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MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/29/09034671e0006cc2.mp4Nov 24 00:02
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: VirtualBox 6.1 Enters Development with Linux Kernel 5.4 Support, UI Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130853 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f2ab98d0-0682-4f43-8a04-59a4966b4d9b]Nov 24 01:23
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/630870.jpgNov 24 01:37
schestowitz> When Huwei switches to Linux, Microsoft bites and scratches to get anNov 24 01:37
schestowitz> exemption to trade with them again..Nov 24 01:37
schestowitz> Nov 24 01:37
schestowitz> https://www.tehnico.com/2019/11/microsoft-has-been-licensed-to-ship.html?m=1Nov 24 01:37
schestowitzBecause Microsoft Loves Linux funerals.Nov 24 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tehnico: Microsoft granted license to trade software with HuaweiNov 24 01:37
DaemonFC[m]Oh well. Anyone stupid enough to settle for it deserves it.Nov 24 01:41
oiaohmschestowitz: exactly how else would NSA get there back doors into china if china could not buy microsoft products.Nov 24 01:43
danielp3344lolNov 24 01:43
MinceR:>Nov 24 01:46
MinceRthey could use intel cpusNov 24 01:46
schestowitznot for longNov 24 01:46
oiaohmMinceR: https://wccftech.com/amd-china-x86-supercomputer-deal/  HmmmNov 24 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wccftech.com | AMD Let China Develop x86 Chips For Supercomputers Through A Complex DealNov 24 01:49
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130854 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e062cdca-6caf-4e44-9160-1493d792d3f5]Nov 24 03:58
scientesugggh, why are 80211ac chips so rare on phones these daysNov 24 04:04
scientesits not about speed, its about the congestion in the 2.4ghz spectrumNov 24 04:04
DaemonFC[m]Could be worse. Apple disabled them on some of their phones because they wanted to be "consistent" and hide from the customer that the hardware is capable.Nov 24 04:11
DaemonFC[m]I'm involved in the lawsuit against AMD.Nov 24 04:12
DaemonFC[m]I get off probation on the 9th.Nov 24 04:17
DaemonFC[m]It hasn't been so bad. The court thought it would get slippery and I let them think that.Nov 24 04:18
DaemonFC[m]I had all of my conditions met within the second week.Nov 24 04:18
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schestowitzwowNov 24 04:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AssangeMrsNov 24 04:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/AssangeMrs )Nov 24 04:41
schestowitzas someone recently told meNov 24 04:41
schestowitzdid she get bannedNov 24 04:42
schestowitzaccount deleted?Nov 24 04:42
schestowitzwould not be the first timeNov 24 04:42
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Debian, Python and LibreOffice http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130855 [https://pleroma.site/objects/084fb068-92af-4e22-a52f-adce6d12c5a9]Nov 24 04:55
scientesAssange is now drinking the liberal cool-air?Nov 24 04:58
scientes*cool-aidNov 24 04:58
scienteshe fucking lost his mind in that embassyNov 24 04:59
scientesStill a martyr, but he lost his mindNov 24 04:59
scientesonce was a geniusNov 24 05:00
schestowitznot sure what you meanNov 24 05:00
schestowitzalthough surely he cannot function properly anymoreNov 24 05:00
scientesthere are two sexes, and they are assigned at birthNov 24 05:01
schestowitzthat is not his fault, signal deprivation, weight loss, learned helplessnessNov 24 05:01
scientes(or rather, conception)Nov 24 05:01
scientesthere are also some truly freaky people, and I have met XXY, but that is something totally differentNov 24 05:01
schestowitzare you referring to Brad/Chelsea?Nov 24 05:01
scientes<schestowitz> https://twitter.com/AssangeMrsNov 24 05:02
scientesAssange is maleNov 24 05:02
schestowitzNoNov 24 05:02
schestowitzYou are  confusedNov 24 05:02
schestowitzthat's his mom's accountNov 24 05:02
scienteshe has a penisNov 24 05:02
scientesahhhhhhhNov 24 05:02
schestowitzso you misunderstandNov 24 05:02
scientesI had no idea his parents in Australia were involvedNov 24 05:02
scientesI have never heard of them beforeNov 24 05:02
schestowitzalso his dad, the shipmansNov 24 05:02
schestowitzhis brother gabriel recently spoke about him in publicNov 24 05:03
scientesoh wowNov 24 05:03
scientessounding more like Aaron Swartz nowNov 24 05:03
schestowitzyesNov 24 05:03
schestowitzthere are similaritiesNov 24 05:03
scientesI guess when you lock people out it kinda pisses off their loved onesNov 24 05:03
schestowitzAaron's siblings publicly spoke about him as wellNov 24 05:03
scientes*upNov 24 05:03
schestowitztwo of them at leastNov 24 05:03
scientessame thing for suicidesNov 24 05:04
scienteswell, lets not go thereNov 24 05:04
scientesbut I read the book by Alexander Supertramp's sisterNov 24 05:05
scientesInto The WildNov 24 05:05
schestowitz'strategic' suicidesNov 24 05:07
schestowitzAaron stopped the case against himNov 24 05:07
schestowitzso his family won't remortgage the house to near legal costsNov 24 05:07
schestowitzand he never took the (plea) 'bargain'Nov 24 05:07
schestowitzso he died innocentNov 24 05:08
scienteshttps://lesakerfrancophone.fr/meat-generationNov 24 05:08
schestowitztragic still, he was very youngNov 24 05:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lesakerfrancophone.fr | Meat génération – Le Saker FrancophoneNov 24 05:08
scientesHe was also extremely successfulNov 24 05:08
scienteswith semantic webNov 24 05:08
