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DaemonFC[m] | True | Sep 30 00:05 |
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DaemonFC[m] | California's new law banning gasoline cars is a real joke. | Sep 30 00:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | 15 years from now. So like, you just buy them as a used car. People will do that. | Sep 30 00:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | Doesn't solve a problem. | Sep 30 00:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think it's a fake out. | Sep 30 00:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | You know, Trump's going after their fuel economy law, so they are signing "voluntary agreements" with the manufacturers that implement them anyway. | Sep 30 00:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | This way if you don't all sign the agreement you're going to have your product banned. | Sep 30 00:07 |
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DaemonFC[m] | They can't approach it that way because courts would strike it down. | Sep 30 00:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | But they can change their minds once the manufacturers have all agreed to the California standards. | Sep 30 00:09 |
schestowitz | 15 is a long time | Sep 30 00:09 |
schestowitz | a lot can change in this period of time | Sep 30 00:09 |
schestowitz | wars, population crises, alternatives, either to tech or to the econpmy | Sep 30 00:10 |
schestowitz | funny when politicians set targets for 2050 | Sep 30 00:10 |
schestowitz | few of them will live until then | Sep 30 00:10 |
schestowitz | unless they're young politicians in their 40s | Sep 30 00:10 |
schestowitz | but they'll have retired by then | Sep 30 00:11 |
MinceR | that's why they set targets for 2050 | Sep 30 00:11 |
schestowitz | yup | Sep 30 00:11 |
schestowitz | the "one day" politicians | Sep 30 00:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | Or Biden can get in and restore the Obama-era plan. | Sep 30 00:11 |
schestowitz | "my grandkids will do what I was SUPPOSED to do" | Sep 30 00:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "but they'll have retired by then"> Mike Madigan. | Sep 30 00:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | He's been House Speaker in Illinois since 1980 except between 1995-1997 when the Republicans took the majority. | Sep 30 00:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | We just finished repealing some of the laws that they passed then, like the trigger law that would have made abortion illegal in Illinois if Roe v. Wade was reversed. | Sep 30 00:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: E-Verify is optional in Illinois but 85% of employers use it. | Sep 30 00:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | The state tried to ban it, but a federal court struck that down. | Sep 30 00:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think another approach shouldbe tried. | Sep 30 00:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | You want to use E-Verify? You can, but your taxes go up 33%. | Sep 30 00:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | Businesses do whatever's cheaper. | Sep 30 00:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Paying fines if the feds catch them employing undocumented immigrants would be cheaper than paying 1/3rd more corporate tax to the state. | Sep 30 00:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | If the courts review it again, it will be about state taxation authority, not banning E-Verify. | Sep 30 00:19 |
schestowitz | "Are leftists insane? - Should you vote?" | Sep 30 00:21 |
schestowitz | http://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol301-tales-from-the-crypt-bitcoin/ | Sep 30 00:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL301 | Tales from the Crypt: Bitcoin | Sep 30 00:21 | |
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smnthermes | https://archive.is/ZH1PX | Sep 30 00:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | Yuval Levental | Autism Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia | Sep 30 00:33 | |
smnthermes | Found this article mentioning TechRights | Sep 30 00:33 |
schestowitz | he wrote for us | Sep 30 00:34 |
schestowitz | e.g. http://techrights.org/2016/11/06/yuval-levental-on-hiring-program/ | Sep 30 00:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Grossly Exaggerates the Value of its Hiring Program for People with Autism, by Yuval Levental | Techrights | Sep 30 00:34 | |
schestowitz | a few more | Sep 30 00:34 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2016/12/17/bill-gates-and-donald-trump/ | Sep 30 00:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post on Bill Gates and Donald Trump | Techrights | Sep 30 00:34 | |
schestowitz | Related to http://techrights.org/2020/09/05/the-microsoft-rip-article/ | Sep 30 00:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Tragic Stories of Microsoft Mishandling People With Special Needs (to the Point Where Some Needlessly Die) | Techrights | Sep 30 00:34 | |
schestowitz | "Levental had an article published at Techrights.com referencing Microsoft's support for diversity in employment of Autistics" https://archive.is/ZH1PX#selection-923.0-923.124 | Sep 30 00:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | Yuval Levental | Autism Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia | Sep 30 00:36 | |
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schestowitz | he was also here in IRC on occasions, decent person... | Sep 30 00:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | nf | Sep 30 00:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think the cat was walking on my laptop again. | Sep 30 00:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | I hate this place. | Sep 30 00:56 |
MinceR | :3 | Sep 30 00:59 |
schestowitz | you still have a cat? | Sep 30 01:23 |
*schestowitz misses Jabba's photos | Sep 30 01:32 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Two cats. | Sep 30 01:33 |
schestowitz | ok | Sep 30 01:52 |
schestowitz | MinceR: DaemonFC[m] want to read the next article on IBM war on words? | Sep 30 02:11 |
schestowitz | the draft is ready now | Sep 30 02:12 |
