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DaemonFC[m]YeahDec 29 00:39
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MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/trolley-5Dec 29 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - TrolleyDec 29 02:16
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MinceRhttps://nitter.net/MikeSington/status/1343605614035943434Dec 29 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Mike Sington (@MikeSington): "The Trump Hotel in Washington DC has conceded the election. They’ve unblocked all the rooms they had reserved for Inauguration Week, and have made them available to anyone, at a 25% discount." | nitterDec 29 04:43
schestowitzhttps://www.maketecheasier.com/what-is-6g/#respondDec 29 05:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | What Is 6G and How Does It Work? - Make Tech EasierDec 29 05:34
schestowitzlol, 6gDec 29 05:34
schestowitz10g coming soonDec 29 05:34
schestowitzthis is buzzwords-centric crapDec 29 05:45
schestowitzchina has the XG, watch out, soon X+1GDec 29 05:45
schestowitzno actual substance to itDec 29 05:45
schestowitzscaremongering and marketingDec 29 05:45
DaemonFC[m]https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/pat-robertson-trump-2020-election/index.htmlDec 29 05:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Televangelist Pat Robertson says Trump lives in an 'alternate reality' and should move on from election loss - CNNPoliticsDec 29 05:49
DaemonFC[m]"I had prayed and hoped that there might be some better solution, but I think it's all over," said Robertson, who previously said he was told by God that Trump would win the 2020 election.Dec 29 05:49
DaemonFC[m]God had bad information. He must watch OANN.Dec 29 05:49
schestowitzCNN: X saysDec 29 05:49
schestowitznice 'reporting'Dec 29 05:49
schestowitzeven if X is a k00kDec 29 05:50
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Robertson is the reason grandma had end of the world food piled under the beds in her house.Dec 29 05:50
schestowitzif there is an end of worldDec 29 05:50
schestowitzthere's no time to eat itDec 29 05:51
DaemonFC[m]A sack of sugar turned into a brick and Gonad broke his toe on it while he was there moving something.Dec 29 05:51
DaemonFC[m]Y2K that time.Dec 29 05:51
DaemonFC[m]She just left it all under there for like 6-7 years.Dec 29 05:51
schestowitzwhat a waste of food!Dec 29 05:51
DaemonFC[m]Mom said grandma came over with her Cadillac trunk full of canned food with expiration dates years past.Dec 29 05:51
DaemonFC[m]And she was like "Now you just ignore those dates. It's still fine to eat!".Dec 29 05:52
DaemonFC[m]And they waved bye and then tossed it all in the garbage.Dec 29 05:52
DaemonFC[m]Then mom lived with Grandma for a couple years after the divorce from Dave and found a garage full of hoarded food that she had to throw out.Dec 29 05:53
DaemonFC[m]I mean it was just constant.Dec 29 05:53
DaemonFC[m]My grandmother has always been pretty far off, but hoarding food and then letting it all go bad was just a small part of it.Dec 29 05:54
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's bothering me, the immigration appt next month. I feel like it's crunch time and I'm going to forget some homework or something.Dec 29 05:55
DaemonFC[m]It was affecting my sleep last night. I know that's crazy. I only have to assemble two packets of information for them, but it's like after 2 years this is it. And we'll probably win, but maybe not.Dec 29 05:56
DaemonFC[m]They'll decide whatever it is they'll decide and there's not a lot I can do about it.Dec 29 05:56
DaemonFC[m]I don't have many pictures from this year to bring in.Dec 29 05:59
DaemonFC[m]It wasn't really a year of going out and doing things.Dec 29 05:59
schestowitzyeah, makes senseDec 29 06:05
schestowitzthey might even be understandingDec 29 06:05
schestowitzwell, tbh, head-shaving doesn't leave a very good impressionDec 29 06:05
schestowitzjust make sure nobody says something stupidDec 29 06:06
schestowitzbetter to say too little than to utter what justifies red inkDec 29 06:06
schestowitzanyway, about food hoarding...Dec 29 06:06
schestowitzbrexit and covid gave people some reasons to do the sameDec 29 06:06
schestowitzbut if you hoard food for a temporary period of uncertainty, then at least use it when that period is overDec 29 06:07
schestowitzat least swap it with newer foodDec 29 06:07
schestowitzthey like to mock "stupid" people (some of them types would say "sheeple") for not hoarding food for tough times, but if they buy food and let it spoil, who's stupid after all?Dec 29 06:08
schestowitzI've seen this in LOADS of sites yesterday https://www.wlwt.com/article/if-you-want-to-travel-next-year-you-may-need-a-vaccine-passport/35076931Dec 29 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wlwt.com | If you want to travel next year, you may need a vaccine passportDec 29 06:12
schestowitzthis is sort of fear-mongeringDec 29 06:12
schestowitztell us when there's a vaccineDec 29 06:12
schestowitzwhat we have now is for-profit clinical trialsDec 29 06:12
schestowitzwe know little aboutDec 29 06:12
schestowitzefficacyDec 29 06:12
schestowitzinc. in the face of mutationsDec 29 06:12
schestowitzlike the latest strains observed in S Africa and Western EuropeDec 29 06:12
schestowitzwe also have no idea about long-term side effect, though we already know people with allergies suffer short-term side-effectsDec 29 06:13
schestowitzso they're basically blackmailing peopleDec 29 06:13
schestowitzand putting the shame sort of squeeze on themDec 29 06:13
schestowitzif people were prevented from flying for rejecting these clinical trialsDec 29 06:13
schestowitzI'd say, "OK"Dec 29 06:13
schestowitzSo I'm staying here. Nothing against vaccinations in general...Dec 29 06:14
schestowitzLike my dad told me yesterday, "let those other people try it first and see if that even increases their chances of survival and all"Dec 29 06:14
DaemonFC[m]They buy food and let it spoil and there went hundreds or thousands of dollars that they would have had to pay the rent.Dec 29 06:14
schestowitzAnd yes, I know that if too few people take the vaccines it reduces the overall effect ("herd immunity" in the VACCINE sense, not the nihilist sense of Trump and his "HERD")Dec 29 06:15
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: hundreds or thousands of dollars?Dec 29 06:15
schestowitzwait, how MUCH food fits in that garage?Dec 29 06:15
schestowitzsurely a roomfull of normal foods like sugar would not cost more than several thousandsDec 29 06:16
schestowitzand under the bed just hundredsDec 29 06:16
schestowitzpeople can do better things to assure personal security in Western societiesDec 29 06:22
schestowitzfood hoarding isn't the immediate need in most casesDec 29 06:22
schestowitzas with some other goods you can get food from neighbours or other peopleDec 29 06:23
schestowitzeven if prices soarDec 29 06:23
schestowitzYou'd then have to worry about break-ins as wellDec 29 06:23
schestowitzso people in the US stockpile ammo and firearmsDec 29 06:23
schestowitzthose are a lot more effective at forcibly taking food from other peopleDec 29 06:24
schestowitzalso, rich nations stockpile foodDec 29 06:24
schestowitzat a federal levelDec 29 06:24
schestowitzstate levelDec 29 06:24
schestowitzso they can always resort to emergency rationingDec 29 06:24
schestowitzwith martial law and military intervention inland to keep the hooligans downDec 29 06:25
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Under two twin sized beds, under a king bed, in the garage, and an entire Cadillac trunk.Dec 29 06:31
schestowitzbut "hundreds or thousands of dollars"?Dec 29 06:32
DaemonFC[m]So even if it was cheap canned veggies, pantry staples, and stuff, yes, perhaps thousands of dollars.Dec 29 06:32
