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DaemonFC[m]Apparently the real scope of coronavirus outbreak in Iran is much worse.Feb 26 00:23
DaemonFC[m]And about 20% of the infected are dying.Feb 26 00:23
DaemonFC[m]They refuse to closw down their mosques and stuff.Feb 26 00:24
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superkuh20% of the infected are dying. -- citation neededFeb 26 02:33
aindilishey folks, I recorded a demo of some of my technology, I thought maybe I would share it here in case you good folks hadn't seen it: https://invidio.us/watch?v=0l3K__C9DkcFeb 26 03:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-invidio.us | EmacsConf 2019 - 07 - A.I. that Helps Play the Game of Your Life - Andrew J. Dougherty - InvidiousFeb 26 03:00
gde33this is funny https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-dns-over-httpsFeb 26 03:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.mozilla.org | Firefox DNS-over-HTTPS | Firefox HelpFeb 26 03:10
gde33all websites blocked by ISP's are now accessable againFeb 26 03:10
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oiaohmgde33: Question is how long.   Currently thinking my firefox only has 1 include dns over https option cloudflare.     https://mozilla.cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query  Hmm  Mozilla unique subdomain cloudflare.    So instead of every ISP having the metadata is now all collected at cloudflare  Feb 26 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mozilla.cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query )Feb 26 04:14
oiaohmgde33: also most ISP were not filtering unencrypted DNS access so you could get around their blocks by setting your own DNS to like google or someone elses.Feb 26 04:17
CrystalMathi just use OpenNIC directlyFeb 26 04:18
CrystalMaththat is, i run a private OpenNIC tier 2 DNS serverFeb 26 04:18
oiaohmThe reality is DNS over HTTPS really for end users does of browsers is not exactly helpful.Feb 26 04:21
oiaohmWhat we really need is a proper standard man in the middle proxy for local network security.   Current man in middle you basically put a own CA in browser and reencrypt all the traffic.   So disappearing the upstream certificate and CA process.Feb 26 04:23
oiaohmThat proper man in middle proxy solution could get on top of the IOT disaster.Feb 26 04:24
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DaemonFC[m]> gde33: Question is how long.   Currently thinking my firefox only has 1 include dns over https option cloudflare.     https://mozilla.cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query  Hmm  Mozilla unique subdomain cloudflare.    So instead of every ISP having the metadata is now all collected at cloudflare  Feb 26 04:45
DaemonFC[m]NextDNS toooFeb 26 04:45
DaemonFC[m]Mozilla also cratered and turned it off in the UK by default so that the government can censor bittorrent websites and say it's because of the children.Feb 26 04:46
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: think how long until a UK government approved DoH appears.Feb 26 04:50
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: that is controls by the Uk governement so they don't need warrents to get DNS information.Feb 26 04:51
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Ariadneschestowitz: i feel the debian.community person is not acting in completely good faith tbhFeb 26 05:37
Ariadnefor example, in https://debian.community/remembering-lucy-wayland/ they allude to transgender individuals driving the censorship agenda at debianFeb 26 05:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debian.community | Remembering Lucy WaylandFeb 26 05:38
Ariadneas somebody who used to be a debian developer, i know better than that :)Feb 26 05:38
tedboxdo you know who runs the site?Feb 26 05:39
tedboxI think behind it are some people who oppose the shaming of TorvaldsFeb 26 05:39
tedboxlabeling people sexistFeb 26 05:39
tedboxI still want to know if there's more to the story of Guido letting goFeb 26 05:40
tedboxoops, wrong machineFeb 26 05:40