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XRevan86 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&u=https%3A%2F%2Froskomsvoboda.org%2F62704%2F worst kind of person | Sep 30 03:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | Sep 30 03:00 | |
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schestowitz | XRevan86: Google censoring Russian media some more | Sep 30 03:03 |
schestowitz | in English | Sep 30 03:03 |
schestowitz | so all those Western whistleblowers who turn to Russian publishers... silenced | Sep 30 03:04 |
schestowitz | Google isn't hiding what it is anymore | Sep 30 03:04 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: speaking of censorship... | Sep 30 03:04 |
schestowitz | want to check my next post if I publish it prematurely? | Sep 30 03:04 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: Is this about RT? | Sep 30 03:04 |
schestowitz | No | Sep 30 03:04 |
schestowitz | beyond | Sep 30 03:04 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: I need sleep %). | Sep 30 03:05 |
schestowitz | Also https://communalnews.com/twitter-removes-russian-media-from-searches/ | Sep 30 03:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communalnews.com | Twitter Removes Russian Media from Searches - Communal News | Sep 30 03:05 | |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: Hard to sympathise here, they have it coming. | Sep 30 03:07 |
schestowitz | it starts like this | Sep 30 03:08 |
schestowitz | they did this to wikileaks too, allegedly | Sep 30 03:08 |
schestowitz | locked them out of accounts | Sep 30 03:08 |
schestowitz | made them hard to see/find | Sep 30 03:09 |
schestowitz | this helps criminals dodge evidence | Sep 30 03:09 |
schestowitz | twitter as a concept is bad | Sep 30 03:09 |
schestowitz | all social control media | Sep 30 03:09 |
schestowitz | no neutrality | Sep 30 03:09 |
schestowitz | we need rss feeds | Sep 30 03:09 |
schestowitz | each site to its own | Sep 30 03:09 |
schestowitz | with links between sites | Sep 30 03:09 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: want to read with me? | Sep 30 03:09 |
schestowitz | it's a draft, now done.. | Sep 30 03:10 |
schestowitz | I am asking a second person.. for this particular topic | Sep 30 03:10 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: O.K., bring it on. | Sep 30 03:10 |
schestowitz | as it's sensitive and I don't want to be blinded by own bias... | Sep 30 03:10 |
XRevan86 | But I'm not at my sharpest %). | Sep 30 03:10 |
schestowitz | OK, here we go: http://techrights.org/2020/09/29/saying-no-to-tyrants/ | Sep 30 03:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Learning to Say “No!” to Tyrants | Techrights | Sep 30 03:10 | |
schestowitz | about the substance as much as the English/grammar/typos | Sep 30 03:11 |
XRevan86 | Can I read Swedish? No, apparently, I can't. | Sep 30 03:11 |
Chaekyung | need something translated XRevan86 ? | Sep 30 03:12 |
XRevan86 | Chaekyung: The picture there is in a Scandinavian language. | Sep 30 03:12 |
schestowitz | Chaekyung: I used the image you posted | Sep 30 03:13 |
schestowitz | reused rather | Sep 30 03:13 |
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Chaekyung | uhm.. that's not Swedish | Sep 30 03:15 |
Chaekyung | Not even sure what language "lk vrees geen man" is | Sep 30 03:16 |
schestowitz | afraid of no man | Sep 30 03:16 |
XRevan86 | It's Dutch | Sep 30 03:18 |
XRevan86 | "ik" is actually a dead giveaway, but I got confused. | Sep 30 03:19 |
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XRevan86 | Wait, is "blackmail" actually targeted now or is that just arguing about the next logical step after "blacklist"? | Sep 30 03:23 |
schestowitz | it's targeted | Sep 30 03:23 |
schestowitz | afaik | Sep 30 03:23 |
schestowitz | one step at a time | Sep 30 03:23 |
schestowitz | even "crazy" and "lame" are targeted | Sep 30 03:24 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: Do you have sauce for "blackmail"? | Sep 30 03:24 |
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schestowitz | source? | Sep 30 03:26 |
schestowitz | scroll above | Sep 30 03:26 |
schestowitz | to around 10pm my time | Sep 30 03:26 |
schestowitz | I left that out from this article | Sep 30 03:26 |
schestowitz | it's in the IRC logs, which will be linked to in 4 hours or thereabouts, as usual | Sep 30 03:26 |
schestowitz | [22:46] <schestowitz> >> Blackmail was originally a term from the Scottish Borders | Sep 30 03:27 |
schestowitz | [22:46] <schestowitz> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Borders> meaning payments | Sep 30 03:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Scottish Borders - Wikipedia | Sep 30 03:27 | |
schestowitz | [22:46] <schestowitz> > rendered in exchange for protection from thieves and marauders.^[3] | Sep 30 03:27 |
schestowitz | [22:46] <schestowitz> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail#cite_note-merriam-webster.com-3>[7] | Sep 30 03:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Blackmail - Wikipedia | Sep 30 03:27 | |
schestowitz | [22:46] <schestowitz> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail#cite_note-West-7>[10] | Sep 30 03:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Blackmail - Wikipedia | Sep 30 03:27 | |
schestowitz | [22:46] <schestowitz> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail#cite_note-10> The "mail" part | Sep 30 03:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Blackmail - Wikipedia | Sep 30 03:27 | |
schestowitz | [22:46] <schestowitz> > of blackmail derives from Middle English /male/ meaning "rent or | Sep 30 03:27 |
schestowitz | [22:46] <schestowitz> > tribute".^[11] | Sep 30 03:27 |
XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/blackmail easier to look in Wiktionary | Sep 30 03:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | blackmail - Wiktionary | Sep 30 03:30 | |
XRevan86 | > Scots: "From black (“bad”) + mail (“rent”). " | Sep 30 03:30 |
*XRevan86 faints. | Sep 30 03:30 | |
XRevan86 | Cancel the Scottish people for being racist! All of them just to be sure. | Sep 30 03:31 |
XRevan86 | Stalin used to deport the nations that betrayed the ideals of the international. | Sep 30 03:32 |
*schestowitz searches google for "ibm blackmail" | Sep 30 03:32 | |
schestowitz | gets mostly PR spam | Sep 30 03:33 |
schestowitz | about how ibm tackles scams | Sep 30 03:33 |
