IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: October 4th, 2008 - Part 2

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2008-10-05 09:34:53 UTC
Modified: 2008-10-05 09:34:53 UTC

twitter	The M$ hiring freeze is big news. If the Vista failure was not enough to defeat the M$ Invincibility myth, a shrinking company will be.	Oct 04 18:07
MinceR	point.	Oct 04 18:07
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twitter	:)	Oct 04 18:17
MinceR	can't find it	Oct 04 18:18
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MinceR	firehose is such a pain to use	Oct 04 18:18
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twitter	try looking for twitter.	Oct 04 18:31
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twitter	make your threshold black.	Oct 04 18:31
twitter	the word freeze would also be useful in a search.	Oct 04 18:32
MinceR	btw, i don't know what all the hype about chrome/chromium's new javascript engine is	Oct 04 18:32
MinceR	it's not a bit faster than oper	Oct 04 18:32
MinceR	a	Oct 04 18:32
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MinceR	"twitter freeze" doesn't bring up anything	Oct 04 18:35
twitter	The "turn this page into an application" looks interesting.	Oct 04 18:35
MinceR	"twitter submission" shows some hits but none are it	Oct 04 18:35
MinceR	well, they talked about how uberfast it is going to be and it's not fast at all	Oct 04 18:36
twitter	I wonder if this is why none of my submissions make it to the front page these days.	Oct 04 18:36
MinceR	i don't see what are they so proud of.	Oct 04 18:36
twitter	I submit all of my journal entries. You don't find any of them?	Oct 04 18:36
MinceR	http://i36.tinypic.com/313gdo6.png	Oct 04 18:37
MinceR	wait, i think it switched to "Archive" at some point	Oct 04 18:37
twitter	you should be able to find them by time stamp, http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/	Oct 04 18:38
twitter	what is archive?	Oct 04 18:38
twitter	how can you tell?	Oct 04 18:38
MinceR	i've seen the journal entry, but not on firehose	Oct 04 18:38
twitter	The time stamp for both should be the same.	Oct 04 18:39
MinceR	"Archive" is one of the time spans i can select, but that didn't remove most recent entries	Oct 04 18:39
MinceR	in any case, "twitter submission" doesn't show any entries submitted by you	Oct 04 18:39
twitter	oh dear. Firehose is broken.	Oct 04 18:39
twitter	or the journal submission is broken	Oct 04 18:39
MinceR	"submission freeze" doesn't show it either	Oct 04 18:39
twitter	I have not been able to see my submissions for a long time, but I thought that was something they did to prevent voting from the same IP address.	Oct 04 18:40
MinceR	now it brings up http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op...	Oct 04 18:40
twitter	that's not me, it's the cnet feed.	Oct 04 18:41
twitter	worth voting up, but you can see it's been nuked.	Oct 04 18:42
MinceR	i know	Oct 04 18:43
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trmanco_	http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/	Oct 04 19:13
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schestowitz	BN is still up and down. Going towards 10 GB of traffic in one day. :-O	Oct 04 19:21
schestowitz	twitter: someone posted a comment in BN claiming to have created an anti-twitter page.	Oct 04 19:23
trmanco	http://www.groklaw.net/article.php...	Oct 04 19:28
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schestowitz	Thank, trmanco. I do a summary that includes SCO soon.	Oct 04 19:49
trmanco	:)	Oct 04 19:49
schestowitz	BN is in the front page of LinuxToday now. It'll be like 11 GB of traffic today. Ouch.	Oct 04 19:51
trmanco	lol	Oct 04 19:52
schestowitz	I'm just surprised the server is up at the moment. It's about half a gig per hour.	Oct 04 19:52
schestowitz	Including PHP, which need RAM and CPU.	Oct 04 19:52
PetoKraus	let's add to the traffic, eh?	Oct 04 19:53
schestowitz	There's a sporadic downtime. I get E-mails about it from people...	Oct 04 19:54
schestowitz	Oh og...	Oct 04 19:55
