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schestowitzToday's techrights  as plain text (no need for browser) http://techrights.org/txt/Oct 30 00:06
MinceR:)Oct 30 00:09
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XRevan86twice, once, thrice; twins, onns, thrinsOct 30 00:23
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schestowitzhiOct 30 01:05
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XRevan86https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/105090176790708909Oct 30 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mamot.fr | Cory Doctorow's linkblog: "In 1998, Bill Clinton signed the Digital Millenniโ€ฆ" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media FรฉdรฉrรฉOct 30 01:16
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schestowitzXRevan86: he was sucking up to Hollywood, not in the oval officeOct 30 01:23
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scientesyou know what would be really niceOct 30 03:51
scientesIf YouTube or a better video site adds the ability to upload multiple audio channelsOct 30 03:51
scientesso that news channels could upload the original audio in addition to the over-dubOct 30 03:51
scientes<MinceR> (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/19/ce2c242d02c4ea1d.jpgOct 30 03:51
scientessmoking is bad for your health PSAOct 30 03:51
*scientes reads that they added that special feature for the olympics, but only for the olympicsOct 30 03:54
scientesgayOct 30 03:54
scienteshardu gayuOct 30 03:54
MinceRwell, if one hosted their videos on their own webserver, the videos could be mkv with multiple audio channels :>Oct 30 03:55
*scientes read that this video is suppose to have multiple audio channels in a enws article, but cant find them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssrNcwxALS4Oct 30 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Assassin's Creed Valhalla - Official Trailer - YouTubeOct 30 03:56
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scientesmother fucker, mother fucker, mother fucker, mother fucker https://youtu.be/K4n2RLt2KmoOct 30 04:51
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XRevan86https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/300-million-downloads-of-apache no shameOct 30 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.apache.org | 300 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice : Apache OpenOfficeOct 30 11:40
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txXRevan86 I don't get it. What's the problem? :oOct 30 11:41
XRevan86vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: They're bragging about how many downloads their stagnant project has.Oct 30 11:41
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XRevan86Even though its mere existence hurts FOSS Office Suite development.Oct 30 11:42
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txAhOct 30 11:42
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txWhat's the most active FOSS version? Libra?Oct 30 11:43
XRevan86LibreOffice, of course.Oct 30 11:43
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txLibre*Oct 30 11:43
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txAhOct 30 11:43
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI recommend that to all the non-IT people I knowOct 30 11:43
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txLibreOfficeOct 30 11:44
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txFor people that know how to program, though, I feel like LaTeX is the best option.Oct 30 11:45
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scientesXRevan86, yeah that is pretty shameful about the "Open"Office bragOct 30 12:04
scientesI was even responsible for that onceOct 30 12:04
scientesI had Ubuntu on my computer with LibreOffice, but was still suggesting OpenOffice on Yahoo! Answers (yeah, I know)Oct 30 12:04
oiaohmvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: I know how to program.  Yet I normally will be using libreoffice over LaTeX.  Oct 30 12:05
scientesmother fucker, mother fucker, mother fucker, mother fucker https://youtu.be/K4n2RLt2KmoOct 30 12:06
scientesyou can't do this on US TVOct 30 12:06
XRevan86"but was still suggesting OpenOffice on Yahoo! Answers" โ€“ weird choiceOct 30 12:06
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txGeorgians are great lolOct 30 12:07
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txoiaohm: if it works for you, it works for you. (y) Oct 30 12:08
oiaohmvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: part of it is that is that it is possible to export to LaTex from Libreoffice if you need todo more fancy in LaTeX later.Oct 30 12:09
oiaohmLibreoffice is a fairly decent all rounder.Oct 30 12:10
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI like how they are adding more graphics-type software into LibreOffice. I feel like you need that in any modern office suite.Oct 30 12:12
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txKeeping the interfaces intuitive and kind of similar to the market dominators is also a clever tacticOct 30 12:12
oiaohmhttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office  this is a interesting list.   A big one that is not talking about is that Libreoffice support 119 different Languages these days.  Yes will spell and grammar check.   MS Office tops out at 92.Oct 30 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.documentfoundation.org | Feature Comparison: LibreOffice - Microsoft Office - The Document Foundation WikiOct 30 12:13
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txoiaohm: It's a wiki. You should update it. :)Oct 30 12:14
oiaohmThere are quite a few countries out there that the countries national language cannot be typed in MS Office.Oct 30 12:14
oiaohmvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: Import of graphics formats: MEZ, EMZ, WMZ, PCZ  << out of known formats to appear in MS Office documents its only those 4 that libreoffice is missing these days.Oct 30 12:18
oiaohmOf course Libreoffice supports lot more image formats than a modern version of MS Office does.Oct 30 12:18
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txIs that also missing from the wiki?Oct 30 12:18
oiaohmNoOct 30 12:19
oiaohmIts in there.Oct 30 12:19
oiaohmThe latex export with Libreoffice is an extention you add on.Oct 30 12:19
oiaohmSo its not a core feature bit that way the latex export is not in that section of the wiki.Oct 30 12:19
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txYou can still add it under "extension"Oct 30 12:20
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThat's the whole point of it being open source anywayOct 30 12:20
oiaohmWriter2LaTex allows to export Writer documents to LaTex  << is on that wiki page.Oct 30 12:20
oiaohmI normally don't dig down that far.Oct 30 12:21
scientesdoes say on that page that LibreOffice doesn't support TeX mathOct 30 12:22
scientesso you still have to use TeX to do complex mathOct 30 12:22
oiaohmDoes and does not.   Oct 30 12:22
oiaohmOut box libreoffice does not support TeX to do complex math but you install extention as it does.Oct 30 12:22
scientesOnce I used LyX and it looked *beautiful* I was convinced that I had been living in the dark ages with all these WYSIWYG editorsOct 30 12:23
scientesbecause whenever you use a WYSIWYG editor it always ends up looking like crapOct 30 12:23
scientesand I could produce absolutely beautiful documents with LyX with easeOct 30 12:23
scientesmainly just lettersOct 30 12:23
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txIt's not much different from HTML. And you can automate things with language of your choice because it's all plaintext.Oct 30 12:24
scientesexcept HTML learned how to do things like curved borders like a bazillion years after TeXOct 30 12:24
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI meant the syntaxOct 30 12:24
scientesyeah, but its also the templatesOct 30 12:24
scientesI can pull up LyX, and in 5 minutes have a gorgeous letterOct 30 12:25
scientesoh cool, libreoffice also has a markdown modeOct 30 12:26
scienteswhich is nice, because markdown is like my favoriteOct 30 12:26
scientesI started using it for everythingOct 30 12:26
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI've been using TeX based stuff for years. These days I do it all inside Emacs. And my window manager can show me the end result immediately. A lot of my desktop setup revolves around TeX, now that I think about it.Oct 30 12:26
scientesoh, but they use __ for underline, and // for italicsOct 30 12:26
oiaohmscientes:   TexMaths extention to Libreoffice what is basically use latex todo the maths and embed the generated image.Oct 30 12:26
scientesso its not actually markdown....Oct 30 12:26
scientesoiaohm, you can't do it any other wayOct 30 12:27
oiaohmBefore Libreoffice can do maths stuff well it self they need to fix up the maths font support.Oct 30 12:27
scientesbecause TeX is a languageOct 30 12:27
oiaohmthen fix up the old maths editor.Oct 30 12:27
scientesits just the general problem of too many featuresOct 30 12:28
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txWith stuff like Docker and Podman, you can spin up various TeX setups in no time. I've got like 6 ATM.Oct 30 12:28
oiaohmThere are plans to bring the maths system back in Libreoffice at some point.Oct 30 12:28
oiaohmThe old system that disabled had a maths proof checker.Oct 30 12:28
scientesgeezeOct 30 12:29
scienteslike that belongs in a typesetting program....Oct 30 12:29
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThe IDE approach works for someOct 30 12:29
oiaohmRemember libreoffice history is not a typesetting program.   The orginal maths bit of the code base starts in Star Office suite before even open office. So its the office suite model.Oct 30 12:31
oiaohmOffice suite equals at time insane overkill.Oct 30 12:31
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txGood pointOct 30 12:32
scientesunmaintainable german-commented spagetti......Oct 30 12:32
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txlolOct 30 12:32
oiaohmWith german like for adding extra features just because.Oct 30 12:32
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI come across a lot of German-commented spaghetti. They really don't like to use English.Oct 30 12:33
scientesthey should have translated all the code comments to CopticOct 30 12:33
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI was doing some work on smartcards a while back and like 30% of the documentation was in German.Oct 30 12:33