schestowitz | https://www.thedrum.com/news/2018/07/17/ibm-sues-groupon-167m-alleging-patent-theft | Sep 30 03:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedrum.com | IBM sues Groupon for $167m alleging patent theft | The Drum | Sep 30 03:33 | |
schestowitz | techrights in page #1 of the results | Sep 30 03:34 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2018/07/26/software-patents-blackmail-by-microsoft-ibm/ | Sep 30 03:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Patent Trolls and IBM Against 35 U.S.C. § 101 and for Software Patents, Blackmail | Techrights | Sep 30 03:34 | |
schestowitz | https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectConsent?sessionId=3_cc-session_afe45fe5-c968-4a99-bd89-8b695176ec9d | Sep 30 03:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-consent.yahoo.com | HuffPost is now a part of Verizon Media | Sep 30 03:34 | |
schestowitz | it names blackmail | Sep 30 03:34 |
schestowitz | http://www.stlamerican.com/news/editorials/why-is-black-always-a-bad-word/article_9fdf3fd1-a263-536a-8b11-a80d4dcfe0b1.html | Sep 30 03:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why is ‘black’ always a bad word? | Editorials | stlamerican.com | Sep 30 03:35 | |
schestowitz | "GitHub to replace racially-loaded terms (master, slave, blacklist and ... negative (black magic, blackmail, blacklist) while everything white has a ..." | Sep 30 03:35 |
schestowitz | GitHub to replace racially-loaded terms (master, slave, blacklist and ... negative (black magic, blackmail, blacklist) while everything white has a ... | Sep 30 03:36 |
schestowitz | from discussion on MS ZDNet https://www.zdnet.com/article/github-to-replace-master-with-alternative-term-to-avoid-slavery-references/ | Sep 30 03:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub to replace "master" with alternative term to avoid slavery references | ZDNet | Sep 30 03:36 | |
schestowitz | https://dev.to/vnbrs/github-to-replace-racially-loaded-terms-master-slave-blacklist-and-whitelist-mnp | Sep 30 03:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev.to | GitHub to replace racially-loaded terms (master, slave, blacklist and whitelist) - DEV | Sep 30 03:36 | |
schestowitz | https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2020/07/13/linux_adopts_inclusive_language/ | Sep 30 03:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.theregister.com | Linus Torvalds banishes masters, slaves and blacklists from the Linux kernel, starting now • The Register Forums | Sep 30 03:37 | |
schestowitz | "Or to people failing to comprehend words like blacklist and ascribing some" | Sep 30 03:37 |
schestowitz | "No, there isn't. There is absolutely zero body count related to the terminology used in the Linux kernel. Or to people failing to comprehend words like blacklist and ascribing some non-existent racist connotation. Suggesting otherwise is the kind of idiotic nonsense that is rapidly propelling me along the road towards becoming an indifferent arsehole." | Sep 30 03:37 |
XRevan86 | > To call a Black person articulate or “well-spoken” is to suggest that you expect the opposite to be true. | Sep 30 03:38 |
XRevan86 | Good to know, I guess. Anything else? | Sep 30 03:38 |
XRevan86 | > Critics call casual usage of the term by non-Natives cultural appropriation. | Sep 30 03:39 |
XRevan86 | I wonder what neo-pagans think about that… | Sep 30 03:40 |
schestowitz | oh wow | Sep 30 03:42 |
schestowitz | then you start wondering why people stop talking to women | Sep 30 03:43 |
schestowitz | as it might be "harassing" them | Sep 30 03:43 |
schestowitz | if they don't want to speak but do not make it even known | Sep 30 03:43 |
schestowitz | for "fear" | Sep 30 03:43 |
schestowitz | and then the same for minorities | Sep 30 03:43 |
schestowitz | as you might offend them without realising it | Sep 30 03:43 |
schestowitz | that harms both minorities and women, who are actually a majority by the way (more of them than men) | Sep 30 03:44 |
schestowitz | nowadays merely staring at someone can be interpreted as racism and sexism | Sep 30 03:44 |
schestowitz | and frankly I cannot see how it helps when people become oversensitive to these things | Sep 30 03:44 |
schestowitz | it leads people to just not wish to associate with them | Sep 30 03:45 |
schestowitz | Even in the workplace that can be an issue | Sep 30 03:45 |
schestowitz | like being accused of "bullying a lady" | Sep 30 03:45 |
schestowitz | for merely talking down a stupid proposal | Sep 30 03:45 |
schestowitz | (that happens to come from - gasp - not a male) | Sep 30 03:45 |
schestowitz | You're more inclined to not resist bad proposal | Sep 30 03:46 |
schestowitz | as they might say it's construed as intolerance | Sep 30 03:46 |
schestowitz | example | Sep 30 03:46 |
schestowitz | LF Board member: let's move everything Linux to GitHub | Sep 30 03:46 |
schestowitz | Linus: no, GitHub exec, please let us keep our Git in our control | Sep 30 03:47 |
schestowitz | If he said that's a "stupid" idea | Sep 30 03:47 |
schestowitz | media might then spin that as "Linus calls woman stupid" | Sep 30 03:47 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: there have been issues with black and white list with interpretation due to different groups usages. Its like some of the problems with the word default where some setting so we are seeing more presets or factory presets being used instead of default. | Sep 30 03:50 |
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MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20011641 | Sep 30 11:45 |
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MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjHKnY2UwAARkF7.jpg:orig | Sep 30 11:53 |
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scientes | MinceR, oh that is great | Sep 30 12:15 |
scientes | and I even feel that way about Teddy Rosevelt | Sep 30 12:15 |
scientes | even though he had his fans | Sep 30 12:16 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: The quoter clearly alludes to Trump, but the US has no functioning democracy. | Sep 30 12:19 |
scientes | really? | Sep 30 12:19 |
scientes | actually, scratch that | Sep 30 12:19 |
MinceR | XRevan86: twitler was one step in breaking down the democracy in uhmerica | Sep 30 12:20 |
scientes | XRevan86, really? no functioning democracy? | Sep 30 12:20 |
