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| schestowitz | Microsoft has begun pressuring the Chinese to abandon Windows: ""The computer is mine", one angry blogger penned, "Microsoft has no right to control my hardware without my agreement", the poor fool thought." http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/n... | Oct 22 17:27 |
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| mib_8hsxxh | any novelians there ? | Oct 22 17:34 |
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| schestowitz | Here? | Oct 22 17:34 |
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| PetoKraus | novelians? | Oct 22 17:35 |
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| schestowitz | Novellers maybe. | Oct 22 17:36 |
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| schestowitz | We sometimes have them intruding here. x-| | Oct 22 17:36 |
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| mib_8hsxxh | right | Oct 22 17:37 |
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| schestowitz | benJIman report to some of his Novell/OpenSUSE buddies. | Oct 22 17:37 |
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| mib_8hsxxh | any layoff rumors yet ? | Oct 22 17:37 |
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| schestowitz | And we have at least one 'MS spy' here, but I can't tell which one it is. | Oct 22 17:38 |
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| schestowitz | mib_8hsxxh: it's probably coming. | Oct 22 17:38 |
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| mib_8hsxxh | ok thx | Oct 22 17:38 |
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| schestowitz | They have delayed it for a while and the stock is still down today (below $5) | Oct 22 17:38 |
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| schestowitz | mib_8hsxxh: I don't wish to see layoffs. | Oct 22 17:38 |
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| schestowitz | Unless... | Oct 22 17:38 |
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| mib_8hsxxh | neither do I | Oct 22 17:38 |
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| schestowitz | It's Hovsepian, Steinman, jafee and the other cronies who arranged the sellout. | Oct 22 17:39 |
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| mib_8hsxxh | lol | Oct 22 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | It's them who deserve to go. | Oct 22 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | Noorda would send them off if he was still around. | Oct 22 17:39 |
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| mib_8hsxxh | I hear that all the time | Oct 22 17:40 |
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| schestowitz | They punished the engineers. | Oct 22 17:40 |
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| schestowitz | To tell you the truth, I'm not surprised. | Oct 22 17:40 |
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| mib_8hsxxh | like UTAH has been self-sufficient on energy plugging him on the electrical network | Oct 22 17:40 |
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| schestowitz | The corporate culture some of them come from is Microsoft's 'patent'. | Oct 22 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | *parent | Oct 22 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell_appoint... | Oct 22 17:42 |
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| twitter | ATT, US Steel and Standard Oil are the intellectual parents of M$. | Oct 22 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | "..responsible for IBM's security, directory, and networking software business." | Oct 22 17:42 |
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| twitter | Steel, glass, oil and telco monopolies are their examples. | Oct 22 17:42 |
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| twitter | They have been innovators in slavery though. | Oct 22 17:43 |
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| schestowitz | IBM Influence in Novell : http://boycottnovell.com/2008/09... | Oct 22 17:43 |
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| twitter | http://catb.org/jargon/html/I/IBM.html | Oct 22 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/10/22/apricot_... | Oct 22 17:51 |
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| twitter | wow, what a blast of comments. I'm not the only person who thought XP only was a bad idea. | Oct 22 17:54 |
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| twitter | Actually, I think XP on them at all is a bad idea. | Oct 22 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | They wrote a similar article to mine.. I only noticed that a moment ago. | Oct 22 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | Try to help me find MSI-MS connections. | Oct 22 17:55 |
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| twitter | I'd just google your site. | Oct 22 17:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/234651/ms... < MSI Systems Integrators Earns Gold Certified Partner Status in Microsoft Partner Program > | Oct 22 17:56 |
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| schestowitz | MSI, Golf-certified MS partner, chooses Ballnux, then dumps it and throws Linux FUD. Precious! | Oct 22 17:56 |
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| twitter | They crippled it first with a weak battery, http://boycottnovell.com/2008/08/04/msi-cri... | Oct 22 18:01 |
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| twitter | I'd never seen a picture of Wind I liked and I remember reading about a big M$ executive pushing for small computers years ago, think it was a Register article. | Oct 22 18:02 |
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| schestowitz | That too. Illusion of choice of apathy. | Oct 22 18:02 |
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| twitter | I ignored it at the time because I had no interest in a M$ laptop with difficult hardware. | Oct 22 18:02 |