schestowitz	Just got this mail: "Get ready with the sever you might be /. http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=vie... Best"	Oct 04 19:55
schestowitz	We need a torrent.	Oct 04 19:56
zoobab	or a faster server	Oct 04 19:57
schestowitz	It's pretty fast.	Oct 04 19:57
schestowitz	But Digg FP usually takes it down. Almost every time. Then suspended by the host.	Oct 04 19:57
schestowitz	Just in case, I'll cut down some of the PHP scripts. There should also be some WordPress plugin.	Oct 04 19:58
PetoKraus	what are those docs about?	Oct 04 19:58
schestowitz	Which ones?	Oct 04 19:58
schestowitz	brb. Damn, I'm getting ill.	Oct 04 19:59
trmanco	I already am (ill)	Oct 04 19:59
trmanco	I have some sort of flu	Oct 04 19:59
schestowitz	http://www.deviceguru.com/2008/06/25/surv...	Oct 04 20:02
AVRS2	Is it a copyright violation to read the standard?	Oct 04 20:02
AVRS2	Torrentless partial solution for load: e.g., Gnutella hash.	Oct 04 20:03
schestowitz	AVRS2: I doubt it's a violation.	Oct 04 20:07
AVRS2	AFAIK, final ISO standards are non-free.	Oct 04 20:07
AVRS2	completely	Oct 04 20:07
twitter	Congratulations on the front page.	Oct 04 20:07
twitter	there are many anti-twitter pages	Oct 04 20:08
AVRS2	twitter: front page of what?	Oct 04 20:08
twitter	Linux today	Oct 04 20:08
AVRS2	ah	Oct 04 20:08
twitter	I was the subject of a lot of Anti-Slash.org stuff for a while.	Oct 04 20:09
twitter	The site owner taunted me with it. I don't believe there was ever more than one user of such a stupid site.	Oct 04 20:10
twitter	It's interesting M$ would waste money smearing me.	Oct 04 20:11
schestowitz	I might just break the site deadling with 'experimental' stuff on it.	Oct 04 20:11
schestowitz	I'll make backups.	Oct 04 20:11
twitter	:)	Oct 04 20:11
AVRS2	schestowitz: not on FSDaily?	Oct 04 20:12
schestowitz	Geez. The server is so slow.	Oct 04 20:12
schestowitz	http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/...	Oct 04 20:13
schestowitz	I think I once spoke to Elliot about this in the WordPress mailing lists.	Oct 04 20:13
schestowitz	Back then we were discussing caching. I used to be very active in WP.	Oct 04 20:14
AVRS2	schestowitz: why haven't you submit it to FSDaily?	Oct 04 20:14
AVRS2	*submitted	Oct 04 20:14
AVRS2	As for copyright… is it not stated in the file?	Oct 04 20:15
schestowitz	I think it'll bork the software (WP). I already messed about with it too much.	Oct 04 20:16
schestowitz	AVRS2: thank1	Oct 04 20:16
schestowitz	AVRS2: thanks!!	Oct 04 20:16
schestowitz	AVRS2: for this reason, I sort of stated in the post that the vile behaviour of Microsoft and ISO would make it hypocritical for them to rebuff.	Oct 04 20:18
AVRS2	agreed	Oct 04 20:18
AVRS2	although it doesn't mean ISO wouldn't do it	Oct 04 20:18
AVRS2	(just a unsubstantiated guess)	Oct 04 20:19
schestowitz	I'll keep that software off my server. It's not worth the risk because I anticipate the issues based on what's in http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/2... . We just need a torrent and I'll optimise the pages slightly to reduce CPU load and DB queries.	Oct 04 20:19
schestowitz	ISO = Microsoft.	Oct 04 20:19
AVRS2	hmm is the final OpenDocument ISO specification public?	Oct 04 20:19
schestowitz	Yes, I think so. You could grab hold of a copy.	Oct 04 20:20
schestowitz	BTW, for /. t put it in FP would be weird given the things I've said about them and their associated sites.	Oct 04 20:20
twitter	It's weird of them to post M$ press releases for the same reasons.	Oct 04 20:21
twitter	and more	Oct 04 20:21
twitter	They have not taken any of my submissions over the last six months or so.	Oct 04 20:22
twitter	The last one they took was on the heals of BN saying Slashdot had sold out.	Oct 04 20:23
twitter	It was nice to see a link to my Vista Failure Log on the front page :)	Oct 04 20:23
schestowitz	They need the $$ (Visual Studio ads and all)	Oct 04 20:23
schestowitz	schestowitz.com made /. FP back in 2005.	Oct 04 20:24
AVRS2	fsdaily	Oct 04 20:25
