract, but its what im complaining about.Sep 23 19:26
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highest_cubist_thrillsgoogle didnt want such a simple languageSep 23 19:26
highest_cubist_thrillsi can understand thatSep 23 19:26
MinceRi guess i stopped with python3 too soon to really see these large numbers of deprecationsSep 23 19:26
MinceRor started too lateSep 23 19:26
highest_cubist_thrillswhat bothers me is teh deprecated the simple versionSep 23 19:26
highest_cubist_thrillsi had similar complaints about the css gestapoSep 23 19:27
highest_cubist_thrillswhen html4 became THE HOT NEW THINGSep 23 19:27
highest_cubist_thrillshtml was childs playSep 23 19:27
MinceRand it was an open standardSep 23 19:27
schestowitz[TR]now css does ANIMATIONSSep 23 19:27
highest_cubist_thrillsnow, finally, it can be a corporate mess of bloat and popupsSep 23 19:27
schestowitz[TR]of course MOST browsers do NOT support thatSep 23 19:27
schestowitz[TR]it also does IMAGE EDITINGSep 23 19:28
highest_cubist_thrillscss made some improvementsSep 23 19:28
MinceRhtml5 is "bend the knee to MPEG LA and Big Content"Sep 23 19:28
highest_cubist_thrillsthey could have made those to html instead of making a SECOND mandatory language Sep 23 19:28
highest_cubist_thrillson top of the firstSep 23 19:28
highest_cubist_thrillsnow there are three problemsSep 23 19:28
XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills: Python 3 makes things easy like asyncio.Sep 23 19:28
highest_cubist_thrillsxrevan86: well that doesnt help me at allSep 23 19:28
highest_cubist_thrills/me would love to fork python 2 and make it simpler and easier to maintainSep 23 19:29
XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills: It's perfect to make something simple and concurrent.Sep 23 19:29
highest_cubist_thrillslets put aside the practicality of that long enough to... somethingSep 23 19:29
highest_cubist_thrillsxrevan86: your concept of perfection may be a little more complex than anything im hoping forSep 23 19:29
XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills: Like if ye want to make an IRC bot, ye should take Python 3 if ye value your time.Sep 23 19:29
highest_cubist_thrillsany languge can be made more complexSep 23 19:29
DaemonFCmjg59_ would probably say writing Opus in ANSI C makes Jean Marc-Valin a transphobe because it is possible to compile and use it now, even on Windows 95 or OS/2 Warp, or Classic Mac OS when if he'd only written it in Rust, there would be current operating systems it either didn't work in at all (no rust compiler) or where it had lots of bizarre issues (because the port to that OS or arch of rust are extremely bad).Sep 23 19:30
XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills: Is an IRC bot that complex of a thing?Sep 23 19:30
DaemonFCI still use Windows 95 programs.Sep 23 19:30
highest_cubist_thrillsit can beSep 23 19:30
highest_cubist_thrillswhats it written inSep 23 19:30
DaemonFCOne of them has an Opus codec compiled to work on Windows 95, but I use it in Wine.Sep 23 19:30
MinceRy thoSep 23 19:30
DaemonFCBecause I'm being a hipster.Sep 23 19:30
DaemonFCGet out of my room dad! I'm using SeaMonkey and Winamp 2.95 in here!Sep 23 19:31
DaemonFCIf you open that door, you have no idea what you'll see!Sep 23 19:31
highest_cubist_thrillswhen i talk about python, i always state the reason i feel like i do. then we get into details, or start to.Sep 23 19:31
XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills: For instance, a title fetcher like TechrightsBot-tr should be concurrent or else it can get stuck on a title until timeout hits.Sep 23 19:31
DaemonFC:)Sep 23 19:31
highest_cubist_thrillsthen, the very reason i feel this way-- stated in the first place-- is thrown outSep 23 19:31
highest_cubist_thrillsand im given the reasons OTHER PEOPLE HAVE for liking it insteadSep 23 19:31
highest_cubist_thrillsim aware that people have reasons for liking python 3.Sep 23 19:31
MinceRit should have short enough timeouts for that not to happen anywaySep 23 19:31
MinceRgetting a title half an hour late isn't really helpfulSep 23 19:32
highest_cubist_thrillsits obvious, its a very popular language.Sep 23 19:32
DaemonFCmjg59_ says people should be able to use the software they want. If Opus was even written in a more modern form of C, I wouldn't be able to use it the way I want.Sep 23 19:32
highest_cubist_thrillsif you throw out the very premise of my argument thoughSep 23 19:32
highest_cubist_thrillsyoure never going to understand what i think is missing from python 3.Sep 23 19:32
DaemonFCIf it was written in Rust, bye bye BSDs and half the architectures.Sep 23 19:32
highest_cubist_thrillsyoull make an argument for the changesSep 23 19:32
highest_cubist_thrillsbut you wont actually get the answer to your question.Sep 23 19:32
MinceRa title bot shouldn't be intensive enough to be relevant for performance hacks anywaySep 23 19:32
