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danielp3344DaemonFC: I generally only buy 'approximately' the right battery anywayNov 28 00:53
danielp3344Last I got one they didn't have the factory sized one for the firebird but they did have one a bit larger that still fitNov 28 00:53
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DaemonFC[m]Daniel Peterson is there one that's close enough to a group 78?Nov 28 01:08
DaemonFC[m]The Crown Victoria takes a Group 65 I recall.Nov 28 01:08
DaemonFC[m]I used a sealed lead acid on that one.Nov 28 01:09
DaemonFC[m]Everstart Maxx, which is made by Johnson Controls for Walmart.Nov 28 01:10
DaemonFC[m]They're Champion batteries. The difference is literally the sticker and the price and where you buy them.Nov 28 01:10
DaemonFC[m]I have never had a problem with a legitimate battery made by Johnson Controls.Nov 28 01:11
DaemonFC[m]I've had problems from the previous owner sticking "What the hell is this crap?" on there.Nov 28 01:11
danielp3344IDK, generally if a battery dies on me I just assume it's the car's fault lolNov 28 01:13
danielp3344More to go wrong thereNov 28 01:13
*danielp3344 usually has to crank his engine for at least 30 secondsNov 28 01:14
DaemonFC[m]I'll never buy anything that's not an AGM again.Nov 28 01:14
DaemonFC[m]I want to throw it in there and not worry about buying another one for a long time and know it will start the car.Nov 28 01:14
danielp3344I can always push start my car :PNov 28 01:15
danielp3344ofc there is the sayingNov 28 01:15
danielp3344to get your car going you need either a reliable engine or a reliable batteryNov 28 01:16
DaemonFC[m]I found an unopened bottle of Valvoline Maxlife synthetic blend 5w30 in the trunk.Nov 28 01:16
danielp3344but you need oneNov 28 01:16
DaemonFC[m]If the car consumes a little of this 0w30 full synthetic I'll just top it off from this.Nov 28 01:16
DaemonFC[m]By the time I need a top off I'll be 6 months out from an oil change anyway most likely.Nov 28 01:16
danielp3344I finished tearing down my 2.8L v6 a few days agoNov 28 01:17
danielp3344Everything looks goodNov 28 01:17
danielp3344All the parts are soaking in degreaser and I'll order the rebuild kit soonNov 28 01:17
danielp3344Gonna paint the block and stuffNov 28 01:17
DaemonFC[m]The guy at Pep Boys said rotate my tires every other oil change.Nov 28 01:17
danielp3344oh yeah tires.....Nov 28 01:17
DaemonFC[m]I said "Every oil change for me then. Full synthetic.".Nov 28 01:18
danielp3344This car had been sitting for 10 years when I bought itNov 28 01:18
danielp3344Still those tires on it right nowNov 28 01:18
DaemonFC[m]He was surprised I was running 0w30 full synthetic in an 03 Impala with 264,000 miles.Nov 28 01:18
danielp3344I can burn rubber all the way into second gear lolNov 28 01:18
DaemonFC[m]I would definitely get new tires before you have a blowoutNov 28 01:18
danielp3344DaemonFC: When it has plates on it for sureNov 28 01:19
DaemonFC[m]They're running some decent sales B2G2 on Definity HP800s.Nov 28 01:19
danielp3344but it's got a lot more to do before being road worthyNov 28 01:19
DaemonFC[m]So I got 4 of those installed for $300.Nov 28 01:19
danielp3344DaemonFC: I'm looking at NT01s or R888RsNov 28 01:19
DaemonFC[m]They're made by Cooper and sold under a store brand.Nov 28 01:19
danielp3344so like $600 for all 4Nov 28 01:19
DaemonFC[m]None of those shitty Walmart tires.Nov 28 01:20
DaemonFC[m]Those Douglas tires at Walmart might work if you absolutely never accidentally even so much as bump a curb.Nov 28 01:20
DaemonFC[m]But 1 ply polyester sidewall.Nov 28 01:20
DaemonFC[m]Eek.Nov 28 01:20
DaemonFC[m]Blowout city. No wonder my mom keeps getting free tires from that ridiculous "plan" they sell her.Nov 28 01:21
danielp3344I need something really stickyNov 28 01:21
danielp3344treadwear 200 or lessNov 28 01:21