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| schestowitz | Let's see if they keep the promise and choose (or try) another distro that's at least optimised for this device. Just left a comment here: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/22/... | Oct 22 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | I'll just do a quick post about Novell's latest software patents (Meeks got one) | Oct 22 18:04 |
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| *benJIman scrolls up to see what schestowitz wanted him to report. | Oct 22 18:10 |
| schestowitz | It's posted now: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/22/mi... | Oct 22 18:13 |
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| twitter | he's looking for M$ influence at MSI, can you help Benji? | Oct 22 18:13 |
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| schestowitz | MSI stands for MicroSoft Incorporated. | Oct 22 18:14 |
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| twitter | you know, thinks like executive and cash transfusions | Oct 22 18:14 |
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| schestowitz | MSFT is Microsoft Corp. | Oct 22 18:14 |
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| twitter | Now I'm confused. What is the MSI wind? | Oct 22 18:14 |
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| twitter | Microsoft Incorporated Wind? | Oct 22 18:14 |
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| twitter | duh, that's a joke. slowwwww me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro-S... | Oct 22 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | You're all TERRO~1!! ALL OF YOU! :-) http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/10/22/eu.a... | Oct 22 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft sued in China for black screen of death < http://www.channelregister.co.uk/20... > | Oct 22 18:17 |
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| twitter | ha ha | Oct 22 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | They got 'addicted' like gates wanted them too (he said addicted) | Oct 22 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | BillG has decided that the cure to this disease will no longer be free. | Oct 22 18:17 |
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| twitter | so much for the great China growth potential. | Oct 22 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | Pay up or drop dead. | Oct 22 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | Black screen of death = black plague. | Oct 22 18:17 |
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| twitter | They are going to give him the finger. | Oct 22 18:18 |
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| schestowitz | 1 billion+ people at risk of computer withdrawal syste, | Oct 22 18:18 |
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| schestowitz | To me, this means in advance that Microsoft is struggling to keep investors happy. | Oct 22 18:18 |
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| schestowitz | It's squeezing the goose for more golden eggs and not it's slaughtering the goose because it's growing impatient for the laying of eggs. | Oct 22 18:19 |
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| twitter | those people who have less than 1/2 of what they bought ten years ago? | Oct 22 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | When the goose dies, Linux spreads like fire in China. | Oct 22 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | Lo and behold! | Oct 22 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | Chinese bloggers publicly slam Microsoft in the Land of Censorship: | Oct 22 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/10/2... | Oct 22 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | "China's vocal bloggers seemed stunned that their computers seemed to have phoned Microsoft for the anti-piracy tool without asking." | Oct 22 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | No sh*, Sherlock | Oct 22 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | When Windows is installed on the PC, that PC is owned and controlled by Mirosoft. Read the EULA. Is the Chinese version of the EULA more ambiguous or jargon-filled? | Oct 22 18:20 |
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| twitter | They thought they had the source code. | Oct 22 18:20 |
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| schestowitz | Na | Oct 22 18:20 |
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| schestowitz | Just the suppressive regime | Oct 22 18:20 |
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| schestowitz | Not sure if due to worries about back door or /REQUEST/ for back doors. | Oct 22 18:21 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft dive the UK govermment and police back-door access to Windows. | Oct 22 18:21 |
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| twitter | That regime thought it would not suffer this because it had the source code. | Oct 22 18:21 |
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| schestowitz | It is all well documented and confirmed. | Oct 22 18:21 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft shies away when it's brought up and its Munchkins attack the messenger or deby that Heise/BBC are credible. | Oct 22 18:21 |
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| schestowitz | They have contengencies though. | Oct 22 18:22 |
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| twitter | The anger is government tolerated, that makes it close to government statement. Plausible deniability and all | Oct 22 18:22 |
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| schestowitz | They have a better office suite than MS Office in the making (no English version) and they also have some localised GNU/Linux distros | Oct 22 18:22 |