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roysI think there's opposition to what's perceived as civil rights causes being hijacked for another, orthogonal agendaFeb 26 05:41
roysOliva has that done to him nowFeb 26 05:41
Ariadneand wellFeb 26 05:42
AriadneFor example, the public lynching of Jacob Appelbaum on allegations of sex abuse, which the Debian Project Leader discussed with a journalist, denouncing Appelbaum. Zini, Jaspert and Wiltshire's hope is that their victim will fear similar public humiliation. Note: the people who made accusations against Appelbaum withdrew them after wrecking his career.Feb 26 05:42
Ariadnethis is just laughableFeb 26 05:42
Ariadnenumber 1, they didn't withdraw those accusationsFeb 26 05:43
roysI think it's differentFeb 26 05:43
roysalthough he was gay, the angle was not that he was intolerantFeb 26 05:43
roys(which I think is what happens in Debian and FSF)Feb 26 05:43
Ariadneapplebaum is pan, actuallyFeb 26 05:43
royshe says he's "queer" about himselfFeb 26 05:43
Ariadneand the problem is that he does not respect boundariesFeb 26 05:43
Ariadnebut my problem with debian.community is that the author misrepresents key facts to fit their narrativeFeb 26 05:44
Ariadnethere's no trans people involved in debian who could force such a censorship agendaFeb 26 05:44
royswhat's a better  reference to explain these affairs?Feb 26 05:44
roysseems nobody else even talks about itFeb 26 05:44
Ariadnethey talk about it, on debian-privateFeb 26 05:45
roysDebian eliminated other developers years ago, using similar pretextsFeb 26 05:45
Ariadnewhich is a list of basically gossipFeb 26 05:45
roysit's a toxic type of listFeb 26 05:45
roysif it is secretFeb 26 05:45
roysseems like what Home Office hasFeb 26 05:45
roys a place where they mock people and can pick targetsFeb 26 05:45
roysand once they're targeted, facts might not matter or even due processFeb 26 05:45
Ariadnewell, many distributions have similar listsFeb 26 05:46
roysin techrights we never had secret comms, except with sourcesFeb 26 05:46
Ariadneyou have to have some sort of mechanism for handling "HR" issuesFeb 26 05:46
Ariadneeven alpine has oneFeb 26 05:46
roys(in which case we need  discreet discussion)Feb 26 05:46
Ariadnebut it's not like debian-privateFeb 26 05:46
roysit's notFeb 26 05:46
roysthe debian one isn't HR, I thinkFeb 26 05:47
roysBruce Perens complained about it alsoFeb 26 05:47
Ariadnethe debian one started out that wayFeb 26 05:47
Ariadnebut it's basically devolved into gossip and ventingFeb 26 05:47
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DaemonFC[m]Why do people still make xvid (MPEG 4 ASP) rips?Feb 26 06:17
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: maybe it works better with older devices?Feb 26 06:25
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gde33oiaohm: I'm not sure how my isp [ziggo] was blocking tpb after the court order but the traffic was redirected to a ziggo landing page. I could try configure a different dns and see if that works as well.Feb 26 13:15
MinceR(audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/06/a8636a457511b9a5.mp4Feb 26 13:29
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MinceR(javascript) https://sebpearce.com/bullshit/Feb 26 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sebpearce.com | New-Age Bullshit GeneratorFeb 26 16:30
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XRevan86> Although you may not realize it, you are angelic.Feb 26 16:32
XRevan86Aw, shucksFeb 26 16:32
MinceR:>Feb 26 16:33
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CrystalMathMinceR: some of this stuff looks like things i used to believe for realFeb 26 16:42
CrystalMathscaryFeb 26 16:42
MinceR:>Feb 26 16:42
CrystalMath"Science is the driver of science."Feb 26 16:43
CrystalMathand then there's this, which doesn't look real, but still technically COULD be written in things like thisFeb 26 16:43
royssounds recursive, CrystalMathFeb 26 16:57
roysare you on meth ;-) ;-)?Feb 26 16:57
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MinceRno, he's on mathFeb 26 16:58