schestowitzhe had momentumNov 24 05:08
schestowitzconnectionsNov 24 05:08
scienteshe could see things that so few seeNov 24 05:08
schestowitzreputationNov 24 05:08
schestowitzcould go farNov 24 05:08
scientesor at least, are allowed to seeNov 24 05:08
schestowitzwhich is why the death was so tragicNov 24 05:08
scienteshe took Lessig's assertion that code is law (why hasn't everyone figured this out yet?) and turned it into an obligationNov 24 05:09
schestowitzI think suicides are on the rise in most placesNov 24 05:09
scientesit was quite advancedNov 24 05:09
schestowitzI know they've always been high in  korea/sh etc.Nov 24 05:09
schestowitzand east EuropeNov 24 05:09
scientesit was real moralityNov 24 05:09
schestowitzbut I think Western Europe has the same epidemic nowNov 24 05:09
scientesHis girlfriend spoke at the funeralNov 24 05:10
scientesI was at it, in San FranciscoNov 24 05:10
schestowitzhopeless yought and people let off work early for 'retirement'... because nobody would hire themNov 24 05:10
scientes(well, i think there were two)Nov 24 05:10
schestowitzQuinn?Nov 24 05:10
scientesschestowitz, I just ran from bail over that sort of thing in CaliforniaNov 24 05:10
schestowitzIn recent years she did some dubious things, iircNov 24 05:11
scientesI was fired 3 years ago for refusing to go home early when I wanted the money of the hours i was scheduled forNov 24 05:11
schestowitzthe one with the two surnames vanished from the public eyeNov 24 05:11
schestowitz(she also got lots of abuse online)Nov 24 05:11
scientesand I have already given them my pound of flesh Nov 24 05:11
scientes(watch Merchant of Venice, it is excellent)Nov 24 05:12
schestowitzI heard of it, I rarely watch films thoughNov 24 05:12
scientesthey won't take two---they can instead stick a batton up their assNov 24 05:12
scientesthey are based off usery, and they are devil worshippersNov 24 05:14
scientesusuryNov 24 05:14
scientesthey just didn't appreciate that I wouldn't be taken to the abattoir without a fightNov 24 05:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1197984444600205312Nov 24 05:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RadioFreeTom: If the choice is between living under liberals in a constitutional republic under the rule of law, or getting conse… https://t.co/EW9CyuuzBsNov 24 05:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RadioFreeTom: If the choice is between living under liberals in a constitutional republic under the rule of law, or getting conse… https://t.co/EW9CyuuzBsNov 24 05:15
schestowitzscientes: life is like thisNov 24 05:16
scientes living under liberals in a constitutional republic under the rule of law" living under liberals in a constitutional republic under the rule of law"Nov 24 05:16
scientesthat is impossibleNov 24 05:16
schestowitzI recently endured some abusive managementNov 24 05:16
schestowitzall of us were bulliedNov 24 05:16
scientesglobal liberal elites do not have rule of lawNov 24 05:16
scientesonly if you accept false premisesNov 24 05:16
schestowitzwhen we united a bit and made a complaint it all stoppedNov 24 05:16
scientesand false assumptionsNov 24 05:16
scientesand refuse to question themNov 24 05:16
scientesand those false assumptions are devil worshipNov 24 05:16
scientesno, I will not have you bend me over and pound my butt-holeNov 24 05:17
scientesjust leave me in peaceNov 24 05:17
scientesthey need me more than I need themNov 24 05:18
scientesthis global system cannot function without armys of engineersNov 24 05:18
scientesI chose to work as a dishwasher there on purposeNov 24 05:19
scientesto see how the slime are treatedNov 24 05:19
scientesthey already got 1 month in jail and $600Nov 24 05:20
scientesthat is more than a pound of flesh, and they went for moreNov 24 05:20
scientes*thenNov 24 05:20
scientesjust for asking for my hours that I was scheduled forNov 24 05:20
scientesthankfully the system is highly corrupt, unlike the GULAGNov 24 05:20
scientesso it cost them moreNov 24 05:21
scientesthey also falsified the court records, pretending that I was cooperativeNov 24 05:24
scienteseven though I said a single word "yes", and had to be dragged to court in a wheel-chairNov 24 05:24
scienteswhen asked if i wanted to be releasedNov 24 05:24
scientesthis was three years agoNov 24 05:25
schestowitzhttps://www.digit.in/news/internet/google-pulls-plug-on-cloud-print-advises-users-to-use-native-printing-51154.htmlNov 24 05:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digit.in | Google pulls plug on Cloud Print, advises users to use native printing | DigitNov 24 05:30
schestowitzlolNov 24 05:30
schestowitz" native printing "Nov 24 05:30
schestowitzyou mean, PRINTING!Nov 24 05:30
schestowitzporn site shuts down, advises users to have real sexNov 24 05:31
DaemonFC[m]I think people should just beat it to porn, honestly.Nov 24 05:38
DaemonFC[m]You get on Grindr, you get STDs and freaks of nature.Nov 24 05:38
DaemonFC[m]You get in relationships, they find twisted ways to abuse you and get you in legal trouble.Nov 24 05:39
schestowitzthat dependsNov 24 05:39
schestowitzbut...Nov 24 05:39
schestowitzmost relationships will, at some point, failNov 24 05:39
schestowitzeven marriages, more so nowadaysNov 24 05:39
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, fail badly.Nov 24 05:39
schestowitzbut I guess that leads us astray from tech, I only used an analogyNov 24 05:39
DaemonFC[m]That thing with John hit the skids and then got me stuck with a criminal record. It's not a serious one, but still.Nov 24 05:40
schestowitzlike "cloud" being 'server'Nov 24 05:40