twitter	It's nice of M$ to pay for all of that. What I don't like is their paid astroturf.	Oct 04 20:25
*schestowitz can't think of what else to remove without harming page content.		Oct 04 20:25
twitter	What do you mean "remove"?	Oct 04 20:25
schestowitz	I don't buy the "nice of them" excuse. It's a lie spread by those who accept MS ads.	Oct 04 20:26
schestowitz	As in, those editors/writers and PUBLISHERS in particular who get money from it. I know this excuse because I spoke to them about it... always the same rubbish excuse.	Oct 04 20:26
twitter	Are there sarcasm tags in pidgin?	Oct 04 20:27
schestowitz	I stopped writing for Datamation because they started MS ads. LinuxTOday is back with these as well... Brian told me he was relieved to be out of that MS ads gig.	Oct 04 20:27
schestowitz	twitter: I'm cutting down bits of the page. Though my main issue are the downloads. ./ effects alone isn't enough of a load. It's Digg that's a killer with like 20,000 visits within hours.	Oct 04 20:28
schestowitz	I saw Groklaw choking just once.	Oct 04 20:28
schestowitz	It was when SCO declared bankrupcy. The whole CMS went titsup, so maybe they had to restore from backup. PJ was so happy she hardly cared.	Oct 04 20:29
twitter	There's nothing nice about M$ but I can see taking their money like anyone else's, as long as editors are not aware/motivated by it.	Oct 04 20:29
twitter	I like the way the FSF site works.	Oct 04 20:29
MinceR	the problem is that they display m$ ads in exchange	Oct 04 20:30
MinceR	which might influence the minds of visitors	Oct 04 20:30
MinceR	how does the FSF site work?	Oct 04 20:30
MinceR	and in any case, i don't think m$ deserves any exposure other than revealing their dirty dealings and the shoddy quality of their products and services	Oct 04 20:31
twitter	Style wise, they have almost no images, free flowing text, it's really minimal.	Oct 04 20:31
twitter	Don't know how it technically works.	Oct 04 20:31
MinceR	i thought you were talking about ads :)	Oct 04 20:31
schestowitz	MinceR: all those ads are harmful.	Oct 04 20:32
schestowitz	Shane is still trying to block them all. We already blocked some sites like novell.com and microsoft.com, but all their partners still show up in the ads.	Oct 04 20:32
twitter	What does google have to say about this? Do they have a group of "ethical advertisers"?	Oct 04 20:35
MinceR	google know nothing about ethics	Oct 04 20:36
MinceR	s/w/ws/	Oct 04 20:37
schestowitz	They are inflexible. I don't know about BN (shane does the AdSense to pay hosting), but in schestowitz.com it's pretty bad with just under the hosting bill covered.	Oct 04 20:37
twitter	Here are some suggestions for stories to reduce bandwith. It would require a new style but I think it would help to get rid of all the front page frame stuff.	Oct 04 20:41
schestowitz	The issue is the downloads though. The main one anyway..	Oct 04 20:42
schestowitz	I can set up a server on my box, I guess. Let me see...	Oct 04 20:43
twitter	I'd nuke the banner, everything on the right especially images not directly related to the story.	Oct 04 20:43
twitter	I see your point about downloads though.	Oct 04 20:43
twitter	My home server has been under a form of attack for a long time.	Oct 04 20:44
schestowitz	I can serve it from my box at the office..	Oct 04 20:44
twitter	A never ending stream of bot clients have been downloading the largest files I serve.	Oct 04 20:44
schestowitz	But then I permit ISOsoft to use claims against the academic institution serving leaked specs.	Oct 04 20:44
twitter	These are files no human being would ever be interested in.	Oct 04 20:45
MinceR	why are they served then? :>	Oct 04 20:45
schestowitz	The Microsoft Munchkins tried this before. They harrassed the network managers to prevent even /messages/ (Linux advocacy) being posted.	Oct 04 20:45
twitter	I was interested in them.	Oct 04 20:45
MinceR	from that follows that you're not a human being :>	Oct 04 20:46
schestowitz	Let me see d/l speeds on the box at the office.	Oct 04 20:46