MinceRthe ircd would kick it off long before that with Excess Flood :>Sep 23 19:33
DaemonFCSo long, Solaris. Sep 23 19:33
highest_cubist_thrillswhats missing from modern programming, imoSep 23 19:33
DaemonFCI doubt anyone is going to port Rust to OpenIndiana.Sep 23 19:33
highest_cubist_thrillsis the early yearsSep 23 19:33
DaemonFCIt doesn't even have USB 3.0Sep 23 19:33
highest_cubist_thrillsyou could probably teach python 2 to 3rd graders.Sep 23 19:33
MinceRi'd miss USB3 much more than rustSep 23 19:33
DaemonFCSo Rust creates a lot of problems for users.Sep 23 19:33
MinceRyou could teach python3 to the sameSep 23 19:33
highest_cubist_thrillsyou can teach python 3 to 3rd graders but it will be more uphillSep 23 19:33
highest_cubist_thrillsmore suveringSep 23 19:33
MinceRthe basics of the language are the sameSep 23 19:33
highest_cubist_thrillssufferingSep 23 19:33
DaemonFCWhat if I want to use Windows 95 software along with SeaMonkey on OpenIndiana Hipster?Sep 23 19:33
highest_cubist_thrillsthe basics of the language are the sameSep 23 19:33
highest_cubist_thrills <- mmmmmmmmmm... idkSep 23 19:34
DaemonFCAnd Rust interferes with using the software the way I want it?Sep 23 19:34
XRevan86MinceR: True, but what if title fetching is just one of the functions that bot serves?Sep 23 19:34
DaemonFCmjg59_ doesn't consider this.Sep 23 19:34
highest_cubist_thrillsbut that was only half of my pointSep 23 19:34
highest_cubist_thrillsyou could teach basic to first graders.Sep 23 19:34
MinceRif anything, print being a function is more consistent with the rest of the languageSep 23 19:34
XRevan86MinceR: Then even a little hold-up will make it laggy.Sep 23 19:34
MinceRXRevan86: there are many ways to handle thatSep 23 19:34
DaemonFCSecurity Theater Boot probably stops OpenIndiana from booting to begin with.Sep 23 19:34
highest_cubist_thrillsand teaching coding basics to first graders is better than making 3rd graders struggle with what used to be easierSep 23 19:34
DaemonFCSo mjg59_ would call you a transphobe for turning it off to make your choice of OS work.Sep 23 19:35
MinceR:>Sep 23 19:35
XRevan86MinceR: That aren't parallelism?Sep 23 19:35
DaemonFCYou chose wrong. Try again!Sep 23 19:35
MinceRXRevan86: spawning extra processes is parallelismSep 23 19:35
MinceRpresumably relying on poll() isn'tSep 23 19:35
XRevan86MinceR: But here's a catch: this is *harder* to do than asyncio.Sep 23 19:35
MinceRis it?Sep 23 19:36
XRevan86MinceR: Absolutely.Sep 23 19:36
highest_cubist_thrills14:10 <- this isnt possible with python Sep 23 19:36
MinceRsplitting it into separate bots is easier than asyncio though :>Sep 23 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Episode 6: Computer Languages - InvidiousSep 23 19:36
highest_cubist_thrillswith python-based logo, sureSep 23 19:36
DaemonFCmjg59_ Free Software Definition. Freedom 0: The Freedom to run any program Microsoft signs. Freedom 1: A computer may not harm a human being or allow a human being to come to harm unless and until ordered by Microsoft through a dbx update.Sep 23 19:36
DaemonFCAnd so on....Sep 23 19:36
MinceRlolSep 23 19:36
highest_cubist_thrills is easier than asyncio though <- mincers point actually supports what im sayingSep 23 19:37
highest_cubist_thrillssome things are easierSep 23 19:37
highest_cubist_thrillsfor beginners, making things more difficult is not a benefit usuallySep 23 19:37
highest_cubist_thrillsive also seen what happens to people who start in the middleSep 23 19:37
highest_cubist_thrillsthey make more progress at first, then hit a wall where they feel they dont understand anything thats going onSep 23 19:37
highest_cubist_thrillssome make it past the wall, others give up foreverSep 23 19:37
highest_cubist_thrillsyou can fix this i think, by going back to the foundations of codingSep 23 19:38
XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills: For beginners there is no difference.Sep 23 19:38
MinceRlogo can be implemented in any turing-complete languageSep 23 19:38
highest_cubist_thrillswe can argue about what the foundations are, because abstractions are useful and abstractions can be argued (misleadingly) as non-foundationalSep 23 19:38
highest_cubist_thrillsbut thats unfair because all the "new foundations" are also abstractionsSep 23 19:38
highest_cubist_thrillsso this objection is a double standardSep 23 19:38
DaemonFCDaemonFC's position on mjg59_ "Up your nose with a rubber hose, pal." "Go jump in the lake." "Go climb a tree". "Enjoy the simple things in life, such as a marriage license." "COVID will get you some other way than standing in line at the County Clerk's office." "Good evening, gentlemen. Life is short. Make your time."Sep 23 19:39
highest_cubist_thrillshighest_cubist_thrills: For beginners there is no difference. <- well, them im simply going to say youre wrong.Sep 23 19:39
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause you are.Sep 23 19:39