DaemonFC[m]I'm in a financial mess now.Nov 24 05:40
schestowitz"native printing"Nov 24 05:40
schestowitznow we have "cloud-native"Nov 24 05:40
schestowitzstill not native to your computer/driveNov 24 05:40
DaemonFC[m]Native PrintingNov 24 05:40
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I hated the Chromebook for a lot of reasons.Nov 24 05:40
schestowitzjusy means printingNov 24 05:40
schestowitz*justNov 24 05:40
DaemonFC[m]Not being able to plug a printer into the USB port, which it had, was one of them.Nov 24 05:41
schestowitzyou can use croûton with cups Nov 24 05:41
schestowitzthen you printing from a chromevbookNov 24 05:41
schestowitzfrom a proper distroNov 24 05:41
schestowitzworks fine, the wife does it that way sometimesNov 24 05:41
schestowitzshe never uses chrome osNov 24 05:42
schestowitzchromebooks are very cheapNov 24 05:42
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, Chrome OS fucking sucks.Nov 24 05:42
schestowitzgoogle just needs to make it easier to install proper distros on itNov 24 05:42
schestowitznot this crostini crapNov 24 05:42
schestowitzchrome os gets virtual desktop SOOn!!Nov 24 05:42
schestowitzwelcome to 1995Nov 24 05:42
schestowitzyou can drag windows to a virtual second or fourth desktopNov 24 05:43
schestowitzamazing!Nov 24 05:43
schestowitznext thing you know they might add (restore) other gnu/linux functionality already inherent in gentooNov 24 05:43
schestowitzhey, is it just me or...Nov 24 05:44
schestowitzdo computers become more retarded over time?Nov 24 05:44
schestowitzlook at appsNov 24 05:44
schestowitzI mean, wtf?Nov 24 05:44
schestowitzwe used to have things like quickenNov 24 05:44
schestowitzlots of options, menus, buttonsNov 24 05:44
schestowitznow they say, "download the apps!"Nov 24 05:44
schestowitzand it's some crap with 2 buttons and a small screenNov 24 05:44
schestowitzthen you have "Dark mode"Nov 24 05:44
schestowitzwhich basically means, second themeNov 24 05:45
schestowitzin the 90s we had dozens of built in themesNov 24 05:45
schestowitzwe saved our data to our own drivesNov 24 05:45
schestowitzthings worked OK even when the connection was downNov 24 05:45
schestowitzbut not nowNov 24 05:45
schestowitzand printing?Nov 24 05:45
schestowitzYou need "NATIVE" prtiningNov 24 05:45
schestowitzgrrrrr8....Nov 24 05:46
schestowitzmaybe they'll bring back plotters soon and dub them 2-d printingNov 24 05:46
schestowitzhttp://www.circleid.com/posts/20191123_the_early_history_of_usenet_part_iv_implementation_user_experience/Nov 24 05:46
schestowitzit's like facebookNov 24 05:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.circleid.com | The Early History of Usenet, Part IV: Implementation and User ExperienceNov 24 05:46
schestowitzexcept it works offline, tooNov 24 05:46
DaemonFC[m]Some Android apps are okay.Nov 24 05:46
schestowitzand you get to keep copiesNov 24 05:46
schestowitzand it's not censored... and... and..Nov 24 05:47
DaemonFC[m]There is still a USENET, but most ISPs removed access to it.Nov 24 05:47
DaemonFC[m]So you'll need a provider.Nov 24 05:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16562821#c8100e70f0ab013799f4002590d8e506Nov 24 05:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft loves #linux so much that it would definitely come to the funeral http://techrights.org/2019/03/12/microsoft-foxconn/Nov 24 05:48
schestowitz"That's been the pattern, yes."Nov 24 05:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft is Complaining About Android and Chrome OS (GNU/Linux) Vendor Not Paying for Microsoft Patents (Updated) | TechrightsNov 24 05:49
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I have not checked in agesNov 24 05:49
schestowitzthey should remove access to F B insteadNov 24 05:49
schestowitzseeing that's it's a nest of astroturfing and worseNov 24 05:49
schestowitzInternet 'service' 'provider'Nov 24 05:50
schestowitzthey provide YOU.... TO the spying and intel servicesNov 24 05:50
schestowitzDPI and allNov 24 05:50
DaemonFC[m]I just file share with bittorrent.Nov 24 05:51
DaemonFC[m]It's not like the hotel wifi knows who I am.Nov 24 05:51
schestowitzyou pay monthly fees to be sold and exploited by themNov 24 05:51
schestowitzLabour Party here suggests nationalising Internet connectionsNov 24 05:51
DaemonFC[m]I generate a random MAC Address every time I connect and tell it my name is guwuhg wguhuwog or something.Nov 24 05:51
schestowitzand funding the operational costs using taxes on GAFAM. I like it.Nov 24 05:51
DaemonFC[m](It's Indian.)Nov 24 05:51
schestowitzAs a public utility they might even stop selling your browsing habitsNov 24 05:52
schestowitz[05:51] <DaemonFC[m]> It's not like the hotel wifi knows who I am.Nov 24 05:52
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Comcast has this thing where you can pay them more and they'll say they aren't tracking you.Nov 24 05:52
schestowitzit may know where you are Nov 24 05:52
schestowitzand the hotel knows who's where..Nov 24 05:52
DaemonFC[m]I would suggest using a VPN instead if you're paying another $5 a month anyway.Nov 24 05:52
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: they'll sayNov 24 05:52
schestowitzand nobody enforces it, so...Nov 24 05:53
schestowitzI just separate browsing that's banal and more sensitiveNov 24 05:53
schestowitzone kind of browsing I can do from public terminalsNov 24 05:53
DaemonFC[m]Even if I do get sued, it's not like I'm not in a fuckton of trouble and have nothing.Nov 24 05:53
DaemonFC[m]So they can go in the bankruptcy too.Nov 24 05:53