DaemonFC[m]Definity has tires that fit almost anything.Nov 28 01:21
danielp3344DaemonFC: You run full synthetic in all your cars?Nov 28 01:22
DaemonFC[m]Someone complained they only lasted 10,000 on a BMW, but BMW says don't rotate and they were probably badly out of alignment.Nov 28 01:22
DaemonFC[m]I ignore reviews unless a lot of them are 1 star, then I go "Okay, is there a common complaint here?".Nov 28 01:22
DaemonFC[m]If it's later than around 1992, you should generally use full synthetic assuming the seals and gaskets are good.Nov 28 01:23
DaemonFC[m]They make it in high mileage. So you can cover up minor leaks and burning with that.Nov 28 01:24
danielp3344I always buy cheap walmart oil and change it really oftenNov 28 01:24
DaemonFC[m]I don't use high mileage unless it's a problem car that I'm not going to do anything about.Nov 28 01:24
danielp3344Does synthetic oil actually lubricate better?Nov 28 01:24
DaemonFC[m]Walmart makes Full Synthetic and it's 70 cents more per jug.Nov 28 01:25
DaemonFC[m]Go for it. It's dexos approved.Nov 28 01:25
DaemonFC[m]Yes. It does have superior anti wear and anti sludging and at the 0wXX variety, better cold starts than any conventional oil can do.Nov 28 01:26
DaemonFC[m]Super Tech full synthetic and a good filter. Can't go wrong there.Nov 28 01:26
DaemonFC[m]If you want brand, those are good too. If you want to pay for it, Mobil 1. If you want something a bit cheaper then Pennzoil Platinum.Nov 28 01:27
DaemonFC[m]The place I did my last one had Mobil 1 as thejr 0w30 and did one for $48 after coupon.Nov 28 01:28
DaemonFC[m]The 5 qt jug of mobil 1 is normally in the low $30s but can be cheaper on sale or rebate.Nov 28 01:28
DaemonFC[m]They buy it in bulk so they get bulk pricing.Nov 28 01:28
DaemonFC[m]I'll switch to Pennzoil Platinum or Valvoline Synpower or something if I get a good deal on it.Nov 28 01:30
DaemonFC[m]They have the dexos certification too and the used oil analysis looks good for everything I've seen it used in.Nov 28 01:30
DaemonFC[m]Most samples of either can actually go about 8,000-9,000 miles in most engines without depleting the additives pack as long as there's a good filter.Nov 28 01:31
DaemonFC[m]But 7,500 on an older engine is reasonable.Nov 28 01:31
DaemonFC[m]AAA was a little vague, but they said on average, synthetic is about 30% better for deposit control and about 45% better for wear.Nov 28 01:32
DaemonFC[m]Some new engines get their warranty voided if you ever use conventional oil, even once.Nov 28 01:33
danielp3344I would never buy a car with a warranty Nov 28 01:33
DaemonFC[m]True.Nov 28 01:33
DaemonFC[m]But the theory is sound.Nov 28 01:33
danielp3344I just did some reading about syntheticNov 28 01:34
DaemonFC[m]You change it less often so the price works out in synthetic's favor and it keeps the engine cleaner and in better shape.Nov 28 01:34
danielp3344It seems like the general consensus is it holds its viscosity betterNov 28 01:34
DaemonFC[m]It does not sheer down like conventional does.Nov 28 01:34
danielp3344DaemonFC: I always change oil early for my enginesNov 28 01:35
DaemonFC[m]It would over a longer period of time, but if you drain and fill every 7,500 it'll never happen.Nov 28 01:35
danielp3344largely because they're old and have a lot of blow by etcNov 28 01:35
DaemonFC[m]I would say if it's an older engine that's having blowby problems and lots of miles...Nov 28 01:36
DaemonFC[m]0w40 or 5w40 full synthetic high mileage.Nov 28 01:36
danielp3344DaemonFC: not really a 'problem' just an 80s engine with 300k miles (my truck)Nov 28 01:36
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danielp3344Oil gets dirty fastNov 28 01:36
DaemonFC[m]That way if it cleans a deposit that was plugging an oil leak, it'll swell the seal to compensate.Nov 28 01:36