MinceR | it's going to get worse soon, if they manage to get that fundamentalist on the supreme court | Sep 30 12:20 |
scientes | please shut up | Sep 30 12:20 |
XRevan86 | scientes: FPTP + the house of representatives + lack of control over voting = yes | Sep 30 12:20 |
*scientes is not even going to look up that acronym because he doesn't care | Sep 30 12:21 | |
MinceR | first past the post :> | Sep 30 12:21 |
scientes | that only scratches the surface | Sep 30 12:21 |
scientes | of the disfunction | Sep 30 12:21 |
MinceR | probably the worst way to vote | Sep 30 12:21 |
scientes | but more disfunction is better | Sep 30 12:21 |
scientes | it slows things down | Sep 30 12:21 |
scientes | and the slower it goes the lighter the fall is | Sep 30 12:22 |
scientes | but I don't think you can beat the CCCP on that one :) | Sep 30 12:22 |
MinceR | we get to watch :> | Sep 30 12:22 |
zoobab | patent maximalism dream of reverting Alice via a new member of SCOTUS, having a conservative majority | Sep 30 12:23 |
scientes | zoobab, none of those words mean anything to me | Sep 30 12:24 |
scientes | you can't issue patents if you don't have a government | Sep 30 12:24 |
scientes | one of my favorite pasttimes is exploiting the inability to detect sarcasm on the internet | Sep 30 12:25 |
scientes | it fits my humor style | Sep 30 12:26 |
scientes | hmm I installed a uyghur font and the mongolian stuff went from boxes with numbers in them, to just boxes | Sep 30 12:28 |
scientes | aparently there are "mongolian" fonts | Sep 30 12:34 |
scientes | so unicode daes Han unification, but decises mongolian, written in the uygher script, gets its own block? | Sep 30 12:34 |
scientes | yay, got font now | Sep 30 12:38 |
scientes | ᠮᠤᠩᠭᠤᠯ ᠤᠯᠤᠰ | Sep 30 12:38 |
scientes | interesting, it will print LTR in my IRC | Sep 30 12:39 |
scientes | heh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mongolian_wikipedia_preview.png | Sep 30 12:41 |
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scientes | yeah, not much precedent for web pages with virtical languages | Sep 30 12:41 |
MinceR | :) | Sep 30 12:41 |
scientes | and Japanese and Chinese switch to LTR | Sep 30 12:41 |
scientes | and Korea | Sep 30 12:41 |
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kingoffrance | slowing things down...seems like that means corporatocracy speeds up | Sep 30 13:37 |
kingoffrance | or do all the other non "gov" players just magically disappear? | Sep 30 13:38 |
kingoffrance | seems like it would create a power vacuum | Sep 30 13:38 |
kingoffrance | which will be filled | Sep 30 13:38 |
kingoffrance | by non "gov" entities | Sep 30 13:39 |
XRevan86 | scientes: It's not the surface, it's the underlying rotten layer. | Sep 30 13:56 |
XRevan86 | Can't have democracy without pluralism. | Sep 30 13:58 |
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oiaohm | kingoffrance: Really https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy is really a subform of Plutocracy. The reality is we don't really see full blown real world corporatocracy yet we hear the word thrown around alot. Closest example to full blow corporatocracy is really the insane world of ferengi in start treck done badly and the profit race in Time Jam: Valerian & Laureline done quite well to show the problems. | Sep 30 14:06 |
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oiaohm | kingoffrance: there is a true kind of modern example I missed for a Plutocracy that is really close to a Corporatocracy. Its the City of London voting rights of each company on what City of London will do is based on number of employees the company has in the city of london. | Sep 30 14:10 |
oiaohm | Yes you have no rights in the future of that place if you are not a company. | Sep 30 14:11 |
MinceR | https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/77902963/the-windows-xp-source-code-was-leaked-online#p77903099 | Sep 30 14:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boards.4channel.org | /g/ - >>The Windows XP source code was leaked online tod - Technology - 4chan | Sep 30 14:11 | |
kingoffrance | well trump made one comment at debate seemingly not comprehended | Sep 30 14:13 |
kingoffrance | 401ks are tied to stocks | Sep 30 14:13 |
kingoffrance | they have to bail them out | Sep 30 14:13 |
kingoffrance | else the 401ks tank | Sep 30 14:13 |
kingoffrance | due to repeal of glass-steagall | Sep 30 14:13 |
kingoffrance | so i would argue that is a distinction without a difference, plutocracy vs. corporatocracy, since that is how they define "the economy": are the stocks looking good? | Sep 30 14:14 |
schestowitz | covid will kill them before they reach that | Sep 30 14:14 |
schestowitz | trump will be on team covid | Sep 30 14:14 |
schestowitz | eugenics team | Sep 30 14:14 |
oiaohm | kingoffrance: City of London has a long history with horrible stocks things as well. | Sep 30 14:15 |
schestowitz | [12:23] <zoobab> patent maximalism dream of reverting Alice via a new member of SCOTUS, having a conservative majority | Sep 30 14:15 |
schestowitz | being 'conservative' does not necessarily imply that | Sep 30 14:16 |
schestowitz | it's not so much a 'wing' thing | Sep 30 14:16 |
schestowitz | Scalia was no massive fans of bad patents | Sep 30 14:16 |
schestowitz | he died, he was considered 'conservative' | Sep 30 14:16 |
MinceR | and so he died | Sep 30 14:16 |
schestowitz | *fan | Sep 30 14:16 |
schestowitz | MinceR: not a moment too soon | Sep 30 14:16 |
schestowitz | he was an arse | Sep 30 14:16 |
schestowitz | died in his sleep iirc | Sep 30 14:17 |
schestowitz | toad | Sep 30 14:17 |
MinceR | so many great arguments for abolishing the state | Sep 30 14:17 |
schestowitz | libertarians want that | Sep 30 14:19 |
schestowitz | some sects of those nuts anyway | Sep 30 14:19 |
schestowitz | not clear what they means | Sep 30 14:19 |
schestowitz | they float some concepts | Sep 30 14:19 |
schestowitz | indigenous people have no states in a real sense | Sep 30 14:19 |
schestowitz | and I don't envy their lifestyles | Sep 30 14:20 |
oiaohm | kingoffrance: Really there is a worse from of too big to fail in City of London history. There is a horrible cases of hey we will just kill the slaves and claim the insurance because we are too big to fail. | Sep 30 14:20 |
schestowitz | they die young while suffering, from things we can nowadays cure easily | Sep 30 14:20 |