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txcode comments being a part of that documentatioOct 30 12:34
scientesif its spagetti it should be italian, right?Oct 30 12:34
oiaohmReally Germans do like coming up with the own words as well instead of straight importing like mobile phone in german is like handy.Oct 30 12:34
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txWunderbarrioOct 30 12:35
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThereOct 30 12:35
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txfixedOct 30 12:35
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txGerman spaghettiOct 30 12:35
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oiaohmscientes: not really thinking all early references to spegetti code are Americans. Oct 30 12:37
scientesGerman SchnitzlOct 30 12:37
scientes(hammered pork)Oct 30 12:38
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txoiaohm: that would be Big Mac code*Oct 30 12:38
scientesbasically this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJIjoE27F-QOct 30 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Obtaining I.Q. and aptitude tests (Idiocracy, short scene) - YouTubeOct 30 12:38
oiaohmvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: remember the usa with french fries then renaming them to fredom fries.   Never guess on USA naming.Oct 30 12:39
oiaohmGerman for what Americas call spaghetti code is what they would call rats nest code. Oct 30 12:40
scientesexcept that didn't stickOct 30 12:40
scientesshould have just called them chipsOct 30 12:40
oiaohmrats nest code as the translated.Oct 30 12:40
oiaohmStill horrible mess.Oct 30 12:40
scientesI'm going with SchnitzlOct 30 12:40
scientes(if its german)Oct 30 12:41
oiaohmThinking it makes sense thinking speghetti code does look like rats nest electronics.Oct 30 12:41
scientesif its american, maybe Pullman Strike?Oct 30 12:42
scientesahhh, pretzel codeOct 30 12:42
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scientesor alphabet soupOct 30 12:43
oiaohmhttps://serverfault.com/questions/420877/ive-inherited-a-rats-nest-of-cabling-what-now/420885   Please note rats nests I see a bit I do business data cabling.Oct 30 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-serverfault.com | networking - I've inherited a rat's nest of cabling. What now? - Server FaultOct 30 12:43
scientes^^^yeah, that is the best oneOct 30 12:43
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oiaohmrats nest is the older term.Oct 30 12:44
oiaohmspaghetti code is basically lets be polite.Oct 30 12:44
oiaohmYes you have people call cabling messes in recent years speghetti as well.Oct 30 12:44
scientesso debuginfod got releasedOct 30 12:46
scientesand it uses a forking thread modeOct 30 12:46
scienteslike apache 1Oct 30 12:46
oiaohmhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/zezozeceglutz/100_2676.jpg   << This is what a functional electronics rats nest looks like.   Horrible part before PCBs this was called good construction.Oct 30 12:47
scientesyeah it looks pretty goodOct 30 12:48
oiaohmUntil the wire coatings start to break down.Oct 30 12:48
scientesoiaohm, you try to do betterOct 30 12:48
oiaohmI did not say I could do better.Oct 30 12:49
oiaohmrats nest electronics looks great until the wire coatings go .Oct 30 12:49
oiaohmThen they come the worlds worse nightmares.Oct 30 12:49
scientesoiaohm, https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-9064-the_ultimate_apollo_guidance_computer_talk#t=3644Oct 30 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.ccc.de - The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer TalkOct 30 12:49
scienteshand woven core memoryOct 30 12:49
scienteswent to the moonOct 30 12:49
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scientesand did all the necessary trigonometryOct 30 12:50
tr_guest|43767https://www.nytimes.com/1975/05/20/archives/ibm-antitrust-suit-opens-with-us-seeking-breakup-justice-department.htmlOct 30 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | I.B.M. Antitrust Suit Opens With U.S. Seeking Breakโ€Up - The New York TimesOct 30 12:51
oiaohm??? am I am reading that right.Oct 30 12:52
oiaohmNo I was not reading that right.Oct 30 12:52
scientestr_guest|43767, yeah!, and that was after NASA already had technology that could put IBM largely out of businessOct 30 12:53
oiaohmI was reading that IBM was wanting to break US government.Oct 30 12:53
scientesthis is an excellent book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_HolocaustOct 30 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | IBM and the Holocaust - WikipediaOct 30 12:54
tr_guest|43767I.B.M. is charged with violation of Section 2 of the Sherman Act. In order to convict I.B.M. the Government must prove both that a monopoly existsOct 30 12:54
oiaohmThat going to be hard.Oct 30 12:54
tr_guest|43767He stated that I.B.M. controlled about 70 per cent of this market through the years, while no competitor had more than 10 per cent.Oct 30 12:54
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scientestr_guest|43767, yeah but you are missing the part that NASA already had technology that would later enable Intel+Windows to come in and overpower IBMOct 30 12:55
scientesIntel+MicrosoftOct 30 12:55