roysDebbie does MathFeb 26 16:59
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/11/20/russian-feminist-activist-faces-porn-charges-for-running-vagina-monologues-art-group-on-social-mediaFeb 26 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEFeb 26 17:03
XRevan86A bit old, but I just found out (from https://youtu.be/mg-E7NLmIc0 ).Feb 26 17:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Полицейские-извращенцы хотят посадить художницу - YouTubeFeb 26 17:05
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: That should answer those questions you've had about porn in Russia.Feb 26 17:08
roysXRevan86: they never responded to meFeb 26 17:13
roysthey as in MeduzaFeb 26 17:13
roysI  tried several addressesFeb 26 17:13
roysafter saying they need a new English editorFeb 26 17:13
XRevan86So far my favourite detail about the the Constitution change voting in Russia is that observers will only be assigned by the Civic Chamber.Feb 26 17:14
roysand their RSS feed immediately stopped updating Feb 26 17:14
roysit  looks like they still publish in EnglishFeb 26 17:14
roysbut the RSS feed is frozen in the pastFeb 26 17:14
XRevan86roys: They do, albeit that article is a wee bit old.Feb 26 17:14
roysIOW, I've lost track of Russian politicsFeb 26 17:14
roysThe site used to help me a lotFeb 26 17:14
XRevan863 weeks out of dateFeb 26 17:15
roysyes, I noticed the date in the URL and I links to it at the timeFeb 26 17:15
roysI link to most of their stuff, I think they're genuinely independentFeb 26 17:15
roysXRevan86: maybe more people should contact themFeb 26 17:15
roysthey did not even reply to mailFeb 26 17:15
XRevan86I need someone with SCM…Feb 26 17:17
XRevan86(not Source Code Management)Feb 26 17:17
XRevan86roys: Have you tried casting them on Twatter? I know you've written about it, but I don't remember if you casted @meduza_enFeb 26 17:19
XRevan86roys: Oh heck, I'll write them on VK.Feb 26 17:22
scientes"Twatter" XRevan86 :)Feb 26 17:22
scientesMinceR, nice bullshit generatorFeb 26 17:25
roysformerly known as Trump speech generatorFeb 26 17:25
scientesXRevan86, all I see is all the colorful twats, and understand none of the wordsFeb 26 17:25
scientesmaybe its because she is a cuntFeb 26 17:25
scientesheheFeb 26 17:26
*XRevan86 wrote something. Sent.Feb 26 17:26
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XRevan86scientes: Who's "she"?Feb 26 17:26
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg-E7NLmIc0Feb 26 17:26
scientesthis video you postedFeb 26 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Полицейские-извращенцы хотят посадить художницу - YouTubeFeb 26 17:26
XRevan86scientes: ohFeb 26 17:26
*XRevan86 forgot the context.Feb 26 17:27
XRevan86scientes: literally, ehFeb 26 17:27
scientesshe's talking so seriously, but then all that she is showing is endless numbers of colorful cuntsFeb 26 17:27
XRevan86scientes: Felony is a serious matter after all.Feb 26 17:27
XRevan86Even if it is about colourful cunts %).Feb 26 17:27
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OrchidaceaeFeb 26 17:28
scientes^^^^^^on the topic of cuntsFeb 26 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Orchidaceae - WikipediaFeb 26 17:28
XRevan86I keep waiting for them to deem Pink Floyd pornography.Feb 26 17:29
scientesI was just walking past the fountain here and they were playing "We Don't Need No Education"Feb 26 17:29
XRevan86The film has a theme about orchids.Feb 26 17:29
XRevan86scientes: Coincidence? I think not!Feb 26 17:30
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DaemonFC[m]Brave has a slider that lets you turn off social media buttons.Feb 26 17:59
XRevan86uBlock Origin has a button for that.Feb 26 17:59
DaemonFC[m]Yes, but extensions are slower and have more overhead than Brave's blocker.Feb 26 18:01
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Have you had anyone try to send you BATs?Feb 26 18:01
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: I have a feeling uBlock° well earns its stay.Feb 26 18:02
XRevan86"To follow the story is to become one with it." – the bullshit generator started making sense. I say kill it.Feb 26 18:09