DaemonFC[m]Top off as needed.Nov 28 01:36
danielp3344now of course the truck has a blown head gasket so that needs work too...Nov 28 01:37
DaemonFC[m]I would recommend addressing that first.Nov 28 01:37
DaemonFC[m]Antifreeze isn't oil, so it will get in and dilute the oil and reduce the viscosity and other nastier stuff.Nov 28 01:37
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DaemonFC[m]Don't use a head gasket sealant unless the truck is abasket case.Nov 28 01:38
danielp3344nah I'll fix it when I have time/moneyNov 28 01:38
DaemonFC[m]You might blow the whole damned thing along with a ton of other stuff.Nov 28 01:38
danielp3344probably after this other engine rebuildNov 28 01:38
danielp3344truck isn't getting driven right nowNov 28 01:39
DaemonFC[m]Post-rebuild use the full synthetic.Nov 28 01:39
DaemonFC[m]If it had new seals and gaskets then what the hell?Nov 28 01:39
DaemonFC[m]Definitely not a risk at that point.Nov 28 01:39
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DaemonFC[m]I'm just running regular synthetic, no high mileage additives.Nov 28 01:40
DaemonFC[m]Told mom if she wants to prevent engine wear just use full synthetic in her car and ignore that high mileage crap unless it actually has a problem.Nov 28 01:40
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DaemonFC[m]It's a 70/30 blend and it's basically conventional oil with hype.Nov 28 01:41
DaemonFC[m]You can get full synthetic with the high mileage package for literally pennies more.Nov 28 01:41
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DaemonFC[m]Daniel Peterson Also, Amazon Basics full synthetic is fine and dexos and Ford approved and all that.Nov 28 01:42
DaemonFC[m]It's the exact same as Super Tech.Nov 28 01:42
DaemonFC[m]If you get a better price on it somehow, they're the same oil.Nov 28 01:43
DaemonFC[m]I would look for dexos on the bottle before anything else regardless of whether it's GM or not.Nov 28 01:44
DaemonFC[m]They have the toughest motor oil standard and if it complies with that, hell, use it in anything and be happyNov 28 01:44
DaemonFC[m]Motorcraft has a full synthetic and that's a Ford oil, so it's not dexos obviously, lol.Nov 28 01:45
DaemonFC[m]But use that in anything you want too.Nov 28 01:45
DaemonFC[m]The only brand I really am not fond of is Valvoline. It's not a bad oil. But it is completely overhyped.Nov 28 01:46
DaemonFC[m]To justify an enormous price.Nov 28 01:46
DaemonFC[m]If you get a fantastic deal on Valvoline full synthetic, use it.Nov 28 01:47
DaemonFC[m]But it's hype.Nov 28 01:47
DaemonFC[m]They aren't obscene in the jug.Nov 28 01:48
DaemonFC[m]But at the Valvoline oil change place, they use that marketing to get old women to pay $90 for an oil change.Nov 28 01:48
DaemonFC[m]Royal Purple is obscene in the jug.Nov 28 01:48
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danielp3344what now?Nov 28 01:49
DaemonFC[m]It's no better than Mobil 1, but it's 30% more expensive, or worse.Nov 28 01:49
DaemonFC[m]I'm not an oil fanboy.Nov 28 01:49
danielp3344DaemonFC: Can I interest you in a matrix room about cars?Nov 28 01:50
DaemonFC[m]I just use what has the evidence to back it up and coupons don't hurt.Nov 28 01:50
DaemonFC[m]Hmmm, maybe.Nov 28 01:50
danielp3344#Auto:fr1tz.fr Nov 28 01:50
DaemonFC[m]Pep Boys was clearancing out a bunch of SAE 30 Pennzoil.Nov 28 01:50
DaemonFC[m]I would never ever use that.Nov 28 01:51
danielp3344seems like we mainly just talk about cars here lolNov 28 01:51
DaemonFC[m]But I remember you saying you did.Nov 28 01:51
danielp3344DaemonFC: yeah but only because I found a 5 quart jug in the garage lolNov 28 01:51
danielp3344and it was the only oil around to throw in the truckNov 28 01:51
danielp3344in quantity anywayNov 28 01:51
danielp3344It's run fineNov 28 01:51
DaemonFC[m]I'm addicted to the cold starts of 0w30 in the frozen Illinois hellscape.Nov 28 01:52