MinceR | that's not a function of the state | Sep 30 14:21 |
schestowitz | cowboys don't work well | Sep 30 14:22 |
oiaohm | kingoffrance: really a fully focused Corporatocracy style in history would not care if they destroyed you 401ks as if you had no super you would have to work for the Companies for longer. | Sep 30 14:22 |
schestowitz | hospitals are large structures | Sep 30 14:22 |
schestowitz | and institutions with referrals to experts | Sep 30 14:22 |
schestowitz | so like I said, if you abolish the state, then you need to define the state and the process for removing it | Sep 30 14:22 |
schestowitz | towns and civilisations typically had something akin to state with chiefs and occupations, exchanges | Sep 30 14:22 |
MinceR | hospitals can operate as private organizations, for-profit or charity or even both | Sep 30 14:23 |
schestowitz | nomads with rifles also need to buy their ammo somewhere | Sep 30 14:23 |
schestowitz | they don't make their own gunpowders and bullet shells | Sep 30 14:23 |
schestowitz | (many libertarians envision them like this) | Sep 30 14:23 |
MinceR | there's nothing in them that needs you to accept a bunch of sociopaths as having the right to tell you what to believe and how to live your life | Sep 30 14:23 |
oiaohm | MinceR: history says not a good idea hospitals operating too far private. Heck even charity based hospitals here were know for doing bad things like forced abortions | Sep 30 14:24 |
schestowitz | Ted unabomber had a shit life | Sep 30 14:24 |
MinceR | plenty of ammo are already made by private enterprises, no need for the state to do that | Sep 30 14:24 |
schestowitz | and i suppose the "state" did not interfere much | Sep 30 14:24 |
schestowitz | statelessness is no pipe dream | Sep 30 14:24 |
MinceR | oiaohm: so bad things can happen without the state, so let's just double down on the bad things? | Sep 30 14:24 |
schestowitz | if you kill someone or someone is killed, who holds them accountable? | Sep 30 14:24 |
schestowitz | you shoot them back | Sep 30 14:24 |
schestowitz | capture and torture? | Sep 30 14:24 |
schestowitz | or what | Sep 30 14:25 |
schestowitz | ? | Sep 30 14:25 |
MinceR | other people will hold you accountable | Sep 30 14:25 |
MinceR | as long as they don't want themselves to be killed randomly | Sep 30 14:25 |
schestowitz | that's vigilante | Sep 30 14:25 |
MinceR | so? | Sep 30 14:25 |
schestowitz | a bit like gangs | Sep 30 14:25 |
MinceR | still not as bad as giving a bunch of people the exclusive right to use violence against you | Sep 30 14:25 |
MinceR | which then they abuse to protect the interests of the rich and powerful | Sep 30 14:26 |
oiaohm | Really different areas of medical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmaceutical_Benefits_Scheme Like Australia PBS show the state can apply critical force. | Sep 30 14:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme - Wikipedia | Sep 30 14:27 | |
oiaohm | MinceR: like it or not you need so much regulation or you end up with companies and minority groups causing lots of problems. | Sep 30 14:28 |
oiaohm | PBS makes companies fight to provide best price for items for a complete country instead of being able to go around individually gouging as much as they can. | Sep 30 14:29 |
MinceR | and if you have so much regulation, you'll end up with companies and minority groups controlling that regulation | Sep 30 14:29 |
MinceR | and through it, you | Sep 30 14:29 |
schestowitz | task: | Sep 30 14:29 |
schestowitz | fund the most ridiculous IBM page | Sep 30 14:30 |
MinceR | you'll keep liking that "critical force" until it hits you | Sep 30 14:30 |
schestowitz | or article | Sep 30 14:30 |
schestowitz | about how IBM supports women | Sep 30 14:30 |
schestowitz | I am working on a new article | Sep 30 14:30 |
schestowitz | with Nixon audio about IBM's pres | Sep 30 14:30 |
oiaohm | MinceR: Australia has lower minority groups controlling regulation due to mandorary voting | Sep 30 14:30 |
oiaohm | So how system is design is important. | Sep 30 14:31 |
schestowitz | I have lost track of "worst of femmewashing" by IBM | Sep 30 14:31 |
schestowitz | but I saw some examples over the years | Sep 30 14:31 |
schestowitz | I will debunk their propaganda | Sep 30 14:31 |
MinceR | oiaohm: the government is a minority group | Sep 30 14:32 |
oiaohm | MinceR: in Australia case it a fairly big minority think when you look the number of people direction involved one way or another is 10% of the population | Sep 30 14:37 |
MinceR | so if 10% of the population decides you must adopt a different religion, you will happily comply? | Sep 30 14:38 |
oiaohm | High percentage of population than some years voted in the USA president in the USA. | Sep 30 14:38 |
oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Australia Legally they cannot do that. Government in Australia to change something Constitution requires the complete population to vote. | Sep 30 14:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Freedom of religion in Australia - Wikipedia | Sep 30 14:41 | |
MinceR | yeah, because a government has never ignored its constitution before | Sep 30 14:41 |
MinceR | and more importantly, the armed forces of a government have always cared whether their orders were in full compliance with the constitution | Sep 30 14:42 |
oiaohm | MinceR: Australia breach of constitution triggers 3 possible groups. 1 the Governor general who can command armies and dismiss governments. 2. Australian police forces(yes breaking Constitution is a crime) 3. General citizen rights to citizen arrest and prosecute. | Sep 30 14:47 |
MinceR | yeah, i've never seen such measures work, ever | Sep 30 14:48 |
oiaohm | So yes armed forces and governments do care about proveable breaches of Constitution | Sep 30 14:48 |
MinceR | they just do what they're told and if it is found out that they were in the wrong, someone gets to sue them maybe... after they've already killed you | Sep 30 14:48 |
oiaohm | We have see people in parlement arrested so removed from parlment for good for breachs of Constitution in this country. | Sep 30 14:48 |
MinceR | that's nice | Sep 30 14:49 |
MinceR | it doesn't happen in most places | Sep 30 14:49 |
oiaohm | Once arrested and convicted of breach of Constitution in our system you are legally out for good. | Sep 30 14:49 |