schestowitzPIA got soldNov 24 05:54
schestowitzI wonder where their VPN stuff will goNov 24 05:54
schestowitzafaik, they did purge all their logsNov 24 05:54
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Get this. BP bought Thornton's, a discount gas and convenience store chain.Nov 24 05:54
schestowitzto plug a hole?Nov 24 05:55
DaemonFC[m]That way they can deliver the same gasoline to both stations, charge 15 cents more for "premium BP gas" across the street from Thornton's, and keep both sides of the market.Nov 24 05:55
schestowitzfiscal hole?Nov 24 05:55
DaemonFC[m]They spend millions on advertising to say it's better for your car or something.Nov 24 05:55
schestowitzI stopped driving, so I never  pay for gas, except for heating, which is also rareNov 24 05:56
schestowitzBig Polluter(tm)Nov 24 05:56
DaemonFC[m]The funny thing is they slip 6 cent a gallon off coupons into your Thornton's app every week.Nov 24 05:57
DaemonFC[m]So they're like 18-20 cents cheaper than themselves.Nov 24 05:57
schestowitzewww... "app"Nov 24 06:02
schestowitzthat word, implies you're almost forced to carry a spying devicesNov 24 06:03
schestowitzand cannot pay anonymously... for something simple like gasolineNov 24 06:03
schestowitz"app your arse, sir"Nov 24 06:03
schestowitzhttps://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1141065-rosewill-rsv-4310-useful-revision-to-one-of-the-best-value-4u-server-cases#post1141065Nov 24 06:08
schestowitz"Nov 24 06:08
schestowitzTypo:Nov 24 06:08
schestowitzOriginally posted by phoronix View PostNov 24 06:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rosewill RSV-4310 - Useful Revision To One Of The Best Value 4U Server Cases - Phoronix ForumsNov 24 06:08
schestowitzPresumably though this may be due in part due to steel tarrifs or other trade costs,Nov 24 06:08
schestowitz"Nov 24 06:08
schestowitzSince the baby was born phoronix has had more typosNov 24 06:08
schestowitzmaybe the wife used to helpNov 24 06:08
schestowitzmy wife noticed typos in phoronixNov 24 06:08
schestowitzand their comment count decreasedNov 24 06:08
schestowitzbecause the stories are  not big thingsNov 24 06:09
schestowitzmostly release-related blurbsNov 24 06:09
schestowitzsad to say, but another example of a child being born taking its toll on a geekNov 24 06:09
schestowitznow he  needs to feed 3 people with just that siteNov 24 06:09
schestowitzwhich is already full of malware, even the forums sectionNov 24 06:09
schestowitzspying company, msft ads...Nov 24 06:09
schestowitzcNov 24 06:10
schestowitzTypo:Nov 24 06:10
schestowitzOriginally posted by phoronix View PostNov 24 06:10
schestowitzPresumably though this may be due in part due to steel tarrifs or other trade costs,Nov 24 06:10
schestowitzoopsNov 24 06:10
schestowitzwrong paste againNov 24 06:10
schestowitzphoronix might not recover until the baby is grown up.. to a non-binary ageNov 24 06:10
schestowitzand no wonder he keeps begging for new subs/financial supportNov 24 06:10
schestowitzphoronix is the only site that covers linux hardware news, sometimes lwn does too, but not as oftenNov 24 06:11
schestowitzexample of meta/'blogspam' https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=VirtualBox-6.1-RC1-ReleasedNov 24 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VirtualBox 6.1 Close To Release With 3D Improvements, Nested Hardware Virtualization - PhoronixNov 24 06:11
schestowitzcould just link and quote the original insteadNov 24 06:11
schestowitzhttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=VirtualBox-6.1-RC1-ReleasedNov 24 06:11
schestowitznot he's experimenting with paywallNov 24 06:12
schestowitzlike Lunduke triedNov 24 06:12
schestowitzhe'll lose regular readers that wayNov 24 06:12
schestowitzwithout raising much/any moneyNov 24 06:12
schestowitzhttps://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1141128-virtualbox-6-1-close-to-release-with-3d-improvements-nested-hardware-virtualization#post1141128Nov 24 06:12
schestowitz"Nov 24 06:12
schestowitzTypo:Nov 24 06:12
schestowitzOriginally posted by phoronix View PostNov 24 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VirtualBox 6.1 Close To Release With 3D Improvements, Nested Hardware Virtualization - Phoronix ForumsNov 24 06:12
schestowitz- Support for importing a VM from the Oracle Cloud. There is also better support for exporting to the Oracle CLoud.Nov 24 06:12
schestowitz"Nov 24 06:12
schestowitzLots of typos, pressure of timeNov 24 06:12
schestowitzhttps://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1141040-btrfs-gets-a-big-improvement-for-more-robust-raid1-in-linux-5-5#post1141040Nov 24 06:15
schestowitz"I can't tell if these comments are tongue in cheek, straight forward, or if I'm just a cynical ahole. Ok, moving on."Nov 24 06:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Btrfs Gets A Big Improvement For More Robust RAID1 In Linux 5.5 - Phoronix ForumsNov 24 06:15