danielp3344Hasn't gotten super cold yet here but we were down to 10 degrees a while ago and the truck still started greatNov 28 01:52
DaemonFC[m]Turns right over and drive off with it 10 seconds later.Nov 28 01:52
DaemonFC[m]The engine ran like shit before warmup on that 5w30 Valvoline conventional mom had in it.Nov 28 01:53
danielp3344Ofc it always takes 20 minutes to get the heat going... But oil pressure stabilizes in about 10 secondsNov 28 01:53
DaemonFC[m]I ran it until it was close enough to 3,000 and then ditched it.Nov 28 01:53
*danielp3344 feels special having a real oil pressure gauge in a ford lolNov 28 01:53
DaemonFC[m]The Crown Vic had one.Nov 28 01:54
DaemonFC[m]The Impala does not.Nov 28 01:54
danielp3344DaemonFC: really?Nov 28 01:54
danielp3344We have a 2001 mercury grand marquis and it doesntNov 28 01:54
DaemonFC[m]I go by idle RPM. I wait until it drops back down to take off.Nov 28 01:54
danielp3344I mean it has a 'gauge' but no senderNov 28 01:54
DaemonFC[m]About 10 seconds or so. 15 if it's really cold out.Nov 28 01:54
danielp3344anw bblNov 28 01:55
*danielp3344 is going to make apple pie for tomorrowNov 28 01:56
DaemonFC[m]Three varieties of apple.Nov 28 01:57
DaemonFC[m]Cinnamon and nutmeg.Nov 28 01:57
DaemonFC[m]Plenty of sugar, and ignore that multiple type.of sugar nonsense. Brown sugar for the entire thing.Nov 28 01:57
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DaemonFC[m]Daniel Peterson Advance Auto Parts Blac Friday has Pennzoil Platinum for $12.99 per jug after MIR.Nov 28 02:09
DaemonFC[m]Not sure what the limit is, but that's definitely a stock up price.Nov 28 02:10
DaemonFC[m]I'm not terribly picky about oil filters.Nov 28 02:13
DaemonFC[m]Enough to ask if the shop uses FRAM and leaving if they say yes.Nov 28 02:13
DaemonFC[m]Pep Boys uses an assortment of STP filters and Pennzoil unless you ask for something else. They have deals on Mobil 1 too most of the time.Nov 28 02:15
DaemonFC[m]Car-X has US Lube Thrive for bulk conventional and Mobil 1 for synthetic and uses Purolator filters.Nov 28 02:16
DaemonFC[m]Walmart uses Quaker State for their bulk oils (nothing wrong here) and an extra shitty FRAM made especially cheaply for Walmart.Nov 28 02:18
DaemonFC[m]You can request a better filter, and maybe they'll toss in not destroying your car while it's at Walmart. Good luck.Nov 28 02:19
DaemonFC[m]I love Pep Boys.Nov 28 02:19
DaemonFC[m]It's the first time I got budget tires that are any good and they managed not to fuck up the balancing.Nov 28 02:20
DaemonFC[m]Walmart always does and their tires are awful (Douglas) or just okay (Goodyear Viva).Nov 28 02:20
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XRevan86schestowitz: No, more like barfing soundsNov 28 13:24
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scientesXRevan86, this one is more barf, except the Russian is clear and useful https://3ears.com/media/2567Nov 28 13:34
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XRevan86scientes: That's bad.Nov 28 13:40
scientesПлохоNov 28 13:41
XRevan86scientes: https://3ears.com/media/2567Nov 28 13:42
scientesyeah, its badNov 28 13:42
scientesXRevan86, if you meant to link to another video, you failedNov 28 13:43
XRevan86oh, great ajax thereNov 28 13:43
scientesthis one is much better, simple and to the point https://3ears.com/media/2603 You notice it sticks to the present tenseNov 28 13:44
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XRevan86scientes: https://3ears.com/media/1887Nov 28 13:44
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XRevan86That's what I was going to link toNov 28 13:44
scientesahh that is pretty goodNov 28 13:45
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scientesInterpol just put out an international warrant against Evo MoralesNov 28 13:47