schestowitzI assume canned, but you mentioned sugarDec 29 06:32
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, sugar isn't terribly expensive.Dec 29 06:32
DaemonFC[m]Maybe two bucks for each 4 pound bag.Dec 29 06:32
schestowitzcanned vegs alsoDec 29 06:32
DaemonFC[m]Canned vegetables? well, she doesn't buy genericDec 29 06:33
schestowitza whole BOX of them would be about 20 dollarsDec 29 06:33
DaemonFC[m]And she shopped at Marsh.Dec 29 06:33
schestowitzso 10 boxes under a bed... maybe 200 dollarsDec 29 06:33
DaemonFC[m]So probably $1.50 per can maybe.Dec 29 06:33
DaemonFC[m]When it would have been 50-75 cents as generic, depending on the store.Dec 29 06:33
schestowitzstill, maybe 400 dollars worth under a bedDec 29 06:33
schestowitzand the car boot (trunk)Dec 29 06:33
DaemonFC[m]Okay, so probably closing in on a thousand dollars total over the years based on the amounts I heard of.Dec 29 06:34
DaemonFC[m]Still, god damn...Dec 29 06:34
schestowitzif you showed this in Tondo, they'd be furiousDec 29 06:34
schestowitzan aged person collecting food just to spoilDec 29 06:34
schestowitzand good food, tooDec 29 06:34
schestowitza lot of food is grown where people very old work the fieldsDec 29 06:34
schestowitzand still cannot feed themselvesDec 29 06:35
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I go through the Walmart buying last day meat and dented cans and bags of flour and sugar they had to tape shut.Dec 29 06:35
schestowitzWalmart is the future of the USDec 29 06:35
schestowitza bunch of people fighting over cans and bagsDec 29 06:35
schestowitzand a few oligarchs running the food walmartDec 29 06:36
schestowitzand the data walmart (amazon)Dec 29 06:36
schestowitzthe OS walmartDec 29 06:36
schestowitzsearch walmartDec 29 06:36
DaemonFC[m]Maricel had an order for three pair of Apple airpods or whatever they call them.Dec 29 06:36
DaemonFC[m]$600 worth of earbuds.Dec 29 06:36
schestowitzbasically government franchisesDec 29 06:36
schestowitzmonopoliesDec 29 06:36
schestowitzunless you work for (with) them, you're finishedDec 29 06:36
schestowitzand they won't careDec 29 06:36
DaemonFC[m]I told Mandy let someone else take it out to her and don't go out there until she's gone.Dec 29 06:36
schestowitz"line up at walmart for your ration"Dec 29 06:36
schestowitz[06:36] <DaemonFC[m]> Maricel had an order for three pair of Apple airpods or whatever they call them.Dec 29 06:37
schestowitzthis is classyDec 29 06:37
schestowitzthey don't even own a houseDec 29 06:37
schestowitzit's mortgagedDec 29 06:37
schestowitzthe bank owns itDec 29 06:37
schestowitzbut it's about keeping up appearanceDec 29 06:37
DaemonFC[m]Don't forget came to foreclose on it.Dec 29 06:37
DaemonFC[m]Sued them. Settled out of court.Dec 29 06:37
schestowitzclassic Filipino mindset, not limited to .ph BTWDec 29 06:37
schestowitz"I don't have a toilet"Dec 29 06:38
schestowitz"but... I have IPHONE!!"Dec 29 06:38
schestowitz"I am.... smart and rich"Dec 29 06:38
schestowitz(BTW, the 'iPhone is on monthly installments... so you don't own that either ;-) )Dec 29 06:38
schestowitzI see lots of these fools with their "Doctor [sic] Dre" BS "beats"Dec 29 06:39
schestowitzto show they can afford the overhyped brandDec 29 06:39
DaemonFC[m]I just bought my phone with cash.Dec 29 06:39
schestowitzyou pay for marketing of this "made in China" plastic crapDec 29 06:39
schestowitzand then you have some old phone with nothing but lousy, lossy mp3 and headphones jack on itDec 29 06:39
schestowitzso you get no benefits out of better-quality headphones anywayDec 29 06:40
schestowitzbut these people are so "smart" they don't even know anything about audio and hi-fiDec 29 06:40
schestowitzthe important thing is that each ear of yours says "b" on it (in lowercase, "beats")Dec 29 06:40
schestowitzso people know, "I can afford!"Dec 29 06:40
schestowitzthey'd be much better off buying something like a Raspberry Pi (basically a PC!) with that moneyDec 29 06:41
schestowitz[06:39] <DaemonFC[m]> I just bought my phone with cash.Dec 29 06:41
schestowitzfunny you mention itDec 29 06:41
schestowitzin my personal blog I wrote about it a decade agoDec 29 06:41
DaemonFC[m]Because the iPhone is like 4 times as expensive as a really capable Android phone.Dec 29 06:42
schestowitzI tried to survey shops around here, finding out which shops still allowed itDec 29 06:42
schestowitzsome shops here no longer accept cashDec 29 06:42
DaemonFC[m]But the Microsoft nagware is still after me.Dec 29 06:42
schestowitzinc. some stores that sell phonesDec 29 06:42
DaemonFC[m]When I open my photo gallery, there's an occasional plea to sign up for Onedrive and you can select now or later, and it reminds you in a few weeks to sign up for Onedrive.Dec 29 06:42
schestowitziPhone is just a brand and digital 'store' with an inferior (limited) selection of "apps" compared to AndroidDec 29 06:43
schestowitzMicrosoft works for the US governmentDec 29 06:43
schestowitznot sending a copy of all your photos to Clown Computing is an act of domestic terrorism for sureDec 29 06:43
schestowitznext thing you know a DC in Nashville blows up and the FBI, without even knowing who did this, decides it must be some crank who opposes 5G based on a conspiracy theory like "5G causes coronavirus"Dec 29 06:44
schestowitznew fud just bumped up https://threatpost.com/pgminer-monero-mining-botnet/162209/Dec 29 06:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PGMiner, Innovative Monero-Mining Botnet, Surprises Researchers | ThreatpostDec 29 06:45
schestowitzthis past hourDec 29 06:45
schestowitzso you can misconfigure things to let intruders inDec 29 06:45
schestowitznot a postgres issueDec 29 06:46
schestowitznot a linux issueDec 29 06:46
schestowitzbut no coverage about NSA back doorsDec 29 06:46
schestowitzthat doesn't matter, does it?Dec 29 06:46
schestowitzfor sites like "Threatpost"Dec 29 06:46
schestowitzThe threat is not back doorsDec 29 06:46
schestowitzit's sysadmins who are poorly trainedDec 29 06:46
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The puff pieces actually reveal how little vision Bill Gates had.Dec 29 06:51
DaemonFC[m]He was opposed to the Xbox.Dec 29 06:51
schestowitzBill Gates and vision?Dec 29 06:52
schestowitzHe had schemesDec 29 06:52
DaemonFC[m]Hard sell to get him to approve it.Dec 29 06:52
schestowitznot visionDec 29 06:52
DaemonFC[m]THey had to get that one past him and he almost blocked it.Dec 29 06:52
schestowitzhow to kill competitors, that was the priorityDec 29 06:53
DaemonFC[m]Now they say it's one of their highest performing business units.Dec 29 06:53
schestowitzthey might just lieDec 29 06:53
schestowitzxbox lost billionsDec 29 06:53
DaemonFC[m]He almost cost them something that outperforms Windows or Office, for crying out loud.Dec 29 06:53
schestowitzthe earlier modelsDec 29 06:53
schestowitznot sure about the latestDec 29 06:53
schestowitzbut I doubt it sells too well, eitherDec 29 06:53
schestowitzstudios bought by the xbox unit were shut downDec 29 06:54
schestowitzlike several we wrote aboutDec 29 06:54
DaemonFC[m]They spun off Bungie into its own company again.Dec 29 06:54
schestowitzso waste of moneyDec 29 06:54
DaemonFC[m]They're doing games for the Playstation as well now like Destiny.Dec 29 06:54
schestowitzbuying, killing, then letting goDec 29 06:54
schestowitzminecraft... one heck of a waste of money?Dec 29 06:54
schestowitzdid they ever get anything out of it?Dec 29 06:54
DaemonFC[m]It's in the Windows Store.Dec 29 06:54
schestowitzjust because they make games doesn't mean they profitDec 29 06:55
DaemonFC[m]They have a Windows 10 special edition of Minecraft.Dec 29 06:55
schestowitzthe US taxpayers bailed out disneyDec 29 06:55
schestowitzand yet they made many moviesDec 29 06:55
DaemonFC[m]PPP loans, unemployment benefits for the workers, etc. I guess.Dec 29 06:55