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Btrfs and Proactive Memory Compaction in Linux 5.5 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130856 [https://pleroma.site/objects/63c280c9-9466-4524-8050-95b0473d1e1c]Nov 24 06:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 25 Raspberry Pi Project Ideas to Put Your Pi to Some Good Use http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130857 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4ec26dc4-794a-4943-bb19-f9274c73e276]Nov 24 06:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/michaellarabel?lang=enNov 24 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | Michael Larabel (@michaellarabel) on TwitterNov 24 06:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/michaellarabel/status/1197166979137900554Nov 24 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@michaellarabel: And my last WattsUp Pro seems to have finally failed.... looking for any other working ones I may have forgotten about / lost track of.Nov 24 06:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/michaellarabel/status/1191945231324864518Nov 24 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@michaellarabel: There is now a new Linux user in training... and coming to realize I may be at less than peak efficiency for a day… https://t.co/jiZ3IwplZrNov 24 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@michaellarabel: There is now a new Linux user in training... and coming to realize I may be at less than peak efficiency for a day… https://t.co/jiZ3IwplZrNov 24 06:24
schestowitz"There is now a new Linux user in training... and coming to realize I may be at less than peak efficiency for a day or two, but do have a lot of interesting benchmarks ready for posting at least the raw data."Nov 24 06:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/michaellarabel/status/1191764548359008256Nov 24 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@michaellarabel: On second thought, fortunately brought a bag of laptops to hospital as can't stand still / unproductive while waiting.Nov 24 06:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/michaellarabel/status/1191638461910069248Nov 24 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@michaellarabel: On paternity leave for the day, back to the grind tomorrow.Nov 24 06:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/michaellarabel/status/1189290350344626176Nov 24 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@michaellarabel: Wife's in hospital but at least opportunity to benchmark the Icelake Dell XPS battery perf on Linux (working well s… https://t.co/hiCcXYQTdnNov 24 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@michaellarabel: Wife's in hospital but at least opportunity to benchmark the Icelake Dell XPS battery perf on Linux (working well s… https://t.co/hiCcXYQTdnNov 24 06:25
schestowitz"Nov 24 06:25
schestowitzWife's in hospital but at least opportunity to benchmark the Icelake Dell XPS battery perf on Linux (working well so far). Nov 24 06:26
schestowitz@PhoromaticNov 24 06:26
schestowitz makes for easy remote benchmarking of other systems, now only if dogs were capable of swapping out CPUs... long night ahead of KS embargo lift.Nov 24 06:26
schestowitz"Nov 24 06:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/michaellarabel/status/1177766349868851202Nov 24 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@michaellarabel: Benchmarking sump pump in the server room tonight.... flash flooding and not trusting my alarms to keep pace. https://t.co/Ohr8VGKhT5Nov 24 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@michaellarabel: Benchmarking sump pump in the server room tonight.... flash flooding and not trusting my alarms to keep pace. https://t.co/Ohr8VGKhT5Nov 24 06:27
schestowitz"Benchmarking sump pump in the server room tonight.... flash flooding and not trusting my alarms to keep pace."Nov 24 06:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/michaellarabel/status/1165974452426956800Nov 24 06:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@michaellarabel: The past six months in between benchmarking and everything else been building a server outpost (by definition, a "t… https://t.co/NPtHZUpfOtNov 24 06:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@michaellarabel: The past six months in between benchmarking and everything else been building a server outpost (by definition, a "t… https://t.co/NPtHZUpfOtNov 24 06:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/michaellarabel/status/1165974452426956800Nov 24 06:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GodsMma/status/1198478274000609281Nov 24 06:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GodsMma: There was enough water in the sweat Wilder knocked off Ortiz’s head it could create a rain cloud in the MGM Arena..… https://t.co/rveRRrk5n8Nov 24 06:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GodsMma: There was enough water in the sweat Wilder knocked off Ortiz’s head it could create a rain cloud in the MGM Arena..… https://t.co/rveRRrk5n8Nov 24 06:32
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schestowitzkaniini: did you read the latest "news" about Devuan?Nov 24 06:56
schestowitzkaniini: also, seems like CentOS 8 is OK, but IBM and its attitude towards various things (not the least of which Fedora) makes me wonder what distro to adopt for server; I understand you would not recommend Alpine anymore, eitherNov 24 06:57
DaemonFC[m]I don't see Fedora going away.Nov 24 07:44
kaniiniAlpine is fine :)Nov 24 07:45
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schestowitzkaniini: maybe we can build an apline vm around xmas and test techrights or/and tuxmachines on it?Nov 24 07:53
schestowitz*without turning any traffic to it, not before testing thoroughlyNov 24 07:53
schestowitz>>>> http://www.truth-out.org/feed?format=feedNov 24 08:00
schestowitz>>>>Nov 24 08:00
schestowitz>>>> QuiteRSS can parse it OK, but can the Perl code extract from it too?Nov 24 08:00
schestowitz>>>>Nov 24 08:00
schestowitz>>>> I only noticed it had resumed working last night.Nov 24 08:00
schestowitz>>> I think so.  I wasn't able to the the summaries for some reason but theyNov 24 08:00