twitter	Finishing my thesis improved that. Sleep makes a person nicer.	Oct 04 20:46
schestowitz	OK, transferring.	Oct 04 20:48
schestowitz	In progress: http://baine.smb.man.ac.uk:8001/ooxml	Oct 04 20:48
twitter	That was quick. Good luck with the admins.	Oct 04 20:48
twitter	The network at my local university has been locked up hard. They claimed central control over everything and the ability to boot machines off at will.	Oct 04 20:49
twitter	Every machine owner must be identified before a machine is put on the network. It's all very nasty now.	Oct 04 20:50
twitter	Clueless copyright warriors are all over the Board of Directors, they listen to RIAA, M$ and other assholes.	Oct 04 20:51
twitter	One good thing is the control demanded over Winblows computers makes a great case for free software. They demand all winblows computers be centrally controlled for "emergency" patching.	Oct 04 20:53
schestowitz	Updated: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/1...	Oct 04 20:54
schestowitz	[Note #2: we now have a mirror listed at the bottom.]	Oct 04 20:54
zoobab	you can use lighttpd	Oct 04 20:54
zoobab	it resists to any /.	Oct 04 20:55
schestowitz	I can't test my mirror for speed because I'm on the same network (>1000KB/sec). What do you guys get?	Oct 04 20:55
schestowitz	http://baine.smb.man.ac.uk:8001/ooxml	Oct 04 20:55
schestowitz	zoobab: denial of service is no resistance. It's a loss of visitor...	Oct 04 20:56
twitter	U	Oct 04 20:56
twitter	US cable networks are all crimped at 60KB/s upload.	Oct 04 20:56
twitter	@home had no such limits.	Oct 04 20:56
zoobab	I get 350ko/sec from a well connected machine	Oct 04 20:56
schestowitz	That's excellent.	Oct 04 20:57
schestowitz	60 megs in 3 minutes.	Oct 04 20:57
schestowitz	Running on a dual-head Ubuntu box.	Oct 04 20:57
zoobab	385.64K/s	Oct 04 20:57
trmanco	100KB/S here	Oct 04 20:58
trmanco	erhm	Oct 04 20:58
trmanco	400KB/s	Oct 04 20:58
schestowitz	Let me see if I can grab a network monitor on it via SSH.	Oct 04 20:58
schestowitz	ksysguard	Oct 04 20:59
schestowitz	Hmmm... no network meter. zoobab what's KDE got? I have the panel one, but can't easily get to it from here.	Oct 04 21:00
schestowitz	I used to run php-shell ( a hack) to get uptime and average load off my host of schestowitz.com and other domains. Won't do for BN.	Oct 04 21:00
MinceR	strange, my ksysguard does have a network meter	Oct 04 21:02
MinceR	well, maybe not over ssh	Oct 04 21:02
zoobab	I use wget	Oct 04 21:04
zoobab	let me try links	Oct 04 21:04
zoobab	392 KiB/s	Oct 04 21:05
zoobab	it seems to saturate at 385kb/sec	Oct 04 21:05
schestowitz	MinceR: how do you get to it?	Oct 04 21:05
schestowitz	I must be missing t. It's vanilla KDE 3.5	Oct 04 21:05
MinceR	localhost/Network	Oct 04 21:06
MinceR	(there i'd choose Interfaces)	Oct 04 21:06
schestowitz	It give no meters	Oct 04 21:06
schestowitz	*gives	Oct 04 21:06
MinceR	there are a lot of meters here in localhost/Network/Interfaces/eth0/Receiver and Transmitter	Oct 04 21:06
schestowitz	it's just a "sensor browser"	Oct 04 21:07
schestowitz	I went to University with the maintainer of KSysGuard BTW. We were sort of friends...	Oct 04 21:07
schestowitz	John Tapsell	Oct 04 21:07
MinceR	well, it's strange though	Oct 04 21:07
trmanco	yay	Oct 04 21:08
MinceR	it says it's receiving "0" Data on eth0	Oct 04 21:08
trmanco	I can convert that 5000 page pdf into html	Oct 04 21:08
schestowitz	trmanco: please do.	Oct 04 21:08
trmanco	ok	Oct 04 21:08
MinceR	it seems pretty broken	Oct 04 21:08
schestowitz	That'll make an attractive thing for people to browse.	Oct 04 21:08
trmanco	I'm doind it right now Ill see how it looks when its finished	Oct 04 21:08
trmanco	done	Oct 04 21:10
trmanco	14 meg file	Oct 04 21:10
schestowitz	A _single_ html? The horror...	Oct 04 21:14
schestowitz	Sounds like a stress test for Web browser...	Oct 04 21:14
trmanco	yes	Oct 04 21:16
trmanco	with a frame	Oct 04 21:16
trmanco	but I'm generating a new one with some different options	Oct 04 21:16