schestowitzUS propaganda to disseminate worldwide for "hegemony"Dec 29 06:55
DaemonFC[m]The Disney reopening was a disaster.Dec 29 06:55
DaemonFC[m]Predictably. And yet they tried to open the theme parks anyway.Dec 29 06:55
schestowitzanyway, I'm not blindly buying into this whole "xbox success" BSDec 29 06:56
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/04/15/modern-sweatshops/Dec 29 06:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Enabling® Slavery™ and Original Xbox Live Dies | TechrightsDec 29 06:56
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/XBox_Reality_LogDec 29 06:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | XBox Reality Log - TechrightsDec 29 06:56
schestowitzbe careful not to repeat Microsoft liesDec 29 06:56
schestowitzXbox is NO success storyDec 29 06:56
schestowitzthey were losing billions last time I checkedDec 29 06:57
schestowitzMANY businesses run at a lossDec 29 06:57
schestowitzwhere do you think 27 TRILLIONS (soon more) dollars end up?Dec 29 06:57
schestowitzSome people pocket that money, taxpayers just foot the bill by promising to pay that back in the futureDec 29 06:57
schestowitzthey're done looting the capitalDec 29 06:58
schestowitzand to maintain a broken system they not loot FUTURE (or prospective, might not even exist, i.e. default/bankruptcy/insolvency) capitalDec 29 06:58
schestowitz s/not/nowDec 29 06:58
DaemonFC[m]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-overrides-trump-veto-of-defense-bill/ar-BB1ciF9I?OCID=ansmsnnews11Dec 29 06:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | House overrides Trump veto of defense billDec 29 06:59
schestowitzyou get 'news' from Microsoft now?Dec 29 06:59
schestowitzCome on.Dec 29 06:59
schestowitzCan't be serious...Dec 29 06:59
DaemonFC[m]This was dumb. He cost the Senate a day of floor time that they could have been confirming judges with.Dec 29 06:59
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Startpage news.Dec 29 06:59
schestowitzMicrosoft 'News' (fired workers this year BTW) celebrating military budgetDec 29 06:59
DaemonFC[m]Links to MSN sometimes.Dec 29 07:00
schestowitzendless money, some of it ending in Microsoft's bank accountDec 29 07:00
schestowitzstartpage is spywareDec 29 07:00
schestowitzanywayDec 29 07:00
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The Microsoft News app in Windows 10 has ads, but the same stories show up on MSN where the ad blocker works.Dec 29 07:00
DaemonFC[m]Most of the built-in apps can be removed, and few are worth keeping around.Dec 29 07:01
schestowitzcnn, msn etc. are rarely accurate newsDec 29 07:01
schestowitzit's curated for and by the ownersDec 29 07:01
schestowitzBTW, it's not a "defense bill"Dec 29 07:01
schestowitzthere's lots more in there and it's war, not defenseDec 29 07:01
schestowitzor imperialismDec 29 07:01
DaemonFC[m]They finally overrode something, and it was this.Dec 29 07:01
schestowitzcalling it  "defense bill" misleads the readerDec 29 07:01
schestowitzas they wish, obviously...Dec 29 07:01
schestowitzthis military budget is monopoly enablerDec 29 07:02
schestowitzThe USA is finished for ordinary peopleDec 29 07:02
DaemonFC[m]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_DefenderDec 29 07:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Microsoft Defender - WikipediaDec 29 07:02
schestowitzall they have left, more of them over time, is expired food under the bedsDec 29 07:03
DaemonFC[m]I don't get why Microsoft bought GIANT if they were just going to completely rewrite the whole application.Dec 29 07:03
schestowitzthe country's capital is now exclusively controlled by very few familiesDec 29 07:03
schestowitzit's like Russia (post-USSR fall)Dec 29 07:03
schestowitzI know someone who works on that programDec 29 07:03
schestowitzI don't even know if those things are profitableDec 29 07:03
schestowitzthey try to sell it for Linux nowDec 29 07:04
schestowitznot a good signDec 29 07:04
schestowitzit means they cannot sell it due to lack of x-platform supportDec 29 07:04
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schestowitz"Windows Defender was initially based on GIANT AntiSpyware, formerly developed by GIANT Company Software, Inc.[7] The company's acquisition was announced by Microsoft on December 16, 2004"Dec 29 07:05
schestowitz"Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products. It's not a bad product, but bits and pieces are missing."Dec 29 07:05
schestowitzhttp://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39286351,00.htmDec 29 07:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Technology News, Analysis, Comments and Product Reviews for IT Professionals | ZDNetDec 29 07:05
schestowitzlink is broken nowDec 29 07:06
schestowitzthat was a quote from Arno Edelmann, Microsoft's European business security product managerDec 29 07:06
schestowitz"Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products"Dec 29 07:06
schestowitzThat's Bill's "genius"Dec 29 07:06
schestowitzwho needs to create something?Dec 29 07:06
schestowitzit's not like he could write decent codeDec 29 07:06
schestowitzhe's a lousy and corrupt business personDec 29 07:06
schestowitzwho bribes media to paint him as "geek"Dec 29 07:06
schestowitzZuckerberg was a geekDec 29 07:07
schestowitzan evil one nonetheless as it turned out, even in early college daysDec 29 07:07
schestowitzBill was never a geekDec 29 07:07
schestowitzhe just pretended to be oneDec 29 07:07
DaemonFC[m]The other antivirus companies were pretty pissed off.Dec 29 07:10
DaemonFC[m]They still include trialware with most new PCs and try to pressure you into buying it, not realizing that it doesn't work much better.Dec 29 07:11
DaemonFC[m]Would have been nice if Immigration could have scheduled this appointment a couple months later.Dec 29 07:12
schestowitzhttps://www.dailyfreeman.com/news/national/suspect-in-bowling-alley-shooting-served-in-afghanistan/article_90b6b9d5-5bbf-5fc2-b924-c9b62b9ec4fa.htmlDec 29 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lawyer: Soldier charged in Rockford shooting may have PTSD | National | dailyfreeman.comDec 29 07:13
DaemonFC[m]I won't have filed our income taxes by the time of our meeting, so I just wrote in the comments that we haven't filed 2020's yet and would do so no later than the IRS deadline of April 15th, 2021.Dec 29 07:13
schestowitz"served"Dec 29 07:13
schestowitzoccupiedDec 29 07:13
schestowitzthose people serve a corporate empire, at bestDec 29 07:13
schestowitzthe conditions are made to cause them to have to do itDec 29 07:13
schestowitzand then they come back home and spread bulletsDec 29 07:14
schestowitzand they blame "PTSD"Dec 29 07:14
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, they make it so there are few jobs that you can get fresh out of high school anymore.Dec 29 07:14
DaemonFC[m]Then it pressures you to sign up for the military.Dec 29 07:14
schestowitzyeahDec 29 07:14
schestowitzserves the model of the oligarchsDec 29 07:15
schestowitzand keep college priced out of reachDec 29 07:15
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I was considering telling immigration that I have no Earthly idea what to do with all of this money in the savings account until we know whether Mandy can stay or not.Dec 29 07:15
DaemonFC[m]But I plan to open him a Roth IRA if they approve his case.Dec 29 07:15
schestowitzif you "serve" (the oligarchs, by killing loads of people abroad), we MIGHT give you a diploma and you MIGHT find a jobDec 29 07:15
schestowitz(if your brain still works OK after butchering people)Dec 29 07:15
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It shocks me that most people have nothing in savings, at all.Dec 29 07:16
schestowitzahDec 29 07:16
schestowitztell me about itDec 29 07:16