highest_cubist_thrillsthe evidence, the results, are differentSep 23 19:39
highest_cubist_thrillsand you say theres no difference.Sep 23 19:39
highest_cubist_thrillsim sure youre 100% in theory and you can prove it tooSep 23 19:39
highest_cubist_thrillsits just not reality.Sep 23 19:39
XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills: Provide an example of a lesson for a beginner that would be harder in Python 3.Sep 23 19:40
highest_cubist_thrillsthats the wrong question, and ill explain why.Sep 23 19:40
highest_cubist_thrills"a lesson" wont do anything.Sep 23 19:40
highest_cubist_thrillsand it misses the point.Sep 23 19:40
highest_cubist_thrillstry five lessons.Sep 23 19:40
highest_cubist_thrillsfive lessons in python 3, or why not 15, Sep 23 19:41
highest_cubist_thrillsare going to be more of a struggle in python 3Sep 23 19:41
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause youre going to start hitting tedious shit fastSep 23 19:41
MinceRwhat tedious shit?Sep 23 19:41
highest_cubist_thrills/me didnt have enough coffee for thisSep 23 19:42
highest_cubist_thrills/me thinksSep 23 19:42
MinceR"WHO GOES THERE?! ...Hmm, too much coffee this morning."Sep 23 19:42
highest_cubist_thrillsive used python 3Sep 23 19:43
highest_cubist_thrillsnot in the past year or two, except for a momentSep 23 19:43
highest_cubist_thrillsive revised a 2000-line program to work in python 3Sep 23 19:43
highest_cubist_thrillswhich isnt SO MUCH but it was the longest program i ever wroteSep 23 19:43
XRevan86highest_cubist_thrills: Those who learn Python 3 aren't required to migrate programmes from Python 2.Sep 23 19:44
highest_cubist_thrillsthat was not my point at allSep 23 19:44
highest_cubist_thrillsmy point wasSep 23 19:44
MinceRor even to know about python 2Sep 23 19:44
frogboth perl and python got issues boot-strapping and/or cross-compilationSep 23 19:44
highest_cubist_thrillsi really have to think about python 3, which i rarely use, to answer thatSep 23 19:44
MinceRsadly, people are encouraged to forget that python 2 even existedSep 23 19:44
highest_cubist_thrillsalso, im familiar with python 3Sep 23 19:45
highest_cubist_thrillsjust not this year.Sep 23 19:45
highest_cubist_thrillsso i have to think back Sep 23 19:45
highest_cubist_thrillsi watch changes being made, being announcedSep 23 19:45
highest_cubist_thrillsso im not entirely in the pastSep 23 19:45
highest_cubist_thrillsbut for the purposes of this, i amSep 23 19:45
MinceRnone of the subtle stuff is likely to show up in a beginner's course eitherSep 23 19:45
frogintegrated Lua instead, which, formally, passed all bootstrapping/cross/compilation, including static linking... and tcc-toolchainSep 23 19:45
highest_cubist_thrillsand what i may be struggling with here isSep 23 19:45
MinceRor treatment of different language versionsSep 23 19:45
highest_cubist_thrillsfor a beginner, in a lessonSep 23 19:46
highest_cubist_thrills3 and 2 may not be so differentSep 23 19:46
highest_cubist_thrillsbasic and python areSep 23 19:46
frogbecause, i intend to and did remove: python, perl (and GNU buildsystem), and with Lua a script interpreter is available stillSep 23 19:46
highest_cubist_thrillsscreen 12: pset (5,5) is NOT NICE in pythonSep 23 19:46
frogincluding, integration of it, with vis-editorSep 23 19:46
MinceRand not terribly useful in basicSep 23 19:46
highest_cubist_thrillsbut for a LESSON, for beginners, Sep 23 19:46
highest_cubist_thrillsthen you miss the point of pset entirelySep 23 19:47
MinceRscreen is more of an issueSep 23 19:47
highest_cubist_thrillsbut for a lesson, for beginners, 2 and 3 are not so differentSep 23 19:47
highest_cubist_thrillsfor projects thoughSep 23 19:47
MinceRsince it assumes exclusive control over the screenSep 23 19:47
highest_cubist_thrills3 will be worseSep 23 19:47
MinceRwhich is nowadays not often given or desirableSep 23 19:47
highest_cubist_thrillssince it assumes exclusive control over the scree <- wait wait waitSep 23 19:47
highest_cubist_thrillsthats not reallySep 23 19:48
MinceRand this doesn't even depend on python2 vs python3Sep 23 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillsscreen does not assume exclusive control over the Sep 23 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillsno im talking about basic nowSep 23 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillsobviouslySep 23 19:48
MinceRscreen sets screen modeSep 23 19:48
MinceRincluding resolutionSep 23 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillsnoSep 23 19:48
MinceRand then usage of pset assumes a particular resolutionSep 23 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillsit did, in dos modeSep 23 19:48
MinceRi know it didSep 23 19:48
MinceRi used itSep 23 19:48
highest_cubist_thrillsokay, yeah, so you know what it did, not what it doesSep 23 19:49
MinceRbut it wouldn't work nicely in a windowing environmentSep 23 19:49