schestowitz>>> were too short anyway so I am aiming for the first paragraph.Nov 24 08:00
schestowitz>>>Nov 24 08:00
schestowitz>>> Let me know when any of these break.  Scraping is inherently brittle.Nov 24 08:00
schestowitz>> I started getting some raspi and perl weekly exercises stuff; I assumeNov 24 08:00
schestowitz>> there's no more to it, like a Planet Perl (if such a thing even exists).Nov 24 08:00
schestowitz> Those are all I could find.  The Rasperry Pi people like to keep thingsNov 24 08:00
schestowitz> close to home so that might be all there is.  Perl is more useful thanNov 24 08:00
schestowitz> ever and still has a dedicated following.  However, the new name for theNov 24 08:00
schestowitz> new language is Raku and the top language developers moved there longNov 24 08:00
schestowitz> ago.  As for regular development, there has been agitation against perlNov 24 08:01
schestowitz> 5 for ages, presumably stirred by M$.Nov 24 08:01
schestowitzI keep adding ANY Linux feeds I can find to quiterss to avoid 'running dry'. I think it's a problem for news/blogs >in general<, exacerbated by the likes of FarceBook/Twat?Nov 24 08:01
schestowitzWish all these social control media just seld-demolished and everyone got back to blogging...Nov 24 08:01
schestowitzBut nobody controls this sort of tech 'fashion'... it'll get worse in years to come. Many now replace actual journalism with selfie-mode "speaking to my phone" for YouTube/FarceBook "live"...Nov 24 08:01
schestowitzA digital ashtray like G+...Nov 24 08:01
schestowitzNotice how many 'mainstream' news sites go offline. Less competition for Techrights, I guess, but also mote broken links for Techrights >outwards<. I hope IA survives another 1-2 decades.Nov 24 08:01
norayr>Wish all these social control media just seld-demolished and everyone got back to blogging...Nov 24 09:14
norayrI feel that so strongly, second you.Nov 24 09:14
schestowitzre:publica 2019 - Eben Moglen: Why Freedom of Thought Requires AttentionNov 24 09:14
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SKpRbvnx6g I like how he frames ‘ownership’ of ‘smart’ ‘phones’Nov 24 09:14
schestowitzhe also covers social control mediaNov 24 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-re:publica 2019 - Eben Moglen: Why Freedom of Thought Requires Attention - YouTubeNov 24 09:14
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oiaohmschestowitz: LPC2019 - Testing and Fuzzing - MC  on youtube at about the 40 min mark you have a Microsoft person talking that they need to assist with quality control of Linux because they need that for azure.Nov 24 09:36
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oiaohmschestowitz: cloud print is disallearing partly because of IPP driverless printing.Nov 24 10:49
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 24/11/2019: Linux 5.5 Coming Soon, VirtualBox 6.1 Also Close To Release http://techrights.org/2019/11/24/links-24112019-linux-5-5-coming-soon-virtualbox-6-1-also-close-to-release/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/64ec6cb5-a676-4be8-910c-20a16b769a8f]Nov 24 10:49
oiaohmschestowitz: hopefully by the end of 2020 we should have driverless scanning as well.Nov 24 10:49
oiaohmof course this means printers will be full blow IOT devices.Nov 24 10:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1198523695553241088Nov 24 11:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @IPWorld77 maybe AI can help software developers to respect patents and limit their freedom of speech?Nov 24 11:05
schestowitzdoes not make much senceNov 24 11:05
schestowitzsenseNov 24 11:05
oiaohmschestowitz: there are attempts to make AI to read collections of patents and tell you if you are breaching patents no matter how invalid they are.Nov 24 11:09
schestowitzor how bad the HEY HI isNov 24 11:10
oiaohmschestowitz: https://www.dezeen.com/2019/08/01/patent-ai-machine-products-technology/  this one get wacky.Nov 24 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dezeen.com | Patent applications filed to claim ownership of designs for a machineNov 24 11:24
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77Nov 24 12:46
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Royawayhttp://techrights.org/2019/11/24/irc-log-231119/Nov 24 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to techrights.org:80; Connection refused ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org/2019/11/24/irc-log-231119/ )Nov 24 13:15
RoyawayTestNov 24 13:16
RoyawaySomething wrongNov 24 13:16
RoyawayHmmmmNov 24 13:16
RoyawayCan anyone hop diagnose?Nov 24 13:17
RoyawayAfkNov 24 13:17
RoyawayIt worked OK about fifteen minutes agoNov 24 13:18
RoyawayTux machines running OK from same HVNov 24 13:19
RoyawayThe bots are running OKNov 24 13:19
RoyawayHttp://test.orgNov 24 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: test.org; Unknown error ( status 0 @ Http://test.org )Nov 24 13:19
RoyawayOh wellNov 24 13:19
RoyawayHttp://yahoo.com testNov 24 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YahooNov 24 13:19
RoyawayMight need to get back home \:Nov 24 13:24
Royawayhttps://www.isitdownrightnow.com/techrights.com.htmlNov 24 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.isitdownrightnow.com | Techrights.com - Is Techrights Down Right Now?Nov 24 13:25
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RoyagainSeems to be back nowNov 24 13:33
RoyagainI guess the admin fixed itNov 24 13:33
RoyagainTest http://techrights.org/irc-channel/Nov 24 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Channels | TechrightsNov 24 13:34