scientesthey only get crazier and crazierNov 28 13:47
scientesI just sent UN refugee agency a requestNov 28 13:47
scientesas I have a warrant in the USNov 28 13:47
scientesfor what is a labor disputeNov 28 13:48
scientesas if they think Mexico will give him up......Nov 28 13:48
XRevan86scientes: https://3ears.com/media/1849Nov 28 13:51
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scienteshe has that gutteral sound in his speachNov 28 13:52
scientesspeechNov 28 13:52
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scientesABABCDCD rhymingNov 28 13:56
scientessophisticatedNov 28 13:56
scientesnot quite iambic pentameterNov 28 13:56
XRevan86https://3ears.com/media/1348 more light-heartedNov 28 13:58
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scientesИ хлещу я березовым веничкомNov 28 13:58
scientesheheNov 28 13:58
scientesvery light heartedNov 28 13:58
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XRevan86scientes: You know, bañaNov 28 14:00
scientesbottom?Nov 28 14:01
XRevan86saunaNov 28 14:01
scientesso its part of going from cold to hot?Nov 28 14:02
scientesor hot to cold?Nov 28 14:02
XRevan86scientes: The bath broom?Nov 28 14:02
scientesyesNov 28 14:02
scienteswhat is it used for?Nov 28 14:03
scientesmy experience with saunas is that you do the hot, and the dip in the cold, and then go back to hotNov 28 14:03
scientesas many times as you can standNov 28 14:03
XRevan86scientes: This is during the hot stage.Nov 28 14:04
XRevan86Massaging and stuffNov 28 14:05
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XRevan86https://3ears.com/media/1349Nov 28 14:16
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XRevan86scientes: Lacking in terms of Russian music, but at least there's plenty of VysotskyNov 28 14:17
*scientes doesn't know anything of Russia musicNov 28 14:21
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scienteswell, except classicalNov 28 14:22
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scientes*Russian folk musicNov 28 14:22
XRevan86I was looking for Виктор Цой (Кино), for Егор Летов (Гражданская оборота), unsuccessfullyNov 28 14:23
scienteshttps://lwn.net/Articles/791863/Nov 28 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lockdown as a security module [LWN.net]Nov 28 14:24
scientesut ohNov 28 14:24
scientesgot mergedNov 28 14:25
scientesthe reason it is such a bad idea is that linux is *not* secureNov 28 14:25
scientesthis is not SEl4Nov 28 14:25
XRevan86No Nautilus Pompilius eitherNov 28 14:27
scientesXRevan86, i think anyone can add contentNov 28 14:27
scientesits really just in subtitling stuffNov 28 14:28
scientesand that can even be done properly on youtubeNov 28 14:28
scientesalthough without the word-granularity this doesNov 28 14:28
scientesbut that is not neededNov 28 14:28
scienteswhat's nice about this is the mouse-over translations of wordsNov 28 14:28
XRevan86scientes: Just surprisingNov 28 14:30
XRevan86let's see if they have any romancesNov 28 14:30
scienteswell its probably not done by native speakersNov 28 14:30
scientesi.e. not done by people with good knowledge of Russian musicNov 28 14:31
XRevan86https://3ears.com/media/1829Nov 28 14:34
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scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGBF2XYRiz0Nov 28 14:40
scientesvery different cultureNov 28 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BEMBE Orquesta feat Farik Grippa - En Peligro de Extinción - YouTubeNov 28 14:40
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scientesmachismoNov 28 14:40
XRevan86https://3ears.com/media/1897 https://3ears.com/media/2491 found these of course, but not by singers that I expectedNov 28 14:41
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scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ZCEWo1pfENov 28 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BEMBE Orquesta - Amigos No Por Favor - YouTubeNov 28 14:41