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highest_cubist_thrillsthis whhere facts are not on your sideSep 23 19:49
highest_cubist_thrillsthis can go faster if you let me explain very quickly what pset does in this century.Sep 23 19:49
MinceRokSep 23 19:49
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause the only difference in say pygame...Sep 23 19:49
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highest_cubist_thrillsis that pygame syntax is way more involved.Sep 23 19:50
highest_cubist_thrillsfirst, pset lets you provide coordinates and a colour attribute / palette positionSep 23 19:50
highest_cubist_thrillsin freebasic you can give actual rgb if you wantSep 23 19:50
highest_cubist_thrillsso psets not limited to attributes but i like  attributes for beginner code and other thingsSep 23 19:51
highest_cubist_thrillsmtpaint does index colours tooSep 23 19:51
highest_cubist_thrillsor rgb if you likeSep 23 19:51
highest_cubist_thrillsbut more importantly pset lets you give x,ySep 23 19:51
highest_cubist_thrillsand put simply, in dos mode this corresponds to the entire screen.Sep 23 19:51
highest_cubist_thrillsin a window environment, of courseSep 23 19:51
highest_cubist_thrillslike with dosbox or any sdl-based uiSep 23 19:51
highest_cubist_thrillsincluding qb64Sep 23 19:52
highest_cubist_thrillspset cannot address the whole screenSep 23 19:52
highest_cubist_thrills5,5 is relative to the 0,0 in the window, obviouslySep 23 19:52
MinceRand how does your program how big the window is?Sep 23 19:52
MinceRs/how/know how/Sep 23 19:52
highest_cubist_thrillsso pset works like any other coordinate based graphics in any modern languageSep 23 19:52
highest_cubist_thrills and how does your program how big the window is? <- because languages that use sdl can set the size of the windowSep 23 19:53
MinceRcoordinate-based graphics isn't done as much as it used toSep 23 19:53
MinceRand what does "screen 12" do?Sep 23 19:53
highest_cubist_thrills coordinate-based graphics isn't done as much as it used to <- i mean html has canvasSep 23 19:53
highest_cubist_thrillssdl is coordinate basedSep 23 19:53
highest_cubist_thrillsi really hink youre asking me to make my argument in an alternative universe that neither of us actually lives inSep 23 19:53
highest_cubist_thrillshow does lisp do graphics?Sep 23 19:54
highest_cubist_thrills(this is an absurd question, but the circumstances are absurd)Sep 23 19:54
MinceRmy point is that this looks very much like an approach to graphics that isn't really done all that much anymoreSep 23 19:54
highest_cubist_thrillsi think youre wrong tooSep 23 19:54
MinceRlisp does graphics the way the library you're using does itSep 23 19:54
highest_cubist_thrillscoordinates are not passeSep 23 19:54
MinceRthey're not passe, but we rarely build UIs in terms of "put a pixel on these coordinates"Sep 23 19:54
highest_cubist_thrillsi know there are grid layoutsSep 23 19:54
highest_cubist_thrillsokaySep 23 19:55
highest_cubist_thrillsso inkscape uses them.Sep 23 19:55
highest_cubist_thrillsgimp uses them.Sep 23 19:55
highest_cubist_thrillshtml canvas uses them.Sep 23 19:55
MinceRinkscape places more complicated graphic primitivesSep 23 19:55
highest_cubist_thrillstablets use them.Sep 23 19:55
highest_cubist_thrillsthe mouse cursorSep 23 19:55
MinceRgimp does use them, sort ofSep 23 19:55
MinceReven gimp uses a brush, but you could set it to be a single pixelSep 23 19:55
highest_cubist_thrillsanytime you have a mouse cursor and the ability to draw, coordinates are not passeSep 23 19:55
highest_cubist_thrillscoordinates dont go away when you use sprites, or brushesSep 23 19:56
MinceRbut you don't normally use SCREEN or PSETSep 23 19:56
highest_cubist_thrillspixels do change one at a time-- in reality if not in syntaxSep 23 19:56
highest_cubist_thrillsno, those are basic commandsSep 23 19:56
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean circle isnt a single pixelSep 23 19:56
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i used pset as the simplest exampleSep 23 19:57
MinceRmaybe you'd put a canvas in a gui window, ask for its size and then draw something on itSep 23 19:57
MinceRbut even that's either doing something special, or teaching something to beginnersSep 23 19:57
highest_cubist_thrillspoint isSep 23 19:57
highest_cubist_thrillsgraphics in older languages are more trivial to learnSep 23 19:57
MinceRkind of like turtle graphicsSep 23 19:57
highest_cubist_thrillsthe syntax is something a 7-year-old can handleSep 23 19:57
MinceRindeed they areSep 23 19:57
highest_cubist_thrillsyes!Sep 23 19:57
highest_cubist_thrillslike turtle graphicsSep 23 19:57
MinceRbecause their tasks are much simplerSep 23 19:57
highest_cubist_thrillsyes!Sep 23 19:57
MinceRand the available hardware was also a lot less powerfulSep 23 19:57
highest_cubist_thrillsso what im saying isSep 23 19:58
highest_cubist_thrillsnot that more complex languages shouldnt existSep 23 19:58