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| schestowitz | The next few years will therefore be very interesting. | Oct 22 18:22 |
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| twitter | China is not going to put up with being bugged by M$. | Oct 22 18:23 |
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| schestowitz | Woohoo: Instant-on Dell Desktop to Debut Next Week < http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/arti... >> | Oct 22 18:23 |
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| schestowitz | I wonder if their deal with Microsoft/Novell affects the cost of this in some way. | Oct 22 18:23 |
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| twitter | When M$ squeezes, China will dump. | Oct 22 18:23 |
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| schestowitz | That's Linux on tens of millions Dell laptops. | Oct 22 18:24 |
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| schestowitz | Ah! For the change, the LF didn't hire shills like Al Gillen and IDC to do lying for Linux. | Oct 22 18:25 |
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| schestowitz | Linux Foundation Publishes Study Estimating the Value of Linux < http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/linux-fo... > | Oct 22 18:26 |
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| schestowitz | Brian Proffitt is there too... he's the long-time LinuxToday editor. | Oct 22 18:26 |
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| schestowitz | The DB of BN runs away sometimes. I wonder if it's to do with the load on the server (quite high today). WP generates errors like 10% of the time today. | Oct 22 18:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/tec... "In a windowless room on Microsoft’s campus here, T. J. Campana, a cybercrime investigator, connects an unprotected computer running an early version of Windows XP to the Internet. In about 30 seconds the computer is “owned.”" | Oct 22 18:39 |
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| schestowitz | NOVL is down 5% at the moment. Microsoft -5.3%... the whole market is sinking for reasons that are still guesses: http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AppZD... | Oct 22 18:42 |
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| twitter | trouble with China sounds like a good reason. | Oct 22 18:45 |
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| twitter | If they won't pay their license fees, who will? | Oct 22 18:45 |
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| twitter | M$ has touted growth in china for years. | Oct 22 18:45 |
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| twitter | The IP Empire was a pipe dream. | Oct 22 18:46 |
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| schestowitz | They can still sell arms. | Oct 22 18:46 |
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| twitter | The US? | Oct 22 18:46 |
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| twitter | sure, but that won't make money for M$ | Oct 22 18:46 |
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| schestowitz | It would not. They sell cyber-arms | Oct 22 18:47 |
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| twitter | M$ is part of the Dow Jones Average. | Oct 22 18:47 |
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| schestowitz | Back door edition: http://gadgets.boingboing.n... | Oct 22 18:47 |
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| twitter | NYT reporting on botnets may also harm M$. Their ability to restrain the press is fading with their advertising budget and stock price. | Oct 22 18:49 |
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| twitter | The end will come quickly. | Oct 22 18:49 |
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| twitter | Remember Time calling M$ an "empire in rapid decline"? | Oct 22 18:50 |
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| twitter | In Slog terms, their failure is so large that it's becoming part of the mythos of IT, epic fail. | Oct 22 18:51 |
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| schestowitz | Time?? | Oct 22 18:51 |
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| schestowitz | The same magazine that published Gates glorification from Gates' own buddies? | Oct 22 18:51 |
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| twitter | yep, want link? | Oct 22 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.physorg.com/news143820388.html ( Dutch youths convicted of virtual theft ) | Oct 22 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, please (link) | Oct 22 18:54 |
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| twitter | http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/192990 , http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/203202 and finally http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0... | Oct 22 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | I think I remember this article. | Oct 22 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | Yahoo exposed so much of Microsoft's troubles and gave it nothing. | Oct 22 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | Within about 3 months (after the bid) the value of Microsoft fell over $40bn and $90bn within about 5-6 | Oct 22 18:55 |
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| twitter | I'm surprised the article is still there. Time wants a DRM world and thought M$ was their bitch. | Oct 22 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | "In 2007, PC Magazine, PC World, the Atlantic Monthly, ZDNet, the Independent, EWeek, ITWeek, Dvorak, CNet and Network World all agreed with 90% of IT managers in thinking that Vista should be avoided. ExtremeTech wrote Vista's obituary in 2008. This was followed by USA Today and Time, which called Microsoft an "empire in rapid decline". Even Dan Lyons sees, "a gloomy Vista for Microsoft." " | Oct 22 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | Good assortment. | Oct 22 18:56 |