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: BAT?Feb 26 18:44
schestowitzBAT files?Feb 26 18:44
schestowitzBATCH?Feb 26 18:44
schestowitzSorry, I'm not following, was not paying attention to IRC for an hourFeb 26 18:44
XRevan86schestowitz: "Basic Attention Token"Feb 26 18:45
schestowitznever heard thisFeb 26 18:45
XRevan86You know, a cryptocurrency based on Ethereum for those who watch ads that Brave optionally puts instead of ads it blocks.Feb 26 18:46
schestowitzmehFeb 26 18:48
schestowitzMINDs has the CYPTOZZZFeb 26 18:48
schestowitzutter BSDFeb 26 18:48
schestowitzutter BSFeb 26 18:48
schestowitzI'm not impressed by all this CRYPTO stuffFeb 26 18:48
schestowitzor browser that offer tokens you cannot redeem for actual cashFeb 26 18:48
schestowitzif I can't easily buy groceries with it, I might not bother Feb 26 18:49
XRevan86schestowitz: Next thing you'll tell me you don't want to watch ads for money.Feb 26 18:49
XRevan86or for almost money %)Feb 26 18:49
schestowitzwhat's ads?Feb 26 18:52
schestowitzanother acronym?Feb 26 18:53
schestowitz;-pFeb 26 18:53
schestowitzto be frank, a few days ago at the gym I put TV onFeb 26 18:53
schestowitzI was so so so disgusted by ads Feb 26 18:53
schestowitzkept flipping the channelsFeb 26 18:53
schestowitzand they all had ads at the same timeFeb 26 18:53
schestowitzIt didn't last long, I felt sort of abused and insulted, maybe because I'm not used to adsFeb 26 18:54
schestowitzon this new PC I still have not installed ad blockerFeb 26 18:54
schestowitzand it's revolving at timesFeb 26 18:54
schestowitzI mostly use the old machine for browsingFeb 26 18:54
schestowitzI really can't grasp now how anyone tolerates these adsFeb 26 18:55
schestowitzmaybe because I get exposed to so few of these, so I think outside t he box/mainstreamFeb 26 18:55
XRevan86schestowitz: Buy our junkFeb 26 18:57
schestowitzthat would not be so badFeb 26 18:58
schestowitzbut it's worseFeb 26 18:58
schestowitzit is more subtle and sophisticatedFeb 26 18:58
schestowitzlike the US Army's b rainwashFeb 26 18:58
schestowitzabout protecting peopleFeb 26 18:58
schestowitzthey protect oil companies etc.Feb 26 18:58
schestowitzSomeone recently explained to me that the company system1 is called after a marketing conceptFeb 26 18:59
schestowitzwhich I did not know about, I don' t know theseFeb 26 18:59
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow "The central thesis is a dichotomy between two modes of thought: "System 1" is fast, instinctive and emotional; "System 2" is slower, more deliberative, and more logical."Feb 26 19:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Thinking, Fast and Slow - WikipediaFeb 26 19:00
XRevan86schestowitz: Is that it?Feb 26 19:01
XRevan86Sounds like it.Feb 26 19:01
XRevan86https://youtu.be/UBVV8pch1dMFeb 26 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Science of Thinking - YouTubeFeb 26 19:04
XRevan86(Veritasium)Feb 26 19:04
scientesXRevan86, _Fucking, Fast and Slow_Feb 26 19:04
scientes"The central thesis is a dichotomy between two modes of fucking: "System 1" is a slow, cautious, and untrusting; "System 2" is fast, deliberate, and productive in ejaculations.Feb 26 19:07
scientessorry for my French, but you are full of non-senseFeb 26 19:07
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: You could sign up with the Brave Rewards thing and then people could donate BATs to your sites.Feb 26 19:13
DaemonFC[m]Wikipedia accepts BATs now.Feb 26 19:14
XRevan86Can one buy a licence for The Bat! with BATs?Feb 26 19:14
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I've generated 2 BATs so far.Feb 26 20:42
DaemonFC[m]That's like 50 cents.Feb 26 20:42
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I don't know if it's sustainable.Feb 26 20:42
DaemonFC[m]I'll probably empty my BAT wallet to give money to Tor and Wikipedia or something when it accumulates.Feb 26 20:42
MinceRare the replacement ads less evil? (i.e. less intrusive, less animated, less malicious)Feb 26 20:43