RoyagainQuestion:Nov 24 13:34
RoyagainDid the not go offline and back online minutes ago?Nov 24 13:34
RoyagainMincer pingNov 24 13:35
MinceRpongNov 24 13:36
RoyagainDid the not go offline?Nov 24 13:36
MinceRthe bot?Nov 24 13:36
RoyagainAt any point before I logged in?Nov 24 13:36
RoyagainTechrightsbotNov 24 13:36
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RoyagainJust wanna know is apache or the whole VM was restartedNov 24 13:37
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MinceRit did this ^Nov 24 13:37
RoyagainCheersNov 24 13:37
RoyagainSo I guess rebootNov 24 13:37
RoyagainGood that we have multiple AdkinsNov 24 13:37
RoyagainAdkinsNov 24 13:37
MinceRautocorrect? :>Nov 24 13:37
RoyagainAdkinsNov 24 13:37
RoyagainYeahNov 24 13:37
MinceRhilariousNov 24 13:37
RoyagainWtf is Adkins?Nov 24 13:38
RoyagainI typed adminnnnnnnnn right several timesNov 24 13:38
MinceRa nameNov 24 13:38
Royagainhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_AdkinsNov 24 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.m.wikipedia.org | Nigel Adkins - WikipediaNov 24 13:39
RoyagainAndroid decided this dude and others are better than what gave google all its stufNov 24 13:39
RoyagainBblNov 24 13:40
RoyagainCheers mincerNov 24 13:40
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MinceRmore like they forgot to add "admin", "admins" and "bot" into the dictionary :>Nov 24 15:02
kaniinioiaohm: my printer is already an iot deviceNov 24 15:29
kaniinischestowitz: sounds like a planNov 24 15:29
oiaohmkaniini: fun part is under the IPP driverless the USB form also makes your USB printers are IOT device.Nov 24 16:03
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schestowitzkaniini: cool :-)Nov 24 16:24
schestowitz[15:02] <MinceR> more like they forgot to add "admin", "admins" and "bot" into the dictionary :>Nov 24 16:28
schestowitzI did not realise until now it also 'corrected' botNov 24 16:29
schestowitz[13:36] <Royagain> Did the not go offline?Nov 24 16:29
schestowitzlol, I typed "bot"Nov 24 16:29
schestowitz[13:34] <Royagain> Did the not go offline and back online minutes ago?Nov 24 16:29
schestowitzlol!Nov 24 16:29
schestowitznot only did it get things wronNov 24 16:30
schestowitzit made it very misleading and harmed communications. Not is far from bot in the meaning sense.Nov 24 16:30
MinceRthat's why i always disable autocorrectNov 24 16:37
MinceR(and also autocapitalization)Nov 24 16:37
schestowitznot my computerNov 24 16:37
schestowitzandroid terminal in cycling machineNov 24 16:38
MinceR:)Nov 24 16:38
MinceRi thought it was your phoneNov 24 16:38
MinceRor somethingNov 24 16:38
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schestowitzMinceR: my what?Nov 24 17:22
schestowitzit stops working  about 10 m from the dockNov 24 17:22
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MinceR:>Nov 24 17:25
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/630709.jpgNov 24 17:49
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XRevan86> Yugabyte, the leader in open-source distributed SQL databasesNov 24 19:02
XRevan86Who are they?Nov 24 19:02
schestowitzsomeone told me they're okNov 24 19:02
schestowitzI think they're quite new on the blockNov 24 19:03
schestowitzdidn't hear about them before this yearNov 24 19:03
XRevan86I'm looking at their repo, and what I see hasn't offended me yet.Nov 24 19:03
XRevan86PostgreSQL-derived, written in C++Nov 24 19:04
XRevan86"Yugabyte Cloud QL (YCQL) - Semi-relational SQL-like API with documents/indexing support and Apache Cassandra QL roots" – have you ever wanted to query a cloud?Nov 24 19:04
XRevan86Looks like it has horizontal scaling.Nov 24 19:15
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XRevan86https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/releases/tag/5.700 oh myNov 24 21:21
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XRevan86A beta, yet so long awaited I'll take it.Nov 24 21:22
XRevan86* yet for so longNov 24 21:22
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DaemonFC[m]The gas mileage indicator on most cars is inaccurate, but it can help tell if something you did had a positive or negative effect on mileage.Nov 24 23:34
DaemonFC[m]Full synthetic motor oil has consistently improved my fuel mileage by about half a mile per gallon of gas.Nov 24 23:34
DaemonFC[m]The synthetic oil lasts twice as long too, so less waste oil that needs to have something done with it.Nov 24 23:35
DaemonFC[m]I'd say it's a win for the environment vs the old stuff.Nov 24 23:35
DaemonFC[m]Ultimately, your pocketbook too.Nov 24 23:35
DaemonFC[m]Daniel Peterson: I guess 0w30 is an odd duck.Nov 24 23:42
DaemonFC[m]They have it in bulk at some shops, but auto parts stores are more likely to make you buy it in one quart bottles.Nov 24 23:43
danielp3344hmmNov 24 23:43
DaemonFC[m]In the case of Pep Boys, a 5 qt jug of Mobil 1 is $16 on sale right now, but the 1 qt is $13. So, they have 5w30 in the jug but not the 1 qt, so you'd need to pay nearly as much for each qt as a jug to get 0w30 off the shelf.Nov 24 23:43
danielp3344I'd just run 5w30 :PNov 24 23:44
DaemonFC[m]So would I at that point.Nov 24 23:44
DaemonFC[m]But in the bulk oil in the back, you can get 0w30 at the same price as 5w30 if they change your oil for you.Nov 24 23:44
danielp3344that's not worth itNov 24 23:44
danielp3344I've already lost one vehicle that wayNov 24 23:44
DaemonFC[m]So it's actually $65 for 5 quarts of 0w30 off the shelf and another $10 for a good filter ($75).Nov 24 23:45