highest_cubist_thrillsand the available hardware was also a lot less powerful <- this is also why we have unix pipelinesSep 23 19:58
highest_cubist_thrillswhich some people think are passe but i do notSep 23 19:58
highest_cubist_thrillstheyre incredibly flexibleSep 23 19:58
MinceRwell, i'm not an educator, so i wondered where that stuff fits in a beginner's programming courseSep 23 19:58
highest_cubist_thrillsim not saying python shouldnt existSep 23 19:58
highest_cubist_thrillsim not saying very complexSep 23 19:58
highest_cubist_thrillsi meanSep 23 19:58
highest_cubist_thrillsim not even against haskellSep 23 19:59
highest_cubist_thrillswhich is definitely less friendly than pythonSep 23 19:59
highest_cubist_thrillswhat im saying isSep 23 19:59
MinceRi consider all pure functional languages to be nothing more than intellectual masturbationSep 23 19:59
highest_cubist_thrillsweve lost the ability to EASILY teach real coding to younger peopleSep 23 19:59
DaemonFCBitcoin falling to $18,000 is only part of the story.Sep 23 19:59
highest_cubist_thrills i consider all pure functional languages to be nothing more than intellectual masturbation <- haskell has real uses, but i dont use it, so my horse in this race is largely hypotheticalSep 23 19:59
DaemonFCYou get $18,000 Biden dollars if you cash them in.Sep 23 19:59
highest_cubist_thrillsim only trying to be fair to itSep 23 19:59
DaemonFCWhich is really only about $15,000 or so compared to what the USD was worth before he took office last year.Sep 23 20:00
highest_cubist_thrillsalso it clearly values stability in a way that rust-- mocksSep 23 20:00
highest_cubist_thrillsand python falls short onSep 23 20:00
DaemonFCSo in reality, it's lost over 3/4ths of its dollar value.Sep 23 20:00
highest_cubist_thrillsand this is a trend that benefits corporations who want to control our computingSep 23 20:00
highest_cubist_thrillsbut with rust more than any other example so farSep 23 20:00
highest_cubist_thrillsi dont like seeing python go in that direction eitherSep 23 20:00
highest_cubist_thrillsmaking it about it does or it doesnt is less useful imoSep 23 20:01
highest_cubist_thrillsi worry about the trendSep 23 20:01
highest_cubist_thrillssome people dont count genocide as genocide until everyone is goneSep 23 20:01
highest_cubist_thrillsthey talk about birth rates in palestine to refute the direction things are movingSep 23 20:01
highest_cubist_thrillsthere are still jews and native americans-- was there genocide? clearlySep 23 20:02
highest_cubist_thrillsso i dont like the direction of python but it couldnt be as bad as rustSep 23 20:02
highest_cubist_thrillsbecause rust is the supreme exampleSep 23 20:02
highest_cubist_thrillssystemd does it tooSep 23 20:02
highest_cubist_thrillsinstability is a featureSep 23 20:02
highest_cubist_thrillsthe point is to tie people to the developersSep 23 20:02
highest_cubist_thrillsits lockinSep 23 20:02
highest_cubist_thrillsAH BUT YOU HAVE THE SOURCE and its FREESep 23 20:02
highest_cubist_thrillsso it CANT be lockin (bullshit)Sep 23 20:03
highest_cubist_thrillsbut if the devs break python i have no recourse but to meet their demandsSep 23 20:03
highest_cubist_thrillsbut python 2 is forkable probablySep 23 20:03
highest_cubist_thrillsnot more than gnome 2Sep 23 20:03
highest_cubist_thrillswe dont know if gnome 2 is forkableSep 23 20:03
MinceRthere's more point to forking python 2Sep 23 20:03
highest_cubist_thrillsmate is the evidence-- the jury is still outSep 23 20:03
highest_cubist_thrillsthere's more point to forking python 2 <- id appreciate that if i didnt know it was just your opinion of gnome 2Sep 23 20:04
highest_cubist_thrillsyou think gnome is less worthy than gnome 1. perhaps.Sep 23 20:04
MinceRindeedSep 23 20:04
highest_cubist_thrillsi think gnome 2 is the last version of gnome thats even possibly worth forkingSep 23 20:04
highest_cubist_thrillsand to appeal to masses thats worth considering imoSep 23 20:04
highest_cubist_thrillsmoot of course, if mate diesSep 23 20:04
highest_cubist_thrillsdo i think mate will survive?Sep 23 20:04
highest_cubist_thrillsif i knew i wouldnt say jury is still outSep 23 20:05
highest_cubist_thrillsit may be unforkableSep 23 20:05
highest_cubist_thrillsit would certainly be MORE forkable if it were simplerSep 23 20:05
highest_cubist_thrillsgnome 1 was simplerSep 23 20:05
highest_cubist_thrillsgnome 1 should be more forkableSep 23 20:05
highest_cubist_thrillsbut if only 5 people care about gnome 1, and 100 or 200 care about gnome 2Sep 23 20:05
AdmFubarbet this will get done on a social media site... 23 20:05
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highest_cubist_thrillsthen mate makes more senseSep 23 20:05
highest_cubist_thrillsit may still be unforkableSep 23 20:06
highest_cubist_thrillsthe thing about gnome is, gnome is based on the idea of you give gnome what it wantsSep 23 20:06