DaemonFC[m]It's not always because they don't have a good job or something.Dec 29 07:16
schestowitzit's phrased wrong, RyanDec 29 07:16
schestowitzask it differentlyDec 29 07:16
schestowitzhow many people do NOT have debtDec 29 07:16
kingoffrance^Dec 29 07:16
kingoffranceyepDec 29 07:16
schestowitzin your country I reckon only some very old peopleDec 29 07:16
schestowitzthose with a houseDec 29 07:16
schestowitzand used-to-have jobsDec 29 07:16
schestowitzor pensionsDec 29 07:16
DaemonFC[m]We don't have debt.Dec 29 07:16
kingoffranceits also velocity to them, they consider it a good thing to some extent things move; savings just sitDec 29 07:17
schestowitzthe younger ones have mortgagesDec 29 07:17
DaemonFC[m]I had a lot before the bankruptcy though.Dec 29 07:17
kingoffrancesome of it is purposely designed to make things moveDec 29 07:17
DaemonFC[m]That was mostly because of dickhead.Dec 29 07:17
schestowitzthe even younger ones loan through 'credit' cardsdDec 29 07:17
schestowitzthey don't even manage to get a mortgage approved by a bank yetDec 29 07:17
kingoffranceits somewhat considered more social to not have savingsDec 29 07:17
schestowitz[07:16] <DaemonFC[m]> We don't have debt.Dec 29 07:17
schestowitzYou had it and canceled itDec 29 07:17
kingoffrancesavings is a guy who doesnt have to work; guy who doesnt have to work is not fairDec 29 07:18
schestowitzyou never paid it back, you filed for bankruptcy to annul about $100,000 in debtDec 29 07:18
kingoffrancenot pulling their weight etc.Dec 29 07:18
schestowitzhow you racked up THAT much in debt in your mid 30s.... who knows...Dec 29 07:18
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Correct, and $20,000 was a car in another state that John got.Dec 29 07:18
DaemonFC[m]And the rest was mostly legal expenses, living on one income while Immigration wouldn't allow Mandy to work, and medical bills.Dec 29 07:19
schestowitzhttps://purpleidea.com/blog/2020/12/28/working-at-amazon/Dec 29 07:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Working at Amazon - https://purpleidea.com/Dec 29 07:19
schestowitzkingoffrance: read thisDec 29 07:19
schestowitzplanet fedora yesterdayDec 29 07:19
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I quit paying on the car as soon as the plea agreement was negotiated.Dec 29 07:19
schestowitzafter leaving red hat (IBM) he lived on savingsDec 29 07:19
schestowitzwhile still asking people to sponsor him/donateDec 29 07:19
DaemonFC[m]Then I stopped paying and drove it around for a while because I didn't need John to shut up anymore.Dec 29 07:19
schestowitzand after they pay this SAVER he takes a job for BEZOSDec 29 07:20
schestowitzthat's like those 'nonprofits' who ask you to donateDec 29 07:20
schestowitzand then they announce Google becomes a sponsorDec 29 07:20
schestowitzor worse -- MicrosoftDec 29 07:20
DaemonFC[m]We were going under fast, schestowitz I had paid the hotel up as much as I could and then used cash on hand to keep paying them.Dec 29 07:20
schestowitzand you just pause there and think, "wth? I paid this bugger and then I'm just one of GAFAM?"Dec 29 07:20
schestowitzSFC, OSI etc. do thisDec 29 07:20
DaemonFC[m]It was sheer luck that Mandy got his work authorization before the money ran out for real that time.Dec 29 07:21
schestowitzsome people DONATED to the LF ^_^ ^_^ ^_^Dec 29 07:21
schestowitzMaybe some people STILL doDec 29 07:21
schestowitzor paid commissions with their plastic card purchasesDec 29 07:21
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: About $35,000 of that debt was zombie.Dec 29 07:21
DaemonFC[m]Hospital bills I had racked up years ago and walked away and nobody sued.Dec 29 07:22
DaemonFC[m]Things like that.Dec 29 07:22
schestowitzwho lost the money then?Dec 29 07:22
schestowitzthat you never paid back?Dec 29 07:22
DaemonFC[m]Theoretically, someone who paid their hospital bill.Dec 29 07:22
schestowitzgreat system you got thereDec 29 07:23
schestowitzmaybe nationalise the buggerDec 29 07:23
DaemonFC[m]Factually, they just make up obscene numbers and don't explain how they arrived at those figures.Dec 29 07:23
schestowitzand actually look after people's healthDec 29 07:23
schestowitzseems like hospitals there become banksDec 29 07:23
schestowitzwith their DEBT COLLECTORSDec 29 07:23
schestowitzin-house or contractedDec 29 07:23
schestowitzcan a hospital initiative a foreclosure?Dec 29 07:24
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, they size you up for a lawsuit and if you're not worth it maybe they just don't ever sue you.Dec 29 07:24
schestowitzit's a strategyDec 29 07:24
schestowitznot good for people's seleepDec 29 07:24
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "can a hospital initiative a fore"> They can garnish your bank account and salary up to an amount allowed by state law.Dec 29 07:24
schestowitzbut helps squeeze money for "peace of mind"Dec 29 07:24
schestowitzalso keeps some lawyers employedDec 29 07:24
DaemonFC[m]That's usually what a court will allow.Dec 29 07:25
schestowitzeven if just for "being advisors"Dec 29 07:25
schestowitzso the hosptials work with the banksDec 29 07:25
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Illinois doesn't allow garnishments on bank accounts if it would bring you under $4,000 in total.Dec 29 07:25
schestowitzwhat next? Apple Store?Dec 29 07:25
schestowitzCan Apple Store also "garnish your bank account and salary up to an amount allowed by state law"?Dec 29 07:25
DaemonFC[m]And you can't garnish someone if it will bring them under $1,950 in take home pay per month.Dec 29 07:25
schestowitzIn disneyland USA I guess that might come nextDec 29 07:25
schestowitzso basically it keeps people from starvationDec 29 07:26
kingoffrancei dont follow these things https://www.bankrate.com/banking/federal-reserve/how-negative-interest-rates-work/  but i think they would love thatDec 29 07:26
schestowitzbut not homelessnessDec 29 07:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Negative Interest Rates: Definition and How They Work | BankrateDec 29 07:26
schestowitzand then of course you can "JOIN THE ARMY" and "serve"Dec 29 07:26
schestowitzkingoffrance: we have that alreadyDec 29 07:27
schestowitzit's called inflationDec 29 07:27
kingoffranceyep; its just the next level; they want "action"Dec 29 07:27
DaemonFC[m]Social Security can't be garnished, but only two month's worth in a bank account is protected by federal law.Dec 29 07:27
schestowitzbanks here don't give even 1% interest ratesDec 29 07:27
DaemonFC[m]So time for cash in a cigar box.Dec 29 07:27
schestowitznot even if you lock an account down for YEARSDec 29 07:27
schestowitzit's just a blackmailing tacticDec 29 07:27
schestowitzlike the vaccine tacticsDec 29 07:27
schestowitzwon't participate in pfizer trial? CANNOT TRAVELDec 29 07:28
schestowitzof course the super-rich have their own 'banks' and offshore accountsDec 29 07:28
schestowitzso all those things don't affect themDec 29 07:28
schestowitzthey profit from 'business' like "speculation on X"Dec 29 07:28
schestowitzwhere X can be "priced of food to go up in Africa"Dec 29 07:28
schestowitzor X="water to become scarce"Dec 29 07:28
schestowitz[07:27] <DaemonFC[m]> So time for cash in a cigar box.Dec 29 07:29
schestowitzThey try to cancel cashDec 29 07:29
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/12/26/covid19-boxing-day/Dec 29 07:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Boxing People | TechrightsDec 29 07:29
schestowitze.g. artificially limited the money supply or cash in circulation Dec 29 07:29
schestowitzand changing that money/bartering oftenDec 29 07:30
schestowitzso you need to hop from one version to the next or the value will diminishDec 29 07:30
schestowitzin India they went a step aheadDec 29 07:30
schestowitzthey basically didn't give people a change to deposit cashDec 29 07:30
schestowitzthey just canceled lots of itDec 29 07:30