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| twitter | M$ troubles were well underway before the Yahoo distraction. | Oct 22 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | Gatess himself hates DRM | Oct 22 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | He said you should rip your newly-bought CDs | Oct 22 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | he also 'pirates' films in YouTube, by his own admission. | Oct 22 18:57 |
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| twitter | Really? The NDA man himself? | Oct 22 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | And he hates patents.... well, he did before he became a monopolist (and a hypocrite) | Oct 22 18:57 |
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| twitter | DRM is fine by him as long as he's in charge. | Oct 22 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, all true. | Oct 22 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | I can find the links from repuitable publications with quotes. | Oct 22 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | Quotes from the -man- wuss himself. | Oct 22 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | And as long as it's _Windows_ DRM | Oct 22 18:58 |
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| twitter | He has deprived people of their software freedom for decades, digital restrictions flow directly from that effort. | Oct 22 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | Remember how Microsoft harasses Apple over DRM (iTunes) at all where Apple has control | Oct 22 18:58 |
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| twitter | If he says other things, he's lying or fooling himself. | Oct 22 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | .Well, it's 'for the investor' | Oct 22 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | LEt me find something I found moments ago. | Oct 22 18:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://blog.linuxtoday.com/blog/2... "So it all comes back to the same old story-- don't trust the suits because their business models are based on exploitation, and even when they profit handsomely from Linux it's shameful and not mentioned in polite company." | Oct 22 18:59 |
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| schestowitz | This includes Novell and IBM. Can't trust them. They exploit. | Oct 22 18:59 |
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| twitter | Laws can protect software freedom in any case. | Oct 22 18:59 |
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| schestowitz | I'm gonna for a quick round through MS news. Should be fun. I'll spew the findings here. | Oct 22 19:00 |
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| twitter | People should be punished for their crimes. | Oct 22 19:00 |
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| twitter | have fun with the round up | Oct 22 19:00 |
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| schestowitz | I'll report as I go along. | Oct 22 19:01 |
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| schestowitz | Whoa. Microsoft Wttch has /really/ slown down. | Oct 22 19:01 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe it's a good sign | Oct 22 19:01 |
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| schestowitz | .Joe Wilcox made just 5 posts in a week. | Oct 22 19:02 |
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| schestowitz | It used to be like 3 a day | Oct 22 19:02 |
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| schestowitz | And his RSS feed keeps breaking for some reason. | Oct 22 19:02 |
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| twitter | http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:AAPL | Oct 22 19:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/corpora... ""A month ago, I would have bet Microsoft could push past the U.S. economic crisis unscathed. But as the bears bite overseas bulls, Microsoft won't avoid being mauled. | Oct 22 19:03 |
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| twitter | Wachovia lost $24 billion | Oct 22 19:03 |
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| schestowitz | They'll blame the recession tomorrow.... and the 'PIRATES'!!! | Oct 22 19:03 |
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| twitter | last quarter | Oct 22 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | Arrrr.... them evil pirates 'steal' from Mister Softee | Oct 22 19:04 |
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| twitter | Yesterday was anti-pirate day, woot. | Oct 22 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | Propaganda day. | Oct 22 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | They exploited this for BSA chanting | Oct 22 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | .The BSA pressured journalists. | Oct 22 19:04 |
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| twitter | I took down my jolly rogers and promised to never say "arrr" again. | Oct 22 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | Or that's what I read... or got the impression of. | Oct 22 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | It's more like awareness day for whitepapers against free (gratis/libre) s/w | Oct 22 19:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/marketing/why_i... "News Commentary. For weeks, I've watched Microsoft's "I'm a PC" commercials. As a marketing campaign, my verdict: Fail." | Oct 22 19:06 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft Watch displaying anti-MS ads. | Oct 22 19:06 |
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| twitter | I'm going to have to add those things to my M$ Death Watch journal. | Oct 22 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | Huh? | Oct 22 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | Never seen that. | Oct 22 19:07 |