highest_cubist_thrillsits more trouble to provide gnome with what it wants-- it wants a lot!Sep 23 20:06
highest_cubist_thrillsso mate manages that for nowSep 23 20:06
highest_cubist_thrillsin 5 years, what will be left to give mate what it wants? thats the questionSep 23 20:06
highest_cubist_thrillscan they really keep it going, or will it become impossibleSep 23 20:06
highest_cubist_thrillsidkSep 23 20:06
highest_cubist_thrillsbut it should be easier to provide the scaffolding gnome needsSep 23 20:07
highest_cubist_thrillsgtk of course, seems relevant hereSep 23 20:07
highest_cubist_thrillsbut im no expert on gnomeSep 23 20:07
highest_cubist_thrillsif i were going to fork a gui toolkit id fork tk and harfbuzzSep 23 20:07
highest_cubist_thrillsright now tk only needs github for libffi like every other gui anythingSep 23 20:08
highest_cubist_thrillsbut im sure tk will become tainted with harfbuzz like everything else (emacs) isSep 23 20:08
highest_cubist_thrillsat that point, someone should fork tk and harfbuzzSep 23 20:08
highest_cubist_thrillsim sure tk is the most forkable gui toolkit there isSep 23 20:08
highest_cubist_thrillsand i wouldnt hate harfbuzz if it wasnt 1. github 2. esfahbod is a traitor besidesSep 23 20:08
highest_cubist_thrillslike i have nothing technical against itSep 23 20:09
MinceRwhat's wrong with Tk?Sep 23 20:09
highest_cubist_thrillsif anything, tk cant do hindi properly. Sep 23 20:09
MinceRand what's wrong with harfbuzz?Sep 23 20:09
highest_cubist_thrillsor some other languages herr sixel doesnt care aboutSep 23 20:09
MinceRi'm not herr sixelSep 23 20:09
MinceRi'm not afraid of C++Sep 23 20:09
highest_cubist_thrillseveryting that uses harfbuzz is a hostage of githubSep 23 20:09
highest_cubist_thrillsand the author of harfbuzz is a stallman backstabberSep 23 20:10
highest_cubist_thrillsand i try to boycott those as close to 100% as possibleSep 23 20:10
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i still use tor and recommend gnupgSep 23 20:10
highest_cubist_thrillsbeacuse you cant really do without gnupg afaikSep 23 20:10
highest_cubist_thrillsbut i stopped using nanoSep 23 20:10
MinceRthen harfbuzz should be forked or replacedSep 23 20:10
highest_cubist_thrillsand i got rid of ffSep 23 20:10
highest_cubist_thrills 19:10 <MinceR> then harfbuzz should be forked or replaced  19:08 <highest_cubist_thrills> at that point, someone should fork tk and harfbuzzSep 23 20:10
highest_cubist_thrillsyes, exactlySep 23 20:10
highest_cubist_thrillsand tk should use harfbuzz, but im happy to wait until harfbuzz is forked FIRSTSep 23 20:11
highest_cubist_thrillsright now its a negative when harfbuzz is added to a projectSep 23 20:11
highest_cubist_thrillsemacs did that recentlySep 23 20:11
highest_cubist_thrillsnow emacs is a hostage of microsoftSep 23 20:11
highest_cubist_thrillsmore than before Sep 23 20:11
MinceRideally, Tk would use harfbuzz optionallySep 23 20:12
MinceRit probably doesSep 23 20:12
highest_cubist_thrillsyes! optionally works tooSep 23 20:12
highest_cubist_thrillsso you can remove it with nearly zero effortSep 23 20:12
highest_cubist_thrillsit probably doe <- i doubt it reallySep 23 20:12
highest_cubist_thrillsi would proabbly know if it could. but thats no guaranteeSep 23 20:12
highest_cubist_thrillsi try to follow ALL of this stuffSep 23 20:13
highest_cubist_thrillsits not really possible. things will be missed and found out later.Sep 23 20:13
highest_cubist_thrillsi DO get useful information here sometimesSep 23 20:13
highest_cubist_thrillslike starstreak mentioned haiku is a mirror. shes not wrong.Sep 23 20:13
highest_cubist_thrillsim pretty careful but im human. she was right.Sep 23 20:13
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highest_cubist_thrillsthere would be so much less to bitch aboutSep 23 20:20
highest_cubist_thrillsin a world where software was still modular (for real) Sep 23 20:20
highest_cubist_thrillsand people stopped trying to get you to rewrite everything to suit "bigger" developersSep 23 20:20
highest_cubist_thrillsrather than making tools that you can rely on Sep 23 20:20
highest_cubist_thrillsadding features is okay as long as it doesnt produce bloat that makes projects unforkable and brittle.Sep 23 20:21
highest_cubist_thrillsbreaking features is... the order of the day.Sep 23 20:21
highest_cubist_thrillscompatibility pairs with lockin on non-free softwareSep 23 20:21
DaemonFCOr as mjg59_ would say tha Transphobe Kit.Sep 23 20:22
highest_cubist_thrillssure they break stuff but they have lockin so they have to make things work together slightly more. slightly.Sep 23 20:22
DaemonFCOnly a transphobe doesn't want to use GTK.Sep 23 20:22
highest_cubist_thrillswhen they take over free software they have to break more things to simulate lockinSep 23 20:22
highest_cubist_thrillsso compatibility becomes less important. slightly.Sep 23 20:22
highest_cubist_thrillsits a cliche nowSep 23 20:23