tr_guest|43767As he opened the trial, Judge Edelstein told both Justice Department and I.B.M. lawyers that the purpose of an opening statement in a nonjury trial was to enable the court to follow the evidence more clearly.Oct 30 12:55
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oiaohmIf you go back in history all parts supplied to the USA mil had to have 3 different supplies this is why we had so many different early 8086 suppliers.Oct 30 13:03
oiaohmLot of the market dominance in computers by limited companies is caused by USA government giving up on the supply mandates.Oct 30 13:04
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2txMicrochip has a pretty big footprint in today's market as wellOct 30 13:43
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txChrist. Look at what's happening to Twitter stock: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TWTR?p=TWTROct 30 13:45
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DaemonFC[m]I bought a new phone. Oct 30 13:50
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DaemonFC[m]The S8+ screen finally cracked on top of the other problems so I got a S20 FE on sale for $400.Oct 30 13:50
DaemonFC[m]It's quite fast.Oct 30 13:50
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2txPretty good dealOct 30 13:58
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scientesvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx, it is twerking?Oct 30 14:44
scientesvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx, it was 25 on march 11Oct 30 14:44
scientesq32 billionOct 30 14:45
scientesgeezeOct 30 14:45
scientesthat more than a dollar a tweetOct 30 14:45
scientesif it didn't effect the physical economy, you could put every tweet on a carrier pidgeon for that market capitalizationOct 30 14:46
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx:') Oct 30 14:46
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txOver the last 3 years it has had a pattern of spiking and then dippingOct 30 14:47
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txWonder if pattern will holdOct 30 14:47
scientesmaybe its just trying to deliver the tweets in turbulent airOct 30 14:47
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scienteshttps://www.theonion.com/authorities-urge-orange-county-residents-to-stop-buildi-1845510053Oct 30 14:49
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scientesoh that is goodOct 30 14:49
scientesas someone that has seen the politics of those California planning departmentsOct 30 14:49
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx=# Oct 30 14:51
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oiaohmOk so they don't have the Australian solution of just recruit the builders into the bush fire department.Oct 30 16:10
oiaohmTo fight fires you always need personal.  Oct 30 16:10
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schestowitz[13:50] <DaemonFC[m]> The S8+ screen finally cracked on top of the other problems so I got a S20 FE on sale for $400.Oct 30 16:19
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schestowitznewer spying machines with more sensory parts to them :-)Oct 30 16:20
schestowitzwe have loads of spammy billboards here saying iPhone "is privacy"Oct 30 16:20
schestowitzshowing people of different genders and races pointing a camera against their faceOct 30 16:20
schestowitzas if to give pore-deep selifies to AppleOct 30 16:20
schestowitz[13:45] <vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx> Christ. Look at what's happening to Twitter stock: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TWTR?p=TWTROct 30 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Twitter, Inc. (TWTR) Stock Price, News, Quote & History - Yahoo FinanceOct 30 16:21
schestowitztheir owner is about to be ejectedOct 30 16:21
schestowitzhis name if DJTOct 30 16:21
schestowitznot JackOct 30 16:21
schestowitz*isOct 30 16:21
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txschestowitz: sent you an email earlier today, btw.Oct 30 16:22
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schestowitz[11:40] <XRevan86> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/300-million-downloads-of-apache no shameOct 30 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.apache.org | Service UnavailableOct 30 16:26
schestowitz404 - Page not FoundOct 30 16:26
XRevan86TechrightsBot-tr won't let me lie, it was there before %)Oct 30 16:27
schestowitzYes, I noticed thatOct 30 16:28
XRevan86Maybe there is shame after all :).Oct 30 16:28
schestowitzmaybe they count very old downloadsOct 30 16:28
schestowitzvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: thanks, I check mail once a day, will get around to it laterOct 30 16:29
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2txschestowitz: I should start doing that. Been drowning lately.Oct 30 16:29
schestowitzI started out of no choiceOct 30 16:31
schestowitzas I lacked RAMOct 30 16:31
schestowitzbut eventually I realised it's vastly betterOct 30 16:31
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txSeems like itOct 30 16:31
schestowitzand I identified mental clutter patternsOct 30 16:31
schestowitzwhich is why i quit entering twitter etc.Oct 30 16:31
schestowitzfor mail you can sort and deal with bulk when you let it pile up a bitOct 30 16:31
schestowitzchecking email is real time is like sipping coffee 9-5Oct 30 16:32