DaemonFC[m]They're system notifications. They just go away if you don't click on them. They pay you more if you do.Feb 26 20:44
DaemonFC[m]You don't have to give them to the sites you visit.Feb 26 20:45
DaemonFC[m]You can cash out your BATs for your local currency or give them to anyone you like.Feb 26 20:45
DaemonFC[m]The default is split your BATs proportionally between the sites you visit. But the BATs you would send to Youtube, Reddit, etc. go to the people whose posts/videos you view if they signed up to receive BATs.Feb 26 20:47
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DaemonFC[m]Oh wow, according to batgrowth, you can donate BATs to porn site channel owners.Feb 26 20:48
MinceRwhere does the money come from?Feb 26 20:51
DaemonFC[m]The notification ads. Brave does a local calculation of your interests and supplies the notifications based on a downloaded pool.Feb 26 20:51
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't tell the advertiser anything about you.Feb 26 20:52
MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/1912075Feb 26 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectFeb 26 20:53
DaemonFC[m]Advertisers pay Brave in BAT to push their ads and then Brave keeps 30% for themselves and gives you 70% of the revenue.Feb 26 20:53
schestowitzMinceR: nice...Feb 26 20:54
DaemonFC[m]Brave has about 10 million users.Feb 26 20:55
DaemonFC[m]If each user generates $70 in BAT for themselves and $30 for Brave each year, they're already making about $300 million a year in advertising.Feb 26 20:56
DaemonFC[m]I suspect that Brave will keep growing.Feb 26 20:56
DaemonFC[m]It's still very much at the "venture capital" phase though.Feb 26 20:56
DaemonFC[m]In other words, if you invest money you could either be looking at Coca Cola IPO or Webvan. :PFeb 26 20:57
MinceRdo those system notifications pop up if brave is not focused / not visible?Feb 26 21:00
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, but only one, until you come back.Feb 26 21:03
DaemonFC[m]They don't stack up as missed notifications or anything.Feb 26 21:03
DaemonFC[m]On the phone they do.Feb 26 21:03
DaemonFC[m]But only up to three.Feb 26 21:03
MinceR:)Feb 26 21:03
DaemonFC[m]And you get paid something even if you clear them,Feb 26 21:03
DaemonFC[m]I told it give me up to 5 ads per hour.Feb 26 21:03
DaemonFC[m]It seems that if you don't click on them, you make about 1 penny, but if you do click, you make 2-3.Feb 26 21:04
DaemonFC[m]Nothing stops you from just continuing to browse as they come and go and make about 1 BAT per day.Feb 26 21:04
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Also, some of them are just Brave saying click here and we'll give you 5 BAT for free.Feb 26 21:05
DaemonFC[m]And then it's like a page about something you can do with Brave.Feb 26 21:05
DaemonFC[m]You can also buy BAT and put them in your wallet. You get a small discount for buying them 100 at a time instead of 1 or 10.Feb 26 21:06
DaemonFC[m]I'm guessing because they get less processing fees if you are using a debit card or something.Feb 26 21:07
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I'm considering buying BATs and holding onto them and then cashing out at some point.Feb 26 21:09
DaemonFC[m]Coronavirus panic hit BAT pretty hard.Feb 26 21:09
DaemonFC[m]If it just rebounds, I could see a 25% ROI within a month or two.Feb 26 21:09
MinceRlolFeb 26 21:10
MinceRpeople are afraid of BATs, eh?Feb 26 21:10
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I don't think it'll be too long before some stores start accepting your BATs.Feb 26 21:10
DaemonFC[m]They can easily swap them for cash.Feb 26 21:10
DaemonFC[m]No processing fees.Feb 26 21:11
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: In the Illinois marijuana economy, they can't accept credit/debit.Feb 26 21:11
DaemonFC[m]The feds would seize any money they put in the bank.Feb 26 21:11
MinceRcan they accept BATs?Feb 26 21:11
DaemonFC[m]It would make sense for the pot retailers to accept BATs, Ethereum, and Bitcoin because then they don't need to hold onto cash.Feb 26 21:12