highest_cubist_thrillsbut the halloween documents really do predict ALL of thisSep 23 20:23
highest_cubist_thrills20 years oldSep 23 20:23
highest_cubist_thrillstheyve been working on it for a while.Sep 23 20:23
DaemonFC 23 20:24
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DaemonFCI used to pour this on everything at Taco Bell.Sep 23 20:25
DaemonFCI used to have them omit the red sauce and just use this inside the bean burrito instead.Sep 23 20:25
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DaemonFC"LLVM's optimizer considers undefined behavior a license to kill."Sep 23 20:58
MinceR 23 20:58
DaemonFCIt must love C then.Sep 23 20:58
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DaemonFCOr Go.Sep 23 20:59
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DaemonFCOther than having Ken Thompson's name on it, what does Go have....go-ing for it?Sep 23 20:59
MinceRnothingSep 23 20:59
MinceRit is both less capable and less established than C++Sep 23 21:00
DaemonFCHe designed all sorts of programming languages that nobody uses anymore, and so did Dennis Ritchie.Sep 23 21:00
MinceRthe same applies to rustSep 23 21:00
DaemonFCC has been the sticky language. Everyone says they want rid of it, nobody really does.Sep 23 21:00
DaemonFCSome of what makes C sticky is that there's so much software written in C that trying to replace all of it like mjg59_ suggests would cost trillions of dollars at this point.Sep 23 21:01
DaemonFCSo it's here. It will be here after Rust falls out of favor.Sep 23 21:01
MinceRand it will still have a standard, and it will still have several free implementationsSep 23 21:01
DaemonFCPeople who bring in Rust and create bastard Rust and C projects will not be able to salvage what they did in Rust.Sep 23 21:02
MinceRrust has neitherSep 23 21:02
DaemonFCThe only thing Rust will bring to Linux is a substantial loss of dollar value.Sep 23 21:02
MinceRLinux is already dying, infecting it with rust will only make it worse and die fasterSep 23 21:03
highest_cubist_thrills<MinceR> Linux is already dying, infecting it with rust will only make it worse and die faster <- i have mixed feelings about thisSep 23 21:03
highest_cubist_thrillsi should cheer on the destruction but it will only make rust stronger, so im technically against itSep 23 21:04
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starstreak<MinceR> it is both less capable and less established than C++Sep 23 21:13
starstreakC++ is garbage, C is all you needSep 23 21:13
highest_cubist_thrillsC++ is garbage, C is all you need <- tries to guess where golang fits hereSep 23 21:14
highest_cubist_thrills :>Sep 23 21:14
starstreakpeople might not like Go but C is superior to almost every language Sep 23 21:14
highest_cubist_thrillsfair enoughSep 23 21:15
starstreakC++ is garbage because its object oriented Sep 23 21:15
highest_cubist_thrillsahhhhhhhhhhSep 23 21:15
highest_cubist_thrillsyou dont like oop?Sep 23 21:15
starstreak 23 21:16
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starstreakoop is trashSep 23 21:16
highest_cubist_thrillsi was never a fanSep 23 21:16
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highest_cubist_thrillsbut you use python!Sep 23 21:16
starstreaki dont use pythonSep 23 21:16
highest_cubist_thrillsyeah, i love python for finally making oop not a cult.Sep 23 21:17
highest_cubist_thrillsi mean they made python a cult insteadSep 23 21:17
highest_cubist_thrillsbut NOT oop, soSep 23 21:17
highest_cubist_thrills/me weighs handsSep 23 21:17
highest_cubist_thrillsalmost worth itSep 23 21:17
starstreakis stable diffusion written in python? that might explain why it uses 5-10gb ramSep 23 21:17
highest_cubist_thrills"everything is an object" <- yeah but if they have to TELL youSep 23 21:17
highest_cubist_thrillsthey must have done something rightSep 23 21:17
highest_cubist_thrills is stable diffusion written in python? that might explain why it uses 5-10gb ram <- lolSep 23 21:17
highest_cubist_thrillsyou know hwy it doesSep 23 21:18
MinceR23 221431 < highest_cubist_thrills> C++ is garbage, C is all you need <- tries to guess where golang fits hereSep 23 21:20
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MinceRin the garbageSep 23 21:20
MinceR23 221740 < highest_cubist_thrills> "everything is an object" <- yeah but if they have to TELL youSep 23 21:20
MinceRdoes not apply to C++ or python or common lispSep 23 21:20
highest_cubist_thrills/me doesnt followSep 23 21:20
MinceRwell, in some limited sense, it does apply in common lisp, but it makes little differenceSep 23 21:21
highest_cubist_thrillsit makes little difference in python too, which is a feature imoSep 23 21:21
highest_cubist_thrillsOOP, i did it againSep 23 21:21
MinceRi think there are non-objects in python, i'm not sureSep 23 21:22
starstreaki tried learning to code in C++, Java, Python, C and GolangSep 23 21:27
starstreaki like the syntax of C and Golang the mostSep 23 21:27