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| twitter | It's relatively new. Not refined like the Vista Failure Log. | Oct 22 19:08 |
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| twitter | http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/213707 | Oct 22 19:08 |
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| twitter | The China WGA rejection is big news. Lots of submissions on the firehose. | Oct 22 19:09 |
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| twitter | Like I've said, M$ is not going to make it through the downturn. | Oct 22 19:10 |
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| twitter | Don't feel sad for the employees, they will be able to find honest work. | Oct 22 19:10 |
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| schestowitz | New Scientist: Microsoft accused of hacking in piracy clampdown < http://technology.newscientist.com/channel/tech/... > | Oct 22 19:10 |
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| schestowitz | More people will become aware of the danger of blobs on their PCs | Oct 22 19:11 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: no, the employees that are discarded do more damage elsewhere. Watch Nokia and MSBBC, for instance. | Oct 22 19:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.forbes.com/technology/2008/10/20... : Microsoft Xbox: Not Ready For Primetime | Oct 22 19:13 |
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| schestowitz | The XBox lawsuit reports are all over the place this week. | Oct 22 19:14 |
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| schestowitz | is Nokia GPL-allergic? http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Sou... "By choosing the Eclipse Public License as the license for the software to come out of the Symbian Foundation, the group takes a road safely chosen. The Eclipse Foundation welcomes the foundation’s support. But what about | Oct 22 19:21 |
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| schestowitz | the GPL?" | Oct 22 19:21 |
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| schestowitz | Ouch. http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.p... "As for you Carla, you should count all the Microsoft ads on the Linux Today website and give that some serious thought - just where is your paycheck coming from?" | Oct 22 19:31 |
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| twitter | M$ employees can't do as much harm if the company is bankrupt and repudiated and they are dispersed to honest work. | Oct 22 19:34 |
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| twitter | honest work, like waiting tables. I was just reading an RMS transcript about honest living yesterday. I'll try to find it. | Oct 22 19:40 |
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| twitter | Novell flunks, 9.4 % | Oct 22 19:40 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, I know. Gardening too. | Oct 22 19:40 |
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| schestowitz | he lectured about it here in Manchester. | Oct 22 19:40 |
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| twitter | good lectures | Oct 22 19:40 |
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| schestowitz | People think that the idea of earning less money is worse than suicide or something. | Oct 22 19:40 |
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| schestowitz | Ask "seller_liar" from Brazil about ethics and money... | Oct 22 19:41 |
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| twitter | Those with wealth and power like to say, "Do as I say or you will starve" | Oct 22 19:41 |
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| schestowitz | People give up on ethics for another little extra buck. | Oct 22 19:41 |
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| twitter | Those who have given up their ethics deserve to fail. | Oct 22 19:41 |
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| twitter | If most of us acted like RMS, the rich and powerful would not be able to abuse anyone. | Oct 22 19:42 |
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| twitter | They would be in jail. | Oct 22 19:43 |
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| MinceR | then they wouldn't be rich or powerful | Oct 22 19:44 |
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| schestowitz | But they are not in jail | Oct 22 19:44 |
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| schestowitz | Some of them should be. | Oct 22 19:44 |
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| schestowitz | As long as the law is written by the affluent, it does not work that way. | Oct 22 19:44 |
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| schestowitz | It's those who can't afford to buy stuff (i.e. the poor/abused) who are most likely to be jailed. | Oct 22 19:44 |
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| twitter | Yes, it's funny how a grocery store clerk might end up in jail for stealing a few hundred dollars from a register, but the CEO gets a golden parachute for a merger that bankrupts the company and screws everyone. | Oct 22 19:47 |
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| twitter | That kind of thing would not happen if people stood up to it. | Oct 22 19:47 |
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| schestowitz | Law are for people, 'superhumans' (in America that's athletes and rich people) are a little bit above the law. | Oct 22 19:48 |
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| schestowitz | They can also pay bail money, i.e. bribe the system to leave them alone. | Oct 22 19:48 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft seen lowering outlook: http://uk.reuters.com/artic... | Oct 22 19:49 |