schestowitz	They also have a new event planned for World's Strongest Man 2009. They'll find out who can carry the most volumes of OOXML. Legends say that no man was ever able to lift the monster. Some people tried, but OOXML broke their back. OOXML had them hospitalised for good. Good grief! What has ISO wrought?	Oct 04 21:16
MinceR	lol	Oct 04 21:17
MinceR	when will microsoft formally acknowledge their merger with ISO and rename it to Microsoft ISO or ISO Live?	Oct 04 21:18
zoobab	misosoft	Oct 04 21:19
schestowitz	http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content...	Oct 04 21:19
MinceR	nice	Oct 04 21:20
trmanco	gee	Oct 04 21:20
trmanco	this last conversion is taking for ever	Oct 04 21:20
MinceR	http://boycottnovell.com/wp-conte...	Oct 04 21:21
schestowitz	trmanco: do you want FTP to push this to?	Oct 04 21:21
schestowitz	My FTP on my site is disabled by the host, but if it's not over 100MB, E-mail might work.	Oct 04 21:21
schestowitz	Having this in an immediately-browsable form would be mint.	Oct 04 21:22
trmanco	sure	Oct 04 21:22
trmanco	but can't do anything yet	Oct 04 21:22
trmanco	the conversions is still not finished	Oct 04 21:22
schestowitz	trmanco: updates from Portugal: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/03/nat...	Oct 04 21:23
trmanco	this last one with a special flag is taking forever	Oct 04 21:23
trmanco	thanks	Oct 04 21:24
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twitter	you just got slashdotted http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=...	Oct 04 21:32
twitter	:)	Oct 04 21:32
twitter	Dustin Puryear of the BRLUG said that Slashdotting did not really up BRLUG mail list traffic.	Oct 04 21:33
zoobab	you are on /. now!	Oct 04 21:33
trmanco	cool	Oct 04 21:36
trmanco	well	Oct 04 21:36
trmanco	I have one in plain html	Oct 04 21:36
trmanco	and my other conversion is in html with png images from the pdf	Oct 04 21:36
trmanco	but you can barely read the on with png images	Oct 04 21:37
schestowitz	Shit.	Oct 04 21:38
schestowitz	That's why it's slow.	Oct 04 21:38
schestowitz	trmanco: can you mail it to me? r at schestowitz dot com	Oct 04 21:39
trmanco	sure	Oct 04 21:39
trmanco	whic one tho	Oct 04 21:39
schestowitz	brb	Oct 04 21:40
schestowitz	r at or s at	Oct 04 21:40
AVRS2	http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?... : “OK we slashdot their servers. Now what?”	Oct 04 21:41
zoobab	Roy, you don't have FTP, mirror is easy that way	Oct 04 21:42
zoobab	lftp> mirror -p	Oct 04 21:42
AVRS2	Was ODF not a SIS standard in Sweden already?	Oct 04 21:43
zoobab	maybe	Oct 04 21:43
schestowitz	if it gets too slow I'll just set a redirect from the page to the mirror.	Oct 04 21:44
AVRS2	Some sites say ODF Alliance reported last week that it's been approved by SIS.	Oct 04 21:44
trmanco	schestowitz, what version do you want?	Oct 04 21:44
trmanco	the plain html one?	Oct 04 21:44
schestowitz	AVRS2: I think it has.	Oct 04 21:44
schestowitz	Whichever works best.	Oct 04 21:45
trmanco	because the png on is hard to read	Oct 04 21:45
trmanco	one*	Oct 04 21:45
schestowitz	Are pngs the equations?	Oct 04 21:45
trmanco	?	Oct 04 21:46
trmanco	cool	Oct 04 21:52
trmanco	I can send both of them to you :P	Oct 04 21:52
schestowitz	Thanks.	Oct 04 21:53
trmanco	1st one is a 2 meg archive the other one has 16	Oct 04 21:53
schestowitz	Thnaks.	Oct 04 21:54
trmanco	r at right?	Oct 04 21:57
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trmanco	schestowitz,	Oct 04 21:59
schestowitz	yes. at my domain.	Oct 04 21:59
trmanco	ok	Oct 04 21:59
trmanco	uploading	Oct 04 22:01
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trmanco	schestowitz, sent	Oct 04 22:17
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schestowitz	The Slashdot effect is very unimpressive compared to Digg, but maybe just because it's Sat.	Oct 04 22:21
schestowitz	Got it.	Oct 04 22:22
trmanco	:-)	Oct 04 22:22
schestowitz	What da...? :-)	Oct 04 22:23
schestowitz	11000 files	Oct 04 22:23
trmanco	yes	Oct 04 22:24
trmanco	png's	Oct 04 22:24
schestowitz	I'll just upload the PNGs when the 'DDOS' is over.	Oct 04 22:24