XRevan86(not romances, just famous WW2 songs)Nov 28 14:43
XRevan86A romance: https://youtu.be/GBmO2iW7WjYNov 28 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Олег Погудин "В лунном сиянии" (Динь-динь-динь) - Oleg Pogudin - YouTubeNov 28 14:44
XRevan86Oh, wait, I linked to Очи чёрныя there above, that's a romance.Nov 28 14:44
scienteswith the spanish classical guitar thereNov 28 14:45
XRevan86BEMBE Orquesta – me no likeNov 28 14:46
scienteswell i was pointing out the cultureNov 28 14:47
scienteswhat about it?Nov 28 14:47
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XRevan86scientes: unremarkable, I guessNov 28 14:48
scienteswell yeah, latin jazz all sounds the sameNov 28 14:48
scientesbut it is much more sophisticated for folk musicNov 28 14:49
scientesas the street musicians even do itNov 28 14:49
scientesXRevan86, when I sent that first video to one of my Peruano friends she said "ahh, that's music" :)Nov 28 14:50
XRevan86Wanted to say "barely melodical", but I linked to way too many bard songs :)Nov 28 14:50
scientesahhh, then it is just that your ear is not accustomed to jazz chordsNov 28 14:51
scienteswhich are more complicated that simple heavy on the 5th (3/8ths frequency) fork stuffNov 28 14:51
scientes*folkNov 28 14:51
scientes7th is heavy in jazzNov 28 14:52
scientesstill a fairly simple chord progressionNov 28 14:53
scientesnothing like circle of 5thsNov 28 14:53
*XRevan86 lacks musical awareness.Nov 28 14:54
scienteshere is a circle of 5ths https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsz3mrnIBd0Nov 28 14:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-" Autumn Leaves " Chet Baker - Paul Desmond - YouTubeNov 28 14:55
scienteswhich J.S. Bach perfectedNov 28 14:55
scientesbut jazz brought it into folk musicNov 28 14:55
XRevan86scientes: That's niceNov 28 14:58
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scientesits especially nice because 99% of folk songs are just 1-4-and-5 major chordsNov 28 15:09
scientessometimes with a 2 in thereNov 28 15:09
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4INov 28 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Axis of Awesome - 4 Four Chord Song (with song titles) - YouTubeNov 28 15:10
scienteshttps://3ears.com/media/2491 yeah i've heard this beforeNov 28 15:19
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scientesthey are also using a traditional lute in thereNov 28 15:20
scientesinstead of a spanish classical guitarNov 28 15:21
XRevan86scientes: https://youtu.be/u20NMcfdGCgNov 28 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Анна Герман - "Катюша" - YouTubeNov 28 15:21
XRevan86scientes: A much more commonly known versionNov 28 15:24
XRevan86> Throughout her music career, she recorded songs in seven languages: Polish, Russian, German, Italian, Spanish, English and Latin.Nov 28 15:26
scientesholy fuckNov 28 15:26
scientesI was at the Stalin museum (sooo boring, all communist propaganda), and they said they could do it in basically any European languageNov 28 15:27
scientesbut not chineseNov 28 15:27
*XRevan86 is trying to find any Anna German recording not in Russian and Polish.Nov 28 15:28
XRevan86https://youtu.be/9CECic0a61Q trovis en la italaNov 28 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anna German - Torna A Surriento - YouTubeNov 28 15:29
scientesby Latin, it probably means some of the old classics, tooNov 28 15:29
*XRevan86 doesn't know Italian, but this seems Slavic-accented %)Nov 28 15:29
scientessame with LatinNov 28 15:29
scientes*same with ItalisnNov 28 15:29
scientesthe ones that all classically-trained singers learnNov 28 15:30
XRevan86scientes: I thought by Latin they literally mean LatinNov 28 15:30