schestowitzand then said this cash was just "crime" anywayDec 29 07:30
schestowitzso people who saved physical money saw their savings canceledDec 29 07:31
kingoffrancei think someone in here posted the credit scores tied to search historyDec 29 07:31
schestowitzthe "going  digital" thing there is Modi/Gates pushing for surveillance monopoliesDec 29 07:31
kingoffranceyes, they dont want that turned around on themDec 29 07:31
schestowitzI did, yesDec 29 07:31
kingoffrancei can only trust bank/business/whoever if i have all their employees search historyDec 29 07:31
kingoffrancedo it to them, they will 180Dec 29 07:31
kingoffrancethey dont want to live under the systems they create for everyone elseDec 29 07:31
schestowitzThere is also this https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/the-us-government-admits-to-using-the-patriot-act-to-collect-web-browsing-information/Dec 29 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | The US government admits to using the Patriot Act to collect web browsing informationDec 29 07:32
kingoffrancetheyve got a way of exempting themselves first, and then come up with great ideas for everyone elseDec 29 07:32
schestowitzI think you allude to IMF (more recent) https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/imf-suggests-that-your-credit-score-could-be-based-on-your-internet-history/Dec 29 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | IMF suggests that your credit score could be based on your internet historyDec 29 07:33
kingoffranceyeahDec 29 07:33
schestowitzwell, the resistance is brewingDec 29 07:33
schestowitzCOVID is a symptomDec 29 07:33
schestowitzthere will be major change, but it won't be prettyDec 29 07:34
schestowitzthe media will take its owners' sideDec 29 07:34
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: can you read an IBM article I did?Dec 29 07:34
schestowitzit's short, 2 parasDec 29 07:34
DaemonFC[m]Yeah.Dec 29 07:36
Techrights-seclittle memntion of the copyright grab in the "stimulus" bill.Dec 29 07:36
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: thanks! http://techrights.org/2020/12/29/ibm-diversity/Dec 29 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Likes to Speak About Diversity in Order to Distract or Confuse People About IBM’s Past and Present | TechrightsDec 29 07:37
schestowitzthere's a video there too in case you are interestedDec 29 07:37
Techrights-sechttps://www.cnx-software.com/2020/12/28/gpio-screw-terminal-hat-for-raspberry-pi-adds-leds-and-gpio-markings/Dec 29 07:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | GPIO screw terminal HAT for Raspberry Pi adds LEDs and GPIO markingsDec 29 07:38
DaemonFC[m]Looks good.Dec 29 07:44
schestowitzcheersDec 29 07:45
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: A lot of the proposals that ended up in Fedora 33 seem to be working out well, in practice.Dec 29 07:45
DaemonFC[m]I was surprised at just how well the kind of stuff Linux crams into the swap compresses.Dec 29 07:45
DaemonFC[m]Windows too, for that matter.Dec 29 07:45
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schestowitzif RAM is abundant... why compress?Dec 29 07:46
schestowitzit would surely have a performance toolDec 29 07:46
schestowitztollDec 29 07:46
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schestowitzeven if implemented at hardware levelDec 29 07:47
schestowitzwould take up more powerDec 29 07:47
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schestowitzfotr obese OSesDec 29 07:47
DaemonFC[m]Not much of one, really, with modern compression schemes.Dec 29 07:47
schestowitzcompression is ALWayS more costly than noneDec 29 07:47
schestowitzyou cannot change mathsDec 29 07:47
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't really get employed much until the system comes under pressure.Dec 29 07:47
schestowitzand store data in memory isn't a case of pay more to use moreDec 29 07:47
schestowitzswapless fineDec 29 07:48
DaemonFC[m]Chromebooks do it.Dec 29 07:48
DaemonFC[m]And they tend to use a Celeron or something.Dec 29 07:48
schestowitzbut if you don't use swap, you'd assume lots of ram anywayDec 29 07:48
schestowitzcompression won't be needed until it's running lowDec 29 07:48
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schestowitzchromebooks are OK hardwareDec 29 07:49
schestowitzwith s*** 'software' on itDec 29 07:49
DaemonFC[m]Linux needs better game controller support I've noticed.Dec 29 07:53
DaemonFC[m]The most common game controllers are too difficult to set up, and especially to get them recognized by Wine.Dec 29 07:53
DaemonFC[m]You'd think someone would be interested in fixing that one.Dec 29 07:53
DaemonFC[m]The Xbox 360 controller should be well supported, but it really isn't unless you're talking some titles on Steam.Dec 29 07:54
DaemonFC[m]I was glad to see that Sony is contributing a proper PS5 controller driver to Linux.Dec 29 07:55
DaemonFC[m]Because Ubuntu had updated the "dbx" (whatever that is), I had to reset the Secure Boot on the older laptop to factory default to get Fedora to boot up.Dec 29 07:57
DaemonFC[m]That was a known issue related to "boothole".Dec 29 07:57
scientesschestowitz, yes, zram is sillyDec 29 08:26
scientesbut i guess it is somewhat of an extension of overallocateDec 29 08:27
scienteswhich is a cornerstone of LinuxDec 29 08:27
scientesexcept it makes it woorseDec 29 08:27
scientesbecause you can OOM just by changing the ram you have already allocatedDec 29 08:27
scientes^^^Dec 29 08:27
scientesbecause not everything compresses the sameDec 29 08:27
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psydroidhttps://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-shareDec 29 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | StatCounter Global StatsDec 29 08:59
schestowitzwindows down sharplyDec 29 09:18
schestowitzwowDec 29 09:19
schestowitzlowest ever https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202011Dec 29 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | StatCounter Global StatsDec 29 09:19
schestowitzno december data yet https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202012Dec 29 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | StatCounter Global StatsDec 29 09:21
schestowitzoh, actuallty there isDec 29 09:22
schestowitz31.8% for WindowsDec 29 09:22
psydroidit will be interesting to see where things stand in a few months from nowDec 29 09:37
schestowitzI've made a quick video about itDec 29 09:53
schestowitzbbiabDec 29 09:53
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/12/29/windows-sliding/Dec 29 09:56
schestowitzhereDec 29 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | According to Statcounter, Microsoft Windows Reaches Lowest Market Share Since 1990s (Now Just 31.8%) | TechrightsDec 29 09:56
schestowitzreport typos if any foundDec 29 09:56
psydroidI haven't found anyDec 29 10:01
psydroidbut as you also put a link in the daily links to an article about Huawei selling laptops with their own CPUs and GNU/Linux a few days ago, it's becoming clear that Microsoft doesn't have the kind of influence over the computer industry that it used to have, so more companies are trying to break freeDec 29 10:05
Techrights-sechttps://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-11512-cia_vs_wikileDec 29 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Missing content type. Ignoring.Dec 29 10:10
Techrights-sechttps://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-11512-cia_vs_wikileaksDec 29 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.ccc.de - CIA vs. WikileaksDec 29 10:11
schestowitzpsydroid: yes, it is not just their MateBook anymoreDec 29 10:11
schestowitzmore product lines come with Debian-based Kylin or similarDec 29 10:11
schestowitzoh, DeepinDec 29 10:11