trmanco	the 2mb on only has 3	Oct 04 22:24
trmanco	pngs+html files*	Oct 04 22:24
schestowitz	Firefox screams for air	Oct 04 22:26
trmanco	yes	Oct 04 22:27
trmanco	its huge	Oct 04 22:27
zoobab	and it is not the main link in the article	Oct 04 22:31
schestowitz	trmanco: updated: http://boycottnovell.com/20...	Oct 04 22:33
schestowitz	"we now have an HTML version of the core of OOXML, but please use this mirror (HTML), which should be faster."	Oct 04 22:33
schestowitz	zoobab: should I link to the HTML at the top?	Oct 04 22:34
trmanco	cool :)	Oct 04 22:35
trmanco	lol	Oct 04 22:35
trmanco	the title should be changed	Oct 04 22:36
trmanco	lol	Oct 04 22:36
schestowitz	I added somethng to the top	Oct 04 22:36
schestowitz	To diver people away from BN and into the mirror.	Oct 04 22:36
schestowitz	*divert	Oct 04 22:36
trmanco	the title of the html version of the odf :P	Oct 04 22:36
schestowitz	"readers have produced this <a href="http://baine.smb.man.ac.uk:8001...">HTML version</a> of the core of OOXML, so that you can access the specs quickly."	Oct 04 22:37
schestowitz	trmanco: can I attribute this to you (full name)?	Oct 04 22:37
trmanco	sure	Oct 04 22:37
trmanco	Tony Manco	Oct 04 22:37
schestowitz	You got a homepage for a link?	Oct 04 22:38
trmanco	sure	Oct 04 22:39
trmanco	open-mania.com	Oct 04 22:39
schestowitz	Kool.	Oct 04 22:39
trmanco	it is related	Oct 04 22:39
schestowitz	Check the link now.	Oct 04 22:39
trmanco	:-)	Oct 04 22:40
trmanco	koool	Oct 04 22:40
trmanco	but the mirror doesn't load anymore :\|	Oct 04 22:40
schestowitz	Ick. My mirror is down	Oct 04 22:40
schestowitz	You beat me to it.	Oct 04 22:40
trmanco	schestowitz, and if you don't mind, can you change the <title></title> of the index file to something different	Oct 04 22:41
schestowitz	roy@baine:~$ uptime	Oct 04 22:41
schestowitz	23:29:27 up 30 days, 11:57, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.25, 0.26	Oct 04 22:41
trmanco	30 days thats good	Oct 04 22:41
trmanco	23:54:43 up 202 days, 12:53, 8 users, load average: 11.02, 12.74, 11.54	Oct 04 22:42
trmanco	not my computer	Oct 04 22:42
trmanco	just a shell server running centOS	Oct 04 22:42
twitter	I only have 23 days, but that's because a hurricane blew out my power.	Oct 04 22:42
twitter	Laptops stayed up, ha ha.	Oct 04 22:43
schestowitz	:-(	Oct 04 22:43
trmanco	:P	Oct 04 22:43
schestowitz	We need another mirror.	Oct 04 22:43
trmanco	:\|	Oct 04 22:43
schestowitz	If I link to BN, it could fall. 13 MB HTML...	Oct 04 22:43
twitter	that corral cache thing?	Oct 04 22:44
schestowitz	I'd rather not..	Oct 04 22:45
schestowitz	The connection on that server is still fine.	Oct 04 22:45
schestowitz	It's as though something blocked HTTP due to high load.	Oct 04 22:46
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trmanco	free hosting time	Oct 04 22:50
trmanco	I could try and mirror it but my host probably won't last too long	Oct 04 22:51
twitter	your admins are watching?	Oct 04 22:51
schestowitz	We can try	Oct 04 22:51
schestowitz	twitter: doubtful, but maybe it's automated.	Oct 04 22:51
trmanco	try to mirror*	Oct 04 22:51
schestowitz	Say 1000 people an hour click this link...	Oct 04 22:51
schestowitz	That's 13 gigs per hour.	Oct 04 22:51
schestowitz	This is a 100MBit Ethernet, but practically it's less.	Oct 04 22:52
schestowitz	The Manchester Computing backbone (or JANET) is 2GBit, IIRC. Maybe it's expanded now.	Oct 04 22:52
trmanco	wait	Oct 04 22:53
trmanco	I got the solution	Oct 04 22:53
twitter	They were watching me if the M$ smear team did the same thing to me that it did to you. People knew who I was before I walked in. You are lucky that people told you about what happened.	Oct 04 22:53
trmanco	my isp can mirror it	Oct 04 22:53
schestowitz	AVRS2 has it on gnutella.	Oct 04 22:53
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AVRS2	Why not torrent, though?	Oct 04 23:00
schestowitz	I could put copies on schestowitz.com and risk taking /that/ down.	Oct 04 23:00
AVRS2	Who knows how to publish torrents?	Oct 04 23:00