scientesthere are classics in both IIUCNov 28 15:30
XRevan86Like https://youtu.be/6xUnSVTh8fI (:Nov 28 15:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ERA - Ameno - YouTubeNov 28 15:31
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scienteshttps://youtu.be/ad2LO4ScNKM?t=614 why is the Russian national anthem always played out of tune by foreign bands?Nov 28 15:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-REFEED: Putin begins state visit to UAE - YouTubeNov 28 15:31
XRevan86(is that actual Latin?)Nov 28 15:31
danielp3344XRevan86: what?Nov 28 15:31
*danielp3344 is somewhat OK at latinNov 28 15:31
XRevan86danielp3344: ^ Era – AmenoNov 28 15:31
XRevan86> The lyrics are written in Pseudo-LatinNov 28 15:32
XRevan86never mindNov 28 15:32
danielp3344not really...Nov 28 15:32
danielp3344sortaNov 28 15:32
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XRevan86So another Prisencolinensinainciusol :)Nov 28 15:32
scientesthis is Italian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWc7vYjgnTsNov 28 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Luciano Pavarotti sings "Nessun dorma" from Turandot (The Three Tenors in Concert 1994) - YouTubeNov 28 15:34
XRevan86scientes: Yes, that's Italian %)Nov 28 15:35
XRevan86So is https://youtu.be/P3u2hjY__DcNov 28 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mario Lanza - Torna a Surriento - YouTubeNov 28 15:36
scientesalso, classical music notes are all written in italianNov 28 15:36
scientesits a set small vocabularyNov 28 15:36
scientesbut it means I can read stuff from Moscow University that is public domainNov 28 15:37
scientesbecause its soviet stuffNov 28 15:37
XRevan86scientes: And I mentioned Prisencolinensinainciusol, which is a song by an Italian singer/actor Adriano CelentanoNov 28 15:38
XRevan86scientes: And there's a whole genre Italo disco :)Nov 28 15:40
scientesahhhhh, Handel's MessiahNov 28 15:40
scientesoh damn, EnglishNov 28 15:40
XRevan86Italo disco: https://youtu.be/8wA_0lSxkG8 https://youtu.be/_GKQi4a78ZE https://youtu.be/O8Gtv33OMOUNov 28 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richi e Poveri-Sarà perché ti amo(1981) - YouTubeNov 28 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gazebo - I Like Chopin - YouTubeNov 28 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Radiorama - Yeti (album version) - YouTubeNov 28 15:43
XRevan86"oh damn, English" – where?Nov 28 15:44
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhhYIZJj6rkNov 28 15:45
scientesahhh hereNov 28 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GLORIA IN EXCELSIS DEO. Antonio Vivaldi. Director: Antonio Fauró - YouTubeNov 28 15:46
scientesXRevan86, Handel's Messiah is in EnglishNov 28 15:46
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scientes(I've done a reading of it too before)Nov 28 15:46
scientesnot easy piece to playNov 28 15:46
scienteswell, not difficult, but not easy to sight-readNov 28 15:46
scientesAntonio Vivaldi's Latin workNov 28 15:47
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oiaohmhttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-semiconductors-insight/u-s-based-chip-tech-group-moving-to-switzerland-over-trade-curb-fears-idUSKBN1XZ16L  << this is turning into a mess.Nov 28 17:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S.-based chip-tech group moving to Switzerland over trade curb fears - ReutersNov 28 17:06
scientesoiaohm, it already is a messNov 28 17:07
scientesoiaohm, I am even applying for refugee statusNov 28 17:08
scientesfrom the USNov 28 17:09
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MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKdP-LVWoAApEqu?format=jpg&name=origNov 28 18:01
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwuMvz0ocZUNov 28 19:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cat Attacks Bird Perfectly - YouTubeNov 28 19:33