schestowitzI think Kylin it the one Canonical tried pulling off, with Ubuntu baseDec 29 10:11
schestowitzbrb, going to do a video on systemdDec 29 10:12
scientes A branch, a tag, and a reflog walk into a bar. The bartender says, "What is this, some sort of rebase?"Dec 29 10:55
scientesoh geezeDec 29 10:55
schestowitzget a rebate on a  forkDec 29 11:02
Techrights-sechttps://youtu.be/TqmM53W8nN0Dec 29 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unprecedented: MeRA25 MP has immunity stripped and is prosecuted for criticising the police | DiEM25 - YouTubeDec 29 11:26
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schestowitzhttps://youtu.be/ZSu4rCizyUMDec 29 12:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The FULL Snowden Interview - YouTubeDec 29 12:58
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scientesIf I was snowden I would be bored of saying the same thing in every interviewDec 29 13:08
XRevan86> In many Indochina dialects, "main" is an ethnic slur.Dec 29 14:08
XRevan86ouchDec 29 14:08
MinceRlolDec 29 14:08
scienteswhat about bottom?Dec 29 14:09
scientesheheheheheDec 29 14:09
MinceRXRevan86: where is that quote from?Dec 29 14:09
XRevan86MinceR: Pohoronix forumsDec 29 14:09
scientesXRevan86, try using C-langDec 29 14:09
XRevan86https://phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1229004?p=1229050#post1229050Dec 29 14:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Git 2.30 Released As More Projects Shift To "Main" As Their Default Branch Name - Phoronix ForumsDec 29 14:09
scientesXRevan86, ummmmm he is just trollingDec 29 14:10
scientesmain is a C thingDec 29 14:10
XRevan86scientes: of course, but still as valid as the other thing :)Dec 29 14:10
scientes virtuous victim construct. Dec 29 14:11
scientesI think too much thinking about this stuff is a mental diseaseDec 29 14:11
scienteseven if you claim to be trollingDec 29 14:11
MinceRXRevan86: thxDec 29 14:12
XRevan86scientes: People are annoyed by ridiculous changes made in the name of Justice.Dec 29 14:13
XRevan86Radicalisation or something.Dec 29 14:13
scientesyeah, but both seem to have no real problemsDec 29 14:13
XRevan86Meanwhile, in Russia: the criteria on what a Foreign Agent is have been widely extended to pretty much anyone.Dec 29 14:15
XRevan86Including individuals who do any sort of activism AND get *any* kind of help from abroad.Dec 29 14:16
scientesXRevan86, isn't that always the definition of *them*?Dec 29 14:16
XRevan86And also every quote from a Foreign Agent has to be marked as such under the penalty of law.Dec 29 14:17
scientesok, that is rediculousDec 29 14:17
scientes"You can't say anything simon said without first prefacing it with 'Simon said'"Dec 29 14:17
XRevan86oh good, meduza.io/en covered that: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/12/28/what-you-need-to-know-about-russia-s-updated-foreign-agent-lawsDec 29 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEDec 29 14:17
XRevan86Just As Bad As It soundsDec 29 14:18
scientesoh this is such typical stuffDec 29 14:19
*scientes had a fetish for laws which you are always on the wrong side ofDec 29 14:19
XRevan86Navalny's FBK couldn't shed the Foreign Agent status, but I guess that no longer matters: under the new laws they deserve that status fair and square.Dec 29 14:20
scientesXRevan86, but it is clear that anyone is not paid by the state is a foreign agent, until they are purged for being foreign agentsDec 29 14:22
XRevan86scientes: If you live in a village with no Internet and have no connections… to anything, you're safe.Dec 29 14:24
XRevan86If not, you just might face a felony.Dec 29 14:24
XRevan86(yes, there's a felony involved)Dec 29 14:24
scientesyeah, that's exactly why it is the aboveDec 29 14:24
scientesif you are a employee of the state you can, by definition, not be a foreign agentDec 29 14:25
scientesuntil you are purgedDec 29 14:25
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scienteshttps://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/12/15/they-found-a-foot-and-a-bottle-of-vodkaDec 29 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEDec 29 14:30
XRevan86Russia's consistently becoming more and more dystopian. Can't put that on the 2020 list as it's not just this year.Dec 29 14:34
XRevan86Although the Constitution amendments were a very big step.Dec 29 14:34
scienteshttps://meduza.io/impro/X8RBEBGqvYykNBaMawq6ApILgpvu_2OR6VXmG6mYgEE/fill/2670/0/ce/0/aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWR1/emEuaW8vaW1hZ2Uv/YXR0YWNobWVudHMv/aW1hZ2VzLzAwNi8y/NjMvOTcxL29yaWdp/bmFsLzkzTFFrcXg1/c0lRZl9wNlRqQlFu/MHcuanBn.jpgDec 29 14:35
scientesewwwwwwDec 29 14:35
scientesthey use webP cause they are idiotsDec 29 14:35
scientesand now firefox has to support the stupid formatDec 29 14:35
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/Dkd5xQE.pngDec 29 14:36
scientesbecause it is now impossible to stop the feature creepDec 29 14:36
XRevan86I wanted to defend WebP but after WebP 2 I don't bother.Dec 29 14:36
MinceRwhat is so bad about webp 2?Dec 29 14:36
XRevan86MinceR: WebP is already obsolete.Dec 29 14:37
MinceRicDec 29 14:38
XRevan86It just got some adoption and already being phased out.Dec 29 14:38
XRevan86that's just annoyingDec 29 14:38
scientesJPEG is a great formatDec 29 14:38
scienteshowever it looks like AVIF will have some successDec 29 14:40
scientesWebP had a shittily maintained shared library tooDec 29 14:40
scienteslike chromium people forked protobuf, andprotobuf is a google package!Dec 29 14:41
scientesthey are shit at maintaining softwareDec 29 14:41
XRevan86scientes: Just ask anyone who dealt with Android.Dec 29 14:41
XRevan86except MinceR, not MinceR :)Dec 29 14:41
scientesyeah, my android disk space analyzer thinks internal memory is sdcardDec 29 14:41
scientesand sdcard is internalDec 29 14:42
XRevan86scientes: No, I mean on the code level.Dec 29 14:42
scientesthat tooDec 29 14:42
scientesbut this is an example that bubbled upDec 29 14:42
scientes> Dec 29 14:44
scientesNote: Guetzli uses a significant amount of CPU time. You should count on using about 1 minute of CPU per 1 MPix of input image.Dec 29 14:44
scientesgeezeDec 29 14:44
scientespretty fucking uselessDec 29 14:44
scientesfor a few kbsDec 29 14:44
scientesNote: Guetzli uses a large amount of memory. You should provide 300MB of memory per 1MPix of the input image.Dec 29 14:44
scienteswhy?Dec 29 14:44
scientesjust use the 30% more spaceDec 29 14:44
MinceRand 30% more bandwidthDec 29 14:47
MinceRand 30% more space in everyone's cache :>Dec 29 14:47
MinceRis this for compression or decompression though?Dec 29 14:48
scientes<MinceR> https://i.imgur.com/Dkd5xQE.pngDec 29 14:48
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scientesniceDec 29 14:48
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scientesXRevan86, webp sucks https://wyohknott.github.io/image-formats-comparison/#abandonned-factory&webm=t&webp=tDec 29 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wyohknott.github.io | Image formats comparisonDec 29 14:50
scienteslook how good that image is with av1Dec 29 14:52
scientesyeah i'm convinced av1 is niceDec 29 14:54
scientesand noticably better than webp and jpegDec 29 14:54
scientesI am so tired of how all the "clouds" over-charge people for bandwidthDec 29 15:01
scientesmainly because it makes my internet experience considerably woorseDec 29 15:01
scienteswith news sites that lazy-load imagesDec 29 15:01
scientesYouTube clearly prooves that these "clouds" (including Google lol hypocricy) are lyingDec 29 15:02
scientesabout the cost of bandwidthDec 29 15:02
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scientesand half the cost of YouTube is the spyingDec 29 15:05
scientesinfrasturcutre-wiseDec 29 15:05
scienteslol Keith Alexander went from NSA -> Amazon.comDec 29 15:07