schestowitz	Oh, I know!	Oct 04 23:01
schestowitz	I have one site whose uptime I can little about	Oct 04 23:02
schestowitz	BSD-based.	Oct 04 23:02
trmanco	my isp isn't helping	Oct 04 23:02
MinceR	guardian% uptime	Oct 04 23:05
MinceR	01:09:22 up 268 days, 10:14, 12 users, load average: 0.27, 0.17, 0.18	Oct 04 23:05
MinceR	that's my NAT box/home server :)	Oct 04 23:05
trmanco	uploading	Oct 04 23:06
schestowitz	OK	Oct 04 23:08
schestowitz	Another update: I made another mirror	Oct 04 23:08
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schestowitz	"Update #4 (04/10/2008): the first mirror was downed by the load (thousands of OOXML pages combined with the Slashdot effect can do that), so here is a second mirror. If it’s down as well, come back later when there’s less hammering on the servers."	Oct 04 23:08
zoobab	Roy you have adds for Statoil, they were pro-OOXML	Oct 04 23:09
schestowitz	I wonder if it'll exceed 20 GB bandwidth on BN alone (not including mirrors)	Oct 04 23:09
schestowitz	zoobab: it's almost impossible to block them one by one.	Oct 04 23:09
schestowitz	We already block several known 'antis'	Oct 04 23:10
twitter	reading http://www.howto.com.my/2008/internet/h...	Oct 04 23:10
AVRS2	twitter: I think KTorrent supports publishing	Oct 04 23:11
trmanco	schestowitz, http://trmanco.110mb.com/	Oct 04 23:12
trmanco	lol	Oct 04 23:12
schestowitz	The second mirror is still up	Oct 04 23:12
AVRS2	But probably they all do… the important thing is to find a tracker.	Oct 04 23:12
trmanco	I don't know how long that free hosting is going to stay up but I have plenty of traffic	Oct 04 23:12
schestowitz	<AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?u rn:sha1:DI66L7K5X67AODO5ZQCQFFOT4BTPPM IK">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OfficeO penXML-RELAXNG-Strict.zip</a> [93.33& amp;nbsp;KiB]</li>	Oct 04 23:13
schestowitz	<AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn: sha1:3BCIPRBMEFWJWV6ETUQ4KNC ZABVC4Q53">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OfficeOpenXML-Sprea dsheetMLStyles.zip</a>&a mp;nbsp;[81.81 K iB]</li>	Oct 04 23:13
schestowitz	<AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1 :KHWQ62GVCBLHHWYU5BH6GV2 767WG2ULN">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OfficeOpenXML-XM LSchema-Strict.zip</a>  [163.89 KiB]</li>	Oct 04 23:13
schestowitz	<AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1:CLHTKY B5AMXBBR36XTFHDSRW4G USGLVU">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OpenPackaging Conventions-RELAXNG.zip</a>& nbsp;[2.50 KiB]</li>	Oct 04 23:13
schestowitz	<AVRS2>	Oct 04 23:13
schestowitz	<AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?u rn:sha1:3A25EBKJ5GW3RYS5YHPA54DGK 5ODJA54">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OpenPackaging Conventions-XMLSchema.zip </a> [3.63 KiB]</li>	Oct 04 23:13
schestowitz	<AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1:B XV2GGINSSR5P UDQ7IM2GGP7Z5PNV 5UK">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/1081.pdf</a>& nbsp;[1.60& nbsp;MiB]</li>	Oct 04 23:13
schestowitz	<AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1:KW KSTBYGPWY7GIAG3QERHGI KGTEIYH3U">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/1082.pdf</a> [839.08  KiB]</li>	Oct 04 23:13
schestowitz	<AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha 1:MQCIT7JEK6JIG4Q2UQWAIB3 LJHRV5III">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OfficeOpenXML-REL AXNG-Transitional.zip</a>& nbsp;[104.52 KiB]</li>	Oct 04 23:13
schestowitz	<AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1: CAFIMLX375NCTNXEWVGCJBQBB4I7 UZAG">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/OfficeOpenXML-XMLSch ema-Transitional.zip</a> [183.97 KiB]</li>	Oct 04 23:13
schestowitz	<AVRS2>	Oct 04 23:13
schestowitz	<AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1:3Q E4KSD72S2J2WCJJODUOSP67SX FLKCB">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML) specification pre-IS/1083.pdf</a > [9.63 MiB]</li>	Oct 04 23:13