starstreakJava was the most ridiculousSep 23 21:27
highest_cubist_thrillsjava is what lennart would do if he wrote pythonSep 23 21:28
highest_cubist_thrillsand thats giving lennart too much credit, but its also giving java too much creditSep 23 21:28
MinceR:>Sep 23 21:31
MinceRthough apparently not being able to call methods on something doesn't make it not an object in pythonSep 23 21:31
highest_cubist_thrillsim only describing the cultSep 23 21:32
highest_cubist_thrillsim not a python guy because i dont BELIEVESep 23 21:32
MinceRi'm not a $language guy, i've used too many languages for that :>Sep 23 21:33
highest_cubist_thrillsto me its (was) just a nice languageSep 23 21:33
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MinceRi am my godSep 23 21:34
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techrights-newsDebian Edu 11.5.0 has been released 23 22:33
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techrights-newsDebian vote underway 23 22:34
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): This Week in GNOME: #62 Forty-three! ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 22:34
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): The Wine development release 7.18 is now available. ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” The Wine development release 7.18 is now available.Sep 23 22:34
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techrights-news"This builds, or at least compiles, but fails at linkage because of the second problem" 23 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Firefox 105 on POWERSep 23 22:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living created on 2022-08-15 06:18:58.751679Sep 23 22:53
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): openSUSE Tumblewee and SUSE Rancher ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tux Machines β€” openSUSE Tumblewee and SUSE RancherSep 23 23:02
techrights-newsGiant squid corpse with half-eaten tentacles stuns tourists on New Zealand beach | Live Science βš“ δ·‰ Source: Live Science | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Giant squid corpse with half-eaten tentacles stuns tourists on New Zealand beach | Live ScienceSep 23 23:06
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techrights-newsWhat causes it? Depression? Suicide? Low-quality jabs? Post-COVID-19 complications? Heat waves? 23 23:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | RemotePC Offers High Performance and Affordable Remote Access for Linux MachinesSep 23 23:09
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techrights-newsThere are reasons to be sceptical of this because C is already used widely, good developers use it, and it's not clear what developers stayed away from Linux kernel development just because Rust wasn't admissible 23 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux embracing Rust will boost robotics community - The Robot ReportSep 23 23:12
psydruid 23 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nvidia Announces Jetson Orin Nano, Updates Isaac Nova Orin Dev Kit - ExtremeTechSep 23 23:14
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techrights-news"On the whole, it was disappointing, but it was an interesting challenge to try to orient myself to the sky when only about a fifth of it is visible through random gaps in the cloud cover. " gemini:// 23 23:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(β„Ή) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini:// and so far today at gemini:// with 3-day aggregate at gemini:// 23 23:20
techrights-news"Wasn't sure what to call this style of entry, but it's mainly going to be for raving about pieces of media that I've recently enjoyed. Severance was initially suggested to me by my parents, and I was curious about the concept, but oh boy did it exceed my expectations!" gemini:// 23 23:21
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Linux On The Laptop Works So Damn Well That It’s Boring ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 23:23
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Astro Pi (Raspberry Pi) and Arduino Projects ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 23:32
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Free Software Leftovers ⇨ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// ∎Sep 23 23:38
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starstreaki use linucks btwSep 23 23:38
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schestowitz[TR]you said it before..Sep 23 23:39
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techrights-newsLinks 23/09/2022: PeerTube 4.3 and GNOME Report | Techrights βš“ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini:// 23 23:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> | I'm your worst nightmare - InvidiousSep 23 23:43
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