DaemonFC[m]They sold $40 million of recreational marijuana last month and that was with the supply shortage.Feb 26 21:12
DaemonFC[m]> can they accept BATs?Feb 26 21:13
DaemonFC[m]Sure, they could just let you pre-pay on their website and then come to the store with your confirmation code once they get your BATs.Feb 26 21:13
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DaemonFC[m]I think BATs for marijuana would be the funniest thing ever. Because then all the potheads in the world would install Brave, which would essentially be giving them free marijuana to browse the web.Feb 26 21:14
DaemonFC[m]It would be the best thing to ever happen for me. I get to browse the web like I do anyway and Brave gives me BAT for pot.Feb 26 21:15
MinceR:)Feb 26 21:23
XRevan86What was wrong with them Romans?Feb 26 21:28
XRevan86I was just checking etymology of coloured cabbage…Feb 26 21:29
XRevan86https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/caulis#LatinFeb 26 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | caulis - WiktionaryFeb 26 21:29
XRevan86> cauliflower – Compare Latin caulis, French chou-fleur, Italian cavolfiore. Feb 26 21:29
XRevan86> 1. stalk, stem, 2. stem of a cabbageFeb 26 21:30
XRevan86> 3. penisFeb 26 21:30
XRevan86because of courseFeb 26 21:30
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MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/05/682cf212988a862f.mp4Feb 26 21:38
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XRevan86MinceR: AAAAAAAFeb 26 21:39
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I suspect the hotel is losing more money by slowing down my internet.Feb 26 21:42
DaemonFC[m]I just leave the laptop on with my hard drive plugged in downloading things constantly.Feb 26 21:42
DaemonFC[m]Probably costs them a few bucks in electricity trying to get me to pay $20 for faster internet and me not doing that..Feb 26 21:43
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DaemonFC[m]It's exactly what I had to do years ago when DSL wasn't any faster than this anyway.Feb 26 21:44
DaemonFC[m]It's kind of a shame more people don't share Opus.Feb 26 21:46
DaemonFC[m]It's inefficient to have to download FLACs to do it yourself.Feb 26 21:46
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MinceRunless you want to re-encode them to some better lossy format laterFeb 26 21:48
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I don't throw the FLACs away.Feb 26 21:48
DaemonFC[m]I save them to my hard drive.Feb 26 21:48
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DaemonFC[m]I suppose I could use ExFAT on the hard drive again if they ever get a driver that's not completely fucked.Feb 26 21:49
DaemonFC[m]I gave up last time because I was starting to get file system corruption errors with the FUSE driver.Feb 26 21:49
DaemonFC[m]:/Feb 26 21:49
DaemonFC[m]Also, it took up an insane amount of CPU.Feb 26 21:49
DaemonFC[m]I'm using Ext4 now.Feb 26 21:49
DaemonFC[m]Which involved copying stuff over, formatting it again, and then copying it all back.Feb 26 21:50
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Wait, why would you use ExFAT on a hard drive?Feb 26 21:50
DaemonFC[m]That was a painful lesson. ExFAT Fuse is obviously getting some stuff wrong if there's corruption issues.Feb 26 21:50
MinceRbecause he likes to live dangerouslyFeb 26 21:50
XRevan86With or without a driver, like at allFeb 26 21:50
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Do you have dual-boot with Шindows?Feb 26 21:51
DaemonFC[m]It's a de facto standard, unfortunately. As in Macs, Windows (obviously), and Chrome OS all know what it is.Feb 26 21:51
DaemonFC[m]Well, it's an aside. I may have to someday in the future use or interact with something else.Feb 26 21:52
DaemonFC[m]And I wanted my file system to be compatible.Feb 26 21:52
DaemonFC[m]Also FAT32 is so not an option.Feb 26 21:52
MinceRi, too, know what it is: shit.Feb 26 21:52
MinceRactually, it's worse than that: it's patent-encrusted shit.Feb 26 21:52
DaemonFC[m]It's well supported and not scary dangerous, but it has too many limitations.Feb 26 21:52