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| schestowitz | "Microsoft's shares have plunged to an eight-year low and its rivals such as SAP AG (SAPG.DE: Quote, Profile, Research) have warned of tighter demand. | Oct 22 19:49 |
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| schestowitz | " | Oct 22 19:49 |
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| twitter | It was not always this way. People really did use to limit their salaries and compensation for the good of the company. | Oct 22 19:50 |
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| PetoKraus | WHY the HELL is my CV saved in .doc?!? | Oct 22 19:50 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft cancels Fallout 3 in India : http://www.computerandvideogames.c... | Oct 22 19:50 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: where? | Oct 22 19:50 |
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| twitter | I have relatives who lived through the depression. | Oct 22 19:50 |
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| twitter | They knew better than to rape their companies. | Oct 22 19:51 |
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| PetoKraus | schestowitz: on my PC | Oct 22 19:51 |
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| PetoKraus | :S | Oct 22 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe they grew up in a different environemtn. | Oct 22 19:51 |
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| twitter | Peto, just print to pdf. It looks better that way. | Oct 22 19:51 |
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| schestowitz | One where people cares about their environment (social env.) a little more. | Oct 22 19:52 |
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| twitter | Hardly anyone asks for .DOC anymore. | Oct 22 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | *cared | Oct 22 19:52 |
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| twitter | They grew up angry at the last gang of corporate rapists. | Oct 22 19:52 |
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| PetoKraus | well, i don't know | Oct 22 19:52 |
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| PetoKraus | i am sure i saved everything into odf | Oct 22 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | Another example of rich theif asked for their opinions on stuff they don't understand: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2333088,00.asp ( Bill Gates Adds His Voice to White Spaces Debate ) | Oct 22 19:53 |
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| schestowitz | Who RUNS the country? | Oct 22 19:53 |
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| schestowitz | Rich elite, that's who | Oct 22 19:53 |
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| twitter | Country, meet ground. Ground meet country. | Oct 22 19:54 |
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| schestowitz | "The Microsoft chairman on Monday spoke separately with Federal Communications Commission Chairman Kevin Martin and Democratic Commissioner Michael Copps to urge passage of a final white spaces rule on November 4. " | Oct 22 19:55 |
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| schestowitz | Since when is Gates white space expert? | Oct 22 19:55 |
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| schestowitz | Can they not ask an impartial professor? | Oct 22 19:55 |
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| schestowitz | No, they have to ask someone rich. Rich people have more money, so they must know everything better. | Oct 22 19:55 |
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| twitter | Congress has taken testimony from Bose and Reed. | Oct 22 19:55 |
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| twitter | Mr. Gates is showboating, propping himself up as technically aware and business aware. | Oct 22 19:56 |
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| twitter | He's saying, "this can make money for me and others" | Oct 22 19:56 |
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| twitter | That's not a bad argument. The devil is in the details. | Oct 22 19:57 |
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| twitter | Broadcast is a waste of spectrum. | Oct 22 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft uses D.C. muscle to squash Google-Yahoo deal : http://blogs.computerworld.com/microsoft_uses_... | Oct 22 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | I love an evening with good corruption to witness. | Oct 22 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | And Novell befriends these people? | Oct 22 19:57 |
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| twitter | We shall see if the deal is squashed anywhere but the Wintel press. | Oct 22 19:58 |
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| twitter | I'm glad some of the corruption is being exposed. | Oct 22 19:59 |
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| schestowitz | Exposed /where/? | Oct 22 19:59 |
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| schestowitz | In Time? | Oct 22 19:59 |
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| schestowitz | No, all these magazines cover no corruption. | Oct 22 19:59 |
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| schestowitz | For 10 years they have ignored people who warned about the economic collapse. How come? | Oct 22 19:59 |
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| twitter | Brainwash. | Oct 22 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | For years people have laughed at the idea of Mcirosoft dying. Where are we today with Vista, xb0rks, etc.? | Oct 22 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | No, media control. | Oct 22 20:00 |
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| twitter | Rich people too busy packing up factories to send to China. | Oct 22 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | And editors that are loyal to disinfo resonance and edvertisers. | Oct 22 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | adver | Oct 22 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | Good for China. | Oct 22 20:01 |