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20072521Dec 29 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4781048)Dec 29 15:16
scientesMinceR, XRevan86 can tell you what is wrong with thatDec 29 15:17
scientesbool in SQL: yes, no, maybeDec 29 15:17
MinceR:)Dec 29 15:17
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XRevan86scientes: Um, this is about SQL keywords typically being written in all capitalised letters.Dec 29 15:19
XRevan86SELECT foo FROM bar;Dec 29 15:19
XRevan86CREATE TABLE bar (foo BOOLEAN NOT NULL);Dec 29 15:20
XRevan86https://modern-sql.com/concept/three-valued-logic I'll throw this in just in case.Dec 29 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-modern-sql.com | Modern SQL: Three-Valued Logic (3VL) — Purpose, Benefits and Special CasesDec 29 15:24
schestowitz[14:34] <XRevan86> Russia's consistently becoming more and more dystopian. Can't put that on the 2020 list as it's not just this year.Dec 29 15:36
schestowitzI noticed daily covid deaths increasingDec 29 15:37
schestowitzhow many sputnik v jabs were administeredDec 29 15:37
schestowitzand.... any evidence they are effective?Dec 29 15:37
MinceR(cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/720092.jpgDec 29 15:39
schestowitzhehDec 29 15:41
schestowitzi had my nap alreadyDec 29 15:41
schestowitznow I'm good till 2am or something like thatDec 29 15:41
MinceR:)Dec 29 15:45
schestowitzany topic suggestions for video?Dec 29 15:45
schestowitzI did systemd this morningDec 29 15:45
schestowitzwe mostly wrap up topics we've long covered, I thinkDec 29 15:45
schestowitzthey will run out at some stageDec 29 15:45
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scientesMinceR, since when do they allow cats on jetBlue?Dec 29 16:41
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Dec 29 16:55
MinceRmaybe the human just took that mask homeDec 29 16:55
MinceRalso, it could be an emotional support catDec 29 16:55
scienteshow do you know its a human?Dec 29 17:01
scientesMaximum dimensions 2,147,483,647×2,147,483,647 pixelsDec 29 17:01
MinceRi assumed its speciesDec 29 17:01
scienteswhy do they even specify when its that big?Dec 29 17:01
MinceRthat's what she said.Dec 29 17:01
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/2007256Dec 29 17:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4780823)Dec 29 17:04
schestowitzXRevan86: "219,872 people died in Russia in November 2020. Compared to November 2019, the country recorded 78,541 excess deaths — an increase of 56 percent."  https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/12/28/rosstat-russia-recorded-nearly-79-000-excess-deaths-in-november-2020 Dec 29 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEDec 29 17:20
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20072372Dec 29 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4778368)Dec 29 17:22
scientesschestowitz, they are faking the numbersDec 29 17:29
scientesgarbage in garbage outDec 29 17:29
schestowitzquestion isDec 29 17:30
schestowitzwho fakes?Dec 29 17:30
schestowitzthe government?Dec 29 17:30
schestowitzthe truth might be somewhere in between AND...Dec 29 17:30
schestowitzthe source of this data will or should be the point of focusDec 29 17:30
schestowitzand whether that corresponds to death certsDec 29 17:30
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scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfUDec 29 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Darude - Sandstorm - YouTubeDec 29 17:40
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MinceR:)Dec 29 17:40
tr_guest|64021http://techrights.org/2020/11/17/real-rms/ was a great read, thank you very muchDec 29 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Real Richard Stallman is Not Coming Back | TechrightsDec 29 17:41
*MinceR settles for vrms insteadDec 29 17:41
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tr_guest|64021what does the v stand for!Dec 29 17:42
MinceRvirtualDec 29 17:42
tr_guest|64021I like itDec 29 17:42
tr_guest|64021have a nice dayDec 29 17:42
scientes100 years of FinlandDec 29 17:43
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scientesthey played that at the 100 year celebration of finlandDec 29 17:44
*scientes has vrms installedDec 29 17:45
scientesgreat appDec 29 17:45
schestowitzlolDec 29 17:48
schestowitzRMS and appDec 29 17:48
scientesbig reason I stick to debian actuallyDec 29 17:48
schestowitzcloudRMS: coming soon!Dec 29 17:48
schestowitzscientes: same hereDec 29 17:49
scientesthe debian FTP master is pretty serious about actually auditing new packagesDec 29 17:49
scientesand making sure non-free stuff does not sneak inDec 29 17:49
schestowitzcanonical became all about SNAPSDec 29 17:49
scientesunlike, lets say, ArchLinuxDec 29 17:49
schestowitzSkype, Spotify...Dec 29 17:49
scientesthose snap people are crazy tooDec 29 17:50
scientesthe developersDec 29 17:50
scientesI had one of them tell me that an internal sort was sillyDec 29 17:50
schestowitz“The more progressive elements among the kleptocracy that passes itself off as government in this country is aware that what would be truly needed for long-term social cohesion, and long-term successful governance, would involve a reversal of the ongoing stratification of society under monopoly capitalism” https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/12/28/when-the-landlords-say-fuck-you/Dec 29 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When the Landlords Say, "Fuck You" - CounterPunch.orgDec 29 17:51
schestowitzscientes: popey or another one?Dec 29 17:51
schestowitzthere's one with a long nameDec 29 17:51
schestowitzhard to pronounce Dec 29 17:51
scientesI dont rememberDec 29 17:51
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20072337Dec 29 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4776408)Dec 29 18:02
scientesMinceR, do you actually code?Dec 29 18:04
MinceRi doDec 29 18:04
scienteswe should make silicon chips that directly run javascriptDec 29 18:05
MinceRwhy?Dec 29 18:05
scienteswe wouldn't have to compile it that wayDec 29 18:05
scientesI mean, this was supposedly a good idea for javaDec 29 18:05
MinceRparsing javascript in hardware is going to be a colossal waste of die surfaceDec 29 18:06
MinceRit was for java bytecode, which is standardized, and it still seems to have failedDec 29 18:06
scientesit is just such an efficient languageDec 29 18:06
MinceRARM used to do that, then they replaced it with something elseDec 29 18:06
scientesI can't imagine implementing more advanced languages in anything elseDec 29 18:06
schestowitzjava?Dec 29 18:06
schestowitzlol, how often do we still use that on desktops?Dec 29 18:06
scientesjavascriptDec 29 18:07
schestowitzon debian for instance, on your daily thingDec 29 18:07
schestowitzeven worseDec 29 18:07
schestowitzhow much JS is on debian/kde?Dec 29 18:07
scientesobviously javascript is now the common demoninator lanaguageDec 29 18:07
MinceRthe only real use case i have for javascript is sandboxing codeDec 29 18:07
scientesand every language must be impemented in it and in relation to itDec 29 18:07
schestowitzMicrosoft is trying to hijack itDec 29 18:07
schestowitzvia LFDec 29 18:07
schestowitzwith "Open"JSDec 29 18:07
schestowitzSome Edleman shill from MicrosoftDec 29 18:07
scientesschestowitz, they already did that with VBScriptDec 29 18:07
schestowitzand with TypeScript and ShitHubDec 29 18:07
MinceRthey never give up, as long as they liveDec 29 18:08
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQDec 29 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up (Video) - YouTubeDec 29 18:08
MinceRthey tried lots of tactics against Linux as well, until one workedDec 29 18:08
schestowitzturns out he's a Man United fanDec 29 18:08
schestowitzI only found out last weekDec 29 18:08
schestowitzMinceR: they did not kill GNU, not yetDec 29 18:08