DaemonFC[m]I have video files that are over 4 GB.Feb 26 21:52
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Do you think you can get away without repartitioning if you start dual-booting?Feb 26 21:52
DaemonFC[m]Even in HEVC.Feb 26 21:52
DaemonFC[m]I mean, Windows has some IFS drivers that can read Ext4.Feb 26 21:53
DaemonFC[m]So I guess I wouldn't be totally up shit creek.Feb 26 21:53
MinceRor you could use an NAS :>Feb 26 21:53
DaemonFC[m]It's just an awful lot of data. :)Feb 26 21:53
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Have you considered other, more real, properties a file system should have like robustness?Feb 26 21:53
DaemonFC[m]So much that converting the FLACs to WavPack saved me like 10 GB.Feb 26 21:54
XRevan86Heck, you'd be better off with btrfs.Feb 26 21:54
DaemonFC[m]Ext4 is "robust" enough for a backup hard drive.Feb 26 21:54
XRevan86And what luck, there is a Шindows driver for btrfs!Feb 26 21:54
DaemonFC[m]I looked at what file systems were a real option and Ext4 made the most sense.Feb 26 21:55
MinceRthat still lets Backdoors trash the block device :>Feb 26 21:55
XRevan86And ExFAT is robust enough for the main drive^W^W^W a throw-away USB stickFeb 26 21:55
CrystalMathi prefer ext4Feb 26 21:55
CrystalMathi trust ext4 with my life, literally :PFeb 26 21:55
MinceRexFAT is robust enough for me to never useFeb 26 21:55
DaemonFC[m]It's the default Linux file system, so obviously more people are banging on it in all sorts of ways and finding the bugs I'm most likely to hit before I ever would.Feb 26 21:55
DaemonFC[m]It's actually interesting to see so many Ext4 bugs being patched even 11 years after it was marked stable.Feb 26 21:56
DaemonFC[m]But at least they get patches. Not like the file eating tree of NTFS. :PFeb 26 21:56
MinceRLinux isn't as robust as it used to beFeb 26 21:56
MinceRbut at least it doesn't trash multiple filesystems on sight in an instant, like Backdoors doesFeb 26 21:56
DaemonFC[m]Still......20-some years later.Feb 26 21:57
MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/05/7cc4d886e0cecc58.mp4Feb 26 22:03
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Yeah, SysVInit sucked, but even now years into SystemD, my laptop still hangs on shutdown sometimes.Feb 26 22:15
MinceRwhatever's behind cryptsetup still sucks shitFeb 26 22:16
MinceRclaims the device it's supposed to close is still in use when it isn't or just randomly stops workingFeb 26 22:17
MinceRcryptsetup itself likes to hang forever, alsoFeb 26 22:17
MinceRbecause error handling is for chumpsFeb 26 22:18
DaemonFC[m]They hand me a bible and say "Do you swear to tell the truth?".Feb 26 22:18
MinceRah, it's called dm-cryptFeb 26 22:18
DaemonFC[m]And I go, "Yeah, I swear to tell just as much truth as what's in this here bible."Feb 26 22:18
MinceRlolFeb 26 22:18
MinceRthat will be a challengeFeb 26 22:18
DaemonFC[m]systemd-homed and systemd-earlyoom are coming.Feb 26 22:19
DaemonFC[m]So that should be fun for the whole family.Feb 26 22:19
DaemonFC[m]SystemD, or "Why is my home folder leaking memory?".Feb 26 22:19
MinceRsystemd-homed, systemd-earlyoom, systemd-livingroomFeb 26 22:19
DaemonFC[m]systemd-pornhubd?Feb 26 22:20
DaemonFC[m]Oh, wait, that's the browser formerly known as FirefoxFeb 26 22:20
MinceRsystemd, or, "see, it's not only microsoft and apple who can't get anything right!"Feb 26 22:20
XRevan86https://i.ibb.co/TtgBBGG/image.png waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting…Feb 26 22:30
XRevan86https://youtu.be/yj5WvpkYHz0?t=86Feb 26 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Doors - Waiting For The Sun - YouTubeFeb 26 22:30
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pZpQ35SsyYFeb 26 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Doom II OST (SC55) - Waiting For Romero To Play (Extended) - YouTubeFeb 26 22:31
XRevan86MinceR: Just from the name? :)Feb 26 22:34
MinceRyesFeb 26 22:34
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XRevan86I don't think foxes have hubs.Feb 26 23:54

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