oiaohm | from head of any government position.l | Sep 30 14:49 |
oiaohm | Heck as even a government servent. | Sep 30 14:50 |
oiaohm | Our system really takes Constitution serous-ally. | Sep 30 14:50 |
oiaohm | Its why 3 parties are allowed to enforce it. | Sep 30 14:50 |
oiaohm | Out side government., | Sep 30 14:50 |
oiaohm | Its also why every vote for Australia to come a stand alone republic has failed. How will you put in someone in the governer general role who will not like a USA president. | Sep 30 14:52 |
MinceR | makes me wonder how the monarch is allowed to fuck all of that up on a whim | Sep 30 14:53 |
MinceR | s/how/how much of that/ | Sep 30 14:53 |
MinceR | or whatever | Sep 30 14:53 |
oiaohm | Monarch legally is not allowed todo much other than sack the governer general and trigger another one to be selected., | Sep 30 14:54 |
oiaohm | Basically Australia has stripped the Monarch of all direct powers. | Sep 30 14:54 |
oiaohm | But as indirect oversight so you cannot just appoint who ever as governer general it works. | Sep 30 14:55 |
oiaohm | Problem is how to replace that system in a Republic. | Sep 30 14:56 |
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schestowitz | any takers on IBM? | Sep 30 15:11 |
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DaemonFC[m] | There would be no special election in death, resignation, or successful impeachment of a sitting president, byt it's never gone past the sitting vice president. | Sep 30 15:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Even though it could theoretically go all the way down to Secretary of Homeland Security. | Sep 30 15:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | In the line of succession, the DHS secretary is even lower than Interior or Agriculture, because those departments already existed. | Sep 30 15:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | The only three ways that don't involve cooperation from the president for him to be removed from office are successful impeachment, death, or a declaration of presidential incapacity that is forced on him by a majority of his own cabinet. | Sep 30 15:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | But to successfully remove him by decree of the cabinet is difficult if he wants to resist. He can fire any member of the cabinet that he wants to, so if he gets word that they're planning to do it, he could just keep firing them until nobody does it. | Sep 30 15:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's really meant to be used if he gets sick or taken hostage or something. | Sep 30 15:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | You really just have to be careful because there's basically no way to get a sitting president out until his term expires unless a good chunk of his own party in the Senate has turned on him. | Sep 30 15:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | Almost happened to Nixon. | Sep 30 15:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | It would be much better if there was a way to oust the entire government and start over. | Sep 30 15:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | Many states have a recall petition for state officials. Some have tried to apply it to their Congressmen and US Senators, byt it was struck down. | Sep 30 15:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://patch.com/illinois/libertyville/126k-mail-ballots-sent-lake-co-so-far-officials | Sep 30 15:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-126K Mail-In Ballots Sent In Lake Co. So Far: Officials | Libertyville, IL Patch | Sep 30 15:44 | |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm kind of concerned about Republicans setting up fake drop boxes, to be honest. | Sep 30 15:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | You know, put them on the corners in some neighborhoods. Like black neighborhoods or something. | Sep 30 15:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | No clue where mine is. | Sep 30 15:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | They said they planned to keep mailing about 1,500 per day in Lake County after the initial drop. | Sep 30 15:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | I told them to send mine to the PO Box and it saod my ballot was "issued" last Thursday. | Sep 30 15:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | But with them being so swamped, I could see how it would get delayed in the staggered mailings. | Sep 30 15:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | At the rate they're pushing them out, they probably won't be done sending the backlog out for another week. | Sep 30 15:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | The mail in voting campaign has been pretty successful in Illinois so far. About 6% of the bote was by mail in 2018, and already about a third of registered voters in the state have requested a mail in ballot. The lines to do early in person voting are still backed up for about an hour at any time. | Sep 30 15:53 |
schestowitz | Only Massive Voter Turnout Can Protect Our Democracy From Trump Reelection https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/09/29/only-massive-voter-turnout-can-protect-our-democracy-trump-reelection | Sep 30 15:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Only Massive Voter Turnout Can Protect Our Democracy From Trump Reelection | Common Dreams Views | Sep 30 15:53 | |
DaemonFC[m] | They have these things called Provisional Ballots when something's wrong with it, so you can be sure that officials will be screwing around with that. | Sep 30 15:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Going "Oh the signature on the envelope doesn't match." or something. | Sep 30 15:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then they'll crack those open last and usually about 2/3rds of them never count. | Sep 30 15:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's often votes from black people and they say oh that's racist, but you look at it and it really doesn't follow the rules. | Sep 30 15:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | You know, it says "sign here, here, and here" and they don't or something. | Sep 30 15:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | Or they don't read the instructions and don't place the ballot in the inner envelope. Just the outer one. | Sep 30 15:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | Those get tossed too. They're called a naked ballot. | Sep 30 15:57 |