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MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2019/10/31/b57c96d3f90693f5.jpgNov 28 19:53
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/640016.jpgNov 28 20:17
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/10/01/e8381555a97da61e.jpgNov 28 20:43
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MinceR(audio:important) https://hugelol.com/lol/640707Nov 28 22:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | The frustration is realNov 28 22:18
XRevan86MinceR: Too scenicNov 28 22:22
MinceR:)Nov 28 22:22
XRevan86There's something uncomfortable in have two screens one of which has a PPI of 86 and the other – 176Nov 28 22:31
XRevan86* in havingNov 28 22:31
MinceRhttps://hugelol.com/lol/640615Nov 28 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | carigonNov 28 22:58
DaemonFC[m]http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1911.3/02404.htmlNov 28 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: [GIT PULL] sysctl: Remove the sysctl system callNov 28 22:59
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: What is a sysctl system call?Nov 28 23:00
DaemonFC[m]It's warmed over UNIX compatibility that nothing modern uses.Nov 28 23:01
MinceRwhat does the sysctl command line tool use?Nov 28 23:01
DaemonFC[m]In modern Linux and (I'm guessing others.) the data is exposed via /proc/sys and the actual sysctl system call was just a compatibility stub.Nov 28 23:01
DaemonFC[m]So this removes that compatibility stub, which was deprecated in 2009.Nov 28 23:03
XRevan86MinceR: Apparently /proc/sys/Nov 28 23:03
DaemonFC[m]And a system call that was only necessary in ancient libc implementations that don't work anymore with Linux 5.5 was finally removed.Nov 28 23:03
MinceRicNov 28 23:03
DaemonFC[m]This doesn't affect RHEL 8 or Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (afaik).Nov 28 23:05
DaemonFC[m]It's there, harmlessly. Nothing uses it though.Nov 28 23:05
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sysctl#Linux even Wikipedia mentions thatNov 28 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | sysctl - WikipediaNov 28 23:05
XRevan86> The sysctl system call does exist on Linux, but it has been deprecated and does not have a wrapper function in glibcNov 28 23:06
DaemonFC[m]Wrappers in glibc are not a good thing anyway.Nov 28 23:06
MinceRi hope posix doesn't require it then :>Nov 28 23:06
DaemonFC[m]Many ended up either being removed entirely or moved into the kernel if they were worth keeping.Nov 28 23:07
DaemonFC[m]Because it can result in a mess that works differently depending on the underlying kernel.Nov 28 23:07
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: These cheap Chinese car tires are actually better than those "American" ones mom got at Walmart. LOLNov 28 23:08
MinceR:>Nov 28 23:08
DaemonFC[m]They ride better, handle better, grip better, and the sidewall is twice as thick.Nov 28 23:09
DaemonFC[m]Mom keeps getting that downmarket Goodyear rubbish.Nov 28 23:09
DaemonFC[m]Then saying "I just love this tire warranty. I get all these free tires every time my tire blows out.".Nov 28 23:09
MinceRlolNov 28 23:10
DaemonFC[m]If she got a 2 ply sidewall, then many or all of those blow outs wouldn't happen in the first place.Nov 28 23:10
DaemonFC[m]I saw on the side of one of them "sidewall 1 ply polyester" and it was cracked.Nov 28 23:11
DaemonFC[m]I was like "Oh shit.".Nov 28 23:11
DaemonFC[m]The DOT code said made in 2012.Nov 28 23:11
DaemonFC[m]I'm like "No wonder I can't keep air in it. Better get down to Pep Boys while they have their store brand of Coopers on sale.".Nov 28 23:11
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/10/01/b188a19259598da6.jpgNov 28 23:18
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