danielp3344Speaking of filters...Nov 24 23:45
danielp3344You know how everyone says fram filters suck?Nov 24 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Or pay them $40 after coupon to use the same stuff in the back and do it for you.Nov 24 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Not all of them do.Nov 24 23:46
DaemonFC[m]If you buy the best one, they don't, but that's the only exception.Nov 24 23:46
danielp3344That's what I just found out lolNov 24 23:46
danielp3344I decided to cut mine open when I pulled the engineNov 24 23:46
DaemonFC[m]If you tear down the Core TLE from Walmart, it's fucking terrible.Nov 24 23:46
DaemonFC[m]That's why they put it down as $2 for the filter on the invoice.Nov 24 23:46
danielp3344DaemonFC: yeah, mine still had the walmart clearance sticker on it lolNov 24 23:46
DaemonFC[m]The funny part is they stick a $2 filter on your full synthetic oil change.Nov 24 23:46
DaemonFC[m]Then people drive it for 10,000 miles!Nov 24 23:46
danielp3344But it was quite solid other than the anti drainback valve being weakNov 24 23:47
DaemonFC[m]You must specifically ask for a real filter off the shelf and pay them the difference, or else you get the Core TLE shit.Nov 24 23:47
DaemonFC[m]Well, with a bad adbv, the filter doesn't immediately provide oil to the engine on start upNov 24 23:47
DaemonFC[m]There can be more cold wear on the engine.Nov 24 23:47
danielp3344yeahNov 24 23:48
danielp3344But it was not made with cardboardNov 24 23:48
DaemonFC[m]The Core TLS has a shit filter inside that collapses internally quite often.Nov 24 23:48
danielp3344and there was wire mesh backing the filter mediaNov 24 23:48
DaemonFC[m]AND a bad adbv.Nov 24 23:48
DaemonFC[m]*TLENov 24 23:48
DaemonFC[m]And there's no way that half the filtration media of the Ford FL820S is sufficient on a 4.6 V8.Nov 24 23:49
DaemonFC[m]:)Nov 24 23:49
DaemonFC[m]Even if it doesn't somehow collapse.Nov 24 23:49
DaemonFC[m]The very worst oil filter I would suggest is the Purolator standard filter.Nov 24 23:49
danielp3344Yeah, my truck has a purolator filter as it was on sale. But my car I just got the fram one at walmartNov 24 23:49
danielp3344wait what?Nov 24 23:49
DaemonFC[m]You get easily double the filtration media of the CORE TLE FRAM and a good adbv.Nov 24 23:49
danielp3344lmaoNov 24 23:49
DaemonFC[m]The last Purolator I had was good.Nov 24 23:50
danielp3344<DaemonFC[m] "The very worst oil filter I woul"> ??Nov 24 23:50
DaemonFC[m]They put a Delco filter on it this time, which is OE.Nov 24 23:51
danielp3344delco makes good stuffNov 24 23:51
DaemonFC[m]You'll never go wrong with OE because that was what the design called for to begin with.Nov 24 23:51
danielp3344<DaemonFC[m] "You'll never go wrong with OE be"> no wayNov 24 23:51
danielp3344there are plenty of very sucky OE partsNov 24 23:51
danielp3344see GM ignition modulesNov 24 23:51
DaemonFC[m]Your engine will always run good on OE spark plugs, but Iridiums will work too and don't wear much.Nov 24 23:51
DaemonFC[m]So I didn't go OE there.Nov 24 23:51
danielp3344DaemonFC: I run copper plugsNov 24 23:52
danielp3344They're cheaper and dont melt as easilyNov 24 23:52
DaemonFC[m]I have taken coppers out.Nov 24 23:52
DaemonFC[m]Never put coppers in.Nov 24 23:52
DaemonFC[m]I used platinum on the Crown Victoria and Iridium on the Impala.Nov 24 23:52
danielp3344They're fine for DDs but dont make much sense for a race car :PNov 24 23:52
DaemonFC[m]Both ran great.Nov 24 23:52
danielp3344heat ranges are always too highNov 24 23:53
DaemonFC[m]The Iridium plugs are essentially self-cleaning.Nov 24 23:53
DaemonFC[m]They just burn the fucking carbon off before it's a problem.Nov 24 23:53
DaemonFC[m]And you can even "forget" to change them for 200,000 miles and it's not a major disaster.Nov 24 23:53
DaemonFC[m]That's why new cars tend to have them.Nov 24 23:53
danielp3344indeedNov 24 23:53
danielp3344dang that reminds me...Nov 24 23:54
DaemonFC[m]Carbon fouling on the plugs is something I got tired of with standard plugs.Nov 24 23:54
danielp3344I really should do my trucks head gasketNov 24 23:54
DaemonFC[m]So I just won't use them again.Nov 24 23:54
DaemonFC[m]You can dump your money in the gas tank with PEA and it'll get some of it off if you are too lazy to yank them. but given the short life of the plug, why bother?Nov 24 23:55
danielp3344seafoam does good on plugsNov 24 23:56
DaemonFC[m]If you put Iridium plugs in and it really does "fry your ignition coils", put better ignition coils in next time.Nov 24 23:56
danielp3344<DaemonFC[m] "If you put Iridium plugs in and "> lol never hear thatNov 24 23:56
DaemonFC[m]if it causes one to fail, it was on the way out anyway.Nov 24 23:56
danielp3344single ignition coil ftwNov 24 23:57
DaemonFC[m]I have the standard GM configuration of three of them.Nov 24 23:57
DaemonFC[m]Two plugs per coil. Nov 24 23:57
danielp3344I have a distributorNov 24 23:57
DaemonFC[m]You can replace coil packs one at a time.Nov 24 23:57
danielp3344gtgNov 24 23:58
DaemonFC[m]But you might as well just take them all off and replace all three.Nov 24 23:58
DaemonFC[m]They're like $30 each and you don't want to keep revisiting the same issue.Nov 24 23:58
DaemonFC[m]Mismatching age/type can cause the engine to do weird stuff.Nov 24 23:58
DaemonFC[m]Daniel Peterson: I convinced mom to have them put Iridium plugs in her car while they were doing something that let them combine the labor.Nov 24 23:59
DaemonFC[m]So she basically got a "tune up" for the cost of the plugs while she was there. Nov 24 23:59

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