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DaemonFC[m] | https://www.fastcompany.com/90557727/walmarts-new-store-design-proves-browsing-is-dead | Sep 30 16:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fastcompany.com | Walmart's new store design proves browsing is dead | Sep 30 16:43 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Trying to adapt because people don't want to stand around and shop anymore. | Sep 30 16:43 |
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superkuh | https://matrix.org/blog/2020/09/30/welcoming-gitter-to-matrix/ - Microsoft worming their way in to matrix protocol via github. | Sep 30 16:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Welcoming Gitter to Matrix! | Matrix.org | Sep 30 16:45 | |
XRevan86 | Gitter is owned by GitLab | Sep 30 16:46 |
superkuh | "Seamless onboarding thanks to using GitLab & GitHub for accounts" | Sep 30 16:46 |
superkuh | etc, etc. | Sep 30 16:46 |
superkuh | Sure, gitlab too. | Sep 30 16:46 |
XRevan86 | superkuh: It's *owned* by GitLab. | Sep 30 16:46 |
superkuh | I get that. | Sep 30 16:47 |
superkuh | But it's not just gitlab that is being integrated. | Sep 30 16:47 |
XRevan86 | they didn't drop GitHub support after acquisition | Sep 30 16:47 |
XRevan86 | superkuh: I doubt Microsoft cares even one bit. | Sep 30 16:48 |
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MinceR | global worming | Sep 30 17:25 |
superkuh | XRevan86, you're right. I misunderstood. I read more. | Sep 30 17:25 |
scientes | MinceR, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascariasis#/media/File:Piece_of_intestine,_blocked_by_worms_(16424898321).jpg | Sep 30 17:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ascariasis - Wikipedia | Sep 30 17:54 | |
MinceR | :) | Sep 30 17:54 |
scientes | they are fucking huge https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ascaris_lumbricoides.jpeg | Sep 30 17:54 |
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MinceR | where did the microsoft logos go though? | Sep 30 17:55 |
scientes | go check out sourcehut | Sep 30 17:57 |
scientes | 100% libre software and not spaghettiware | Sep 30 17:57 |
smnthermes | https://freebsdisevil.tumblr.com/post/613307347305103360/freebsd-is-stuck-in-the-past | Sep 30 18:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freebsdisevil.tumblr.com | FreeBSD is EVIL — FreeBSD is stuck in the past | Sep 30 18:25 | |
smnthermes | Troll 1000 | Sep 30 18:26 |
XRevan86 | > BSD users still use IRC, mailing lists, and SVN when the rest of the world uses Slack and GitHub. | Sep 30 18:27 |
XRevan86 | smnthermes: Is it really trolling? Poe's Law prevents me from seeing it as that. | Sep 30 18:27 |
XRevan86 | Let's see what else is in the feed… | Sep 30 18:28 |
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*XRevan86 is so confused by it. | Sep 30 18:32 | |
XRevan86 | smnthermes: I think it's legit. | Sep 30 18:34 |
XRevan86 | I don't think this is trolling. | Sep 30 18:34 |
XRevan86 | it's too consistent and persistent | Sep 30 18:35 |
scientes | hansamx1 | Sep 30 18:35 |
XRevan86 | scientes: is that your password? :) | Sep 30 18:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's more important for FOSS to stay independent than it is for it to be "social". | Sep 30 18:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | But there are open forms of social networking, and IRC is one. It's dated, but still works. | Sep 30 18:41 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Are you sure? I mean, proprietary software is the best friend of FOSS. | Sep 30 18:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's a Putin joke coming, isn't there? | Sep 30 18:41 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: I didn't even think of that. What Putin joke do you have in mind? :) | Sep 30 18:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | I keep referring to Mike Madigan as the Vladimir Putin of Illinois. | Sep 30 18:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oh, how Russia's just a really great friend of all of these independence movements that just somehow spring up all by themselves. | Sep 30 18:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | (Then immediately vote to join Russia.) | Sep 30 18:43 |
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XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Yea, Putin only feels good about a relationship when it's built on at least some form of blackmail^W chantage. | Sep 30 18:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/letters/ct-letters-vp-082619-20190826-r3dkex2q6rfrnnus4buqj7q2eu-story.html | Sep 30 18:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com | Letters: Mike Madigan is the boss of Illinois - Chicago Tribune | Sep 30 18:46 | |
DaemonFC[m] | I doubt Mike Madigan will ever leave until he dies in office. | Sep 30 18:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | But whoever becomes the Speaker of the House will end up inheriting the same House rules, so they would theoretically have just as much power as he does. | Sep 30 18:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | Dictatorships don't plan on successors. | Sep 30 18:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | They just leave a power vacuum and someone else comes along. | Sep 30 18:48 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: They try but they usually fail, because of trust issues. | Sep 30 18:48 |