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| schestowitz | More wintel disinfo: http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=895033 ( Advertisers wary of Google, Yahoo deal ) | Oct 22 20:01 |
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| schestowitz | It's established by now that it's not true. | Oct 22 20:02 |
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| twitter | Not good for China. Money in the hands of their government is bad for everyone there. | Oct 22 20:02 |
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| schestowitz | The deal was shown to have been mischarachterised by the shills and corrupt politicians Mirosoft recruited (google "lawmedia") | Oct 22 20:02 |
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| schestowitz | No better than money in the hands og GWB | Oct 22 20:03 |
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| twitter | I have more hope for freedom in a richer USA than a poorer one and less hope for freedom in a richer China than a poorer one. | Oct 22 20:04 |
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| twitter | GWB has used the destruction of industry to eliminate organized labor. | Oct 22 20:04 |
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| twitter | Media consolidation. | Oct 22 20:05 |
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| schestowitz | Ha, *that* | Oct 22 20:05 |
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| twitter | Without effective resistance, he's turned the US into a fucking police state. | Oct 22 20:05 |
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| schestowitz | Speaking of which: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/01/14/fcc-co... | Oct 22 20:06 |
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| twitter | Sure, there are many willing tools, people who are afraid they will starve if they don't surrender their rights. | Oct 22 20:06 |
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| schestowitz | There's another one about privitisation of the media somewhere. | Oct 22 20:06 |
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| schestowitz | Well, Mandella was in jail and almost executed, no? | Oct 22 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | Che Guevara was assassinated with assistance of the CIA | Oct 22 20:08 |
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| trmanco | I'm starting to use EMACS for my C programming | Oct 22 20:10 |
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| schestowitz | Buybacks take a beating : http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/15/news/c... | Oct 22 20:10 |
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| trmanco | looks weird, but it is powerful | Oct 22 20:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.thestreet.com/story/10443618/1/ballmer-nee... : Ballmer Needs to Live Up to the Hype | Oct 22 20:11 |
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| schestowitz | I tried emacs in 2002. Went back in nedit after a few weeks. | Oct 22 20:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/20... ( Earnings Preview: Microsoft to post 1Q results )... not recommended. Forbes presents A$$sasinated Press (fighters against fair use) | Oct 22 20:17 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. MSFT is down 7%+. They issued an outlook warning and boom. | Oct 22 20:19 |
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| twitter | I use kate. I like the file view. | Oct 22 20:19 |
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| twitter | M$ a real market leader. | Oct 22 20:19 |
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| twitter | It's all the fault of those dirty bad Communist pirates in China. | Oct 22 20:20 |
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| *schestowitz uses Kate all the time | Oct 22 20:21 |
| schestowitz | NOVL below $4.5 again | Oct 22 20:21 |
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| schestowitz | As I go through Microsoft news (350+ headlines) I see almost nothing positive for them. No new products, no raves. | Oct 22 20:22 |
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| schestowitz | Which was RARE a year ago.. | Oct 22 20:22 |
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| twitter | They have been touting Windows 7, but that's a vaporware joke. | Oct 22 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | Botch Thursday tomorrow... like Patch Tuesday... Is Microsoft's Stock Down? It Must be Patch Tuesday < http://www.pcworld.com/article/152460/is_micro... > | Oct 22 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | Ballmer killed 7 already | Oct 22 20:24 |
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| schestowitz | He called it Vista. Even Microsoft banned scolded him for it. | Oct 22 20:24 |
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| schestowitz | /s/banned/fans/ | Oct 22 20:24 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.cio-weblog.com/50226711/is_micro... "Is Microsoft showing Google the legislative ropes? [...] The suspected instigator, of course, is Microsoft, a company well-versed by hard experience with the necessity of managing its profile in Washington (DC... the "other Washington" as we like to call it out here in Seattle) and lining the right pockets to ensure legislators or regulators | Oct 22 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | don't stand overmuch in its way in the corridors of power." | Oct 22 20:25 |
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| twitter | The buyback article echos what my trolls have been saying, buybacks are "smart" | Oct 22 20:26 |