schestowitz	<AVRS2> <li><a href="/uri-res/N2R?urn:sha1:SOXBN UZQ2EOQ4RX6PIGWSNCWDREWBTB 6">Microsoft Office Open XML (OOXML	Oct 04 23:13
schestowitz	urn:sha1:SOXBNUZQ2EOQ4RX6PI GWSNCWDREWBTB6 may be a Gnutella hash for 1080.pdf	Oct 04 23:14
AVRS2	that last one is included somewhere in the ones full of HTML.	Oct 04 23:16
schestowitz	Yes, sorry about that.	Oct 04 23:17
*schestowitz was hasty		Oct 04 23:17
schestowitz	BTW, the second mirror is still up and running (BSD)	Oct 04 23:17
trmanco	schestowitz, not found	Oct 04 23:17
PetoKraus	hmm	Oct 04 23:18
schestowitz	Which one?	Oct 04 23:18
PetoKraus	where?	Oct 04 23:18
trmanco	http://boycottnovell.com/2008/...	Oct 04 23:18
schestowitz	danielsorogon?	Oct 04 23:18
PetoKraus	o.O	Oct 04 23:18
AVRS2	not found	Oct 04 23:18
PetoKraus	i'll mirror as well, if you need to	Oct 04 23:19
PetoKraus	should have couple gigs of bandwith....	Oct 04 23:19
AVRS2	Why is it not found? The server didn't seem slow to me.	Oct 04 23:19
schestowitz	AVRS2: bn is down??	Oct 04 23:19
schestowitz	Worked for me a minute ago	Oct 04 23:20
AVRS2	schestowitz: no, only the post was removed!	Oct 04 23:20
schestowitz	Oh FUCK	Oct 04 23:20
PetoKraus	:D	Oct 04 23:20
schestowitz	I made it private due to WP bug	Oct 04 23:20
schestowitz	Fixed now.	Oct 04 23:20
AVRS2	heh	Oct 04 23:20
trmanco	yes fixed	Oct 04 23:20
PetoKraus	right so, what bunch of files you need to host?	Oct 04 23:21
trmanco	schestowitz, is you need another mirror -> http://trmanco.110mb.com/	Oct 04 23:21
schestowitz	Probably been like this since 10 minutes ago	Oct 04 23:21
trmanco	I know it look kinda stupid (the link) but it will remove some load while it remains online	Oct 04 23:21
trmanco	looks*	Oct 04 23:22
PetoKraus	hehe	Oct 04 23:23
PetoKraus	what are all those different files (1080 - 83)?	Oct 04 23:24
schestowitz	Updatedx5: have added the new mirror	Oct 04 23:24
trmanco	:-D	Oct 04 23:25
trmanco	wow	Oct 04 23:26
trmanco	traffic is increasing at a very high pace	Oct 04 23:26
schestowitz	LOL" We laugh at AlexH for thinking that because a bug existed in a calculation, it should be specified and mandated that all future calculations contain the same bug, in case people corrected for it?" < http://news.slashdot.org/articl... >	Oct 04 23:27
schestowitz	tessier: I found this .sig: "CmdrTaco is a Twitter sock-puppet."	Oct 04 23:29
tessier	What does that mean?	Oct 04 23:29
schestowitz	Oops. twitter: I found this .sig: "CmdrTaco is a Twitter sock-puppet."	Oct 04 23:29
MinceR	:)	Oct 04 23:30
PetoKraus	(if you need it, http://pk.gjhak.sk/.storage/OOX...)	Oct 04 23:31
PetoKraus	where's the traffic monitor?	Oct 04 23:31
schestowitz	Thanks, PetoKraus. I'll add it.	Oct 04 23:32
trmanco	cool	Oct 04 23:33
schestowitz	Added	Oct 04 23:33
schestowitz	It's good cause the PDF is the biggest bast4rd	Oct 04 23:34
trmanco	yes	Oct 04 23:34
trmanco	53 megs	Oct 04 23:34
PetoKraus	well	Oct 04 23:34
trmanco	87 megs in 10 minutes	Oct 04 23:35
trmanco	:O	Oct 04 23:35
schestowitz	This helps in spreading the load.	Oct 04 23:35
PetoKraus	where's the traffic monitor?	Oct 04 23:36
schestowitz	Portugal, Slovakia, UK and sunny California.	Oct 04 23:36
schestowitz	PetoKraus: which one?	Oct 04 23:36
PetoKraus	for BN	Oct 04 23:36
schestowitz	It's behind password	Oct 04 23:37
PetoKraus	alright	Oct 04 23:39
PetoKraus	good luck, see you tomorrow ;)	Oct 04 23:39
schestowitz	gn	Oct 04 23:39
zoobab	gn	Oct 04 23:41
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schestowitz	Alex Brown retires!	Oct 04 23:45
schestowitz	http://adjb.net/index.php?entr...	Oct 04 23:45
schestowitz	Maybe it's all that pressure.	Oct 04 23:47
AVRS2	gn	Oct 04 23:53
trmanco	well	Oct 04 23:58
trmanco	time to go to bed	Oct 04 23:58
trmanco	good night everyone...	Oct 04 23:58
schestowitz	IBM is a no-show. http://adjb.net/index.php?entry...	Oct 04 23:58
schestowitz	They save the charade and the plane ticket. Good stuff. Alex Brown writes "Bye Byte IBM?" instead of "Bye Bye ISO".	Oct 04 23:59

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