XRevan86 | Yesterday Tatarstan and Turkmenistan were mentioned, and now they're ruled by successors. | Sep 30 18:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think one of two things is likely to come from this election. | Sep 30 18:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | Either Trump is ousted and the Senate switches over to a small majority of Democrats. | Sep 30 18:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | Or Trump stays but more Democrats in the Senate and House. | Sep 30 18:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | History shows that the incumbent president who wins re-election almost always loses seats in both the midterm and the presidential election. | Sep 30 18:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | Quite possible he'll be dealing with House and Senate Democrats for the rest of his term. | Sep 30 18:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | FiveThirtyEight predicts a 58% chance that Democrats take the majority in the Senate, but it's almost certain that they pick up at least 2 or 3 seats. | Sep 30 18:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Also, a 78% chance that Biden wins. | Sep 30 18:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | But these are separate odds, of course. | Sep 30 18:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | In North Carolina, Cal Cunningham (D) has a pretty stable 5-8 point lead over Lindsey Graham. | Sep 30 18:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | But Biden and Trump are tied. | Sep 30 18:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's pretty clear that Cunningham probably pulls off a win regardless of what happens there between Biden and Trump. | Sep 30 18:53 |
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psydroid | <Chaekyung "Not even sure what language "lk "> it's Dutch and means "I fear no man" | Sep 30 21:30 |
MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20090540 | Sep 30 21:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4870372) | Sep 30 21:43 | |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20011636 | Sep 30 21:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4286778) | Sep 30 21:54 | |
schestowitz | lol | Sep 30 21:56 |
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DaemonFC[m] | https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/09/30/judge-blocks-uscis-fee-increases-heres-why-it-happened/#7d6a6238583a | Sep 30 22:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Judge Blocks USCIS Fee Increases: Here’s Why It Happened | Sep 30 22:13 | |
schestowitz | > “Are you interested in learning more about Emb(race) and IBM’s | Sep 30 23:02 |
schestowitz | > initiative to eradicate racist IT terminology?” -IBM | Sep 30 23:02 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 30 23:02 |
schestowitz | > I can see why someone would think this was a paraphrase, but it was | Sep 30 23:02 |
schestowitz | > actually a direct quote from the email included in this article: | Sep 30 23:02 |
schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2020/08/20/ibm-race-spin/ | Sep 30 23:02 |
schestowitz | Oh, wow. | Sep 30 23:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Never Apologised For Making Billions Out of Overt Racism, Now It Wants to Ban Words Used to Communicate Such Issues and It’s Bombarding Journalists to Seed Misleading Puff Pieces | Techrights | Sep 30 23:02 | |
schestowitz | > EME is what Mozilla calls it. I'm not suggesting it is only Mozilla, | Sep 30 23:03 |
schestowitz | > though in some contexts (websites) it may primarily be Mozilla. Websites | Sep 30 23:03 |
schestowitz | > may just call it "DRM". Also calling it EME doesn't mean that other | Sep 30 23:03 |
schestowitz | > vendors won't have their own branded solution built around EME, at which | Sep 30 23:03 |
schestowitz | > point the user experience wouldn't differ from the older way of doing it | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > via "plugins". So they may actually say "Enable BogProtect" rather than | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > "enable EME", though if any of what Mozilla proposed actually comes to | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > be, "BogProtect" would still need EME to be enabled. | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > EME is what they shoved in after Eich was ousted. It was the beginning | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > of it being very clear who buttered Mozilla's bread, that they don't | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > give a shit about users. | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > There is a setting in Icecat, and possibly Mozilla, to turn off the | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > option of turning EME on. So not only does IceCat disable EME, it | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > disables the way to turn it back on. But you can go turn on that | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > setting, which then allows you to turn on EME as well. All of this is | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > possible from about:config-- IceCat probably disables it via user.js, | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > which is typically how you change a default a la config file if you have | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > your own derivative. I don't believe they actually remove the code from | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > IceCat, it's simply switched "off" twice. No promises that this is up to | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > date. | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | scientes: | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > scientes | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > I think C can be improved to be as usable as the slow languages | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > Sep 29 14:30 | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-290920.html#tSep | Sep 30 23:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 | Sep 30 23:04 | |
schestowitz | > 29 14:30:52> | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > Not really, it's the usability that makes them slow. Most of the speed | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > costs in Python come from dynamic type handling. Other than that, it | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > runs closer to the metal than people think. Not as fast as C, but as | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > fast as it can be and be that usable. | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > I'm not against people trying though, I'm against them getting their | Sep 30 23:04 |
schestowitz | > hopes up. | Sep 30 23:05 |
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schestowitz | we'll soon publish some Gates deposition videos | Sep 30 23:56 |
schestowitz | 12 of them at least | Sep 30 23:56 |
schestowitz | 2.3 GB | Sep 30 23:56 |
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