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| twitter | " The irony is that this might be the time to have any real faith in them. Right now only companies in decent shape - generating real, secure cash flow and not dependent on the debt or capital markets - can afford to buy back stock, and this is a chance to get the stock cheap." | Oct 22 20:26 |
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| twitter | Real bright, blowing your cash reserve right next to a depression. | Oct 22 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | MS mentality: Why compete with Google using better products..? Just obstruct and sabotage Google instead | Oct 22 20:26 |
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| twitter | It's smart for company members who want to unload their shares at company and public expense. | Oct 22 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: it's a bucket game | Oct 22 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | IBM does this too. | Oct 22 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | Red Hat and Novell also. | Oct 22 20:27 |
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| twitter | M$ is out of buckets. | Oct 22 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | It's like passing money from your bank account to under your bricks at home. You're not richer... but just at higher risk of being robbed. | Oct 22 20:28 |
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| MinceR | m$ can't compete | Oct 22 20:28 |
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| MinceR | and they know it | Oct 22 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | They approach debt now | Oct 22 20:28 |
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| twitter | no, it's like they are going into debt because they don't have product anyone wants. | Oct 22 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | They haveVista 7 | Oct 22 20:28 |
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| twitter | Vista 2.0 | Oct 22 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | Vista 7.0 | Oct 22 20:29 |
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| MinceR | Vista7 | Oct 22 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | Vista 7.0 Super Omega Better(TM) edition | Oct 22 20:29 |
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| MinceR | Windows Semen | Oct 22 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | It's really really good. Really. Look at the name | Oct 22 20:29 |
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| twitter | I think it's more like the OMG eddition. | Oct 22 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | Oops. bad typo there. | Oct 22 20:29 |
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| PetoKraus | you mean, good for skin, right? | Oct 22 20:29 |
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| MinceR | lol | Oct 22 20:30 |
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| PetoKraus | [pun intended] | Oct 22 20:30 |
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| PetoKraus | :D | Oct 22 20:30 |
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| PetoKraus | where is it | Oct 22 20:30 |
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| PetoKraus | http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.ne... | Oct 22 20:30 |
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| schestowitz | Vista failed, so Microsoft ejaculated Windows Sevmen 2 years later. | Oct 22 20:31 |
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| PetoKraus | well, maybe Vista failed BECAUSE Microsoft ejaculated.... | Oct 22 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | Haha. | Oct 22 20:32 |
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| twitter | More like gas. Hot air from the marketing department. The last one stank too. | Oct 22 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | I've just seen a headline about Surface. | Oct 22 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* Now is the time to sell $7500 PCs | Oct 22 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | As big as tables... not like an Eee PC | Oct 22 20:32 |
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| twitter | $25,000 super computers too. | Oct 22 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | Haha. | Oct 22 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | Jus build a Linux clusters from existing PCs and pool the resources. That's what I do... with Fedora. | Oct 22 20:33 |
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| twitter | Just in case you have trouble getting a job on the many linux clusters at every University. | Oct 22 20:33 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: no Vista was just 'release' prematurely | Oct 22 20:33 |
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| schestowitz | It had the bad genes of Longhorn. | Oct 22 20:33 |
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| twitter | Six year Karma Sutra produces Vista? | Oct 22 20:33 |
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| twitter | more like a Sweaty B tantrum tan tantric. | Oct 22 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/19/b... ( Microsoft and Google face off in Washington ) | Oct 22 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | "Mixed in among the complaints from the usual lobbying suspects were letters from several farming groups, including the National Association of Farmer Elected Committees and the National Latino Farmers and Ranchers Trade Association, arguing that since farmers use the Internet, they were worried about a Google-Yahoo monopoly." | Oct 22 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | These are SHILLS | Oct 22 20:35 |
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| twitter | I did not do a statistical study of the words people used to describe Vista in the 53 videos I collected but shit is probably the most frequent followed by fuck. | Oct 22 20:35 |
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