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz Yeah the best deal on the phone. I was going to do Pixel 4a 5g, but the salesman showed me this onr.Oct 30 16:46
DaemonFC[m]The bloat and Microsoft's crap can be uninstalled so no big deal. Oct 30 16:46
schestowitzwhat do you need one for? MARISOL?Oct 30 16:47
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DaemonFC[m]No she'd get the iphone that costs 4.5 times more.Oct 30 16:48
schestowitzyou could get a sofa for the price of that 'phone'Oct 30 16:48
schestowitzit's like people in Tondo who chose to have a 'smart' phone instead of a toilet. Not so smart...Oct 30 16:49
schestowitzthose "smart" phones aren't even social status symbolOct 30 16:50
schestowitzas so many people "have" themOct 30 16:50
schestowitzand unlike toilets, they're non-essentialOct 30 16:50
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schestowitzlots of people also have many babies, esp. in very poor places like Niger and MaliOct 30 16:51
DaemonFC[m]The Androids at like $400 now are actually pretty capable.Oct 30 16:51
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schestowitzthat does not mean it's essential Oct 30 16:51
schestowitz$400 for what?Oct 30 16:51
schestowitzmaking calls?Oct 30 16:51
schestowitzalarm clock?Oct 30 16:51
DaemonFC[m]Music player, Netflix, etc.Oct 30 16:51
DaemonFC[m]They can do most of what the laptop can.Oct 30 16:52
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DaemonFC[m]Microsoft is scared of them.Oct 30 16:52
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DaemonFC[m]Android is like everything else they laughed at then tried to compete with 6 years too late and bungled.Oct 30 16:53
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: they don't even have a physical keyboardOct 30 16:56
schestowitzchances are, you never type into IRC from a "phone"Oct 30 16:57
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2txGoing to call it an early night tonightOct 30 17:31
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txHave a good one, all.Oct 30 17:31
schestowitzok, cyaOct 30 17:32
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MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/literallyOct 30 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - LiterallyOct 30 22:54
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schestowitzMinceR: ahOct 30 23:09
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MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/magic-2Oct 30 23:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - MagicOct 30 23:18
psydread> Microsoft is scared of them.Oct 30 23:23
psydreadWhenever something that competes with Microsoft and is actually better is in the news the troll army comes out in full force, these days even more so because they are slowly losing all markets including strategic onesOct 30 23:23
schestowitzthis is trueOct 30 23:23
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20072818Oct 30 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4786933)Oct 30 23:42
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/07/18/collusion-and-coverup/Oct 30 23:42
schestowitz> The problem with the EPO stuff not being covered much by the mainstreamOct 30 23:42
schestowitz> media is simply that it's too abstract and obscure for their purposes,Oct 30 23:42
schestowitz> and most journalists get to spend very little time on a story, just likeOct 30 23:42
schestowitz> EPO and USPTO and other patent examiners get to spend very little timeOct 30 23:42
schestowitz> on a patent application.Oct 30 23:42
schestowitz> Oct 30 23:42
schestowitz> This story is more than 4 months old, so I can't cover it now unless andOct 30 23:42
schestowitz> until there are some new statements/developments.Oct 30 23:42
schestowitzWait for the Commission to respond... if it ever does. Is it legally obliged to?Oct 30 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Thierry Breton and the European Commission Must Answer Perfectly Legitimate Questions About European Patent Office Corruption | TechrightsOct 30 23:43
schestowitzRe: No compulsory licensing for COVID under UPCOct 30 23:47
schestowitz> This is a bomb:Oct 30 23:47
schestowitz> Oct 30 23:47
schestowitz> https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1322129100362911744Oct 30 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Unitary Patent will even ban compulsory licenses for COVID? "11. Exclusion of compulsory licenses through EU law prโ€ฆ https://t.co/DyOYAmeJdEOct 30 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Unitary Patent will even ban compulsory licenses for COVID? "11. Exclusion of compulsory licenses through EU law prโ€ฆ https://t.co/DyOYAmeJdEOct 30 23:47
schestowitz> Oct 30 23:47
schestowitz> Please make a blog post...Oct 30 23:47
schestowitzzoobab: not much to say beyond a sentenceOct 30 23:47
schestowitzand I prefer not to mention upc more than necessaryOct 30 23:47
schestowitzas it lends credibility to the idea that it'll come one day (which I doubt)Oct 30 23:48
XRevan86MinceR: You know my opinion, not how it played out.Oct 30 23:50
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XRevan86Too many chances for the minority vote to win.Oct 30 23:53
schestowitzwhere?Oct 30 23:55
schestowitzre upc?Oct 30 23:55

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