schestowitzthey throw many bucks at the 'problem'Dec 29 18:08
scientesGNUsteakDec 29 18:09
scientesGNUribDec 29 18:09
schestowitzI think we're one of the few sites left to still talk about itDec 29 18:09
scientesGNUliverDec 29 18:09
schestowitzFSF gave upDec 29 18:09
schestowitzafaictDec 29 18:09
scientesGNUtongueDec 29 18:09
psydroidit could be a thing for FPGAsDec 29 18:09
scientesGNUburgerDec 29 18:09
schestowitzwe need alternatives in the coding senseDec 29 18:09
schestowitzsomething to bypass the coupDec 29 18:09
MinceRschestowitz: IBM along with an army of corporate SJWs are killing GNUDec 29 18:09
MinceRthey took out FSF alreadyDec 29 18:10
schestowitznot just a Microsoft coup by the wayDec 29 18:10
scientesGNUroastDec 29 18:10
schestowitzIBM, Google, FB...Dec 29 18:10
scientesschestowitz, you can drink the blood without killing the hostDec 29 18:10
*psydroid cheers for Manchester United too in England at leastDec 29 18:10
schestowitzMinceR: some people become rich in the processDec 29 18:11
schestowitzbottom feedersDec 29 18:11
MinceRscientes: "i vill suck your bluhd"Dec 29 18:11
schestowitzOne even got a job at SFC last monthDec 29 18:11
psydroidin connection with the article about China (as well as South Korea and Russia) moving to GNU/Linux I also read this article (from an aggregator of soms kind) yesterday, detailing the multi-architecture strategy on the hardware side leaving only GNU/Linux as a viable operating system to run on the various processor implementationsDec 29 18:12
psydroidhttps://inf.news/tech/3175114486ac4e113e9f873162a2054d.htmlDec 29 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ https://inf.news/tech/3175114486ac4e113e9f873162a2054d.html )Dec 29 18:12
psydroidfull steam ahead over thereDec 29 18:13
schestowitz"Loongson 3A5000 is coming: 12nm process, performance improvement by 50%"Dec 29 18:17
schestowitzClownFlare linkDec 29 18:17
schestowitzthe site is infectedDec 29 18:17
psydroidit's a built-in "feature" of the web by nowDec 29 18:19
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schestowitzHund, Health, Minimalism https://hunden.linuxkompis.se/2020/12/29/i-have-no-sound-or-vibration-on-my-phone-and-its-great.htmlDec 29 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hunden.linuxkompis.se | I have no sound or vibration on my phone and it's great | HundDec 29 18:25
MinceR"i can't hear the people who call me on the phone and it's great"Dec 29 18:27
psydroid"I got rid of my phone and it's great"Dec 29 18:28
MinceR:>Dec 29 18:28
MinceR(cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/720037.jpgDec 29 18:32
schestowitz"In 1999, the programmer and activist Richard Stallman led one related to a lawsuit the company filed against Barnes & Noble to protect a patent covering “1-click” ordering, which he worried would stifle competition in e-commerce."  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/29/style/amazon-abstainers.htmlDec 29 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Life Without Amazon (Well, Almost) - The New York TimesDec 29 18:57
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MinceR(audio:important) https://youtu.be/ZyCCWuO0mQoDec 29 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4K Slow Motion Backdraft - YouTubeDec 29 19:16
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MinceR(audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/21/6336e9e4915f4d4c.mp4Dec 29 19:36
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schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/145947#comment-27638Dec 29 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Install WSL2 and Kali Linux on Windows 10 | Tux MachinesDec 29 19:53
schestowitzSome people don't seem to understand (maybe ZDNet) brainwash that this is an attack on GNU/LinuxDec 29 19:53
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Techrights-secHow did a Vista10 advertisement get into TM?Dec 29 19:56
Techrights-secDelete.Dec 29 19:56
Techrights-secOr redactDec 29 19:56
schestowitzusually he posts Ok things, hence I just left a comment as a "Strike 1" so to speak... sometimes it's enough to discourage BSDec 29 19:56
Techrights-secStill the post needs to be redacted or something.Dec 29 19:58
Techrights-secAt least remove the links.Dec 29 19:58
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/21/713cf39317f0ab5b.jpgDec 29 19:58
schestowitzcleverDec 29 20:05
schestowitzhow did he extrapolate the background?Dec 29 20:05
schestowitzoh, not the same forestDec 29 20:05
schestowitzhe probably took "close enough" stock photographyDec 29 20:05
Techrights-secOk, but no aspect of the post was related to GNU/Linux or even FOSS.Dec 29 20:08
Techrights-secNor was the underlying message, that of FOSS being not up to par.Dec 29 20:08
schestowitzif it happens again I'll bite instead of barkDec 29 20:09
schestowitzunder every rock lurks a scientesDec 29 20:38
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amreo[m]Hi. Today schestowitz has written "Dec 29 21:44
amreo[m]SuzhouMicrosoft is telling us (even confirming) Azure layoffs, in spite of Microsoft pretending to have found an alternative and promising future in Clown Computing. They literally join or come to our primary IRC channel, trying to interject damage-limiting PR." in a article about the china migration. Where can I find microsoft messages?Dec 29 21:44
amreo[m]In the new index page the post about the IRC log is missing. Is it a error?Dec 29 21:46
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amreo[m]And the link to the past postsDec 29 22:21
XRevan86MinceR: Bri'ish accent, yet Celsius is shown on the screen second. At least shown at all %).Dec 29 23:07
MinceRbri'ish people have moved to north america before :>Dec 29 23:08
XRevan86MinceR: Oh, and adopted all the great stuff there? I guess it's part of the naturalisation process. Maybe part of the immigration test.Dec 29 23:09
MinceRor made a video primarily targeting that marketDec 29 23:09
XRevan86How opportunistic.Dec 29 23:10
XRevan86> TEMP: barbecue hot / 288°F / 142°CDec 29 23:12
XRevan86fixed it thenDec 29 23:12
XRevan86just to keep things more familiar to the target audience %)Dec 29 23:13
MinceR:>Dec 29 23:13
XRevan86> It goes at least 40 feetDec 29 23:15
XRevan86I guess about 15 full legs?Dec 29 23:15
MinceRlolDec 29 23:15
XRevan86wait, I was looking at half a legDec 29 23:16
XRevan86about 7 legsDec 29 23:16
XRevan8627 elbowsDec 29 23:24
MinceRhow many knees?Dec 29 23:25
XRevan86It's a joint, a bit small.Dec 29 23:26
XRevan86MinceR: But I can tell you it's 160 palmsDec 29 23:29
MinceR(cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/719711.jpgDec 29 23:30
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CrystalMathit's about 25 meV outside nowDec 29 23:44
CrystalMathno, more like 24...Dec 29 23:46
CrystalMathit's 25.3 inside thoughDec 29 23:47
MinceRnot MeV?Dec 29 23:47
CrystalMathnopeDec 29 23:47
CrystalMathmillielectronvoltsDec 29 23:47
CrystalMathastronomers often use electrovolts to express temperatureDec 29 23:48
CrystalMaththough it's energyDec 29 23:48
MinceRicDec 29 23:49
MinceRweird customDec 29 23:49
CrystalMatha temperature (equivalent) of 25.3 meV Dec 29 23:49
CrystalMathis about 20°CDec 29 23:49
CrystalMathwhereas 24 meV is 11°CDec 29 23:49
CrystalMath20°C is very low, it's only capable of generating infraredDec 29 23:50
XRevan86MinceR: At least it's not football fields.Dec 29 23:52
CrystalMathMinceR: you would need 1240 meV to get photons of 1 micrometer to be sent out constantlyDec 29 23:53
CrystalMathhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_constantDec 29 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Boltzmann constant - WikipediaDec 29 23:54
CrystalMathit's 0.08617333262145 meV/KDec 29 23:55
CrystalMath0 Kelvin = kinetic energy 0 eVDec 29 23:57

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